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[01:10] <bazhang> seriously?
[01:11] <bazhang> I can't imagine ignoring ubottu have em in /msg all the time
[01:22] <GiGaHuRtZ> Why hello
[01:23] <bazhang> GiGaHuRtZ, yes
[01:23] <GiGaHuRtZ> Why am KI banned from a channel that i have said like two sentences in the past 12 months?
[01:23] <bazhang> KI?
[01:23] <GiGaHuRtZ> and i wasnt kicked
[01:23] <GiGaHuRtZ> I*
[01:23] <bazhang> which channel
[01:23] <GiGaHuRtZ> #ubuntu+1
[01:23] <GiGaHuRtZ> trying toi get 13.10 support and questions answered
[01:23] <GiGaHuRtZ> suddenly i am banned oddly
[01:24] <bazhang> you were asked to remain on topic and continued nonetheless
[01:24] <GiGaHuRtZ> in #unbutu+1?
[01:24] <GiGaHuRtZ> uh what?
[01:25] <GiGaHuRtZ> gota the public log of this supposed nothingness?
[01:25] <bazhang> !1984 | GiGaHuRtZ
[01:25] <GiGaHuRtZ> its not likre im not already evading all the bans i have in ubuntu channells, #ubuntu, $#kiubuntu etc, so one more wont hurt. But i wouldnt mind seeing the crapp
[01:25] <GiGaHuRtZ> npo, i wont want the lkinl
[01:26] <GiGaHuRtZ> looking in that trease trove takes for evetr
[01:26] <bazhang> GiGaHuRtZ, ban evading is not a good idea
[01:26] <IdleOne> well seeing how you are ban evading anyway, you won't mind leaving here.
[01:26] <GiGaHuRtZ> right, but pici and tm_t have both seen the log where the banning op told me to ads long i follow rules
[01:29] <IdleOne> enjoy
[05:46] <Tm_T> GiGaHuRtZ seems to have very selective memory
[05:46] <Tm_T> in the other news, last night was rather good for watching stars
[14:22] <ASHER1> hello
[14:22] <ASHER1> i have problem
[14:22] <ASHER1> someone set in my address ban and i not doing nothing
[14:22] <ASHER1> someone please can remove my ban on ubuntu?
[14:23] <DJones> ASHER1: I removed you initially because you were responding to bot requests for !list, you then rejoined and continued doing it
[14:23] <DJones> If you can disable the script thats doing that, I'm quite happy to remove the ban
[14:24] <ASHER1> i not bot
[14:24] <ASHER1> someone inside my pm and ask me if i bot
[14:24] <DJones> Thats fine, but please disable the script then
[14:24] <ASHER1> what script
[14:24] <ASHER1> ?
[14:24] <ASHER1> i dont have script
[14:25] <ASHER1> i used on Normal mirc
[14:25] <DJones> ASHER1: The one that does this 14:06 < ASHER1> I syndicate the following
[14:25] <ASHER1> what
[14:25] <ASHER1> i dont understand
[14:25] <DJones> !list
[14:25] <ASHER1> I syndicate the following:
[14:26] <DJones> That
[14:26] <DJones> Everytime somebody runs the !list command you automatically respond with that lne
[14:26] <DJones> line
[14:26] <incog> !list
[14:26] <ASHER1> I syndicate the following:
[14:26] <ASHER1> :\
[14:26] <incog> @find pthc
[14:26] <DJones> incog: That is not helpful
[14:27] <ASHER1> this man
[14:27] <ASHER1> ask me on pm
 are you a bot
[14:27] <incog> i have no intention of behing helpful, this nerd was whining in #freenode about it so i came to have a look
[14:27] <incog> -h
[14:27] <DJones> incog: This isn't a channel for idling, please part the channel
[14:27] <ASHER1> doing again
[14:27] <ASHER1> !list
[14:28] <ASHER1> DJones
[14:28] <ASHER1> write now agaib
[14:28] <ASHER1> n
[14:28] <AlanBell> !list
[14:28] <ASHER1> now its ok
[14:28] <ASHER1> i know now
[14:28] <DJones> ASHER1: Thanks
[14:28] <ASHER1> i get ban
[14:28] <ASHER1> ok but you can please
[14:28] <DJones> I'll remove the ban now
[14:29] <ASHER1> tell they remove ban
[14:29] <ASHER1> thanks
[14:29] <AlanBell> incog: show is over, off you go please
[14:29] <ASHER1> sorry about that i not see this problem before
[14:30] <incog> seems like you cant mock an op for fatfingering a mode
[14:30] <incog> now i have a legit reason to be here
[14:30] <DJones> Well, if you hadn't used offensive language, I wouldn't have had an issue with the comment
[14:31] <incog> were you offended that you got called out on messing up?
