=== dormito_ is now known as dormito === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [03:05] Hey guys, im having a problem with my external NTFS drive. Some of the files are not showing up in Ubuntu, files that have always been there. But when i plug the drive into my windows machine they are all still there. Any ideas [03:07] plug in the drive and ls -lah in the terminal and see if the files are there [03:11] yes they are there now, i just plugged the drive back in, but usually if i unplug and replug the drive it will work for a few hours then the files disappear agian [03:15] Ok, i tried another folder and it says input/output error [03:19] well i guess it doesnt work if i unplug and replig [03:24] input/output error did you safely removed it from windows?? [03:24] and safely umounted/eject in linux? [03:24] also plug it in windows and run the check disk of windows....Could be signs of a failing hard drive [03:25] i did safely remove it from windows but did not unmount from linux, but i can read all the files in windows with no problems [03:27] Trace1, even though you can read all the files in windows doesn't necessarily mean everything is ok... [03:28] kindly run check disk just to make sujre [03:28] ok i will go ahead and run the check disc now and start backing stuff up just in case, thanks for all the help, ill be back with the results im sure [03:35] backing up is always a good idea...oh and next time, always make sure to umount/eject it xubuntu before you remove the plug [03:38] this was actually the drive i kept most of my backup on and a few things here and there so luckily no big deal if its lost, running the check disk now but just noticed some files i cannot access in windows. Do you think reformatting could fix the issue or does it seem like the drive is bad? [03:40] "some files i cannot access in windows" i think this could be the result of not safely eject in xubuntu... [03:41] try formatting the drive again and then run check disk to see any bad sectors [03:41] if there are no bad sectors, the drive is still good [03:41] darn, well i guess thats better news than the drive going bad [03:41] will give that a shot, thanks again for all the help [03:42] maybe some files where just corrupted/ fail to write when you pulled out the external hard drive in ubuntu [03:43] the files i checked had been on there after being removed from ubuntu before so im sure they were written, im sure they were corrupted when i pulled the plug :/ === io is now known as IdleOne [08:54] Hello, does anybody have experience with installing Broadcom BCM4318 wlan driver? In my case it crashes kernel - i have 13.04, nut it laso happened in 12.04 [08:56] OndraE, how did you install it? [08:56] in 13.04 throught update manager [08:56] OndraE, and what crash message are you getting? [08:58] wel its black screen with tons of text and i have to shut down the laptot manually [08:59] its typical "kernel oops" [09:01] OndraE, and only when firing up the wifi, I trust. Well, here's an option; download the driver from broadcom, see the README and compile/install manually. Lot more work, but usually works.http://zh-cn.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php /// actually search for broadcom linux sta and get the local / non-chinese mirror. [09:01] OndraE: did you try the firmawre with the open driver? [09:01] proprietary drivers tend to suck [09:01] firmware-b43-installer / firmware-b43-lpphy-installer / firmware-b43legacy-installer [09:01] oh, I didnt try the open ones [09:02] the driver is already there [09:02] but it requires firmware which ubuntu isn't allowed to include by default IIRC [09:02] so those packages download the firmware files on the fly [09:06] well i will try the drivers from link cfhowlett provided and will see [09:15] like I said, proprietary driver tend to end in tears in the long run :) [09:16] so that b43legacy is not proprietary? i installed the package now and it didnt crash kesrnel, that is really weird :-D [09:16] pmjdebruijn, that's debatable, so i would advise it always does; i've been using proprietary drivers for years and they work well for me [09:16] pmjdebruijn, *i wouldn't [09:17] they can sometimes :) [09:17] but if you take a look there are many issues around those [09:17] pmjdebruijn, they can be a lifesaver for some, whose hardware simply refuses to work with the open source drivers properly/adequately [09:17] pmjdebruijn, sure, but i still wouldn't advise to never use them [09:17] I didn't say that [09:17] I said they often end in tears [09:17] become they break because of some kernel upgrade or whatever [09:18] pmjdebruijn, and that they suck... which is kind of advocating "don't use them" [09:18] pmjdebruijn, but i'm fine, just saying. [09:18] pmjdebruijn, ultimately, proprietary drivers can be a good debugging tool [09:18] well i have to go now, i will try setting wifi up later, thx for help! [09:19] knome: if there's a open source driver that works, I'd never use a blob driver, really [09:19] if there isn't an open driver, or it doesn't work, well, then you don't have much options do you [09:19] you're sortof forced too [09:19] pmjdebruijn, sure. if the open source driver works... [09:20] the "issue" is [09:20] many people go install blobs drivers, just because the open driver needs some firwmare, that not allowed to be distributed [09:20] so people perceive the open driver is not working [09:20] and end up using the blob for no good reason [09:20] pmjdebruijn, sure [09:21] which is what my suggestion was about [09:21] pmjdebruijn, i didn't say you specifically advised not using proprietary drivers === dreadedone is now known as dreaded [11:39] hello my laptop is booting xubuntu for first time and it is stuck on black screen is this normal? [11:40] Which black screen. GRUB? [11:41] image/text, please? [11:41] Think he left. :/ [11:41] Elapsed time, one minute. :P [11:42] No patience anymore. Sheesh [12:06] To all, who adviced me few hours ago about broadcom wlan drivers: Thank You! I am using open ones and they work! [12:07] great! [12:07] my point exactly :) [12:08] but i