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Kiloshi theblazehen mazal Tinuva and other lurkers05:13
mazalMore oom05:13
theblazehenhi kilos05:17
mazalAi sorry guys , testing something and need to in and out05:19
Squirmmorning05:49
Squirmso I flashed my S3 last night05:49
Squirmrunning Paranoid Android 3.9705:50
Squirmbased on Android 4.305:50
Kiloshi Squirm 05:56
Kiloshi Snowy 06:28
Kiloswb mazal what you testing?06:30
mazalconky06:35
Kiloswbb07:20
mazalWhat's the command again to see your Ubuntu release name in cli ?07:27
mazalNevermind , found it07:28
inetpromazal: lsb_release -a07:33
inetprogoeie more Kilos07:34
inetprooh and good morning everyone else07:34
Kilosmore inetpro ek dink ek het ian se kde seer gemaak, met daai ban ding07:35
inetproai!07:35
Kilosek het hom gese om all die samba goed wat hy kry te remove07:35
Kilosmaar het nou op my kde gekyk en hom gese wat moet in wees07:36
Kilosso hopelik kom hy nou reg07:36
inetprohmm...07:36
superflyguten morgen07:46
Kiloshi superfly 07:54
superflyhi Kilos07:57
superflyhawkiesza says hi too07:58
Kiloshi hawkiesza07:58
Kiloswassup his irc07:59
Kilosyou the relay goodie superfly 07:59
Kilosrelay goodie=message passer onner07:59
inetprogood morning superfly08:03
inetproKilos: he's the proxy08:04
Kiloshaha ok now i understand it a bit more08:04
superflyhi hi inetpro08:04
Kilosproxyfly08:04
superflyKilos: he just doesn't remember to log into IRC08:04
Kilosah one of those that needs an admin guy to setup stuff to open on boot automatically08:05
Kilosjoking of course08:06
psyatwhi inetpro08:11
psyatwhi Kilos08:11
psyatwhi superfly08:11
Kiloshi psyatw 08:11
superflyhi psyatw08:13
ThatGraemeGuymorning all08:17
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 08:17
charl_good morning08:20
charl_Maaz: coffee on08:20
* Maaz flips the salt-timer08:20
Kiloshi charl_ 08:20
charl_hi psyatw, superfly, Kilos ThatGraemeGuy, inetpro 08:20
Kiloswhy you dragginf tail08:20
Kilosdragging08:20
charl_lol08:20
charl_apparently there is more than one charl on this network :)08:21
psyatwhi charl_08:21
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_!08:24
charl_Maaz: thanks08:27
Maazcharl_: No problem08:27
superflyyo charl_, ThatGraemeGuy08:29
mazalThanx inetpro , I always get confused with uname -r and lasb_release -a08:30
ThatGraemeGuyhi fly08:32
magespawn howdy all08:34
Kiloshi magespawn 08:34
charl_hi magespawn 08:37
charl_hi mazal 08:37
magespawnhey guys, busy chat this morning08:37
mazalHi charl_ and others I haven't greeted yet08:37
psyatwhello magespawn08:38
psyatwhi mazal08:38
psyatwhi Vince-008:38
mazalHow's things going magespawn , haven't seen in long time08:39
Vince-0Haai08:40
Vince-0what's the vaab08:40
magespawngood thanks, been busy driving08:40
Kilos*VAABVanguard Aggressive Age-Based Option (fund performance)08:51
Kilos*VAABVirginia Asian Advisory Board (est. 2001)08:51
Kilos*VAABVisual Artists' Association of Bulawayo (Bulawayo, South Africa)08:51
Kiloshehe08:51
Kilosi hate acronyms08:51
magespawnah why Kilos?08:52
Kilosi can never remember what they stand for08:53
Kilostook a while to member imo08:53
Kilosand imho08:53
magespawni am still not sure with some of them08:54
Kiloshi tumbleweed 08:54
magespawnand yourself mazal? i see from the logs you have been here but not much08:57
charl_what on earth is that vaab08:59
charl_it's going crazy here again today08:59
magespawnvery cool, i always feel a bit .... , when it is very still09:00
Vince-0ha! I mis-spell vibe09:02
magespawnand look at the converstion that results09:03
Kiloshehe09:03
Vince-0I'm a fire starter09:04
KilosMaaz, define vibe09:04
MaazKilos: vibe n 1: a distinctive emotional aura experienced instinctively; "that place gave me bad vibrations"; "it gave me a nostalgic vibe" [syn: {vibration}, {vibe}]09:04
Vince-0ha! bbl09:04
charl_no this retroshare is a mess09:07
