=== Hornet- is now known as Hornet === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [07:01] davmor2: I was suluting my work mates as a wind up as I was not at work :p === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [07:51] Morning [07:52] let's all congratulate daubers_ today :) [07:52] (assuming he didn't lie to Google twice) [07:52] Happy birthday daubers_ [08:14] Good morning peeps :) [08:19] yo [08:24] Good morning all, happy Be Late For Something Day! :-D [08:24] I'm always late for work [08:27] lol i was uncharacteristically late for work today [08:28] We were very early for school today. [08:28] my car broke down on the way to an appointment so I am technically late [08:28] and caused wifey to be late for work as she rescued me [08:28] :( [08:28] It's as if you all knew already! [08:29] JamesTait: have you been late for something yet today? [08:29] he seems earlier than usual, if anything [08:29] Good point [08:29] HEATHEN [08:30] bigcalm, I haven't, yet. I'll undoubtedly be late finishing work, though. I always am. [08:30] Or so I'm told. [08:31] Is midnight late? [08:31] I need to cut down [08:31] moneysavingexpert emails have become lame since being bought out by moneycomparethesupermarket [08:34] moneysavingexpert was sold? [08:34] yes for big bucks [08:34] Martin Lewis sells MoneySavingExpert.com for £87m [08:35] gosh [08:35] you only spend that kind of money when you have intentions to fleece 1m people a week [08:35] i rarely visit, in fact i subscribed to one thread today [08:35] I dont like MSE or MSL [08:35] i just get the weekly email that used to be good [08:36] good morning everyone, [08:42] morning brobostigon [08:42] morning mungbean [08:42] CM 10.1.3 rc2 :) === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [08:43] Is Martin Lewis any relation to Paul Lewis that presents Moneybox [08:43] and huey lewis who does the news [08:44] * mungbean sorry [08:44] Just wondered because of the similar topics [08:46] is moneybox an itv programme? [08:46] never heard of it [08:46] radio4 :) [08:46] ah lol [08:47] don't really do radio [08:47] bbc radio has some good satire, :D [08:47] Apparently not related [08:47] i do daddy jukebox. my son says daddy please can i have track 8 then track 3 and then 15 on the other cd [08:48] Although looking at one of Martins comments on moneysavingexpert "Nope. Though as a joke whenever I'm on Moneybox before hand I threaten to call him Dad" [08:48] fortunately he's learned to use the stereo at home [08:49] satire is a bit 1800s [08:50] interesting how the women are dressing for the weather they want and the men dressed for the weather it was when they left the house [08:51] evrybody look at this: http://iceland.adagios.org/iceland/ [08:55] mungbean: why, is Iceland sinking? [08:55] because your mum went there [08:56] oh dear. [08:56] \o/ [08:56] sorry i regressed to a teengager for a moment [08:58] i don't think UK could possibly know how many people are in A&E beds [08:58] yay for small countries [08:58] seems appropriate time to post this :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U53XWlGK4hY [08:59] oh my [08:59] * jussi smiles [08:59] I think I'd rather watch people get fooled into thinking they were about to die in a meteor crater: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqTyPWgi5qM [09:00] about to reboot one node of stupid sun cluster :S [09:00] worst system ever [09:00] jussi: pmsl [09:01] mungbean: Thats quite easy to answer, how many A&E beds are there, every bed will probably be filled, so same figure for number of people in A&E beds (assuming there aren't any 2 to bed wards) [09:02] slot-001 PCIe 0 faulted Sun Microsystems, Inc. Dual 4x3Gb External SAS HBA (Rev C0) [09:02] :( sucks [09:04] at least it knows (assuming it's correct), mungbean [09:04] gonna reboot to check [09:04] I wish more of my hardware detected failure that clearly [09:19] SAS cards shouldn't just die like that [09:20] scared because this server i'm rebooting is not on site and not really mine [09:21] So why risk getting the blame? Get someone else to reboot it ;P [09:22] who? [09:22] i'm covering for maternity leave :( [09:23] its been broken since i inherited it [09:23] mpt_check_task_mgt: Task 0x1 failed. I [09:23] ok this is bad [09:23] NOTICE: One or more I/O devices have been retired === msm is now known as Guest12378 [09:34] Can you virtualise it, mungbean? It might even be possible to seamlessly move its services over to a virtual server... [09:34] sun [09:34] it's on support contract. i just need to figure if thats the SAS card thats being used [09:35] * dwatkins assumed there was some way of virtualising a native Sun machine (as opposed to Solaris x86, which we don't talk about) [09:35] its part of a 2node cluster server many TB of storage [09:35] ah ok [09:35] unsure what is more flaky, their software or the hardware [09:36] what kind of software? I assume you can't just install a Linux server and migrate the data, then. [09:36] its basically a flashy storage device running ZFS [09:37] but the sun firmware for it is shonky [09:37] I've seen worse ;) [09:37] not for the moeny they paid [09:37] :( [09:37] MS excepted [09:39] I've seen quite the range of storage servers, from the nightmarish to the "easily administered" which actually are (Panasas) [09:39] this is a 7410 storage server [09:39] then again, when each storage blade has its own OS running on it, you expect it to be doing a lot [09:39] nice UI but spontaneous reboots if you fart near it [09:39] ah yes, SGI made something fairly similar [09:40] we had one customer called up asking how to fix their storage server, as a light had gone amber on it, and no-one who knew