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OerHeksMACscr, what is the output of your card in " lspci " ?00:00
ibanezrawkerGabboz, it happens before i can log in. Its in dual boot mode, but i cant log in to it00:00
Gabbozibanezrawker, does ubuntu behave properly if you were to boot it from cd/usb?00:01
lonewulf85Hello need assistance with My netbook not dimming00:01
abaddonwhiptail, Huh, somehow removed xserver-xorg....00:01
MACscrOerHeks: InfiniBand [0c06]: Mellanox Technologies MT26418 [ConnectX VPI PCIe 2.0 5GT/s - IB DDR / 10GigE] [15b3:6732] (rev a0)00:01
abaddonwhiptail, oops00:01
wilee-nilee!details } lonewulf8500:01
ubottuwilee-nilee: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:01
wilee-nilee !details | lonewulf8500:01
ubottulonewulf85: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."00:01
ibanezrawkerGabboz, i have not tried that yet. What difference would that make?00:02
Gabbozibanezrawker, it will determine whether your HDD install is corrupt.  If it happens with a live boot then it might be a video compatibility issue.00:02
techkid6Apparently.. FIrefox doesn't even print the dates00:02
whiptailabaddon, the instructions shouldnt mess you up, but it does remove alot of things00:02
wilee-nileelonewulf85, Ubuntu release, desktop, computer and hardware go along way.00:02
techkid6Meaning I only have to edit the one DOM Element in there which has the date-accessed and I am set00:03
lonewulf85I have ubuntu 12.04 x64 lts when I use my hardware control it dims it by maybe 20%00:03
abaddonwhiptail,  Noo, when I purged fglrx. XD00:03
techkid6thanks for all the help00:03
ibanezrawkerGabboz, Ok, then how do i take it off of my computer if it is corrupt?00:03
MACscrah, nevermind, it seems the install script actually even mentions ubuntu in it. I thought the install script i found was a third party, but this is the one made by mellanox00:03
lonewulf85My PC is an acer aspire one AO72200:03
whiptailabaddon, phew :]00:03
abaddonwhiptail,  Yeesh I get too triger happy with removing stuff00:04
Gabbozibanezrawker, one step at a time.. go try my suggestion00:04
dougielI installed 13.04 on sda then I added a harddrive and install win7 on sdb (sdb1) then I installed 13.04 on sdb5 I let the installer adjust partition table/size and now I want to install grub on sdb but I keep getting "source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory" can someone clear up what I am missing?00:05
ibanezrawkerOk Gabboz, ill try it. I'll be back in a few.00:05
abaddonwhiptail, thanks again =]00:06
dr_willisdougiel:  so you have 2 installs of 13.04  on the same system?00:06
dr_willisdougiel:  and how are you trying to reinstall grub exactly?00:07
dougieldr_willis, YES for now but I am gonna delete the first one00:07
ecivis there a way to do rpm -ql <package> on ubuntu? it lists which files were installed where by package00:07
dougielsudo grub-install /dev/sdb00:07
dr_willisdougiel:  id try the boot-repair tool and you may need to give grub-install some extra options like the error message said00:08
dr_willisdougiel:  you are running that from the 2nd (newer install) ?00:08
chaotic_gooddeadline scheduler disk io  boon OR BAIN>?00:08
aracnidohola00:08
dougielI am gonna reformat sda and use sdb (one is 5400 and new one is 7200) yes from newer install00:08
OerHeksMACscr, good luck, a quick search did not get me usefull info.00:09
dr_willischaotic_good:  you mean 'bane' ? and i imagine it depends on your ussage of the pc.00:09
chaotic_goodoops00:09
chaotic_goodwas in mitt romney mode again00:09
wilee-nileedougiel, You might just use supergrub to boot to it and fix it from the desktop00:09
chaotic_goodlots of mysql types say deadline disk io scheduler is better m0ar00:09
TeamRocket1233cI think n00b is more offensive than newbie, IMO.00:09
dougielwilee-nilee, i CAN boot both installs... everything works00:09
dougielbut I need to format the 5400rpm and re-appropriate it00:10
dougielbut that is from the first install00:10
dougielof grub00:10
moderatorhola00:10
wilee-nileedougiel, That install being run from the dsb install as dr_willis asked?00:11
wilee-nileesdb*00:11
ibanezrawkerGabboz, i cant find the wubi file on Windows.00:11
Gabbozibanezrawker, did the live distro boot without issue or not? let's leave wubi out of this(since you never mentioned it).....00:12
dougielwilee-nilee, the one I am in now is running from sdb5 install00:12
wilee-nileedougiel, That a gpt formatted drive perchance, or at one time?00:13
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ibanezrawkerGabboz, i used wubi to try to get Ubuntu. The live distro didnt work either.00:13
Gabbozibanezrawker, then you have other problems to conquer first.00:13
dougielgpt=? sda was win7 when I bought the notebook and sdb was brandnew then windows'd then 13.04'd00:14
dr_willisdougiel:  tried a sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc yet?00:14
reisiodougiel: a way a drive can be partitioned00:14
wilee-nileeibanezrawker, The wubi install would be in the add remove of windows control if you need to remove it.00:15
dougieldr_willis, not yet lookd at all the google results and came crying in here to you guys00:15
dougielreisio, gparted?00:15
ibanezrawkerGabboz, ok00:15
reisiodougiel: is a GUI fronted to parted, a partitioning app00:16
dougielreisio, thanks... brb00:16
SupaYoshihey guys00:21
reisiohey supa00:21
SupaYoshiIm having some trouble mounting a NTFS partition in Ubuntu 12.04 server00:21
reisioSupaYoshi: what kind of trouble00:21
SupaYoshiIts a 3TB drive, and i can mount it just fine on an older Ubuntu Desktop version downstairs00:21
SupaYoshifrom console.00:21
SupaYoshiIve read through Google, and it seems that people had it also, but i get the following message:00:22
SupaYoshiNTFS signature is missing. | Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Invalid argument |The device '/dev/sdb1' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.00:22
SupaYoshiWhich is not true ;)00:22
dr_willisSupaYoshi:  check 'sudo blkid' to make sure you are using the right device00:22
dr_willisSupaYoshi:  also its not a truecrypt or any other soort of fancy partion is it?00:23
delinquentmesoooo if I have a user on a linux box ... but no corresponding file in /home/00:23
delinquentmewas that user created incorrectly?00:23
SupaYoshiit aint listed there?00:23
SupaYoshinah nothign fancy00:23
tgm4883delinquentme, maybe their home is elsewhere00:23
dr_willisdelinquentme:  thers special users that dont have a home. some services00:23
dr_willisSupaYoshi:  could be its on a differnt /dev/XXX location00:23
tgm4883delinquentme, how did you create the user?00:23
SupaYoshimhm, yeah00:23
SupaYoshii can see all the partitions on the first drive though wiht that00:24
delinquentmeoic!00:24
SupaYoshifdisk -l shows me its the correct one.00:24
dr_willisSupaYoshi:  this is an external usb hd?00:24
SupaYoshiIt used to be, it is now in my HP Microserver00:24
SupaYoshi3 TB Western Digital drive ;P00:24
dr_willisso its now on the sata or ide port?00:24
SupaYoshiIts now just connected to sata00:24
SupaYoshishows up at fdisk -l as a sdb1 drive00:25
dr_willisthat would be weird that sudo bllkid is not showing it00:25
SupaYoshihehe yeah,00:25
dr_willisunless it really is a currupted r somewhat messed up filesystem00:25
SupaYoshinahh i just formatted it, cus i thought it was00:25
SupaYoshion windows its all fine btw00:25
SupaYoshiI backuped the files, and formatted it00:25
SupaYoshiits pretty new, not old at all00:25
dr_willison windows - i would have windows  filesystem check the drive00:25
SupaYoshimhm.00:26
dr_williswhats the exact mounting command you are using?00:26
SupaYoshiwell i tried a few00:26
SupaYoshi. /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk1/ ntfs-3g default 0 000:26
SupaYoshithis one works downstairs with the older ubuntu :)00:27
napscntfsfix00:27
dr_williswell assumeing the device is correct. then the error message indicatged that somthing is weird with the filesystem00:27
dr_willisif theres data on the drive. i would have windows check the disk00:28
SupaYoshimh mmhm mhm00:28
SupaYoshintfsfix says volume is corrupt00:28
SupaYoshiIm going to dlete the partition with diskpart00:29
SupaYoshiand recreate it00:29
SupaYoshisee what happens00:29
SupaYoshibrb00:29
reisio:/00:29
FloodBot1SupaYoshi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:29
reisiois there data on it that you want?00:29
SupaYoshisorry bout that, habbit. data is backed up alraedy00:29
reisioah, then yeah just remake it00:29
SupaYoshi:3 thnx00:29
reisiopreferably not as an FS designed only for an OS you don't use00:29
SupaYoshicleaning disk00:33
SupaYoshiim starting to hate NTFS but im better with it then ext4 especially since I can connect this to Wiundows so00:33
duoiSupaYoshi: youre able to mount ext4 on Windows00:34
SupaYoshireally? easy?00:34
dr_willisi wouldent trust windows accessing ext* drives a lot. ;) but for quick access.. (read only) it should be ok.00:35
jastormHOLA00:37
reisioshalom00:37
SupaYoshimhm thats odd...00:39
SupaYoshithe disk is divided in2 parts00:39
SupaYoshi700 GB and 2000 GB ....00:40
SupaYoshiAnd I cannot make it 1 disk ? lol00:40
LudovikThis might seem like a silly sort of question but I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a really minimalist Windows Classic sort of desktop manager. I'm just using Gnome 3 and its bloaty as hell and I can't seem to get rid of the obnoxious right hand panel.00:40
SupaYoshisorry for spamming... sorry guys, i was just kinda excited. sorry for that..00:40
ianorlinlxde?00:40
reisioSupaYoshi: is it in a laptop?00:40
reisioSupaYoshi: or an external enclosure?00:40
SupaYoshireisio, no a pc. external nclosure yes,00:40
reisioLudovik: LXDE or Xfce, yup00:41
SupaYoshiI am just going to try formatting it with gparted :P00:41
SupaYoshibrb...00:41
LudovikI'm going to take a look and see if I can figure out how to install them.00:41
reisioSupaYoshi: 700+2000 is odd, but multiple disks pretending to be one isn't entirely out of the question for an enclosure, particularly an old one00:41
SupaYoshiits pretty new...00:41
SupaYoshi201300:41
reisioLudovik: lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop00:41
reisioLudovik: by default Xubuntu is configured to look more like Mac OS, though, but that's easily changed00:42
reisioSupaYoshi: 2013? That's old! :p00:42
LudovikSo I can just install Lubuntu from my Gnome session and then login to that desktop manager?00:44
reisioand there's an old Xfce/GTK+2 window theme out there called 'redmond', I believe00:44
MACscrim running a newer kernel on ubuntu 12.04 than what is normally available, how can I temporarily downgrade the kernel so that i can hopefully get this compile to work?00:44
reisioLudovik: yes00:44
reisioLudovik: if you decide you prefer one you might want to remove some of the GNOME/Unity stuff afterwards00:44
LudovikI find it's hard to remove software since most of the weight comes from the dependencies and full remove doesn't seem to remove them.00:45
reisioit can be, but this is a common task that people know about :)00:45
ianorlinapt-get autoremove can remove unnescary dependacies00:45
reisiohttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu00:45
LudovikMan, you guys are awesome.00:46
ianorlinisn't there also a lubuntu one of that?00:46
reisioyeah there is00:46
LudovikDownloading Lubuntu now.00:46
ianorlinhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu00:47
reisioLudovik: you can just install it, it's just a set of packages00:48
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yugandharHi Guys, What is the irc chat for Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud?00:56
vantageHi, is there an easy way to share a desktop between two ubuntu machines that are both behind routers?01:00
SupaYoshiyay01:01
delinquentmevantage, you just need port forwarding and some remote desktop tool01:01
SupaYoshiformatting with gpt and 3 tb partittion with gparted did the trick01:01
SupaYoshiits mounted and well ;) yay01:01
vantagedelinquentme: Anyway to do it without port forwarding?01:01
duoiVantage: have you tried teamviewer or some other remote desktop tool?01:01
reisiovantage: share?01:01
reisiosynergy could work01:01
vantageI'm trying to help my mom with her ubuntu machine, but can't without seeing her desktop. Setting up port forwarding on her end would be even more difficult. Any suggestions on the easiest way to do this?01:02
Johnny_Linuxphone01:04
chris____hey guys01:04
ryan_turner|MTWHi, can anyone help me troubleshoot getting touchscreen to work on a Lenovo IdeaPad Z400?01:05
whiptailvantage, maybe chrome remote desktop01:06
vantagehrmm synergy requires port forwarding.. Looking at chrome remote desktop now01:07
ryan_turner|MTWOk, touchscreen now magically works, but I can't "click" anything01:08
ryan_turner|MTWI can move the cursor around01:08
ryan_turner|MTWbut no clicks01:08
ryan_turner|MTWhow do I customize touchscreen behavior?01:08
OerHeksryan_turner|MTW, you might have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/118088101:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1180881 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) "Touchscreen only works after suspend/resume on Lenovo ideapad P400 Touch" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:11
ryan_turner|MTWOerHeks yeah, took about 4 cycles01:12
ryan_turner|MTWbut now Im able to at least move the cursor01:12
ryan_turner|MTWjust dont know how to click :P01:12
MACscrwhats the current kernel for LTS?01:12
acu2hello guys - I have a computer which gets internet through USB, I want to make that computer push the data through Network Card such that I connect it to the internet port of my router - that way any computer connected to router will have access through internet, can anyone tell me how to do that ?01:13
ryan_turner|MTWOh hey! Multitouch gestures work!01:13
ryan_turner|MTW3 finger touch, 4 finger touch01:14
ryan_turner|MTWstill cant figure out how to get the touch screen to "right click" the cursor lol01:15
ryan_turner|MTWerr I mean "left click" *01:15
wilee-nileeacu2, Th?e usb wireless01:15
wilee-nileethe*01:15
james__French Bread Pizza Rules!!!!!! Who Is With Me!!!??????01:15
acu2wilee-nilee, yes01:16
james__French Bread Pizza Rules!!!!!! Who Is With Me!!!??????01:16
wilee-nileeacu2, And who's is it?01:16
acu2it is t-mobile hot-spot zet01:16
acu2zte01:16
zinkeldonkbot invite01:19
wilee-nileeacu2, who's wifi is it are you privy to it?01:19
dr_willis!isc | acu301:19
dr_willis!isc01:19
whiptailacu2,create a wireless bridge if you can01:19
dr_willis!ics01:19
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing01:19
dr_willisrouter  wan port plugged into the pc. and set up ics and dhcp on the pc01:20
acu2dr_willis, what is ics ?01:21
dr_willissee what ubottu  said01:22
dr_willisinternet connection shareing01:22
daftykins-e01:22
Celso_hey people, will Radeon dynamic power management support support my ati card hd5000 series on the open source driver?01:33
Celso_on the kernel 3.11?01:33
Johnny_LinuxCelso_,   http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_dpm_mix&num=101:36
Johnny_Linuxthat simple to find01:36
Celso_Johnny_Linux Well, i am using ati hd 5470 but dont mention my card. is there any website that curently shows all supported cards, or some release notes from amd?01:39
Johnny_Linuxits not up to date afaik01:39
Johnny_Linuxim using hd3000 series, works excellent01:40
Celso_cool01:40
Celso_i need to investigate more01:40
Celso_thanks for the help01:41
Johnny_Linuxnp01:41
Celso_and effort01:41
Celso_by the way, is the FPS and gaming the same as the proprietary driver?01:42
Johnny_Linuxnot sure01:42
Johnny_Linuxi dont game01:42
Johnny_Linuxbut, i get 70 fps anywy01:42
Celso_oh ok thanks :D01:42
DeWitt_7testing....01:43
TheLordOfTimeDeWitt_7, test failed.01:44
TheLordOfTime!test > DeWitt_701:44
ubottuDeWitt_7, please see my private message01:44
DeWitt_7Sorry, kind of a newb.  The last channel I was in wouldn't post.  Don't hate me.01:45
MACscri want to load a different kernel at boot, i currently have 3 installed. How the heck am i supposed to know what kernel is what number so i can set it in /etc/default/grub?01:46
reisioMACscr: the files are likely versioned01:47
reisioMACscr: in /boot/01:47
MACscrright, you just set them as 0,1, or 2, etc, right?01:47
reisioMACscr: hrmm?01:48
MACscrin default/grub, you pick the kernel by a number like i just mentioned01:49
MACscrnot the actual kernel name or version01:49
Ari-Yangyes01:49
MACscrso again, how do i know what kernel is what number?01:49
Ari-Yangif you have 3 current kernels and want to go back to lets say your previous, set it to 101:50
Ari-Yang0 is your latest01:50
Ari-Yang1 is the one before that, and so on01:50
MACscrok01:50
MACscrso its always that order no matter when they were installed?01:50
Ari-YangMACscr, type this in terminal: gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg01:51
Ari-YangMACscr, it has all kernel versions01:51
Ari-Yangthe first version you see is equal to 001:52
Ari-Yangthe one followed by that is 101:52
Ari-Yangand so on01:52
Ari-YangI think you can also check out the list of kernels by looking at the GRUB menu on boot01:52
MACscrits a reboot server, so i dont have the luxury of a boot menu. Ok, so i just need to read the poorly setup grub.cfg and count my entries until i get the right one?01:53
MACscrman, i miss the old grub where everything was in a simple file with only a few entries01:54
Ari-YangMACscr, I guess....01:54
Ari-YangMACscr, lets say you have 3 kernels, your first one you ever installed is 3.1, then 3.2, and then 3.3.... So then in the grub file, 0 is equal to your latest, 3.301:55
MACscrwas entry 401:55
Ari-Yangif you want to boot kernel 3.1 you'd set it to 201:55
Ari-Yangget it?01:55
MACscri don think thats right, you have take recovery kernels into place as well01:56
Ari-Yangafaik, no01:56
Ari-Yang:|01:56
MACscrmy entry appeared to be 4, for kernel 3.201:56
MACscri was running 3.8 and 3.5 was installed before that01:56
MACscr3.2 didnt exist until i just installed it01:56
Ari-YangI read this somewhere, same info I gave to you I told someone else and they were successful01:57
Ari-Yangnothing about recovery kernels01:57
Ari-Yang*shrugs*01:57
Ari-Yangexperiment, gl01:57
MACscri dont understand why they felt the need to overcomplicate things01:57
MACscrgrr, forgot i need to run sudo update-grub in addition to that change01:58
MACscrinteresting, looks like you can actually do: GRUB_DEFAULT="Previous Linux versions>Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-18-generic"02:00
Celso_well, guys, i want to install the 3.11 kernel, and idont know wich file i should install on this website (  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/  )  Can someone tell me wich ones should i download?02:04
reisioCelso_: why do you want to install it?02:05
Celso_reisio , to make use of the new open source driver from amd.  i have an ati hd5470 and would like to use only the open source driver.02:06
reisioCelso_: amd64 ones should do02:07
Celso_only those 2? nothing more?02:08
Ari-YangCelso_, are you running on 64bit?02:08
Celso_yes02:08
Levi__ok so does anybody have a question i can answer02:08
ianorlin!ask02:08
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:08
Celso_lubuntu 13.04 64 bit02:08
Ari-YangCelso_, you'd get the amd64 then02:09
Ari-Yangtechnically all you need is the image amd6402:09
Celso_thanks guys02:09
Ari-Yangbut I recommend get both headers and headers all02:09
Ari-Yangand ofc the image02:09
Ari-YangCelso_, you installing this for DPM?02:09
Celso_yep02:09
Ari-YangCelso_, if you are I recommend http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/2013-09-04-saucy/02:10
Ari-Yanginstead02:10
Celso_why?02:10
Ari-YangI think it's up-to-date02:10
Ari-Yanglike latest changes for the better is put in that directory02:10
Ari-Yangthat's what I got, though I don't have the one they released today (the one I linked)02:10
Ari-YangCelso_, I recommend you grab the one I link :T02:11
Ari-Yangafk, Celso_ let me know how it works out, highlight me (pm me in case I'm still afk)02:11
Celso_Ari-Yang well, they only have 40 min of diference.02:11
Celso_Ari-Yang ok ok02:12
Celso_by the way, how do i pm you? sory but i am kind of a noob :P02:12
Celso_And thanks reisio!02:13
ChuchoHola02:14
reisioshalom02:14
ChuchoAlguien me podria ayudar para instalar ubuntu? tengo una duda02:14
nerdtrondoes anybody know why XChat closes itself after a few minutes it is minimized in the system tray?02:14
whiptailit doesnt normally02:14
Levi__Hello02:14
nerdtroni mean i closed the window, it is in the system tray and is very easy to bring up, but after 30 mins or so, it the program will completely close02:14
sudormrfHey all... I am trying to install ubuntu on an HP Envy x2 -- anyone have experience with this?02:15
ChuchoAnybody can help me, i want to install ubuntu in my pc, byt i dont speak good english, thnx.02:15
Levi__I dont but i could help you through it02:15
reisiosudormrf: you?02:15
nerdtronChucho, what is your problem?02:15
MACscrAri-Yang: yep, it worked by just specifying the actual kernel as i mentioned. Sweet.02:15
Chuchonerdtron can u talk with my in private?02:16
reisioChucho: #ubuntu-es ?02:16
ianorlin!pm02:16
ubottuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.02:16
Chuchooh thanks reisio02:16
Chuchoim new on this sorry02:16
reisioChucho: you should be sorry! People who are new to things make me sick! :p02:17
whiptailChucho, how far have you got?02:17
Anon-749270I'm back, on my phone. Ubuntu 13.04 with rtl8111/8168 rev 06 Ethernet on my motherboard not working. Ready to try any commands and troubleshoot. :)02:18
Hodappis there some reason that on this Ubuntu 13.04 installation I just did, 'hostname' is not reflecting what is in /etc/hostname?02:19
nerdtronHodapp, edit the /etc/hostname02:19
nerdtronHodapp, sudo service hostname restart then log out and log back in02:19
HodappUnknown job: hostname02:20
nerdtronHodapp, that's ok, log out and log in again02:21
Hodappnerdtron: I've tried this already, and it's still reporting localhost.02:21
nerdtronwhat is your /etc/hostname? and also edit the /etc/hosts02:22
Hodapp/etc/hostname just has the hostname in it.02:22
nerdtronHodapp, /etc/hosts the line 127.0.1.1"hostname"02:23
Hodappand I've edited /etc/hosts to contain another line associating the same with 127.0.1.1 - as some other guides suggested.02:23
nerdtronyou should also change it02:23
Hodapplast I checked, though, /etc/hosts is irrelevant to what 'hostname' reports.02:24
HodappI can run 'hostname blah' and then it updates it, however, in such a manner that it's reset upon reboot.02:25
sudormrfreisio, besides me. :-p02:26
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Anon-749270I'm running into a bug that's over 5 years old -- poor support for Realtek Ethernet. Rtl8111/8168. It's built into my gigabyte motherboard. Most seem to have sporadic issues, but for me it's just always off in Ubuntu 13.04. I think it works in centos 6 and mint 11.02:33
xmetaleither i am lagging here or it's quiet in here02:37
taihsiangAnon-749270, have you ever tried 8168 dkms?? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+package/r8168-dkms02:38
LinuxGolddeadly quiet02:38
Cryptorchildnope you're lag :v02:38
ntzrmtthihu777Heyo. Putting together a multi-iso boot usb with grub2, have some kinks to work out. I installed grub to it, configured menuentries for a few isos, popped it into my laptop that needs boot repair (botched arch install), and it drops to a grub rescue prompt, complaining about it cant find a disc with a certain uuid (/dev/sda1 on this machine, where I made the usb; not the uuid of the usb device). Bit of reasearc into the contents of th02:43
AcidRain2012hmmm... sounds like you need to restart and set the uuid of the disc to the one that you will be using02:45
AcidRain2012or, perhaps you could check fstab?02:45
AcidRain2012then again, idk anything about making the usb you are talking about. ;)02:45
xmetalhmm arch? .. now people have me curious about that distro, lol02:45
ntzrmtthihu777AcidRain2012: afaik the usb has no fstab; and I modified that file to set the uuid to match the fat32 partitions.02:45
bazzeri'm trying to boot an ubuntu live cd over the network...my pxe server is working fine as i can do an automated preseed install but as far as the live cd it hangs trying to get a dhcp address during the boot process....any ideas?02:45
xmetalmay try it in vm when i get a chance02:45
ntzrmtthihu777xmetal: its not for the faint of heart, or those afraid of the terminal ;)02:46
legend123HI there. Is there a way to record audio cd to a file in terminal?02:47
xmetaloh heck, the terminal is not an issue for me ... the reason some other (will not name them, since that is OT) distros are a pain is the 100 dependencies they need02:47
xmetallol02:47
xmetalanyone bbl02:47
AcidRain2012ntzrmtthihu777, oh my bad. i thought you were saying when you remove the usb, and boot the machine with the installed OS, it complained about not being able to find the uuid of the drive on another machine (a drive not in the machine the OS was installed on)02:47
ntzrmtthihu777legend123: yep. mount the iso, then you can use mplayer or sommat.02:48
ntzrmtthihu777legend123: erm, not iso, but you get the idea. unless you're trying to copy the cd to iso, then a quick dd will do you wonders ;)02:48
AcidRain2012ya sry man. i never could get a usb to boot a 'live cd'02:49
ntzrmtthihu777AcidRain2012: not all that hard once you get the principles down.02:49
AcidRain2012perhaps ill try it one day again. as for me. i want every users first experience with ubuntu+cinnamon to be great. i cant risk it with a usb02:50
AcidRain2012lol02:50
SiecjeI changed the motherboard in my computer and it wont start02:51
Siecjewon't turn on02:51
wilee-nileeSiecje, #hardware02:51
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wilee-nilee##hardware actually02:51
abaddonOK, I've been trying to install the proprietary ATI drivers from the repo. Everything works but when I try to launch amdcccle it doesn't start. I checked fglrxinfo and it gave me errors so I tried running sudo amdconfig --initial and that comes up with an error. What am I doing wrong? Ubu 121002:53
ntzrmtthihu777wilee-nilee: so, tell me you're a grub wizart *prays*02:53
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guzzlefryQuick question I think. Which php5-* module has the MySQLi stuff?02:54
ntzrmtthihu777abaddon: known error, methinks. check the exec line in the amdccle.desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ and launch manually with gksu/kdesu <listed command>02:54
AcidRain2012System program problem detected02:55
AcidRain2012never a good message to see02:55
abaddonntzrmtthihu777, The file doesn't exist02:56
ntzrmtthihu777guzzlefry: apt-cache search php | grep -i mysqli?02:56
ntzrmtthihu777abaddon: may be a different name. run ls /usr/share/application-registry/ | grap -i amd02:57
abaddonntzrmtthihu777,  grap or grep??02:58
ntzrmtthihu777abaddon: erm, grep, lol. typo02:59
AcidRain2012ok. back to the same old issue ive been having. in firefox. when i click on a torrent link, it asks me to save it. this is not what i want to do. it also gives me the options to open with another program.  NO programs are listed. where is the transmission binary file located? perhaps if i browse to it, firefox will remember my selection and start opening torrent with transmission02:59
daftykinsgrape!02:59
abaddonntzrmtthihu777,  nothing happened with that.03:00
ntzrmtthihu777abaddon: grep fglrx?03:01
abaddonntzrmtthihu777,  nothing happened with that ether. =/03:02
ntzrmtthihu777AcidRain2012: yes, this will work. I did the same with javaws03:02
ntzrmtthihu777abaddon: damn... how are you installing said fglrx?03:02
nerdtronAcidRain2012, /usr/share/transmission03:02
abaddonntzrmtthihu777,  I've done it through terminal and tried through synaptic03:03
AcidRain2012nerdtron, thx03:03
AdemanI'm trying to set it up so that when I open up a 256 color capable terminal (gnome terminal, mate terminal etc) the $TERM variable gets set to something appropriate like xterm-256color but gnome-terminal seems to default to reporting itself as just xterm...03:03
nerdtronAcidRain2012, simple command to find the location of a program "whereis (program name)"03:03
ntzrmtthihu777Ademan: set it in ~/.bashrc03:04
abaddonntzrmtthihu777,  I type sudo apt-get install fglrx. It runs fine but doesn't seem to work.03:04
ChrisWereHey guys. Does anyone know the best way to handle AVCHD files? I've got a few hours of footage I need to play around with and support for the format really isn't that great and converting takes forever. What's the best way to handle this? Is it possible for me to buy better codecs for ubuntu?03:04
Ademanntzrmtthihu777: if I set it unconditionally in bashrc then it will *incorrectly* report itself as xterm-256color even when it's not 256 color capable03:04
Ademanthat's the problem, essentially03:04
abaddonntzrmtthihu777,  I mean, it works kinda as i've got graphics but my gpu fahn is fullo blast and amdcccle doesn't work.03:05
AcidRain2012nerdtron, thx for the cmd. im about to try is. no binary in /usr/share/transmission03:05
abaddonntzrmtthihu777,  that and I don't have dual display besides cloning03:06
Ademanhrm, it sets COLORTERM=mate-terminal I can switch off of that in my bashrc03:06
nerdtronAcidRain2012, in my system /usr/share folder there is a binary named transmission-gtk03:06
nerdtrontransmission-gtk  ------> is the program itself03:07
AcidRain2012i found the binary in /usr/bin/transmission-gtk03:07
nerdtronAcidRain2012, good03:07
varunendra_ChrisWere, I think the best codec (x264) is free, and natively supported by Linux. Do you have libavcodec-extra-53 installed?03:07
AcidRain2012nerdtron, YES ITS FIXED!!! THX dude! been working on this one issue for like 3months. lol03:08
nerdtronAcidRain2012, wow 3 months of agony :) no problem03:08
ChrisWerevarunendra_: I do have it installed. It just takes forever to convert. Do I have any other options?03:09
abaddonntzrmtthihu777, Any thoughts?03:09
AcidRain2012yea for real. i got tired of copying link location and pasting it into transmission. :/03:09
daftykinsAcidRain2012: wow three months to find a program ;)03:10
daftykinsi'm imagining a montage of hard work with paper and pen :>03:10
ntzrmtthihu777abaddon: sorry, no. if apt-get install fglrx or via synaptic didn't work idk what to tell you.03:10
nerdtronChrisWere, maybe your hardware is not powerful enough?03:10
AcidRain2012lol. ya i know ;p03:10
abaddonntzrmtthihu777, blarg...ok. thx dude03:11
ChrisWerenerdtron: Nope, got a pretty darn fast machine here03:11
varunendra_ChrisWere, since it is a complex codec, it WILL take longer to transcode. Codecs like XVid will be much faster but can't deliver the quality of x264. If you wish to directly edit (slice/cut/paste) the source files, then I'm not sure what to suggest for avchd.03:11
AcidRain2012swear i was just thinkin this. i said to myself 'i can code api to get carrier from cell phone number. i have setup several email servers that use google knowledge api to answer questions like sirii. ive created 100s of web sites programming in almost 10 different languages. yet, i cant find transmission. this has got to be fixed now03:12
nerdtronChrisWere, why not convert using a windows OS and see if there is any difference?03:12
ChrisWerenerdtron: Windows is fine dealing with AVCHD files raw. It looks like this is one the areas where Linux can't seem to keep up.03:13
nerdtronChrisWere, yup, some media codecs especially proprietary codecs can be a pain to read/convert/encode03:14
nerdtronin linux, that is03:14
varunendra_nerdtron, ChrisWere I have transcoded using some popular windows software (including simple tools like TVC and powerful ones like Avid), all of them were slower than Ubuntu when "transcoding" to x264.03:14
ChrisWerenerdtron: is it possible to buy better codecs?03:14
jorgehi03:14
jorge how can I install ubuntu touch on my galaxy s?03:14
selig5 /usr/bin/transmission-gtk03:14
jorgeI follow the steps, but I get a black screen when phone is booting03:14
bl4ckdu5tIs there any way to easily clear /tmp files that are no more in use without going to delete them manually from the folder just like the "Disk Cleanup" in Windows?03:15
ntzrmtthihu777!touch | jorge03:15
ubottujorge: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch03:15
nerdtronChrisWere, "buy better codecs" i don't think codecs are bouhgt :) it usually depends on how "open" the codecs are...that'why you should choose a food format when you record03:15
ntzrmtthihu777bl4ckdu5t: bleachbit is good03:15
jorgethanks03:15
bl4ckdu5tthanks03:16
combatwombat scp -P 22 username@ip:/mnt/share/"Hacking books" /"Hacking books"   I know for a fact that a directory called Hacking books exist under that /share folder, yet I still get an error    scp: /mnt/share/Hacking: No such file or directory     scp: books: No such file or directory    How do I tell it that there is a space if not " " I have even tried /mnt/share/Hacking\ books03:16
selig5 /usr/bin/transmission-gtk :AcidRain201203:16
ChrisWerenerdtron: Is this the legendary community support I've been hearing so much about? "You should have bought a different camera"03:16
abaddonntzrmtthihu777,  Would you happen to know how to purge all drivers pertaining to the gpu? Ie, fglrx, xserver, etc?03:17
AcidRain2012selig5, about 10min late arent u ;)03:17
nerdtroncombatwombat, have you tried it the other way around? perform the copy on the remote machine03:17
varunendra_ChrisWere, it is just a community of "users", none of us have to qualify a standard to be a member :)03:17
selig5slow typist03:17
combatwombatThe box I am on isn't dst natted so I need to do it in that direction nerdtron03:18
nerdtronChrisWere, sorry i didn't help you much, you can wait for other people to to share there thoughts03:18
nerdtronor the forums?03:18
varunendra_ChrisWere, Ubuntuforums should be a good place for your question03:18
nerdtroncombatwombat, add -v to the scp command03:18
nerdtronlet's see the output if there is more03:19
FduvekxkcydfI'm on my phone. Did anyone offer tips on getting autorun to work to crate my driver? I asked ~15 minutes ago under a diff name03:19
ChrisWerevarunendra_: I'll have to give that a go.03:19
ChrisWerevarunendra_: Do you know if I can buy decent software for this?03:19
wilee-nileeChrisWere, Call sony and complain to them.03:19
ChrisWerewilee-nilee: AVCHD is a legitimately good codec, it's just Linux support for it is not so good.03:20
varunendra_ChrisWere, I don't know of any paid software for Ubuntu that performs better than the free ones, but I don't know much in this area.03:20
whiptailIs there a way yet to play aax files in ubuntu, i find it odd that i purchased the audiobook ages ago when i used windows and find now i cant open it03:20
whiptaildamn drm thing03:21
wilee-nileeChrisWere, It would if the makers had linux software.03:21
varunendra_ChrisWere, the forum section where you should post your question : http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33403:21
ChrisWerevarunendra_: Thanks03:21
varunendra_np :)03:21
nerdtronChrisWere, have you searched the software center for possible programs?03:22
varunendra_ChrisWere, you should also try forums that are dedicated to video editing.03:22
combatwombatnerdtron: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fbb5b42498824684669f03:23
ChrisWerenerdtron: I had a look. Not much to report there.03:23
hanasakiwhat version of vmware view is in here?    http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner03:23
ChrisWerevarunendra_: I'm having a little luck just messing around on the command line.03:23
combatwombatSo it isn't handling the space.03:23
nerdtroncombatwombat, seems like the space is the problem03:23
combatwombatright, which I am trying to work around03:24
mwallacesdHi there. I create a new user instead rename the actual user. Now, how can I copy the actual user directories and files to the new profile if the security is based on permissions? There is a simple and quickly way???03:24
nerdtroncombatwombat, w8 i'll try some commands on mine03:24
wilee-nileehanasaki, vmware is not in the ubuntu repos I believe it is a 3rd party.03:24
nerdtroncombatwombat, you have a gui?? on the file manager type:  sftp://user@ip03:25
nerdtronsftp://user@ip:/mnt/share03:25
combatwombatno gui03:25
wilee-nileehanasaki, I was wrong I believe it is in quantal03:25
ChrisWereThanks for the help guys.03:26
nerdtroncombatwombat, scp 'user@host:/Path/"Some Filename With Spaces"'03:26
nerdtronplease take note of the single quotes and the double quotes03:27
daftykinsi don't do it like that 0o03:27
combatwombatyeah just noticed.. you can do the same, just putting the ' after the "03:27
combatwombatyet new error,03:27
combatwombatit thinks it is a file now.. it is a dir03:27
ntzrmtthihu777abaddon: sorry, afk. apt-get purge fglrx etc, I suppose.03:27
combatwombat-r it seems03:28
ntzrmtthihu777combatwombat: netcat can do stuff of that nature.03:28
nerdtroncombatwombat, scp -r03:28
hanasakiwilee-nilee:  they say its in precise partner...     no? http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=202184703:28
nerdtroncombatwombat, or rsync -avrh03:28
ntzrmtthihu777nerdtron: I just discovered the joys of rsync for copying large files with progress indicators :P03:29
nerdtronntzrmtthihu777, yeah --progress is a god send03:29
abaddonntzrmtthihu777,  yeah, did those already and it didn't work so well03:31
combatwombathmm permission denied.. I assume that is on the linux side... (this is an smb share I have mounted)03:31
hanasakiwilee-nilee:  I need the vmware view pcoip :(03:31
xmetalback ... seems my connection got a case of the hiccups03:31
hanasakiwhat is the qxl in kvm?03:31
nerdtroncombatwombat, yup maybe problems with the users you defined in smb....03:31
combatwombathmm , haven't defined any users :P, on the local box I can traverse the directory without issue, not sure where to define them other than just chmoding the share folder..03:32
nerdtroncombatwombat, chmod it is...anyway why a samba share? you also serve windows pc?03:33
combatwombatnerdtron: yeah, my domain controller is hosting files for the network.03:33
wilee-nileehanasaki, They suggest adding deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner  I see that already in my precise sources.list this is a 3rd party site they may not be up to date with what is actually there.03:34
hanasakiwilee-nilee:  I am not on an ubuntu system right now.. .does it have 4.5.0-297975+dfsg-4+b1 or something newer?03:35
hanasakiplease03:35
hanasakivmware website says its newer... the ubuntu site said its 4.5 I think03:35
mwallacesdHi there. I create a new user instead rename the actual user. Now, how can I copy the actual user directories and files to the new profile if the security is based on permissions? There is a simple and quickly way???03:36
s1dev.part03:36
wilee-nileehanasaki, I'm in raring I just checked my sources list in another partition, I'm not familiar with this in any way really03:36
ntzrmtthihu777Heyo. Putting together a multi-iso boot usb with grub2, have some kinks to work out. I installed grub to it, configured menuentries for a few isos, popped it into my laptop that needs boot repair (botched arch install), and it drops to a grub rescue prompt, complaining about it cant find a disc with a certain uuid (/dev/sda1 on this machine, where I made the usb; not the uuid of the usb device). Bit of reasearc into the contents of th03:37
wilee-nileeI use vbox03:37
combatwombati even did chmod 777 -R share and nothing :(03:37
hanasakiok htanks wilee-nilee03:38
hanasakiwilee-nilee:  all sources point to installing a .exe that contains the .deb files needed... LOL nuts.   and I don't hae a windows box... any way to get a .exe open to take out the files inside?   on a linux box?03:38
combatwombatnerdtron: shouldn't chmod 777 -R share  give access to that folder to everyone?03:39
nerdtroncombatwombat, have you tried mounting the samba share to your local manchine03:40
ntzrmtthihu777combatwombat: sloppy solution...03:40
combatwombatnerdtron:  it is..03:41
wilee-nileehanasaki, there are exe downloads that have been forked, the ms fonts is one I believe so not sure again. If its in the repos it must be installable03:41
ntzrmtthihu777hanasaki: unzip can work, I have an exe ripper that works well under wine, cabextract if its the right type.03:41
ntzrmtthihu777combatwombat: samba?03:41
nerdtroncombatwombat, if it is already mount on your local machine, you don't have to scp! just perform the normal copy [source folder] [destination folder]03:42
combatwombatalrighty, here goes,,, I have a local linux box with ssh dest-nat setup. I can ssh to it from anywhere.. I'm trying to copy a directory which is in a samba share to my friends linux box. I have mounted the samba share in /mnt/share03:42
hanasakithank you wilee-nilee and ntzrmtthihu77703:42
combatwombatit is mounted on my local linux box as it used my ad creds to auth03:43
combatwombatWhen I try either my account or his, neither of us can scp it, it gives us permission denied. I assume that is because only root has access... that being said, my box doesn't allow ssh for root account.03:44
combatwombatntzrmtthihu777: if you have a non-sloppy solution I am all ears.03:44
combatwombatroot@spaceghost mnt]# ls -l total 4 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 Mar 10 19:15 share03:45
ntzrmtthihu777combatwombat: I do, lol. properly setup smb.conf and fstab. gimme a sec while I pastebin it for you.03:45
combatwombatsorry, wasn't aware I had to setup some conf..03:46
ntzrmtthihu777http://paste.ubuntu.com/6065060/03:46
ntzrmtthihu777fstab03:46
combatwombatfstab would be mounting it on boot?03:46
combatwombatThat is one thing I don't want... I just want it mounted temporarily.03:46
ntzrmtthihu777combatwombat: nah, you can add that param if you want, but its not needed.03:47
nerdtroncombatwombat, let's make it clear, the samba /mnt/share is in your linux box, and you wan to copy some files to a friend's computer.... on which computer do you issue the scp command?03:47
ntzrmtthihu777http://paste.ubuntu.com/6065064/03:47
ntzrmtthihu777smb.conf03:48
combatwombatI'm issueing the scp command from his box as his box isn't dst-natted03:48
combatwombatntzrmtthihu777: I guess If I knew what I was trying to accomplish with these two files (as in, what the idea is behind the two) then I might be in a better position.03:49
combatwombatthe reason I say this is, I'm not sure why I need to add it to fstab etc.03:50
ntzrmtthihu777combatwombat: autosets your proper permissions and such.03:51
nerdtroncombatwombat, try to mount the samba share on your friends computer03:52
combatwombatI guess thats where I would prefer to just set what I need this time instead of "autoset" it.03:52
combatwombatnerdtron: I don't have shell on his box.03:52
mwallacesdWell, I asked: "Hi there. I create a new user instead rename the actual user. Now, how can I copy the actual user directories and files to the new profile if the security is based on permissions? There is a simple and quickly way?" Anyway. I found it:  sudo cp -R /home/actual_user/* /home/new_user THEN sudo chown -R new_user /home/new_user THE TRICK IS chown.03:52
mwallacesdThanks.03:52
mwallacesd=)03:52
flashmxhi help me03:53
flashmxno puedo reproducir videos flash en youtube03:53
_Joshuahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions03:53
xmetal!ask03:53
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:53
xmetalhmm did i get that wrong?03:53
xmetalah n/m03:53
rscntwhat?03:54
wilee-nilee!es | flashmx03:55
ubottuflashmx: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.03:55
wilee-nileeflashmx, If you can understand install the restricted-extras03:56
flashmxok03:56
nerdtroncombatwombat, you said you issue the scp command on the friend computer??03:56
combatwombatwell.. he does it..03:57
rscntwho?03:57
ntzrmtthihu777flashmx: apt-get install flashplugin-installer03:57
combatwombatntzrmtthihu777: I am following this layout and am currently reading man mount.cifs to try and find what I am doing wrong with those permissions mount -t cifs -o <username>,<password> //<servername>/<sharename> /mnt/point/03:58
flashmxya lo hice pero no sebe nada03:58
_Joshuahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently03:59
combatwombat_Joshua: I don't want to mount anything permanently03:59
_Joshuasame concept04:00
ntzrmtthihu777so, no pendrive linux masters? =_= dang04:00
rscntflashmx:04:00
rscntflashmx: por que no vas a #ubuntu-es04:00
rscntflashmx: ?04:00
_Joshuahttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/mount.cifs.8.html04:00
flashmxok04:01
_Joshua  mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt --verbose -o user=username04:01
combatwombat_Joshua: did that...04:02
combatwombatI have it mounted04:02
combatwombatbut when I try to scp it, Permission Denied04:03
ntzrmtthihu777combatwombat: you need to set the file permissions proper.04:03
combatwombatntzrmtthihu777: I am attempting to do so, however I don't want that sitting around in config files.. this is a one off.04:03
nerdtroncombatwombat, i told the samba share should be mounted on your friends computer04:05
combatwombathe doesn't have the ad credentials to do so nerdtron04:05
ntzrmtthihu777combatwombat: better to set config files and get it done than not.04:05
nerdtroncombatwombat, if he can't access the share on his computer, how can he be able to copy files??04:05
_Joshuaa ninja!04:07
combatwombatntzrmtthihu777: noperm should (i think) fix it, however I'm trying to figure out where to place it in the syantax nerdtron: he can access my linux box, he doesnt have AD credentials to access the windows side of things (aka mounting the share)04:07
nerdtronis your friends computer a windows computer??04:08
combatwombatnope04:08
nerdtroni'm lost sorry04:08
sudormrfHey. Can anyone help me out... I am trying to install Ubuntu on my windows 8 laptop but it refuses to let me use a live disk.04:08
_Joshuasecure boot04:09
_Joshualols04:09
sudormrf_Joshua, yeah, I did manage to turn that off (I think) but no dice.04:09
sudormrfI can04:09
roothorickUbuntu-Gnome 13.04 actually works pretty well in VirtualBox, even without 3D acceleration. Gotta say, I'm kinda impressed with the llvmpipe renderer.04:09
sudormrf't even get into the live disk.04:09
_Joshuavm it, or dual boot04:09
sudormrf_Joshua, U want to dual boot.04:10
sudormrfI*04:10
sudormrfWell, honestly, I just want to be rid of the foul beast altogether.04:10
roothoricksudormrf: fill me in?04:10
_Joshuayou and your dual booting stuff is just too personal04:11
_Joshuadelete the volumes04:11
sudormrfroothorick, so, I put the disk in, I have it set to boot from disk first and the secure booting disabled in the bios -- but it refuses to even give me the option to boot onto the live CD.04:12
roothoricksudormrf: are you using 13.04?04:13
sudormrfroothorick, yes.04:13
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roothoricksudormrf: 64 bit?04:13
sudormrfroothorick, Yep, yep.04:13