charl_i am trying to add theblazehen but it's not working, just says connection in progress and then peer offline09:08
charl_maybe you can only add a friend if they are currently online09:08
charl_i'll try again later09:08
magespawncharl_: might work that way for the intial connection09:09
charl_yeah09:10
charl_it's an entirely peer-to-peer based system, i am not a big fan of that architecture09:10
charl_have you tried it yet?09:10
magespawnno not yet, had my life somewhat turned upside down yesterday09:11
charl_oh no, what happened?09:11
magespawnsomething good, went to quote on a job and got offered a permenant position09:12
charl_oh nice !09:12
charl_congrats09:12
charl_sorry need to go to a meeting bbl09:12
magespawnno worries09:12
mazalmagespawn, very very busy and major changes in my life. Not much time hehehe09:13
Kilosmagespawn, what IT experience are they expecting09:13
magespawna good one?09:14
Kilosand what servers are they using or do you get to choose09:14
Kiloswell you are good man09:14
Kilosalways believe in yourself09:14
magespawnthere is only desktop stuff there at the moment09:14
Kiloswith no network?09:15
Kilosthat will be lekker, you can do everything your way09:15
Kilosmight even get them to host wireless stuff09:16
magespawnthere is a local netwrok with wireless connection to internet through two different channels but not local servers as yet09:16
Kilosand supply cash for towers and the licence bit09:16
Kilosicasa09:16
Kiloswhat distance are they all apart09:16
magespawnnot sure but not far at all09:17
magespawn2km at the most09:17
Kiloslekker09:17
Kilosthis will help with the wireless09:17
magespawnyup in experience if nothing else09:18
Kilosand also they will surely want customers to have connection from the park as well09:18
Kiloswith tablets and so on09:19
Kilosand fancy fones09:19
Kiloswhere are they situated09:20
Kilosin relation to your shop09:20
magespawnjust down the road09:20
ThatGraemeGuycongrats magespawn09:20
ThatGraemeGuyi told you the other day, hang in there, things happen when you least expect them ;-)09:21
magespawnnothing signed and sealed yet, but thanks ThatGraemeGuy09:21
magespawngot very scatter brained today09:23
magespawnme^09:23
Kiloshehe too excited09:24
Trixar_zahttps://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/45011_10151901948619903_847908837_n.jpg09:24
Kiloshaha09:25
Kiloshi Trixar_za 09:25
Trixar_zaHey Kilos09:25
magespawnlol09:26
KilosTrixar_za, why arent you studying with us?09:28
Trixar_zaStudying what exactly?09:28
KilosLPI for starters then python09:28
Kilosjoin #linux-studies09:28
magespawnKilos: is our cheerleader and basher09:29
Kilosbe a good thing to add the LPI certificate to your cv09:29
Kiloshi space drussell 09:45
magespawnlinux-studies chief whip09:49
Kiloswell i want to get to python man09:49
Kiloshard work doing read the docs09:50
Kilosits like if you want your pudding you first gotta eat all your food09:51
magespawnindeed09:52
Kilosclean your plate, there are peeps starving in africa09:53
Kilosso you clean your plate 5 or 6 times a day and they keep starving and you get fat09:54
ThatGraemeGuylol09:54
ThatGraemeGuy"eat all your food, there are kids starving"09:54
ThatGraemeGuy"well let them have my leftovers, everyone wins!"09:55
Kiloshahaha09:55
Tinuvaheh10:09
Tinuvaremember the other day we talking about iftop vs others10:09
Tinuvafound one better10:09
Tinuvatrafshow is now my favourite10:09
Kilosaha10:12
magespawnis it the ubuntu repo?10:12
magespawnin^10:12
Kilosmust be i see it was in lucid10:13
magespawnyup aptitude finds it10:14
Kilosand netdiag might also be useful to clever peeps10:15
charl_Kilos: hold on i thought you _were_ in africa lol10:15
Kilosshows with trafshow in synaptic10:15
charl_that's what europeans tell their kids :P10:15
Kiloslol yeah charl_ 10:15
magespawnseems to be a general thing to tell kids10:16
