[07:52] <AlanBell> morning all
[07:55] <moodoo> morning AlanBell :)
[08:07] <DJones> Morning
[08:08] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:13] <mungbean> popey: nice, i will look at that. android sync is a good feature i miss that rainy would give me again though with tomdroid (hopefully)
[08:18] <mungbean> y'all been reading this one today? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security
[08:19] <AlanBell> NSA have always been into that kinda thing
[08:20] <AlanBell> they had key escrow and differential workfactor stuff when it was export restricted
[08:20] <AlanBell> so everyone else had 64bits to crack, but the NSA had a 24bit headstart
[08:21] <mungbean> howver it is not sufficient to say, yay AES is secure, if it gets backdoored. how confident are we of truecrypt?
[08:27] <AlanBell> "Differential Workfactor Cryptography" is the thing to look up, it isn't a big secret
[08:27] <dwatkins> I'm more concerned that the servers themselves are compromised, and how the various security organisations send my data to themselves.
[08:27] <dwatkins> If they can get their hooks into hotmail etc. then someone else can, or someone else can snoop their own traffic.
[08:27] <AlanBell> and hasn't really been done since the export restrictions got lifted
[08:27] <mungbean> i didn't realise that the man in a bag was related to this http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/08/codebreaker-death/
[08:27] <DJones> This is so true https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/9309_10151637981802602_517729414_n.jpg
[08:28] <dwatkins> AlanBell: the first hit on Google for that phrase is blocked by my employer's firewall ;)
[09:17] <directhex> damnit. when did i buy minecraft?
[09:24] <bigcalm> directhex: before it was full price is my guess
[09:25] <bigcalm> I bought it in beta for €10 I think
[09:25] <bigcalm> Or was it still alpha at that price?
[09:25] <directhex> i think 2010 or 2011
[09:25] <mungbean> i've still never played it
[09:25] <directhex> either way, mojang support won't help me without the original purchase confirmation transaction number
[09:26] <bigcalm> Och, what have you done?
[09:27] <directhex> bigcalm, they're replacing usernames with email addresses, but if the migration errors out, you're basically stuffed
[09:28] <mungbean> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/currys-job-applicants-forced-dance-off-2254279
[09:28] <bigcalm> directhex: :O
[09:28] <bigcalm> So that there can be more than one with the same screen name?
[09:29] <directhex> bigcalm, so you have one account for all your mojang games. i dunno.
[09:29] <directhex> https://account.mojang.com/migrate
[09:30] <bigcalm> They make other games?
[09:30] <bigcalm> Humm
[09:32] <moodoo> mungbean: they are just idiots.
[09:34] <directhex> aha, I made it work, by clicking "import" after logging in with my mojang account, rather than "Migrate" separately
[09:34] <mungbean> i'm amazed people complied with the dancing. this is the state of broken britain
[09:34] <directhex> and to answer the question, "Since 30 January, 2011" is the age of the account :D
[09:35] <directhex> mungbean, high unemployment, people desperate for jobs
[09:36] <mungbean> but really, if you have a moment to consider it, if they ask you to do a dance for the interview, the work culture is gonna make you quit the next day anyway
[09:36] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Friday, and happy Fight Procrastination Day! :-D
[09:37] <mungbean> "He said the dance had been part of team building exercises, although these were not part of its official recruitment process which would normally include a more formal interview.
[09:37] <diddledan> I procrastinate over whether to fight procrastination
[09:37] <bigcalm> I've just migrated my account: 10 November, 2010
[09:40] <DJones> mungbean: There was an interview with the bloke on radio 4 yesterday, he said he'd sent out about 200 applications & only got 7 replies so was really pleased with getting one from currys, he was supposed to have 5 minutes to talk about his interests so he went out and printed photo's that he takes through a telescope of night sky/astronimical things, and then was just asked to dance
[09:41] <Laney> that's that
[09:41] <mungbean> surely you would have the balls to say "i'm sorry, thats not on the job description"
[09:41] <directhex> mungbean, principles are great! note: you will starve without income
[09:42] <mungbean> sure, but would you survive in a job where they humiliate you before you even get the role?