[14:31] <DJones> ASHER1: You should be able to rejoin now
[14:31] <incog> would it have been less offensive if i talked in baby talk?
[14:31] <ASHER1> ok
[14:31] <kloeri> incog: enough
[14:31] <incog> hello kloeri
[14:31] <incog> havent seen you in a while
[14:32] <incog> i was just chatting in #freenode about the NS letter you were served, sucks man, i kinda know that feelin
[14:32] <incog> im under a pile of NDAs and confidentiality agreements
[14:33] <kloeri> yes, we don't care about your delusions
[14:33] <incog> we?
[14:33] <incog> how many kloeris are there?
[14:33] <kloeri> freenode staff at the very least but I suspect most people would agree
[14:33] <incog> or do you speak for some greater whole
[14:34] <AlanBell> is this conversation going anywhere useful?
[14:34] <incog> it would if you stopped butting in
[14:34] <incog> so rude
[14:35] <incog> so, about my completely just and due ban in #ubuntu
[14:35] <incog> i would like it kept as-is
[14:35] <incog> if not, extended
[14:35] <AlanBell> ok
[14:36] <AlanBell> anything else we can help you with today?
[14:37] <incog> i wouldnt like to stay in a channel that considers mockery of an ops failure to be a bannable offence, so i agree with this
[14:37] <DJones> I'm quite happy with that, your comment has been noted, if there's nothing else, please note the no idle policy in the channel
[14:37] <incog> im seeing 55 idlers right now
[14:37] <incog> is this a selective policy?
[14:37] <AlanBell> yeah, lets make that 54
[14:50] <lncog> yes, hello, i would like to report a user for ban evasion and a blatant disregard of impotent and imaginary irc powers
[14:50] <lncog> also i heard he idled in a no idle zone, a heinous crime
[14:59] <IdleOne> staff, incog using his cloak to ban evade.
[14:59] <incog> a socks4 proxy acutally
[14:59] <incog> based in ukraine
[15:00] <incog> http://www.fiestafrog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Randall.jpg
[15:01] <IdleOne> would be nice if you just gave it a rest and parted the channel. clearly you are more leet then we are.
[15:02] <incog> its not about chest pounding about being the biggest nerd, its willful disobedience against unenforceable and pathetic rules
[15:02] <incog> but thanks for being the channel tattle tale, im sure nobody could have figured it out on their own
[15:02] <IdleOne> So say we stop trying to enforce this no idle rule. What do you gain by idling in this channel?
[15:03] <incog> i show how impotent irc babysitting is, with no effort
[15:03] <IdleOne> to whom?
[15:03] <incog> to whomever thinks their imaginary powers work
[15:03] <IdleOne> alright.
[15:04] <AlanBell> and when you have made your important and insightful point?
[15:04] <incog> do you not see the sisyphean futility, analbell?
