| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1220967] The new Network Manager applet does not connect after WEP password @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1220967 (by Marco Parillo) | 01:50 |
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| soee | good morning | 06:13 |
| cff | Is there KDevelop 4.5.1 in Kubuntu Backports? | 06:17 |
| === 6JTAAJ8H9 is now known as Toscalix | ||
| seaLne | cff: yes | 09:40 |
| cff | seaLne: thanks, I think I had the wrong backports repo, i.e. for the previous Kubuntu version and it was deactivated when I did an upgrade, that's why I couldn't find it | 09:41 |
| Riddell | you can also look in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages | 09:41 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 12:05 |
| === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.1 saucy/ninjas 4.11.0 saucy/archive raring/backports precise/ninjas | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support | 13.10 Beta 1 to be released today | ||
| shadeslayer | srsly, no one looking at getting 4.11.1 out? | 12:30 |
| shadeslayer | :< | 12:30 |
| shadeslayer | soee: raring 4.11.1 in ninjas is ready | 12:38 |
| shadeslayer | I think you wanted to test right> | 12:38 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, you can get it out, the block is lifted | 12:40 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: someone needs to QA | 12:41 |
| * smartboyhw has no bandwidth to QA:( | 12:41 | |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, wait, you mean Saucy or Raring? | 12:41 |
| * shadeslayer is listening to Queen to get his brain running | 12:41 | |
| smartboyhw | lol | 12:41 |
| shadeslayer | specifically this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM | 12:42 |
| soee | shadeslayer, im at work now, on raring but i wont risk broking system here :) ill test at home | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | soee: np | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | someone needs to automate testing | 12:43 |
| shadeslayer | with kvm / virtualbox / whatever | 12:43 |
| * smartboyhw nominates shadeslayer | 12:45 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: could be done with ec2 | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | hmmmmm | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | maybe | 12:46 |
| * yofel upgrades saucy | 12:47 | |
| === apol__ is now known as apol | ||
| BluesKaj | yofel, what's your ninja ppa again ?, some it got lost in my sources.list | 13:38 |
| BluesKaj | somehow | 13:38 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: pm | 13:38 |
| BluesKaj | yup | 13:39 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 13:39 |
| skaet | Riddell, have you finished all your edits on the Release notes now? Any gotcha's still lurking from Kubuntu's perspective? | 13:39 |
| BluesKaj | thanks yofel | 13:39 |
| Riddell | skaet: good question, which release notes? | 13:42 |
| skaet | Riddell, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta1/Kubuntu | 13:42 |
| skaet | have seen you've made some edits, and they look reasonable, so just checking nothing else left to do | 13:42 |
| === apol_ is now known as apol | ||
| Riddell | skaet: yeah those ones are good | 13:45 |
| Riddell | skaet: is there a draft of the announcement? | 13:46 |
| skaet | Riddell, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta1/Announce | 13:46 |
| skaet | Review passes on it welcome. :-) | 13:47 |
| Riddell | skaet: groovy, fixed an "an" | 13:48 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: remind me the conclusion of the about system discussion? was it going in kickoff? | 13:48 |
| skaet | Riddell, ta. | 13:48 |
| BluesKaj | ok yofel , kde upgrade is done ...wish me luck , going to reboot | 13:55 |
| yofel | hm, for me it's removing plasma-widgets-addons | 13:58 |
| * yofel rebuilds kdeplasma-addons | 13:58 | |
| Riddell | http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2013/09/debian-kubuntu-bug-squashing-party-2013/ ta da! | 14:03 |
| smartboyhw | Ooh | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, yofel , looking good for kde 4.11.1 so far | 14:10 |
| smartboyhw | BluesKaj, greato | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: will you be coming? | 14:12 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: to munich? yeah I hope so | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | yep, munich | 14:13 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 14:13 |
| * shadeslayer is unsure at the moment, travelling to Berlin early october | 14:14 | |
| === Darkwing_ is now known as Darkwing | ||
| smartboyhw | Darkwing, hello:) | 14:15 |
| Darkwing | Good morning :) | 14:15 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning Darkwing | 14:15 |
