[00:00] <OerHeks> MACscr, what is the output of your card in " lspci " ?
[00:00] <ibanezrawker> Gabboz, it happens before i can log in. Its in dual boot mode, but i cant log in to it
[00:01] <Gabboz> ibanezrawker, does ubuntu behave properly if you were to boot it from cd/usb?
[00:01] <lonewulf85> Hello need assistance with My netbook not dimming
[00:01] <abaddon> whiptail, Huh, somehow removed xserver-xorg....
[00:01] <MACscr> OerHeks: InfiniBand [0c06]: Mellanox Technologies MT26418 [ConnectX VPI PCIe 2.0 5GT/s - IB DDR / 10GigE] [15b3:6732] (rev a0)
[00:01] <abaddon> whiptail, oops
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> !details } lonewulf85
[00:01] <wilee-nilee>  !details | lonewulf85
[00:02] <ibanezrawker> Gabboz, i have not tried that yet. What difference would that make?
[00:02] <Gabboz> ibanezrawker, it will determine whether your HDD install is corrupt.  If it happens with a live boot then it might be a video compatibility issue.
[00:02] <techkid6> Apparently.. FIrefox doesn't even print the dates
[00:02] <whiptail> abaddon, the instructions shouldnt mess you up, but it does remove alot of things
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, Ubuntu release, desktop, computer and hardware go along way.
[00:03] <techkid6> Meaning I only have to edit the one DOM Element in there which has the date-accessed and I am set
[00:03] <lonewulf85> I have ubuntu 12.04 x64 lts when I use my hardware control it dims it by maybe 20%
[00:03] <abaddon> whiptail,  Noo, when I purged fglrx. XD
[00:03] <techkid6> thanks for all the help
[00:03] <ibanezrawker> Gabboz, Ok, then how do i take it off of my computer if it is corrupt?
[00:03] <MACscr> ah, nevermind, it seems the install script actually even mentions ubuntu in it. I thought the install script i found was a third party, but this is the one made by mellanox
[00:03] <lonewulf85> My PC is an acer aspire one AO722
[00:03] <whiptail> abaddon, phew :]
[00:04] <abaddon> whiptail,  Yeesh I get too triger happy with removing stuff
[00:04] <Gabboz> ibanezrawker, one step at a time.. go try my suggestion
[00:05] <dougiel> I installed 13.04 on sda then I added a harddrive and install win7 on sdb (sdb1) then I installed 13.04 on sdb5 I let the installer adjust partition table/size and now I want to install grub on sdb but I keep getting "source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory" can someone clear up what I am missing?
[00:05] <ibanezrawker> Ok Gabboz, ill try it. I'll be back in a few.
[00:06] <abaddon> whiptail, thanks again =]
[00:06] <dr_willis> dougiel:  so you have 2 installs of 13.04  on the same system?
[00:07] <dr_willis> dougiel:  and how are you trying to reinstall grub exactly?
[00:07] <dougiel> dr_willis, YES for now but I am gonna delete the first one
[00:07] <eciv> is there a way to do rpm -ql <package> on ubuntu? it lists which files were installed where by package
[00:07] <dougiel> sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[00:08] <dr_willis> dougiel:  id try the boot-repair tool and you may need to give grub-install some extra options like the error message said
[00:08] <dr_willis> dougiel:  you are running that from the 2nd (newer install) ?
[00:08] <chaotic_good> deadline scheduler disk io  boon OR BAIN>?
[00:08] <aracnido> hola
[00:08] <dougiel> I am gonna reformat sda and use sdb (one is 5400 and new one is 7200) yes from newer install
[00:09] <OerHeks> MACscr, good luck, a quick search did not get me usefull info.
[00:09] <dr_willis> chaotic_good:  you mean 'bane' ? and i imagine it depends on your ussage of the pc.
[00:09] <chaotic_good> oops
[00:09] <chaotic_good> was in mitt romney mode again
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> dougiel, You might just use supergrub to boot to it and fix it from the desktop
[00:09] <chaotic_good> lots of mysql types say deadline disk io scheduler is better m0ar
[00:09] <TeamRocket1233c> I think n00b is more offensive than newbie, IMO.
[00:09] <dougiel> wilee-nilee, i CAN boot both installs... everything works
[00:10] <dougiel> but I need to format the 5400rpm and re-appropriate it
[00:10] <dougiel> but that is from the first install
[00:10] <dougiel> of grub
[00:10] <moderator> hola
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> dougiel, That install being run from the dsb install as dr_willis asked?
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> sdb*
[00:11] <ibanezrawker> Gabboz, i cant find the wubi file on Windows.
[00:12] <Gabboz> ibanezrawker, did the live distro boot without issue or not? let's leave wubi out of this(since you never mentioned it).....
[00:12] <dougiel> wilee-nilee, the one I am in now is running from sdb5 install
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> dougiel, That a gpt formatted drive perchance, or at one time?
[00:13] <ibanezrawker> Gabboz, i used wubi to try to get Ubuntu. The live distro didnt work either.
[00:13] <Gabboz> ibanezrawker, then you have other problems to conquer first.
[00:14] <dougiel> gpt=? sda was win7 when I bought the notebook and sdb was brandnew then windows'd then 13.04'd
[00:14] <dr_willis> dougiel:  tried a sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc yet?
[00:14] <reisio> dougiel: a way a drive can be partitioned
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> ibanezrawker, The wubi install would be in the add remove of windows control if you need to remove it.
[00:15] <dougiel> dr_willis, not yet lookd at all the google results and came crying in here to you guys
[00:15] <dougiel> reisio, gparted?
[00:15] <ibanezrawker> Gabboz, ok
[00:16] <reisio> dougiel: is a GUI fronted to parted, a partitioning app
[00:16] <dougiel> reisio, thanks... brb
[00:21] <SupaYoshi> hey guys
[00:21] <reisio> hey supa
[00:21] <SupaYoshi> Im having some trouble mounting a NTFS partition in Ubuntu 12.04 server
[00:21] <reisio> SupaYoshi: what kind of trouble
[00:21] <SupaYoshi> Its a 3TB drive, and i can mount it just fine on an older Ubuntu Desktop version downstairs
[00:21] <SupaYoshi> from console.
[00:22] <SupaYoshi> Ive read through Google, and it seems that people had it also, but i get the following message:
[00:22] <SupaYoshi> NTFS signature is missing. | Failed to mount '/dev/sdb1': Invalid argument |The device '/dev/sdb1' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[00:22] <SupaYoshi> Which is not true ;)
[00:22] <dr_willis> SupaYoshi:  check 'sudo blkid' to make sure you are using the right device
[00:23] <dr_willis> SupaYoshi:  also its not a truecrypt or any other soort of fancy partion is it?
[00:23] <delinquentme> soooo if I have a user on a linux box ... but no corresponding file in /home/
[00:23] <delinquentme> was that user created incorrectly?
[00:23] <SupaYoshi> it aint listed there?
[00:23] <SupaYoshi> nah nothign fancy
[00:23] <tgm4883> delinquentme, maybe their home is elsewhere
[00:23] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  thers special users that dont have a home. some services
[00:23] <dr_willis> SupaYoshi:  could be its on a differnt /dev/XXX location
[00:23] <tgm4883> delinquentme, how did you create the user?
[00:23] <SupaYoshi> mhm, yeah
[00:24] <SupaYoshi> i can see all the partitions on the first drive though wiht that
[00:24] <delinquentme> oic!
[00:24] <SupaYoshi> fdisk -l shows me its the correct one.
[00:24] <dr_willis> SupaYoshi:  this is an external usb hd?
[00:24] <SupaYoshi> It used to be, it is now in my HP Microserver
[00:24] <SupaYoshi> 3 TB Western Digital drive ;P
[00:24] <dr_willis> so its now on the sata or ide port?
[00:24] <SupaYoshi> Its now just connected to sata
[00:25] <SupaYoshi> shows up at fdisk -l as a sdb1 drive
[00:25] <dr_willis> that would be weird that sudo bllkid is not showing it
[00:25] <SupaYoshi> hehe yeah,
[00:25] <dr_willis> unless it really is a currupted r somewhat messed up filesystem
[00:25] <SupaYoshi> nahh i just formatted it, cus i thought it was
[00:25] <SupaYoshi> on windows its all fine btw
[00:25] <SupaYoshi> I backuped the files, and formatted it
[00:25] <SupaYoshi> its pretty new, not old at all
[00:25] <dr_willis> on windows - i would have windows  filesystem check the drive
[00:26] <SupaYoshi> mhm.
[00:26] <dr_willis> whats the exact mounting command you are using?
[00:26] <SupaYoshi> well i tried a few
[00:26] <SupaYoshi> . /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk1/ ntfs-3g default 0 0
[00:27] <SupaYoshi> this one works downstairs with the older ubuntu :)
[00:27] <napsc> ntfsfix
[00:27] <dr_willis> well assumeing the device is correct. then the error message indicatged that somthing is weird with the filesystem
[00:28] <dr_willis> if theres data on the drive. i would have windows check the disk
[00:28] <SupaYoshi> mh mmhm mhm
[00:28] <SupaYoshi> ntfsfix says volume is corrupt
[00:29] <SupaYoshi> Im going to dlete the partition with diskpart
[00:29] <SupaYoshi> and recreate it
[00:29] <SupaYoshi> see what happens
[00:29] <SupaYoshi> brb
[00:29] <reisio> :/
[00:29] <FloodBot1> SupaYoshi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <reisio> is there data on it that you want?
[00:29] <SupaYoshi> sorry bout that, habbit. data is backed up alraedy
[00:29] <reisio> ah, then yeah just remake it
[00:29] <SupaYoshi> :3 thnx
[00:29] <reisio> preferably not as an FS designed only for an OS you don't use
[00:33] <SupaYoshi> cleaning disk
[00:33] <SupaYoshi> im starting to hate NTFS but im better with it then ext4 especially since I can connect this to Wiundows so
[00:34] <duoi> SupaYoshi: youre able to mount ext4 on Windows
[00:34] <SupaYoshi> really? easy?
[00:35] <dr_willis> i wouldent trust windows accessing ext* drives a lot. ;) but for quick access.. (read only) it should be ok.
[00:37] <jastorm> HOLA
[00:37] <reisio> shalom
[00:39] <SupaYoshi> mhm thats odd...
[00:39] <SupaYoshi> the disk is divided in2 parts
[00:40] <SupaYoshi> 700 GB and 2000 GB ....
[00:40] <SupaYoshi> And I cannot make it 1 disk ? lol
[00:40] <Ludovik> This might seem like a silly sort of question but I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations for a really minimalist Windows Classic sort of desktop manager. I'm just using Gnome 3 and its bloaty as hell and I can't seem to get rid of the obnoxious right hand panel.
[00:40] <SupaYoshi> sorry for spamming... sorry guys, i was just kinda excited. sorry for that..
[00:40] <ianorlin> lxde?
[00:40] <reisio> SupaYoshi: is it in a laptop?
[00:40] <reisio> SupaYoshi: or an external enclosure?
[00:40] <SupaYoshi> reisio, no a pc. external nclosure yes,
[00:41] <reisio> Ludovik: LXDE or Xfce, yup
[00:41] <SupaYoshi> I am just going to try formatting it with gparted :P
[00:41] <SupaYoshi> brb...
[00:41] <Ludovik> I'm going to take a look and see if I can figure out how to install them.
[00:41] <reisio> SupaYoshi: 700+2000 is odd, but multiple disks pretending to be one isn't entirely out of the question for an enclosure, particularly an old one
[00:41] <SupaYoshi> its pretty new...
[00:41] <SupaYoshi> 2013
[00:41] <reisio> Ludovik: lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[00:42] <reisio> Ludovik: by default Xubuntu is configured to look more like Mac OS, though, but that's easily changed
[00:42] <reisio> SupaYoshi: 2013? That's old! :p
[00:44] <Ludovik> So I can just install Lubuntu from my Gnome session and then login to that desktop manager?
[00:44] <reisio> and there's an old Xfce/GTK+2 window theme out there called 'redmond', I believe
[00:44] <MACscr> im running a newer kernel on ubuntu 12.04 than what is normally available, how can I temporarily downgrade the kernel so that i can hopefully get this compile to work?
[00:44] <reisio> Ludovik: yes
[00:44] <reisio> Ludovik: if you decide you prefer one you might want to remove some of the GNOME/Unity stuff afterwards
[00:45] <Ludovik> I find it's hard to remove software since most of the weight comes from the dependencies and full remove doesn't seem to remove them.
[00:45] <reisio> it can be, but this is a common task that people know about :)
[00:45] <ianorlin> apt-get autoremove can remove unnescary dependacies
[00:45] <reisio> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[00:46] <Ludovik> Man, you guys are awesome.
[00:46] <ianorlin> isn't there also a lubuntu one of that?
[00:46] <reisio> yeah there is
[00:46] <Ludovik> Downloading Lubuntu now.
[00:47] <ianorlin> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu
[00:48] <reisio> Ludovik: you can just install it, it's just a set of packages
[00:56] <yugandhar> Hi Guys, What is the irc chat for Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud?
[01:00] <vantage> Hi, is there an easy way to share a desktop between two ubuntu machines that are both behind routers?
[01:01] <SupaYoshi> yay
[01:01] <delinquentme> vantage, you just need port forwarding and some remote desktop tool
[01:01] <SupaYoshi> formatting with gpt and 3 tb partittion with gparted did the trick
[01:01] <SupaYoshi> its mounted and well ;) yay
[01:01] <vantage> delinquentme: Anyway to do it without port forwarding?
[01:01] <duoi> Vantage: have you tried teamviewer or some other remote desktop tool?
[01:01] <reisio> vantage: share?
[01:01] <reisio> synergy could work
[01:02] <vantage> I'm trying to help my mom with her ubuntu machine, but can't without seeing her desktop. Setting up port forwarding on her end would be even more difficult. Any suggestions on the easiest way to do this?
[01:04] <Johnny_Linux> phone
[01:04] <chris____> hey guys
[01:05] <ryan_turner|MTW> Hi, can anyone help me troubleshoot getting touchscreen to work on a Lenovo IdeaPad Z400?
[01:06] <whiptail> vantage, maybe chrome remote desktop
[01:07] <vantage> hrmm synergy requires port forwarding.. Looking at chrome remote desktop now
[01:08] <ryan_turner|MTW> Ok, touchscreen now magically works, but I can't "click" anything
[01:08] <ryan_turner|MTW> I can move the cursor around
[01:08] <ryan_turner|MTW> but no clicks
[01:08] <ryan_turner|MTW> how do I customize touchscreen behavior?
[01:11] <OerHeks> ryan_turner|MTW, you might have this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/1180881
[01:12] <ryan_turner|MTW> OerHeks yeah, took about 4 cycles
[01:12] <ryan_turner|MTW> but now Im able to at least move the cursor
[01:12] <ryan_turner|MTW> just dont know how to click :P
[01:12] <MACscr> whats the current kernel for LTS?
[01:13] <acu2> hello guys - I have a computer which gets internet through USB, I want to make that computer push the data through Network Card such that I connect it to the internet port of my router - that way any computer connected to router will have access through internet, can anyone tell me how to do that ?
[01:13] <ryan_turner|MTW> Oh hey! Multitouch gestures work!
[01:14] <ryan_turner|MTW> 3 finger touch, 4 finger touch
[01:15] <ryan_turner|MTW> still cant figure out how to get the touch screen to "right click" the cursor lol
[01:15] <ryan_turner|MTW> err I mean "left click" *
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> acu2, Th?e usb wireless
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> the*
[01:15] <james__> French Bread Pizza Rules!!!!!! Who Is With Me!!!??????
[01:16] <acu2> wilee-nilee, yes
[01:16] <james__> French Bread Pizza Rules!!!!!! Who Is With Me!!!??????
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> acu2, And who's is it?
[01:16] <acu2> it is t-mobile hot-spot zet
[01:16] <acu2> zte
[01:19] <zinkeldonk> bot invite
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> acu2, who's wifi is it are you privy to it?
[01:19] <dr_willis> !isc | acu3
[01:19] <dr_willis> !isc
[01:19] <whiptail> acu2,create a wireless bridge if you can
[01:19] <dr_willis> !ics
[01:20] <dr_willis> router  wan port plugged into the pc. and set up ics and dhcp on the pc
[01:21] <acu2> dr_willis, what is ics ?
[01:22] <dr_willis> see what ubottu  said
[01:22] <dr_willis> internet connection shareing
[01:22] <daftykins> -e
[01:33] <Celso_> hey people, will Radeon dynamic power management support support my ati card hd5000 series on the open source driver?
[01:33] <Celso_> on the kernel 3.11?
[01:36] <Johnny_Linux> Celso_,   http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_dpm_mix&num=1
[01:36] <Johnny_Linux> that simple to find
[01:39] <Celso_> Johnny_Linux Well, i am using ati hd 5470 but dont mention my card. is there any website that curently shows all supported cards, or some release notes from amd?
[01:39] <Johnny_Linux> its not up to date afaik
[01:40] <Johnny_Linux> im using hd3000 series, works excellent
[01:40] <Celso_> cool
[01:40] <Celso_> i need to investigate more
[01:41] <Celso_> thanks for the help
[01:41] <Johnny_Linux> np
[01:41] <Celso_> and effort
[01:42] <Celso_> by the way, is the FPS and gaming the same as the proprietary driver?
[01:42] <Johnny_Linux> not sure
[01:42] <Johnny_Linux> i dont game
[01:42] <Johnny_Linux> but, i get 70 fps anywy
[01:42] <Celso_> oh ok thanks :D
[01:43] <DeWitt_7> testing....
[01:44] <TheLordOfTime> DeWitt_7, test failed.
[01:44] <TheLordOfTime> !test > DeWitt_7
[01:45] <DeWitt_7> Sorry, kind of a newb.  The last channel I was in wouldn't post.  Don't hate me.
[01:46] <MACscr> i want to load a different kernel at boot, i currently have 3 installed. How the heck am i supposed to know what kernel is what number so i can set it in /etc/default/grub?
[01:47] <reisio> MACscr: the files are likely versioned
[01:47] <reisio> MACscr: in /boot/
[01:47] <MACscr> right, you just set them as 0,1, or 2, etc, right?
[01:48] <reisio> MACscr: hrmm?
[01:49] <MACscr> in default/grub, you pick the kernel by a number like i just mentioned
[01:49] <MACscr> not the actual kernel name or version
[01:49] <Ari-Yang> yes
[01:49] <MACscr> so again, how do i know what kernel is what number?
[01:50] <Ari-Yang> if you have 3 current kernels and want to go back to lets say your previous, set it to 1
[01:50] <Ari-Yang> 0 is your latest
[01:50] <Ari-Yang> 1 is the one before that, and so on
[01:50] <MACscr> ok
[01:50] <MACscr> so its always that order no matter when they were installed?
[01:51] <Ari-Yang> MACscr, type this in terminal: gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[01:51] <Ari-Yang> MACscr, it has all kernel versions
[01:52] <Ari-Yang> the first version you see is equal to 0
[01:52] <Ari-Yang> the one followed by that is 1
[01:52] <Ari-Yang> and so on
[01:52] <Ari-Yang> I think you can also check out the list of kernels by looking at the GRUB menu on boot
[01:53] <MACscr> its a reboot server, so i dont have the luxury of a boot menu. Ok, so i just need to read the poorly setup grub.cfg and count my entries until i get the right one?
[01:54] <MACscr> man, i miss the old grub where everything was in a simple file with only a few entries
[01:54] <Ari-Yang> MACscr, I guess....
[01:55] <Ari-Yang> MACscr, lets say you have 3 kernels, your first one you ever installed is 3.1, then 3.2, and then 3.3.... So then in the grub file, 0 is equal to your latest, 3.3
[01:55] <MACscr> was entry 4
[01:55] <Ari-Yang> if you want to boot kernel 3.1 you'd set it to 2
[01:55] <Ari-Yang> get it?
[01:56] <MACscr> i don think thats right, you have take recovery kernels into place as well
[01:56] <Ari-Yang> afaik, no
[01:56] <Ari-Yang> :|
[01:56] <MACscr> my entry appeared to be 4, for kernel 3.2
[01:56] <MACscr> i was running 3.8 and 3.5 was installed before that
[01:56] <MACscr> 3.2 didnt exist until i just installed it
[01:57] <Ari-Yang> I read this somewhere, same info I gave to you I told someone else and they were successful
[01:57] <Ari-Yang> nothing about recovery kernels
[01:57] <Ari-Yang> *shrugs*
[01:57] <Ari-Yang> experiment, gl
[01:57] <MACscr> i dont understand why they felt the need to overcomplicate things
[01:58] <MACscr> grr, forgot i need to run sudo update-grub in addition to that change
[02:00] <MACscr> interesting, looks like you can actually do: GRUB_DEFAULT="Previous Linux versions>Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-18-generic"
[02:04] <Celso_> well, guys, i want to install the 3.11 kernel, and idont know wich file i should install on this website (  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/  )  Can someone tell me wich ones should i download?
[02:05] <reisio> Celso_: why do you want to install it?
[02:06] <Celso_> reisio , to make use of the new open source driver from amd.  i have an ati hd5470 and would like to use only the open source driver.
[02:07] <reisio> Celso_: amd64 ones should do
[02:08] <Celso_> only those 2? nothing more?
[02:08] <Ari-Yang> Celso_, are you running on 64bit?
[02:08] <Celso_> yes
[02:08] <Levi__> ok so does anybody have a question i can answer
[02:08] <ianorlin> !ask
[02:08] <Celso_> lubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[02:09] <Ari-Yang> Celso_, you'd get the amd64 then
[02:09] <Ari-Yang> technically all you need is the image amd64
[02:09] <Celso_> thanks guys
[02:09] <Ari-Yang> but I recommend get both headers and headers all
[02:09] <Ari-Yang> and ofc the image
[02:09] <Ari-Yang> Celso_, you installing this for DPM?
[02:09] <Celso_> yep
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> Celso_, if you are I recommend http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/2013-09-04-saucy/
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> instead
[02:10] <Celso_> why?
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> I think it's up-to-date
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> like latest changes for the better is put in that directory
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> that's what I got, though I don't have the one they released today (the one I linked)
[02:11] <Ari-Yang> Celso_, I recommend you grab the one I link :T
[02:11] <Ari-Yang> afk, Celso_ let me know how it works out, highlight me (pm me in case I'm still afk)
[02:11] <Celso_> Ari-Yang well, they only have 40 min of diference.
[02:12] <Celso_> Ari-Yang ok ok
[02:12] <Celso_> by the way, how do i pm you? sory but i am kind of a noob :P
[02:13] <Celso_> And thanks reisio!
[02:14] <Chucho> Hola
[02:14] <reisio> shalom
[02:14] <Chucho> Alguien me podria ayudar para instalar ubuntu? tengo una duda
[02:14] <nerdtron> does anybody know why XChat closes itself after a few minutes it is minimized in the system tray?
[02:14] <whiptail> it doesnt normally
[02:14] <Levi__> Hello
[02:14] <nerdtron> i mean i closed the window, it is in the system tray and is very easy to bring up, but after 30 mins or so, it the program will completely close
[02:15] <sudormrf> Hey all... I am trying to install ubuntu on an HP Envy x2 -- anyone have experience with this?
[02:15] <Chucho> Anybody can help me, i want to install ubuntu in my pc, byt i dont speak good english, thnx.
[02:15] <Levi__> I dont but i could help you through it
[02:15] <reisio> sudormrf: you?
[02:15] <nerdtron> Chucho, what is your problem?
[02:15] <MACscr> Ari-Yang: yep, it worked by just specifying the actual kernel as i mentioned. Sweet.
[02:16] <Chucho> nerdtron can u talk with my in private?
[02:16] <reisio> Chucho: #ubuntu-es ?
[02:16] <ianorlin> !pm
[02:16] <Chucho> oh thanks reisio
[02:16] <Chucho> im new on this sorry
[02:17] <reisio> Chucho: you should be sorry! People who are new to things make me sick! :p
[02:17] <whiptail> Chucho, how far have you got?
[02:18] <Anon-749270> I'm back, on my phone. Ubuntu 13.04 with rtl8111/8168 rev 06 Ethernet on my motherboard not working. Ready to try any commands and troubleshoot. :)
[02:19] <Hodapp> is there some reason that on this Ubuntu 13.04 installation I just did, 'hostname' is not reflecting what is in /etc/hostname?
[02:19] <nerdtron> Hodapp, edit the /etc/hostname
[02:19] <nerdtron> Hodapp, sudo service hostname restart then log out and log back in
[02:20] <Hodapp> Unknown job: hostname
[02:21] <nerdtron> Hodapp, that's ok, log out and log in again
[02:21] <Hodapp> nerdtron: I've tried this already, and it's still reporting localhost.
[02:22] <nerdtron> what is your /etc/hostname? and also edit the /etc/hosts
[02:22] <Hodapp> /etc/hostname just has the hostname in it.
[02:23] <nerdtron> Hodapp, /etc/hosts the line 127.0.1.1	"hostname"
[02:23] <Hodapp> and I've edited /etc/hosts to contain another line associating the same with 127.0.1.1 - as some other guides suggested.
[02:23] <nerdtron> you should also change it
[02:24] <Hodapp> last I checked, though, /etc/hosts is irrelevant to what 'hostname' reports.
[02:25] <Hodapp> I can run 'hostname blah' and then it updates it, however, in such a manner that it's reset upon reboot.
[02:26] <sudormrf> reisio, besides me. :-p
[02:33] <Anon-749270> I'm running into a bug that's over 5 years old -- poor support for Realtek Ethernet. Rtl8111/8168. It's built into my gigabyte motherboard. Most seem to have sporadic issues, but for me it's just always off in Ubuntu 13.04. I think it works in centos 6 and mint 11.
[02:37] <xmetal> either i am lagging here or it's quiet in here
[02:38] <taihsiang> Anon-749270, have you ever tried 8168 dkms?? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+package/r8168-dkms
[02:38] <LinuxGold> deadly quiet
[02:38] <Cryptorchild> nope you're lag :v
[02:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> Heyo. Putting together a multi-iso boot usb with grub2, have some kinks to work out. I installed grub to it, configured menuentries for a few isos, popped it into my laptop that needs boot repair (botched arch install), and it drops to a grub rescue prompt, complaining about it cant find a disc with a certain uuid (/dev/sda1 on this machine, where I made the usb; not the uuid of the usb device). Bit of reasearc into the contents of th
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> hmmm... sounds like you need to restart and set the uuid of the disc to the one that you will be using
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> or, perhaps you could check fstab?
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> then again, idk anything about making the usb you are talking about. ;)
[02:45] <xmetal> hmm arch? .. now people have me curious about that distro, lol
[02:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> AcidRain2012: afaik the usb has no fstab; and I modified that file to set the uuid to match the fat32 partitions.
[02:45] <bazzer> i'm trying to boot an ubuntu live cd over the network...my pxe server is working fine as i can do an automated preseed install but as far as the live cd it hangs trying to get a dhcp address during the boot process....any ideas?
[02:45] <xmetal> may try it in vm when i get a chance
[02:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> xmetal: its not for the faint of heart, or those afraid of the terminal ;)
[02:47] <legend123> HI there. Is there a way to record audio cd to a file in terminal?
[02:47] <xmetal> oh heck, the terminal is not an issue for me ... the reason some other (will not name them, since that is OT) distros are a pain is the 100 dependencies they need
[02:47] <xmetal> lol
[02:47] <xmetal> anyone bbl
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> ntzrmtthihu777, oh my bad. i thought you were saying when you remove the usb, and boot the machine with the installed OS, it complained about not being able to find the uuid of the drive on another machine (a drive not in the machine the OS was installed on)
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> legend123: yep. mount the iso, then you can use mplayer or sommat.
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> legend123: erm, not iso, but you get the idea. unless you're trying to copy the cd to iso, then a quick dd will do you wonders ;)
[02:49] <AcidRain2012> ya sry man. i never could get a usb to boot a 'live cd'
[02:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> AcidRain2012: not all that hard once you get the principles down.
[02:50] <AcidRain2012> perhaps ill try it one day again. as for me. i want every users first experience with ubuntu+cinnamon to be great. i cant risk it with a usb
[02:50] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:51] <Siecje> I changed the motherboard in my computer and it wont start
[02:51] <Siecje> won't turn on
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> Siecje, #hardware
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> ##hardware actually
[02:53] <abaddon> OK, I've been trying to install the proprietary ATI drivers from the repo. Everything works but when I try to launch amdcccle it doesn't start. I checked fglrxinfo and it gave me errors so I tried running sudo amdconfig --initial and that comes up with an error. What am I doing wrong? Ubu 1210
[02:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: so, tell me you're a grub wizart *prays*
[02:54] <guzzlefry> Quick question I think. Which php5-* module has the MySQLi stuff?
[02:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> abaddon: known error, methinks. check the exec line in the amdccle.desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ and launch manually with gksu/kdesu <listed command>
[02:55] <AcidRain2012> System program problem detected
[02:55] <AcidRain2012> never a good message to see
[02:56] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777, The file doesn't exist
[02:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> guzzlefry: apt-cache search php | grep -i mysqli?
[02:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> abaddon: may be a different name. run ls /usr/share/application-registry/ | grap -i amd
[02:58] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777,  grap or grep??
[02:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> abaddon: erm, grep, lol. typo
[02:59] <AcidRain2012> ok. back to the same old issue ive been having. in firefox. when i click on a torrent link, it asks me to save it. this is not what i want to do. it also gives me the options to open with another program.  NO programs are listed. where is the transmission binary file located? perhaps if i browse to it, firefox will remember my selection and start opening torrent with transmission
[02:59] <daftykins> grape!
[03:00] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777,  nothing happened with that.
[03:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> abaddon: grep fglrx?
[03:02] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777,  nothing happened with that ether. =/
[03:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> AcidRain2012: yes, this will work. I did the same with javaws
[03:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> abaddon: damn... how are you installing said fglrx?
[03:02] <nerdtron> AcidRain2012, /usr/share/transmission
[03:03] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777,  I've done it through terminal and tried through synaptic
[03:03] <AcidRain2012> nerdtron, thx
[03:03] <Ademan> I'm trying to set it up so that when I open up a 256 color capable terminal (gnome terminal, mate terminal etc) the $TERM variable gets set to something appropriate like xterm-256color but gnome-terminal seems to default to reporting itself as just xterm...
[03:03] <nerdtron> AcidRain2012, simple command to find the location of a program "whereis (program name)"
[03:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ademan: set it in ~/.bashrc
[03:04] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777,  I type sudo apt-get install fglrx. It runs fine but doesn't seem to work.
[03:04] <ChrisWere> Hey guys. Does anyone know the best way to handle AVCHD files? I've got a few hours of footage I need to play around with and support for the format really isn't that great and converting takes forever. What's the best way to handle this? Is it possible for me to buy better codecs for ubuntu?
[03:04] <Ademan> ntzrmtthihu777: if I set it unconditionally in bashrc then it will *incorrectly* report itself as xterm-256color even when it's not 256 color capable
[03:04] <Ademan> that's the problem, essentially
[03:05] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777,  I mean, it works kinda as i've got graphics but my gpu fahn is fullo blast and amdcccle doesn't work.
[03:05] <AcidRain2012> nerdtron, thx for the cmd. im about to try is. no binary in /usr/share/transmission
[03:06] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777,  that and I don't have dual display besides cloning
[03:06] <Ademan> hrm, it sets COLORTERM=mate-terminal I can switch off of that in my bashrc
[03:06] <nerdtron> AcidRain2012, in my system /usr/share folder there is a binary named transmission-gtk
[03:07] <nerdtron> transmission-gtk  ------> is the program itself
[03:07] <AcidRain2012> i found the binary in /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[03:07] <nerdtron> AcidRain2012, good
[03:07] <varunendra_> ChrisWere, I think the best codec (x264) is free, and natively supported by Linux. Do you have libavcodec-extra-53 installed?
[03:08] <AcidRain2012> nerdtron, YES ITS FIXED!!! THX dude! been working on this one issue for like 3months. lol
[03:08] <nerdtron> AcidRain2012, wow 3 months of agony :) no problem
[03:09] <ChrisWere> varunendra_: I do have it installed. It just takes forever to convert. Do I have any other options?
[03:09] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777, Any thoughts?
[03:09] <AcidRain2012> yea for real. i got tired of copying link location and pasting it into transmission. :/
[03:10] <daftykins> AcidRain2012: wow three months to find a program ;)
[03:10] <daftykins> i'm imagining a montage of hard work with paper and pen :>
[03:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> abaddon: sorry, no. if apt-get install fglrx or via synaptic didn't work idk what to tell you.
[03:10] <nerdtron> ChrisWere, maybe your hardware is not powerful enough?
[03:10] <AcidRain2012> lol. ya i know ;p
[03:11] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777, blarg...ok. thx dude
[03:11] <ChrisWere> nerdtron: Nope, got a pretty darn fast machine here
[03:11] <varunendra_> ChrisWere, since it is a complex codec, it WILL take longer to transcode. Codecs like XVid will be much faster but can't deliver the quality of x264. If you wish to directly edit (slice/cut/paste) the source files, then I'm not sure what to suggest for avchd.
[03:12] <AcidRain2012> swear i was just thinkin this. i said to myself 'i can code api to get carrier from cell phone number. i have setup several email servers that use google knowledge api to answer questions like sirii. ive created 100s of web sites programming in almost 10 different languages. yet, i cant find transmission. this has got to be fixed now
[03:12] <nerdtron> ChrisWere, why not convert using a windows OS and see if there is any difference?
[03:13] <ChrisWere> nerdtron: Windows is fine dealing with AVCHD files raw. It looks like this is one the areas where Linux can't seem to keep up.
[03:14] <nerdtron> ChrisWere, yup, some media codecs especially proprietary codecs can be a pain to read/convert/encode
[03:14] <nerdtron> in linux, that is
[03:14] <varunendra_> nerdtron, ChrisWere I have transcoded using some popular windows software (including simple tools like TVC and powerful ones like Avid), all of them were slower than Ubuntu when "transcoding" to x264.
[03:14] <ChrisWere> nerdtron: is it possible to buy better codecs?
[03:14] <jorge> hi
[03:14] <jorge>  how can I install ubuntu touch on my galaxy s?
[03:14] <selig5>  /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[03:14] <jorge> I follow the steps, but I get a black screen when phone is booting
[03:15] <bl4ckdu5t> Is there any way to easily clear /tmp files that are no more in use without going to delete them manually from the folder just like the "Disk Cleanup" in Windows?
[03:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> !touch | jorge
[03:15] <nerdtron> ChrisWere, "buy better codecs" i don't think codecs are bouhgt :) it usually depends on how "open" the codecs are...that'why you should choose a food format when you record
[03:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> bl4ckdu5t: bleachbit is good
[03:15] <jorge> thanks
[03:16] <bl4ckdu5t> thanks
[03:16] <combatwombat>  scp -P 22 username@ip:/mnt/share/"Hacking books" /"Hacking books"   I know for a fact that a directory called Hacking books exist under that /share folder, yet I still get an error    scp: /mnt/share/Hacking: No such file or directory     scp: books: No such file or directory    How do I tell it that there is a space if not " " I have even tried /mnt/share/Hacking\ books
[03:16] <selig5>  /usr/bin/transmission-gtk :AcidRain2012
[03:16] <ChrisWere> nerdtron: Is this the legendary community support I've been hearing so much about? "You should have bought a different camera"
[03:17] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777,  Would you happen to know how to purge all drivers pertaining to the gpu? Ie, fglrx, xserver, etc?
[03:17] <AcidRain2012> selig5, about 10min late arent u ;)
[03:17] <nerdtron> combatwombat, have you tried it the other way around? perform the copy on the remote machine
[03:17] <varunendra_> ChrisWere, it is just a community of "users", none of us have to qualify a standard to be a member :)
[03:17] <selig5> slow typist
[03:18] <combatwombat> The box I am on isn't dst natted so I need to do it in that direction nerdtron
[03:18] <nerdtron> ChrisWere, sorry i didn't help you much, you can wait for other people to to share there thoughts
[03:18] <nerdtron> or the forums?
[03:18] <varunendra_> ChrisWere, Ubuntuforums should be a good place for your question
[03:18] <nerdtron> combatwombat, add -v to the scp command
[03:19] <nerdtron> let's see the output if there is more
[03:19] <Fduvekxkcydf> I'm on my phone. Did anyone offer tips on getting autorun to work to crate my driver? I asked ~15 minutes ago under a diff name
[03:19] <ChrisWere> varunendra_: I'll have to give that a go.
[03:19] <ChrisWere> varunendra_: Do you know if I can buy decent software for this?
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> ChrisWere, Call sony and complain to them.
[03:20] <ChrisWere> wilee-nilee: AVCHD is a legitimately good codec, it's just Linux support for it is not so good.
[03:20] <varunendra_> ChrisWere, I don't know of any paid software for Ubuntu that performs better than the free ones, but I don't know much in this area.
[03:20] <whiptail> Is there a way yet to play aax files in ubuntu, i find it odd that i purchased the audiobook ages ago when i used windows and find now i cant open it
[03:21] <whiptail> damn drm thing
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> ChrisWere, It would if the makers had linux software.
[03:21] <varunendra_> ChrisWere, the forum section where you should post your question : http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334
[03:21] <ChrisWere> varunendra_: Thanks
[03:21] <varunendra_> np :)
[03:22] <nerdtron> ChrisWere, have you searched the software center for possible programs?
[03:22] <varunendra_> ChrisWere, you should also try forums that are dedicated to video editing.
[03:23] <combatwombat> nerdtron: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fbb5b42498824684669f
[03:23] <ChrisWere> nerdtron: I had a look. Not much to report there.
[03:23] <hanasaki> what version of vmware view is in here?    http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
[03:23] <ChrisWere> varunendra_: I'm having a little luck just messing around on the command line.
[03:23] <combatwombat> So it isn't handling the space.
[03:23] <nerdtron> combatwombat, seems like the space is the problem
[03:24] <combatwombat> right, which I am trying to work around
[03:24] <mwallacesd> Hi there. I create a new user instead rename the actual user. Now, how can I copy the actual user directories and files to the new profile if the security is based on permissions? There is a simple and quickly way???
[03:24] <nerdtron> combatwombat, w8 i'll try some commands on mine
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, vmware is not in the ubuntu repos I believe it is a 3rd party.
[03:25] <nerdtron> combatwombat, you have a gui?? on the file manager type:  sftp://user@ip
[03:25] <nerdtron> sftp://user@ip:/mnt/share
[03:25] <combatwombat> no gui
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, I was wrong I believe it is in quantal
[03:26] <ChrisWere> Thanks for the help guys.
[03:26] <nerdtron> combatwombat, scp 'user@host:/Path/"Some Filename With Spaces"'
[03:27] <nerdtron> please take note of the single quotes and the double quotes
[03:27] <daftykins> i don't do it like that 0o
[03:27] <combatwombat> yeah just noticed.. you can do the same, just putting the ' after the "
[03:27] <combatwombat> yet new error,
[03:27] <combatwombat> it thinks it is a file now.. it is a dir
[03:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> abaddon: sorry, afk. apt-get purge fglrx etc, I suppose.
[03:28] <combatwombat> -r it seems
[03:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> combatwombat: netcat can do stuff of that nature.
[03:28] <nerdtron> combatwombat, scp -r
[03:28] <hanasaki> wilee-nilee:  they say its in precise partner...     no? http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2021847
[03:28] <nerdtron> combatwombat, or rsync -avrh
[03:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> nerdtron: I just discovered the joys of rsync for copying large files with progress indicators :P
[03:29] <nerdtron> ntzrmtthihu777, yeah --progress is a god send
[03:31] <abaddon> ntzrmtthihu777,  yeah, did those already and it didn't work so well
[03:31] <combatwombat> hmm permission denied.. I assume that is on the linux side... (this is an smb share I have mounted)
[03:31] <hanasaki> wilee-nilee:  I need the vmware view pcoip :(
[03:31] <xmetal> back ... seems my connection got a case of the hiccups
[03:31] <hanasaki> what is the qxl in kvm?
[03:31] <nerdtron> combatwombat, yup maybe problems with the users you defined in smb....
[03:32] <combatwombat> hmm , haven't defined any users :P, on the local box I can traverse the directory without issue, not sure where to define them other than just chmoding the share folder..
[03:33] <nerdtron> combatwombat, chmod it is...anyway why a samba share? you also serve windows pc?
[03:33] <combatwombat> nerdtron: yeah, my domain controller is hosting files for the network.
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, They suggest adding deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner  I see that already in my precise sources.list this is a 3rd party site they may not be up to date with what is actually there.
[03:35] <hanasaki> wilee-nilee:  I am not on an ubuntu system right now.. .does it have 4.5.0-297975+dfsg-4+b1 or something newer?
[03:35] <hanasaki> please
[03:35] <hanasaki> vmware website says its newer... the ubuntu site said its 4.5 I think
[03:36] <mwallacesd> Hi there. I create a new user instead rename the actual user. Now, how can I copy the actual user directories and files to the new profile if the security is based on permissions? There is a simple and quickly way???
[03:36] <s1dev> .part
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, I'm in raring I just checked my sources list in another partition, I'm not familiar with this in any way really
[03:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> Heyo. Putting together a multi-iso boot usb with grub2, have some kinks to work out. I installed grub to it, configured menuentries for a few isos, popped it into my laptop that needs boot repair (botched arch install), and it drops to a grub rescue prompt, complaining about it cant find a disc with a certain uuid (/dev/sda1 on this machine, where I made the usb; not the uuid of the usb device). Bit of reasearc into the contents of th
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> I use vbox
[03:37] <combatwombat> i even did chmod 777 -R share and nothing :(
[03:38] <hanasaki> ok htanks wilee-nilee
[03:38] <hanasaki> wilee-nilee:  all sources point to installing a .exe that contains the .deb files needed... LOL nuts.   and I don't hae a windows box... any way to get a .exe open to take out the files inside?   on a linux box?
[03:39] <combatwombat> nerdtron: shouldn't chmod 777 -R share  give access to that folder to everyone?
[03:40] <nerdtron> combatwombat, have you tried mounting the samba share to your local manchine
[03:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> combatwombat: sloppy solution...
[03:41] <combatwombat> nerdtron:  it is..
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, there are exe downloads that have been forked, the ms fonts is one I believe so not sure again. If its in the repos it must be installable
[03:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> hanasaki: unzip can work, I have an exe ripper that works well under wine, cabextract if its the right type.
[03:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> combatwombat: samba?
[03:42] <nerdtron> combatwombat, if it is already mount on your local machine, you don't have to scp! just perform the normal copy [source folder] [destination folder]
[03:42] <combatwombat> alrighty, here goes,,, I have a local linux box with ssh dest-nat setup. I can ssh to it from anywhere.. I'm trying to copy a directory which is in a samba share to my friends linux box. I have mounted the samba share in /mnt/share
[03:42] <hanasaki> thank you wilee-nilee and ntzrmtthihu777
[03:43] <combatwombat> it is mounted on my local linux box as it used my ad creds to auth
[03:44] <combatwombat> When I try either my account or his, neither of us can scp it, it gives us permission denied. I assume that is because only root has access... that being said, my box doesn't allow ssh for root account.
[03:44] <combatwombat> ntzrmtthihu777: if you have a non-sloppy solution I am all ears.
[03:45] <combatwombat> root@spaceghost mnt]# ls -l total 4 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4096 Mar 10 19:15 share
[03:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> combatwombat: I do, lol. properly setup smb.conf and fstab. gimme a sec while I pastebin it for you.
[03:46] <combatwombat> sorry, wasn't aware I had to setup some conf..
[03:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6065060/
[03:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> fstab
[03:46] <combatwombat> fstab would be mounting it on boot?
[03:46] <combatwombat> That is one thing I don't want... I just want it mounted temporarily.
[03:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> combatwombat: nah, you can add that param if you want, but its not needed.
[03:47] <nerdtron> combatwombat, let's make it clear, the samba /mnt/share is in your linux box, and you wan to copy some files to a friend's computer.... on which computer do you issue the scp command?
[03:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6065064/
[03:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> smb.conf
[03:48] <combatwombat> I'm issueing the scp command from his box as his box isn't dst-natted
[03:49] <combatwombat> ntzrmtthihu777: I guess If I knew what I was trying to accomplish with these two files (as in, what the idea is behind the two) then I might be in a better position.
[03:50] <combatwombat> the reason I say this is, I'm not sure why I need to add it to fstab etc.
[03:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> combatwombat: autosets your proper permissions and such.
[03:52] <nerdtron> combatwombat, try to mount the samba share on your friends computer
[03:52] <combatwombat> I guess thats where I would prefer to just set what I need this time instead of "autoset" it.
[03:52] <combatwombat> nerdtron: I don't have shell on his box.
[03:52] <mwallacesd> Well, I asked: "Hi there. I create a new user instead rename the actual user. Now, how can I copy the actual user directories and files to the new profile if the security is based on permissions? There is a simple and quickly way?" Anyway. I found it:  sudo cp -R /home/actual_user/* /home/new_user THEN sudo chown -R new_user /home/new_user THE TRICK IS chown.
[03:52] <mwallacesd> Thanks.
[03:52] <mwallacesd> =)
[03:53] <flashmx> hi help me
[03:53] <flashmx> no puedo reproducir videos flash en youtube
[03:53] <_Joshua> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[03:53] <xmetal> !ask
[03:53] <xmetal> hmm did i get that wrong?
[03:53] <xmetal> ah n/m
[03:54] <rscnt> what?
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> !es | flashmx
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> flashmx, If you can understand install the restricted-extras
[03:56] <flashmx> ok
[03:56] <nerdtron> combatwombat, you said you issue the scp command on the friend computer??
[03:57] <combatwombat> well.. he does it..
[03:57] <rscnt> who?
[03:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> flashmx: apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[03:58] <combatwombat> ntzrmtthihu777: I am following this layout and am currently reading man mount.cifs to try and find what I am doing wrong with those permissions mount -t cifs -o <username>,<password> //<servername>/<sharename> /mnt/point/
[03:58] <flashmx> ya lo hice pero no sebe nada
[03:59] <_Joshua> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:59] <combatwombat> _Joshua: I don't want to mount anything permanently
[04:00] <_Joshua> same concept
[04:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> so, no pendrive linux masters? =_= dang
[04:00] <rscnt> flashmx:
[04:00] <rscnt> flashmx: por que no vas a #ubuntu-es
[04:00] <rscnt> flashmx: ?
[04:00] <_Joshua> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/mount.cifs.8.html
[04:01] <flashmx> ok
[04:01] <_Joshua>   mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt --verbose -o user=username
[04:02] <combatwombat> _Joshua: did that...
[04:02] <combatwombat> I have it mounted
[04:03] <combatwombat> but when I try to scp it, Permission Denied
[04:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> combatwombat: you need to set the file permissions proper.
[04:03] <combatwombat> ntzrmtthihu777: I am attempting to do so, however I don't want that sitting around in config files.. this is a one off.
[04:05] <nerdtron> combatwombat, i told the samba share should be mounted on your friends computer
[04:05] <combatwombat> he doesn't have the ad credentials to do so nerdtron
[04:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> combatwombat: better to set config files and get it done than not.
[04:05] <nerdtron> combatwombat, if he can't access the share on his computer, how can he be able to copy files??
[04:07] <_Joshua> a ninja!
[04:07] <combatwombat> ntzrmtthihu777: noperm should (i think) fix it, however I'm trying to figure out where to place it in the syantax nerdtron: he can access my linux box, he doesnt have AD credentials to access the windows side of things (aka mounting the share)
[04:08] <nerdtron> is your friends computer a windows computer??
[04:08] <combatwombat> nope
[04:08] <nerdtron> i'm lost sorry
[04:08] <sudormrf> Hey. Can anyone help me out... I am trying to install Ubuntu on my windows 8 laptop but it refuses to let me use a live disk.
[04:09] <_Joshua> secure boot
[04:09] <_Joshua> lols
[04:09] <sudormrf> _Joshua, yeah, I did manage to turn that off (I think) but no dice.
[04:09] <sudormrf> I can
[04:09] <roothorick> Ubuntu-Gnome 13.04 actually works pretty well in VirtualBox, even without 3D acceleration. Gotta say, I'm kinda impressed with the llvmpipe renderer.
[04:09] <sudormrf> 't even get into the live disk.
[04:09] <_Joshua> vm it, or dual boot
[04:10] <sudormrf> _Joshua, U want to dual boot.
[04:10] <sudormrf> I*
[04:10] <sudormrf> Well, honestly, I just want to be rid of the foul beast altogether.
[04:10] <roothorick> sudormrf: fill me in?
[04:11] <_Joshua> you and your dual booting stuff is just too personal
[04:11] <_Joshua> delete the volumes
[04:12] <sudormrf> roothorick, so, I put the disk in, I have it set to boot from disk first and the secure booting disabled in the bios -- but it refuses to even give me the option to boot onto the live CD.
[04:13] <roothorick> sudormrf: are you using 13.04?
[04:13] <sudormrf> roothorick, yes.
[04:13] <roothorick> sudormrf: 64 bit?
[04:13] <sudormrf> roothorick, Yep, yep.
