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Trace1Hey guys, im having a problem with my external NTFS drive. Some of the files are not showing up in Ubuntu, files that have always been there. But when i plug the drive into my windows machine they are all still there. Any ideas03:05
nerdtronplug in the drive and ls -lah in the terminal and see if the files are there03:07
Trace1yes they are there now, i just plugged the drive back in, but usually if i unplug and replug the drive it will work for a few hours then the files disappear agian03:11
Trace1Ok, i tried another folder and it says input/output error03:15
Trace1well i guess it doesnt work if i unplug and replig03:19
nerdtroninput/output error did you safely removed it from windows??03:24
nerdtronand safely umounted/eject in linux?03:24
nerdtronalso plug it in windows and run the check disk of windows....Could be signs of a failing hard drive03:24
Trace1i did safely remove it from windows but did not unmount from linux, but i can read all the files in windows with no problems03:25
nerdtronTrace1, even though you can read all the files in windows doesn't necessarily mean everything is ok...03:27
nerdtronkindly run check disk just to make sujre03:28
Trace1ok i will go ahead and run the check disc now and start backing stuff up just in case, thanks for all the help, ill be back with the results im sure03:28
nerdtronbacking up is always a good idea...oh and next time, always make sure to umount/eject it xubuntu before you remove the plug03:35
Trace1this was actually the drive i kept most of my backup on and a few things here and there so luckily no big deal if its lost, running the check disk now but just noticed some files i cannot access in windows. Do you think reformatting could fix the issue or does it seem like the drive is bad?03:38
nerdtron"some files i cannot access in windows" i think this could be the result of not safely eject in xubuntu...03:40
nerdtrontry formatting the drive again and then run check disk to see any bad sectors03:41
nerdtronif there are no bad sectors, the drive is still good03:41
Trace1darn, well i guess thats better news than the drive going bad03:41
Trace1will give that a shot, thanks again for all the help03:41
nerdtronmaybe some files where just corrupted/ fail to write when you pulled out the external hard drive in ubuntu03:42
Trace1the files i checked had been on there after being removed from ubuntu before so im sure they were written, im sure they were corrupted when i pulled the plug :/03:43
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OndraEHello, does anybody have experience with installing Broadcom BCM4318 wlan driver? In my case it crashes kernel - i have 13.04, nut it laso happened in 12.0408:54
cfhowlettOndraE, how did you install it?08:56
OndraEin 13.04 throught update manager08:56
cfhowlettOndraE, and what crash message are you getting?08:56
OndraEwel its black screen with tons of text and i have to shut down the laptot manually08:58
OndraEits typical "kernel oops"08:59
cfhowlettOndraE, and only when firing up the wifi, I trust.  Well, here's an option; download the driver from broadcom, see the README and compile/install manually.  Lot more work, but usually works.http://zh-cn.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php   /// actually search for broadcom linux sta and get the local / non-chinese mirror.09:01
pmjdebruijnOndraE: did you try the firmawre with the open driver?09:01
pmjdebruijnproprietary drivers tend to suck09:01
pmjdebruijnfirmware-b43-installer / firmware-b43-lpphy-installer / firmware-b43legacy-installer09:01
OndraEoh,  I didnt try the open ones09:01
pmjdebruijnthe driver is already there09:02
pmjdebruijnbut it requires firmware which ubuntu isn't allowed to include by default IIRC09:02
pmjdebruijnso those packages download the firmware files on the fly09:02
OndraEwell i will try the drivers from link cfhowlett provided and will see09:06
pmjdebruijnlike I said, proprietary driver tend to end in tears in the long run :)09:15
OndraEso that b43legacy is not proprietary? i installed the package now and it didnt crash kesrnel, that is really weird :-D09:16
knomepmjdebruijn, that's debatable, so i would advise it always does; i've been using proprietary drivers for years and they work well for me09:16
