[00:49] i have a LAMP/apache2 server. The web page part works great. I also have file that I need for an application on the server that is 5 dirs down from the web server root. I get Forbidden response when I try to wget the file. What should the permissions / user [00:49] ;groups be to get this to behave? [00:50] NickyP: you need to make sure that the file can be read by the web server, and all directories above it can be read and traversed by the web server [00:51] If is try to wget the index.html off the top I get the same thing [00:51] Forbidden [00:52] NickyP: ah, nice. that gives you some good evidence to look for in the logs. [00:53] should the user:group be www-data for both [00:54] It would be better if the webserver didn't own the data. [00:54] k [00:56] what is the common log location. there seems some indirection in the docs about it [00:57] NickyP: check /var/log/apache2/ for a first shot (this is me guessing :) [00:57] k. ty [00:59] www-data should not own any files, but those files should be readable by www-data [00:59] meaning, either grant world-read or use acls === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === jtv1 is now known as jtv === thumper is now known as thumper-afk === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === Jikan is now known as Jikai === smb` is now known as smb === Jikai is now known as Jikan === Jikan is now known as Jikai === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === Jikai is now known as Jikan === Jikan is now known as Jikai === dosaboy_ is now known as dosaboy === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === thumper-afk is now known as thumper === Jikai is now known as Jikan [10:59] what's the way to disable a service from auto starting on boot in ubuntu? [11:18] BullShark: does the service get started through an upstart job? === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away [11:20] geser -> the service is postfix [11:21] it's in /etc/init.d/postfix [11:22] sudo update-rc.d postfix disable [11:23] geser -> that is disabling for all runlevels? [11:23] yes [11:24] see the manpage for update-rc.d if you want to disable it for specific runlevels [11:25] yep, i was looking [11:25] update-rc.d [-n] disable|enable [S|2|3|4|5] [11:26] this update-rc.d command doesn't do similar to chkconfig --list [11:26] =/ === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying [11:45] Hello folks! [11:45] Is there any reason I should not use 13.04 on a production server? === deegee is now known as drussell [11:58] hi [11:58] i just added a new hard disk to my machine [11:58] i use frisk -l and it appears [11:58] without partition table [11:58] how can I add it and format it? [11:59] cfdisk [12:19] why this http://pastebin.com/tmcrygK4 [12:24] hxm: erm - why ntfs? [13:00] rbasak: ping http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066380/ (i just wanted to get a second pair of eyes before uploading this) [13:21] what does "allow-hotplug" do in the /etc/network/interfaces file? === HeartNew is now known as NewHeart [13:23] zetheroo1, man interfaces ? [13:27] zul: should the pocket be precise on that changelog? I'm not familiar with uploading to the cloud archive. [13:28] rbasak: nah needs to go to saucy first then its backported to precise [13:28] zul: dropping 0007-Use-TIME_UTC_-macro.patch lgtm assuming that you're only going to build that with an older version of boost. If you're building for saucy too, won't that FTBFS in saucy then? [13:28] rbasak: nope built it on saucy as well [13:28] zul: it looks like the patch was supposed to handle both cases, but I guess that's not working. Is something defining MONGO_BOOST_TIME_UTC_HACK when it shouldn't? [13:29] rbasak: yeah basically it removed the boost detection version when using MONGO_BOOST_TIME_UTC_HACK [13:30] Did that patch come from Debian? [13:30] i think so [13:30] I'm just confused as to why it's there otherwise. If Debian put it there because Debian are ahead of us on boost, then will we FTBFS again when we transition? [13:30] it shouldnt === wickedpuppy2 is now known as wickedpuppy === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away [14:50] Hello all, How do I set a service to run at start? *using server 12.04 [14:51] and are there any heartbeat resident experts around ;-) === caribou_ is now known as Caribou [15:06] hi all === andrew is now known as Guest17413 === Guest17413 is now known as lequtix [15:06] there we go [15:06] hi everone [15:11] hallyn_: ping. Do you know of any libvirt issues on precise wrt. ownership and permissions of directory-based volume image files? It works on saucy, but in precise when I try to start an instance libvirt changes the permissions of disk images to root.root, and then can't open them. [15:11] (this is despite me explicitly telling