[09:42] <DJones> I think in the economic climate, people are desperate, and wouldn't do something that might stop them getting a job
[09:42] <directhex> to be picky you need options to pick from
[09:42] <DJones> +1
[09:43] <DJones> From the sound of it 200 applications with virtually no response doesn't give you many options
[09:43] <mungbean> sums up my opinion of the many jerks i've met in dixons
[09:43] <mungbean> i've only been insulted by staff in dixons/pcw and richer sounds.
[09:44]  * Laney snuggles richer sounds
[09:44] <dwatkins> I have a friend used to work for Dixon's support line, he hated it, couldn't wait to get out and do a comp-sci degree.
[09:45] <directhex> RS have very high customer satisfaction
[09:46] <mungbean> i told him i would never return to the store
[09:53]  * bigcalm can has TV stick!
[09:56] <bigcalm> The printed manual is tiny with tiny print :D
[09:56] <bigcalm> Looks like it's been written in Engrish, most amusing :)
[10:00] <popey> directhex: how do you find out when you bought minecraft?
[10:01] <bigcalm> popey: migrate your account and they then tell you
[10:01] <popey> oh, my email
[10:01] <popey> 27/01/2011
[10:02] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:05] <moodoo> dwatkins: I worked for dixons pc service call for 5 years
[10:05] <Laney> the tech guys?
[10:06] <moodoo> Laney: no this was before then, I started at the beginning when it was pc plus, then again that was about 15/20 years ago lol
[10:06] <Laney> heh
[10:07] <davmor2> moodoo: man you're old :D  Morning mucka :)
[10:07] <moodoo> davmor2: yeah i know :p morning chap
[10:08] <davmor2> moodoo: go pick on czajkowski it makes you feel younger knowing you can still dodge flying objects :D
[10:08] <Laney> I know someone who worked at TTG on lenton lane
[10:08] <Laney> they shut that office and now he works for them from home
[10:09] <Laney> not sure I could stomach walking people through windows system restore all day every day
[10:09] <mungbean> windows give sme physical pain
[10:09] <moodoo> davmor2: i would never do such a thing, i respect czajkowski :p
[10:10] <moodoo> mungbean: no it doesn't :p
[10:10] <mungbean> huh?
[10:10] <davmor2> moodoo: did your nose just break your monitor?
[10:10] <czajkowski> bah need to figure out which cable to use to get my presnetion to appear on the big screen an everything is apple :(
[10:10] <moodoo> davmor2: shush
[10:10] <czajkowski> so not a good start to the day
[10:10] <mungbean> using MS windows gives me a painful know in my stomach
[10:10]  * czajkowski sends davmor2 and moodoo to the naughty step, not today! 
[10:11] <mungbean> s/know/knot
[10:11] <moodoo> czajkowski: I'm behaving today it's that davmor2 that's causing all the issues
[10:11] <davmor2> moodoo: definitely through the screen now ;)
[10:11] <czajkowski> I've a display port but cannot seem to fugure out which one that mirrrors up to
[10:13] <davmor2> czajkowski: does it not have a hdmi lead?
[10:13] <czajkowski> I've a HDMi convertor
[10:15] <davmor2> czajkowski: does the projectory type thing have a hdmi lead, if so plug in the converter and then plug the lead into the converter done
[10:16] <czajkowski> yeah just It refuses to show up on the connection
[10:30] <czajkowski> Anyone any idea how to make an imported .pdf into google doc go into presentation mode?
[10:31]  * bigcalm returns from testing the android tv stick - works really well
[10:33] <bigcalm> Might consider EoP though. Streaming videos with MediaHousePro from mediatomb can be a little jerky. Time will tell
[10:33] <bigcalm> I really need to get a magic controller though
[10:33] <popey> czajkowski: can you not just do it locally, not via gdoc?