[15:05] <AlanBell> I normally would refer to it as whack-a-mole, but it does resemble the punishment of Sisyphus too
[15:06] <holstein> if i didnt agree with the freenode network rules, i would run my own IRC server
[15:06] <incog> then you automate it, then i automate it, ive done this dance for decades
[15:06] <incog> we do run our own
[15:07] <AlanBell> we?
[15:07] <incog> the GNAA
[15:08] <incog> yes, hello
[15:08] <incog> as i was saying
[15:08] <incog> we refers to the GNAA
[15:09] <incog> i am current defacto president as weev is in chains
[15:09] <IdleOne> We don't care.
[15:09] <incog> thanks for the k-line kloeri, it really showed me
[15:09] <incog> IdleOne, who is we? surely it cant be the person that asked
[15:09] <IdleOne> We is everyone in this channel.
[15:10] <incog> so great IdleOne, spokesperson for 55 chatters, how are you today
[15:10] <incog> as a collective
[15:11] <incog> good job, op
[15:20] <jncog> i seem to be getting klined
[15:36] <Myrtti> yes hello, this is the dog
[15:55] <genii> Floodbot1 seems caught in a loop in #u-unregged
[17:12] <Agamemnus> hello.
[17:12] <ikonia> hello
[17:13] <Agamemnus> ikonia, i sent you a few private messages
[17:13] <ikonia> yes, I read them about 20 seconds before you joined
[17:13] <Agamemnus> i see
[17:14] <ikonia> I understand you'd like your ban removed from #ubuntu
[17:14] <Agamemnus> there is no need to chat here if you don't want to, I can see your messages in pm just fine.
[17:15] <ikonia> no no, it's fine here, this is a public channel, so anything we say here can be seen by other members of the ops team
[17:15] <Agamemnus> Well, in that case.
[17:15] <Agamemnus> I feel that both you and some other users in the channel were very abusive to me, verbally and mentally.
[17:16] <ikonia> I understand that
[17:16] <Agamemnus> at first, I felt that you were helping me.
[17:16] <Agamemnus> But then, going and telling me non-options constantly was just not productive.
[17:16] <Agamemnus> I am a programmer and I can debug and test various scenarios
[17:16] <Agamemnus> You just kept telling me the same thing over and over.
[17:17] <ikonia> ok.
[17:17] <Agamemnus> Eventually, I did solve the problem.. some files were missing, and the mysql database was corrupted
[17:17] <ikonia> no, it wasn't
[17:17] <ikonia> but "ok"
[17:17] <ikonia> please continue
[17:17] <Agamemnus> how do you know it wasn't?
[17:18] <Agamemnus> I re-installed mysql server 5.5, and then I did "sudo aptitude install -f"
[17:18] <Agamemnus> if you must know.
[17:18] <ikonia> because you showed me your screen and went through the information with me, and I warned you multiple times that if you continued doing what you where doing you risked losing the database and data
[17:18] <ikonia> either way, please continue with what you want to say
[17:19] <Agamemnus> after I showed you the screen you should have seen that there was no "mysql >" prompt. I told multiple times in the channel what I was seeing, but there was a mis-communication
[17:19] <Agamemnus> It was simply crashing at that point.
[17:19] <ikonia> it is not crashing
[17:19] <ikonia> as I told you 15+ times
[17:19] <Agamemnus> Yeah, I waited a very long time.. it never got to mysql >
[17:19] <ikonia> it was behaving %100 correct
[17:20] <ikonia> correct, and it was never going to get there - as I told you last night
[17:20] <Agamemnus> See, now that's not a solution
[17:20] <ikonia> no, it's not
[17:20] <ikonia> please continue, lets get to the point
[17:20] <Agamemnus> the idea of it was to get to the prompt.
[17:20] <Agamemnus> and type in some mysql commands.
[17:20] <Agamemnus> but that never happened.
[17:20] <ikonia> correct
[17:20] <Agamemnus> and you are saying it would never get to that point -- why?
[17:21] <Agamemnus> instead of answering (you don't have to answer) you just brushed me off
[17:21] <Agamemnus> then banned me.