Kilosoh trafshow comes in netdiag too10:17
KilosE: /var/cache/apt/archives/netdiag_1.0-17_i386.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/trafshow.1.gz', which is also in package trafshow 5.2.3-0ubuntu210:24
Kiloswhat a biz10:25
Kilosthey each have the otherone in10:25
mazalGuys what command will show me how many cores my cpu has ?10:40
Vince-0cat /proc/cpuinfo10:44
Vince-0count starts at 0, so the number of cores and info is shown10:44
mazalThanx Vince-0 ;-)10:46
mazalSystem settings in GUI reports 8 , that reports 410:46
Vince-0i7? its four cores10:47
mazalYep i710:47
mazalWonder why system info shows x810:47
Vince-0multi-threading10:47
mazalAaah ok10:47
mazalDanke10:48
magespawntwo threads per core10:53
mazalDon't have an i5 pc here , just for interest sake , is i5 also 5 cores ?11:03
mazal4 even11:04
Kilosya quad11:36
* Trixar_za is going to miss Richard Stallman tonight :(11:37
Kilosaw wassup11:38
charl_where is he tonight?11:46
charl_Trixar_za: ^^11:46
Trixar_zaIn cape town11:46
Trixar_zaLet me get the location :P11:46
charl_ah ok, he was in johannesburg last night?11:46
charl_nvm i'm 10000 KM away :)11:46
charl_last time i mean11:47
charl_somebody still has to post a video of him, haven't heard anything of that yet11:47
Trixar_zahttp://www.fsf.org/events/20130906-capetown11:48
Trixar_zaNo, I think he's still coming to Jozi11:48
Trixar_zaOh wait, no, that's Durban11:49
charl_http://www.techcentral.co.za/richard-stallman-e-tolls-are-evil/43318/11:49
Trixar_za:P11:49
charl_Added by Duncan McLeod on 31 August 2013.11:49
charl_there's also https://soundcloud.com/pljcbsn/richard-stallman-on-south11:49
charl_added 4 days ago11:50
magespawnthere was also some video of RMS talking about e tolls11:50
charl_please post link if you have it11:50
magespawnlet me search11:51
Vince-0yooh, using sound cloud to distribute RMS audio. Doubt he'd be happy about that. Does soundcloud use free codecs?11:52
charl_Vince-0: no idea11:53
charl_there is a link from the above post to an ogg file11:53
charl_probably just uploaded the ogg file11:54
Vince-0at least the techcentral article links an ogg file11:54
charl_pity there is no video11:54
charl_what is this, 10 years ago ?!11:54
Vince-0Durban's got a serious A/V system planned11:54
charl_that's good to hear11:54
charl_at least they have their stuff together :)11:54
Vince-0UKZN anyways11:54
Trixar_zaTrouble with RMS is that his ideas are deceptively attractive11:55
Trixar_zaAdded by Duncan McLeod on 31 August 2013.11:56
Trixar_zaHehehe11:56
=== deegee is now known as drussell
Trixar_zaI'd watch out for him with a sword11:56
Trixar_zaHe might try to cut off your head to gain your power so he can become the one11:56
Vince-0ha11:57
charl_what ?!11:59
charl_rms or duncan ?11:59
magespawnTHERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!11:59
magespawncharl_: i cannot seem to find it at the moment, but one of the others did post it in the channel12:00
charl_sounds like that old jet li film12:00
magespawni have to go get fish12:00
magespawnHighlander12:00
magespawn1980 something12:00
magespawnbbl12:00
Trixar_zaYeah, old Highlander reference12:01
Trixar_zanot the TV series, because that featured Michael McLoed12:01
Trixar_zaThey did do a cross-over where Michael and Duncan met though12:02
charl_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0267804/12:02
mazalBye everyone12:52
smile:DD13:00
magespawncharl_: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091203/?ref_=sr_113:32
Trixar_zaOh my bad13:36
Trixar_zaDuncan was from the TV series13:36
Trixar_zahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_MacLeod13:36
charl_oh ok i've never seen highlander13:52
ThatGraemeGuyheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere we are! born to be kiiiiiings we're the princes of the uuuuniveeeerse!!13:56
