[00:13] <keithzg> geri: Honestly, it doesn't much matter. Primary is fine.
[00:14] <keithzg> geri: That's just a leftover from the old DOS partition format, where it only understood a certain number of partitions, so after a certain point the rest had to all be under one big "extended" partition so that the older components within Windows didn't throw a fit.
[00:15]  * keithzg has just used GPT as the partition table lately anyways, and any OS that can't understand it can just go cry in a corner :P
[00:15] <geri> keithzg: ok
[02:50] <Johnny_Linux> ocala ?
[02:50] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[02:50] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[03:14] <dj_segfault> Hi>  I'm having a problem with my kubuntu 12.04 desktop system that just started last night.  I have a TV hooked up as a second monitor, and that's worked for a long time.  But starting last night, I can lauch things into the second screen and interact with my mouse, but the keyboard input goes to whatever app is active on the first screen!!!  Has anyone else seen that before?
[03:15] <dj_segfault> Unfortunately my research keeps coming up with problems with two screens using Unity, which I'm not using.
[03:32] <Pewp> Hello, look for a little help. I generally always use the kubuntu backports, beta and other ppas for KDE stuff
[03:32] <Pewp> On this newer install I just noticed that the ppas are not being seen or something
[03:33] <Pewp> Though I have added them using the add repository tool, and updated
[03:34] <Pewp> Packages that are in backports that should be showing up just plain aren't. And i dont get and upgrades from those 4 ppas
[08:21] <vitimiti> hi o/
[08:56] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world
[08:59] <Klaus_Dieter> I am running 13.04 on my laptopt. since the laste kernel upgrade from 3.8.0-27 to 3.8.0-29 the system frequently and randomly freezes. a freeze can be triggered by rebooting the machine however. when using 3.8.0-27 this does not happen. The system does still respond to sysrq but other than that I do not know how I can collect more data hence filing a bugreport at this point does not make sense yet. How can I obtain more dat
[09:09] <tsimpson> Klaus_Dieter: you can start by running "apport-bug linux", that should collect system information and create a new bug report for you
[09:10] <tsimpson> if more information is needed you can just attach it to the bug report later
[09:10] <ubsafder> i need to restart network without rebooting /etc/init.d/networking restart says depreceated on my ubuntu what are the current way of doing ?
[09:11] <tsimpson> ubsafder: "sudo service networking restart" or "sudo restart networking" for short
[09:14] <tsimpson> ubsafder: "sudo service networking restart" or "sudo restart networking" for short
[09:35] <marcuspbaird> hey is darkwing in here 
[09:57] <Klaus_Dieter> in the meantime I would like to make 3.8.0-27 the default kernel again
[10:32] <Riddell> ** testers needed for beta 1 candidates, join us in #kubuntu-devel to help
[10:35] <alvin_> Will Saucy have a new (and working) version of Choqok? I miss that program.
[10:38] <marcuspbaird> I might be keen 
[10:38] <marcuspbaird> have you got a iso 
[10:38] <marcuspbaird> is darkwing around at all 
[10:50] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:05] <dundee> Hello
[11:06] <dundee> Why does my kde plasma widget move to the right after logout? KDE 4.11 ubuntu 13.04
[11:08] <BluesKaj> dundee:  which widget , the "K" menu ?
[11:09] <dundee> BluesKaj: Pager Widget and Quick Access. I place them to the right of Task Manager Widget and after log out they keep moving to the left.
[11:09] <dundee> BluesKaj: Pager Widget and Quick Access. I place them to the left of Task Manager Widget and after log out they keep moving to the right.
[11:10] <mias> i'm using kubuntu 13.10, when connected to a VPN (openvpn) with the network manager, I cannot connect anymore to konversation; is this a known issue, and how can i fix it? Thanks
[11:10] <dundee> BluesKaj:  They move from left to right of the task manager widget
[11:13] <BluesKaj> dundee:  definitely odd behaviour , perhaps the deskyop theme is faulty
[11:14] <dundee> BluesKaj: I thought so too so I used a different theme and same behaviour. I might just remove the settings folder and see.
[11:15] <BluesKaj> mias:  perhaps your vpn started blocking IRC ..depends on the country/host
[11:16] <BluesKaj> dundee:  that's abit drastic
[11:18] <dundee> BluesKaj: I know but I have been fighting with it for more than 2 hours now.