[10:34] <bigcalm> popey: what's the remote you recommend?
[10:34] <popey> F10 iirc
[10:34] <czajkowski> popey: the issue is this:  I cannot get my laptop to connect to the big TV for some godly reason.  so I thought plan B, convert to .pdf and upload to google doc so I could present it that way
[10:34] <popey> mele f10
[10:34]  * bigcalm googles
[10:34] <bigcalm> Ta
[10:34] <popey> czajkowski: make it a pdf, put on a usb stick or email to co-worker, use their laptop
[10:34] <AlanBell> czajkowski: can you convert to ppt and upload, then gdocs knows it is a presentation
[10:35] <popey> or that
[10:35] <czajkowski> yup tried that and google docs wont read it :(
[10:36] <czajkowski> I'm gonna have w weekend of filing bugs on LO
[10:36] <czajkowski> now have to hear about if only I'd had a mac discussion
[10:37] <czajkowski> may i fact slap someone :(
[10:37] <popey> czajkowski: a ppt, not an odt?
[10:37] <davmor2> czajkowski: did you try that or did you just save it as LO default odp?  you need to save it as PPT
[10:37] <popey> s/odt/odp/
[10:37] <popey> I recall you complained it wouldn't recognise odp, but it should work with ppt
[10:37] <czajkowski> I've one saved as a ODP which google doc doesnt support so I saved it as a .ppt and that uploads but the image cannot be read
[10:38] <davmor2> czajkowski: try different ages on PPT too
[10:38] <czajkowski> popey: mind if I send you it to see if it's just me being a bit you knw... special :)
[10:38] <bigcalm> Oh my goodness. The remote has speaker and mic - can be used with Skype!
[10:38]  * bigcalm giggles to himself
[10:38] <bigcalm> Think I'm going to have to buy one
[10:38] <popey> yeah, use a windows 95 era ppt
[10:39] <popey> bigcalm: the mele f10?
[10:39] <MartijnVdS> or pptx?
[10:39] <bigcalm> popey: yes
[10:39] <popey> nice
[10:39] <czajkowski> ahhh
[10:39] <czajkowski> a .pptx works to upload
[10:40] <czajkowski> thank you
[10:40] <MartijnVdS> czajkowski: np :)
[10:41] <davmor2> czajkowski: now does it display in gdocs in presentation mode :D
[10:41] <czajkowski> No but I can zoom in and fill up the screen
[10:42] <czajkowski> I just need to resolve the connection issue
[10:42] <czajkowski> so maybe plan C is best
[10:42] <czajkowski> mail co worker in the meeting and present from there
[10:42] <MartijnVdS> czajkowski: google docs has a "convert to gdocs" mode
[10:42] <czajkowski> and then next week present via Vidyo should be easier
[10:42] <czajkowski> MartijnVdS: WHERE>.................
[10:42] <MartijnVdS> czajkowski: in the upload dialog
[10:43] <MartijnVdS> czajkowski: the one that pops up while uploading
[10:43] <MartijnVdS> czajkowski: also, "gear" icon (top right) -> upload settings -> convert to Google Docs
[10:43] <czajkowski> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:43] <czajkowski> that setting wWAS OFF!
[10:44] <MartijnVdS> you can convert after the fact as well, but I don't know how.. let me have a look at my account
[10:45]  * davmor2 points czajkowski at this book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Google-Apps-Dummies-Ryan-Teeter/dp/0470189584   and runs for the hills
[10:46] <czajkowski> wow
[10:46] <czajkowski> that works
[10:46] <czajkowski> yay
[10:47] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: what was that link in twitter meant to be it got cute short
[10:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> davmor2: This one? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1717674777/gerry-andersons-gemini-force-one
[10:48] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: that's the one thanks
[10:49] <bigcalm> Standard delivery 7- 23 days
[10:49]  * bigcalm grumbles at another HK import
[10:49] <bigcalm> popey: do you know where your friend got his mele f10 from?
