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brobostigongood morning everyone.07:50
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MartijnVdS\o brobostigon07:53
brobostigonmorning MartijnVdS07:53
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:09
SuperMattmorning08:10
SuperMattI seem to be growing an appreciable amount of respect for SUSE08:10
SuperMattI've been told by many people before that it's terrible and that I shouldn't use it, but at every turn I see them doing some really great things08:11
popeyLaney: sorry to hear about bobby08:12
Laneythanks popey08:13
Laneyhe was pretty old08:13
DJonesMorning all08:20
dwatkinsello08:28
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JamesTaitGood morning all, happy Paperboy Day! :-D08:52
bigcalmOooo, memories of that game08:53
bigcalmI was pants at it08:53
JamesTaitbigcalm, that was my first thought as well. :)08:55
JamesTaitbigcalm, although the source called it Newspaper Carrier Day.08:56
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mungbeanwhat is badoo ?09:13
popeybigcalm: seen someone has implemented paperboy with Occulus Rift + Kinect + exercise bike09:14
bigcalmpopey: sweet!09:14
mungbeani saw that on click i think09:14
popeyyeah, me too09:15
mungbeanmy son lets me watch it over lunch on saturday without a tantrum09:16
mungbeanusually he watches ninja warrior over lunch09:16
mungbeanbut he saw angry birds on it once , and a robot , so he likes it now09:16
mungbeanis badoo a dating site?09:19
mungbeanor a facebook copy09:19
mungbeangetting messages from strange men via it09:19
DJonesGoogle search briungs up "Meet people on Badoo, Make new friends, Chat, Flirt" Sounds like a combination of facebook & dating09:19
DJones     a combination of facebook & dating09:20
DJoneshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badoo09:20
mungbeanBadoo is the internet's most successful hook-up service, run from London by a secretive Russian serial entrepreneur who has refused to b09:20
mungbeansomehow i don't think i'll be checking my message from "Ross"09:21
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mungbeanuses my full name...rather :S09:21
DJonesYou never know, you could get a pleasant surprise09:21
mungbeanchances of that are approaching negative infinity09:22
mungbeananyone know if 4965agn works in n mode on recent kernels yet?09:35
directhexmungbean, yes! briefly!09:48
mungbean:'( you mean 30 seconds...09:48
MartijnVdSuntil you get some kind of weird packet?09:48
mungbeani wonder why this has never been fixed?09:48
mungbeanhave an n router and n card and can't use it09:48
MartijnVdSthe newer intel wifi cards do have working n09:53
MartijnVdSit's like the older intel graphics cards that have bugs that were never fixed09:54
mungbeanthat makes me sad09:54
davmor2Morning all10:02
bigcalmMorning davmor210:07
directhexintel want you to buy new things10:10
mungbeanperhaps i won't buy intel if the old things never get fixed10:10
directhexrelated: security update to intel-microcode package also disables overclocking unless you have an authorized top of the range motherboard chipset10:10
Laneyyay, Good Beer Guide 2014 just came10:13
directhexis it good?10:13
Laneyit's a huge list of pubs10:14
Laneysounds good to me10:14
mungbeanis there a bad beer guide?10:15
bigcalmDoes it review the beer?10:15
BigRedSdirecthex: fortunately you can just take it out of your initrd and not be affected10:16
Laneynope10:16
directhexBigRedS, then you have a security vuln :D10:17
mungbeanhttp://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/London201310:17
mungbeanMen socialize by insulting each other, but they don't mean it. Women socialize by complimenting each other, and they don't mean it either.10:22