[11:19] <BluesKaj> dundee:  how many task managers inb the panel?
[11:20] <dundee> BluesKaj: I have only one
[11:25] <BluesKaj> bbiab 
[11:37] <BluesKaj> dundee, do you have save previous session enabled in system settings>startup&shutdown>session management , "restore previous session ", and the setting keeps reverting to it if it was closed when your settings were still on thye right side of the panel , try "Start with an empty session"
[11:39] <BluesKaj> move the pager etc to where you want them first  before rebooting , of course
[11:58] <ima> Hey I am Ivan 
[11:58] <ima> Is there somebody who can help me with my kubuntu 
[11:58] <hateball> !anyone
[11:58] <ima> I cant do a login
[12:42] <bariho> how is kubuntu related to canonical exactly? who controls kubuntu's development? 
[12:43] <yossarianuk> kubuntu just uses the ubuntu base
[12:44] <Unit193> Repos and infrastructure too.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> bariho, kubuntu dev is now supported by Blue Systems , who hired 2 (I think) devs from Canonical to work on Kubuntu and other projects the company is developing
[12:46] <BluesKaj> bariho, http://www.blue-systems.de/
[12:47] <Pici> The work that the Canonical and general Ubuntu devs put into the base infrastructure of Ubuntu benefits Kubuntu and the rest of the official flavors as well.
[12:52] <bariho> k, thanks for the info
[13:24] <damian_> hi :)
[15:20] <automan> Hi!
[15:20] <automan> Olá!
[15:21] <automan> Sou iniciante no kde. Quais sites devo começar a ler? Obrigado
[15:26] <tsimpson> !br | automan
[17:22] <dabauer> can't update, update manager is broken
[17:29] <lordievader> dabauer: Could you be a bit more specific, do you get errors?
[17:30] <dabauer> I ran sudo apt-get install -f, and it ran OK but it retured an error, 1 I think
[17:31] <dabauer> whenever I run update manager it returns an error
[17:33] <yuriy> Hello
[17:33] <yuriy> i can't find skype or dropbox on the system tray
[17:34] <yuriy> how to resilve such pb?
[17:34] <lordievader> dabauer: What error?
[17:34] <dabauer> error 1
[17:35] <lordievader> dabauer: Hmm, try opening a terminal and running "sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:35] <dabauer> error code 1, broken pipe
[17:36] <lordievader> dabauer: Do you get the same error when you issue "sudo apt-get update" alone?
[17:37] <dabauer> it ran OK, but the upgrade didn't run
[17:37] <lordievader> dabauer: True, now try "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[17:37] <dabauer> hang on a secode
[17:38] <dabauer> it's looking for acroread
[17:38] <dabauer> acroread-bin
[17:39] <dabauer> it says acroread-bin is not installed
[17:40] <lordievader> dabauer: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[17:40] <lordievader> !paste
[17:44] <dabauer> !pastebinit
[17:45] <dabauer> I pasted my output to http://paste.ubuntu.com, and it said to run apt-get install -f
[17:45] <dabauer> I ran that and I got the same error message
[17:46] <lordievader> dabauer: Can you give me a link to the paste?
[17:46] <dabauer> I didn't get a URL back from paste.ununtu.com
[17:47] <lordievader> dabauer: Its in the adress bar ;)
[17:47] <dabauer> paste.ubuntu.com/606384/plain
[17:48] <lordievader> I get a not found on that one.
[17:48] <dabauer> that's what's in my address bar
[17:49] <lordievader> Simply copy the output to the input field of paste.ubuntu.com, hit paste and copy the url.
[17:49] <dabauer> paste.ubuntu.com/606384
[17:50] <lordievader> I have the feeling you are missing a number (might be wrong), still getting the not found.
[17:51] <dabauer> I'll copy from my address bar
[17:51] <dabauer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6063484/
[17:51] <dabauer> I didn't see the extra 4
[17:52] <lordievader> Ah broken packages, you've tried the "sudo apt-get -f install" right? Did you get errors?
[17:53] <dabauer> I got acroraead: acroread-bin not installed
[17:53] <lordievader> dabauer: Is this something you want installed btw?