[04:14] <roothorick> sudormrf: many UEFI BIOSes you have to hit a key to open a boot menu or it just automatically goes to HDD
[04:15] <combatwombat> dangit.. noperm didn't do it :(
[04:15] <_Joshua> 1. Is UEFI enabled in bios ( new enough that UEFI is a factor ?)
[04:15] <_Joshua> 2. Are you changing the boot priority in bios, to boot the alternate as 1st priority ?
[04:15] <_Joshua> 3. Have you checked the md5sum of the install cd ?
[04:15] <_Joshua> 4. Did you verify the install's disk filesystem integrity ?
[04:15] <sudormrf> roothorick, I can check that out... but when I go into the restore tools it gives me the option to choose os or choose EFI file, and it does not like my efi file.
[04:15] <FloodBot1> _Joshua: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:15] <_Joshua> jokes on you bot, it was a paste from notepad++  ;)
[04:15] <sudormrf> lol Floodboted.
[04:15] <_Joshua> lol
[04:15] <_Joshua> oh, well knowing is half the battle :)
[04:16] <sudormrf> Yes on 1 and 2 and no on 3 and 4.
[04:17] <sudormrf> It doesn't seem to like the EFI on the live disk.
[04:17] <sudormrf> By "it" I mean when I try to book from EFI file rather than OS.
[04:18] <roothorick> and "boot from OS" just goes straight to the HDD?
[04:18] <sudormrf> roothorick, yeah... well.. I mean, it gives me the option to boot from ubuntu, but that is only because I used WUBI before I figured out there is this secure boot issue.
[04:22] <Blaze> hey guys
[04:22] <_Joshua> hey Blaze
[04:22] <_Joshua> running any specials tonight?
[04:22] <_Joshua> heh
[04:26] <_Joshua> Guest98546 is a Spam DTS Agent - Beijing Express Email Address Extractor
[04:26] <_Joshua> just an fyi
[04:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> I'm about to lose my mind =_=
[04:35] <Guest98546> _Joshua no im not
[04:52] <droop> hello. im learning Linux and was wondering where i can find an Ubuntu thats already to play with on vbox.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> droop, All you have to do is install it.
[04:59] <Sean122> Ubuntu.com/download will give you the iso
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> droop, This appears to link to sources forge images, never used one I can only assume they are supported here after install.
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/
[05:05] <droop> wilee-nilee: cool. thanks. i asked because im trying out the learn linux the hard way lessons and he gave a file (.ova) that was preconfigured. i will attempt the options you suggested. thank you
[05:07] <reisio> sounds more like linux the easy way :p
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> oh yeah, ;)
[05:11] <dr_willis> bah just use the iso on vbox. that way you get to practice with disk partitions
[05:11] <dr_willis>   ;-)
[05:11] <reisio> yeah it only takes a bit
[05:12] <reisio> and you know where the media is coming from
[05:12] <dr_willis> some of those vbox premade images.. have had issues in here in the past
[05:12] <dr_willis> weird tweaks and so forth
[05:13] <LordPants> hi all... I just finished installing 64-bit 13.10, but I can't seem to install ia32-libs. is it deprecated? what's the workaround for running 32-bit apps?
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | LordPants funny nick
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[05:14] <reisio> LordPants: the package manager should know what they require
[05:15]  * reisio questions a learning linux tut that requires you to learn new things about using Windows & Windows software e:p
[05:17] <LordPants> wilee-nilee: thanks, I'll try in there, too
[05:17] <dilip> hello
[05:17] <LordPants> reisio: I'm installing manually because the package manager has an old version of Eclipse.
[05:17] <dilip> i'm not able to install jdk please help me
[05:17] <reisio> lord, eclipse
[05:18] <reisio> why don't you just use a language that has a future? :/
[05:18] <Tm_T> reisio: that is not helpful
[05:19] <Tm_T> dilip: could you give more details what is the issue?
[05:19] <LordPants> reisio: I'm developing Android apps... they seem to have a future :)
[05:19] <reisio> and if I recommended he learn algol, I s'pose that would be helpful?
[05:19] <reisio> LordPants: meh
[05:19] <Tm_T> reisio: not
[05:19] <reisio> Tm_T: so nothing is helpful :p
[05:21] <darkangel> Hey is it bad or good to Install Pre-Released Updates? in Update manager
[05:21] <reisio> it's good if you want them
[05:21] <darkangel> cool
[05:21] <reisio> from a stability standpoint, it's hard to imagine it would in general be wise
[05:21] <reisio> but Ubuntu doesn't really have a stable branch, so that may already be academic
[05:21] <Tm_T> darkangel: unless you are testing bug fixes, it's recommended to not use them
[05:21] <darkangel> oh
[05:22] <darkangel> ima beginner on Bug fixing but startin to learn it today...  how do u test a Program for Bugs any program?
[05:23] <Tm_T> darkangel: depends on the bug and the software, I recommend joining #ubuntu-bugs for further information
[05:23] <darkangel> ok thx
[05:25] <[[thufir]]> how do I combine something like "watch" with "tail" so that I see, live, the tail of a log?  there's a special command I saw for that once, but can't remember it...
[05:28] <somsip> tail -f filename
[05:28] <Al3xG0> help-me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6065254/
[05:31] <dswhite85> hi hi, how's it going?
[05:32] <dswhite85> i'm on 13.04 right now, is there any real reasons to upgrade to 13.10 when it's released?
[05:33] <The_Phoenix> Am trying to do a minimal Ubuntu install. I started with mini.iso and installed Ubuntu. Then, installed lxde, lubuntu-core, lubuntu-icon-theme lubuntu-restricted-extras. But, when I boot, after login, all I see is a wallpaper. No right-click menus. No icons or launchers.
[05:33] <The_Phoenix> I already installed 600MB+ data. :/
[05:36] <Tm_T> darkangel: 13.04 has 9 months of support, so if you don't upgrade, you're without support for several months before 14.04 is out
[05:36] <Tm_T> darkangel: ...and to upgrade to that you have to upgrade first to 13.10 anyway
[05:36] <darkangel> LOL im with Ubuntu 12.04 now
[05:37] <mwallacesd> me too.
[05:37] <darkangel> 13.04 is sooooo Unstable compairing to 12.04 LTS
[05:37] <mwallacesd> see you...
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, I have both, never had a problem with either.
[05:39] <mint_> Anyone know which *ubuntu has the fastest 3D performance? L/X/K... ubuntu itself is the slowest of the bunch
[05:39] <darkangel> well ima not sure if its just me or my computer but 12.04 seems a TAD bit faster then 13.04
[05:39] <[[thufir]]> somsip: thx
[05:39] <gRAVIty1> Trying to reformat an ntfs partition to ext3 using Gparted. Gparted shows "1 operation pending" for a long time.
[05:40] <xmetal> (just to try .. maybe in vm) when i get a chance on high speed ... i 'd probably try ubuntu again .... though i am not sure what version i'd get
[05:40] <gRAVIty1> can someone explain what is happening
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> gRAVIty1, Have you hit the green check mark in the top panel?
[05:41] <xmetal> did you hit "apply " ?
[05:41] <Tm_T> darkangel: aah, dswhite85 was the nick I was looking for
[05:41] <gRAVIty1> wilee-nilee - LOL max - i did not hit the green check mark
[05:41] <xmetal> wilee-nilee, has the same idea apparently
[05:41] <gRAVIty1> seems to have start ed now
[05:41] <gRAVIty1> :)
[05:41] <gRAVIty1> thanks xmetal
[05:41] <FloodBot1> gRAVIty1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <xmetal> no problem
[05:41] <darkangel> cool
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> In the words of James Brown "G R A V I T Y it's Gravity"
[05:43] <gRAVIty1> Ravi is my name and hence I picked it up :P
[05:43] <yugandhar> Hi  Guys, What is the irc channel for UEC (Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud)?
[05:43] <yugandhar> Please help me
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> Cool, you ever on the UF with your name as a nick?
[05:43] <dr_willis> !alis | yugandhar
[05:44] <gRAVIty1> ya as ravikanth1988 not as just ravi
[05:44] <yugandhar> !alis
[05:44] <mint_> Oh god halp, only 1 core on my nvidia motheboard is working, no clue why the other is missing
[05:44] <dr_willis> no one ever actually seems to read wwhat the bot says.....
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> gRAVIty1, Ah, I had a lot of conversations with a user with that name, lived in the mid east
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> what bit
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> bot
[05:45] <Tm_T> dr_willis: well, perhaps because using the bot that way isn't helpful (:
[05:45] <mint_> I have a C2D and a zotac nvidia chipset motherboard and for some reason only 1 core shows up... both work in xp/7
[05:45] <gRAVIty1> Ravi is a pretty common name in South India :)
[05:46] <Tm_T> yugandhar: #ubuntu-server is always good place to start
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> Tm_T, Hmm, and criticism is so helpful, lol.
[05:47] <Tm_T> yugandhar: for future reference, you can find list of ubuntu channels in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[05:47] <mint_> Does ubuntu work well on intel's new haswell cpus?
[05:47] <Tm_T> mint_: yes
[05:51] <xmetal> hmm
[05:51] <mint_> Anyone have an idea why only 1 of my 2 cores is working? it's a C2D and nvidia IGP board
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> mint_: where are you seeing 1 core? top?
[05:54] <mint_> ya only 1 in top/htop
[05:54] <nerdtron> top command then press 1
[05:54] <darkangel> 1 at 0% and 1 at workin like changing %
[05:55] <mint_> cpu0 and that's it
[05:55] <darkangel> ya i had that problem b4
[05:55] <Ben66> mint_: mint is not supported here
[05:55] <darkangel> Did u just Install Ur Distro resently?
[05:55] <nerdtron> mint_, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:56] <mint_> nerdtron: http://pastebin.com/UDTa9Cg4
[05:57] <aeon-ltd> that says celeron right there
[05:57] <mint_> Both cores hum away in windows xp and 7, but linux pretends i only have 1 core
[05:57] <nerdtron> mint_, what version of ubuntu is this?
[05:58] <Ben66> mint_: you can try asking in the mint support channel, or in ##hardware, but we can not help you with mint here
[05:58] <mint_> 13.04
[05:58] <aeon-ltd> my bad it does have 2 cores http://ark.intel.com/products/42771/Intel-Celeron-Processor-E3300-1M-Cache-2_50-GHz-800-MHz-FSB
[05:58] <darkangel> ROFL it says i have 800MHZ processor woooow if u have a 2 Core CPU would that be 1.6 GHZ?
[05:58] <mint_> aeon-ltd: 2 cores and loves to be overclocked... although it's stock right now
[05:58] <reisio> darkangel: not usually
[05:59] <darkangel> aww ok
[06:00] <mint_> anyone with an E3300 care to post your cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:00] <reisio> mint_: uname -v
[06:00] <nerdtron> mint_, edit the /etc/init.d/rc and make sure that this line is defined CONCURRENCY=makefile
[06:01] <Ben66> mint_: you seem to be ignoring me. WE DO NOT SUPPORT MINT IN HERE
[06:01] <Ben66> !mint | mint_
[06:02]  * xmetal decides not to say it
[06:02] <reisio> it!
[06:02] <aeon-ltd> xmetal: bird?
[06:02] <xmetal> lol reisio
[06:03] <mint_> Ben66: I'm ignoring you because I'm not using mint
[06:03] <Ben66> your nick and ident say you are
[06:03] <nerdtron> Ben66, how to know that he is using mint?
[06:04] <Ben66> thats the default nickname and ident for mint systems
[06:04] <mint_> SMP Debian 3.2.32-1 aaand now i'm using debian instead, it also is stuck using 1 core, every distro i've tried is stuck using 1 core
[06:04] <MrSassyPants> why is dovecot running?
[06:04] <reisio> MrSassyPants: for email servage?
[06:04] <darkangel> How can u adjust ur Fan speeds and Over clock on Ubuntu???
[06:04] <dr_willis> sounds like a kernel bug to me mint_
[06:04] <MrSassyPants> no. I mean. I disabled it via rcconf, yet after a reboot, it's there.
[06:05] <nerdtron> mint_, have you tried my suggestion?
[06:05] <mint_> dr_willis: I think it is... every distro has the same problem, I'd like ubuntu to work the most of all of them though... strange windows xp and 7 works
[06:05] <MrSassyPants> I'm going to kill it with fire now, but I first want to know why it's getting started
[06:05] <dr_willis> darkangel:  for fans it can depend on your pc chipset, and fan controller chipset. (and video card)  - as for overclocking - it depends on what you want to overclock
[06:06] <mint_> nerdtron: uname -v? SMP 3.2.32
[06:06] <reisio> MrSassyPants: probably because you asked for an email server at some point
[06:06] <MrSassyPants> reisio, there is no email server in rcconf
[06:06] <MrSassyPants> (activated anyhow)
[06:06] <darkangel> processor is there a Terminal command for stuff like overclocking?
[06:06] <Ben66> mint_: thats not an ubuntu kernel, please go to the support of whichever distro you're running
[06:06] <reisio> MrSassyPants: not necessarily relevant to my guess :)
[06:06] <MrSassyPants> reisio, why is dovecot running?
[06:07] <reisio> MrSassyPants: probably because you asked for an email server at some point
[06:07] <MrSassyPants> that is not an answer to my question
[06:07] <reisio> it seems like it is...
[06:07] <Ben66> it is an answer actually
[06:07] <MrSassyPants> I said "don't start dovecot at boot"
[06:07] <MrSassyPants> then it starts dovecot at boot.
[06:07] <reisio> you mean why technically, like, what configuration tells it to run?
[06:07] <reisio> ah
[06:07] <reisio> how'd you say it?
[06:07] <MrSassyPants> I want to take fire and blood and death to this.
[06:08] <MrSassyPants> So why is it running?
[06:08] <reisio> and I want to get back to work, so... answer my question? :p
[06:08] <reisio> how did you tell it to not start?
[06:08] <MrSassyPants> rcconf
[06:09] <dr_willis> im not sure rcconf works with upstart managed services
[06:09] <Ben66> !upstart | MrSassyPants
[06:10] <MrSassyPants> so upstart starts it?
[06:10] <MrSassyPants> removing that crap
[06:10] <reisio> moreover, if you don't want it, just uninstall it :) and further, you could check your logs to see what took it in as a dep
[06:10] <Ben66> uh... you don't want to remove upstart
[06:10] <MrSassyPants> it starts stuff that I don't want it to start
[06:10] <MrSassyPants> that makes it malware.
[06:11] <Ben66> no
[06:11] <MrSassyPants> malware gets the boot.
[06:11] <Ben66> thats just silly
[06:11] <dr_willis> MrSassyPants:  perhaps you shouldd learn your system.. and stop ranting silly things
[06:11] <Ben66> it starts everything. good luck with all that
[06:11] <linu> hi all i have been trying to work on qconnman on my ubuntu 12.04 pc,i followed https://github.com/OSSystems/qconnman-ui , but after successfull installation i just tried to run but it shows just empty white window without any options,can you tell how to work on it ?
[06:11] <dr_willis> upsstart has REPLACED sysV
[06:11] <MrSassyPants> dr_willis, how should I learn anything when it's constantly changing?
[06:11] <dr_willis> theres just a few bits of sysv fallback code
[06:12] <dr_willis> Upstart has not changed in the last 4+ releases as far as i know
[06:12] <dr_willis> its been upstart for like 3+ years i think
[06:12] <dr_willis> people dont notice - becuase of the sysv fallback bits that are slowly phased out.
[06:13] <dr_willis> i suggest a read of the upstart 'cookbook'
[06:13] <reisio> MrSassyPants: it's not upstart's fault
[06:13] <dr_willis> im not sure if ubuntu is planning on swutching to that systemd or whatever it was called , other init system that arch and some other disrtos are using
[06:13] <reisio> MrSassyPants: you told your system to install something, and that something either was dovecot, or asked for dovecot to also be installed
[06:13] <MrSassyPants> well, upstart booted a service I explicitly instructed rcconf not to boot.
[06:14] <Ben66> well rcconf doesn't do what you think it does
[06:14] <dr_willis> rcconf is basicaly ignored then it sounds like.. its out dated
[06:14] <dr_willis> or its not the right tool for the job..
[06:14] <reisio> MrSassyPants: you might want to look into disabling apt's 'recommends' for the future
[06:14] <MrSassyPants> well what is then?
[06:14] <dr_willis> you edit the upstart  serrvicename.conf files to manage  upstart
[06:14] <dr_willis> like the upstart cookbook/docs say
[06:15] <dr_willis> !find dovecot.conf
[06:15] <dr_willis>   /etc/init.d/dovecot.conf  if it exists - would show its managed by upstart
[06:15] <Ben66> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[06:16] <reisio> MrSassyPants: rcconf probably comes with some package which is still used in some other ways :)
[06:18] <ubuntuthistime> Soo i'm on regular ubuntu 13.04, no derivs, only 1 cpu core works, both work on windows... #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 18 18:09:44 UTC 2013
[06:18] <reisio> haha
[06:18] <dr_willis> ubuntuthistime:  and how are you determing that its using 1 core?
[06:18] <reisio> ubuntuthistime: did you ever try what nerdtron said?
[06:18] <coolstar> Which do you guys think is better? KDE or Unity?
[06:18] <reisio> MrSassyPants: rcconf probably comes with some package which is still used in some other ways :)
[06:19] <ubuntuthistime> what did he say?
[06:19] <reisio> coolstar: I don't much care for either :)
[06:19] <coolstar> I'm trying to decide between Ubuntu or Kubuntu
[06:19] <reisio> ubuntuthistime: edit the /etc/init.d/rc and make sure that this line is defined CONCURRENCY=makefile
[06:19] <xmetal> get ubuntu and install the kde packages .. .so you have both
[06:19] <xmetal> :)
[06:19] <coolstar> xmetal: well it's the ubuntu base anyways, so I could even install xfce if I wanted xD
[06:19] <reisio> coolstar: KDE is more Windows like by default, Unity is more Mac OS like
[06:20] <reisio> Unity/GNOME
[06:20] <reisio> Xfce can go either way, but the Xubuntu version of Xfce is configured to be more Mac OS like
[06:20] <reisio> easily changed, but still
[06:20] <coolstar> well I'm currently using Ubuntu, but I'm experiencing some performance issues with Unity
[06:21] <coolstar> haven't noticed any last time I tried KDE, but I tried KDE like a year and a half ago
[06:21] <Ben66> ubuntuthistime: run this in terminal... echo $(uname -a) $(cat /etc/issue) | pastebinit
[06:21] <coolstar> or meh, I'll just boot kubuntu from a live USB and see how it goes
[06:21] <nerdtron> ubuntuthistime, edit the /etc/init.d/rc and make sure that this line is defined CONCURRENCY=makefile
[06:22] <ubuntuthistime> yup it's already set
[06:22] <reisio> coolstar: KDE's accelerated window manager stuff is probably better developed than Unity's...
[06:22] <reisio> just a guess
[06:22] <MrSassyPants> reisio, is there an upstart-capable alternative to rcconf
[06:22] <reisio> compiz was basically unmaintained for some time
[06:22] <ubuntuthistime> http://pastebin.com/FaZVEgRt
[06:22] <reisio> MrSassyPants: I'm sure there is, but I don't know upstart well enough to say, ask the channel
[06:22] <reisio> I _believe_ someone already said, though
[06:22] <coolstar> reisio: yeah, Ubuntu 11.04 and higher ran pretty horribly on my previous computer
[06:23] <coolstar> I used to use Kubuntu on it (Thinkpad t60 w/ ATI X1300)
[06:23] <reisio> coolstar: there's an unaccelerated version of Unity, IIRC
[06:23] <coolstar> I'm currently on a Thinkpad t410 though, which is fairly recent
[06:23] <reisio> but at that point you may as well just use Xfce configured to look like Mac OS, IMO
[06:23] <coolstar> reisio: I really miss Gnome 2 though :(
[06:23] <xmetal> heck (atm i use a ubuntu "cousin') but i'd just instal Ubuntu and then install packages for other DE's
[06:24] <coolstar> that was pretty awesome
[06:24] <ubuntuthistime> It's as if linux thinks my cpu is a single core, but windows xp has no problem despite being from 2003(my xp disk)
[06:24] <xmetal> -but
[06:25] <dr_willis> gnome2 was pretty lacking in a lot of ways that people have frogotten about
[06:25] <reisio> coolstar: Xfce then
[06:25] <reisio> dr_willis: not slow enough? :p
[06:25] <coolstar> reisio: I'll give KDE a try and see
[06:25] <reisio> ubuntuthistime: you said that already :)
[06:25] <coolstar> on my previous computer it took a long time to start KDE initially, but I have an SSD on this one
[06:25] <dr_willis> the never ending cycle of 'lets remove these features because they are scary to beginners....' ;0
[06:26] <coolstar> so I hope it'll be a lot faster :D
[06:26] <reisio> ubuntuthistime: I've seen this problem come up before, but not often
[06:26] <reisio> ubuntuthistime: what all distro/kernels have you tried?
[06:26] <john_john> Redshift still refuses to run on both of my monitors
[06:26] <reisio> dr_willis: very GNOME :)
[06:26] <ubuntuthistime> Every distro from 2008 to now, i have about 40 images
[06:26] <reisio> john_john: consider it a favor, use xcalib -i -a instead
[06:26] <xmetal> dr .. .that sounds like MS's mentality to me
[06:26] <reisio> redshift is for tourists :)
[06:26] <rocko88> hi
[06:26] <dr_willis> reisio:  well very 'recent gnome ' i rember back in the ximian gnome days.. ;)
[06:26] <reisio> hi rocko
[06:27] <Ben66> ubuntuthistime: are you running in a vm or something
[06:27] <reisio> GNOME's always been that way, IME
[06:27] <rocko88> :)
[06:27] <reisio> they just get better at it as time goes on
[06:27] <reisio> or worser :p
[06:27] <john_john> reisio: I see, and I could just add it to startup as well?
[06:27] <dr_willis> who needs screensaver settings anyway! ;)
[06:27] <rocko88> a night beatiful!!!
[06:27] <reisio> john_john: you could, but it's better on-demand (keyboard shortcut)
[06:27] <reisio> john_john: also compiz (what Unity uses) can invert a single window on its own (xcalib -i -a inverts everything)
[06:28] <ubuntuthistime> Every SMP enabled version of windows I own(all of them) works with this motherboard(9300ITX) but linux does not... hmm... the GPU does work though
[06:28] <reisio> the only thing better than inverting colors is wearing sunglasses, works better than anything, you just look silly
[06:28] <reisio> they should really put fewer and dimmer LEDs in computer monitors :p
[06:28] <reisio> ubuntuthistime: you said, many times
[06:29] <alfreddba> hi am using monit to monitoring my server...how to monitor ruby application using monit. pls guide me..
[06:29] <rocko88> is a night beautiful in mexico
[06:29] <rocko88> my greetings all community
[06:29] <Ben66> ubuntuthistime: are you running in a VM? you said something about having "about 40 images"
[06:29] <ubuntuthistime> http://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-geforce-9300-itx-gf9300-i-e.html This is the culprit... nice ITX board with GPU I use for HTPC/workstation
[06:29] <ubuntuthistime> Ben66, off USB/CD, not in vm...
[06:30] <john_john> reisio: oh I see, I'd rather just have redshift working then because f.lux refuses to anything. I like it when it gradually gets darker as time goes
[06:30] <dr_willis> sounds to me like a kernel+bios type bug,,
[06:30] <ubuntuthistime> Funny you mention VM, because linux in a VM atop winodws works with 2 cpus.... ruing native is the problem
[06:30] <reisio> john_john: you should at least try inverting colors first
[06:31] <john_john> reisio, the command for deactivating it is? ^^
[06:31] <reisio> there's just no comparison... one changes the hues ever so slightly, one takes masses of WHITE and changes it to black
[06:31] <reisio> john_john: same command, it toggles
[06:31] <CyberJacob> Hi
[06:31] <john_john> xcalib is not installed :<
[06:31] <reisio> hi CyberJacob
[06:31] <reisio> john_john: install it :)
[06:32] <CyberJacob> Is it possible to broadcast multiple SSIDs when a wireless card is in AP mode?
[06:32] <john_john> Reisio: it only inverts the colors on one screen :/
[06:33] <reisio> john_john: heh, maybe DISPLAY=:0.0 xcalib -i -a; DISPLAY=:0.1 xcalib -i -a or something
[06:34] <alfreddba> how to monitor passenger..pls help me
[06:34] <john_john> Reisio: Error - Can't open display :0.1
[06:35] <reisio> john_john: it's whatever xdpyinfo | grep -i display says
[06:35] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  passengers?
[06:36] <alfreddba> dr_willis: sorry passenger-nginx.
[06:36] <reisio> john_john: perhaps :0 and :1
[06:37] <john_john> reisio: weird, it says there's only 0.0
[06:37] <dr_willis> http://mmonit.com/monit/documentation/
[06:37] <reisio> john_john: is the other one a clone?
[06:37] <john_john> reisio: nope, I can move windows into it and whatnot
[06:38] <john_john> must be a bug with catalyst
[06:38] <reisio> mmmm, possibly
[06:39] <reisio> I'd be quite surprised if you couldn't figure it out, though
[06:39] <john_john> should probably turn off crossfire acceleration since it says that it can only accelerate one screen
[06:39] <reisio> you can get a feel for it one one monitor, regardless
[06:39] <reisio> on one*
[06:39] <dr_willis> john_john:  for nvodoa twinview theres  0.0 and 0.1  with the one being the second monitor
[06:40] <viktor> Hello world
[06:41] <nerdtron> does anybody know what will happen if i flush the mail queue?
[06:41] <nerdtron> or postfix flush -----what will this command do?
[06:44] <NuSuey> uh, anyone got some experience with tripple boot & (or) with darwin bootloader (mac os). I tried to install ubuntu this morning, but It won't add an entry there (to darwin) >.< any tips?
[06:45] <reisio> NuSuey: IME, one only needs a single OS
[06:46] <NuSuey> reisio: >.< well.. that will happen, but not now.. need 3 of em :P
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> VMs!
[06:46] <john_john> dr_willis I can utilize the two monitors, as well as choose between them in settings, catalyst etc. But the terminal believes that there is only one monitor, so f.lux and alike can only run in the second one for some reason.
[06:46] <IdleOne> NuSuey: try asking #MacOSX darwin is not supported on ubuntu
[06:46] <NuSuey> IdleOne: well, ok
[06:47] <IdleOne> reisio: if all you can do is offer non helpful comments. I suggest you find somewhere else to do it
[06:47] <dr_willis> no idea what f.lux is.  ;)
[06:47] <john_john> dr_willis same with redshift
[06:47] <john_john> this is getting hard on my eyes. :(
[06:47] <coolstar> dr_willis: basically makes the display colors look like the lighting in the room
[06:48] <coolstar> dr_willis: so it's easier to say, code at midnight
[06:48] <dr_willis> bah.. for weaklings.  :)
[06:49] <dr_willis> do flux just alters the colors on one display
[06:49] <john_john> yes
[06:49] <john_john> On my secondary display too
[06:49] <alfreddba> dr_willis:  thanks i can monit nginx..how can i monit passenger and ruby application
[06:50] <alfreddba> ip tables i want to  change ssh port 22 some other port like 3000..pls help
[06:51] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  check the monit docs and faq and forums for examples yet?
[06:52] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  the sshd configs let you change the ports
[06:52] <john_john> why can I no longer copy links to folders? Geeze everything is so simplified
[06:53] <nurow> How can I disable the incredibly annoying line between my two monitors when I move my cursor between them?
[06:53] <alfreddba> dr_willis:  sshd config..pls guide me..
[06:53] <john_john> nurow: I think by disabling the snapping options in compiz
[06:54] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  read the config files comments. and sshd docs. its a trivial setting to change
[06:54] <nurow> so I'd have to install compiz? I don't currently have it
[06:55] <john_john> nurow: that's how I fixed it, there's probably an easier way that I don't know of
[06:55] <alfreddba> dr_willis: thanks..i googled it for passenger monit...where i can find the process id of passenger.
[06:55] <dr_willis> alfreddba:  bash basics.. the  ps command can do that I imagine
[06:56] <dr_willis> nurow: what desktop are you using?
[06:56] <alfreddba> dr_willis: using ps command i can find the pid..how to get the location of pid.
[06:57] <reisio> default Ubuntu already uses compiz, though you might want to reconfigure it
[06:57] <dr_willis> location? dont know what you mead
[06:57] <dr_willis> mean
[06:58] <alfreddba> where pid is stored..for particular pid like 2315
[06:58] <litang> leave
[06:58] <dr_willis> dont think they are stored anywhere. some apps log them to  appname.pid    ive seen befor
[06:59] <dr_willis> or look in /proc  perhaps
[07:00] <john_john> why can't i navigate to my home folder with the terminal
[07:00] <nurow> dr_willis: Unity
[07:00] <john_john> I do cd /home, but when I do cd /and my name it can't find the catalog?
[07:00] <dr_willis> cd /home/username  gives what error?
[07:01] <dr_willis> nurow:  unity is a compiz plugin
[07:01] <nurow> eh? so how do I access compix settings then?
[07:01] <dr_willis> ! ccsm
[07:02] <dr_willis> install and run ccsm to tweak compiz
[07:02] <nurow> I see.
[07:02] <nurow> thanks John_john and dr_willis
[07:02] <alfreddba> dr_willis:  i mean for delayed job the pid is in the location /var/www/app/shared/pids/delayed_job.pid like how to get passenger pid
[07:05] <ihre> If I mount a 100G hdd on /var/lib/backuppc, while my /var partition is actually 10G, could I use the additional 100G?
[07:06] <somsip> ihre: yes - that's the idea
[07:06] <nurow> odd.. I disabled snapping windows but it still happens?
[07:08] <dr_willis> nurow:  ive seen sometimes some ccsm settings dont take efffect untill you log out/back in..   but ive not fought with ccsm in ages. ;) so not sure how common that is these days
[07:08] <nurow> okay, i see. I will have to try later then. thanks dr_willis
[07:08] <dr_willis> ihre:  thats how mount works
[07:09] <ihre> somsip: well thats weird then, du -hsx /var reveals 2,9G, while df -h reports 100% use on var, and /var/lib/backuppc is 10G. I wonder where the additional 7G comes from then
[07:09] <dr_willis> ihre:  you could have /home/ and each user have gtheor own home mounted to some other partion for example
[07:09] <nurow> actually... let's try it now
[07:09] <dr_willis> the mountpoint size shold not be included i imagine.
[07:10] <nurow> all of my windows are messed up now.. i  can't drag/drop them
[07:10] <nurow> so trying to log out now
[07:10] <ihre> dr_willis: I thought so, but I cant figure out where the additional ~7G comes from then
[07:10] <john_john> Can I use the same dvd disc do install another operating system with, say Kubuntu?
[07:11] <coolstar> oh wow, KDE is so pretty
[07:11] <john_john> yeah I don't think this unity thing is for me. I aint no tablet user
[07:11] <dr_willis> john_john:  what other os?
[07:11] <dr_willis> unity is not like my tablet at all.
[07:12] <dr_willis> You can nstall several desktops on the same system, with no need for seperate insstallss of the os;s
[07:12] <john_john> dr_willis: I think Kubuntu fits me better, like just replacing ubuntu with it
[07:12] <dr_willis> john_john:  install the kubuntu-desktop package on any ubuntu install. and you will ahvee both desktops
[07:13] <john_john> dr_willis: but how do I switch the current GTK for KDE then?
[07:13] <john_john> also, wont it be bloated as fuck?
[07:13] <dr_willis> not really
[07:14] <dr_willis> a few movies would be taking up 3x the space all of kde does or unity
[07:14] <aeon-ltd> john_john: to switch you log out chnge session and log in
[07:15] <universal> anyway of changing from one desktop to another without logging out the session ?
[07:15] <bazhang> universal, no
[07:15] <universal> that means its a comple DE session ?
[07:16] <universal> complete*
[07:16] <nerdtron> john_john, what is yoru computer specs?
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> universal: yeah, you need to end a sesh to start a sesh
[07:16] <nerdtron> i tried installing KDE over Ubuntu and it runs fine
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> universal: or you need to run multiple instances of X
[07:16] <universal> you mean virtualization ? or something else ?
[07:17] <john_john> nerdtron: they're good enough, it's just that it feels as if I fucked up this installation a little too much and would like to make a clean install, haha.
[07:17] <IdleOne> !language
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> universal: Xorg xserver
[07:17] <universal> !Xorg
[07:18] <john_john> oh sorry
[07:18] <universal> aeon-ltd: pls throw some light on X !
[07:19] <john_john> If my harddrive is encrypted with ubuntu, will I need the password if I make a clean install?
[07:19] <Aceface>  hi i got a question anout linux kernels, can i install 3.11 on any linux distro or are old distros not supported by newer kernels, or do linux distros make their own kernels and i shouldn't install a generic version?
[07:20] <Aceface> has ubuntu fixed the massive wireless bug that drop wifi signal yet?
[07:20] <bazhang> Aceface, link us the bug number
[07:20] <reisio> Aceface: which bug is that?
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> universal: what about it, it's pretty big
[07:22] <universal> aeon-ltd: I mean how to rum multiple session of X ?
[07:22] <Aceface> uhm idk the bug number
[07:22] <Aceface> it was with alot of distros
[07:23] <Aceface> Bug #1173759?
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> universal: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=67003
[07:24] <Aceface> i was just curious if it was a distro issue, kernel issure or driver issue
[07:25] <FourFone> Hello again
[07:26] <FourFone> I'm asked that I've stopped compiz the procsess
[07:27] <FourFone> I am afraid that I need the commands required to restart it without restarting the whole system
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> john_john, The HD or the install?
[07:28] <Aceface> any ideas?
[07:28] <FourFone> I have them written down... on my desktop...
[07:30] <john_john> wilee-nilee I did it with the ubuntu install since there was an option for it
[07:30] <FourFone> Can anyone help me?
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> john_john, You can wipe it with the live cd.
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> john_john, I assume there is nothing there you want.
[07:32] <bazhang> FourFone, stop what? compiz ?
[07:33] <FourFone> Yes I stopped compiz accidenlty
[07:33] <john_john> correct, thanks
[07:33] <FourFone> And I need to restart it without restarting the entire systen
[07:33] <Aceface>  hi i got a question anout linux kernels, can i install 3.11 on any linux distro or are old distros not supported by newer kernels, or do linux distros make their own kernels and i shouldn't install a generic version?
[07:34] <bazhang> Aceface, which ubuntu version are you on
[07:34] <bazhang> FourFone, log out and back in
[07:35] <Aceface> 10.04
[07:35] <FourFone> How?
[07:35] <Aceface> so can i install 3.11 on ubuntu 10.04
[07:35] <FourFone> Nothing I ťry to do garners a response
[07:35] <bazhang> Aceface, thats not supported, see eol upgrades link
[07:35] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Aceface
[07:36] <FourFone> I can't even bring up a standard terminal
[07:36] <ColombianBootloa> Aceface, why do not you try what you want to do using a VM. and your ubuntu version? instead of your current one!!
[07:36] <FourFone> There was something you can do some more fundamental terminal
[07:36] <Oxymoron> I dont know how, but my user account was removed from the sudoer file. Is it possible to readd myself?
[07:37] <bazhang> FourFone, are you on unity? gnome-shell?  there is a dropdown menu with "log out" as an option in both
[07:37] <FourFone> I be usedit before but the instructions are on my computer: (
[07:37] <Oxymoron> I have root access though?
[07:38] <ColombianBootloa> I would like to ask something here, Does anybody uses a program to keep all usernames and passwords in one place? so you can remember ALL. I just do not remember the name of the application
[07:38] <bazhang> ColombianBootloa, keepassx?
[07:38] <FouFon> Okay any ideas?
[07:39] <dr_willis> i just use a little notebook ;0
[07:39] <bazhang> FouFon, use the dropdown menu that says "log out"
[07:39] <FouFon> Yeah I'm going to put backup notes on paper after this
[07:39] <ObrienDave> A notebook is so old school.  Lmao
[07:39] <ColombianBootloa> yes mate!!! keeppassx...lol..ok I will search on that one..
[07:40] <bazhang> ColombianBootloa, that should be in the software centre/repos
[07:40] <FouFon> The dropdown menu doesn't respond to my moudrclick
[07:40] <ferr> !broadcom
[07:41] <FouFon> Nothing does: (
[07:41] <bazhang> FouFon, what version of ubuntu, what shell (unity, gnome-shell), what exactly have you tried so far
[07:41] <Jordan_U> ObrienDave: Individual accounts aren't listed in /etc/sudoers directly by default. You probably accidentally removed your user from the "sudoers" group.
[07:42] <FouFon> 12.04 unity
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Oxymoron: ^^
[07:42] <ObrienDave> Umm, that was not me asking
[07:42] <Jordan_U> ObrienDave: Sorry, I mistabbed your nick instead of Oxymoron's.
[07:42] <ObrienDave> No biggie.  Lol
[07:42] <delinquentme> sooo lets say I'm wanting to upgrade my ubuntu install to 12.04
[07:42] <Oxymoron> Jordan_U: I changed root password, then my own regular account was removed from the sudoers group, wtf?
[07:43] <delinquentme> on 10.04 currently
[07:43] <delinquentme> is this something I should just wipe and reformat?
[07:43] <FouFon> Undoing command reclicking control [command] t
[07:43] <delinquentme> or does a 10>12 upgrade actually happen?
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> FouFon, what ubuntu release is it?
[07:43] <FouFon> Alt tab
[07:43] <Jordan_U> Oxymoron: What specifically did you do? Also note that having a root password set is not needed and is highly discouraged.
[07:44] <FouFon> Command tab
[07:44] <FouFon> FM f1-for12
[07:45] <FouFon> Fn f1-f12
[07:45] <Oxymoron> Jordan_U: I dont know, somehow I was removed from root access, I needed to change UNIX root passwd again and then I was removed from sudoers group.
[07:45] <Oxymoron> Doenst feel safe ...
[07:45] <FouFon> Control alt del
[07:45] <Jordan_U> Oxymoron: Assuming that you used the terminal to do this, what are the exact commands that you ran?
[07:46] <FouFon> Forcing a sleep mode
[07:47] <FouFon> Wilee-nilee 12.04
[07:47] <FouFon> Unity
[07:47] <ferr> anyone could help me with dependencies?
[07:48] <FouFon> All of those things caused no change in the screen apart fromforcing sleep
[07:49] <FouFon> I can't just rstart because I have unsaved Erik imortant work
[07:50] <FouFon> I know that there is some lower level command line terminal built into Ubuntu below the desktop envirinment
[07:51] <Ben66> there is a terminal yes
[07:51] <dr_willis> FouFon:  the linux consoles are on alt-cgrl-f1 through f6
[07:51] <FouFon> I've yews it before to solve this issue but I've forgotten the commands require
[07:52] <Oxymoron> Jordan_U: passwd I used and changed root password
[07:53] <FouFon> Ok cool now how do I restart compiz exactly?
[07:54] <dr_willis> compiz --replace &
[07:54] <dr_willis> is one way
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> FouFon, More exserienced users than my self have told you to just restart, however at your own risk look at the reset for 12.04 using a tty. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[07:54] <dr_willis> or launch some other window manager if compiz keeps crashing
[07:55] <FouFon> No I stopped it via task manager
[07:55] <FouFon> How do I kill then rstart it?
[07:55] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-t if a terminal opens, use 'compiz --replace &'
[07:56] <dr_willis>  --replace makes it replace any other running
[07:57] <FouFon> It eeriest an error "compiz core fatal coulnt open display"
[07:57] <FouFon> Returns*
[08:00] <dr_willis> and you are running it from a terminal or the CONSOLE ?
[08:00] <dr_willis> if the console - you need to export the proper DISPLAY variable
[08:00] <dr_willis> export DISPLAY=0.0      Ii think)
[08:02] <geirha> DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace &
[08:04] <varun> my display is garbeled everything is appearing on top left corner
[08:05] <varun> login fields buttons , everything is on top left corner
[08:05] <uhpnou> hello is it possible to set up a proxy server for a single user?
[08:05] <ObrienDave> varun==> describe "everything"
[08:06] <VigilanteP> hey, I'm installing Ubuntu for the first time, and it appeared as though it would boot into a GUI based installer, but it eventually puts me in a command shell with this error (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[08:06] <VigilanteP> I'm booting it off of the UBCD as I had some hard disk troubles
[08:06] <varun> when i got login screen the login box and all the buutons that appears on top right , all are on top left corner
[08:06] <bazhang> VigilanteP, did you md5 the iso yet
[08:07] <huangxintai> chaod
[08:07] <varun> ObrienDave, and when i enter password and hit enter
[08:07] <VigilanteP> bazhang: I suppose I should do that now then
[08:07] <FourFire> I'd like to thank all the helpful people in this channel
[08:07] <varun> i got desktop but again everything is n top left corner
[08:07] <bazhang> !hashes | VigilanteP
[08:08] <bazhang> varun, min/max/close buttons?
[08:08] <strange_> hey guys anyone using rdp for some reason it looks like every connection makes a new session instead of attaching
[08:08] <ObrienDave> varun==> right click on the panel and adjust the properties
[08:08] <FourFire> the solution, worked and now I am going to take special precautions not to ever stop that program again
[08:08] <VigilanteP> bazhang: Very unfamiliar with this all, but it should definitely be an iso and not an img then?
[08:09] <varun> i cant see anything except some buttons that aperas on top right are now on top left and nothing  else
[08:09] <bazhang> !md5 | VigilanteP this may clarify things a bit
[08:09] <varun> ObrienDave, but its not working
[08:09] <varun> i can access terminal though
[08:09] <bazhang> varun, the MIN/MAX/CLOSE buttons?
[08:09] <VigilanteP> bazhang: thanks, wasn'
[08:09] <VigilanteP> sure were to start looking
[08:10] <VigilanteP> :)
[08:10] <varun> bazhang, nothing
[08:10] <bazhang> varun, what buttons are you talking about then
[08:10] <ObrienDave> varun==> when you right click on the panel, do you see a menu?
[08:11] <varun> bazhang, only a solid color screen
[08:11] <varun> ObrienDave , nope
[08:11] <auronandace> varun: perhaps taking a screenshot will explain the situation better
[08:11] <varun> bazhang, that appears on top right corner
[08:11] <taomili> hello
[08:11] <bazhang> varun, screenshot please
[08:11] <varun> auronandace , sure
[08:12] <varun> in a minute
[08:12] <panda110> Hi
[08:14] <varun> hey can anyone tell me where to upload the screen shots
[08:14] <DJones> !imagebin | varun
[08:14] <varun> roger that
[08:15] <john_john> Wow, KDE looks amazing
[08:15] <Resager> When ubuntu replace X? 14.04?
[08:15] <ObrienDave> xfce looks better. pffffft ;)
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> Resager: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_%28display_server%29#Display_servers
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> Resager: that's a summary of mir so far
[08:18] <varun> http://imagebin.org/269915 ,,,,, http://imagebin.org/269916...   there r 2 images one is full screen and other is of top left corner
[08:18] <Resager> aeon-ltd: i can use openbox on this? :)
[08:19] <dr_willis> Resager:  mir has a xmir thing..
[08:19] <freakynl_> Hi, can anyone make anything of this? http://pastebin.ca/2443956 not sure if it's in the mirror
[08:19] <the-newsman> hi all, what can i do to solve  problems as in this link http://www.fpaste.org/37235/36913313/ ?
[08:19] <dr_willis> mir is very much a work in progress.  but  you can play with it in 13.10 a bit
[08:20] <ObrienDave> varun==> you need to expand that panel to 100% width
[08:20] <varun> bazhang , ObreinDave , i've snd the link
[08:20] <the-newsman> dr_willis,
[08:20] <the-newsman> dr_willis,  any suggestions for me ?
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> the-newsman: get the keys?
[08:20] <varun> what should i do then
[08:20] <the-newsman> aeon-ltd,  i dunno what do u mean
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> the-newsman: read the lines you posted
[08:20] <the-newsman> how to get the keys and isntall them
[08:21] <aeon-ltd> no idea
[08:21] <aeon-ltd> never used rpm properly before
[08:21] <ObrienDave> varun==> try to right click between the icons. you should get a menu eventually
[08:21] <aeon-ltd> the-newsman: you should really ask in a fedora channel
[08:21] <ObrienDave> varun==> it can be touchy finding the right spot
[08:22] <the-newsman> why fedora ?
[08:22] <the-newsman> i am using now ubuntu
[08:22] <varun> ObrienDave, nothing is happening
[08:22] <varun> even after clicking
[08:22] <aeon-ltd> the-newsman: isn't rpm for fedora's package manager?
[08:22] <varun> right and left buttons
[08:22] <the-newsman> no as far as i know. it is for all *nix
[08:23] <varun> ObrienDave,  any command line workout for this
[08:23] <dr_willis> err.. rpm is definatly NOT for all *nix
[08:23] <ObrienDave> varun==> not that i know of, sorry
[08:23] <dr_willis> and you really really dont want to use rpms on ubuntu
[08:23] <DJones> the-newsman: Ubuntu doesn't use rpm's
[08:23] <DJones> !rpm | the-newsman
[08:23] <varun> can any one here help me out on this
[08:24] <the-newsman> DJones,  ok.. but the rpm works on ubuntu and its problem is not "workign on ubuntu" but for missing key as shown in http://www.fpaste.org/37235/36913313/
[08:24] <varun> ??
[08:25] <ObrienDave> varun==> try between, on each end, can you get to setting manager?
[08:25] <Jobin_Sun1> How do create package installation for all linux distros
[08:26] <dr_willis> Jobin_Sun1:  'all' disrtos is quite a broad range.
[08:26] <varun> ObrienDave, let me see if i can
[08:26] <DJones> the-newsman: I've never needed to use rpm's, hopefully somebody else will be able to help, but bear in mind that its generally not supported so you may not find many people with experience here
[08:26] <Jobin_Sun1> ubuntu , red hat , centos is enough
[08:26] <dr_willis> Jobin_Sun1:   commonly done is a tar.gz of the precompiled binaries that are staticly compiled.
[08:26] <dr_willis> best is have a .deb for ubuntu and .rpm for  redhat and so forth
[08:27] <dr_willis> even better - would be have a ppa for ubuntu.
[08:27] <Jobin_Sun1> i try static complied , but it's not stable ,
[08:27] <ObrienDave> oops, cut myself off. lol
[08:27] <the-newsman> DJones,  can i /pm u ?
[08:27] <dr_willis> Jobin_Sun1:  that would be about as stable as it can get from what ive read.  perhaps you are doing it wrong.  I dont develop any more. ;) been ages
[08:29] <Jobin_Sun1> it's died when run a while
[08:29] <DJones> the-newsman: Better sticking in the channel so that otehr people can jump in with support
[08:29] <varun> ObrienDave, i got it
[08:29] <varun> now what
[08:29] <varun> ObrienDave, i got settings manager
[08:30] <ObrienDave> varun==> under panel prefs, ...
[08:30] <the-newsman> ok
[08:30] <ObrienDave> varun==> just a sec
[08:30] <varun> okk
[08:30] <ObrienDave> varun==> look for panel, .....
[08:31] <ObrienDave> varun==> display,.....
[08:31] <varun> ObrienDave, yes display
[08:31] <varun> ObrienDave, now what
[08:32] <the-newsman> DJones,  look at that. http://www.fpaste.org/37237/37836990/
[08:32] <ObrienDave> varun==> length, 100% and check automatically increase length
[08:32] <the-newsman> i am still stuck to the missing or wrong key problem
[08:32] <the-newsman> any1 here interested to support me to udnerstand RPM's ?
[08:33] <DJones> the-newsman: I'm afraid thats beyond me, its not something I've ever looked at or seen, hopefully somebody else can assist
[08:33] <bazhang> the-newsman, how is that related to Ubuntu support at all
[08:33] <the-newsman> bazhang,  i am tryign to install myfile.rpm and it fails
[08:33] <ObrienDave> bazhang==> because he's running ubuntu
[08:33] <the-newsman> i am using ubuntu
[08:33] <bazhang> the-newsman, trying how
[08:34] <DJones> the-newsman: If you're installing deluge, why aren't you using the version in the UBuntu repositories
[08:34] <varun> ObrienDave, im getting resolution ,rotation , detect display
[08:34] <delinquentme> Lulzzz OK o ubuntu 10.04 .>> 12.04 is this a clean upgrade?
[08:35] <delinquentme> or should I wipe and reinstall?
[08:35] <bazhang> delinquentme, yes
[08:35] <delinquentme> bazhang, that was a binary
[08:35] <delinquentme> not a yes or no :P
[08:35] <the-newsman> DJones,  cuz the point is how to use rpm to install files. deluge is just an example of bittorrent client
[08:35] <bazhang> delinquentme, Yes to #1 of your binary
[08:36] <ObrienDave> varun==> go back to settings manager and look for panel first. then display tab
[08:36] <varun> okk
[08:36] <bazhang> the-newsman, its a terrible practice, not something you should ever be *used to*
[08:36] <the-newsman> bazhang,  but it is prt of the Linux+ certifiation is to get practicing on such packaging tools such as rpm, yum etc
[08:37] <bazhang> the-newsman, especially for things that are not *absolutely* necessary
[08:37] <delinquentme> bazhang, it upgrades correctly?