| Darkwing | How is everything in Kubu Land? | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | upgrading the desktop , guess i should on the test drive too | 14:16 |
| Riddell | gosh it's a Darkwing | 14:16 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: everything is sweetness and light | 14:17 |
| BluesKaj | bbiab | 14:17 |
| Darkwing | Riddell: :D Nice. | 14:17 |
| Darkwing | I've been playing with other stuff but, I think I'll end up back to Kubuntu... I've tried to make other things work but... It's just not the same anymore. | 14:18 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: ooh interesting and nice to hear | 14:18 |
| smartboyhw | Darkwing, we're soon going to release 13.10 Beat 1 | 14:18 |
| smartboyhw | *Beta | 14:18 |
| Darkwing | I've run Fedora KDE and openSuse for the last couple months. | 14:19 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: what sort of things work for us but less so for the competition? | 14:19 |
| smartboyhw | Darkwing, see? You can't leave Kubuntu. It's an addictive disease:P | 14:19 |
| Darkwing | backend stability | 14:19 |
| smartboyhw | Darkwing, great:) | 14:19 |
| Darkwing | I mean, openSuse sank on dual moniter | 14:19 |
| Darkwing | So, I can't run it on my desktop and only on lappy | 14:20 |
| Darkwing | fedora was... a pain to do anything. | 14:20 |
| smartboyhw | Darkwing, that's why Kubuntu is greatness | 14:20 |
| Darkwing | It's snappier but, to add anything and get backend working the way I needed it to took 4 days of tweaking | 14:20 |
| Darkwing | and yum plain... suck | 14:21 |
| Darkwing | So, I have another project I'm working on so, I'm not returning to Kubuntu development just yet due to time... | 14:22 |
| Darkwing | http://igg.me/at/podfiber is what I'm spending my devel time on. | 14:22 |
| smartboyhw | Darkwing, when you got any time, come back:) | 14:22 |
| Darkwing | I'm going to download Kubuntu 13.10 and flip my system :D | 14:23 |
| smartboyhw | Well, if it succeeds, at least Darkwing is better than Canonical:P | 14:23 |
| Darkwing | LOL | 14:23 |
| Darkwing | I love how they kept spinning it when they realized it was going to fail | 14:24 |
| Darkwing | The beta1 images good right? | 14:35 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: I've marked them as good for release yes, but more testing is welcome :) | 14:35 |
| Darkwing | I'll run them on my desktop and laptop. :D | 14:36 |
| * Darkwing is done with yum and rodhat and suse based systems | 14:36 | |
| agateau | Riddell: looking at the wifi issues right now, | 14:38 |
| BluesKaj | beta1 and kde 4.11.1 are humming along | 14:38 |
| agateau | Riddell: do you get to reliably connect to wifi from a plasma session? | 14:38 |
| Darkwing | agateau: I'll take a look when I install here shortly. | 14:39 |
| agateau | Darkwing: thanks. Something like one time out of ten. When it fails, it just sits there after clicking the "Connect" button, doing nothing | 14:40 |
| agateau | but that's in a VM, which may be the cause (not sure) | 14:40 |
| Darkwing | give me a few, it's finishing DLing now | 14:41 |
| Riddell | agateau: yes all fine in a full plasma session | 14:41 |
| agateau | Riddell: I also noticed Ubiquity wireless step does not connect here: I get a crash because of a permission error. I am not talking about oem-config, just plain install in vm | 14:43 |
| Riddell | agateau: I only tested oem-config in a vm so that might be related | 14:45 |
| Riddell | when I run virtualbox it gets a "wired" connection and network manager finds that so the wireless part of ubiquity was never showed | 14:45 |
| Riddell | but in oem-config and ubiquity --only network manager isn't running so it crashes | 14:46 |
| agateau | Riddell: what I do to test in vm is to "unplug" the wired connection cable and use a usb wireless dongle | 14:47 |
| Riddell | agateau: which vm do you use? | 14:48 |
| agateau | Riddell: virtualbox | 14:52 |
| agateau | with the proprietary stuff to be able to use usb devices | 14:52 |
| Riddell | agateau: ok same as me, I must explore more options | 14:52 |
| Riddell | quick off the mark http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kubuntu-13-10-Beta-1-Uses-Linux-Kernel-3-11-and-KDE-4-11-380643.shtml | 14:54 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, :) | 14:54 |
| smartboyhw | Technically, it hasn't been released though | 14:54 |
| smartboyhw | I think we need to remind Softpedia | 14:55 |
| Riddell | right, especially quick given it hasn't been announced | 14:55 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: they probably found the announce wiki page which doesn't have any embargo on it | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, hmm | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | well, cdimage is also up | 14:57 |
| * shadeslayer seeds | 14:58 | |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, they are still testing the links and finishing up the release announcement and notes | 14:58 |
