[07:01] <moodoo> davmor2: I was suluting my work mates as a wind up as I was not at work :p
[07:51] <DJones> Morning
[07:52] <MartijnVdS> let's all congratulate daubers_ today :)
[07:52] <MartijnVdS> (assuming he didn't lie to Google twice)
[07:52] <DJones> Happy birthday daubers_
[08:14] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:19] <popey> yo
[08:24] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Be Late For Something Day! :-D
[08:24] <bigcalm> I'm always late for work
[08:27] <mungbean> lol i was uncharacteristically late for work today
[08:28] <JamesTait> We were very early for school today.
[08:28] <popey> my car broke down on the way to an appointment so I am technically late
[08:28] <popey> and caused wifey to be late for work as she rescued me
[08:28] <bigcalm> :(
[08:28] <JamesTait> It's as if you all knew already!
[08:29] <bigcalm> JamesTait: have you been late for something yet today?
[08:29] <Laney> he seems earlier than usual, if anything
[08:29] <bigcalm> Good point
[08:29] <Laney> HEATHEN
[08:30] <JamesTait> bigcalm, I haven't, yet.  I'll undoubtedly be late finishing work, though. I always am.
[08:30] <JamesTait> Or so I'm told.
[08:31] <bigcalm> Is midnight late?
[08:31] <bigcalm> I need to cut down
[08:31] <mungbean> moneysavingexpert emails have become lame since being bought out by moneycomparethesupermarket
[08:34] <popey> moneysavingexpert was sold?
[08:34] <mungbean> yes for big bucks
[08:34] <mungbean> Martin Lewis sells MoneySavingExpert.com for £87m
[08:35] <popey> gosh
[08:35] <mungbean> you only spend that kind of money when you have intentions to fleece 1m people a week
[08:35] <popey> i rarely visit, in fact i subscribed to one thread today
[08:35] <popey> I dont like MSE or MSL
[08:35] <mungbean> i just get the weekly email that used to be good
[08:36] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[08:42] <mungbean> morning brobostigon
[08:42] <brobostigon> morning mungbean
[08:42] <brobostigon> CM 10.1.3 rc2 :)
[08:43] <DJones> Is Martin Lewis any relation to Paul Lewis that presents Moneybox
[08:43] <mungbean> and huey lewis who does the news
[08:44]  * mungbean sorry
[08:44] <DJones> Just wondered because of the similar topics
[08:46] <mungbean> is moneybox an itv programme?
[08:46] <mungbean> never heard of it
[08:46] <brobostigon> radio4 :)
[08:46] <mungbean> ah lol
[08:47] <mungbean> don't really do radio
[08:47] <brobostigon> bbc radio has some good satire, :D
[08:47] <DJones> Apparently not related
[08:47] <mungbean> i do daddy jukebox. my son says daddy please can i have track 8 then track 3 and then 15 on the other cd
[08:48] <DJones> Although looking at one of Martins comments on moneysavingexpert "Nope. Though as a joke whenever I'm on Moneybox before hand I threaten to call him Dad"
[08:48] <mungbean> fortunately he's learned to use the stereo at home
[08:49] <mungbean> satire is a bit 1800s
[08:50] <mungbean> interesting how the women are dressing for the weather they want and the men dressed for the weather it was when they left the house
[08:51] <mungbean> evrybody look at this: http://iceland.adagios.org/iceland/
[08:55] <bigcalm> mungbean: why, is Iceland sinking?
[08:55] <mungbean> because your mum went there
[08:56] <brobostigon> oh dear.
[08:56] <mungbean> \o/
[08:56] <mungbean> sorry i regressed to a teengager for a moment
[08:58] <mungbean> i don't think UK could possibly know how many people are in A&E beds
[08:58] <mungbean> yay for small countries
[08:58] <jussi> seems appropriate time to post this :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U53XWlGK4hY
[08:59] <dwatkins> oh my
[08:59]  * jussi smiles
[08:59] <dwatkins> I think I'd rather watch people get fooled into thinking they were about to die in a meteor crater: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqTyPWgi5qM
[09:00] <mungbean> about to reboot one node of stupid sun cluster :S
[09:00] <mungbean> worst system ever
[09:00] <bigcalm> jussi: pmsl
[09:01] <DJones> mungbean: Thats quite easy to answer, how many A&E beds are there, every bed will probably be filled, so same figure for number of people in A&E beds (assuming there aren't any 2 to bed wards)
[09:02] <mungbean> slot-001     PCIe 0      faulted   Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Dual 4x3Gb External SAS HBA (Rev C0)
[09:02] <mungbean> :( sucks
[09:04] <dwatkins> at least it knows (assuming it's correct), mungbean
[09:04] <mungbean> gonna reboot to check
[09:04] <dwatkins> I wish more of my hardware detected failure that clearly
[09:19] <mungbean> SAS cards shouldn't just die like that
[09:20] <mungbean> scared because this server i'm rebooting is not on site and not really mine
[09:21] <funkyHat> So why risk getting the blame? Get someone else to reboot it ;P
[09:22] <mungbean> who?
[09:22] <mungbean> i'm covering for maternity leave :(
[09:23] <mungbean> its been broken since i inherited it
[09:23] <mungbean> mpt_check_task_mgt: Task 0x1 failed. I
[09:23] <mungbean> ok this is bad
[09:23] <mungbean> NOTICE: One or more I/O devices have been retired
[09:34] <dwatkins> Can you virtualise it, mungbean? It might even be possible to seamlessly move its services over to a virtual server...
[09:34] <mungbean> sun
[09:34] <mungbean> it's on support contract. i just need to figure if thats the SAS card thats being used
[09:35]  * dwatkins assumed there was some way of virtualising a native Sun machine (as opposed to Solaris x86, which we don't talk about)
[09:35] <mungbean> its part of a 2node cluster server many TB of storage
[09:35] <dwatkins> ah ok
[09:35] <mungbean> unsure what is more flaky, their software or the hardware
[09:36] <dwatkins> what kind of software? I assume you can't just install a Linux server and migrate the data, then.
[09:36] <mungbean> its basically a flashy storage device running ZFS
[09:37] <mungbean> but the sun firmware for it is shonky
[09:37] <dwatkins> I've seen worse ;)
[09:37] <mungbean> not for the moeny they paid
[09:37] <mungbean> :(
[09:37] <mungbean> MS excepted
[09:39] <dwatkins> I've seen quite the range of storage servers, from the nightmarish to the "easily administered" which actually are (Panasas)
[09:39] <mungbean> this is a 7410 storage server
[09:39] <dwatkins> then again, when each storage blade has its own OS running on it, you expect it to be doing a lot
[09:39] <mungbean> nice UI but spontaneous reboots if you fart near it
[09:39] <dwatkins> ah yes, SGI made something fairly similar
[09:40] <dwatkins> we had one customer called up asking how to fix their storage server, as a light had gone amber on it, and no-one who knew how to log in to it had worked for the company for about 8 years ;)
[09:40] <dwatkins> I hope they blew air into it to clear the dust out every so often (although in a good server room, that shouldn't be an issue, I guess - probably something to do with static and filtered/clean air)
[09:55] <diddledan> I need chocolate
[09:55] <diddledan> chocolate always helps the day go faster
[09:56] <mungbean> has lots in his drawer
[09:56] <diddledan> I totally need one of those
[09:57] <mungbean> twirl bites or cheapo value sainsburys choc
[09:57] <mungbean> and choccy cookies
[10:11] <dvrr> Hiiii
[10:14] <popey> helloooo
[10:15] <bigcalm> Waaaaaaaant sleeeeeeeeep
[10:15] <diddledan> ergh, my old broadband provider wants a signed letter asking for termination of my account. but my printer won't work so I can't sign a printout
[10:18] <mungbean> i don't get it. man comes to give quote for fence. no quote received, now not answering calls
[10:18] <mungbean> is business really that good?