it what uid/gid to use. libvirt seems to ignore that when it creates the volume, and vol-dumpxml returns -1 for uid and gid. [15:11] ) [15:11] did u try using sticky bit? [15:11] or setguid [15:12] on the parent directory [15:12] does libvirt have a config files somewhere you can change the createmask [15:12] lequtix: thanks for the thought. But the mode it uses is 0600, so manipulating group ownership on its own won't help [15:13] yea but it has to be the parent directory [15:13] THe problem here seems to be that the default means that it just won't work. [15:13] i find messing with individual files is useless.. try setting the mask on the parent dir [15:14] i was running minecraft once.. i wanted to make it so the OP's couldn't op anyone else.. so i set the permissions on the file to 555 .. it wouldn't work.. the only time i could secure the file was by securing the parent dir [15:15] lequtix: the sgid bit didn't help. It seems that libvirt is overwriting the permissions after it creates the file [15:15] i had to make a dir.. put the ops.txt file in the dir.. and put a symlink to it [15:15] set permissions of dir to 555 [15:15] libvirt should be doing the right thing by default. [15:15] thats just my experience [15:15] rbasak: yeah i think historically the ownership handling wasn't done very well. There were some patches relating to DAC gong by recently so maybe that's why it's fixed in saucy [15:15] rbasak: but the question is: why can't libvirtd open them, it runs as root [15:16] linux file permissions is somewhat of a mystery [15:16] hallyn_: it's qemu that can't open them. [15:16] hallyn_: I presume qemu is running as libvirt-qemu.kvm or something. [15:16] what about running the virtualization daemon as another user [15:16] rbasak: yeah and libvirtd def should chown them for it. [15:16] rbasak: are you doing anything custom? [15:16] hallyn_: yes, to some extent. I'm creating my own volume pool. [15:17] rbasak: what sort of pool? is apparmor perhaps not allowing qemu to read there? [15:17] its as if it can't read the file, so it's recreating it with bad permissions [15:17] hallyn_: aha. Yes! [15:17] hallyn_: thanks. [15:17] np [15:18] * rbasak wonders what's different with apparmor in saucy [15:19] we may have added something... are you using ceph? [15:19] No. Just libvirt + ubuntu cloud images. [15:19] It might be that the newer libvirt-specific apparmor wrapper thing parses the definition and makes the images readable? [15:20] It looks like the generated profile is correctly adding the file entries for my different pool location [15:20] good morning all, I am attempting to get a cron task to run every 5 minutes, but for some reason I cant seem to get it to run... I can run it fine manually though... [15:20] I guess something's just going wrong with that. [15:21] just disable apparmor and see if it magically works [15:21] is that possible [15:21] ? [15:21] if it works you've found your issue.. then u know what to work on [15:21] Yes, I'm looking into that. [15:21] Unfortunately libvirt apparmor profiles are dynamic so I'm not sure it's trivial. [15:21] this should work for every 5 minutes, correct? [15:21] */5 * * * * /usr/bin/php /www/mwtraining/admin/cli/cron.php /www/mwtraining/cron-log.txt [15:22] well.. if they are dynamic then there must be a config file that outlines it's behavior [15:22] Arrick, if it's a 5 minute interval it's easy to test right? [15:23] :O [15:23] lequtix, thats why i am asking... is that setup right, because I cant find any proof that it's running. [15:23] make another job identical except have it write some random data to a text file... [15:24] echo "it works!!!" >/opt/fart.txt [15:24] then in 5 minutes check fart.txt [15:25] the last time it ran was august 20... and I am not understainding why. [15:25] Arrick: is cron running? [15:26] # Minute Hour Day of Month Month Day of Week Command [15:26] dont know how to tel. [15:26] Arrick: ps axf| grep -i cron [15:26] Arrick: pastebin the output of that [15:26] !pastebin | Arrick [15:26] Arrick: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [15:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066899/ [15:27] I think that means its stopped right? [15:28] */5 * * * * /home/ramesh/backup.sh will execute every 5 minutes [15:28] provided that cron is running [15:28] RoyK, ^ [15:30] you have a crontab editor open? [15:30] but yea other than that it doesn't look like u have cron running [15:30] I did have it open. [15:31] How do I get it running? [15:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066912/ [15:31] thats what mine looks like [15:31] Arrick: cron runs as pid 1152 according to that [15:31] is it running then? [15:31] yes [15:32] ok.. then put in a job that does something you can monitor [15:32] Arrick: cron usually generates