[08:37] <varun>  ObrienDave, after checking for panel i got only display
[08:37] <delinquentme> bazhang, I find this almost hard to believe...
[08:37] <ObrienDave> ok, hang on
[08:37] <varun> hmm
[08:37] <bazhang> delinquentme, it's a one step upgrade
[08:38] <bazhang> delinquentme, back up in all cases, if you are concerned (or not)
[08:38] <ObrienDave> varun==>  dang, i'm on Xubuntu. give me a sec
[08:39] <varun> okk
[08:41] <universal> i downloaded a lot of pics and transfered them to my usb drive......but only a few got transfered and rest disappeared ! why and how to get back the rest ?
[08:41] <ObrienDave> varun==> can you get to settings editor? not settings manager
[08:41] <dr_willis> universal:  you did unmount/eject the device befor unplugging it?
[08:42] <varun> ObrienDave, after giving xrandr i got DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[08:42] <universal> dr_willis: i did nothing but usb got dismounted by itself 2-3 times
[08:43] <dr_willis> universal:  sounds like the usb, or filesystem, or port. may  be having hardware issue to me then
[08:43] <ObrienDave> varun==> no, xrandr is for multiple monitors. this is different
[08:44] <varun> ObrienDave, okk
[08:44] <universal> dr_willis: the front end plastic of usb connection port is damager a lil bit.....so it becomes loose at times.....but now how to  get those pics back ? they are already moved so not shown in home folder and not in usb also
[08:44] <varun> ObrienDave , where i can found it
[08:45] <dr_willis> universal:  if it failed at the wrong time, they could be gone.
[08:45] <universal> dr_willis: recovery ?
[08:45] <dr_willis> universal:  if you are lucky they are in the users trash directory
[08:45] <ObrienDave> varun==> how did you get to settings manager?
[08:45] <dr_willis> universal:  theres ddrescue, but again. if they never got written to the usb to begin with. they may be gone
[08:46] <universal> dr_willis: nothing in trash....i have set it to directly delete everything
[08:46] <ObrienDave> oops
[08:46] <universal> dr_willis: ooo....and recovery from home folder ?
[08:46] <dr_willis> !undelete
[08:46] <dr_willis> good luck undeleteing stuff... ive never seen it work.
[08:47] <ObrienDave> varun==> do you see anything in settings manager that says panel?
[08:48] <universal> dr_willis: my bad luck.....I think the best is to re-download those pics....and what were trying to point at with unmount/eject before unplugging ? any problem unplugging without unmount/ejecting ?
[08:48] <universal> you*
[08:49] <varun> ObrienDave, i got apps , desktop, schemas, system
[08:49] <ObrienDave> universal==> YES, sometimes write cache has not finished writing ALL of the file data
[08:49] <dr_willis> universal:  if you count total data loss and file sysem as a 'problem' Yes....    always properly unmount decices.. even under windows..
[08:50] <varun> ObrienDave, which one i should select
[08:50] <ObrienDave> let's try them all. look for panel or something like that
[08:50] <varun> i got it
[08:50] <universal> when first i was transfering it didn't tranfer anything at all but displayed error that destination is unreacheable.....so i removed and reattached usb 2-3 then transfered the files
[08:50] <varun> it is in desktop - inus
[08:50] <varun> now what
[08:51] <varun> ObrienDave, now what
[08:51] <dr_willis> universal:  i think that would have triggered a big  'red flag' that the usb was not to be trusted
[08:51] <ObrienDave> ok! in there you should be able to find the length settings for your panel. it should be panel 0
[08:52] <ROT13`> hi
[08:52] <ROT13`> anyone here?
[08:52] <MrQuist> nope
[08:52] <ObrienDave> varun==> set length to 100%
[08:52] <dr_willis> ROT13`:  if all 1000+ of us say no.....
[08:52] <universal> dr_willis: any way to check if the usb is healthy or not ? any app or other way ?
[08:52] <dr_willis> universal:  you just sort of described that its not to be trusted..
[08:52] <ROT13`> lol
[08:53] <ObrienDave> ROT13`==> no one here but us chickens LOL
[08:53] <ROT13`> haha
[08:54] <dr_willis> !ask
[08:54] <varun> ObrienDave, i gotcustom font, lookup table orientation, show, show icon on systray, show im name , custom font, x, y
[08:54] <varun> ObrienDave, no lenght
[08:55] <universal> how to use geolue service ?
[08:55] <ObrienDave> varun==> dang, been too long since I ran Ubuntu. There has to be something in there somewhere. At least I think so
[08:56] <varun> ObrienDave, i'm cross checking on 2 machines and they are showing same result, if i was wrong
[08:56] <universal> !geoclue
[08:56] <fidel> universal: what are you trying to do?
[08:57] <universal> nothing.....I am trying to find out whats the use of geoclue service and how to use it
[08:57] <ObrienDave> varun==> do both machines look that way now?
[08:57] <varun> yes
[08:58] <varun> i'm getting stretch option
[08:58] <varun> but that is already enabled
[08:58] <dr_willis> i wonder how many in here have even heard of geoclue   -    sounds like some   geography quiz show.
[08:58] <blazemore> universal: Yes, but why? What would be a sucesful outcome for you?
[08:58] <universal> otherwise I'm already in mood to do anything after loosing 1 hour of work in transfering file to damaged usb disk
[08:58] <fidel> universal: i am asking as you mentioned once 'geolue' later 'geoclue' ...and i've never seen such a cmd used inhere.
[08:58] <ObrienDave> varun==> ok, stretch is a step in the right direction
[08:59] <dr_willis> !find geoclue
[08:59] <dr_willis> !info geoclue
[08:59] <fidel> geographic framework ...i see
[08:59] <universal> its geoclue or geoip service with link geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup
[09:00] <dr_willis> oh look.. it says im on easter island.. ;)
[09:00] <universal> lol...I have a female friend there...haha
[09:00] <ObrienDave> dr_willis==> bunny hopping??? LOL
[09:01] <dr_willis> when in fact im on  Haloween Island. ;PP
[09:01] <ROT13`> lmao
[09:01] <universal> anyways whats its use and how to use it ? coz its shown nowhere in ubuntu but its service enabled in dconf
[09:01] <blazemore> universal: It's used by applications that use your location
[09:02] <universal> so its much better if i disable it so that apps no longer get my location info
[09:02] <blazemore> universal: Well that would depend if you would use it or not
[09:02] <spobat_> hello
[09:02] <universal> I hope datetime service doesnt uses it to get users local location and time
[09:02] <blazemore> Why not? That's exactly the sort of thing it's for
[09:03] <universal> but its written nowhere that datetime service uses it......it has its own individual service
[09:03] <blazemore> It's publically available information based only on your IP address, it's not like you're leaking any less information by disabling it
[09:04] <universal> blazemore: i know....but i just came across it.....so wondering why its enabled when its not mentioned anywhere in ubuntu other than its service name in dconf
[09:04] <blazemore> universal: For example, I can see you're connecting from Hoshiarpur in the Punjab region of India
[09:04] <universal> hahaha
[09:04]  * dr_willis puts on his tinfoil hat
[09:05] <universal> well I'm surely a thousand miles away ffrom that place
[09:05] <blazemore> universal: Well, that's where geoip services place your IP
[09:05]  * dr_willis rerouts to the proxy severs on the platues of leng.
[09:06] <universal> blazemore: meaing its scrambling my ip to my location ?
[09:06] <blazemore> universal: I'd recommend moving this discusson to #ubuntu-offtopic really
[09:06] <VigilanteP> bazhang: !md5
[09:06] <VigilanteP> !md5
[09:06] <universal> lol...ok
[09:07] <VigilanteP> bazhang: arg, lost that link form before and dont know how you did that command
[09:07] <spobat_> roughly, how many LOC has the current ubuntu version?
[09:07] <VigilanteP> !hashes
[09:07] <universal> LOC ?
[09:07] <fidel> lines of code
[09:08] <VigilanteP> thanks
[09:08] <blazemore> spobat_: The kernel alone has 15 million
[09:10] <ObrienDave> varun==> any luck finding the panel width setting?
[09:10] <spobat_> blazemore: yeah, but ubuntu has probably a lot more
[09:10] <spobat_> with x11, DE, utilities
[09:11] <blazemore> spobat_: Well Ubuntu includes the kernel, and many applications and libraries, so of course it will
[09:11] <blazemore> !ot | spobat_
[09:11] <spobat_> blazemore: it are almost 16m btw
[09:11] <spobat_> (15.8)
[09:12] <universal> how much code is ubuntu specific or its totally a debian traformation ?
[09:12] <blazemore> Debian and Ubuntu both package their own stuff
[09:13] <universal> packaging is just packing of code.....
[09:13] <Longgeek> hi
[09:14] <reisio> universal: ? :p
[09:14] <fidel> hi - i sm realizing via mail.log that the package ssmtp is trying to send mails. is there a way to troubleshoot what was causing this mail? as in: which app is trying to use ssmtp to send a mail in the first place?
[09:15] <universal> reisio: ??
[09:15] <reisio> :)
[09:16] <universal> is wondering what happened
[09:16] <blazemore> fidel: Does the contents of the mail not give a clue?
[09:16] <fidel> blazemore: well the mail seems not to be successfully sent
[09:16] <fidel> so - i dont know how to access those mails in the first place to read em ;)
[09:17] <nerdtron> fidel, can you post the mail logs?
[09:17] <reisio> universal: very little is Ubuntu specific, on the whole
[09:17] <ObrienDave> fidel==> any decent text editor should be able to view the actual Email file
[09:17] <universal> doing ps aux | grep mailclientname will show the app trying to use mail client ?
[09:18] <universal> reisio: such a wonder answer after :P and :)...thnx lol
[09:18] <universal> wonderful*
[09:18] <fidel> ObrienDave: i see the mail via mail.log on my client - which is sending this mail as root@host... - the mail hangs finaly in my mailserver - where i cants access it inside the queue
[09:18] <fidel> or - dont know how to do so
[09:18] <fidel> nerdtron: focusing on mail.log?
[09:19] <reisio> universal: yeah that was in response to 'packaging is just packing of code.....' :)
[09:19] <universal> lol
[09:19] <nerdtron> yup..you say it is sending on your mail server right?
[09:19] <fidel> nerdtron: yep
[09:20] <nerdtron> what is ithe log on the mail server about this "root@host..." email?
[09:26] <kimda> hi. I 've got ubuntu 12.04 running as a kvm guest and am experiencing networking issues. I can ping certain domains while others cannot be reached from the guest. On the kvm host I am not experiencing any issues. Any ideas what could be causing this?
[09:27] <fidel> nerdtron: what i can see on the mailserver-side is that the mail has an invalid sender domain.
[09:27] <fidel> again checking mail.log
[09:27] <nerdtron> fidel, what is your question again? you are finding which program sends this email?
[09:28] <fidel> nerdtron: yes - i would like to know which app is trying to send those mails - whichout having an exmaple mail to read from
[09:29] <nerdtron> fidel, sorry i misunderstood....now do you identified already the host in which this email came from?
[09:29] <fidel> yes
[09:29] <fidel> and i know that this host is using the package ssmtp to send
[09:30] <nerdtron> fidel, invesstigate that machine, you might want to chekc the crontab if there are any cron that sends email
[09:30] <fidel> looks like first mail is send pretty much after reboot
[09:30] <nerdtron> what packages did you last installed in that host?
[09:30] <fidel> thats wild guessing - as the mails appear since a longer period
[09:32] <nerdtron> hmmm....check the mail.log and the syslog of the host to see any mail activity
[09:33] <IamTrying> http://i.imgur.com/4BUVtws.png - Like flooding i have this tail -f /var/tmp/syslog, how can i stop this overflow which is causing system crash and SSH login to be frozen.
[09:34] <blazemore> !details | IamTrying
[09:34] <fidel> the only mail-functionality i am using which i know of is mdadm - but those mails are send successfully
[09:35] <nerdtron> fidel, i have an idea, do you know the recipient of the root@localhost email?
[09:35] <nerdtron> i mean you can see that in the logs? right
[09:35] <IamTrying> blazemore, I have a problem with OpenSSH and Ubuntu, I am running Ubuntu version 12.04 64-bit, When i try to SSH the box it never able to give me access, i get the following output: http://i.imgur.com/4BUVtws.png  while tail -f /var/log/syslog, but i expected it to do no flooding like this http://i.imgur.com/4BUVtws.png
[09:36] <cagriUbntu> hey guys, does any of you have any experience at connecting through VPN with ubuntu 13.04
[09:36] <maiz> cagriUbntu: you can use network manager to connect to a vpn
[09:36] <nerdtron> fidel let the email pass the mail server and read the email when it is received :)
[09:36] <nerdtron> IamTrying, your image, i can't view it
[09:36] <blazemore> IamTrying: It looks like there might be a bug in the kernel with a fix scheduled for Ubuntu 13.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1207612
[09:36] <cagriUbntu> maiz, i tried that, but it wont connect. it says connecting failed
[09:37] <maiz> cagriUbntu: did you import some ovpn file?
[09:37] <cagriUbntu> maiz, no i have not. but my school havent told me to do eithe
[09:37] <cagriUbntu> r
[09:37] <maiz> what files did they gave you?
[09:38] <maiz> give
[09:38] <cagriUbntu> no files
[09:38] <Thamer> Hello.
[09:38] <cagriUbntu> an adress
[09:38] <cagriUbntu> and a username/passwor
[09:38] <cagriUbntu> d
[09:38] <IamTrying> blazemore, that is what i was expecting this USB issue is breaking my whole project. thank you
[09:38] <maiz> cagriUbntu: did they say if it was openvpn or some other vpn?
[09:39] <the-newsman> does any1 know how to use rpm efficiently ?
[09:40] <Thamer> use the command, < man >.
[09:40] <blazemore> You shouldn't use rpm on Debian systems like Ubuntu, the-newsman - what are you trying to do?
[09:40] <Thamer> This is helpful.
[09:40] <cagriUbntu> maiz: no, but i tried them all. it tries to connect, but keeps disc. then suddently it says vpn failed
[09:40] <the-newsman> blazemore,  i am stuck in installing package. found myself dived into keys etc etc
[09:41] <maiz> cagriUbntu: hm sorry i don't know then
[09:41] <the-newsman> blazemore,  can i /msg u to keep track what i am doing ?
[09:41] <blazemore> the-newsman: Yeah but what are you actually trying to do?
[09:41] <blazemore> the-newsman: No, please keep it in channel
[09:42] <IamTrying> blazemore, can i try kernel http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ? to fix that temporary with 12.04 64-bit? (i have many other devices and they were stable in kernel 3.5.0-23-generic )
[09:42] <the-newsman> see that blazemore  http://www.fpaste.org/37251/37837414/
[09:42] <blazemore> IamTrying: I suppose you could try it
[09:43] <blazemore> the-newsman: Why are you installing deluge from an rpm?
[09:43] <the-newsman> blazemore,  i am already on root account
[09:43] <blazemore> the-newsman: sudo apt-get install deluge
[09:43] <IamTrying> blazemore, will updating the kernel, also later cause trouble with my other frameworks such as vlc/mplayer/gstreamer packages?
[09:43] <the-newsman> blazemore,  cuz i want to practice on using rpm. what is wrong to use one of linux tools ?
[09:43] <blazemore> IamTrying: Probably not, and you can always boot back to a different older kernel
[09:44] <blazemore> the-newsman: Use a different distro like Fedora or OpenSuse which is rpm-based
[09:44] <maiz> hi, i'm on kubuntu 13.04, and when i'm connected to an openvpn server with the network-manager; i cannot connect anymore to programs like: pidgin, konversation, kvirc, it founds the server, but gets stuck on "Connecting..."; browsing works fine; what could be causing this? thanks
[09:44] <the-newsman> blazemore,  rpm is one of Linux+ certification
[09:44] <IamTrying> blazemore, OK i will try the new kernel and see if it fix and will let you know
[09:44] <blazemore> the-newsman: Do you see where it says: However assuming you know what you are doing...
[09:44] <blazemore> the-newsman: Don't continue if you can't allow it to make that assumption (hint: you can't it seems)
[09:44] <the-newsman> so what is my problem ?
[09:45] <blazemore> if you want Deluge, install it from the repositories. if you want to learn how to use RPM, install Fedora or CentOS in a virtual machine
[09:45] <the-newsman> and how to solve it
[09:45] <blazemore> your solution is the command: sudo apt-get install deluge
[09:45] <the-newsman> alright
[09:45] <DJones> the-newsman: You would be better installing something like Fedora in virtualbox to learn how to use rpm's, that way you'll be learning on a distro that supports them properly rather than learning how to do it by fiddling on Ubuntu
[09:46] <the-newsman> ok
[09:46] <the-newsman> does yum work the same ?
[09:46] <the-newsman> i mean on fedora
[09:46] <blazemore> the-newsman: yum is like apt-get
[09:46] <nerdtron> the-newsman, yum install deluge
[09:46] <the-newsman> blazemore,  does it work perfectly on ubuntu ?
[09:47] <blazemore> the-newsman: No, it doesn't work at all without serious hackery
[09:47] <blazemore> If you need to work with rpms, you need to not be using Debian/Ubuntu
[09:47] <the-newsman> hackery ?
[09:47] <blazemore> difficult configuration
[09:49] <rdw200169> blazemore: there is also alien
[09:49] <Skizu> Hey I'm using phpDocumentor and I'm getting a unserialization failed message and nothing more, anyone know how I can get any details as no error files appear to be made
[09:49] <cutie> rdw200169: That's true although I've never managed to make it work properly
[09:49] <blazemore> rdw200169: sorry wrong client
[09:50] <varun> ObrienDave, i'm stuck
[09:50] <varun> ObrienDave, nothing useful found
[09:51] <the-newsman> blazemore,  listne dude./ fedora is abt 1 giga . so it will need soemtime to be downloaded. can u tell me meanwhile what is my problem with the error msg u saw in fpaste ?
[09:51] <blazemore> the-newsman: The error message is, you are trying to fit a part for a Ford onto a Citroen
[09:51] <ObrienDave> varun==> dang. I haven't used Ubuntu in such a long time, I'm out of ideas. I know it's just a panel setting. Just don't know where it is
[09:51] <rdw200169> the-newsman: blazemore: reading back tho, if you want to work with rpm's and whatnot for that Linux+ cert (which for all intents and purposes is completely useless unless a future employer is asking for it) use Fedora/CentOS
[09:51] <rdw200169> the-newsman:
[09:52] <varun> ObrienDave, i 'll check if there is any
[09:52] <blazemore> varun: Fill me in, what are you trying to do?
[09:52] <the-newsman> i like Ford and BMW
[09:52] <blazemore> the-newsman: Did you install deluge by the package manager? Did it work?
[09:53] <varun> blazemore, trying to get my destop
[09:53] <rdw200169> the-newsman: I would suggest CentOS only b/c that is what most companies (I've worked with anyway) use that don't want/need RedHat licensing
[09:53] <the-newsman> blazemore,  i told u. deluge is nothign for me except an example for using rpm. just dummy target
[09:54] <Skizu> Hey I'm using phpDocumentor and I'm getting a unserialization failed message and nothing more, anyone know how I can get any details as no error files appear to be made
[09:54] <blazemore> Skizu: What does the message say exactly?
[09:54] <blazemore> !details
[09:54] <IamTrying> blazemore, trying to install the latest kernel but dependency problem showing , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6065902/
[09:55] <blazemore> IamTrying: Where did you get the deb from?
[09:55] <Skizu> blazemore:  [ErrorException]   unserialize(): Error at offset 838 of 2258 bytes
[09:56] <IamTrying> blazemore, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/
[09:56] <blazemore> IamTrying: No don't do that
[09:56] <IamTrying> blazemore, where else then
[09:56] <maiz> hi, i'm on kubuntu 13.04, and when i'm connected to an openvpn server with the network-manager; i cannot connect ping any server (even though the ip address is resolved) what can i do?
[09:56] <the-newsman> blazemore,  can i use alien to convert the deluge first to deb hence use dpkg next ?
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> IamTrying  saucy is not yet stable
[09:56] <blazemore> Oh hang on, IamTrying did you download all the debs? You need 3 of them
[09:57] <IamTrying> blazemore, wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-rc1-saucy/linux-headers-3.11.0-031100rc1-generic_3.11.0-031100rc1.201307141935_amd64.deb;  wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-rc1-saucy/linux-image-3.11.0-031100rc1-generic_3.11.0-031100rc1.201307141935_amd64.deb; sudo dpkg -i linux*.deb
[09:57] <blazemore> MonkeyDust: He wants to try to backport its kernel because there's a recent bug which was fixed in it
[09:57] <IamTrying> blazemore, i got always 2 only
[09:57] <blazemore> IamTrying: Look at what the error is saying. You need http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/linux-headers-3.11.0-031100_3.11.0-031100.201309021735_all.deb
[09:57] <IamTrying> MonkeyDust, not problem just want to make sure that /var/log/syslog is not getting flood
[09:58] <blazemore> IamTrying: Expect interesting things to break, but you can boot the old kernel if they do
[09:58] <roninn> shouldn't this work when added to /etc/profile (for all users): export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin
[09:58] <_jordan_> Hello everyone, I'm tying to install ubuntu 13.04 on a packard bell laptop with the 64 bits DVD. After boot on the text-mode, the DVD drop into a black screen if I choose 'Try ubuntu' or 'Install ubuntu'. I think the graphic card could be the problem, that's an nvidia GeForce 520M
[09:59] <the-newsman> blazemore,  see that http://www.fpaste.org/37253/78375134/
[09:59] <blazemore> _jordan_: Does the system have a make and model?
[09:59] <blazemore> the-newsman: OK that worked without any problems, try installing the deb now. Although there's a perfectly good deb in the repositories...
[09:59] <_jordan_> blazemore: That's an easyNote TS
[10:00] <the-newsman> but there r many warnings/ does that tell u anything ?
[10:00] <blazemore> the-newsman: They're just warnings about unsigned packages. What are you trying to achieve here?
[10:00] <cagriUbntu> can anyone help me install eclipse
[10:00] <blazemore> !details | cagriUbntu
[10:01] <maiz> hi, i'm on kubuntu 13.04, and when i'm connected to an openvpn server with the network-manager; i cannot connect ping any server (even though the ip address is resolved) what can i do?
[10:01] <the-newsman> blazemore,  to install deluge by using dpkg. just to avoid the direct usage of rpm
[10:01] <iceroot_> is there a tool to monitor the traffic on a specific device for a specific time-window (including reboots in that window)
[10:02] <blazemore> the-newsman: You can do that by the command "sudo apt-get install deluge"
[10:02] <blazemore> the-newsman: That will download a deb file which has been built by the Ubuntu packaging team, and install it
[10:02] <the-newsman> http://www.fpaste.org/37255/37531413/
[10:02] <the-newsman> blazemore,  see that plz  http://www.fpaste.org/37255/37531413/
[10:02] <blazemore> the-newsman: Stop doing what you're doing
[10:02] <blazemore> the-newsman: Run the command "sudo apt-get install deluge"
[10:03] <blazemore> I am not going to progress any further with your problem because we'll go round in circles
[10:03] <rdw200169> the-newsman: yeah, you're just gonna run into a ton of rules file problems that don't match up with the way it was packaged as an rpm
[10:03] <VigilanteP> I'm trying to boot into the installer from the custom section of UBCD, have verified the MD5 and corrected the previous problem, same result.  Shell with the error (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[10:04] <the-newsman> rdw200169,  u mean, even using alien wonnt work as long as the soruce is .rpm, yes ?
[10:04] <blazemore> the-newsman: That deluge rpm was not packaged for Ubuntu. so no, it probably won't work.
[10:04] <blazemore> the-newsman: All alien does is convert packaging formats
[10:05] <the-newsman> do u mean, the .rpm must compile the application for every flavour in linux ?
[10:05] <Skizu> blazemore: No idea?
[10:05] <blazemore> the-newsman: Somebody compiled the deluge source code and packaged the resulting files, along with configuration and dependency information, into an rpm, designed to be installed on Fedora or similar
[10:06] <blazemore> Skizu: Sorry no :|
[10:06] <Skizu> blazemore: Damn
[10:07] <_jordan_> I precise than the DVD works on an other PC and automatically boot in graphical mode instead of text mode
[10:07] <VigilanteP> Is it wrong to assume that I can boot from USB into the installer regardless of the currrent partitioning of my HDD?
[10:08] <rdw200169> the-newsman: not 'necessarily'… sometimes it works, sometimes it don't ;)  heck, even ubuntu packages generally have to be massaged by someone to work on ubuntu, even tho Debian is what Ubuntu is generally based off of (most Ubuntu packages originate from Debian)
[10:08] <nerdtron> VigilanteP, you can boot to USB even without hard drives
[10:09] <RandomLinuxUser> I have got a lot of usefull .html files (i.e. in directories like /usr/share/docs). Is there a way to search trought them with some kind of a search engine for my web browser ? ( Something like google/duckduckgo for my local html documentations )
[10:09] <nerdtron> RandomLinuxUser, what do you want to search in them?
[10:09] <VigilanteP> nerdtron: Yes, but it seems to be failing due to the state of the HD.  But I don't know what "live file system" means
[10:10] <nerdtron> how did you say it is failing dur to the state of the HD?
[10:10] <RandomLinuxUser> nerdtron: Texts and patterns. All the stuff which is already on my disk, like how-to's and tutorials. Some kind of a fallback-internet
[10:11] <VigilanteP> nerdtron: I had no idea what to do to the disk but thought the installer would guide it along, at least the instructions on the ubuntu site seem to suggest it\
[10:11] <nerdtron> RandomLinuxUser, you can use grep to search those docs
[10:11] <rdw200169> RandomLinuxUser: are you against searching in the command line?
[10:12] <rdw200169> RandomLinuxUser: you could use a oneshot as simple as $ egrep -r '<regex>' /usr/share/docs/
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> RandomLinuxUser  try this in the html dolder       grep -r "blah" *
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> folder*
[10:12] <RandomLinuxUser> rdw200169: no but i prefer to have everything in my browser. And grep gives me too much output
[10:12] <nerdtron> VigilanteP, so you have booted into live USB and you can't open your hard drives? is that it?
[10:12] <RandomLinuxUser> and grep dont use cache. It searches everytime in realtime
[10:13] <VigilanteP> nerdtron:  I think I downloaded the wrong iso...  This is the one for dual boot with windows isn't it.. :/
[10:13] <rdw200169> RandomLinuxUser: heh, now you're getting into what Lucene/Solr/elasticsearch solves …
[10:13] <Ludovik> I'm a little confused re: packages. Would the same packages work on Xubuntu and Lubuntu if I wanted to try both LXDE and XFCE? Sorry, just made the switch.
[10:14] <RandomLinuxUser> rdw200169: ty, i will take a look at these
[10:14] <DJones> Ludovik: Yes they should do, the packages for both will come from the same repositories
[10:14] <VigilanteP> nerdtron:  Wait am I even in the right place
[10:14] <ObrienDave> Ludovik==> up to a point. you would need both lxde and xfce desktop support
[10:15] <nerdtron> VigilanteP, i'm not sure about that :)
[10:15] <Ludovik> So I'd install the whole desktop packages eh? So I might need both Xubuntu and Lubuntu.
[10:15] <VigilanteP> nerdtron:  Ubuntu does NOT require windows correct... I mean, i thought I was pretty sure about that
[10:16] <rdw200169> nerdtron: it absolutely does not.  That would be a violation of Bug 1
[10:16] <nerdtron> VigilanteP, yes, It does not requrie windows. but even if was able to boot into USB, you may still not be able to access your hard drives in the file manager
[10:16] <Ludovik> I really just wanted to see what the UI for XFCE looks like and try it without having to install 10,000 packages that seem to come with Xubuntu.
[10:17] <rdw200169> nerdtron: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
[10:17] <nerdtron> rdw200169, I'm not the one asking
[10:18] <nerdtron> VigilanteP, if you hard drive partitions are corrupted, you won't be able to access them
[10:18] <rdw200169> nerdtron: well played… VigilanteP: all that stuff I just said to nerdtron
[10:19] <VigilanteP> nerdtron:  I'm just trying to do a pure Ubuntu install on this, have no experience whatsoever, as may have noticed... but it specifically fails because it doesn't detect windows.  I'm just not sure how to get one that doesnt presume windows
[10:19] <VigilanteP> rdw200169:  I played well?  Thank you!
[10:19] <_jordan_> I found the problem, nouveau can't run on my graphic card, that's why I can't run the ubuntu installation. Can I blacklist nouveau for the installation an use the nvidia driver
[10:19] <VigilanteP> rdw200169:  I try to stay competitive
[10:20] <rdw200169> VigilanteP: actually nerdtron did insofar that he called me out; regardless, you may be on the wrong iso ;)
[10:20] <VigilanteP> ndw200169:  Oh i'm certain of that
[10:21] <Ludovik> Ah. I was able to install XFCE independently of the desktop package.
[10:21] <VigilanteP> ndw200169:  I didn't read clearly.. or .. at all apparently, and just grabbed the one marked "Developer" because it sounded like it would come with some fun tools
[10:21] <rdw200169> VigilanteP: you should have burned ubuntu-XX.XX-desktop-amd64.iso to a CD
[10:22] <VigilanteP> rdw200169:  Why would that result in anything different?
[10:22] <rdw200169> VigilanteP: the XX.XX is the version of ubuntu you want (i.e. 12.04, 12.04.3, 12.10, 13.04, etc…)
[10:22] <SupaYoshi> Hello
[10:23] <rdw200169> VigilanteP: well, I suppose that can be answered with another question: what ISO did you burn?
[10:23] <SupaYoshi> Ive a partition (3TB) of a disk, and its a NTFS partition, however the write speed in linux is around 20 MB a second, how can I improve the write performance? And if nesscary can I convert to ext4?
[10:23] <Skizu> anyone able to help me with phpDocumentor?
[10:24] <VigilanteP> rdw200169:  Yeah, I understand versioning.  I just didn't read enough of the text on the page I was downloading from because I thought I knew what I was doing a lot better than I really did
[10:24] <VigilanteP> rdw200169:  ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64
[10:24] <ObrienDave> Ludovik==> if you want to see XFCE just run the live Xubuntu DVD without installing
[10:24] <Ludovik> I just installed XFCE from the Synaptic Package Manager. Seems to work fine.
[10:25] <DJones> SupaYoshi: As far as I know, there's no way to convert from NTFS to EXT4 without backing up & reformatting
[10:25] <SupaYoshi> awesome np then :)
[10:25] <VigilanteP> rdw200169:  It mentions "the windows logo", but I thought that was just for the sake of people knowing it woul work on their hardware
[10:25] <SupaYoshi> DJones: No way to improve the write performance either?
[10:25] <VigilanteP> rdw200169:  Basically I don't know what I want
[10:26] <DJones> SupaYoshi: Not sure about that, hopefully somebody else can help you on that point
[10:26] <VigilanteP> rdw200169:  So I'm going to go back to basics and do some research, thanks for your help
[10:26] <SupaYoshi> ah ok, well i just noticed that my samba shares with ntfs-3g are 20 MB a second, and ext4 are 100 MB a second ore more
[10:26] <SupaYoshi> so im switching
[10:27] <Skizu> Hey I'm using phpDocumentor and I'm getting a unserialization failed message and nothing more, anyone know how I can get any details as no error files appear to be made? Getting the error [Exception]   Unserialization failed,   [Zend\Serializer\Exception\RuntimeException]   Unserialization failed
[10:27] <rdw200169> VigilanteP: no worries; just note that you can install ubuntu lots of ways; one of them is within Windows via WUBI: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-with-windows; You can also install it alongside windows or run it from a VM (VMWare, VirtualBox, etc...)
[10:28] <TNTS> Just finished setting up Ubuntu 13.04
[10:30] <Skizu> Appears I may have a pear issue
[10:31] <TNTS> Guys, what's a good YouTube Video Downloader/Converter
[10:31] <rdw200169> Ludovik: also, you can use tasksel from the terminal to just pick the XFCE and LXCE tasks (much easier and should catch ancillary dependencies)
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> TNTS  youtube-dl to download, winff to convert
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> TNTS  or minitube to download
[10:35] <TNTS> Is All Video Downloader free? It seems to be highly rated in the Software Center
[10:39] <VigilanteP> rdw200169:  Hey, got up for a sec... I specifically don't want windows on this machine at all.. I wanted to try out Ubuntu because it has limited space both in memory and on disk, how do you usually go about starting from a blank disk and getting to a working Ubuntu install without Windows getting involved
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> TNTS: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/allvideodownloader/
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> TNTS: so, yes
[10:40] <[Gentoo]> VigilanteP: format the drive
[10:40] <[Gentoo]> then install ubuntu
[10:40] <ubu_> hi
[10:40] <ubu_> temperature VGA 65C  , its ok?
[10:40] <TNTS> ActionParsnip" So.. is it okay?
[10:41] <TNTS> ubu_,  I think its okay as long as its under 80c but that's just me.
[10:41] <VigilanteP> Haha... you made it so simple.. But what FS do i use,  how do i partition it, and I can't seem to find ISO's that are independent of Windows unless I'm just blind or losing my mind
[10:41] <[Gentoo]> VigilanteP: use ext4, the ubuntu installer should guide you through all that
[10:42] <VigilanteP> I have ~0 experience outside of Windows
[10:42] <john_john> Does anyone know where I can find and install the aurorae theme manager?
[10:42] <john_john> engine*
[10:43] <MonkeyDust> VigilanteP  ALL distro's are independent of windows
[10:44] <VigilanteP> Just was curious if it was possible for an OS to not use 2GB of ram just by nature of it's existence :)
[10:44] <VigilanteP> There was a boot issue so I used UBCD, stumbled into PartedMagic, which I thought had an impressive amount of function for it
[10:44] <VigilanteP> it's memory footprint
[10:44] <VigilanteP> and thought maybe it was time to try something new, but I don't know where to begin
[10:45] <VigilanteP> Ok, then I just don't know what to do at the command line to actually install it
[10:45] <VigilanteP> wait....
[10:45] <VigilanteP> Yeah, just had to make sure.  No clue
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: use LXDE as DE and OpenBox as WM and it will use very few resources
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> VigilanteP  burn iso to dvd or usb - boot from dvd or usb - install ubuntu
[10:46] <[Gentoo]> download ubuntu
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: or ditch the DE altogether and just use OpenBox
[10:46] <[Gentoo]> burn it to a disc, boot from the disc
[10:46] <[Gentoo]> VigilanteP: then you can choose install ubuntu from there, there should be an option to wipe the entire drive
[10:46] <[Gentoo]> which is the one you want
[10:46] <[Gentoo]> VigilanteP: how much memory does your computer have
[10:46] <FloodBot1> [Gentoo]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:46] <[Gentoo]> VigilanteP: what windows are you running at the moment?
[10:46] <VigilanteP> actionParsnip: It won't boot into the installer, it leaves me at a shell that I don't know how to use becaues of lack of windows
[10:46] <VigilanteP> [Gentoo]: No windows
[10:47] <VigilanteP> thats the problem i think
[10:47] <VigilanteP> Or at least with booting into this particular iso
[10:47] <VigilanteP> I'm booting it out of the UBCD menu, could that be causing an issue?
[10:47] <[Gentoo]> VigilanteP: you might have downloaded the wrong installer .iso
[10:48] <SupaYoshi> Hi im trying to mount my ext4 partition, but i cant get it to work. Im using the following line: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk1 ext4 defaults 0 0
[10:48] <[Gentoo]> VigilanteP: go to http://www.lubuntu.net/
[10:48] <[Gentoo]> try downloading the first iso
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> VigilanteP  i guess you have the server installer, that's no desktop live iso
[10:48] <[Gentoo]> what is ubcd
[10:48] <iceroot_> is there a tool to monitor the traffic on a specific device for a specific time-window (including reboots in that window)
[10:48] <gordonjcp> SupaYoshi: you don't need all the crap at the end
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: did you downlod the server ISO per chance?
[10:48] <VigilanteP> Ultimate Boot CD
[10:48] <gordonjcp> SupaYoshi: just sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk1
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> [Gentoo]: ultimate boot cd is awesome
[10:48] <SupaYoshi> gordonjcp: thank! testing
[10:49] <SupaYoshi> thanks...
[10:49] <VigilanteP> ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64
[10:49] <VigilanteP> is what I grabbed
[10:49] <SupaYoshi> coming from ntfs thnx ;)
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: ok good start, what GPU do you use>?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: and do you use that Optimus crap?
[10:49] <[Gentoo]> SupaYoshi: do it without the defaults 0 0 line
[10:49] <SupaYoshi> but with ext4?
[10:50] <BullShark> what's the way to disable a service from auto starting on boot in ubuntu?
[10:50] <VigilanteP> ActionParsnip:  It's an old piece of shit Compaq laptop
[10:50] <VigilanteP> integrated intel graphics
[10:50] <VigilanteP> but it assures me it will provide smooth HD playback
[10:50] <[Gentoo]> SupaYoshi: thats for fstab
[10:50] <[Gentoo]> ActionParsnip: o i heard of it
[10:50] <[Gentoo]> i thought the UB might have been something to do with ubuntu
[10:50] <[Gentoo]> VigilanteP: make sure your comp is 64 bit
[10:50] <[Gentoo]> SupaYoshi: "mount" on its own will try to detect the filesystem
[10:50] <[Gentoo]> VigilanteP: good luck
[10:50] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: "defaults 0 0" is to be put in fstab not passed to "mount", you've got confused somewhere along the line
[10:50] <VigilanteP> it is 64 bit'
[10:51] <VigilanteP> I'm new to linux, not to the world of computers :)
[10:51] <SupaYoshi> ah but wait
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: intel gpu?
[10:51] <SupaYoshi> Im goign to be using this in fstab!
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: does the system have a make and model?
[10:51] <VigilanteP> ActionParsnip:  I'm afraid so
[10:51] <VigilanteP> ActionParsnip:  Probably
[10:52] <VigilanteP> ActionParsnip:  (im finding it)
[10:52] <SupaYoshi> Hey what line would I use for /etc/fstab? /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk1/ ext4 defaults 0 0
[10:52] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Exactly that, yes
[10:53] <SupaYoshi> well okay going to try again, that wouldnt work before.
[10:53] <[Gentoo]> SupaYoshi: thats fine
[10:53] <[Gentoo]> but
[10:53] <[Gentoo]> SupaYoshi: dont put mount in fstab
[10:53] <[Gentoo]> SupaYoshi: for fstab the line would be: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk1 ext4 defaults 0 0
[10:53] <[Gentoo]> yea
[10:53] <SupaYoshi> But okay! :) testing.
[10:53] <VigilanteP> Compaq Presario CQ 60
[10:53] <VigilanteP> Model: CQ60-615X
[10:53] <VigilanteP> Model: CQ60-615DX
[10:53] <VigilanteP> excuse me
[10:54] <VigilanteP> I swear the font for the important info on the bottom of this thing is smaller than the text those asian men write on grains of rice
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: yep, intel gpu
[10:54] <VigilanteP> yes
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | VigilanteP
[10:55] <KevinLi> #ubuntuphone
[10:55] <VigilanteP> hmm... not exactly my problem but I'll see what happpens
[10:55] <VigilanteP> I have a functioning command line, I just don't know what to do tell it to do
[10:55] <SupaYoshi> mhm im getting permisison denied now when I try to create a folder on the mounted volume?
[10:55] <BullShark> what's the way to disable a service from auto starting on boot in ubuntu?
[10:56] <SupaYoshi> as a normal user.. with root it goes well , but i wonder how samba will handle that.
[10:56] <blinky_ghost> at
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: the CD should boot to a GUI
[10:56] <VigilanteP> ActionParsnip:  That article isn't about my problem
[10:56] <VigilanteP> it does boot to GUI
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: ok, so what is the issue?
[10:57] <xteam> hi
[10:57] <VigilanteP> then gets mad that windows isn't there, but I don't see any iso's that don't requrie windows, and i don't know what to do at this command line
[10:57] <VigilanteP> (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system aka windows
[10:58] <VigilanteP> I don't have windows, or want it, I just want ubuntu on this computer
[10:58] <BullShark> what's the way to disable a service from auto starting on boot in ubuntu?
[10:59] <TNTS> Just a quickie about this IRC, is this Ubuntu only or is this for Ubuntu-based distros too?
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> TNTS  ubuntu only
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> TNTS  type /topic
[11:00] <TNTS> Okay :)
[11:00] <VigilanteP> This can't be that hard can it?  It seems like the site is catering specificially to windows dual booters and doesn't say much about how to do it otherwise
[11:00] <TNTS> Ah I forgot my bad.
[11:01] <john_john> Can't you just boot from the live cd and install it? It requires windows to be installed?
[11:01] <mydevilroot> Hello, i have very serious problem with my ubuntu, could anyone help me ?
[11:01] <VigilanteP> I'm gonna try to pull it out of the UBCD
[11:02] <VigilanteP> That's the only possible reason that we have this confusion
[11:02] <lasers> mydevilroot: Yes and no. You have to tell us what it is and if we know, we help you.
[11:02] <john_john> Does anyone know how I can install aurorae based themes?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: you dont need windows, you can install ubuntu as the sole OS
[11:03] <TNTS> How do I remove the Ubuntu One System Tray icon?
[11:03] <codephobic> hi
[11:03] <ikonia> john_john: aurorae into what ?
[11:03] <VigilanteP> What is initramfs?  Should that be running even?  Why does it care if windows is there
[11:03] <VigilanteP> ok then it must be UBCD
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[11:03] <TNTS> Okay nevermind.
[11:03] <john_john> ikonia: kde
[11:03] <VigilanteP> Yeah
[11:03] <ikonia> john_john: what's not clear
[11:03] <[Gentoo]> VigilanteP: it loads stuff before the kernel
[11:03] <VigilanteP> UBCD?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: how did you burn the CD? If you put the CD into a system with an OS do you see lots of files, or just one?
[11:04] <ikonia> VigilanteP: ubcd is nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:04] <VigilanteP> Yeah i know
[11:04] <VigilanteP> but it lets you boot from other iso's
[11:04] <john_john> ikonia: I want to install these fancy window border themes from kde-look.org but it says that I need the aurorae theme engine for them to work.
[11:04] <ikonia> ok, so what's the question ?
[11:04] <codephobic> Is anyone else finding ubuntu 13.04 very unstable and buggy? I keep getting crashes - to various services - whenever I boot up into Ubuntu 13.04.
[11:04] <VigilanteP> like a custom boot menu
[11:04] <VigilanteP> But i think that's why it's failing
[11:04] <VigilanteP> lol
[11:04] <codephobic> I've never had such a buggy/unstable Ubuntu before
[11:04] <codephobic> can't even recall a Linux this buggy since RedHat 7.4
[11:04] <ikonia> codephobic: what services ?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: me neither but my needs are simple :)
[11:05] <ikonia> VigilanteP: how does this relate to ubuntu ?
[11:05] <VigilanteP> I'll do it the proper way instead, I just thought UBCD was widely known and you'd all be familiar with it
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> codephobic: Jaunty was a bit of a mess
[11:05] <VigilanteP> Because I'm trying to install ubuntu
[11:05] <john_john> codephobic: yes and yes
[11:05] <ikonia> VigilanteP: ok so how does ubcd relate to this ?
[11:05] <gordonjcp> codephobic: what specifically are you having problems with?
[11:05] <VigilanteP> Because I only have one thumb drive
[11:05] <[Gentoo]> apt-cache search aurora
[11:05] <[Gentoo]> look for engines-aurora or similar
[11:05] <VigilanteP> And need both
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> VigilanteP: you don't need the UBCD, the install CD can do all the partitioning you can want
[11:05] <VigilanteP> I know
[11:05] <codephobic> ikonia, various different services from gtk apport to blueman-applet (dunno what the hell that does - bluetooth?)
[11:05] <[Gentoo]> codephobic: whats the problem
[11:06] <ikonia> codephobic: how do you know they are crashing (can you give a little background/detail please)
[11:06] <mydevilroot> lasers:  my compiz is broken, it happens when my system do update of kernel to 2.8.0.x version, and grub update. I format my pc, it was okay, but after the next autoupdate is broken again. Also with the nevest kernel it's getting stuck.
[11:06] <codephobic> right now (this specific instance), the applet concerned is "blueman-applet"
[11:06] <VigilanteP> I was using it to do diagnostics and then decided to try ubuntu, judging by how simple you all are saying it is I should be talking to the UBCD guys and not you
[11:06] <VigilanteP> so maybe I came to the wrong place
[11:06] <VigilanteP> sorry lo
[11:06] <ikonia> no problem
[11:06] <codephobic> ikonia, I just rebooted my system (upgrades) and logged in and ... ubuntu crash warning...
[11:07] <codephobic> I usually see atleast 2-3 such warnings (for various services), whenever I reboot.
[11:07] <[Gentoo]> the joys of updating
[11:08] <ikonia> codephobic: I appreciate this may not be a fix now, but it's worth noting down which servcices are failing/applets are failing, seeing if it's all the same ones, and then we can address them
[11:08] <ikonia> (address them as a problem)
[11:08] <VigilanteP> If this means anything to you guys here, this is the config file used for the UBCD custom iso boot i used with ubuntu
[11:08] <VigilanteP> LABEL -
[11:08] <VigilanteP> MENU LABEL Ubuntu
[11:08] <VigilanteP> TEXT HELP
[11:08] <VigilanteP>  Ubuntu Desktop 13.04 x64
[11:08] <FloodBot1> VigilanteP: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:08] <lasers> mydevilroot: Try reboot and select older kernel to see if it still work or broke. I don't use compiz so I can't really help you. :D
[11:08] <john_john> hmm, nothing happened. For instance, what do I need to install to be able to install this theme? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Tenuto-Oxygen+Aurorae+theme?content=156267 I have the KDE DE
[11:08] <ikonia> VigilanteP: please, this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:08] <mydevilroot> old kernel also brokes my system, only way is make format
[11:09] <codephobic> I do have a slightly complicated setup. I have multiple VMs running, I have apache and mysql running as background daemons, as well as running from some of the vms, I have various network shares setup as well ... so I expect some instability, just that this volume is really surprising.
[11:09] <VigilanteP> Just wanted to see if that looked like anything to anyone
[11:09] <lasers> mydevilroot: Have you tried uninstalling compiz?
[11:09] <ObrienDave> VigilanteP==> please use pastebin for such things. thanks
[11:09] <ikonia> codephobic: your description does not sound complicated
[11:09] <VigilanteP> I was just curious if those commands meant anything to you guys, and we'd already established a dialogue.. sorry for speaking outside of the demarcation :/
[11:09] <VigilanteP> yeah
[11:09] <VigilanteP> ok I've bothered you all enough
[11:10] <ikonia> codephobic: and there is no reason to suspect that would cause instability, that's quite a standard setup
[11:10] <codephobic> ikonia, I'll try and make a note of them. They aren't preventing me from actually doing my work (most of the time), but I'm just bemused by the bugginess of this particular iteration of ubuntu.
[11:10] <VigilanteP> Thanks for the help
[11:10] <mydevilroot> lasers:  I read the tutorials on the web I found, but It's not working properly
[11:10] <ikonia> codephobic: make a note - see if it's always the same ones, then we can work out if they are related and work on fixing them
[11:10] <lasers> mydevilroot: What tutorial? Link, please.
[11:11] <mydevilroot> lasers:  W8 please a second, I will open my second computer to find it
[11:11] <codephobic> ikonia, most of the crashes centre around the actual gui update program... for weeks since I moved to 13.04, the gui would crash or completely fail to show (I normally use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade)
[11:12] <codephobic> but now that - usually - works, when the system has updates to do
[11:12] <ikonia> codephobic: moved to 13.04....from what ?
[11:12] <codephobic> right now, the crash symbol is displaying on the notification area but I can't actually get the crash report to come up. lol - the crash report app has crashed.
[11:12] <codephobic> ikonia, from 12.10
[11:13] <codephobic> I've been upgrading, rather than reinstalling, since ubuntu 10.04.
[11:13] <lasers> mydevilroot: I have to go and bike ride with my friend. Apologies. (You probably don't need compiz and there are a good chance that your tutorial is old and outdated and possibly not compatible for Unity.)
[11:14] <ikonia> codephobic: it's possible some left over stuff may cause a problem, especially if you've gone from 10.04 to 13.04 !
[11:15] <codephobic> ikonia, not directly lol, I mean 10.4 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 -> 12.04
[11:15] <ikonia> codephobic: still that's a LOT of upgrades with significant changes, especially around the disply/gnome versions/config
[11:16] <codephobic> ikonia, I just wanted to avoid having to set things up all from scratch, again.
[11:16] <ikonia> codephobic: I can appreciate that, however that upgrade path in my opinion is not a good route.
[11:16] <ikonia> codephobic: others may disagree,
[11:17] <codephobic> ikonia, the most confusing thing is that this instability isn't something that's been "growing" over upgrades, but specific to the jump from 11.10 to 12.04.
[11:17] <ikonia> codephobic: I don't think it would grow, it just needs to create something that conflicts/causes a problem and it's there
[11:18] <codephobic> true, I've read other people having issues between upgrades and I can appreciate that there have been big changes in the foundations of the software over the last two upgrades.
