[00:57] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[00:57] <mattwj2002> anyone here?
[01:01] <hyperair> does lubuntu not come with pulseaudio?
[01:02] <Unit193> Nope.
[01:02] <hyperair> hmm, odd
[01:03] <hyperair> apt-get install lubuntu-desktop pulls in pulseaudio anyway
[01:03] <Unit193> Try it with --no-install-recommends
[01:04] <hyperair> ah, recommends, that's probably it
[01:04] <hyperair> oh well
[01:04] <hyperair> i was hoping it came with pulseaudio by default
[01:04] <hyperair> dealing with bug #1178272
[01:07] <Unit193> Of course you can install pulseaudio, but that doesn't help defaults.  You'd think the package would then depend on it, or at least should.
[01:08] <hyperair> the package does depend on it
[01:08] <hyperair> well, rather it depends on gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio | gstreamer1.0-audiosink
[01:08] <hyperair> and recommends -pulseaudio
[01:08] <hyperair> but that's useless since lubuntu chooses not to ship pulseaudio
[01:08] <hyperair> why doesn't it anyway? is pulseaudio that bloated a dependency?
[01:09] <hyperair> 11MB
[01:10] <hyperair> that's including consolekit and dbus
[01:10] <Unit193> It's been known to cause issues with something, can't remember what.
[01:10] <hyperair> sheesh
[01:11] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/9gpZSi8DJsa7GKhlbbUT hah, that's all the packages I have, don't even have pulseaudio. :P
[01:12]  * hyperair sighs
[01:12] <hyperair> this is dumb. maybe i'll just pretend the issue doesn't exist, since people who insist on not having pulseaudio are stubborn pricks anyway
[01:13] <Unit193> Well, I remember it was causing some issue on the Lubuntu computer so removed because :lazy:, this computer has pulse working fine. :D
[01:14] <hyperair> pffft.
[01:15] <hyperair> what's the music player in lubuntu?
[01:16] <Unit193> Said in there, audacious or somesuch.  Well, media manager, player is some mplayer UI.
[01:16] <hyperair> right
[01:16] <hyperair> audacious eh
[01:16] <hyperair> doesn't use gstreamer
[01:16] <Unit193> gnome-mplayer
[01:16] <hyperair> neither does gnome-mplayer
[01:16] <hyperair> bleh
[01:17] <hyperair> so we can't exactly toss gstreamer1.0-alsa onto lubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <hyperair> sheesh
[01:18] <Unit193> Actually, Lubuntu is switching to firefox, and that only has gstreamer0.10 support.  Not sure if that version will make it into saucy or not though.
[01:18] <Unit193> (v25)
[01:20] <Unit193> pidgin also depends on libgstreamer0.10-0, but only recommends gstreamer0.10-plugins-base.  (In raring, that is.)
[01:21] <hyperair> oho
[01:21] <hyperair> does anything use gst1.0?
[01:25] <Unit193> wget -qO- http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/saucy-desktop-i386.manifest | grep gst  says yes, but I don't know what.
[01:40] <Unit193> hyperair: Got it?
[01:40] <hyperair> lemme check
[01:41] <hyperair> hmm
[01:41] <hyperair> no -alsa
[01:41] <hyperair> and no gst1.0 stuff
[01:41] <Unit193> Nope.
[01:41] <Unit193> Well, plugins base.
[01:43] <Unit193> libgstreamer1.0-0 and libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 to be exact, but that's it, so something isn't pulling in much.
[02:06] <hyperair> oh yeah it is there
[02:06] <hyperair> just not the plugins themselves
[02:07] <hyperair> only the lib that loads the plugins
[02:07] <Unit193> So something expecting gstreamer is going to have fun. :D
[02:07] <Unit193> Anywho, do I detect a lubuntu-gstreamer? :---------D
[02:19] <hyperair> uh metapackage?
[02:19] <hyperair> seems counterintuitive to have a metapackage for that
[02:19] <hyperair> the media players typically already express a dependency on the plugins they need
[02:21] <Unit193> (Kidding. :P )
[04:24] <Ahmuck> got a problem. computer booted and now I have a screen with tabs on them, one "learn" and another "preferences".  it's an odd tabbed application window.  is this something new?
