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| pitti | Good morning | 04:43 |
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| tvoss_ | pitti, ping | 05:50 |
| pitti | hey tvoss_ | 05:50 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:00 |
| darkxst | slangasek, you are patch piloting today? | 08:55 |
| Laney | I doubt | 08:58 |
| Laney | he'll be around for several hours yet | 08:58 |
| darkxst | Laney, oh right, I still cant work out all the timezones ;) | 08:59 |
| Laney | I just type "Time in XXX" into google :P | 08:59 |
| xnox | I have a few locations in my datetime indicator: a couple across usa, utc, a couple in europe and beijing. =) and steve is west coast. | 09:01 |
| xnox | What is the standard location: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ or http://ports.ubuntu.com/ ? they seemed to be the same...? | 09:05 |
| cjwatson | d-i prefers the former | 09:06 |
| xnox | ok, thanks. | 09:07 |
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| hyperair | pitti: hid-generic 0005:045E:0762.0019: input,hidraw3: BLUETOOTH HID v0.13 Keyboard [Microsoft Bluetooth Mobile Keyboard 6000 <-- this keyboard has nothing in /sys/class/power_supply/ and nothing in upower --dump | 12:23 |
| pitti | hyperair: ah, too bad; thanks anyway! I got three responses for the sysfs dump now, should be enough to construct a test case | 12:24 |
| hyperair | :) | 12:25 |
| hyperair | okay good | 12:25 |
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| doko | kees, hardening defaults ping | 13:12 |
| pitti | FourDollars: hey, still here? | 13:18 |
| pitti | FourDollars: I'm afraid I need some more data for bug 1153488, I followed up there with a question | 13:24 |
| ubottu | bug 1153488 in upower (Ubuntu) "Treats bluetooth input device batteries as system power supply" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1153488 | 13:24 |
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| FourDollars | pitti: ack | 14:00 |
| pitti | FourDollars: I only became aware that you determine mouse vs. keyboard from the "bluetooth" parent device, and the dumps didn't include those | 14:01 |
| FourDollars | pitti: Yes. | 14:02 |
| FourDollars | I will collect the data for you. Wait a minute. | 14:02 |
| pitti | FourDollars: no hurry; thanks! | 14:03 |
| Ampelbein | Hmm: "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" on armhf and powerpc in the same source file. But not on amd64/i386. Who to contact to get this investigated? | 14:05 |
| xnox | Ampelbein: usually you should have pre-processed source file available and together with it you can file a bug against e.g. gcc-4.8 | 14:06 |
| xnox | Ampelbein: without pre-processed source file there is little to get investigated. Do you have it? | 14:06 |
| Ampelbein | xnox: But I have neither armhf and powerpc. | 14:06 |
| xnox | Ampelbein: so where did you get the failure? | 14:07 |
| Ampelbein | xnox: This happens on the build-servers (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mrpt/1:1.0.2-1/) | 14:07 |
| Ampelbein | So I would need someone (from canonical?) to copy the preprocessed source out of the build-chroot? | 14:08 |
| xnox | Ampelbein: it's gone and destroyed. | 14:08 |
| Ampelbein | Hmm, ok. | 14:10 |
| xnox | Ampelbein: same is happening in debian https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=mrpt thus a FTBFS bug can be filed there as well. And on debian there are porters / porter boxes that a few people have access to to re-run builds. | 14:10 |
| FourDollars | pitti: There is no output from `grep -r . /sys/class/power_supply /sys/class/bluetooth`. Change it to `grep -r . /sys/class/power_supply/*hci* /sys/class/bluetooth/*hci*`? | 14:11 |
| Ampelbein | xnox: Ok, will file a bug in Debian, thank you. | 14:12 |
| knocte | Cimi: ping | 14:15 |
| pitti | FourDollars: hm, should be necessary | 14:20 |
| pitti | FourDollars: are you running saucy? | 14:20 |
| pitti | FourDollars: in that case, it might be easiest and best to install umockdev and do "umockdev-record --all > /tmp/out.txt" and attach that | 14:20 |
| FourDollars | pitti: no. I run Ubuntu 12.04. | 14:21 |
| pitti | FourDollars: this will provide a complete dump of all devices | 14:21 |
| pitti | FourDollars: ah, ok | 14:21 |
| pitti | FourDollars: ah, perhaps this: | 14:22 |
| pitti | grep -r . /sys/class/power_supply/* /sys/class/bluetooth/* | 14:22 |
| FourDollars | ok | 14:24 |
| FourDollars | pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/1153488/comments/23 | 14:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1153488 in upower (Ubuntu) "Treats bluetooth input device batteries as system power supply" [Low,Triaged] | 14:28 |
| pitti | FourDollars: splendid, thank you! | 14:30 |
| FourDollars | pitti: no problem. :) | 14:30 |
| slangasek | darkxst_: yes, what's up? | 14:47 |
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| JoshStrobl | fwd from #ubuntu-quality: Would this be the right place to go if I wanted to propose a particular application be removed from USC? | 14:53 |
| tedg | ev, Reading your mail about high CPU usage services. | 14:57 |
| tedg | ev, Seems to me that we could make it opt-in. Then "bringing it to the desktop" would be a service by service thing. | 14:57 |
| tedg | ev, Perhaps by adding a stanza to the upstart job config? | 14:57 |
| tedg | ev, Something similar to the respawn limits | 14:58 |
| ev | tedg: so the whitelist approach was discussed but the worry was that we wouldn't catch things like the ueventd bug | 14:58 |
| ev | because we couldn't anticipate them going proper mental | 14:58 |
| tedg | ev, The whitelist would be "everything on phone" where the set is smaller, no? I mean we could grep for it and generate bugs. | 14:59 |