[11:20] <judahlion> hej, I have a question. Can I use the ati legacy driver 13.1 on ubuntu distros older than 12.04?  If not, are there linux distros that have that driver preinstalled? To install it on 12.04 you have to downgrade the kernel, so I'm looking for an easier way..
[11:20] <codephobic> ikonia, is there a safe way to copy over settings and "profile" data between installations of ubuntu? specifically I want to have my keyboard shortcuts, my file-associations (ofcourse I will have to reinstall the apps), my headless servers and my fstab and bash aliases ...
[11:21] <ikonia> codephobic: sure sure, most things can be copied across, it just depends how you've set them how you'll move them over
[11:21] <codephobic> otherwise I'll have to spend 3-4 hours just reconfiguring all these little files
[11:21] <testerer> i need an app to automount usb drives when they're plugged in, as I have a minimalist ubuntu raring installation which doesn't have automounting.
[11:21] <codephobic> I keep back-up copies of my fstab, various apache configs etc etc ... but I have no idea where to get the keyboard short-cuts
[11:21] <testerer> What's the easiest way to achieve automouting without installing an entire desktop environment
[11:21] <ikonia> testerer: then you don't want a minmal install, you want more
[11:21] <ikonia> testerer: install dbus/automounter,
[11:22] <codephobic> and the file-preferences also seem to be gui based.
[11:22] <codephobic> I would love a "profile transfer" tool ...
[11:22] <ikonia> codephobic: yeah, tha part should be do-able, but how, I'd need to research
[11:23] <codephobic> generally speaking though, do you find 13.04 a little more buggy?
[11:24] <codephobic> there's no point in doing a fresh install if I'm still going to be dealing with a higher number of bugs and crashes than in previous ubuntus....
[11:25] <ObrienDave> codephobic==> there is if most of the bugs are caused by older distro files
[11:26] <codephobic> ObrienDave, hmm I can't honestly say whether or not the majority of my crashes are a result of legacy files.
[11:26] <codephobic> when I've looked online, I've seen most advise a clean-install,
[11:27] <codephobic> but I've been reluctant because of the laziness about spending ages with setting up my configuration again.
[11:27] <ObrienDave> codephobic==> that usually works best. hence the clean install advise. lol know the feeling
[11:27] <codephobic> I'll do it, because I'm starting to feel irritated by the bugs now, but ... last resort.
[11:28] <judahlion> can someone help me with the following question? Can I use the ati legacy driver 13.1 on ubuntu distros older than 12.04?  If not, are there linux distros that have that driver preinstalled? To install it on 12.04 you have to downgrade the kernel, so I'm looking for an easier way..
[11:28] <codephobic> k, well I guess I'll have to bite that bullet.
[11:28] <ObrienDave> that's why i stick with Xubuntu. seems to be less problems. just my 2 cents
[11:28] <codephobic> thanks guys :)
[11:29] <codephobic> I have to say, I'm amazed at how much having a place like this helps me keep from just leaving ubuntu in frustration.
[11:30] <ObrienDave> codephobic==> everyone here appreciates your comments. thanks
[11:32] <ObrienDave> judahlion==> is there any reason you do not want to upgrade to 13.04?
[11:32] <Laurenceb> hi
[11:33] <Laurenceb> can someone help me out with printers?
[11:33] <Laurenceb> i need to scan a network for print servers
[11:33] <Laurenceb> can anyone help me out?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: you can use the printer set up app, or nmap
[11:33] <ObrienDave> Laurenceb==> just ask the question, please
 i used to have a printer setup via a print server
[11:34] <Laurenceb> can't see anything now
[11:34] <Laurenceb> its on a windows network
[11:34] <Laurenceb> "Printing- localhost" says it isnt connected
[11:34] <Laurenceb> something seem wrong
[11:35] <Laurenceb> i clearly have network access
[11:36] <ObrienDave> see ActionParsnip's response. network printers are not my forte. sorry
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: so, connected to a Windows system and shared?
[11:37] <TNTS> Hi, how do I open WinFF? I saw screenshots of it being on a UI but I get nothing when I search for it
[11:37] <Laurenceb> tried restarting cups
[11:37] <Laurenceb> no luck there
[11:37] <judahlion> ObrienDave: yes, the ati legacy driver 13.1 has problemes with unity in ubuntu 13.04
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> TNTS: press ALT+F2 and run it
 maybe
[11:38] <Laurenceb> i dont know the first thing about this
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: you need to clarify that first
[11:38] <Laurenceb> right
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: does the printer sit no its own or does it have a USB cable connected to a PC?
[11:38] <wodim> does ubuntu 9.04 clean /tmp on startup ?
[11:38] <Laurenceb> its a commercial system and theres no staff about :-/
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> wodim: Jaunty is EOL
 printer connects to the network
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: you can still check if its connected to a PC via USB
[11:38] <wodim> ActionParsnip: that's not the question i asked
[11:39] <Laurenceb> there is a server in a locked cupboard i cant access
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> wodim: the release is offtopic here as it is EOL
[11:39] <TNTS> ActionParsnip: I got nothing. It says in the Software Center that I have it installed but its not opening
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> wodim: thus mooting your question
[11:39] <ubuntuenth> guys, how do i make apt-get to install suggested (not recommended) packages by default?
 printer connects to the server via the network
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> TNTS: try from terminal
[11:39] <wodim> Ignoring ALL from ActionParsnip
[11:39] <jrib> ubuntuenth: man apt_preferences  probabyl explains; don't know offhand
 its some kind of proprietory epson system
[11:39] <TNTS> What command would I use? ActionParsnip
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: then print a test page from it either via the printer itself or from a system with it configured
[11:40] <Laurenceb> i cant access anything
[11:40] <Laurenceb> hmm this isnt going to go well
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> TNTS: type:  win    then press TAB a few times
[11:40] <Laurenceb> so annoying
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: the printer will be able to print a config page
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: and you can touch the printer, right
[11:40] <Laurenceb> ok lets start with simple stuff first
[11:40] <Laurenceb> ActionParsnip: its locked down with RFID
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: you just need the printer's IP
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> wodim  what ActionParsnip says is this: you can no longer ask for help for 9.04, you're on your own
[11:41] <Laurenceb> all i can do is print to it
[11:41] <ObrienDave> wodim==> meaning 9.04 is not supported anymore
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: what is teh make and model of the printer?
[11:41] <Laurenceb> ok lets start with simple stuff first why does the print app say "not connected"
[11:41] <TNTS> ActionParsnip, it opens up but when I lock it to the launcher and try to execute it, it doesn't open
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> wodim: so not ignore, right
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: because its not physically conected, its a netork priner
 thats not going to help, its an epson running custom firmware
[11:42] <wodim> ok. does the last supported version clean /tmp on startup?
[11:42] <john_john> how can I check which version of gtk/kde I have?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: an epson what?
 the printer can only talk to the server
[11:42] <Laurenceb> its not going to talk to me
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: ok then is it shared on a server PC?
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> wodim  you can use a cron task to do it, or move /tmp to tmpfs
 yes
[11:42] <wodim> MonkeyDust: that means it's not done automatically?
[11:42] <jrib> ubuntuenth: actually, you probably want to see "man apt.conf" and drop APT::Install-Suggests "1"; in one of your apt.conf files
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> wodim  idd
[11:43] <ObrienDave> wodim==> not sure about that. most OSes dont clean /tmp
 my first problem is that the printer app is saying "not connected"
[11:43] <Laurenceb> what could cause this
[11:43] <kernel32> hi all
[11:43] <Laurenceb> i think this is part of the problem
[11:44] <ObrienDave> Laurenceb==> could be a network problem altogether
 yeah maybe
[11:44] <Laurenceb> theres no staff in this place :-/
[11:44] <Laurenceb> the voip phones dont work
[11:44] <Laurenceb> thats not a good sign
[11:45] <ObrienDave> Laurenceb==> We have the same type of system where I work. no network, no connections peroid
[11:46] <Laurenceb> hmm ill have to try and find a network admin :-/
[11:47] <ObrienDave> Laurenceb==> yup, you'll have to find an IT god to reboot the system
[11:47] <mohamedn3na3a> question: how can i check my network manager for errors?any help?
[11:48] <kelly> hi guys, can i ask here about Ubuntu 13.04 ?
[11:48] <ObrienDave> yes you can
[11:48] <kelly> sorry i mean 13.10
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> kelly  in #ubuntu+1
[11:49] <DJones> kelly: #ubuntu+1 for 13.10
[11:49] <ObrienDave> oops, not released yet
[11:49] <kelly> thanx
[11:50] <kiwitinker> what is an easy way to find out what version you have when you have forgotten?
[11:50] <DJones> !version | kiwitinker
[11:50] <kiwitinker> thanks
[11:50] <ObrienDave> all questions should be so easy. lol
[11:52] <kiwitinker> i got syntax error on that
[11:54] <gueney> Hi guys, what are the security-related dangers of not having "-nolisten tcp" as your X paramters? I understand that most distros add it by default due to security reasons however I need Xserver listen to some TCP port but am unsure about the security risks
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: can you ping the print server pc?
 i dont know its ip
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: then ask an admin
[11:55] <ObrienDave> kiwitinker==> lsb_release -a
[11:55] <Laurenceb> im the only person in the building :-/
[11:55] <Laurenceb> funtimes
[11:55] <kiwitinker> thanks does not seem to work with lubuntu
[11:56] <ObrienDave> kiwitinker==> ask in #lubuntu
[11:57] <kron0s> lol
[11:57] <slaveo> hello guys
[11:57] <kiwitinker> ok, did not think  something as basic as that would vary between ubuntu and lubuntu
[11:58] <slaveo> i wish u r doing good guys
[11:58] <ObrienDave> it works in Xubuntu
[11:58] <ObrienDave> that's what i'm running
[11:58] <slaveo> so i just need help
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: then you are stumped, unless you nmap your network to try and find it
[11:59] <DJones> kiwitinker: Can you pastebin the error message you get when you run the command
 im wondering if my CUPS is broken
[11:59] <Laurenceb> nothing at localhist:631
[11:59] <Androdid> kkkds
[11:59] <Laurenceb> *host
[12:00] <slaveo> any one help me pleaz
[12:00] <kiwitinker> sorry it does work just did not notice the space in front of -a
[12:00] <ObrienDave> slaveo==> please ask the question
[12:00] <Laurenceb> wtf
[12:00] <slaveo> i just installed cinnamon theme to my ubuntu 12.04 while i got it i just receive this error message (Cinnamon just crashed. You are currently running in Fallback Mode)
[12:00] <Laurenceb> sudo service cups restart  and theres nothing
[12:01] <bazhang> slaveo, installed cinnamon from where
[12:01] <slaveo> ?
[12:02] <Laurenceb> should i try to reinstall CUPS?
[12:02] <slaveo> bazhang what u meant ?
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> slaveo  where did you get cinnamon for 12.04?
[12:03] <slaveo> i searched it on the site
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> !info cinnamon precise
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> !info cinnamon raring
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> slaveo: you may find a PPA but we cannot support packages from PPAs here
[12:03] <ObrienDave> you can get cinnamon through synaptic
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> ObrienDave: not in Precise
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> ObrienDave  not yet in 12.04
[12:04] <slaveo> u meant that isnot compatible wi th ubuntu 12.04
[12:04] <ObrienDave> LOL and they wonder why it crashes
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> slaveo: its just not in the official repos
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> slaveo: you can get the old style desktop by installing gnome-panel and logging off
[12:05] <IamTrying> Why Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit from official website download always changing its kernel? It was stable and now the latest download link is the broken kernel.
[12:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> IamTrying: 3.2 or 3.5?
[12:06] <IamTrying> ActionParsnip, 3.5 is not anymore available in main download. ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso  (is now to download which has latest kernel) and the stable was ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[12:06] <IamTrying> ActionParsnip, now the download is adding 3.8 which is breaking my hdmi/dvi outputs and also it has problem with some dependency when i needed to install openjdk
[12:07] <slaveo> so which one is compatible and how can i find a cool desktop to my ubuntu 12.04
[12:07] <IamTrying> ActionParsnip, ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso  which is 3.8 is very very very bad version not stable it crashed over and over and i reinstalled back to 3.5 now
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> slaveo  'cool' is a matter of taste, start by installing some different !themes
[12:08] <nyuszika7h> hi, how can I execute "xset b 100" when Xorg is started? the bell is set to 50% volume by default, which is annoying.
[12:08] <duoi> hi all. how can i connect to my vpn from the terminal?
[12:09] <lid6j86> i had issues with Ubuntu 12.04 and multiple monitors so i moved to 13.04 and it's been working a lot better
[12:09] <slaveo> ok thnks guys
[12:09] <lid6j86> i still have issues when monitors are connected to multiple gfx cards but i just moved them all to a single one  (4 monitors)
[12:18] <litecoin> yes
[12:19] <hxm> hello
[12:19] <hxm> why this http://pastebin.com/tmcrygK4
[12:20] <geirha> nyuszika7h: how soon? at the login manager? or would after logging in suffice?
[12:20] <litecoin2> what's wrong with it?
[12:20] <hxm> i want to format it as ntfs
[12:20] <hxm> and it appears system linux
[12:21] <nyuszika7h> geirha: after logging in would probably be enough, as I only use the bell for the terminal
[12:21] <nyuszika7h> even when just starting the terminal might work, but if there's a better solution...
[12:21] <geirha> Then Startup Applications
[12:21] <ActionPa1snip> hxm: you'll need Windows to format NTFS
[12:22] <hxm> oh
[12:22] <k5673> hxm: It seems you didn't set the filesystem type
[12:22] <hxm> k5673: I used mkfs.ntfs -f /dev/sdb1
[12:22] <ActionPa1snip> hxm: think about what NTFS is, and it's licensing...
[12:22] <hxm> so I can read/write ntfs but not create partitions
[12:22] <hxm> is that?
[12:23] <litecoin2> You can format ntfs from within linux too
[12:23] <k5673> hxm: When you use fdisk/cfdisk to create the partition, search for Type and set it to '07'
[12:23] <hxm> ah, I missed that
[12:23] <ActionPa1snip> hxm: yes, the creation will need doing in Windows
[12:23] <k5673> hxm: Let me show you with a screenshot
[12:24] <ActionPa1snip> litecoin2: i wouldnt suggest it. NTFS is still proprietary so subtle differences between the data in the Linux formatted partition and the Windows format
[12:24] <ActionPa1snip> litecoin2: may be significant
[12:25] <ActionPa1snip> hxm: is the storage to be used in Windows systems as well as Linux?
[12:25] <litecoin2> ActionPalsnip: I used ntfs formatted within linux for years and it was fine.
[12:25] <k5673> hxm: http://uploadpie.com/SAFrH
[12:26] <litecoin2> It was more reliable than using ext3 on windows
[12:26] <hxm> ah, done!
[12:26] <hxm> thanks k5673
[12:27] <ActionPa1snip> litecoin2: i wouldnt suggest it personally.
[12:27] <k5673> litecoin2 ActionPa1snip hxm: There's no problem formatting a partition using NTFS on Linux! Just set the type and have ntfsprogs installed
[12:27] <k5673> hxm: You're welcome!
[12:27] <ActionPa1snip> litecoin2: format ntfs in Windows then use it in both, but the initial filesystem should be made in Windows initially imho
[12:27] <litecoin2> k5673: I never said there was :)
[12:35] <SupaYoshi> heya
[12:35] <lid6j86> hi
[12:35] <SupaYoshi> does anybody have an idea how I can fix this? :D File "./copyfuse.py", line 16, in <module>    import urllib3 ImportError: No module named urllib3
[12:35] <lid6j86> is there some way to change my username color here?
[12:35] <blazemore> lid6j86: It depends what client you are using, check the documentation for it
[12:35] <SupaYoshi> i think i need to install python, but im on 12.04 server, should I go with python 3.3.2?
[12:36] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: You have Python, you lack the package "python-urllib3"
[12:36] <SupaYoshi> or the older python versions?
[12:36] <lid6j86> thanks blazemore, it's xchat.  i'm new to ubuntu so i'm still getting a feel for where to find everything
[12:36] <SupaYoshi> BlackDex_, thanks!
[12:36] <SupaYoshi> BlackDex_ how do i install a package? :D
[12:36] <SupaYoshi> *just a package like that. ;) sudo apt-get install python-urllib3?
[12:36] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: blazemore is my name, and it's "sudo apt-get install python-urllib3"
[12:37] <SupaYoshi> Unable to locate package python-urllib3
[12:37] <SupaYoshi> sorry blazemore, typed on TAB to fast hehe to type yar name ><
[12:37] <blazemore> !info python-urllib3 precise
[12:38] <SupaYoshi> should i add the repo as listed here: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-python-3-3-on-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-and-12-04/
[12:38] <blazemore> OK SupaYoshi there isn't a version of the Python module you need packaged for Ubuntu 12.04. You can install the package from a later version (potentially problems although in this case it'll likely be fine)
[12:39] <mjuszczak> I just purged some old kernels and then got a message, something like, /vmlinuz bad link, you may need to update grub
[12:39] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: What is the output of the command   uname -i
[12:39] <themanwithnoface> trying to open a pdf from bash but i get "Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console"  do i have to assign a default program to open with? ccan i do that from bash?
[12:39] <blazemore> mjuszczak: try running "sudo update-grub"
[12:39] <blazemore> themanwithnoface: What command are you running to open it?
[12:39] <mjuszczak> I googled and got a lot of references to vmlinuz.old, but is /vzlinuz needed?  blazemore: I did, and it ran without error.  I'm scared to reboot though :)
[12:40] <blazemore> mjuszczak: If it ran without error you'll be fine to reboot
[12:40] <SupaYoshi> x86_64
[12:40] <blazemore> !grub
[12:40] <SupaYoshi> sorry was on the phone :)
[12:40] <blazemore> mjuszczak: Take a look there first just in case
[12:40] <mjuszczak> blazemore: thank you.  Will do.
[12:40] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: "open" and i aliased    "gnome-open to open"  in my .bashrc
[12:40] <dry[1]> hi. has anyone work with mother board sensors in Ubuntu here?
[12:41] <blazemore> themanwithnoface: try xdg-open just to see if it works
[12:41] <blazemore> !anyone | dry[1]
[12:41] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/115066465/python-urllib3_1.3-2ubuntu2_all.deb; sudo dpkg -i python-urllib3_1.3-2ubuntu2_all.deb
[12:41] <lid6j86> xchat is a little confusing tbh
[12:41] <blazemore> lid6j86: There are all sorts of other clients you can try
[12:42] <ObrienDave> lid6j86==> you will get used to it.
[12:42] <blazemore> lid6j86: there's http://webchat.freenode.net
[12:42] <SupaYoshi> blazemore: ependency problems - leaving unconfigured, Errors were encountered while processing: python-urllib3
[12:42] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: My apologies. Could you please paste the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com and then tell me the URL?
[12:42] <themanwithnoface> blazemore:  sends me to a gui that says  "open , save , display cancel"   when i hit  o    or enter for open it  blinks and does nothing
[12:43] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: It might be you have to upgrade to a later version of Ubuntu which has urllib3
[12:43] <gregu-> question: how should i inform apt-get to user proxy if i need to authenticate using: user: domain\user1:P@ssw  ?
[12:43] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: also i;m using bash in an ssh login
[12:43] <yebyen> does anyone know why, after restoring my notebook to a factory image (dd if=foo of=/dev/sda), its UEFI menu would still show entries that no longer exist (and didn't come with factory setup?)
[12:43] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066338/
[12:43] <blazemore> themanwithnoface: Are you using ssh X forwarding? You need to use the ssh -x command
[12:43] <SupaYoshi> Im on 12.04...
[12:43] <SupaYoshi> isnt that long term supported? lol
[12:43] <yebyen> doesn't that stuff live on the disk?
[12:43] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: sudo apt-get -f install
[12:44] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Yes, but urllib3 hadn't been invented yet when that came out
[12:44] <ObrienDave> yebyen==> because UEFI is BIOS, not an OS
[12:44] <SupaYoshi> hey
[12:44] <SupaYoshi> that did the trick i think! sudo apt-get -f install
[12:44] <blazemore> yebyen: That stuff lives in a special storage chip on the motherboard
[12:44] <yebyen> it's not on the UEFI partition?
[12:44] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Yeah that will grab dependencies from apt-get, since dpkg doesn't resolve dependencies automatically
[12:44] <dry[1]> How to quickly access (or make visible) correct values from my external thermal sensor?
[12:45] <ObrienDave> yebyen==> no, it's on a chip
[12:45] <yebyen> so, how do I clear the entries that don't exist on disk anymore
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> I see blazemore! thanks for the help ;) The program is executing now, but its saying  /etc/fuse.conf: Permission denied..
[12:45] <blazemore> dry[1]: Have you run sudo sensors-detect and followed the instructions
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> Im running it from a local account and not root.. which would be stupid id say
[12:45] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: That's a different issue to do with the program in question; what program is it? What does it do?
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> what would be your advice on this?
[12:45] <blazemore> !sudo | SupaYoshi
[12:45] <SupaYoshi> Its called copy-fuse, and it works with the cloud storage copy.com
[12:46] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: "ssh -x open the_c_book.pdf
[12:46] <themanwithnoface> ssh: Could not resolve hostname open: Name or service not known"  ?
[12:46] <blazemore> no themanwithnoface
[12:46] <SupaYoshi> I would like to run it at fstab, so it is automounted.
[12:46] <blazemore> themanwithnoface: When you connect with ssh, instead of just typing "ssh your_server" you type "ssh -x your_server"
[12:46] <SupaYoshi> Or p-erhaps with a cronjob would be better because its not a real harddrive
[12:46] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: You can use fstab for fuse too
[12:46] <yebyen> ObrienDave: any idea?  ubuntu could put an entry in there, so I assume it's possible to take one out
[12:46] <yebyen> ObrienDave: i don't have secure boot enabled...
[12:47] <ObrienDave> yebyen==> TBH i'm not familiar with UEFI. sorry
[12:47] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, thanks for letting me know the program is having issues atm though. im running it as sudo.. however it tells me: fuse: bad mount point `/mnt/copybackup': Permission denied
[12:48] <yebyen> ObrienDave: it was an option in the uefi menu!  i just missed it
[12:48] <yebyen> ObrienDave: i wonder how they are added by a new system, but it's not important I guess
[12:48] <ObrienDave> ok, good to know
[12:48] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: the fuse program is giving you that error. If it's trying to write to or create /mnt/copybackup, the user you're running it as needs to have permissions to write to that
[12:48] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Are you following a guide?
[12:49] <SupaYoshi> blazmore, no i am not really. well sort of
[12:49] <SupaYoshi> https://github.com/copy-app/copy-fuse/blob/master/README.md
[12:49] <blazemore> yebyen: I would imagine UEFI scans the disk for partitions itsself on boot, rather than the OS modifying any entry like you're imagining
[12:49] <SupaYoshi> blazemore: complete error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066352/ complete error
[12:49] <yebyen> blazemore: and it just keeps the entries after their presence has been wiped from the partition table and efi partition?
[12:50] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Does "/mnt/copybackup" exist? try "sudo mkdir /mnt/copybackup"
[12:50] <blazemore> yebyen: Apparently so
[12:51] <yebyen> blazemore: I know it's scanning bootable removable devices for EFI stuff, but I assumed because of all the rigamorole with the efi partition and different requirements for booting that there was a step for non-BIOS booting that involved adding an entry to that menu some way
[12:52] <lid6j86> one quick question
[12:52] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, yes that exists i created that before I mounted it :3
[12:52] <lid6j86> how exactly do i whisper to someone specifically
[12:52] <blazemore> yebyen: I don't know, it was a guess based on what I do know
[12:52] <lid6j86> nevermind
[12:52] <SupaYoshi> but i chowned it to my local account.
[12:52] <lid6j86> i found the help file finally
[12:53] <lid6j86> awesome, works
[12:54] <yebyen> blazemore: well it seems now that i'm booted into an OS that can read it, the re-image did really clean up my EFI partition too, so thanks!
[12:54] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, this is very odd. the program seems to work, however I get these weird errors.
[12:54] <p1l0t> Permissions question, If a folder is 770 and I am a member of the group can I create a new folder inside of it? Do all the parent directories also have to be 770 or just the subdirectory?
[12:54] <SupaYoshi> as started before ;)
[12:55] <SupaYoshi> fusermount: failed to unmount /mnt/copybackup: Device or resource busy
[12:55] <SupaYoshi> I tried to unmount it.. mhm.
[12:56] <SupaYoshi> im just going to reboot the system and try again ;) maybe it helps :3 device was deff. not busy. its a cloud storage drive.
[12:58] <noiro> Is there any way to completely reload an OS without reinstalling the default wireless driver on 12.04 which breaks the system?
[12:58] <blazemore> noiro: You could do a fresh install, then before you even boot, blacklist the relevant kernel module
[12:59] <Extreminador> p1l0t yup you can
[12:59] <noiro> Blaze, it's the same common broadcom bug. I still don't get why they never patched that bug for an LTS
[12:59] <Extreminador> p1l0t 7 means read/write/execute
[13:00] <SupaYoshi> blazemore: its not working still, im getting a different error. I think its something to do with permissions or something with the program.
[13:01] <p1l0t> Extreminador: thanks
[13:01] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Try making a folder in your home dirtory (mkdir ~/test) and then mounting it there (not as root)
[13:01] <SupaYoshi> oh nvm.. i think it works now! xD
[13:01] <SupaYoshi> i made a typo logging in.. lets see
[13:02] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, it works now, however i can only access it as root. bceause i run it as sudo its mounted as root
[13:02] <SupaYoshi> how would i implent this in fstab?
[13:03] <SupaYoshi> I can just chown -R the folder to my local account I suppose.
[13:03] <SupaYoshi> But in fstab, how can i use this? just the same command in fstab?
[13:03] <blazemore> An excellent question! You use the "user" directive instead of "defaults"
[13:04] <blazemore> "directive" is a fancy word that doesn't even make sense in that context so I don't know why I said it
[13:04] <SupaYoshi> And my other question isi see thank you ;) hah!
[13:04] <SupaYoshi> im going to try this ;)
[13:05] <SupaYoshi> oh no! i got one more question... the command im using is ./copyfuse
[13:05] <SupaYoshi> i would like to make copyfuse a system wide known command... instead of having to go to the directory and excecuting it then... i forgot how to do this.
[13:05] <blazemore> sudo ln -s /path/to/copyfuse /usr/bin/copyfuse
[13:05] <SupaYoshi> I believe it was a symlink to somewhere.
[13:05] <SupaYoshi> thank you.. :)
[13:05] <blazemore> Oh yeahhh I guessed your question correctly :)
[13:05] <SupaYoshi> is /usr/lib/copyfuse.. a good place for the program?
[13:05] <SupaYoshi> thanks! :)
[13:06] <SupaYoshi> haha amazing ;)
[13:06] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Anywhere in your path
[13:06] <blazemore> !path
[13:06] <SupaYoshi> okay :P lawl
[13:06] <cloneG> hello I would like to find the reason why I have two desktop folders in my home folder...one of those effectively opens a folder where I can see what I have in the desktop, that is to say shortcuts and some files and folders...but when I open the other one...I see nothing but the antivirus I am using (COMODO) any ideas?
[13:06] <SupaYoshi> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse /usr/bin/copyfuse
[13:07] <SupaYoshi> however.. if i type ./copyfuse it tells me no such file or directory?
[13:07] <SupaYoshi> How can i check if its working? :D
[13:07] <geirha> SupaYoshi: lose the ./
[13:07] <SupaYoshi> copyfuse: command not found
[13:07] <SupaYoshi> >< eep
[13:08] <SupaYoshi> ah wait... its copyfuse.py
[13:08] <SupaYoshi> no wait...
[13:08] <SupaYoshi> that doesnt work either :(
[13:08] <ActionPa1snip> SupaYoshi: the ./ tells the interpretter to lok in the pwd
[13:08] <geirha> ugh, commands shouldn't have extensions
[13:08] <bluefrog> cloneg so one is written Desktop and the other desktop?
[13:08] <ActionPa1snip> SupaYoshi: try typing 'copy'  then press TAB a few times
[13:09] <SupaYoshi> copyfuse.py  fuse.py      fuse.pyc     .git/        .gitignore   LICENSE      README.md
[13:09] <geirha> SupaYoshi: ''file /usr/lib/copyfuse /usr/bin/copyfuse''
[13:09] <SupaYoshi> ah wait, im in thtat direcotry
[13:09] <ActionPa1snip> SupaYoshi: are you in the same folder as the copyfuse command right now?
[13:09] <SupaYoshi> yeah i am. lol
[13:09] <ActionPa1snip> SupaYoshi: run:   cd    then retry
[13:09] <SupaYoshi> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse /usr/bin/copyfuse this is the command i done before.
[13:10] <SupaYoshi> The copyfuse is located in /usr/lib/copyfuse
[13:10] <SupaYoshi> ActionPa1snip, ive done that, nothing then
[13:10] <ActionPa1snip> SupaYoshi: then once you are in $HOME   you can run 'copyfuse' and it'll work
[13:11] <SupaYoshi> ActionPa1snip, nope im in /home/username
[13:11] <SupaYoshi> and i still cant do copyfuse. =/
[13:11] <SupaYoshi> sorry im probally doing something wrong . xD
[13:11] <Pici> SupaYoshi: if the command is copyfuse.py, you need to make sure that your symlink actually points to that.
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> SupaYoshi: type 'copy' and hit TAB again
[13:11] <SupaYoshi> ah.
[13:11] <Pici> SupaYoshi: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse.py /usr/bin/copyfuse
[13:11] <SupaYoshi> Action, nothing comes up.
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> Pici: just about to type that :)
[13:11] <SupaYoshi> Pici, thanks
[13:11] <SupaYoshi> How do i delete a old symlink? just rm?
[13:11] <ActionPa1snip> Pici: will the old link need removing first?
[13:12] <SupaYoshi> sorry kinda asking somethin stupid.
[13:12] <ActionPa1snip> SupaYoshi: yes, its just a file
[13:12] <ActionPa1snip> SupaYoshi: you'll need sudo
[13:12] <Pici> or use -f
[13:12] <SupaYoshi> so i remove it in /usr/bin? rm -r?
[13:12] <SupaYoshi> rm -r copyfuse.
[13:12] <geirha> without -r
[13:12] <ActionPa1snip> SupaYoshi: I'd go with -f :)
[13:13] <Pici> just do ln -fs /usr/lib/copyfuse.py /usr/bin/copyfuse
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> SupaYoshi: use TAB to complete the file names, reduces user error
[13:14] <SupaYoshi> =/ jeez
[13:14] <SupaYoshi> done that xD still no copyfuse
[13:15] <SupaYoshi> in /home/user/ TAB nothing/
[13:15] <SupaYoshi> copyfuse.. nothing lol
[13:15] <SupaYoshi> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse.py /usr/bin/copyfuse xD
[13:15] <Pici> SupaYoshi: Why would copyfuse be in your user's home?
[13:15] <geirha> SupaYoshi: Does ''file /usr/lib/copyfuse.py /usr/bin/copyfuse''  output info about each file?
[13:16] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066430/
[13:16] <SupaYoshi> oops. =/
[13:16] <SupaYoshi> what now? ;o
[13:17] <cloneG> bluefrog: no. one is written in spanish, the language I set in the installation, and the empty one in english
[13:17] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: what does "file /usr/lib/copyfuse.py" say?
[13:17] <geirha> Obviously, /usr/lib/copyfuse.py doesn't exist either. It would be an odd place to have a .py file anyway
[13:17] <SupaYoshi> ./usr/lib/copyfuse.py: ERROR: cannot open `/usr/lib/copyfuse.py' (No such file or directory)
[13:17] <blazemore> OK SupaYoshi. Where is copyfuse when you were running it before?
[13:17] <bluefrog> cloneg get rid of the empty one if all ur folders are in spanish
[13:18] <SupaYoshi> ./usr/lib/copyfuse is the directory i put it
[13:18] <bluefrog> cloneg can be comodo who created it
[13:18] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066444/
[13:18] <geirha> SupaYoshi: ls -ld /usr/lib/*fuse*
[13:18] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: rm /usr/bin/copyfuse
[13:18] <Pici> no
[13:18] <Pici> er
[13:18] <geirha> SupaYoshi: Ah, so it's /usr/lib/copyfuse/copyfuse.py
[13:18] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: ln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse/copyfuse.py /usr/bin/copyfuse
[13:19] <SupaYoshi> thanks.... :D
[13:19] <SupaYoshi> that was it sorry guys.. ><
[13:19] <blazemore> np glad you got it working
[13:19] <SupaYoshi> so allt hat went wrong wa that i forgot it was a directory.! ><
[13:19] <SupaYoshi> and then the file.
[13:19] <SupaYoshi> silly. ><
[13:19] <geirha> SupaYoshi: It's still an unconventional place to put python files though
[13:20] <SupaYoshi> ah okay, ive read it before with another program i installed.
[13:20] <lid6j86> what is geoip?
[13:20] <SupaYoshi> And they told me to go there.
[13:20] <lid6j86> says ubuntu geoip provider crashed
[13:20] <SupaYoshi> so i thought id put it there agian. /usr/lib/
[13:20] <blazemore> lid6j86: Geoip is a service that maps IP addresses to physical location
[13:20] <blazemore> !geoip
[13:20] <blazemore> !info geoip raring
[13:20] <lid6j86> i have raring, and it says it crashed
[13:20] <lid6j86> so i would imagine it has it
[13:21] <SupaYoshi> em.. so now in fstab all i have to do is /copyfuse user@email.com password /path/to/mount/point
[13:21] <SupaYoshi> oh and that one thin g! from earlier
[13:21] <blazemore> lid6j86: Is there a specific error message?
[13:21] <MrQuist> go to google and search for: "site:github.com id_rsa" fun ensured
[13:21] <geirha> SupaYoshi: That doesn't look valid for fstab
[13:21] <lid6j86> no, it just came up with a warning window saying that it had crashed
[13:22] <Pici> "it"
[13:22] <SupaYoshi> ehee ok.
[13:22] <blazemore> lid6j86: What were you doing at the time?
[13:22] <the-newsman> blazemore, i did as u told me. plz look at this url http://fpaste.org/37301/38735313/
[13:22] <the-newsman> what wrong i did now ?
[13:23] <blazemore> the-newsman: You broke it earlier when you tried to install the deb you made from Alien
[13:23] <blazemore> the-newsman: sudo apt-get remove deluge; sudo apt-get install deluge
[13:23] <the-newsman> ok hold plz
 An excellent question! You use the "user" directive instead of "defaults"
[13:23] <SupaYoshi> would this be correct: /copyfuse user@email.com password /path/to/mount/point user 0 0
[13:24] <jluc> hello all
[13:24] <blazemore> idk about /copyfuse there...
[13:24] <SupaYoshi> mhm ok, cus you said I could do it in fstab
[13:24] <SupaYoshi> mount it in fstab hehe
[13:24] <blazemore> In general, one "registers" a new mount filesystem type by creating an executable mount.fstype
[13:25] <SupaYoshi> would using a cronjob to do this work better?
[13:25] <blazemore> ln -s /usr/lib/copyfuse.py /usr/sbin/mount.copy
[13:25] <SupaYoshi> @reboot /copyfuse user@email.com password /path/to/mount/point
[13:25] <blazemore> Hold on no, I know how to do it
[13:25] <SupaYoshi> Ah oK!
[13:25] <blazemore> let me tell you the fstab line
[13:25] <SupaYoshi> :3 ok ok ok ur amazing xD haha
[13:26] <geirha> SupaYoshi: That looks like a crontab line
[13:26] <SupaYoshi> geekbri, yea i was planning on using crontab if i were alone.
[13:26] <Pici> "fuse" is userspace, which means it really doesn't belong in fstab.
[13:26] <geekbri> Drive by nick highlighting!
[13:26] <SupaYoshi> but blazemore is an awesome teachre
[13:26] <p1l0t> I have a user www-data that is in the group of another user yet is cannot create a folder in one owned by that user with 770 permissions. It was suggested this could be an issue with apparmor but I am unfamiliar with how this program works. I did do apparmor_status and it is indeed running.
[13:27] <SupaYoshi> geirha xD hahaa oops
[13:27] <blazemore> copyfuse#username@email.com /path/to/mountpoint fuse user 0 0
[13:27] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: ^
[13:27] <p1l0t> There is a question in there somewhere.
[13:27] <p1l0t> :)
[13:27] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, going to try right away!
[13:27] <SupaYoshi> is there any way of testing fstab without rebooting btw?
[13:28] <freite> is samba4 completely borked in 13.04 or am i missing something, installed the samba4 package and when i run samba -i for debuging it cant find /usr/sbin/smbd which isnt included in the samba4 package
[13:28] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Unmount it manually first and then just run "mount /path/to/mountpoint" and see if it works
[13:28] <blazemore> do "mount /path/to/mountpoint" after editing /etc/fstab of course
[13:28] <jluc> On ubuntu 12.04 and on 2 different computers Thunderbird hijacks the focus and i connot use nor the SUPER (windows) key nor ALT TAB. The main TB window is stuck full screen (not the write-message windows)
[13:28] <jluc> So i cannot leave TB and  switch to another app (it takes numerous tries before i can reach another app in same workspace)
[13:28] <jluc> CPU usage keeps low or none for TB.
[13:28] <jluc> The workspace switch hotkey is ok though : i can easyly switch to another workspace (desktop) (so a workaround could be to launch TB in another workspace...)
[13:28] <FloodBot1> jluc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <jluc> Is there a way to make TB application-switch friendly with usual ALT TAB or SUPER keys ?
[13:28] <SupaYoshi> hey blazemore copyfuse#username@email.com /path/to/mountpoint fuse user 0 0 doesnt contain a password! ;P
[13:28] <jluc> BTW I have a big lots of mail (TB profile size = 17Go).
[13:29] <blazemore> Oh that's a good point SupaYoshi try copyfuse#username@email.com#password
[13:29] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: fyi I'm getting my information from here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1554178/how-to-register-fuse-filesystem-type-with-mount8-and-fstab
[13:29] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Don't try too hard when you could use a crontab
[13:29] <blazemore> I just find fstab easier to manage since all the mounts and things are in one place
[13:29] <SupaYoshi> wouldnt cronjob be safer? especially since when the server has no internet connection it wouldnt boot?
[13:29] <SupaYoshi> cus fstab wouldnt load the mount?
[13:30] <SupaYoshi> unless i skip it?
[13:30] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: That's a great point, and could affect your decision
[13:30] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Either will work, crontab is probably simpler
[13:30] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, but cronjob wont hang the system during boot as the system cant mount?
[13:30] <SupaYoshi> or will fstab ignore it? auto?
[13:31] <SupaYoshi> well you know just gonna test brb ;)
[13:31] <blazemore> Cron will try to run the script, but it won't hang the system if it fails
[13:31] <lid6j86> apparently steam destroyed me
[13:31] <lid6j86> it locked my system up and i had to reboot
[13:32] <lid6j86> whats the best way to ensure that all the files it was in the process of installing are removed?
[13:32] <SupaYoshi> hehe the fstab didnt work :)
[13:32] <blazemore> Never mind, the cron will
[13:33] <SupaYoshi> im just gonna use gron ;)
[13:33] <SupaYoshi> *cron yeah hgaha!
[13:33] <blazemore> Don't forget to remove the line from fstab to avoid complications
[13:33] <SupaYoshi> would i need to run the crontab as root or as user?
[13:33] <blazemore> jluc: Is Thunderbird in fullscreen? Hit F11
[13:34] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, ;) already removed. ;3 hah
[13:34] <blazemore> !cron
[13:34] <SupaYoshi> yes i know.
[13:34] <SupaYoshi> I mean crontab -e as root, or as user.
[13:34] <blazemore> Root if you needed to use root to mount it
[13:34] <SupaYoshi> sudo su, then crontab -e or just as normal user: )
[13:34] <SupaYoshi> hah ok :P
[13:34] <blazemore> I'd just do sudo crontab -e
[13:35] <SupaYoshi> testing now ;)
[13:36] <whoever> hi all is there anyone here user  razer abbysus
[13:36] <jluc> blazemore : TB is fullscreen but cannot leave it. F11 only opens/closes the right sidetab. Clicking ALT+RightClick on the titlebar proposes to resize window but has no effect
[13:36] <whoever> if so is there an app port to controll the hotkeys and led
[13:36] <whoever> i know you can map the keys
[13:37] <blazemore> jluc: Alt+F8 is the keyboard shortcut for resize.
[13:37] <blazemore> I found this whoever http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html
[13:39] <blazemore> jluc: Also take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/196058/comments/13
[13:40] <DT> anyone know anything about steam?
[13:40] <blazemore> !anyone
[13:40] <SupaYoshi> okay it works! great, ;) Now one more problem perhaps.. not sure yet. My local users cant access it, since its mounted by root.
[13:40] <SupaYoshi> However since its mounted each reboot.. it automaticlly becomes root owned, correct? Therefor how can I chown it to be user accessable?
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> DT  try #ubuntu-steam
[13:40] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Can your local users do things in the target directory *before* its mounted? ie do they have the right permissions on it?
[13:41] <DT> #ubuntu-steam
[13:41] <DT> ?
[13:41] <DT> thanks
[13:41] <SupaYoshi> blazemore i believe so yes.
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> DT  type /join #ubuntu-steam
[13:41] <DJones> DT: I think there is a #ubuntu-steam channel that could be a good place to ask about steam issues
[13:42] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: What is your crontab line? ie what exactly is getting run on every reboot?
[13:42] <SupaYoshi> copyfuse is being run as root.
[13:42] <vel0> hi
[13:42] <blazemore> just the command "copyfuse" by itsself?
[13:42] <SupaYoshi> @reboot copyfuse user@sometjhing.com
[13:43] <SupaYoshi> yes
[13:43] <blazemore> and "copyfuse" is a script that mounts it?
[13:43] <whoever> ss_haze: compairing and checking before putting out the cash man
[13:43] <SupaYoshi> yep
[13:43] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Can you find the line in copyfuse that does the actual mount?
[13:43] <p1l0t> Is www-data supposed to have a profile in apparmor? Because I don't see one. Not sure if that's my problem I have zero experince with apparmor
[13:43] <SupaYoshi> and that script acesses fuse. which is not able to be accesses by a normal user
[13:43] <SupaYoshi> ah ok sure. i think so
[13:43] <p1l0t> experience
[13:43] <SupaYoshi> moment.
[13:44] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: If you can't just copy paste the entire file onto http://paste.ubuntu.com (take out your password) and I'll find it
[13:44] <SupaYoshi> thanks ur very helping and nice
[13:44] <SupaYoshi> :P im lookin for you too though.
[13:44] <blazemore> ehh I'm sitting at work getting paid
[13:44] <blazemore> Might as well do tech support at the same time
[13:44] <ss_haze> whoever: wut?
[13:44] <p1l0t> blazemore: we appreciate it :)
[13:45] <pc> hi
[13:45] <ss_haze> hi everyone
[13:45] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066517/
[13:45] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: That won't work, it's expecting a username and password and stuff.
[13:46] <blazemore> if you just run the command "copyfuse" on its own what happens?
[13:46] <SupaYoshi> yeah, and that is given in the cronjob
[13:46] <blazemore> Oh OK
[13:46] <SupaYoshi> i didnt put that in at the crontab, :) the crontab works just fine
[13:46] <SupaYoshi> its just permission problem hehe :3
[13:46] <blazemore> I need to know the crontab line
[13:46] <SupaYoshi> oky one sec ;)
[13:46] <blazemore> without personal details obviously
[13:46] <SupaYoshi> @reboot copyfuse supayoshisomething@gmail.com password /mnt/copybackup
[13:47] <Aaruni> can I password protect a whole application? for e.g., thunderbird should ask for a password, each time someone tries to open it..
[13:47] <blazemore> @reboot copyfuse -o allow_other supayoshisomething@gmail.com password /mnt/copybackup
[13:48] <SupaYoshi> what does allow_other mean :D
[13:48] <blazemore> According to "man fuse" it means "allow access to other users"
[13:48] <blazemore> ie users other than the one who mounted it, will be able to access
[13:49] <SupaYoshi> ah great :D
[13:49] <blazemore> If you *just* want your user to be able to access it, take that line out of root's crontab, and run "crontab -e" as your own user. In this case you wouldn't want to use allow_other
[13:49] <whoever> ss_haze: so what i am tring to see is how a higher dpi is better for something like gimp than a lower dpi mouse
[13:49] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, I see ;) hah
[13:50] <the-newsman> blazemore,  how can i find an installed program ?
[13:50] <sront> Hey guys. Im running Ubuntu 13.4 and I'm having problems connecting to the internet over 802.1x
[13:51] <blazemore> the-newsman: Could you rephrase that? If you want to know the location of a binary in your path, use "which programname"
[13:51] <SupaYoshi> awesome works!
[13:51] <the-newsman> blazemore,  i meant, inside the menus
[13:51] <SupaYoshi> hah now i have access, copy is great for backups ;)
[13:52] <SupaYoshi> I got 35 GB free dropbox like storage :3
[13:53] <sront> The thing is. As far as I can judge it, the settings are correct, my Login and password are correct and the drivers seem to be ok too
[13:53] <ss_haze> whoever: keep on going
[13:54] <sront> I'm kind of at a loss about where to continue troubleshooting
[13:54] <whoever> ss_haze: huh
[13:54] <whoever> wtf
[13:54] <ss_haze> whoever: whoever you are, keep doing whats best for you
[13:56] <sront> Someone got the faintest idea?
[13:57] <SupaYoshi> I love the Ubuntu Samba transfer speed on my gbit network :3 its like faster then the HDD itself on Windows lmao
[13:58] <Aaruni> repost : can I password protect a whole application? for e.g., thunderbird should ask for a password, each time someone tries to open it..
[13:58] <megha> Hello, I am trying to fix one trivial bug taken from launchpad, I downloaded the source code, there are many files in that source code, but not able to figure out the file in which I should work, I used grep command,but I am not getting the particular file, Can you please help me in this?
[14:00] <syaelendra> hi all
[14:01] <helmut_> hi
[14:03] <megha> Can anyone please help me
[14:03] <blazemore> What are you actually trying to do megha ?
[14:04] <LarsN> is there any way to stop monitoring my mouse battery status?
[14:04] <blazemore> Aaruni: I guess you could look at parental control software, although I don't know any of them to recommend
[14:05] <Aaruni> blazemore: can't I do something like each time thunderbird is launched , it is launched with a gksudo, so it needs a password, even though it will do nothing with the root previliges ?
[14:05] <blazemore> Aaruni: You could make a script that does "gksu true" and then "thunderbird", and replace the menu entry
[14:06] <blazemore> Aaruni: That wouldn't stop people who know the location of the thunderbird binary from running it directly though
[14:06] <LarsN> Aaruni: I'm late, and missed the original problem, but....
[14:06] <Aaruni> then that's no use.
[14:06] <LarsN> I assume the goal is to keep people other than you from reading your e-mail?
[14:06] <DJones> LarsN: Are you using 13.10? I've only seen the mouse battery mentioned in the development version
[14:07] <Aaruni> LarsN: yep
[14:07] <megha> blazemore:I am trying to find out file containing an option "print-installation-architecture", from the source code
[14:07] <LarsN> DJones: yes...  I thought I had the same thing in 13.04
[14:07] <LarsN> Aaruni: in that case, why not just setup additional users for $Everyone
[14:07] <blazemore> megha: find -type f | xargs grep "print-installation-architecture"
[14:07] <LarsN> and password protect yours...
[14:08] <Aaruni> LarsN: what's $Everyone ?
[14:08] <LarsN> Mom, Dad, Sister, Brother, Nephew, Niece, Roomate
[14:08] <DJones> LarsN: Probably worth asking in #ubuntu+1 I didn't think that was available in 13.04, I'm sure I've seen it mentioned as a new feature for 13.10
[14:08] <megha> blazemore: Thank you
[14:08] <LarsN> DJones: will do, thank you!!!
[14:08] <blazemore> megha: No problem, I use that pattern multiple times a day
[14:09] <jluc> as for TB blocking fullscreen ALT F8 does nothing blazemore but it"s same bug à 196058 and probably more precisely https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624125 too so i'll try renaming  localstore.rdf
[14:09] <Aaruni> LarsN: I already have my own password protected account, but was wondering if I could do that to add another layer of protection, in case I leave my account switched on, and someone opens thunderbird
[14:09] <blazemore> jluc: The specific comment I linked you to tells you how you can edit that file to remove the part causing problems, which would mean you don't have to get rid of or move it entirely
[14:09] <jluc> i'll try ok
[14:09] <megha> blazemore: Thanks for using it one more time
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> what's TB blocking?
[14:10] <LarsN> Aaruni: 1. don't leave your computer without hitting <ctrl>+<alt>+l     and   2. setup a blank screen screensaver to kick in after 5 minutes, and require a password to log back in.
[14:10] <LarsN> Aaruni: but #1 on that list is the most important, and a killer habit to get into.
[14:10] <mydevilroot> Hello again
[14:10] <blazemore> Just get an office job for a week, you'll soon get into the ctrl-alt-l habit
[14:11] <mydevilroot> I have a question: is any way to BLOCK autoupdate the kernel of ubuntu ?