knomepmjdebruijn, *i wouldn't09:16
pmjdebruijnthey can sometimes :)09:17
pmjdebruijnbut if you take a look there are many issues around those09:17
knomepmjdebruijn, they can be a lifesaver for some, whose hardware simply refuses to work with the open source drivers properly/adequately09:17
knomepmjdebruijn, sure, but i still wouldn't advise to never use them09:17
pmjdebruijnI didn't say that09:17
pmjdebruijnI said they often end in tears09:17
pmjdebruijnbecome they break because of some kernel upgrade or whatever09:17
knomepmjdebruijn, and that they suck... which is kind of advocating "don't use them"09:18
knomepmjdebruijn, but i'm fine, just saying.09:18
knomepmjdebruijn, ultimately, proprietary drivers can be a good debugging tool09:18
OndraEwell i have to go now, i will try setting wifi up later, thx for help!09:18
pmjdebruijnknome: if there's a open source driver that works, I'd never use a blob driver, really09:19
pmjdebruijnif there isn't an open driver, or it doesn't work, well, then you don't have much options do you09:19
pmjdebruijnyou're sortof forced too09:19
knomepmjdebruijn, sure. if the open source driver works...09:19
pmjdebruijnthe "issue" is09:20
pmjdebruijnmany people go install blobs drivers, just because the open driver needs some firwmare, that not allowed to be distributed09:20
pmjdebruijnso people perceive the open driver is not working09:20
pmjdebruijnand end up using the blob for no good reason09:20
knomepmjdebruijn, sure09:20
pmjdebruijnwhich is what my suggestion was about09:21
knomepmjdebruijn, i didn't say you specifically advised not using proprietary drivers09:21
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xubuntu656hello my laptop is booting xubuntu for first time and it is stuck on black screen is this normal?11:39
ObrienDaveWhich black screen. GRUB?11:40
Maple__image/text, please?11:41
ObrienDaveThink he left. :/11:41
bgardnerElapsed time, one minute.  :P11:41
ObrienDaveNo patience anymore.  Sheesh11:42
OndraETo all, who adviced me few hours ago about broadcom wlan drivers: Thank You! I am using open ones and they work!12:06
pmjdebruijngreat!12:07
pmjdebruijnmy point exactly :)12:07
OndraEbut i read about some problems with higher traffic, it can sometimes crash kernel, so I will see in few minutes12:08
pmjdebruijnI've been using it with my particular BCM for years now, and it's been quite solid12:10
pmjdebruijnin the first few month's after my particular BCM was supported sometimes the connection quit12:10
pmjdebruijnit's been a few years since that's happened to me12:10
pmjdebruijnas the driver is continuosly improved12:10
pmjdebruijnOndraE: so in the end, it all depends on how recent your BCM chip is :)12:10
pmjdebruijnolder chips tend to work great12:10
pmjdebruijnreally bleeding edge ones tend to work less great12:11
OndraEwell this Acer Aspire 5100 is really old piece of iron12:11
OndraEdownloading updates  and still no problem12:13
pmjdebruijnright, so it's likely to work well12:13
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RiccardoneHi all, I recently installed a Xubuntu 13.04 but apt-get update fails, but navigation is ok ... some advices ?14:03
Unit193Can you pastebin.com the output?14:04
RiccardoneUnit193: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6062747/14:04
RiccardoneUnit193: I am under proxy ...14:05
GridCubeipv6?14:05
RiccardoneGridCube: No, absolutely ...14:05
RiccardoneI can't understand in fact ...14:05
Unit193It's trying some IPv6 addresses.  http_proxy=http:myproxy:port sudo apt-get update   work?14:05
RiccardoneUnit193: i must pass this command ?14:07
GridCubehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/150210/how-do-i-set-systemwide-proxy-servers-in-xubuntu-lubuntu-or-ubuntu-studio14:07
GridCubeRiccardone,  that worked for me ^^14:07
Unit193Connection refused on all IPv4 addresses.  Well, does  wget -qO- http://ifconfig.me/ip work?14:07
RiccardoneGridCube: I'v read yet that guide but didn't work ...14:08
RiccardoneUnit193: yes14:09
yeyemanis there a setting to change underscan? I have a black boarder around the desktop15:05
yeyemanas in it doesn't max out to fit the monitor15:06
TheSheepyeyeman: try playing with xrandr15:08
yeyemancan I get more themes for the desktop appearance / window manager15:40