[17:53] <dabauer> where do I get acroread???
[17:55] <lordievader> Guess not, acroread is probably Acrobat Reader... Lets try fixing your system: sudo apt-get purge acroread
[17:56] <dabauer> that worked OK
[17:56] <lordievader> Now try "sudo apt-get update&& sudo apt-get upgrade" again.
[17:57] <dabauer> the update worked, upgrade looks like it is working
[17:58] <lordievader> dabauer: Ok, great ;)
[18:01] <dabauer> worked just fine!!!
[18:01] <dabauer> everything is udated!
[18:02] <dabauer> now I know how to update manually
[18:03] <lordievader> :D
[19:02] <st3ve> hola
[19:03] <st3ve> i just got a new dell laptop (secure boot, efi, etc), and would like to install kubuntu 13.04 on it. i tried booting it with secureboot enabled (the system default), and that didn't work. i disabled secureboot and left efi enabled, and it failed on "grub install-dummy". i've now disabled both secureboot and efi and am trying to install again...
[19:03] <st3ve> BUT, my question is...  am i missing out on anything by doing this?
[19:04] <st3ve> is everything still going to work the same with legacy boot (no efi, no secureboot)?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> st3ve:  not absolutely sure , but i thought efi-mode is the required setting to install inux safely 
[19:08] <BluesKaj> don't think the grub version really matters
[19:13] <reagle> howdy, long time Kubuntu user he just returned to using my netbook after a year. After updates and all (13.04) I can't find the battery applet...?!?
[19:13] <reagle> what package is the widget/plasmoid in, what is it called?
[19:14] <Avihay> reagle: try right clicking the sys-tray->systray settings
[19:14] <Avihay> in display subsection extra-items, see if you have a battery indicator
[19:15] <reagle> ah, that looks useful
[19:16] <Avihay> it's called Battery monitor. I might have installed something for it, because the applet just took too much panel space
[19:18] <reagle> I have enhance, however, I have to click the > button to see it since there's a lot of stuff in my systray... and all it shoes me is that I'm off AC, no time left 
[19:18] <reagle> i.e., enhanced battery moniter
[19:21] <reagle> also, is this something I could stick on my dashboard for when the screen is locked?
[19:22] <Avihay> well, you can right-click systray->systray settings, and under entrys, sett the battery mon from auto to always
[19:22] <reagle> ah, okay, i never lucked at those settings muched; what about getting a sense of how much battery is left?
[19:23] <Avihay> reagle: you can also try to install  plasma-widgets-workspace , I think it has the plasmoid, though the new locker screen doesn't support that
[19:28] <reagle> Avihay: I have plasma-widgets-workspace, but haven't been able to find a battery widget when on the dashboard/lock screen
[19:29] <reagle> Avihay: do you have something in your systray that shows how much battery is left though? That's what I reall need -- not if I have it plugged in or not
[19:29] <Avihay> try searching for one from the GetHotNewStuff menu?
[19:29] <Avihay> yes, I do, the battery monitor
[19:30] <Avihay> if I'm on power it disappears to the arrow thing , and if I'm dis/charging it appears on the systray
[19:32] <reagle> got you, the enhanced one was actually showing less than the non-enhanced
[19:33] <reagle> thanks for your help!
[19:46] <st3ve> hmm. so i've got kubuntu installed, but muon update doesn't want to run. i click the "install updates" button and it says "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided."
[19:46] <st3ve> how do i provide proper authorization?
[19:47] <BluesKaj> st3ve:  usually it's a password
[19:47] <st3ve> right.. it's not asking me for a password
[19:48] <BluesKaj> try the terminal , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-getupgrade
[19:48] <BluesKaj> correction ;sudo apt-getupgrade
[19:48] <st3ve> i've manually done that..  are you saying that i will never be able to use the gui updater? or that, after installing the updates, it'll start working properly?