[14:11] <Aaruni> LarsN: this is not an emergency. I already take those precautions. (since its a laptop, just shut the lid, and it locks out, and it locks out, if no activity for 10 minutes), but I was wondering if it can be done.
[14:11] <blazemore> mydevilroot: Go to System → Administration → Synaptic Package Manager.
[14:11] <blazemore> mydevilroot: wait, ignore everything
[14:11] <blazemore> I just copy pasted instructions from some years ago...
[14:12] <Marlenee> is there any option in *grep that can color two or more that two search result ?
[14:12] <mydevilroot> blazemore: I just format my system again and make a kernel update and that's the reason why my pc is still crashing
[14:12] <blazemore> mydevilroot: What ubuntu version are you using?
[14:12] <mydevilroot> blazemore: 13.04
[14:12] <mydevilroot> x64
[14:12] <geirha> Marlenee: Come again?
[14:12] <jluc> but i'm not sure to understand https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/196058/comments/13 : it sats both "Search the entry xxxxx" and "change the width, height and screenXY entries to the ones you see here" ...
[14:12] <blazemore> OK mydevilroot are you on a working kernel right now? The one you want to use forever?
[14:12] <mydevilroot> I discovered, after updating the kernel to any version my system is crashing
[14:12] <sront> Heyho. I'm trying to connect to a network over 802.1x but it doesn't work. My Login and password are correct and I am able to connect using the same machine on my windows. Any ideas?
[14:12] <mydevilroot> Nope, I have to format my pc again
[14:12] <mydevilroot> blazemore: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears
[14:13] <mydevilroot> blazemore: It happends after updating the kernel to any version
[14:13] <jluc> ok i got it. the entry is only the first line
[14:13] <mydevilroot> blazemore: also the autoupdates settings, when my system is autoupdating th kernel to any version it crashes
[14:14] <Aaruni> another thing. the bluetooth on this device refuses to work. its some ralink hardware, not sure which, not sure how to find out which. any help ?
[14:14] <mydevilroot> blazemore: and I have to format my laptop again, because there is no way to fix it. I'm stuck with it from few days
[14:14] <blazemore> mydevilroot: Can't you boot from the older (working) kernel?
[14:14] <mydevilroot> blazemore: dunno why, the another kernel version is braking my system (compiz and unity) and any tutorials to restore/fix it/reinstall is not working
[14:14] <LarsN> Aaruni: is it internal, or an external bluetooth adapter?
[14:14] <mydevilroot> blazemore: I can't
[14:14] <Aaruni> LarsN: internal.
[14:15] <geirha> Marlenee: Your question seems to be lacking a few words, so I don't understand what you're asking.
[14:15] <blazemore> mydevilroot: Reboot your computer and hold shift to enter the Grub menu, then select the version that previously worked
[14:15] <LarsN> Aaruni: lspci or lsusb  (with -v for more info)
[14:15] <LarsN> should get you some googable info.
[14:15] <mydevilroot> blazemore: I'm going to format my laptop again, but my question is: is there any way to block the system from autoupdating the kernel ?
[14:15] <Aaruni> LarsN: Ralink corp. RT3290 Bluetooth
[14:15] <blazemore> yes mydevilroot use synaptic package manager to "freeze" the version of the kernel you're currently on
[14:15] <hylian> why is it that if I backup /var/cache/apt/archives, and reinstall I still need to download stuff? (I'm not talking about things like flashplayer/java)
[14:16] <mydevilroot> blazemore: Thank You for the answer, I'm formatting my pc right now and I'll write if it works, Thanks for the answer
[14:17] <blazemore> mydevilroot: Google for "site:ask.ubuntu.com ubuntu prevent kernel update" and loo
[14:17] <jluc> Yes blazemore : it enables to get out of the fullscreen blocked state. thanks a lot. i hope it wont get blocked there too often or i will need to write a "reset and launch TB" script :-)
[14:17] <mydevilroot> blazemore: Okay, I'll
[14:17] <blazemore> jluc: Subscribe to the bug report, and mark it as also affecting you
[14:17] <blazemore> mydevilroot: I accidentally half a sentence
[14:18] <sront> (sront) Heyho. I'm trying to connect to a network over 802.1x but it doesn't work. My Login and password are correct and I am able to connect using the same machine on my windows. Any ideas?
[14:18] <geirha> hylian: The installer won't see them, but after the installation, apt-get should detect and use them if they're the right version
[14:21] <hylian> geirha: that's what I mean, I reinstall, dump the archives back, and i still need to get a lot of data from the internet... i should have nothing to download if I just fetched all available updates/upgrades (and dist-upgrades) before restarting...
[14:21] <IamTrying> I changed desktop image. and system is crashed? why? e.g: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri file:///home/serrano/Pictures/y.jpg
[14:21] <IamTrying> Now not booting anymore
[14:21] <Illusioneer> I am scratching my head over this one, I have a box with 3 gig and my LAMP stack took up all but 100mb of ram.  So I killed apache/mysql but free shows it has not released any ram.  Why?
[14:22] <hylian> how would I feed another machine my upgrades so it would not have to use the internet? (no connection possible..??)
[14:22] <geirha> hylian: Assuming you didn't run apt-get clean somewhere in there, yes, I'd expect that to work.
[14:22] <blazemore> Illusioneer: look at "sudo ps aux" to check if apache/mysql are not running
[14:22] <hylian> geirha: me too, but it doesn't.
[14:22] <zykotick9> hylian: if you have 2 machines, check out apt-cacher-ng
[14:23] <hylian> zykotick9: ok, but doesn't that just save the archives folder?
[14:23] <Pici> Illusioneer: are you sure that your ram isn't being used by cache/buffers? That doesn't really count as 'used' ram.
[14:24] <geirha> hylian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_packages_without_an_Internet_connection
[14:24] <zykotick9> hylian: also the apt database part, so you can update from one machine to the other (typically, as a proxy, but there is also an offline mode i believe)
[14:24] <Illusioneer> Pici well I am just going by "free -m" which says I have only 80mb of physical ram unused
[14:24] <Illusioneer> This was after I stopped all services like mysql and apache
[14:24] <Pici> Illusioneer: can you pastebin the exact output?
[14:24] <zykotick9> !atemyram | Illusioneer
[14:25] <IamTrying> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri file:///home/serrano/Pictures/y.jpg - Why it crash system? Not booting anymore.
[14:25] <hylian> zykotick9: i think you hit the nail on the head, i know I am not backing up everything apt is getting...
[14:25] <Illusioneer> I also ran sync which did nothing
[14:26] <Illusioneer> Ok so I see where the buffer/cache shows the 3480 is free
[14:26] <Illusioneer> But shouldn't sync have released that?
[14:26] <blazemore> Illusioneer: That ram is available
[14:26] <zykotick9> Illusioneer: sync is related the HD/storage, not ram.
[14:26] <blazemore> Illusioneer: If another app needs RAM it will be released
[14:26] <Illusioneer> Ah ok thanks
[14:26] <Illusioneer> This explains some of the messages that weren't making sense
[14:27] <hylian> thanks zykotick9 and geirha, i think i have a solution!
[14:28] <hylian> thanks all for the help
[14:28] <sarthor> HI, I have several files in one directory, ZDABAD.TTF, ZAG.TTF ..... I want to change all those files name to zdabad.ttf, zag.ttf .... Is it possible to do this with a single command, in short file name are in CAPS, want to change them to Small . with  extention.
[14:28] <collectek> how do I add a service to startup for ubuntu server 12.04?
[14:28] <collectek> I seem to remember it had something to do with the rc.d?
[14:28] <geirha> sarthor: for file in ./*.TTF; do mv "$file" "${file,,}"; done
[14:29] <Pici> sarthor: rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' *
[14:29] <agrester> Just did an upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 and the dash doesn
[14:29] <geirha> sarthor: Note that it will fail if the filesystem is NTFS (or some other case-insensitive file system)
[14:29] <p1l0t> So figured out more of my problem. when I changed the group of the folder to www-data it can create folders. even though id www-data shows that it was in the group of the owner of the file and the permissions are 770 that isn't good enough. Why?
[14:29] <Pici> agrester: 13.10 isn't supported in this channel, please use #ubuntu+1
[14:30] <agrester> dash doesn't look normal and things are a bit off, how can I reset Ubuntu to default settings?
[14:31] <sarthor> Pici, Thank you, rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' * worked,
[14:31] <Pici> sarthor: np :)
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> agrester  it's because 13.10 is not yet stable, you cannot expect it to work without flaws
[14:32] <sront>  Heyho. I'm trying to connect to a network over 802.1x but it doesn't work. My Login and password are correct and I am able to connect using the same machine on my windows. Any ideas?
[14:32] <agrester> Okay, but in general how do reset Unity to factory settings?
[14:33] <p1l0t> sront: mac id list?
[14:33] <jluc> i've done so blazemore
[14:33] <geirha> p1l0t: I can't make heads or tails of your question. You're talking about creating a folder somewhere, then suddenly you're talking about a file with mode 770 ... ?
[14:34] <p1l0t> geirha: the user www-data (php) cannot create folders inside of a folder owned by user:user even though it is in the group user. However if I change it to user:www-data it works fine. id www-data does confirm it is in the group user though
[14:34] <LinuxGold> hi ooboontooers
[14:35] <tenc> hiiiii
[14:35] <geirha> p1l0t: May be you just need to restart php to get the new group membership
[14:35] <geirha> p1l0t: Or rather, apache I guess
[14:38] <p1l0t> geirha: I'll try it
[14:38] <collectek> any heartbeat experts over here that want to field a few questions?
[14:40] <TurkishMan> türk var mý
[14:41] <TurkishMan> hi people
[14:41] <tenc> hi
[14:41] <TurkishMan> hve are u tenc
[14:41] <roninn> if I have a bash script and I run bash script, why doesn't it work, it should change one environment variable
[14:42] <p1l0t> geirha: yes that worked :)
[14:42] <roninn> 'bash script'
[14:42] <sront> Not enough permissions?
[14:42] <roninn> when pasting all the few lines from the script it works though
[14:42] <tenc> @roninn are you sure it runs?
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> collectek  is that for a server? if yes: better ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:42] <roninn> how could I verify
[14:42] <sront> Like chmod +x
[14:42] <tenc> add an echo
[14:42] <BluesKaj> !tr | TurkishMan
[14:43] <TurkishMan> BluesKaj
[14:43] <TurkishMan> yes from tr
[14:44] <sront> Heyho. I'm trying to connect to a network over 802.1x but it doesn't work. My Login and password are correct and I am able to connect using the same machine on my windows. Any ideas?
[14:44] <collectek> MonkeyDust yes it is. I will ask in #ubuntu-server then
[14:44] <collectek> MonkeyDust thanks
[14:45] <BluesKaj> TurkishMan:  if you wish to speak in your own languge  then /join #ubuntu-tr
[14:45] <roninn> http://codepad.org/5OWzs0qY
[14:45] <blazemore> !details | sront
[14:45] <roninn> it gets runned
[14:45] <roninn> but doesn't change the variable :|
[14:45] <blazemore> roninn: It only changes it for the rest of the script
[14:45] <roninn> oh
[14:46] <roninn> that explains
[14:46] <sront> Its 13.04. It just tries to connect then stops and I'm going crazy
[14:46] <blazemore> roninn: Those 4 lines; put them at the end of the ~/.bashrc file if you want it to be permanent
[14:47] <sront> Got the same preferences as in windows and I know that the settings are the same as in windows
[14:49] <roninn> blazemore, i have it in /etc/profile.d/script
[14:49] <roninn> blazemore, it should be run every login
[14:50] <voltagex> hey, why is .disk needed on the ISO for GRUB to boot?
[14:51] <Marlenee> geirha : i mean if i search for two diffrent word using "grep" how can i change the color of the other word ?
[14:51] <abrkn> i'm struggling with sed. i'd like to get the last pid outputted from pstree output "sudo(5277)---node(5283)---{node}(5284)". im trying ubuntu@ip-10-0-1-251:~$ pstree -pA 5277 | sed -r 's/(\d+).$/\1/' but that simply outputs the original string. what am i doing wrong?
[14:53] <blazemore> abrkn: It seems you could use awk in this case, not sed
[14:53] <blazemore> abrkn: so in the above case, the output you want would be "5284" ?
[14:53] <abrkn> blazemore: correct
[14:54] <geirha> Marlenee: I don't think grep has the ability to do that.
[14:54] <roninn> actually the file should have extension, maybe .sh? otherwise it won't get runned
[14:54] <roninn> automatically
[14:54] <zykotick9> abrkn: are you familiar with the "pidof" command?  "pidof pstree" type thing.
[14:55] <abrkn> zykotick9: thanks for the tip, but after looking at the manpage it doesnt seem to be what need
[14:55] <abrkn> blazemore: any example of that? ive never used awk and the manual seems pretty tough
[14:56] <geirha> Marlenee: You can adjust the colors grep uses for various things, but I don't think there's any distinction between first and second pattern.
[14:56] <Slart> abrkn: I'll see what I can do.. like playing with things like these =)
[14:58] <CappyT> hi everyone, i'm experiencing little problems with my ubuntu server... does anyone know how to block countries on Ubuntu 13.04 directly from IPT?
[14:59] <somson> whois somson
[14:59] <Slart> abrkn: for one thing.. \d doesn't seem to work.. replacing it with [0-9] gave me better results.. might be a bash thing
[14:59] <blazemore> abrkn: pstree -pA 5277 | tail -n 1 | sed 's/.*(\(.*\))/\1/'
[14:59] <geirha> In sed, \d will match a d. \d is a perl thing.
[15:00] <gassho> how do i find out how much memory my graphics board haz
[15:01] <roninn> does anybody know why my script (setting env variable) only works for su
[15:01] <roninn> for other users the variable is default
[15:02] <Pici> roninn: how are you testing this?
[15:02] <geirha> roninn: profile is only read when you log in. If you log in graphically, there won't be any TERM variable, because TERM is set by the terminal emulator
[15:02] <blazemore> gassho: Take a look at the output of the command "sudo lshw -class display"
[15:03] <roninn> Pici,  login to the server with ssh ...
[15:03] <DT> i'm on Ubuntu 13.04, just installed Catalyst 13.4 drivers.  I'm running 4 monitors.  Only 2 of the monitors came up, and I can't seem to activate the other 2 displays properly through catalyst
[15:03] <zykotick9> gassho: blazemore's suggestion looks easier, but my notes on the subject - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066814/
[15:03] <geirha> roninn: TERM should in general never be changed. The terminal emulator should set this to a value it supports. Though unfortunately, gnome-terminal seems incapable of setting it to something other than xterm
[15:04] <abrkn> blazemore: thanks. i dont understand how to read the parenthesis
[15:05] <blazemore> abrkn: neither do I, I just added and moved them around til it worked
[15:05] <lmat> Is it normal that when I have caps lock on, it is as though shift is depressed ? Of course this is the desired behaviour for letters, but for numbers, too ? and equal sign, and dash/underscore ?
[15:05] <blazemore> sed bruteforcing ftw
[15:05] <abrkn> blazemore: haha
[15:05] <abrkn> like wtf is (\( supposed to mean
[15:05] <blazemore> Start backreference, then a literal bracket
[15:05] <blazemore> Or vice versa
[15:05] <meatflag> lmat: what keyboard are you using?
[15:06] <abrkn> blazemore: i read it as start capture then a literal (
[15:06] <blazemore> It can't be that though, or the output would have () in them. It must be literal bracket first
[15:08] <abrkn> blazemore: so the escaping is inversed? im confused. \( means capture start?
[15:08] <geirha> abrkn: in sed, ( and ) matches ( and ). \( and \) defines a grouping
[15:08] <abrkn> man... ok
[15:09] <geirha> abrkn: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/RegularExpression
[15:09] <Slart> abrkn: this also depends on what the shell does with strings, I think
[15:09] <Slart> abrkn: when I run your example in a terminal \( means a literal parenthesis..() captures
[15:09] <lequtix> hi everyone
[15:10] <geirha> the shell doesn't touch anything enclosed in single quotes, so the \( is passed unchanged to sed
[15:10] <gassho> y thank u ^^
[15:12] <john_john> anyone knows a nice looking theme for kde's all elements? There's too much inconsistency on my desktop right now.
[15:13] <airking> When I run cmus, it says there is no output plugin, and I only have wav.so for input plugins.  How do I get it to play .mp4, and get the output plugin working?
[15:13] <airking> Has anyone here had this issue/know what to do?
[15:15] <NikP> I want to use Jack to record my podcast to ardour. But if I first-start jack after system-boot, jack can't start the server. I can do that so oft I want, it doesn't changes anything. Then I open and close ardour and then start jack, and the server - runs! Why?
[15:16] <_ingsoc> Does anyone know how to get 4965 wireless working?
[15:16] <_ingsoc> Is that considered legacy?
[15:17] <momin90909> Hello everyone, I cant set proxy authentication in Synaptic package manager. When I goto Settings-> Network->authentication username and password field are greyed out. Terminal apt-get works fine
[15:18] <ActionPa1snip> _ingsoc: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:23] <ActionPa1snip> _ingsoc: its a simple terminal command
[15:25] <blazemore> MonkeyDust: Edit the file /root/.synaptic/synaptic.conf - you can specify the user and password on the httpProxyUser and httpProxyPass lines
[15:25] <blazemore> Sorry MonkeyDust
[15:25] <blazemore> He quit
[15:25] <ActionPa1snip> why are people using synaptic when software centre is already installed...
[15:25] <ActionPa1snip> strange
[15:26] <Monday> is it possible to setup a login password and encryption on the liveCD/USB ?
[15:26] <Extreminador> guys what is the "command line" collum in the kuser software... it have values like "bin/bash" or /bin/sh", etc etc
[15:26] <blazemore> Monday: Could you rephrase the question?
[15:26] <Extreminador> what are thouses values for ?
[15:26] <blazemore> Extreminador: Sets the user's default shell
[15:27] <ActionPa1snip> Monday: you can remaster the ISO and set that up. You could also install to the USB stick as a normal HDD then you can treat it as a normal (albeit slower) install
[15:27] <Extreminador> blazemore tahnsk will checl what is that sheel thing
[15:27] <blazemore> !cli
[15:28] <codephobic> hi,
[15:28] <Extreminador> humm you mean sheel/terminal or console are the same thing (more or less)
[15:28] <codephobic> back again, with even worse trouble.
[15:28] <Monday> ActionPa1snip, is there a tutorial on how to remaster the iso, and you are saying that the liveCD/USB boots up faster than installing directly on the CD/USB?
[15:28] <blazemore> Extreminador: Well, the console is a graphical application, the shell is the command interpreter
[15:28] <Extreminador> ahh ok got it...
[15:28] <codephobic> Ubuntu 13.04 crashes everytime I try and burn a disc (8.4GB).
[15:28] <ActionPa1snip> Monday: there are tonnes of guides on remastering the ISO but installing to USB will be easier
[15:29] <blazemore> Extreminador: You can run any shell in any console (for example I'm using bash in Terminator right now; I've also used zsh in gnome-shell)
[15:29] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: which burners have you tried?
[15:29] <Extreminador> sow that value is the value that indicates what commands that user will have access ?
[15:29] <blazemore> Extreminador: People do use the terms interchangably however
[15:29] <codephobic> It gets partway in to the process, using Brasero, and before it actually begins writing the image, my whole OS crashes :(
[15:29] <codephobic> Brasero, ActionPa1snip
[15:29] <blazemore> codephobic: Does it do this with every image you try to burn, or is it just one?
[15:29] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip: Brasero.
[15:30] <blazemore> codephobic: Could you try running "brasero" from the command line, then see if it gives you an error when it crashes?
[15:30] <Izgoi> Привет всем!
[15:30] <codephobic> blazemore, with every image I've tried to create in the past few hours. I've never had this problem before.
[15:30] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: any others?
[15:31] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, I only use brasero, haven't tried with others really.
[15:31] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: think you should? See if the issue is isolated to brasero? Try xfburn......
[15:31] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, I'll give it a shot.
[15:32] <bibi23> hi, ubuntu shows randomly somea black screen after
[15:32] <codephobic> I've got one question though. I might be running low on diskspace on the /home drive, I have around 13GB (which should be more than enough for burning a dvd), could cache/temp file corruption cause a complete system crash?
[15:32] <codephobic> this is very unlike Ubuntu, rarely have I had my whole system crash as a result of an application falling over.
[15:33] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: how much space is available in /tmp
[15:33] <codephobic> everything's pointing to a loooooong weekend of complete reinstall and reconfiguration :(
[15:33] <bibi23> ubuntu shows randomly some black screen everytime, then I can't do anything but reboot, I've followed this tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTmZYzaxR_k) but I don't see any "additional drivers" detected, my graphic card also appears to be undetected under "system options", what should I do to fix this? thx
[15:33] <phunyguy> codephobic: you could try with a fresh /home/username folder
[15:33] <phunyguy> just to see if your profile is the issue
[15:34] <codephobic> ActionPa1snip, tmp has 9.6GB available, according to nautilus.
[15:34] <phunyguy> or even just rename all your .conf .cache .gconf folders for now
[15:35] <codephobic> phunyguy, would that not cause me problems regarding permissions, configurations and such?
[15:35] <ztane> hi, why is git exactly 1.8.1.2 when I need git 1.8.2 :(
[15:35] <ActionPa1snip> codephobic: that'll do it :)
[15:35] <ActionPa1snip> ztane: try find a PPA
[15:35] <phunyguy> codephobic: not if you just rename the folders in your folder
[15:36] <phunyguy> codephobic: as far as starting fresh with a new profile, you can login as root, rename the folder, create a new one, and chown username:username that folder - and log back in
[15:36] <ActionPa1snip> phunyguy: or make a new ubuntu user and log in....much easier
[15:36] <tekk> can you start an x11 session thats resumable? i.e. inside screen or similar
[15:37] <codephobic> phunyguy, hmm I've never done that before ... been too ... well, chicken really, to mess about with permissions once I've configured a system :(
[15:37] <phunyguy> ActionPa1snip: that too
[15:37] <blazemore> tekk: You mean remotely?
[15:37] <tekk> no i mean
[15:37] <tekk> if i do x11 forwarding
[15:37] <codephobic> k, I'll try creating a new user after I give xfburn a go.
[15:37] <tekk> from my server to my mac for example
[15:37] <tekk> then want to close my mac
[15:37] <tekk> walk around
[15:37] <tekk> come back
[15:37] <FloodBot1> tekk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:37] <tekk> continue where i left off
[15:37] <blazemore> tekk: Sounds like you mean "yes"
[15:38] <codephobic> is xfburn good for windows compatible discs?
[15:38] <tekk> perhaps :p
[15:38] <blazemore> tekk: The terminology you're looking for is "remote desktop", and the technology we tend to use on Linux is
[15:38] <blazemore> !vnc
[15:38] <tekk> i don't wanna run vnc really
[15:38] <ztane> ActionPa1snip: done, do not like ppas too much though
[15:38] <tekk> if i can help it
[15:40] <oal> Is there a good TTS system for Ubuntu that just lets me select text anywhere in the OS, and hit a button for it to be read?
[15:40] <blazemore> But you just described VNC tekk :P
[15:40] <phunyguy> !FreeNX | blazemore: tek, this is what you are looking for
[15:40] <blazemore> I've never used FreeNX but I've heard good things about it
[15:40] <phunyguy> makes it work more like a terminal server
[15:40] <phunyguy> (Windows terminology)
[15:41] <phunyguy> or XenDesktop
[15:41] <oal> I don't know what you were talking about, but since you mentioned VNC and FreeNX: Check out x2go http://wiki.x2go.org
[15:42] <blazemore> There you go, tekk , a veritable smörgåsbord of options :)
[15:42] <tekk> freenx... yes i used that once :) cheers
[15:44] <DT> i have a problem:  Ubuntu 13.04  i just tried removing and purging my amd graphics drivers to re-install, but apt-get is complaining it can't find fglrx files to delete.  I know they are still on my computer because i can pull up catalyst with sudo amdcccle
[15:44] <blazemore> DT: How did you install fglrx?
[15:45] <airking> trying to get cmus to work.  It says there is no output plugin, and in it's ip file, I only see wav.so, and I installed the ffmpeg plugin
[15:45] <DT> through command line
[15:45] <blazemore> DT: Specifically
[15:45] <DT> i'll link the site i used
[15:45] <blazemore> DT: Did you install a package from the repo with apt-get? Or follow some weird guide to get it from AMD?
[15:46] <DT> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide
[15:46] <DT> thats the guide i used
[15:46] <blazemore> DT: Scroll down to "removing"
[15:46] <DT> for catalyst 13.4
[15:46] <DT> i tried that blaze
[15:46] <blazemore> DT: There's a command like "fglrx_uninstall.sh" or similar it tells you about
[15:46] <DT> there is not file fglrx_uninstall.sh, i checked
[15:46] <DT> and the 2nd line complains it cant find files either
[15:46] <blazemore> Did you reboot?
[15:47] <DT> yep, shut down actually and came back up
[15:47] <blazemore> Perhaps amdccle is still installed even if the driver isn't
[15:47] <DT> i thought they were interlinked
[15:47] <airking> Can anyone here help me with cmus?
[15:47] <blazemore> DT: Can you please pastebin the full output of running the command: "sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh; sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:48] <DT> sure, 1 sec
[15:48] <blazemore> !details | dylan
[15:49] <SupaYoshi> Hey is there also support avail. for XBMCBUNTU here? :)
[15:49] <SupaYoshi> Im having sound issues with my ION 330, and I tried serveral ~/.asoundrc settings already
[15:49] <tekk> trying x2go btw
[15:49] <SupaYoshi> none of them seems to help. even though guides say it should be.
[15:49] <Ari-Yang> Hello, is there some keyboard combo on ubuntu that whenever you click on a window it asks you to close it? and when you type you can't backspace or use the 'Enter' key to send msgs for e.g. on IRC
[15:49] <tekk> freenx is old and doesn't work on modern macs
[15:50] <Ari-Yang> to get rid of it I had to log out and back in
[15:50] <OerHeks> airking or dylan, nice to change your name within a question, how did you install cmus?
[15:50] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: If it's specifically xbmcbuntu related I think there's another channel for it, however ask your question and we shall see. I'll need more details including the output of the command "cat /etc/issue; uname -a"
[15:50] <illum> I know this is the ubuntu channel but would anyone mind helping me with some regex?
[15:50] <SupaYoshi> Linux XBMCWOONKAMER 3.5.0-39-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 13 18:35:04 UTC i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[15:51] <DT> paste.ubuntu.com/6066975/
[15:51] <blazemore> illum: Ask it quick before someone who cares says no
[15:51] <SupaYoshi> But i will check i found some more stuff
[15:51] <OerHeks> airking or dylan, see this german page, might be a help with the proper way to install and plugin > http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/cmus
[15:51] <DT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066975
[15:51] <illum> I need to replace everything that isn't 0-9 */+-
[15:51] <illum> P.S Thank y ou blazemore
[15:51] <phunyguy> !ot | illum
[15:51] <blazemore> Can you change to another directory and then run the second one (the apt-get command) again?
[15:52] <blazemore> DT ^
[15:52] <DT> sure 1 moment
[15:52] <DT> any particular directory?
[15:52] <blazemore> DT: Any that doesn't have debs in
[15:52] <blazemore> DT: What's happening is the shell is expanding fglrx_* because there's files that match that in your current directory
[15:52] <blazemore> DT: So it thinks you're saying "apt-get remove fglrx_12.104-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb" which doesn't make sense :)
[15:53] <DT> ah
[15:53] <DT> well it looks like it may have fixed it
[15:53] <blazemore> yup :)
[15:53] <DT> says most of the stuff was already uninstalled
[15:53] <blazemore> It's non-obvious I'll admit
[15:53] <DT> put in particular it uninstalled amdcccle
[15:53] <blazemore> Don't forget to install the open source driver again, instructions on your guide page
[15:53] <ergotron> does ubuntu run under windows?
[15:54] <blazemore> ergotron: Windows and ubuntu are both operating systems
[15:54] <blazemore> ergotron: Ubuntu runs on your computer without Windows
[15:54] <Ari-Yang> ergotron, Ubuntu is a linux distro...
[15:54] <Ari-Yang> ergotron, and linux and windows are 2 different OS
[15:54] <phunyguy> !wubi | ergotron, this is closest I think.
[15:54] <blazemore> phunyguy: Why would you even mention that to new users? You'll only have to support them in 2 days time?
[15:54] <DT> appreciate it blaze, now i know to look out for that in the future
[15:55] <phunyguy> blazemore??
[15:55] <blazemore> phunyguy: Sorry, I just see a LOT of wubi issues in here and imo its more trouble than its worth
[15:55] <phunyguy> because that's what we are here for.
[15:55] <dwatkins> ergotron: to answer your question, no - Ubuntu runs instead of Windows, if it's installed or you are booted from an Ubuntu USB live image
[15:55] <phunyguy> he asked a question.
[15:56] <moxie> hello
[15:56] <path0gen> hola
[15:56] <moxie> has anyone a "wubi"
[15:56] <ergotron> i dont get why it runs on the browser, but i cant find a way to install it locally
[15:56] <blazemore> moxie: Are you having problems with wubi? :o
[15:56] <path0gen> ^
[15:57] <blazemore> ergotron: It's not running on the browser that's just a marketing thing
[15:57] <blazemore> ergotron: It's a fake mockup advert
[15:57] <ergotron> http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/
[15:57] <ergotron> its running fine in my browser
[15:57] <blazemore> ergotron: Please read my last two messages to you
[15:58] <blazemore> I have to go home now, good luck all with your outstanding issues
[15:58] <ergotron> i got chrome
[15:58] <path0gen> my issues are outstanding, ty
[15:58] <blazemore> ergotron: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[15:58] <ergotron> and i said install it as a web app
[15:58] <ergotron> and it works
[15:58] <ergotron> but not all the way
[15:58] <ergotron> :(
[15:58] <blazemore> I'm so glad I'm leaving right now
[15:58] <moxie> ubuntu is running my brouwsers fine
[15:58] <phunyguy> ergotron: that's because it not Ubuntu. It is a website.
[15:59] <phunyguy> it's*
[15:59] <ergotron> this is 2013, it should be a web app
[15:59] <blazemore> OK ergotron if you go to ford.com and look at a picture of a car... you don't have that car
[15:59] <moxie> i have runned a website with ubuntu also becasue it can do it
[15:59] <blazemore> ergotron: bad troll is bad.
[15:59] <phunyguy> ergotron: Ubuntu is an operating system, not a web app.
[15:59] <ergotron> ugh
[15:59] <ergotron> im confused :(
[15:59] <zol> Hi! The sound stops working after the login screen (I hear the drum beats at startup however), I think it stopped working after I did a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade.
[15:59] <blazemore> just ignore him
[15:59] <path0gen> TIL Ubuntu is not a web app
[15:59] <tenc> ^^
[15:59] <blazemore> zol: use the "alsamixer" command to check your volume levels
[16:00] <zol> blazemore: I did, none are muted and all are non-zero.
[16:00] <ergotron> moxie, can you install it and have it work in offline mode?
[16:00] <ergotron> it doesnt work.
[16:00] <zol> http://askubuntu.com/questions/291165/sound-problems-after-upgading-to-13-04 -- tried this too.
[16:00] <moxie> im not sure the browser ubuntu supports sending keystrokes to amazon
[16:01] <moxie> you download it
[16:01] <moxie> for that
[16:01] <moxie> rootkit your computer with ubuntuzon
[16:01] <phunyguy> moxie: ergotron, please stop.
[16:01] <path0gen> moxie you protroll
[16:01] <phunyguy> do you have actual support questions?
[16:01] <ergotron> im trying to get it installed
[16:02] <ergotron> i see a link to a iso
[16:02] <moxie> im trying to sync my tomboys
[16:02] <phunyguy> !install | ergotron
[16:02] <path0gen> ergotron: the .iso is the first step in the installation process
[16:02] <path0gen> ergotron: you mount this .iso file (google this)
[16:02] <ergotron> wish it was an .exe
[16:02] <ergotron> i hate to burn a dvd
[16:02] <phunyguy> ergotron: so use wubi.
[16:02] <moxie> i just shutdown my computer in the browser one and it worked great
[16:02] <path0gen> you do not need to burn  a dvd
[16:03] <path0gen> google: mounting .iso
[16:03] <phunyguy> !google | path0gen
[16:03] <path0gen> ok
[16:03] <path0gen> sorry
[16:03] <path0gen> new here
[16:03] <ergotron> im installing ubuntu so i can run this ruby script
[16:03] <Ashva> Hi, I have a Vaio laptop Z series, I have problem with my wireless card. I googled that and in intel web site I found a fireware which they said can help me.  It is iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode I have no Idea what to do with this firmware. Can some one help me on how to make my wireless card to work with this firmware?
[16:03] <ergotron> i need to know if the nsa has spyware on my computer
[16:04] <moxie> does it have a windows 8 logo ?
[16:04] <phunyguy> Ashva: place that file in /lib/firmware
[16:04] <dwatkins> ergotron: there are ruby interpretters for other operating systems
[16:04] <moxie> TPM 2.0 chip?
[16:04] <path0gen> dwatkins: he trolling
[16:04] <moxie> or uefi firmware
[16:04] <moxie> if so, it is rootkitted
[16:04] <dwatkins> path0gen: oh right
[16:04] <phunyguy> so is moxie
[16:04] <ergotron> dwatkins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6066949/
[16:04] <Ashva> phunyguy: thanks for reply, I did , but what should I do next?
[16:05] <dwatkins> ergotron: that tells me that the script simply isn't in the path
[16:05] <phunyguy> Ashva: reboot, or reload the iwlwifi module in terminal via sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi; sudo modprobe iwlwifi
[16:05] <wilee-nilee> Ashva, this is to help on a linux/ubuntu install says intel?
[16:05] <moxie> Win8 / TPM 2.0 / UEFI rootkit talk isnt trolling
[16:05] <moxie> but you can feel that way if you want
[16:05] <dwatkins> moxie: indeed, although a username of "elitehacker" may be
[16:05] <phunyguy> moxie: it is offtopic.
[16:06] <moxie> phunyguy, im requesting a ban then
[16:06] <moxie> please ban me
[16:06] <phunyguy> !ops | moxie would like to be banned
[16:06] <moxie> if real shit is offtopic
[16:06] <dwatkins> wow, that escalated quickluy
[16:06] <path0gen> -_-
[16:07] <moxie> actually im losing wood
[16:07] <ergotron> ok the dl is finished
[16:07] <moxie> faster
[16:07] <sliddjur_> is there a imagewriter gui app for ubuntu? i heard about an app actually called "imagewriter", but software center doesnt want me to download it
[16:07] <zol> So, anyone else got recommendations on how I can get my sound back?
[16:07] <zol> huh
[16:07] <zol> alsamixer worked now
[16:08] <Ashva> phunyguy: I did that but problem still remains
[16:08] <ergotron> where is the setup.exe ?
[16:08] <ergotron> i cant find it
[16:08] <phunyguy> Ashva: then your issue was not firmware.
[16:08] <phunyguy> ops, please see ergotron as well.
[16:08] <OerHeks> ergotron, read the info ubottu gave you.
[16:08] <zol> Time to learn Prolog! \o/
[16:09] <Ashva> phunyguy: well at first I was looking for my wireless card driver
[16:09] <moxie> i hope comet ison his canonical headquarters
[16:09] <phunyguy> Ashva: I have the same wireless adapter, works out of the box for me.
[16:10] <phunyguy> wow, and moxie has a hostmask.
[16:10] <phunyguy> Ashva: what version of ubuntu?
[16:10] <Ashva> phunyguy: my wireless card is Centrino advanced-N 6235
[16:11] <Ashva> phunyguy: 12.04
[16:11] <phunyguy> hmm let me see what mine is, it's close.
[16:12] <phunyguy> Ashva: please pastebin the output of dmesg
[16:12] <phunyguy> or anything in it that seems related
[16:12] <ergotron> hmm.. maybe gentoo will be easier to install
[16:12] <dwatkins> now even I think you're trolling, ergotron.
[16:12] <phunyguy> he is.
[16:12] <Ashva> phunyguy: fine, wait a minute
[16:13] <phunyguy> oh, I have 6205
[16:13] <phunyguy> Ashva: also what kernel version are you on?
[16:13] <Ari-Yang> ergotron, if gentoo is easier, go for it, good luck.
[16:14] <Ashva> phunyguy: I think it's 3.5
[16:14] <Ari-Yang> Ashva, open a terminal and type uname -r
[16:14] <phunyguy> I am thinking that wifi adapter may even be too new for the 3.5 kernel
[16:15] <Ashva> phunyguy: it's 3.5.0-23-generic
[16:15] <phunyguy> Ashva: you may need an update
[16:15] <Ashva> Ari-Yang: thanks for help
[16:15] <Ari-Yang> you're welcome
[16:15] <phunyguy> have you updated your system after install?
[16:15] <Ashva> phunyguy: nope
[16:15] <ergotron> Ashva, just type "windows update" in the command line
[16:15] <mistawright> hey guys looking for some input. I will be setting up a ec2 instance and using it to have customers upload csv files. The files need to be kept in that users directory when uploaded as well. What ftp daemons do you guys recommend for a corporate site
[16:15] <ergotron> it should update for you
[16:16] <Ashva> phunyguy: than problem will be solved?!
[16:16] <Ari-Yang> ergotron, this isn't windows
[16:16] <phunyguy> !info linux-generic-lts-quantal precise | Ashva
[16:17] <phunyguy> Ashva: I can't guarantee that, but you have a better chance of it working
[16:17] <Ludovik> Wish I could get my XFCE to look this awesome: http://xwinman.org/screenshots/xfce-default.jpg
[16:17] <phunyguy> Ashva: if that doesn't work, you may try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Proposed_12.04.3_.2B-_13.04_Hardware_Enablement_Stack_Policies_and_Procedures
[16:17] <phunyguy> !ot | Ludovik
[16:17] <Xfaulz> Hello guys, I installed and setup cryptswap, and I also use PAE support, I run on a 32-bit distro, I have 4GB ram, when I type "free -m", it gives me:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cachedMem:          3631       3433        197          0         22       2061-/+ buffers/cache:       1348       2282Swap:         5504          0       5504, it says I only have 4GB ram? what the hell, I heard PAE support gives you 7GB ram or s
[16:17] <Xfaulz> omething if you have 4GB RAM, and is cryptswap the cause for this?
[16:17] <Xfaulz> Hello guys, I installed and setup cryptswap, and I also use PAE support, I run on a 32-bit distro, I have 4GB ram, when I type "free -m", it gives me:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cachedMem:          3631       3433        197          0         22       2061-/+ buffers/cache:       1348       2282Swap:         5504          0       5504, it says I only have 4GB ram? what the hell, I heard PAE support gives you 7GB ram or s
[16:17] <Xfaulz> omething if you have 4GB RAM, and is cryptswap the cause for this?
[16:17] <FloodBot1> Xfaulz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:17] <Xfaulz> Hello guys, I installed and setup cryptswap, and I also use PAE support, I run on a 32-bit distro, I have 4GB ram, when I type "free -m", it gives me:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cachedMem:          3631       3433        197          0         22       2061-/+ buffers/cache:       1348       2282Swap:         5504          0       5504, it says I only have 4GB ram? what the hell, I heard PAE support gives you 7GB ram or s
[16:17] <d1gital> !paste | Xfaulz
[16:18] <dwatkins> ergotron: it's wuapp.exe, in fact
[16:18] <Ashva> phunyguy: dmesg output: http://dpaste.com/1366997/
[16:18] <Xfaulz> d1gital: Hello guys, I installed and setup cryptswap, and I also use PAE support, I run on a 32-bit distro, I have 4GB ram, when I type "free -m", it gives me:              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cachedMem:          3631       3433        197          0         22       2061-/+ buffers/cache:       1348       2282Swap:         5504          0       5504, it says I only have 4GB ram? what the hell, I heard PAE support gives you 7GB
[16:18] <Xfaulz>  ram or something if you have 4GB RAM, and is cryptswap the cause for this?
[16:19] <phunyguy> Xfaulz: why did you repaste AGAIN?
[16:19] <smoores> I have a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 server. I'm changing /etc/network/interfaces to use a static ip. When I `sudo service networking restart` it would appear that the networking service was never running. Is this normal / what do I need to do to refresh networking with the new changes?
[16:19] <Xfaulz> phunyguy: I don't know.
[16:21] <SolarisBoy> smoores: most likely network-manager was running your interfaces by default
[16:21] <Ashva> Ari-Yang: yeah your right it doesn't work
[16:21] <SolarisBoy> i believe whatever is present within the interfaces file will also be ignored by NM
[16:21] <phunyguy> SolarisBoy: correct.
[16:22] <smoores> How would I get of network-manager then?
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> Ashva, what doesn't work? .__.
[16:22]  * Ari-Yang scratches head
[16:22] <Ashva> windows update ;)
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> I don't recall saying something that won't work to you
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> oh
[16:22] <SolarisBoy> smoores: maybe you dont need to - is there an issue?
[16:22] <phunyguy> SolarisBoy: he did say ubuntu server though
[16:22] <phunyguy> which means no networkmanager
[16:22] <smoores> SolarisBoy: ubuntu server needs static ip, not dhcp.
[16:22] <SolarisBoy> phunyguy: ahh ok
[16:22] <smoores> Brand new fresh install of ubuntu server 12.04.
[16:23] <phunyguy> smoores: please pastebin contents of /etc/network/interfaces
[16:23] <Rad-> Does anyone know what -z does in bash scripting?
[16:23] <SolarisBoy> check if a var is empty
[16:23] <phunyguy> Rad-: #bash might
[16:23] <SolarisBoy> Rad-: ^
[16:24] <smoores> phunyguy: SolarisBoy  http://pastebin.com/pZPHqKcz
[16:24] <Rad-> ty
[16:24] <Ashva> Ari-Yang: no you didn't I meant your mention to "windows update"
[16:25] <phunyguy> smoores: that looks OK.  you said the networking service was not running?
[16:25] <Ari-Yang> kk
[16:25] <Xfaulz> hey guys, is installing windows 7 on a virtualbox is harmful?
[16:25] <phunyguy> Xfaulz: no.
[16:25] <smoores> phunyguy: i logged into my fresh server install, edited interfaces to look like that and did `sudo service networking restart` which  gave me 'stop: unknown instance. networking stop/waiting'
[16:25] <SolarisBoy> Xfaulz: nope
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> Xfaulz  no, delete the virtual machine and it's gone
[16:26] <phunyguy> smoores: weird.
[16:26] <phunyguy> smoores: try a reboot.
[16:26] <SolarisBoy> phunyguy: do you have any dhclient process running?
[16:26] <sipior> Xfaulz: to answer your earlier question, be sure that you have memory remapping enabled in the bios.
[16:26] <phunyguy> SolarisBoy: I do, but I am not smoores
[16:26] <smoores> SolarisBoy: i do
[16:26] <SolarisBoy> oops
[16:26] <Xfaulz> memory remapping>?
[16:26] <sipior> Xfaulz: yep.
[16:26] <SolarisBoy> smoores: need to figure out what spawned that process -
[16:27] <Xfaulz> I have Compaq 435, where is that option in my BIOS, sipior?
[16:27] <sipior> Xfaulz: how the hell would i know? reboot and have a look.
[16:27] <smoores> SolarisBoy: its a fresh install, so it autoconfigured dhcp, probably.
[16:27] <SolarisBoy> right on
[16:27] <phunyguy> smoores: did you install a desktop environment with your install?
[16:27] <smoores> no.
[16:27] <phunyguy> ok good.
[16:27] <sipior> Xfaulz: not all bios support the option, sadly.
[16:27] <phunyguy> try a reboot.
[16:27] <Xfaulz> phunyguy: you are not so helpful.
[16:28] <Xfaulz> phunyguy: can you try to answer, more simply..etc
[16:28] <Ashva> phunyguy, Ari-Yang; thank you very much for your help and time, I appreciate that.
[16:28] <Xfaulz> phunyguy: you often confuse people around here.
[16:28] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[16:28] <Xfaulz> anyways, ill have a look sipior
[16:28] <phunyguy> Xfaulz: unfortunately, that would be the best solution for smoores and initial troubleshooting
[16:28] <Xfaulz> ill try going to hp's site and look for that option
[16:28] <sover> You guys  got time for a quick question about displays?
[16:28] <SolarisBoy> i think he could also kill the dhclient process and bounce networking again
[16:28] <SolarisBoy> should do it
[16:29] <phunyguy> ask away sover
[16:29] <sover> How can I pull the screen resolution without starting X?
[16:29] <SolarisBoy> ifdown eth0 even
[16:29] <chaotic_good> so if ps aux shows an rsync START dat as jult 12
[16:29] <smoores> SolarisBoy: phunyguy i have rebooted. ifconfig is showing me my static settings. networking service is still not running. dhclient is also not working. machine can't get out
[16:29] <chaotic_good> can I assume this thing has bene running since july?
[16:30] <chaotic_good> oddly the TIME coumn only has 1:05
[16:30] <chaotic_good> column
[16:30] <SolarisBoy> smoores: you shouldn't need dhclient with a static - do you have a gateway configured? route -n
[16:30] <sover> I feel it's clear than after boot, the OS knows the resolution (and so sizes the text and borders to fit it)
[16:30] <phunyguy> also check out your /etc/resolv.conf
[16:30] <sover> but without X running, I can't use Xrandr
[16:30] <phunyguy> sover: are you using an nvidia or ati card?
[16:31] <sover> raspberry pi.
[16:31] <phunyguy> sover: and do you have restricted drivers installed
[16:31] <phunyguy> hrmm..
[16:31] <phunyguy> not sure what that uses
[16:31] <smoores> SolarisBoy: phunyguy resolv.conf was empty all of a sudden
[16:31] <smoores> i added my nameservers and i'm getting out
[16:31] <phunyguy> smoores: that would do it
[16:31] <auronandace> !resolvconf | smoores
[16:32] <phunyguy> auronandace: ubuntu server.
[16:32] <SolarisBoy> smoores: thats because its being overwritten by something
[16:32] <sover> phunyguy: looks like '- GPU: Broadcom VideoCore IV, OpenGL ES 2.0, 1080p30 h.264/MPEG-4 AVC high-profile decoder'
[16:32] <SolarisBoy> usually dhclient and things like that will overwrite it - like auronandace suggested you may want resolvconf
[16:32] <phunyguy> if you set static IP, resolvconf does nothing
[16:32] <SolarisBoy> maybe not - if you dont switch a bunch of networks
[16:32] <SolarisBoy> then - resolvconf is useless
[16:33] <phunyguy> :)
[16:33] <SolarisBoy> and /etc/resolv.conf is your answer - and the real answer is to stop the dhclient from running...like i said.
[16:33] <phunyguy> SolarisBoy: he did.
[16:33] <phunyguy> and he is working.
[16:33] <SolarisBoy> so whatever is startig it stop it - in the past i have removed dhclient =)
[16:33] <SolarisBoy> oh cool
[16:33] <smoores> so, add dns-nameservers to /etc/network/interfaces and i'm good?
[16:34] <phunyguy> smoores: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180925/how-to-setup-static-ip-in-ubuntu-server-12-04
[16:34] <sover> How about this one then.  Let's say I'm running X, but no window manager, no desktop.  I'm running startx /usr/sbin/chromium, how can I use xrandr over ssh?  I've tried xrandr -d :0.0 as root to no avail.
[16:34] <SolarisBoy> yea he purged the dhclient
[16:35] <phunyguy> smoores: if you use that option, it will tell resolvconf how to handle it properly, so yes.
[16:35] <phunyguy> (Sorry, been on Gentoo too long, going from memory)
[16:35] <smoores> adding dns-nameservesr to interfaces worked fine
[16:35] <smoores> apt-get removed dhcp-client says can't remove virtual package
[16:36] <phunyguy> yeah leave that be
[16:36] <smoores> but yeah, i'm good now. did a reboot and dns-namservers in interfaces fixed it
[16:36] <phunyguy> sudo apt-get -f install if you have to.
[16:36] <SolarisBoy> probably linked to something huge
[16:36] <SolarisBoy> sweet
[16:36] <phunyguy> lunch time, later all.
[16:36] <LinuxGold> is there a way to get screen to output a result?
[16:36] <SolarisBoy> gnu screen? LinuxGold ?
[16:36] <LinuxGold> console screen
[16:37] <LinuxGold> a detached screen -- making a daemon to get output into a file
[16:37] <SolarisBoy> not sure what you mean.
[16:37] <SolarisBoy> oh
[16:37] <SolarisBoy> so gnu screen. sure start the daemon with redirection to the file within your detachced session
[16:37] <sover> LinuxGold: maybe I'm not hearing you right, does appending not >> work.log?
[16:38] <SolarisBoy> or enable logging on all windows?
[16:38] <LinuxGold> for example, on a minecraft server, I started with screen -d and want to get seed id from minecraft, i use seed
[16:39] <SolarisBoy> where is the seed in a log our output from that program? then you can redirect that program to a file in your screen configuration
[16:39] <SolarisBoy> you can also just enable logging in screen if that program prints to stderr/out
[16:39] <LinuxGold> server.log
[16:39] <SolarisBoy> another thing you can do is just cat the server.log.. in or out of screen. its a file
[16:40] <sover> maybe tail -f server.log | grep seed >> seeds.log?