yeyemanthe preinstalled ones are kind of bad15:40
yeyemanI mean they are functional and so on15:41
yeyemanbut they look as if they are made by a programmer, not a designer :D15:41
TheSheepyeyeman: yeah, try xfce-look.org15:54
rosemballdoes the xubuntu installer support AF 4k?16:38
pmjdebruijnno clue16:40
pmjdebruijnprobably16:40
pmjdebruijnhttp://superuser.com/questions/148964/how-to-properly-install-wd-advanced-format-drive-in-ubuntu-as-2nd-hdd16:41
pmjdebruijnit's basically the same issue as with SSDs16:41
pmjdebruijnso I don't think it should be an issue newer newer versions16:41
pmjdebruijnhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Format#Check_your_partitions_alignment16:43
pmjdebruijnso I'm not sure, but I'd be surprised if it would be an issue for 12.04 and higher16:43
rosemballok16:50
rosemballthanks]16:50
rosemballif one is writing the install image to a usb drive (lets say sdb) would dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdb suffice or bs=4M (or other sizes commonly found in the internet) is a better option?16:53
Sysisetting bs might speed copying up a notch, otherly it won't matter16:54
Sysiif you want to view progress, use ddrescue16:55
pmjdebruijnkill -SIGUSR1 dd-process works too :D16:57
pmjdebruijnIIRC16:57
Sysiyou can also use pv but ddrescue is small and easy16:58
rosemballthanks very much17:11
DrHanyone know how to disable from switching workspaces when you drag a window to the edge (so that snapping/tiling works properly)18:04
pmjdebruijnDrH: did you check both window manager options in the settings panel18:07
TheSheepDrH: window manager -> advanced -> wrap workspaces when dragging a window off the screen18:07
DrHSettings > Window Manager > Advanced18:07
DrHliterally just found it18:07
DrHone more issue, how can i make it so when i double click the titlebar of a application it maximizes it?18:12
DrHthere seems to be a setting in Settings > Window Manager > Advanced that looks like it does that but it does nothing18:12
TheSheepDrH: it does that18:14
DrHWeird, it doesn't seem to be working for me :\18:14
DrHeh not a big deal18:17
elfyhave to say I've never managed to get the titlebar to do anything much for me18:18
knomeit shows the title, aye? :P18:18
elfyabout that - and I can get it to rollup18:19
Unit193Alt+Scroll wheel.18:19
knomeUnit193, that's eww18:19
elfythat's not useful - if I didn't want to see something I'd just roll it up :)18:20
Unit193knome: That's fun!  "Hey, where'd the window go?  I can almost see it..."18:20
knomewe're getting offtopic18:20
TiZHi. I'm trying to customize some gtk3 theme settings with .config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css, but it seems like the file is being ignored. What can I do to fix this?18:24
knomeTiZ, are you sure the applications you are using are using gtk3?18:26
TiZknome: Yeah. I'm opening gtk3 applications specifically to test it, such as file-roller and gcalctool.18:31
knomeTiZ, i wouldn't say there's any reason why it would be ignored18:31
TiZRight now, the only thing I have in gtk.css is * { margin: 3px; } just to make sure it's being opened18:32
TiZYou'd think there'd be an obnoxious 3px margin around every widget with this, but I'm not seeing it.18:32
knomeTiZ, you know gtk css is not like real css?18:33
TiZknome: I'm vaguely aware of that... I took a look at Greybird's css code to check it, and I think my code checks out.18:34
Unit193You do have to select another them, then go back at times to pick up changes.18:35
TiZRight, that's what I've been doing.18:35
yeyemanAll I want is for gedit to have matching word highlighting19:53
yeyemansob sob..19:53
Sysiyou could try geany19:54
well_laid_lawnor vim19:58
yeyemanWhere is the setting for the font of desktop icons? They have a double font thing going on making the text look blurred20:24
yeyemanI think it's supposed to look like a shadow20:25
yeyemanbut the way I have everything set up it just looks blurry20:25
yeyemanit's as if the text is there twice, but just 1 px apart20:29
yeyemanusing the blackbird theme, the background color and font color of text in the youtube comment text field are the same :D21:34
yeyemanthis negatively impacts my ability to post my insightful and clever responses there21:37
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