mungbeanheh10:22
mungbeansome truth in that10:22
bigcalmmungbean: mostly men at our LUG, and everybody insults everybody else10:44
bigcalmIt's going to be quiet without davmor2 tonight10:44
davmor2bigcalm: Oi that's not on I insult every with equal contempt, not just people at the LUG, you ask my manager, popey and czajkowski they'll all confirm it :D10:46
davmor2s/every/everyone10:46
* czajkowski stabs davmor2 hush you10:46
davmor2bigcalm: see10:47
bigcalm:)10:47
davmor2moodoo: what's this about saluting work colleagues you only do that as you leave them forever :D11:04
DJonesJust listening to an interview with the bloke who paid for a twitter advert to complain about British Airways losing his luggage and not responding to normal tweets, just said he paid about $1000 for it, that seems a bit extreme11:20
mungbeanhow many viewers got to see it?11:22
mgdm"lots"11:23
mungbeanspending 1k to vent your rage is rather extreme11:23
DJonesmungbean: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-2394348011:23
mungbeani like to think maybe it saved a life11:23
* bigcalm returns with non-crackly sound having just edited the pulseaudio config!11:27
MartijnVdSbigcalm: 44100 vs 48000?11:30
TheOpenSourcererDJones: I always used to write the BA Exec club when I was a "frequent flyer". Whatever the content; praise or complaint, they *always* sent me a bottle of Veuve Cliquot :-D11:41
TheOpenSourcererUsed to have bottles of the stuff in my rack11:41
MartijnVdSTheOpenSourcerer: what a good idea :)11:41
DJonesSounds good11:42
TheOpenSourcererAnyone been to La Manga recently?11:42
mralcHello Ubuntu UK11:46
bigcalmMartijnVdS: http://askubuntu.com/questions/157891/skype-and-vlc-sounds-sizzle-distorted-bad11:47
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mungbeanhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-2395331412:44
mungbeanPlymouth woman 'woke up sounding Chinese'12:44
DJonesThat could have been considerably worse eg, Manchester man woke up sounding Liverpudlian :)12:55
directhexor anyone in the world waking up mancunian12:55
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mgdmThere was one I saw recently about an American guy who woke up one day speaking Swedish13:00
popeyJa!13:01
mgdmmaybe he got bitten by a møøse13:01
MartijnVdSmgdm: https://metacpan.org/module/Moose ?13:02
mgdmIf you get bitten by a moose, you start to understand Perl?13:02
mgdmBlimey, there's one to avoid13:02
MartijnVdSmgdm: at least it's not PHP13:03
MonotokoI speak Chinese too, however I always "think" in English - I woke up one morning and couldn't remember any English for the life of me13:03
Monotokocame back to me after a few minutes, but that was scary13:03
mgdmMartijnVdS: I've already got that particular variant of brain damage13:03
directhexthinking in a foreign language is super hard13:03
MartijnVdSMonotoko: that would be weird13:03
MartijnVdSdirecthex: I manage :P13:03
MartijnVdSOnce I'm in an English-speaking country for >2 days, I think in it.13:03
ali1234that happens to me about once a month13:03
ali1234it takes me about three hours to remember how to speak13:04
ali1234no joke13:04
ali1234i thought it was just normal?13:04
popeynope13:04
Monotokoali1234: First time it'd happened, and last - I was trying to think how to request help, could think of the word in Chinese13:04
MartijnVdSali1234: Aphasia?13:04
Monotokobut not English13:04
Monotokowas going through my options with taking myself to a police station down the street and trying to request a translator13:05
Monotokobut luckily it all came back13:05
ali1234i don't speak any other languages...13:05
mgdmali1234: that is a bit weird13:06
shaunoali1234: talk to yourself more often13:06
mungbeani haven't spoken to anyone since 8am :(13:07