[16:40] <LinuxGold> what is the command to inject a script?
[16:40] <darkangel> What is Cache to Ubuntu?
[16:41] <darkangel> what is Cache Memory
[16:41] <SolarisBoy> darkangel: all types of cache(s)
[16:41] <SolarisBoy> LinuxGold: what do you mean inject a script? you mean to run a command within screen?
[16:41] <sduncan> has anyone upgraded from kernel 3.8.0-29 to 3.8.0-30 and had their display brightness completely stop working?
[16:41] <LinuxGold> yes
[16:41] <sduncan> on 13.04, that is
[16:41] <LinuxGold> run a command within screen from daemon
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> LinuxGold: the default shortcut is CTRL+A :
[16:42] <helloworld> hei
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> i dont know about running commands from daemon but that will provide the prompt to enter a screen command
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> if you want to run a new command in a new window you would do something like CTRL + A + : screen <command>
[16:43] <sover> phunyguy: thanks for help, btw.  I found the solution for the chromium on xOrg problem
[16:43] <helloworld> why were these happend?
[16:43] <sover> sudo -u user xrandr
[16:43] <LinuxGold> SolarisBoy: ctrl + A require user intervention?
[16:43] <helloworld> Does anyone see me?
[16:44] <phunyguy> !ask | helloworld
[16:44] <SolarisBoy> CTRL + A is only the default escape sequence allowing to insert a command, so yes it would always require intervention
[16:44] <phunyguy> ooops, supposed to be at lunch
[16:44] <sover> !ask | sover
[16:44] <darkangel> why does Ubuntu use all the free Memory for Cache what does it do to it?
[16:44] <SolarisBoy> darkangel: linux does that -
[16:44] <darkangel> aww
[16:45] <darkangel> Does Cach = Speed?
[16:45] <darkangel> cache*
[16:45] <auronandace> !linuxatemyram | darkangel
[16:45] <auronandace> !memory | darkangel
[16:45] <darkangel> i know about that just tryin to get more understanding of it
[16:46] <sipior> darkangel: if you've just accessed a file, you're likely to do so again in the near future. buffer cache helps to mitigate disk latency.
[16:46] <darkangel> NICE
[16:47] <darkangel> so If u had 32 GB RAM it would use Mem Cache for all of it instead of the stuff ur running now
[16:47] <twiztednate> Hi I'm looking for someone to help a newb out on getting intel drivers installed on Ubuntu
[16:48] <Rad-> I can't install guest editions. What directory mount point does the cd go to (I don't have gnome/unity/etc)
[16:48] <sipior> darkangel: not all, but most. otherwise, you're wasting memory and time, waiting for disk i/o that could be cached.
[16:48] <SolarisBoy> Rad-: i believe it is under /usr/share/virtualbox somewhere
[16:48] <Rad-> there doesn't seem to be anything in /dev/cdrom
[16:48] <darkangel> awww ok
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> darkangel: its pretty much handled internally
[16:49] <darkangel> OOHHH so it uses Cache to Save HDD time and not use the HDD so much
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> yes
[16:49] <ALLTHECODE> How hard is it to set up two installs of ubuntu on one machine that use the same home directory?
[16:49] <darkangel> got ya
[16:49] <SolarisBoy> amongst other things
[16:50] <Rad-> SolarisBoy:  i mean i have ubuntu guest?
[16:50] <gordonjcp> ALLTHECODE: not hard at all
[16:50] <ALLTHECODE> gordonjcp: how do you do it?
[16:50] <Rad-> one place said there is virtualbox-guest-additions but that package doesn't seem to exist anymore
[16:50] <ALLTHECODE> i want to run two different versions on the same machine
[16:50] <gordonjcp> ALLTHECODE: just mount the same /home partition in both installs
[16:50] <ALLTHECODE> also, I have an encrypted home folder
[16:50] <SolarisBoy> Rad-: in vbox hit the install guest additions option
[16:50] <Rad-> yeah. but i need to find where it mounts to SolarisBoy
[16:50] <SolarisBoy> Rad-: then in the guest - there will be a new /dev added
[16:50] <gordonjcp> ALLTHECODE: bear in mind that some applications that save stuff in your home directory might get into a bit of a fight over different file versions
[16:51] <ALLTHECODE> oh... yeah I didn't make home its own partition
[16:51] <SolarisBoy> Rad-: sudo mount -a has worked in the passt - then check and see if you have a /mnt/cdrom or something
[16:51] <Rad-> vboxusb SolarisBoy ?
[16:51] <gordonjcp> ALLTHECODE: no biggie, make a backup, resize your partition and create one
[16:51] <SolarisBoy> virtualbox application UI
[16:51] <ALLTHECODE> how do you tell ubuntu your home dir moved?
[16:51] <gordonjcp> ALLTHECODE: you don't
[16:51] <gordonjcp> ALLTHECODE: just mount it
[16:51] <gordonjcp> ALLTHECODE: ensure it's mounted under /home
[16:51] <SolarisBoy> there is an option for each virtual machine to install guest additions, when you hit it, it invokes a hardware addition of a CD drive with the VBOXGUESTADDITION iso
[16:51] <ALLTHECODE> but I would be moving it to a parition right?
[16:52] <Rad-> SolarisBoy:  nope
[16:52] <gordonjcp> ALLTHECODE: yes, but the paths will remain the same
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> it doesn't automount in all cases - you need to look at dmesg
[16:52] <ALLTHECODE> oh I see... so when it mounts, it mounts to the same place
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> and see what got added
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> but that is generally how to install the correct guest additions
[16:52] <darkangel> If u Have LOW Video Memory like 128 MB would it use RAM to back it up for more Memory for Games?
[16:53] <gordonjcp> ALLTHECODE: correct
[16:53] <gordonjcp> !mount | ALLTHECODE
[16:53] <ALLTHECODE> sorry I'm a bit new to this
[16:53]  * gordonjcp -> off
[16:53] <gordonjcp> ALLTHECODE: it's pretty straightforward
[16:54] <jdavis> Is there any way to keep doing the software update without forcing a reboot? In the past couple releases I reboot more than windows!
[16:54] <Rad-> SolarisBoy:  it just says tty1 ended
[16:54] <gordonjcp> jdavis: not easily
[16:54] <gordonjcp> jdavis: which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[16:54] <Rad-> (when i relogged in)
[16:55] <darkangel> wow they have 3.8.0.30 Generic for 12.04 LTS
[16:55] <SolarisBoy> http://helpdeskgeek.com/linux-tips/install-virtualbox-guest-additions-in-ubuntu/
[16:55] <Rad-> mounting didn't do anything
[16:55] <darkangel> last time i known that was 13.04 generric
[16:55] <jdavis> gordonjcp: just updated to 13.04
[16:55] <jdavis> But I had the same problem on 11.10
[16:55] <jdavis> I mean 12.10
[16:55] <Rad-> SolarisBoy:  nothing in /media
[16:55] <Xfaulz> I usually run 32bit distros, but can I run 64bit distros? I have 4GB ram, I currently run a distro with PAE support.
[16:56] <darkangel> 12.10 is a mess last time i heard here
[16:56] <SolarisBoy> Rad-: did you check to see the device name first before trying to mount it?
[16:56] <SolarisBoy> in messages or dmesg?
[16:56] <Rad-> SolarisBoy:  i'm not too familiar with mhttp://helpdeskgeek.com/linux-tips/install-virtualbox-guest-additions-in-ubuntu/
[16:56] <Rad-> dmesg tbh*
[16:56] <SolarisBoy> i dont know your setup but as stated it may not automount, in which case you need to look in your logs and find the device name
[16:56] <SolarisBoy> thats all
[16:56] <jdavis> gordonjcp, 12.04 seemed fine... it would suggest a reboot but you could keep doing updates. I don't mind a reboot every few months, but it seems kind of ridiculous that I have to close all of my terminals and browser tabs every week or so.
[16:56] <Guest13263> How do i turn of automatic superscipt of 1 to 3, ie, i want x^2 instead of x²
[16:57] <SolarisBoy> you can even tail the message log while it's occuring to get the device name
[16:57] <cichy> from poland
[16:57] <helloworld> join#django
[17:01] <Guest13263> Anyone has any ideas about the superscript thing?
[17:01] <ikonia> super script ??
[17:01] <Rad-> SolarisBoy: i'll look into it more i guess =\
[17:02] <SolarisBoy> Rad-: one second let me see if there is an easier way.
[17:02] <Guest13263> Ubuntu superscripts the numbers 1 to 3 automaticly, so x^2 becomes x² unless you press space inbetween, makes octave a pain
[17:02] <Guest13263> So how do i turn that off? :'-(
[17:02] <ikonia> turn what off ?
[17:03] <Guest13263> The automatic superscripting, x²
[17:03] <ikonia> what automatic superscripting ?? what are you talking about
[17:04] <Pici> Guest13263: What applications are you seeing this in? all of them?
[17:04] <Guest13263> Yes, all
[17:04] <ikonia> what is superscripting ???
[17:05] <SolarisBoy> when you script things out really well
[17:05] <SolarisBoy> doi
[17:05] <Pici> ikonia: x^2 becomes x²
[17:05] <Guest13263> Like a squared, you know, you type the 2 in the "right top corner" of the variable
[17:05] <ikonia> I have no idea what you are talking about, and I've never heard of super scripting
[17:06] <Pici> I've honestly never seen that happen automatically, but I'm a cli junkie.
[17:06] <Rad-> Pici:  how did you do that
[17:06] <Pici> its a font thing ikonia
[17:06] <Pici> Rad-: do what?
[17:06] <Rad-> < Pici> ikonia: x^2 becomes x²
[17:06] <Guest13263> Why would anyone ever want this to happen? :-(
[17:06] <Pici> Rad-: I copy and pasted what Guest13263 said earlier.
[17:06] <Rad-> =[
[17:06] <Rad-> lol
[17:07] <ruediger> Guest13263: do you have deadkeys enabled in your keyboard layout?
[17:07] <Rad-> I wonder if irssi can do LaTeX
[17:07] <SolarisBoy> does this happen every where you type or just in some application you use?
[17:08] <Rad-> SolarisBoy:  are you talking to me or..?
 Ill try to check. Yes, everywhere, even terminal
[17:09] <Guest13263> I dont really know how to check for deadkeys, any hints? :-)
[17:09] <ruediger> Guest13263: somewhere in the keyboard layout settings.
[17:10] <ruediger> Guest13263: I'm not using unity/gnome.  So I don't really know.
[17:10] <Guest13263> Yeah, I did not have "Eliminate dead keys", i enabled it, still the same, would i need a restart or something?
[17:10] <ruediger> Guest13263: yeah probably
[17:11] <Guest13263> It is now fixed, thank you so much :-D
[17:12] <ruediger> Guest13263: great!  Yeah dead keys can be very annoying
[17:16] <karab44> Hello I can not find it out where to set/change shortcut path on unity launcher
[17:16] <karab44> I have two shortcuts, that does not work. I want to point correct directory for binaries.
[17:16] <wdy43di> Anyone have experience with Wordpress and 13.04?
[17:17] <karab44> by saying shortcut I mean a link with icon
[17:17] <dbb> hi all - I have a really basic question about cron.. if I have a script in /usr/local/bin/ that I want to run as my login, and I put an alias to it in /etc/cron.daily/   is there anything else I have to do ?
[17:18] <SolarisBoy> karab44: easiest way i found is to create an icon on your desktop , start the app and then lock  that into unity
[17:18] <karab44> I locked it on launcher after I executed my app, then I set lock on launcher. After I quit from app, link didn't work anymore
[17:18] <SolarisBoy> karab44: the downfall of that i found is that the icon needs to stay on your desktop
[17:19] <karab44> I can fix it in the script, just tell me where are these scripts
[17:20] <karab44> I want to make it right
[17:20] <karab44> SolarisBoy: I'll try this method, I think I did like that before
[17:20] <SolarisBoy> kk
[17:22] <karab44> SolarisBoy: does that shortcuts have to be on desktop? Can not stay in app folder?
[17:23] <karab44> hehe, well SolarisBoy it doesn't work either
[17:23] <SolarisBoy> ::shrugs::
[17:23] <SolarisBoy> srry
[17:23] <karab44> I try to run eclipse and blender
[17:24] <karab44> these two doesn't install to the system.
[17:24] <kostkon> karab44: there are desktop file editor apps in the software centre
[17:25] <karab44> kostkon: What name should I look for?
[17:25] <ergotron> hmm... im having issues installing microsoft office xp, any1 can help?
[17:25] <kostkon> karab44: dont know, search for desktop, unity, launcher, shortcuts etc
[17:26] <DJones> ergotron: Probably best asking in ##winehq for running Windows app's on Ubuntu
[17:26] <tmmunq> #windows
[17:26] <Monday> ergotron, are you using wine?
[17:26] <SolarisBoy> thsoe are actually int he base install afaik
[17:26] <wdy43di> So anybody available to help me configure WordPress?
[17:26] <kostkon> karab44: you'll eventually find one
[17:26] <SolarisBoy> gnome-desktop-item-edit ~/Desktop/ --create-new | for example karab44
[17:27] <Monday> wdy43di, are you trying to setup a server on ubuntu?
[17:27] <Pici> wdy43di: What sort of help? #wordpress's official channel is here on freenode as well if the questions are specifically for that.
[17:27] <SolarisBoy> they are a part of gnome-panel installation
[17:27] <aazz0> hello, i need to have users on the same machine (all users, also guest) be able to easily share files between them, how do i do that?
[17:28] <wdy43di> Yes Monday I am
[17:28] <Pici> !who
[17:28] <wdy43di> Awesome Pici  Thank you for your guys time.
[17:29] <SolarisBoy> aazz0: make a public folder out of each users home directory -
[17:29] <SolarisBoy> aazz0: /usermount - and assign it the proper permissions to allow access
[17:30] <aazz0> SolarisBoy: sounds complicated (for a beginner like me)
[17:30] <SolarisBoy> 2 steps
[17:30] <karab44> SolarisBoy: It works! and you can easily move this redundant shortcut for example to binary folder (not keep it on Desktop)
[17:30] <dbb> .. I saw some reference to an "allow cron" file somewhere, to let my lognio run a cron job.. unsure if that applies or what..
[17:30] <SolarisBoy> sudo mkdir /usermount and permission the folder. aazz0 should be straight forward
[17:31] <aazz0> for each user?
[17:31] <SolarisBoy> sudo mkdir /usermount and sudo chown 0777 /usermount at it's simplest should allow any user to access it
[17:31] <SolarisBoy> no
[17:31] <SolarisBoy> one time -
[17:31] <karab44> Thank you guys
[17:31] <SolarisBoy> each user would then use /usermount as the "shared" location
[17:32] <aazz0> would then all files in that folder be readable and editable by every user automatically?
[17:32] <aazz0> also guest?
[17:33] <Pici> /70/36
[17:33] <Monday> wdy43di, try these tutorials http://howto.blbosti.com/2010/02/4-easiest-ways-to-install-lamp-server-on-ubuntu/ and http://www.sudo-juice.com/install-lamp-server-ubuntu/
[17:34] <Monday> wdy43di, and you can probably use the software center or package manager to install lamp
[17:36] <Monday> ergotron, i don't have microsoft office XP, but i installed microsoft office 2007 with wine easily if you need help with that
[17:36] <aazz0> thanks
[17:39] <moondoggy> Can someone give me a suggestion about getting a usb stick to automount?  I have 12.04 on a MacBook Pro.
[17:39] <moondoggy> I'm set to automount in dconf, so I think it's an issue with the Mac hardware.
[17:39] <mkanyicy> hi guys
[17:40] <mkanyicy> my laptop does not play any sound until i put earphones
[17:40] <karab44> SolarisBoy: well I'll however stay with the Desktop links :) . After add this app shortcut to Launcher icon makes very awful
[17:41] <mkanyicy> my laptop does not play any sound until i put earphones, the sound settings show "Headphones, Built-in Audio" and nothing else
[17:41] <mkanyicy> Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[17:41] <mkanyicy> Dell Latitude
[17:42] <karab44> SolarisBoy: okay I fixed it! I had to add icon just during creation of this shortcut.
[17:43] <moondoggy> mkanyicy: I haven't totally solved that, but I fix non-functioning speakers / headphones by opening a different sound app.
[17:43] <moondoggy> Usually that resets whatever is messed up.
[17:43] <mkanyicy> moondoggy: there is no sound on the laptop speakers at all, all the time
[17:43] <moondoggy> Playing audio through Firefox fixed my headphones that Spotify couldn't get working.
[17:44] <moondoggy> Well, might not work for you, but that's what I'm referring to.
[17:44] <moondoggy> It's just poke & hope, but it gets my speakers / headphones working.
[17:45] <mkanyicy> moondoggy: its deeper than that, my sound card is not recognized at all
[17:45] <moondoggy> Oh, that's beyond me, then.
[17:46] <hydruid> mkanyicy: model of sound card?
[17:46] <phunyguy> !details | mkanyicy
[17:46] <hydruid> mkanyicy: you sure your should card works?
[17:46] <volneikroeger> Hello all
[17:46] <phunyguy> that's not the one I wanted...
[17:46] <volneikroeger> I need to remove the top panel of unity, is it possible?
[17:47] <phunyguy> volneikroeger: not without using something otehr than Unity
[17:47] <phunyguy> other*
[17:47] <Monday> volneikroeger, maybe try Linux Mint
[17:47] <phunyguy> !mint
[17:48] <phunyguy> do not reccommend mint please.
[17:48] <Monday> its the number one distro on distrowatch now
[17:48] <phunyguy> so?
[17:48] <hydruid> phunyguy: !rude | phunyguy
[17:48] <hydruid> !rude | phunyguy
[17:48] <hydruid> hmm tthat didn't work lol
[17:48] <bazhang> Monday, its not supported here, please dont recommend it
[17:48] <phunyguy> that wasn't rude...
[17:49] <bazhang> hydruid, cut that out
[17:49] <phunyguy> I said please.
[17:49] <hydruid> bazhang: It was a joke.....I apologize
[17:49] <volneikroeger> phunyguy: I try switch compiz for metacity and it work's on some thinclients, but one model continue show the launcher and top bar..
[17:49] <bazhang> hydruid, wrong channel for jokes; #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[17:49] <hydruid> volneikroeger: It's not recommended or supported to remove the bar
[17:49] <hydruid> bazhang: understood
[17:50] <IamTrying> I need URGENT the kernel linux-headers-3.2.0-17-generic  where is it available as .deb ?
[17:51] <phunyguy> IamTrying: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[17:51] <phunyguy> you can search for it if it exists in there
[17:51] <volneikroeger> we need a restricted gnome enviroment for our users, and I always use gnome-classic without panels for this, but in Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome-classic the rdesktop freezes the machines
[17:52] <volneikroeger> it not happen with unity, only with gnome-classic
[17:52] <Monday> volneikroeger, like i said
[17:53] <phunyguy> Monday, stop that! Please!
[17:53] <volneikroeger> Monday: i work a lot in our ltsp image and we don't have time to spend with new distro
[17:53] <Monday> but the current support gnome based desktop environments are Mate and Cinnamon
[17:53] <Ari-Yang> !ar
[17:53] <Ari-Yang> !arb
[17:54] <IamTrying> phunyguy, its completely removed? not there it was stable now gone? http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/kernel/
[17:54] <phunyguy> Monday you were asked nicely.
[17:54] <phunyguy> IamTrying: that I do not know.
[17:55] <Monday> phunyguy, is this a fan club or real support channel?
[17:55] <mR0rI0n> hey im new to linux i was curious about updating a kernel
[17:56] <mR0rI0n> is anyone even here
[17:56] <phunyguy> !patience |mR0rI0n
[17:56] <Gnea> !kernel | mR0rI0n
[17:57] <john_john> how do I choose which program that should start whenever I download a .torrent file?
[17:57] <phunyguy> IamTrying: maybe state your real issue and why you need that kernel version back?
[17:57] <Monday> IdleOne why did you kick me?
[17:57] <jY> is there a api or webservice where i can send like a http request for a package that needs to be upgraded to see what severity it might be?
[17:57] <phunyguy> IamTrying: We might be able to suggest another solution
[17:58] <IamTrying> phunyguy, I have tried all the kernel that is available, none works except that one
[17:58] <IdleOne> Monday: because you were asked nicely not to recommend unsupported distros in here and then you got an attitude with the user who was trying to help you.
[17:58] <mR0rI0n> well im currently on kernel version 3.0 and ver now and again my compter goes into panic mode
[17:58] <mR0rI0n> every*
[17:58] <john_john> anyone?
[17:58] <IamTrying> phunyguy, i had one stable configuration where i have http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/xorg-edgers/oneiric/main/base/linux-image-3.2.0-17-generic  only used there it works but all other kernel keeps crashing my system.
[17:59] <phunyguy> IamTrying: have you tried a quantal kernel? (3.5.x)
[17:59] <phunyguy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[17:59] <IamTrying> phunyguy, yes 3.5 , 3.8 , last one too + reverse version by version NONE of them WORKS
[17:59] <phunyguy> IamTrying: give that a try.
[17:59] <phunyguy> oh
[17:59] <phunyguy> IamTrying: have you filed a bug?
[17:59] <Monday> IdleOne, if Ubuntu cannot provide a solution to the problem, why would you refuse to direct them to a possible solution somewhere else?
[18:00] <IamTrying> phunyguy, i exactly need this one: Linux e300gent 3.2.0-17-generic
[18:00] <phunyguy> Monday: because that isn't what we do here.
[18:00] <phunyguy> IamTrying: have you filed a bug report?
[18:00] <phunyguy> !bug
[18:00] <IamTrying> phunyguy, its being filed but people were suggestion wrong
[18:00] <ergotron> man
[18:00] <ergotron> why does this thing keep asking for my password
[18:00] <IamTrying> phunyguy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1207612
[18:00] <phunyguy> You can't use 3.2.0-17 forever. :)
[18:00] <ergotron> to install a damn printer
[18:01] <IamTrying> phunyguy, i dont need other versions only this one: 3.2.0-17
[18:01] <IamTrying> phunyguy, its for my embedded hardware
[18:01] <phunyguy> IamTrying: ok sorry, I tried.
[18:01] <phunyguy> if there is a bug, not much else I can do from here.
[18:01] <IamTrying> phunyguy, not a bug, just that kernel i need
[18:02] <phunyguy> I see.
[18:02] <volneikroeger> phunyguy: for default metacity show the launcher and top panel or not? for me on some hardware's yes and other hardware not.. very weird
[18:03] <phunyguy> IamTrying: so my question is, what is it about that kernel that you need?
[18:03] <phunyguy> IamTrying: is it missing hardware support?
[18:03] <phunyguy> (I mean are the others)
[18:04] <IamTrying> phunyguy, yes that kernel had Nvidia card + my other usb devices drivers working
[18:04] <phunyguy> You shouldn't have to be locked into one specific kernel version, no matter what hardware you are on.
[18:04] <IamTrying> phunyguy, its my dead line i urgent need to rollback to that kernel
[18:05] <phunyguy> IamTrying: my concern is other packages that depend on the newer version
[18:05] <phunyguy> things that are compiled for that version./
[18:06] <moon`> I've got a laptop with windows 8 on it and a laptop with unbuntu on it.  How do I set it up so when I have an ethernet cable connecting the two laptops I can transfer files between them?
[18:06] <phunyguy> !samba | moon`
[18:06] <phunyguy> well that wasn't what I wanted
[18:06] <sam113101> moon`: you need a crossover cable
[18:07] <keith_> Interesting problem today. After a reboot, all sound becomes distorted - sounds to me like 2 or maybe 3 versions of the same audio very slightly delayed and out of synch. Any ideas where to look?
[18:07] <moon`> crossover cable?
[18:07] <sam113101> yup
[18:07] <moon`> I've got the two machines plugged in together with an ehternet cable, that won't work?
[18:07] <phunyguy> moon`: do you have link lights?
[18:07] <moon`> yes
[18:07] <phunyguy> ok, then you need to share a folder out from one machine
[18:08] <ziadingo> what is social cannel?
[18:08] <phunyguy> ignore the factoid I posted, it is quite wrong.
[18:08] <ziadingo> freenode?
[18:08] <lid6j86> i have a problem trying to purge mono from ubuntu 13.04.  i've tried from the software manager, from synaptic, and from the terminal
[18:08] <moon`> I setup a folder on the windows machine to be shared with the public but I don't see it on the ubuntu machine anywhere
[18:09] <sam113101> can you ping your other machine?
[18:09] <lid6j86> when i try to remove from the terminal it says errors were encountered while processing: libmono-system-net4.0-cil
[18:09] <ziadingo> help me :D
[18:09] <sam113101> try to make them ping each other first
[18:09] <lid6j86> sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:09] <zykotick9> lid6j86: i'd suggest against trying to remove mono, if you use gnome/unity...  (which sucks...)
[18:09] <IamTrying> apt-get build-dep <package_name>  can i use same for linux-header- packages?
[18:09] <phunyguy> moon`: http://www.sitepoint.com/ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-file-sharing-with-samba/ this may help
[18:09] <lid6j86> zykotic, how do i repair it then?
[18:09] <moon`> wait wait, I just got told I need to install the windows sharing service to be able to share on the ubuntu machine by the OS
[18:09] <zykotick9> !tab > lid6j86
[18:09] <lid6j86> i've tried in synaptic and the software manager and it wont let me
[18:10] <moon`> windows network sharing service, sorry
[18:10] <moon`> thanks phunyguy
[18:10] <zykotick9> lid6j86: try "sudo apt-get -f install" from terminal, does it get the same error?
[18:10] <lid6j86> let me try
[18:10] <jY> is there a tool that scans CVE info and says what i should upgrade and what CVE id it's associated with?
[18:10] <IamTrying> phunyguy, That means Ubuntu has some EVIL side. So we need to maintain and manage our own repository right? It seems like most working version is removed by someone intentionally or so
[18:10] <phunyguy> moon`: samba uses cifs which is the same thing Windows uses for sharing files
[18:10] <phunyguy> IamTrying: updates happen./
[18:10] <phunyguy> :(
[18:11] <lid6j86> let me past bin the output
[18:11] <IamTrying> phunyguy, nvm, i will try to make my own repo, cause its very risky how Ubuntu is changing the old versions and not available easyly
[18:11] <phunyguy> ok got work to do, bbl
[18:11] <zykotick9> phunyguy: re:moon` 1) if cable is direct, it may require a crossover cable 2) ip address may need to be manually set on both systems.
[18:12] <lid6j86> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067433/
[18:12] <ergotron> i need to format my gf and put a better os on it. .. she always 'panics' unexpectedly and wants to spawn a child
[18:12] <ergotron> :|
[18:12] <moon`> I don't know what you mean by a crossover cable?
[18:12] <zykotick9> lid6j86: it's just "sudo apt-get -f install" nothing else
[18:12] <lid6j86> i tried it and it still brings up the same error
[18:13] <blazemore> !tab > blazemore
[18:13] <lid6j86> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067436/
[18:13] <zykotick9> lid6j86: when i see "unmet dependencies" i'd guess you either A) manually installed something from a DEB, or B) are mixing repos.  i can't/won't help further.
[18:14] <lid6j86> definitely didn't install anything manually
[18:15] <ObrienDave> moon`==> a crossover cable properly connects 2 ethernet ports for communications between 2 computers without the need for routers, switches, or hubs.
[18:15] <lid6j86> what happened was i was installing monoruntime and monodevelop and my computer froze in the middle
[18:16] <Monday> moon`, something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119156
[18:16] <zykotick9> lid6j86: have you tried installing libmono-corlib4.0-cil and libmono-system4.0-cil
[18:16] <zykotick9> lid6j86: and mono-gac
[18:16] <lid6j86> i have, for all but mono-gac
[18:17] <lid6j86> they are each producing the same error
[18:17] <hydruid> I need to run libc6 version 2.15 with 13.04.....any suggestions which route to take?
[18:17] <zykotick9> lid6j86: "apt-cache policy mono-runtime"
[18:18] <lid6j86> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067444/
[18:18] <ObrienDave> moon`==> if there are routers, switches or hubs between the 2 computers, then ethernet requires straight through cables
[18:19] <lid6j86> when i try to install the individual items it says : dpkg: error processing libmono-system-net4.0-cil (--configure):
[18:19] <lid6j86>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[18:20] <zykotick9> lid6j86: intersting, that looks to be the default ubuntu mono... i got nothing for ya.  best of luck.
[18:20] <zykotick9> lid6j86: you have run "sudo apt-get update" and tried again right?
[18:21] <lid6j86> let me try one more time just to make sure, but i have yea
[18:22] <lid6j86> yea same issue
[18:22] <lid6j86> maybe a boot-repair?
[18:22] <lid6j86> er not boot repair but
[18:22] <zykotick9> lid6j86: good luck...
[18:22] <blazemore> lid6j86: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages
[18:23] <blazemore> lid6j86: That will fix it ^ but it will take 5 mins
[18:23] <lid6j86> what does it do, reload all dependencies?
[18:23] <lid6j86> nevermind, i guess the command is pretty self explanitory
[18:24] <blazemore> It is essentially a "nuke & pave" for your package database
[18:24] <blazemore> It's just a script, it runs the commands on each line in turn. You can see what it does by reading it. I may add comments to each line actually
[18:24] <phunyguy> blazemore: looks nice, well done.
[18:24] <lid6j86> appreciate it blaze
[18:25] <phunyguy> lid6j86: you really should tab complete nicks
[18:25] <Gsport> kudos
[18:25] <lid6j86> tab nicks?
[18:25] <phunyguy> !tab
[18:25] <phunyguy> it helps because it highlights the person you are talking to on their end.
[18:25] <lid6j86> when i tab it just changes focus of text boxes
[18:26] <phunyguy> oh....
[18:26] <phunyguy> web client?
[18:26] <lid6j86> nope
[18:26] <phunyguy> fix your client then. :)
[18:26] <lid6j86> downloaded xchat through the software center
[18:26] <phunyguy> oh xchat should do that.
[18:26] <phunyguy> type phuny and hit tab
[18:27] <lid6j86> ah ok, it's cause i wasn't doing it in the right order
[18:27] <lid6j86> got it now, thanks
[18:27] <phunyguy> np.
[18:27] <ObrienDave> normally 3 letters will suffice for TAB completion. depends on who's in the room
[18:27] <phunyguy> it helps a lot iin busy channels like this
[18:27] <lid6j86> appreciate the help folks
[18:28] <Monday> no one used tab in the last 20 lines
[18:28] <phunyguy> Monday: still trolling I see...
[18:28] <ObrienDave> dont need to if you REALLY follow the conversation
[18:28] <Monday> i know
[18:28] <lid6j86> wow
[18:29] <phunyguy> Monday: I was referring to the half-nicks he was typing.
[18:29] <phunyguy> not the lack of nicks.
[18:29] <lid6j86> blazemore, even doing that process it came back with the same error
[18:29] <moon`> okay, success.  Thank you for the help
[18:29] <phunyguy> lid6j86: there ya go!
[18:29] <caodepalha> can i get some info on how to add new plugins to ardour?
[18:30] <phunyguy> caodepalha: a simple google search with the first link: http://manual.ardour.org/working-with-plugins/
[18:31] <Monday> lid6j86, maybe just try a simple "sudo apt-get autoclean" and try to install it again
[18:31] <phunyguy> Monday: way ahead of you there.
[18:32] <phunyguy> Monday: did you even look at the script that blazemore posted?
[18:33] <phunyguy> blazemore: I would also change that script to remove the sudo commands and then run the command as sudo.
[18:33] <phunyguy> err run the script as sudo
[18:33] <Gsport> This work can yield 50~100% performance improvements and in some cases making the games under Wine faster than on Windows.  This work can yield 50~100% performance improvements and in some cases making the games under Wine faster than on Windows.
[18:33] <Gsport> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ1Mjk
[18:34] <phunyguy> Gsport: please don't spam.
[18:34] <lid6j86> blazemore, negative.  is it possible to do a cd repair or something?
[18:34] <Gsport> 100 % imptovements wow
[18:35] <IamTrying> phunyguy, I need to save from one stable ubuntu box some packages to .deb  so that i can use those package versions and debug. How can i save installed package to something like package1.deb ?
[18:35] <Gsport> that means if a game on windows plays at 1 fps in linux will run over 100 fps
[18:36] <sipior> where to start.
[18:37] <blazemore> lid6j86: Can you please pastebin any error you're getting now?
[18:37] <Gsport> sipior, are you using win8?
[18:37] <blazemore> sipior: ?
[18:37] <phunyguy> Gsport: please stop that
[18:38] <Gsport> the lack of humour on this channel is overwelming
[18:38] <phunyguy> you want humor, go to !ot
[18:38] <phunyguy> !ot
[18:38] <lid6j86> blazemore, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067518/
[18:39] <phunyguy> Gsport: you have to realize, there are almost 1800 users in here.  There simply is too much activity to allow humor.
[18:40] <Jarvis> is there any drunken_monk here ?
[18:40] <Gsport> i bet ubuntu-offtopic is full of grumpy trolls with a thisrdt for vengeance
[18:40] <phunyguy> Gsport: you were asked nicely.
[18:40] <imark> for some stupid reason lightdm depends on unity, can i install lightdm without pulling in unity and all of its extensive dependencies and related applications?
[18:40] <Monday> honestly, for almost 1800 users this channel isn't that active
[18:40] <ObrienDave> obviously Gsport does not understand basic mathematical percentages
[18:40] <honestly> Monday: yeah, I know
[18:40] <blazemore> Can I make Apache serve a different page for a different user agent? ie if someone uses wget they should get one file, but in a browser they should get another? Ubuntu 12.04, apache 2.2.22
[18:41] <usr13> Gsport: Why don't you join #ubuntu-offtopic and see.
[18:41] <Gsport> i understand you cant have over 100 percent
[18:41] <ObrienDave> yes you can. see? *don't feed the trolls%
[18:41] <blazemore> lid6j86: sudo apt-get remove libmono-system-net4.0-cil
[18:42] <lid6j86> blazemore, same error, blaze
[18:43] <Gsport> yes i understand math allows for just about anything even impossibilities
[18:43] <blazemore> lid6j86: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq ibmono-system-net4.0-cil
[18:43] <IamTrying> Why it fails? # apt-get download linux-image-3.2.0-17-generic E: FindIndex failed
[18:43] <ObrienDave> umm, like the vacuum between the ears?
[18:43] <blazemore> IamTrying: Run sudo apt-get update first
[18:44] <LinuxGold> do ubuntu have kernel 3.11 in repository?
[18:44] <LinuxGold> if not, I'll experiment with 3.11 from source
[18:44] <IamTrying> blazemore, Same problem
[18:44] <blazemore> LinuxGold: Not in the repositories, but there are easier ways than source
[18:44] <Ari-Yang> LinuxGold, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[18:44] <lid6j86> blazemore, may have done it, looks good so far, going to try to re-install the mono-runtime and find out now
[18:44] <IamTrying> blazemore, i need to export the existing kernel as deb and install it in another PC
[18:45] <LinuxGold> thanks I'll check that ou
[18:45] <LinuxGold> ah, deb package
[18:45] <Ari-Yang> LinuxGold, if you're doing this for the purpose of DPM get http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/
[18:45] <Ari-Yang> I just installed the latest myself
[18:46] <lid6j86> blazemore, you are a life saver, that's twice you've helped.  thanks
[18:46] <blazemore> lid6j86: Really, what was the first time?
[18:47] <lid6j86> blazemore,  i was in here earlier... already forgot what it was about lol, think it was about amd drivers, purging the old ones so that i could re-install them
[18:49] <blazemore> Yes I remember. My general advice for you is, in the nicest possible way, please have some humility regarding your own level of experience. Don't follow a tutorial if you couldn't fix it if it all broke :P
[18:49] <blazemore> Or at least, procede with caution and research :)
[18:50] <ObrienDave> and more research
[18:50] <lid6j86> the graphics one i haven't had an issue in the past, i just didn't know that being in a folder with deb packages with a similar name would cause it to jump in and look there, but it's a good learning experience
[18:50] <chaotic_good> with great power comes great pportunity to make people do stuff
[18:50] <chaotic_good> :)
[18:50] <chaotic_good> and have fun
[18:50] <lid6j86> trust me, i've been saving all the commands you guys have been having me try for the future ;)
[18:51] <chaotic_good> lid6j86: learn lisp programming
[18:51] <lid6j86> lisp?
[18:51] <bazhang> chaotic_good, lets stay on topic please
[18:52] <ObrienDave> lisp is an fairly old programming language
[18:52] <IamTrying> Where is this KERNEL version?? 0.o!!!! no 3.2.0.17-generic??? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2-rc7-precise/
[18:52] <jakemp> how do I switch back to the old "autocomplete" when typing while browsing files, and get rid of the new, slow, useless "I'll try and search everything"
[18:52] <IamTrying> Where was it before? 3.2.0.17-generic?? was it here or not ?? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2-rc7-precise/
[18:59] <jakemp> what is the name of the "files" application?
[19:00] <ObrienDave> ummm, files?
[19:00] <jakemp> when I open a console
[19:00] <jakemp> I type files
[19:00] <jakemp> and it's not found
[19:01] <Pici> jakemp: what 'files' application are you asking about?
[19:01] <ObrienDave> are you asking for the directory files list?
[19:01] <jakemp> when you press the super key, and type files. The default file viewer
[19:01] <jakemp> comes with default ubuntu
[19:01] <jakemp> the about no longer gives the actual application name
[19:02] <ObrienDave> no clue, sorry
[19:03] <IdleOne> jakemp: I think you mean nautilus
[19:05] <jakemp> that's it IdleOne, thank you
[19:05] <IdleOne> jakemp: welcome
[19:07] <jakemp> okay, now, is there a way to disable the search when I start typing in nautilus? I see no settings for it.
[19:08] <flemming> Hello
[19:08] <flemming> hi
[19:08] <flemming> wtf lolol
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> jakemp, my guess would be dconf-editor
[19:09] <LinuxGold> Linux minecraftsrv 3.11.0-996-generic #201309050405 SMP Thu Sep 5 08:06:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:09] <LinuxGold> *ahh*
[19:09] <LinuxGold> thanks.
[19:10] <kancho> how can I listen instantly what comes in through the mic interface?
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> flemming, don't start out with swearing acronyms
[19:12] <Dev_Antar> hi People ...
[19:12] <daftykins> hello.
[19:13] <flemming> How do i highlight text in terminal only by using the keyboard? (In windows it's shift + arrow etc)
[19:13] <Dev_Antar> is there an alternative to artisteer ?
[19:13] <jakemp> oh, it looks like they removed that feature with nautilus 3.6
[19:13] <ObrienDave> kancho==> look for Audacity. It can do audio passthrough
[19:14] <jakemp> but there is another fork from the cinnamon folks
[19:14] <Dev_Antar> guys
[19:14] <daftykins> Dev_Antar: if nobody has replied it means nobody knows / nobody is active that knows.
[19:15] <daftykins> whilst you wait, you can research it for yourself online
[19:15] <jakemp> yeah, I've never heard of artisteer
[19:15] <LinuxGold> hmm... sendbytes: NAK bailout is listing every few second/minutes
[19:15] <Dev_Antar> daftykins i understand .. :)
[19:16] <ObrienDave> kancho==> look for Audacity. It can do audio pass through with only a few milliseconds of delay
[19:16] <flemming> How do i check private messages without leaving the room?
[19:21] <Ceyaje> Hello
[19:21] <Ceyaje> Anyone here to help?
[19:22] <Jagst3r15> anyone know if the 5 GNOME Core Apps: Maps, Music, Photos, Software & Calendar will ever be made default in Ubuntu?
[19:22] <ikonia> Jagst3r15: what do you mean ?
[19:22] <Jagst3r15> ikonia well we know that there are core apps
[19:23] <ikonia> yes
[19:23] <Jagst3r15> but these new ones look awesome and will essentially replace/put in place better apps
[19:23] <ObrienDave> Ceyaje==> just ask the question, please
[19:23] <ikonia> so as they are only in preview in gnome 3.10 - it seems unlikley to be default until they are stable
[19:23] <Jagst3r15> so will the new gnome music app replace rhythmbox since it would be default in GNOME when relessed
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> Ceyaje, not without a description
[19:24] <Jagst3r15> but will they be default u think? I hope Ubuntu doesnt play stubborn and not include the
[19:24] <Jagst3r15> them*
[19:24] <ikonia> Jagst3r15: I dont see why they would not be unless they conflict with what ubuntu needs
[19:24] <Ceyaje> I'm looking to disable 4 finger multitap. The uTouch one that opens the dash. It's constantly misfiring and screwing things up, so I was wondering if there was a command line prompt to disable it (Only reason I didn't ask my question right away was because it seemed quiet for a moment.)
[19:24] <Jagst3r15> ikonia thanks :)
[19:25] <ObrienDave> Ceyaje==> sorry, i don't know a thing about it
[19:26] <Sal> hello
[19:26] <Sal> i'm trying to install ubuntu for the first time on my laptop
[19:26] <Jagst3r15> ikonia does only GNOME folk work on the apps or do Ubuntu people help?
[19:26] <Sal> but wifi aint working
[19:26] <Ceyaje> It's the most annoying thing and there's absolutely no information online on how to disable it. At least not anything that makes sense.
[19:26] <ikonia> Jagst3r15: I don't know, it's open project, so I guess anyone who feels they can help will help
[19:27] <Jagst3r15> ah, I see
[19:27] <Sal> should i continue to install ubuntu and then fix the wifi problem, or is there a way to add wifi drivers during installation?
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> Sal, run lspci and post the hardware
[19:27] <Ceyaje> Sal, hook up to ethernet, go to Software and Updates, and click "Additional Drivers". You can activate your card and it will install the driver.
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> For the wifi
[19:27] <ixio> any suggestions on how to graph a servers performance, specifically response to MySQL queries?
[19:28] <ixio> if I could also graph hits to the website at the same time that would be good
[19:28] <ixio> something like mrtg, but for websites/mysql.. nagios.. but easier
[19:28] <rdw200169> ixio: see logstash
[19:28] <ixio> ty
[19:28] <mungbean> i don't get asked for password after resume fromsuspend in 3.8 kernel on 12.04 , is that by design?
[19:28] <Sal> wilee-nilee, can't run lspci because there aint no linux on the laptop yet
[19:29] <Sal> Ceyaje, the only way to do that is to connect the laptop to the router, that is in another room
[19:29] <Ceyaje> It's not a permanent connection. You just need to give it a hard connection until you download the driver.
[19:30] <Sal> Ceyaje, what about connecying it to another pc? is that possible?
[19:30] <Sal> or do i need a cross cable for that
[19:31] <Ceyaje> Is there a reason you can't bring the laptop to the router?
[19:31] <Sal> ok, i'll try that
[19:32] <Ceyaje> It's literally a 3 second install. Seriously, that's the easiest way to fix it. Anything else is just kind of silly.
[19:32] <Sal> ok, so i first install ubuntu without driver
[19:32] <Sal> then i connect my ethernet to the router
[19:33] <Sal> and go to updates to find thedriver
[19:33] <Sal> is that it?
[19:34] <Ceyaje> Software & Updates > Additional Drivers > then choose your wifi card, hit "Use this [...]" and hit Apply Changes
[19:34] <flemming> hello
[19:34] <Sal> Ceyaje, ok, i'll start
[19:35] <Ceyaje> Ubuntu's very good at finding the necessary drivers. If it doesn't, you can contact the company for your router and ask where you can install the driver. But that shouldn't happen.
[19:35] <Ceyaje> Good luck
[19:35] <Sal> i have already found forum posts that resolve it
[19:35] <Sal> my laptop should have wifi and audio driver problems
[19:35] <Sal> and i fond both solutions
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> Sal, what is the card?
[19:36] <Sal> wilee-nilee, wait, searching
[19:37] <drewd> installed grub-efi-amd64 with 12.04, boots with grubx64 giving me list of os bt when i choose ubuntu gives me a blank screen
[19:37] <Sal> wilee-nilee, this is what i found http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatdb/details/olidata_stainer_w2800_linux.html
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> Sal, run lspci it will tell you
[19:39] <vickt> hello
[19:39] <Sal> wilee-nilee, ok, i'll do that first then running in demo mode
[19:40] <fruitFly> what is the most recent LTS version?
[19:40] <ixio> any other ideas on something simple to graph server performance, specifically mysql queries (response time) and website hits ?
[19:40] <phunyguy> !12.04
[19:41] <green_geeky_dude> safdasdsdrf
[19:41] <green_geeky_dude> sorry guys that was my cat.
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> Sal, if you can run ethernet just do that and install, the drivers needed overall may just load, tick the update while installing box too
[19:43] <Sal> ok
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> Sal, otherwise you will downloading thw wifi on another computer and loading it to that one.
[19:48] <NickDGE> hi, anyone wanna help me troubleshoot a screen brightness adjustment problem on an acer aspire 5750? PM me, thanks in advance.
[19:48] <phunyguy> !pm | NickDGE
[19:49] <Xfaulz> Hi.
[19:49] <zwiep`> Fjustaguy
[19:49] <NickDGE> alright, well, basically, i can't control the screen brightness on this laptop. i've found a solution, but i need to add kernel lines, which i dont know how to do, not exactly a power user. any ideas are gladly accepted.
[19:50] <Xfaulz> How can I check my apt-get repository?
[19:50] <Xfaulz> like, which repositories I am using...etc
[19:50] <fruitFly> is linux mint more stable than ubuntu?
[19:50] <phunyguy> NickDGE: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireS3
[19:50] <phunyguy> NickDGE: are you talking about that process?
[19:50] <Xfaulz> fruitFly, Linux Mint is KDE.
[19:50] <Xfaulz> fruitFly: if you're more of a Windows-fan, you can try out Mint.
[19:50] <phunyguy> !mint | fruitFly
[19:50] <usr13> !repos | Xfaulz
[19:51] <Xfaulz> usr13, can you just tell me how.
[19:51] <phunyguy> you too Xfaulz, please don't recommend it.
[19:51] <fruitFly> Xfaulz: you can get mint xfce
[19:51] <phunyguy> fruitFly: please stop.
[19:51] <Xfaulz> !ot > fruitFly
[19:51] <fruitFly> phunyguy: not so much of a fun guy r ya :P
[19:51] <NickDGE> phunyguy ,thank you for the link, i'll try that out and report back :)
[19:51] <fruitFly> I will
[19:52] <zwiep`> maybe hes more like a mushroom
[19:52] <zwiep`> teehee
[19:52] <phunyguy> alright, lets keep the offtopic banter to a minimum please.
[19:53] <Marlenee> i get error when i use -   nohup: ignoring input and redirecting stderr to stdout
[19:53] <Marlenee> and after that he killed  -  [2]+  Exit 1
[19:55] <phunyguy> Marlenee: please pastebin full output
[19:55] <phunyguy> !paste
[19:55] <phunyguy> full command and output*
[19:55] <daftykins> phunyguy: he got killed :'( heh
[19:55] <phunyguy> :-/
[19:56] <daftykins> i was amused at the lack of info
[19:56] <phunyguy> okok.  offtopic.
[19:56] <Marlenee> it doesent matter the command
[19:57] <neyder_> hi there
[19:57] <daftykins> hi
[19:57] <Marlenee> i just get that error and after that the command is killed without any details
[19:57] <neyder_> i'm preseeding an automated install in OEM mode, how can I preseed the last confirmation of OEM?
[19:59] <fruitFly> how much longer will 12.04 be supported?
[19:59] <fruitFly> and when is the next LTS?
[19:59] <Slart> !12.04
[19:59] <IdleOne> 14.04 is the next lts
[19:59] <Slart> hmm.. there is a chart somewhere on the ubuntu-site with supported lifetimes, LTS and whatnot
[19:59] <Slart> 21:57 < Marlenee> i just get that error and after that the command is killed without any details
[20:00] <Slart> 21:57 < neyder_> i'm preseeding an automated install in OEM mode, how can I preseed the last confirmation of OEM?
[20:00] <ThePaRaDoX> Hello. i am dealing with a small issue with TCL. i installed tcl-dev but upon configure of eggdrop bot it says TCL not found
[20:00] <Slart> 21:59 < fruitFly> how much longer will 12.04 be supported?
[20:00] <Slart> oops.. I hate that middle button
[20:00] <ThePaRaDoX> relevant pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6067804/
[20:00] <FloodBot1> Slart: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:00] <Slart> sorry
[20:00] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: is tcl actually on the system
[20:00] <ThePaRaDoX> ikonia well i installed tcl-dev and if you check the pastebin you will see that it says found
[20:01] <Monday>  fruitFly it will be supported until 2017
[20:01] <neyder_> Slart, i was hopping you i'll helpme
[20:01] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: that's not tcl, that's just headers
[20:01] <Slart> neyder_: mm, I'm sorry to get your hopes up.. never done an automated install =/
[20:01] <Monday> fruitFly, the next LTS will be in April 2014
[20:01] <ThePaRaDoX> ok well i did try sudo apt-get install tcl8.6 too
[20:01] <neyder_> xD
[20:01] <fruitFly> Monday: thankyou
[20:01] <ThePaRaDoX> same errors
[20:01] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: so is tcl installed, can you find the binary ?