| ev | tedg: hm? I mean in the general sense, going with a whitelist approach on the desktop means that we'll miss whatever we don't anticipate spinning out of control | 15:01 |
| ev | unless I misunderstand what you're suggesting? | 15:01 |
| tedg | ev, Sure, on the desktop. But I think that it's an unbounded problem to watch everything. You don't want to kill my SETI@Home. | 15:02 |
| pitti | or totem or the flash plugin, etc. (this has already been discussed via mail) | 15:02 |
| * tedg has a prime refactorting botnet. No reason. | 15:02 | |
| pitti | tedg: hah, recovered your lost secret GPG key yet? :-) | 15:03 |
| ev | true, so whitelist rather than blacklist might be best | 15:03 |
| ev | tedg: would you mind following up to the ML post with this? :) | 15:03 |
| tedg | ev, Heh, sure. | 15:03 |
| pitti | would "everything that provides a D-BUS service" be a good first bite into teh whitelist? | 15:03 |
| tedg | pitti, No, but I have kees' so we're good, mine isn't as useful. | 15:04 |
| tedg | pitti, +1 | 15:04 |
| tedg | Perhaps we could detect the case and generate a recoverable error for folks not in the whitelist. | 15:05 |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: hey, are you around still? | 15:18 |
| jamespage | hallyn_, yes | 15:18 |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: was wondernig if you'd had any thoughts on the likewise-open bug situation | 15:18 |
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| jamespage | hallyn_, I've not look at it hard yet | 15:20 |
| jamespage | but I reckons there are a load of bugs that can be duped up | 15:20 |
| jamespage | I'm assuming that ubuntu-server was not a bug subscriber until recently right? | 15:20 |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: ok. I will probably take an overly broad brush and do that, and beg the reporters' forgiveness if I err. | 15:20 |
| hallyn_ | that's my assumption too :) | 15:20 |
| hallyn_ | all the old bug will drown out new, valid ones, so i'd like to just mark them invalid actually | 15:21 |
| hallyn_ | and ask the reporters to respond and re-set to new if they still have the problem | 15:21 |
| pitti | hallyn_: you could set them to "incomplete" with "does this still happen in saucy?" and let them time out | 15:21 |
| jamespage | pitti, alot of them look like dist-upgrades to lucid | 15:22 |
| jamespage | so I'd rather not do that | 15:22 |
| pitti | not for those where this quetsion obviously doesn't make sense, of course :) | 15:22 |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: so if a dist-upgrade to lucid failed on likewise-open, is it fair to assume that the reporter must've gotten past it by now? | 15:23 |
| hallyn_ | i.e. mark invalid and ask to re-open? | 15:23 |
| hallyn_ | any which were not dis-tupgrades, set to incomplete? | 15:23 |
| jamespage | sounds reasonable | 15:23 |
| * jamespage worries about the state of likewise-open in distro | 15:24 | |
| jamespage | it does not get much love anymore | 15:24 |
| hallyn_ | pitti: thanks for the suggestion, will do that for a bunch | 15:24 |
| hallyn_ | jamespage: yeah i've considered spending a day to try it out so i can be better able to look over it | 15:24 |
| hallyn_ | wasn't kirkland at one point our resident expert? :) | 15:24 |
| jamespage | maybe - I'm not sure | 15:24 |
| jamespage | I'm not 100% clear why its in the supported seed | 15:25 |
| hallyn_ | i just .. have *never* used it. | 15:25 |
| hallyn_ | yeah | 15:25 |
| hallyn_ | Daviey: ^ do you know how that showed up? | 15:25 |
| kirkland | hallyn_: jamespage: likewise? I think that was dendrobates' doing | 15:25 |
| kirkland | hallyn_: jamespage: I think dendrobates, soren, or ttx might remember | 15:26 |
| * jamespage is slightly embarresed he had to lookup who dendrobates whas | 15:27 | |
| jamespage | (sorry) | 15:27 |
| kirkland | jamespage: heh :-) | 15:27 |
| hallyn_ | kirkland: i meant it showing up in server supported seed | 15:27 |
| kirkland | jamespage: hallyn_: yeah, looking at likewise-open's debian/changelog, it was dendrobates (Rick Clark) that packaged it originally; I think he pushed the MIR as well | 15:27 |
| Sweetshark | no seb128 today? | 15:28 |
| kirkland | hallyn_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/likewise-open/+bug/201537 | 15:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 201537 in likewise-open (Ubuntu) "MIR for likewise-open" [High,Fix released] | 15:28 |
| kirkland | hallyn_: oh, that one is zul's :-) | 15:28 |
| jamespage | oh zul... deary me | 15:28 |
| ttx | kirkland: at those times, integration with AD was seen as a key feature | 15:28 |
| zul | what did i do now? | 15:29 |
| ttx | and likewise-open was basically the component that was supposed to allow us doing it | 15:29 |
| ttx | so it was more of a product management thing | 15:29 |
| kirkland | ttx: :-) | 15:29 |
| kirkland | ttx: so let's blame nijaba, then :-) | 15:29 |
| jamespage | I can see the context - thanks for clearing that up ttx | 15:29 |
| ttx | always blame nijaba | 15:29 |
| kirkland | ttx: howdy, btw! | 15:29 |
| ttx | howdy! | 15:29 |
| dendrobates | jamespage: lol | 15:42 |
| jamespage | dendrobates, sorry :-) | 15:42 |
| dendrobates | no worries | 15:43 |
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| * kees looks forward to tedg's impersonation of him | 17:39 | |
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| * tedg does his best kees: "Oh, look, I've got a goatee and all my IP traffic is coming from Siberia" ;-) | 18:17 | |
| * tedg probably shouldn't quit his day-job | 18:17 | |
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| kees | tedg: hehe, A++ would be impersonated again | 18:42 |
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