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mlankhorst | can someone bump the repository size of https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/x-staging ? | 07:14 |
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wgrant | mlankhorst: It's usually best to ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad. But done. | 07:48 |
mlankhorst | thanks | 07:48 |
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jml | I'm getting an ssl cert error when I try to fetch a branch from Launchpad. | 09:56 |
lifeless | is bzr using ssh or http[s] ? | 09:58 |
wgrant | All our SSL certs are good. Do you have ca-certificates installed, and how ancient is your bzr? | 10:03 |
wgrant | Modern bzrs don't use XML-RPC for HTTP at all, do they? | 10:03 |
maxb | I helped someone recently whose ValiCert root cert had disappeared and in the process discovered that Ubuntu One had turned my own into broken symlinks | 10:14 |
maxb | It could be something like that | 10:14 |
maxb | jml: Try a 'ls -l /etc/ssl/certs/ | grep -Fi valicert' and pastebin? | 10:15 |
jml | wgrant: I'm using whatever's on precise | 10:16 |
jml | maxb: no broken symlinks then. | 10:18 |
maxb | jml: I'd still like to see the paste to check for missing ones | 10:19 |
maxb | I'd tell you what to look for but I'm ty[ing from an Android tablet so don't have a reference easily to hand | 10:20 |
jml | maxb: https://gist.github.com/jml/6435231 | 10:22 |
maxb | jml: Yup, you're missing a hex-hash symlink to the valicert class2 root | 10:24 |
maxb | First, run 'debsums -s ca-certificates' to check if some files are missing | 10:25 |
maxb | The .dpkg-new file being in /etc/ssl/certs is rather bogus too | 10:26 |
maxb | I would not expect dpkg to be installing into that directory at all (the files go into /usr/share) | 10:27 |
jml | maxb: a file is missing. | 10:27 |
maxb | 'apt-get --reinstall install ca-certificates' is probably what you want, then | 10:27 |
maxb | after which, 'update-ca-certificates' ought to re-make the missing symlinks | 10:28 |
jml | maxb: thanks. | 10:46 |
jml | now I'm getting timeouts branching. | 10:51 |
wgrant | Timeouts? | 10:52 |
wgrant | Branches are served over HTTP directly by Apache | 10:52 |
wgrant | Unless the XML-RPC call at the start is failing, they cannot time out except by a network issue. | 10:52 |
jml | hmm. | 10:53 |
* jml bumps up the logging | 10:53 | |
wgrant | How did the timeout appear? | 10:53 |
jml | https://gist.github.com/jml/6435480 | 10:54 |
wgrant | Ah, ssh | 10:54 |
jml | yeah. | 10:54 |
jml | (I'm planning on pushing shortly after I branch.) | 10:55 |
wgrant | I think that's recursively stacked... | 10:55 |
wgrant | Oh no | 10:55 |
wgrant | Just got opened a few times | 10:55 |
wgrant | It branched fine from here | 10:55 |
wgrant | Are you sure your SSH connectivity to Launchpad is OK? | 10:55 |
wgrant | What does -Dhpss think about the whole thing? | 10:56 |
wgrant | Though that open_2.1 sounds like the first call. | 10:57 |
jml | https://gist.github.com/jml/6435514 | 10:57 |
jml | yeah, it is. | 10:57 |
jml | trying to ssh into bazaar.lp | 10:58 |
jml | (seriously, who wrote this crap?) | 10:58 |
wgrant | Oh, you're on a Google network? | 10:58 |
jml | wgrant: yes. how could you tell? | 10:59 |
wgrant | The $HOME that is wrong on quite a number of levels. | 11:00 |
jml | ah yes. | 11:00 |
jml | you'd be surprised :) | 11:00 |
jml | hmm. this might be an auth thing. | 11:01 |
wgrant | Speaking of Twisted | 11:03 |
wgrant | I hate whoever devised its default log rotation. | 11:03 |
jml | yeah, sorry about that. | 11:03 |
jml | that wasn't me, but it's been a problem for a while. | 11:03 |
wgrant | I've exterminated bits of it, but some stuff still uses it | 11:03 |
wgrant | For example, bzr-sftp... | 11:04 |
jml | I think the idea of twistd is a really good one. | 11:04 |
jml | but the execution hasn't been uniformly great | 11:04 |
wgrant | Oh yes, certainly. | 11:06 |
jml | wgrant: I think it was something to do with my local auth | 11:06 |
wgrant | It is lovely in a lot of ways. Just not the log rotation policy... | 11:06 |
wgrant | jml: Manual ssh doesn't work either? | 11:07 |
jml | wgrant: it didn't. does now. | 11:07 |
wgrant | Aha | 11:07 |
wgrant | Dodgy agent? | 11:07 |
jml | wgrant: I guess I'm surprised the error was timeout. | 11:07 |
jml | wgrant: interesting thought. | 11:07 |
jml | maybe | 11:07 |