[19:49] <st3ve> (it's downloading 354 packages right now.. i'm on my other laptop, waiting for it to finish)
[19:49] <BluesKaj> heh my kb battery seems to be atingup ..uhoh
[19:50] <BluesKaj> most likely once it's upgraded muon will work ok , unless you have some special rules setup in kwallet
[19:51] <st3ve> everything is basic, stock, default
[19:51] <st3ve> i actually try to minimize the # of funny customizations i make to my systems, so i dno't have to remember what i've done when it's time to reinstall or replace some hardware ;)
[19:52] <BluesKaj> ok , once apt is finished then try muon again ...autoupdater might have been running 
[19:53] <st3ve> okie doke
[19:54] <BluesKaj> yeah , this pc is just a media server for our TV room , nothing special in terms of software ...all that xbmc stuff is for the birds IMO 
[19:54] <st3ve> is muon a total replacement for synaptic? i.e. i'd never have to install or use synaptic to get all the same access to everything?
[19:56] <BluesKaj> yes, I used synaptic up until 6months ago because muon is finally stable and mature enough to be used as a reference for info on apps  ...I usually use the terminal for installing stuff , but sometimes it's good what's related and needs to be considered 
[19:57] <BluesKaj> good to know what's related 
[19:59] <st3ve> well, it's not just for me, i install linux on non-techie people's computers too and i definitely want to make sure the gui option is viable for them
[20:00] <BluesKaj> yes , understandable for sure 
[20:02] <BluesKaj> my friends are are quite technical in respects, but most are deathly afraid of linux 
[20:04] <BluesKaj> linux is the boogeyman to anyone who's taken MS courses
[20:07] <st3ve> ok, after running apt-get upgrade manually, and rebooting, now it's working as expected
[20:07] <st3ve> it asked me for a password, etc
[20:07] <st3ve> now i can install firefox and thunderbird and so on
[20:08] <BluesKaj> st3ve:  cool :)
[20:08] <st3ve> should i file a bug report on that?
[20:09] <BluesKaj> that's your call , but it seems the bugfix may have down the pipe with upgrades
[20:10] <BluesKaj> ok , battery change in order here
[20:42] <bjrohan> Help please, For some reason Text is not showing on mysytem
[20:43] <bjrohan> In this text edit bar it is empty squares, when I hit enter it appears correctly
[20:43] <BluesKaj> bjrohan:  where on your system ?
[20:43] <bjrohan> All over
[20:43] <bjrohan> KDE bar, all text is fine
[20:43] <bjrohan> in xChat for instance, the mneu bar text is okay, all other text is bad
[20:43] <BluesKaj> update and upgrade your packages 
[20:43] <bjrohan> I just did, nothing updated
[20:44] <bjrohan> Looks like windows text?
[20:44] <monkeyjuice> dist-upgrade?
[20:44] <bjrohan> KDE "start" button menus is fine
[20:44] <BluesKaj> try the terminal , sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:45] <bjrohan> terminal text is okay doing htat now
[20:45] <BluesKaj> then as monkeyjuice suggested , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:45] <monkeyjuice> hey BluesKaj turned into a nice day
[20:45] <BluesKaj> yeah monkeyjuice , nice here too
[20:45] <bjrohan> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[20:46] <bjrohan> :-(\
[20:47] <BluesKaj> bjrohan:  check your software sources in muon settings check them all except for the cdrom
[20:48] <bjrohan> ok
[20:48] <BluesKaj> enable them rather
[20:49] <monkeyjuice> bjrohan:  is this a fresh install ?
[20:54] <bjrohan> monkeyjuice, no I didn't even do an update when I retarted and had this hapen
[20:54] <bjrohan> restarted
[20:54] <bjrohan> I marked all packages sans CDrom dichecked for update, nada
[20:55] <BluesKaj> well, enuff for one day ...later
[20:55] <monkeyjuice> bjrohan:  are there other users on this system . check to see if its there also?
[20:55] <bjrohan> Nope, justme
[20:56] <bjrohan> No other users on thisone
[20:56] <monkeyjuice> maybe make a user to test it ... 
[20:56] <bjrohan> create a new user?
[20:56] <bjrohan> will do
[20:57] <monkeyjuice> yap and login to see if it changes
[20:57] <bjrohan> login as guest then instead?