smileThatGraemeGuy: are we? :p13:56
* ThatGraemeGuy cuts off smile's head13:56
* smile feels that something's missing13:57
smile:p13:57
magespawnsmile we are talking about the highlander movie ;)\13:58
Kilosi thought you were all to young to have watched the highlander13:59
smile:DD13:59
smileI'm to young, as you can see :)13:59
Kilosyeah14:00
magespawnnah one of my favorite movies14:00
Kilosand charl_ 14:00
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJ8lpCQbyw14:02
Kilosthe series was also good14:04
ThatGraemeGuyyeah14:08
ThatGraemeGuysuddenly i'm listening to some Queen :)14:08
charl_hi smile 14:10
charl_long time no speak to, how's it going14:10
smilegood! :D14:10
charl_how is the weather in belgium today14:11
charl_in nl it is very hot14:11
smilehot, too :)14:11
charl_30 degrees right now where i am14:11
smileI think it's even more here :p14:11
charl_i am fortunate to sit in a building with air conditioning14:11
smile:DD14:11
charl_i will wait until late before going home :P14:11
smileand I'm fortunate to sit on the east side of the building ;)14:11
charl_6km on the bicycle to my apartment14:12
smileand not on the south :)14:12
smilequite sportive :DD14:12
charl_yes i am also sitting on the good side14:12
smileDo you know Gambas? :)14:14
charl_garnalen?14:15
charl_had to google it first :)14:15
charl_oh wait and this: http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html14:16
smile:DD14:16
charl_bah i used to program in qbasic14:16
charl_if you could even call that programming14:16
smilequickbasic? :p14:16
charl_but now we're going 15+ years ago14:16
charl_according to the wikipedia it's "Microsoft Quick Beginners All purpose Symbolic Instruction Code"14:17
smilexD14:17
charl_the screenshot looks familiar: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/01/QBasic_Opening_Screen.png14:17
smileGambas3 is cooler :D14:17
charl_bah why not just learn python instead14:17
charl_i mean it didn't even have a while loop only a for14:18
charl_and you had to use gotos14:18
charl_disgusting14:18
charl_i used to hate it thats why i moved to c++14:18
charl_we didn't have python back then :(14:18
charl_you kids are too spoiled these days :P14:18
smileI use it because GTK/Qt interface is great :D14:18
smile:)14:19
smileAnd because lazy programming take less time :p14:19
smile* takes less time14:19
charl_less time to write and more time to maintain14:19
charl_python strikes a nice balance14:19
charl_the force should be in balance, luke14:19
charl_the source, the source should be in balance, use the source!14:20
smilecharl_: :DD14:20
smileI need to improve/learn more C++14:20
charl_you must defeat Darth Coder!14:21
charl_qt is great with c++14:21
charl_that's the only place where i ever used the qt framework14:21
charl_but that was a number of years ago before nokia bought it14:21
charl_back then it was still being developed by trolltech14:21
charl_oh, it's actually owned by digia now, didn't know14:23
smileI did know that :D14:25
smileGtk+ is great with Vala? ;)14:25
charl_looking at vala now for the first time14:26
charl_didn't even realise that existed14:26
charl_does indeed look a lot like c#14:27
charl_not too big a fan of all the syntactical sugar14:28
charl_i would much rather just have java14:28
magespawni remember QBasic, still have a book on that on my shelf14:29
charl_magespawn: shame on you, throw it away this instant :)14:30
* charl_ pukes all over the channel floor14:30
* smile is away14:40
* magespawn gets out a mop and bucket14:49
magespawnwas not so bad really, but would not like to do anything complex with it14:50
charl_lol14:55
magespawnmonochrome snake was about it15:07
=== psyatw1 is now known as psyatw
magespawnlater all15:51
Kiloslater magespawn 15:51
Kiloshi Vince-0 15:58
Vince-0hii15:59
nuvolarialoha16:21
nuvolarilo Vince-0, oom Kilos16:21
nuvolarikbmonkey: ping16:21