roothoricksudormrf: many UEFI BIOSes you have to hit a key to open a boot menu or it just automatically goes to HDD04:14
combatwombatdangit.. noperm didn't do it :(04:15
_Joshua1. Is UEFI enabled in bios ( new enough that UEFI is a factor ?)04:15
_Joshua2. Are you changing the boot priority in bios, to boot the alternate as 1st priority ?04:15
_Joshua3. Have you checked the md5sum of the install cd ?04:15
_Joshua4. Did you verify the install's disk filesystem integrity ?04:15
sudormrfroothorick, I can check that out... but when I go into the restore tools it gives me the option to choose os or choose EFI file, and it does not like my efi file.04:15
FloodBot1_Joshua: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:15
_Joshuajokes on you bot, it was a paste from notepad++  ;)04:15
sudormrflol Floodboted.04:15
_Joshualol04:15
_Joshuaoh, well knowing is half the battle :)04:15
sudormrfYes on 1 and 2 and no on 3 and 4.04:16
sudormrfIt doesn't seem to like the EFI on the live disk.04:17
sudormrfBy "it" I mean when I try to book from EFI file rather than OS.04:17
roothorickand "boot from OS" just goes straight to the HDD?04:18
sudormrfroothorick, yeah... well.. I mean, it gives me the option to boot from ubuntu, but that is only because I used WUBI before I figured out there is this secure boot issue.04:18
Blazehey guys04:22
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_Joshuahey Blaze04:22
_Joshuarunning any specials tonight?04:22
_Joshuaheh04:22
_JoshuaGuest98546 is a Spam DTS Agent - Beijing Express Email Address Extractor04:26
_Joshuajust an fyi04:26
ntzrmtthihu777I'm about to lose my mind =_=04:30
Guest98546_Joshua no im not04:35
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droophello. im learning Linux and was wondering where i can find an Ubuntu thats already to play with on vbox.04:52
wilee-nileedroop, All you have to do is install it.04:57
Sean122Ubuntu.com/download will give you the iso04:59
wilee-nileedroop, This appears to link to sources forge images, never used one I can only assume they are supported here after install.05:01
wilee-nileehttp://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/05:01
droopwilee-nilee: cool. thanks. i asked because im trying out the learn linux the hard way lessons and he gave a file (.ova) that was preconfigured. i will attempt the options you suggested. thank you05:05
reisiosounds more like linux the easy way :p05:07
wilee-nileeoh yeah, ;)05:09
dr_willisbah just use the iso on vbox. that way you get to practice with disk partitions05:11
dr_willis  ;-)05:11
reisioyeah it only takes a bit05:11
reisioand you know where the media is coming from05:12
dr_willissome of those vbox premade images.. have had issues in here in the past05:12
dr_willisweird tweaks and so forth05:12
LordPantshi all... I just finished installing 64-bit 13.10, but I can't seem to install ia32-libs. is it deprecated? what's the workaround for running 32-bit apps?05:13
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wilee-nilee!13.10 | LordPants funny nick05:14
ubottuLordPants funny nick: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+105:14
wilee-nilee;)05:14
reisioLordPants: the package manager should know what they require05:14
* reisio questions a learning linux tut that requires you to learn new things about using Windows & Windows software e:p05:15
LordPantswilee-nilee: thanks, I'll try in there, too05:17
diliphello05:17
LordPantsreisio: I'm installing manually because the package manager has an old version of Eclipse.05:17
dilipi'm not able to install jdk please help me05:17
reisiolord, eclipse05:17
reisiowhy don't you just use a language that has a future? :/05:18
Tm_Treisio: that is not helpful05:18
Tm_Tdilip: could you give more details what is the issue?05:19
LordPantsreisio: I'm developing Android apps... they seem to have a future :)05:19
reisioand if I recommended he learn algol, I s'pose that would be helpful?05:19
reisioLordPants: meh05:19
Tm_Treisio: not05:19
reisioTm_T: so nothing is helpful :p05:19
darkangelHey is it bad or good to Install Pre-Released Updates? in Update manager05:21
reisioit's good if you want them05:21
darkangelcool05:21
reisiofrom a stability standpoint, it's hard to imagine it would in general be wise05:21
reisiobut Ubuntu doesn't really have a stable branch, so that may already be academic05:21
Tm_Tdarkangel: unless you are testing bug fixes, it's recommended to not use them05:21
darkangeloh05:21
darkangelima beginner on Bug fixing but startin to learn it today...  how do u test a Program for Bugs any program?05:22
Tm_Tdarkangel: depends on the bug and the software, I recommend joining #ubuntu-bugs for further information05:23
darkangelok thx05:23
[[thufir]]how do I combine something like "watch" with "tail" so that I see, live, the tail of a log?  there's a special command I saw for that once, but can't remember it...05:25
somsiptail -f filename05:28
Al3xG0help-me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6065254/05:28
dswhite85hi hi, how's it going?05:31
dswhite85i'm on 13.04 right now, is there any real reasons to upgrade to 13.10 when it's released?05:32
The_PhoenixAm trying to do a minimal Ubuntu install. I started with mini.iso and installed Ubuntu. Then, installed lxde, lubuntu-core, lubuntu-icon-theme lubuntu-restricted-extras. But, when I boot, after login, all I see is a wallpaper. No right-click menus. No icons or launchers.05:33
The_PhoenixI already installed 600MB+ data. :/05:33
Tm_Tdarkangel: 13.04 has 9 months of support, so if you don't upgrade, you're without support for several months before 14.04 is out05:36
Tm_Tdarkangel: ...and to upgrade to that you have to upgrade first to 13.10 anyway05:36
darkangelLOL im with Ubuntu 12.04 now05:36
mwallacesdme too.05:37
darkangel13.04 is sooooo Unstable compairing to 12.04 LTS05:37
mwallacesdsee you...05:37
wilee-nileedarkangel, I have both, never had a problem with either.05:38
mint_Anyone know which *ubuntu has the fastest 3D performance? L/X/K... ubuntu itself is the slowest of the bunch05:39
darkangelwell ima not sure if its just me or my computer but 12.04 seems a TAD bit faster then 13.0405:39
[[thufir]]somsip: thx05:39
gRAVIty1Trying to reformat an ntfs partition to ext3 using Gparted. Gparted shows "1 operation pending" for a long time.05:39
xmetal(just to try .. maybe in vm) when i get a chance on high speed ... i 'd probably try ubuntu again .... though i am not sure what version i'd get05:40
gRAVIty1can someone explain what is happening05:40
wilee-nileegRAVIty1, Have you hit the green check mark in the top panel?05:40
xmetaldid you hit "apply " ?05:41
Tm_Tdarkangel: aah, dswhite85 was the nick I was looking for05:41
gRAVIty1wilee-nilee - LOL max - i did not hit the green check mark05:41
xmetalwilee-nilee, has the same idea apparently05:41
gRAVIty1seems to have start ed now05:41
gRAVIty1:)05:41
gRAVIty1thanks xmetal05:41
FloodBot1gRAVIty1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:41
xmetalno problem05:41
darkangelcool05:41
wilee-nileeIn the words of James Brown "G R A V I T Y it's Gravity"05:42
gRAVIty1Ravi is my name and hence I picked it up :P05:43
yugandharHi  Guys, What is the irc channel for UEC (Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud)?05:43
yugandharPlease help me05:43
wilee-nileeCool, you ever on the UF with your name as a nick?05:43
dr_willis!alis | yugandhar05:43
ubottuyugandhar: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*05:43
gRAVIty1ya as ravikanth1988 not as just ravi05:44
yugandhar!alis05:44
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*05:44
mint_Oh god halp, only 1 core on my nvidia motheboard is working, no clue why the other is missing05:44
dr_willisno one ever actually seems to read wwhat the bot says.....05:44
wilee-nileegRAVIty1, Ah, I had a lot of conversations with a user with that name, lived in the mid east05:45
wilee-nileewhat bit05:45
wilee-nileebot05:45
Tm_Tdr_willis: well, perhaps because using the bot that way isn't helpful (:05:45
mint_I have a C2D and a zotac nvidia chipset motherboard and for some reason only 1 core shows up... both work in xp/705:45
gRAVIty1Ravi is a pretty common name in South India :)05:45
Tm_Tyugandhar: #ubuntu-server is always good place to start05:46
wilee-nileeTm_T, Hmm, and criticism is so helpful, lol.05:46
Tm_Tyugandhar: for future reference, you can find list of ubuntu channels in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList05:47
mint_Does ubuntu work well on intel's new haswell cpus?05:47
Tm_Tmint_: yes05:47
xmetalhmm05:51
mint_Anyone have an idea why only 1 of my 2 cores is working? it's a C2D and nvidia IGP board05:51
aeon-ltdmint_: where are you seeing 1 core? top?05:54
mint_ya only 1 in top/htop05:54
nerdtrontop command then press 105:54
darkangel1 at 0% and 1 at workin like changing %05:54
mint_cpu0 and that's it05:55
darkangelya i had that problem b405:55
Ben66mint_: mint is not supported here05:55
darkangelDid u just Install Ur Distro resently?05:55
nerdtronmint_, cat /proc/cpuinfo05:55
mint_nerdtron: http://pastebin.com/UDTa9Cg405:56
aeon-ltdthat says celeron right there05:57
mint_Both cores hum away in windows xp and 7, but linux pretends i only have 1 core05:57
nerdtronmint_, what version of ubuntu is this?05:57
Ben66mint_: you can try asking in the mint support channel, or in ##hardware, but we can not help you with mint here05:58
mint_13.0405:58
aeon-ltdmy bad it does have 2 cores http://ark.intel.com/products/42771/Intel-Celeron-Processor-E3300-1M-Cache-2_50-GHz-800-MHz-FSB05:58
darkangelROFL it says i have 800MHZ processor woooow if u have a 2 Core CPU would that be 1.6 GHZ?05:58
mint_aeon-ltd: 2 cores and loves to be overclocked... although it's stock right now05:58
reisiodarkangel: not usually05:58
darkangelaww ok05:59
mint_anyone with an E3300 care to post your cat /proc/cpuinfo06:00
reisiomint_: uname -v06:00
nerdtronmint_, edit the /etc/init.d/rc and make sure that this line is defined CONCURRENCY=makefile06:00
Ben66mint_: you seem to be ignoring me. WE DO NOT SUPPORT MINT IN HERE06:01
Ben66!mint | mint_06:01
ubottumint_: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org06:01
* xmetal decides not to say it06:02
reisioit!06:02
aeon-ltdxmetal: bird?06:02
xmetallol reisio06:02
mint_Ben66: I'm ignoring you because I'm not using mint06:03
Ben66your nick and ident say you are06:03
nerdtronBen66, how to know that he is using mint?06:03
Ben66thats the default nickname and ident for mint systems06:04
mint_SMP Debian 3.2.32-1 aaand now i'm using debian instead, it also is stuck using 1 core, every distro i've tried is stuck using 1 core06:04
MrSassyPantswhy is dovecot running?06:04
reisioMrSassyPants: for email servage?06:04
darkangelHow can u adjust ur Fan speeds and Over clock on Ubuntu???06:04
dr_willissounds like a kernel bug to me mint_06:04
MrSassyPantsno. I mean. I disabled it via rcconf, yet after a reboot, it's there.06:04
nerdtronmint_, have you tried my suggestion?06:05
mint_dr_willis: I think it is... every distro has the same problem, I'd like ubuntu to work the most of all of them though... strange windows xp and 7 works06:05
MrSassyPantsI'm going to kill it with fire now, but I first want to know why it's getting started06:05
dr_willisdarkangel:  for fans it can depend on your pc chipset, and fan controller chipset. (and video card)  - as for overclocking - it depends on what you want to overclock06:05
mint_nerdtron: uname -v? SMP 3.2.3206:06
reisioMrSassyPants: probably because you asked for an email server at some point06:06
MrSassyPantsreisio, there is no email server in rcconf06:06
MrSassyPants(activated anyhow)06:06
darkangelprocessor is there a Terminal command for stuff like overclocking?06:06
Ben66mint_: thats not an ubuntu kernel, please go to the support of whichever distro you're running06:06
reisioMrSassyPants: not necessarily relevant to my guess :)06:06
MrSassyPantsreisio, why is dovecot running?06:06
reisioMrSassyPants: probably because you asked for an email server at some point06:07
MrSassyPantsthat is not an answer to my question06:07
reisioit seems like it is...06:07
Ben66it is an answer actually06:07
MrSassyPantsI said "don't start dovecot at boot"06:07
MrSassyPantsthen it starts dovecot at boot.06:07
reisioyou mean why technically, like, what configuration tells it to run?06:07
reisioah06:07
reisiohow'd you say it?06:07
MrSassyPantsI want to take fire and blood and death to this.06:07
MrSassyPantsSo why is it running?06:08
reisioand I want to get back to work, so... answer my question? :p06:08
reisiohow did you tell it to not start?06:08
MrSassyPantsrcconf06:08
dr_willisim not sure rcconf works with upstart managed services06:09
Ben66!upstart | MrSassyPants06:09
ubottuMrSassyPants: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/06:09
MrSassyPantsso upstart starts it?06:10
MrSassyPantsremoving that crap06:10
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reisiomoreover, if you don't want it, just uninstall it :) and further, you could check your logs to see what took it in as a dep06:10
Ben66uh... you don't want to remove upstart06:10
MrSassyPantsit starts stuff that I don't want it to start06:10
MrSassyPantsthat makes it malware.06:10
Ben66no06:11
MrSassyPantsmalware gets the boot.06:11
Ben66thats just silly06:11
dr_willisMrSassyPants:  perhaps you shouldd learn your system.. and stop ranting silly things06:11
Ben66it starts everything. good luck with all that06:11
linuhi all i have been trying to work on qconnman on my ubuntu 12.04 pc,i followed https://github.com/OSSystems/qconnman-ui , but after successfull installation i just tried to run but it shows just empty white window without any options,can you tell how to work on it ?06:11
dr_willisupsstart has REPLACED sysV06:11
MrSassyPantsdr_willis, how should I learn anything when it's constantly changing?06:11
dr_willistheres just a few bits of sysv fallback code06:11
dr_willisUpstart has not changed in the last 4+ releases as far as i know06:12
dr_willisits been upstart for like 3+ years i think06:12
dr_willispeople dont notice - becuase of the sysv fallback bits that are slowly phased out.06:12
dr_willisi suggest a read of the upstart 'cookbook'06:13
reisioMrSassyPants: it's not upstart's fault06:13
dr_willisim not sure if ubuntu is planning on swutching to that systemd or whatever it was called , other init system that arch and some other disrtos are using06:13
reisioMrSassyPants: you told your system to install something, and that something either was dovecot, or asked for dovecot to also be installed06:13
MrSassyPantswell, upstart booted a service I explicitly instructed rcconf not to boot.06:13
Ben66well rcconf doesn't do what you think it does06:14
dr_willisrcconf is basicaly ignored then it sounds like.. its out dated06:14
dr_willisor its not the right tool for the job..06:14
reisioMrSassyPants: you might want to look into disabling apt's 'recommends' for the future06:14
MrSassyPantswell what is then?06:14
dr_willisyou edit the upstart  serrvicename.conf files to manage  upstart06:14
dr_willislike the upstart cookbook/docs say06:14
dr_willis!find dovecot.conf06:15
ubottuFile dovecot.conf found in dovecot-core, fail2ban, logwatch06:15
dr_willis  /etc/init.d/dovecot.conf  if it exists - would show its managed by upstart06:15
Ben66http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting06:15
reisioMrSassyPants: rcconf probably comes with some package which is still used in some other ways :)06:16
ubuntuthistimeSoo i'm on regular ubuntu 13.04, no derivs, only 1 cpu core works, both work on windows... #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 18 18:09:44 UTC 201306:18
reisiohaha06:18
dr_willisubuntuthistime:  and how are you determing that its using 1 core?06:18
reisioubuntuthistime: did you ever try what nerdtron said?06:18
coolstarWhich do you guys think is better? KDE or Unity?06:18
reisioMrSassyPants: rcconf probably comes with some package which is still used in some other ways :)06:18
ubuntuthistimewhat did he say?06:19
reisiocoolstar: I don't much care for either :)06:19
coolstarI'm trying to decide between Ubuntu or Kubuntu06:19
reisioubuntuthistime: edit the /etc/init.d/rc and make sure that this line is defined CONCURRENCY=makefile06:19
xmetalget ubuntu and install the kde packages .. .so you have both06:19
xmetal:)06:19
coolstarxmetal: well it's the ubuntu base anyways, so I could even install xfce if I wanted xD06:19
reisiocoolstar: KDE is more Windows like by default, Unity is more Mac OS like06:19
reisioUnity/GNOME06:20
reisioXfce can go either way, but the Xubuntu version of Xfce is configured to be more Mac OS like06:20
reisioeasily changed, but still06:20
coolstarwell I'm currently using Ubuntu, but I'm experiencing some performance issues with Unity06:20
coolstarhaven't noticed any last time I tried KDE, but I tried KDE like a year and a half ago06:21
Ben66ubuntuthistime: run this in terminal... echo $(uname -a) $(cat /etc/issue) | pastebinit06:21
coolstaror meh, I'll just boot kubuntu from a live USB and see how it goes06:21
nerdtronubuntuthistime, edit the /etc/init.d/rc and make sure that this line is defined CONCURRENCY=makefile06:21
ubuntuthistimeyup it's already set06:22
reisiocoolstar: KDE's accelerated window manager stuff is probably better developed than Unity's...06:22
reisiojust a guess06:22
MrSassyPantsreisio, is there an upstart-capable alternative to rcconf06:22
reisiocompiz was basically unmaintained for some time06:22
ubuntuthistimehttp://pastebin.com/FaZVEgRt06:22
reisioMrSassyPants: I'm sure there is, but I don't know upstart well enough to say, ask the channel06:22
reisioI _believe_ someone already said, though06:22
coolstarreisio: yeah, Ubuntu 11.04 and higher ran pretty horribly on my previous computer06:22
coolstarI used to use Kubuntu on it (Thinkpad t60 w/ ATI X1300)06:23
reisiocoolstar: there's an unaccelerated version of Unity, IIRC06:23
coolstarI'm currently on a Thinkpad t410 though, which is fairly recent06:23
reisiobut at that point you may as well just use Xfce configured to look like Mac OS, IMO06:23
coolstarreisio: I really miss Gnome 2 though :(06:23
xmetalheck (atm i use a ubuntu "cousin') but i'd just instal Ubuntu and then install packages for other DE's06:23
coolstarthat was pretty awesome06:24
ubuntuthistimeIt's as if linux thinks my cpu is a single core, but windows xp has no problem despite being from 2003(my xp disk)06:24
xmetal-but06:24
dr_willisgnome2 was pretty lacking in a lot of ways that people have frogotten about06:25
reisiocoolstar: Xfce then06:25
reisiodr_willis: not slow enough? :p06:25
coolstarreisio: I'll give KDE a try and see06:25
reisioubuntuthistime: you said that already :)06:25
coolstaron my previous computer it took a long time to start KDE initially, but I have an SSD on this one06:25
dr_willisthe never ending cycle of 'lets remove these features because they are scary to beginners....' ;006:25
coolstarso I hope it'll be a lot faster :D06:26
reisioubuntuthistime: I've seen this problem come up before, but not often06:26
reisioubuntuthistime: what all distro/kernels have you tried?06:26
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john_johnRedshift still refuses to run on both of my monitors06:26
reisiodr_willis: very GNOME :)06:26
ubuntuthistimeEvery distro from 2008 to now, i have about 40 images06:26
reisiojohn_john: consider it a favor, use xcalib -i -a instead06:26
xmetaldr .. .that sounds like MS's mentality to me06:26
reisioredshift is for tourists :)06:26
rocko88hi06:26
dr_willisreisio:  well very 'recent gnome ' i rember back in the ximian gnome days.. ;)06:26
reisiohi rocko06:26
Ben66ubuntuthistime: are you running in a vm or something06:27
reisioGNOME's always been that way, IME06:27
rocko88:)06:27
reisiothey just get better at it as time goes on06:27
reisioor worser :p06:27
john_johnreisio: I see, and I could just add it to startup as well?06:27
dr_williswho needs screensaver settings anyway! ;)06:27
rocko88a night beatiful!!!06:27
reisiojohn_john: you could, but it's better on-demand (keyboard shortcut)06:27
reisiojohn_john: also compiz (what Unity uses) can invert a single window on its own (xcalib -i -a inverts everything)06:27
ubuntuthistimeEvery SMP enabled version of windows I own(all of them) works with this motherboard(9300ITX) but linux does not... hmm... the GPU does work though06:28
reisiothe only thing better than inverting colors is wearing sunglasses, works better than anything, you just look silly06:28
reisiothey should really put fewer and dimmer LEDs in computer monitors :p06:28
reisioubuntuthistime: you said, many times06:28
alfreddbahi am using monit to monitoring my server...how to monitor ruby application using monit. pls guide me..06:29
rocko88is a night beautiful in mexico06:29
rocko88my greetings all community06:29
Ben66ubuntuthistime: are you running in a VM? you said something about having "about 40 images"06:29
ubuntuthistimehttp://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-geforce-9300-itx-gf9300-i-e.html This is the culprit... nice ITX board with GPU I use for HTPC/workstation06:29
ubuntuthistimeBen66, off USB/CD, not in vm...06:29
john_johnreisio: oh I see, I'd rather just have redshift working then because f.lux refuses to anything. I like it when it gradually gets darker as time goes06:30
dr_willissounds to me like a kernel+bios type bug,,06:30
ubuntuthistimeFunny you mention VM, because linux in a VM atop winodws works with 2 cpus.... ruing native is the problem06:30
reisiojohn_john: you should at least try inverting colors first06:30
john_johnreisio, the command for deactivating it is? ^^06:31
reisiothere's just no comparison... one changes the hues ever so slightly, one takes masses of WHITE and changes it to black06:31
reisiojohn_john: same command, it toggles06:31
CyberJacobHi06:31
john_johnxcalib is not installed :<06:31
reisiohi CyberJacob06:31
reisiojohn_john: install it :)06:31
CyberJacobIs it possible to broadcast multiple SSIDs when a wireless card is in AP mode?06:32
john_johnReisio: it only inverts the colors on one screen :/06:32
reisiojohn_john: heh, maybe DISPLAY=:0.0 xcalib -i -a; DISPLAY=:0.1 xcalib -i -a or something06:33
alfreddbahow to monitor passenger..pls help me06:34
john_johnReisio: Error - Can't open display :0.106:34
reisiojohn_john: it's whatever xdpyinfo | grep -i display says06:35
dr_willisalfreddba:  passengers?06:35
alfreddbadr_willis: sorry passenger-nginx.06:36
reisiojohn_john: perhaps :0 and :106:36
john_johnreisio: weird, it says there's only 0.006:37
dr_willishttp://mmonit.com/monit/documentation/06:37
reisiojohn_john: is the other one a clone?06:37
john_johnreisio: nope, I can move windows into it and whatnot06:37
john_johnmust be a bug with catalyst06:38
reisiommmm, possibly06:38
reisioI'd be quite surprised if you couldn't figure it out, though06:39
john_johnshould probably turn off crossfire acceleration since it says that it can only accelerate one screen06:39
reisioyou can get a feel for it one one monitor, regardless06:39
reisioon one*06:39
dr_willisjohn_john:  for nvodoa twinview theres  0.0 and 0.1  with the one being the second monitor06:39
viktorHello world06:40
nerdtrondoes anybody know what will happen if i flush the mail queue?06:41
nerdtronor postfix flush -----what will this command do?06:41
NuSueyuh, anyone got some experience with tripple boot & (or) with darwin bootloader (mac os). I tried to install ubuntu this morning, but It won't add an entry there (to darwin) >.< any tips?06:44
reisioNuSuey: IME, one only needs a single OS06:45
NuSueyreisio: >.< well.. that will happen, but not now.. need 3 of em :P06:46
aeon-ltdVMs!06:46
john_johndr_willis I can utilize the two monitors, as well as choose between them in settings, catalyst etc. But the terminal believes that there is only one monitor, so f.lux and alike can only run in the second one for some reason.06:46
IdleOneNuSuey: try asking #MacOSX darwin is not supported on ubuntu06:46
NuSueyIdleOne: well, ok06:46
IdleOnereisio: if all you can do is offer non helpful comments. I suggest you find somewhere else to do it06:47
dr_willisno idea what f.lux is.  ;)06:47
john_johndr_willis same with redshift06:47
john_johnthis is getting hard on my eyes. :(06:47
coolstardr_willis: basically makes the display colors look like the lighting in the room06:47
coolstardr_willis: so it's easier to say, code at midnight06:48
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dr_willisbah.. for weaklings.  :)06:48
dr_willisdo flux just alters the colors on one display06:49
john_johnyes06:49
john_johnOn my secondary display too06:49
alfreddbadr_willis:  thanks i can monit nginx..how can i monit passenger and ruby application06:49
alfreddbaip tables i want to  change ssh port 22 some other port like 3000..pls help06:50
dr_willisalfreddba:  check the monit docs and faq and forums for examples yet?06:51
dr_willisalfreddba:  the sshd configs let you change the ports06:52
john_johnwhy can I no longer copy links to folders? Geeze everything is so simplified06:52
nurowHow can I disable the incredibly annoying line between my two monitors when I move my cursor between them?06:53
alfreddbadr_willis:  sshd config..pls guide me..06:53
john_johnnurow: I think by disabling the snapping options in compiz06:53
dr_willisalfreddba:  read the config files comments. and sshd docs. its a trivial setting to change06:54
nurowso I'd have to install compiz? I don't currently have it06:54
john_johnnurow: that's how I fixed it, there's probably an easier way that I don't know of06:55
alfreddbadr_willis: thanks..i googled it for passenger monit...where i can find the process id of passenger.06:55
dr_willisalfreddba:  bash basics.. the  ps command can do that I imagine06:55
dr_willisnurow: what desktop are you using?06:56
alfreddbadr_willis: using ps command i can find the pid..how to get the location of pid.06:56
reisiodefault Ubuntu already uses compiz, though you might want to reconfigure it06:57
dr_willislocation? dont know what you mead06:57
dr_willismean06:57
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alfreddbawhere pid is stored..for particular pid like 231506:58
litangleave06:58
dr_willisdont think they are stored anywhere. some apps log them to  appname.pid    ive seen befor06:58
dr_willisor look in /proc  perhaps06:59
john_johnwhy can't i navigate to my home folder with the terminal07:00
nurowdr_willis: Unity07:00
john_johnI do cd /home, but when I do cd /and my name it can't find the catalog?07:00
dr_williscd /home/username  gives what error?07:00
dr_willisnurow:  unity is a compiz plugin07:01
nuroweh? so how do I access compix settings then?07:01
dr_willis! ccsm07:01
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz07:01
dr_willisinstall and run ccsm to tweak compiz07:02
nurowI see.07:02
nurowthanks John_john and dr_willis07:02
alfreddbadr_willis:  i mean for delayed job the pid is in the location /var/www/app/shared/pids/delayed_job.pid like how to get passenger pid07:02
ihreIf I mount a 100G hdd on /var/lib/backuppc, while my /var partition is actually 10G, could I use the additional 100G?07:05
somsipihre: yes - that's the idea07:06
nurowodd.. I disabled snapping windows but it still happens?07:06
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dr_willisnurow:  ive seen sometimes some ccsm settings dont take efffect untill you log out/back in..   but ive not fought with ccsm in ages. ;) so not sure how common that is these days07:08
nurowokay, i see. I will have to try later then. thanks dr_willis07:08
dr_willisihre:  thats how mount works07:08
ihresomsip: well thats weird then, du -hsx /var reveals 2,9G, while df -h reports 100% use on var, and /var/lib/backuppc is 10G. I wonder where the additional 7G comes from then07:09
dr_willisihre:  you could have /home/ and each user have gtheor own home mounted to some other partion for example07:09
nurowactually... let's try it now07:09
dr_willisthe mountpoint size shold not be included i imagine.07:09
nurowall of my windows are messed up now.. i  can't drag/drop them07:10
nurowso trying to log out now07:10
ihredr_willis: I thought so, but I cant figure out where the additional ~7G comes from then07:10
john_johnCan I use the same dvd disc do install another operating system with, say Kubuntu?07:10
coolstaroh wow, KDE is so pretty07:11
john_johnyeah I don't think this unity thing is for me. I aint no tablet user07:11
dr_willisjohn_john:  what other os?07:11
dr_willisunity is not like my tablet at all.07:11
dr_willisYou can nstall several desktops on the same system, with no need for seperate insstallss of the os;s07:12
john_johndr_willis: I think Kubuntu fits me better, like just replacing ubuntu with it07:12
dr_willisjohn_john:  install the kubuntu-desktop package on any ubuntu install. and you will ahvee both desktops07:12
john_johndr_willis: but how do I switch the current GTK for KDE then?07:13
john_johnalso, wont it be bloated as fuck?07:13
dr_willisnot really07:13
dr_willisa few movies would be taking up 3x the space all of kde does or unity07:14
aeon-ltdjohn_john: to switch you log out chnge session and log in07:14
universalanyway of changing from one desktop to another without logging out the session ?07:15
bazhanguniversal, no07:15
universalthat means its a comple DE session ?07:15
universalcomplete*07:16
nerdtronjohn_john, what is yoru computer specs?07:16
aeon-ltduniversal: yeah, you need to end a sesh to start a sesh07:16
nerdtroni tried installing KDE over Ubuntu and it runs fine07:16
aeon-ltduniversal: or you need to run multiple instances of X07:16
universalyou mean virtualization ? or something else ?07:16
john_johnnerdtron: they're good enough, it's just that it feels as if I fucked up this installation a little too much and would like to make a clean install, haha.07:17
IdleOne!language07:17
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.07:17
aeon-ltduniversal: Xorg xserver07:17
universal!Xorg07:17
ubottuThe X Window system is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart X, type 'sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm' on an ubuntu system. replace with kdm on Kubuntu. To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution . Also see !xorgconf07:17
john_johnoh sorry07:18
universalaeon-ltd: pls throw some light on X !07:18
john_johnIf my harddrive is encrypted with ubuntu, will I need the password if I make a clean install?07:19
Aceface hi i got a question anout linux kernels, can i install 3.11 on any linux distro or are old distros not supported by newer kernels, or do linux distros make their own kernels and i shouldn't install a generic version?07:19
Acefacehas ubuntu fixed the massive wireless bug that drop wifi signal yet?07:20
bazhangAceface, link us the bug number07:20
reisioAceface: which bug is that?07:20
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aeon-ltduniversal: what about it, it's pretty big07:21
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universalaeon-ltd: I mean how to rum multiple session of X ?07:22
Acefaceuhm idk the bug number07:22
Acefaceit was with alot of distros07:22
AcefaceBug #1173759?07:23
ubottubug 1173759 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 13.04 can detect wi-fi but can't connect" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117375907:23
aeon-ltduniversal: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=6700307:23
Acefacei was just curious if it was a distro issue, kernel issure or driver issue07:24
FourFoneHello again07:25
FourFoneI'm asked that I've stopped compiz the procsess07:26
FourFoneI am afraid that I need the commands required to restart it without restarting the whole system07:27
wilee-nileejohn_john, The HD or the install?07:28
Acefaceany ideas?07:28
FourFoneI have them written down... on my desktop...07:28
john_johnwilee-nilee I did it with the ubuntu install since there was an option for it07:30
FourFoneCan anyone help me?07:30
wilee-nileejohn_john, You can wipe it with the live cd.07:30
wilee-nileejohn_john, I assume there is nothing there you want.07:31
bazhangFourFone, stop what? compiz ?07:32
FourFoneYes I stopped compiz accidenlty07:33
john_johncorrect, thanks07:33
FourFoneAnd I need to restart it without restarting the entire systen07:33
Aceface hi i got a question anout linux kernels, can i install 3.11 on any linux distro or are old distros not supported by newer kernels, or do linux distros make their own kernels and i shouldn't install a generic version?07:33
bazhangAceface, which ubuntu version are you on07:34
bazhangFourFone, log out and back in07:34
Aceface10.0407:35
FourFoneHow?07:35
Acefaceso can i install 3.11 on ubuntu 10.0407:35
FourFoneNothing I ťry to do garners a response07:35
bazhangAceface, thats not supported, see eol upgrades link07:35
bazhang!eolupgrades | Aceface07:35
ubottuAceface: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades07:35
FourFoneI can't even bring up a standard terminal07:36
ColombianBootloaAceface, why do not you try what you want to do using a VM. and your ubuntu version? instead of your current one!!07:36
FourFoneThere was something you can do some more fundamental terminal07:36
OxymoronI dont know how, but my user account was removed from the sudoer file. Is it possible to readd myself?07:36
bazhangFourFone, are you on unity? gnome-shell?  there is a dropdown menu with "log out" as an option in both07:37
FourFoneI be usedit before but the instructions are on my computer: (07:37
OxymoronI have root access though?07:37
ColombianBootloaI would like to ask something here, Does anybody uses a program to keep all usernames and passwords in one place? so you can remember ALL. I just do not remember the name of the application07:38
bazhangColombianBootloa, keepassx?07:38
FouFonOkay any ideas?07:38
dr_willisi just use a little notebook ;007:39
bazhangFouFon, use the dropdown menu that says "log out"07:39
FouFonYeah I'm going to put backup notes on paper after this07:39
ObrienDaveA notebook is so old school.  Lmao07:39
ColombianBootloayes mate!!! keeppassx...lol..ok I will search on that one..07:39
bazhangColombianBootloa, that should be in the software centre/repos07:40
FouFonThe dropdown menu doesn't respond to my moudrclick07:40
ferr!broadcom07:40
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx07:40
FouFonNothing does: (07:41
bazhangFouFon, what version of ubuntu, what shell (unity, gnome-shell), what exactly have you tried so far07:41
Jordan_UObrienDave: Individual accounts aren't listed in /etc/sudoers directly by default. You probably accidentally removed your user from the "sudoers" group.07:41
FouFon12.04 unity07:42
Jordan_UOxymoron: ^^07:42
ObrienDaveUmm, that was not me asking07:42
Jordan_UObrienDave: Sorry, I mistabbed your nick instead of Oxymoron's.07:42
ObrienDaveNo biggie.  Lol07:42
delinquentmesooo lets say I'm wanting to upgrade my ubuntu install to 12.0407:42
OxymoronJordan_U: I changed root password, then my own regular account was removed from the sudoers group, wtf?07:42
delinquentmeon 10.04 currently07:43
delinquentmeis this something I should just wipe and reformat?07:43
FouFonUndoing command reclicking control [command] t07:43
delinquentmeor does a 10>12 upgrade actually happen?07:43
wilee-nileeFouFon, what ubuntu release is it?07:43
FouFonAlt tab07:43
Jordan_UOxymoron: What specifically did you do? Also note that having a root password set is not needed and is highly discouraged.07:43
FouFonCommand tab07:44
FouFonFM f1-for1207:44
FouFonFn f1-f1207:45
OxymoronJordan_U: I dont know, somehow I was removed from root access, I needed to change UNIX root passwd again and then I was removed from sudoers group.07:45
OxymoronDoenst feel safe ...07:45
FouFonControl alt del07:45
Jordan_UOxymoron: Assuming that you used the terminal to do this, what are the exact commands that you ran?07:45
FouFonForcing a sleep mode07:46
FouFonWilee-nilee 12.0407:47
FouFonUnity07:47
ferranyone could help me with dependencies?07:47
FouFonAll of those things caused no change in the screen apart fromforcing sleep07:48
FouFonI can't just rstart because I have unsaved Erik imortant work07:49
FouFonI know that there is some lower level command line terminal built into Ubuntu below the desktop envirinment07:50
Ben66there is a terminal yes07:51
dr_willisFouFon:  the linux consoles are on alt-cgrl-f1 through f607:51
FouFonI've yews it before to solve this issue but I've forgotten the commands require07:51
OxymoronJordan_U: passwd I used and changed root password07:52
FouFonOk cool now how do I restart compiz exactly?07:53
dr_williscompiz --replace &07:54
dr_willisis one way07:54
wilee-nileeFouFon, More exserienced users than my self have told you to just restart, however at your own risk look at the reset for 12.04 using a tty. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html07:54
dr_willisor launch some other window manager if compiz keeps crashing07:54
FouFonNo I stopped it via task manager07:55
FouFonHow do I kill then rstart it?07:55
dr_willisalt-ctrl-t if a terminal opens, use 'compiz --replace &'07:55
dr_willis --replace makes it replace any other running07:56
FouFonIt eeriest an error "compiz core fatal coulnt open display"07:57
FouFonReturns*07:57
dr_willisand you are running it from a terminal or the CONSOLE ?08:00
dr_willisif the console - you need to export the proper DISPLAY variable08:00
dr_willisexport DISPLAY=0.0      Ii think)08:00
geirhaDISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace &08:02
varunmy display is garbeled everything is appearing on top left corner08:04
varunlogin fields buttons , everything is on top left corner08:05
uhpnouhello is it possible to set up a proxy server for a single user?08:05
ObrienDavevarun==> describe "everything"08:05
VigilantePhey, I'm installing Ubuntu for the first time, and it appeared as though it would boot into a GUI based installer, but it eventually puts me in a command shell with this error (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system08:06
VigilantePI'm booting it off of the UBCD as I had some hard disk troubles08:06
varunwhen i got login screen the login box and all the buutons that appears on top right , all are on top left corner08:06
bazhangVigilanteP, did you md5 the iso yet08:06
huangxintaichaod08:07
varunObrienDave, and when i enter password and hit enter08:07
VigilantePbazhang: I suppose I should do that now then08:07
FourFireI'd like to thank all the helpful people in this channel08:07
varuni got desktop but again everything is n top left corner08:07
bazhang!hashes | VigilanteP08:07
ubottuVigilanteP: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of all downloadable Ubuntu releases08:07
bazhangvarun, min/max/close buttons?08:08
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strange_hey guys anyone using rdp for some reason it looks like every connection makes a new session instead of attaching08:08
ObrienDavevarun==> right click on the panel and adjust the properties08:08
FourFirethe solution, worked and now I am going to take special precautions not to ever stop that program again08:08
VigilantePbazhang: Very unfamiliar with this all, but it should definitely be an iso and not an img then?08:08
varuni cant see anything except some buttons that aperas on top right are now on top left and nothing  else08:09
bazhang!md5 | VigilanteP this may clarify things a bit08:09
ubottuVigilanteP this may clarify things a bit: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows08:09
varunObrienDave, but its not working08:09
varuni can access terminal though08:09
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bazhangvarun, the MIN/MAX/CLOSE buttons?08:09
VigilantePbazhang: thanks, wasn'08:09
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VigilantePsure were to start looking08:09
VigilanteP:)08:10
varunbazhang, nothing08:10
bazhangvarun, what buttons are you talking about then08:10
ObrienDavevarun==> when you right click on the panel, do you see a menu?08:10
varunbazhang, only a solid color screen08:11
varunObrienDave , nope08:11
auronandacevarun: perhaps taking a screenshot will explain the situation better08:11
varunbazhang, that appears on top right corner08:11
taomilihello08:11
bazhangvarun, screenshot please08:11
varunauronandace , sure08:11
varunin a minute08:12
panda110Hi08:12
varunhey can anyone tell me where to upload the screen shots08:14
DJones!imagebin | varun08:14
ubottuvarun: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.08:14
varunroger that08:14
john_johnWow, KDE looks amazing08:15
ResagerWhen ubuntu replace X? 14.04?08:15
ObrienDavexfce looks better. pffffft ;)08:15
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aeon-ltdResager: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_%28display_server%29#Display_servers08:16
aeon-ltdResager: that's a summary of mir so far08:18
varunhttp://imagebin.org/269915 ,,,,, http://imagebin.org/269916...   there r 2 images one is full screen and other is of top left corner08:18
Resageraeon-ltd: i can use openbox on this? :)08:18
dr_willisResager:  mir has a xmir thing..08:19
freakynl_Hi, can anyone make anything of this? http://pastebin.ca/2443956 not sure if it's in the mirror08:19
the-newsmanhi all, what can i do to solve  problems as in this link http://www.fpaste.org/37235/36913313/ ?08:19
dr_willismir is very much a work in progress.  but  you can play with it in 13.10 a bit08:19
ObrienDavevarun==> you need to expand that panel to 100% width08:20
varunbazhang , ObreinDave , i've snd the link08:20
the-newsmandr_willis,08:20
the-newsmandr_willis,  any suggestions for me ?08:20
aeon-ltdthe-newsman: get the keys?08:20
varunwhat should i do then08:20
the-newsmanaeon-ltd,  i dunno what do u mean08:20
aeon-ltdthe-newsman: read the lines you posted08:20
the-newsmanhow to get the keys and isntall them08:20
aeon-ltdno idea08:21
aeon-ltdnever used rpm properly before08:21
ObrienDavevarun==> try to right click between the icons. you should get a menu eventually08:21
aeon-ltdthe-newsman: you should really ask in a fedora channel08:21
ObrienDavevarun==> it can be touchy finding the right spot08:21
the-newsmanwhy fedora ?08:22
the-newsmani am using now ubuntu08:22
varunObrienDave, nothing is happening08:22
varuneven after clicking08:22
aeon-ltdthe-newsman: isn't rpm for fedora's package manager?08:22
varunright and left buttons08:22
the-newsmanno as far as i know. it is for all *nix08:22
varunObrienDave,  any command line workout for this08:23
dr_williserr.. rpm is definatly NOT for all *nix08:23
ObrienDavevarun==> not that i know of, sorry08:23
dr_willisand you really really dont want to use rpms on ubuntu08:23
DJonesthe-newsman: Ubuntu doesn't use rpm's08:23
DJones!rpm | the-newsman08:23
ubottuthe-newsman: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !dpkg, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported)08:23
varuncan any one here help me out on this08:23
the-newsmanDJones,  ok.. but the rpm works on ubuntu and its problem is not "workign on ubuntu" but for missing key as shown in http://www.fpaste.org/37235/36913313/08:24
varun??08:24
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ObrienDavevarun==> try between, on each end, can you get to setting manager?08:25
Jobin_Sun1How do create package installation for all linux distros08:25
dr_willisJobin_Sun1:  'all' disrtos is quite a broad range.08:26
varunObrienDave, let me see if i can08:26
DJonesthe-newsman: I've never needed to use rpm's, hopefully somebody else will be able to help, but bear in mind that its generally not supported so you may not find many people with experience here08:26
Jobin_Sun1ubuntu , red hat , centos is enough08:26
dr_willisJobin_Sun1:   commonly done is a tar.gz of the precompiled binaries that are staticly compiled.08:26
dr_willisbest is have a .deb for ubuntu and .rpm for  redhat and so forth08:26
dr_williseven better - would be have a ppa for ubuntu.08:27
Jobin_Sun1i try static complied , but it's not stable ,08:27
ObrienDaveoops, cut myself off. lol08:27
the-newsmanDJones,  can i /pm u ?08:27
dr_willisJobin_Sun1:  that would be about as stable as it can get from what ive read.  perhaps you are doing it wrong.  I dont develop any more. ;) been ages08:27
Jobin_Sun1it's died when run a while08:29
DJonesthe-newsman: Better sticking in the channel so that otehr people can jump in with support08:29
varunObrienDave, i got it08:29
varunnow what08:29
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varunObrienDave, i got settings manager08:29
ObrienDavevarun==> under panel prefs, ...08:30
the-newsmanok08:30
ObrienDavevarun==> just a sec08:30
varunokk08:30
ObrienDavevarun==> look for panel, .....08:30
ObrienDavevarun==> display,.....08:31
varunObrienDave, yes display08:31
varunObrienDave, now what08:31
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the-newsmanDJones,  look at that. http://www.fpaste.org/37237/37836990/08:32
ObrienDavevarun==> length, 100% and check automatically increase length08:32
the-newsmani am still stuck to the missing or wrong key problem08:32
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the-newsmanany1 here interested to support me to udnerstand RPM's ?08:32
DJonesthe-newsman: I'm afraid thats beyond me, its not something I've ever looked at or seen, hopefully somebody else can assist08:33
bazhangthe-newsman, how is that related to Ubuntu support at all08:33
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the-newsmanbazhang,  i am tryign to install myfile.rpm and it fails08:33
ObrienDavebazhang==> because he's running ubuntu08:33
the-newsmani am using ubuntu08:33
bazhangthe-newsman, trying how08:33
DJonesthe-newsman: If you're installing deluge, why aren't you using the version in the UBuntu repositories08:34
varunObrienDave, im getting resolution ,rotation , detect display08:34
delinquentmeLulzzz OK o ubuntu 10.04 .>> 12.04 is this a clean upgrade?08:34
delinquentmeor should I wipe and reinstall?08:35
bazhangdelinquentme, yes08:35
delinquentmebazhang, that was a binary08:35
delinquentmenot a yes or no :P08:35
the-newsmanDJones,  cuz the point is how to use rpm to install files. deluge is just an example of bittorrent client08:35
bazhangdelinquentme, Yes to #1 of your binary08:35
ObrienDavevarun==> go back to settings manager and look for panel first. then display tab08:36
varunokk08:36
bazhangthe-newsman, its a terrible practice, not something you should ever be *used to*08:36
the-newsmanbazhang,  but it is prt of the Linux+ certifiation is to get practicing on such packaging tools such as rpm, yum etc08:36
bazhangthe-newsman, especially for things that are not *absolutely* necessary08:37
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delinquentmebazhang, it upgrades correctly?08:37
varun ObrienDave, after checking for panel i got only display08:37
delinquentmebazhang, I find this almost hard to believe...08:37
ObrienDaveok, hang on08:37
varunhmm08:37
bazhangdelinquentme, it's a one step upgrade08:37
bazhangdelinquentme, back up in all cases, if you are concerned (or not)08:38
ObrienDavevarun==>  dang, i'm on Xubuntu. give me a sec08:38
varunokk08:39
universali downloaded a lot of pics and transfered them to my usb drive......but only a few got transfered and rest disappeared ! why and how to get back the rest ?08:41