how to log in to it had worked for the company for about 8 years ;) [09:40] I hope they blew air into it to clear the dust out every so often (although in a good server room, that shouldn't be an issue, I guess - probably something to do with static and filtered/clean air) [09:55] I need chocolate [09:55] chocolate always helps the day go faster [09:56] has lots in his drawer [09:56] I totally need one of those [09:57] twirl bites or cheapo value sainsburys choc [09:57] and choccy cookies [10:11] Hiiii [10:14] helloooo [10:15] Waaaaaaaant sleeeeeeeeep [10:15] ergh, my old broadband provider wants a signed letter asking for termination of my account. but my printer won't work so I can't sign a printout [10:18] i don't get it. man comes to give quote for fence. no quote received, now not answering calls [10:18] is business really that good? [10:18] or are fence people just slack about plying their trade? [10:19] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBFgsFeZCgU&feature=youtube_gdata_player [10:20] popey: 10 days back i installed ubuntu 12.10 it's working fine but / partation usage 100 % space [10:21] Morning all [10:21] dvrr: yes, i recall [10:21] there's others besides popey who can help in here. (popey isn't paid to support this chan) [10:22] (neither is anyone else) [10:22] partation size / 130gb i give [10:23] I would run this... [10:24] sudo du -xB M --max-depth=2 / | sort -rn | head -n 15 [10:24] which will give you a list of the top 15 directories eating space [10:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6065976/ open this df -h [10:26] hmm [10:27] mungbean, hire a pole. poles do their jobs. it's the british you need to be wary of [10:27] ls -la / [10:27] directhex: poles in britain, yeah [10:27] i bet there's loads of lazy poles in poland too [10:28] in fairness my plumber is british and good [10:28] poles just stand around all day holding signs up afaict [10:29] it seems to be par for the course that many of these people are terrible at managing customers [10:30] dvrr: did you see what I suggested? [10:30] popey: y / partation is full 100% i did't copy any data [10:31] 11:23:20 < popey> I would run this... [10:31] 11:24:03 < popey> sudo du -xB M --max-depth=2 / | sort -rn | head -n 15 [10:31] 11:24:12 < popey> which will give you a list of the top 15 directories eating space [10:31] dvrr: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [10:31] .........................\o/ [10:32] who was i talking to about DS games the other day? wondered if COD4 was any good on DS [10:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066007/ [10:33] DING DING DING [10:33] 134942M /root/oldga2 [10:33] thats where your space went dvrr [10:34] there's also a nice gui for this too, what's it called? [10:34] i was assuming there was a gui problem [10:34] baobab [10:34] "Disk Usage Analyser" [10:34] i will check oldga2 [10:34] data [10:35] your /home is q small too [10:35] compared to the other dirs [10:35] mungbean, stick to 2D on the DS [10:35] directhex: i have a DSI xl [10:35] I just found that my home directory is holding 61GB of fun. Wonder if I should do something about that [10:36] my son stole my ds [10:36] mungbean, which has the same CPU as the regular DS, but can run download-only DSi titles at a higher clock speed [10:36] mungbean, the GPU is still made of cheese and useless for 3D [10:36] but is call of duty 4 any good on it? [10:36] http://www.metacritic.com/game/ds/call-of-duty-4-modern-warfare - user reviews seem pretty low [10:37] ya i removed oldga2 now usage 5% only [10:37] 4G spotify cache, wow [10:37] question, is there a way to lockdown android abit, so when my gf's son gets hold of my tablet, i can limit what he can break. ? [10:37] you can have multi users on android [10:37] thats what I do [10:37] from which version popey [10:37] 4.something [10:38] popey: not actually tried that, i have 4.3 here, so it should work fine. [10:38] 4.3 maybe? [10:38] my nexus 7 has 4 profiles, one for each of us [10:38] directhex: of the user reviews, most were ok , but only 13 reviews so the troll who said 1 skewed it [10:38] that way the kids can install their apps and I dont have to see them [10:38] i shall have to try it. [10:38] and they can keep their own high scores etc [10:38] you shall [10:38] oldga2 file size 600m y it is usage 100% [10:39] only 1 file is there [10:39] well there's something in there [10:39] what command are you typing [10:39] brobostigon, that's actually a selling feature of WP8 - "kid's corner" lets you define a subset of apps with a private profile, and a different pin number, so you can hand locked phone to child, and they can unlock/play with no risk to your stuff [10:39] no [10:39] dvrr: sudo ls -lha /root/oldga2 [10:39] dvrr what command are you typing [10:40] sudo du -hs /root/oldga2 [10:40] i wish ds save games could be locked/backed [10:40] directhex: wow, did not know that, research required. [10:40] my son onccasionally would delete all save games of mario 64ds [10:40] use an r4 or something, backup the saves to your pc [10:40] "why did you do that?" "i don't know" [10:41] hmm i have an r4 [10:41] but you would have to backup the game [10:41] with an orig game its not v possible to backup the save games [10:41] i removed oldga2 file [10:42] http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?12405-A-tool-to-backup-HG-SS-saves mungbean [10:43] dunno if that works [10:43] cheers i might revisit this then [10:44] first i have gta to play :D [10:44] what does HG/SS mean? [10:44] saved state i presume [10:44] heart gold and soul silver [10:45] pokemon games [10:45] i've probably lost the r4 now :( [10:46] This tool allows you to