| seaLne | its quite impressive how good kubuntu is considering according to softpedia it only took a few months effort (http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Kubuntu-Saucy-Salamander-100450.shtml) | 14:58 |
| Riddell | yeah that's normal and always the case, got to mirror it before announcing | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 14:59 |
| shadeslayer | seaLne: lol | 14:59 |
| smartboyhw | LOL https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/102786751626732213960/albums/5920153445803139617/5920153451677973842?authkey=CKDQ8tbbxYSXGA | 15:07 |
| smartboyhw | (From G+) | 15:07 |
| * smartboyhw almost rolled down from his chair for this:P | 15:07 | |
| smartboyhw | People: Here's the situation of KLyDE: THey are planning a preview release weeks after now (with 4.11.1 running), but they themselves will be maintaining their own Debian/Ubuntu repository via openSUSE's OBS service | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | The source will be available for us to package | 15:30 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: who's they? it's will from suse isn't it? | 15:31 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, not exactly | 15:31 |
| smartboyhw | The original Cloverleaf Linux (a.k.a. post-Fuduntu team) took over | 15:31 |
| agateau | xnox: ping | 15:44 |
| agateau | Riddell: do you know what starts ubiquity at livecd boot, rather than plasma? | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: regarding KLyDE we should maybe ask them to host the source in a git repo ( maybe even on git.kde.org ) and then we can package releases of it, or provide daily builds via recipes | 15:53 |
| Riddell | agateau: ubiquity-dm does | 15:59 |
| agateau | Riddell: I can't get it to start. I am trying with "sudo start ubiquity-dm" but it fails | 16:00 |
| agateau | Riddell: and it's strange that the upstart script mentions starting it using the "ubuntu" user, which does not exist on a kubuntu install | 16:00 |
| agateau | errr "sudo start ubiquity" | 16:01 |
| xnox | but do switch to tty1, stop lightdm and kill any remainging X servers | 16:01 |
| Riddell | agateau: is this a live image? there's things ona live image not on an installed system | 16:01 |
| agateau | Riddell: yes, it's a live image | 16:01 |
| agateau | Riddell: I already shut down lightdm and X | 16:02 |
| Riddell | the ubuntu user is called kubuntu on kubuntu CDs | 16:02 |
| xnox | Riddell: sure there is loads =) we do remove a bunch of packages from target at the end of the ubiquity install. | 16:02 |
| agateau | Riddell: sure the ubuntu user is called kubuntu, but here the ubiquity.conf scripts refers to "ubuntu" | 16:03 |
| agateau | Oh looking at the code it seems the name can be overridden by casper | 16:07 |
| agateau | explains things | 16:07 |
| agateau | but still I'd love to be able to try my stuff since rebooting is going to trash it | 16:07 |
| agateau | :/ | 16:07 |
| Riddell | agateau: you can try a persistent partition, seems like a bit of a last resort | 16:18 |
| agateau | Riddell: I just figured out a workaround: starting ubiquity-dm by hand. But that required changing it because it was defaulting to the gtk ui (my fault) | 16:19 |
| Riddell | mm maybe that's what I remember doing when I tried it | 16:20 |
| agateau | Riddell: anyway, I was able to check that wireless setup from within ubiquity-dm worked back in july, | 16:20 |
| agateau | Riddell: but does not work as of today | 16:20 |
| agateau | Riddell: so something broke in between | 16:21 |
| Riddell | !testers | libdvdcss from upstream http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html | 16:33 |
| Riddell | hmm | 16:33 |
| Riddell | no ubotu | 16:33 |
| agateau | xnox: does this ring a bell to you? http://agateau.com/tmp//ubiquity-wifi-crash.png | 16:38 |
| agateau | xnox: this is with iso from this morning | 16:38 |
| xnox | agateau: if it works from => try kubuntu => launch ubiquity, it's most likely the bug that ubiquity-dm does not setup a logind session & thus can no longer let mere mortals control network manager. | 16:39 |
| xnox | as consolekit integration in ubiquity-dm and in ubuntu is gone. | 16:39 |
| xnox | and only logind is supported in the archive, but not ubiquity yet. | 16:39 |
| agateau | xnox: interesting, going to check that | 16:39 |
| agateau | xnox: does this also affect the gtk frontend? | 16:40 |
| xnox | yes. | 16:40 |
| agateau | it does work when ubiquity is started from a desktop session | 16:41 |
| xnox | agateau: than it's something else. | 16:42 |
| xnox | agateau: maybe something like policykit blocking it? | 16:42 |
| agateau | xnox: ? I just said it works when going "try kubuntu => launch ubiquity" | 16:43 |