ObrienDavevarun==> can you get to settings editor? not settings manager08:41
dr_willisuniversal:  you did unmount/eject the device befor unplugging it?08:41
varunObrienDave, after giving xrandr i got DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)08:42
universaldr_willis: i did nothing but usb got dismounted by itself 2-3 times08:42
dr_willisuniversal:  sounds like the usb, or filesystem, or port. may  be having hardware issue to me then08:43
ObrienDavevarun==> no, xrandr is for multiple monitors. this is different08:43
varunObrienDave, okk08:44
universaldr_willis: the front end plastic of usb connection port is damager a lil bit.....so it becomes loose at times.....but now how to  get those pics back ? they are already moved so not shown in home folder and not in usb also08:44
varunObrienDave , where i can found it08:44
dr_willisuniversal:  if it failed at the wrong time, they could be gone.08:45
universaldr_willis: recovery ?08:45
dr_willisuniversal:  if you are lucky they are in the users trash directory08:45
ObrienDavevarun==> how did you get to settings manager?08:45
dr_willisuniversal:  theres ddrescue, but again. if they never got written to the usb to begin with. they may be gone08:45
universaldr_willis: nothing in trash....i have set it to directly delete everything08:46
ObrienDaveoops08:46
universaldr_willis: ooo....and recovery from home folder ?08:46
dr_willis!undelete08:46
ubottuSome tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel08:46
dr_willisgood luck undeleteing stuff... ive never seen it work.08:46
ObrienDavevarun==> do you see anything in settings manager that says panel?08:47
universaldr_willis: my bad luck.....I think the best is to re-download those pics....and what were trying to point at with unmount/eject before unplugging ? any problem unplugging without unmount/ejecting ?08:48
universalyou*08:48
varunObrienDave, i got apps , desktop, schemas, system08:49
ObrienDaveuniversal==> YES, sometimes write cache has not finished writing ALL of the file data08:49
dr_willisuniversal:  if you count total data loss and file sysem as a 'problem' Yes....    always properly unmount decices.. even under windows..08:49
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varunObrienDave, which one i should select08:50
ObrienDavelet's try them all. look for panel or something like that08:50
varuni got it08:50
universalwhen first i was transfering it didn't tranfer anything at all but displayed error that destination is unreacheable.....so i removed and reattached usb 2-3 then transfered the files08:50
varunit is in desktop - inus08:50
varunnow what08:50
varunObrienDave, now what08:51
dr_willisuniversal:  i think that would have triggered a big  'red flag' that the usb was not to be trusted08:51
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ObrienDaveok! in there you should be able to find the length settings for your panel. it should be panel 008:51
ROT13`hi08:52
ROT13`anyone here?08:52
MrQuistnope08:52
ObrienDavevarun==> set length to 100%08:52
dr_willisROT13`:  if all 1000+ of us say no.....08:52
universaldr_willis: any way to check if the usb is healthy or not ? any app or other way ?08:52
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dr_willisuniversal:  you just sort of described that its not to be trusted..08:52
ROT13`lol08:52
ObrienDaveROT13`==> no one here but us chickens LOL08:53
ROT13`haha08:53
dr_willis!ask08:54
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:54
varunObrienDave, i gotcustom font, lookup table orientation, show, show icon on systray, show im name , custom font, x, y08:54
varunObrienDave, no lenght08:54
universalhow to use geolue service ?08:55
ObrienDavevarun==> dang, been too long since I ran Ubuntu. There has to be something in there somewhere. At least I think so08:55
varunObrienDave, i'm cross checking on 2 machines and they are showing same result, if i was wrong08:56
universal!geoclue08:56
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fideluniversal: what are you trying to do?08:56
universalnothing.....I am trying to find out whats the use of geoclue service and how to use it08:57
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ObrienDavevarun==> do both machines look that way now?08:57
varunyes08:57
varuni'm getting stretch option08:58
varunbut that is already enabled08:58
dr_willisi wonder how many in here have even heard of geoclue   -    sounds like some   geography quiz show.08:58
blazemoreuniversal: Yes, but why? What would be a sucesful outcome for you?08:58
universalotherwise I'm already in mood to do anything after loosing 1 hour of work in transfering file to damaged usb disk08:58
fideluniversal: i am asking as you mentioned once 'geolue' later 'geoclue' ...and i've never seen such a cmd used inhere.08:58
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ObrienDavevarun==> ok, stretch is a step in the right direction08:58
dr_willis!find geoclue08:59
ubottuFound: geoclue, geoclue-examples, geoclue-ubuntu-geoip, libgeoclue-dev, libgeoclue0, geoclue-geonames, geoclue-gpsd, geoclue-gsmloc, geoclue-gypsy, geoclue-hostip (and 6 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=geoclue&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all08:59
dr_willis!info geoclue08:59
ubottugeoclue (source: geoclue): Geographic information framework. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.99-0ubuntu2 (raring), package size 22 kB, installed size 101 kB08:59
fidelgeographic framework ...i see08:59
universalits geoclue or geoip service with link geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup08:59
dr_willisoh look.. it says im on easter island.. ;)09:00
universallol...I have a female friend there...haha09:00
ObrienDavedr_willis==> bunny hopping??? LOL09:00
dr_williswhen in fact im on  Haloween Island. ;PP09:01
ROT13`lmao09:01
universalanyways whats its use and how to use it ? coz its shown nowhere in ubuntu but its service enabled in dconf09:01
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blazemoreuniversal: It's used by applications that use your location09:01
universalso its much better if i disable it so that apps no longer get my location info09:02
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blazemoreuniversal: Well that would depend if you would use it or not09:02
spobat_hello09:02
universalI hope datetime service doesnt uses it to get users local location and time09:02
blazemoreWhy not? That's exactly the sort of thing it's for09:02
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universalbut its written nowhere that datetime service uses it......it has its own individual service09:03
blazemoreIt's publically available information based only on your IP address, it's not like you're leaking any less information by disabling it09:03
universalblazemore: i know....but i just came across it.....so wondering why its enabled when its not mentioned anywhere in ubuntu other than its service name in dconf09:04
blazemoreuniversal: For example, I can see you're connecting from Hoshiarpur in the Punjab region of India09:04
universalhahaha09:04
* dr_willis puts on his tinfoil hat09:04
universalwell I'm surely a thousand miles away ffrom that place09:05
blazemoreuniversal: Well, that's where geoip services place your IP09:05
* dr_willis rerouts to the proxy severs on the platues of leng.09:05
universalblazemore: meaing its scrambling my ip to my location ?09:06
blazemoreuniversal: I'd recommend moving this discusson to #ubuntu-offtopic really09:06
VigilantePbazhang: !md509:06
VigilanteP!md509:06
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows09:06
universallol...ok09:06
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VigilantePbazhang: arg, lost that link form before and dont know how you did that command09:07
spobat_roughly, how many LOC has the current ubuntu version?09:07
VigilanteP!hashes09:07
universalLOC ?09:07
ubottuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of all downloadable Ubuntu releases09:07
fidellines of code09:07
VigilantePthanks09:08
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blazemorespobat_: The kernel alone has 15 million09:08
ObrienDavevarun==> any luck finding the panel width setting?09:10
spobat_blazemore: yeah, but ubuntu has probably a lot more09:10
spobat_with x11, DE, utilities09:10
blazemorespobat_: Well Ubuntu includes the kernel, and many applications and libraries, so of course it will09:11
blazemore!ot | spobat_09:11
ubottuspobat_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:11
spobat_blazemore: it are almost 16m btw09:11
spobat_(15.8)09:11
universalhow much code is ubuntu specific or its totally a debian traformation ?09:12
blazemoreDebian and Ubuntu both package their own stuff09:12
universalpackaging is just packing of code.....09:13
Longgeekhi09:13
reisiouniversal: ? :p09:14
fidelhi - i sm realizing via mail.log that the package ssmtp is trying to send mails. is there a way to troubleshoot what was causing this mail? as in: which app is trying to use ssmtp to send a mail in the first place?09:14
universalreisio: ??09:15
reisio:)09:15
universalis wondering what happened09:16
blazemorefidel: Does the contents of the mail not give a clue?09:16
fidelblazemore: well the mail seems not to be successfully sent09:16
fidelso - i dont know how to access those mails in the first place to read em ;)09:16
nerdtronfidel, can you post the mail logs?09:17
reisiouniversal: very little is Ubuntu specific, on the whole09:17
ObrienDavefidel==> any decent text editor should be able to view the actual Email file09:17
universaldoing ps aux | grep mailclientname will show the app trying to use mail client ?09:17
universalreisio: such a wonder answer after :P and :)...thnx lol09:18
universalwonderful*09:18
fidelObrienDave: i see the mail via mail.log on my client - which is sending this mail as root@host... - the mail hangs finaly in my mailserver - where i cants access it inside the queue09:18
fidelor - dont know how to do so09:18
fidelnerdtron: focusing on mail.log?09:18
reisiouniversal: yeah that was in response to 'packaging is just packing of code.....' :)09:19
universallol09:19
nerdtronyup..you say it is sending on your mail server right?09:19
fidelnerdtron: yep09:19
nerdtronwhat is ithe log on the mail server about this "root@host..." email?09:20
kimdahi. I 've got ubuntu 12.04 running as a kvm guest and am experiencing networking issues. I can ping certain domains while others cannot be reached from the guest. On the kvm host I am not experiencing any issues. Any ideas what could be causing this?09:26
fidelnerdtron: what i can see on the mailserver-side is that the mail has an invalid sender domain.09:27
fidelagain checking mail.log09:27
nerdtronfidel, what is your question again? you are finding which program sends this email?09:27
fidelnerdtron: yes - i would like to know which app is trying to send those mails - whichout having an exmaple mail to read from09:28
nerdtronfidel, sorry i misunderstood....now do you identified already the host in which this email came from?09:29
fidelyes09:29
fideland i know that this host is using the package ssmtp to send09:29
nerdtronfidel, invesstigate that machine, you might want to chekc the crontab if there are any cron that sends email09:30
fidellooks like first mail is send pretty much after reboot09:30
nerdtronwhat packages did you last installed in that host?09:30
fidelthats wild guessing - as the mails appear since a longer period09:30
nerdtronhmmm....check the mail.log and the syslog of the host to see any mail activity09:32
IamTryinghttp://i.imgur.com/4BUVtws.png - Like flooding i have this tail -f /var/tmp/syslog, how can i stop this overflow which is causing system crash and SSH login to be frozen.09:33
blazemore!details | IamTrying09:34
ubottuIamTrying: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:34
fidelthe only mail-functionality i am using which i know of is mdadm - but those mails are send successfully09:34
nerdtronfidel, i have an idea, do you know the recipient of the root@localhost email?09:35
nerdtroni mean you can see that in the logs? right09:35
IamTryingblazemore, I have a problem with OpenSSH and Ubuntu, I am running Ubuntu version 12.04 64-bit, When i try to SSH the box it never able to give me access, i get the following output: http://i.imgur.com/4BUVtws.png  while tail -f /var/log/syslog, but i expected it to do no flooding like this http://i.imgur.com/4BUVtws.png09:35
cagriUbntuhey guys, does any of you have any experience at connecting through VPN with ubuntu 13.0409:36
maizcagriUbntu: you can use network manager to connect to a vpn09:36
nerdtronfidel let the email pass the mail server and read the email when it is received :)09:36
nerdtronIamTrying, your image, i can't view it09:36
blazemoreIamTrying: It looks like there might be a bug in the kernel with a fix scheduled for Ubuntu 13.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/120761209:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1207612 in linux (Ubuntu) "046d:0825 Using webcam fills log with xhci_hcd errors" [Medium,Fix released]09:36
cagriUbntumaiz, i tried that, but it wont connect. it says connecting failed09:36
maizcagriUbntu: did you import some ovpn file?09:37
cagriUbntumaiz, no i have not. but my school havent told me to do eithe09:37
cagriUbntur09:37
maizwhat files did they gave you?09:37
maizgive09:38
cagriUbntuno files09:38
ThamerHello.09:38
cagriUbntuan adress09:38
cagriUbntuand a username/passwor09:38
cagriUbntud09:38
IamTryingblazemore, that is what i was expecting this USB issue is breaking my whole project. thank you09:38
maizcagriUbntu: did they say if it was openvpn or some other vpn?09:38
the-newsmandoes any1 know how to use rpm efficiently ?09:39
Thameruse the command, < man >.09:40
blazemoreYou shouldn't use rpm on Debian systems like Ubuntu, the-newsman - what are you trying to do?09:40
ThamerThis is helpful.09:40
cagriUbntumaiz: no, but i tried them all. it tries to connect, but keeps disc. then suddently it says vpn failed09:40
the-newsmanblazemore,  i am stuck in installing package. found myself dived into keys etc etc09:40
maizcagriUbntu: hm sorry i don't know then09:41
the-newsmanblazemore,  can i /msg u to keep track what i am doing ?09:41
blazemorethe-newsman: Yeah but what are you actually trying to do?09:41
blazemorethe-newsman: No, please keep it in channel09:41
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IamTryingblazemore, can i try kernel http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ? to fix that temporary with 12.04 64-bit? (i have many other devices and they were stable in kernel 3.5.0-23-generic )09:42
the-newsmansee that blazemore  http://www.fpaste.org/37251/37837414/09:42
blazemoreIamTrying: I suppose you could try it09:42
blazemorethe-newsman: Why are you installing deluge from an rpm?09:43
the-newsmanblazemore,  i am already on root account09:43
blazemorethe-newsman: sudo apt-get install deluge09:43
IamTryingblazemore, will updating the kernel, also later cause trouble with my other frameworks such as vlc/mplayer/gstreamer packages?09:43
the-newsmanblazemore,  cuz i want to practice on using rpm. what is wrong to use one of linux tools ?09:43
blazemoreIamTrying: Probably not, and you can always boot back to a different older kernel09:43
blazemorethe-newsman: Use a different distro like Fedora or OpenSuse which is rpm-based09:44
maizhi, i'm on kubuntu 13.04, and when i'm connected to an openvpn server with the network-manager; i cannot connect anymore to programs like: pidgin, konversation, kvirc, it founds the server, but gets stuck on "Connecting..."; browsing works fine; what could be causing this? thanks09:44
the-newsmanblazemore,  rpm is one of Linux+ certification09:44
IamTryingblazemore, OK i will try the new kernel and see if it fix and will let you know09:44
blazemorethe-newsman: Do you see where it says: However assuming you know what you are doing...09:44
blazemorethe-newsman: Don't continue if you can't allow it to make that assumption (hint: you can't it seems)09:44
the-newsmanso what is my problem ?09:44
blazemoreif you want Deluge, install it from the repositories. if you want to learn how to use RPM, install Fedora or CentOS in a virtual machine09:45
the-newsmanand how to solve it09:45
blazemoreyour solution is the command: sudo apt-get install deluge09:45
the-newsmanalright09:45
DJonesthe-newsman: You would be better installing something like Fedora in virtualbox to learn how to use rpm's, that way you'll be learning on a distro that supports them properly rather than learning how to do it by fiddling on Ubuntu09:45
the-newsmanok09:46
the-newsmandoes yum work the same ?09:46
the-newsmani mean on fedora09:46
blazemorethe-newsman: yum is like apt-get09:46
nerdtronthe-newsman, yum install deluge09:46
the-newsmanblazemore,  does it work perfectly on ubuntu ?09:46
blazemorethe-newsman: No, it doesn't work at all without serious hackery09:47
blazemoreIf you need to work with rpms, you need to not be using Debian/Ubuntu09:47
the-newsmanhackery ?09:47
blazemoredifficult configuration09:47
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rdw200169blazemore: there is also alien09:49
SkizuHey I'm using phpDocumentor and I'm getting a unserialization failed message and nothing more, anyone know how I can get any details as no error files appear to be made09:49
cutierdw200169: That's true although I've never managed to make it work properly09:49
blazemorerdw200169: sorry wrong client09:49
varunObrienDave, i'm stuck09:50
varunObrienDave, nothing useful found09:50
the-newsmanblazemore,  listne dude./ fedora is abt 1 giga . so it will need soemtime to be downloaded. can u tell me meanwhile what is my problem with the error msg u saw in fpaste ?09:51
blazemorethe-newsman: The error message is, you are trying to fit a part for a Ford onto a Citroen09:51
ObrienDavevarun==> dang. I haven't used Ubuntu in such a long time, I'm out of ideas. I know it's just a panel setting. Just don't know where it is09:51
rdw200169the-newsman: blazemore: reading back tho, if you want to work with rpm's and whatnot for that Linux+ cert (which for all intents and purposes is completely useless unless a future employer is asking for it) use Fedora/CentOS09:51
rdw200169the-newsman:09:51
varunObrienDave, i 'll check if there is any09:52
blazemorevarun: Fill me in, what are you trying to do?09:52
the-newsmani like Ford and BMW09:52
blazemorethe-newsman: Did you install deluge by the package manager? Did it work?09:52
varunblazemore, trying to get my destop09:53
rdw200169the-newsman: I would suggest CentOS only b/c that is what most companies (I've worked with anyway) use that don't want/need RedHat licensing09:53
the-newsmanblazemore,  i told u. deluge is nothign for me except an example for using rpm. just dummy target09:53
SkizuHey I'm using phpDocumentor and I'm getting a unserialization failed message and nothing more, anyone know how I can get any details as no error files appear to be made09:54
blazemoreSkizu: What does the message say exactly?09:54
blazemore!details09:54
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:54
IamTryingblazemore, trying to install the latest kernel but dependency problem showing , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6065902/09:54
blazemoreIamTrying: Where did you get the deb from?09:55
Skizublazemore:  [ErrorException]   unserialize(): Error at offset 838 of 2258 bytes09:55
IamTryingblazemore, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/09:56
blazemoreIamTrying: No don't do that09:56
IamTryingblazemore, where else then09:56
maizhi, i'm on kubuntu 13.04, and when i'm connected to an openvpn server with the network-manager; i cannot connect ping any server (even though the ip address is resolved) what can i do?09:56
the-newsmanblazemore,  can i use alien to convert the deluge first to deb hence use dpkg next ?09:56
MonkeyDustIamTrying  saucy is not yet stable09:56
blazemoreOh hang on, IamTrying did you download all the debs? You need 3 of them09:56
IamTryingblazemore, wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-rc1-saucy/linux-headers-3.11.0-031100rc1-generic_3.11.0-031100rc1.201307141935_amd64.deb;  wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-rc1-saucy/linux-image-3.11.0-031100rc1-generic_3.11.0-031100rc1.201307141935_amd64.deb; sudo dpkg -i linux*.deb09:57
blazemoreMonkeyDust: He wants to try to backport its kernel because there's a recent bug which was fixed in it09:57
IamTryingblazemore, i got always 2 only09:57
blazemoreIamTrying: Look at what the error is saying. You need http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/linux-headers-3.11.0-031100_3.11.0-031100.201309021735_all.deb09:57
IamTryingMonkeyDust, not problem just want to make sure that /var/log/syslog is not getting flood09:57
blazemoreIamTrying: Expect interesting things to break, but you can boot the old kernel if they do09:58
roninnshouldn't this work when added to /etc/profile (for all users): export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin09:58
_jordan_Hello everyone, I'm tying to install ubuntu 13.04 on a packard bell laptop with the 64 bits DVD. After boot on the text-mode, the DVD drop into a black screen if I choose 'Try ubuntu' or 'Install ubuntu'. I think the graphic card could be the problem, that's an nvidia GeForce 520M09:58
the-newsmanblazemore,  see that http://www.fpaste.org/37253/78375134/09:59
blazemore_jordan_: Does the system have a make and model?09:59
blazemorethe-newsman: OK that worked without any problems, try installing the deb now. Although there's a perfectly good deb in the repositories...09:59
_jordan_blazemore: That's an easyNote TS09:59
the-newsmanbut there r many warnings/ does that tell u anything ?10:00
blazemorethe-newsman: They're just warnings about unsigned packages. What are you trying to achieve here?10:00
cagriUbntucan anyone help me install eclipse10:00
blazemore!details | cagriUbntu10:00
ubottucagriUbntu: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:00
maizhi, i'm on kubuntu 13.04, and when i'm connected to an openvpn server with the network-manager; i cannot connect ping any server (even though the ip address is resolved) what can i do?10:01
the-newsmanblazemore,  to install deluge by using dpkg. just to avoid the direct usage of rpm10:01
iceroot_is there a tool to monitor the traffic on a specific device for a specific time-window (including reboots in that window)10:01
blazemorethe-newsman: You can do that by the command "sudo apt-get install deluge"10:02
blazemorethe-newsman: That will download a deb file which has been built by the Ubuntu packaging team, and install it10:02
the-newsmanhttp://www.fpaste.org/37255/37531413/10:02
the-newsmanblazemore,  see that plz  http://www.fpaste.org/37255/37531413/10:02
blazemorethe-newsman: Stop doing what you're doing10:02
blazemorethe-newsman: Run the command "sudo apt-get install deluge"10:02
blazemoreI am not going to progress any further with your problem because we'll go round in circles10:03
rdw200169the-newsman: yeah, you're just gonna run into a ton of rules file problems that don't match up with the way it was packaged as an rpm10:03
VigilantePI'm trying to boot into the installer from the custom section of UBCD, have verified the MD5 and corrected the previous problem, same result.  Shell with the error (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system10:03
the-newsmanrdw200169,  u mean, even using alien wonnt work as long as the soruce is .rpm, yes ?10:04
blazemorethe-newsman: That deluge rpm was not packaged for Ubuntu. so no, it probably won't work.10:04
blazemorethe-newsman: All alien does is convert packaging formats10:04
the-newsmando u mean, the .rpm must compile the application for every flavour in linux ?10:05
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Skizublazemore: No idea?10:05
blazemorethe-newsman: Somebody compiled the deluge source code and packaged the resulting files, along with configuration and dependency information, into an rpm, designed to be installed on Fedora or similar10:05
blazemoreSkizu: Sorry no :|10:06
Skizublazemore: Damn10:06
_jordan_I precise than the DVD works on an other PC and automatically boot in graphical mode instead of text mode10:07
VigilantePIs it wrong to assume that I can boot from USB into the installer regardless of the currrent partitioning of my HDD?10:07
rdw200169the-newsman: not 'necessarily'… sometimes it works, sometimes it don't ;)  heck, even ubuntu packages generally have to be massaged by someone to work on ubuntu, even tho Debian is what Ubuntu is generally based off of (most Ubuntu packages originate from Debian)10:08
nerdtronVigilanteP, you can boot to USB even without hard drives10:08
RandomLinuxUserI have got a lot of usefull .html files (i.e. in directories like /usr/share/docs). Is there a way to search trought them with some kind of a search engine for my web browser ? ( Something like google/duckduckgo for my local html documentations )10:09
nerdtronRandomLinuxUser, what do you want to search in them?10:09
VigilantePnerdtron: Yes, but it seems to be failing due to the state of the HD.  But I don't know what "live file system" means10:09
nerdtronhow did you say it is failing dur to the state of the HD?10:10
RandomLinuxUsernerdtron: Texts and patterns. All the stuff which is already on my disk, like how-to's and tutorials. Some kind of a fallback-internet10:10
VigilantePnerdtron: I had no idea what to do to the disk but thought the installer would guide it along, at least the instructions on the ubuntu site seem to suggest it\10:11
nerdtronRandomLinuxUser, you can use grep to search those docs10:11
rdw200169RandomLinuxUser: are you against searching in the command line?10:11
rdw200169RandomLinuxUser: you could use a oneshot as simple as $ egrep -r '<regex>' /usr/share/docs/10:12
MonkeyDustRandomLinuxUser  try this in the html dolder       grep -r "blah" *10:12
MonkeyDustfolder*10:12
RandomLinuxUserrdw200169: no but i prefer to have everything in my browser. And grep gives me too much output10:12
nerdtronVigilanteP, so you have booted into live USB and you can't open your hard drives? is that it?10:12
RandomLinuxUserand grep dont use cache. It searches everytime in realtime10:12
VigilantePnerdtron:  I think I downloaded the wrong iso...  This is the one for dual boot with windows isn't it.. :/10:13
rdw200169RandomLinuxUser: heh, now you're getting into what Lucene/Solr/elasticsearch solves …10:13
LudovikI'm a little confused re: packages. Would the same packages work on Xubuntu and Lubuntu if I wanted to try both LXDE and XFCE? Sorry, just made the switch.10:13
RandomLinuxUserrdw200169: ty, i will take a look at these10:14
DJonesLudovik: Yes they should do, the packages for both will come from the same repositories10:14
VigilantePnerdtron:  Wait am I even in the right place10:14
ObrienDaveLudovik==> up to a point. you would need both lxde and xfce desktop support10:14
nerdtronVigilanteP, i'm not sure about that :)10:15
LudovikSo I'd install the whole desktop packages eh? So I might need both Xubuntu and Lubuntu.10:15
VigilantePnerdtron:  Ubuntu does NOT require windows correct... I mean, i thought I was pretty sure about that10:15
rdw200169nerdtron: it absolutely does not.  That would be a violation of Bug 110:16
nerdtronVigilanteP, yes, It does not requrie windows. but even if was able to boot into USB, you may still not be able to access your hard drives in the file manager10:16
LudovikI really just wanted to see what the UI for XFCE looks like and try it without having to install 10,000 packages that seem to come with Xubuntu.10:16
rdw200169nerdtron: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/110:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]10:17
nerdtronrdw200169, I'm not the one asking10:17
nerdtronVigilanteP, if you hard drive partitions are corrupted, you won't be able to access them10:18
rdw200169nerdtron: well played… VigilanteP: all that stuff I just said to nerdtron10:18
VigilantePnerdtron:  I'm just trying to do a pure Ubuntu install on this, have no experience whatsoever, as may have noticed... but it specifically fails because it doesn't detect windows.  I'm just not sure how to get one that doesnt presume windows10:19
VigilantePrdw200169:  I played well?  Thank you!10:19
_jordan_I found the problem, nouveau can't run on my graphic card, that's why I can't run the ubuntu installation. Can I blacklist nouveau for the installation an use the nvidia driver10:19
VigilantePrdw200169:  I try to stay competitive10:19
rdw200169VigilanteP: actually nerdtron did insofar that he called me out; regardless, you may be on the wrong iso ;)10:20
VigilantePndw200169:  Oh i'm certain of that10:20
LudovikAh. I was able to install XFCE independently of the desktop package.10:21
VigilantePndw200169:  I didn't read clearly.. or .. at all apparently, and just grabbed the one marked "Developer" because it sounded like it would come with some fun tools10:21
rdw200169VigilanteP: you should have burned ubuntu-XX.XX-desktop-amd64.iso to a CD10:21
VigilantePrdw200169:  Why would that result in anything different?10:22
rdw200169VigilanteP: the XX.XX is the version of ubuntu you want (i.e. 12.04, 12.04.3, 12.10, 13.04, etc…)10:22
SupaYoshiHello10:22
rdw200169VigilanteP: well, I suppose that can be answered with another question: what ISO did you burn?10:23
SupaYoshiIve a partition (3TB) of a disk, and its a NTFS partition, however the write speed in linux is around 20 MB a second, how can I improve the write performance? And if nesscary can I convert to ext4?10:23
Skizuanyone able to help me with phpDocumentor?10:23
VigilantePrdw200169:  Yeah, I understand versioning.  I just didn't read enough of the text on the page I was downloading from because I thought I knew what I was doing a lot better than I really did10:24
VigilantePrdw200169:  ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd6410:24
ObrienDaveLudovik==> if you want to see XFCE just run the live Xubuntu DVD without installing10:24
LudovikI just installed XFCE from the Synaptic Package Manager. Seems to work fine.10:24
DJonesSupaYoshi: As far as I know, there's no way to convert from NTFS to EXT4 without backing up & reformatting10:25
SupaYoshiawesome np then :)10:25
VigilantePrdw200169:  It mentions "the windows logo", but I thought that was just for the sake of people knowing it woul work on their hardware10:25
SupaYoshiDJones: No way to improve the write performance either?10:25
VigilantePrdw200169:  Basically I don't know what I want10:25
DJonesSupaYoshi: Not sure about that, hopefully somebody else can help you on that point10:26
VigilantePrdw200169:  So I'm going to go back to basics and do some research, thanks for your help10:26
SupaYoshiah ok, well i just noticed that my samba shares with ntfs-3g are 20 MB a second, and ext4 are 100 MB a second ore more10:26
SupaYoshiso im switching10:26
SkizuHey I'm using phpDocumentor and I'm getting a unserialization failed message and nothing more, anyone know how I can get any details as no error files appear to be made? Getting the error [Exception]   Unserialization failed,   [Zend\Serializer\Exception\RuntimeException]   Unserialization failed10:27
rdw200169VigilanteP: no worries; just note that you can install ubuntu lots of ways; one of them is within Windows via WUBI: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-with-windows; You can also install it alongside windows or run it from a VM (VMWare, VirtualBox, etc...)10:27
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TNTSJust finished setting up Ubuntu 13.0410:28
SkizuAppears I may have a pear issue10:30
TNTSGuys, what's a good YouTube Video Downloader/Converter10:31
rdw200169Ludovik: also, you can use tasksel from the terminal to just pick the XFCE and LXCE tasks (much easier and should catch ancillary dependencies)10:31
MonkeyDustTNTS  youtube-dl to download, winff to convert10:34
MonkeyDustTNTS  or minitube to download10:34
TNTSIs All Video Downloader free? It seems to be highly rated in the Software Center10:35
VigilantePrdw200169:  Hey, got up for a sec... I specifically don't want windows on this machine at all.. I wanted to try out Ubuntu because it has limited space both in memory and on disk, how do you usually go about starting from a blank disk and getting to a working Ubuntu install without Windows getting involved10:39
ActionParsnipTNTS: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/allvideodownloader/10:39
ActionParsnipTNTS: so, yes10:39
[Gentoo]VigilanteP: format the drive10:40
[Gentoo]then install ubuntu10:40
ubu_hi10:40
ubu_temperature VGA 65C  , its ok?10:40
TNTSActionParsnip" So.. is it okay?10:40
TNTSubu_,  I think its okay as long as its under 80c but that's just me.10:41
VigilantePHaha... you made it so simple.. But what FS do i use,  how do i partition it, and I can't seem to find ISO's that are independent of Windows unless I'm just blind or losing my mind10:41
[Gentoo]VigilanteP: use ext4, the ubuntu installer should guide you through all that10:41
VigilantePI have ~0 experience outside of Windows10:42
john_johnDoes anyone know where I can find and install the aurorae theme manager?10:42
john_johnengine*10:42
MonkeyDustVigilanteP  ALL distro's are independent of windows10:43
VigilantePJust was curious if it was possible for an OS to not use 2GB of ram just by nature of it's existence :)10:44
VigilantePThere was a boot issue so I used UBCD, stumbled into PartedMagic, which I thought had an impressive amount of function for it10:44
VigilantePit's memory footprint10:44
VigilantePand thought maybe it was time to try something new, but I don't know where to begin10:44
VigilantePOk, then I just don't know what to do at the command line to actually install it10:45
VigilantePwait....10:45
VigilantePYeah, just had to make sure.  No clue10:45
ActionParsnipVigilanteP: use LXDE as DE and OpenBox as WM and it will use very few resources10:45
MonkeyDustVigilanteP  burn iso to dvd or usb - boot from dvd or usb - install ubuntu10:46
[Gentoo]download ubuntu10:46
ActionParsnipVigilanteP: or ditch the DE altogether and just use OpenBox10:46
[Gentoo]burn it to a disc, boot from the disc10:46
[Gentoo]VigilanteP: then you can choose install ubuntu from there, there should be an option to wipe the entire drive10:46
[Gentoo]which is the one you want10:46
[Gentoo]VigilanteP: how much memory does your computer have10:46
FloodBot1[Gentoo]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:46
[Gentoo]VigilanteP: what windows are you running at the moment?10:46
VigilantePactionParsnip: It won't boot into the installer, it leaves me at a shell that I don't know how to use becaues of lack of windows10:46
VigilanteP[Gentoo]: No windows10:46
VigilantePthats the problem i think10:47
VigilantePOr at least with booting into this particular iso10:47
VigilantePI'm booting it out of the UBCD menu, could that be causing an issue?10:47
[Gentoo]VigilanteP: you might have downloaded the wrong installer .iso10:47
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SupaYoshiHi im trying to mount my ext4 partition, but i cant get it to work. Im using the following line: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk1 ext4 defaults 0 010:48
[Gentoo]VigilanteP: go to http://www.lubuntu.net/10:48
[Gentoo]try downloading the first iso10:48
MonkeyDustVigilanteP  i guess you have the server installer, that's no desktop live iso10:48
[Gentoo]what is ubcd10:48
iceroot_is there a tool to monitor the traffic on a specific device for a specific time-window (including reboots in that window)10:48
gordonjcpSupaYoshi: you don't need all the crap at the end10:48
ActionParsnipVigilanteP: did you downlod the server ISO per chance?10:48
VigilantePUltimate Boot CD10:48
gordonjcpSupaYoshi: just sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk110:48
ActionParsnip[Gentoo]: ultimate boot cd is awesome10:48
SupaYoshigordonjcp: thank! testing10:48
SupaYoshithanks...10:49
VigilantePubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd6410:49
VigilantePis what I grabbed10:49
SupaYoshicoming from ntfs thnx ;)10:49
ActionParsnipVigilanteP: ok good start, what GPU do you use>?10:49
ActionParsnipVigilanteP: and do you use that Optimus crap?10:49
[Gentoo]SupaYoshi: do it without the defaults 0 0 line10:49
SupaYoshibut with ext4?10:49
BullSharkwhat's the way to disable a service from auto starting on boot in ubuntu?10:50
VigilantePActionParsnip:  It's an old piece of shit Compaq laptop10:50
VigilantePintegrated intel graphics10:50
VigilantePbut it assures me it will provide smooth HD playback10:50
[Gentoo]SupaYoshi: thats for fstab10:50
[Gentoo]ActionParsnip: o i heard of it10:50
[Gentoo]i thought the UB might have been something to do with ubuntu10:50
[Gentoo]VigilanteP: make sure your comp is 64 bit10:50
[Gentoo]SupaYoshi: "mount" on its own will try to detect the filesystem10:50
[Gentoo]VigilanteP: good luck10:50
blazemoreSupaYoshi: "defaults 0 0" is to be put in fstab not passed to "mount", you've got confused somewhere along the line10:50
VigilantePit is 64 bit'10:50
VigilantePI'm new to linux, not to the world of computers :)10:51
SupaYoshiah but wait10:51
ActionParsnipVigilanteP: intel gpu?10:51
SupaYoshiIm goign to be using this in fstab!10:51
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ActionParsnipVigilanteP: does the system have a make and model?10:51
VigilantePActionParsnip:  I'm afraid so10:51
VigilantePActionParsnip:  Probably10:51
VigilantePActionParsnip:  (im finding it)10:52
SupaYoshiHey what line would I use for /etc/fstab? /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk1/ ext4 defaults 0 010:52
blazemoreSupaYoshi: Exactly that, yes10:52
SupaYoshiwell okay going to try again, that wouldnt work before.10:53
[Gentoo]SupaYoshi: thats fine10:53
[Gentoo]but10:53
[Gentoo]SupaYoshi: dont put mount in fstab10:53
[Gentoo]SupaYoshi: for fstab the line would be: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk1 ext4 defaults 0 010:53
[Gentoo]yea10:53
SupaYoshiBut okay! :) testing.10:53
VigilantePCompaq Presario CQ 6010:53
VigilantePModel: CQ60-615X10:53
VigilantePModel: CQ60-615DX10:53
VigilantePexcuse me10:53
VigilantePI swear the font for the important info on the bottom of this thing is smaller than the text those asian men write on grains of rice10:54
ActionParsnipVigilanteP: yep, intel gpu10:54
VigilantePyes10:54
ActionParsnip!nomodeset | VigilanteP10:54
ubottuVigilanteP: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter10:54
KevinLi#ubuntuphone10:55
VigilantePhmm... not exactly my problem but I'll see what happpens10:55
VigilantePI have a functioning command line, I just don't know what to do tell it to do10:55
SupaYoshimhm im getting permisison denied now when I try to create a folder on the mounted volume?10:55
BullSharkwhat's the way to disable a service from auto starting on boot in ubuntu?10:55
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SupaYoshias a normal user.. with root it goes well , but i wonder how samba will handle that.10:56
blinky_ghostat10:56
ActionParsnipVigilanteP: the CD should boot to a GUI10:56
VigilantePActionParsnip:  That article isn't about my problem10:56
VigilantePit does boot to GUI10:56
ActionParsnipVigilanteP: ok, so what is the issue?10:57
xteamhi10:57
VigilantePthen gets mad that windows isn't there, but I don't see any iso's that don't requrie windows, and i don't know what to do at this command line10:57
VigilanteP(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system aka windows10:57
VigilantePI don't have windows, or want it, I just want ubuntu on this computer10:58
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BullSharkwhat's the way to disable a service from auto starting on boot in ubuntu?10:58
TNTSJust a quickie about this IRC, is this Ubuntu only or is this for Ubuntu-based distros too?10:59
MonkeyDustTNTS  ubuntu only11:00
MonkeyDustTNTS  type /topic11:00
TNTSOkay :)11:00
VigilantePThis can't be that hard can it?  It seems like the site is catering specificially to windows dual booters and doesn't say much about how to do it otherwise11:00
TNTSAh I forgot my bad.11:00
john_johnCan't you just boot from the live cd and install it? It requires windows to be installed?11:01
mydevilrootHello, i have very serious problem with my ubuntu, could anyone help me ?11:01
VigilantePI'm gonna try to pull it out of the UBCD11:01
VigilantePThat's the only possible reason that we have this confusion11:02
lasersmydevilroot: Yes and no. You have to tell us what it is and if we know, we help you.11:02
john_johnDoes anyone know how I can install aurorae based themes?11:02
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ActionParsnipVigilanteP: you dont need windows, you can install ubuntu as the sole OS11:03
TNTSHow do I remove the Ubuntu One System Tray icon?11:03
codephobichi11:03
ikoniajohn_john: aurorae into what ?11:03
VigilantePWhat is initramfs?  Should that be running even?  Why does it care if windows is there11:03
VigilantePok then it must be UBCD11:03
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ActionParsnipVigilanteP: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?11:03
TNTSOkay nevermind.11:03
john_johnikonia: kde11:03
VigilantePYeah11:03
ikoniajohn_john: what's not clear11:03
[Gentoo]VigilanteP: it loads stuff before the kernel11:03
VigilantePUBCD?11:03
ActionParsnipVigilanteP: how did you burn the CD? If you put the CD into a system with an OS do you see lots of files, or just one?11:03
ikoniaVigilanteP: ubcd is nothing to do with ubuntu11:04
VigilantePYeah i know11:04
VigilantePbut it lets you boot from other iso's11:04
john_johnikonia: I want to install these fancy window border themes from kde-look.org but it says that I need the aurorae theme engine for them to work.11:04
ikoniaok, so what's the question ?11:04
codephobicIs anyone else finding ubuntu 13.04 very unstable and buggy? I keep getting crashes - to various services - whenever I boot up into Ubuntu 13.04.11:04
VigilantePlike a custom boot menu11:04
VigilantePBut i think that's why it's failing11:04
VigilantePlol11:04
codephobicI've never had such a buggy/unstable Ubuntu before11:04
codephobiccan't even recall a Linux this buggy since RedHat 7.411:04
ikoniacodephobic: what services ?11:04
ActionParsnipcodephobic: me neither but my needs are simple :)11:04
ikoniaVigilanteP: how does this relate to ubuntu ?11:05
VigilantePI'll do it the proper way instead, I just thought UBCD was widely known and you'd all be familiar with it11:05
ActionParsnipcodephobic: Jaunty was a bit of a mess11:05
VigilantePBecause I'm trying to install ubuntu11:05
john_johncodephobic: yes and yes11:05
ikoniaVigilanteP: ok so how does ubcd relate to this ?11:05
gordonjcpcodephobic: what specifically are you having problems with?11:05
VigilantePBecause I only have one thumb drive11:05
[Gentoo]apt-cache search aurora11:05
[Gentoo]look for engines-aurora or similar11:05
VigilantePAnd need both11:05
ActionParsnipVigilanteP: you don't need the UBCD, the install CD can do all the partitioning you can want11:05
VigilantePI know11:05
codephobicikonia, various different services from gtk apport to blueman-applet (dunno what the hell that does - bluetooth?)11:05
[Gentoo]codephobic: whats the problem11:05
ikoniacodephobic: how do you know they are crashing (can you give a little background/detail please)11:06
mydevilrootlasers:  my compiz is broken, it happens when my system do update of kernel to 2.8.0.x version, and grub update. I format my pc, it was okay, but after the next autoupdate is broken again. Also with the nevest kernel it's getting stuck.11:06
codephobicright now (this specific instance), the applet concerned is "blueman-applet"11:06
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VigilantePI was using it to do diagnostics and then decided to try ubuntu, judging by how simple you all are saying it is I should be talking to the UBCD guys and not you11:06
VigilantePso maybe I came to the wrong place11:06
VigilantePsorry lo11:06
ikoniano problem11:06
codephobicikonia, I just rebooted my system (upgrades) and logged in and ... ubuntu crash warning...11:06
codephobicI usually see atleast 2-3 such warnings (for various services), whenever I reboot.11:07
[Gentoo]the joys of updating11:07
ikoniacodephobic: I appreciate this may not be a fix now, but it's worth noting down which servcices are failing/applets are failing, seeing if it's all the same ones, and then we can address them11:08
ikonia(address them as a problem)11:08
VigilantePIf this means anything to you guys here, this is the config file used for the UBCD custom iso boot i used with ubuntu11:08
VigilantePLABEL -11:08
VigilantePMENU LABEL Ubuntu11:08
VigilantePTEXT HELP11:08
VigilanteP Ubuntu Desktop 13.04 x6411:08
FloodBot1VigilanteP: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:08
lasersmydevilroot: Try reboot and select older kernel to see if it still work or broke. I don't use compiz so I can't really help you. :D11:08
john_johnhmm, nothing happened. For instance, what do I need to install to be able to install this theme? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Tenuto-Oxygen+Aurorae+theme?content=156267 I have the KDE DE11:08
ikoniaVigilanteP: please, this is nothing to do with ubuntu11:08
mydevilrootold kernel also brokes my system, only way is make format11:08
codephobicI do have a slightly complicated setup. I have multiple VMs running, I have apache and mysql running as background daemons, as well as running from some of the vms, I have various network shares setup as well ... so I expect some instability, just that this volume is really surprising.11:09
VigilantePJust wanted to see if that looked like anything to anyone11:09
lasersmydevilroot: Have you tried uninstalling compiz?11:09
ObrienDaveVigilanteP==> please use pastebin for such things. thanks11:09
ikoniacodephobic: your description does not sound complicated11:09
VigilantePI was just curious if those commands meant anything to you guys, and we'd already established a dialogue.. sorry for speaking outside of the demarcation :/11:09
VigilantePyeah11:09
VigilantePok I've bothered you all enough11:09
ikoniacodephobic: and there is no reason to suspect that would cause instability, that's quite a standard setup11:10
codephobicikonia, I'll try and make a note of them. They aren't preventing me from actually doing my work (most of the time), but I'm just bemused by the bugginess of this particular iteration of ubuntu.11:10
VigilantePThanks for the help11:10
mydevilrootlasers:  I read the tutorials on the web I found, but It's not working properly11:10
ikoniacodephobic: make a note - see if it's always the same ones, then we can work out if they are related and work on fixing them11:10
lasersmydevilroot: What tutorial? Link, please.11:10
mydevilrootlasers:  W8 please a second, I will open my second computer to find it11:11
codephobicikonia, most of the crashes centre around the actual gui update program... for weeks since I moved to 13.04, the gui would crash or completely fail to show (I normally use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade)11:11
codephobicbut now that - usually - works, when the system has updates to do11:12
