[08:17] mzanetti, hey, where does the Launcher take the list of apps it has permanently on it ("favorites" !?). [08:17] and, more importantly, how [08:17] dandrader: loads defaults from dconf, but stores its own config in AccountsService [08:18] mzanetti, AccountsService!? [08:19] dandrader: yeah. the launcher needs to show the icons already on the greeter. we can't access dconf from there [08:19] dandrader: why do you ask? need to do something similar? [08:20] mzanetti, I was trying out my unity-mir branch yesterday. and the launcher was empty [08:20] and, also, when I run an app its icon appear in the launcher (with the arrow/triangle and everything) [08:20] but when I closed the app its icon remained in the launcher [08:21] mzanetti, so I wanna try out unity8-SF again to check how it behaves there [08:21] and if it's a bug in the unity-mir code [08:21] dandrader: I had a change in the config format in accountssettings. if you flashed an image with the old format but then rust run a branch with the new format things will break [08:22] dandrader: no. I don't think its a bug in unity-mir. Please wait for the next image release and test on top of that [08:22] mzanetti, hmmm... should a apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade solve that? [08:22] dandrader: might work, yes. [08:22] dandrader: also, clear your accountsservice launcher settings. [08:22] one moment, I'll search the command [08:23] dandrader: btw... it's freakin 3am... what are you doing here? [08:23] I'm totally clueless about accountsservice... [08:23] mzanetti, it's 5am actually. I'll go climbing in the afternoon :) [08:24] dandrader: gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.Accounts --object-path /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 --method org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Set com.canonical.unity.AccountsService launcher-items "<[{'defaults' : }]>" [08:25] dandrader: call this on the phone and accountssettings will be reset [08:26] mzanetti, ok, thanks [08:40] greyback: oh how I love that document you just shared [08:40] greyback: not sure if I still do when I start working through it :D [08:40] mzanetti: lol yeah [08:41] always good doing this on a Friday [08:42] haha [08:50] mzanetti, yeah, the same happens with unity8 trunk: when you close an app (eg. calculator) its icon remains in the launcher. [08:51] greyback, so, a it's bug in launcher, afterall :) ^ [08:51] dandrader: no... that's intentional [08:51] dandrader: it's called "recent apps" :) [08:51] dandrader: the last 5 used apps stay there [08:51] not a bug, a feature :D [08:52] (tm) [08:54] mzanetti, is there an upper limit for the number of apps icons in launcher? [08:55] dandrader: no, no upper limit for the total number, but recent apps are limited to 5 [08:55] ok [08:55] dandrader: so if you start 6 apps not yet in the launcher, one will be thrown away [08:55] dandrader: unless you long-tapped it and selected "Pin to launcher" [08:56] right [08:56] dandrader: or moved it around via drag'n'drop. That will pin it too [09:12] * greyback needs better internet, moving to office. back in ±40 [09:44] mzanetti, can you re-look at the hide-gicons branch once you have a sec? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [09:53] mhr3: sure [09:58] mhr3: what I meant with the copyright header is that saviq wants to have the name at the end of the text, not on top of it. [09:59] mhr3: you don't have to add it, but if you do, you should add it at the end [09:59] oh... [09:59] mhr3: otherwise looks good.... mind fixing this? [10:00] mzanetti, just to make sure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6069772/ ok? [10:01] mhr3: yep [10:02] pushed [10:04] mhr3: approved. however, jenkins is broken again :/ [10:05] mail says it works now [10:05] well... mail from yesterday === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [10:11] greyback, can I top approve https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtubuntu/using-new-api/+merge/184070 ? [10:12] greyback, ah, there are those failing unity8 tests still, right? [10:13] dandrader: yep, but they fail due to the mock ApplicationManager in unity8 not being exactly right. Don't top approve until we have the unity8 branch ready to also top-approve [10:13] mzanetti: hi! Broken again? How? [10:14] dandrader: thanks for the review! [10:14] sil2100: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-saucy/3079/console [10:15] greyback: hey. I can't compile ricmm's branch [10:15] mzanetti: did you