[10:18] <mungbean> or are fence people just slack about plying their trade?
[10:19] <directhex> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBFgsFeZCgU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[10:20] <dvrr> popey: 10 days back  i  installed ubuntu 12.10  it's working fine but  / partation usage 100 % space
[10:21] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:21] <popey> dvrr: yes, i recall
[10:21] <mungbean> there's others besides popey who can help in here. (popey isn't paid to support this chan)
[10:22] <popey> (neither is anyone else)
[10:22] <dvrr> partation size / 130gb i give
[10:23] <popey> I would run this...
[10:24] <popey> sudo du -xB M --max-depth=2 / | sort -rn | head -n 15
[10:24] <popey> which will give you a list of the top 15 directories eating space
[10:26] <dvrr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6065976/  open this  df -h
[10:26] <mungbean> hmm
[10:27] <directhex> mungbean, hire a pole. poles do their jobs. it's the british you need to be wary of
[10:27] <mungbean> ls -la /
[10:27] <mungbean> directhex: poles in britain, yeah
[10:27] <mungbean> i bet there's loads of lazy poles in poland too
[10:28] <directhex> in fairness my plumber is british and good
[10:28] <diddledan> poles just stand around all day holding signs up afaict
[10:29] <mungbean> it seems to be par for the course that many of these people are terrible at managing customers
[10:30] <popey> dvrr: did you see what I suggested?
[10:30] <dvrr> popey:  y / partation is full 100%  i did't copy  any data
[10:31] <popey> 11:23:20 < popey> I would run this...
[10:31] <popey> 11:24:03 < popey> sudo du -xB M --max-depth=2 / | sort -rn | head -n 15
[10:31] <popey> 11:24:12 < popey> which will give you a list of the top 15 directories eating space
[10:31] <popey> dvrr: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[10:31] <mungbean> .........................\o/
[10:32] <mungbean> who was i talking to about DS games the other day? wondered if COD4 was any good on DS
[10:33] <dvrr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066007/
[10:33] <popey> DING DING DING
[10:33] <popey> 134942M /root/oldga2
[10:33] <popey> thats where your space went dvrr
[10:34] <mungbean> there's also a nice gui for this too, what's it called?
[10:34] <popey> i was assuming there was a gui problem
[10:34] <popey> baobab
[10:34] <popey> "Disk Usage Analyser"
[10:34] <dvrr> i will check  oldga2
[10:34] <dvrr> data
[10:35] <mungbean> your /home is q small too
[10:35] <mungbean> compared to the other dirs
[10:35] <directhex> mungbean, stick to 2D on the DS
[10:35] <mungbean> directhex: i have a DSI xl
[10:35] <bigcalm> I just found that my home directory is holding 61GB of fun. Wonder if I should do something about that
[10:36] <popey> my son stole my ds
[10:36] <directhex> mungbean, which has the same CPU as the regular DS, but can run download-only DSi titles at a higher clock speed
[10:36] <directhex> mungbean, the GPU is still made of cheese and useless for 3D
[10:36] <mungbean> but is call of duty 4 any good on it?
[10:36] <directhex> http://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/call-of-duty-4-modern-warfare - user reviews seem pretty low
[10:37] <dvrr> ya i removed  oldga2 now usage 5% only
[10:37] <bigcalm> 4G spotify cache, wow
[10:37] <brobostigon> question, is there a way to lockdown android abit, so when my gf's son gets hold of my tablet, i can limit what he can break. ?
[10:37] <popey> you can have multi users on android
[10:37] <popey> thats what I do
[10:37] <mungbean> from which version popey
[10:37] <popey> 4.something
[10:38] <brobostigon> popey: not actually tried that, i have 4.3 here, so it should work fine.
[10:38] <popey> 4.3 maybe?
[10:38] <popey> my nexus 7 has 4 profiles, one for each of us
[10:38] <mungbean> directhex: of the user reviews, most were ok , but only 13 reviews so the troll who said 1 skewed it
[10:38] <popey> that way the kids can install their apps and I dont have to see them
[10:38] <brobostigon> i shall have to try it.
[10:38] <popey> and they can keep their own high scores etc
[10:38] <popey> you shall
[10:38] <dvrr> oldga2   file size  600m   y it is  usage 100%
[10:39] <dvrr> only 1 file is there
[10:39] <popey> well there's something in there
[10:39] <mungbean> what command are you typing
[10:39] <directhex> brobostigon, that's actually a selling feature of WP8 - "kid's corner" lets you define a subset of apps with a private profile, and a different pin number, so you can hand locked phone to child, and they can unlock/play with no risk to your stuff
[10:39] <dvrr> no
[10:39] <bigcalm> dvrr: sudo ls -lha /root/oldga2
[10:39] <mungbean> dvrr what command are you typing
[10:40] <popey> sudo du -hs /root/oldga2
[10:40] <mungbean> i wish ds save games could be locked/backed
[10:40] <brobostigon> directhex: wow, did not know that, research required.
[10:40] <mungbean> my son onccasionally would delete all save games of mario 64ds
[10:40] <popey> use an r4 or something, backup the saves to your pc
[10:40] <mungbean> "why did you do that?" "i don't know"
[10:41] <mungbean> hmm i have an r4
[10:41] <mungbean> but you would have to backup the game
[10:41] <mungbean> with an orig game its not v possible to backup the save games
[10:41] <dvrr> i removed  oldga2 file
[10:42] <popey> http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?12405-A-tool-to-backup-HG-SS-saves mungbean
[10:43] <popey> dunno if that works
[10:43] <mungbean> cheers i might revisit this then
[10:44] <mungbean> first i have gta to play :D
[10:44] <ali1234> what does HG/SS mean?
[10:44] <mungbean> saved state i presume
[10:44] <mungbean> heart gold and soul silver
[10:45] <mungbean> pokemon games
[10:45] <mungbean> i've probably lost the r4 now :(
[10:46] <mungbean> This tool allows you to backup and restore saves from commercial Nintendo handheld game cartridges.
[10:46] <mungbean> Requirements: - A DLDI-capable Flash Card - A Nintendo DS Phat/Lite. DSi and 3DS are not supported!