ikoniacodephobic: moved to 13.04....from what ?11:12
codephobicright now, the crash symbol is displaying on the notification area but I can't actually get the crash report to come up. lol - the crash report app has crashed.11:12
codephobicikonia, from 12.1011:12
codephobicI've been upgrading, rather than reinstalling, since ubuntu 10.04.11:13
lasersmydevilroot: I have to go and bike ride with my friend. Apologies. (You probably don't need compiz and there are a good chance that your tutorial is old and outdated and possibly not compatible for Unity.)11:13
ikoniacodephobic: it's possible some left over stuff may cause a problem, especially if you've gone from 10.04 to 13.04 !11:14
codephobicikonia, not directly lol, I mean 10.4 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.0411:15
ikoniacodephobic: still that's a LOT of upgrades with significant changes, especially around the disply/gnome versions/config11:15
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codephobicikonia, I just wanted to avoid having to set things up all from scratch, again.11:16
ikoniacodephobic: I can appreciate that, however that upgrade path in my opinion is not a good route.11:16
ikoniacodephobic: others may disagree,11:16
codephobicikonia, the most confusing thing is that this instability isn't something that's been "growing" over upgrades, but specific to the jump from 11.10 to 12.04.11:17
ikoniacodephobic: I don't think it would grow, it just needs to create something that conflicts/causes a problem and it's there11:17
codephobictrue, I've read other people having issues between upgrades and I can appreciate that there have been big changes in the foundations of the software over the last two upgrades.11:18
judahlionhej, I have a question. Can I use the ati legacy driver 13.1 on ubuntu distros older than 12.04?  If not, are there linux distros that have that driver preinstalled? To install it on 12.04 you have to downgrade the kernel, so I'm looking for an easier way..11:20
codephobicikonia, is there a safe way to copy over settings and "profile" data between installations of ubuntu? specifically I want to have my keyboard shortcuts, my file-associations (ofcourse I will have to reinstall the apps), my headless servers and my fstab and bash aliases ...11:20
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ikoniacodephobic: sure sure, most things can be copied across, it just depends how you've set them how you'll move them over11:21
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codephobicotherwise I'll have to spend 3-4 hours just reconfiguring all these little files11:21
testereri need an app to automount usb drives when they're plugged in, as I have a minimalist ubuntu raring installation which doesn't have automounting.11:21
codephobicI keep back-up copies of my fstab, various apache configs etc etc ... but I have no idea where to get the keyboard short-cuts11:21
testererWhat's the easiest way to achieve automouting without installing an entire desktop environment11:21
ikoniatesterer: then you don't want a minmal install, you want more11:21
ikoniatesterer: install dbus/automounter,11:21
codephobicand the file-preferences also seem to be gui based.11:22
codephobicI would love a "profile transfer" tool ...11:22
ikoniacodephobic: yeah, tha part should be do-able, but how, I'd need to research11:22
codephobicgenerally speaking though, do you find 13.04 a little more buggy?11:23
codephobicthere's no point in doing a fresh install if I'm still going to be dealing with a higher number of bugs and crashes than in previous ubuntus....11:24
ObrienDavecodephobic==> there is if most of the bugs are caused by older distro files11:25
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codephobicObrienDave, hmm I can't honestly say whether or not the majority of my crashes are a result of legacy files.11:26
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codephobicwhen I've looked online, I've seen most advise a clean-install,11:26
codephobicbut I've been reluctant because of the laziness about spending ages with setting up my configuration again.11:27
ObrienDavecodephobic==> that usually works best. hence the clean install advise. lol know the feeling11:27
codephobicI'll do it, because I'm starting to feel irritated by the bugs now, but ... last resort.11:27
judahlioncan someone help me with the following question? Can I use the ati legacy driver 13.1 on ubuntu distros older than 12.04?  If not, are there linux distros that have that driver preinstalled? To install it on 12.04 you have to downgrade the kernel, so I'm looking for an easier way..11:28
codephobick, well I guess I'll have to bite that bullet.11:28
ObrienDavethat's why i stick with Xubuntu. seems to be less problems. just my 2 cents11:28
codephobicthanks guys :)11:28
codephobicI have to say, I'm amazed at how much having a place like this helps me keep from just leaving ubuntu in frustration.11:29
ObrienDavecodephobic==> everyone here appreciates your comments. thanks11:30
ObrienDavejudahlion==> is there any reason you do not want to upgrade to 13.04?11:32
Laurencebhi11:32
Laurencebcan someone help me out with printers?11:33
Laurencebi need to scan a network for print servers11:33
Laurencebcan anyone help me out?11:33
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: you can use the printer set up app, or nmap11:33
ObrienDaveLaurenceb==> just ask the question, please11:33
Laurenceb<ObrienDave>: i used to have a printer setup via a print server11:33
Laurencebcan't see anything now11:34
Laurencebits on a windows network11:34
Laurenceb"Printing- localhost" says it isnt connected11:34
Laurencebsomething seem wrong11:34
Laurencebi clearly have network access11:35
ObrienDavesee ActionParsnip's response. network printers are not my forte. sorry11:36
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: so, connected to a Windows system and shared?11:37
TNTSHi, how do I open WinFF? I saw screenshots of it being on a UI but I get nothing when I search for it11:37
Laurencebtried restarting cups11:37
Laurencebno luck there11:37
judahlionObrienDave: yes, the ati legacy driver 13.1 has problemes with unity in ubuntu 13.0411:37
ActionParsnipTNTS: press ALT+F2 and run it11:38
Laurenceb<ActionParsnip> maybe11:38
Laurencebi dont know the first thing about this11:38
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: you need to clarify that first11:38
Laurencebright11:38
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: does the printer sit no its own or does it have a USB cable connected to a PC?11:38
wodimdoes ubuntu 9.04 clean /tmp on startup ?11:38
Laurencebits a commercial system and theres no staff about :-/11:38
ActionParsnipwodim: Jaunty is EOL11:38
Laurenceb<ActionParsnip>: printer connects to the network11:38
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: you can still check if its connected to a PC via USB11:38
wodimActionParsnip: that's not the question i asked11:38
Laurencebthere is a server in a locked cupboard i cant access11:39
ActionParsnipwodim: the release is offtopic here as it is EOL11:39
TNTSActionParsnip: I got nothing. It says in the Software Center that I have it installed but its not opening11:39
ActionParsnipwodim: thus mooting your question11:39
ubuntuenthguys, how do i make apt-get to install suggested (not recommended) packages by default?11:39
Laurenceb<ActionParsnip>: printer connects to the server via the network11:39
ActionParsnipTNTS: try from terminal11:39
wodimIgnoring ALL from ActionParsnip11:39
jribubuntuenth: man apt_preferences  probabyl explains; don't know offhand11:39
Laurenceb<ActionParsnip>: its some kind of proprietory epson system11:39
TNTSWhat command would I use? ActionParsnip11:39
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: then print a test page from it either via the printer itself or from a system with it configured11:39
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Laurencebi cant access anything11:40
Laurencebhmm this isnt going to go well11:40
ActionParsnipTNTS: type:  win    then press TAB a few times11:40
Laurencebso annoying11:40
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: the printer will be able to print a config page11:40
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: and you can touch the printer, right11:40
Laurencebok lets start with simple stuff first11:40
LaurencebActionParsnip: its locked down with RFID11:40
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: you just need the printer's IP11:40
MonkeyDustwodim  what ActionParsnip says is this: you can no longer ask for help for 9.04, you're on your own11:41
Laurenceball i can do is print to it11:41
ObrienDavewodim==> meaning 9.04 is not supported anymore11:41
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: what is teh make and model of the printer?11:41
Laurencebok lets start with simple stuff first why does the print app say "not connected"11:41
TNTSActionParsnip, it opens up but when I lock it to the launcher and try to execute it, it doesn't open11:41
ActionParsnipwodim: so not ignore, right11:41
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: because its not physically conected, its a netork priner11:41
Laurenceb<ActionParsnip>: thats not going to help, its an epson running custom firmware11:42
wodimok. does the last supported version clean /tmp on startup?11:42
john_johnhow can I check which version of gtk/kde I have?11:42
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: an epson what?11:42
Laurenceb<ActionParsnip>: the printer can only talk to the server11:42
Laurencebits not going to talk to me11:42
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: ok then is it shared on a server PC?11:42
MonkeyDustwodim  you can use a cron task to do it, or move /tmp to tmpfs11:42
Laurenceb<ActionParsnip>: yes11:42
wodimMonkeyDust: that means it's not done automatically?11:42
jribubuntuenth: actually, you probably want to see "man apt.conf" and drop APT::Install-Suggests "1"; in one of your apt.conf files11:42
MonkeyDustwodim  idd11:42
ObrienDavewodim==> not sure about that. most OSes dont clean /tmp11:43
Laurenceb<ActionParsnip>: my first problem is that the printer app is saying "not connected"11:43
Laurencebwhat could cause this11:43
kernel32hi all11:43
Laurencebi think this is part of the problem11:43
ObrienDaveLaurenceb==> could be a network problem altogether11:44
Laurenceb<ObrienDave>: yeah maybe11:44
Laurencebtheres no staff in this place :-/11:44
Laurencebthe voip phones dont work11:44
Laurencebthats not a good sign11:44
ObrienDaveLaurenceb==> We have the same type of system where I work. no network, no connections peroid11:45
Laurencebhmm ill have to try and find a network admin :-/11:46
ObrienDaveLaurenceb==> yup, you'll have to find an IT god to reboot the system11:47
mohamedn3na3aquestion: how can i check my network manager for errors?any help?11:47
kellyhi guys, can i ask here about Ubuntu 13.04 ?11:48
ObrienDaveyes you can11:48
kellysorry i mean 13.1011:48
MonkeyDustkelly  in #ubuntu+111:48
DJoneskelly: #ubuntu+1 for 13.1011:49
ObrienDaveoops, not released yet11:49
kellythanx11:49
kiwitinkerwhat is an easy way to find out what version you have when you have forgotten?11:50
DJones!version | kiwitinker11:50
ubottukiwitinker: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »11:50
kiwitinkerthanks11:50
ObrienDaveall questions should be so easy. lol11:50
kiwitinkeri got syntax error on that11:52
gueneyHi guys, what are the security-related dangers of not having "-nolisten tcp" as your X paramters? I understand that most distros add it by default due to security reasons however I need Xserver listen to some TCP port but am unsure about the security risks11:54
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: can you ping the print server pc?11:54
Laurenceb<ActionParsnip>: i dont know its ip11:55
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: then ask an admin11:55
ObrienDavekiwitinker==> lsb_release -a11:55
Laurencebim the only person in the building :-/11:55
Laurencebfuntimes11:55
kiwitinkerthanks does not seem to work with lubuntu11:55
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ObrienDavekiwitinker==> ask in #lubuntu11:56
kron0slol11:57
slaveohello guys11:57
kiwitinkerok, did not think  something as basic as that would vary between ubuntu and lubuntu11:57
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slaveoi wish u r doing good guys11:58
ObrienDaveit works in Xubuntu11:58
ObrienDavethat's what i'm running11:58
slaveoso i just need help11:58
ActionParsnipLaurenceb: then you are stumped, unless you nmap your network to try and find it11:59
DJoneskiwitinker: Can you pastebin the error message you get when you run the command11:59
Laurenceb<ActionParsnip>: im wondering if my CUPS is broken11:59
Laurencebnothing at localhist:63111:59
Androdidkkkds11:59
Laurenceb*host11:59
slaveoany one help me pleaz12:00
kiwitinkersorry it does work just did not notice the space in front of -a12:00
ObrienDaveslaveo==> please ask the question12:00
Laurencebwtf12:00
slaveoi just installed cinnamon theme to my ubuntu 12.04 while i got it i just receive this error message (Cinnamon just crashed. You are currently running in Fallback Mode)12:00
Laurencebsudo service cups restart  and theres nothing12:00
bazhangslaveo, installed cinnamon from where12:01
slaveo?12:01
Laurencebshould i try to reinstall CUPS?12:02
slaveobazhang what u meant ?12:02
MonkeyDustslaveo  where did you get cinnamon for 12.04?12:02
slaveoi searched it on the site12:03
ActionParsnip!info cinnamon precise12:03
ubottuPackage cinnamon does not exist in precise12:03
ActionParsnip!info cinnamon raring12:03
ubottucinnamon (source: cinnamon): Innovative and comfortable desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.4-1 (raring), package size 607 kB, installed size 2460 kB12:03
ActionParsnipslaveo: you may find a PPA but we cannot support packages from PPAs here12:03
ObrienDaveyou can get cinnamon through synaptic12:03
ActionParsnipObrienDave: not in Precise12:03
MonkeyDustObrienDave  not yet in 12.0412:03
slaveou meant that isnot compatible wi th ubuntu 12.0412:04
ObrienDaveLOL and they wonder why it crashes12:04
ActionParsnipslaveo: its just not in the official repos12:05
ActionParsnipslaveo: you can get the old style desktop by installing gnome-panel and logging off12:05
IamTryingWhy Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit from official website download always changing its kernel? It was stable and now the latest download link is the broken kernel.12:05
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:05
ActionParsnipIamTrying: 3.2 or 3.5?12:05
IamTryingActionParsnip, 3.5 is not anymore available in main download. ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso  (is now to download which has latest kernel) and the stable was ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso12:06
IamTryingActionParsnip, now the download is adding 3.8 which is breaking my hdmi/dvi outputs and also it has problem with some dependency when i needed to install openjdk12:06
slaveoso which one is compatible and how can i find a cool desktop to my ubuntu 12.0412:07
IamTryingActionParsnip, ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso  which is 3.8 is very very very bad version not stable it crashed over and over and i reinstalled back to 3.5 now12:07
MonkeyDustslaveo  'cool' is a matter of taste, start by installing some different !themes12:08
nyuszika7hhi, how can I execute "xset b 100" when Xorg is started? the bell is set to 50% volume by default, which is annoying.12:08
duoihi all. how can i connect to my vpn from the terminal?12:08
lid6j86i had issues with Ubuntu 12.04 and multiple monitors so i moved to 13.04 and it's been working a lot better12:09
slaveook thnks guys12:09
lid6j86i still have issues when monitors are connected to multiple gfx cards but i just moved them all to a single one  (4 monitors)12:09
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litecoinyes12:18
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hxmhello12:19
hxmwhy this http://pastebin.com/tmcrygK412:19
geirhanyuszika7h: how soon? at the login manager? or would after logging in suffice?12:20
litecoin2what's wrong with it?12:20
hxmi want to format it as ntfs12:20
hxmand it appears system linux12:20
nyuszika7hgeirha: after logging in would probably be enough, as I only use the bell for the terminal12:21
nyuszika7heven when just starting the terminal might work, but if there's a better solution...12:21
geirhaThen Startup Applications12:21
ActionPa1sniphxm: you'll need Windows to format NTFS12:21
hxmoh12:22
k5673hxm: It seems you didn't set the filesystem type12:22
hxmk5673: I used mkfs.ntfs -f /dev/sdb112:22
ActionPa1sniphxm: think about what NTFS is, and it's licensing...12:22
hxmso I can read/write ntfs but not create partitions12:22
hxmis that?12:22
litecoin2You can format ntfs from within linux too12:23
k5673hxm: When you use fdisk/cfdisk to create the partition, search for Type and set it to '07'12:23
hxmah, I missed that12:23
ActionPa1sniphxm: yes, the creation will need doing in Windows12:23
k5673hxm: Let me show you with a screenshot12:23
ActionPa1sniplitecoin2: i wouldnt suggest it. NTFS is still proprietary so subtle differences between the data in the Linux formatted partition and the Windows format12:24
ActionPa1sniplitecoin2: may be significant12:24
ActionPa1sniphxm: is the storage to be used in Windows systems as well as Linux?12:25
litecoin2ActionPalsnip: I used ntfs formatted within linux for years and it was fine.12:25
k5673hxm: http://uploadpie.com/SAFrH12:25
litecoin2It was more reliable than using ext3 on windows12:26
hxmah, done!12:26
hxmthanks k567312:26
ActionPa1sniplitecoin2: i wouldnt suggest it personally.12:27
k5673litecoin2 ActionPa1snip hxm: There's no problem formatting a partition using NTFS on Linux! Just set the type and have ntfsprogs installed12:27
k5673hxm: You're welcome!12:27
ActionPa1sniplitecoin2: format ntfs in Windows then use it in both, but the initial filesystem should be made in Windows initially imho12:27
litecoin2k5673: I never said there was :)12:27
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SupaYoshiheya12:35
lid6j86hi12:35
SupaYoshidoes anybody have an idea how I can fix this? :D File "./copyfuse.py", line 16, in <module>    import urllib3 ImportError: No module named urllib312:35
lid6j86is there some way to change my username color here?12:35
blazemorelid6j86: It depends what client you are using, check the documentation for it12:35
SupaYoshii think i need to install python, but im on 12.04 server, should I go with python 3.3.2?12:35
blazemoreSupaYoshi: You have Python, you lack the package "python-urllib3"12:36
SupaYoshior the older python versions?12:36
lid6j86thanks blazemore, it's xchat.  i'm new to ubuntu so i'm still getting a feel for where to find everything12:36
SupaYoshiBlackDex_, thanks!12:36
SupaYoshiBlackDex_ how do i install a package? :D12:36
SupaYoshi*just a package like that. ;) sudo apt-get install python-urllib3?12:36
blazemoreSupaYoshi: blazemore is my name, and it's "sudo apt-get install python-urllib3"12:36
SupaYoshiUnable to locate package python-urllib312:37
SupaYoshisorry blazemore, typed on TAB to fast hehe to type yar name ><12:37
blazemore!info python-urllib3 precise12:37
ubottuPackage python-urllib3 does not exist in precise12:37
SupaYoshishould i add the repo as listed here: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-python-3-3-on-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-and-12-04/12:38
blazemoreOK SupaYoshi there isn't a version of the Python module you need packaged for Ubuntu 12.04. You can install the package from a later version (potentially problems although in this case it'll likely be fine)12:38
mjuszczakI just purged some old kernels and then got a message, something like, /vmlinuz bad link, you may need to update grub12:39
blazemoreSupaYoshi: What is the output of the command   uname -i12:39
themanwithnofacetrying to open a pdf from bash but i get "Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console"  do i have to assign a default program to open with? ccan i do that from bash?12:39
blazemoremjuszczak: try running "sudo update-grub"12:39
blazemorethemanwithnoface: What command are you running to open it?12:39
mjuszczakI googled and got a lot of references to vmlinuz.old, but is /vzlinuz needed?  blazemore: I did, and it ran without error.  I'm scared to reboot though :)12:39
blazemoremjuszczak: If it ran without error you'll be fine to reboot12:40
SupaYoshix86_6412:40
blazemore!grub12:40
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub212:40
SupaYoshisorry was on the phone :)12:40
blazemoremjuszczak: Take a look there first just in case12:40
mjuszczakblazemore: thank you.  Will do.12:40
themanwithnofaceblazemore: "open" and i aliased    "gnome-open to open"  in my .bashrc12:40
dry[1]hi. has anyone work with mother board sensors in Ubuntu here?12:40
blazemorethemanwithnoface: try xdg-open just to see if it works12:41
blazemore!anyone | dry[1]12:41
ubottudry[1]: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.12:41
blazemoreSupaYoshi: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/115066465/python-urllib3_1.3-2ubuntu2_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i python-urllib3_1.3-2ubuntu2_all.deb12:41
lid6j86xchat is a little confusing tbh12:41
blazemorelid6j86: There are all sorts of other clients you can try12:41
ObrienDavelid6j86==> you will get used to it.12:42
blazemorelid6j86: there's http://webchat.freenode.net12:42
SupaYoshiblazemore: ependency problems - leaving unconfigured, Errors were encountered while processing: python-urllib312:42
blazemoreSupaYoshi: My apologies. Could you please paste the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com and then tell me the URL?12:42
themanwithnofaceblazemore:  sends me to a gui that says  "open , save , display cancel"   when i hit  o    or enter for open it  blinks and does nothing12:42
blazemoreSupaYoshi: It might be you have to upgrade to a later version of Ubuntu which has urllib312:43
gregu-question: how should i inform apt-get to user proxy if i need to authenticate using: user: domain\user1:P@ssw  ?12:43
themanwithnofaceblazemore: also i;m using bash in an ssh login12:43
yebyendoes anyone know why, after restoring my notebook to a factory image (dd if=foo of=/dev/sda), its UEFI menu would still show entries that no longer exist (and didn't come with factory setup?)12:43
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6066338/12:43
blazemorethemanwithnoface: Are you using ssh X forwarding? You need to use the ssh -x command12:43
SupaYoshiIm on 12.04...12:43
SupaYoshiisnt that long term supported? lol12:43
yebyendoesn't that stuff live on the disk?12:43
blazemoreSupaYoshi: sudo apt-get -f install12:43
blazemoreSupaYoshi: Yes, but urllib3 hadn't been invented yet when that came out12:44
ObrienDaveyebyen==> because UEFI is BIOS, not an OS12:44
SupaYoshihey12:44
SupaYoshithat did the trick i think! sudo apt-get -f install12:44
blazemoreyebyen: That stuff lives in a special storage chip on the motherboard12:44
yebyenit's not on the UEFI partition?12:44
blazemoreSupaYoshi: Yeah that will grab dependencies from apt-get, since dpkg doesn't resolve dependencies automatically12:44
dry[1]How to quickly access (or make visible) correct values from my external thermal sensor?12:44
ObrienDaveyebyen==> no, it's on a chip12:45
yebyenso, how do I clear the entries that don't exist on disk anymore12:45
SupaYoshiI see blazemore! thanks for the help ;) The program is executing now, but its saying  /etc/fuse.conf: Permission denied..12:45
blazemoredry[1]: Have you run sudo sensors-detect and followed the instructions12:45
SupaYoshiIm running it from a local account and not root.. which would be stupid id say12:45
blazemoreSupaYoshi: That's a different issue to do with the program in question; what program is it? What does it do?12:45
SupaYoshiwhat would be your advice on this?12:45
blazemore!sudo | SupaYoshi12:45
ubottuSupaYoshi: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo12:45
SupaYoshiIts called copy-fuse, and it works with the cloud storage copy.com12:45
themanwithnofaceblazemore: "ssh -x open the_c_book.pdf12:46
themanwithnofacessh: Could not resolve hostname open: Name or service not known"  ?12:46
blazemoreno themanwithnoface12:46
SupaYoshiI would like to run it at fstab, so it is automounted.12:46
blazemorethemanwithnoface: When you connect with ssh, instead of just typing "ssh your_server" you type "ssh -x your_server"12:46
SupaYoshiOr p-erhaps with a cronjob would be better because its not a real harddrive12:46
blazemoreSupaYoshi: You can use fstab for fuse too12:46
yebyenObrienDave: any idea?  ubuntu could put an entry in there, so I assume it's possible to take one out12:46
yebyenObrienDave: i don't have secure boot enabled...12:46
ObrienDaveyebyen==> TBH i'm not familiar with UEFI. sorry12:47
SupaYoshiblazemore, thanks for letting me know the program is having issues atm though. im running it as sudo.. however it tells me: fuse: bad mount point `/mnt/copybackup': Permission denied12:47
yebyenObrienDave: it was an option in the uefi menu!  i just missed it12:48
yebyenObrienDave: i wonder how they are added by a new system, but it's not important I guess12:48
ObrienDaveok, good to know12:48
blazemoreSupaYoshi: the fuse program is giving you that error. If it's trying to write to or create /mnt/copybackup, the user you're running it as needs to have permissions to write to that12:48
blazemoreSupaYoshi: Are you following a guide?12:48
SupaYoshiblazmore, no i am not really. well sort of12:49
SupaYoshihttps://github.com/copy-app/copy-fuse/blob/master/README.md12:49
blazemoreyebyen: I would imagine UEFI scans the disk for partitions itsself on boot, rather than the OS modifying any entry like you're imagining12:49
SupaYoshiblazemore: complete error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066352/ complete error12:49
yebyenblazemore: and it just keeps the entries after their presence has been wiped from the partition table and efi partition?12:49
blazemoreSupaYoshi: Does "/mnt/copybackup" exist? try "sudo mkdir /mnt/copybackup"12:50
blazemoreyebyen: Apparently so12:50
yebyenblazemore: I know it's scanning bootable removable devices for EFI stuff, but I assumed because of all the rigamorole with the efi partition and different requirements for booting that there was a step for non-BIOS booting that involved adding an entry to that menu some way12:51
lid6j86one quick question12:52
SupaYoshiblazemore, yes that exists i created that before I mounted it :312:52
lid6j86how exactly do i whisper to someone specifically12:52
blazemoreyebyen: I don't know, it was a guess based on what I do know12:52
lid6j86nevermind12:52
SupaYoshibut i chowned it to my local account.12:52
lid6j86i found the help file finally12:52
lid6j86awesome, works12:53
yebyenblazemore: well it seems now that i'm booted into an OS that can read it, the re-image did really clean up my EFI partition too, so thanks!12:54
SupaYoshiblazemore, this is very odd. the program seems to work, however I get these weird errors.12:54
p1l0tPermissions question, If a folder is 770 and I am a member of the group can I create a new folder inside of it? Do all the parent directories also have to be 770 or just the subdirectory?12:54
SupaYoshias started before ;)12:54
SupaYoshifusermount: failed to unmount /mnt/copybackup: Device or resource busy12:55
SupaYoshiI tried to unmount it.. mhm.12:55
SupaYoshiim just going to reboot the system and try again ;) maybe it helps :3 device was deff. not busy. its a cloud storage drive.12:56
noiroIs there any way to completely reload an OS without reinstalling the default wireless driver on 12.04 which breaks the system?12:58
blazemorenoiro: You could do a fresh install, then before you even boot, blacklist the relevant kernel module12:58
Extreminadorp1l0t yup you can12:59
noiroBlaze, it's the same common broadcom bug. I still don't get why they never patched that bug for an LTS12:59
Extreminadorp1l0t 7 means read/write/execute12:59
SupaYoshiblazemore: its not working still, im getting a different error. I think its something to do with permissions or something with the program.13:00
p1l0tExtreminador: thanks13:01
blazemoreSupaYoshi: Try making a folder in your home dirtory (mkdir ~/test) and then mounting it there (not as root)13:01
SupaYoshioh nvm.. i think it works now! xD13:01
SupaYoshii made a typo logging in.. lets see13:01
SupaYoshiblazemore, it works now, however i can only access it as root. bceause i run it as sudo its mounted as root13:02
SupaYoshihow would i implent this in fstab?13:02
SupaYoshiI can just chown -R the folder to my local account I suppose.13:03
SupaYoshiBut in fstab, how can i use this? just the same command in fstab?13:03
blazemoreAn excellent question! You use the "user" directive instead of "defaults"13:03
blazemore"directive" is a fancy word that doesn't even make sense in that context so I don't know why I said it13:04
SupaYoshiAnd my other question isi see thank you ;) hah!13:04
SupaYoshiim going to try this ;)13:04
SupaYoshioh no! i got one more question... the command im using is ./copyfuse13:05
SupaYoshii would like to make copyfuse a system wide known command... instead of having to go to the directory and excecuting it then... i forgot how to do this.13:05
blazemoresudo ln -s /path/to/copyfuse /usr/bin/copyfuse13:05
SupaYoshiI believe it was a symlink to somewhere.13:05
SupaYoshithank you.. :)13:05
blazemoreOh yeahhh I guessed your question correctly :)13:05
SupaYoshiis /usr/lib/copyfuse.. a good place for the program?13:05
SupaYoshithanks! :)13:05
SupaYoshihaha amazing ;)13:06
blazemoreSupaYoshi: Anywhere in your path13:06
blazemore!path13:06
ubottupath is The $PATH variable tells the shell where to look for the commands you tell it to run. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#File-location_related_variables13:06
SupaYoshiokay :P lawl13:06
cloneGhello I would like to find the reason why I have two desktop folders in my home folder...one of those effectively opens a folder where I can see what I have in the desktop, that is to say shortcuts and some files and folders...but when I open the other one...I see nothing but the antivirus I am using (COMODO) any ideas?13:06
SupaYoshisudo ln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse /usr/bin/copyfuse13:06
SupaYoshihowever.. if i type ./copyfuse it tells me no such file or directory?13:07
SupaYoshiHow can i check if its working? :D13:07
geirhaSupaYoshi: lose the ./13:07
SupaYoshicopyfuse: command not found13:07
SupaYoshi>< eep13:07
SupaYoshiah wait... its copyfuse.py13:08
SupaYoshino wait...13:08
SupaYoshithat doesnt work either :(13:08
ActionPa1snipSupaYoshi: the ./ tells the interpretter to lok in the pwd13:08
geirhaugh, commands shouldn't have extensions13:08
bluefrogcloneg so one is written Desktop and the other desktop?13:08
ActionPa1snipSupaYoshi: try typing 'copy'  then press TAB a few times13:08
SupaYoshicopyfuse.py  fuse.py      fuse.pyc     .git/        .gitignore   LICENSE      README.md13:09
geirhaSupaYoshi: ''file /usr/lib/copyfuse /usr/bin/copyfuse''13:09
SupaYoshiah wait, im in thtat direcotry13:09
ActionPa1snipSupaYoshi: are you in the same folder as the copyfuse command right now?13:09
SupaYoshiyeah i am. lol13:09
ActionPa1snipSupaYoshi: run:   cd    then retry13:09
SupaYoshisudo ln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse /usr/bin/copyfuse this is the command i done before.13:09
SupaYoshiThe copyfuse is located in /usr/lib/copyfuse13:10
SupaYoshiActionPa1snip, ive done that, nothing then13:10
ActionPa1snipSupaYoshi: then once you are in $HOME   you can run 'copyfuse' and it'll work13:10
SupaYoshiActionPa1snip, nope im in /home/username13:11
SupaYoshiand i still cant do copyfuse. =/13:11
SupaYoshisorry im probally doing something wrong . xD13:11
PiciSupaYoshi: if the command is copyfuse.py, you need to make sure that your symlink actually points to that.13:11
ActionPa1snipSupaYoshi: type 'copy' and hit TAB again13:11
SupaYoshiah.13:11
PiciSupaYoshi: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse.py /usr/bin/copyfuse13:11
SupaYoshiAction, nothing comes up.13:11
ActionPa1snipPici: just about to type that :)13:11
SupaYoshiPici, thanks13:11
SupaYoshiHow do i delete a old symlink? just rm?13:11
ActionPa1snipPici: will the old link need removing first?13:11
SupaYoshisorry kinda asking somethin stupid.13:12
ActionPa1snipSupaYoshi: yes, its just a file13:12
ActionPa1snipSupaYoshi: you'll need sudo13:12
Picior use -f13:12
SupaYoshiso i remove it in /usr/bin? rm -r?13:12
SupaYoshirm -r copyfuse.13:12
geirhawithout -r13:12
ActionPa1snipSupaYoshi: I'd go with -f :)13:12
Picijust do ln -fs /usr/lib/copyfuse.py /usr/bin/copyfuse13:13
ActionPa1snipSupaYoshi: use TAB to complete the file names, reduces user error13:13
SupaYoshi=/ jeez13:14
SupaYoshidone that xD still no copyfuse13:14
SupaYoshiin /home/user/ TAB nothing/13:15
SupaYoshicopyfuse.. nothing lol13:15
SupaYoshisudo ln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse.py /usr/bin/copyfuse xD13:15
PiciSupaYoshi: Why would copyfuse be in your user's home?13:15
geirhaSupaYoshi: Does ''file /usr/lib/copyfuse.py /usr/bin/copyfuse''  output info about each file?13:15
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6066430/13:16
SupaYoshioops. =/13:16
SupaYoshiwhat now? ;o13:16
cloneGbluefrog: no. one is written in spanish, the language I set in the installation, and the empty one in english13:17
blazemoreSupaYoshi: what does "file /usr/lib/copyfuse.py" say?13:17
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geirhaObviously, /usr/lib/copyfuse.py doesn't exist either. It would be an odd place to have a .py file anyway13:17
SupaYoshi./usr/lib/copyfuse.py: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/lib/copyfuse.py' (No such file or directory)13:17
blazemoreOK SupaYoshi. Where is copyfuse when you were running it before?13:17
bluefrogcloneg get rid of the empty one if all ur folders are in spanish13:17
SupaYoshi./usr/lib/copyfuse is the directory i put it13:18
bluefrogcloneg can be comodo who created it13:18
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6066444/13:18
geirhaSupaYoshi: ls -ld /usr/lib/*fuse*13:18
blazemoreSupaYoshi: rm /usr/bin/copyfuse13:18
Picino13:18
Picier13:18
geirhaSupaYoshi: Ah, so it's /usr/lib/copyfuse/copyfuse.py13:18
blazemoreSupaYoshi: ln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse/copyfuse.py /usr/bin/copyfuse13:18
SupaYoshithanks.... :D13:19
SupaYoshithat was it sorry guys.. ><13:19
blazemorenp glad you got it working13:19
SupaYoshiso allt hat went wrong wa that i forgot it was a directory.! ><13:19
SupaYoshiand then the file.13:19
SupaYoshisilly. ><13:19
geirhaSupaYoshi: It's still an unconventional place to put python files though13:19
SupaYoshiah okay, ive read it before with another program i installed.13:20
lid6j86what is geoip?13:20
SupaYoshiAnd they told me to go there.13:20
lid6j86says ubuntu geoip provider crashed13:20
SupaYoshiso i thought id put it there agian. /usr/lib/13:20
blazemorelid6j86: Geoip is a service that maps IP addresses to physical location13:20
blazemore!geoip13:20
blazemore!info geoip raring13:20
ubottuPackage geoip does not exist in raring13:20
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lid6j86i have raring, and it says it crashed13:20
lid6j86so i would imagine it has it13:20
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SupaYoshiem.. so now in fstab all i have to do is /copyfuse user@email.com password /path/to/mount/point13:21
SupaYoshioh and that one thin g! from earlier13:21
blazemorelid6j86: Is there a specific error message?13:21
MrQuistgo to google and search for: "site:github.com id_rsa" fun ensured13:21
geirhaSupaYoshi: That doesn't look valid for fstab13:21
lid6j86no, it just came up with a warning window saying that it had crashed13:21
Pici"it"13:22
SupaYoshiehee ok.13:22
blazemorelid6j86: What were you doing at the time?13:22
the-newsmanblazemore, i did as u told me. plz look at this url http://fpaste.org/37301/38735313/13:22
the-newsmanwhat wrong i did now ?13:22
blazemorethe-newsman: You broke it earlier when you tried to install the deb you made from Alien13:23
blazemorethe-newsman: sudo apt-get remove deluge; sudo apt-get install deluge13:23
the-newsmanok hold plz13:23
SupaYoshi<blazemore> An excellent question! You use the "user" directive instead of "defaults"13:23
SupaYoshiwould this be correct: /copyfuse user@email.com password /path/to/mount/point user 0 013:23
jluchello all13:24
blazemoreidk about /copyfuse there...13:24
SupaYoshimhm ok, cus you said I could do it in fstab13:24
SupaYoshimount it in fstab hehe13:24
blazemoreIn general, one "registers" a new mount filesystem type by creating an executable mount.fstype13:24
SupaYoshiwould using a cronjob to do this work better?13:25
blazemoreln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse.py /usr/sbin/mount.copy13:25
SupaYoshi@reboot /copyfuse user@email.com password /path/to/mount/point13:25
blazemoreHold on no, I know how to do it13:25
SupaYoshiAh oK!13:25
blazemorelet me tell you the fstab line13:25
SupaYoshi:3 ok ok ok ur amazing xD haha13:25
geirhaSupaYoshi: That looks like a crontab line13:26
SupaYoshigeekbri, yea i was planning on using crontab if i were alone.13:26
Pici"fuse" is userspace, which means it really doesn't belong in fstab.13:26
geekbriDrive by nick highlighting!13:26
SupaYoshibut blazemore is an awesome teachre13:26
p1l0tI have a user www-data that is in the group of another user yet is cannot create a folder in one owned by that user with 770 permissions. It was suggested this could be an issue with apparmor but I am unfamiliar with how this program works. I did do apparmor_status and it is indeed running.13:26
SupaYoshigeirha xD hahaa oops13:27
blazemorecopyfuse#username@email.com /path/to/mountpoint fuse user 0 013:27
blazemoreSupaYoshi: ^13:27
p1l0tThere is a question in there somewhere.13:27
p1l0t:)13:27
SupaYoshiblazemore, going to try right away!13:27
SupaYoshiis there any way of testing fstab without rebooting btw?13:27
freiteis samba4 completely borked in 13.04 or am i missing something, installed the samba4 package and when i run samba -i for debuging it cant find /usr/sbin/smbd which isnt included in the samba4 package13:28
blazemoreSupaYoshi: Unmount it manually first and then just run "mount /path/to/mountpoint" and see if it works13:28
blazemoredo "mount /path/to/mountpoint" after editing /etc/fstab of course13:28
jlucOn ubuntu 12.04 and on 2 different computers Thunderbird hijacks the focus and i connot use nor the SUPER (windows) key nor ALT TAB. The main TB window is stuck full screen (not the write-message windows)13:28
jlucSo i cannot leave TB and  switch to another app (it takes numerous tries before i can reach another app in same workspace)13:28
jlucCPU usage keeps low or none for TB.13:28
jlucThe workspace switch hotkey is ok though : i can easyly switch to another workspace (desktop) (so a workaround could be to launch TB in another workspace...)13:28
FloodBot1jluc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:28
jlucIs there a way to make TB application-switch friendly with usual ALT TAB or SUPER keys ?13:28
SupaYoshihey blazemore copyfuse#username@email.com /path/to/mountpoint fuse user 0 0 doesnt contain a password! ;P13:28
jlucBTW I have a big lots of mail (TB profile size = 17Go).13:28
blazemoreOh that's a good point SupaYoshi try copyfuse#username@email.com#password13:29
blazemoreSupaYoshi: fyi I'm getting my information from here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1554178/how-to-register-fuse-filesystem-type-with-mount8-and-fstab13:29
blazemoreSupaYoshi: Don't try too hard when you could use a crontab13:29
blazemoreI just find fstab easier to manage since all the mounts and things are in one place13:29
SupaYoshiwouldnt cronjob be safer? especially since when the server has no internet connection it wouldnt boot?13:29
SupaYoshicus fstab wouldnt load the mount?13:29
SupaYoshiunless i skip it?13:30
blazemoreSupaYoshi: That's a great point, and could affect your decision13:30
blazemoreSupaYoshi: Either will work, crontab is probably simpler13:30
SupaYoshiblazemore, but cronjob wont hang the system during boot as the system cant mount?13:30
SupaYoshior will fstab ignore it? auto?13:30
SupaYoshiwell you know just gonna test brb ;)13:31
blazemoreCron will try to run the script, but it won't hang the system if it fails13:31
lid6j86apparently steam destroyed me13:31
lid6j86it locked my system up and i had to reboot13:31
lid6j86whats the best way to ensure that all the files it was in the process of installing are removed?13:32
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SupaYoshihehe the fstab didnt work :)13:32
blazemoreNever mind, the cron will13:32
SupaYoshiim just gonna use gron ;)13:33
SupaYoshi*cron yeah hgaha!13:33
blazemoreDon't forget to remove the line from fstab to avoid complications13:33
SupaYoshiwould i need to run the crontab as root or as user?13:33
blazemorejluc: Is Thunderbird in fullscreen? Hit F1113:33
SupaYoshiblazemore, ;) already removed. ;3 hah13:34
blazemore!cron13:34
ubottucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto13:34
SupaYoshiyes i know.13:34
SupaYoshiI mean crontab -e as root, or as user.13:34
blazemoreRoot if you needed to use root to mount it13:34
SupaYoshisudo su, then crontab -e or just as normal user: )13:34
SupaYoshihah ok :P13:34
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blazemoreI'd just do sudo crontab -e13:34
SupaYoshitesting now ;)13:35
whoeverhi all is there anyone here user  razer abbysus13:36
jlucblazemore : TB is fullscreen but cannot leave it. F11 only opens/closes the right sidetab. Clicking ALT+RightClick on the titlebar proposes to resize window but has no effect13:36
whoeverif so is there an app port to controll the hotkeys and led13:36
whoeveri know you can map the keys13:36
blazemorejluc: Alt+F8 is the keyboard shortcut for resize.13:37
blazemoreI found this whoever http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html13:37
blazemorejluc: Also take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/196058/comments/1313:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 196058 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Thunderbird starts in a full-screen mode and cannot be restored" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:39
DTanyone know anything about steam?13:40
blazemore!anyone13:40
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.13:40
SupaYoshiokay it works! great, ;) Now one more problem perhaps.. not sure yet. My local users cant access it, since its mounted by root.13:40
SupaYoshiHowever since its mounted each reboot.. it automaticlly becomes root owned, correct? Therefor how can I chown it to be user accessable?13:40
MonkeyDustDT  try #ubuntu-steam13:40
blazemoreSupaYoshi: Can your local users do things in the target directory *before* its mounted? ie do they have the right permissions on it?13:40
DT#ubuntu-steam13:41
DT?13:41
DTthanks13:41
SupaYoshiblazemore i believe so yes.13:41
MonkeyDustDT  type /join #ubuntu-steam13:41
DJonesDT: I think there is a #ubuntu-steam channel that could be a good place to ask about steam issues13:41
blazemoreSupaYoshi: What is your crontab line? ie what exactly is getting run on every reboot?13:42
SupaYoshicopyfuse is being run as root.13:42
vel0hi13:42
blazemorejust the command "copyfuse" by itsself?13:42
SupaYoshi@reboot copyfuse user@sometjhing.com13:42
SupaYoshiyes13:43
blazemoreand "copyfuse" is a script that mounts it?13:43
whoeverss_haze: compairing and checking before putting out the cash man13:43
SupaYoshiyep13:43
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blazemoreSupaYoshi: Can you find the line in copyfuse that does the actual mount?13:43
p1l0tIs www-data supposed to have a profile in apparmor? Because I don't see one. Not sure if that's my problem I have zero experince with apparmor13:43
SupaYoshiand that script acesses fuse. which is not able to be accesses by a normal user13:43
SupaYoshiah ok sure. i think so13:43
p1l0texperience13:43
SupaYoshimoment.13:43
blazemoreSupaYoshi: If you can't just copy paste the entire file onto http://paste.ubuntu.com (take out your password) and I'll find it13:44
SupaYoshithanks ur very helping and nice13:44
SupaYoshi:P im lookin for you too though.13:44
blazemoreehh I'm sitting at work getting paid13:44
blazemoreMight as well do tech support at the same time13:44
ss_hazewhoever: wut?13:44
p1l0tblazemore: we appreciate it :)13:44
pchi13:45
ss_hazehi everyone13:45
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6066517/13:45
blazemoreSupaYoshi: That won't work, it's expecting a username and password and stuff.13:45
blazemoreif you just run the command "copyfuse" on its own what happens?13:46
SupaYoshiyeah, and that is given in the cronjob13:46
blazemoreOh OK13:46
SupaYoshii didnt put that in at the crontab, :) the crontab works just fine13:46
SupaYoshiits just permission problem hehe :313:46
blazemoreI need to know the crontab line13:46
SupaYoshioky one sec ;)13:46
blazemorewithout personal details obviously13:46
SupaYoshi@reboot copyfuse supayoshisomething@gmail.com password /mnt/copybackup13:46
Aarunican I password protect a whole application? for e.g., thunderbird should ask for a password, each time someone tries to open it..13:47
blazemore@reboot copyfuse -o allow_other supayoshisomething@gmail.com password /mnt/copybackup13:47
SupaYoshiwhat does allow_other mean :D13:48
blazemoreAccording to "man fuse" it means "allow access to other users"13:48
blazemoreie users other than the one who mounted it, will be able to access13:48
SupaYoshiah great :D13:49
blazemoreIf you *just* want your user to be able to access it, take that line out of root's crontab, and run "crontab -e" as your own user. In this case you wouldn't want to use allow_other13:49
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whoeverss_haze: so what i am tring to see is how a higher dpi is better for something like gimp than a lower dpi mouse13:49
SupaYoshiblazemore, I see ;) hah13:49
the-newsmanblazemore,  how can i find an installed program ?13:50
srontHey guys. Im running Ubuntu 13.4 and I'm having problems connecting to the internet over 802.1x13:50
blazemorethe-newsman: Could you rephrase that? If you want to know the location of a binary in your path, use "which programname"13:51
SupaYoshiawesome works!13:51
the-newsmanblazemore,  i meant, inside the menus13:51
SupaYoshihah now i have access, copy is great for backups ;)13:51
SupaYoshiI got 35 GB free dropbox like storage :313:52
srontThe thing is. As far as I can judge it, the settings are correct, my Login and password are correct and the drivers seem to be ok too13:53
ss_hazewhoever: keep on going13:53
srontI'm kind of at a loss about where to continue troubleshooting13:54
whoeverss_haze: huh13:54
whoeverwtf13:54
ss_hazewhoever: whoever you are, keep doing whats best for you13:54
srontSomeone got the faintest idea?13:56