[20:57] <monkeyjuice> ya try it 
[20:57] <bjrohan> BRB
[21:01] <bjrohan> guest account everything is okay monkeyjuice 
[21:02] <monkeyjuice> so your user account is doing it for some reason
[21:02] <monkeyjuice> hmmm
[21:03] <monkeyjuice> could make a new user and move to that ive had to do that before if you cant figure it out
[21:03] <monkeyjuice> im not sure how to help with this
[21:03] <monkeyjuice> or ask in #ubuntu there more active right now
[21:03] <bjrohan> Thanks monkeyjuice 
[21:03] <bjrohan> will do
[21:03] <monkeyjuice> hope ya get it bjrohan
[21:04] <bjrohan> would appear something is awry in the fnts, would it be the fons in my user dir, or global?
[21:04] <bjrohan> probably my home folder
[21:04] <monkeyjuice> ya i remember some problem with fonts but along time ago
[21:04] <monkeyjuice> think it was gnome tho
[21:05] <monkeyjuice> you said guest is fine right?
[21:05] <bjrohan> yes
[21:05] <monkeyjuice> so seems its your user to me
[21:05] <bjrohan> yep
[21:06] <bjrohan> now to figure out what, almost like a font was removed
[21:06] <monkeyjuice> and you changed nothing ?
[21:06] <bjrohan> Not in any settings or in the fonts folder
[21:06] <bjrohan> I added a few little progrmas
[21:06] <monkeyjuice> wonder if they changed fonts or something
[21:08] <bjrohan> I just wnet to appearnace, and changes all the fonts to Times Roman, no diff
[21:09] <monkeyjuice> hmmm not sure how to find this sorry
[21:10] <bjrohan> What part of the systme is the text that appaers in the text editor bar in tthe IRC program, and the name listing on the right?
[21:10] <bjrohan> those are the ones messed up
[21:10] <bjrohan> Not the window title
[21:10] <bjrohan> not the menu bar
[21:11] <bjrohan> Although only n xchat in Firefox  only the window title is okay, menus and all are fubar
[21:12] <monkeyjuice> i dont know 
[21:13] <bjrohan> no problem
[21:13] <bjrohan> I had added Conky manager, which added fonts, my guess is this is te culprit
[21:14] <KpycNuK> Can you describe your problem? (just copyPase if you could :3)
[21:15] <bjrohan> KpycNuK,  My fonts are messed up in Kubuntu,  Some appear okay (system) others appear as blank boxes
[21:16] <bjrohan> KpycNuK,  for instance all fonts in taskbar are fine, as well as the KDE menu fonts
[21:16] <bjrohan> I am using Chat right now, where I enter text is all blank boxes, however the text in the convo window is fine
[21:16] <bjrohan> the name lise and room list are blank boxes, window title is fine, as well as the xchat menu bar is legible
[21:16] <bjrohan> name list
[21:17] <bjrohan> In firefox only the window tiel bar is legible everything else is giberish, even text in the browser main window
[21:17] <bjrohan> Dolhin, all text is fine
[21:17] <bjrohan> Dolphin
[21:19] <KpycNuK> Can you show some screenshots? I'm going to smoke and read some russian resources about this problem :3
[21:20] <bjrohan> would like to but can't use browser in this account to paste it to pastebin etc
[21:25] <bjrohan> I opened every font that came with conky manager they all opened just fine and showed text
[21:25] <bjrohan> or a symbol
[21:29] <bjrohan> In kmail everyting is fine, in Thunderbird, everything is not
[21:30] <bjrohan> In rekonq, everyting loosk fine, in FireFox, Chrome, and Chromium, they do not
[21:30] <bjrohan> looks like the standard KDE itmes are all okay
[21:41] <KpycNuK> what about new user in the system?
[21:42] <KpycNuK> Suppose you tried
[21:44] <KpycNuK> And what's happened when you are switching to another terminal? (Ctrl+Alt+F1). Is everything ok there? (I think yes.)
[21:52] <bjrohan> KpycNuK,  here is a screenshot http://tinypic.com/r/35198co/5
[21:53] <bjrohan> where do I find the Guset account files?
[21:53] <bjrohan> I want to copy over the guest account font folder
[21:53] <bjrohan> after backing up my current .font folder
[22:04] <bjrohan_> I changed the name of the .font dir in my home folder, and rebooted, I still have font issu
[22:04] <bjrohan_> ues
[22:05] <bjrohan_> does thes mean my global font is fubr?
[22:05] <bjrohan_> My gurst account all works fine
[22:05] <bjrohan_> guest