[10:50] <popey> ebay i think
[10:50] <popey> ask him
[10:50] <bigcalm> Who he?
[10:50] <popey> @8none1
[10:50] <bigcalm> Oh, on twitter?
[10:50] <popey> yeah
[10:50] <bigcalm> Ta
[10:51] <popey> ask if he still recommends it
[10:51] <bigcalm> Oh, Will Coke
[10:51] <popey> close
[10:51] <bigcalm> +o
[10:51] <popey> Yes
[10:51] <bigcalm> :P
[10:51] <popey> Will O'Coke
[10:51] <bigcalm> Heh
[10:51] <bigcalm> Cokoe
[11:40] <mungbean> http://superuser.com/questions/164162/is-truecrypt-truly-safe
[12:18] <DJones> Shock, Horror, El Reg is positive review scandal http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/06/ubuntu_13_10_beta_1_review/?page=1
[12:18] <DJones> s/is/in/
[12:18] <MartijnVdS> DJones: I'm calling it: they were paid off.
[12:19] <DJones> :)
[12:20] <DJones> Must admit, 1st beta release wasn't something that I'd realised was happening today
[12:21] <directhex> does mir still echo every VT into your graphical display, so logging on in VT1 will paste your credentials into your irc window if it had focus in VT7?
[12:21] <diddledan> DJones: didn't it happen yesterday though?
[12:21] <DJones> diddledan: Could have done, I've not been paying attention
[12:21] <diddledan> directhex: that sounds like a cool bug
[12:22] <directhex> diddledan, AKA the "t-mobile g1" bug
[12:22] <dwatkins> I was also thinking of early Android
[12:22] <directhex> diddledan, where everything you typed on the first android phone was echoed into a root terminal too
[12:22] <dwatkins> type "reboot" and hit return whilst writing a text message, the phone reboots
[12:23] <diddledan> oops
[12:23] <diddledan> that probably had a purpose at some point for being able to enter commands when you didn't have a console
[12:23] <dwatkins> yeah, testing, I assume
[12:24] <diddledan> they just forgot to disable it :-)
[12:24] <diddledan> it's not a bug it's a feature in that case
[12:28] <dwatkins> indeed, diddledan
[12:30]  * bigcalm flops back into the office
[12:30]  * mungbean just ate a massive scoth egg
[12:30] <bigcalm> Want to spend the rest of the day playing with my Android on a stick
[12:30] <mungbean> 411 calories alone
[12:30] <dwatkins> bigcalm: fun times?
[12:30] <bigcalm> Listening to the latest Goldfrapp album with Spotify via my TV and thus hi-fi is wonderful :)
[12:31] <DJones> 411 calories? What was it, and Ostrich egg wrapped in 1/2 a pig
[12:31] <bigcalm> dwatkins: indeed so, I can really recommend having Android on a stick to make an HD TV a Smart HD TV :D
[12:31]  * mgdm keeps meaning to make his Joggler run Android
[12:31] <mgdm> keep forgetting
[12:31] <mungbean> i needed to supplmenet my pasta which had no met. i have gut ache now
[12:31] <bigcalm> mgdm: dog slow and painful. But amusing
[12:32] <dwatkins> bigcalm: sounds like fun, might give it a go (I have a Raspberry Pi running XBMC, so I use that for watching tV a lot)
[12:32] <dwatkins> mungbean: try not eating carbs for a couple months ;)
[12:34] <mungbean> dwatkins: i would disappear
[12:34]  * TheOpenSourcerer is delighted it is Friday. Means Pub later :-D Lots of calories in Beer. Good calories I'm sure.
[12:34] <mungbean> cannot drink beer anymore :(
[12:34] <mungbean> tummy don't like it
[12:37]  * bigcalm is excited for the trip down south to the RAT :D
[12:38] <dwatkins> mungbean: I was hesitant at first, I've found I don't get that mid-afternoon urge to nap anymore ;)
[12:38] <mgdm> dwatkins: I keep intending to do that, then failing
[12:38] <dwatkins> mgdm: nap, or give up carbs...?