mungbeani'm at work, and nobody else seems to have come in today13:07
MartijnVdSmungbean: aww13:07
ali1234basically i can only answer yes/no questions when in this state13:07
MartijnVdSali1234: I'd talk to a doctor about that.. if it happens often (it can be a symptom of a stroke)13:07
ali1234i've always been this way since i was a kid13:08
mungbeancan you smell toast? then either someone is making toast or you are having a stroke13:08
mungbeanbut does sound like brain damage yeah13:08
shaunomungbean: I've never heard that one13:08
mungbeanolfactory hallucinations13:09
ali1234it only happens after i wake up too, it doesn't just spontaneously happen when i'm walking down the street or something13:09
mungbeanalthough the internet wants to tell me it aint true anymore13:09
popeysounds like you're still dreaming13:10
popeyfriend of mine has that thing where he wakes up but is frozen stiff13:10
popeyhe can see and is aware he's awake but can't move or speak13:10
mungbeansleep paralysis?13:11
popeyya13:11
popeysounds related13:11
popey</doctor_pope>13:11
mungbeani dreamt i was mark owen from take that and i hadn't practised the song i had to sing13:11
shauno(awkward silence)13:11
MartijnVdSshauno: exactly13:11
mgdmI get that sleep paralysis thing too, it's horrible13:12
popeydid you see the sleep programme last night?13:12
popeypeople who sleep walk / snore / insomniacs / poor sleepers?13:12
mungbeani also get a recurring dream situation where i walk into large toiets and the floor is really slippery/flooded and unhygeinic13:12
popeywas entertaining laughing at other people's misfortune, oh yes!13:12
mungbeanand i fall over or am worried about slipping over13:12
mungbeanapparently quite common13:13
* Dave2 stabs popey a bit13:14
popey"Alan is currently making delivery number 102, you are delivery number 122."13:20
popey"Alan is approximately 1 hour 15 minutes away from you."13:20
popey\o/ DPD driver tracking13:20
directhexpopey, wow, that's a new feature13:20
popeyhe's driven all around farnborough, nearly passed my house lots, but never dropped my parcel off13:20
directhexpopey, in theory they've got an optimized route to save petrol. see also http://www.businessinsider.com/ups-efficiency-secret-our-trucks-never-turn-left-2011-313:21
popeyhttp://ubuntuone.com/2KK403DHqvERxvRMcwXe8N13:21
Monotokohow would I go about adding another DNS server? just add the IP to allow-transfer on the master?13:21
popeyomg, the dude is now literally round the corner!13:25
DJonesRun round the corner and hijack the van13:26
popeyheh13:27
DJonesWe have live vehicle tracking on our maintenance vans so we can let customers know how near the driver is to them13:28
DJonesFrom memory, it also flags up when they're speeding (or at least what speed they're doing) etc, although nobody looks at the logs for that13:29
Monotokowe had one of those at my old company... it flagged up if they were going 71 on a moterway -.-13:29
MonotokoI ended up changing it to +1513:30
ali1234we had one of those too. i made it draw a little 3D van on google earth. nobody else at the company ever looked at it13:30
DJonesThis could just have been a windup that I was told, supposedly the wife of one of the fitters came in wanting to know where he'd been on a day because she thought he was having an affair with somebody, they wouldn't tell her, but knowing how many of the fitters are making CSA payments it did sound feasable13:34
shaunomy uncle works for an outfit that go mad over vehicle tracking logs.  they'll get flagged for breaking too hard, too often, etc13:35
shaunonot just bad/inappropriate driving, but anything that's counter to a healthy mpg13:36
directhexi hate people on the road like that13:36