[17:21] <ikonia> is that how you see things ?
[17:22] <Agamemnus> repeating the same non-constructive thing is not helpful to anyone.
[17:22] <ikonia> ok, so lets look at it from the other side of the fence shall we
[17:22] <ikonia> and lets be honest,
[17:23] <ikonia> you have zero linux skills and awareness - which it's self is not a problem, you state that you are trying to break into a mysql database as you don't have the password, you are told what to do, and what not to do,
[17:23] <ikonia> you ignore that advice multiple times, you give people incorrect information while stating you must not lose this data
[17:23] <ikonia> you fail to follow instructions given to you multiple times
[17:24] <Agamemnus> that's not an accurate portrayal of what happened.
[17:24] <ikonia> please tell me where I am wrong
[17:24] <Agamemnus> first of all "zero linux skills and awareness" -- right. That's not true. I've been using linux for a few years.
[17:24] <ikonia> then you are not competant
[17:24] <ikonia> as I said, lets be honest.
[17:24] <Agamemnus> not knowing how to fix the server issues is not the same thing as being "not competent"
[17:25] <ikonia> no, not knowing that a process will not return a prompt until you start it in the background is basic
[17:25] <ikonia> knowing that "mysql >" means you are in the mysql prompt - is basic
[17:25] <Agamemnus> no one asked me if I saw "mysql >"
[17:25] <ikonia> knowing how to stop/start a service - is basic
[17:25] <ikonia> Agamemnus: you asked "how do I know if I'm in the mysql prompt"
[17:25] <Agamemnus> none of these things are basic.
[17:25] <Agamemnus> I saw "mysql"
[17:25] <Agamemnus> not "mysql >"
[17:25] <ikonia> sure sure
[17:26] <Agamemnus> totally different.
[17:26] <Agamemnus> because I knew something was off
[17:26] <ikonia> the bottom line is - your skill level was not at a stage to be able to safely do what you wanted to do
[17:26] <Agamemnus> as I only saw mysql -- the continuation of a directory
[17:26] <Agamemnus> ..and a prompt.
[17:26] <Agamemnus> Yet, I managed to do it anyway, after you banned me.
[17:26] <Agamemnus> So that directly refutes your assertion
[17:26] <ikonia> unless you paid close attention and reported information factually
[17:26] <ikonia> no, you actually got very lucky
[17:26] <ikonia> and you managed to corrupt the database
[17:26] <Agamemnus> No, I didn't.
[17:27] <Agamemnus> Uhuh, sure.
[17:27] <Agamemnus> The database was already corrupted.
[17:27] <ikonia> as long as you are working though, that's great
[17:27] <Agamemnus> That's why I couldn't change root.
[17:27] <ikonia> ha ha, no it's not
[17:27] <ikonia> that had nothing to do with it
[17:27] <Agamemnus> And really, about 5 different people told me 10 different things
[17:27] <ikonia> yes, you did get lots of advice,
[17:27] <Agamemnus> how do you expect me to follow all of their instructions?
[17:27] <Agamemnus> .at the same time?
[17:27] <Agamemnus> while actually breathing?
[17:27] <ikonia> work with someone - people where giving you different information because you where giving different information
[17:28] <ikonia> either way, you are working and happy - so that's great.
[17:28] <Agamemnus> Sure, I was saying different things based on what I was seeing at the time.
[17:28] <ikonia> no, you made assumptions,
[17:28] <ikonia> and guessed at things, reporting them as fact
[17:28] <ikonia> this was a key part of the problem
[17:28] <Agamemnus> that's inaccurate.
[17:28] <ikonia> sure, no problem then
[17:29] <Agamemnus> I did guess things, but only because I needed to test theories of what was wrong with the server.
[17:29] <ikonia> you're theories where random nonsense though as you kept being told - and you kept reporting your guesses as fact.