jml | I'm running i3wm, so normal desktop sessiony things sometimes don't work as I'd expect. | 11:07 |
wgrant | That 'timed out while waiting to read' doesn't seem to have come from bzr | 11:08 |
jml | no, that'll be ssh | 11:08 |
wgrant | Indeed, that's from OpenSSH itself | 11:08 |
jml | wgrant: btw, congrats on the recent buildd work. | 11:10 |
wgrant | buildd-manager's currently getting a pretty serious makeover. | 11:11 |
jml | about time :) | 11:11 |
wgrant | Making the Twisted slightly less insane. | 11:11 |
jml | interesting. | 11:11 |
wgrant | Disentangling the Twisted and DB code | 11:12 |
jml | if I'd done it, I would have clarified the interface to LP st it didn't talk directly to the db | 11:12 |
wgrant | That's the eventual plan | 11:12 |
jml | cool. | 11:12 |
jml | wgrant: could I persuade you to split lp's bugtracker into a separate product? | 11:12 |
wgrant | But before I can do that I need the Twisted to run as a layer on top of the model access code, rather than a horrible intertangled web | 11:13 |
wgrant | Heh | 11:13 |
wgrant | That would be lovely. | 11:13 |
jml | wgrant: yeah. I'd really like it for my FLOSS work. | 11:13 |
jml | but I'm probably not going to do the work because a) it's work, b) that much work, I almost might as well write my own | 11:14 |
wgrant | Indeed, we have one of the better bugtrackers around, I think, and it's a bit unfortunate that it's so heavy to run. | 11:15 |
wgrant | And due to lazr.restful it is some challenge to split out the rest. | 11:16 |
jml | well, if I went at it, I'd have the liberty of forking | 11:17 |
jml | so I'd just clone LP and start deleting the non-bugtracker bits | 11:17 |
wgrant | Yeah. | 11:17 |
jml | shedding a silent tear that I can't use the trademarked edit icon. | 11:17 |
wgrant | But the drunken exclamation mark will feel left out. | 11:18 |
wgrant | :'( | 11:18 |
jml | wgrant: blame the lawyers. | 11:18 |
wgrant | Perhaps we can do a Kickstarter for a freely licensed equivalent of this essential resource. | 11:18 |
jml | the thing is, that's still a non-trivial amount of work | 11:18 |
cjwatson | Even more if you want to actually keep it up to date | 11:19 |
jml | cjwatson: well, yes. I wouldn't bother about keeping it up-to-date with LP development though. | 11:19 |
jml | because there's not a great deal going on, and because it'd probably change enough that it'd be an exercise in futility | 11:20 |
jml | mostly it'd just be security bits | 11:20 |
jml | e.g. I'm not sure that anyone outside of Ubuntu cares for the distro model in LP. | 11:20 |
jml | that said, I always underestimate the cost of maintaining software. even undistract-me I have to spend time every week or so reviewing & merging patches. | 11:21 |
cjwatson | LP is part of Ubuntu Engineering nowadays, so yeah, a lot of the recent work has been soyuz/buildd kind of area | 11:21 |
cjwatson | jml: ironic | 11:21 |
jml | & it's tiny | 11:21 |
jml | cjwatson: I strive to live a poetic life | 11:22 |
jml | cjwatson: makes sense. | 11:23 |
jml | also, soyuz was always the area to me that I would have found most fun to improve | 11:23 |
wgrant | I tried... | 11:24 |
jml | wgrant: heh. I'd rather not get started on my "I should haves" just now. I'll be here all day, and the whisky doesn't get served for another 4 hours. | 11:25 |
wgrant | Heh | 11:25 |
cjwatson | Isn't that what a hip-flask is for? | 11:27 |
jml | I think if I take that particular road to perdition, I'd just spike my coffee | 11:29 |
jml | problem is, I'd have to pay for my whisky then | 11:29 |
jml | lunch | 11:30 |
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cave | hi all | 17:29 |
cave | is there a RSS Feed available for Projects on Launchpad? | 17:30 |
cave | https://launchpad.net/~csoler-users/+archive/retroshare-snapshots/+packages <-- i want to read this feed for updates. | 17:30 |
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cave | <cave> is there a RSS Feed available for Projects on Launchpad? | 20:29 |
cave | <cave> https://launchpad.net/~csoler-users/+archive/retroshare-snapshots/+packages <-- i want to read this feed for updates. | 20:29 |
Ampelbein | cave: As far as I see it isn't supported, bug 207333 | 20:38 |
ubot5 | bug 207333 in Launchpad itself "want feeds/programmatic notifications for package build status" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207333 | 20:38 |
cave | thanks Ampelbein | 21:01 |
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