backup and restore saves from commercial Nintendo handheld game cartridges. [10:46] Requirements: - A DLDI-capable Flash Card - A Nintendo DS Phat/Lite. DSi and 3DS are not supported! [10:46] bummer [10:46] find a child with a DS...profit [10:47] my wife almost cried when all the stars she'd collected were wiped [10:47] cos she had to play thorugh again and unlock stuff for the munchkin [10:49] http://clippingmagic.com/ Instantly Remove The Background From Your Images === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [10:51] Listening to a programme about a member of the INternational Space Orchestra, am most disappointed to find that they don't perform in space [10:52] Yet? [10:52] True, maybe in future [10:53] wasn't there an international colouring contest on the moon? [10:53] sofia pamela? [10:53] lucia pamela [10:54] http://www.intoouterspace.com/ [10:55] My android tv stick still hasn't arrived. Starting to wonder if it'll ever get here. Just checked the Amazon market seller's profile, they are in HK [10:56] Doh [10:56] * funkyHat has been meaning to order one of those [10:56] bigcalm: which one did you go for? [10:56] funkyHat: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B18K4T2 [10:56] mk802 are generally ok [10:57] funkyHat: I'll let you know if it's any good, if it ever gets here [10:57] i need a telly that works with it tho [10:57] bigcalm: did you go for a remote thingy for it too? [10:57] do any android sticks work with old tellies that don't do hd? [10:57] funkyHat: not yet. Might do === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [10:58] diddledan: you need HDMI and a USB port (for power) [10:58] diddledan: dunno, but would prob look a bit nasty [10:58] i have spare vga monitors at home too [10:58] I'm thinking purely for video purposes [10:58] and a composite->vga convertor box [11:00] cool, just got a bbc iplayer android update, that allows for official downloading of progs. [11:00] how long for? [11:00] 30days i think still applies. [11:00] mehhhhhhh [11:00] will still use get-iplayer, :) [11:01] mind you, i generally delete after i watch stuff [11:01] so could be useful on the tablet [11:01] except needing 50 different apps to watch all the channels is a pain, and youtube tends to help that [11:04] has anyone looked at docker? [11:05] brobostigon: Thanks for the heads up on iplayer, even better it works with android 4.3 [11:06] DJones: yep :), youre welcome. [11:07] https://www.docker.io/ [11:07] Docker is an open-source project to easily create lightweight, portable, self-sufficient containers from any application. The same container that a developer builds and tests on a laptop can run at scale, in production, on VMs, bare metal, OpenStack clusters, public clouds and more. [11:07] ali1234: oddly G+ won't let me +1 your bitcoin comment [11:07] or indeed any comment on that post [11:07] insert bitcoins to continue [11:08] I heard G+ also buries any post where you mention bitcoins [11:08] :-| [11:08] conspiracy theory [11:08] popey: you sure you are logged in :D and is it a community post if so you have to join the community it has a little popup that might be being blocked [11:09] what i'm really confused about is this: http://deals.ebay.com/blog/whats-the-deal-with-bitcoins-anyway/ [11:09] davmor2: its my post [11:09] popey: i tried +1 somebodys comment, it said ther's a problem [11:09] it does the +1 then errors and rolls it back [11:09] popey: oh you stand no chance then :) [11:10] yet I can leave a comment [11:10] https://plus.google.com/u/0/109365858706205035322/posts/Pd7Srhk9WxY [11:10] popey: I've never had that happen, I have had it no display a popup for a community as the popup blocker stopped it :) [11:12] i get a #503 trying to +1 someone [11:12] Ditto [11:12] spookily that person just endorsed me out fo the blue on linkedin [11:12] just after i tried to click :P [11:12] mungbean was endorsed for g+ [11:13] ah good, not just me then [11:13] popey: same here [11:14] popey: google hates you ;) [11:14] join the club [11:15] http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/09/03/have-the-bbc-just-scheduled-a-missing-episode-of-dads-army/ [11:15] popey: what you have lots of social media companies hating you then? [11:19] +1 broken for everyone everywhere by the looks of it [11:19] is this ubuntu phone? looks horrific photo http://i.imgur.com/pHiQeUo.png [11:19] yup [11:20] not a great choice of background there [11:21] when did that sheppey crash happen? [11:22] thats unbelievable [11:22] everybody clearly goign too fast [11:22] ? [11:22] http://uk.news.yahoo.com/sheppey-car-crash-100-vehicles-kent-bridge-motorists-drivers-collision-094450208.html#tc7mgAp [11:23] Ok [11:23] too fast for the conditions... === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [11:23] visibiltiy down to 20yds and everybody flying along [11:25] so many cars they are having to write numbers on them [11:25] must be so scary see a lorry possibly squeezing you against a wall [11:28] too fast / too close [11:28] alan hansen paid £40k per match of the day show [11:28] first day of kids back to school.. guess some people forgot how to drive over thesummer [11:28] http://imgur.com/gallery/SbS78Sh czajkowski [11:28] why are tv people vilified like bankers? [11:29] ^people^people not [11:29] popey: "trying" [11:29] tv people? [11:29] BBC presenters namely [11:35] popey: you saying czajkowski is a cute little dog, or was it more that she likes pugs and you happened upon that image? [11:36] yes [11:38] popey: I like a man that lives on the edge :D Oh and lives in hitting range of czajkowski :D [11:41] mungbean: to be honest I've seen three lorries consentena a car before now