[00:00] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: ok thanks
[00:01] <dicedingus> Can anyone else gives some pointers on what might prevent a new installation from connecting to secure wifi networks?
[00:01] <energizer> Adam_Dymitruk: my keys didnt work, so i wrote a script to edit the appropriate file on hotkey press
[00:02] <energizer> Adam_Dymitruk: it was in /sys/class/backlight/intel.../brightness
[00:04] <moarcores> Which ubuntu 13.10 is most stable? it appears to have my usb problem patched in the new kernel
[00:05] <Rad-> jrib: 13.04 ubuntu, yes
[00:06] <jrib> Rad-: output of « echo $PATH; ls -l ~/bin »?
[00:06] <tierra_> alguien q me pueda ayudar
[00:07] <tierra_> sobre un problema con el audio
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> moarcores, #ubuntu+1 is the 13.10 channel
[00:07] <tierra_> holaaaaaaa
[00:08] <jrib> !13.10 | moarcores
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> !es | tierra_
[00:09] <Rad-> file
[00:09] <Rad-> er
[00:09] <Rad-> jrib:  let me paste bin one sec
[00:12] <TeamRocket1233c> Just curious, what'll be happening with the derivatives when 14.04 comes around, assuming the distro will be on Mir completely by then?
[00:12] <jrib> TeamRocket1233c: ask the derivatives?
[00:13] <TeamRocket1233c> One of my buds on dA worries that Mir will end up being adopted across the board by then.
[00:14] <moarcores> All the desktops I know are adopting wayland... and it's already somewhat done
[00:14] <TeamRocket1233c> However the main Unity spin is adopting Mir.
[00:15] <Rad-> jrib: http://pastebin.com/AVvYV18x
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> !ot | TeamRocket1233c moarcores
[00:16] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: hey it didn't work i got it for a smaller amount of time but same dev cryptswap1 not ready thing... ;\
[00:17] <themanwithnoface> blazemore: should i uncomment the crytpttab line?
[00:17] <jrib> Rad-: pastebin your ~/.profile
[00:19] <Rad-> jrib: no point. i have a .bash_profile so profile isn't read
[00:19] <Rad-> oh.
[00:19] <jrib> Rad-: this is your issue.  Grab the stanza that adds ~/bin to path and copy it over.
[00:19] <Rad-> thanks
[00:21] <themanwithnoface> hey guys i'm getting the "The disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or is not present" error when i startup 13.04
[00:21] <oknow> hi
[00:22] <themanwithnoface> would this be safe to try? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2164313&p=12740244#post12740244 ?
[00:23] <c_smith> themanwithnoface, not gonna say it's the best solution, but I usually ignore that message. never has impacted my system
[00:23] <c_smith> themanwithnoface, but that looks safe enough to try, your link
[00:24] <oknow> my ISP has apparently been hacked by chinese . The notorious hn.kd.ny.adsl is being supplied by the DHCP as the gateway.The ISP has been contacted but in the mean time please advice  or point where to seek help
[00:24] <c_smith> themanwithnoface, though if you look 2 posts down,
[00:25] <c_smith> themanwithnoface, you'll see the issue could simply be timing issues before the swap partition is mounted
[00:25] <c_smith> and as such can be ignored.
[00:26] <c_smith> themanwithnoface, try swapon -s first to see if it's mounting correctly, pastebin it and link it if you're not sure.
[00:26] <Rad-> also ubuntu+vbox guest utils is funky =\
[00:26] <Rad-> doesn't resize properly
[00:26] <Rad-> at all
[00:26] <oknow> my ISP has apparently been hacked by chinese . The notorious hn.kd.ny.adsl is being supplied by the DHCP as the gateway.The ISP has been contacted but in the mean time please advice  or point where to seek help
[00:27] <c_smith> oknow, be patient, if someone knows anything about your issue, they'll get to you, don't keep rapidly reposting.
[00:30] <AcidRain2012> :/
[00:30] <AcidRain2012> is perl installed by default on ubuntu/
[00:30] <AcidRain2012> ?*
[00:31] <dr_willis> yes AcidRain2012
[00:31] <dr_willis> and on most distros
[00:33] <Levi__> what is the topic
[00:33] <reisio> Levi__: /topic
[00:34] <dr_willis> ubuntu support. ;-)
[00:34] <histo> !perl | AcidRain2012
[00:34] <histo> !info perl | AcidRain2012
[00:34] <Levi__> oh thanks
[00:34] <c_smith> dr_willis, what about active perl? :P jk
[00:34] <dr_willis> c_smith:  its inactive
[00:34] <c_smith> dr_willis, I know, I was kidding
[00:35] <dr_willis> !info rexx
[00:35] <dr_willis> i prefer rexx  ;-)
[00:36] <c_smith> anyway, should probably take those kinds of shenanigans to #ubuntu-offtopic, eh?
[00:38] <worrow> I have a success story to tell and someone needs to add it to the fix page somewhere
[00:38] <reisio> worrow: :)
[00:38] <Levi__> worrow tell it
[00:38] <worrow> There have been numerous cases of ubuntu and brightness hotkeys not working right?
[00:39] <Levi__> i think yah
[00:39] <reisio> numerous, that's a fancy word
[00:39] <worrow> I have found the solution 100% fix
[00:39] <reisio> I believe you have for your particular situation :)
[00:39] <worrow> I was running kernel 3.8.0.28 or similar 3.8.something
[00:39] <SonikkuAmerica> worrow: Pray tell!