see the comment I added to the MR? [10:15] greyback: yes. I applied your patch [10:15] mzanetti: ah boo. What's the output, and I'll see [10:16] /usr/include/unity-mir/shellserverconfiguration.h:44:54: error: ‘int ShellServerConfiguration::the_shell_surface_configurator()’ marked override, but does not override std::shared_ptr the_shell_surface_configurator() override; [10:16] oh don't tell me Mir changed API... [10:16] mzanetti: ok let me look into that [10:17] like KWin... "We don't have a stable API, and we'll never have" :D [10:31] dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity-mir/newAppManAPI/+merge/184250 just 1 little comment, otherwise I'm happy to approve === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [10:44] greyback, o sh*t, we forgot about that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6069890/ [10:44] :( [10:44] if those MPs go in as they are we will not be able to install both packages (qtubuntu and unity-mir) [10:44] dandrader: I didn't. That should have landed in unity-mir [10:45] hmm, I've to rebase my stuff them [10:45] dandrader: unity-mir should place its plugin in /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/imports/Unity-Mir/Unity/Application/qmldir [10:45] s/qmldir// [10:48] greyback, updated https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity-mir/newAppManAPI/+merge/184250 [10:48] greyback: any findings about the compile error? [10:49] mzanetti: just compiling now [10:49] ok. bbiab [10:51] mzanetti: compiles fine here. [10:51] dandrader: thanks. Approved [10:58] greyback: do you guys use some ppa? [11:00] mzanetti: the unity-mir in saucy should be enough. It's not changed in some time [11:00] * greyback confused [11:02] mzanetti, when I run unit8 in mir (with the new App manager api) the launcher starts up empty. where should I look? [11:03] * dandrader realizes he asked this before :) [11:03] hehe.. I was just thinking what to reply... [11:03] well, make sure you wile the old config from accountsmanager [11:03] wipe [11:04] dandrader: do a dist-upgrade and reboot, think something new was added recently [11:04] greyback, it worked for you [11:04] ? [11:04] dandrader: it worked for ricmm [11:07] dandrader: it worked for me with archive's unity8-private [11:07] it provided the right schema [11:07] also you need to either reboot or manually restart accounts-daemon/dbus [11:07] hmm [11:07] you can see if it works by doing: [11:07] gdbus call --system --dest org.freedesktop.Accounts --object-path /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User32011 --method org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Get com.canonical.unity.AccountsService launcher-items [11:08] greyback: ^ you too [11:11] "Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: No such property 'launcher-items' [11:11] (According to introspection data, you need to pass 'ss')" [11:12] maybe if I build and install unity8 package.. [11:12] do you hve /usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/com.canonical.unity.AccountsService.xml ? [11:12] check that it has that propett listed at the end [11:12] property* [11:12] yes, if you install the private one it should ship the schema [11:12] ricmm, no it's not there [11:13] will try copying the new one there [11:13] ok [11:14] greyback: ill do a clean round on both images [11:14] OSK stack ready? [11:16] ricmm: all the bits are there anyway. Need someone to approve [11:18] ok, that one can land first, right? [11:24] ricmm: yep [11:26] ok [11:38] greyback: good news from moenicke [11:38] ricmm: yay! [11:38] his branch will be in time with our landings [11:39] \o/ [11:41] Can someone confirm unity8 trunk doesn't build? It was okey last night. [11:41] I'm about to test it in a few minutes [11:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6070044/ [11:41] ricmm: tnx [11:42] karni: what version of libunity-api-dev have you? You need 7.80.3+13.10.20130905.2-0ubuntu1 [11:43] greyback: 7.80.3+13.10.20130903.1-0ubuntu1 [11:43] my bad, should have updated, sorry guys [11:43] karni: no prob. We're bleeding edge here :) [11:43] greyback: :) [11:47] more like just bleeding [11:47] D: [11:51] ricmm: ;) [11:54] Can someone point me where can I learn about unity8 scopes? Or where I can find the source? [11:56] karni: the source for most of the scopes will be on LP under the name of the scope at a guess :) You could also look at developer.ubuntu.com I'm pretty sure I saw something on scopes there [12:00] davmor2: can't find the source on lp. looking at