email on error [15:32] make a bash script to write random data to a file [15:32] now to figure out why it isnt working... where in that line to I add the echo "it works!!!" >/opt/fart.txt for testing? [15:32] Arrick: it will also log its stuff to /var/log/syslog [15:32] then run it on a cron schedule [15:33] Arrick: * * * * * date >> /tmp/crontest.txt [15:33] Arrick: try that [15:33] yea that will work [15:33] Arrick: it should run that job ever minute and log the time it was run [15:34] ok, will check in a minute, it is added [15:34] Arrick: running this as root? [15:34] sudo, yeah [15:34] i don't think arrick's cron daemon is running... his pastebin indicates that he has only the crontab editor open [15:35] Arrick: and are you adding the jobs with crontab -e, or editing stuff under /etc/cron(something)? [15:35] nvm [15:35] 1152 [15:35] crontab -e [15:35] k [15:35] don't use sudo in a crontab tho right? [15:35] its been a couple minutes now, an nojoy [15:36] it might ask for password and hang the job [15:36] maybe restart cron [15:36] sudo service cron restart [15:37] date: invalid date `/tmp/crontest.txt' [15:37] Arrick: sudo -i [15:37] Arrick: then pastebin crontab -l [15:37] just got a failure when I setup the crontext as me. [15:38] Arrick: ok - pastebin "tail -50 /var/log/syslog" [15:40] output seperated by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066933/ [15:40] I removed my username from the paste though. [15:41] Arrick: ah - try to create a script - /tmp/crontest.sh with something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066938/ and chmod +x that file, and call that file in cron instead of the command [15:43] Arrick: I've seen cron having problems with redirects [15:45] we'll know in a minute [15:45] at least you know it's firing now [15:45] if it's erroring, it's trying [15:45] it wasnt firing under root, it was firing under my user account though... I tested crontab -e from both accounts to make sure. [15:46] Arrick: to the same output file? [15:46] yeah [15:47] did you pastebin that "tail -50 /var/log/syslog" command? [15:47] make the root crontab output to a different file [15:47] or rather, its output :P [15:47] its on the bottom of the first one. [15:47] if they fire at the same time,, only one can write to the fiel [15:47] other will error [15:47] lequtix: no, linux doesn't work that way [15:48] lequtix: it queues up writes [15:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066963/ [15:48] how can two processes write to the file at the same time? [15:48] oh ok [15:48] I ran the cmd again [15:48] Sep 5 11:45:02 training sSMTP[26161]: Sent mail for root@miworksmo.org (221 2.0.0 Service closing transmission channel) uid=0 username=root outbytes=508 [15:48] Arrick: check the root mail [15:48] lol, how? [15:48] Arrick: install mutt or something [15:48] no, I mean where... [15:48] or even better - forward the root mail to your personal email account [15:49] apt-get install mutt [15:49] run mutt [15:49] as root [15:49] make sure you run an mta like postfix [15:49] (anything, really, but postfix is really easy to setup) [15:50] exim4 has a nice wizard to set it up... dpkg-reconfigure [15:50] last message april 22 [15:50] * RoyK only uses postfix and can only speak of what he likes :P [15:51] * lequtix totally understands [15:51] :D [15:51] you should try the exim on a test vm [15:51] and run the reconfigure package [15:51] maybe it's not as easy as postfix [15:52] its too bad we have to complicate his issue by configuring mail servers [15:52] lol [15:52] it already has a mail server setup, thats how I'm getting the emailed errors [15:52] ok.. [15:52] lequtix: can't really be bothered - I know postfix - I know how to configure it by hand - no point of learning exim, then ;) [15:52] nothing is showing up in the mail [15:52] so just install mutt then .. [15:52] yeah, I did [15:53] last email in was april 22 [15:53] Arrick: anyting in /var/log/mail.log ? [15:53] nope [15:53] wait [15:54] typo [15:54] are postfix or exim installed? [15:54] yep. [15:54] ok [15:54] pastebin? [15:56] last post >>>> Sep 5 11:53:03 training sSMTP[26455]: Sent mail for root@miworksmo.org (221 2.0.0 Service closing transmission channel) uid=0 username=root outbytes=508 [15:57] I wonder if the daily crontab is running [15:57] cus i think that runs as root [15:59] Collected tips/pointers on why crontab possibly does not work: http://askubuntu.com/questions/23009/reasons-why-crontab-does-not-work [16:01] Arrick: have you forwarded root's email to somewhere? [16:01] not that I know of [16:02] I did install mutt, but as I mentioned the last mail was april 22 to the root acct there. [16:03] bah... typo in the crontest.sh nam... I named it crontext.txt [16:07] Arrick: what happens if you 'echo test | mail -s test