[17:29] <Agamemnus> If there was no guessing involved, then all that's needed is a magic command that makes everything right
[17:29] <Agamemnus> and no need for admins
[17:29] <ikonia> you really have zero grasp of how to work through a problem
[17:29] <Agamemnus> Right, one person said that you can't change the init file, another person said that you can
[17:29] <ikonia> which is part of the reason I removed you from the channel
[17:30] <ikonia> no, this is your lack of basic understanding coming through
[17:30] <Agamemnus> No, it is your lack of understanding someone who cannot tell you an issue in exact technical terms tat's the problem.
[17:30] <ikonia> Agamemnus: so, lets cut to the chase, you want your ban removed.
[17:30] <Agamemnus> but you're not the only one.
[17:30] <ikonia> Agamemnus: keep in mind, that I help people of all levels every day
[17:31] <ikonia> from total new users, to experienced professionals.
[17:31] <ikonia> at this time I'm not going to remove the ban from ubuntu for 2 core reasons
[17:31] <Agamemnus> Yeah, but I was in a situation where my knowledge of ubuntu did not match the complexity of the task
[17:32] <ikonia> totally yes
[17:32] <Agamemnus> but that does not mean that you should be treating me like an idiot.
[17:32] <ikonia> no-one treated you like an idiot
[17:32] <Agamemnus> right
[17:32] <Agamemnus> How many times was I called a troll?
[17:32] <Agamemnus> 5, 6 times?
[17:32] <Agamemnus> it was a total nuthouse.
[17:32] <Agamemnus> you were part of it.
[17:33] <ikonia> Agamemnus: your zero ability with basic linux functions and your expeirenced task made it come across as a "troll" question as no-one with this lack of understanding could expect to safley do what you want
[17:33] <ikonia> and at no time did I call you a troll.
[17:33] <ikonia> although I can see why others thought that
[17:33] <Agamemnus> you encouraged the others with your abrasive treatment of me.
[17:33] <Agamemnus> again there with your zero ability
[17:33] <ikonia> so the reasons I'm not removing the ban at this time is as follows (so you can deal with it)
[17:33] <Agamemnus> I have plenty of ability
[17:34] <ikonia> 1.) your pig headed response to people helping you - even now when I'm explaining how you don't understand the problem, you still think you are right - thats not going to work in #ubuntu
[17:35] <ikonia> 2.) you joined ##linux to rant about me and the people of #ubuntu - and try to make clever responses, that ruins another channel just because of your attitude, so I'm not going to allow someone who tries to ruin a channel for his own personal reasons to use #ubuntu
[17:35] <Agamemnus> You didn't help me get to the bottom of it.. my trying to debug the issue is viewed in your eyes as a pig-headed response. I'm sorry, but that won't change. You have to modify your own behavior.
[17:35] <Agamemnus> I didn't rant about you, I complimented you for your banning
[17:36] <ikonia> you where trying to be "clever" and complain about it, so again, at least be honest about it
[17:36] <ikonia> so that's where it's at
[17:36] <ikonia> at this time the ban will not be removed.
[17:36] <Agamemnus> and in fact, this isn't the first case of you banning someone because you can't talk to them without going out in an infinte loop.
[17:36] <Agamemnus> you are an abusive moderator.
[17:36] <ikonia> ok, your opinion is noted.
[17:37] <Agamemnus> to top it off, you encourage bad behavior with your own style of verbal abuse.. crowd mentality.
[17:37] <ikonia> if you want to have a think about it, you're welcome to rejoin this channel at a later date, and we can re-review the ban again .
[17:37] <Agamemnus> Well,
[17:37] <Agamemnus> I think you shouldn't be a moderator if you can't handle communication difficulties.
