[19:59] <jnbek> hello, I apologize for coming in here to ask, any English speakers here, I found a word in a number of Danish language documents, Frcrnde I was wondering if someone could offer a translation as to what this word means?
[20:12] <pixiarvai> jnbek, i can try :) what word are we talking about?
[20:12] <jnbek> Frcrnde
[20:13] <jnbek> these are older documents, 1850sish
[20:13] <jnbek> I'm doing Genealogical research for the name Paatrud, from Norway, and I got alot of hits to these documents
[20:13] <pixiarvai> ahh ok. that explains why i don't know it
[20:14] <jnbek> from what I've found so far, it might be a surname
[20:14] <jnbek> I just wanted to make sure it wasn't some kind of abbreviation
[20:15] <jarlen> It looks like your misreading the letter
[20:15] <pixiarvai> i have the latest dictionary. i can try to look it up
[20:16] <pixiarvai> but im pretty sure that it dosn't exist
[20:16] <jnbek> thanks guys, I appreciate it :)
[20:17] <jarlen> maybe the letters has been blurred out where you've read it
[20:19] <pixiarvai> i can't find it. do you have a link to the document online?
[20:19] <jnbek> maybe, http://books.google.com/books?id=3gdDAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA109&lpg=PA109&dq=Paatrud&source=bl&ots=v4vby141Z4&sig=SjKS7nB11Ox1Iu1slp6X8rDhx3o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lOYoUpKTH8KdiQK5m4DoAw&ved=0CGMQ6AEwBzgK is the book I found it, in the phrase in context is:
[20:19] <jnbek> ... satte ulcrrde Dra- velsmcrnd til Biflopper, aldrig ftraffede sine Tjenere og Foge- der, samt vilde paatrue Sverige sin Frcrnde, Hertug Bugis- lav, til Konge.
[20:20] <jnbek> brb
[20:22] <pixiarvai> i got it :) . give me 2 minuttes
[20:22] <jnbek> awesome
[20:25] <pixiarvai> its a problem with the danish letter "æ" in frænde. that means "slægtning" in danish, and can be translate to :
[20:26] <pixiarvai> relative or relation
[20:27] <jnbek> I see
[20:28] <jnbek> so the print press likely wasn't able to render the æ letter legibly
[20:28] <jnbek> so google's reader munged it into c
[20:29] <jnbek> now that makes sense :)
[20:30] <jnbek> so samt vilde paa true Sverige sin frænde translates clean to and wild to threaten Sweden's kinsman
[20:30] <jnbek> thanks guys!!!
[20:30] <pixiarvai> frænde can also means: kinsman (from my dictionary)
[20:30] <pixiarvai> and google says the same http://translate.google.dk/#da/en/fr%C3%A6nde
[20:31] <jnbek> any problem with me lurking in here and asking for further assistance ?
[20:31] <jnbek> :D
[20:31] <pixiarvai> no. we dont have many visitors, so just come back again :)
[20:34] <jnbek> awesome, thanks :)
[20:44] <pixiarvai> jnbek,  perhabs you can use this site in the future http://www.dsn.dk/ro/ro.htm
[20:45] <jnbek> bookmarked
[20:47] <pixiarvai> and this one http://ordnet.dk/  . notice that one of theme are "1700 ti 1950".
[20:47] <pixiarvai> ti=to
[20:47] <pixiarvai> http://www.denstoredanske.dk/
[20:49] <pixiarvai> and i know this site from my historyteacher http://danmarkshistorien.dk/