[02:34] <OvenWerk1> zequence: the upgrade from image doesn't work. I'm not sure why, it could be that I am trying to upgrade a system on a USB hard drive... but there was nothing to suggest that was undoable.
[02:35] <OvenWerk1> Anyway, after a fresh install of raring and updating it, there was no upgrade option... I don't think I have ever seen that actually.
[02:37] <OvenWerk1> The upgrade to 13.10 from 13.04 using the net was fine aside from the extra kernel
[06:03] <zequence> OvenWerk1: Could it be because it's still marked as a dev release?
[08:03] <smartboyhw> OvenWerk1, oops, so it can't upgrade by images?
[08:03] <smartboyhw> -.-
[08:03] <smartboyhw> Weirdly, Xubuntu says they can
[10:02] <smartboyhw> zequence-work: testing upgrades here, still installing 13.04. It seems image-based upgrades failed for OvenWerks
[10:08] <zequence-work> I'll do an upgrade this afternoon. 
[10:09] <zequence-work> Just finished my lecture. Some lunch. Salary negotiations, and then to work :)
[10:09] <smartboyhw> zequence-work: Can you do an image-based one?
[10:09] <smartboyhw> zequence-work: Heh, salary negotiations:P
[10:09] <zequence-work> smartboyhw: Yes. I'll try that
[10:12] <smartboyhw> Ouch, haven't made the release announcements-.-
[10:30]  * smartboyhw abandons his upgrade test
[10:30] <smartboyhw> My internet is largely disrupted
[11:48] <smartboyhw> zequence-work: I can't do the upgrade tests, my network is largely disrupted due to it (I'm running in a VBox)
[13:04] <smartboyhw> zequence-work, do you want to have a look at the release announcement for Beta 1?
[13:04] <smartboyhw> (And do try to not ping timeout;P)
[13:08] <smartboyhw> ttoine, hey
[13:08] <ttoine> hello
[13:13] <OvenWerks> smartboyhw: it may have something to do with lots of patitions on that machine
[13:14] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, UbuntuKylin is failing the test too
[13:19] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, yes, the bug is marked invalid due to that multiple operating systems are not supported
[13:23] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, so, let me remove it from release notes-.-
[13:40] <zequence-work> smartboyhw: Do you have a link?
[13:41] <smartboyhw> zequence-work: http://paste.kde.org/pca60ee24/
[13:41] <smartboyhw> (Have to shorten the title, it can't be too long-.-
[13:42] <smartboyhw> I mean, in the Pastebin
[13:43] <zequence-work> OvenWerks: Have you looked at getting your packages show up in USC?
[13:43] <zequence-work> I forget what was needed..
[13:44] <smartboyhw> zequence-work, what kinds of application did we newly include (except our own packages?)
[13:44] <smartboyhw> I can think of Orca, but anything else?
[13:45] <zequence-work> smartboyhw: Looks good to me
[13:45] <zequence-work> smartboyhw: You could check the log for the seeds bzr branch
[13:49] <smartboyhw> zequence-work: Hmm, not much
[13:49] <smartboyhw> Except Orca and brltty and khelpcenter4 (for Kdenlive doc)
[13:53] <smartboyhw> I guess what I need to do now, is just to wait till the release officially happens
[13:54]  * smartboyhw goes back to his SAT study guide
[14:48] <OvenWerks> smartboyhw: Ya, the upgrade from image only works for one drive, one os installed. For me that makes it untestable.
[14:48] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, well, we will have to make clarifications in the testcase
[14:48] <OvenWerks> Yes.
[15:02] <OvenWerks> smartboyhw: I have removed my test results because they are invalid.
[15:02] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, good
[15:02] <smartboyhw> Well, we are ready for release, just waiting for upstream orders
[15:03] <OvenWerks> I am not sure how I could do this test... maybe take the "other os" and mv / /offline?
[15:04] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, dunno
[15:04] <smartboyhw> But, it certainly can't have two Ubuntu(s) at the same time
[15:04] <OvenWerks> That should be clear in the testcase
[15:05] <OvenWerks> Also in any documentation for the user doing the upgrade... which I haven't seen :)
[16:15] <OvenWerks> zequence:  I will try a mv / /offline/ on a partition so I have only one os and see if I can do the upgrade from image.
[16:16] <OvenWerks> sb has gone to bed I would guess... or study.
[16:17] <OvenWerks> zequence: we don't seem to anything in the video section for recording video from either fw or v4l.
[16:21] <OvenWerks> The vlc video player is supposed to be able to. I'll check.
[16:37] <OvenWerks> I think we should add vlc to our list for 14.04... with some testing.
[16:40] <OvenWerks> I am also testing lives or LiVES as they call it.
[16:53] <OvenWerks> BTW we do ship mplayer, but no GUI to go with it. There seems to be both smplayer (qt based) and gnome-mplayer (adds about 13 extra packages as well) and mplayer-gui... which won't even start.
[16:55] <OvenWerks> I think mplayer may be part of libav or part of ubuntu-core... we may as well include a gui for it. I personally would lean towards smplayer as being the least disruptive.
[17:05] <OvenWerks> LiVES seems to deal with recording live video in a much better way than VLC.
[17:06] <OvenWerks> There is a delay, but I think at least some of that is V4L drivers.
[18:46] <madeinkobaia> Hi ttoine, what's up ?
[20:37] <cub> o/
[20:37] <cub> just letting you know I
[20:38] <knome> yes, you
[20:38] <cub> am still alive. ;) just busy bee.