[07:58] <Makyo> rick_h, https://codereview.appspot.com/13560043/
[09:09] <rick_h> jujugui small tiny review and qa please https://codereview.appspot.com/13289049
[09:20] <Makyo> rick_h, https://gist.github.com/makyo/6461440
[09:28] <raywang>  hi, does anyone know how to change juju gui's admin password?
[09:30] <rick_h> raywang: it's the environment admin password
[09:30] <rick_h> raywang: if you change that in your environments.yaml it'll change in the gui
[09:31] <raywang> rick_h, yeah, i know, but i need to change it :)
[09:31] <raywang> rick_h, but i already have a running env deployed by juju
[09:31] <rick_h> raywang: :( talking here souds like your out of luck 
[09:32] <rick_h> raywang: if you change the admin password in the environment.yaml I'l told you have to re-deploy the environment
[09:32] <rick_h> I'l means I'm
[09:32] <raywang> rick_h, well, user sometimes need to change the password then. it's necessary to have this functionality :)
[09:34] <rick_h> raywang: yea, so there's work to be done to support multiple users down the road and that might do what you want
[09:34] <raywang> rick_h, agreed :)
[09:34] <rick_h> but right now, there's not a way we know of to change the admin password for the environment 
[09:34] <rick_h> without the reploy your environment story. 
[09:35] <raywang> rick_h, ok, thanks for the information :)
[09:35] <rick_h> sorry I don't have better news
[09:36] <raywang> np :)
[09:51] <Makyo> hatch, rewrite core in node pls
[10:20] <rick_h> jujugui another tiny review please, and QA as well https://codereview.appspot.com/13588043 with an easy QA of "get up a ghost to deploy a charm"
[10:58] <bcsaller> https://codereview.appspot.com/13418046/ has the proposed databinding reset support gary wants
[11:01] <benji> bcsaller: do you need a review?
[11:01] <bcsaller> benji: that would be great
[11:02] <benji> will do
[11:22] <bcsaller> benji: thanks for the review
[11:22] <benji> my pleasure
[11:29] <bac> morning
[11:31] <rick_h> morning
[12:35] <frankban> guihelp: https://codereview.appspot.com/13358045
[12:36] <bac> frankban: i'll do it
[12:36] <Makyo> frankban, I'll get the other.
[12:36] <frankban> thanks bac and Makyo 
[13:12] <bac> hi frankban, i'm attempting to do qa on your landscape link branch.  how do i get a unit to show the link?
[13:13] <frankban> bac: using improv --landscape, but do that only if you are very interested, Matyhew already did QA.
[13:13] <bac> frankban: ok
[13:13] <frankban> bac: thanks
[13:16] <sinzui> orangesquad, bac, benji: Does anyone have a few minutes to review the migration 18 fix: https://code.launchpad.net/~sinzui/charmworld/migrate-new-index/+merge/184292
[13:16] <benji> sinzui: sure
[13:20] <bac> rick_h: is the charmbrowser letter-spacing scrunchiness a known issue?
[13:20] <rick_h> bac: yes, we're looking at it. It seems to be due to r1015 and trying to verify that's true and if so figure out what it did
[13:20] <bac> okey doke
[13:21] <bac> rick_h: tip:  look for "scrunchy: true" in the css and turn it back off.
[13:22] <rick_h> bac :)
[13:22] <rick_h> jcsackett: ping, don't land you brnach please
[13:22] <rick_h> I'm working on updating the charm token to make the result of that suck less
[13:23] <benji> sinzui: Looks good.
[13:23] <sinzui> thank you benji
[13:24] <sinzui> abentley, you can use https://code.launchpad.net/~sinzui/charmworld/migrate-new-index/+merge/184292 for testing jenkins integration
[13:26] <abentley> sinzui: It's not approved yet.  My scripts are supposed to trigger when status is approved.
[13:26] <abentley> sinzui: Or were you inviting me to approve at my leisure?
[13:27] <Makyo> hatch, https://codereview.appspot.com/13527048/diff/7001/app/widgets/charm-token.js
[13:30] <rick_h> bac: problem identified, update coming
[13:30] <Makyo> bac, +1
[13:30] <jcsackett> rick_h: ok, in standup, can you talk at 10?
[13:30] <rick_h> jcsackett: sure thing
[13:50] <Makyo> jamie___, http://comingsoon.jujucharms.com/:flags:/upgradeCharm/
[13:54] <hatch> bac, I need frankban's branch so I'm going to go do that review
[13:55] <bac> hatch: don't.  i did it just forgot to send
[13:55] <hatch> oh haha ok then :) thanks!