[10:46] <popey> bummer
[10:46] <mungbean> find a child with a DS...profit
[10:47] <mungbean> my wife almost cried when all the stars she'd collected were wiped
[10:47] <mungbean> cos she had to play thorugh again and unlock stuff for the munchkin
[10:49] <mungbean> http://clippingmagic.com/  Instantly Remove The Background From Your Images
[10:51] <DJones> Listening to a programme about a member of the INternational Space Orchestra, am most disappointed to find that they don't perform in space
[10:52] <bigcalm> Yet?
[10:52] <DJones> True, maybe in future
[10:53] <mungbean> wasn't there an international colouring contest on the moon?
[10:53] <mungbean> sofia pamela?
[10:53] <mungbean> lucia pamela
[10:54] <mungbean> http://www.intoouterspace.com/
[10:55] <bigcalm> My android tv stick still hasn't arrived. Starting to wonder if it'll ever get here. Just checked the Amazon market seller's profile, they are in HK
[10:56] <bigcalm> Doh
[10:56]  * funkyHat has been meaning to order one of those
[10:56] <funkyHat> bigcalm: which one did you go for?
[10:56] <bigcalm> funkyHat: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B18K4T2
[10:56] <mungbean> mk802 are generally ok
[10:57] <bigcalm> funkyHat: I'll let you know if it's any good, if it ever gets here
[10:57] <mungbean> i need a telly that works with it tho
[10:57] <funkyHat> bigcalm: did you go for a remote thingy for it too?
[10:57] <diddledan> do any android sticks work with old tellies that don't do hd?
[10:57] <bigcalm> funkyHat: not yet. Might do
[10:58] <bigcalm> diddledan: you need HDMI and a USB port (for power)
[10:58] <mungbean> diddledan: dunno, but would prob look a bit nasty
[10:58] <mungbean> i have spare vga monitors at home too
[10:58] <diddledan> I'm thinking purely for video purposes
[10:58] <mungbean> and a composite->vga convertor box
[11:00] <brobostigon> cool, just got a bbc iplayer android update, that allows for official downloading of progs.
[11:00] <mungbean> how long for?
[11:00] <brobostigon> 30days i think still applies.
[11:00] <mungbean> mehhhhhhh
[11:00] <brobostigon> will still use get-iplayer, :)
[11:01] <mungbean> mind you, i generally delete after i watch stuff
[11:01] <mungbean> so could be useful on the tablet
[11:01] <mungbean> except needing 50 different apps to watch all the channels is a pain, and youtube tends to help that
[11:04] <mungbean> has anyone looked at docker?
[11:05] <DJones> brobostigon: Thanks for the heads up on iplayer, even better it works with android 4.3
[11:06] <brobostigon> DJones: yep :), youre welcome.
[11:07] <mungbean> https://www.docker.io/
[11:07] <mungbean> Docker is an open-source project to easily create lightweight, portable, self-sufficient containers from any application. The same container that a developer builds and tests on a laptop can run at scale, in production, on VMs, bare metal, OpenStack clusters, public clouds and more.
[11:07] <popey> ali1234: oddly G+ won't let me +1 your bitcoin comment
[11:07] <popey> or indeed any comment on that post
[11:07] <directhex> insert bitcoins to continue
[11:08] <ali1234> I heard G+ also buries any post where you mention bitcoins
[11:08] <mungbean> :-|
[11:08] <mungbean> conspiracy theory
[11:08] <davmor2> popey: you sure you are logged in :D  and is it a community post if so you have to join the community it has a little popup that might be being blocked
[11:09] <ali1234> what i'm really confused about is this: http://deals.ebay.com/blog/whats-the-deal-with-bitcoins-anyway/
[11:09] <popey> davmor2: its my post
[11:09] <mungbean> popey: i tried +1 somebodys comment, it said ther's a problem
[11:09] <popey> it does the +1 then errors and rolls it back
[11:09] <davmor2> popey: oh you stand no chance then :)
[11:10] <popey> yet I can leave a comment
[11:10] <popey> https://plus.google.com/u/0/109365858706205035322/posts/Pd7Srhk9WxY
[11:10] <davmor2> popey: I've never had that happen, I have had it no display a popup for a community as the popup blocker stopped it :)
[11:12] <mungbean> i get a #503 trying to +1 someone
[11:12] <bigcalm> Ditto
[11:12] <mungbean> spookily that person just endorsed me out fo the blue on linkedin
[11:12] <mungbean> just after i tried to click :P
[11:12] <mungbean> mungbean was endorsed for g+
[11:13] <popey> ah good, not just me then
[11:13] <davmor2> popey: same here
[11:14] <davmor2> popey: google hates you ;)
[11:14] <popey> join the club
[11:15] <mungbean> http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/09/03/have-the-bbc-just-scheduled-a-missing-episode-of-dads-army/
[11:15] <davmor2> popey: what you have lots of social media companies hating you then?
[11:19] <ali1234> +1 broken for everyone everywhere by the looks of it
[11:19] <mungbean> is this ubuntu phone? looks horrific photo http://i.imgur.com/pHiQeUo.png
[11:19] <popey> yup
[11:20] <popey> not a great choice of background there
[11:21] <mungbean> when did that sheppey crash happen?
[11:22] <mungbean> thats unbelievable
[11:22] <mungbean> everybody clearly goign too fast
[11:22] <bigcalm> ?
[11:22] <mungbean> http://uk.news.yahoo.com/sheppey-car-crash-100-vehicles-kent-bridge-motorists-drivers-collision-094450208.html#tc7mgAp
[11:23] <bigcalm> Ok
[11:23] <gordonjcp> too fast for the conditions...
[11:23] <mungbean> visibiltiy down to 20yds and everybody flying along
[11:25] <mungbean> so many cars they are having to write numbers on them
[11:25] <mungbean> must be so scary see a lorry possibly squeezing you against a wall
[11:28] <popey> too fast / too close
[11:28] <mungbean> alan hansen paid £40k per match of the day show
[11:28] <popey> first day of kids back to school.. guess some people forgot how to drive over thesummer
[11:28] <popey> http://imgur.com/gallery/SbS78Sh czajkowski
[11:28] <mungbean> why are tv people vilified like bankers?
[11:29] <mungbean> ^people^people not
[11:29] <bigcalm> popey: "trying"
[11:29] <popey> tv people?
[11:29] <mungbean> BBC presenters namely
[11:35] <davmor2> popey: you saying czajkowski is a cute little dog, or was it more that she likes pugs and you happened upon that image?
[11:36] <popey> yes
[11:38] <davmor2> popey: I like a man that lives on the edge :D  Oh and lives in hitting range of czajkowski :D
[11:41] <davmor2> mungbean: to be honest I've seen three lorries consentena a car before now and the woman in the car not make it so I would just be gobsmacked at being alive to be honest
[11:49] <ali1234> hmm so i have to conclude that the ebay blog has been hacked
[11:49] <ali1234> not surprising really, it's wordpress after all
[11:51] <popey> looks okay here
[11:52] <ali1234> http://deals.ebay.com/blog/whats-the-deal-with-bitcoins-anyway/
[11:52] <diddledan> why would that indicate hackage?