and the woman in the car not make it so I would just be gobsmacked at being alive to be honest [11:49] hmm so i have to conclude that the ebay blog has been hacked [11:49] not surprising really, it's wordpress after all [11:51] looks okay here [11:52] http://deals.ebay.com/blog/whats-the-deal-with-bitcoins-anyway/ [11:52] why would that indicate hackage? [11:52] oh, thats not the blog i was reading [11:52] http://blog.ebay.com/ [11:53] diddledan: well first of all nearly that whole page is inside an iframe that leads to a different domain [11:53] secondly it's not linked from anywhere else at all that i can see [11:53] well that _would_ indicate it then [11:53] popey: :) [11:54] thirdly it says "what do you think?" but botht he video and the page have comments off (the rest of the blog allows comments) [11:54] https://www.dropbox.com/s/unxdto1fet81zkb/2013-09-05%2011.16.43.jpg bought and paid for with bitcoins \o/ [11:54] fourthly video uploaded by a unknown user with no other videos [11:54] who needs £ now ;) [11:54] and fifth the blog is wordpress so it's probably riddled with vulnerabilities [11:55] diddledan: how's that? [11:55] very convincing :-) [11:55] I can't say I looked any deeper than the content [11:55] weirdly though there is this: http://deals.ebay.com/blog/your-last-minute-thanksgiving-feast-for-10-all-for-less-than-75/ [11:56] the image on that page is hosted on the same external domain as the bitcoin page [11:56] however, that could also have been done by the hacker in order to try to make the bitcoin page look more credible === deegee is now known as drussell [11:59] Azelphur: how did that work then? [12:00] ali1234: http://cryptodechange.com :) [12:00] what is it? [12:03] that site has a distinct lack of information like where they delivery to and so on === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:03] ali1234: it's a tesco frontend [12:03] so, pretty much everywhere [12:03] meaning what? [12:04] meaning they deliver to anywhere that tesco delivers to [12:04] so you can buy anything from tescos? [12:05] yup [12:05] how much does it cost for delivery? [12:07] £5 [12:07] £5 [12:07] not bad [12:09] indeed [12:09] ali1234: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3832397/screenshots/2013/Sep/2013-09-04-213233_982x1011_scrot.png [12:15] Woop! Putting mysqld into supervisor has paid off. Danm thing fell over 4 hours ago, supervisor restart it, my websites continue to work :) [12:15] bigcalm: doesn't upstart do that for you? [12:16] diddledan: I've yet to see that happen [12:17] This is the only server I have ever had mysqld fall over on a regular basis. Lots of trying to fix it (months on and off), just going with what works - supervisor [12:26] popey: good job that laptop video used dubstep for the music. Meant that I wasn't jarred out of my current Spotify playlist :) [12:30] bigcalm: does the error log tell you anything about why it died? OOM perhaps? [12:30] mgdm: nope [12:30] bigcalm: weird [12:30] mgdm: the error log is always empty [12:33] mgdm: this is in syslog though [12:33] Sep 5 09:08:54 banana kernel: Out of memory: Kill process 16090 (mysqld) score 90 or sacrifice child [12:33] Sep 5 09:08:54 banana kernel: Killed process 16090 (mysqld) total-vm:325844kB, anon-rss:26944kB, file-rss:0kB [12:33] sounds like you ran out of memory [12:33] hah, banana kernel. [12:34] it's only coincidence that it killed mysqld [12:34] Oooo, looking higher up I can see: [12:34] Sep 5 09:08:54 banana kernel: nginx invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0, oom_adj=0, oom_score_adj=0 [12:34] diddledan: it's always mysqld that gets killed [12:34] Azelphur: I was amused by that as well :) [12:34] bigcalm: on OOM the kernel will kill any process that tries to allocate more memory [12:36] so you need to work out what's eating up all your goats [12:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066310/ [12:37] wolf mayhaps? [12:37] What's wolf? [12:37] or an ogre? [12:37] s/goats/rams/ >.< [12:37] Heh [12:37] mysqltop [12:37] it's a furry creature with big teef [12:37] :P [12:38] mungbean: ? [12:39] there's a few top commands for mysql that might help [12:39] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2412099/Sheppey-crash-100-vehicles-pile-misty-conditions-Kent.html destroy all the cars \o/ [12:39] bigcalm: http://hackmysql.com/mysqlreport is quite simple to parse [12:40] Azelphur: cheering on a massive accident, where people probably got injured? Tasteless, much? [12:40] mgdm: only 200 got injured [12:41] the quote was "crashing continued for 10 mins" [12:41] mgdm: mostly minor injuries, and poking fun at terrible things is a human norm [12:41] diddledan: They chjanged that and reduced it to only 8 injured last time I saw [12:41] even if for 1 minute is horrific [12:42] mgdm: plus, apparently it was all down to poor driving, so my sympathy is low [12:42] my dad was onthe motorway and there was a crash. he put on his brakes and avoided collision, however a coach turned on its side and he could see it in his mirrors, crushing cars, 1...2...3....getting closer...just stopped in time [12:42] mgdm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066330/ is very nice to look at, but I don't know what I'm looking for :) [12:43] Azelphur: none of that makes any difference, IMO [12:43] * Azelphur shrugs [12:43] has this been photoshopped, or is there really a new car that can travel underground? http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/05/article-2412099-1BA26A45000005DC-946_964x685.jpg [12:43] diddledan: firemen cut the froof off [12:43] diddledan: again tasteless [12:44] bigcalm: maybe drop the innodb_buffer_pool_size - lines 78 