[12:39] <mgdm> dwatkins: the latter :-)
[12:40] <bigcalm> :D
[12:40] <bigcalm> If I had the time, I would nap
[12:40] <bigcalm> Have been known to nap at lunch time
[12:41] <davmor2> bigcalm: you mean you wake up at some point?
[12:41] <dwatkins> I used to work with someone who took a nap every lunchtime.
[12:45] <directhex> mmm a nap sounds lovely
[12:47] <dwatkins> I had a sandwich for lunch, so I do feel like napping today, normally I just have chicken salad and I'm fine.
[12:48] <mungbean> napping is healthy
[12:48] <MartijnVdS> nappies are healthy?
[12:48] <diddledan> problem is with me a nap usually lasts a full 4 hours
[12:51] <MartijnVdS> sleep more during the night
[12:51] <diddledan> I sleep over 8 hours at night as it is
[12:52] <diddledan> if left to my own devices I'd sleep upwards of 12 hours a day
[12:52] <diddledan> thank god for alarms
[12:52] <MartijnVdS> You're a strange person :P
[12:52] <diddledan> I'm on medication :-D
[12:53] <diddledan> probably to combat the strangeness :-p
[12:53] <DJones> 12 Hours sleep, that would be a wonder to have, weekdays my alarm is set for 7am just in case, normally I wake at 6am and toss & turn for a while before getting up & waking the dog up for an early morning walk
[12:54] <MartijnVdS> I couldn't.
[12:54] <diddledan> yeah, my alarm goes off at 7 too
[12:54] <MartijnVdS> If I go to bed before 22:00, I wake up at 6
[12:54] <TheOpenSourcerer> My alarm is set for 06:15am
[12:54] <MartijnVdS> after tossing & turning until 22:00
[12:54] <mungbean> alarm is set for 11.30pm
[12:54] <MartijnVdS> if I go to bed after 22:00, I wake up at 6
[12:54] <dwatkins> My alarm goes off at 6:30, I get up sometime between then and 7am, have bacon and eggs then cycle to work. If I leave later than 7:30, I have issues with the pedestrian and dog traffic.
[12:56] <DJones> I need an unpaid intern for envelope stuffing
[12:59] <diddledan> I need to outsource my job to china
[12:59] <diddledan> (and pocket the profit)
[13:08] <dwatkins> yes, diddledan, because no-one *ever* got accused of defrauding their employer for doing that...
[13:09] <diddledan> it was reading about accusations that got me thinking it would be a good idea :-p
[13:09] <dwatkins> I can't believe the bloke that did it got away with it for so long.
[13:21] <andylockran> howdy all
[13:22] <mungbean> Bruce Schneier • September 5, 2013 4:35 PM
[13:22] <mungbean> "Could the NSA be intercepting downloads of open-source encryption software and silently replacing these with their own versions?"
[13:22] <mungbean> Yes, I believe so.
[13:23] <andylockran> md5sum for the win
[13:23] <andylockran> but I guess they've probably got that hacked too
[13:23] <mungbean> conspiracy guys are gonna need bigger hats
[13:23] <andylockran> sales of tin foil up 400%
[13:24] <DJones> mungbean: tinfoil onesies :)
[13:24] <mungbean> a bit scratchie
[13:31] <Monotoko> say I've narrowed down a search in MySQL to get me a club officer... with three AND's in my WHERE (club id, year and clubofficerid)
[13:32] <Monotoko> how would I get it to bring back two club officers (clubofficerid 1 and 2) without doing another query?
[13:32] <mgdm> that's nowhere near enough information
[13:32] <mgdm> we'd need to know your table structures and the existing query
[13:32] <mgdm> and what's wrong with a second query for WHERE id IN (1, 2)?