[11:52] <popey> oh, thats not the blog i was reading
[11:52] <popey> http://blog.ebay.com/
[11:53] <ali1234> diddledan: well first of all nearly that whole page is inside an iframe that leads to a different domain
[11:53] <ali1234> secondly it's not linked from anywhere else at all that i can see
[11:53] <diddledan> well that _would_ indicate it then
[11:53] <czajkowski> popey: :)
[11:54] <ali1234> thirdly it says "what do you think?" but botht he video and the page have comments off (the rest of the blog allows comments)
[11:54] <Azelphur> https://www.dropbox.com/s/unxdto1fet81zkb/2013-09-05%2011.16.43.jpg bought and paid for with bitcoins \o/
[11:54] <ali1234> fourthly video uploaded by a unknown user with no other videos
[11:54] <Azelphur> who needs £ now ;)
[11:54] <ali1234> and fifth the blog is wordpress so it's probably riddled with vulnerabilities
[11:55] <ali1234> diddledan: how's that?
[11:55] <diddledan> very convincing :-)
[11:55] <diddledan> I can't say I looked any deeper than the content
[11:55] <ali1234> weirdly though there is this: http://deals.ebay.com/blog/your-last-minute-thanksgiving-feast-for-10-all-for-less-than-75/
[11:56] <ali1234> the image on that page is hosted on the same external domain as the bitcoin page
[11:56] <ali1234> however, that could also have been done by the hacker in order to try to make the bitcoin page look more credible
[11:59] <ali1234> Azelphur: how did that work then?
[12:00] <Azelphur> ali1234: http://cryptodechange.com :)
[12:00] <ali1234> what is it?
[12:03] <ali1234> that site has a distinct lack of information like where they delivery to and so on
[12:03] <Azelphur> ali1234: it's a tesco frontend
[12:03] <Azelphur> so, pretty much everywhere
[12:03] <ali1234> meaning what?
[12:04] <Azelphur> meaning they deliver to anywhere that tesco delivers to
[12:04] <ali1234> so you can buy anything from tescos?
[12:05] <Azelphur> yup
[12:05] <ali1234> how much does it cost for delivery?
[12:07] <Azelphur> £5
[12:07] <ali1234> £5
[12:07] <ali1234> not bad
[12:09] <Azelphur> indeed
[12:09] <Azelphur> ali1234: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2013/Sep/2013-09-04-213233_982x1011_scrot.png
[12:15] <bigcalm> Woop! Putting mysqld into supervisor has paid off. Danm thing fell over 4 hours ago, supervisor restart it, my websites continue to work :)
[12:15] <diddledan> bigcalm: doesn't upstart do that for you?
[12:16] <bigcalm> diddledan: I've yet to see that happen
[12:17] <bigcalm> This is the only server I have ever had mysqld fall over on a regular basis. Lots of trying to fix it (months on and off), just going with what works - supervisor
[12:26] <bigcalm> popey: good job that laptop video used dubstep for the music. Meant that I wasn't jarred out of my current Spotify playlist :)
[12:30] <mgdm> bigcalm: does the error log tell you anything about why it died? OOM perhaps?
[12:30] <bigcalm> mgdm: nope
[12:30] <mgdm> bigcalm: weird
[12:30] <bigcalm> mgdm: the error log is always empty
[12:33] <bigcalm> mgdm: this is in syslog though
[12:33] <bigcalm> Sep  5 09:08:54 banana kernel: Out of memory: Kill process 16090 (mysqld) score 90 or sacrifice child
[12:33] <bigcalm> Sep  5 09:08:54 banana kernel: Killed process 16090 (mysqld) total-vm:325844kB, anon-rss:26944kB, file-rss:0kB
[12:33] <diddledan> sounds like you ran out of memory
[12:33] <Azelphur> hah, banana kernel.
[12:34] <diddledan> it's only coincidence that it killed mysqld
[12:34] <bigcalm> Oooo, looking higher up I can see:
[12:34] <bigcalm> Sep  5 09:08:54 banana kernel: nginx invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0, oom_adj=0, oom_score_adj=0
[12:34] <bigcalm> diddledan: it's always mysqld that gets killed
[12:34] <bigcalm> Azelphur: I was amused by that as well :)
[12:34] <diddledan> bigcalm: on OOM the kernel will kill any process that tries to allocate more memory
[12:36] <diddledan> so you need to work out what's eating up all your goats
[12:37] <bigcalm> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066310/
[12:37] <diddledan> wolf mayhaps?
[12:37] <bigcalm> What's wolf?
[12:37] <diddledan> or an ogre?
[12:37] <diddledan> s/goats/rams/ >.<
[12:37] <bigcalm> Heh
[12:37] <mungbean> mysqltop
[12:37] <diddledan> it's a furry creature with big teef
[12:37] <bigcalm> :P
[12:38] <bigcalm> mungbean: ?
[12:39] <mungbean> there's a few top commands for mysql that might help
[12:39] <Azelphur> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2412099/Sheppey-crash-100-vehicles-pile-misty-conditions-Kent.html destroy all the cars \o/
[12:39] <mgdm> bigcalm: http://hackmysql.com/mysqlreport is quite simple to parse
[12:40] <mgdm> Azelphur: cheering on a massive accident, where people probably got injured? Tasteless, much?
[12:40] <diddledan> mgdm: only 200 got injured
[12:41] <mungbean> the quote was "crashing continued for 10 mins"
[12:41] <Azelphur> mgdm: mostly minor injuries, and poking fun at terrible things is a human norm
[12:41] <DJones> diddledan: They chjanged that and reduced it to only 8 injured last time I saw
[12:41] <mungbean> even if for 1 minute is horrific
[12:42] <Azelphur> mgdm: plus, apparently it was all down to poor driving, so my sympathy is low
[12:42] <mungbean> my dad was onthe motorway and there was a crash. he put on his brakes and avoided collision, however a coach turned on its side and he could see it in his mirrors, crushing cars, 1...2...3....getting closer...just stopped in time
[12:42] <bigcalm> mgdm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066330/ is very nice to look at, but I don't know what I'm looking for :)
[12:43] <mgdm> Azelphur: none of that makes any difference, IMO
[12:43]  * Azelphur shrugs
[12:43] <diddledan> has this been photoshopped, or is there really a new car that can travel underground? http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/05/article-2412099-1BA26A45000005DC-946_964x685.jpg
[12:43] <ali1234> diddledan: firemen cut the froof off
[12:43] <bigcalm> diddledan: again tasteless
[12:44] <mgdm> bigcalm: maybe drop the innodb_buffer_pool_size - lines 78 and 79 imply you can fit most of your data in 27MB of RAM, whereas you have 128MB set for it - try 32?
[12:44] <bigcalm> Okay, ya
[12:44] <bigcalm> ta
[12:44] <mgdm> bigcalm: SELECT * FROM disclaimer;
[12:44] <bigcalm> Hehe
[12:47] <mungbean> anyone looking for job in london atm?
[12:47]  * bigcalm scratches his head. Why can't I find innodb_buffer_pool_size in any config files?
[12:47] <mungbean> i suppose this chan aint the best as we only have about 30 regulars , the rest are lurkers
[12:47] <popey> linuxjobs list?