directhexthey give us reckless prius drivers a bad name!13:36
shaunoapparently some of the diesel options over here get better milage than the prius13:37
directhexwell... that's complicated13:38
directhexthe workloads which diesels do well on and the workloads PE hybrids do well on are basically opposites13:38
directhexi.e. diesels get amazing motorway MPG, prius sucks at motorways13:38
directhexwhereas prius does amazingly in stop-start traffic compared to a diesel13:39
mungbeanmy seat ibiza tdi was great on motorway. my focus estate 2.0l tdci, not so good13:41
directhexwhen the prius can't make use of the electric, it's just a heavy 1.5l or 1.8l (depending on age) petrol car13:42
mungbeanhow much are prius?13:43
mungbeanand what's the round town mpg?13:44
directhexnew? from 22k13:46
directhexquoted urban mpg is 72.413:47
directhexfor the 3rd gen (i have 2nd gen)13:47
directhex56.5 for the 2nd gen for urban13:48
* davmor2 can't see popey at screwfix direct live somehow13:49
mungbeanseat ecomotive is far cheaper and comparable mpg13:51
directhexmungbean, in a comparably sized car? prius is a large 5 door13:52
mungbeanthe leon is similar size13:54
mungbeanbut many ££ cheaper too13:54
mungbean"74mpg is the official combined figure, but I think I did better than that. I drove from London to Staffordshire and back, and it cost me about 7p"13:56
davmor2mungbean: what?  it's 110 miles to London from Birmingham if you only used a litre of fuel that's still 130-140 and that is one way so you must of used at least £3 as an estimate of a minimum distance travelled :P14:00
mungbeanits a quote from a review14:00
mungbeanwhat is true is that prius cost £7k more and comparable efficiency14:01
mungbeanmaybe the 7k is the "apple tax"14:01
davmor2to be honest all these hybrid cars are doing it wrong,  you make it electric from the ground up keep the fuel tank fill it with diesel and have it power an idleing/ondemand generator,  because of the small size and low speed of the generator you will use next to no fuel and have effectively and all electric car14:06
mgdmthat's how most warships work these days :-)14:08
mgdmexcept the engines are a bit bigger...14:08
GargoyleThe problem with that is TAX!14:09
mungbeanaaaah having a subwoofer under your desk is so much more satisfying than those piddly speakers, even at low volume14:14
xnoxczajkowski: hmm..... are looking for room-mates and/or sponsoring people for mongodb world? =)14:20
xnoxthat hotel is nice!14:20
popey"Alan is currently making delivery number 121, you are delivery number 122."14:26
popey\o/14:26
BigRedSpopey: DPD?14:26
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popeyya14:33
popey\o/ delivered14:33
czajkowskixnox: not sure we could be14:38
czajkowskijust annouced today...14:38
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mungbeanwas the nexus 5 "leaked" in google vid ?14:57
mungbeanhttp://i.imgur.com/2OxaFzu.png14:57
directhexLUCKY GOLDSTAR again?14:58
mungbeanallegedly15:00
mungbeani'm pretty sure goldstar was considered a terrible brand in the 80s/90s15:01
mungbeanalong with alba etc.15:02
directhexwhich is why it's just "lg" now :p15:02
mungbeansaisho15:02
mungbeanmatsui15:03
popeyamstrad ☻15:03
mgdmI always wondered why Alba were called that, since it's also Gaelic for Scotland15:03
mgdmturns out it's the owner's name contracted a bit15:03
directhexariston!15:04
mungbeanamstrad were awful. and viglen.  whoever repeats that alan sugre is some techno tycoon is just repeating what some other numpty told them15:04
mungbeanmatsui and saisho were dixons own brand15:04
mungbeanfigures15:04
mungbeangoodmans, bush...15:05
directhexgrundig15:05
mungbeanpye15:05
mungbeanAlba plc, buying Bush in 1988, and then Goodmans in 1994.15:06
mungbeanlol15:06