SupaYoshiI love the Ubuntu Samba transfer speed on my gbit network :3 its like faster then the HDD itself on Windows lmao13:57
Aarunirepost : can I password protect a whole application? for e.g., thunderbird should ask for a password, each time someone tries to open it..13:58
meghaHello, I am trying to fix one trivial bug taken from launchpad, I downloaded the source code, there are many files in that source code, but not able to figure out the file in which I should work, I used grep command,but I am not getting the particular file, Can you please help me in this?13:58
syaelendrahi all14:00
helmut_hi14:01
meghaCan anyone please help me14:03
blazemoreWhat are you actually trying to do megha ?14:03
LarsNis there any way to stop monitoring my mouse battery status?14:04
blazemoreAaruni: I guess you could look at parental control software, although I don't know any of them to recommend14:04
Aaruniblazemore: can't I do something like each time thunderbird is launched , it is launched with a gksudo, so it needs a password, even though it will do nothing with the root previliges ?14:05
blazemoreAaruni: You could make a script that does "gksu true" and then "thunderbird", and replace the menu entry14:05
blazemoreAaruni: That wouldn't stop people who know the location of the thunderbird binary from running it directly though14:06
LarsNAaruni: I'm late, and missed the original problem, but....14:06
Aarunithen that's no use.14:06
LarsNI assume the goal is to keep people other than you from reading your e-mail?14:06
DJonesLarsN: Are you using 13.10? I've only seen the mouse battery mentioned in the development version14:06
AaruniLarsN: yep14:07
meghablazemore:I am trying to find out file containing an option "print-installation-architecture", from the source code14:07
LarsNDJones: yes...  I thought I had the same thing in 13.0414:07
LarsNAaruni: in that case, why not just setup additional users for $Everyone14:07
blazemoremegha: find -type f | xargs grep "print-installation-architecture"14:07
LarsNand password protect yours...14:07
AaruniLarsN: what's $Everyone ?14:08
LarsNMom, Dad, Sister, Brother, Nephew, Niece, Roomate14:08
DJonesLarsN: Probably worth asking in #ubuntu+1 I didn't think that was available in 13.04, I'm sure I've seen it mentioned as a new feature for 13.1014:08
meghablazemore: Thank you14:08
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LarsNDJones: will do, thank you!!!14:08
blazemoremegha: No problem, I use that pattern multiple times a day14:08
jlucas for TB blocking fullscreen ALT F8 does nothing blazemore but it"s same bug à 196058 and probably more precisely https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624125 too so i'll try renaming  localstore.rdf14:09
ubottuMozilla bug 624125 in XUL "Window restored on smaller screen switches to fullscreen mode" [Normal,Unconfirmed]14:09
AaruniLarsN: I already have my own password protected account, but was wondering if I could do that to add another layer of protection, in case I leave my account switched on, and someone opens thunderbird14:09
blazemorejluc: The specific comment I linked you to tells you how you can edit that file to remove the part causing problems, which would mean you don't have to get rid of or move it entirely14:09
jluci'll try ok14:09
meghablazemore: Thanks for using it one more time14:09
MonkeyDustwhat's TB blocking?14:10
LarsNAaruni: 1. don't leave your computer without hitting <ctrl>+<alt>+l     and   2. setup a blank screen screensaver to kick in after 5 minutes, and require a password to log back in.14:10
LarsNAaruni: but #1 on that list is the most important, and a killer habit to get into.14:10
mydevilrootHello again14:10
blazemoreJust get an office job for a week, you'll soon get into the ctrl-alt-l habit14:10
mydevilrootI have a question: is any way to BLOCK autoupdate the kernel of ubuntu ?14:11
AaruniLarsN: this is not an emergency. I already take those precautions. (since its a laptop, just shut the lid, and it locks out, and it locks out, if no activity for 10 minutes), but I was wondering if it can be done.14:11
blazemoremydevilroot: Go to System → Administration → Synaptic Package Manager.14:11
blazemoremydevilroot: wait, ignore everything14:11
blazemoreI just copy pasted instructions from some years ago...14:11
Marleneeis there any option in *grep that can color two or more that two search result ?14:12
mydevilrootblazemore: I just format my system again and make a kernel update and that's the reason why my pc is still crashing14:12
blazemoremydevilroot: What ubuntu version are you using?14:12
mydevilrootblazemore: 13.0414:12
mydevilrootx6414:12
geirhaMarlenee: Come again?14:12
jlucbut i'm not sure to understand https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/196058/comments/13 : it sats both "Search the entry xxxxx" and "change the width, height and screenXY entries to the ones you see here" ...14:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 196058 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Thunderbird starts in a full-screen mode and cannot be restored" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:12
blazemoreOK mydevilroot are you on a working kernel right now? The one you want to use forever?14:12
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mydevilrootI discovered, after updating the kernel to any version my system is crashing14:12
srontHeyho. I'm trying to connect to a network over 802.1x but it doesn't work. My Login and password are correct and I am able to connect using the same machine on my windows. Any ideas?14:12
mydevilrootNope, I have to format my pc again14:12
mydevilrootblazemore: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears14:12
mydevilrootblazemore: It happends after updating the kernel to any version14:13
jlucok i got it. the entry is only the first line14:13
mydevilrootblazemore: also the autoupdates settings, when my system is autoupdating th kernel to any version it crashes14:13
Aarunianother thing. the bluetooth on this device refuses to work. its some ralink hardware, not sure which, not sure how to find out which. any help ?14:14
mydevilrootblazemore: and I have to format my laptop again, because there is no way to fix it. I'm stuck with it from few days14:14
blazemoremydevilroot: Can't you boot from the older (working) kernel?14:14
mydevilrootblazemore: dunno why, the another kernel version is braking my system (compiz and unity) and any tutorials to restore/fix it/reinstall is not working14:14
LarsNAaruni: is it internal, or an external bluetooth adapter?14:14
mydevilrootblazemore: I can't14:14
AaruniLarsN: internal.14:14
geirhaMarlenee: Your question seems to be lacking a few words, so I don't understand what you're asking.14:15
blazemoremydevilroot: Reboot your computer and hold shift to enter the Grub menu, then select the version that previously worked14:15
LarsNAaruni: lspci or lsusb  (with -v for more info)14:15
LarsNshould get you some googable info.14:15
mydevilrootblazemore: I'm going to format my laptop again, but my question is: is there any way to block the system from autoupdating the kernel ?14:15
AaruniLarsN: Ralink corp. RT3290 Bluetooth14:15
blazemoreyes mydevilroot use synaptic package manager to "freeze" the version of the kernel you're currently on14:15
hylianwhy is it that if I backup /var/cache/apt/archives, and reinstall I still need to download stuff? (I'm not talking about things like flashplayer/java)14:15
mydevilrootblazemore: Thank You for the answer, I'm formatting my pc right now and I'll write if it works, Thanks for the answer14:16
blazemoremydevilroot: Google for "site:ask.ubuntu.com ubuntu prevent kernel update" and loo14:17
jlucYes blazemore : it enables to get out of the fullscreen blocked state. thanks a lot. i hope it wont get blocked there too often or i will need to write a "reset and launch TB" script :-)14:17
mydevilrootblazemore: Okay, I'll14:17
blazemorejluc: Subscribe to the bug report, and mark it as also affecting you14:17
blazemoremydevilroot: I accidentally half a sentence14:17
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sront(sront) Heyho. I'm trying to connect to a network over 802.1x but it doesn't work. My Login and password are correct and I am able to connect using the same machine on my windows. Any ideas?14:18
geirhahylian: The installer won't see them, but after the installation, apt-get should detect and use them if they're the right version14:18
hyliangeirha: that's what I mean, I reinstall, dump the archives back, and i still need to get a lot of data from the internet... i should have nothing to download if I just fetched all available updates/upgrades (and dist-upgrades) before restarting...14:21
IamTryingI changed desktop image. and system is crashed? why? e.g: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri file:///home/serrano/Pictures/y.jpg14:21
IamTryingNow not booting anymore14:21
IllusioneerI am scratching my head over this one, I have a box with 3 gig and my LAMP stack took up all but 100mb of ram.  So I killed apache/mysql but free shows it has not released any ram.  Why?14:21
hylianhow would I feed another machine my upgrades so it would not have to use the internet? (no connection possible..??)14:22
geirhahylian: Assuming you didn't run apt-get clean somewhere in there, yes, I'd expect that to work.14:22
blazemoreIllusioneer: look at "sudo ps aux" to check if apache/mysql are not running14:22
hyliangeirha: me too, but it doesn't.14:22
zykotick9hylian: if you have 2 machines, check out apt-cacher-ng14:22
hylianzykotick9: ok, but doesn't that just save the archives folder?14:23
PiciIllusioneer: are you sure that your ram isn't being used by cache/buffers? That doesn't really count as 'used' ram.14:23
geirhahylian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_packages_without_an_Internet_connection14:24
zykotick9hylian: also the apt database part, so you can update from one machine to the other (typically, as a proxy, but there is also an offline mode i believe)14:24
IllusioneerPici well I am just going by "free -m" which says I have only 80mb of physical ram unused14:24
IllusioneerThis was after I stopped all services like mysql and apache14:24
PiciIllusioneer: can you pastebin the exact output?14:24
zykotick9!atemyram | Illusioneer14:24
ubottuIllusioneer: If you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html14:24
IamTryinggsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri file:///home/serrano/Pictures/y.jpg - Why it crash system? Not booting anymore.14:25
hylianzykotick9: i think you hit the nail on the head, i know I am not backing up everything apt is getting...14:25
IllusioneerI also ran sync which did nothing14:25
IllusioneerOk so I see where the buffer/cache shows the 3480 is free14:26
IllusioneerBut shouldn't sync have released that?14:26
blazemoreIllusioneer: That ram is available14:26
zykotick9Illusioneer: sync is related the HD/storage, not ram.14:26
blazemoreIllusioneer: If another app needs RAM it will be released14:26
IllusioneerAh ok thanks14:26
IllusioneerThis explains some of the messages that weren't making sense14:26
hylianthanks zykotick9 and geirha, i think i have a solution!14:27
hylianthanks all for the help14:28
sarthorHI, I have several files in one directory, ZDABAD.TTF, ZAG.TTF ..... I want to change all those files name to zdabad.ttf, zag.ttf .... Is it possible to do this with a single command, in short file name are in CAPS, want to change them to Small . with  extention.14:28
collectekhow do I add a service to startup for ubuntu server 12.04?14:28
collectekI seem to remember it had something to do with the rc.d?14:28
geirhasarthor: for file in ./*.TTF; do mv "$file" "${file,,}"; done14:28
Picisarthor: rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' *14:29
agresterJust did an upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 and the dash doesn14:29
geirhasarthor: Note that it will fail if the filesystem is NTFS (or some other case-insensitive file system)14:29
p1l0tSo figured out more of my problem. when I changed the group of the folder to www-data it can create folders. even though id www-data shows that it was in the group of the owner of the file and the permissions are 770 that isn't good enough. Why?14:29
Piciagrester: 13.10 isn't supported in this channel, please use #ubuntu+114:29
agresterdash doesn't look normal and things are a bit off, how can I reset Ubuntu to default settings?14:30
sarthorPici, Thank you, rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' * worked,14:31
Picisarthor: np :)14:31
MonkeyDustagrester  it's because 13.10 is not yet stable, you cannot expect it to work without flaws14:32
sront Heyho. I'm trying to connect to a network over 802.1x but it doesn't work. My Login and password are correct and I am able to connect using the same machine on my windows. Any ideas?14:32
agresterOkay, but in general how do reset Unity to factory settings?14:32
p1l0tsront: mac id list?14:33
jluci've done so blazemore14:33
geirhap1l0t: I can't make heads or tails of your question. You're talking about creating a folder somewhere, then suddenly you're talking about a file with mode 770 ... ?14:33
p1l0tgeirha: the user www-data (php) cannot create folders inside of a folder owned by user:user even though it is in the group user. However if I change it to user:www-data it works fine. id www-data does confirm it is in the group user though14:34
LinuxGoldhi ooboontooers14:34
tenchiiiii14:35
geirhap1l0t: May be you just need to restart php to get the new group membership14:35
geirhap1l0t: Or rather, apache I guess14:35
p1l0tgeirha: I'll try it14:38
collectekany heartbeat experts over here that want to field a few questions?14:38
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TurkishMantürk var mý14:40
TurkishManhi people14:41
tenchi14:41
TurkishManhve are u tenc14:41
roninnif I have a bash script and I run bash script, why doesn't it work, it should change one environment variable14:41
p1l0tgeirha: yes that worked :)14:42
roninn'bash script'14:42
srontNot enough permissions?14:42
roninnwhen pasting all the few lines from the script it works though14:42
tenc@roninn are you sure it runs?14:42
MonkeyDustcollectek  is that for a server? if yes: better ask in #ubuntu-server14:42
roninnhow could I verify14:42
srontLike chmod +x14:42
tencadd an echo14:42
BluesKaj!tr | TurkishMan14:42
ubottuTurkishMan: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.14:42
TurkishManBluesKaj14:43
TurkishManyes from tr14:43
srontHeyho. I'm trying to connect to a network over 802.1x but it doesn't work. My Login and password are correct and I am able to connect using the same machine on my windows. Any ideas?14:44
collectekMonkeyDust yes it is. I will ask in #ubuntu-server then14:44
collectekMonkeyDust thanks14:44
BluesKajTurkishMan:  if you wish to speak in your own languge  then /join #ubuntu-tr14:45
roninnhttp://codepad.org/5OWzs0qY14:45
blazemore!details | sront14:45
ubottusront: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:45
roninnit gets runned14:45
roninnbut doesn't change the variable :|14:45
blazemoreroninn: It only changes it for the rest of the script14:45
roninnoh14:45
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roninnthat explains14:46
srontIts 13.04. It just tries to connect then stops and I'm going crazy14:46
blazemoreroninn: Those 4 lines; put them at the end of the ~/.bashrc file if you want it to be permanent14:46
srontGot the same preferences as in windows and I know that the settings are the same as in windows14:47
roninnblazemore, i have it in /etc/profile.d/script14:49
roninnblazemore, it should be run every login14:49
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voltagexhey, why is .disk needed on the ISO for GRUB to boot?14:50
Marleneegeirha : i mean if i search for two diffrent word using "grep" how can i change the color of the other word ?14:51
abrkni'm struggling with sed. i'd like to get the last pid outputted from pstree output "sudo(5277)---node(5283)---{node}(5284)". im trying ubuntu@ip-10-0-1-251:~$ pstree -pA 5277 | sed -r 's/(\d+).$/\1/' but that simply outputs the original string. what am i doing wrong?14:51
blazemoreabrkn: It seems you could use awk in this case, not sed14:53
blazemoreabrkn: so in the above case, the output you want would be "5284" ?14:53
abrknblazemore: correct14:53
geirhaMarlenee: I don't think grep has the ability to do that.14:54
roninnactually the file should have extension, maybe .sh? otherwise it won't get runned14:54
roninnautomatically14:54
zykotick9abrkn: are you familiar with the "pidof" command?  "pidof pstree" type thing.14:54
abrknzykotick9: thanks for the tip, but after looking at the manpage it doesnt seem to be what need14:55
abrknblazemore: any example of that? ive never used awk and the manual seems pretty tough14:55
geirhaMarlenee: You can adjust the colors grep uses for various things, but I don't think there's any distinction between first and second pattern.14:56
Slartabrkn: I'll see what I can do.. like playing with things like these =)14:56
CappyThi everyone, i'm experiencing little problems with my ubuntu server... does anyone know how to block countries on Ubuntu 13.04 directly from IPT?14:58
somsonwhois somson14:59
Slartabrkn: for one thing.. \d doesn't seem to work.. replacing it with [0-9] gave me better results.. might be a bash thing14:59
blazemoreabrkn: pstree -pA 5277 | tail -n 1 | sed 's/.*(\(.*\))/\1/'14:59
geirhaIn sed, \d will match a d. \d is a perl thing.14:59
gasshohow do i find out how much memory my graphics board haz15:00
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roninndoes anybody know why my script (setting env variable) only works for su15:01
roninnfor other users the variable is default15:01
Picironinn: how are you testing this?15:02
geirharoninn: profile is only read when you log in. If you log in graphically, there won't be any TERM variable, because TERM is set by the terminal emulator15:02
blazemoregassho: Take a look at the output of the command "sudo lshw -class display"15:02
roninnPici,  login to the server with ssh ...15:03
DTi'm on Ubuntu 13.04, just installed Catalyst 13.4 drivers.  I'm running 4 monitors.  Only 2 of the monitors came up, and I can't seem to activate the other 2 displays properly through catalyst15:03
zykotick9gassho: blazemore's suggestion looks easier, but my notes on the subject - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066814/15:03
geirharoninn: TERM should in general never be changed. The terminal emulator should set this to a value it supports. Though unfortunately, gnome-terminal seems incapable of setting it to something other than xterm15:03
abrknblazemore: thanks. i dont understand how to read the parenthesis15:04
blazemoreabrkn: neither do I, I just added and moved them around til it worked15:05
lmatIs it normal that when I have caps lock on, it is as though shift is depressed ? Of course this is the desired behaviour for letters, but for numbers, too ? and equal sign, and dash/underscore ?15:05
blazemoresed bruteforcing ftw15:05
abrknblazemore: haha15:05
abrknlike wtf is (\( supposed to mean15:05
blazemoreStart backreference, then a literal bracket15:05
blazemoreOr vice versa15:05
meatflaglmat: what keyboard are you using?15:05
abrknblazemore: i read it as start capture then a literal (15:06
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blazemoreIt can't be that though, or the output would have () in them. It must be literal bracket first15:06
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abrknblazemore: so the escaping is inversed? im confused. \( means capture start?15:08
geirhaabrkn: in sed, ( and ) matches ( and ). \( and \) defines a grouping15:08
abrknman... ok15:08
geirhaabrkn: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/RegularExpression15:09
Slartabrkn: this also depends on what the shell does with strings, I think15:09
Slartabrkn: when I run your example in a terminal \( means a literal parenthesis..() captures15:09
lequtixhi everyone15:09
geirhathe shell doesn't touch anything enclosed in single quotes, so the \( is passed unchanged to sed15:10
gasshoy thank u ^^15:10
john_johnanyone knows a nice looking theme for kde's all elements? There's too much inconsistency on my desktop right now.15:12
airkingWhen I run cmus, it says there is no output plugin, and I only have wav.so for input plugins.  How do I get it to play .mp4, and get the output plugin working?15:13
airkingHas anyone here had this issue/know what to do?15:13
NikPI want to use Jack to record my podcast to ardour. But if I first-start jack after system-boot, jack can't start the server. I can do that so oft I want, it doesn't changes anything. Then I open and close ardour and then start jack, and the server - runs! Why?15:15
_ingsocDoes anyone know how to get 4965 wireless working?15:16
_ingsocIs that considered legacy?15:16
momin90909Hello everyone, I cant set proxy authentication in Synaptic package manager. When I goto Settings-> Network->authentication username and password field are greyed out. Terminal apt-get works fine15:17
ActionPa1snip_ingsoc: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue15:18
ActionPa1snip_ingsoc: its a simple terminal command15:23
blazemoreMonkeyDust: Edit the file /root/.synaptic/synaptic.conf - you can specify the user and password on the httpProxyUser and httpProxyPass lines15:25
blazemoreSorry MonkeyDust15:25
blazemoreHe quit15:25
ActionPa1snipwhy are people using synaptic when software centre is already installed...15:25
ActionPa1snipstrange15:25
Mondayis it possible to setup a login password and encryption on the liveCD/USB ?15:26
Extreminadorguys what is the "command line" collum in the kuser software... it have values like "bin/bash" or /bin/sh", etc etc15:26
blazemoreMonday: Could you rephrase the question?15:26
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Extreminadorwhat are thouses values for ?15:26
blazemoreExtreminador: Sets the user's default shell15:26
ActionPa1snipMonday: you can remaster the ISO and set that up. You could also install to the USB stick as a normal HDD then you can treat it as a normal (albeit slower) install15:27
Extreminadorblazemore tahnsk will checl what is that sheel thing15:27
blazemore!cli15:27
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro15:27
codephobichi,15:28
Extreminadorhumm you mean sheel/terminal or console are the same thing (more or less)15:28
codephobicback again, with even worse trouble.15:28
MondayActionPa1snip, is there a tutorial on how to remaster the iso, and you are saying that the liveCD/USB boots up faster than installing directly on the CD/USB?15:28
blazemoreExtreminador: Well, the console is a graphical application, the shell is the command interpreter15:28
Extreminadorahh ok got it...15:28
codephobicUbuntu 13.04 crashes everytime I try and burn a disc (8.4GB).15:28
ActionPa1snipMonday: there are tonnes of guides on remastering the ISO but installing to USB will be easier15:28
blazemoreExtreminador: You can run any shell in any console (for example I'm using bash in Terminator right now; I've also used zsh in gnome-shell)15:29
ActionPa1snipcodephobic: which burners have you tried?15:29
Extreminadorsow that value is the value that indicates what commands that user will have access ?15:29
blazemoreExtreminador: People do use the terms interchangably however15:29
codephobicIt gets partway in to the process, using Brasero, and before it actually begins writing the image, my whole OS crashes :(15:29
codephobicBrasero, ActionPa1snip15:29
blazemorecodephobic: Does it do this with every image you try to burn, or is it just one?15:29
codephobicActionPa1snip: Brasero.15:29
blazemorecodephobic: Could you try running "brasero" from the command line, then see if it gives you an error when it crashes?15:30
IzgoiПривет всем!15:30
codephobicblazemore, with every image I've tried to create in the past few hours. I've never had this problem before.15:30
ActionPa1snipcodephobic: any others?15:30
codephobicActionPa1snip, I only use brasero, haven't tried with others really.15:31
ActionPa1snipcodephobic: think you should? See if the issue is isolated to brasero? Try xfburn......15:31
codephobicActionPa1snip, I'll give it a shot.15:31
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bibi23hi, ubuntu shows randomly somea black screen after15:32
codephobicI've got one question though. I might be running low on diskspace on the /home drive, I have around 13GB (which should be more than enough for burning a dvd), could cache/temp file corruption cause a complete system crash?15:32
codephobicthis is very unlike Ubuntu, rarely have I had my whole system crash as a result of an application falling over.15:32
ActionPa1snipcodephobic: how much space is available in /tmp15:33
codephobiceverything's pointing to a loooooong weekend of complete reinstall and reconfiguration :(15:33
bibi23ubuntu shows randomly some black screen everytime, then I can't do anything but reboot, I've followed this tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTmZYzaxR_k) but I don't see any "additional drivers" detected, my graphic card also appears to be undetected under "system options", what should I do to fix this? thx15:33
phunyguycodephobic: you could try with a fresh /home/username folder15:33
phunyguyjust to see if your profile is the issue15:33
codephobicActionPa1snip, tmp has 9.6GB available, according to nautilus.15:34
phunyguyor even just rename all your .conf .cache .gconf folders for now15:34
codephobicphunyguy, would that not cause me problems regarding permissions, configurations and such?15:35
ztanehi, why is git exactly 1.8.1.2 when I need git 1.8.2 :(15:35
ActionPa1snipcodephobic: that'll do it :)15:35
ActionPa1snipztane: try find a PPA15:35
phunyguycodephobic: not if you just rename the folders in your folder15:35
phunyguycodephobic: as far as starting fresh with a new profile, you can login as root, rename the folder, create a new one, and chown username:username that folder - and log back in15:36
ActionPa1snipphunyguy: or make a new ubuntu user and log in....much easier15:36
tekkcan you start an x11 session thats resumable? i.e. inside screen or similar15:36
codephobicphunyguy, hmm I've never done that before ... been too ... well, chicken really, to mess about with permissions once I've configured a system :(15:37
phunyguyActionPa1snip: that too15:37
blazemoretekk: You mean remotely?15:37
tekkno i mean15:37
tekkif i do x11 forwarding15:37
codephobick, I'll try creating a new user after I give xfburn a go.15:37
tekkfrom my server to my mac for example15:37
tekkthen want to close my mac15:37
tekkwalk around15:37
tekkcome back15:37
FloodBot1tekk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:37
tekkcontinue where i left off15:37
blazemoretekk: Sounds like you mean "yes"15:37
codephobicis xfburn good for windows compatible discs?15:38
tekkperhaps :p15:38
blazemoretekk: The terminology you're looking for is "remote desktop", and the technology we tend to use on Linux is15:38
blazemore!vnc15:38
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX15:38
tekki don't wanna run vnc really15:38
ztaneActionPa1snip: done, do not like ppas too much though15:38
tekkif i can help it15:38
oalIs there a good TTS system for Ubuntu that just lets me select text anywhere in the OS, and hit a button for it to be read?15:40
blazemoreBut you just described VNC tekk :P15:40
phunyguy!FreeNX | blazemore: tek, this is what you are looking for15:40
ubottublazemore: tek, this is what you are looking for: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX15:40
blazemoreI've never used FreeNX but I've heard good things about it15:40
phunyguymakes it work more like a terminal server15:40
phunyguy(Windows terminology)15:40
phunyguyor XenDesktop15:41
oalI don't know what you were talking about, but since you mentioned VNC and FreeNX: Check out x2go http://wiki.x2go.org15:41
blazemoreThere you go, tekk , a veritable smörgåsbord of options :)15:42
tekkfreenx... yes i used that once :) cheers15:42
DTi have a problem:  Ubuntu 13.04  i just tried removing and purging my amd graphics drivers to re-install, but apt-get is complaining it can't find fglrx files to delete.  I know they are still on my computer because i can pull up catalyst with sudo amdcccle15:44
blazemoreDT: How did you install fglrx?15:44
airkingtrying to get cmus to work.  It says there is no output plugin, and in it's ip file, I only see wav.so, and I installed the ffmpeg plugin15:45
DTthrough command line15:45
blazemoreDT: Specifically15:45
DTi'll link the site i used15:45
blazemoreDT: Did you install a package from the repo with apt-get? Or follow some weird guide to get it from AMD?15:45
DThttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide15:46
DTthats the guide i used15:46
blazemoreDT: Scroll down to "removing"15:46
DTfor catalyst 13.415:46
DTi tried that blaze15:46
blazemoreDT: There's a command like "fglrx_uninstall.sh" or similar it tells you about15:46
DTthere is not file fglrx_uninstall.sh, i checked15:46
DTand the 2nd line complains it cant find files either15:46
blazemoreDid you reboot?15:46
DTyep, shut down actually and came back up15:47
blazemorePerhaps amdccle is still installed even if the driver isn't15:47
DTi thought they were interlinked15:47
airkingCan anyone here help me with cmus?15:47
blazemoreDT: Can you please pastebin the full output of running the command: "sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh; sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com15:47
DTsure, 1 sec15:48
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blazemore!details | dylan15:48
ubottudylan: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:48
SupaYoshiHey is there also support avail. for XBMCBUNTU here? :)15:49
SupaYoshiIm having sound issues with my ION 330, and I tried serveral ~/.asoundrc settings already15:49
tekktrying x2go btw15:49
SupaYoshinone of them seems to help. even though guides say it should be.15:49
Ari-YangHello, is there some keyboard combo on ubuntu that whenever you click on a window it asks you to close it? and when you type you can't backspace or use the 'Enter' key to send msgs for e.g. on IRC15:49
tekkfreenx is old and doesn't work on modern macs15:49
Ari-Yangto get rid of it I had to log out and back in15:50
OerHeksairking or dylan, nice to change your name within a question, how did you install cmus?15:50
blazemoreSupaYoshi: If it's specifically xbmcbuntu related I think there's another channel for it, however ask your question and we shall see. I'll need more details including the output of the command "cat /etc/issue; uname -a"15:50
illumI know this is the ubuntu channel but would anyone mind helping me with some regex?15:50
SupaYoshiLinux XBMCWOONKAMER 3.5.0-39-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 18:35:04 UTC i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux15:50
DTpaste.ubuntu.com/6066975/15:51
blazemoreillum: Ask it quick before someone who cares says no15:51
SupaYoshiBut i will check i found some more stuff15:51
OerHeksairking or dylan, see this german page, might be a help with the proper way to install and plugin > http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/cmus15:51
DThttp://paste.ubuntu.com/606697515:51
illumI need to replace everything that isn't 0-9 */+-15:51
illumP.S Thank y ou blazemore15:51
phunyguy!ot | illum15:51
ubottuillum: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:51
blazemoreCan you change to another directory and then run the second one (the apt-get command) again?15:51
blazemoreDT ^15:52
DTsure 1 moment15:52
DTany particular directory?15:52
blazemoreDT: Any that doesn't have debs in15:52
blazemoreDT: What's happening is the shell is expanding fglrx_* because there's files that match that in your current directory15:52
blazemoreDT: So it thinks you're saying "apt-get remove fglrx_12.104-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb" which doesn't make sense :)15:52
DTah15:53
DTwell it looks like it may have fixed it15:53
blazemoreyup :)15:53
DTsays most of the stuff was already uninstalled15:53
blazemoreIt's non-obvious I'll admit15:53
DTput in particular it uninstalled amdcccle15:53
blazemoreDon't forget to install the open source driver again, instructions on your guide page15:53
ergotrondoes ubuntu run under windows?15:53
blazemoreergotron: Windows and ubuntu are both operating systems15:54
blazemoreergotron: Ubuntu runs on your computer without Windows15:54
Ari-Yangergotron, Ubuntu is a linux distro...15:54
Ari-Yangergotron, and linux and windows are 2 different OS15:54
phunyguy!wubi | ergotron, this is closest I think.15:54
ubottuergotron, this is closest I think.: Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug15:54
blazemorephunyguy: Why would you even mention that to new users? You'll only have to support them in 2 days time?15:54
DTappreciate it blaze, now i know to look out for that in the future15:54
phunyguyblazemore??15:55
blazemorephunyguy: Sorry, I just see a LOT of wubi issues in here and imo its more trouble than its worth15:55
phunyguybecause that's what we are here for.15:55
dwatkinsergotron: to answer your question, no - Ubuntu runs instead of Windows, if it's installed or you are booted from an Ubuntu USB live image15:55
phunyguyhe asked a question.15:55
moxiehello15:56
path0genhola15:56
moxiehas anyone a "wubi"15:56
ergotroni dont get why it runs on the browser, but i cant find a way to install it locally15:56
blazemoremoxie: Are you having problems with wubi? :o15:56
path0gen^15:56
blazemoreergotron: It's not running on the browser that's just a marketing thing15:57
blazemoreergotron: It's a fake mockup advert15:57
ergotronhttp://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/15:57
ergotronits running fine in my browser15:57
blazemoreergotron: Please read my last two messages to you15:57
blazemoreI have to go home now, good luck all with your outstanding issues15:58
ergotroni got chrome15:58
path0genmy issues are outstanding, ty15:58
blazemoreergotron: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop15:58
ergotronand i said install it as a web app15:58
ergotronand it works15:58
ergotronbut not all the way15:58
ergotron:(15:58
blazemoreI'm so glad I'm leaving right now15:58
moxieubuntu is running my brouwsers fine15:58
phunyguyergotron: that's because it not Ubuntu. It is a website.15:58
phunyguyit's*15:59
ergotronthis is 2013, it should be a web app15:59
blazemoreOK ergotron if you go to ford.com and look at a picture of a car... you don't have that car15:59
moxiei have runned a website with ubuntu also becasue it can do it15:59
blazemoreergotron: bad troll is bad.15:59
phunyguyergotron: Ubuntu is an operating system, not a web app.15:59
ergotronugh15:59
ergotronim confused :(15:59
zolHi! The sound stops working after the login screen (I hear the drum beats at startup however), I think it stopped working after I did a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade.15:59
blazemorejust ignore him15:59
path0genTIL Ubuntu is not a web app15:59
tenc^^15:59
blazemorezol: use the "alsamixer" command to check your volume levels15:59
zolblazemore: I did, none are muted and all are non-zero.16:00
ergotronmoxie, can you install it and have it work in offline mode?16:00
ergotronit doesnt work.16:00
zolhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/291165/sound-problems-after-upgading-to-13-04 -- tried this too.16:00
moxieim not sure the browser ubuntu supports sending keystrokes to amazon16:00
moxieyou download it16:01
moxiefor that16:01
moxierootkit your computer with ubuntuzon16:01
phunyguymoxie: ergotron, please stop.16:01
path0genmoxie you protroll16:01
phunyguydo you have actual support questions?16:01
ergotronim trying to get it installed16:01
ergotroni see a link to a iso16:02
moxieim trying to sync my tomboys16:02
phunyguy!install | ergotron16:02
ubottuergotron: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate16:02
path0genergotron: the .iso is the first step in the installation process16:02
path0genergotron: you mount this .iso file (google this)16:02
ergotronwish it was an .exe16:02
ergotroni hate to burn a dvd16:02
phunyguyergotron: so use wubi.16:02
moxiei just shutdown my computer in the browser one and it worked great16:02
path0genyou do not need to burn  a dvd16:02
path0gengoogle: mounting .iso16:03
phunyguy!google | path0gen16:03
ubottupath0gen: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.16:03
path0genok16:03
path0gensorry16:03
path0gennew here16:03
ergotronim installing ubuntu so i can run this ruby script16:03
AshvaHi, I have a Vaio laptop Z series, I have problem with my wireless card. I googled that and in intel web site I found a fireware which they said can help me.  It is iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode I have no Idea what to do with this firmware. Can some one help me on how to make my wireless card to work with this firmware?16:03
ergotroni need to know if the nsa has spyware on my computer16:03
moxiedoes it have a windows 8 logo ?16:04
phunyguyAshva: place that file in /lib/firmware16:04
dwatkinsergotron: there are ruby interpretters for other operating systems16:04
moxieTPM 2.0 chip?16:04
path0gendwatkins: he trolling16:04
moxieor uefi firmware16:04
moxieif so, it is rootkitted16:04
dwatkinspath0gen: oh right16:04
phunyguyso is moxie16:04
ergotrondwatkins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066949/16:04
Ashvaphunyguy: thanks for reply, I did , but what should I do next?16:04
dwatkinsergotron: that tells me that the script simply isn't in the path16:05
phunyguyAshva: reboot, or reload the iwlwifi module in terminal via sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi; sudo modprobe iwlwifi16:05
wilee-nileeAshva, this is to help on a linux/ubuntu install says intel?16:05
moxieWin8 / TPM 2.0 / UEFI rootkit talk isnt trolling16:05
moxiebut you can feel that way if you want16:05
dwatkinsmoxie: indeed, although a username of "elitehacker" may be16:05
phunyguymoxie: it is offtopic.16:05
moxiephunyguy, im requesting a ban then16:06
moxieplease ban me16:06
phunyguy!ops | moxie would like to be banned16:06
ubottumoxie would like to be banned: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!16:06
moxieif real shit is offtopic16:06
dwatkinswow, that escalated quickluy16:06
path0gen-_-16:06
moxieactually im losing wood16:07
ergotronok the dl is finished16:07
moxiefaster16:07
sliddjur_is there a imagewriter gui app for ubuntu? i heard about an app actually called "imagewriter", but software center doesnt want me to download it16:07
zolSo, anyone else got recommendations on how I can get my sound back?16:07
zolhuh16:07
zolalsamixer worked now16:07
Ashvaphunyguy: I did that but problem still remains16:08
ergotronwhere is the setup.exe ?16:08
ergotroni cant find it16:08
phunyguyAshva: then your issue was not firmware.16:08
phunyguyops, please see ergotron as well.16:08
OerHeksergotron, read the info ubottu gave you.16:08
zolTime to learn Prolog! \o/16:08
Ashvaphunyguy: well at first I was looking for my wireless card driver16:09
moxiei hope comet ison his canonical headquarters16:09
phunyguyAshva: I have the same wireless adapter, works out of the box for me.16:09
phunyguywow, and moxie has a hostmask.16:10
phunyguyAshva: what version of ubuntu?16:10
Ashvaphunyguy: my wireless card is Centrino advanced-N 623516:10
Ashvaphunyguy: 12.0416:11
phunyguyhmm let me see what mine is, it's close.16:11
phunyguyAshva: please pastebin the output of dmesg16:12
phunyguyor anything in it that seems related16:12
ergotronhmm.. maybe gentoo will be easier to install16:12
dwatkinsnow even I think you're trolling, ergotron.16:12
phunyguyhe is.16:12
Ashvaphunyguy: fine, wait a minute16:12
phunyguyoh, I have 620516:13
phunyguyAshva: also what kernel version are you on?16:13
Ari-Yangergotron, if gentoo is easier, go for it, good luck.16:13
Ashvaphunyguy: I think it's 3.516:14
Ari-YangAshva, open a terminal and type uname -r16:14
phunyguyI am thinking that wifi adapter may even be too new for the 3.5 kernel16:14
Ashvaphunyguy: it's 3.5.0-23-generic16:15
phunyguyAshva: you may need an update16:15
AshvaAri-Yang: thanks for help16:15
Ari-Yangyou're welcome16:15
phunyguyhave you updated your system after install?16:15
Ashvaphunyguy: nope16:15
ergotronAshva, just type "windows update" in the command line16:15
mistawrighthey guys looking for some input. I will be setting up a ec2 instance and using it to have customers upload csv files. The files need to be kept in that users directory when uploaded as well. What ftp daemons do you guys recommend for a corporate site16:15
ergotronit should update for you16:15
Ashvaphunyguy: than problem will be solved?!16:16
Ari-Yangergotron, this isn't windows16:16
phunyguy!info linux-generic-lts-quantal precise | Ashva16:16
ubottuAshva: linux-generic-lts-quantal (source: linux-meta-lts-quantal): Generic Linux kernel image and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.5.0.39.45 (precise), package size 1 kB, installed size 28 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)16:16
phunyguyAshva: I can't guarantee that, but you have a better chance of it working16:17
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LudovikWish I could get my XFCE to look this awesome: http://xwinman.org/screenshots/xfce-default.jpg16:17
phunyguyAshva: if that doesn't work, you may try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Proposed_12.04.3_.2B-_13.04_Hardware_Enablement_Stack_Policies_and_Procedures16:17
phunyguy!ot | Ludovik16:17
XfaulzHello guys, I installed and setup cryptswap, and I also use PAE support, I run on a 32-bit distro, I have 4GB ram, when I type "free -m", it gives me:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cachedMem:          3631       3433        197          0         22       2061-/+ buffers/cache:       1348       2282Swap:         5504          0       5504, it says I only have 4GB ram? what the hell, I heard PAE support gives you 7GB ram or s16:17
Xfaulzomething if you have 4GB RAM, and is cryptswap the cause for this?16:17
ubottuLudovik: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:17
XfaulzHello guys, I installed and setup cryptswap, and I also use PAE support, I run on a 32-bit distro, I have 4GB ram, when I type "free -m", it gives me:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cachedMem:          3631       3433        197          0         22       2061-/+ buffers/cache:       1348       2282Swap:         5504          0       5504, it says I only have 4GB ram? what the hell, I heard PAE support gives you 7GB ram or s16:17
Xfaulzomething if you have 4GB RAM, and is cryptswap the cause for this?16:17
FloodBot1Xfaulz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:17
XfaulzHello guys, I installed and setup cryptswap, and I also use PAE support, I run on a 32-bit distro, I have 4GB ram, when I type "free -m", it gives me:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cachedMem:          3631       3433        197          0         22       2061-/+ buffers/cache:       1348       2282Swap:         5504          0       5504, it says I only have 4GB ram? what the hell, I heard PAE support gives you 7GB ram or s16:17
d1gital!paste | Xfaulz16:17
ubottuXfaulz: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:17
dwatkinsergotron: it's wuapp.exe, in fact16:18
Ashvaphunyguy: dmesg output: http://dpaste.com/1366997/16:18
Xfaulzd1gital: Hello guys, I installed and setup cryptswap, and I also use PAE support, I run on a 32-bit distro, I have 4GB ram, when I type "free -m", it gives me:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cachedMem:          3631       3433        197          0         22       2061-/+ buffers/cache:       1348       2282Swap:         5504          0       5504, it says I only have 4GB ram? what the hell, I heard PAE support gives you 7GB16:18
Xfaulz ram or something if you have 4GB RAM, and is cryptswap the cause for this?16:18
phunyguyXfaulz: why did you repaste AGAIN?16:19
smooresI have a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 server. I'm changing /etc/network/interfaces to use a static ip. When I `sudo service networking restart` it would appear that the networking service was never running. Is this normal / what do I need to do to refresh networking with the new changes?16:19
Xfaulzphunyguy: I don't know.16:19
SolarisBoysmoores: most likely network-manager was running your interfaces by default16:21
AshvaAri-Yang: yeah your right it doesn't work16:21
SolarisBoyi believe whatever is present within the interfaces file will also be ignored by NM16:21
phunyguySolarisBoy: correct.16:21
smooresHow would I get of network-manager then?16:22
Ari-YangAshva, what doesn't work? .__.16:22
* Ari-Yang scratches head16:22
Ashvawindows update ;)16:22
Ari-YangI don't recall saying something that won't work to you16:22
Ari-Yangoh16:22
SolarisBoysmoores: maybe you dont need to - is there an issue?16:22
phunyguySolarisBoy: he did say ubuntu server though16:22
phunyguywhich means no networkmanager16:22
smooresSolarisBoy: ubuntu server needs static ip, not dhcp.16:22
SolarisBoyphunyguy: ahh ok16:22
smooresBrand new fresh install of ubuntu server 12.04.16:22
phunyguysmoores: please pastebin contents of /etc/network/interfaces16:23
Rad-Does anyone know what -z does in bash scripting?16:23
SolarisBoycheck if a var is empty16:23
phunyguyRad-: #bash might16:23
SolarisBoyRad-: ^16:23
smooresphunyguy: SolarisBoy  http://pastebin.com/pZPHqKcz16:24
Rad-ty16:24
AshvaAri-Yang: no you didn't I meant your mention to "windows update"16:24
phunyguysmoores: that looks OK.  you said the networking service was not running?16:25
Ari-Yangkk16:25
Xfaulzhey guys, is installing windows 7 on a virtualbox is harmful?16:25
phunyguyXfaulz: no.16:25
smooresphunyguy: i logged into my fresh server install, edited interfaces to look like that and did `sudo service networking restart` which  gave me 'stop: unknown instance. networking stop/waiting'16:25
SolarisBoyXfaulz: nope16:25
MonkeyDustXfaulz  no, delete the virtual machine and it's gone16:26
phunyguysmoores: weird.16:26
phunyguysmoores: try a reboot.16:26
SolarisBoyphunyguy: do you have any dhclient process running?16:26
sipiorXfaulz: to answer your earlier question, be sure that you have memory remapping enabled in the bios.16:26
phunyguySolarisBoy: I do, but I am not smoores16:26
smooresSolarisBoy: i do16:26
SolarisBoyoops16:26
Xfaulzmemory remapping>?16:26
sipiorXfaulz: yep.16:26
SolarisBoysmoores: need to figure out what spawned that process -16:26
XfaulzI have Compaq 435, where is that option in my BIOS, sipior?16:27
sipiorXfaulz: how the hell would i know? reboot and have a look.16:27
smooresSolarisBoy: its a fresh install, so it autoconfigured dhcp, probably.16:27
SolarisBoyright on16:27
phunyguysmoores: did you install a desktop environment with your install?16:27
smooresno.16:27
phunyguyok good.16:27
sipiorXfaulz: not all bios support the option, sadly.16:27
phunyguytry a reboot.16:27
Xfaulzphunyguy: you are not so helpful.16:27
Xfaulzphunyguy: can you try to answer, more simply..etc16:28
Ashvaphunyguy, Ari-Yang; thank you very much for your help and time, I appreciate that.16:28