[12:48] <mgdm> bigcalm: it needs to go under [mysqld] in /etc/my.cnf, it might not already be there
[12:48] <mungbean> yeah, tried that before, very little response except for a weirdo
[12:48] <mgdm> bigcalm: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/innodb-parameters.html
[12:48] <mungbean> *may not be weird
[12:49] <diddledan> mungbean: was the weirdo me?
[12:49] <diddledan> <-- veery weird
[12:49] <bigcalm> Ah, just found it in foo_my.cnf
[12:50] <mungbean> nope, was a few yrs ago
[12:50] <diddledan> foo?
[12:50] <bigcalm> Yep, foo
[12:50] <mungbean> i can't unsee that numa numa vids you showed me diddledan
[12:50] <diddledan> lol, I thought everyone had seen that
[12:50] <mungbean> 50M
[12:50] <mungbean> plus one
[12:51] <mungbean> its like the star wars kid
[12:51] <mungbean> http://mashable.com/2013/05/10/star-wars-kid-interview-cyberbullying/
[12:55] <mgdm> bigcalm: is the OOMing server running WP by any chance?
[12:55] <bigcalm> Finally got it down to be 32MB. I'm going to keep mysqld in supervisor for a while though
[12:55] <popey> heh
[12:55] <bigcalm> mgdm: yes
[12:55] <popey> Boom!
[12:55] <popey> That's like the 6th machine I've heard OOM with wordpress
[12:55] <bigcalm> I've never had a problem with it before
[12:55] <mgdm> bigcalm: you're the second person in two days I've given that advice to (the other was an under-RAMed VM, with an unconfigured MySQL, and no static cache plugins in WP)
[12:56] <bigcalm> One difference is that my father is using a CRM plugin for his WP site on my server
[12:56] <mgdm> get WP-SuperCache or whatever it is on there
[12:56] <mgdm> and APC
[12:56]  * bigcalm loops
[12:56] <popey> and switch from apache to lighttpd
[12:56] <popey> I have had exactly zero OOMs since I switched from apache to lighttpd
[12:57] <bigcalm> php-apc is already installed
[12:57] <mgdm> popey: I think he's on nginx
[12:57] <bigcalm> mgdm: nope, only gitlab is on nginx
[12:57] <mgdm> ah
[12:57] <bigcalm> mgdm: everything else is using Apache
[12:57] <mgdm> then make nginx do WP too :-)
[12:57] <bigcalm> Ug
[12:58] <bigcalm> http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-super-cache/installation/ - not a install and forget kind of plugin :)
[12:58] <bigcalm> I'll poke it another time
[12:59] <mgdm> WP is not an install and forget kind of software
[13:00] <bigcalm> It is for my dad, as I have to manage it
[13:01] <popey> wordpress.com is -> that way
[13:02] <bigcalm> Hehe
[13:02] <bigcalm> Atempting
[13:02] <bigcalm> -A
[13:04] <davmor2> bigcalm: falls off the edge of the earth following popey 's directions
[13:24] <bigcalm> joker.com finally allow payments by PayPal. That makes my life a lot easier
[13:25] <bigcalm> Saves me from having to go down stairs for my wallet
[13:49] <DJones> A bit offtopic, but can anybody recommend an audiobook player for android
[13:50] <DJones> Looking at Smart Audiobook player or Audible
[14:34] <mungbean> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/04/unicode_of_death_crash/
[14:38] <mungbean> i'd love to see a million applefans cry out in anguish as a unicode gets delivered over twitter and crashes their idevice
[14:40] <mungbean> popey: which ios you on?
[14:41] <popey> 6.something on iphone, 5.something on ipad
[14:41] <mungbean> you wanna crash your device?
[14:42] <directhex> doesn't crash device, crashes offending app
[14:42] <mungbean> oh , shame
[14:42] <mungbean> https://twitter.com/codeblue87/status/372954308397920256
[14:42] <directhex> if offending app is low level enough, that's fine
[14:42] <mungbean> ^^ see what that does
[14:42] <popey> 6.1.3
[14:42] <directhex> but e.g. on twitter it just crashes twitter client
[14:43] <DJones> I've lost count of the number of klines I've seen on freenode for people posting the exploit
[14:43] <directhex> even though it's funny
[14:44] <mungbean> i've seen it in comments but didnt' realise what it was till now
[14:44] <mungbean> probably on omgubuntu
[14:44] <mungbean> kids eh
[14:44] <directhex> there was one a while ago, you typed something like BEGINBOTSERVER on irc and anyone with one brand of antivirus would be disconnected
[14:44] <Seeker`> apparently the guy that designed the walkie talkie building also designed http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/29/las_vegas_death_ray/
[14:44] <Seeker`> start key logger too
[14:44] <directhex> Seeker`, that was it
[14:46] <popey> heh, yeah, that crashes chrome here
[14:46] <directhex> http://labs.phurix.net/articles/startkeylogger
[14:56]  * Seeker` wonders how many clients let you join #20,000 now
[15:00] <directhex> comma isn't valid in irc rfc, is it?
[15:00] <Seeker`> yes
[15:00] <Seeker`> comma seperated list of channels
[15:06] <dwatkins> 16:05 -%- Channel #000 created Thu Jan 28 17:23:00 2010
[15:06] <Seeker`> ah
[15:06] <Seeker`> used to be that for a lot of clients, #20,000 would mkae you part all channels
[15:06] <dwatkins> I'm using irssi
[15:06] <dwatkins> I'm glad it didn't, although I do have my config saved.
[15:07] <dwatkins> I'm pretty sure restarting irssi would bring back most channels for me that I care to be in.
[15:09] <Seeker`> I figure that if i lose channels and can't remember them I probably don't need to be there :P
[15:09] <popey> i remember when jono joined #asdf and got klined instantly
[15:10] <popey> dunno which network that was
[15:17] <mungbean> whats adfs?
[15:17] <mungbean> asdf
[15:19] <mungbean> nobody there :(
[15:19] <Laney> NO
[15:19] <mungbean> jono (n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #boycottnovel
[15:20] <DJones> It obviously wasn't freenode that jono get klined from then, given that mungbean must have joined it & didn't get klined
[15:20] <mungbean> it was an empty chan
[15:20] <Seeker`> DJones: or they removed the kline
[15:20] <DJones> Seeker`: Could be, I'm sure theres still some channels floating round that do that
[15:21] <davmor2> mungbean: can't of been empty or you wouldn't of seen the join notice :P
[15:21] <mungbean> schordingers chan
[15:21] <mungbean> can i just pick a chan of my choosing and op it if noone else is there?
[15:21] <mungbean> #badgersarethebest
[15:21] <popey> you will auto op if it doesnt exist
[15:22] <diddledan> unless it's registered with chanserv
[15:22] <mungbean> wondered if freenode was as anarchic as ircnet,say
[15:22] <DJones> mungbean: http://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/
[15:22] <dwatkins> there's always blitzed...
[15:27] <popey> \o/ blitzed
[15:27] <popey> still limping along
[15:27] <dwatkins> I'm on there all the time
[15:27] <dwatkins> never had any problems with it
[15:28] <popey> its got way fewer servers than it used to
[15:29] <mungbean> argh i hate doing that
[15:30] <bigcalm> Did you join 0 ?