[20:02] <neyder_> type tcl
[20:02] <Kitar|st> http://wiresmash.com/how-to/very-useful-and-interesting-food-tips/ om nom nom
[20:02] <Kitar|st> :)
[20:02] <ThePaRaDoX> command not found
[20:02] <ThePaRaDoX> hmm
[20:02] <ikonia> Kitar|st: don't need that in this channel please
[20:02] <ikonia> Kitar|st: this channel is for ubuntu discussion only
[20:02] <neyder_> ThePaRaDoX, ikonia use: "type tcl" to find out
[20:02] <ThePaRaDoX> -bash: type: tcl: not found
[20:02] <ikonia> neyder_: I don't need to type that - that just shows the path, I asked if the binary was on your system
[20:03] <neyder_> ikonia, if type doesn't find out, sois not installed (at least in $PATH)
[20:03] <ikonia> neyder_: I didn't ask if it was in his path
[20:04] <ikonia> neyder_: I asked if it was on his system as it will also have relations to tcl-config
[20:04] <ThePaRaDoX> ok so the sudo apt-get install tcl8.6 is not the correct one?
[20:04] <neyder_> ikonia, take it easy
[20:04] <ikonia> neyder_: pardon ?
[20:04] <ThePaRaDoX> comatose@homeserver:~/IRC/eggdrop1.6.21$ sudo apt-get install tcl8.6
[20:04] <ThePaRaDoX> tcl8.6 is already the newest version.
[20:04] <ThePaRaDoX> does this answer your q: ikonia
[20:05] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: no, however I suspect there needs to be a simlink to tcl to your actual tcl version
[20:05] <ikonia> !info tcl
[20:05] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: look at the version 8.5
[20:05] <ikonia> pvh_sa: where did you get 8.6 ?
[20:05] <ikonia> oops ThePaRaDoX where did you get 8.6
[20:05] <ikonia> and "why" did you get 8.6
[20:05] <ThePaRaDoX> no freakin idea. let me remove and install 8.5
[20:05] <ikonia> !info tcl8.6
[20:05] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: ahh it is in there
[20:06] <ThePaRaDoX> want me to remove and use .5
[20:06] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: ok, so I suspect if you type tcl8.6 you'll get a tcl shell
[20:06] <ThePaRaDoX> nope command not found
[20:06] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: hang on, let me boot an ubuntu machine
[20:06] <ThePaRaDoX> i appreciate your help ikonia
[20:07] <flemming> Hello all
[20:08] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: ls -la /usr/bin/tclsh
[20:08] <usr13> Try tclsh
[20:08] <ThePaRaDoX> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Sep 5 22:49 /usr/bin/tclsh -> /etc/alternatives/tclsh
[20:09] <ThePaRaDoX> i did get a terminal like thing there with tclsh
[20:09] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: ok, follow that symlink, and you'll find what version it's using
[20:10] <ThePaRaDoX> i didnt get you. havent used linux in quite a while so i am starting to get unfamiliar
[20:10] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: follow that sylink through,
[20:11] <ikonia> ThePaRaDoX: you'll probably find that eggdrop is looking for "tcl" as a command rather than tclsh
[20:12] <ThePaRaDoX> so how can i fix that to make it see
[20:12] <ikonia> check what it's lookig for and either change the test, or create a symlink for the binary it calls
[20:13] <elasticbob> 500 fat nìggers
[20:13] <usr13> apt-cache policy tclsh
[20:14] <ThePaRaDoX> usr13 none installed
[20:14] <ThePaRaDoX> Installed: (none)
[20:16] <b0x> hi.. ive got an odd issue. when i move my mouse all the way to the right of the screen, it "magically" just appears on the left side. going to the other sides does not do this.
[20:17] <delinquentme> given a name of a process ... is it easy to find out if its running?
[20:17] <b0x> this makes using scroll bars on full screen apps a pain as they are often tiny
[20:17] <Dev_Antar> Hi
[20:18] <Dev_Antar> What is the best web development IDE for Ubuntu ??
[20:18] <b0x> i use sublime text
[20:18] <b0x> but its not an ide
[20:18] <b0x> ive heard good things about netbeans
[20:19] <b0x> eclipse
[20:19] <Xfaulz> yo b0x.
[20:19] <Xfaulz> it's the almighty b0x.
[20:19] <Xfaulz> anyways.
[20:19] <Xfaulz> !ot > b0x
[20:19] <Xfaulz> that is all.
[20:20] <Dev_Antar> b0x which eclipse ??
[20:20] <b0x> what web dev are you doing? php?
[20:21] <Dev_Antar> php html css JS
[20:21] <b0x> look into both, see if they fit your needs
[20:21] <b0x> i find them a bit bloated for that
[20:21] <Dev_Antar> b0x how can i install it ?
[20:22] <b0x> from their website
[20:22] <b0x> or the ubuntu software center
[20:22] <Dev_Antar> no i cant install from the source
[20:23] <Agamemnus> hello
[20:24] <Agamemnus> i'm very confused, a little help?
[20:24] <Agamemnus> how do I get out of something that does not end?... via command line
[20:24] <Agamemnus> I type something and the command line doesn't come back.
[20:24] <Agamemnus> I just get a cursor
[20:24] <infinit__> CTRL+C
[20:24] <ikonia> Agamemnus: what are you typing
[20:24] <Agamemnus> a command
[20:24] <ikonia> which one
[20:25] <infinit__> Hit CTRL+C
[20:25] <Dev_Antar> bx0 can i continue the installation to the next time
[20:25] <Agamemnus> "mysqld start"
[20:25] <ikonia> you don't do that
[20:25] <ikonia> Agamemnus: that is not how you start it
[20:25] <infinit__> Did you HIT CTRL+C >>>>> ??
[20:25] <Agamemnus> how do I start it?
[20:25] <Agamemnus> yes, that didn't work.
[20:25] <ikonia> it uses the mysqld-safe script that's called from init
[20:26] <ikonia> Agamemnus: how did you install mysql ?
[20:26] <infinit__> type /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[20:26] <Agamemnus> i didn't.
[20:26] <Dev_Antar> bx0
[20:26] <ikonia> Agamemnus: who installed it ?
[20:26] <Agamemnus> no idea
[20:26] <infinit__> type /etc/init.d/mysqld stop
[20:26] <ikonia> infinit__: no
[20:26] <Agamemnus> ok hold on
[20:26] <ikonia> infinit__: ubuntu uses upstart
[20:26] <Dev_Antar> bx0
[20:26] <ikonia> Agamemnus: hold on
[20:26] <ikonia> Agamemnus: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[20:27] <Agamemnus> not found
[20:27] <Agamemnus> 12.1
[20:27] <Agamemnus> it only works when I go to the actual directory
[20:27] <Agamemnus> then type in mysqld stop
[20:27] <ikonia> there is no 12.1 version
[20:27] <Dev_Antar> can i continue the installing of a software to the next time ????
[20:27] <ikonia> 12.10 ?
[20:28] <Agamemnus> 12.10
[20:28] <Agamemnus> if i do that..
[20:28] <Agamemnus> if I go to etc/init.d/
[20:28] <Agamemnus> and type in mysqld stop
[20:28] <Agamemnus> I just get a cursor
[20:28] <ikonia> no no no no no
[20:28] <Agamemnus> and no way to get back
[20:28] <ikonia> ctrl+c will exit it
[20:28] <ikonia> but please stop typing mysqld start/stop
[20:29] <Agamemnus> it does not work
[20:29] <Agamemnus> ctrl+c does not work
[20:29] <ikonia> it should
[20:29] <ikonia> Agamemnus: bottom line is mysqld should start on system boot
[20:29] <Agamemnus> i am using putty to connect if that helps
[20:29] <Dev_Antar> Agamemnus why not sudo service mysqld stop
[20:30] <Agamemnus> unrecognized service
[20:30] <ikonia> Agamemnus: ok, so this looks odd
[20:30] <ikonia> Agamemnus: lets check some tuff
[20:30] <ikonia> Agamemnus: please type "uname -a" and show me the output
[20:31] <Agamemnus> Linux srv-1.ezqconsulting.com 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:31] <ikonia> Agamemnus: ok,
[20:31] <ikonia> Agamemnus: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[20:31] <ALLTHECODE> The GetJuju link on the jujucharms website 404s: https://juju.ubuntu.com/get-started/
[20:31] <Agamemnus> did it.
[20:31] <delinquentme> whats the general term used to describe the USB ports?
[20:31] <Agamemnus> still unrecognized service.
[20:32] <ikonia> ALLTHECODE: get rid of "get-started"
[20:32] <calwig> how can I bundle up some files into a bootable ISO
[20:32] <calwig> does K3b enable ISO boot disk?
[20:32] <delinquentme> I'm currently trying to sort out what devices are plugged into a machine with $ dmesg | tail
[20:32] <ikonia> Agamemnus: what happened when you typed "sudo apt-get install"
[20:32] <ikonia> Agamemnus: please stop rushing ahead typing comments
[20:32] <ikonia> commands
[20:32] <Agamemnus> it upgraded mysql-server.
[20:32] <ikonia> Agamemnus: no - install will noy upgrade
[20:32] <delinquentme> I'm getting what looks to be like the correct output ... however the device which is plugged in isn't showing up
[20:32] <Agamemnus> "The following packages will be upgraded:"
[20:33] <ikonia> Agamemnus: what did you type exactly
[20:33] <Agamemnus> exactly what you told me
[20:33] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you tell me what you typed
[20:33] <Dev_Antar> ikonia is there anyway to continue downloading an application from the Software Center to the next time ?
[20:33] <Agamemnus> "sudo apt-get install mysql-server"
[20:33] <ikonia> Dev_Antar: no
[20:33] <ikonia> Agamemnus: ok, "sudo mysql start"
[20:33] <ikonia> Agamemnus: don't type that
[20:33] <ikonia> Agamemnus: sorry no
[20:34] <Dev_Antar> ikonia so is there an alternative ?
[20:34] <ikonia> Agamemnus: "sudo service mysql start"
[20:34] <ikonia> Dev_Antar: install it when you are ready to install it
[20:34] <Agamemnus> The first one gives me this error:
[20:34] <Agamemnus> RROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[20:34] <ikonia> Agamemnus: I told you not to type the first one
[20:34] <Agamemnus> the second one says: "Job is already running: mysql"
[20:35] <ikonia> Agamemnus: ok, so mysqld is already running - as it should be as it boots at start
[20:35] <Dev_Antar> agamemnus why dont install the wamp by aptitude ?
[20:35] <Agamemnus> wamp?
[20:35] <ikonia> Dev_Antar: wamp ?
[20:35] <ikonia> Dev_Antar: what are you talking about,
[20:35] <peyam> hi
[20:35] <Dev_Antar> xamp
[20:36] <ikonia> Agamemnus: my suggestion is 1.) reboot so your system is in a clean state
[20:36] <Dev_Antar> sorry
[20:36] <ikonia> Dev_Antar: because that is a terrible and unsupported idea
[20:36] <peyam> I just installed docky on my xubuntu 13.04 and I cant add items I want. does anyone know?
[20:36] <ikonia> Agamemnus: 2.) mysqld should be running at startup - check it is running
[20:36] <Agamemnus> ikonia: this is what happens when I try to connect: http://app.ezqconsulting.com/
[20:36] <ikonia> Agamemnus: yes, because it looks like you've got it into a bad state
[20:36] <ikonia> Agamemnus: reboot and lets walk through it
[20:37] <Agamemnus> yeah i tried to change the password, but then it would just not go back to the command line
[20:37] <Agamemnus> following rackspace's guide
[20:37] <Agamemnus> what is the command to reboot, please?
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> peyam, You might ask in #docky if I recall it is from the drop up on the left.
[20:38] <Agamemnus> never mind
[20:38] <Agamemnus> I typed in "reboot".
[20:38] <Dev_Antar> ikonia so there is no way to continue , Unfortunately i have a slow internet connection ....
[20:39] <Dev_Antar> eclipse is 223MB
[20:39] <ikonia> Dev_Antar: download it when you hav time
[20:39] <Dev_Antar> 233.8MB
[20:39] <Agamemnus> Ok, thanks ikonia.
[20:39] <ikonia> it's not a hard concept to grasp
[20:39] <Dev_Antar> mm Yeah
[20:39] <Agamemnus> is "reboot" correct?
[20:40] <ikonia> Agamemnus: sure
[20:40] <Agamemnus> ok, was just taking a while
[20:40] <Agamemnus> looks like it all works now, thanks
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> peyam, http://wiki.go-docky.com/index.php?title=Adding/Removing_application_launchers,_folders_and_files
[20:40] <Dev_Antar> ikonia have you an idea about web Development if Yes , i have a small Q ?
[20:41] <ikonia> Dev_Antar: is it anything to do with ubuntu ?
[20:41] <chamunks> This is going to sound strange.  But I need to be able to reverse proxy ports to several endpoint servers.
[20:41] <Agamemnus> dev_antar, throw me a message, i can probably answer it
[20:41] <chamunks> So Website.a.com sends ping to > My router sort of computer > the person behind my router.
[20:41] <Dev_Antar> ikonia Unfortunately it is not about ubuntu ok ,
[20:41] <Agamemnus> "dev_antar, throw me a message, i can probably answer it"
[20:42] <ikonia> Dev_Antar: try #web then
[20:42] <chamunks> what can I do to forward this traffic through my machine so that website.a.com sees the IP of the router and not the person behind my router.
[20:42] <econdudeawesome> Got a question: I use xmonad. Is there a way to return a floating window (alt+click to create) back to a tiled window?
[20:42] <chamunks> This router is a ubuntu server 12.04
[20:42] <kebomix> hello, i'm connected to vpn through openvpn, but ubuntu still uses wifi connection not vpn connection, how to fix that?
[20:42] <t_dot_zilla> im going crazy trying to get a tftp server running on ubuntu 12.04
[20:42] <SolarisBoy> chamunks: maybe something with iptables to mangle or otherwise modify the data.
[20:43] <Dev_Antar> Agamemnus can you send privat message i cant see on the users list (Emaphy Problem)
[20:43] <chamunks> SolarisBoy, eeeh
[20:43] <Agamemnus> ikonia, now that it is rebooted, can you tell me why it can't seem to find mysql?
[20:43] <Agamemnus> I typed in "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop" ..
[20:43] <Dev_Antar> i cant see you
[20:43] <chamunks> SolarisBoy, you wouldn't imagine UFW could handle it?
[20:43] <ikonia> Agamemnus: check if it's running
[20:44] <SolarisBoy> ufw == iptables it's just the frontend - that said no i dought ufw interface offers anything that complex, but ufw does allow a simple route into just using iptables the standard way
[20:47] <Agamemnus> ikonia, unfortunately I don't know how to test if it's running.
[20:47] <SolarisBoy> chamunks: man ufw-framework and take a look at overview - you can fir rules into one of those if you need to add something very complex and ufw doesn't provide a simple way too
[20:47] <Agamemnus> I went through the chat log and I'm lost.
[20:47] <Agamemnus> I know, I already forgot. Memory of a goldfish
[20:47] <ikonia> Agamemnus: type "mysql"
[20:47] <Agamemnus> ikonia: Access denied
[20:47] <ikonia> Agamemnus: what is the username you want to connect as
[20:47] <Agamemnus> root.
[20:48] <ikonia> Agamemnus: mysql -u root -p
[20:48] <Agamemnus> but I need to change the password.
[20:48] <Agamemnus> the guide says i need to stop the service first
[20:48] <ikonia> Agamemnus: this is concerning me a lot that you don't know how to do this, yet you are trying to do this
[20:48] <ikonia> Agamemnus: lets check it's running first
[20:48] <Agamemnus> but "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop" does not work
[20:48] <Agamemnus> well it is, right?
[20:48] <SolarisBoy> if you start the mysqld with skip-grant tables option you dont need to authenticate
[20:48] <kebomix> ignore my question solved it with this command "sudo route add default dev tun0"
[20:48] <Agamemnus> it's definitely running right now
[20:48] <ikonia> Agamemnus: please stop doing random things, what is the point of me telling you to stop doing things and trying to guide you if you keep repeat doing the same thing
[20:49] <ikonia> Agamemnus: ok - so that's good, it's running
[20:49] <Agamemnus> I can connect to my web-app.
[20:49] <Agamemnus> (for example)
[20:49] <ikonia> Agamemnus: now why do you need to change the root password, because you forgot it, or because you want to change it
[20:49] <ginjaninja> just upgraded to 13.04 xubuntu and my rt2500 wmp54g wireless pci stopp working! any help?
[20:49] <phunyguy> !details | ginjaninja
[20:50] <Agamemnus> I don't know what it is.
[20:50] <ikonia> Agamemnus: ok, so you need to follow a process to start mysql without grant tables to change the password
[20:50] <Agamemnus> I'm trying to help a friend who fired his admin.
[20:50] <Agamemnus> yes, I was following this guide:
[20:50] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you are not in a position to help someone do this - I suggest stopping
[20:50] <Agamemnus> http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/mysql-resetting-a-lost-mysql-root-password
[20:50] <ikonia> Agamemnus: hire someone who can do this
[20:50] <ikonia> Agamemnus: or talk to rackspace for help
[20:51] <Agamemnus> sure I am... just tell me why the command does not work..?
[20:51] <SolarisBoy> i would suggest going to get that admin back - admins like lunch
[20:51] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you are not in a position to help your friend
[20:51] <ikonia> Agamemnus: it dosn't work like that "tell me the command" you need to do it properly and make sure it's secure after
[20:51] <Agamemnus> look, it tells everything step by step.. "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop"
[20:51] <Agamemnus> but that doesn't work.
[20:51] <ikonia> Agamemnus: as you are not capable of stopping/starting the server, you should not be doing this
[20:51] <ikonia> Agamemnus: then contact rack space and tell them their guide is wrong and ask for help
[20:51] <phunyguy> Agamemnus: then that is not a valid tutorial.
[20:51] <Agamemnus> what, why?
[20:51] <Agamemnus> not the server, the mysql service.
[20:51] <phunyguy> Agamemnus: that command is incorrect.
[20:52] <ikonia> Agamemnus: same thing
[20:52] <SolarisBoy> because you dont know what to do when something is going wrong - which an admin generally does
[20:52] <Agamemnus> what is the command to stop the mysql service, pretty please?
[20:52] <ikonia> Agamemnus: is this a rackspace server ?
[20:52] <phunyguy> for example, the difference between init and upstart.
[20:52] <ikonia> Agamemnus: it's not as simple as stopping it
[20:52] <ginjaninja> I have a problem connecting to my WPA network after doing a clean install of 13.04 (xubuntu) . It worked with 12.04 after I fixed it, but I can
[20:52] <Agamemnus> right, it is.
[20:52] <ikonia> Agamemnus: do not try to use that guide
[20:52] <ikonia> Agamemnus: contact rack space and explain their guide is wrong
[20:52] <ikonia> Agamemnus: ask them for help
[20:52] <ikonia> (support)
[20:52] <Agamemnus> why is it wrong?
[20:52] <Agamemnus> ok, i'll contact them
[20:52] <ikonia> Agamemnus: I'm not going through it with you
[20:52] <Agamemnus> fine.
[20:52] <Agamemnus> thanks.
[20:53] <ginjaninja> I have a problem connecting to my WPA network after doing a clean install of 13.04 (xubuntu) . It worked with 12.04 after I fixed it, but I can't remember how i fixed it before . I am on the 3.9.0-030900rc8-generic kernal and I have a wmp54g pci card with a rt2500 driver
[20:53] <Agamemnus> in fact I am actually trying to get my friend out of rackspace.
[20:54] <phunyguy> ginjaninja: are there any restricted drivers available?
[20:54] <SolarisBoy> ultimately - wherever he goes he or someone should still have some knowledge of their systems unless of course they are fully managed.
[20:54] <OerHeks> ginjaninja, a clean install with a RC kernel ?
[20:55] <phunyguy> aaahhh didn't even notice that
[20:55] <Agamemnus> ikonia, actually I see several places that say "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop" ...
[20:55] <Agamemnus> can you just at least tell me what could be wrong with that command, syntactically?
[20:55] <SolarisBoy> nothing i see.
[20:56] <Agamemnus> maybe it's sudo?
[20:56] <ginjaninja> OerHeks, I downgraded thinking that was how I fixed it last time
[20:56] <ikonia> Agamemnus: no , sudo is right
[20:56] <phunyguy> Agamemnus: ubuntu server?
[20:56] <Agamemnus> maybe sudo is an old version.
[20:56] <ginjaninja> phunyguy, I am not sure , how can i check?
[20:56] <Agamemnus> 12.10
[20:56] <ikonia> Agamemnus: Agamemnus no
[20:56] <ikonia> Agamemnus: stop saying random things
[20:56] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you have no idea what you are doing - contact rack space and ask for basic support
[20:56] <ikonia> Agamemnus: this is why you should not be trying to help your friends as you can make things worse
[20:56] <Agamemnus> well, you won't tell me why it is saying "command not found"..
[20:57] <Agamemnus> by your logic I shouldn't learn anything at all
[20:57] <SolarisBoy> what is saying command not found?
[20:57] <phunyguy> I find it hard to believe that sudo is not found
[20:57] <ikonia> Agamemnus: because it's not simple and you don't understand the basics, so conact your support
[20:57] <ikonia> Agamemnus: saying "what do I type" is not learning
[20:57] <Agamemnus> when I type in "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop", I get command not found.
[20:57] <ikonia> Agamemnus: reading/understanding is learning
[20:57] <ikonia> Agamemnus: I told you earlier do NOT type that
[20:57] <phunyguy> Agamemnus: good.  contact rackspace because you don't have the ability to run that command.
[20:57] <Agamemnus> but WHY?
[20:58] <ikonia> Agamemnus: why do you keep typing it after I've told you 3 times not to
[20:58] <Agamemnus> This server is a dedicated server
[20:58] <Agamemnus> I'm on root.
[20:58] <ikonia> Agamemnus: that is a sysv init script, 12.10 does not use sysv - it uses upstart
[20:58] <phunyguy> oh lawd.
[20:58] <ikonia> Agamemnus: there should be no "root" account open
[20:58] <Agamemnus> gee, you could have at least told me that.
[20:58] <Agamemnus> THANK YOU
[20:58] <DD88435> Can anyone help me with setting my default browser in WINE?
[20:58] <phunyguy> I believe I said that 10 minutes ago, Agamemnus
[20:58] <Agamemnus> I missed it, I guess
[20:58] <easeofuse> is there a GNU/Linux equivalent to MyPublicWiFi that is easy to configure and use?
[20:59] <phunyguy> Agamemnus: therefore that guide is invalid.
[20:59] <Agamemnus> it could be that the previous admin installed 12.10
[20:59] <NickDGE> phunyguy, i tried the tuturial you gave me about the screen brightness control issue
[20:59] <Agamemnus> or SOMEONE did....
[20:59] <ikonia> Agamemnus: 12.10 what ?
[20:59] <Agamemnus> and it wasn't like that in the first place.
[20:59] <phunyguy> NickDGE: no luck?
[20:59] <Agamemnus> Ubuntu 12.10.
[20:59] <ikonia> Agamemnus: what wasn't setup like that ?
[21:00] <Agamemnus> The server.
[21:00] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you told me you are using 12.10 -
[21:00] <Agamemnus> Yes
[21:00] <phunyguy> I'm guessing it was a 12.04 LTS server
[21:00] <kjshkldjfh> is the a way to make "ls a*b" also list Afoob and afooB?
[21:00] <SolarisBoy> article was written before 12.10 arrived it appears.
[21:00] <Agamemnus> Initially. It wasn't set up like that initially.
[21:00] <SolarisBoy>  Last updated on August 31, 2012
[21:00] <ikonia> Agamemnus: how do you know that ?
[21:00] <Agamemnus> I'm guessing.
[21:00] <NickDGE> unfortunately after sudo update-grub it returns a syntax error on line 13 (the line of the actual stuff inserted): Syntax error on line 13; unexpected ")"
[21:00] <ikonia> Agamemnus: how many times have I said "stop guessing/assuming"
[21:00] <phunyguy> kjshkldjfh: some fancy regexp perhaps
[21:00] <NickDGE> i can guarantee i followed it strictly and i inserted the line correctly
[21:00] <ikonia> Agamemnus: it doesn't matter what you think it was, or why, it matters what it is now
[21:01] <phunyguy> kjshkldjfh: http://www.linuxforu.com/2012/06/beginners-guide-gnu-grep-basics-regular-expressions/
[21:01] <phunyguy> NickDGE: no luck?
[21:01] <phunyguy> oh missed a line
[21:01] <phunyguy> NickDGE: sorry bud, I can't help further.
[21:02] <SolarisBoy> kjshkldjfh: ls [Aa]*[Bb]
[21:02] <phunyguy> there ya go.
[21:02] <Agamemnus> it does matter sometimes.
[21:02] <kjshkldjfh> phunyguy, SolarisBoy: thank you
[21:02] <SolarisBoy> yw
[21:02] <Agamemnus> they are completely unaware
[21:03] <Monday> what is the Ubuntu alternative to MyPublicWiFi?
[21:03] <SolarisBoy> whats mypublicwifi?
[21:03] <phunyguy> Agamemnus: what are you yammering about now?
[21:03] <phunyguy> who is completely unaware?
[21:03] <Agamemnus> rackspace support.
[21:03] <Monday> http://download.cnet.com/MyPublicWiFi/3000-18508_4-75627953.html
[21:03] <phunyguy> well what OS does Rackspace support?
[21:03] <renebarbosa> Monday, http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[21:04] <SolarisBoy> lol you need to know the contract - they could be totally unaware and in their contract
[21:04] <renebarbosa> thy this one
[21:04] <SolarisBoy> they may not even support your mysql and stuff .
[21:04] <phunyguy> !info hostapd | Monday
[21:04] <Agamemnus> that could be, i am not looking for anyone to blame.
[21:05] <SolarisBoy> what exactly is your aim/problem? isn't your web app working Agamemnus ?
[21:05] <Monday> actually mHotSpot is better http://download.cnet.com/mHotspot/3000-18508_4-75452123.html
[21:05] <phunyguy> that doesn't seem like the right package I posted...
[21:06] <SolarisBoy> Agamemnus: if you all fired your admin, the least you can do i guess is review the rackspace contract with your friend - that way atleast you will know how far in the hole you are. And i suggest you hire an admin
[21:06] <SolarisBoy> cheap ones laying all over =)
[21:06]  * SolarisBoy self pointing
[21:07] <phunyguy> Monday: http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[21:07] <phunyguy> was that what you want?
[21:07] <ginjaninja> I have a problem connecting to my WPA network after doing a clean install of 13.04 (xubuntu) . It worked with 12.04 after I fixed it, but I can't remember how i fixed it before . I am on the 3.9.0-030900rc8-generic kernal and I have a wmp54g pci card with a rt2500 driver
[21:08] <phunyguy> ginjaninja: you didn't answer previous questions
[21:08] <phunyguy> 3.9 kernel on a fresh install, ginjaninja?
[21:08] <ginjaninja> phunyguy, downgraDED bc i read that would help
[21:09] <phunyguy> downgraded from WHAT? 13.04 comes with 3.8
[21:09] <phunyguy> not 3.9 or above...
[21:09] <Agamemnus> i almost have it.
[21:09] <Agamemnus> just have a path question now...
[21:10] <Agamemnus> "sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --init-file=/path/to/filewithsqltoupdatepassword.sql" --> if it is in the same directory, is it just "blah.sql"?
[21:10] <ikonia> NO !!!
[21:10] <ikonia> do not do that
[21:10] <phunyguy> oh good lord.
[21:10] <Agamemnus> why?
[21:10] <ginjaninja> phunyguy, oh my fault thought i was downgrading, anyways, i installed the kernel myself
[21:10] <ikonia> Agamemnus: that is not the process....
[21:11] <phunyguy> ginjaninja: then that is probably your problem.
[21:11] <phunyguy> ginjaninja: please use a supported kernel.
[21:11] <Agamemnus> sure it is
[21:11] <ginjaninja> phunyguy,  ok i will do that
[21:11] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you don't even know how if the file path is correct, how can you know that's the right process
[21:11] <Agamemnus> at least it was.. in 2010
[21:11] <phunyguy> Agamemnus: ikonia gave you the clues you need.  You need to start mysql without grant tables, not inject more sql.
[21:11] <calwig> how can one make a bootable ISO from several files?
[21:11] <ikonia> Agamemnus: it's not 2010
[21:11] <ikonia> Agamemnus: stop guessing at things
[21:12] <Agamemnus> google can only give me 2010
[21:12] <ikonia> Agamemnus: stop doing this by google
[21:12] <ikonia> Agamemnus: CONTACT rack space
[21:12] <ikonia> Agamemnus: guessing/blindly typing at things is very bad
[21:12] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you need to make sure you fix this AND leave it secure
[21:12] <tgm4883> ikonia, +1
[21:12] <Agamemnus> i don't care about it dude.... i am copying the data and killing the server
[21:13] <ikonia> Agamemnus: then what's the issue, move the data files and dump the server
[21:13] <histo> Agamemnus: sudo service mysql stop    would be the proper way to stop the server
[21:13] <ikonia> Agamemnus: don't waste time with this stuff, move the datafiles and you're done
[21:13] <Agamemnus> I need to log in as root to mysql first!
[21:13] <ikonia> Agamemnus: no you don't
[21:13] <ikonia> Agamemnus: the datafiles are on the flat file system
[21:13] <phunyguy> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[21:13] <phunyguy> just a heads up./
[21:13] <phunyguy> first hit on google.
[21:13] <ikonia> Agamemnus: move the datafiles to your new server and dump the server
[21:13] <NickDGE> phunyguy, did you say anything about my issue?
[21:13] <Agamemnus> easier to save it in an sql file
[21:14] <ikonia> Agamemnus: no it's not
[21:14] <tgm4883> I'm not sure I'd recommend just copying mysql datafiles, but I didn't read all of the backlog
[21:14] <phunyguy> NickDGE: I don't know how to fix your issue, sorry bud.
[21:14] <ikonia> Agamemnus: it's 2 commands to move the datafiles
[21:14] <NickDGE> thanks anyway, ill search further
[21:14] <Agamemnus> what are they?
[21:14] <Usling> anyone know any laptop compatibility website/forum? pref intel haswell + ubuntu
[21:14] <ikonia> tgm4883: it's certainly better than blindly typing things
[21:14] <ikonia> tgm4883: but I do agree
[21:14] <tgm4883> ikonia, well I'll agree with that
[21:14] <Agamemnus> and would that structure be compatible with centOS?
[21:14] <ikonia> Agamemnus: contact rack space for support - they are your provider, I don't know why you keep stalling this
[21:14] <ikonia> Agamemnus: no
[21:14] <Agamemnus> Then it is not 2 commands.
[21:14] <ikonia> Agamemnus: centos and ubuntu work different in many things
[21:14] <ikonia> Agamemnus: the datafiles however are totally compatible
[21:14] <dtcrshr> can anyone help me install gnome over my ubuntu with kde?
[21:15] <tgm4883> is he not able to just reset the root mysql password and use mysqldump?
[21:15] <Guest5498> can someone help me out? in c++ if i've overloaded the subscript [] operator how can i use it in a memberfunction in a class? i've this.[] i've tried this->[] but neither work
[21:15] <Agamemnus> i am trying to do that!!
[21:15] <dtcrshr> Iv added the gnome3 ppa, but when trying to apt-get install gnome i got this error - depends gnome-core but wont be installed
[21:15] <ikonia> tgm4883: no, because he has no grasp of how to do it and is blindly typing things
[21:15] <ikonia> tgm4883: rather than just contact rack space and ask for support/help
[21:15] <tgm4883> ikonia, Agamemnus is this a virtual server that he is an admin on?
[21:15] <ikonia> tgm4883: they fired their admin
[21:16] <Agamemnus> i didn't, he did
[21:16] <ikonia> hence rackspace is the next logical choice for their server
[21:16] <tgm4883> ikonia, so he doesn't have sudo privs?
[21:16] <ikonia> tgm4883: totally yes
[21:16] <phunyguy> Agamemnus: are you getting paid to do this, by chance?
[21:16] <ikonia> tgm4883: but the idea of no grant tables is being missed,
[21:16] <histo> dtcrshr: why are you adding the ppa gnome is in the repos
[21:16] <ikonia> tgm4883: no idea of how to use init, change the startup etc.
[21:16] <histo> !notunity | dtcrshr
[21:16] <tgm4883> ikonia, yea, thats no deal
[21:16] <Guest5498> can someone help me out? in c++ if i've overloaded the subscript [] operator how can i use it in a memberfunction in a class? i've tried this.[] i've tried this->[] but neither work
[21:16] <ikonia> Guest5498: try ##c++ channel
[21:17] <Agamemnus> i don't need to argue with you..
[21:17] <phunyguy> Guest5498: also, I suggest you excercise a bit more patience there.
[21:17] <jefgy> I'm using an intel e1000 and while I don't see any issues in syslog or dmesg I seem to be dropping connections regularly on the machines with the e1000(the machines with broadcom nics are fine).    I did a quick search for e1000 issues on 12.04 and didn't immediately see anything.  Does anyone know if there is an issue with the e1000 that I may have overlooked?
[21:17] <phunyguy> :)
[21:17] <tgm4883> ikonia, if he's hosing the server afterwards, why not just dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-X.X to reset root password and then mysqldump it?
[21:17] <ikonia> tgm4883: because from what's said it won't connect
[21:18] <Guest5498> agememnus i'm just worried my question will get buried
[21:18] <phunyguy> tgm4883: I think I tried that at one point, but no dice.
[21:18] <dtcrshr> histo: Iv added because It wasnt working
[21:18] <Guest5498> agamemnus
[21:18] <tgm4883> ikonia, won't connect? is the mysql db not on this server?
[21:18] <dtcrshr> so I added this repo also
[21:18] <dtcrshr> ill remove it and try again
[21:18] <ikonia> tgm4883: yes, and it's running, but once you set the password the "no-password" connect option the dpkg uses at install is removed
[21:18] <Agamemnus> yes, c++ ... that's not ubuntu
[21:18] <phunyguy> Guest5498: take my advice.  Be patient.  If nobody knows, they won't speak up.
[21:18] <ikonia> give it a try though, by all mean s
[21:18] <histo> dtcrshr: just follow the instructions from ubottu
[21:19]  * tgm4883 backs away
[21:19] <phunyguy> time to go home peeps, cya, ikonia, hold down the fort.
[21:19] <Agamemnus> i can't imagine that no one has written a step-by-step guide to resetting the password in Ubuntu 12.10.
[21:20] <phunyguy> Agamemnus: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[21:20] <Agamemnus> Google! *shakes fist*
[21:20] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, resetting the root mysql password is easy in Ubuntu
[21:20] <phunyguy> first google hit.
[21:20] <ikonia> Agamemnus: this should not be done with random googles
[21:20] <Agamemnus> oh, that?
[21:20] <tgm4883> phunyguy, I wouldn't even use that
[21:20] <histo> !alis | Guest5498
[21:20] <phunyguy> tgm4883: but it's a start
[21:20] <ikonia> Agamemnus: it requires knowledge/expeirence to it sane - hence why I keep saying "contact rack space" they have the skills
[21:20] <Agamemnus> actually I started using that, but that's not specific to ubuntu
[21:20] <Agamemnus> they don't have to skills
[21:20] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you're no in a position to do this blind
[21:20] <Agamemnus> the*
[21:20] <ikonia> Agamemnus: rackspace DO have the skills
[21:20] <tgm4883> phunyguy, well it would work, but if all we're trying to do is reset the root password in mysql there are easier ubuntu ways
[21:20] <phunyguy> ok bye
[21:21] <phunyguy> :)
[21:22] <dtcrshr> thanks anyway HisaoNakai
[21:22] <dtcrshr> histo
[21:22] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, resetting the mysql password in Ubuntu is a single command. But from what it sounds like, either A) you messed something up when running blind commands from the internet or B) rackspace has configured their image in a way that makes that not work
[21:22] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, in either case, I wouldn't blame Ubuntu for that
[21:23] <HisaoNakai> dtcrshr: You're wel- wait what? O_o
[21:24] <Agamemnus> according to what I've read..
[21:24] <Agamemnus> I need to stop mysql
[21:24] <Agamemnus> then run a mysql command with mysqld
[21:24] <ikonia> you are reading BAD information
[21:24] <Agamemnus> then start mysql again
[21:24] <ikonia> I've said this 3 - 4 times
[21:24] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, no, it's 1 command
[21:24] <Agamemnus> What IS the command?
[21:24] <histo> Agamemnus: sudo service mysql stop
[21:24] <Agamemnus> that stops mysql.
[21:24] <Agamemnus> ?
[21:25] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, 12.10?
[21:25] <Agamemnus> i'll try it.
[21:25] <Agamemnus> 12.10
[21:25] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5'
[21:25] <Agamemnus> "sudo service mysql stop" resets the password?
[21:25] <ikonia> NO !!!!
[21:25] <Agamemnus> do I need to run that first?
[21:25] <ikonia> this is why you should not be doing this
[21:25] <ikonia> please, I'm begging you stop,
[21:26] <ikonia> you will end up causing a problem and risk data loss
[21:26] <histo> Agamemnus: no it stops mysql
[21:26] <Agamemnus> I know it doesn't, but this is what histo just said.
[21:26] <ikonia> Agamemnus: that is NOT what histo just said
[21:26] <Agamemnus> "it's one command.... what is the command... <command to stop mysql>"
[21:26] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, out of curiosity, how did it come to you to need to do this?
[21:26] <histo> omfg
[21:26] <Agamemnus> Wait, let me actually do it.
[21:26] <AcidRain2012> bah. its been so long since i messed with my sFTP server i forgot which one i installed. how do i figure this out? ;)
[21:26] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, At least read who is responding to you. the one command is 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5'
[21:26] <histo> AcidRain2012: see what is listening on that port
[21:26] <iceroot_> AcidRain2012: there is only one sftp server, openssh-server
[21:27] <Agamemnus> ok.
[21:27] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you are risking data loss typing this stuff blind
[21:27] <ikonia> Agamemnus: please be aware of that
[21:27] <Agamemnus> don't worry, no one is using mysql
[21:27] <AcidRain2012> iceroot_, ok. its on port 22. where are the openssh config files? im trying to add another user
[21:27] <delinquentme> how do I figure out which directory in /dev/tty happens to correspond to a given hardware port?
[21:27] <ikonia> no, but the data can get destroyed
[21:27] <Agamemnus> dead
[21:27] <iceroot_> AcidRain2012: the users from ssh/sftp are local system users
[21:27] <ikonia> I'm assuming the data is worth while keeping
[21:27] <AcidRain2012> im using mysql :/
[21:27] <AcidRain2012> iceroot_, but i have virtual users...
[21:27] <histo> AcidRain2012: it's ssh
[21:27] <Agamemnus> tgm: I typed that in.
[21:27] <tgm4883> AcidRain2012, don't worry, this is a single user issue
[21:28] <AcidRain2012> users who have access to different parts of the system
[21:28] <Agamemnus> wow! Purple!
[21:28] <iceroot_> AcidRain2012: you created the mysql-user-stack so you should know how to add users
[21:28] <AcidRain2012> iceroot_, good point. i see it now
[21:28] <AcidRain2012> thx
[21:28] <Agamemnus> Uh-oh.
[21:29] <iceroot_> AcidRain2012: and remember, when you add a new user, that user is also able to connect with ssh and will get a shell on your system
[21:29] <Agamemnus> I guess I changed the initscript.
[21:29] <Agamemnus> So now I have to undo my random monkey typing
[21:29] <Brezmans> Hey ubuntu wizards. I'm installing ubuntu on a mobo with I217LM network card
[21:29] <AcidRain2012> iceroot_, wtf.
[21:29] <ikonia> !wtf > AcidRain2012
[21:29] <Brezmans> and during the installation, ubuntu detects it as a I350 card
[21:29] <swapnil6515> hey monkey
[21:29] <iceroot_> AcidRain2012: sftp is nothing else then ssh with sftp
[21:30] <iceroot_> ftp
[21:30] <Agamemnus> "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found." ..
[21:30] <swapnil6515> bla bla bla......
[21:30] <Agamemnus> I think I know how to fix it..
[21:30] <swapnil6515> ping
[21:31] <swapnil6515> !!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:31] <ikonia> swapnil6515: please stop
[21:31] <ikonia> !topic | swapnil6515
[21:32] <ThePendulum> Greetings. I have a laptop.
[21:34] <Agamemnus> what is the correct way to change the initscript?
[21:34] <ikonia> with a text editor
[21:34] <AcidRain2012> iceroot_, how do i prevent a user from having shell access?
[21:35] <Agamemnus> the location of the initscript.
[21:35] <AcidRain2012> iceroot_, oh, and what ive done is match user login in the sshd.conf
[21:35] <Agamemnus> and can it be blank?
[21:35] <Agamemnus> what's the default initscript?
[21:35] <ikonia> Agamemnus: what ?? defalt initscript ??? what are you talking about
[21:35] <Agamemnus> mysql initscript.
[21:35] <ikonia> Agamemnus: I'm begging you - you don' tknow wha tyou are doing, please please please contact rackspace or hire someone
[21:35] <Agamemnus> when i try changing passwords I get that error
[21:35] <Agamemnus> I'm almost there dude
[21:36] <Agamemnus> I used that program but it gave me an error
[21:36] <ikonia> you should not need to change the init script
[21:36] <Agamemnus> "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found."
[21:36] <ikonia> to use dpkg
[21:36] <ixio> which package would satify this requirement? : A configured Java Runtime (JRE) environment Version 1.6 or better
[21:36] <ikonia> Agamemnus: right - "not found" as in "not there"
[21:36] <Agamemnus> right..
[21:36] <ixio> !jre
[21:36] <Agamemnus> so I need to change the location to a blank file... right?
[21:36] <ikonia> Agamemnus: no ?????
[21:36] <ikonia> Agamemnus: that will break it more
[21:36] <Agamemnus> ok, then no.
[21:37] <Agamemnus> well, what's the default file?
[21:37] <ikonia> Agamemnus: the file it's pointing at is listed...it's missing
[21:37] <OerHeks> Agamemnus, same error for an hour now
[21:37] <Agamemnus> right
[21:37] <ikonia> hence the error "not found"
[21:38] <Agamemnus> so. Is that the right default location?
[21:38] <ikonia> what are you talking about - default location
[21:38] <ikonia> what matters is "that is where it's pointing" - the file is missing
[21:38] <Agamemnus> Is that the right location that it should be at?
[21:38] <ikonia> that is the key issue
[21:38] <Agamemnus> Let's start with that.
[21:38] <ikonia> lets not
[21:38]  * tgm4883 sighs
[21:38] <Agamemnus> I was under the impression that you can change where to find the initscript.
[21:38] <ikonia> Agamemnus: why would you do that ?
[21:39] <Agamemnus> BUT.. assuming you could, is it trying to access the default location?
[21:39] <ikonia> Agamemnus: enough now, you're not listening
[21:39] <ikonia> you're doing random things, not listening and making things worse
[21:39] <Agamemnus> I REALIZE IT ISN'T THERE
[21:40] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, in order to change where it's looking, I believe you would have to compile upstart
[21:40] <OerHeks> Agamemnus, the problem is, not the sytem is trying to get to that location, you are. seems like you have no sufficient rights to do so.
[21:40] <ikonia> tgm4883: I think you can do it as a startup option on init...init, but lets be honest, that's not the issue here
[21:40] <tgm4883> ikonia, agreed
[21:40] <Agamemnus> So it is the correct default location.
[21:41] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, did someone contract you to do this work?
[21:41] <Agamemnus> because.. I think I might have changed it.
[21:41] <Agamemnus> Are you following me here..
[21:41] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, 100%
[21:41] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, I agree. you broke it
[21:41] <Agamemnus> it's a simple yes or no... is it the right location.... if not, then need to change it.
[21:41] <mhd> Hey guys
[21:42] <Agamemnus> So... it could be the right location, but the file isn't there.. or it is the wrong location, and there is a file.
[21:42] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, both?
[21:42] <Agamemnus> or both.
[21:42] <Agamemnus> does anyone know what the default location would be then?
[21:43] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, it's both. The default location for upstart would be /etc/init/mysql.conf    There should be a symlink in /etc/init.d/mysql to /lib/init/upstart-job
[21:43] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, I'm really starting to think I shouldn't be helping you though
[21:43] <Agamemnus> why?
[21:43] <Agamemnus> worked so far.... so close!
[21:44] <tgm4883> well, it's unknown how broken you have made the system. My advice is going to be coming from the standpoint of a non-broken system
[21:44] <ikonia> Agamemnus: NOTHING has worked so far
[21:44] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you are not "so close" you are making things worse
[21:44] <Agamemnus> no, i definitely broke it by following an incorrect guide
[21:44] <ikonia> Agamemnus: I've written you a quick process http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6068126/
[21:44] <ikonia> Agamemnus: right, so stop making it worse
[21:44] <ginjaninja> phunyguy, ok I am on the 3.8 kernel now, I tried connecting to my WPA network but it would not connect, next stop?
[21:44] <Agamemnus> dead
[21:44] <delinquentme> $ ls /dev/tty/*     << all of these folders ... what exactly are they referred to as?  ... would these be "USB" ports?
[21:44] <Agamemnus> "sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --init-file= /etc/init/mysql.conf" .. would this be the correct command to change the location?
[21:45] <Agamemnus> (without the space at the end)
[21:45] <ikonia> Agamemnus: NO NO !!!!!!!!
[21:45] <tgm4883> and.... i'm done
[21:45] <ikonia> Agamemnus: how many times "no"
[21:45] <Agamemnus> well, what's the command to change the location?
[21:45] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, I swear, if you ask that one more time I'm going to SSH into your machine and format it
[21:45] <Agamemnus> Ok
[21:45] <Agamemnus> What should I be asking?
[21:45] <ikonia> Agamemnus: STOP trying to change the location
[21:45] <ikonia> Agamemnus: the file is MISSING
[21:45] <ikonia> Agamemnus: so changing the location....won't do anything it will still be MISSING
[21:45] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, do you have a /etc/init/mysql.conf  ?
[21:46] <Agamemnus> let me check.
[21:46] <Agamemnus> putty crashed again, one moment.
[21:46] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, putty... please tell me someone isn't paying you to do this
[21:47] <Agamemnus> I have a mysql.conf in that location.
[21:47] <ikonia> I don't believe this - I'm out
[21:47] <Obituary> hi you all
[21:47] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, shall we see if we are lucky?
[21:47] <Agamemnus> sure.
[21:47] <schultza> im getting a badsig on a openprinting repos and key
[21:48] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, 'sudo ln -s /lib/init/upstart-job /etc/init.d/mysql'
[21:48] <schultza> is there a channel for him on this server... i've already done an update on the key, no change
[21:48] <Agamemnus> The file already exists.
[21:48] <Agamemnus> Failed to create symbolic link
[21:49] <Agamemnus> I... I don't know.
[21:49] <Agamemnus> let me try the password program once more.
[21:49] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, /etc/init.d/mysql already exists?
[21:49] <AcidRain2012> iceroot_, so pretty much sshd is for people who you trust, and should not be used by anyone who you dont? i dont see how i can allow a group of users to have access to my files without having shell access
[21:49] <ikonia> password program ???
[21:50] <tgm4883> ikonia, I'm guessing he means dpkg-reconfigure
[21:50] <Agamemnus> yes, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5"
[21:50] <ginjaninja> I am having problems connecting to my WPA network on 13.04 , I know there is a fix because I had it working before on 12.04 , I formated and installed 13.04 and it no longer works, it recognizes the network (N router) it shows three different SSID's name , name1, and name2.  But it will not finish the connection. I am on the 3.8.0-19-generic kernel
[21:50] <ginjaninja> it is a rt2500 chipset
[21:50] <ikonia> this is going to cause more damage in the end
[21:50] <ikonia> this is blindly typing things, on a box that has been blindly modified, but someone who has no idea what they are doing.
[21:50] <Agamemnus> yeah, it's still giving an unknown initscript error.
[21:51] <mhd> A friend of mine is installing Ubuntu on a new machine. Upon first boot, it apparently hangs on a black screen. In this state he has rebooted a few times, to no avail. I suspect it might be checking the hardware but I am not certain. Any help?
[21:51] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, did it let you enter a password?
[21:51] <histo> Agamemnus: what do you host on this server?
[21:51] <Agamemnus> yes.
[21:51] <Agamemnus> I entered it in twice.
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | mhd try this
[21:51] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, I wonder if it still took it, but just couldn't restart mysql. Try 'sudo service mysql start'
[21:52] <Agamemnus> Job is already running
[21:52] <Agamemnus> Should mysql be stopped?
[21:52] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, Try 'sudo service mysql restart'
[21:53] <karab44> hello
[21:53] <mhd> @ubottu  It is a terminal, actually. It has a blinking cursor
[21:53] <mhd> Not just black
[21:53] <Agamemnus> I don't think the password changed
[21:53] <Agamemnus> ok.
[21:53] <karab44> I have a wacom bluetooth tablet and it's very laggy. Any suggestions how to fix that?
[21:53] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, why not?
[21:53] <Agamemnus> How would you check? mysql -p?