mungbeanits like sports direct15:06
mungbeanbuying lonsdale and kangol etc15:06
directhexi hope there's a nexus 5 mini. nexus 4 is already too big15:07
mungbeanu only had it a week :P15:07
BigRedSxscreensaver has some crazy ideas about what constitutes activity15:16
BigRedSit doesn't seem to count scrolling, for example15:17
davmor2Gargoyle: sorry for the delay,  it's not an issue for tax it would be taxed on emissions and mpg the same as all other cars which would likely be £0 or £30 at the most15:18
Gargoyledavmor2: But the diesel fuel tax… is it running a generator or a car?15:19
davmor2Gargoyle: you fill from the pump so you pay the standard rate, that's the point, feul companies are happy fuel is still being bought, eco warriors are happy there are less greenhouse gases, car manufacturers are happy as there are only minor alterations needed to a regular car etc etc15:22
mungbeanlol, rewatching the top gear nascar sucks clip15:22
dwatkinsBigRedS: I have to click, move the mouse, then click to stop GLMatrix15:23
Gargoyledavmor2: But if there is even a hint that there's a legal loophole, you'll be able to buy the fuel a lot cheaper!15:23
davmor2Gargoyle: you are putting fuel in a car the standard way it powers your car fullstop15:24
directhexinteresting. netgear NAS boxes use butterfs internally15:25
directhexi hear popey's a fan of that15:25
popeyinteresting indeed15:26
popeyhttp://www.anandtech.com/show/6835/readynas-100-300-and-500-series-reboots-netgears-smb-nas-lineup agrees15:26
directhexi was going by http://www.netgear.com/business/products/storage/ReadyNAS-3220/RN322124E.aspx#two15:29
popeynice15:39
directhexhttp://www.synology.com/products/product.php?product_name=RS3413xs%2B&lang=uk#p_submenu - thoughts?16:00
dwatkinsI really like my Synology, no idea about the high-end boxen apart from the fact a friend uses a couple of them for his virtual machines.16:02
directhexi like the SSD cache thing16:03
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/dkf878qxl5mpyxa/PANO_20130904_161423.jpg16:18
daftykinsit's a very misty day down in the harbour16:18
daftykinsCondor Vitesse there loading up with tourists to ship off :>16:18
MartijnVdShttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/2-45-cube-pc-runs-android-and-linux-on-cortex-a9-arm-chip/16:20
directhexanother dirt cheap freescale box?16:21
MartijnVdSyup16:21
bigcalmMy TV stick hasn't arrived yet :(16:21
directhexit's a lie btw. no video output on any kernel that isn't freescale's heavily patched one. SOC vendors suck16:21
directhexi think they're on 3.2 now, not 2.6.3116:21
* davmor2 throws a stick threw bigcalms tv16:22
davmor2through even16:22
MartijnVdSbad davmor2!16:22
davmor2MartijnVdS: what bigcalm  wanted a tv stick I was simply providing one :P16:23
MartijnVdSdavmor2: you should just have put glue on it16:23
bigcalmI don't want a sticky stick16:24
MartijnVdSno on the tv16:24
davmor2bigcalm: so you stick to the tv16:24
* bigcalm grumbles at nginx and tracd16:27
MartijnVdShaha trac16:29
bigcalmHow does one hup a process so that it restarts?16:30
bigcalmkill -hup ?16:30
mgdmkill -HUP $pid, yes16:30
bigcalmThanks16:30
mgdmassuming the process is set up to expect that16:30
mgdmnot all are16:30
bigcalmnginx?16:31
bigcalmI would assume that it is16:31
mgdmmost likely16:32
mgdm"SIGHUP Reload the configuration, launch new worker process(es) using this new configuration, while gracefully shutting down the old worker processes"16:33
bigcalmAh, I will try SIGHUP in the future16:33
mgdmyou send SIGHUP using kill -HUP16:34
bigcalmWhich is what I did then16:34
bigcalmFound out that I can also nginx -s stop16:34
bigcalmand then restart it16:34
mgdmyeah, just saying you'd got it right ;)16:35