[15:30] <mungbean> accidentally /wc then accidentally quit irssi
[15:30] <bigcalm> /wc?
[15:31] <mungbean> its a pain sinec my config isn't exactly seamless
[15:31] <DJones> window close
[15:31] <bigcalm> Ah
[15:31] <mungbean> should just run irssi and it connects to all my nets
[15:31] <mungbean> but no
[15:34] <dwatkins> mungbean: just join them all and do a /save
[15:34] <dwatkins> iirc that's how irssi does it
[15:34] <dwatkins> ymmv, brbbbq
[15:36] <mungbean> oh sweet.
[15:36] <mungbean> TIL
[15:36] <dwatkins> woot
[15:36] <mungbean> i connect to a bouncer on ircnet so may not work correctly but hey
[15:36] <dwatkins> I use linux little enough, I'm normally the one doing the learning around here
[15:37] <dwatkins> ah ok, you can include sequential commands in the config if necessary
[15:37] <dwatkins> e.g. /msg nickserv identify password
[15:38] <mungbean> hmm shoulda backed up my old config
[15:39] <dwatkins> directhex: reading your link, the best part is that the guy from the Washington Post expected a reply at 3:30am local time for the blogger, clearly didn't do his research very well
[15:39] <dwatkins> then again, there are plenty of people around on #ubuntu-offtopic when I get in to work in the morning who may well be in the US, East or West.
[15:40] <mungbean> whats the usual topic in offtopic?
[15:41] <dwatkins> the actual topic, or what's actually discussed?
[15:41] <mungbean> the latter
[15:41] <dwatkins> can be pretty much anything
[15:41] <dwatkins> 08:29 < SunStar> so yeah uh... dunno. my AR928 works great
[15:42] <dwatkins> random hardware, custom kernels, why people who just joined #ubuntu a few hours ago are being told to shut up ;)
[15:43] <mungbean> ok, not politics then...good
[15:43] <dwatkins> I think that's not allowed
[15:43] <mungbean> nothing worse than US politics
[15:43] <dwatkins> see the response from its bot in DM:
[15:43] <dwatkins> 16:43 <dwatkins> !politics
[15:43] <dwatkins> 16:43 <ubottu> Please take political discussion to ##politics. Thank you!
[15:43] <dwatkins> there's also !o4o, which is much longer
[15:59] <mungbean> "n the development of DES, NSA convinced IBM that a reduced key size was sufficient; indirectly assisted in the development of the S-box structures; and certified that the final DES algorithm was, to the best of their knowledge, free from any statistical or mathematical weakness"
[15:59] <mungbean> we all know how that turned out
[16:00] <funkyHat> "convinced" heh
[16:01] <funkyHat> I also like "indirectly assisted"
[16:01] <mungbean> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Encryption_Standard
[16:01] <mungbean> more details
[16:01] <mungbean> NSA worked closely with IBM to strengthen the algorithm against all except brute force attacks and to strengthen substitution tables, called S-boxes. Conversely, NSA tried to convince IBM to reduce the length of the key from 64 to 48 bits. Ultimately they compromised on a 56-bit ke
[16:02] <dwatkins> I always wondered why it wasn't a power of 2
[16:02] <mungbean> i seem to remember we needed permission to run a 3DES VPN to our NY office
[16:13] <xnox> OMG! Celine Dion can pull off powerful hits! http://youtu.be/4f5KuRXtjeE
[16:13] <xnox> New single!
[16:14] <bigcalm> Bloody auto tune. _THE_ worst thing ever created by man
[16:14] <dwatkins> bigcalm: I thought everyone used it, though
[16:14] <MartijnVdS> almost everyone
[16:15] <bigcalm> Hate hate hate
[16:44] <xnox> adele as well
[16:44] <xnox> ?
[16:44] <MartijnVdS> A dell
[16:47] <Seeker`> $£%^£$%&"$%&" telemarketers
[16:47] <Seeker`> "I'd like to speak to you about your recent car accident"
[16:48] <zleap> lol
[16:48] <MartijnVdS> Seeker`: "Which one? I've had several"
[16:49] <zleap> is that related to the massiver pile up this morning
[16:49] <Seeker`> MartijnVdS: third such call in 3 days. Next time I'm going to go with "wow, it must have been a bad one, I can't even remember having a car accident. I guess that means I've got amnesia"
[16:57] <diddledan> I wondered why the telemarketer wouldn't sell me any home improvements for the tent I told her I live in
[16:58] <diddledan> when someone phones and asks for the phone bill payer, tell them it's you. when they ask which provider you're with, tell them you don't have a phone. that one confuses them somewhat
[16:59] <Seeker`> she told me she got my number from when I last renewed my car insurance online
[16:59] <Seeker`> I've never had car insurance in my name
[17:00] <diddledan> does that mean you drive illegally? :-p
[17:00] <Seeker`> no, just that I'm named on someone elses insurance
[17:00] <diddledan> hehe
[17:13] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm, popey: If you're looking for music: Andy Cato - Times & Places
[17:14] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm, popey: (assuming you both liked Akufen - My Way)
[17:15] <popey> where is exobuzz when you need him
[17:15] <MartijnVdS> exobuzz?
[17:15] <exobuzz> hello ?
[17:15] <popey> yay
[17:15] <popey> pm
[17:18] <xnox> czajkowski: I cannot thank you more for your CC contributions!
[17:18] <xnox> czajkowski: it's a true blessing!
[17:19] <davmor2> xnox: Don't do that czajkowski has to get her head through doorways now without damaging them
[17:20] <davmor2> :D
[17:21] <czajkowski> :p
[17:22] <davmor2> czajkowski: It's a service to get you through doorways, and your welcome ;)
[18:14] <mR0rI0n> hello
[18:14] <daftykins> hi
[18:16] <mR0rI0n> can you possibly help me with a kernel issue
[18:17] <daftykins> ask away
[18:17] <mR0rI0n> how would i update a kernel from 3.0 to 3.1
[18:18] <daftykins> what are you running, version wise and is it fully updated + upgraded?
[18:18] <mR0rI0n> ubuntu and as far as i know it is not
[18:19] <mR0rI0n> the auto update has failed to pop up where would i look to find updates
[18:19] <daftykins> which version of ubuntu?
[18:19] <mR0rI0n> good question
[18:19] <daftykins> are you in it now?
[18:19] <mR0rI0n> have i mentioned im new to linux
[18:19] <mR0rI0n> yes
[18:20] <daftykins> ok if you'd like to find and run the terminal application
[18:20] <daftykins> type in this command: "cat /etc/issue"
[18:20] <daftykins> that should report which version you have
[18:21] <mR0rI0n> says no such file in directory
[18:21] <diddledan> without quotes
[18:22] <mR0rI0n> i didnt use the quotes
[18:22] <diddledan> ok, in that case then.. eek
[18:22] <popey> lsb_release -a
[18:22] <daftykins> ok try "cat /etc/lsb-release" instead
[18:22] <popey> that also tells you what version
[18:22] <daftykins> or what popey said
[18:23] <diddledan> lsb_release doesn't usually tell me anything helpful - I think I used it with something like -r tho
[18:23] <daftykins> ;)
[18:23] <popey> 19:22:24 < popey> lsb_release -a
[18:23] <mR0rI0n> it says 13.4
[18:23] <popey> diddledan: I said -a for a reason ☻
[18:23] <daftykins> ok, latest version then
[18:23] <mR0rI0n> 13.04
[18:23] <daftykins> mR0rI0n: what happens when you try to run the update manager?