[21:54] <histo> mhd: Try the nomodeset instructions from ubottu
[21:54] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, 'mysql -u root -p'
[21:54] <mhd> @histo okay
[21:54] <histo> !md5sum | mhd If nomodeset doesn't work confirm you iso downloaded properly
[21:54] <schultza> nvrmd.. found the fix.. sources.list needed a change from lsb3.1 gutenprint to lsb3.2 main on the openprinting repos
[21:55] <Agamemnus> Access denied.
[21:55] <Agamemnus> could there be more than one initscript?
[21:55] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, bummer. Time to contact rackspace
[21:55] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, no
[21:56] <Agamemnus> Well, just for fun, how do I change the initscript?
[21:56] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, you dont
[21:56] <Agamemnus> assuiming I want to change it to exactly what it is
[21:56] <ikonia> I suspect someone is trying to make money out of fixing this
[21:56] <ikonia> and has no clue, hence the persistnac
[21:56] <Agamemnus> yes, a comedy show.
[21:56] <ikonia> eif there was any real desire to fix it a basic support call to rackspace would have gone in by now
[21:57] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, you could check to see why it doesn't think /etc/init.d/mysql exists
[21:57] <Agamemnus> yeah, all they do is link you to an old manual.
[21:57] <tgm4883> I'm not sure what we think rackspace is going to do about this
[21:57] <tgm4883> just because it's hosted on their hardware?
[21:57] <ikonia> tgm4883: standard images, restore files, diff against standard stuff to see what's been changed blind etc.
[21:58] <Agamemnus> well, mysql does exist
[21:58] <Agamemnus> I see it in the list
[21:58] <Agamemnus> could it be "mysql "?
[21:58] <tgm4883> Agamemnus, what broken guide did you follow?
[21:58] <Agamemnus> i started with the mysql guide
[21:58] <Agamemnus> then i went to rackspace
[21:58] <histo> Agamemnus: why are you trying to reset the password?
[21:59] <Agamemnus> histo -- so i can generate an sql file of all the databases
[21:59] <ikonia> Agamemnus: the database you are using - is that owned by root or another user ?
[22:00] <Agamemnus> I don't know.
[22:00] <ikonia> Agamemnus: then why are you doing this ?
[22:00] <Agamemnus> I think it is owned by root.
[22:00] <ikonia> Agamemnus: this is BASIC stuff
[22:00] <ikonia> Agamemnus: think is not acceptable
[22:01] <Agamemnus> tgm, "sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --init-file=/xyz.sql" .. is this an old command? why wouldn't this work?
[22:01] <delinquentme> Soo I need to close minicom
[22:01] <delinquentme> how do
[22:01] <histo> Agamemnus: http://www.howtoforge.com/reset-forgotten-mysql-root-password
[22:01] <ikonia> Agamemnus: is this the database that is being used by the web application you showed me earlier
[22:01] <ikonia> please stop linking to random guides !
[22:01] <ikonia> this is why he is in a mess
[22:01] <histo> ikonia: Well that guide will let him reset the root password for mysql
[22:01] <Agamemnus> yes, there are a few databases there
[22:01] <ikonia> Agamemnus: is this the database that is being used by the web application you showed me earlier
[22:01] <ikonia> Agamemnus: ok - so two simple things 1.) the password for the database MUST be in the application config file - look it up there
[22:02] <Agamemnus> i know what the password is.
[22:02] <ikonia> Agamemnus: 2.) I suspect it's not connecting as root (terrible security) so you should be able to...
[22:02] <Agamemnus> I set it up myself.
[22:02] <ikonia> you know what the password is ???
[22:02] <Agamemnus> not to root
[22:02] <ikonia> then why are you tyring to reset it
[22:02] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you don't need root !!!
[22:02] <Rojod> hi
[22:02] <Rojod> can an user on VNC see when you connect?
[22:02] <histo> ffs
[22:02] <Agamemnus> I don't know what other databases there are.
[22:02] <ikonia> Agamemnus: mysqldump -u $user -d database -p > dumpfile.out
[22:02] <Rojod> * on vnc server
[22:02] <histo> Agamemnus: show databases
[22:02] <ikonia> I asked you "is it owned by root" you said "I think it is"
[22:02] <ikonia> now you are saying it's not
[22:03] <Agamemnus> i thought root can access all the databases?
[22:03] <ikonia> Agamemnus: get a grip on the information you are providing please.
[22:03] <Rojod> (Oh; I know you can see by 'top -u <user>', but are there any other ways?)
[22:03] <Agamemnus> like, you know.... my default.
[22:03] <Agamemnus> histo, that is a good idea
[22:03] <histo> Rojod: what? can you rephrase that?
[22:03] <Agamemnus> you know you can use mysqldump to dump all of it.
[22:04] <histo> Agamemnus: yes
[22:04] <Agamemnus> EXCEPT IT ASKS FOR A PASSWORD
[22:04] <histo> Agamemnus: yeah for the user you specify
[22:04] <ikonia> Agamemnus: what command did you use ?
[22:04] <Agamemnus> "mysqldump -uroot -p --all-databases > alldatabases.sql"
[22:04] <ikonia> Agamemnus: so even though I told you not to use root
[22:04] <Rojod> Well; If I have a user on PC A (VNC server) and I connect to it using PC B (vnc client)... Can the user on PC A see I did connect? (without using 'top -u <user>')
[22:04] <ikonia> and don't use "all databases
[22:04] <ikonia> backup each one to a dump file
[22:05] <Agamemnus> do I need a password for each user?
[22:05] <histo> Rojod: yes there are numerous ways they could tell someone is connected
[22:05] <Agamemnus> I do not know the passwords of all the databases
[22:05] <ikonia> Agamemnus: for a user (any use) that can access it
[22:05] <dicedingus> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a new laptop that came with Windows 8. I've disabled UEFI and enabled booting from USB, but when the laptop loads from the USB it hangs at "SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 2012-10-23 Copyright (C) 1994-2012 H Peter Anvin"
[22:05] <Agamemnus> I think root can access them all. Am I wrong here?
[22:05] <ikonia> root can access anything
[22:05] <Rojod> histo, using terminal or not?
[22:05] <dicedingus> I have tried both Ubuntu and Ubuntu-GNOME images, and both have the same issue.
[22:05] <Agamemnus> right, so that is why I am trying to use root.
[22:05] <histo> Rojod: yes terminal
[22:06] <histo> Rojod: there may be a GUI way that i'm unaware of
[22:06] <Rojod> hm, ok
[22:06] <gordonjcp> Agamemnus: the root user is not the same thing as the MySQL "root" user
[22:06] <histo> Agamemnus: Who set up the mysql server on this machine?
[22:06] <Rojod> the user on the PC never use terminal (newbie on Ubuntu), so don't make sense
[22:06] <Agamemnus> either the fired admin or rackserver
[22:07] <histo> Rojod: Don't use VNC unless you secure it
[22:07] <Rojod> secure as in using with pass?
[22:07] <Agamemnus> so, please, don't yell at me..
[22:07] <Rojod> or otherwise?
[22:07] <xyz123> installed oidentd, but when i get on the irc i have a ~ infront of the username.... how do i get rid of that? i've like googled all the way to hell and there's nothing much based on that question... :)
[22:07] <histo> !vnc | Rojod
[22:07] <Agamemnus> "sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --init-file=/etc/init.d/mysql" would this be ok to set the initfile?
[22:07] <histo> Agamemnus: no one is yelling at you.
[22:08] <Rojod> Well; If I don't forward port, but using it intern... There wouldn't be danger, right?
[22:08] <histo> xyz123: /nick whatever
[22:08] <histo> Rojod: how are you connecting if the port isn't forwarded?
[22:09] <xyz123> histo: why would i change my nick? i have an issue with ident
[22:09] <dicedingus> Oops, I think my message got lost in the ether. Let me paste it again...
[22:09] <dicedingus> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a new laptop that came with Windows 8. I've disabled UEFI and enabled booting from USB, but when the laptop loads from the USB it hangs at "SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 2012-10-23 Copyright (C) 1994-2012 H Peter Anvin"
[22:09] <Mandar> 7
[22:09] <Rojod> PC  is on same network, so I can connect with 192.168.*.***:port
[22:09] <Rojod> so with intern IP ;)
[22:09] <histo> Agamemnus: Why are you trying to run that command?
[22:10] <Agamemnus> no reason
[22:10] <Agamemnus> none
[22:10] <histo> Rojod: ahh yes then you are good
[22:10] <Agamemnus> do i need to turn off mysql before running it?
[22:10] <Rojod> Thanks! Thank you very much :)
[22:10] <histo> Agamemnus: What do you think that command does?
[22:10] <Agamemnus> sets the initfile.
[22:11] <ikonia> Agamemnus: is there a reason you are ignoring the information you've been given 20 times - stop trying to change the init file location/set it
[22:11] <Agamemnus> yes, there is.
[22:12] <ikonia> Agamemnus: why keep asking for help to ignore the information you keep being given
[22:12] <gordonjcp> Agamemnus: what exactly are you trying to do?
[22:12] <Agamemnus> because "sudo ln -s /lib/init/upstart-job /etc/init.d/mysql" says that the file already exists.
[22:12] <litecoin2> mdadm --stop --scan && rm -rf /etc/mdadm
[22:12] <ikonia> Agamemnus: YES, SO WHY CHANGE IT ?
[22:12] <Agamemnus> and the password program says it does not.
[22:12] <ikonia> oops
[22:12] <ikonia> sorry, didn't mean caps
[22:12] <Agamemnus> because I think there's a hidden character there that we can't see.
[22:12] <ikonia> Agamemnus: that is the most random thing you've said so far
[22:13] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you have zero reason to think that,
[22:13] <mgriffin> is there a place i can find dapper packages?
[22:13] <ginjaninja> I am having problems connecting to my WPA network on 13.04 , I know there is a fix because I had it working before on 12.04 , I formated and installed 13.04 and it no longer works, it recognizes the network (N router) it shows three different SSID's name , name1, and name2.  But it will not finish the connection. I am on the 3.8.0-19-generic kernel
[22:13] <mgriffin> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/ is 404 :(
[22:13] <Agamemnus> ok, so what other reason would you say that one program thinks it exists, and another thinks it doesn't?
[22:13] <ikonia> mgriffin: try oldreleases.ubuntu.com
[22:13] <mgriffin> ikonia: ty
[22:13] <histo> ginjaninja: what wifi chipset?
[22:13] <Agamemnus> except that they are two different files, and one actually has a hidden character.
[22:13] <ginjaninja> histo, rt2500
[22:13] <ikonia> Agamemnus: how do you know one has a hidden character ?
[22:14] <Agamemnus> i ran it after stoppinf mysql
[22:14] <Agamemnus> I don't
[22:14] <mgriffin> ikonia: old-releases :D
[22:14] <ikonia> 23:13 < Agamemnus> except that they are two different files, and one actually has a hidden character.
[22:14] <Agamemnus> Do you have any other theory?
[22:14] <ikonia> Agamemnus: stop giving nonsense information, you say on one line - it has a hidden char, I say "how do you know" and you say "I don't"
[22:14] <histo> ginjaninja: what version of ubuntu?
[22:14] <ikonia> Agamemnus: I could probably work it out, but it's impossible with you as you keep making up random stuff and dont listen
[22:14] <ginjaninja> histo, 13.04
[22:15] <genii> mgriffin: Might want to put a hyphen between old and releases in that url.
[22:15] <histo> ikonia: 10$ he tried to edit the file and there is a ~whatever
[22:15] <Agamemnus> My theory was incorrect
[22:15] <gordonjcp> Agamemnus: what *exactly* are you trying to do?
[22:15] <Agamemnus> I am trying to change the root password
[22:15] <ikonia> Agamemnus: it's not a theory - it's random things
[22:15] <ikonia> Agamemnus: I've asked you 10 times to stop making things up / random guesses and stick to fact,
[22:15] <Agamemnus> Ok, then tell me why one says that it exists and the other says that it doesn't.
[22:15] <ikonia> it makes it impossible
[22:15] <gordonjcp> Agamemnus: okay, so why are you fannying about with /etc/init.d/mysql?
[22:15] <Agamemnus> you're just telling me not to do something.
[22:15] <Agamemnus> so what SHOULD I do?
[22:15] <histo> Agamemnus: I provided you instructions 30 minutes ago for changing the mysql root passwd.  Even though you don't need to.
[22:15] <schultza> how do i tell what package installed adobe-flash plugin to the firefox.. id want to remove all instances of it.
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Agamemnus: change the password, maybe?
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Agamemnus: instead of dicking around with irrelevant stuff
[22:16] <Agamemnus> guys, I am using this to change the password:
[22:16] <Agamemnus> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5"
[22:16] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you've already discovered that won't work
[22:16] <Agamemnus> But I get an error saying that "invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.
[22:16] <green_geeky_dude> <- has gone for coffee and asprin - will bring back supplies for those that need it
[22:17] <IamTrying> Kernel mode is set to: vga=770 nomodeset but still in Ubuntu Grub screen its frozen
[22:17] <Agamemnus> I see that it is there
[22:17] <Agamemnus> it is clearly there.
[22:17] <schultza> Agamemnus: what mysql files do you have in /etc/init.d/?
[22:17] <gordonjcp> Agamemnus: log into mysql and change the password
[22:17] <Agamemnus> ._.
[22:17] <gordonjcp> Agamemnus: why are you fannying about with dpkg-reconfigure?
[22:17] <ikonia> gordonjcp: he doesn't know the password, so needs to start it without grant tables and set a new one
[22:17] <histo> gordonjcp: I tried telling him that a while ago
[22:17] <ikonia> we've done this dance, maybe 20 times already
[22:17] <schultza> oh yeah...
[22:17] <mgriffin> hm, dont see .deb files in old-releases
[22:17] <gordonjcp> ikonia: oh okay
[22:17] <Agamemnus> are you sure that will work, histo?
[22:18] <mgriffin> i'll keep looking
[22:18] <histo> Agamemnus: http://www.howtoforge.com/reset-forgotten-mysql-root-password  Follow this or go elsewhere
[22:18] <Agamemnus> that's for 12.10?
[22:18] <ikonia> I could have set this password in 20 seconds
[22:18] <gordonjcp> Agamemnus: irrelevant
[22:18] <Jagst3r15> How do I get the latest version of software in Ubuntu?
[22:18] <histo> !latest | Jagst3r15
[22:18] <dicedingus> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a new laptop that came with Windows 8. I've disabled UEFI and enabled booting from USB, but when the laptop loads from the USB it hangs at "SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 2012-10-23 Copyright (C) 1994-2012 H Peter Anvin" Can anyone suggest how to troubleshoot this issue?
[22:18] <gordonjcp> Agamemnus: that will work for any version of MySQL right back to long-obsolete version 3
[22:19] <gordonjcp> dicedingus: have you tried a UEFI install?
[22:19] <histo> dicedingus: why are you disabling uefi?
[22:19] <Agamemnus> a mysqld process already exists
[22:19] <Agamemnus> failure
[22:19] <ikonia> you can't start 2
[22:19] <gordonjcp> Agamemnus: so, stop mysqld
[22:19] <dicedingus> With UEFI enabled it won't load from the USB at all, even with it set to the top of the boot order.
[22:19] <Jagst3r15> will Ubuntu ever switch to rolling release
[22:19] <dicedingus> I was under the impression that nothing but Windows would boot with UEFI enabled.
[22:19] <histo> dicedingus: disable secure boot is all you need to do, and fastboot on some machines
[22:19] <histo> Jagst3r15: no
[22:20] <gordonjcp> dicedingus: no, UEFI is the normal way to boot things now
[22:20] <Agamemnus> how do I stop mysqld?
[22:20] <dicedingus> Let me check the BIOS for that option. BRB
[22:20] <ikonia> Agamemnus: youve been told 10 times now
[22:20] <ikonia> Agamemnus: why are you not paying attention
[22:20] <Agamemnus> huh, i just forgot
[22:20] <ikonia> then you need to start writing things down/paying attention
[22:20] <ikonia> this is starting to get insulting
[22:20] <Agamemnus> i'll write it down this time
[22:20] <histo> Agamemnus: sudo service mysql stop
[22:20] <Agamemnus> i promise
[22:21] <OerHeks> Agamemnus, maybe worth taking a look at your rackspace control panel   https://apps.rackspace.com/?cp
[22:21] <Agamemnus> ok
[22:21] <Agamemnus> i think it's tarting
[22:21] <Agamemnus> starting
[22:21] <xyz123> can anyone help with with oidentd.... using irssi and the ident keeps returning a ~
[22:21] <xyz123> ;/
[22:22] <Agamemnus> oerheks: i will try that too, thanks
[22:22] <Agamemnus> did it crash already?
[22:22] <Agamemnus> sigh.
[22:22] <histo> xyz123: you realize you are in #ubuntu right?
[22:22] <histo> OerHeks: that was the first thing we told him to do hours ago
[22:22] <xyz123> yes, im running ubuntu :)
[22:23] <Jagst3r15> histo what about this? http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-shuttleworth-and-rolling-releases-7000012503/
[22:23] <histo> Jagst3r15: yes between lts possibly
[22:23] <OerHeks> histo my scroll does not go back that far, thanks :-)
[22:24] <Agamemnus> should it be "sudo service mysql stop" or "mysqld stop"?
[22:24] <Jagst3r15> so he is saying that since the LTS is supported for 5 years they may backport more things to it histo?
[22:24] <ikonia> mysql
[22:24] <dicedingus> gordonjcp histo: I've enabled UEFI, disabled secure boot, and set all USB devices to the top of the boot order. Now when the system boots it says "Diagnosing your PC" and loads into Windows 8 recovery.
[22:24] <histo> OerHeks: well let me summarize, several people tell him how to fix it, he ignores all our suggestions, and starts asking random questions trolling further
[22:24] <histo> dicedingus: are you using a 64bit version of ubuntu
[22:24] <Agamemnus> huh, it's just that putty is constantly crashing
[22:24] <mgriffin> i found what i was looking for in old-releases, it is a bit hard to navigate
[22:24] <mgriffin> thanks folks
[22:24] <dicedingus> histo: Yes, this is an AMD64 cpu.
[22:25] <Agamemnus> and everyone is telling me different things
[22:25] <histo> dicedingus: I know it's a 64bit cpu but did you download a 64bit iso
[22:25] <OerHeks> mgriffin, you could alter your sources with old-version, so navigate would be easy
[22:25] <histo> Agamemnus: because you are asking different questions
[22:25] <Agamemnus> ok, I typed in "sudo service mysql stop", and I see "mysql".
[22:25] <histo> !who | Agamemnus
[22:25] <Agamemnus> What should I do now?
[22:25] <dicedingus> histo: Yes. Hold on, I think i just figured it out.
[22:25] <histo> Agamemnus: Follow the directions you've been provided with
[22:25] <IamTrying> Grub menu i edited the kernel line and then F10 to boot, nothing happens...
[22:26] <mgriffin> OerHeks: i just expected packages to be separated by release as they are for current releases, and the package name differed
[22:26] <IamTrying> Grub menu i edited the kernel line and then F10 to boot, nothing happens... How do i boot?
[22:26] <Agamemnus> histo: I typed it all in
[22:26] <mgriffin> OerHeks: i needed to install one thing but not really otherwise bother the antique
[22:26] <dicedingus> histo: Okay, I managed to boot it using the F12 boot menu I think. Thanks for the pointers, UEFI is new stuff for me. :)
[22:26] <Agamemnus> histo: should I wait now?
[22:26] <histo> Agamemnus: typed all what in?
[22:26] <Agamemnus> I pressed <enter> after the "exit;"
[22:27] <Agamemnus> histo: http://www.howtoforge.com/reset-forgotten-mysql-root-password
[22:27] <OerHeks> mgriffin, oke, otherwise you will need this > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Requirements
[22:27] <Agamemnus> nothing is happening
[22:27] <histo> Agamemnus: then you've now reset your password. restart mysql
[22:27] <Agamemnus> now putty crased
[22:27] <mgriffin> OerHeks: oh, i found what i needed, sorry if that was unclear
[22:27] <Agamemnus> crashed.
[22:27] <histo> Agamemnus: are you being paid for this?
[22:27] <mgriffin> reset root password in ubuntu is super easy, just log in with the debian-sys-maintainer account
[22:27] <Agamemnus> histo: no.
[22:27] <mgriffin> (for mysql)
[22:27] <histo> Agamemnus: sudo service mysql restart     and do your stupid backup
[22:28] <roasted_> any of you guys ever use ubuntu with a touch screen laptop? I just fired up a liveUSB of LTS and I can't figure it out.
[22:29] <Agamemnus> histo: "stop: Unknown instance:"
[22:29] <histo> Agamemnus: when did you get that error?
[22:29] <Agamemnus> histo: "sudo service mysql restart"
[22:29] <histo> Agamemnus: k
[22:29] <Agamemnus> I typed it in once more.
[22:29] <ikonia> histo:  it's because he's started it without the init job - so the pid doesn't match
[22:29] <ikonia> it's still running from the skip-grants startup
[22:30] <Agamemnus> crash.
[22:30] <histo> yeah
[22:30] <Agamemnus> what init job?
[22:30] <ikonia> enough, this is a waste of time/pointless
[22:30] <histo> Agamemnus: you started the server with mysqld_safe you need to stop that.
[22:30] <Agamemnus> ok, look histo, I followed your link's instructions
[22:30] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you don' have the basic knowledge to actually do this
[22:31] <Agamemnus> ikonia: thanks.
[22:31] <ikonia> Agamemnus: hire someone professional, it should take approx 3 minutes
[22:31] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you are going to end up losing your data
[22:31] <Agamemnus> histo: how do i stop it? "sudo service mysql stop" ?
[22:31] <AcidRain2012> i have the worse news in the world. i just did chmod 775 -R / on accident. how can i fix this?! terminal wont even open :'(
[22:32] <phunyguy> sudo killall mysqld if you want to stop it.
[22:32] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: can't undo it
[22:32] <AcidRain2012> =((((((((((((((
[22:32] <AcidRain2012> worse mistake ever. how can i go about fixing it?
[22:32] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: can't undo it
[22:32] <phunyguy> AcidRain2012: boot a livecd and grab the data you want, format, reinstall.
[22:32] <bekks> AcidRain2012: Reinstall or restore your backup.
[22:32] <AcidRain2012> :( for real?!
[22:32] <phunyguy> AcidRain2012: next time make backups.
[22:32] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: can't undo it
[22:32] <phunyguy> :)
[22:32] <genii> AcidRain2012: Yes, for real.
[22:32] <AcidRain2012> fml
[22:32] <histo> Agamemnus: kill the mysql pid
[22:33] <Agamemnus> ok, i typed in
[22:33] <histo> Agamemnus: or mysqladmin shutdown
[22:33] <Agamemnus> histo: I typed in "sudo killall mysqld"
[22:33] <phunyguy> At this point I am unsure if trolling or serious, Agamemnus
[22:33] <Agamemnus> now can I follow that link?
[22:33] <Agamemnus> ...
[22:33] <mgriffin> Agamemnus: may i make a run at walking you through it? you just want to reset root password for mysql in ubuntu?
[22:33] <histo> Agamemnus: I though you already followed it? wtf are you on drugs?
[22:33] <chaotic_good> resize2fs: On-line shrinking not supported
[22:34] <Agamemnus> I DID
[22:34] <chaotic_good> ok sonoga gun I resize my / -150G
[22:34] <NuSuey> anybody know, why are my fans so loud after a new install of 13.10? :p
[22:34] <Agamemnus> I told you what happened
[22:34] <chaotic_good> it had 195G free
[22:34] <histo> Agamemnus: then you are done now backup your stupid database with the new password you set
[22:34] <chaotic_good> then resize2fs not work!
[22:34] <NuSuey> have this pc http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c02741889&lang=en&cc=us&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=5035344
[22:34] <histo> Agamemnus: sudo service start msyql && backup your database
[22:34] <Agamemnus> i can't, it didn't work.
[22:34] <Agamemnus> I told you.
[22:34] <Agamemnus> I'm trying again
[22:34] <chaotic_good> can someone help?
[22:34] <histo> Agamemnus: mysqladmin shutdown
[22:34] <chaotic_good> I am really in the shit here
[22:34] <mgriffin> chaotic_good: can't be mounted
[22:35] <histo> Agamemnus: sudo service mysql start
[22:35] <histo> Agamemnus: backup
[22:35] <ikonia> chaotic_good: tone down the language please.
[22:35] <phunyguy> !language | chaotic_good
[22:35] <chaotic_good> soory
[22:35] <chaotic_good> its my /
[22:35] <mgriffin> chaotic_good: livecd
[22:35] <chaotic_good> I guess I need console to it
[22:35] <phunyguy> chaotic_good: slow down, ask your question clearly, and one line please.
[22:35] <Agamemnus> histo: should I be seeing "mysql" on a single line after doing "mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables " ?
[22:35] <phunyguy> too much chatter in here for 3 line statements.
[22:35] <histo> Agamemnus: yes
[22:36] <Agamemnus> should "mysql --user=root mysql" have a semicolon?
[22:36] <histo> Agamemnus: But you've said you already ran those commands, so i don't know why you are runnning them again.
[22:36] <mgriffin> histo: why wouldn't you just use the debian account to get in?
[22:36] <ikonia> Agamemnus: why are you running it again ?
[22:36] <ginjaninja> havign problems authenticating on my rt2500 chipset to a wpa network on 13.04 , found this in dmesg ,  2902.032916] wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:22:3f:93:67:dc by local choice (reason=3)
[22:36] <ikonia> you've already run it you said
[22:36] <Agamemnus> it kept crashing, it would not finish
[22:36] <chaotic_good> lvresize -L -150G myvolgroup/root
[22:36] <histo> ikonia: I believe he's a troll now
[22:36] <chaotic_good> since / had 194G free
[22:36] <schultza> looks like chaotic_good is trying to shrink his reiserfs.
[22:36] <Agamemnus> Because it kept crashing!
[22:36] <chaotic_good> but the resize2fs didnt work
[22:36] <chaotic_good> ext4
[22:37] <histo> Agamemnus: what crashed?
[22:37] <usuario> iara12fernanda
[22:37] <usuario> maiara12fernanda
[22:37] <phunyguy> usuario: I hope that isn't your password....
[22:37] <Agamemnus> histo: putting all the commands in, then pressing <enter> just freezes putty.
[22:37] <schultza> oh. chaotic_good, are you running with / as the active system or did you boot to another ? i think you cannot change / while you are using it.
[22:37] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you can't put them on one line
[22:37] <Agamemnus> Yes, I am pressing enter each time.
[22:37] <usuario> maiara12fernanda
[22:37] <histo> Agamemnus: eache command ends with ;
[22:38] <histo> Agamemnus: did you get to exit;
[22:38] <Agamemnus> should "mysql --user=root mysql" end with a ";"?
[22:38] <ikonia> Agamemnus: they are sequental, and one runs an sql session
[22:38] <ikonia> Agamemnus: it doesn't say ";" in the web page, so why are you asking
[22:38] <schultza> Agamemnus: no. they're are talking of the commands once you get into mysql.
[22:38] <ikonia> Agamemnus: the web page explains it clearly
[22:38] <Agamemnus> Just making sure
[22:38] <histo> Agamemnus: the commands on that page are correct. follow them exactly
[22:38] <phunyguy> ikonia: he is trolling.
[22:38] <NeonSpeed> What is the fastest or best Torrent client for Ubuntu? Transmission is really slow for me.
[22:38] <Agamemnus> I am not trolling
[22:38] <phunyguy> ikonia: someone can't possibly be this slow.
[22:38] <Agamemnus> honest to god
[22:38] <mgriffin> :( being ignored is no fun when you have a simple, elegant solution
[22:39] <Agamemnus> how do I know if I got into mysql?
[22:39] <mgriffin> using skip-grant-tables in any case is really silly
[22:39] <phunyguy> Agamemnus: mysql> should be a hint
[22:39] <phunyguy> oh.
[22:39] <Agamemnus> look guys... I am not trolling
[22:39] <phunyguy> Agamemnus: mysql> should be a hint
[22:39] <Agamemnus> please stop it
[22:39] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you've been told the info - 20 times
[22:39] <histo> AGoodName: the commands with the ; at the end are entered into a prompt that starts mysql>
[22:39] <Agamemnus> all I see is "mysql"
[22:39] <ginjaninja> havign problems authenticating on my rt2500 chipset to a wpa network on 13.04 , found this in dmesg ,  2902.032916] wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:22:3f:93:67:dc by local choice (reason=3)
[22:39] <schultza> mgriffin: is there a better way?
[22:40] <usuario> maiara12fernanda
[22:40] <ikonia> usuario: can you please stop saying that
[22:40] <phunyguy> usuario: can we help you with something? :)
[22:41] <qin> ikonia: I think he is trying to authenticate to chanserv
[22:41] <mgriffin> schultza: cat /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[22:42] <schultza> i would, but i dont have mysql installed. since that problem ive gone to postgres. This is ag's issue.
[22:42] <mgriffin> schultza: there is an account that dpkg creates to handle shutdown and startup, it has ALL ON *.* ... WITH GRANT OPTION
[22:42] <mgriffin> schultza: use those creds and then simply modify the root account or whatever you want to do
[22:42] <schultza> ah, ok.
[22:42] <chaotic_good> oh me oh my
[22:43] <acidrain> just so yall know. "sudo chmod 775 -R /" should be ban from the terminal. that is the windows equivalent to "y | del C:\"
[22:43] <chaotic_good> so if I reduced / 150G with lvm and the resize2fs didnt work am dead in the water?
[22:43] <phunyguy> !danger
[22:43] <acidrain> oh yes. deffinately do NOT run that command
[22:44] <bekks> acidrain: chmod has nothing to do with del.
[22:44] <wallrock91> ciao midnightrider
[22:44] <acidrain> bekks, might as well. it pretty much did that
[22:44] <acidrain> only difference is it didnt del
[22:44] <bekks> acidrain: chmod does not delete  single bit.
[22:44] <phunyguy> hey take it to offtopic please.
[22:44] <jrib> acidrain: this channel is for asking or answering support questions; no need to come in here and give command warnings for no good reason
[22:45] <acidrain> jrib, there is a good reason. lol!
[22:45] <jrib> acidrain: do you have a support question?
[22:45] <mgriffin> acidrain: everyone uses $command -R wrong eventually, now you know
[22:45] <phunyguy> jrib: he ran that command....
[22:45] <phunyguy> :-/
[22:45] <bekks> phunyguy: And he was told to reinstall now or to restore his backup.
[22:45] <acidrain> jrib, yes. i did run that cmd >_>
[22:45] <mgriffin> acidrain: when using -R, put echo at the front until you are sure
[22:45] <jrib> acidrain: what's your question?
[22:46] <qin> acidrain: i do think you can edit your bashrc to prevent some commands...
[22:46] <histo> acidrain: it's not the same
[22:46] <histo> acidrain: you can still use a livecd and pull whatever user files out you need.
[22:46] <acidrain> man thx for all the tips. ill check it out later. im just mad right now. ill see yall in about 2hrs after i get my system functional again. reformatting now
[22:46] <acidrain> histo, yea ive grabbed all my important files
[22:46] <histo> acidrain: why did you run that command
[22:47] <acidrain> i was trying to do /Server/FTP/wwb/, but i accidently hit enter after i typed "/"
[22:47] <histo> acidrain: why are you running it as sudo?
[22:47] <acidrain> my system started loading and making noises. i knew i had messed up right then
[22:48] <acidrain> it can be ran as not sudo? :/
[22:49] <histo> acidrain: you need to be carefull typing things in like that.
[22:49] <qin> one more reason to not use ftp ;)
[22:49] <acidrain> qin, it was sftp service. folder was just named ftp. lol
[22:49] <histo> acidrain: I would get your files out before you format
[22:50] <acidrain> histo, files are backed up to external drive now
[22:50] <histo> acidrain: then no loss. only 10 minutes to reinstall
[22:50] <acidrain> ugh! burning image now
[22:50] <acidrain> histo, i had so many servers running :'(
[22:51] <phunyguy> histo: unless yo uare on gentoo like me :(.. then it's a 2 week process.
[22:51] <acidrain> ill have to reconfigure them all. except postfix
[22:51] <histo> acidrain: copy out your configs
[22:51] <acidrain> postfix, ices, www, sql. <-- all i got
[22:51] <histo> acidrain: and fix there perms
[22:51] <histo> s/there/their/
[22:52] <LinuxGold> s/histo/history/g
[22:52] <acidrain> at least now i can freely browse my drive ;p
[22:52] <acidrain> lol
[22:54] <yeyeman> oh man
[22:54] <wbjohnston> Hey, does anyone have the ubuntu 13.04 nexus 7 boot image
[22:55] <wbjohnston> the download is down for it, I've got the main image but not the boot image
[22:55] <phunyguy> !touch | wbjohnston
[22:55] <genii> wbjohnston: #ubuntu-touch please
[22:55] <phunyguy> oh thats what I meant
[22:55] <wbjohnston> roger
[22:55] <wbjohnston> #ubuntu-touch
[22:55] <wbjohnston> whoops
[22:56] <themanwithnoface> when ubuntu starts up i'm getting "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet  or is not present"
[22:56] <yeyeman> Hello. How I can become Developer for open source systema?
[22:56] <blazemore> themanwithnoface: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[22:56] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: 13.04 raring
[22:56] <blazemore> !ot | yeyeman ask in here for discussion about that
[22:56] <chris5000> yeyeman: get a degree in computer science and then join the LKML
[22:57] <chris5000> do people get voice in this channel for participation?
[22:57] <chris5000> as in +v
[22:57] <themanwithnoface> blazemore:  i'm dual booting ubuntu and windows 7 off the same 500 GB hdd.  ubuntu's partition is 190 GB
[22:57] <Naphatul> if i update the kernel with update manager will it use that one instead of the one i installed?
[22:58] <yeyeman> Is blazemore person but want to be channel bot?
[22:58] <mgriffin> yeyeman: blazemore summoned the bot to give you information
[22:58] <yeyeman> Thank you
[22:59] <johndoesz> nickserv indentify kali79
[22:59] <mgriffin> yeyeman: look up in search engine "google summer of code" you might find a mentor that way for some project you are interested in
[22:59] <mgriffin> johndoesz: haha
[23:00] <blazemore> Literally nothing can be done about that. Moving on.
[23:01] <chaotic_good> ok I need to run resize2fs /dev/volgroupme/root
[23:01] <blazemore> themanwithnoface: Can you please post the contents of your /etc/fstab file to http://paste.ubuntu.com do you know how to do that?
[23:01] <chaotic_good> I did lvresize -L -150G volgroupme/root
[23:01] <chaotic_good> how can I do this?
[23:01] <chaotic_good> I am going to the data cneter to fix the box
[23:01] <chaotic_good> do I need a live cd?
[23:01] <blazemore> chaotic_good: Yes
[23:01] <themanwithnoface> blazemore:  yes :)
[23:01] <Naphatul> i have the 3.10 kernel installed manually, will the update manager set the one it installs as default?
[23:01] <chaotic_good> it seems I wont be able to opearte even in single user form box and modify that filesystem
[23:02] <chaotic_good> what is a good livecd touse?
[23:02] <bekks> chaotic_good: ubuntu live cd.
[23:02] <blazemore> chaotic_good: The same version the server is
[23:02] <SupaYoshi> Heya
[23:02] <SupaYoshi> does anybody know why i cant see samba shares that have valid users = useraccount in it?
[23:03] <blazemore> details, SupaYoshi
[23:03] <SupaYoshi> its very odd, i can see all other shares in network at windows, but not these..
[23:03] <blazemore> Ubuntu version, are you looking in nautilus? How can you reproduce the issue?
[23:03] <chaotic_good> ok
[23:03] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6068350/
[23:03] <chaotic_good> so what I boot and then choose some kinda rescue mode?
[23:03] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6068351/
[23:03] <blazemore> themanwithnoface: thanks
[23:03] <SupaYoshi> Oh hey blazemore!
[23:03] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: thank YOU, good sir.
[23:04] <blazemore> chaotic_good: What version is the server running?
[23:04] <SupaYoshi> Ubuntu 12.04, ;) All other shares work just fine ;) except for the last 2 i added in the smb.conf
[23:04] <blazemore> themanwithnoface: Could you please also post the contents of /etc/crypttab
[23:06] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: it's just one line "cryptswap1 /dev/sda6 /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256"   also my terminal name looks like this: "new@SA:" btw dunno if that helps...
[23:07] <SupaYoshi> blazemore: nevermind got it working ;) was a special character in the config
[23:07] <delinquentme> how do shell script echo for the output of  $ dmesg | minicom
[23:08] <alessio_> irc://irc.oltreirc.net/multisala
[23:08] <chris5000> delinquentme: dmesg | grep minicom | echo;
[23:08] <chris5000> delinquentme: is that what you meant... ?
[23:09] <delinquentme> chris5000, tried it .. no bones.
[23:09] <chris5000> delinquentme: you can also use a temporary file and refer to that file in your script
[23:09] <designbybeck___> Can't figure this out! Flash has been crashing in all browsers on 12.10. I tried to unintsall and reinstall, didn't seem to help, Then I did an upgrade to 13.04, Didn't help, Then Unintstalled Flash and reinstalled it again.... Still crashes! Any ideas?
[23:09] <designbybeck___> Ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[23:09] <chris5000> delinquentme: dmesg | grep minicom >> dmesg.minicom.output.txt
[23:09] <chris5000> and then refer to that txt file. you can later delete it in the same script depending on your goals
[23:10] <travnewmatic> list
[23:10] <delinquentme> yeah I want the output displayed in the same console
[23:10] <chaotic_good> 12.04 lts
[23:10] <chaotic_good> so once I boot to like recue
[23:10] <l4cr0ss> can anyone help me figure out why even after i added a library location to my path the program needing it can't locate the library
[23:11] <chaotic_good> I can just mount the /
[23:11] <chaotic_good> and then run the resize2fs on it rihgt?
[23:11] <chris5000> delinquentme: so you want to output to terminal AND use the information for some other purpose in the script? in that case you can pipe to tee. it outputs the information and allows you to also write to a txt file
[23:11] <chris5000> dmesg | grep minicom | tee dmesg.minicom.output.txt
[23:11] <chris5000> should work
[23:13] <themanwithnoface> blazemore:  is there any other info that may be crucial?  i'm using a dell laptop as well
[23:13] <chaotic_good> in single user mode
[23:13] <chaotic_good> are all of the filesystems unmounted?
[23:13] <chaotic_good> or not?
[23:13] <designbybeck___> Does FLASH crash for anyone else?
[23:13] <bekks> chaotic_good: Everything unmounted.
[23:14] <chaotic_good> really?
[23:14] <designbybeck___> this is the only ubuntu machine I have problems with
[23:14] <chaotic_good> then do I need the rescue disk?
[23:14] <bekks> chaotic_good: Really. You need a live cd.
[23:14] <designbybeck___> my unltrabook and office ubuntu 13.04 have no problems wit FLASH
[23:14] <chaotic_good> by the way why is root mounted as errors remount,ro
[23:14] <chaotic_good> wtf
[23:14] <chaotic_good> read onyl farks me hard
[23:14] <chaotic_good> why is online resizing of ext4 not supported????? for /??
[23:14] <bekks> chaotic_good: Because your filesystem has encountered errors.
[23:14] <chaotic_good> this shoulda workd liek a charm
[23:15] <chaotic_good> I online resize ext3 even no problemo
[23:15] <chaotic_good> b4
[23:15] <chaotic_good> ok bringing live cd
[23:15] <chaotic_good> :(
[23:15] <bekks> chaotic_good: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24027/how-to-resize-a-ext4-root-partition-at-runtime
[23:19] <chaotic_good> is there any way
[23:19] <chaotic_good> to make the resize2fs work
[23:20] <chaotic_good> the filesystem has gone read only
[23:20] <chaotic_good> :(
[23:22] <chaotic_good> ok going to data center with livecd
[23:22] <chaotic_good> so get into rescue mode
[23:22] <chaotic_good> then do the resize2fs right?
[23:25] <Jordan_U> chaotic_good: Did you really shrink the logical volume *before* shrinking the filesystem?
[23:25] <chaotic_good> yes
[23:26] <rdw200169> chaotic_good: yeah...
[23:26] <Jordan_U> chaotic_good: Do you realize now that that is completely wrong and will lead to filesystem corruption and data loss?
[23:26] <moarcores> Greetings! I have a new computer running Win8, I hate Win8... but my USB 2.0 ports do not work in ubuntu. Gigabyte motherboard, 970A-D3P... I've read the forums and the one suggestion I found did not work, disable iommu.
[23:26] <chaotic_good> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lvm#Shrink_logical_volume
[23:26] <pinko_> I bought a usb audio device, but ubuntu doesn't recognize it, what can I do? I read about some people who bought the same product and had it working right away after connecting
[23:26] <chaotic_good> yep
[23:26] <chaotic_good> but it worked fine in the past
[23:26] <rdw200169> chaotic_good: you really did that *before*!?
[23:27] <Jordan_U> chaotic_good: You may have been very lucky in the past, but I would never *expect* that to work.
[23:27] <chaotic_good> /dev/mapper/myvlgroup-myphyvol on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[23:27] <rdw200169> chaotic_good: Jordan_U: I would have been fired from my current job long ago if I did that and it resulted in data loss!
[23:27] <chaotic_good> yeah maybe I never shark root / before
[23:28] <chaotic_good> yeah
[23:28] <chaotic_good> I might get jacked
[23:28] <chaotic_good> now
[23:28] <Electron> hello
[23:28] <Electron> :-)
[23:28] <chaotic_good> anyway jsut boot ubuntu 12.04 64 server lts and then resuce mode?
[23:28] <Electron> like a juice?
[23:28] <chaotic_good> should get me to promp I need?
[23:28] <MonkeyDust> !enter | chaotic_good
[23:28] <Jordan_U> chaotic_good: Root filesystem or not, it is not expected to work unless you are lucky enough not to have any data past the point you clobbered.
[23:29] <chaotic_good> oh I have 194G free adn shrunk 150G
[23:29] <chaotic_good> plenty of space
[23:29] <chaotic_good> the resize2fs just failed
[23:29] <pinko_> I bought a usb audio device, but ubuntu doesn't recognize it, what can I do? I read about some people who bought the same product and had it working right away after connecting
[23:29] <blazemore> themanwithnoface: Sorry for the delay. Edit the file as root (with sudo) and comment out that one line by putting a # in front of it
[23:29] <chaotic_good> and that crapp remount ro mount option made it ro
[23:29] <chaotic_good> jacking th ebox
[23:29] <Jordan_U> chaotic_good: Free space can be anywhere in the filesystem, it's not always at the end.
[23:29] <Electron> https://juju.ubuntu.com/
[23:30] <chaotic_good> ok but please I just boot to some kinfa recue mode with the lts 12.04 right?
[23:30] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: which line?  in crytpttab?
[23:30] <chaotic_good> ?
[23:30] <Jordan_U> chaotic_good: You lobbed off good data, that is the one and only problem here.
[23:30] <Electron> let's goal
[23:30] <chaotic_good> dude no argue
[23:30] <chaotic_good> please jsut tell me how to get the cd to work as live cd?
[23:30] <chaotic_good> please
[23:30] <Jordan_U> chaotic_good: OK, now we need to try to recover as much data as possible, and for that I need you to answer some questions.
[23:31] <blazemore> !audio | pinko_
[23:31] <Jordan_U> chaotic_good: Do you have backups of all of the data on this filesystem? If so, the safest thing is to just restore from backups to a new fileystem.
[23:31] <Electron> :-)
[23:31] <Electron> 47%
[23:32] <blazemore> !ot > Electron
[23:32] <moarcores> Why the hell does USB3 work for me but no USB2... what is this wizardry... gigabyte 970a-d3p
[23:33] <moarcores> In winodws usb2 works but not 3(until i install the driver)
[23:33] <moarcores> I have a feeling it's the BIOS, I have it in legacy mode, iommu is off but that doesn't help
[23:34] <clj_newb_2345> I need to set the resolution of my external monitor to somethhing not lsited on teh scren. How can I do this?
[23:35] <blazemore> moarcores: How much RAM do you have?
[23:35] <Electron> ubottu tell me he don't know memmake
[23:35] <moarcores> blazemore,  2x4GB ddr3 1600 cl8
[23:36] <moarcores> I know there's a bug when you have less than 4GB, but that was fixed
[23:36] <blazemore> moarcores: You could try installing the 32-bit version with the pxe kernel
[23:36] <Electron> ubottu@ubuntu/bot/ubottu
[23:37] <blazemore> thats pae not pxe
[23:37] <Electron> ?
[23:37] <histo> !xrandr | clj_newb_2345
[23:37] <Electron> ati
[23:37] <moarcores> blazemore,  I have a feeling that may work, but I need 64-bit for apps that need more than 4GB, pae is slower too
[23:37] <histo> !who | Electron
[23:38] <moarcores> too bad irc does not support parallel channels
[23:38] <Electron> thank you histo
[23:38] <histo> blazemore: how woudl the 32bit version of ubuntu have anything to do with his USB issues?
[23:38] <blazemore> moarcores: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[23:38] <blazemore> histo: Just Googling around, it affects 64 bit kernels but not 32 bit
[23:38] <histo> blazemore: what effects it?
[23:38] <reisio> moarcores: parallel channels?
[23:38] <moarcores> blazemore,  13.04 main
[23:39] <blazemore> histo: His specific motherboard model
[23:39] <histo> ahh'
[23:39] <blazemore> It might be a kernel bug I'm trying to find one to see if there's been a fix released in a later kernel he could upgrade to
[23:39] <moarcores> reisio, an irc extension that never caught on supported multiple chat theads, subchannels of sorts
[23:39] <moarcores> blazemore, Thanks man
[23:40] <reisio> moarcores: no entender
[23:40] <Electron> it's a red line on screen
[23:41] <moarcores> blazemore, It smells like a kernel bug since USB3 works but not 2, I think AMD had a similar problem with the 800 chipsets and the 900's are nearly identical.
[23:42] <reisio> moarcores: you look at bitlbee at all? :p
[23:43] <moarcores> reisio, Nope, I'll check that out. I'm using xchat which sucks, quassel is the best I currently know of
[23:44] <histo> moarcores: weechat
[23:44] <reisio> it's not exactly an IRC client so much as a gateway
[23:44] <reisio> but it allows various things, like dumping messages from different locations into one place, etc.
[23:45] <moarcores> histo,  looks like a minimal quassel with extension support, ugh, yet another irc client to check out lol
[23:46] <energizer> I'm trying to set up a USB mic. Can someone help?
[23:47] <moarcores> energizer,  easy t get the right mic to be used is to disable the ones you don't want
[23:49] <energizer> So I see the box i want in my "Sound settings -- Input"
[23:49] <energizer> i click on it, and Sound settings crashes
[23:49] <energizer> immediately
[23:50] <moarcores> energizer,  what mic and sound card do you use?
[23:50] <energizer> i have AT2020 and Presonus audiobox interface
[23:50] <Adam_Dymitruk> I have an Asus rog laptop g74sx-a. It has an nvidia card in it. How can I enable the screen dimming keys?
[23:50] <energizer> when i click on the presonus interface in sound settings is when the problem happens
[23:51] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: which line?  in crytpttab?
[23:52] <moarcores> Soo my usb3 works but not usb2, here's a paste of my system http://pastebin.com/U4e77XVX  motherboard is 970a-d3p   Anyone have any ideas? disabling iommc did not work
[23:53] <dicedingus> I just set up Ubuntu-Gnome on this laptop, and it's able to connect to unsecured wi-fi networks, but it can't connect to any networks with WPA or WEP. What might be causing that issue? Drivers?
[23:54] <moarcores> dicedingus, have gnome keyring on?
[23:54] <dicedingus> moarcores: How do I check?
[23:55] <moarcores> dicedingus, uhh, well it's a package, and it should auto start, haven't used gnome since they went to 3 lol
[23:55] <Adam_Dymitruk> Anyone?
[23:55] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: comment out the only line in crypttab?
[23:56] <moarcores> Adam_Dymitruk,  Well if brightness works in software you could make custom key binds to change brightness... i don't know a simpler solution tbh
[23:56] <Adam_Dymitruk> I could never get them to work...
[23:57] <Adam_Dymitruk> Anyone with a laptop and the brightness keys work?
[23:57] <Rad-> Hey where do I stick a file to be launchable by a name
[23:57] <jrib> Rad-: system-wide or just for your user?
[23:57] <Rad-> doesn't matter. single user system  jrib
[23:57] <jrib> Rad-: put it in ~/bin
[23:57] <jrib> Rad-: (if you have to create that directory then you'll need to log in again for it to take effect)
[23:57] <Rad-> i tried that. the teacher's instructions say to do that but it just doesn't wokr.. all because he wants us to use new version of netbeans
[23:58] <Rad-> i rebooted and it doesn't work jrib
[23:58] <jrib> Rad-: are you using ubuntu?
[23:59] <blazemore> themanwithnoface: Yes and then reboot
[23:59] <blazemore> Rad-: What Ubuntu version are you using? What is the output of the command: echo $PATH
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Rad-: Please pastebin the output of "ls -l ~/bin/"