root' ? [16:07] Arrick: does that arrive in root's mailbox? [16:07] lol, mail is not currently installed. [16:07] apt-get install -y mailutils [16:08] or mailx [16:11] im testing it as my user account right quick. [16:15] ok... RoyK I just got Cron is not running. reported to me when I tried that cron job (first one) after modding permissions on the log file. [16:16] Arrick: the email sent from the local machine should arrive immedately [16:16] it does. [16:16] to root as wel? [16:16] s/wel/well/ [16:16] when it errors, yes [16:17] not sure why it isnt putting the messages in for root... [16:17] so you can't send email to root? [16:17] if I run the echo test | mail -s test root it doesnt error, but when i run mutt I cant see the msg. [16:18] perhaps try to nuke root's mailbox [16:18] never seen that happen, though [16:18] perhaps the mbox is corrupt somehow [16:19] how would I do that? [16:20] sudo -i [16:20] rm $MAIL [16:20] that'll remove the mailbox [16:21] (beyond easy recovery) [16:21] permission denied.... [16:21] perhaps it's sticky, then [16:21] > $MAIL [16:21] that should truncate it [16:22] ok, did that, ran mutt, no messages... ran the echo cmd again, no messages showed up. [16:23] check /var/log/mail.log again [16:23] pastebin the last 50 lines or so (tail -50 ...) [16:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067100/ [16:25] pastebin ~root/.forward and /etc/aliases, please [16:26] and perhaps output of 'mailq' [16:27] I just checked the cron-log.txt file it is pointing too, and it ran a minute ago [16:29] i feel bad for Arrick.. his issue went from cron to figuring out why the fuk he's not getting emaisl [16:29] :S [16:29] there must be a way of troubleshooting cron without a mail daemon [16:29] lequtix: well, we might even find out ;) [16:29] cron is working under my user account, but not under the root account. [16:30] Arrick: that's why you need email working [16:30] ok.. so we need to figure out under which circumstances cron would not run root jobs [16:30] i'm sure it's documented [16:32] cron is working, im happy... if i do too much more to this server, it will probably break the software on it, lol. [16:32] yea but there is probably a documented circumstance under which cron will NOT execute ANY root crontabs [16:32] Arrick: nothing you have done yet today (afaik) could have broken much - can you pastebin those I asked for? [16:32] its probably just a config [16:32] lequtix: famous last words ;) [16:33] lol [16:33] well if NO root jobs are firing (daily monthly etc..) [16:33] then that tells me the system is explicitly telling cron not to run those jobs [16:33] ~root/.forward says no such file or directory [16:33] that's good [16:33] what about /etc/aliases ? [16:34] postmaster: root [16:34] mailq is empty [16:34] nothing like root: something? [16:34] nope [16:34] postfix or exim? [16:34] or sendmail :P [16:34] neither is installed [16:35] apt-get install postfix [16:36] brb, dealing with a small fire here. [16:37] ouch [16:37] i'll bet his /etc/cron.d/anacron config doesn't have any root jobs [16:37] somewhere along the line there are no definitions for the root crontab [16:37] lequtix: why shouldn't it? [16:37] i dunno.. perhaps someone else modified it on him [16:38] since it runs everyone elses' jobs [16:38] and only root is excluded [16:38] that points to some kinda config [16:38] admitedly tho i'm no expert [16:38] but it's suspicious to me that only root is excluded from cron [16:38] * RoyK curses under his breath and takes a closer look at his home server [16:39] haha.. i know how u feel man [16:40] Arrick: Burning cron. [16:41] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6067149/ [16:41] this is what my /etc/cron.d/anacron file looks like [16:43] alot of pages on the web point to the root users' PATH variable when it comes to cron [16:47] i guess if it can't find sh or bash then it can't execute the scripts [16:48] but if that were the case i suppose there would be some kind of error in system.log [16:49] http://serverfault.com/questions/72237/user-cron-jobs-are-not-running-but-system-jobs-are [16:50] this is interesting.. it basically says crontab lines need to end in a newline char [16:51] maybe root's crontab was edited manually without a newline at one point [16:51] so it stopped firing [16:52] i'd rename it and create a new root crontab exactly like the old one .. but using crontab -e [16:55] RoyK .. you think there's any validity to that? [16:56] RoyK .. http://serverfault.com/questions/72237/user-cron-jobs-are-not-running-but-system-jobs-are [16:56] RoyK .. If someone edited the root crontab directly and didn't put a newline on the end perhaps it's preventing all root jobs from running..? [16:58] not sure [16:58] i guess it would help to have access to his box [16:58] i mean