[18:23] <popey> mR0rI0n: yay, so you are probably up to date
[18:24] <popey> mR0rI0n: what if you run "uname -a"
[18:24] <popey> it will tell you what kernel version you're running
[18:24] <mR0rI0n> ok then would there be another reason my comptuer goes into panic mode
[18:24] <popey> define panic mode?
[18:25] <mR0rI0n> 3.8.0-25-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:47:30 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:25] <mR0rI0n> computer fails to do anything and is locked in  terminal
[18:26] <popey> what video card do you have?
[18:26] <mR0rI0n> i take it the  3.8.0 is the kernel...and what ever is in ths shitty netbook
[18:27] <diddledan> intel no doubt
[18:28] <mR0rI0n> its a hp mini netbook 110 1000 so probably
[18:28] <diddledan> have you ever had graphics operating such as during the install?
[18:28] <mR0rI0n> what do you mean by graphics operating
[18:29] <diddledan> pretty pictures instead of the terminal
[18:29] <popey> hang on. what state is it in now?
[18:29] <mR0rI0n> i use youtube alot
[18:29] <popey> right. so you have a graphical desktop on the screen?>
[18:29] <popey> but sometimes it locks up?
[18:29] <mR0rI0n> yes i have a graphical desktop on the screen
[18:30] <diddledan> oh I must have misread then
[18:30] <mR0rI0n> yes it locks up occasionlly
[18:30] <ali1234> do you have a nvidia card?
[18:30] <popey> unlikely in a netbook
[18:30] <mR0rI0n> no
[18:30] <MartijnVdS> intel?
[18:30] <mR0rI0n> yes
[18:30] <MartijnVdS> popey: there was a generation of netbooks with Nvidia ion I think
[18:30] <popey> not his tho
[18:31] <diddledan> nvidia ion was actually pretty powerful
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: except even its windows drivers are crashy as.. something crashy
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: a bridge in Kent.
[18:31] <diddledan> lol
[18:31] <mR0rI0n> the box says intel
[18:31] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: it's not just me that's tasteless then? :-p
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: nah, it's never "too soon"
[18:32] <daftykins> something happened in Kent with a bridge? :)
[18:33] <popey> lots of things
[18:33] <popey> in quick succession
[18:33] <diddledan> about 100 things
[18:33] <diddledan> :-D
[18:33] <MartijnVdS> because keeping distance and slowing down in fog are Not Done
[18:33] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: it's britain
[18:33] <diddledan> speed limits are advisory only, also
[18:34] <mR0rI0n> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZrEyof5Rc
[18:35] <mR0rI0n> that th bridge you were talking about
[18:35] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: "I'd slow down, but the guy behind me might be in a hurry" ?
[18:35] <MartijnVdS> !family | mR0rI0n
[18:35] <MartijnVdS> bot doesn't understand "family"?
[18:35] <mR0rI0n> what it was all blurred it might as well be rated g
[18:36] <diddledan> since when has the uk had a G rating?
[18:37] <diddledan> G = gratuitous?
[18:37] <mR0rI0n> hell if i know im american this room was just less crowded and more polite
[18:37] <diddledan> :-)
[18:37] <diddledan> kill the infidel!
[18:37]  * MartijnVdS fires up the drone
[18:37] <mR0rI0n> gotta catch me first
[18:37] <diddledan> wait, did that just get me onto an NSA watchlist?
[18:38] <diddledan> o_O
[18:38] <diddledan> did I upset?
[18:38] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: nope, it just moved you a bit higher on it
[18:38] <diddledan> phew
[18:38] <diddledan> as long as it's business as normal, I don't mind
[18:40] <diddledan> why do I have a serious lack of monitors/displays?
[18:40] <diddledan> I have two plus a laptop
[18:40] <daftykins> how is that a lack?
[18:40] <diddledan> or maybe two laptops if I count work's
[18:41] <diddledan> daftykins: because I have four PCs and I like to dual-monitor my mac
[18:41] <daftykins> that doesn't seem to answer my query sir
[18:42] <diddledan> 1 monitor vs 4 pcs == lack of displays
[18:42] <daftykins> you need to input switch better
[18:42] <MartijnVdS> or just buy a few more screens
[18:43] <diddledan> I like the way MartijnVdS thinks
[18:43] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: but your wallet doesn't
[18:43] <diddledan> indeed
[18:43] <MartijnVdS> mine doesn't like me either :(
[18:43] <daftykins> i don't, he's killing mother nature :(
[18:44] <diddledan> mother nature died years ago. we're living on a carcasse now
[18:44] <daftykins> oh, that makes it alright? ok then
[18:45] <diddledan> sure, even if we stop destroying the everything there's no way it'll recover again 'cos it's already dead
[18:46] <diddledan> we've already reached negative-return, so now we need to go all the way around the moon to get back again
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> wut.. @ PHP advisory
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> It was discovered that PHP did not properly handle certificates with NULL
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> characters in the Subject Alternative Name field.
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> Didn't we fix that in everything years ago?
[18:47] <diddledan> only unlike 13, we don't have a square CO2 filter, a sock, and a tube of toothpaste to be able to keep us sustained for the elongated journey
[18:48] <diddledan> i.e. we're royally held together by a screw-threaded nail
[18:49] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: they rewrote php
[18:49] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: again?
[18:50] <daftykins> 0o
[18:50] <diddledan> yeah, I think each point-release is counted as a complete rewrite
[18:50] <ali1234> where is the documentation for indicators?
[18:50] <mgdm> diddledan: not even mildly true
[18:51] <mgdm> That sounds like a bug in OpenSSL, I wonder if there was a bundled version
[18:51] <diddledan> mgdm: which bit?
[18:51] <mgdm> 19:49 < diddledan> MartijnVdS: they rewrote php
[18:51] <mgdm> unless youw ere joking
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> mgdm: it's a bug in the handling of openssl api functions
[18:51] <diddledan> mgdm: there was a lot of untruth in everything I've said for the last 30 minutes
[18:51] <mgdm> MartijnVdS: ah
[18:51] <mgdm> diddledan: as you were, then
[18:52] <diddledan> e.g. mother nature is alive and well, she's kicking back with father christmas
[18:52] <mgdm> i didn't see that bit
[18:52] <diddledan> :-p
[18:52] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: oh she got rid of father time?