and 79 imply you can fit most of your data in 27MB of RAM, whereas you have 128MB set for it - try 32? [12:44] Okay, ya [12:44] ta [12:44] bigcalm: SELECT * FROM disclaimer; [12:44] Hehe [12:47] anyone looking for job in london atm? [12:47] * bigcalm scratches his head. Why can't I find innodb_buffer_pool_size in any config files? [12:47] i suppose this chan aint the best as we only have about 30 regulars , the rest are lurkers [12:47] linuxjobs list? [12:48] bigcalm: it needs to go under [mysqld] in /etc/my.cnf, it might not already be there [12:48] yeah, tried that before, very little response except for a weirdo [12:48] bigcalm: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/innodb-parameters.html [12:48] *may not be weird [12:49] mungbean: was the weirdo me? [12:49] <-- veery weird [12:49] Ah, just found it in foo_my.cnf [12:50] nope, was a few yrs ago [12:50] foo? [12:50] Yep, foo [12:50] i can't unsee that numa numa vids you showed me diddledan [12:50] lol, I thought everyone had seen that [12:50] 50M [12:50] plus one [12:51] its like the star wars kid [12:51] http://mashable.com/2013/05/10/star-wars-kid-interview-cyberbullying/ [12:55] bigcalm: is the OOMing server running WP by any chance? [12:55] Finally got it down to be 32MB. I'm going to keep mysqld in supervisor for a while though [12:55] heh [12:55] mgdm: yes [12:55] Boom! [12:55] That's like the 6th machine I've heard OOM with wordpress [12:55] I've never had a problem with it before [12:55] bigcalm: you're the second person in two days I've given that advice to (the other was an under-RAMed VM, with an unconfigured MySQL, and no static cache plugins in WP) [12:56] One difference is that my father is using a CRM plugin for his WP site on my server [12:56] get WP-SuperCache or whatever it is on there [12:56] and APC [12:56] * bigcalm loops [12:56] and switch from apache to lighttpd [12:56] I have had exactly zero OOMs since I switched from apache to lighttpd [12:57] php-apc is already installed [12:57] popey: I think he's on nginx [12:57] mgdm: nope, only gitlab is on nginx [12:57] ah [12:57] mgdm: everything else is using Apache [12:57] then make nginx do WP too :-) [12:57] Ug [12:58] http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-super-cache/installation/ - not a install and forget kind of plugin :) [12:58] I'll poke it another time [12:59] WP is not an install and forget kind of software [13:00] It is for my dad, as I have to manage it [13:01] wordpress.com is -> that way [13:02] Hehe [13:02] Atempting [13:02] -A [13:04] bigcalm: falls off the edge of the earth following popey 's directions [13:24] joker.com finally allow payments by PayPal. That makes my life a lot easier [13:25] Saves me from having to go down stairs for my wallet === msm is now known as Guest2537 [13:49] A bit offtopic, but can anybody recommend an audiobook player for android [13:50] Looking at Smart Audiobook player or Audible [14:34] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/04/unicode_of_death_crash/ [14:38] i'd love to see a million applefans cry out in anguish as a unicode gets delivered over twitter and crashes their idevice [14:40] popey: which ios you on? [14:41] 6.something on iphone, 5.something on ipad [14:41] you wanna crash your device? [14:42] doesn't crash device, crashes offending app [14:42] oh , shame [14:42] https://twitter.com/codeblue87/status/372954308397920256 [14:42] if offending app is low level enough, that's fine [14:42] ^^ see what that does [14:42] 6.1.3 [14:42] but e.g. on twitter it just crashes twitter client [14:43] I've lost count of the number of klines I've seen on freenode for people posting the exploit [14:43] even though it's funny [14:44] i've seen it in comments but didnt' realise what it was till now [14:44] probably on omgubuntu [14:44] kids eh [14:44] there was one a while ago, you typed something like BEGINBOTSERVER on irc and anyone with one brand of antivirus would be disconnected [14:44] apparently the guy that designed the walkie talkie building also designed http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/29/las_vegas_death_ray/ [14:44] start key logger too [14:44] Seeker`, that was it [14:46] heh, yeah, that crashes chrome here [14:46] http://labs.phurix.net/articles/startkeylogger [14:56] * Seeker` wonders how many clients let you join #20,000 now [15:00] comma isn't valid in irc rfc, is it? [15:00] yes [15:00] comma seperated list of channels === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [15:06] 16:05 -%- Channel #000 created Thu Jan 28 17:23:00 2010 [15:06] ah [15:06] used to be that for a lot of clients, #20,000 would mkae you part all channels [15:06] I'm using irssi [15:06] I'm glad it didn't, although I do have my config saved. [15:07] I'm pretty sure restarting irssi would bring back most channels for me that I care to be in. [15:09] I figure that if i lose channels and can't remember them I probably don't need to be there :P [15:09] i remember when jono joined #asdf and got klined instantly [15:10] dunno which network that was === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:17] whats adfs? [15:17] asdf [15:19] nobody there :( [15:19] NO [15:19] jono (n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono) has joined #boycottnovel [15:20] It obviously wasn't freenode that jono get klined from then, given that mungbean must have joined it & didn't get klined [15:20] it was an empty chan [15:20] DJones: or they removed the kline [15:20] Seeker`: Could be, I'm sure theres still some channels floating round that do that [15:21] mungbean: can't of been empty or you wouldn't of seen the join notice :P [15:21] schordingers chan [15:21] can i just pick