dev.ubu.com writing-a-unity-scope. === hikiko is now known as hikiko|lunch [12:03] karni: https://launchpad.net/~scopes-packagers/+archive/ppa maybe? [12:04] davmor2: not exactly generic 'Scope' source, but might come in handy! thank you [12:04] davmor2: the tutorial from dev.ubu.com might shed some light, reading it now === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|lunch [12:12] greyback: will soon be installing debs for everything [12:12] apart from the AP test fixes, what else are we waiting on? [12:14] ricmm: I need to approve your fullscreen branch. The OSK bits need approving. Your unity8-run-mir branch needs a fix for running on desktop. And the big one: review for ~gerboland/unity8/u8-newAppAPI2 [12:15] mzanetti: could I add https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/unity8/u8-newAppAPI2/+merge/184194 to your MR queue. Your input would be very welcome [12:17] greyback: sure [12:18] tru [12:22] mzanetti: how does if (qgetenv("QT_QPA_PLATFORM").contains("ubuntum") sound? [12:22] all I want is for it to toggle ubuntumirclient/server to ubuntumirserver every time [12:22] that should default to startShell() if non-Mir [12:26] ricmm: why don't do the real check and make it contains("ubuntumirclient"). That should do too and make it clear what you want to achieve === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:28] mzanetti: that would skip ubuntumirserver, both cases should result in the server being loaded [12:28] I added a comment in the line above to make it clear [12:29] ricmm: ah right... I though you're only setting the env var in there [12:29] its just a more collapsed way of checking for both I guess, once [12:29] ricmm: ok then. but make it at least contains("ubuntumir"), or even startsWith("ubuntumir") [12:29] sure [12:31] mzanetti: pushed [12:31] thanks for the reviews [12:31] * mzanetti pulls [12:33] ricmm: ok. the code reads ok, still need to get around the command line argument handling. but I guess that needs to be fixed in mir itself [12:33] finally got the launcher default icons running unity8-mir with the new app manager api [12:33] dandrader: code changes in the launcher needed? [12:36] mzanetti, no, just had to build and install unity8-private [12:38] mzanetti, updated https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/runningApps_lp1193419/+merge/177630 === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:48] davmor2: sadly, the dev.ubu.com tutorial is plain c++. I'm more interested in QML part in unit8 ;( [12:49] karni: bug mhall119 [12:49] mhall119: Suggestions where I cound learn about QML part/API of Scopes in Unity8? [12:52] ricmm: ok the fullscreen stuff works, approved, but won't land as daniel's branch is prereq. [12:52] ricmm: dandrader|lunch modified the doc, as I didn't realize there was such a dependency [12:53] yes [12:53] dandrader|lunch: when you get back, can you look after the OSK bits please? [12:53] I had added a line there a bit before [12:53] my shell still building with all [12:53] zzz [12:53] I need proper arm chroot [12:53] im using one [12:53] still slow :) [12:53] jesus [12:54] having progress with AP fails, hope to squash it soon [12:55] greyback: awesome === hikiko|lunch is now known as hikiko [13:05] greyback: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/unity8/u8-newAppAPI2/+merge/184194/comments/418509 [13:06] greyback_: : https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/unity8/u8-newAppAPI2/+merge/184194/comments/418509 [13:07] mzanetti: thanks, will address shortly [13:10] * mzanetti is only doing reviews since 24 hours [13:10] dandrader|lunch: approved [13:11] mzanetti, thanks! === jhodapp|sick is now known as jhodapp [13:18] mzanetti: I don't like that you've to register interfaces with QML, to use the roles that the actual implementation uses. [13:19] greyback_: well... that's how it is I guess... still better than having the enum defined twice [13:19] greyback_: I might be wrong tho... try without first [13:20] mzanetti: yeah, I'll play around === pstolowski|lunch is now known as pstolowski [13:23] * mzanetti wonders if the "Dash plugins" section is supposed to stay in the final state === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [13:31] kgunn: dednick_ : Cimi: standup? [13:39] dandrader: can I get you to look at the OSK-related MRs please? [13:42] greyback_, yes [13:42] thanks === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods-lunch [13:45] lol... "Linus Torvalds released the 3.11“Linux for workgroups” kernel.." [13:46] :) [13:50] greyback_, I