[18:53] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: she's a bit loose
[18:54] <diddledan> oh fudge, that php vuln. it's probably present in our production system that cannot be upgraded (easily)
[18:54] <MartijnVdS> *\o/*
[18:55] <diddledan> I still need to find time to test an upgrade procedure
[18:55] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: http://developerexcuses.com/
[18:55] <diddledan> :-)
[18:58] <daftykins> hmm tempted to do a PC upgrade
[18:58] <daftykins> step 1, newer case with front mounted USB3 :)
[18:59] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/case/mid-tower/silencio-550.html~
[18:59] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: I'm very pleased with that one
[19:01] <daftykins> i've an Antec P182 at the moment, so i'm tempted to continue with an Antec :)
[19:01] <daftykins> nice thick skinned side panels for silencing
[19:01] <MartijnVdS> this one is quiet, even with 3 fans
[19:02] <daftykins> yeah same here :)
[19:03] <daftykins> built in fan controllers usually too, simple little sliders for low/medium/high speed settings
[19:03] <MartijnVdS> Oh I don't even *want* that :)
[19:03] <MartijnVdS> My PC can figure that out by itself in software
[19:04] <daftykins> i see no reason for that
[19:04] <daftykins> set on low, forget
[19:04] <MartijnVdS> then why have the setters?
[19:05] <daftykins> 'cause they enable the lower speed setting
[19:06] <daftykins> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-168-AN
[19:06] <daftykins> £83
[19:06] <MartijnVdS> shiny
[19:07] <MartijnVdS> time for non-screen entertainment ;)
[19:07] <diddledan> what kind of entertainment doesn't involve a screen?
[19:07] <daftykins> hahaha
[19:08] <daftykins> i can think of plenty
[19:21] <mungbean> airfix \o/
[19:21] <mungbean> jigsaws (when on holiday)
[19:22] <daftykins> :>
[19:22] <daftykins> mungbean: have you got a new model on the go?
[19:23] <mungbean> i do.
[19:24] <mungbean> http://www.amazon.com/Hasegawa-GMC-CCKW-353-Cargo-Truck/dp/B0006NGOY2
[19:24] <mungbean> reviews were written by numpties lol
[19:37] <daftykins> fools indeed
[19:38] <mungbean> #ubuntu is too high traffic :(
[19:39] <mungbean> and -uk is too low..
[19:39] <mungbean> just daftykins on the night shift..
[19:40] <mungbean> can't find a bug on launchpad either. i love when you find your bug on bugzilla and its a WONTFIX f17 is expired you suck.
[19:43] <daftykins> ^_^
[19:44] <daftykins> F17? fedora?
[19:44] <daftykins> oops quart to 9, best do that eating thing
[19:56] <popey> hmm
[19:56]  * popey has dug out his xbox
[19:56] <popey> time to play some games
[19:57] <daftykins> 360? :)
[19:57] <popey> no, original xbox crystal
[19:57] <popey> 360 is in the lounge
[19:58] <popey> so doesn't need "digging out" :D
[19:58] <neuro> vas ist popey gamertag?
[19:58] <daftykins> :)
[19:58] <daftykins> my crystal xbox is up there on the shelf
[19:58] <daftykins> and there it shall remain
[19:59] <popey> popeydc
[19:59] <popey> upgraded xbmc4xboc and other stuff on my xbox
[19:59] <popey> was fun
[20:00] <neuro> madman :)
[20:00] <daftykins> ah yes i saw some chat by the guy that looks after that the other day
[20:00] <daftykins> i think he referred to moving a lot of the add-on code over
[20:00] <popey> that would be exobuzz ☻
[20:00] <daftykins> \o/
[20:00] <daftykins> i retired the xbox after i got my ion HTPC
[20:01] <daftykins> i wanted HD playback asap :>
[20:01] <neuro> huh
[20:01] <popey> I suspect this will mostly end up playing games
[20:01] <neuro> seems i can't add friends from the ios smartglass app
[20:01] <daftykins> really 0o
[20:02] <daftykins> lets see what the android one will let me do
[20:02] <daftykins> you hit search first on your friends list yeah?
[20:02] <mungbean> anyone having resume from suspend issues on 3.8 kernel? doesn't ask for password
[20:02] <popey> muhaha
[20:02] <popey> GTAIII
[20:02] <daftykins> :>
[20:03] <daftykins> haha nice avatar popey
[20:03] <mungbean> i spent soo many hours of my life on gta3 and vice city
[20:03] <daftykins> also a stellar 475 gamerscore XD
[20:03] <neuro> well, that's pretty unintuitive
[20:03] <mungbean> and ssx3
[20:03] <daftykins> neuro: i'd have to disagree there
[20:03] <neuro> popey: friendage request sent
[20:04] <mungbean> my mate used to return from work and stand on top of the mutli story in gta3 just sniping pedestrians
[20:04] <mungbean> hes a mild manneered non psycho too
[20:04] <daftykins> i've never been especially fond of those that solely mess about in GTA
[20:05] <daftykins> oh did you get chinatown wars for the DS in the end mungbean ? i think it was you anywho
[20:05] <mungbean> yes, for 4.60 inc P&P
[20:05] <mungbean> its on its way
[20:05] <daftykins> :O
[20:05] <daftykins> nice
[20:05] <mungbean> would you receommend any others?
[20:05] <mungbean> COD4?
[20:05]  * neuro is https://live.xbox.com/en-GB/Profile?gamertag=evilneuro
[20:05] <daftykins> i don't own anything else besides professor layton games i got for an ex that left them with me
[20:05] <popey> yeah, I'd do that too mungbean
[20:05] <neuro> and also http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/evilneuro/stats/115000054/xbox/
[20:06] <neuro> yes, that says 924 hours
[20:07] <mungbean> my wife played every prof layton
[20:07] <mungbean> she loved it
[20:07] <mungbean> esp during her pregnancy
[20:07] <mungbean> a facebook friend just said i was looking like pete townshend..do i unfriend him:P
[20:08] <neuro> well, do you?
[20:09] <mungbean> no
[20:10] <mungbean> more like cross between young gary lineker/gary neville and dj qualls
[20:10] <mungbean> depending on how complementary you want to be
[20:11]  * popey chuckles at silverlight running on that page neuro posted
[20:11] <neuro> yeah, pain in the bum
[20:11] <popey> works here ☻
[20:12] <popey> ish
[20:15] <mungbean> neuro: i think he meant this pic http://grarg.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/peteTownsend002.png
[20:44] <mungbean> GSOC plans for rainy: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2013/dynalon/27001
[20:44] <mungbean> i hope he manages them
[20:45] <mungbean> Server-side encryption and PostgreSQL support land in Rainy's git, will be in next release:
[20:45] <mungbean> sweet
[21:00] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/t3t0t4fcc6j04qa/basket.JPG
[21:00] <daftykins> £666 D:
[21:04] <diddledan> I want that cpu+mobo
[21:04] <diddledan> *drool*
[21:04] <diddledan> sorry, I'm getting your toys all soggy
[21:04] <daftykins> ^_^
[21:05] <daftykins> not sure i really want to just yet
[21:11] <popey> mungbean: I have a nice new setup for encrypted file sync now
[21:11] <popey> am happy happy
[21:11] <popey> https://raymii.org/s/articles/Set_up_your_own_truly_secure_encrypted_shared_storage_aka_Dropbox_clone.html
[21:28] <AlanBell> that is a nice setup
[21:28] <popey> it is!
[21:29] <popey> i actually have gpg encrypted files inside the encrypted folder ☻
[21:36] <bigcalm> Good evening peeps :)