read about some problems with higher traffic, it can sometimes crash kernel, so I will see in few minutes [12:10] I've been using it with my particular BCM for years now, and it's been quite solid [12:10] in the first few month's after my particular BCM was supported sometimes the connection quit [12:10] it's been a few years since that's happened to me [12:10] as the driver is continuosly improved [12:10] OndraE: so in the end, it all depends on how recent your BCM chip is :) [12:10] older chips tend to work great [12:11] really bleeding edge ones tend to work less great [12:11] well this Acer Aspire 5100 is really old piece of iron [12:13] downloading updates and still no problem [12:13] right, so it's likely to work well === Hund_ is now known as Hund === jhenke_ is now known as jhenke [14:03] Hi all, I recently installed a Xubuntu 13.04 but apt-get update fails, but navigation is ok ... some advices ? [14:04] Can you pastebin.com the output? [14:04] Unit193: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6062747/ [14:05] Unit193: I am under proxy ... [14:05] ipv6? [14:05] GridCube: No, absolutely ... [14:05] I can't understand in fact ... [14:05] It's trying some IPv6 addresses. http_proxy=http:myproxy:port sudo apt-get update work? [14:07] Unit193: i must pass this command ? [14:07] http://askubuntu.com/questions/150210/how-do-i-set-systemwide-proxy-servers-in-xubuntu-lubuntu-or-ubuntu-studio [14:07] Riccardone, that worked for me ^^ [14:07] Connection refused on all IPv4 addresses. Well, does wget -qO- http://ifconfig.me/ip work? [14:08] GridCube: I'v read yet that guide but didn't work ... [14:09] Unit193: yes [15:05] is there a setting to change underscan? I have a black boarder around the desktop [15:06] as in it doesn't max out to fit the monitor [15:08] yeyeman: try playing with xrandr [15:40] can I get more themes for the desktop appearance / window manager [15:40] the preinstalled ones are kind of bad [15:41] I mean they are functional and so on [15:41] but they look as if they are made by a programmer, not a designer :D [15:54] yeyeman: yeah, try xfce-look.org [16:38] does the xubuntu installer support AF 4k? [16:40] no clue [16:40] probably [16:41] http://superuser.com/questions/148964/how-to-properly-install-wd-advanced-format-drive-in-ubuntu-as-2nd-hdd [16:41] it's basically the same issue as with SSDs [16:41] so I don't think it should be an issue newer newer versions [16:43] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Format#Check_your_partitions_alignment [16:43] so I'm not sure, but I'd be surprised if it would be an issue for 12.04 and higher [16:50] ok [16:50] thanks] [16:53] if one is writing the install image to a usb drive (lets say sdb) would dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdb suffice or bs=4M (or other sizes commonly found in the internet) is a better option? [16:54] setting bs might speed copying up a notch, otherly it won't matter [16:55] if you want to view progress, use ddrescue [16:57] kill -SIGUSR1 dd-process works too :D [16:57] IIRC [16:58] you can also use pv but ddrescue is small and easy [17:11] thanks very much [18:04] anyone know how to disable from switching workspaces when you drag a window to the edge (so that snapping/tiling works properly) [18:07] DrH: did you check both window manager options in the settings panel [18:07] DrH: window manager -> advanced -> wrap workspaces when dragging a window off the screen [18:07] Settings > Window Manager > Advanced [18:07] literally just found it [18:12] one more issue, how can i make it so when i double click the titlebar of a application it maximizes it? [18:12] there seems to be a setting in Settings > Window Manager > Advanced that looks like it does that but it does nothing [18:14] DrH: it does that [18:14] Weird, it doesn't seem to be working for me :\ [18:17] eh not a big deal [18:18] have to say I've never managed to get the titlebar to do anything much for me [18:18] it shows the title, aye? :P [18:19] about that - and I can get it to rollup [18:19] Alt+Scroll wheel. [18:19] Unit193, that's eww [18:20] that's not useful - if I didn't want to see something I'd just roll it up :) [18:20] knome: That's fun! "Hey, where'd the window go? I can almost see it..." [18:20] we're getting offtopic [18:24] Hi. I'm trying to customize some gtk3 theme settings with .config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css, but it seems like the file is being ignored. What can I do to fix this? [18:26] TiZ, are you sure the applications you are using are using gtk3? [18:31] knome: Yeah. I'm opening gtk3 applications specifically to test it, such as file-roller and gcalctool. [18:31] TiZ, i wouldn't say there's any reason why it would be ignored [18:32] Right now, the only thing I have in gtk.css is * { margin: 3px; } just to make sure it's being opened [18:32] You'd think there'd be an obnoxious 3px margin around every widget with this, but I'm not seeing it. [18:33] TiZ, you know gtk css is not like real css? [18:34] knome: I'm vaguely aware of that... I took a look at Greybird's css code to check it, and I think my code checks out. [18:35] You do have to select another them, then go back at times to pick up changes. [18:35] Right, that's what I've been doing. [19:53] All I want is for gedit to have matching word highlighting [19:53] sob sob.. [19:54] you could try geany [19:58] or vim [20:24] Where is the setting for the font of desktop icons? They have a double font thing going on making the text look blurred [20:25] I think it's supposed to look like a shadow [20:25] but the way I have everything set up it just looks blurry [20:29] it's as if the text is there twice, but just 1 px apart [21:34] using the blackbird theme, the background color and font color of text in the youtube comment text field are the same :D [21:37] this negatively impacts my ability to post my insightful and clever responses there === Maple__ is now known as not_a_ban_evader === not_a_ban_evader is now known as neverbeenk-lined === neverbeenk-lined is now known as [Dainbow_Rash] === [Dainbow_Rash] is now known as Maple__