| xnox | I also switched ubiquity to use pkexec instead of sudo/gnome-sudo/kde-su, which may be clearning to much environment. | 16:43 |
| xnox | agateau: it should, it does on gtk side. | 16:43 |
| agateau | now I am confused. | 16:43 |
| agateau | you're saying wifi works on the gtk side, even when ubiquity is running as a dm? | 16:44 |
| xnox | no, only from "try ubuntu => launch ubiquity" | 16:44 |
| agateau | ok, so we have the same problem with kubuntu | 16:44 |
| tsimpson | Riddell: ubottu doesn't like URLs with factoids (spam protection) | 16:45 |
| agateau | xnox: could Riddell oem-config bug 1220193 be caused by the same problem? | 16:47 |
| ubottu | bug 1220193 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity kde frontend crash setting up wireless when ubiquity only or oem-config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1220193 | 16:47 |
| * agateau has to go | 17:00 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I see you pushed a patch to kde-workspace in bzr | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: but nothing in the ninjas PPA | 17:42 |
| Darkwing | are there any Alt images for 13.04 for a software raid? | 19:06 |
| Darkwing | all I can find post Precise is desktop images | 19:07 |
| soee_ninja | shadeslayer, so 4.11.1 raring ready to test ? | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | soee_ninja: yes | 19:13 |
| soee_ninja | hmm using muon to change repositories list | 19:17 |
| soee_ninja | just reloads list nothing more | 19:18 |
| soee_ninja | shadeslayer, can you give me ninjas ppa details ? | 19:19 |
| shadeslayer | moment | 19:22 |
| shadeslayer | soee_ninja: see PM | 19:23 |
| xnox | Darkwing: use mini.iso or server cd and choose desktop task (e.g. ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, etc as needed) | 19:26 |
| soee_ninja | shadeslayer, packages to be removed: kde-window-manager kde-workspace kubuntu-desktop libtaskmanager4abi4 | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | soee_ninja: what are you using to upgrade | 19:27 |
| soee_ninja | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | ah hmm | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | sec | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | libtaskmanager4abi4 being removed is fine | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | I don't know why kde-window-manager wants to be removed | 19:28 |
| soee_ninja | nor do i :) | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | can you run with the debug resolver? | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | soee_ninja: sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true dist-upgrade | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | and then pastebin the output | 19:29 |
| soee_ninja | shadeslayer, http://pastebin.com/yruhX38u | 19:30 |
| shadeslayer | what Removing kde-window-manager:amd64 rather than change libkdecorations4abi1:amd64 | 19:31 |
| soee_ninja | i do not know | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: ^^ | 19:32 |
| soee_ninja | shadeslayer, sorry my fault :<> | 19:34 |
| soee_ninja | i tun it on saucy | 19:34 |
| soee_ninja | *run | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 19:34 |
| soee_ninja | wait ill switch to raring :D | 19:34 |
| genii | Got an email from KDE bug 324002 ( systemsettings, opening input devices crashes) with a comment from Hugo Pereira Da Costa, saying "code crashes in qobject_cast. Analysing the backtrace, it must be that widget: 0x1db1f50 for which sizehints is called is invalid. this has to be an upstream (Qt) or downstream (the python module) bug. Not oxygen. Sorry." ...for those working on this issue. | 19:36 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 324002 in style "System settings panel crashes upon attempts to access input devices" [Crash,Resolved: waitingforinfo] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324002 | 19:36 |
| soee_ninja | shadeslayer, no errors while upgrading on raring, rebooting laptop now | 20:20 |
| soee_ninja | are there packages for raring ready ? | 20:20 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1200523] Some of the kubuntu patches break plasma @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1200523 (by karaluh) | 20:20 |
| shadeslayer | soee_ninja: awesome | 20:21 |
| soee_ninja | ican we some day expect | 20:21 |
| soee_ninja | that booting screen will work with propriety drivers ? | 20:22 |
| soee_ninja | reboot went fine :) | 20:23 |
| soee_ninja | raring cool | 20:23 |
| debfx | ScottK: thanks for moving qt to updates, the other qt sru is in the queue. | 20:57 |
| ScottK | Cool. Thanks. | 20:58 |
| ScottK | Accepted. | 21:00 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1180067] No icons on buttons @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1180067 (by GamePad64) | 21:25 |
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