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[02:43] <testerer> Hey there..I want to install Lubuntu 13.04 desktop .iso using a text-only installer.  Is this possible.  (ps i don't want to use the alternative installer because it wants to install from the internet and i have only slow wifi so that rules out that option).
[02:45] <testerer> The reason i want a text only installer is because the full desktop installer halts with a black screen and cursor and doesn't do anything.
[02:47] <Unit193> tonyt: The alternate installer doesn't download everything from the internet, the mini.iso/netinst do.
[02:48] <Unit193> testerer: ^
[02:48] <Unit193> tonyt: Sorry.
[02:52] <testerer> oh ok.  The altenate CD must have downloaded updates then. So i'll disable that and try again.
[02:52] <Unit193> !alternate-#kubuntu
[02:52] <ubottu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal
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[08:17] <Monday> is there an app which easily allows you to setup keyboard hotkeys?
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[10:52] <intellectus> How do i move desktop icons in Lubuntu 10.04?  They refuse to drag.
[10:53] <intellectus> should i chmod +rwx ~/Desktop  ??
[11:02] <intellectus> Did 10.04 support desktop icon dragging?
[11:41] <Antisober552> hi guys i have a problem i want to set the resolution higher but i cant as the display is unknown
[12:04] <Antisober552> can anyone help me
[12:44] <Impossible> why do i keep getting a monitor bug for booting dual screens
[12:44] <Impossible> does anyone know a fix
[12:45] <Impossible> i have my netbook to have its screen shut off and just my monitor on but i see like two wallpapers on the screen
[12:45] <Impossible> one from the notebook and the other from the monitor
[15:42] <holycrapforcrap> hi, its been awhile since i have last used an ubuntu based OS - but shouldnt i get asked for my password if launching a program from bash that requires root priviligues?
[15:42] <wxl> holycrapforcrap: sure should
[15:43] <holycrapforcrap> crap
[15:43] <wxl> …unless you have recently sudo'd something
[15:43] <holycrapforcrap> it doesnt
[15:44] <holycrapforcrap> wxl: i installed iptraf via bash....but i waited like 10 mintes before launching it
[15:44] <holycrapforcrap> it then aks for root privs....but doesnt ask for my password
[15:45] <wxl> why don't you provide the actual feedback
[15:45] <holycrapforcrap> true
[15:45] <holycrapforcrap> mom.
[15:45] <genii> If you're running off the livecd it won't ask for a password
[15:45] <wxl> there is that
[15:46] <wxl> and if iptraf was installed in say, ~/bin, it probably won't either (unless it inheriently requires it)
[15:47] <holycrapforcrap> i closed the xterm....so i cant provide the feedback anymore - too bad, sry
[15:47] <wxl> although assumedly you installed it with apt?
[15:48] <holycrapforcrap> no live-cd, freshly installed lubuntu alternate, yes i installed iptraf via "sudo apt-get iptraf"
[15:48] <wxl> and in that same xterm, you tried to run it?
[15:49] <holycrapforcrap> yes, BUT i waited like 10 minutes - so that root privilgues werent in use anymore
[15:49] <wxl> did it run?
[15:50] <holycrapforcrap> it did on: "sudo iptraf" but didnt ask for my password
[15:50] <wxl> and when you ran iptraf, did it run?
[15:50] <holycrapforcrap> no - thats the point
[15:51] <holycrapforcrap> i think
[15:51] <wxl> maybe you should do over
[15:51] <wxl> and provide the actual feedback
[15:51] <holycrapforcrap> ok, ill try
[16:01] <holycrapforcrap> wxl: im sorry this is a really slow old machine + ive forgotten nearly all command operations i once knw
[16:02] <wxl> holycrapforcrap: seems to me all you need to do is open a terminal, run iptraf, confirm it doesn't work, and copy and paste the result into pastebin and then copy and paste the url here
[16:02] <holycrapforcrap> wxl: the feedback is german so i fear it wont help much? feedback seems legit though - shell i proive it anyway?
[16:02] <wxl> holycrapforcrap: i can't read german but there are ubuntu channels that can. still there's machine translation
[16:03] <wxl> !de | holycrapforcrap
[16:03] <ubottu> holycrapforcrap: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!