[13:56] <bac> done
[14:21] <rick_h> jcsackett: so I'll land that filter branch. Hit a token update blocker in that the related api doesn't provide the owner/series info in the call so I can't fill out those tokens
[14:21] <bac> hi huwshimi, will you be landing your charmworld restyling branch soonish?
[14:22] <huwshimi> bac: I would like to. I need to fix up the makefile and make a couple of simple changes and then I'll try and land it. I'll get to that in half an hour or so.
[14:23] <bac> huwshimi: ok.  i think i'll start my work using your current version as a pre-requisite branch
[14:23] <bac> i need to add some stuff to bundle.pt and don't want to fuss with the old nasty one
[14:23] <huwshimi> bac: Great. Remember that the make won't work yet though.
[14:23] <bac> rt
[14:34] <bac> huwshimi: theme.css has gone away, right?  if so, could you update .bzrignore and hacking.rst to remove mentions?
[14:43] <huwshimi> bac: OK will do.
[14:45] <bac> huwshimi: i'm adding some comments to your merge proposal.  if you want to defer the one about the 'readme' section feel free.
[14:45] <huwshimi> bac: OK thanks I'll take a look
[14:47] <bac> rick_h: will gary be around later?
[14:49] <rick_h> bac: no idea tbh. I'd imagine, but they're in mgt stuff atm
[14:55] <rick_h> jujugui review time please https://codereview.appspot.com/13239049
[14:55] <jcsackett> rick_h: looking.
[14:58] <jcsackett> rick_h: we don't need shouldShowIcon anymore?
[15:04] <benji> bac: I have a small branch up for review: https://code.launchpad.net/~benji/charmworld/fetch-bundle-head-via-api/+merge/184329
[15:04] <bac> benji: ok.  will look in a bit
[15:04] <benji> thanks
[15:08] <jcsackett> rick_h: nm, found where it was added back in.
[15:13] <bac> benji: what would you think about making bin/test (possibly moved) a static file so we could more easily make it smarter?  i'd like something like 'bin/test -d' as shorthand for specifying all the pdb stuff.
[15:16] <benji> bac: sounds good to me; the main reason it isn't static now is that I preserved the use of $(INI), but that really looks like unnecessary indirection to me
[15:17] <benji> (unless the charm overrides it to set its own INI file, in which case we need a honkin' big comment at the top of the Makefile)
[15:17] <bac> benji: you are the slayer of unnecessary indirection
[15:18] <benji> next time I do fantasy LARPing that'll be my name
[15:23] <bac> benji: avatar?  https://plus.google.com/photos?pid=5920530088824285986&oid=117034961047606128906
[15:23] <benji> lol
[15:24] <rick_h> jcsackett: yea, ordered those because it was annoying me :)
[15:24] <rick_h> jcsackett: thanks for looking
[15:24] <benji> that's a cool photo of a cool statue
[15:25] <rick_h> jcsackett: ping, so did the text move under the icon in your note there?
[15:25] <benji> I like how you maintained context by including the graves in the bottom of the frame, it makes the picture unfold like a story
[15:26] <jcsackett> rick_h: no, the text is aligned with itself, to the left; the whole text block now looks a little unbalanced on the small size b/c text is aligned with icon at the top but no at the bottom. like i said, it's not wrong, it just looks weird to me.
[15:26] <rick_h> jcsackett: ok cool yea that's signed off by UX and 'as designed'
[15:26] <rick_h> jcsackett: thanks, just wasn't sure if I was reading it right
[15:27] <rick_h> jcsackett: so submitting my branch now, your branch can go after that
[15:27] <jcsackett> rick_h: no problem. i thought it was probably intended, which was why i said it's not a block.
[15:27] <rick_h> jcsackett: let me know if you don't get to it and I'll submit it later
[15:27] <jcsackett> rick_h: awesome, thanks.
[15:38] <rick_h> jcsackett: all done
[15:45] <benji> bac: I have a few free minutes, do you want me to work on the staticification of bin/test or do you already have something started?
[15:46] <bac> benji: i have not started
[15:46] <benji> k
[15:46] <bac> benji: fyi, i've just made quote/unquote_yaml idempotent.  it was previously modifying in place but then return results leading to confusion.