believe it's pretty safe to top approve this https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/qtubuntu/fakeOSKController/+merge/184141 [13:50] dandrader: go right ahead [13:52] mzanetti, thanks for that review comment in the filters mp [13:52] responded back. [13:52] greyback_, need your approval here https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity-mir/OSKController/+merge/183013 [13:53] dandrader: you got it [13:54] dandrader: don't top approve the shell MR until at least the qtubuntu one has landed [13:54] and we'll need to carefully sync up the package releases [13:56] greyback_, although I was never able to see the OSK in unity8 mir... [13:56] dandrader: well that MR won't break anything at least :) [13:56] right [14:01] nic-doffay: responded back [14:03] greyback_: I assume this can be discarded: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/refactor-wm-and-test/+merge/172583 [14:06] dednick_: if you merge this I'll approve: https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/unity8/indicator.visibility/+merge/181642 [14:06] Wellark: should I discard this MR? https://code.launchpad.net/~kaijanmaki/unity8/launcher-backend/+merge/179663 [14:06] mzanetti: cool. will do [14:11] mzanetti: if you are happy with the run-on-mir branch, can you bottom approve? [14:11] or would you point me to other changes [14:12] dandrader: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity-mir/OSKController/+merge/183013 [14:12] theres a text conflict, can you solve it? [14:13] ricmm, already did [14:13] thanks [14:13] rebuilding [14:15] MacSlow: hey...has anyone pinged you about a repeatedly failling test wrt ephemral notifications ? [14:15] MacSlow: i fwd'd you a mail [14:16] kgunn, nope... not yet... checking inbox [14:16] mzanetti, still need me to work on lp:~unity-team/unity8/package-qmltests? [14:16] mzanetti, I was also a bit sceptical about the set values for inividual selectors, but I'd say for now a decision was reached by design unless they decided otherwise. [14:17] dandrader: yeah. if possible we should have that at some point (not highest priority tho) [14:17] kgunn, ok... hm... the urgency-test never failed sofar... [14:17] ricmm: well it still doesn't start on the desktop [14:17] kgunn, I'll look into it once I've got the user-input feedback via DBus working all nicely [14:18] ricmm: so we can't land it. [14:18] MacSlow: thanks...and yeah, weird that it should suddenly fail reliably [14:18] kgunn, but this is on my radar now... thanks [14:18] mzanetti: about your shell not running well on the phone, not showing apps and such [14:18] you probably have something wrong in your environment [14:18] because it has been running fine here for a while [14:18] it needs the whole chain of everything [14:19] right... that might be. so ignore that last comment then [14:20] ricmm: about the command line args handling... is it possible to fix that in mirserver? [14:20] ricmm: mir is a library. I should not exit if there is a command line arg that it doesn't understand [14:20] the other option would be to consume the args in the shell (remove them after having parsed) but I strongly object to that [14:21] so you are talking about it failing when running on desktop on Mir ? [14:21] mzanetti, well, I've nothing else to do at the moment [14:21] hmm... good point actually... why does it load up mir anyways... [14:21] dandrader: ok. then please go ahead [14:21] did you try the last change? the .contains("ubuntumir") [14:22] ricmm: damit... I pulled but did not build (used to just edit qml files) [14:24] mzanetti: np, please give it a spin, sorry that you have to rebuild [14:24] that said if it works we should be just waiting on gerry to address your comments and fix the AP tests [14:24] ricmm: yeah... works fine again on X [14:24] great [14:24] but yeah... mir still needs be fixed once we want unity8 on mir on the desktop [14:25] yup but thats a task for another day [14:25] yep [14:25] a change like that can have a turnover time of a week with mir [14:25] ricmm: I've approved it [14:25] oh really? [14:26] that sounds a lot [14:26] thanks [14:26] wonder where gerry went D: [14:27] ah there he comes [14:28] dandrader: src/modules/Unity/Application/OSKController.qmlUNKNOWN*No copyright* [14:28] in the unity-mir OSK MR [14:28] can you add a license header like the other files and update please? [14:28] ricmm, already did [14:29] darn you are fast [14:29] :) [14:30] greyback_: wb, most branches are approved [14:30] and