[16:08] <holycrapforcrap> wxl: thx, for your apteience and advice though
[16:08] <holycrapforcrap> patience
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[16:15] <Monday> how many more days til the next version is released?
[16:15] <wxl> !release
[16:15] <ubottu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[16:16] <bioterror> !when
[16:19] <Monday> is there a specific date?
[16:19] <wxl> if you follow the links, yep. oct 17
[16:21] <Monday> i probably won't use it as a main desktop since support is so short, but i still want to try it out lol
[16:22] <bioterror> there's no LTS for Lubuntu
[16:22] <bioterror> so it really does not matter
[16:22] <bioterror> I rather use newer LXDE components than old
[16:23] <Monday> reinstalled an o/s every 6 to 9 months each having a new bug gets tedious
[16:25] <Monday> i have a computer that had Windows XP for 10 years and it still works fine
[16:27] <Monday> ccleaner is a really good tool for windows
[16:28] <bioterror> a little off topic
[16:28] <bioterror> but yes it is. if someone at my work complains that computer are slow. I download it, run it and laugh how it makes them think that the computer is now much more faster
[16:31] <Monday> along with deleting files and cleaning registry, you can use to remove programs, set startup apps.. etc
[16:33] <Monday> bioterror, do you know who Richard Stallman is? the founder of the GNU Project and Free Software Foundation, basically the reason why GNU + Linux exists, here is talks about Ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
[16:33] <Monday> is what he is saying apply to Lubuntu or only on the standard Ubuntu?
[16:35] <bioterror> if you want to chat, you're free to join #lubuntu-offtopic
[16:35] <bioterror> this channel is for support questions
[16:35] <bignono1> hi
[16:36] <bignono1> how do i make a one click open an icon on desktop?
[16:37] <bioterror> bignono1, you have to make a .desktop -file to your ~/Desktop
[16:38] <bioterror> or copy from /usr/share/applications/ to ~/Desktop
[16:38] <bignono1> i want to use one click only to open an icon
[16:41] <bioterror> bignono1, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1943740&p=11779526#post11779526
[16:42] <bignono1> thank you sir
[16:42] <bignono1> cool
[16:42] <bignono1> ok now
[16:43] <bignono1> thanks again
[17:44] <ianorlin> 14.04 is planned to be first LTS
[17:45] <bioterror> who will keep maintaining the LXDE? thru the years?
[17:46]  * ianorlin does not know
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[20:23] <Guest55811> How do you upgrade gracefully from 12.04 to 13.04 without messing up your computer?
[20:23] <Guest55811> Lubuntu
[20:24] <Guest55811> or is it necessary to upgrade?
[20:26] <phillw> Guest55811: you would need to do a 12.04 --> 12.10 --> 13.04 upgrade (2 steps).
[20:27] <Guest55811> oh  so how do you do that, being I'm new?
[20:27] <phillw> They are working on upgrades that can jump intermediate releases, but it is still a work in progress.
[20:27] <Guest55811> o.k.
[20:28] <phillw> Guest55811: as always, ensure you have a backup of your own data. the update manager should offer you to upgrade unless you have told it not to remind you.
[20:28] <Guest55811> Can you upgrade right from 12.04 on your computer without a live cd?
[20:29] <Guest55811> o.k.   the update manager
[20:29] <phillw> Guest55811: yes, it will download from the internet. Upgrading was possible using an alternate image, but this has been discontinued.
[20:30] <Guest55811> so. the only thing would be to save data somewhere else. Thanks
[20:31] <Guest55811> now, what about software add-ons I put on or off. Will those change with the upgrades?
[20:32] <phillw> the upgrade will use the listing of default programmes. if you have added new ones, they will be kept. If they were installed correctly, they may also be upgraded to new versions for you.
[20:32] <Guest55811> o.k. thanks for the info!
[20:32] <phillw> as you are doing quite major work on your computer, having a backup is always advised.
[20:33] <Guest55811> right
[20:34] <phillw> murphy's law states that if you do not have a backup, work will fail. If you have a backup... the work will progress perfectly :)
[20:35] <wxl> i'm pretty sure you're only half correct in that statement, phillw XD
[20:35] <phillw> :P