a chan of my choosing and op it if noone else is there? [15:21] #badgersarethebest [15:21] you will auto op if it doesnt exist [15:22] unless it's registered with chanserv [15:22] wondered if freenode was as anarchic as ircnet,say [15:22] mungbean: http://blog.freenode.net/2008/04/registering-a-channel-on-freenode/ [15:22] there's always blitzed... [15:27] \o/ blitzed [15:27] still limping along [15:27] I'm on there all the time [15:27] never had any problems with it [15:28] its got way fewer servers than it used to [15:29] argh i hate doing that [15:30] Did you join 0 ? [15:30] accidentally /wc then accidentally quit irssi [15:30] /wc? [15:31] its a pain sinec my config isn't exactly seamless [15:31] window close [15:31] Ah [15:31] should just run irssi and it connects to all my nets [15:31] but no [15:34] mungbean: just join them all and do a /save [15:34] iirc that's how irssi does it [15:34] ymmv, brbbbq [15:36] oh sweet. [15:36] TIL [15:36] woot [15:36] i connect to a bouncer on ircnet so may not work correctly but hey [15:36] I use linux little enough, I'm normally the one doing the learning around here [15:37] ah ok, you can include sequential commands in the config if necessary [15:37] e.g. /msg nickserv identify password [15:38] hmm shoulda backed up my old config [15:39] directhex: reading your link, the best part is that the guy from the Washington Post expected a reply at 3:30am local time for the blogger, clearly didn't do his research very well [15:39] then again, there are plenty of people around on #ubuntu-offtopic when I get in to work in the morning who may well be in the US, East or West. [15:40] whats the usual topic in offtopic? [15:41] the actual topic, or what's actually discussed? [15:41] the latter [15:41] can be pretty much anything [15:41] 08:29 < SunStar> so yeah uh... dunno. my AR928 works great [15:42] random hardware, custom kernels, why people who just joined #ubuntu a few hours ago are being told to shut up ;) [15:43] ok, not politics then...good [15:43] I think that's not allowed [15:43] nothing worse than US politics [15:43] see the response from its bot in DM: [15:43] 16:43 !politics [15:43] 16:43 Please take political discussion to ##politics. Thank you! [15:43] there's also !o4o, which is much longer [15:59] "n the development of DES, NSA convinced IBM that a reduced key size was sufficient; indirectly assisted in the development of the S-box structures; and certified that the final DES algorithm was, to the best of their knowledge, free from any statistical or mathematical weakness" [15:59] we all know how that turned out [16:00] "convinced" heh [16:01] I also like "indirectly assisted" [16:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Encryption_Standard [16:01] more details [16:01] NSA worked closely with IBM to strengthen the algorithm against all except brute force attacks and to strengthen substitution tables, called S-boxes. Conversely, NSA tried to convince IBM to reduce the length of the key from 64 to 48 bits. Ultimately they compromised on a 56-bit ke [16:02] I always wondered why it wasn't a power of 2 [16:02] i seem to remember we needed permission to run a 3DES VPN to our NY office [16:13] OMG! Celine Dion can pull off powerful hits! http://youtu.be/4f5KuRXtjeE [16:13] New single! [16:14] Bloody auto tune. _THE_ worst thing ever created by man [16:14] bigcalm: I thought everyone used it, though [16:14] almost everyone [16:15] Hate hate hate [16:44] adele as well [16:44] ? [16:44] A dell [16:47] $£%^£$%&"$%&" telemarketers [16:47] "I'd like to speak to you about your recent car accident" [16:48] lol [16:48] Seeker`: "Which one? I've had several" [16:49] is that related to the massiver pile up this morning [16:49] MartijnVdS: third such call in 3 days. Next time I'm going to go with "wow, it must have been a bad one, I can't even remember having a car accident. I guess that means I've got amnesia" === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [16:57] I wondered why the telemarketer wouldn't sell me any home improvements for the tent I told her I live in [16:58] when someone phones and asks for the phone bill payer, tell them it's you. when they ask which provider you're with, tell them you don't have a phone. that one confuses them somewhat [16:59] she told me she got my number from when I last renewed my car insurance online [16:59] I've never had car insurance in my name [17:00] does that mean you drive illegally? :-p [17:00] no, just that I'm named on someone elses insurance [17:00] hehe === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [17:13] bigcalm, popey: If you're looking for music: Andy Cato - Times & Places [17:14] bigcalm, popey: (assuming you both liked Akufen - My Way) [17:15] where is exobuzz when you need him [17:15] exobuzz? [17:15] hello ? [17:15] yay [17:15] pm [17:18] czajkowski: I cannot thank you more for your CC contributions! [17:18] czajkowski: it's a true blessing! [17:19] xnox: Don't do that czajkowski has to get her head through doorways now without damaging them [17:20] :D [17:21] :p [17:22] czajkowski: It's a service to get you through doorways, and your welcome ;) === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [18:14] hello [18:14] hi [18:16] can you possibly help me with a kernel issue [18:17] ask away [18:17] how would i update a kernel from 3.0 to 3.1 [18:18] what are you running, version wise and is it fully updated + upgraded? [18:18] ubuntu and as far as i know it is not [18:19] the auto update has failed to pop up where would i look to find updates [18:19] which version of ubuntu? [18:19] good question [18:19] are you in it now? [18:19] have i mentioned im new to linux [18:19] yes [18:20] ok if you'd like to find and run the terminal application [18:20] type in this command: "cat /etc/issue" [18:20] that should report which version you have [18:21] says no such file in directory [18:21] without quotes [18:22] i didnt use the quotes [18:22] ok, in that case then.. eek [18:22] lsb_release -a [18:22] ok try "cat /etc/lsb-release" instead [18:22] that also tells you what version [18:22] or what popey said [18:23] lsb_release doesn't usually tell me anything helpful - I think I used it with something like -r tho [18:23] ;) [18:23] 19:22:24 < popey> lsb_release -a [18:23] it says 13.4 [18:23] diddledan: I said -a for a reason ☻ [18:23] ok, latest version then [18:23] 13.04 [18:23] mR0rI0n: what happens when you try to run the update manager? [18:23] mR0rI0n: yay, so you are probably up to date [18:24] mR0rI0n: what if you run "uname -a" [18:24] it will tell you what kernel version you're running [18:24] ok then would there be another reason my comptuer goes into panic mode [18:24] define panic mode? [18:25] 3.8.0-25-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:47:30 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux [18:25] computer fails to do anything and is locked in terminal [18:26] what video card do you have? [18:26] i take it the 3.8.0 is the kernel...and what ever is in ths shitty netbook [18:27] intel no doubt [18:28] its a hp mini netbook 110 1000 so probably [18:28] have you ever had graphics operating such as during the install? [18:28] what do you mean by graphics operating [18:29] pretty pictures instead of the terminal [18:29] hang on. what state is it in now? [18:29] i use youtube alot [18:29] right. so you have a graphical desktop on the screen?> [18:29] but sometimes it locks up? [18:29] yes i have a graphical desktop on the screen [18:30] oh I must have misread then [18:30] yes it locks up occasionlly [18:30] do you have a nvidia card? [18:30] unlikely in a netbook [18:30] no [18:30] intel? [18:30] yes [18:30] popey: there was a generation of netbooks with Nvidia ion I think [18:30] not his tho [18:31] nvidia ion was actually pretty powerful [18:31] diddledan: except even its windows drivers are crashy as.. something crashy [18:31] diddledan: a bridge in Kent. [18:31] lol [18:31] the box says intel [18:31] MartijnVdS: it's not just me that's tasteless then? :-p [18:31] diddledan: nah, it's never "too soon" [18:32] something happened in Kent with a bridge? :) [18:33] lots of things [18:33] in quick succession [18:33] about 100 things [18:33] :-D [18:33] because keeping distance and slowing down in fog are Not Done [18:33] MartijnVdS: it's britain [18:33] speed limits are advisory only, also [18:34] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZrEyof5Rc [18:35] that th bridge you were talking about [18:35] diddledan: "I'd slow down, but the guy behind me might be in a hurry" ? [18:35] !family | mR0rI0n [18:35] bot doesn't understand "family"? [18:35] what it was all blurred it might as well be rated g [18:36] since when has the uk had a G rating? [18:37] G = gratuitous? [18:37] hell if i know im american this room was just less crowded and more polite [18:37] :-) [18:37] kill the infidel! [18:37] * MartijnVdS fires up the drone [18:37] gotta catch me first [18:37] wait, did that just get me onto an NSA watchlist? [18:38] o_O [18:38] did I upset? [18:38] diddledan: nope, it just moved you a bit higher on it [18:38] phew [18:38] as long as it's business as normal, I don't mind [18:40] why do I have a serious lack of monitors/displays? [18:40] I have two plus a laptop [18:40] how is that a lack? [18:40] or maybe two laptops if I count work's [18:41] daftykins: because I have four PCs and I like to dual-monitor my mac [18:41] that doesn't seem to answer my query sir [18:42] 1 monitor vs 4 pcs == lack of displays [18:42] you need to input switch better [18:42] or just buy a few more screens [18:43] I like the way MartijnVdS thinks [18:43] diddledan: but your wallet doesn't [18:43] indeed [18:43] mine doesn't like me either :( [18:43] i don't, he's killing mother nature :( [18:44] mother nature died years ago. we're living on a carcasse now [18:44] oh, that makes it alright? ok then [18:45] sure, even if we stop destroying the everything there's no way it'll recover again 'cos it's already dead [18:46] we've already reached negative-return, so now we need to go all the way around the moon to get back again [18:47] wut.. @ PHP advisory [18:47] It was discovered that PHP did not properly handle certificates with NULL [18:47] characters in the Subject Alternative Name field. [18:47] Didn't we fix that in everything years ago? [18:47] only unlike 13, we don't have a square CO2 filter, a sock, and a tube of toothpaste to be able to keep us sustained for the elongated journey === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [18:48] i.e. we're royally held together by a screw-threaded nail [18:49] MartijnVdS: they rewrote php [18:49] diddledan: again? [18:50] 0o [18:50] yeah, I think each point-release is counted as a complete rewrite [18:50] where is the documentation for indicators? [18:50] diddledan: not even mildly true [18:51] That sounds like a bug in OpenSSL, I wonder if there was a bundled version [18:51] mgdm: which bit? [18:51] 19:49 < diddledan> MartijnVdS: they rewrote php [18:51] unless youw ere joking [18:51] mgdm: it's a bug in the handling of openssl api functions [18:51] mgdm: there was a lot of untruth in everything I've said for the last 30 minutes [18:51] MartijnVdS: ah [18:51] diddledan: as you were, then [18:52] e.g. mother nature is alive and well, she's kicking back with father christmas [18:52] i didn't see that bit [18:52] :-p [18:52] diddledan: oh she got rid of father time? [18:53] MartijnVdS: she's a bit loose [18:54] oh fudge, that php vuln. it's probably present in our production system that cannot be upgraded (easily) [18:54] *\o/* [18:55] I still need to find time to test an upgrade procedure [18:55] diddledan: http://developerexcuses.com/ [18:55] :-) [18:58] hmm tempted to do a PC upgrade [18:58] step 1, newer case with front mounted USB3 :) [18:59] daftykins: http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/case/mid-tower/silencio-550.html~ [18:59] daftykins: I'm very pleased with that one [19:01] i've an Antec P182 at the moment, so i'm tempted to continue with an Antec :) [19:01] nice thick skinned side panels for silencing [19:01] this one is quiet, even with 3 fans [19:02] yeah same here :) [19:03] built in fan controllers usually too, simple little sliders for low/medium/high speed settings [19:03] Oh I don't even *want* that :) [19:03] My PC can figure that out by itself in software [19:04] i see no reason for that [19:04] set on low, forget [19:04] then why have the setters? [19:05] 'cause they enable the lower speed setting === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [19:06] http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-168-AN [19:06] £83 [19:06] shiny [19:07] time for non-screen entertainment ;) [19:07] what kind of entertainment doesn't involve a screen? [19:07] hahaha [19:08] i can think of plenty [19:21] airfix \o/ [19:21] jigsaws (when on holiday) [19:22] :> [19:22] mungbean: have you got a new model on the go? [19:23] i do. [19:24] http://www.amazon.com/Hasegawa-GMC-CCKW-353-Cargo-Truck/dp/B0006NGOY2 [19:24] reviews were written by numpties lol [19:37] fools indeed [19:38] #ubuntu is too high traffic :( [19:39] and -uk is too low.. [19:39] just daftykins on the night shift.. [19:40] can't find a bug on launchpad either. i love when you find your bug on bugzilla and its a WONTFIX f17 is expired you suck. [19:43] ^_^ [19:44] F17? fedora? [19:44] oops quart to 9, best do that eating thing [19:56] hmm [19:56] * popey has dug out his xbox [19:56] time to play some games [19:57] 360? :) [19:57] no, original xbox crystal [19:57] 360 is in the lounge [19:58] so doesn't need "digging out" :D [19:58] vas ist popey gamertag? [19:58] :) [19:58] my crystal xbox is up there on the shelf [19:58] and there it shall remain [19:59] popeydc [19:59] upgraded xbmc4xboc and other stuff on my xbox [19:59] was fun [20:00] madman :) [20:00] ah yes i saw some chat by the guy that looks after that the other day [20:00] i think he referred to moving a lot of the add-on code over [20:00] that would be exobuzz ☻ [20:00] \o/ [20:00] i retired the xbox after i got my ion HTPC [20:01] i wanted HD playback asap :> [20:01] huh [20:01] I suspect this will mostly end up playing games [20:01] seems i can't add friends from the ios smartglass app [20:01] really 0o [20:02] lets see what the android one will let me do [20:02] you hit search first on your friends list yeah? [20:02] anyone having resume from suspend issues on 3.8 kernel? doesn't ask for password [20:02] muhaha [20:02] GTAIII [20:02] :> [20:03] haha nice avatar popey [20:03] i spent soo many hours of my life on gta3 and vice city [20:03] also a stellar 475 gamerscore XD [20:03] well, that's pretty unintuitive [20:03] and ssx3 [20:03] neuro: i'd have to disagree there [20:03] popey: friendage request sent [20:04] my mate used to return from work and stand on top of the mutli story in gta3 just sniping pedestrians [20:04] hes a mild manneered non psycho too [20:04] i've never been especially fond of those that solely mess about in GTA [20:05] oh did you get chinatown wars for the DS in the end mungbean ? i think it was you anywho [20:05] yes, for 4.60 inc P&P [20:05] its on its way [20:05] :O [20:05] nice [20:05] would you receommend any others? [20:05] COD4? [20:05] * neuro is https://live.xbox.com/en-GB/Profile?gamertag=evilneuro [20:05] i don't own anything else besides professor layton games i got for an ex that left them with me [20:05] yeah, I'd do that too mungbean [20:05] and also http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/evilneuro/stats/115000054/xbox/ [20:06] yes, that says 924 hours [20:07] my wife played every prof layton [20:07] she loved it [20:07] esp during her pregnancy [20:07] a facebook friend just said i was looking like pete townshend..do i unfriend him:P [20:08] well, do you? [20:09] no [20:10] more like cross between young gary lineker/gary neville and dj qualls [20:10] depending on how complementary you want to be [20:11] * popey chuckles at silverlight running on that page neuro posted [20:11] yeah, pain in the bum [20:11] works here ☻ [20:12] ish [20:15] neuro: i think he meant this pic http://grarg.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/peteTownsend002.png [20:44] GSOC plans for rainy: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/google/gsoc2013/dynalon/27001 [20:44] i hope he manages them [20:45] Server-side encryption and PostgreSQL support land in Rainy's git, will be in next release: [20:45] sweet [21:00] https://www.dropbox.com/s/t3t0t4fcc6j04qa/basket.JPG [21:00] £666 D: [21:04] I want that cpu+mobo [21:04] *drool* [21:04] sorry, I'm getting your toys all soggy [21:04] ^_^ [21:05] not sure i really want to just yet [21:11] mungbean: I have a nice new setup for encrypted file sync now [21:11] am happy happy [21:11] https://raymii.org/s/articles/Set_up_your_own_truly_secure_encrypted_shared_storage_aka_Dropbox_clone.html [21:28] that is a nice setup [21:28] it is! [21:29] i actually have gpg encrypted files inside the encrypted folder ☻ [21:36] Good evening peeps :)