I'm seeing to their landings in jenkins [14:30] missing the last stuff from your unity8 branch as commented by mzanetti [14:30] so, by the time we get to it in the landings, you'll probably have it fixed ;) [14:31] ricmm: heh no pressure :) [14:31] yea, its not like theres a ticking clock or anything [14:31] they are all digital now a days [14:33] greyback_: I think once unity-mir/qtubuntu from OSK land we can land the API ones for the same two trunks [14:33] and then release both [14:33] ricmm: yep, agreed [14:34] ricmm: well once we definitely have unity8 ready [14:34] yea [14:34] ricmm: you've tested everything? Any issues found? [14:34] still testing [14:42] mzanetti: greyback_ the second OSK MR has landed [14:42] is https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/unity8/addOSKController/+merge/184255 ready? [14:42] ricmm: yes [14:42] ricmm: qtubuntu? [14:42] qtubuntu landed first, unity-mir just got merged too [14:43] although I gues autolanding will fail with that MR until qtubuntu is released to archive [14:43] sil2100: ping, we are beginning our landings [14:51] dandrader: responded here https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/unity8/u8-newAppAPI2/+merge/184194 [14:53] ricmm: bad whitespace here too: https://code.launchpad.net/~ricmm/unity8/unity8-run-mir/+merge/184195 [14:53] ricmm: fyi. if you want you can do a "cd .bazaar && make install" to avoid future bad whitespaces in unity8 [14:55] mzanetti: and whas the name of the thing I need to run? [14:56] ricmm: nothing. it'll check automtically when you do a bzr commit and warn you about it [14:59] mzanetti, ping [14:59] cwayne_: pong [15:00] mzanetti, hey, so we noticed that the colors int he infographic are super-hardcoded into unity, is there any way we can get this configurable? [15:00] pete-woods-lunch: ^^ [15:00] nic-doffay: maybe you know? ^ === pete-woods-lunch is now known as pete-woods [15:04] cwayne_: sure - I made it very clear in the codebase that they were hard-coded until someone told me they wanted them configurable [15:04] we just need a new implementation of the colorprovider interface [15:04] pete-woods, we're working on customization for operators, and this is one of the requirements [15:05] cwayne_: well it will be very easy to implement, just tell me where I should read the color palette from :) [15:06] pete-woods, probably the selected theme? [15:06] does that make sense? [15:06] cwayne_: well the words make sense :) but as a back-end developer I am not familiar with the themes === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [15:07] it seems to me we need a selection of provided for the infographic [15:07] *of colors [15:07] pete-woods, :) what about pulling colors from the current background? [15:08] the mock-ups showed a variety of colors that had been chosen to match the current theme [15:09] perhaps it might make sense for the library to just be told what colors to use [15:09] then leave it up to unity to force them on it [15:09] i think we can assume that the qml theme will be chosen to go well with the background [15:09] so having the infographics stuff inherit from the qml theme makes sense [15:10] ah, it's the same conversation [15:11] mzanetti: dandrader|afk I need some fresh eyes, this failing AP is killing me. lp:~gerboland/unity8/u8-newAppAPI2 [15:11] greyback_: ack [15:12] run "make testShell" [15:12] cwayne_, ssweeny: it will problem adding a trivial API for unity to set the color palette [15:12] pete-woods: +1 on grabbing background image average color for the infographics [15:12] bad grammar [15:12] *it will be no [15:12] mzanetti: it's failing due to the mock ApplicationManager I made. It is correct to fail. But I can't see what I'm doing wrong [15:12] mzanetti: but won't that only give us a single color? [15:12] there are like 3 colors for each infographic [15:13] pete-woods: how about the average color from the image, then +/- 10 brightness for the others? [15:13] 10% or whatever [15:13] something like that [15:14] mzanettI: aren't they supposed to be contrasting colors, though? [15:14] e.g. purple and pink, orange and red [15:14] pete-woods: well... you know what I mean... can also invert them... whatever fits the mockups best [15:15] there must be some logic to choose matching, but still different colors [15:15] mzanetti: it sounds like we need some form of API to allow operators to specify colors, from what ssweeny is saying [15:15] even if that API is just a config file [15:16] I guess we need katie's input [15:16] agreed === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:23] kgunn, pete-woods, mzanetti: I've the extended snap-decisions (for user/wifi-authentication use-cases) working now... no more busy-polling or race-conditions... still got to clean up some bits... branches have been updated. [15:23] Macslow: :D [15:23] nice [15:23] greyback_, I thought when you said AP it was an autopilot test. you can also interact with it mannually with make tryShell [15:23] MacSlow: awesome! [15:23] dandrader: I know [15:24] greyback_: well, the first difference I notice is that in trunk a fake app shows up when I click the launcher [15:24] well, mzanetti told me earlier [15:24] kgunn, pete-woods, mzanetti: I'll also do a summary-email with the current state/screencast later today. [15:24] greyback_: doesn't happen in your branch [15:24] let's see, I wrote most of this test code... [15:25] dandrader: testRightEdge [15:25] mzanetti: please, keep it. [15:25] mzanetti: which one did you click? Not all of them have pictures I think [15:25] the mR [15:25] Wellark: ack [15:25] greyback_: try trunk... all of them do something [15:25] greyback_: actually, merge trunk please [15:25] mzanetti: ok [15:26] (if you've done so already today, you broke something and dandrader will soon know what) [15:26] ricmm: excellent [15:26] ricmm: is everything landed already? [15:27] pete-woods, mzanetti: so whats the plan? we're going to ask design and go from there? [15:28] cwayne_: yeah. best thing would be if you directly ask katie... because you know the requirements and she knows how to keep it pretty [15:29] cwayne_" that sounds sensible to me - katie will definitely have a good idea of how we should be specifying our colors [15:32] greyback_: hi! Do you know which packages related to the unity8-mir thing we need to release? qtubuntu, unity-mir and unity8 ? [15:32] greyback_: all merges landed already, do you know? [15:32] sil2100: it will be all those 3 yes. But we're not ready yet, there's things to be checked and fixed still. [15:33] greyback_: ACK [15:33] ;) [15:33] greyback_, ricmm: so I'll be waiting for a green flag from you guys then [15:33] asac: ^ [15:34] sil2100: let me sort my brain for one moment ;) [15:34] sil2100: can we make a list of what we want to push in this shot? [15:34] and double check with ricmm that it has everything? [15:34] also checking if there is osmething super risky like an SDK update [15:34] :) [15:34] sil2100: kenvandine already started making such list [15:34] so check with him [15:36] asac: ah, so you mean 'things to release in overall'? Ok [15:36] sil2100: yeah. what has accumulated so far [15:36] adn then see if there are any potential bombs hidden [15:37] because given how late we are the idea of a isolated, just unity landing is a bit hard to do [15:37] rather shoot everything that is safish [15:37] and hope :) [15:39] nic-doffay: there is a way... but your branch is currently messed up. if you push a working state I'll debug it [15:41] sil2100: so ping me with list. i will also run the "NOT GETTING PULLED LIST" through pat [15:41] as he was interested in ensuring we land enough [15:41] (in case we decide to leave stuff out) [15:41] Ok [15:45] greyback_, first find: ApplicationManager::focusApplication is not getting called when you launch a fake app as it's in trunk [15:49] greyback_, which means that Stage.__focusActualApplication is not getting called in this case.... [15:51] dandrader: side-stage apps aren't launching correctly either. /me doesn't see why, as they should be forced to be main stage [15:52] greyback_: on the phone? or in AP testing [15:52] ricmm: on AP testing. [15:52] ok [15:53] I checked main & side stage on tablet using SF, all working ok [15:54] With dynamic quicklists is it possible to remove individual entries or delete the entire quicklist? I'm using Python. [15:54] greyback_: timing issues? [15:57] ricmm: possible, but I doubt it. I suspect logic error in the mock AppManager [15:59] greyback_, hmmm, Shell.activateApplication() is not even getting called when you launch a fake app [16:00] greyback_, ignore me, I was poking at the wrong dir! :) [16:00] dandrader: uh oh! [16:00] :) [16:00] thank god, it was starting to get too weird :) [16:06] greyback_, ok, so the application paramater in the State.__focusActualApplication call is undefined when launching a fake app [16:06] s/State/Stage [16:08] dandrader: yeah, that's wrong [16:08] Stage.focusedApplicationWhenUsingScreenshots is empty [16:09] while it should have the app [16:11]