[13:35] <Monotoko> mgdm: hang on I will pastebin my query, there's a few tables involved here
[13:35] <Monotoko> mgdm: IN sounds like the one I was missing: http://pastebin.com/bCGHJWqR
[13:36] <Monotoko> at the moment that's bringing me back one email address for the secretary, I want it to bring me back an email address for the secretary and the president
[13:37] <Monotoko> yeah IN was the one
[13:37] <Monotoko> thank you
[13:53] <DJones> Dammed devices, I never know which way to turn when something goes 'ding' in the office, is it an email, a text, gtalk, and which device made the bloody noise, sometimes its every device
[13:53] <mungbean> i hate the whistle notification that everyone on the train thinks its cool to have
[13:54] <mungbean> although yesterday someone had a ringtone like a rape alarm...but it was just a phone call
[13:56] <DJones> Driving home the other night after talking about the MS/Nokia deal, they said they were going to test how annoying the Nokia ringtone was by playing it continuously until 100 people had emailed in to say stop, it went on for about a minute before they either got the 100 emails or got fed up themselves
[13:57] <DJones> (On the radio)
[13:57] <popey> that's the dumbest radio stunt ever
[13:57] <popey> surely people will just change the channel
[13:58] <mungbean> which station?
[13:58] <mungbean> its precisely the reason i don't even listen to radio
[13:58] <DJones> Radio 4
[13:58] <mungbean> and the fact that somebody stole my aerial
[13:59] <diddledan> aerial theft?!
[13:59] <mungbean> wow i thought it would be capitalheartcheese fm
[13:59] <diddledan> who would want to steal a wire?
[13:59] <mungbean> car aerial
[13:59] <mungbean> it all started in 1976 when someones aerial broke, so he stole his neighbours
[13:59] <diddledan> use a wire coat hanger
[13:59] <dwatkins> I had a little figure (Gir from Invader Zim) on my aerial, some git stole him :(
[13:59] <DJones> Would a car radio without an ariel be a "wireless".... I know, its bad
[14:00] <mungbean> fast forward to 2013 and i am going to break the chain by not buying or stealing one
[14:00] <mungbean> its  aroof aerial , the thick platic coated kind
[14:00] <mungbean> you can''t just plop a wire into a slot anymore
[14:00] <diddledan> that's like not forwarding on a chain letter^H^H^H^H^H^Hemail
[14:00] <diddledan> you're gonna die a horrible death now because of it
[14:01] <diddledan> or "your crush" is going to do the opposite of the wish you made when you read the countdown from 10 to 1 in textual form
[14:01] <mungbean> my wife gets annoyed because i can sort of hear radio5 someotimes in good conditions, so if i'm desperate for the arsenal score, i will turn it on and brrrrfuzzzzzzzzzarsenal7...ijiojiojeroije
[14:02] <dwatkins> mungbean: for a moment I thought you meant you could hear Radio 5 without the need for a radio...
[14:02] <diddledan> ditto
[14:02] <mungbean> lolz
[14:03] <dwatkins> it's not unheard-of
[14:03] <mungbean> http://i.imgur.com/StabbzB.jpg
[14:03] <mungbean> heheh
[14:11] <mungbean> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1lucdy/did_linus_torvalds_backdoor_linux_random_number/
[14:13] <diddledan> of course he did
[14:17] <DJones> Erk, Listening to a Doctor Who play, first episode is called "Scorpius" and I was wondering where Blake & Tarrent were..Confused.com
[14:31] <bigcalm> That went over my head
[14:32] <DJones> Blakes 7 reference
[14:33] <bigcalm> Righto
[14:33] <bigcalm> Blake 7 was before my time, but I wonder about checking it out
[14:34] <DJones> You should do before Microsoft ruin it
[14:34] <DJones> With their rumoured remake
[14:34] <bigcalm> o.O
[14:34] <diddledan> microsoft doing telly?!
[14:35] <DJones> Rumoured anyway http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23712001 Also denied
[14:45] <bigcalm> "Gamers will have to pay to take advantage of some features of the Xbox One"
[14:46] <bigcalm> I'm surprised that such a statement needs to be made
[14:46] <mungbean> like the power button?