bigcalmAn SSL cert has expired for one of our domains (which we are ditching). Until I get the new system 100% working, I need to reallow HTTP access to this trac server. But my web browsers are constantly redirecting HTTP to HTTPS16:36
bigcalmThis is despite making changes to both nginx and trac16:36
bigcalmmgdm: ah, goodo :)16:36
MartijnVdSbigcalm: restart your browser :)16:36
bigcalmI'm wondering if it's my web browser16:36
mgdmbigcalm: Using Chrome, or variant? Clear its cache16:36
mgdmactually Firefox probably does that too, but I use it less16:36
MartijnVdSbigcalm: also, if you used HSTS, you'll fail16:36
bigcalmmgdm: Chromium and Firefox16:36
bigcalmMartijnVdS: HSTS?16:37
MartijnVdSbigcalm: HTTP Strict Transport Security16:37
bigcalmMartijnVdS: Is that where it's set up in the SSL cert?16:37
MartijnVdSbigcalm: basically, an extra header in the HTTPS responses indicating to the browser that it can assume https:// for that host/domain for an indicated amount of time16:37
MartijnVdSbigcalm: usually several years :)16:37
MartijnVdSbigcalm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Strict_Transport_Security16:37
* bigcalm looks at clearing a cache16:37
MartijnVdSno it's response headers16:37
bigcalmBoss decided to implement "You cannot proceed because the website operator has requested heightened security for this domain."16:38
bigcalmGood except when a client needs to get to the service16:38
MartijnVdSbigcalm: clients are always a problem16:39
MartijnVdSbigcalm: better to just go without16:39
bigcalmMartijnVdS: in an ideal world :)16:39
MartijnVdSokay.. gym o'clock16:40
MartijnVdS*check to see if podcasts have finished downloading*16:40
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Myrtti*snicker* https://mikepohjola.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/dear-mr-nokia/17:15
bigcalmMyrtti: wonderful :)17:34
NET||abusehi folks, has anyone been able to get hotspot feature working ? i need to get my mobile device to be able to use my laptop wifi as it's AP, and then i can do charles proxy, or some other http(s) inspecting proxy tool17:35
* bigcalm slithers off to the LUG17:36
NET||abusethe work wifi does let wireless connections hit wired nodes :( so everyone here on a macpoop air/pro uses ICS to get the mobiles to work17:36
daftykins!ics17:43
lubotu3If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing17:43
dwatkinsNET||abuse: bluetooth sharing may be another option17:44
NET||abusedaftykins: yeh, i read that page trying to get it working but no joy, also the instructions havn't been updated in a year n' half, so probably not correct for 13.0417:46
daftykinsNET||abuse: you should probably explain in more detail how it didn't work17:46
NET||abuseok, just a year ao.17:47
NET||abusedaftykins: well, i go thorugh the GUI method, i click setup the "Hotspot", it shows me some details, but nothing becomes visible on any device that's scanning for ssid's17:48
NeotiRouters for sale. £10 per router +PnP. pm me for details -->> http://pastebin.com/tP4iWwPD17:48
daftykinsmaybe use the CLI method then? :)17:50
NET||abuseyeh, gonna try that now when i get home..17:51
NET||abusetime to leave office, doggy needs his walk.17:51
daftykins:>17:51
NET||abusecheers for the links17:51
* NET||abuse away17:52
ali1234the new yahoo groups looks exactly like G+17:58
ali1234this is actually good now17:58
ali1234haters gonna hate etc17:58
daftykinssimpletons can't handle change18:03
popeywell, i would try it out but when I try to login to yahoo i get server error18:05
popeyhttps://edit.europe.yahoo.com/forgot. It may be down for maintenance or configured incorrectly.18:05
ali1234i probably broke it when i logged in18:06
ali1234i'm sure yahoo is still running on the same 486 from 199518:06