[17:38] <ikonia> ok, thank you, again it's noted
[17:38] <Agamemnus> filed in the circular file, as it were
[17:38] <ikonia> yes, you've said that,
[17:38] <ikonia> I think we are done now
[17:38] <ikonia> if you'd like to /part this channel, and have a think about it
[17:38] <Agamemnus> You told me to think about it. I think you should think about it, too.
[17:38] <Agamemnus> bye
[18:54] <bazhang> king_of_klines, was there something you needed here
[18:55] <king_of_klines> just got back from being called in at work
[18:55] <king_of_klines> forgot why i was even here
[18:55] <king_of_klines> lemme read buffer
[18:55] <king_of_klines> looks like im just here because theres a silly rule against idling
[19:01] <king_of_klines> want me to leave?
[19:01] <Myrtti> that would be adviceable if you don't actually have any reason to be here
[19:01] <bazhang> yep
[19:29] <baphomet1> hello ubuntu-ops.  I was having issues with a sata card that I had tried to use in ubuntu.  I asked a question, albeit I could have asked in a more clear fashion, however the people that were trying to help me seemed to become abrasive rather quickly.  this is incredibly frustrating and I may have said something that I shouldn't have, but I don't understand how the issue is not ubuntu related.  bazhang is adamant that it is not ubuntu related.  at
[19:29] <baphomet1> any rate, I think things could have been handled better by both sides and I would like to ask that the kick/ban be removed
[19:30] <baphomet1> ChogyDan, can verify as will the chat logs
[19:30] <bazhang> it's a quiet not a ban
[19:30] <bazhang> ChogyDan, please dont stay here
[19:31] <baphomet1> why would you ask ChogyDan to leave?
[19:31] <ChogyDan> i was here to support him, but ill go if you wish
[19:31] <bazhang> the channel is logged, so please dont idle here ChogyDan
[19:31] <baphomet1> ok, well I am asking that the quiet be lifted.  I have my answer now.
[19:32] <bazhang> baphomet1, the channel is not for "will my  hardware work with Linux Kernal 2.6 or higher" questions
[19:32] <bazhang> s/kernal/kernel/
[19:32] <baphomet1> bazhang, yes, I get that now.
[19:32] <baphomet1> bazhang, and I went to hardware as you said, and guess what? I can't send to the channel
[19:33] <baphomet1> identifying now
[19:33] <bazhang> baphomet1, you were repeatedly told by numerous helpers that it was not an ubuntu issue
[19:33] <bazhang> so register
[19:33] <bazhang> ask in #freenode how to do so
[19:33] <baphomet1> bazhang, like I said, I have my answer.  why are you taking such a hard line?
[19:34] <bazhang> baphomet1, as you were very abusive to the helpers, cursing and using all caps when asked to stop and continued nonetheless
[19:34] <bazhang> thats not a hard line at all
[19:34] <baphomet1> bazhang, cursed once.  used all caps once.
[19:34] <baphomet1> I see it as a hard line
[19:35] <bazhang> baphomet1, the quiet will not be lifted at this time
[19:35] <baphomet1> you are painting a picture like I was doing this repeatedly.  that is not the case.  especially since I was just trying to understand something and the helpers appeared to be bashing me
[19:35] <baphomet1> and when will it be lifted?
[19:35] <bazhang> there is not a time set. come back in 48 hrs and we can discuss
[19:37] <baphomet1> this is frustrating.  you are accusing me of doing something and painting the picture like it was done repeatedly and it wasn't.  I was just looking for help and was met with bashing.
[19:37] <baphomet1> is this the picture you want to paint for the open source community?
[19:38] <bazhang> see you in 48 hrs baphomet1
[19:38] <baphomet1> are there no other ops around.  I believe that bazhang is not unbiased in this discussion.
[19:39] <ikonia> baphomet1: hi
[19:39] <baphomet1> hello ikonia
[19:39] <ikonia> you called people "cunts" - people don't need to see that
[19:39] <baphomet1> ikonia, and I apologized for that.  I realize that was wrong.