Xfaulzphunyguy: you often confuse people around here.16:28
Ari-Yang*nod*16:28
Xfaulzanyways, ill have a look sipior16:28
phunyguyXfaulz: unfortunately, that would be the best solution for smoores and initial troubleshooting16:28
Xfaulzill try going to hp's site and look for that option16:28
soverYou guys  got time for a quick question about displays?16:28
SolarisBoyi think he could also kill the dhclient process and bounce networking again16:28
SolarisBoyshould do it16:28
phunyguyask away sover16:29
soverHow can I pull the screen resolution without starting X?16:29
SolarisBoyifdown eth0 even16:29
chaotic_goodso if ps aux shows an rsync START dat as jult 1216:29
smooresSolarisBoy: phunyguy i have rebooted. ifconfig is showing me my static settings. networking service is still not running. dhclient is also not working. machine can't get out16:29
chaotic_goodcan I assume this thing has bene running since july?16:29
chaotic_goododdly the TIME coumn only has 1:0516:30
chaotic_goodcolumn16:30
SolarisBoysmoores: you shouldn't need dhclient with a static - do you have a gateway configured? route -n16:30
soverI feel it's clear than after boot, the OS knows the resolution (and so sizes the text and borders to fit it)16:30
phunyguyalso check out your /etc/resolv.conf16:30
soverbut without X running, I can't use Xrandr16:30
phunyguysover: are you using an nvidia or ati card?16:30
soverraspberry pi.16:31
phunyguysover: and do you have restricted drivers installed16:31
phunyguyhrmm..16:31
phunyguynot sure what that uses16:31
smooresSolarisBoy: phunyguy resolv.conf was empty all of a sudden16:31
smooresi added my nameservers and i'm getting out16:31
phunyguysmoores: that would do it16:31
auronandace!resolvconf | smoores16:31
ubottusmoores: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04 and later, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution16:31
phunyguyauronandace: ubuntu server.16:32
SolarisBoysmoores: thats because its being overwritten by something16:32
soverphunyguy: looks like '- GPU: Broadcom VideoCore IV, OpenGL ES 2.0, 1080p30 h.264/MPEG-4 AVC high-profile decoder'16:32
SolarisBoyusually dhclient and things like that will overwrite it - like auronandace suggested you may want resolvconf16:32
phunyguyif you set static IP, resolvconf does nothing16:32
SolarisBoymaybe not - if you dont switch a bunch of networks16:32
SolarisBoythen - resolvconf is useless16:32
phunyguy:)16:33
SolarisBoyand /etc/resolv.conf is your answer - and the real answer is to stop the dhclient from running...like i said.16:33
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phunyguySolarisBoy: he did.16:33
phunyguyand he is working.16:33
SolarisBoyso whatever is startig it stop it - in the past i have removed dhclient =)16:33
SolarisBoyoh cool16:33
smooresso, add dns-nameservers to /etc/network/interfaces and i'm good?16:33
phunyguysmoores: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180925/how-to-setup-static-ip-in-ubuntu-server-12-0416:34
soverHow about this one then.  Let's say I'm running X, but no window manager, no desktop.  I'm running startx /usr/sbin/chromium, how can I use xrandr over ssh?  I've tried xrandr -d :0.0 as root to no avail.16:34
SolarisBoyyea he purged the dhclient16:34
phunyguysmoores: if you use that option, it will tell resolvconf how to handle it properly, so yes.16:35
phunyguy(Sorry, been on Gentoo too long, going from memory)16:35
smooresadding dns-nameservesr to interfaces worked fine16:35
smooresapt-get removed dhcp-client says can't remove virtual package16:35
phunyguyyeah leave that be16:36
smooresbut yeah, i'm good now. did a reboot and dns-namservers in interfaces fixed it16:36
phunyguysudo apt-get -f install if you have to.16:36
SolarisBoyprobably linked to something huge16:36
SolarisBoysweet16:36
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phunyguylunch time, later all.16:36
LinuxGoldis there a way to get screen to output a result?16:36
SolarisBoygnu screen? LinuxGold ?16:36
LinuxGoldconsole screen16:36
LinuxGolda detached screen -- making a daemon to get output into a file16:37
SolarisBoynot sure what you mean.16:37
SolarisBoyoh16:37
SolarisBoyso gnu screen. sure start the daemon with redirection to the file within your detachced session16:37
soverLinuxGold: maybe I'm not hearing you right, does appending not >> work.log?16:37
SolarisBoyor enable logging on all windows?16:38
LinuxGoldfor example, on a minecraft server, I started with screen -d and want to get seed id from minecraft, i use seed16:38
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SolarisBoywhere is the seed in a log our output from that program? then you can redirect that program to a file in your screen configuration16:39
SolarisBoyyou can also just enable logging in screen if that program prints to stderr/out16:39
LinuxGoldserver.log16:39
SolarisBoyanother thing you can do is just cat the server.log.. in or out of screen. its a file16:39
sovermaybe tail -f server.log | grep seed >> seeds.log?16:40
LinuxGoldwhat is the command to inject a script?16:40
darkangelWhat is Cache to Ubuntu?16:40
darkangelwhat is Cache Memory16:41
SolarisBoydarkangel: all types of cache(s)16:41
SolarisBoyLinuxGold: what do you mean inject a script? you mean to run a command within screen?16:41
sduncanhas anyone upgraded from kernel 3.8.0-29 to 3.8.0-30 and had their display brightness completely stop working?16:41
LinuxGoldyes16:41
sduncanon 13.04, that is16:41
LinuxGoldrun a command within screen from daemon16:41
SolarisBoyLinuxGold: the default shortcut is CTRL+A :16:42
helloworldhei16:42
SolarisBoyi dont know about running commands from daemon but that will provide the prompt to enter a screen command16:42
SolarisBoyif you want to run a new command in a new window you would do something like CTRL + A + : screen <command>16:42
soverphunyguy: thanks for help, btw.  I found the solution for the chromium on xOrg problem16:43
helloworldwhy were these happend?16:43
soversudo -u user xrandr16:43
LinuxGoldSolarisBoy: ctrl + A require user intervention?16:43
helloworldDoes anyone see me?16:43
phunyguy!ask | helloworld16:44
ubottuhelloworld: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:44
SolarisBoyCTRL + A is only the default escape sequence allowing to insert a command, so yes it would always require intervention16:44
phunyguyooops, supposed to be at lunch16:44
sover!ask | sover16:44
ubottusover, please see my private message16:44
darkangelwhy does Ubuntu use all the free Memory for Cache what does it do to it?16:44
SolarisBoydarkangel: linux does that -16:44
darkangelaww16:44
darkangelDoes Cach = Speed?16:45
darkangelcache*16:45
auronandace!linuxatemyram | darkangel16:45
auronandace!memory | darkangel16:45
ubottudarkangel: If you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html16:45
darkangeli know about that just tryin to get more understanding of it16:45
sipiordarkangel: if you've just accessed a file, you're likely to do so again in the near future. buffer cache helps to mitigate disk latency.16:46
darkangelNICE16:46
darkangelso If u had 32 GB RAM it would use Mem Cache for all of it instead of the stuff ur running now16:47
twiztednateHi I'm looking for someone to help a newb out on getting intel drivers installed on Ubuntu16:47
Rad-I can't install guest editions. What directory mount point does the cd go to (I don't have gnome/unity/etc)16:48
sipiordarkangel: not all, but most. otherwise, you're wasting memory and time, waiting for disk i/o that could be cached.16:48
SolarisBoyRad-: i believe it is under /usr/share/virtualbox somewhere16:48
Rad-there doesn't seem to be anything in /dev/cdrom16:48
darkangelawww ok16:48
SolarisBoydarkangel: its pretty much handled internally16:49
darkangelOOHHH so it uses Cache to Save HDD time and not use the HDD so much16:49
SolarisBoyyes16:49
ALLTHECODEHow hard is it to set up two installs of ubuntu on one machine that use the same home directory?16:49
darkangelgot ya16:49
SolarisBoyamongst other things16:49
Rad-SolarisBoy:  i mean i have ubuntu guest?16:50
gordonjcpALLTHECODE: not hard at all16:50
ALLTHECODEgordonjcp: how do you do it?16:50
Rad-one place said there is virtualbox-guest-additions but that package doesn't seem to exist anymore16:50
ALLTHECODEi want to run two different versions on the same machine16:50
gordonjcpALLTHECODE: just mount the same /home partition in both installs16:50
ALLTHECODEalso, I have an encrypted home folder16:50
SolarisBoyRad-: in vbox hit the install guest additions option16:50
Rad-yeah. but i need to find where it mounts to SolarisBoy16:50
SolarisBoyRad-: then in the guest - there will be a new /dev added16:50
gordonjcpALLTHECODE: bear in mind that some applications that save stuff in your home directory might get into a bit of a fight over different file versions16:50
ALLTHECODEoh... yeah I didn't make home its own partition16:51
SolarisBoyRad-: sudo mount -a has worked in the passt - then check and see if you have a /mnt/cdrom or something16:51
Rad-vboxusb SolarisBoy ?16:51
gordonjcpALLTHECODE: no biggie, make a backup, resize your partition and create one16:51
SolarisBoyvirtualbox application UI16:51
ALLTHECODEhow do you tell ubuntu your home dir moved?16:51
gordonjcpALLTHECODE: you don't16:51
gordonjcpALLTHECODE: just mount it16:51
gordonjcpALLTHECODE: ensure it's mounted under /home16:51
SolarisBoythere is an option for each virtual machine to install guest additions, when you hit it, it invokes a hardware addition of a CD drive with the VBOXGUESTADDITION iso16:51
ALLTHECODEbut I would be moving it to a parition right?16:51
Rad-SolarisBoy:  nope16:52
gordonjcpALLTHECODE: yes, but the paths will remain the same16:52
SolarisBoyit doesn't automount in all cases - you need to look at dmesg16:52
ALLTHECODEoh I see... so when it mounts, it mounts to the same place16:52
SolarisBoyand see what got added16:52
SolarisBoybut that is generally how to install the correct guest additions16:52
darkangelIf u Have LOW Video Memory like 128 MB would it use RAM to back it up for more Memory for Games?16:52
gordonjcpALLTHECODE: correct16:53
gordonjcp!mount | ALLTHECODE16:53
ubottuALLTHECODE: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount16:53
ALLTHECODEsorry I'm a bit new to this16:53
* gordonjcp -> off16:53
gordonjcpALLTHECODE: it's pretty straightforward16:53
jdavisIs there any way to keep doing the software update without forcing a reboot? In the past couple releases I reboot more than windows!16:54
Rad-SolarisBoy:  it just says tty1 ended16:54
gordonjcpjdavis: not easily16:54
gordonjcpjdavis: which version of Ubuntu are you running?16:54
Rad-(when i relogged in)16:54
darkangelwow they have 3.8.0.30 Generic for 12.04 LTS16:55
SolarisBoyhttp://helpdeskgeek.com/linux-tips/install-virtualbox-guest-additions-in-ubuntu/16:55
Rad-mounting didn't do anything16:55
darkangellast time i known that was 13.04 generric16:55
jdavisgordonjcp: just updated to 13.0416:55
jdavisBut I had the same problem on 11.1016:55
jdavisI mean 12.1016:55
Rad-SolarisBoy:  nothing in /media16:55
XfaulzI usually run 32bit distros, but can I run 64bit distros? I have 4GB ram, I currently run a distro with PAE support.16:55
darkangel12.10 is a mess last time i heard here16:56
SolarisBoyRad-: did you check to see the device name first before trying to mount it?16:56
SolarisBoyin messages or dmesg?16:56
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Rad-SolarisBoy:  i'm not too familiar with mhttp://helpdeskgeek.com/linux-tips/install-virtualbox-guest-additions-in-ubuntu/16:56
Rad-dmesg tbh*16:56
SolarisBoyi dont know your setup but as stated it may not automount, in which case you need to look in your logs and find the device name16:56
SolarisBoythats all16:56
jdavisgordonjcp, 12.04 seemed fine... it would suggest a reboot but you could keep doing updates. I don't mind a reboot every few months, but it seems kind of ridiculous that I have to close all of my terminals and browser tabs every week or so.16:56
Guest13263How do i turn of automatic superscipt of 1 to 3, ie, i want x^2 instead of x²16:56
SolarisBoyyou can even tail the message log while it's occuring to get the device name16:57
cichyfrom poland16:57
helloworldjoin#django16:57
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Guest13263Anyone has any ideas about the superscript thing?17:01
ikoniasuper script ??17:01
Rad-SolarisBoy: i'll look into it more i guess =\17:01
SolarisBoyRad-: one second let me see if there is an easier way.17:02
Guest13263Ubuntu superscripts the numbers 1 to 3 automaticly, so x^2 becomes x² unless you press space inbetween, makes octave a pain17:02
Guest13263So how do i turn that off? :'-(17:02
ikoniaturn what off ?17:02
Guest13263The automatic superscripting, x²17:03
ikoniawhat automatic superscripting ?? what are you talking about17:03
PiciGuest13263: What applications are you seeing this in? all of them?17:04
Guest13263Yes, all17:04
ikoniawhat is superscripting ???17:04
SolarisBoywhen you script things out really well17:05
SolarisBoydoi17:05
Piciikonia: x^2 becomes x²17:05
Guest13263Like a squared, you know, you type the 2 in the "right top corner" of the variable17:05
ikoniaI have no idea what you are talking about, and I've never heard of super scripting17:05
PiciI've honestly never seen that happen automatically, but I'm a cli junkie.17:06
Rad-Pici:  how did you do that17:06
Piciits a font thing ikonia17:06
PiciRad-: do what?17:06
Rad-< Pici> ikonia: x^2 becomes x²17:06
Guest13263Why would anyone ever want this to happen? :-(17:06
PiciRad-: I copy and pasted what Guest13263 said earlier.17:06
Rad-=[17:06
Rad-lol17:06
ruedigerGuest13263: do you have deadkeys enabled in your keyboard layout?17:07
Rad-I wonder if irssi can do LaTeX17:07
SolarisBoydoes this happen every where you type or just in some application you use?17:07
Rad-SolarisBoy:  are you talking to me or..?17:08
Guest13263<ruediger>: Ill try to check. Yes, everywhere, even terminal17:08
Guest13263I dont really know how to check for deadkeys, any hints? :-)17:09
ruedigerGuest13263: somewhere in the keyboard layout settings.17:09
ruedigerGuest13263: I'm not using unity/gnome.  So I don't really know.17:10
Guest13263Yeah, I did not have "Eliminate dead keys", i enabled it, still the same, would i need a restart or something?17:10
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ruedigerGuest13263: yeah probably17:10
Guest13263It is now fixed, thank you so much :-D17:11
ruedigerGuest13263: great!  Yeah dead keys can be very annoying17:12
karab44Hello I can not find it out where to set/change shortcut path on unity launcher17:16
karab44I have two shortcuts, that does not work. I want to point correct directory for binaries.17:16
wdy43diAnyone have experience with Wordpress and 13.04?17:16
karab44by saying shortcut I mean a link with icon17:17
dbbhi all - I have a really basic question about cron.. if I have a script in /usr/local/bin/ that I want to run as my login, and I put an alias to it in /etc/cron.daily/   is there anything else I have to do ?17:17
SolarisBoykarab44: easiest way i found is to create an icon on your desktop , start the app and then lock  that into unity17:18
karab44I locked it on launcher after I executed my app, then I set lock on launcher. After I quit from app, link didn't work anymore17:18
SolarisBoykarab44: the downfall of that i found is that the icon needs to stay on your desktop17:18
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karab44I can fix it in the script, just tell me where are these scripts17:19
karab44I want to make it right17:20
karab44SolarisBoy: I'll try this method, I think I did like that before17:20
SolarisBoykk17:20
karab44SolarisBoy: does that shortcuts have to be on desktop? Can not stay in app folder?17:22
karab44hehe, well SolarisBoy it doesn't work either17:23
SolarisBoy::shrugs::17:23
SolarisBoysrry17:23
karab44I try to run eclipse and blender17:23
karab44these two doesn't install to the system.17:24
kostkonkarab44: there are desktop file editor apps in the software centre17:24
karab44kostkon: What name should I look for?17:25
ergotronhmm... im having issues installing microsoft office xp, any1 can help?17:25
kostkonkarab44: dont know, search for desktop, unity, launcher, shortcuts etc17:25
DJonesergotron: Probably best asking in ##winehq for running Windows app's on Ubuntu17:26
tmmunq#windows17:26
Mondayergotron, are you using wine?17:26
SolarisBoythsoe are actually int he base install afaik17:26
wdy43diSo anybody available to help me configure WordPress?17:26
kostkonkarab44: you'll eventually find one17:26
SolarisBoygnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new | for example karab4417:26
Mondaywdy43di, are you trying to setup a server on ubuntu?17:27
Piciwdy43di: What sort of help? #wordpress's official channel is here on freenode as well if the questions are specifically for that.17:27
SolarisBoythey are a part of gnome-panel installation17:27
aazz0hello, i need to have users on the same machine (all users, also guest) be able to easily share files between them, how do i do that?17:27
wdy43diYes Monday I am17:28
Pici!who17:28
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)17:28
wdy43diAwesome Pici  Thank you for your guys time.17:28
SolarisBoyaazz0: make a public folder out of each users home directory -17:29
SolarisBoyaazz0: /usermount - and assign it the proper permissions to allow access17:29
aazz0SolarisBoy: sounds complicated (for a beginner like me)17:30
SolarisBoy2 steps17:30
karab44SolarisBoy: It works! and you can easily move this redundant shortcut for example to binary folder (not keep it on Desktop)17:30
dbb.. I saw some reference to an "allow cron" file somewhere, to let my lognio run a cron job.. unsure if that applies or what..17:30
SolarisBoysudo mkdir /usermount and permission the folder. aazz0 should be straight forward17:30
aazz0for each user?17:31
SolarisBoysudo mkdir /usermount and sudo chown 0777 /usermount at it's simplest should allow any user to access it17:31
SolarisBoyno17:31
SolarisBoyone time -17:31
karab44Thank you guys17:31
SolarisBoyeach user would then use /usermount as the "shared" location17:31
aazz0would then all files in that folder be readable and editable by every user automatically?17:32
aazz0also guest?17:32
Pici/70/3617:33
Mondaywdy43di, try these tutorials http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/02/4-easiest-ways-to-install-lamp-server-on-ubuntu/ and http://www.sudo-juice.com/install-lamp-server-ubuntu/17:33
Mondaywdy43di, and you can probably use the software center or package manager to install lamp17:34
Mondayergotron, i don't have microsoft office XP, but i installed microsoft office 2007 with wine easily if you need help with that17:36
aazz0thanks17:36
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moondoggyCan someone give me a suggestion about getting a usb stick to automount?  I have 12.04 on a MacBook Pro.17:39
moondoggyI'm set to automount in dconf, so I think it's an issue with the Mac hardware.17:39
mkanyicyhi guys17:39
mkanyicymy laptop does not play any sound until i put earphones17:40
karab44SolarisBoy: well I'll however stay with the Desktop links :) . After add this app shortcut to Launcher icon makes very awful17:40
mkanyicymy laptop does not play any sound until i put earphones, the sound settings show "Headphones, Built-in Audio" and nothing else17:41
mkanyicyAudio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)17:41
mkanyicyDell Latitude17:41
karab44SolarisBoy: okay I fixed it! I had to add icon just during creation of this shortcut.17:42
moondoggymkanyicy: I haven't totally solved that, but I fix non-functioning speakers / headphones by opening a different sound app.17:43
moondoggyUsually that resets whatever is messed up.17:43
mkanyicymoondoggy: there is no sound on the laptop speakers at all, all the time17:43
moondoggyPlaying audio through Firefox fixed my headphones that Spotify couldn't get working.17:43
moondoggyWell, might not work for you, but that's what I'm referring to.17:44
moondoggyIt's just poke & hope, but it gets my speakers / headphones working.17:44
mkanyicymoondoggy: its deeper than that, my sound card is not recognized at all17:45
moondoggyOh, that's beyond me, then.17:45
hydruidmkanyicy: model of sound card?17:46
phunyguy!details | mkanyicy17:46
ubottumkanyicy: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."17:46
hydruidmkanyicy: you sure your should card works?17:46
volneikroegerHello all17:46
phunyguythat's not the one I wanted...17:46
volneikroegerI need to remove the top panel of unity, is it possible?17:46
phunyguyvolneikroeger: not without using something otehr than Unity17:47
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phunyguyother*17:47
Mondayvolneikroeger, maybe try Linux Mint17:47
phunyguy!mint17:47
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org17:47
phunyguydo not reccommend mint please.17:48
Mondayits the number one distro on distrowatch now17:48
phunyguyso?17:48
hydruidphunyguy: !rude | phunyguy17:48
hydruid!rude | phunyguy17:48
hydruidhmm tthat didn't work lol17:48
bazhangMonday, its not supported here, please dont recommend it17:48
phunyguythat wasn't rude...17:48
bazhanghydruid, cut that out17:49
phunyguyI said please.17:49
hydruidbazhang: It was a joke.....I apologize17:49
volneikroegerphunyguy: I try switch compiz for metacity and it work's on some thinclients, but one model continue show the launcher and top bar..17:49
bazhanghydruid, wrong channel for jokes; #ubuntu-offtopic for that17:49
hydruidvolneikroeger: It's not recommended or supported to remove the bar17:49
hydruidbazhang: understood17:49
IamTryingI need URGENT the kernel linux-headers-3.2.0-17-generic  where is it available as .deb ?17:50
phunyguyIamTrying: http://packages.ubuntu.com/17:51
phunyguyyou can search for it if it exists in there17:51
volneikroegerwe need a restricted gnome enviroment for our users, and I always use gnome-classic without panels for this, but in Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-classic the rdesktop freezes the machines17:51
volneikroegerit not happen with unity, only with gnome-classic17:52
Mondayvolneikroeger, like i said17:52
phunyguyMonday, stop that! Please!17:53
volneikroegerMonday: i work a lot in our ltsp image and we don't have time to spend with new distro17:53
Mondaybut the current support gnome based desktop environments are Mate and Cinnamon17:53
Ari-Yang!ar17:53
ubottuLa comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe17:53
Ari-Yang!arb17:53
ubottuThe Application Review Board is responsible for vetting applications to be added to stable releases through the Post-Release Apps Process -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PostReleaseApps/Process17:53
IamTryingphunyguy, its completely removed? not there it was stable now gone? http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/kernel/17:54
phunyguyMonday you were asked nicely.17:54
phunyguyIamTrying: that I do not know.17:54
Mondayphunyguy, is this a fan club or real support channel?17:55
mR0rI0nhey im new to linux i was curious about updating a kernel17:55
mR0rI0nis anyone even here17:56
phunyguy!patience |mR0rI0n17:56
ubottumR0rI0n: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/17:56
Gnea!kernel | mR0rI0n17:56
ubottumR0rI0n: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)17:56
john_johnhow do I choose which program that should start whenever I download a .torrent file?17:57
phunyguyIamTrying: maybe state your real issue and why you need that kernel version back?17:57
MondayIdleOne why did you kick me?17:57
jYis there a api or webservice where i can send like a http request for a package that needs to be upgraded to see what severity it might be?17:57
phunyguyIamTrying: We might be able to suggest another solution17:57
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IamTryingphunyguy, I have tried all the kernel that is available, none works except that one17:58
IdleOneMonday: because you were asked nicely not to recommend unsupported distros in here and then you got an attitude with the user who was trying to help you.17:58
mR0rI0nwell im currently on kernel version 3.0 and ver now and again my compter goes into panic mode17:58
mR0rI0nevery*17:58
john_johnanyone?17:58
IamTryingphunyguy, i had one stable configuration where i have http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/xorg-edgers/oneiric/main/base/linux-image-3.2.0-17-generic  only used there it works but all other kernel keeps crashing my system.17:58
phunyguyIamTrying: have you tried a quantal kernel? (3.5.x)17:59
phunyguyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack17:59
IamTryingphunyguy, yes 3.5 , 3.8 , last one too + reverse version by version NONE of them WORKS17:59
phunyguyIamTrying: give that a try.17:59
phunyguyoh17:59
phunyguyIamTrying: have you filed a bug?17:59
MondayIdleOne, if Ubuntu cannot provide a solution to the problem, why would you refuse to direct them to a possible solution somewhere else?17:59
IamTryingphunyguy, i exactly need this one: Linux e300gent 3.2.0-17-generic18:00
phunyguyMonday: because that isn't what we do here.18:00
phunyguyIamTrying: have you filed a bug report?18:00
phunyguy!bug18:00
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.18:00
IamTryingphunyguy, its being filed but people were suggestion wrong18:00
ergotronman18:00
ergotronwhy does this thing keep asking for my password18:00
IamTryingphunyguy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/120761218:00
phunyguyYou can't use 3.2.0-17 forever. :)18:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1207612 in linux (Ubuntu) "046d:0825 Using webcam fills log with xhci_hcd errors" [Medium,Fix released]18:00
ergotronto install a damn printer18:00
IamTryingphunyguy, i dont need other versions only this one: 3.2.0-1718:01
IamTryingphunyguy, its for my embedded hardware18:01
phunyguyIamTrying: ok sorry, I tried.18:01
phunyguyif there is a bug, not much else I can do from here.18:01
IamTryingphunyguy, not a bug, just that kernel i need18:01
phunyguyI see.18:02
volneikroegerphunyguy: for default metacity show the launcher and top panel or not? for me on some hardware's yes and other hardware not.. very weird18:02
phunyguyIamTrying: so my question is, what is it about that kernel that you need?18:03
phunyguyIamTrying: is it missing hardware support?18:03
phunyguy(I mean are the others)18:03
IamTryingphunyguy, yes that kernel had Nvidia card + my other usb devices drivers working18:04
phunyguyYou shouldn't have to be locked into one specific kernel version, no matter what hardware you are on.18:04
IamTryingphunyguy, its my dead line i urgent need to rollback to that kernel18:04
phunyguyIamTrying: my concern is other packages that depend on the newer version18:05
phunyguythings that are compiled for that version./18:05
moon`I've got a laptop with windows 8 on it and a laptop with unbuntu on it.  How do I set it up so when I have an ethernet cable connecting the two laptops I can transfer files between them?18:06
phunyguy!samba | moon`18:06
ubottumoon`: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.18:06
phunyguywell that wasn't what I wanted18:06
sam113101moon`: you need a crossover cable18:06
keith_Interesting problem today. After a reboot, all sound becomes distorted - sounds to me like 2 or maybe 3 versions of the same audio very slightly delayed and out of synch. Any ideas where to look?18:07
moon`crossover cable?18:07
sam113101yup18:07
moon`I've got the two machines plugged in together with an ehternet cable, that won't work?18:07
phunyguymoon`: do you have link lights?18:07
moon`yes18:07
phunyguyok, then you need to share a folder out from one machine18:07
ziadingowhat is social cannel?18:08
phunyguyignore the factoid I posted, it is quite wrong.18:08
ziadingofreenode?18:08
lid6j86i have a problem trying to purge mono from ubuntu 13.04.  i've tried from the software manager, from synaptic, and from the terminal18:08
moon`I setup a folder on the windows machine to be shared with the public but I don't see it on the ubuntu machine anywhere18:08
sam113101can you ping your other machine?18:09
lid6j86when i try to remove from the terminal it says errors were encountered while processing: libmono-system-net4.0-cil18:09
ziadingohelp me :D18:09
sam113101try to make them ping each other first18:09
lid6j86sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)18:09
zykotick9lid6j86: i'd suggest against trying to remove mono, if you use gnome/unity...  (which sucks...)18:09
IamTryingapt-get build-dep <package_name>  can i use same for linux-header- packages?18:09
phunyguymoon`: http://www.sitepoint.com/ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-file-sharing-with-samba/ this may help18:09
lid6j86zykotic, how do i repair it then?18:09
moon`wait wait, I just got told I need to install the windows sharing service to be able to share on the ubuntu machine by the OS18:09
zykotick9!tab > lid6j8618:09
ubottulid6j86, please see my private message18:09
lid6j86i've tried in synaptic and the software manager and it wont let me18:09
moon`windows network sharing service, sorry18:10
moon`thanks phunyguy18:10
zykotick9lid6j86: try "sudo apt-get -f install" from terminal, does it get the same error?18:10
lid6j86let me try18:10
jYis there a tool that scans CVE info and says what i should upgrade and what CVE id it's associated with?18:10
IamTryingphunyguy, That means Ubuntu has some EVIL side. So we need to maintain and manage our own repository right? It seems like most working version is removed by someone intentionally or so18:10
phunyguymoon`: samba uses cifs which is the same thing Windows uses for sharing files18:10
phunyguyIamTrying: updates happen./18:10
phunyguy:(18:10
lid6j86let me past bin the output18:11
IamTryingphunyguy, nvm, i will try to make my own repo, cause its very risky how Ubuntu is changing the old versions and not available easyly18:11
phunyguyok got work to do, bbl18:11
zykotick9phunyguy: re:moon` 1) if cable is direct, it may require a crossover cable 2) ip address may need to be manually set on both systems.18:11
lid6j86http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067433/18:12
ergotroni need to format my gf and put a better os on it. .. she always 'panics' unexpectedly and wants to spawn a child18:12
ergotron:|18:12
moon`I don't know what you mean by a crossover cable?18:12
zykotick9lid6j86: it's just "sudo apt-get -f install" nothing else18:12
lid6j86i tried it and it still brings up the same error18:12
blazemore!tab > blazemore18:13
ubottublazemore, please see my private message18:13
lid6j86http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067436/18:13
zykotick9lid6j86: when i see "unmet dependencies" i'd guess you either A) manually installed something from a DEB, or B) are mixing repos.  i can't/won't help further.18:13
lid6j86definitely didn't install anything manually18:14
ObrienDavemoon`==> a crossover cable properly connects 2 ethernet ports for communications between 2 computers without the need for routers, switches, or hubs.18:15
lid6j86what happened was i was installing monoruntime and monodevelop and my computer froze in the middle18:15
Mondaymoon`, something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681211915618:16
zykotick9lid6j86: have you tried installing libmono-corlib4.0-cil and libmono-system4.0-cil18:16
zykotick9lid6j86: and mono-gac18:16
lid6j86i have, for all but mono-gac18:16
lid6j86they are each producing the same error18:17
hydruidI need to run libc6 version 2.15 with 13.04.....any suggestions which route to take?18:17
zykotick9lid6j86: "apt-cache policy mono-runtime"18:17
lid6j86http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067444/18:18
ObrienDavemoon`==> if there are routers, switches or hubs between the 2 computers, then ethernet requires straight through cables18:18
lid6j86when i try to install the individual items it says : dpkg: error processing libmono-system-net4.0-cil (--configure):18:19
lid6j86 Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should18:19
zykotick9lid6j86: intersting, that looks to be the default ubuntu mono... i got nothing for ya.  best of luck.18:20
zykotick9lid6j86: you have run "sudo apt-get update" and tried again right?18:20
lid6j86let me try one more time just to make sure, but i have yea18:21
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lid6j86yea same issue18:22
lid6j86maybe a boot-repair?18:22
lid6j86er not boot repair but18:22
zykotick9lid6j86: good luck...18:22
blazemorelid6j86: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages18:22
blazemorelid6j86: That will fix it ^ but it will take 5 mins18:23
lid6j86what does it do, reload all dependencies?18:23
lid6j86nevermind, i guess the command is pretty self explanitory18:23
blazemoreIt is essentially a "nuke & pave" for your package database18:24
blazemoreIt's just a script, it runs the commands on each line in turn. You can see what it does by reading it. I may add comments to each line actually18:24
phunyguyblazemore: looks nice, well done.18:24
lid6j86appreciate it blaze18:24
phunyguylid6j86: you really should tab complete nicks18:25
Gsportkudos18:25
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lid6j86tab nicks?18:25
phunyguy!tab18:25
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.18:25
phunyguyit helps because it highlights the person you are talking to on their end.18:25
lid6j86when i tab it just changes focus of text boxes18:25
phunyguyoh....18:26
phunyguyweb client?18:26
lid6j86nope18:26
phunyguyfix your client then. :)18:26
lid6j86downloaded xchat through the software center18:26
phunyguyoh xchat should do that.18:26
phunyguytype phuny and hit tab18:26
lid6j86ah ok, it's cause i wasn't doing it in the right order18:27
lid6j86got it now, thanks18:27
phunyguynp.18:27
ObrienDavenormally 3 letters will suffice for TAB completion. depends on who's in the room18:27
phunyguyit helps a lot iin busy channels like this18:27
lid6j86appreciate the help folks18:27
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Mondayno one used tab in the last 20 lines18:28
phunyguyMonday: still trolling I see...18:28
ObrienDavedont need to if you REALLY follow the conversation18:28
Mondayi know18:28
lid6j86wow18:28
phunyguyMonday: I was referring to the half-nicks he was typing.18:29
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phunyguynot the lack of nicks.18:29
lid6j86blazemore, even doing that process it came back with the same error18:29
moon`okay, success.  Thank you for the help18:29
phunyguylid6j86: there ya go!18:29
caodepalhacan i get some info on how to add new plugins to ardour?18:29
phunyguycaodepalha: a simple google search with the first link: http://manual.ardour.org/working-with-plugins/18:30
Mondaylid6j86, maybe just try a simple "sudo apt-get autoclean" and try to install it again18:31
phunyguyMonday: way ahead of you there.18:31
phunyguyMonday: did you even look at the script that blazemore posted?18:32
phunyguyblazemore: I would also change that script to remove the sudo commands and then run the command as sudo.18:33
phunyguyerr run the script as sudo18:33
GsportThis work can yield 50~100% performance improvements and in some cases making the games under Wine faster than on Windows.  This work can yield 50~100% performance improvements and in some cases making the games under Wine faster than on Windows.18:33
Gsporthttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ1Mjk18:33
phunyguyGsport: please don't spam.18:34
lid6j86blazemore, negative.  is it possible to do a cd repair or something?18:34
Gsport100 % imptovements wow18:34
IamTryingphunyguy, I need to save from one stable ubuntu box some packages to .deb  so that i can use those package versions and debug. How can i save installed package to something like package1.deb ?18:35
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Gsportthat means if a game on windows plays at 1 fps in linux will run over 100 fps18:35
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sipiorwhere to start.18:36
blazemorelid6j86: Can you please pastebin any error you're getting now?18:37
Gsportsipior, are you using win8?18:37
blazemoresipior: ?18:37
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phunyguyGsport: please stop that18:37
Gsportthe lack of humour on this channel is overwelming18:38
phunyguyyou want humor, go to !ot18:38
phunyguy!ot18:38
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:38
lid6j86blazemore, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067518/18:38
phunyguyGsport: you have to realize, there are almost 1800 users in here.  There simply is too much activity to allow humor.18:39
Jarvisis there any drunken_monk here ?18:40
Gsporti bet ubuntu-offtopic is full of grumpy trolls with a thisrdt for vengeance18:40
phunyguyGsport: you were asked nicely.18:40
imarkfor some stupid reason lightdm depends on unity, can i install lightdm without pulling in unity and all of its extensive dependencies and related applications?18:40
Mondayhonestly, for almost 1800 users this channel isn't that active18:40
ObrienDaveobviously Gsport does not understand basic mathematical percentages18:40
honestlyMonday: yeah, I know18:40
blazemoreCan I make Apache serve a different page for a different user agent? ie if someone uses wget they should get one file, but in a browser they should get another? Ubuntu 12.04, apache 2.2.2218:40
usr13Gsport: Why don't you join #ubuntu-offtopic and see.18:41
Gsporti understand you cant have over 100 percent18:41
ObrienDaveyes you can. see? *don't feed the trolls%18:41
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blazemorelid6j86: sudo apt-get remove libmono-system-net4.0-cil18:41
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lid6j86blazemore, same error, blaze18:42
Gsportyes i understand math allows for just about anything even impossibilities18:43
blazemorelid6j86: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq ibmono-system-net4.0-cil18:43
IamTryingWhy it fails? # apt-get download linux-image-3.2.0-17-generic E: FindIndex failed18:43
ObrienDaveumm, like the vacuum between the ears?18:43
blazemoreIamTrying: Run sudo apt-get update first18:43
LinuxGolddo ubuntu have kernel 3.11 in repository?18:44
LinuxGoldif not, I'll experiment with 3.11 from source18:44
IamTryingblazemore, Same problem18:44
blazemoreLinuxGold: Not in the repositories, but there are easier ways than source18:44
Ari-YangLinuxGold, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/18:44
lid6j86blazemore, may have done it, looks good so far, going to try to re-install the mono-runtime and find out now18:44
IamTryingblazemore, i need to export the existing kernel as deb and install it in another PC18:44
LinuxGoldthanks I'll check that ou18:45
LinuxGoldah, deb package18:45
Ari-YangLinuxGold, if you're doing this for the purpose of DPM get http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/18:45
Ari-YangI just installed the latest myself18:45
lid6j86blazemore, you are a life saver, that's twice you've helped.  thanks18:46
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blazemorelid6j86: Really, what was the first time?18:46
lid6j86blazemore,  i was in here earlier... already forgot what it was about lol, think it was about amd drivers, purging the old ones so that i could re-install them18:47
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blazemoreYes I remember. My general advice for you is, in the nicest possible way, please have some humility regarding your own level of experience. Don't follow a tutorial if you couldn't fix it if it all broke :P18:49
blazemoreOr at least, procede with caution and research :)18:49
ObrienDaveand more research18:50
lid6j86the graphics one i haven't had an issue in the past, i just didn't know that being in a folder with deb packages with a similar name would cause it to jump in and look there, but it's a good learning experience18:50
chaotic_goodwith great power comes great pportunity to make people do stuff18:50
chaotic_good:)18:50
chaotic_goodand have fun18:50
lid6j86trust me, i've been saving all the commands you guys have been having me try for the future ;)18:50
chaotic_goodlid6j86: learn lisp programming18:51
lid6j86lisp?18:51
bazhangchaotic_good, lets stay on topic please18:51
ObrienDavelisp is an fairly old programming language18:52
IamTryingWhere is this KERNEL version?? 0.o!!!! no 3.2.0.17-generic??? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2-rc7-precise/18:52
jakemphow do I switch back to the old "autocomplete" when typing while browsing files, and get rid of the new, slow, useless "I'll try and search everything"18:52
IamTryingWhere was it before? 3.2.0.17-generic?? was it here or not ?? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2-rc7-precise/18:52
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jakempwhat is the name of the "files" application?18:59
ObrienDaveummm, files?19:00
jakempwhen I open a console19:00
jakempI type files19:00
jakempand it's not found19:00
Picijakemp: what 'files' application are you asking about?19:01
ObrienDaveare you asking for the directory files list?19:01
jakempwhen you press the super key, and type files. The default file viewer19:01
jakempcomes with default ubuntu19:01
jakempthe about no longer gives the actual application name19:01
ObrienDaveno clue, sorry19:02
IdleOnejakemp: I think you mean nautilus19:03
jakempthat's it IdleOne, thank you19:05
IdleOnejakemp: welcome19:05
jakempokay, now, is there a way to disable the search when I start typing in nautilus? I see no settings for it.19:07
flemmingHello19:08
flemminghi19:08
flemmingwtf lolol19:08
wilee-nileejakemp, my guess would be dconf-editor19:09
LinuxGoldLinux minecraftsrv 3.11.0-996-generic #201309050405 SMP Thu Sep 5 08:06:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux19:09
LinuxGold*ahh*19:09
LinuxGoldthanks.19:09
kanchohow can I listen instantly what comes in through the mic interface?19:10
wilee-nileeflemming, don't start out with swearing acronyms19:10
Dev_Antarhi People ...19:12
daftykinshello.19:12
flemmingHow do i highlight text in terminal only by using the keyboard? (In windows it's shift + arrow etc)19:13
Dev_Antaris there an alternative to artisteer ?19:13
jakempoh, it looks like they removed that feature with nautilus 3.619:13
ObrienDavekancho==> look for Audacity. It can do audio passthrough19:13
jakempbut there is another fork from the cinnamon folks19:14
Dev_Antarguys19:14
daftykinsDev_Antar: if nobody has replied it means nobody knows / nobody is active that knows.19:14
daftykinswhilst you wait, you can research it for yourself online19:15
jakempyeah, I've never heard of artisteer19:15
LinuxGoldhmm... sendbytes: NAK bailout is listing every few second/minutes19:15
Dev_Antardaftykins i understand .. :)19:15
ObrienDavekancho==> look for Audacity. It can do audio pass through with only a few milliseconds of delay19:16
flemmingHow do i check private messages without leaving the room?19:16
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CeyajeHello19:21
CeyajeAnyone here to help?19:21
Jagst3r15anyone know if the 5 GNOME Core Apps: Maps, Music, Photos, Software & Calendar will ever be made default in Ubuntu?19:22
ikoniaJagst3r15: what do you mean ?19:22
Jagst3r15ikonia well we know that there are core apps19:22
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ikoniayes19:23
Jagst3r15but these new ones look awesome and will essentially replace/put in place better apps19:23
ObrienDaveCeyaje==> just ask the question, please19:23
ikoniaso as they are only in preview in gnome 3.10 - it seems unlikley to be default until they are stable19:23
Jagst3r15so will the new gnome music app replace rhythmbox since it would be default in GNOME when relessed19:23
wilee-nileeCeyaje, not without a description19:23
Jagst3r15but will they be default u think? I hope Ubuntu doesnt play stubborn and not include the19:24
Jagst3r15them*19:24
ikoniaJagst3r15: I dont see why they would not be unless they conflict with what ubuntu needs19:24
CeyajeI'm looking to disable 4 finger multitap. The uTouch one that opens the dash. It's constantly misfiring and screwing things up, so I was wondering if there was a command line prompt to disable it (Only reason I didn't ask my question right away was because it seemed quiet for a moment.)19:24
Jagst3r15ikonia thanks :)19:24
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ObrienDaveCeyaje==> sorry, i don't know a thing about it19:25
Salhello19:26
Sali'm trying to install ubuntu for the first time on my laptop19:26
Jagst3r15ikonia does only GNOME folk work on the apps or do Ubuntu people help?19:26
Salbut wifi aint working19:26
CeyajeIt's the most annoying thing and there's absolutely no information online on how to disable it. At least not anything that makes sense.19:26
ikoniaJagst3r15: I don't know, it's open project, so I guess anyone who feels they can help will help19:26
Jagst3r15ah, I see19:27
Salshould i continue to install ubuntu and then fix the wifi problem, or is there a way to add wifi drivers during installation?19:27
wilee-nileeSal, run lspci and post the hardware19:27
CeyajeSal, hook up to ethernet, go to Software and Updates, and click "Additional Drivers". You can activate your card and it will install the driver.19:27
wilee-nileeFor the wifi19:27
ixioany suggestions on how to graph a servers performance, specifically response to MySQL queries?19:27
ixioif I could also graph hits to the website at the same time that would be good19:28
ixiosomething like mrtg, but for websites/mysql.. nagios.. but easier19:28
rdw200169ixio: see logstash19:28
ixioty19:28
mungbeani don't get asked for password after resume fromsuspend in 3.8 kernel on 12.04 , is that by design?19:28
Salwilee-nilee, can't run lspci because there aint no linux on the laptop yet19:28
SalCeyaje, the only way to do that is to connect the laptop to the router, that is in another room19:29
CeyajeIt's not a permanent connection. You just need to give it a hard connection until you download the driver.19:29
SalCeyaje, what about connecying it to another pc? is that possible?19:30
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Salor do i need a cross cable for that19:30
CeyajeIs there a reason you can't bring the laptop to the router?19:31
Salok, i'll try that19:31
CeyajeIt's literally a 3 second install. Seriously, that's the easiest way to fix it. Anything else is just kind of silly.19:32
Salok, so i first install ubuntu without driver19:32
Salthen i connect my ethernet to the router19:32
Saland go to updates to find thedriver19:33
Salis that it?19:33
CeyajeSoftware & Updates > Additional Drivers > then choose your wifi card, hit "Use this [...]" and hit Apply Changes19:34
flemminghello19:34
SalCeyaje, ok, i'll start19:34
CeyajeUbuntu's very good at finding the necessary drivers. If it doesn't, you can contact the company for your router and ask where you can install the driver. But that shouldn't happen.19:35
CeyajeGood luck19:35
Sali have already found forum posts that resolve it19:35
Salmy laptop should have wifi and audio driver problems19:35
Saland i fond both solutions19:35
wilee-nileeSal, what is the card?19:36
Salwilee-nilee, wait, searching19:36