popeyit also doesn't like my randomly generated 12 character password18:07
popeyYour password is weak. Please choose a stronger password.18:07
popeyWH#vAMfpI*7&%qcuaVn9Sfqn6czRLU5&18:07
popeythat was my password18:07
popeyalso, too weak18:07
ali1234that doesn't even make sense18:08
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AlanBellhttp://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/explore/curiosity/ whut18:47
AlanBellSorry, the platform you are using is currently not supported.18:48
AlanBellUnity supports the latest version of most browsers.18:48
MartijnVdSthe web plugin for Unity 3D doesn't support Linux, I think18:48
davmor2popey: it starts with a capital letter :)18:51
mungbeanit contains a dictionary word "a"18:52
MartijnVdSdoesn't contain a unicode snowman18:52
mungbeanlol18:52
MartijnVdSall passwords should have that18:52
mungbeantry barry12318:52
MartijnVdShi_obama_123!18:53
davmor2god18:53
MartijnVdShi_god_123!?18:53
mungbeansome people(crazy ones) dont let u put non alphanmumeric stuffs in the passwd18:54
davmor2all_your_P@55W0¬dz_belong_to_us18:55
MartijnVdSmungbean: there's only one fix for that18:55
MartijnVdSmungbean: but they abolished capital punishment18:55
mgdmcapital punishment is when you're not allowed to use uppercase18:55
MartijnVdSmgdm: OR THE OPPOSITE, YOU HAVE TO READ EVERYTHING IN CAPS18:55
MartijnVdSEVERYTHING YOU READ WILL BE UPPERCASED FIRST18:56
mgdmheh18:56
mungbeansamsung watch :-|18:56
mungbeani think watch tech is a bit lame atm18:56
MartijnVdSWhy would you need one18:57
MartijnVdSphones exist18:57
MartijnVdSand tell the time18:57
directhexAlanBell, http://unity3d.com/webplayer18:58
mungbeanuseless luxury items for PHB to wear18:58
MartijnVdSdirecthex: it's confusing for Ubuntu users.18:58
mungbeanyay i won gta chinatown DS18:59
davmor2mungbean: but these watches are so nice and they don't run out after 9 hours of use need taking off in order to be charged either :) http://shop.constantin-weisz.com/de/Herrenuhren/Herren-Automatik.html?xfb7d6=5e04e658bb2986011a646f031d2b8fea19:06
mungbeanmore of a casio fw91 man myself, as is probably 50% of the room...19:07
mungbeandont tell the NSA19:07
* popey clicks "Provide Feedback"19:08
mgdmmungbean: F91W \o/19:09
popey\o/ F91W19:09
* mgdm is wearing one right now19:09
mgdmI think it was popey's fault that I got one, though19:09
* popey has 319:09
popeyone is an A158WE though, so in disuise19:09
popey+g19:09
mungbeani wear one 24hrs, need no others19:10
popeyI have loads on my amazon wishlist19:10
mgdmah yes19:10
mgdmpopey: of f91ws?19:10
mungbeanosama was the most famous pin up model of the f91w19:11
daftykinsheh i remember the F91W19:11
daftykinshad one as a kid19:11
mungbeanwhy not now daftykins19:11
daftykinswatches are not permitted19:11
mgdmhow come?19:12
daftykinsmy wrists remain free ^_^19:12
MartijnVdSthey could conceal spy cams!19:12
daftykinsi got way too neurotic constantly watching the time, back in school, so now i go without19:12
daftykinsplus carrying a phone that always has it instead19:13
MartijnVdSdaftykins: do you also not have an alarm? :)19:13
mungbeanessential wearing for anyone who catches a train19:13
mungbeanset to T+3 mins19:13
MartijnVdSmungbean: maybe where you are.. trains go every 5-10 minutes here19:13
MartijnVdSon most busy routes anyway19:13
mungbeanoh, 15 mins at bst here, often 3019:13
daftykinsMartijnVdS: ? yeah on the phone too :P19:14
MartijnVdSsure but stations tend to be full of clocks :)19:14
mungbeanif i;m at the station then im ok19:14
daftykinsi'll bet he means for the frantic dash there19:14
MartijnVdSdaftykins: ah, I got rid of my alarm completely -- I just wake up when I feel like it (which is usually between 6 and 7)19:14