[14:46] <bigcalm> Hehe
[14:46] <mungbean> i hate stealth costs more than anything
[14:49] <BigRedS> bigcalm: "What? I need to buy the games as well?!"
[14:50] <davmor2> mungbean: no this is microsoft not app,  you get the power button for free, but breathing during game play costs per breath
[14:50] <davmor2> s/app/apple
[14:50] <mungbean> after 300 power cycles then RROD
[14:52] <Laney> wow this is an extreme dead leg
[14:53] <Laney> my foot is like set custard
[14:53] <mungbean> mmm custard
[14:53] <davmor2> Laney: it's in a coffin on a trampoline trying to drag the rest of you in ?
[14:53] <Laney> now it's recovered a bit
[14:54] <Laney> at the extreme pain whenever it's moved stage
[15:09] <mungbean> mmm cookies
[15:09] <mungbean> 50p for 5 big ones in sainsbury
[15:10] <diddledan> WOW
[15:10] <diddledan> I need cookies now!
[15:10] <mungbean> they put them near the self serve tills for the weak willed
[15:10] <mungbean> and the hungry
[15:11] <diddledan> I'm both
[15:11] <davmor2> mungbean: what were you at the time then?
[15:11] <mungbean> i expected a time that i would be hungry. i'm rarely weak willed
[15:12] <mungbean> except on reddit lately i appear to be getting involved with trolls and wrong people
[15:12] <davmor2> mungbean: unless it's cookies it seems :D
[15:12] <mungbean> i should just downvote and move on
[15:14] <davmor2> mungbean: do what I do, don't look at reddit :D
[15:14] <diddledan> I've never even been tempted to regularly read reddit
[15:15] <mungbean> i entered a cycle of behaviour since having the baby
[15:15] <mungbean> feeding the sprog in the dark at 11.30pm requires stimulation so you don't fall asleep
[15:15] <mungbean> after reading facebook , you need fresh stuff
[15:15] <mungbean> reddit is what you read when all your other stuff dries up
[15:16] <mungbean> and irc is asleep
[15:16] <mungbean> /r/parenting is the worst....wHYY!?!?
[15:16] <davmor2> mungbean: Just read wikipeadia start at A ;)
[15:17] <mungbean> aardvark...yawn...snoooze...woops baby
[15:32] <dwatkins> clearly no-one reads Slashdot anymore
[15:33] <bigcalm> Not for a very long time in my case :)
[15:33] <funkyHat> And why would they? ;P
[15:38] <Seeker`> funkyHat: to recap on last weeks news
[15:38] <dwatkins> I hadn't opened slashdot in about 6 months until yesterday.
[15:41] <bigcalm> Anybody remember the f key overlay cards that were available for the BBC Micro  for different programmes? I'm wondering if there is a template out there for creating ones own overlay for different keyboards
[15:44] <popey> bah
[15:45] <popey> dug out desktop, booted it up, whining like a whatsit
[15:45] <popey> cpu fan
[15:45] <diddledan> I do that
[15:46] <diddledan> I'm a whiney git
[15:46] <diddledan> :-p
[16:05] <TheOpenSourcerer> Yay! Nearly beer oclock!
[16:54] <andylockran> exit
[16:54] <andylockran> oops
[16:54] <andylockran> :)
[16:54] <andylockran> bye all - have a good weekend
[16:55] <MartijnVdS> \o
[16:59] <bigcalm> :O how is it 6pm?
[16:59] <bigcalm> Almost
[17:00] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: gravity well, curved space-time, etc.
[17:00] <bigcalm> There we go
[17:00]  * bigcalm grumbles
[17:09] <popey> hmm, hardware chaps, the fan in my desktop is busted, and i need a replacement pronto
[17:10] <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/E97378-001-INTEL-ALUMINUM-HEATSINK-WITH/dp/B00BV1CRR6
[17:10] <popey> its one of them
[17:10] <MartijnVdS> popey: does it have to be one of them? as it's a desktop, wouldn't a "normal" CPU/case fan work?