[04:28] <Ahmuck> what in the h* happened.  I have no menu now
[04:28] <Ahmuck> is ubuntu playing around with a desktop look alike ubuntu?
[04:28] <Ahmuck> lubuntu
[04:29] <Ahmuck> anybody home
[04:30] <ianorlin> I don't know what happened
[04:30] <ianorlin> did you put something in autostart?
[04:30] <Unit193> Did you select the "Lubuntu Netbook" login option?
[04:32] <Ahmuck> nope
[04:32] <Ahmuck> never
[04:32] <Ahmuck> i often do a "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"
[04:33] <Ahmuck> hrm, if it's a login option i should be able to logout and log back in again
[04:33] <Ahmuck> jam
[04:34] <Ahmuck> lxgames option
[04:34] <Ahmuck> awkward
[04:34] <Ahmuck> is this a new option or did i select by hitting the wrong key?
[04:35] <Ahmuck> btw, i don't recall logging in this evening after bootup
[04:35] <Ahmuck> or something an installed game would have done?
[04:35] <ianorlin> I think it is there just you might not be using it
[09:12] <antisober552> hi guys im trying to bridge an connection from my wifi card to ethernet
[09:14] <antisober552> so i can connect my xbox without having to run an ethernet cord around the house
[09:15] <antisober552> i know this is not the best thing to do but it will do me for the time being
[09:16] <tsimpson> !ics | antisober552
[09:17] <antisober552> im using 13.04 is the guide the same
[09:19] <tsimpson> it should be, at least the command line way
[09:20] <antisober552> thx :)
[10:03] <lgp171188> Hi, I installed emacs24 on my lubuntu installation and I find that the syntax highlighting doesn't work at all. It used to work fine out of the box on ubuntu and debian. What could be the issue here?
[10:04] <lgp171188> I tried activating the global font lock mode, but it says "symbol's value is void: global-font-lock-mode"
[10:47] <elixia> I recently upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04 via do-release upgrade. I have an NVIDIA GeForce4 Go 420 video card. The display worked perfectly fine, but after upgrade it just brings me to a flickering blue screen when booting with 3.8 kernel. When I use the old 3.5 kernel though it boots fine. Checking the Xorg logs show Kernel 3.8 uses "nouveau interface version 1.1.0" while 3.5 shows "nouveau interface version 1.0.0".
[10:48] <elixia> (continued) Also, Kernel 3.8 shows "(II) NOUVEAU(0): Opened GPU channel 0" while Kernel 3.5 shows "(II) NOUVEAU(0): Opened GPU channel 1". No other differences were noticed on the Xorg logs between kernels
[11:00] <leszek> hi
[13:06] <Ahmuck> hi leszek
[17:27] <Impossible> how can i switch between workspaces (shortcut)
[17:27] <Impossible> also how can i see all my programs I have open so i can choose which to exit out
[17:27] <Impossible> thanks
[17:29] <Unit193> Ctrl+Alt+Left (or right), and there should be an application list in lxpanel...
[17:30] <Impossible> thanks, oh i meant like have them all be seen but seperated you know?? maybe its not possible
[17:30] <Impossible> im trying to make  a usb of lubuntu will multisystem do this?
[17:35] <Unit193> If in windows, linuxliveUSB, if in Linux, dd.
[17:36] <Impossible> thansk
[17:43] <Impossible> how may i move a program to another worksp
[17:44] <Unit193> Drag, or right click title bar.
[18:52] <n-iCe> hello guys
[18:52] <n-iCe> is the way to install kerneles to ubuntu the same for lubuntu?
[18:56] <wxl> n-iCe: no reason for it to not be
[18:57] <Unit193> Yeah, it's as unsupported on Lubuntu as it is Ubuntu. :-----D
[18:57] <gomiboy> n-iCe: i never used ubuntu, but i guess... ohh what the others say... :)
[19:00] <chrisb_> hi, i've lost "Desktop Session Settings" from my lubuntu menu. How do I get it back please?
[19:04] <chrisb_> sudo apt-get install lxsession-edit has helped!!!!!
[19:37] <mozybonz> heh damn i love this os on my laptop
[20:32] <Impossible> is it ok to have JAVA insalled
[20:48] <wxl> Impossible: it's ok. but it's certainly not a requirement.