[15:47] <benji> sounds good
[15:47] <benji> that's one of the things I don't like much about mutable datastructures; it's easy to fall into that kind of trap
[15:49] <bac> benji: yeah.  best to pick your poison but not do both
[15:49] <benji> yep
[15:53] <bac> benji: we're not having a call, i assume? if not, i'm going to lunch at the top of the hour
[15:53] <bac> oi, should do your review first
[15:54] <benji> nope, no call as far as I am aware
[15:54]  * benji notices that (on QWERTY keyboards) "aware" is typed with only the left hand.
[15:56] <bac> benji: did
[15:57] <benji> thanks
[15:58] <bac> benji: consider:  tesseradecades, aftercataracts, and sweaterdresses
[15:59] <bac> is there nothing wikipedia doesn't know?
[16:00] <benji> does wikipedia know if there is anything wikipedia doesn't know?
[16:08] <huwshimi> bac: Not going to get to that branch today :(
[17:08] <sinzui> jcsackett, Can you check you email and help with a test I outlined?
[17:23] <jcastro> hey rick_h 
[17:23] <jcastro> since the keyboard on HN thing worked
[17:23] <jcastro> how about submitting a juju one for me?
[17:29] <jcsackett> sinzui: checking now; sorry for the delay, i was lunching.
[17:29] <sinzui> jcsackett, np, we need to eat
[17:30]  * sinzui needs to eat less often though
[17:43] <jcsackett> sinzui: bootstrapping now. 
[17:45] <jcsackett> sinzui: i verify both seeing desert in the nova list and the pem.
[17:46] <sinzui> ^ abentley the gremlins are in your setup
[17:47] <abentley> sinzui: I am seeing if this fixes it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/327177/cannot-bootstrap-due-to-precise-images-in-regionone-with-arches-amd64-i386
[17:48] <sinzui> abentley, jcsackett, I get the expected CA in environment configuration since jcsackett did not send me the certs. 
[17:49] <sinzui> abentley, oh, that implies you are not seeing canonistack properly. It does have.
[17:49] <abentley> sinzui: it does have what?
[17:50] <sinzui> abentley, canonistack does have the simple streams metadata. I was able to select an image based on the defaults in the env and via constraints.
[17:52] <sinzui> abentley, I am somewhat stumped at the moment. I will do some searching too
[18:02] <sinzui> jcsackett,  bac: what version of juju do you have?
[18:02] <bac> sinzui: for juju-core i build my own
[18:03] <jcsackett> sinzui: 1.13.3~raring-amd64
[18:13] <sinzui> okay. We might need to keep our versions close. abentley just upgrades from 1.12. I suppose bac will tell us if he breaks
[18:20] <benji> bac: I couldn't discern quite what it was you wanted to do to the script so I just made it static so it is easier to manage (but in scripts/ instead of bin/ because making bin/ a mixture of generated and static files would have been a pain): https://code.launchpad.net/~benji/charmworld/static-bin-test/+merge/184359
[18:21] <bac> benji: i was thinking having it take a simple argument like '-d'  and then turn on all of the pdb stuff
[18:21] <benji> bac: what constitutes pdb stuff?
[18:21] <benji> (and nosetest already has a -d)
[18:21] <bac> benji: the extra goo inserted for 'make testdebug'
[18:22]  * benji looks
[18:22] <bac> benji: is it superfluous?
[18:23] <benji> nope, not really superfluous, I guess the desire is motivated by the zope.testrunner's -D flag which acts like a combination of --pdb and --pdb-failures
[18:28] <benji> bac: I'd say we add --with-id unconditionally and expand --pdb into both --pdb and --pdb-failures; how's that sound?
[18:30] <bac> good
[18:30] <bac> as long as there is no downside to --with-id unconditionally
[18:31] <benji> I can't see one.  The nice upside is that --failed will re-run only tests that failed the last run even if you forgot to run with --with-id
[18:59] <benji> bac: how about it now https://code.launchpad.net/~benji/charmworld/static-bin-test/+merge/184359
[19:01] <bac> benji: i'm glad you wrote line 38 and not me
[19:02] <bac> benji: done.  nice.  thanks.
[19:10] <benji> heh
[19:20] <benji> bac: I started early and took a short lunch because I need to run some errands this afternoon.  If there is anything more I can do for you today, I need to do it soon. ;)
[19:24] <bac> benji: i'm trying to finish up a branch but won't do it in time
[19:24] <benji> bac: no worries, I'll catch you on the flipside
[19:26] <bac> benji: have a good weekend
[19:26] <benji> thanks, you too
[21:44] <rick_h> jcastro: just back, what's going on?