[17:11] <popey> no idea
[17:11] <popey> i dont do hardware
[17:11] <popey> looks like it's Lga1155? thats the chip form factor right?
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> popey: just googled the type number on google image
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> ah yes
[17:11] <popey> i see some on amazon i can get delivery tomorrow via prime
[17:11] <popey> which will do
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> popey: I'm liking my replacement for that.. let me find it again
[17:11] <popey> ta
[17:11] <popey> quiet would be nice
[17:12] <popey> cheap also good ☻
[17:12] <MartijnVdS> popey: I have http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/cooling/cpu-liquid-cooler/seidon-120m.html
[17:12] <MartijnVdS> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Coolermaster-Seidon-120M-Watercooling-Kit/dp/B00AOEWCWG
[17:12] <MartijnVdS> that's going to be *quiet*
[17:13] <popey> i had one of them and it didnt fit the case
[17:13] <MartijnVdS> hmm
[17:14] <MartijnVdS> popey: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-AK-CC7108EP01-Heatsink-Noise-Socket/dp/B008OHNJN6/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1378487619&sr=1-2&keywords=1155+fan  ?
[17:14] <popey> something like that year
[17:14] <popey> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-AK-CC7117EP01-Performance-LGA1156-LGA1155/dp/B005J2IS3U/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1378487459&sr=1-1&keywords=Lga1155+fan
[17:14] <popey> gets good reviews
[17:14] <MartijnVdS> it looks like a bee or a wasp ;)
[17:15] <popey> heh
[17:15] <MartijnVdS> It looks OK, I don't know if it comes with the paste
[17:15] <diddledan> I would hope it does
[17:15] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: it really depends these days
[17:15] <diddledan> really?
[17:15] <diddledan> dang
[17:16] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: not including it makes the package cheaper
[17:17] <popey> "However the K32 Akasa cooler is a bargain and keeps temps cool, comes with heat paste applied ready."
[17:18] <popey> looks good enough
[17:18] <MartijnVdS> (Y)
[17:19] <popey> ta
[17:20] <popey> Boom, ordered
[17:21]  * MartijnVdS ordered a new radio for the car earlier
[17:21] <MartijnVdS> display on current one is dead
[17:21] <MartijnVdS> which makes it a bit hard-ish to use
[17:21] <popey> ooh good call
[17:22] <MartijnVdS> I ordered this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/AEG-4029-Autoradio-Watt-AUX-IN/dp/B00A7QGDB2 (hm, amazon.de has it for €50 less)
[17:38] <brobostigon> good evening everyone,
[17:38] <MartijnVdS> hi brobostigon
[17:40] <brobostigon> hi MartijnVdS
[19:01]  * MartijnVdS listens some more Andy Cato
[19:36] <diddledan> I need takeaway
[20:21] <MartijnVdS> omg.. this exists: http://www.glastonbridge.co.uk/flash/q.php?i=YES+IT+REALLY+EXISTS
[20:22] <popey> wut
[20:23] <MartijnVdS> popey: web-based QI buzzer :)
[20:23] <popey> handy
[20:23] <MartijnVdS> popey: if someone's obviously wrong, yes
[20:23] <popey> excellent
[20:24] <MartijnVdS> ah, it has an accompanying form: http://www.glastonbridge.co.uk/flash/q2.html
[21:46] <popey> \o/ Your Amazon.co.uk order of "Akasa AK-CC7117EP01 K32..." has been dispatched
[21:47] <popey> Estimated delivery date: Monday, September 09, 2013
[21:47] <popey> bastards
[21:50] <popey> oh, thats the other thing I ordered
[21:58] <hamitron> oh geez, government run organisations are so poorly organised... they've lost all copies of my qualifications and certificates twice now :/
[21:59] <hamitron> and licenses
[22:02] <diddledan> oops
[22:11] <directhex> hamitron, non-govt organizations are no better
[22:12] <hamitron> suppose that can be the case, just not experienced larger places of work much