popeyYou should get a Wasp T12 Speechtool19:14
popeyIt's well weapon.19:14
mungbeanits leaving the house and the office19:14
MartijnVdSmungbean: I have PCs at the house & office, and those have a clock in the corner of the screen ;)19:14
MartijnVdSmungbean: I know that if I leave the office at :24, I can catch my :33 train easily ;)19:15
MartijnVdSand if I miss it, I get the :36 one19:15
mungbeani have interconnections etc19:15
mungbeanand if i need a wee on way home i need to know exactly how long i got19:15
MartijnVdSmungbean: the :33 and :36 trains arrive at my interchange station at the same time :)19:15
daftykinsXD19:15
mungbeani always leave it a bit tight19:15
MartijnVdSmungbean: at the same platform (Across from each other)19:15
mungbeanstupid efficient netherlands ;)19:16
MartijnVdSmungbean: Amsterdam -> Rotterdam train (via Den Haag) and Amsterdam -> Den Haag train :)19:16
MartijnVdSmungbean: leave Amsterdam 5 minutes apart, arrive in Leiden at the same time 8-)19:16
daftykinswe are sorry, the 17:30 to <anywhere> is delayed, due to a goat on the tracks19:16
MartijnVdSbecause, different routes19:16
MartijnVdSdaftykins: we just get suicidals on the tracks these days :|19:16
daftykins:o19:17
MartijnVdSdaftykins: or, in the east, sometimes cows19:17
daftykinssuicidal cows :( what is the world coming to?19:17
MartijnVdSdaftykins: what would you do, if all you could do all do was stand in a field and eat grass?19:17
mungbeanhttp://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/wing_commander_ken_wallis_dies_at_the_age_of_97_post_your_tributes_1_2365526#.Uibufs9KNFU.facebook19:17
MartijnVdS\o/ Your LEGO® order has shipped.19:18
mungbeansopwith?19:18
MartijnVdSDescription: 21103 DeLorean tijdmachine V2919:18
mungbeanthe wing commander is dead :(19:18
MartijnVdSmungbean: The W C19:18
MartijnVdS?19:18
mungbeanis he still on lug^H^H^H uupc19:18
MartijnVdShaven't heard from him in a while19:19
* brobostigon turns on the whitelist on his minecraft pe server, to be safe19:21
popeyronope19:30
popeybrobostigon: manage to get it working?19:31
popeyronope? boggle19:31
brobostigonpopey: with a pe server yes. not a normal server.19:31
popeynot the same thing?19:31
brobostigonno.19:31
brobostigonapparently not.19:31
brobostigonif anyone does want a play, give me a shout, and i will get the details.19:38
=== GentileBen is now known as GeorgeTarball
=== GeorgeTarball is now known as RaycisCharles
MartijnVdSRaycisCharles: can't you just keep one name, like everyone else?19:45
=== Hornet- is now known as Hornet
halt1Hi all, I have a kind of basic question, if my user is part of more then one group, and I have a file which owned by the secondary group and can be edit just as if I'm part of the group, then i still should be able to edit the file or is this valid just for the primay group ?21:13
mgdmif the file has 'group write' permission21:14
mgdmchmod g+w filename21:15
halt1mgdm: it does have 664 so yes it has but i still can't edit :S21:25
mgdmhalt1: Hmm. CAn you do 'groups $USER' and then 'ls -al /path/to/file' and put the results on paste.ubuntu.com ?21:26
halt1http://paste.ubuntu.com/6064213/21:29
halt1mgdm: any guees why I can't edit the file ?21:37
mgdmhalt1: weird21:38
Seeker`halt1: how are you trying to edit it?21:39
halt1nano21:39
halt1nano file21:39
Seeker`and what does it say?21:39
halt1"[ Read 29 lines (Warning: No write permission) ]"21:48
popeyread only filesystem22:18
* popey tickles d0od 22:19
halt1popey: other files which are located in the same folder but own by me is writeable22:38
popeyhow odd22:42
halt1should i log out and in maybe ?22:50
halt1f*ck that's resolved it ..... thanks guys !22:51
halt1have a good night bye22:51

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