we have established that cron is definately working [16:58] we just need reasons why root jobs would fail to execute [16:58] Arrick: ping [16:59] so far i've read that the root's PATH variable [16:59] and editing the crontab manually cause issues [16:59] * RoyK is on the edge of beating his home server to death [17:00] lequtix: I'd strongly suggest using '-u root' to crontab -e when edting root's crontab, just to be on the safe side and ensure you're getting the one desired [17:00] RoyK: man what's up with your machine? [17:01] sarnold .. its actually Arrick that's having the issues [17:01] he's afk dealing with small fire [17:01] metaphorically i'm hoping [17:02] lequtix: aha, I figured it wasn't you, but you're doing themost helping :) hehe [17:02] lets hope so.. [17:02] his root cron jobs aren't firing but regular user cron jobs ARE [17:02] sarnold: zfs issues, or so it looks [17:02] RoyK: eeeek [17:02] i know it's irrelavent to your problem, but why did you choose zfs? [17:03] you doing some kinda cluster FS? [17:03] lequtix: I've seen people try to shove the m h dom mon dow fields into the /etc/cron.{daily,hourly,weekly}/ things before, without success... [17:06] yea that's good good poing sarnold [17:06] point [17:10] hallyn_: ping [17:19] sarnold: indeed - no big chance for me to bother to debug that shite tonight [17:19] [ 730.156529] Out of memory: Kill process 20146 (php) score 940 or sacrifice child [17:19] [ 730.157654] Killed process 20146 (php) total-vm:19335892kB, anon-rss:15531616kB, file-rss:808kB [17:19] im back [17:19] that's out of memory just after I tried to rebuild zfs, on a system with 16 gigs of RAM [17:19] Arrick: wb [17:20] RoyK: daaaamn. I heard the de-dup requires a lot of memory, but I'd have thought 16 gigs would be plenty for that. [17:20] RoyK: amd64 or pae 32 bit? [17:21] amd64 [17:21] okay [17:21] sarnold: not using dedup [17:22] RoyK: woah hey, how'd php get 16 terabytes of address space? [17:22] sarnold: I've been testing dedup in a controlled environment and found it didn't work too well without half a terabyte of RAM or so (for the data I was managing back then) [17:22] RoyK: oh, that's only 18 gigs. nevermind. hey wait how'd php get 18 gigs of address space? :) [17:22] no idea [17:23] I shut the box down - will look into it later [17:23] makes sense [17:23] good luck :) [17:23] is kinda funny that my cron job IS running, but that my cronwatcher is reporting that cron ISNT running? [17:23] thanks [17:23] Arrick: try to restart cron [17:23] restarted [17:24] Arrick: and - mail to root now works? [17:24] RoyK: (maybe get a memtest86 run going while the machine is down?) [17:24] sarnold: have tried [17:24] okay [17:24] sarnold: also, if the memory was the problem, I'd be seeing lots of random segfaults, which I'm not [17:24] negative [17:25] Arrick: that's not positive [17:25] of course, the cron jobs are set to a log file, would it still email as well? [17:26] Arrick: focus on one thing at a time [17:26] Arrick: first - make sure email works [17:26] hallyn_, you should fix lxc template for cirros to do --user-data on clone [17:26] like i did for '-t ubuntu-cloud' [17:28] Arrick: as root (or any user), try to email root to see if it works. if it doesn't, check the logs. local email is just files, so it should be trivial indeed [17:28] it doesnt throw any errors when I send it.. [17:29] Arrick: not in the mail logs either? [17:30] it shows as sent in the logs [17:30] pastebin? [17:30] !pastebin [17:30] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [17:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067312/ [17:31] hm - miworksmo.org doesn't haven an MX [17:31] lol [17:32] do you try to email root alone or root@miworksmo.org? [17:32] its internal on our exchange server [17:32] root alone [17:32] try root@localhost [17:32] smoser: uh, i'll takea look [17:32] zul: . [17:32] hallyn_: i totally forgot now [17:33] hallyn_, just something i wanted to do , but wouldn't get to. but would like for general demonstration purposes in lxc in ubuntu. [17:33] zul: ok [17:34] nope... Im not going to worry about it rightnow RoyK, I'll have to come back to it, i have a LOT of other issues, as long as cron is running I'm not worried right now... thanks for all the help [17:34] smoser: yeah but you're donig it using a clone hook, so presumably i'll need to write a new hook for cirros (maybe i can reuse the one - needto look) [17:34] hallyn_, probably have to write a new one, yes. [17:35] but same as ubuntu, just move the code that *did* that from the create to the clone. [17:35] right [17:43] hi all [17:44] evening [17:44] good localtime(); [17:44] where are you roy/ [17:44] ? [17:44] .no [17:51] lequtix: what about you? [17:51] BC, Canada [17:51] k [17:52] i don't see where u said you live [17:52]