Vince-0haai16:21
Kiloshi nuvolari 16:22
Kilosmonkey not here16:22
* nuvolari is packing his cheerleading gear16:22
Kilosfor?16:22
nuvolariRMS oom Kilos 16:22
Kiloslol16:22
Vince-0nuvolari: so UKZN has an eletricity problem today16:23
Vince-0if they can't fix it by tomorrow eve we're stuffed16:23
nuvolari... >;(16:23
Vince-0ya16:23
nuvolariVince-0: does RMS runs on batteries?16:23
nuvolari:P16:23
Vince-0sussing backup options16:23
Kiloslol16:23
nuvolariack, got to run16:24
nuvolaribbl16:24
Kilosk16:24
nuvolarikbmonkey: I'll be back16:24
nuvolarineed to plan the our roadtrip16:25
Vince-0can meet me in Umhlanga and take it from there16:25
Vince-0I might need to pick up RMS at the airport16:25
nuvolariI can only leave just after 15:00 :(16:28
nuvolariok, bbl for real16:28
magespawni got the job16:47
Kiloswell done magespawn  long congrats16:48
Kiloscoffe and rusks on you16:48
magespawnIndeed16:48
magespawnWas a bit stressful before i got the confirmation16:49
Kilosim happy for you16:50
magespawnThank you Kilos16:50
Vince-0ey! where's that16:50
magespawnBig changes with nes chalanges16:51
Kiloshulehule16:51
magespawnBonamanzi Game Park16:51
Kilosnes?16:51
Vince-0on naas16:51
Vince-0beautiful place16:51
Vince-0Bonamanzi its Zulu name, meaning "Look, Water!"16:53
Kilosyeah16:54
Kilosfunny name hey16:54
Kiloslotsa water all over natal16:54
magespawni will be the only 'computer' person on the reserve/farm17:07
Kiloshaha so no arguing17:07
Kilosyou can argue with us17:07
magespawnlol and get lots of 'ai'17:08
Kilosrofl ya17:08
Kiloswhat are you classed as now magespawn ceo of IT services17:15
Kilosmust we say sir magespawn 17:15
theblazehenLol kilos17:16
theblazehenBTW hi17:16
Kiloshi theblazehen 17:16
charl_hi back17:24
charl_got retroshare working with theblazehen earlier17:24
charl_once you've got friends added it seems to work really well17:24
charl_have only tried it for text messaging yet17:24
nuvolaricongrats magespawn 17:28
nuvolari!17:28
nuvolariis the monkey in yet?17:28
nuvolarikbmonkey: ping ping ping17:29
Kilosnope17:29
Kiloshi sakhi 17:32
Kilosstranger17:32
charl_hi sakhi 17:33
charl_you at the uwc? used to work there17:33
magespawnty nuvolari 17:51
magespawnnot quite Kilos 17:52
Kiloswell if you the only pc oke there you must be the head of that depo17:53
magespawndep of one17:53
Kilossame as ian17:54
magespawnchief cook and bottle washer17:54
Kiloslol yeah17:54
Kilosand you cant pass the buck17:54
Kiloshehe17:54
magespawnyup indeed, no passing anything17:55
Kilosfringe tonight on the idiot box17:55
Kilosyou can blame me, i got broad shoulders17:56
magespawnpay you a consult fee17:57
Kiloshas their side got moving stuffs on that eat data? or just some pics17:57
magespawnthere a lot i think, flash, i think17:57
magespawncan't really remember17:57
Kilosoh against stlucia lake18:03
Kilosare there still hippos and crocs there18:03
Kilosand you can catch sharks 2 ks from the beach18:04
Kilosi think they were zambezi sharks18:04
Kilosnuvolari, apie jol man18:06
nuvolariwa jol hy oom Kilos ?18:06
Kilosek weet nie18:06
Kilosmissed call of sms hom18:07
magespawnKilos: lots of hippos and croc, it is now the isiMangaliso wetland park18:09
Kilosaha18:10
magespawnor iSimangaliso, not sure about that18:10
Kiloswhatever18:10
Kilosfished up and down that estuary by skiboat almost nighly for 6 months18:11
Kilossjoe dunno if you were born yet18:12
Kilosian was 318:13
magespawnthere is good fishing there lately, or so i hear18:13
magespawnnot a big fisherman18:14
Kilosgood way to forget there is a world around you18:16
Kilosespecially when they biting well18:16
magespawni will take your word for it18:28
Kiloshaha18:34
Kilosnight all of ya. lurkers too19:09
Kilossee you tomorrow19:09
magespawngood night all, remember tomorrow 20:00 #linux-studies19:26

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