[19:39] <ikonia> yes, I can appreciate that.
[19:39] <ikonia> baphomet1: are you aware of the rules of the channel.
[19:39] <baphomet1> and I have my answer about what I need to do.
[19:39] <baphomet1> ikonia, no.
[19:39] <ikonia> ok, so reading them would be a good start
[19:40] <ikonia> !rules > baphomet1
[19:40] <ikonia> !guidelines > baphomet1
[19:40] <ikonia> !coc > baphomet1
[19:40] <ikonia> baphomet1: the user ubottu should have just sent you 3 links,
[19:40] <baphomet1> checking htem
[19:40] <baphomet1> *them
[19:41] <ikonia> ok, so what I suggest you do, is read them in your leasure, then take some time, at least a few hours to absorb them and think about how you interact with people in Ubuntu
[19:41] <LjL> baphomet1, please also keep in mind that if you disagree with an operator's decision and want their actions appealed, you can see /msg ubottu !appeals to communicate with Ubuntu's IRC governing body
[19:41] <baphomet1> I would like to ask the quiet be lifted.  I  believe that the channel is a valuable source of information.  I have my answer and I am in the hardware channel
[19:41] <baphomet1> so the quiet is not going to be lifted
[19:41] <baphomet1> ?
[19:42] <ikonia> baphomet1: I'm happy to lift the quiet
[19:42] <ikonia> just not straight away
[19:42] <ikonia> baphomet1: I think you need to fully absorb the guidlines.
[19:42] <baphomet1> ikonia, I am reading them now.
[19:42] <ikonia> baphomet1: yes, and I said take a few hours to absorb them, and think about how you are going to interact with people in the Ubuntu channels going forward
[19:43] <baphomet1> ok.
[19:43] <baphomet1> be back in a few hours
[19:43] <ikonia> ok, so /part this channel, have a good read, think about how you behaved and how you are going to behave, and come back
[19:44] <ikonia> anything you're unclear on / unsure on, just ask
[19:45] <ikonia> baphomet1: acceptable ?
 Are any officials here?
[20:09] <bazhang> perhaps he won a tshirt
[20:15] <ikonia> johnjohn101: hi
[20:15] <johnjohn101> just wanted to see electron here... hee hee
[20:16] <ikonia> ok, johnjohn101 this isn't a "show" channel, it's for real issues to be helped with
[20:16] <ikonia> johnjohn101: so if you don't need anything could you please /part
[20:16] <johnjohn101> leaving
[21:19] <Electron> so
[21:20] <ikonia> hello
[21:20] <Electron> j'ai pas le temps
[21:20] <ikonia> Electron: can you please speak in English
[21:20] <Electron> !allume une cigarette
[21:20] <ikonia> Electron: we know you can respond in english, please speak in English
[21:22] <ikonia> Electron: can you please respond
[21:22] <Electron> ask
[21:22] <ikonia> Electron: please disable your bot plugin
[21:22] <ikonia> Electron: can you please confirm
[21:22] <Electron> me too
[22:26] <baphomet1> ikonia, I am back
[22:27] <baphomet1> are you there?
[22:28] <AlanBell> something we can help you with baphomet1?
[22:30] <baphomet1> AlanBell, I was quieted/muted.  ikonia told me to read the rules and come back in a few hours.  I have and I am back asking for the quite/mute to be lifted.
[22:32] <AlanBell> ok baphomet1, so you have been quieted in #ubuntu for some hours now, have you been following the conversations there?
[22:32] <baphomet1> AlanBell, I did for a bit, but then I had to go.
[22:35] <AlanBell> so you get the idea of what a normal good tempered constructive support conversation looks like
[22:35] <baphomet1> yes
[22:36] <AlanBell> I have removed the quiet
[22:36] <baphomet1> thank you
[22:38] <AlanBell> baphomet1: can you part from this channel now please, we like to discuss matters with people one at a time