drewdinstalled grub-efi-amd64 with 12.04, boots with grubx64 giving me list of os bt when i choose ubuntu gives me a blank screen19:37
Salwilee-nilee, this is what i found http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatdb/details/olidata_stainer_w2800_linux.html19:37
wilee-nileeSal, run lspci it will tell you19:38
vickthello19:39
Salwilee-nilee, ok, i'll do that first then running in demo mode19:39
fruitFlywhat is the most recent LTS version?19:40
ixioany other ideas on something simple to graph server performance, specifically mysql queries (response time) and website hits ?19:40
phunyguy!12.0419:40
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120419:40
green_geeky_dudesafdasdsdrf19:41
green_geeky_dudesorry guys that was my cat.19:41
wilee-nileeSal, if you can run ethernet just do that and install, the drivers needed overall may just load, tick the update while installing box too19:42
Salok19:43
wilee-nileeSal, otherwise you will downloading thw wifi on another computer and loading it to that one.19:43
NickDGEhi, anyone wanna help me troubleshoot a screen brightness adjustment problem on an acer aspire 5750? PM me, thanks in advance.19:48
phunyguy!pm | NickDGE19:48
ubottuNickDGE: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.19:48
XfaulzHi.19:49
zwiep`Fjustaguy19:49
NickDGEalright, well, basically, i can't control the screen brightness on this laptop. i've found a solution, but i need to add kernel lines, which i dont know how to do, not exactly a power user. any ideas are gladly accepted.19:49
XfaulzHow can I check my apt-get repository?19:50
Xfaulzlike, which repositories I am using...etc19:50
fruitFlyis linux mint more stable than ubuntu?19:50
phunyguyNickDGE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireS319:50
phunyguyNickDGE: are you talking about that process?19:50
XfaulzfruitFly, Linux Mint is KDE.19:50
XfaulzfruitFly: if you're more of a Windows-fan, you can try out Mint.19:50
phunyguy!mint | fruitFly19:50
ubottufruitFly: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org19:50
usr13!repos | Xfaulz19:50
ubottuXfaulz: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.19:50
Xfaulzusr13, can you just tell me how.19:51
phunyguyyou too Xfaulz, please don't recommend it.19:51
fruitFlyXfaulz: you can get mint xfce19:51
phunyguyfruitFly: please stop.19:51
Xfaulz!ot > fruitFly19:51
ubottufruitFly, please see my private message19:51
fruitFlyphunyguy: not so much of a fun guy r ya :P19:51
NickDGEphunyguy ,thank you for the link, i'll try that out and report back :)19:51
fruitFlyI will19:51
zwiep`maybe hes more like a mushroom19:52
zwiep`teehee19:52
phunyguyalright, lets keep the offtopic banter to a minimum please.19:52
Marleneei get error when i use -   nohup: ignoring input and redirecting stderr to stdout19:53
Marleneeand after that he killed  -  [2]+  Exit 119:53
phunyguyMarlenee: please pastebin full output19:55
phunyguy!paste19:55
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:55
phunyguyfull command and output*19:55
daftykinsphunyguy: he got killed :'( heh19:55
phunyguy:-/19:55
daftykinsi was amused at the lack of info19:56
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phunyguyokok.  offtopic.19:56
Marleneeit doesent matter the command19:56
neyder_hi there19:57
daftykinshi19:57
Marleneei just get that error and after that the command is killed without any details19:57
neyder_i'm preseeding an automated install in OEM mode, how can I preseed the last confirmation of OEM?19:57
fruitFlyhow much longer will 12.04 be supported?19:59
fruitFlyand when is the next LTS?19:59
Slart!12.0419:59
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120419:59
IdleOne14.04 is the next lts19:59
Slarthmm.. there is a chart somewhere on the ubuntu-site with supported lifetimes, LTS and whatnot19:59
Slart21:57 < Marlenee> i just get that error and after that the command is killed without any details19:59
Slart21:57 < neyder_> i'm preseeding an automated install in OEM mode, how can I preseed the last confirmation of OEM?20:00
ThePaRaDoXHello. i am dealing with a small issue with TCL. i installed tcl-dev but upon configure of eggdrop bot it says TCL not found20:00
Slart21:59 < fruitFly> how much longer will 12.04 be supported?20:00
Slartoops.. I hate that middle button20:00
ThePaRaDoXrelevant pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067804/20:00
FloodBot1Slart: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:00
Slartsorry20:00
ikoniaThePaRaDoX: is tcl actually on the system20:00
ThePaRaDoXikonia well i installed tcl-dev and if you check the pastebin you will see that it says found20:00
Monday fruitFly it will be supported until 201720:01
neyder_Slart, i was hopping you i'll helpme20:01
ikoniaThePaRaDoX: that's not tcl, that's just headers20:01
Slartneyder_: mm, I'm sorry to get your hopes up.. never done an automated install =/20:01
MondayfruitFly, the next LTS will be in April 201420:01
ThePaRaDoXok well i did try sudo apt-get install tcl8.6 too20:01
neyder_xD20:01
fruitFlyMonday: thankyou20:01
ThePaRaDoXsame errors20:01
ikoniaThePaRaDoX: so is tcl installed, can you find the binary ?20:01
neyder_type tcl20:02
Kitar|sthttp://wiresmash.com/how-to/very-useful-and-interesting-food-tips/ om nom nom20:02
Kitar|st:)20:02
ThePaRaDoXcommand not found20:02
ThePaRaDoXhmm20:02
ikoniaKitar|st: don't need that in this channel please20:02
ikoniaKitar|st: this channel is for ubuntu discussion only20:02
neyder_ThePaRaDoX, ikonia use: "type tcl" to find out20:02
ThePaRaDoX-bash: type: tcl: not found20:02
ikonianeyder_: I don't need to type that - that just shows the path, I asked if the binary was on your system20:02
neyder_ikonia, if type doesn't find out, sois not installed (at least in $PATH)20:03
ikonianeyder_: I didn't ask if it was in his path20:03
ikonianeyder_: I asked if it was on his system as it will also have relations to tcl-config20:04
ThePaRaDoXok so the sudo apt-get install tcl8.6 is not the correct one?20:04
neyder_ikonia, take it easy20:04
ikonianeyder_: pardon ?20:04
ThePaRaDoXcomatose@homeserver:~/IRC/eggdrop1.6.21$ sudo apt-get install tcl8.620:04
ThePaRaDoXtcl8.6 is already the newest version.20:04
ThePaRaDoXdoes this answer your q: ikonia20:04
ikoniaThePaRaDoX: no, however I suspect there needs to be a simlink to tcl to your actual tcl version20:05
ikonia!info tcl20:05
ubottutcl (source: tcltk-defaults): The Tool Command Language (default version) - run-time files. In component main, is optional. Version 8.5.0-2ubuntu5 (raring), package size 3 kB, installed size 50 kB20:05
ikoniaThePaRaDoX: look at the version 8.520:05
ikoniapvh_sa: where did you get 8.6 ?20:05
ikoniaoops ThePaRaDoX where did you get 8.620:05
ikoniaand "why" did you get 8.620:05
ThePaRaDoXno freakin idea. let me remove and install 8.520:05
ikonia!info tcl8.620:05
ubottutcl8.6 (source: tcl8.6): Tcl (the Tool Command Language) v8.6 - run-time files. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.6.0-1 (raring), package size 1249 kB, installed size 4120 kB20:05
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ikoniaThePaRaDoX: ahh it is in there20:05
ThePaRaDoXwant me to remove and use .520:06
ikoniaThePaRaDoX: ok, so I suspect if you type tcl8.6 you'll get a tcl shell20:06
ThePaRaDoXnope command not found20:06
ikoniaThePaRaDoX: hang on, let me boot an ubuntu machine20:06
ThePaRaDoXi appreciate your help ikonia20:06
flemmingHello all20:07
ikoniaThePaRaDoX: ls -la /usr/bin/tclsh20:08
usr13Try tclsh20:08
ThePaRaDoXlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Sep 5 22:49 /usr/bin/tclsh -> /etc/alternatives/tclsh20:08
ThePaRaDoXi did get a terminal like thing there with tclsh20:09
ikoniaThePaRaDoX: ok, follow that symlink, and you'll find what version it's using20:09
ThePaRaDoXi didnt get you. havent used linux in quite a while so i am starting to get unfamiliar20:10
ikoniaThePaRaDoX: follow that sylink through,20:10
ikoniaThePaRaDoX: you'll probably find that eggdrop is looking for "tcl" as a command rather than tclsh20:11
ThePaRaDoXso how can i fix that to make it see20:12
ikoniacheck what it's lookig for and either change the test, or create a symlink for the binary it calls20:12
elasticbob500 fat nìggers20:13
usr13apt-cache policy tclsh20:13
ThePaRaDoXusr13 none installed20:14
ThePaRaDoXInstalled: (none)20:14
b0xhi.. ive got an odd issue. when i move my mouse all the way to the right of the screen, it "magically" just appears on the left side. going to the other sides does not do this.20:16
delinquentmegiven a name of a process ... is it easy to find out if its running?20:17
b0xthis makes using scroll bars on full screen apps a pain as they are often tiny20:17
Dev_AntarHi20:17
Dev_AntarWhat is the best web development IDE for Ubuntu ??20:18
b0xi use sublime text20:18
b0xbut its not an ide20:18
b0xive heard good things about netbeans20:18
b0xeclipse20:19
Xfaulzyo b0x.20:19
Xfaulzit's the almighty b0x.20:19
Xfaulzanyways.20:19
Xfaulz!ot > b0x20:19
ubottub0x, please see my private message20:19
Xfaulzthat is all.20:19
Dev_Antarb0x which eclipse ??20:20
b0xwhat web dev are you doing? php?20:20
Dev_Antarphp html css JS20:21
b0xlook into both, see if they fit your needs20:21
b0xi find them a bit bloated for that20:21
Dev_Antarb0x how can i install it ?20:21
b0xfrom their website20:22
b0xor the ubuntu software center20:22
Dev_Antarno i cant install from the source20:22
Agamemnushello20:23
Agamemnusi'm very confused, a little help?20:24
Agamemnushow do I get out of something that does not end?... via command line20:24
AgamemnusI type something and the command line doesn't come back.20:24
AgamemnusI just get a cursor20:24
infinit__CTRL+C20:24
ikoniaAgamemnus: what are you typing20:24
Agamemnusa command20:24
ikoniawhich one20:24
infinit__Hit CTRL+C20:25
Dev_Antarbx0 can i continue the installation to the next time20:25
Agamemnus"mysqld start"20:25
ikoniayou don't do that20:25
ikoniaAgamemnus: that is not how you start it20:25
infinit__Did you HIT CTRL+C >>>>> ??20:25
Agamemnushow do I start it?20:25
Agamemnusyes, that didn't work.20:25
ikoniait uses the mysqld-safe script that's called from init20:25
ikoniaAgamemnus: how did you install mysql ?20:26
infinit__type /etc/init.d/mysqld start20:26
Agamemnusi didn't.20:26
Dev_Antarbx020:26
ikoniaAgamemnus: who installed it ?20:26
Agamemnusno idea20:26
infinit__type /etc/init.d/mysqld stop20:26
ikoniainfinit__: no20:26
Agamemnusok hold on20:26
ikoniainfinit__: ubuntu uses upstart20:26
Dev_Antarbx020:26
ikoniaAgamemnus: hold on20:26
ikoniaAgamemnus: what version of ubuntu is this ?20:26
Agamemnusnot found20:27
Agamemnus12.120:27
Agamemnusit only works when I go to the actual directory20:27
Agamemnusthen type in mysqld stop20:27
ikoniathere is no 12.1 version20:27
Dev_Antarcan i continue the installing of a software to the next time ????20:27
ikonia12.10 ?20:27
Agamemnus12.1020:28
Agamemnusif i do that..20:28
Agamemnusif I go to etc/init.d/20:28
Agamemnusand type in mysqld stop20:28
AgamemnusI just get a cursor20:28
ikoniano no no no no20:28
Agamemnusand no way to get back20:28
ikoniactrl+c will exit it20:28
ikoniabut please stop typing mysqld start/stop20:28
Agamemnusit does not work20:29
Agamemnusctrl+c does not work20:29
ikoniait should20:29
ikoniaAgamemnus: bottom line is mysqld should start on system boot20:29
Agamemnusi am using putty to connect if that helps20:29
Dev_AntarAgamemnus why not sudo service mysqld stop20:29
Agamemnusunrecognized service20:30
ikoniaAgamemnus: ok, so this looks odd20:30
ikoniaAgamemnus: lets check some tuff20:30
ikoniaAgamemnus: please type "uname -a" and show me the output20:30
AgamemnusLinux srv-1.ezqconsulting.com 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux20:31
ikoniaAgamemnus: ok,20:31
ikoniaAgamemnus: sudo apt-get install mysql-server20:31
ALLTHECODEThe GetJuju link on the jujucharms website 404s: https://juju.ubuntu.com/get-started/20:31
Agamemnusdid it.20:31
delinquentmewhats the general term used to describe the USB ports?20:31
Agamemnusstill unrecognized service.20:31
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ikoniaALLTHECODE: get rid of "get-started"20:32
calwighow can I bundle up some files into a bootable ISO20:32
calwigdoes K3b enable ISO boot disk?20:32
delinquentmeI'm currently trying to sort out what devices are plugged into a machine with $ dmesg | tail20:32
ikoniaAgamemnus: what happened when you typed "sudo apt-get install"20:32
ikoniaAgamemnus: please stop rushing ahead typing comments20:32
ikoniacommands20:32
Agamemnusit upgraded mysql-server.20:32
ikoniaAgamemnus: no - install will noy upgrade20:32
delinquentmeI'm getting what looks to be like the correct output ... however the device which is plugged in isn't showing up20:32
Agamemnus"The following packages will be upgraded:"20:32
ikoniaAgamemnus: what did you type exactly20:33
Agamemnusexactly what you told me20:33
ikoniaAgamemnus: you tell me what you typed20:33
Dev_Antarikonia is there anyway to continue downloading an application from the Software Center to the next time ?20:33
Agamemnus"sudo apt-get install mysql-server"20:33
ikoniaDev_Antar: no20:33
ikoniaAgamemnus: ok, "sudo mysql start"20:33
ikoniaAgamemnus: don't type that20:33
ikoniaAgamemnus: sorry no20:33
Dev_Antarikonia so is there an alternative ?20:34
ikoniaAgamemnus: "sudo service mysql start"20:34
ikoniaDev_Antar: install it when you are ready to install it20:34
AgamemnusThe first one gives me this error:20:34
AgamemnusRROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)20:34
ikoniaAgamemnus: I told you not to type the first one20:34
Agamemnusthe second one says: "Job is already running: mysql"20:34
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ikoniaAgamemnus: ok, so mysqld is already running - as it should be as it boots at start20:35
Dev_Antaragamemnus why dont install the wamp by aptitude ?20:35
Agamemnuswamp?20:35
ikoniaDev_Antar: wamp ?20:35
ikoniaDev_Antar: what are you talking about,20:35
peyamhi20:35
Dev_Antarxamp20:35
ikoniaAgamemnus: my suggestion is 1.) reboot so your system is in a clean state20:36
Dev_Antarsorry20:36
ikoniaDev_Antar: because that is a terrible and unsupported idea20:36
peyamI just installed docky on my xubuntu 13.04 and I cant add items I want. does anyone know?20:36
ikoniaAgamemnus: 2.) mysqld should be running at startup - check it is running20:36
Agamemnusikonia: this is what happens when I try to connect: http://app.ezqconsulting.com/20:36
ikoniaAgamemnus: yes, because it looks like you've got it into a bad state20:36
ikoniaAgamemnus: reboot and lets walk through it20:36
Agamemnusyeah i tried to change the password, but then it would just not go back to the command line20:37
Agamemnusfollowing rackspace's guide20:37
Agamemnuswhat is the command to reboot, please?20:37
wilee-nileepeyam, You might ask in #docky if I recall it is from the drop up on the left.20:37
Agamemnusnever mind20:38
AgamemnusI typed in "reboot".20:38
Dev_Antarikonia so there is no way to continue , Unfortunately i have a slow internet connection ....20:38
Dev_Antareclipse is 223MB20:39
ikoniaDev_Antar: download it when you hav time20:39
Dev_Antar233.8MB20:39
AgamemnusOk, thanks ikonia.20:39
ikoniait's not a hard concept to grasp20:39
Dev_Antarmm Yeah20:39
Agamemnusis "reboot" correct?20:39
ikoniaAgamemnus: sure20:40
Agamemnusok, was just taking a while20:40
Agamemnuslooks like it all works now, thanks20:40
wilee-nileepeyam, http://wiki.go-docky.com/index.php?title=Adding/Removing_application_launchers,_folders_and_files20:40
Dev_Antarikonia have you an idea about web Development if Yes , i have a small Q ?20:40
ikoniaDev_Antar: is it anything to do with ubuntu ?20:41
chamunksThis is going to sound strange.  But I need to be able to reverse proxy ports to several endpoint servers.20:41
Agamemnusdev_antar, throw me a message, i can probably answer it20:41
chamunksSo Website.a.com sends ping to > My router sort of computer > the person behind my router.20:41
Dev_Antarikonia Unfortunately it is not about ubuntu ok ,20:41
Agamemnus"dev_antar, throw me a message, i can probably answer it"20:41
ikoniaDev_Antar: try #web then20:42
chamunkswhat can I do to forward this traffic through my machine so that website.a.com sees the IP of the router and not the person behind my router.20:42
econdudeawesomeGot a question: I use xmonad. Is there a way to return a floating window (alt+click to create) back to a tiled window?20:42
chamunksThis router is a ubuntu server 12.0420:42
kebomixhello, i'm connected to vpn through openvpn, but ubuntu still uses wifi connection not vpn connection, how to fix that?20:42
t_dot_zillaim going crazy trying to get a tftp server running on ubuntu 12.0420:42
SolarisBoychamunks: maybe something with iptables to mangle or otherwise modify the data.20:42
Dev_AntarAgamemnus can you send privat message i cant see on the users list (Emaphy Problem)20:43
chamunksSolarisBoy, eeeh20:43
Agamemnusikonia, now that it is rebooted, can you tell me why it can't seem to find mysql?20:43
AgamemnusI typed in "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop" ..20:43
Dev_Antari cant see you20:43
chamunksSolarisBoy, you wouldn't imagine UFW could handle it?20:43
ikoniaAgamemnus: check if it's running20:43
SolarisBoyufw == iptables it's just the frontend - that said no i dought ufw interface offers anything that complex, but ufw does allow a simple route into just using iptables the standard way20:44
Agamemnusikonia, unfortunately I don't know how to test if it's running.20:47
SolarisBoychamunks: man ufw-framework and take a look at overview - you can fir rules into one of those if you need to add something very complex and ufw doesn't provide a simple way too20:47
AgamemnusI went through the chat log and I'm lost.20:47
AgamemnusI know, I already forgot. Memory of a goldfish20:47
ikoniaAgamemnus: type "mysql"20:47
Agamemnusikonia: Access denied20:47
ikoniaAgamemnus: what is the username you want to connect as20:47
Agamemnusroot.20:47
ikoniaAgamemnus: mysql -u root -p20:48
Agamemnusbut I need to change the password.20:48
Agamemnusthe guide says i need to stop the service first20:48
ikoniaAgamemnus: this is concerning me a lot that you don't know how to do this, yet you are trying to do this20:48
ikoniaAgamemnus: lets check it's running first20:48
Agamemnusbut "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop" does not work20:48
Agamemnuswell it is, right?20:48
SolarisBoyif you start the mysqld with skip-grant tables option you dont need to authenticate20:48
kebomixignore my question solved it with this command "sudo route add default dev tun0"20:48
Agamemnusit's definitely running right now20:48
ikoniaAgamemnus: please stop doing random things, what is the point of me telling you to stop doing things and trying to guide you if you keep repeat doing the same thing20:48
ikoniaAgamemnus: ok - so that's good, it's running20:49
AgamemnusI can connect to my web-app.20:49
Agamemnus(for example)20:49
ikoniaAgamemnus: now why do you need to change the root password, because you forgot it, or because you want to change it20:49
ginjaninjajust upgraded to 13.04 xubuntu and my rt2500 wmp54g wireless pci stopp working! any help?20:49
phunyguy!details | ginjaninja20:49
ubottuginjaninja: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."20:49
AgamemnusI don't know what it is.20:50
ikoniaAgamemnus: ok, so you need to follow a process to start mysql without grant tables to change the password20:50
AgamemnusI'm trying to help a friend who fired his admin.20:50
Agamemnusyes, I was following this guide:20:50
ikoniaAgamemnus: you are not in a position to help someone do this - I suggest stopping20:50
Agamemnushttp://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/mysql-resetting-a-lost-mysql-root-password20:50
ikoniaAgamemnus: hire someone who can do this20:50
ikoniaAgamemnus: or talk to rackspace for help20:50
Agamemnussure I am... just tell me why the command does not work..?20:51
SolarisBoyi would suggest going to get that admin back - admins like lunch20:51
ikoniaAgamemnus: you are not in a position to help your friend20:51
ikoniaAgamemnus: it dosn't work like that "tell me the command" you need to do it properly and make sure it's secure after20:51
Agamemnuslook, it tells everything step by step.. "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop"20:51
Agamemnusbut that doesn't work.20:51
ikoniaAgamemnus: as you are not capable of stopping/starting the server, you should not be doing this20:51
ikoniaAgamemnus: then contact rack space and tell them their guide is wrong and ask for help20:51
phunyguyAgamemnus: then that is not a valid tutorial.20:51
Agamemnuswhat, why?20:51
Agamemnusnot the server, the mysql service.20:51
phunyguyAgamemnus: that command is incorrect.20:51
ikoniaAgamemnus: same thing20:52
SolarisBoybecause you dont know what to do when something is going wrong - which an admin generally does20:52
Agamemnuswhat is the command to stop the mysql service, pretty please?20:52
ikoniaAgamemnus: is this a rackspace server ?20:52
phunyguyfor example, the difference between init and upstart.20:52
ikoniaAgamemnus: it's not as simple as stopping it20:52
ginjaninjaI have a problem connecting to my WPA network after doing a clean install of 13.04 (xubuntu) . It worked with 12.04 after I fixed it, but I can20:52
Agamemnusright, it is.20:52
ikoniaAgamemnus: do not try to use that guide20:52
ikoniaAgamemnus: contact rack space and explain their guide is wrong20:52
ikoniaAgamemnus: ask them for help20:52
ikonia(support)20:52
Agamemnuswhy is it wrong?20:52
Agamemnusok, i'll contact them20:52
ikoniaAgamemnus: I'm not going through it with you20:52
Agamemnusfine.20:52
Agamemnusthanks.20:52
ginjaninjaI have a problem connecting to my WPA network after doing a clean install of 13.04 (xubuntu) . It worked with 12.04 after I fixed it, but I can't remember how i fixed it before . I am on the 3.9.0-030900rc8-generic kernal and I have a wmp54g pci card with a rt2500 driver20:53
Agamemnusin fact I am actually trying to get my friend out of rackspace.20:53
phunyguyginjaninja: are there any restricted drivers available?20:54
SolarisBoyultimately - wherever he goes he or someone should still have some knowledge of their systems unless of course they are fully managed.20:54
OerHeksginjaninja, a clean install with a RC kernel ?20:54
phunyguyaaahhh didn't even notice that20:55
Agamemnusikonia, actually I see several places that say "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop" ...20:55
Agamemnuscan you just at least tell me what could be wrong with that command, syntactically?20:55
SolarisBoynothing i see.20:55
Agamemnusmaybe it's sudo?20:56
ginjaninjaOerHeks, I downgraded thinking that was how I fixed it last time20:56
ikoniaAgamemnus: no , sudo is right20:56
phunyguyAgamemnus: ubuntu server?20:56
Agamemnusmaybe sudo is an old version.20:56
ginjaninjaphunyguy, I am not sure , how can i check?20:56
Agamemnus12.1020:56
ikoniaAgamemnus: Agamemnus no20:56
ikoniaAgamemnus: stop saying random things20:56
ikoniaAgamemnus: you have no idea what you are doing - contact rack space and ask for basic support20:56
ikoniaAgamemnus: this is why you should not be trying to help your friends as you can make things worse20:56
Agamemnuswell, you won't tell me why it is saying "command not found"..20:56
Agamemnusby your logic I shouldn't learn anything at all20:57
SolarisBoywhat is saying command not found?20:57
phunyguyI find it hard to believe that sudo is not found20:57
ikoniaAgamemnus: because it's not simple and you don't understand the basics, so conact your support20:57
ikoniaAgamemnus: saying "what do I type" is not learning20:57
Agamemnuswhen I type in "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop", I get command not found.20:57
ikoniaAgamemnus: reading/understanding is learning20:57
ikoniaAgamemnus: I told you earlier do NOT type that20:57
phunyguyAgamemnus: good.  contact rackspace because you don't have the ability to run that command.20:57
Agamemnusbut WHY?20:57
ikoniaAgamemnus: why do you keep typing it after I've told you 3 times not to20:58
AgamemnusThis server is a dedicated server20:58
AgamemnusI'm on root.20:58
ikoniaAgamemnus: that is a sysv init script, 12.10 does not use sysv - it uses upstart20:58
phunyguyoh lawd.20:58
ikoniaAgamemnus: there should be no "root" account open20:58
Agamemnusgee, you could have at least told me that.20:58
AgamemnusTHANK YOU20:58
DD88435Can anyone help me with setting my default browser in WINE?20:58
phunyguyI believe I said that 10 minutes ago, Agamemnus20:58
AgamemnusI missed it, I guess20:58
easeofuseis there a GNU/Linux equivalent to MyPublicWiFi that is easy to configure and use?20:58
phunyguyAgamemnus: therefore that guide is invalid.20:59
Agamemnusit could be that the previous admin installed 12.1020:59
NickDGEphunyguy, i tried the tuturial you gave me about the screen brightness control issue20:59
Agamemnusor SOMEONE did....20:59
ikoniaAgamemnus: 12.10 what ?20:59
Agamemnusand it wasn't like that in the first place.20:59
phunyguyNickDGE: no luck?20:59
AgamemnusUbuntu 12.10.20:59
ikoniaAgamemnus: what wasn't setup like that ?20:59
AgamemnusThe server.21:00
ikoniaAgamemnus: you told me you are using 12.10 -21:00
AgamemnusYes21:00
phunyguyI'm guessing it was a 12.04 LTS server21:00
kjshkldjfhis the a way to make "ls a*b" also list Afoob and afooB?21:00
SolarisBoyarticle was written before 12.10 arrived it appears.21:00
AgamemnusInitially. It wasn't set up like that initially.21:00
SolarisBoy Last updated on August 31, 201221:00
ikoniaAgamemnus: how do you know that ?21:00
AgamemnusI'm guessing.21:00
NickDGEunfortunately after sudo update-grub it returns a syntax error on line 13 (the line of the actual stuff inserted): Syntax error on line 13; unexpected ")"21:00
ikoniaAgamemnus: how many times have I said "stop guessing/assuming"21:00
phunyguykjshkldjfh: some fancy regexp perhaps21:00
NickDGEi can guarantee i followed it strictly and i inserted the line correctly21:00
ikoniaAgamemnus: it doesn't matter what you think it was, or why, it matters what it is now21:00
phunyguykjshkldjfh: http://www.linuxforu.com/2012/06/beginners-guide-gnu-grep-basics-regular-expressions/21:01
phunyguyNickDGE: no luck?21:01
phunyguyoh missed a line21:01
phunyguyNickDGE: sorry bud, I can't help further.21:01
SolarisBoykjshkldjfh: ls [Aa]*[Bb]21:02
phunyguythere ya go.21:02
Agamemnusit does matter sometimes.21:02
kjshkldjfhphunyguy, SolarisBoy: thank you21:02
SolarisBoyyw21:02
Agamemnusthey are completely unaware21:02
Mondaywhat is the Ubuntu alternative to MyPublicWiFi?21:03
SolarisBoywhats mypublicwifi?21:03
phunyguyAgamemnus: what are you yammering about now?21:03
phunyguywho is completely unaware?21:03
Agamemnusrackspace support.21:03
Mondayhttp://download.cnet.com/MyPublicWiFi/3000-18508_4-75627953.html21:03
phunyguywell what OS does Rackspace support?21:03
renebarbosaMonday, http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/21:03
SolarisBoylol you need to know the contract - they could be totally unaware and in their contract21:04
renebarbosathy this one21:04
SolarisBoythey may not even support your mysql and stuff .21:04
phunyguy!info hostapd | Monday21:04
ubottuMonday: hostapd (source: wpa (1.0-3ubuntu1)): user space IEEE 802.11 AP and IEEE 802.1X/WPA/WPA2/EAP Authenticator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0-3ubuntu1 (raring), package size 420 kB, installed size 1063 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)21:04
Agamemnusthat could be, i am not looking for anyone to blame.21:04
SolarisBoywhat exactly is your aim/problem? isn't your web app working Agamemnus ?21:05
Mondayactually mHotSpot is better http://download.cnet.com/mHotspot/3000-18508_4-75452123.html21:05
phunyguythat doesn't seem like the right package I posted...21:05
SolarisBoyAgamemnus: if you all fired your admin, the least you can do i guess is review the rackspace contract with your friend - that way atleast you will know how far in the hole you are. And i suggest you hire an admin21:06
SolarisBoycheap ones laying all over =)21:06
* SolarisBoy self pointing21:06
phunyguyMonday: http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/21:07
phunyguywas that what you want?21:07
ginjaninjaI have a problem connecting to my WPA network after doing a clean install of 13.04 (xubuntu) . It worked with 12.04 after I fixed it, but I can't remember how i fixed it before . I am on the 3.9.0-030900rc8-generic kernal and I have a wmp54g pci card with a rt2500 driver21:07
phunyguyginjaninja: you didn't answer previous questions21:08
phunyguy3.9 kernel on a fresh install, ginjaninja?21:08
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ginjaninjaphunyguy, downgraDED bc i read that would help21:08
phunyguydowngraded from WHAT? 13.04 comes with 3.821:09
phunyguynot 3.9 or above...21:09
Agamemnusi almost have it.21:09
Agamemnusjust have a path question now...21:09
Agamemnus"sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --init-file=/path/to/filewithsqltoupdatepassword.sql" --> if it is in the same directory, is it just "blah.sql"?21:10
ikoniaNO !!!21:10
ikoniado not do that21:10
phunyguyoh good lord.21:10
Agamemnuswhy?21:10
ginjaninjaphunyguy, oh my fault thought i was downgrading, anyways, i installed the kernel myself21:10
ikoniaAgamemnus: that is not the process....21:10
phunyguyginjaninja: then that is probably your problem.21:11
phunyguyginjaninja: please use a supported kernel.21:11
Agamemnussure it is21:11
ginjaninjaphunyguy,  ok i will do that21:11
ikoniaAgamemnus: you don't even know how if the file path is correct, how can you know that's the right process21:11
Agamemnusat least it was.. in 201021:11
phunyguyAgamemnus: ikonia gave you the clues you need.  You need to start mysql without grant tables, not inject more sql.21:11
calwighow can one make a bootable ISO from several files?21:11
ikoniaAgamemnus: it's not 201021:11
ikoniaAgamemnus: stop guessing at things21:11
Agamemnusgoogle can only give me 201021:12
ikoniaAgamemnus: stop doing this by google21:12
ikoniaAgamemnus: CONTACT rack space21:12
ikoniaAgamemnus: guessing/blindly typing at things is very bad21:12
ikoniaAgamemnus: you need to make sure you fix this AND leave it secure21:12
tgm4883ikonia, +121:12
Agamemnusi don't care about it dude.... i am copying the data and killing the server21:12
ikoniaAgamemnus: then what's the issue, move the data files and dump the server21:13
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histoAgamemnus: sudo service mysql stop    would be the proper way to stop the server21:13
ikoniaAgamemnus: don't waste time with this stuff, move the datafiles and you're done21:13
AgamemnusI need to log in as root to mysql first!21:13
ikoniaAgamemnus: no you don't21:13
ikoniaAgamemnus: the datafiles are on the flat file system21:13
phunyguyhttp://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html21:13
phunyguyjust a heads up./21:13
phunyguyfirst hit on google.21:13
ikoniaAgamemnus: move the datafiles to your new server and dump the server21:13
NickDGEphunyguy, did you say anything about my issue?21:13
Agamemnuseasier to save it in an sql file21:13
ikoniaAgamemnus: no it's not21:14
tgm4883I'm not sure I'd recommend just copying mysql datafiles, but I didn't read all of the backlog21:14
phunyguyNickDGE: I don't know how to fix your issue, sorry bud.21:14
ikoniaAgamemnus: it's 2 commands to move the datafiles21:14
NickDGEthanks anyway, ill search further21:14
Agamemnuswhat are they?21:14
Uslinganyone know any laptop compatibility website/forum? pref intel haswell + ubuntu21:14
ikoniatgm4883: it's certainly better than blindly typing things21:14
ikoniatgm4883: but I do agree21:14
tgm4883ikonia, well I'll agree with that21:14
Agamemnusand would that structure be compatible with centOS?21:14
ikoniaAgamemnus: contact rack space for support - they are your provider, I don't know why you keep stalling this21:14
ikoniaAgamemnus: no21:14
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AgamemnusThen it is not 2 commands.21:14
ikoniaAgamemnus: centos and ubuntu work different in many things21:14
ikoniaAgamemnus: the datafiles however are totally compatible21:14
dtcrshrcan anyone help me install gnome over my ubuntu with kde?21:14
tgm4883is he not able to just reset the root mysql password and use mysqldump?21:15
Guest5498can someone help me out? in c++ if i've overloaded the subscript [] operator how can i use it in a memberfunction in a class? i've this.[] i've tried this->[] but neither work21:15
Agamemnusi am trying to do that!!21:15
dtcrshrIv added the gnome3 ppa, but when trying to apt-get install gnome i got this error - depends gnome-core but wont be installed21:15
ikoniatgm4883: no, because he has no grasp of how to do it and is blindly typing things21:15
ikoniatgm4883: rather than just contact rack space and ask for support/help21:15
tgm4883ikonia, Agamemnus is this a virtual server that he is an admin on?21:15
ikoniatgm4883: they fired their admin21:15
Agamemnusi didn't, he did21:16
ikoniahence rackspace is the next logical choice for their server21:16
tgm4883ikonia, so he doesn't have sudo privs?21:16
ikoniatgm4883: totally yes21:16
phunyguyAgamemnus: are you getting paid to do this, by chance?21:16
ikoniatgm4883: but the idea of no grant tables is being missed,21:16
histodtcrshr: why are you adding the ppa gnome is in the repos21:16
ikoniatgm4883: no idea of how to use init, change the startup etc.21:16
histo!notunity | dtcrshr21:16
ubottudtcrshr: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.21:16
tgm4883ikonia, yea, thats no deal21:16
Guest5498can someone help me out? in c++ if i've overloaded the subscript [] operator how can i use it in a memberfunction in a class? i've tried this.[] i've tried this->[] but neither work21:16
ikoniaGuest5498: try ##c++ channel21:16
Agamemnusi don't need to argue with you..21:17
phunyguyGuest5498: also, I suggest you excercise a bit more patience there.21:17
jefgyI'm using an intel e1000 and while I don't see any issues in syslog or dmesg I seem to be dropping connections regularly on the machines with the e1000(the machines with broadcom nics are fine).    I did a quick search for e1000 issues on 12.04 and didn't immediately see anything.  Does anyone know if there is an issue with the e1000 that I may have overlooked?21:17
phunyguy:)21:17
tgm4883ikonia, if he's hosing the server afterwards, why not just dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-X.X to reset root password and then mysqldump it?21:17
ikoniatgm4883: because from what's said it won't connect21:17
Guest5498agememnus i'm just worried my question will get buried21:18
phunyguytgm4883: I think I tried that at one point, but no dice.21:18
dtcrshrhisto: Iv added because It wasnt working21:18
Guest5498agamemnus21:18
tgm4883ikonia, won't connect? is the mysql db not on this server?21:18
dtcrshrso I added this repo also21:18
dtcrshrill remove it and try again21:18
ikoniatgm4883: yes, and it's running, but once you set the password the "no-password" connect option the dpkg uses at install is removed21:18
Agamemnusyes, c++ ... that's not ubuntu21:18
phunyguyGuest5498: take my advice.  Be patient.  If nobody knows, they won't speak up.21:18
ikoniagive it a try though, by all mean s21:18
histodtcrshr: just follow the instructions from ubottu21:18
* tgm4883 backs away21:19
phunyguytime to go home peeps, cya, ikonia, hold down the fort.21:19
Agamemnusi can't imagine that no one has written a step-by-step guide to resetting the password in Ubuntu 12.10.21:19
phunyguyAgamemnus: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html21:20
AgamemnusGoogle! *shakes fist*21:20
tgm4883Agamemnus, resetting the root mysql password is easy in Ubuntu21:20
phunyguyfirst google hit.21:20
ikoniaAgamemnus: this should not be done with random googles21:20
Agamemnusoh, that?21:20
tgm4883phunyguy, I wouldn't even use that21:20
histo!alis | Guest549821:20
ubottuGuest5498: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*21:20
phunyguytgm4883: but it's a start21:20
ikoniaAgamemnus: it requires knowledge/expeirence to it sane - hence why I keep saying "contact rack space" they have the skills21:20
Agamemnusactually I started using that, but that's not specific to ubuntu21:20
Agamemnusthey don't have to skills21:20
ikoniaAgamemnus: you're no in a position to do this blind21:20
Agamemnusthe*21:20
ikoniaAgamemnus: rackspace DO have the skills21:20
tgm4883phunyguy, well it would work, but if all we're trying to do is reset the root password in mysql there are easier ubuntu ways21:20
phunyguyok bye21:20
phunyguy:)21:21
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dtcrshrthanks anyway HisaoNakai21:22
dtcrshrhisto21:22
tgm4883Agamemnus, resetting the mysql password in Ubuntu is a single command. But from what it sounds like, either A) you messed something up when running blind commands from the internet or B) rackspace has configured their image in a way that makes that not work21:22
tgm4883Agamemnus, in either case, I wouldn't blame Ubuntu for that21:22
HisaoNakaidtcrshr: You're wel- wait what? O_o21:23
Agamemnusaccording to what I've read..21:24
AgamemnusI need to stop mysql21:24
Agamemnusthen run a mysql command with mysqld21:24
ikoniayou are reading BAD information21:24
Agamemnusthen start mysql again21:24
ikoniaI've said this 3 - 4 times21:24
tgm4883Agamemnus, no, it's 1 command21:24
AgamemnusWhat IS the command?21:24
histoAgamemnus: sudo service mysql stop21:24
Agamemnusthat stops mysql.21:24
Agamemnus?21:24
tgm4883Agamemnus, 12.10?21:25
Agamemnusi'll try it.21:25
Agamemnus12.1021:25
tgm4883Agamemnus, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5'21:25
Agamemnus"sudo service mysql stop" resets the password?21:25
ikoniaNO !!!!21:25
Agamemnusdo I need to run that first?21:25
ikoniathis is why you should not be doing this21:25
ikoniaplease, I'm begging you stop,21:25
ikoniayou will end up causing a problem and risk data loss21:26
histoAgamemnus: no it stops mysql21:26
AgamemnusI know it doesn't, but this is what histo just said.21:26
ikoniaAgamemnus: that is NOT what histo just said21:26
Agamemnus"it's one command.... what is the command... <command to stop mysql>"21:26
tgm4883Agamemnus, out of curiosity, how did it come to you to need to do this?21:26
histoomfg21:26
AgamemnusWait, let me actually do it.21:26
AcidRain2012bah. its been so long since i messed with my sFTP server i forgot which one i installed. how do i figure this out? ;)21:26
tgm4883Agamemnus, At least read who is responding to you. the one command is 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5'21:26
histoAcidRain2012: see what is listening on that port21:26
iceroot_AcidRain2012: there is only one sftp server, openssh-server21:26
Agamemnusok.21:27
ikoniaAgamemnus: you are risking data loss typing this stuff blind21:27
ikoniaAgamemnus: please be aware of that21:27
Agamemnusdon't worry, no one is using mysql21:27
AcidRain2012iceroot_, ok. its on port 22. where are the openssh config files? im trying to add another user21:27
delinquentmehow do I figure out which directory in /dev/tty happens to correspond to a given hardware port?21:27
ikoniano, but the data can get destroyed21:27
Agamemnusdead21:27
iceroot_AcidRain2012: the users from ssh/sftp are local system users21:27
ikoniaI'm assuming the data is worth while keeping21:27
AcidRain2012im using mysql :/21:27
AcidRain2012iceroot_, but i have virtual users...21:27
histoAcidRain2012: it's ssh21:27
Agamemnustgm: I typed that in.21:27
tgm4883AcidRain2012, don't worry, this is a single user issue21:27
AcidRain2012users who have access to different parts of the system21:28
Agamemnuswow! Purple!21:28
iceroot_AcidRain2012: you created the mysql-user-stack so you should know how to add users21:28
AcidRain2012iceroot_, good point. i see it now21:28
AcidRain2012thx21:28
AgamemnusUh-oh.21:28
iceroot_AcidRain2012: and remember, when you add a new user, that user is also able to connect with ssh and will get a shell on your system21:29
AgamemnusI guess I changed the initscript.21:29
AgamemnusSo now I have to undo my random monkey typing21:29
BrezmansHey ubuntu wizards. I'm installing ubuntu on a mobo with I217LM network card21:29
AcidRain2012iceroot_, wtf.21:29
ikonia!wtf > AcidRain201221:29
ubottuAcidRain2012, please see my private message21:29
Brezmansand during the installation, ubuntu detects it as a I350 card21:29
swapnil6515hey monkey21:29
iceroot_AcidRain2012: sftp is nothing else then ssh with sftp21:29
iceroot_ftp21:30
Agamemnus"invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found." ..21:30
swapnil6515bla bla bla......21:30
AgamemnusI think I know how to fix it..21:30
swapnil6515ping21:30
swapnil6515!!!!!!!!!!!!21:31
ikoniaswapnil6515: please stop21:31
ikonia!topic | swapnil651521:31
ubottuswapnil6515: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic21:31
ThePendulumGreetings. I have a laptop.21:32
Agamemnuswhat is the correct way to change the initscript?21:34
ikoniawith a text editor21:34
AcidRain2012iceroot_, how do i prevent a user from having shell access?21:34
Agamemnusthe location of the initscript.21:35
AcidRain2012iceroot_, oh, and what ive done is match user login in the sshd.conf21:35
Agamemnusand can it be blank?21:35
Agamemnuswhat's the default initscript?21:35
ikoniaAgamemnus: what ?? defalt initscript ??? what are you talking about21:35
Agamemnusmysql initscript.21:35
ikoniaAgamemnus: I'm begging you - you don' tknow wha tyou are doing, please please please contact rackspace or hire someone21:35
Agamemnuswhen i try changing passwords I get that error21:35
AgamemnusI'm almost there dude21:35
AgamemnusI used that program but it gave me an error21:36
ikoniayou should not need to change the init script21:36
Agamemnus"invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found."21:36
ikoniato use dpkg21:36
ixiowhich package would satify this requirement? : A configured Java Runtime (JRE) environment Version 1.6 or better21:36
ikoniaAgamemnus: right - "not found" as in "not there"21:36
Agamemnusright..21:36
ixio!jre21:36
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.21:36
Agamemnusso I need to change the location to a blank file... right?21:36
ikoniaAgamemnus: no ?????21:36
ikoniaAgamemnus: that will break it more21:36
Agamemnusok, then no.21:36
Agamemnuswell, what's the default file?21:37
ikoniaAgamemnus: the file it's pointing at is listed...it's missing21:37
OerHeksAgamemnus, same error for an hour now21:37
Agamemnusright21:37
ikoniahence the error "not found"21:37
Agamemnusso. Is that the right default location?21:38
ikoniawhat are you talking about - default location21:38
ikoniawhat matters is "that is where it's pointing" - the file is missing21:38
AgamemnusIs that the right location that it should be at?21:38
ikoniathat is the key issue21:38
AgamemnusLet's start with that.21:38
ikonialets not21:38
* tgm4883 sighs21:38
AgamemnusI was under the impression that you can change where to find the initscript.21:38
ikoniaAgamemnus: why would you do that ?21:38
AgamemnusBUT.. assuming you could, is it trying to access the default location?21:39
ikoniaAgamemnus: enough now, you're not listening21:39
ikoniayou're doing random things, not listening and making things worse21:39
AgamemnusI REALIZE IT ISN'T THERE21:39
tgm4883Agamemnus, in order to change where it's looking, I believe you would have to compile upstart21:40
OerHeksAgamemnus, the problem is, not the sytem is trying to get to that location, you are. seems like you have no sufficient rights to do so.21:40
ikoniatgm4883: I think you can do it as a startup option on init...init, but lets be honest, that's not the issue here21:40
tgm4883ikonia, agreed21:40
AgamemnusSo it is the correct default location.21:40
tgm4883Agamemnus, did someone contract you to do this work?21:41
Agamemnusbecause.. I think I might have changed it.21:41
AgamemnusAre you following me here..21:41
tgm4883Agamemnus, 100%21:41
tgm4883Agamemnus, I agree. you broke it21:41
Agamemnusit's a simple yes or no... is it the right location.... if not, then need to change it.21:41
mhdHey guys21:41
AgamemnusSo... it could be the right location, but the file isn't there.. or it is the wrong location, and there is a file.21:42
tgm4883Agamemnus, both?21:42
Agamemnusor both.21:42
Agamemnusdoes anyone know what the default location would be then?21:42
tgm4883Agamemnus, it's both. The default location for upstart would be /etc/init/mysql.conf    There should be a symlink in /etc/init.d/mysql to /lib/init/upstart-job21:43
tgm4883Agamemnus, I'm really starting to think I shouldn't be helping you though21:43
Agamemnuswhy?21:43
Agamemnusworked so far.... so close!21:43
tgm4883well, it's unknown how broken you have made the system. My advice is going to be coming from the standpoint of a non-broken system21:44
ikoniaAgamemnus: NOTHING has worked so far21:44
ikoniaAgamemnus: you are not "so close" you are making things worse21:44
Agamemnusno, i definitely broke it by following an incorrect guide21:44
ikoniaAgamemnus: I've written you a quick process http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6068126/21:44
ikoniaAgamemnus: right, so stop making it worse21:44
ginjaninjaphunyguy, ok I am on the 3.8 kernel now, I tried connecting to my WPA network but it would not connect, next stop?21:44
Agamemnusdead21:44
delinquentme$ ls /dev/tty/*     << all of these folders ... what exactly are they referred to as?  ... would these be "USB" ports?21:44
Agamemnus"sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --init-file= /etc/init/mysql.conf" .. would this be the correct command to change the location?21:44
Agamemnus(without the space at the end)21:45
ikoniaAgamemnus: NO NO !!!!!!!!21:45
tgm4883and.... i'm done21:45
ikoniaAgamemnus: how many times "no"21:45
Agamemnuswell, what's the command to change the location?21:45
tgm4883Agamemnus, I swear, if you ask that one more time I'm going to SSH into your machine and format it21:45
AgamemnusOk21:45
AgamemnusWhat should I be asking?21:45
ikoniaAgamemnus: STOP trying to change the location21:45
ikoniaAgamemnus: the file is MISSING21:45
ikoniaAgamemnus: so changing the location....won't do anything it will still be MISSING21:45
tgm4883Agamemnus, do you have a /etc/init/mysql.conf  ?21:45
Agamemnuslet me check.21:46
Agamemnusputty crashed again, one moment.21:46
tgm4883Agamemnus, putty... please tell me someone isn't paying you to do this21:46
AgamemnusI have a mysql.conf in that location.21:47
ikoniaI don't believe this - I'm out21:47
Obituaryhi you all21:47
tgm4883Agamemnus, shall we see if we are lucky?21:47
Agamemnussure.21:47
schultzaim getting a badsig on a openprinting repos and key21:47
tgm4883Agamemnus, 'sudo ln -s /lib/init/upstart-job /etc/init.d/mysql'21:48
schultzais there a channel for him on this server... i've already done an update on the key, no change21:48
AgamemnusThe file already exists.21:48
AgamemnusFailed to create symbolic link21:48
AgamemnusI... I don't know.21:49
Agamemnuslet me try the password program once more.21:49
tgm4883Agamemnus, /etc/init.d/mysql already exists?21:49
AcidRain2012iceroot_, so pretty much sshd is for people who you trust, and should not be used by anyone who you dont? i dont see how i can allow a group of users to have access to my files without having shell access21:49
ikoniapassword program ???21:49
tgm4883ikonia, I'm guessing he means dpkg-reconfigure21:50
Agamemnusyes, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5"21:50
ginjaninjaI am having problems connecting to my WPA network on 13.04 , I know there is a fix because I had it working before on 12.04 , I formated and installed 13.04 and it no longer works, it recognizes the network (N router) it shows three different SSID's name , name1, and name2.  But it will not finish the connection. I am on the 3.8.0-19-generic kernel21:50
ginjaninjait is a rt2500 chipset21:50
ikoniathis is going to cause more damage in the end21:50
ikoniathis is blindly typing things, on a box that has been blindly modified, but someone who has no idea what they are doing.21:50
Agamemnusyeah, it's still giving an unknown initscript error.21:50
mhdA friend of mine is installing Ubuntu on a new machine. Upon first boot, it apparently hangs on a black screen. In this state he has rebooted a few times, to no avail. I suspect it might be checking the hardware but I am not certain. Any help?21:51
tgm4883Agamemnus, did it let you enter a password?21:51
histoAgamemnus: what do you host on this server?21:51
Agamemnusyes.21:51
AgamemnusI entered it in twice.21:51
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | mhd try this21:51
ubottumhd try this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:51
tgm4883Agamemnus, I wonder if it still took it, but just couldn't restart mysql. Try 'sudo service mysql start'21:51
AgamemnusJob is already running21:52
AgamemnusShould mysql be stopped?21:52
tgm4883Agamemnus, Try 'sudo service mysql restart'21:52
karab44hello21:53
mhd@ubottu  It is a terminal, actually. It has a blinking cursor21:53
mhdNot just black21:53
AgamemnusI don't think the password changed21:53
Agamemnusok.21:53
karab44I have a wacom bluetooth tablet and it's very laggy. Any suggestions how to fix that?21:53
tgm4883Agamemnus, why not?21:53
AgamemnusHow would you check? mysql -p?21:53
histomhd: Try the nomodeset instructions from ubottu21:54
tgm4883Agamemnus, 'mysql -u root -p'21:54
mhd@histo okay21:54
histo!md5sum | mhd If nomodeset doesn't work confirm you iso downloaded properly21:54
ubottumhd If nomodeset doesn't work confirm you iso downloaded properly: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows21:54
schultzanvrmd.. found the fix.. sources.list needed a change from lsb3.1 gutenprint to lsb3.2 main on the openprinting repos21:54
AgamemnusAccess denied.21:55
Agamemnuscould there be more than one initscript?21:55
tgm4883Agamemnus, bummer. Time to contact rackspace21:55
tgm4883Agamemnus, no21:55
AgamemnusWell, just for fun, how do I change the initscript?21:56
tgm4883Agamemnus, you dont21:56
Agamemnusassuiming I want to change it to exactly what it is21:56
ikoniaI suspect someone is trying to make money out of fixing this21:56
ikoniaand has no clue, hence the persistnac21:56
Agamemnusyes, a comedy show.21:56
ikoniaeif there was any real desire to fix it a basic support call to rackspace would have gone in by now21:56
tgm4883Agamemnus, you could check to see why it doesn't think /etc/init.d/mysql exists21:57
Agamemnusyeah, all they do is link you to an old manual.21:57
tgm4883I'm not sure what we think rackspace is going to do about this21:57
tgm4883just because it's hosted on their hardware?21:57
ikoniatgm4883: standard images, restore files, diff against standard stuff to see what's been changed blind etc.21:57
Agamemnuswell, mysql does exist21:58
AgamemnusI see it in the list21:58
Agamemnuscould it be "mysql "?21:58
tgm4883Agamemnus, what broken guide did you follow?21:58
Agamemnusi started with the mysql guide21:58
Agamemnusthen i went to rackspace21:58
histoAgamemnus: why are you trying to reset the password?21:58
Agamemnushisto -- so i can generate an sql file of all the databases21:59
ikoniaAgamemnus: the database you are using - is that owned by root or another user ?21:59
AgamemnusI don't know.22:00
ikoniaAgamemnus: then why are you doing this ?22:00
AgamemnusI think it is owned by root.22:00
ikoniaAgamemnus: this is BASIC stuff22:00
ikoniaAgamemnus: think is not acceptable22:00
Agamemnustgm, "sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --init-file=/xyz.sql" .. is this an old command? why wouldn't this work?22:01
delinquentmeSoo I need to close minicom22:01
delinquentmehow do22:01
histoAgamemnus: http://www.howtoforge.com/reset-forgotten-mysql-root-password22:01
ikoniaAgamemnus: is this the database that is being used by the web application you showed me earlier22:01
ikoniaplease stop linking to random guides !22:01
ikoniathis is why he is in a mess22:01
histoikonia: Well that guide will let him reset the root password for mysql22:01
Agamemnusyes, there are a few databases there22:01
ikoniaAgamemnus: is this the database that is being used by the web application you showed me earlier22:01
ikoniaAgamemnus: ok - so two simple things 1.) the password for the database MUST be in the application config file - look it up there22:01
Agamemnusi know what the password is.22:02
ikoniaAgamemnus: 2.) I suspect it's not connecting as root (terrible security) so you should be able to...22:02
AgamemnusI set it up myself.22:02
ikoniayou know what the password is ???22:02
Agamemnusnot to root22:02
ikoniathen why are you tyring to reset it22:02
ikoniaAgamemnus: you don't need root !!!22:02
Rojodhi22:02
Rojodcan an user on VNC see when you connect?22:02
histoffs22:02
AgamemnusI don't know what other databases there are.22:02
ikoniaAgamemnus: mysqldump -u $user -d database -p > dumpfile.out22:02
Rojod* on vnc server22:02
histoAgamemnus: show databases22:02
ikoniaI asked you "is it owned by root" you said "I think it is"22:02
ikonianow you are saying it's not22:02
Agamemnusi thought root can access all the databases?22:03
ikoniaAgamemnus: get a grip on the information you are providing please.22:03
Rojod(Oh; I know you can see by 'top -u <user>', but are there any other ways?)22:03
Agamemnuslike, you know.... my default.22:03
Agamemnushisto, that is a good idea22:03
histoRojod: what? can you rephrase that?22:03
Agamemnusyou know you can use mysqldump to dump all of it.22:03
histoAgamemnus: yes22:04
AgamemnusEXCEPT IT ASKS FOR A PASSWORD22:04
histoAgamemnus: yeah for the user you specify22:04
ikoniaAgamemnus: what command did you use ?22:04
Agamemnus"mysqldump -uroot -p --all-databases > alldatabases.sql"22:04
ikoniaAgamemnus: so even though I told you not to use root22:04
RojodWell; If I have a user on PC A (VNC server) and I connect to it using PC B (vnc client)... Can the user on PC A see I did connect? (without using 'top -u <user>')22:04
ikoniaand don't use "all databases22:04
ikoniabackup each one to a dump file22:04
Agamemnusdo I need a password for each user?22:05
histoRojod: yes there are numerous ways they could tell someone is connected22:05
AgamemnusI do not know the passwords of all the databases22:05
ikoniaAgamemnus: for a user (any use) that can access it22:05
dicedingusI am trying to install Ubuntu on a new laptop that came with Windows 8. I've disabled UEFI and enabled booting from USB, but when the laptop loads from the USB it hangs at "SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 2012-10-23 Copyright (C) 1994-2012 H Peter Anvin"22:05
AgamemnusI think root can access them all. Am I wrong here?22:05
ikoniaroot can access anything22:05
Rojodhisto, using terminal or not?22:05
dicedingusI have tried both Ubuntu and Ubuntu-GNOME images, and both have the same issue.22:05
Agamemnusright, so that is why I am trying to use root.22:05
histoRojod: yes terminal22:05
histoRojod: there may be a GUI way that i'm unaware of22:06
Rojodhm, ok22:06
gordonjcpAgamemnus: the root user is not the same thing as the MySQL "root" user22:06
histoAgamemnus: Who set up the mysql server on this machine?22:06
Rojodthe user on the PC never use terminal (newbie on Ubuntu), so don't make sense22:06
Agamemnuseither the fired admin or rackserver22:06
histoRojod: Don't use VNC unless you secure it22:07
Rojodsecure as in using with pass?22:07
Agamemnusso, please, don't yell at me..22:07
Rojodor otherwise?22:07
xyz123installed oidentd, but when i get on the irc i have a ~ infront of the username.... how do i get rid of that? i've like googled all the way to hell and there's nothing much based on that question... :)22:07
histo!vnc | Rojod22:07
ubottuRojod: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX22:07
Agamemnus"sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --init-file=/etc/init.d/mysql" would this be ok to set the initfile?22:07
histoAgamemnus: no one is yelling at you.22:07
RojodWell; If I don't forward port, but using it intern... There wouldn't be danger, right?22:08
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histoxyz123: /nick whatever22:08
histoRojod: how are you connecting if the port isn't forwarded?22:08
xyz123histo: why would i change my nick? i have an issue with ident22:09
dicedingusOops, I think my message got lost in the ether. Let me paste it again...22:09
dicedingusI am trying to install Ubuntu on a new laptop that came with Windows 8. I've disabled UEFI and enabled booting from USB, but when the laptop loads from the USB it hangs at "SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 2012-10-23 Copyright (C) 1994-2012 H Peter Anvin"22:09
Mandar722:09
RojodPC  is on same network, so I can connect with 192.168.*.***:port22:09
Rojodso with intern IP ;)22:09
histoAgamemnus: Why are you trying to run that command?22:09
Agamemnusno reason22:10
Agamemnusnone22:10
histoRojod: ahh yes then you are good22:10
Agamemnusdo i need to turn off mysql before running it?22:10
RojodThanks! Thank you very much :)22:10
histoAgamemnus: What do you think that command does?22:10
Agamemnussets the initfile.22:10
ikoniaAgamemnus: is there a reason you are ignoring the information you've been given 20 times - stop trying to change the init file location/set it22:11
Agamemnusyes, there is.22:11
ikoniaAgamemnus: why keep asking for help to ignore the information you keep being given22:12
gordonjcpAgamemnus: what exactly are you trying to do?22:12
Agamemnusbecause "sudo ln -s /lib/init/upstart-job /etc/init.d/mysql" says that the file already exists.22:12
litecoin2mdadm --stop --scan && rm -rf /etc/mdadm22:12
ikoniaAgamemnus: YES, SO WHY CHANGE IT ?22:12
Agamemnusand the password program says it does not.22:12
ikoniaoops22:12
ikoniasorry, didn't mean caps22:12
Agamemnusbecause I think there's a hidden character there that we can't see.22:12
ikoniaAgamemnus: that is the most random thing you've said so far22:12
ikoniaAgamemnus: you have zero reason to think that,22:13
mgriffinis there a place i can find dapper packages?22:13
ginjaninjaI am having problems connecting to my WPA network on 13.04 , I know there is a fix because I had it working before on 12.04 , I formated and installed 13.04 and it no longer works, it recognizes the network (N router) it shows three different SSID's name , name1, and name2.  But it will not finish the connection. I am on the 3.8.0-19-generic kernel22:13
mgriffinhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/ is 404 :(22:13
Agamemnusok, so what other reason would you say that one program thinks it exists, and another thinks it doesn't?22:13
ikoniamgriffin: try oldreleases.ubuntu.com22:13
mgriffinikonia: ty22:13
histoginjaninja: what wifi chipset?22:13
Agamemnusexcept that they are two different files, and one actually has a hidden character.22:13
ginjaninjahisto, rt250022:13
ikoniaAgamemnus: how do you know one has a hidden character ?22:13
Agamemnusi ran it after stoppinf mysql22:14
AgamemnusI don't22:14
mgriffinikonia: old-releases :D22:14
ikonia23:13 < Agamemnus> except that they are two different files, and one actually has a hidden character.22:14
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AgamemnusDo you have any other theory?22:14
ikoniaAgamemnus: stop giving nonsense information, you say on one line - it has a hidden char, I say "how do you know" and you say "I don't"22:14
histoginjaninja: what version of ubuntu?22:14
ikoniaAgamemnus: I could probably work it out, but it's impossible with you as you keep making up random stuff and dont listen22:14
ginjaninjahisto, 13.0422:14
geniimgriffin: Might want to put a hyphen between old and releases in that url.22:15
histoikonia: 10$ he tried to edit the file and there is a ~whatever22:15
AgamemnusMy theory was incorrect22:15
gordonjcpAgamemnus: what *exactly* are you trying to do?22:15
AgamemnusI am trying to change the root password22:15
ikoniaAgamemnus: it's not a theory - it's random things22:15
ikoniaAgamemnus: I've asked you 10 times to stop making things up / random guesses and stick to fact,22:15
AgamemnusOk, then tell me why one says that it exists and the other says that it doesn't.22:15
ikoniait makes it impossible22:15
gordonjcpAgamemnus: okay, so why are you fannying about with /etc/init.d/mysql?22:15
Agamemnusyou're just telling me not to do something.22:15
Agamemnusso what SHOULD I do?22:15
histoAgamemnus: I provided you instructions 30 minutes ago for changing the mysql root passwd.  Even though you don't need to.22:15
schultzahow do i tell what package installed adobe-flash plugin to the firefox.. id want to remove all instances of it.22:15
gordonjcpAgamemnus: change the password, maybe?22:16
gordonjcpAgamemnus: instead of dicking around with irrelevant stuff22:16
Agamemnusguys, I am using this to change the password:22:16
Agamemnus"sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5"22:16
ikoniaAgamemnus: you've already discovered that won't work22:16
AgamemnusBut I get an error saying that "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.22:16
green_geeky_dude<- has gone for coffee and asprin - will bring back supplies for those that need it22:16
IamTryingKernel mode is set to: vga=770 nomodeset but still in Ubuntu Grub screen its frozen22:17
AgamemnusI see that it is there22:17
Agamemnusit is clearly there.22:17
schultzaAgamemnus: what mysql files do you have in /etc/init.d/?22:17
gordonjcpAgamemnus: log into mysql and change the password22:17
Agamemnus._.22:17
gordonjcpAgamemnus: why are you fannying about with dpkg-reconfigure?22:17
ikoniagordonjcp: he doesn't know the password, so needs to start it without grant tables and set a new one22:17
histogordonjcp: I tried telling him that a while ago22:17
ikoniawe've done this dance, maybe 20 times already22:17
schultzaoh yeah...22:17
mgriffinhm, dont see .deb files in old-releases22:17
gordonjcpikonia: oh okay22:17
Agamemnusare you sure that will work, histo?22:17
mgriffini'll keep looking22:18
histoAgamemnus: http://www.howtoforge.com/reset-forgotten-mysql-root-password  Follow this or go elsewhere22:18
Agamemnusthat's for 12.10?22:18
ikoniaI could have set this password in 20 seconds22:18
gordonjcpAgamemnus: irrelevant22:18
Jagst3r15How do I get the latest version of software in Ubuntu?22:18
histo!latest | Jagst3r1522:18
ubottuJagst3r15: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.22:18
dicedingusI am trying to install Ubuntu on a new laptop that came with Windows 8. I've disabled UEFI and enabled booting from USB, but when the laptop loads from the USB it hangs at "SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 2012-10-23 Copyright (C) 1994-2012 H Peter Anvin" Can anyone suggest how to troubleshoot this issue?22:18
gordonjcpAgamemnus: that will work for any version of MySQL right back to long-obsolete version 322:18
gordonjcpdicedingus: have you tried a UEFI install?22:19
histodicedingus: why are you disabling uefi?22:19
Agamemnusa mysqld process already exists22:19
Agamemnusfailure22:19
ikoniayou can't start 222:19
gordonjcpAgamemnus: so, stop mysqld22:19
dicedingusWith UEFI enabled it won't load from the USB at all, even with it set to the top of the boot order.22:19
Jagst3r15will Ubuntu ever switch to rolling release22:19
dicedingusI was under the impression that nothing but Windows would boot with UEFI enabled.22:19
histodicedingus: disable secure boot is all you need to do, and fastboot on some machines22:19
histoJagst3r15: no22:19
gordonjcpdicedingus: no, UEFI is the normal way to boot things now22:20
Agamemnushow do I stop mysqld?22:20
dicedingusLet me check the BIOS for that option. BRB22:20
ikoniaAgamemnus: youve been told 10 times now22:20
ikoniaAgamemnus: why are you not paying attention22:20
Agamemnushuh, i just forgot22:20
ikoniathen you need to start writing things down/paying attention22:20
ikoniathis is starting to get insulting22:20
Agamemnusi'll write it down this time22:20
histoAgamemnus: sudo service mysql stop22:20
Agamemnusi promise22:20
OerHeksAgamemnus, maybe worth taking a look at your rackspace control panel   https://apps.rackspace.com/?cp22:21
Agamemnusok22:21
Agamemnusi think it's tarting22:21
Agamemnusstarting22:21
xyz123can anyone help with with oidentd.... using irssi and the ident keeps returning a ~22:21
xyz123;/22:21
Agamemnusoerheks: i will try that too, thanks22:22
Agamemnusdid it crash already?22:22
Agamemnussigh.22:22
histoxyz123: you realize you are in #ubuntu right?22:22
histoOerHeks: that was the first thing we told him to do hours ago22:22
xyz123yes, im running ubuntu :)22:22
Jagst3r15histo what about this? http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-shuttleworth-and-rolling-releases-7000012503/22:23
histoJagst3r15: yes between lts possibly22:23
OerHekshisto my scroll does not go back that far, thanks :-)22:23
Agamemnusshould it be "sudo service mysql stop" or "mysqld stop"?22:24
Jagst3r15so he is saying that since the LTS is supported for 5 years they may backport more things to it histo?22:24
ikoniamysql22:24
dicedingusgordonjcp histo: I've enabled UEFI, disabled secure boot, and set all USB devices to the top of the boot order. Now when the system boots it says "Diagnosing your PC" and loads into Windows 8 recovery.22:24
histoOerHeks: well let me summarize, several people tell him how to fix it, he ignores all our suggestions, and starts asking random questions trolling further22:24
histodicedingus: are you using a 64bit version of ubuntu22:24
Agamemnushuh, it's just that putty is constantly crashing22:24
mgriffini found what i was looking for in old-releases, it is a bit hard to navigate22:24
mgriffinthanks folks22:24
dicedingushisto: Yes, this is an AMD64 cpu.22:24
Agamemnusand everyone is telling me different things22:25
histodicedingus: I know it's a 64bit cpu but did you download a 64bit iso22:25
OerHeksmgriffin, you could alter your sources with old-version, so navigate would be easy22:25
histoAgamemnus: because you are asking different questions22:25
Agamemnusok, I typed in "sudo service mysql stop", and I see "mysql".22:25
histo!who | Agamemnus22:25
ubottuAgamemnus: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)22:25
AgamemnusWhat should I do now?22:25
dicedingushisto: Yes. Hold on, I think i just figured it out.22:25
histoAgamemnus: Follow the directions you've been provided with22:25
IamTryingGrub menu i edited the kernel line and then F10 to boot, nothing happens...22:25
mgriffinOerHeks: i just expected packages to be separated by release as they are for current releases, and the package name differed22:26
IamTryingGrub menu i edited the kernel line and then F10 to boot, nothing happens... How do i boot?22:26
Agamemnushisto: I typed it all in22:26
mgriffinOerHeks: i needed to install one thing but not really otherwise bother the antique22:26
dicedingushisto: Okay, I managed to boot it using the F12 boot menu I think. Thanks for the pointers, UEFI is new stuff for me. :)22:26
Agamemnushisto: should I wait now?22:26
histoAgamemnus: typed all what in?22:26
AgamemnusI pressed <enter> after the "exit;"22:26
Agamemnushisto: http://www.howtoforge.com/reset-forgotten-mysql-root-password22:27
OerHeksmgriffin, oke, otherwise you will need this > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Requirements22:27
Agamemnusnothing is happening22:27
histoAgamemnus: then you've now reset your password. restart mysql22:27
Agamemnusnow putty crased22:27
mgriffinOerHeks: oh, i found what i needed, sorry if that was unclear22:27
Agamemnuscrashed.22:27
histoAgamemnus: are you being paid for this?22:27
mgriffinreset root password in ubuntu is super easy, just log in with the debian-sys-maintainer account22:27
Agamemnushisto: no.22:27
mgriffin(for mysql)22:27
histoAgamemnus: sudo service mysql restart     and do your stupid backup22:27
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roasted_any of you guys ever use ubuntu with a touch screen laptop? I just fired up a liveUSB of LTS and I can't figure it out.22:28
Agamemnushisto: "stop: Unknown instance:"22:29
histoAgamemnus: when did you get that error?22:29
Agamemnushisto: "sudo service mysql restart"22:29
histoAgamemnus: k22:29
AgamemnusI typed it in once more.22:29
ikoniahisto:  it's because he's started it without the init job - so the pid doesn't match22:29
ikoniait's still running from the skip-grants startup22:29
Agamemnuscrash.22:30
histoyeah22:30
Agamemnuswhat init job?22:30
ikoniaenough, this is a waste of time/pointless22:30
histoAgamemnus: you started the server with mysqld_safe you need to stop that.22:30
Agamemnusok, look histo, I followed your link's instructions22:30
ikoniaAgamemnus: you don' have the basic knowledge to actually do this22:30
Agamemnusikonia: thanks.22:31
ikoniaAgamemnus: hire someone professional, it should take approx 3 minutes22:31
ikoniaAgamemnus: you are going to end up losing your data22:31
Agamemnushisto: how do i stop it? "sudo service mysql stop" ?22:31
AcidRain2012i have the worse news in the world. i just did chmod 775 -R / on accident. how can i fix this?! terminal wont even open :'(22:31
phunyguysudo killall mysqld if you want to stop it.22:32
ikoniaAcidRain2012: can't undo it22:32
AcidRain2012=((((((((((((((22:32
AcidRain2012worse mistake ever. how can i go about fixing it?22:32
ikoniaAcidRain2012: can't undo it22:32
phunyguyAcidRain2012: boot a livecd and grab the data you want, format, reinstall.22:32
bekksAcidRain2012: Reinstall or restore your backup.22:32
AcidRain2012:( for real?!22:32
phunyguyAcidRain2012: next time make backups.22:32
ikoniaAcidRain2012: can't undo it22:32
phunyguy:)22:32
geniiAcidRain2012: Yes, for real.22:32
AcidRain2012fml22:32
histoAgamemnus: kill the mysql pid22:32
Agamemnusok, i typed in22:33
histoAgamemnus: or mysqladmin shutdown22:33
Agamemnushisto: I typed in "sudo killall mysqld"22:33
phunyguyAt this point I am unsure if trolling or serious, Agamemnus22:33
Agamemnusnow can I follow that link?22:33
Agamemnus...22:33
mgriffinAgamemnus: may i make a run at walking you through it? you just want to reset root password for mysql in ubuntu?22:33
histoAgamemnus: I though you already followed it? wtf are you on drugs?22:33
chaotic_goodresize2fs: On-line shrinking not supported22:33
AgamemnusI DID22:34
chaotic_goodok sonoga gun I resize my / -150G22:34
NuSueyanybody know, why are my fans so loud after a new install of 13.10? :p22:34
AgamemnusI told you what happened22:34
chaotic_goodit had 195G free22:34
histoAgamemnus: then you are done now backup your stupid database with the new password you set22:34
chaotic_goodthen resize2fs not work!22:34
NuSueyhave this pc http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c02741889&lang=en&cc=us&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=503534422:34
histoAgamemnus: sudo service start msyql && backup your database22:34
Agamemnusi can't, it didn't work.22:34
AgamemnusI told you.22:34
AgamemnusI'm trying again22:34
chaotic_goodcan someone help?22:34
histoAgamemnus: mysqladmin shutdown22:34
chaotic_goodI am really in the shit here22:34
mgriffinchaotic_good: can't be mounted22:34
histoAgamemnus: sudo service mysql start22:35
histoAgamemnus: backup22:35
ikoniachaotic_good: tone down the language please.22:35
phunyguy!language | chaotic_good22:35
ubottuchaotic_good: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.22:35
chaotic_goodsoory22:35
chaotic_goodits my /22:35
mgriffinchaotic_good: livecd22:35
chaotic_goodI guess I need console to it22:35
phunyguychaotic_good: slow down, ask your question clearly, and one line please.22:35
Agamemnushisto: should I be seeing "mysql" on a single line after doing "mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables " ?22:35
phunyguytoo much chatter in here for 3 line statements.22:35
histoAgamemnus: yes22:35
Agamemnusshould "mysql --user=root mysql" have a semicolon?22:36
histoAgamemnus: But you've said you already ran those commands, so i don't know why you are runnning them again.22:36
mgriffinhisto: why wouldn't you just use the debian account to get in?22:36
ikoniaAgamemnus: why are you running it again ?22:36
ginjaninjahavign problems authenticating on my rt2500 chipset to a wpa network on 13.04 , found this in dmesg ,  2902.032916] wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:22:3f:93:67:dc by local choice (reason=3)22:36
ikoniayou've already run it you said22:36
Agamemnusit kept crashing, it would not finish22:36
chaotic_goodlvresize -L -150G myvolgroup/root22:36
histoikonia: I believe he's a troll now22:36
chaotic_goodsince / had 194G free22:36
schultzalooks like chaotic_good is trying to shrink his reiserfs.22:36
AgamemnusBecause it kept crashing!22:36
chaotic_goodbut the resize2fs didnt work22:36
chaotic_goodext422:36
histoAgamemnus: what crashed?22:37
usuarioiara12fernanda22:37
usuariomaiara12fernanda22:37
phunyguyusuario: I hope that isn't your password....22:37
Agamemnushisto: putting all the commands in, then pressing <enter> just freezes putty.22:37
schultzaoh. chaotic_good, are you running with / as the active system or did you boot to another ? i think you cannot change / while you are using it.22:37
ikoniaAgamemnus: you can't put them on one line22:37
AgamemnusYes, I am pressing enter each time.22:37
usuariomaiara12fernanda22:37
histoAgamemnus: eache command ends with ;22:37
histoAgamemnus: did you get to exit;22:38
Agamemnusshould "mysql --user=root mysql" end with a ";"?22:38
ikoniaAgamemnus: they are sequental, and one runs an sql session22:38
ikoniaAgamemnus: it doesn't say ";" in the web page, so why are you asking22:38
schultzaAgamemnus: no. they're are talking of the commands once you get into mysql.22:38
ikoniaAgamemnus: the web page explains it clearly22:38
AgamemnusJust making sure22:38
histoAgamemnus: the commands on that page are correct. follow them exactly22:38
phunyguyikonia: he is trolling.22:38
NeonSpeedWhat is the fastest or best Torrent client for Ubuntu? Transmission is really slow for me.22:38
AgamemnusI am not trolling22:38
phunyguyikonia: someone can't possibly be this slow.22:38
Agamemnushonest to god22:38
mgriffin:( being ignored is no fun when you have a simple, elegant solution22:38
Agamemnushow do I know if I got into mysql?22:39
mgriffinusing skip-grant-tables in any case is really silly22:39
phunyguyAgamemnus: mysql> should be a hint22:39
phunyguyoh.22:39
Agamemnuslook guys... I am not trolling22:39
phunyguyAgamemnus: mysql> should be a hint22:39
Agamemnusplease stop it22:39
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ikoniaAgamemnus: you've been told the info - 20 times22:39
histoAGoodName: the commands with the ; at the end are entered into a prompt that starts mysql>22:39
Agamemnusall I see is "mysql"22:39
ginjaninjahavign problems authenticating on my rt2500 chipset to a wpa network on 13.04 , found this in dmesg ,  2902.032916] wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:22:3f:93:67:dc by local choice (reason=3)22:39
schultzamgriffin: is there a better way?22:39
usuariomaiara12fernanda22:40
ikoniausuario: can you please stop saying that22:40
phunyguyusuario: can we help you with something? :)22:40
qinikonia: I think he is trying to authenticate to chanserv22:41
mgriffinschultza: cat /etc/mysql/debian.cnf22:41
schultzai would, but i dont have mysql installed. since that problem ive gone to postgres. This is ag's issue.22:42
mgriffinschultza: there is an account that dpkg creates to handle shutdown and startup, it has ALL ON *.* ... WITH GRANT OPTION22:42
mgriffinschultza: use those creds and then simply modify the root account or whatever you want to do22:42
schultzaah, ok.22:42
chaotic_goodoh me oh my22:42
acidrainjust so yall know. "sudo chmod 775 -R /" should be ban from the terminal. that is the windows equivalent to "y | del C:\"22:43
chaotic_goodso if I reduced / 150G with lvm and the resize2fs didnt work am dead in the water?22:43
phunyguy!danger22:43
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!22:43
acidrainoh yes. deffinately do NOT run that command22:43
bekksacidrain: chmod has nothing to do with del.22:44
wallrock91ciao midnightrider22:44
acidrainbekks, might as well. it pretty much did that22:44
acidrainonly difference is it didnt del22:44
bekksacidrain: chmod does not delete  single bit.22:44
phunyguyhey take it to offtopic please.22:44
jribacidrain: this channel is for asking or answering support questions; no need to come in here and give command warnings for no good reason22:44
acidrainjrib, there is a good reason. lol!22:45
jribacidrain: do you have a support question?22:45
mgriffinacidrain: everyone uses $command -R wrong eventually, now you know22:45
phunyguyjrib: he ran that command....22:45
phunyguy:-/22:45
bekksphunyguy: And he was told to reinstall now or to restore his backup.22:45
acidrainjrib, yes. i did run that cmd >_>22:45
mgriffinacidrain: when using -R, put echo at the front until you are sure22:45
jribacidrain: what's your question?22:45
qinacidrain: i do think you can edit your bashrc to prevent some commands...22:46
histoacidrain: it's not the same22:46
histoacidrain: you can still use a livecd and pull whatever user files out you need.22:46
acidrainman thx for all the tips. ill check it out later. im just mad right now. ill see yall in about 2hrs after i get my system functional again. reformatting now22:46
acidrainhisto, yea ive grabbed all my important files22:46
histoacidrain: why did you run that command22:46
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acidraini was trying to do /Server/FTP/wwb/, but i accidently hit enter after i typed "/"22:47
histoacidrain: why are you running it as sudo?22:47
acidrainmy system started loading and making noises. i knew i had messed up right then22:47
acidrainit can be ran as not sudo? :/22:48
histoacidrain: you need to be carefull typing things in like that.22:49
qinone more reason to not use ftp ;)22:49
acidrainqin, it was sftp service. folder was just named ftp. lol22:49
histoacidrain: I would get your files out before you format22:49
acidrainhisto, files are backed up to external drive now22:50
histoacidrain: then no loss. only 10 minutes to reinstall22:50
acidrainugh! burning image now22:50
acidrainhisto, i had so many servers running :'(22:50
phunyguyhisto: unless yo uare on gentoo like me :(.. then it's a 2 week process.22:51
acidrainill have to reconfigure them all. except postfix22:51
histoacidrain: copy out your configs22:51
acidrainpostfix, ices, www, sql. <-- all i got22:51
histoacidrain: and fix there perms22:51
histos/there/their/22:51
LinuxGolds/histo/history/g22:52
acidrainat least now i can freely browse my drive ;p22:52
acidrainlol22:52
yeyemanoh man22:54
wbjohnstonHey, does anyone have the ubuntu 13.04 nexus 7 boot image22:54
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wbjohnstonthe download is down for it, I've got the main image but not the boot image22:55
phunyguy!touch | wbjohnston22:55
ubottuwbjohnston: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch22:55
geniiwbjohnston: #ubuntu-touch please22:55
phunyguyoh thats what I meant22:55
wbjohnstonroger22:55
wbjohnston#ubuntu-touch22:55
wbjohnstonwhoops22:55
themanwithnofacewhen ubuntu starts up i'm getting "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet  or is not present"22:56
yeyemanHello. How I can become Developer for open source systema?22:56
blazemorethemanwithnoface: What Ubuntu version are you using?22:56
themanwithnofaceblazemore: 13.04 raring22:56
blazemore!ot | yeyeman ask in here for discussion about that22:56
chris5000yeyeman: get a degree in computer science and then join the LKML22:56
ubottuyeyeman ask in here for discussion about that: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:56
chris5000do people get voice in this channel for participation?22:57
chris5000as in +v22:57
themanwithnofaceblazemore:  i'm dual booting ubuntu and windows 7 off the same 500 GB hdd.  ubuntu's partition is 190 GB22:57
Naphatulif i update the kernel with update manager will it use that one instead of the one i installed?22:57
yeyemanIs blazemore person but want to be channel bot?22:58
mgriffinyeyeman: blazemore summoned the bot to give you information22:58
yeyemanThank you22:58
johndoesznickserv indentify kali7922:59
mgriffinyeyeman: look up in search engine "google summer of code" you might find a mentor that way for some project you are interested in22:59
mgriffinjohndoesz: haha22:59
blazemoreLiterally nothing can be done about that. Moving on.23:00
chaotic_goodok I need to run resize2fs /dev/volgroupme/root23:01
blazemorethemanwithnoface: Can you please post the contents of your /etc/fstab file to http://paste.ubuntu.com do you know how to do that?23:01
chaotic_goodI did lvresize -L -150G volgroupme/root23:01
chaotic_goodhow can I do this?23:01
chaotic_goodI am going to the data cneter to fix the box23:01
chaotic_gooddo I need a live cd?23:01
blazemorechaotic_good: Yes23:01
themanwithnofaceblazemore:  yes :)23:01
Naphatuli have the 3.10 kernel installed manually, will the update manager set the one it installs as default?23:01
chaotic_goodit seems I wont be able to opearte even in single user form box and modify that filesystem23:01
chaotic_goodwhat is a good livecd touse?23:02
bekkschaotic_good: ubuntu live cd.23:02
blazemorechaotic_good: The same version the server is23:02
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SupaYoshiHeya23:02
SupaYoshidoes anybody know why i cant see samba shares that have valid users = useraccount in it?23:02
blazemoredetails, SupaYoshi23:03
SupaYoshiits very odd, i can see all other shares in network at windows, but not these..23:03
blazemoreUbuntu version, are you looking in nautilus? How can you reproduce the issue?23:03
chaotic_goodok23:03
themanwithnofaceblazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6068350/23:03
chaotic_goodso what I boot and then choose some kinda rescue mode?23:03
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6068351/23:03
blazemorethemanwithnoface: thanks23:03
SupaYoshiOh hey blazemore!23:03
themanwithnofaceblazemore: thank YOU, good sir.23:03
blazemorechaotic_good: What version is the server running?23:04
SupaYoshiUbuntu 12.04, ;) All other shares work just fine ;) except for the last 2 i added in the smb.conf23:04
blazemorethemanwithnoface: Could you please also post the contents of /etc/crypttab23:04
themanwithnofaceblazemore: it's just one line "cryptswap1 /dev/sda6 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256"   also my terminal name looks like this: "new@SA:" btw dunno if that helps...23:06
SupaYoshiblazemore: nevermind got it working ;) was a special character in the config23:07
delinquentmehow do shell script echo for the output of  $ dmesg | minicom23:07
alessio_irc://irc.oltreirc.net/multisala23:08
chris5000delinquentme: dmesg | grep minicom | echo;23:08
chris5000delinquentme: is that what you meant... ?23:08
delinquentmechris5000, tried it .. no bones.23:09
chris5000delinquentme: you can also use a temporary file and refer to that file in your script23:09
designbybeck___Can't figure this out! Flash has been crashing in all browsers on 12.10. I tried to unintsall and reinstall, didn't seem to help, Then I did an upgrade to 13.04, Didn't help, Then Unintstalled Flash and reinstalled it again.... Still crashes! Any ideas?23:09
designbybeck___Ubuntu 13.04 64bit23:09
chris5000delinquentme: dmesg | grep minicom >> dmesg.minicom.output.txt23:09
chris5000and then refer to that txt file. you can later delete it in the same script depending on your goals23:09
travnewmaticlist23:10
delinquentmeyeah I want the output displayed in the same console23:10
chaotic_good12.04 lts23:10
chaotic_goodso once I boot to like recue23:10
l4cr0sscan anyone help me figure out why even after i added a library location to my path the program needing it can't locate the library23:10
chaotic_goodI can just mount the /23:11
chaotic_goodand then run the resize2fs on it rihgt?23:11
chris5000delinquentme: so you want to output to terminal AND use the information for some other purpose in the script? in that case you can pipe to tee. it outputs the information and allows you to also write to a txt file23:11
chris5000dmesg | grep minicom | tee dmesg.minicom.output.txt23:11
chris5000should work23:11
themanwithnofaceblazemore:  is there any other info that may be crucial?  i'm using a dell laptop as well23:13
chaotic_goodin single user mode23:13
chaotic_goodare all of the filesystems unmounted?23:13
chaotic_goodor not?23:13
designbybeck___Does FLASH crash for anyone else?23:13
bekkschaotic_good: Everything unmounted.23:13
chaotic_goodreally?23:14
designbybeck___this is the only ubuntu machine I have problems with23:14
chaotic_goodthen do I need the rescue disk?23:14
bekkschaotic_good: Really. You need a live cd.23:14
designbybeck___my unltrabook and office ubuntu 13.04 have no problems wit FLASH23:14
chaotic_goodby the way why is root mounted as errors remount,ro23:14
chaotic_goodwtf23:14
chaotic_goodread onyl farks me hard23:14
chaotic_goodwhy is online resizing of ext4 not supported????? for /??23:14
bekkschaotic_good: Because your filesystem has encountered errors.23:14
chaotic_goodthis shoulda workd liek a charm23:14
chaotic_goodI online resize ext3 even no problemo23:15
chaotic_goodb423:15
chaotic_goodok bringing live cd23:15
chaotic_good:(23:15
bekkschaotic_good: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24027/how-to-resize-a-ext4-root-partition-at-runtime23:15
chaotic_goodis there any way23:19
chaotic_goodto make the resize2fs work23:19
chaotic_goodthe filesystem has gone read only23:20
chaotic_good:(23:20
chaotic_goodok going to data center with livecd23:22
chaotic_goodso get into rescue mode23:22
chaotic_goodthen do the resize2fs right?23:22
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Jordan_Uchaotic_good: Did you really shrink the logical volume *before* shrinking the filesystem?23:25
chaotic_goodyes23:25
rdw200169chaotic_good: yeah...23:26
Jordan_Uchaotic_good: Do you realize now that that is completely wrong and will lead to filesystem corruption and data loss?23:26
moarcoresGreetings! I have a new computer running Win8, I hate Win8... but my USB 2.0 ports do not work in ubuntu. Gigabyte motherboard, 970A-D3P... I've read the forums and the one suggestion I found did not work, disable iommu.23:26
chaotic_goodhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lvm#Shrink_logical_volume23:26
pinko_I bought a usb audio device, but ubuntu doesn't recognize it, what can I do? I read about some people who bought the same product and had it working right away after connecting23:26
chaotic_goodyep23:26
chaotic_goodbut it worked fine in the past23:26
rdw200169chaotic_good: you really did that *before*!?23:26
Jordan_Uchaotic_good: You may have been very lucky in the past, but I would never *expect* that to work.23:27
chaotic_good/dev/mapper/myvlgroup-myphyvol on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)23:27
rdw200169chaotic_good: Jordan_U: I would have been fired from my current job long ago if I did that and it resulted in data loss!23:27
chaotic_goodyeah maybe I never shark root / before23:27
chaotic_goodyeah23:28
chaotic_goodI might get jacked23:28
chaotic_goodnow23:28
Electronhello23:28
Electron:-)23:28
chaotic_goodanyway jsut boot ubuntu 12.04 64 server lts and then resuce mode?23:28
Electronlike a juice?23:28
chaotic_goodshould get me to promp I need?23:28
MonkeyDust!enter | chaotic_good23:28
ubottuchaotic_good: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!23:28
Jordan_Uchaotic_good: Root filesystem or not, it is not expected to work unless you are lucky enough not to have any data past the point you clobbered.23:28
chaotic_goodoh I have 194G free adn shrunk 150G23:29
chaotic_goodplenty of space23:29
chaotic_goodthe resize2fs just failed23:29
pinko_I bought a usb audio device, but ubuntu doesn't recognize it, what can I do? I read about some people who bought the same product and had it working right away after connecting23:29
blazemorethemanwithnoface: Sorry for the delay. Edit the file as root (with sudo) and comment out that one line by putting a # in front of it23:29
chaotic_goodand that crapp remount ro mount option made it ro23:29
chaotic_goodjacking th ebox23:29
Jordan_Uchaotic_good: Free space can be anywhere in the filesystem, it's not always at the end.23:29
Electronhttps://juju.ubuntu.com/23:29
chaotic_goodok but please I just boot to some kinfa recue mode with the lts 12.04 right?23:30
themanwithnofaceblazemore: which line?  in crytpttab?23:30
chaotic_good?23:30
Jordan_Uchaotic_good: You lobbed off good data, that is the one and only problem here.23:30
Electronlet's goal23:30
chaotic_gooddude no argue23:30
chaotic_goodplease jsut tell me how to get the cd to work as live cd?23:30
chaotic_goodplease23:30
Jordan_Uchaotic_good: OK, now we need to try to recover as much data as possible, and for that I need you to answer some questions.23:30
blazemore!audio | pinko_23:31
ubottupinko_: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.23:31
Jordan_Uchaotic_good: Do you have backups of all of the data on this filesystem? If so, the safest thing is to just restore from backups to a new fileystem.23:31
Electron:-)23:31
Electron47%23:31
blazemore!ot > Electron23:32
ubottuElectron, please see my private message23:32
moarcoresWhy the hell does USB3 work for me but no USB2... what is this wizardry... gigabyte 970a-d3p23:32
moarcoresIn winodws usb2 works but not 3(until i install the driver)23:33
moarcoresI have a feeling it's the BIOS, I have it in legacy mode, iommu is off but that doesn't help23:33
clj_newb_2345I need to set the resolution of my external monitor to somethhing not lsited on teh scren. How can I do this?23:34
blazemoremoarcores: How much RAM do you have?23:35
Electronubottu tell me he don't know memmake23:35
ubottuElectron: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:35
moarcoresblazemore,  2x4GB ddr3 1600 cl823:35
moarcoresI know there's a bug when you have less than 4GB, but that was fixed23:36
blazemoremoarcores: You could try installing the 32-bit version with the pxe kernel23:36
Electronubottu@ubuntu/bot/ubottu23:36
blazemorethats pae not pxe23:37
Electron?23:37
histo!xrandr | clj_newb_234523:37
ubottuclj_newb_2345: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1223:37
Electronati23:37
moarcoresblazemore,  I have a feeling that may work, but I need 64-bit for apps that need more than 4GB, pae is slower too23:37
histo!who | Electron23:37
ubottuElectron: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)23:37
moarcorestoo bad irc does not support parallel channels23:38
Electronthank you histo23:38
histoblazemore: how woudl the 32bit version of ubuntu have anything to do with his USB issues?23:38
blazemoremoarcores: What Ubuntu version are you using?23:38
blazemorehisto: Just Googling around, it affects 64 bit kernels but not 32 bit23:38
histoblazemore: what effects it?23:38
reisiomoarcores: parallel channels?23:38
moarcoresblazemore,  13.04 main23:38
blazemorehisto: His specific motherboard model23:39
histoahh'23:39
blazemoreIt might be a kernel bug I'm trying to find one to see if there's been a fix released in a later kernel he could upgrade to23:39
moarcoresreisio, an irc extension that never caught on supported multiple chat theads, subchannels of sorts23:39
moarcoresblazemore, Thanks man23:39
reisiomoarcores: no entender23:40
Electronit's a red line on screen23:40
moarcoresblazemore, It smells like a kernel bug since USB3 works but not 2, I think AMD had a similar problem with the 800 chipsets and the 900's are nearly identical.23:41
reisiomoarcores: you look at bitlbee at all? :p23:42
moarcoresreisio, Nope, I'll check that out. I'm using xchat which sucks, quassel is the best I currently know of23:43
histomoarcores: weechat23:44
reisioit's not exactly an IRC client so much as a gateway23:44
reisiobut it allows various things, like dumping messages from different locations into one place, etc.23:44
moarcoreshisto,  looks like a minimal quassel with extension support, ugh, yet another irc client to check out lol23:45
energizerI'm trying to set up a USB mic. Can someone help?23:46
moarcoresenergizer,  easy t get the right mic to be used is to disable the ones you don't want23:47
energizerSo I see the box i want in my "Sound settings -- Input"23:49
energizeri click on it, and Sound settings crashes23:49
energizerimmediately23:49
moarcoresenergizer,  what mic and sound card do you use?23:50
energizeri have AT2020 and Presonus audiobox interface23:50
Adam_DymitrukI have an Asus rog laptop g74sx-a. It has an nvidia card in it. How can I enable the screen dimming keys?23:50
energizerwhen i click on the presonus interface in sound settings is when the problem happens23:50
themanwithnofaceblazemore: which line?  in crytpttab?23:51
moarcoresSoo my usb3 works but not usb2, here's a paste of my system http://pastebin.com/U4e77XVX  motherboard is 970a-d3p   Anyone have any ideas? disabling iommc did not work23:52
dicedingusI just set up Ubuntu-Gnome on this laptop, and it's able to connect to unsecured wi-fi networks, but it can't connect to any networks with WPA or WEP. What might be causing that issue? Drivers?23:53
moarcoresdicedingus, have gnome keyring on?23:54
dicedingusmoarcores: How do I check?23:54
moarcoresdicedingus, uhh, well it's a package, and it should auto start, haven't used gnome since they went to 3 lol23:55
Adam_DymitrukAnyone?23:55
themanwithnofaceblazemore: comment out the only line in crypttab?23:55
moarcoresAdam_Dymitruk,  Well if brightness works in software you could make custom key binds to change brightness... i don't know a simpler solution tbh23:56
Adam_DymitrukI could never get them to work...23:56
Adam_DymitrukAnyone with a laptop and the brightness keys work?23:57
Rad-Hey where do I stick a file to be launchable by a name23:57
jribRad-: system-wide or just for your user?23:57
Rad-doesn't matter. single user system  jrib23:57
jribRad-: put it in ~/bin23:57
jribRad-: (if you have to create that directory then you'll need to log in again for it to take effect)23:57
Rad-i tried that. the teacher's instructions say to do that but it just doesn't wokr.. all because he wants us to use new version of netbeans23:57
Rad-i rebooted and it doesn't work jrib23:58
jribRad-: are you using ubuntu?23:58
blazemorethemanwithnoface: Yes and then reboot23:59
blazemoreRad-: What Ubuntu version are you using? What is the output of the command: echo $PATH23:59
Jordan_URad-: Please pastebin the output of "ls -l ~/bin/"23:59

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