[00:40] <worrow> Well there is a stable release of linux kernel 3.11
[00:40] <reveldevel> anyone have success getting todo.sh running?
[00:40] <worrow> very easy, download the new 3.11 kernels (there are 3 parts to install)
[00:41] <dr_willis> worrow:  post it at askubuntu.com
[00:41] <worrow> http://askubuntu.com/questions/119080/how-to-update-kernel-to-the-latest-mainline-version-without-any-distro-upgrade
[00:42] <dr_willis> you could post your whole question, with pc make and details. and the answer you used, so others can find it easier
[00:42] <Levi__> so worrow what does this new kernal fix
[00:42] <worrow> thats the instructions for the update. I'm not good at putting together fixes. I'm running Asus K55A brand new 2 wees ago and my brightness would not change at all and tried everything out there. I figured I might try the new kernel and voila
[00:43] <dr_willis> but upgradeing to a new kernel - is a bit of a extreme fix. :) hopefully the bug fixs make the way down the kenrnel tree eventually
[00:43] <worrow> Well it has alot of changes, I am still fairly newbish. I would assume it must have some underlying changes not listed as it did not show that t was a fix for those sorts of things
[00:44] <dr_willis> search askubuntu.com for that make pc. see if others have similer issues.. if so mention your fix as an answer
[00:44] <Levi__> worrow what do you use to turn up the brightness do you use you keyboard or do you use the slider in ubunut
[00:44] <AcidRain2012> what is command to run synaptic?
[00:44] <worrow> kernel install was easy, download the 3 parts and install in order by open with software centre. after all 3 are done restart to allow changes to install. boots up and good to go.
[00:44] <kostkon> AcidRain2012, sudo synaptic
[00:44] <worrow> Took me less time then all those terminal attempts listed
[00:45] <AcidRain2012> synaptic not found
[00:45] <dr_willis> actually it should be  'gksueo synaotic'
[00:45] <dr_willis> synaptic
[00:45] <kostkon> AcidRain2012, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[00:45] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:  so insstall it. ;)
[00:45] <dr_willis> 'gksudo synaptic' to run synaptic with root rights
[00:45] <worrow> where do i go to write up the fix or even email ubuntu team about it solving the brightness issue
[00:46] <reisio> worrow: if it's a remotely common issue, there'll be an item on launchpad.net for it already
[00:46] <dr_willis> !bug | worrow
[00:46] <AcidRain2012> wow. synatpic made life so easy
[00:46] <worrow> my bug was reported by many already
[00:46] <dr_willis> worrow:  i imagine thers allready similer questgions and alternative fixs mentioned at askubuntu.com aso
[00:46] <worrow> now I have no bugs
[00:47] <dr_willis> problem is - you are now using a unsupported kernel. ;)
[00:47] <dr_willis> so if it does get fixxed  in the official kernels. you wont notice it
[00:47] <worrow> brb checking askubuntu to post solution
[00:58] <Pewp> I asked this yesterday and was not able to get an answer, so I will ask again. All my other ppas waork, except the 4 kubuntu/kde ppas I installed, that I was using perfect before reinstall. Apt/spkg just doesnt see the packagfes
[00:58] <Pewp> But my other ppas work.
[00:59] <Pewp> Ive tried removing the ppas, apt-get update, rebooting, adding the backports ppa, updating, and still no change
[00:59] <Pewp> This is very odd, and i would
[00:59] <Pewp> rather not reinstall to fix
[00:59] <daftykins> third party PPAs?
[01:00] <Pewp> daftykins: official kubuntu ppas
[01:00] <Pewp> No one in the kubuntu channel ever answers, itsa always dead
[01:00] <Pewp> So i asked here last night, got one idea, and it did nothing
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> Pewp, Probably a bit late now maybe, but there is ppa-purge it removes the ppa's and their packages returning you back to a previous state.
[01:01] <dr_willis> synaptic has a filter button to show what packages are  avilable from a specific source/ppa
[01:01] <Pewp> Ya i know
[01:01] <dr_willis> see if they are in fact enabled
[01:01] <Pewp> But it has not added ANY paclkagfes
[01:01] <Pewp> so purge is point;less
[01:01] <Pewp> But im well familiar with purge and y-ppa-manager
[01:01] <Pewp> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa
[01:02] <Pewp> They should be, they are in the roighjt sdir, i user add-apt-repositoryt
[01:02] <Pewp> etc
[01:02] <Pewp> i have no paclages install from this ppa thoiughy sadly
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> !who | Pewp
[01:02] <Pewp> loemme try install ing y-ppa-manager
[01:02] <histo> Pewp: contact the ppa owner and see perhaps the version numbers of packages in there are older.
[01:02] <Pewp> onlyu one person is talking to me
[01:03] <Pewp> histo: no they are not
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> Pewp, Two did and cut the attitude.
[01:03] <Pewp> these are official kubuntu ppas
[01:03] <Pewp> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppahttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa
[01:03] <Pewp> the first 4 loisted
[01:03] <Pewp> not the staging
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> !attitude  Pewp
[01:03] <Pewp> stop giving me bot crap, no offense
[01:03] <dr_willis> synaptic lets you browse that specific ppa to see what packages are there you could install.
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | Pewp
[01:03] <Pewp> im this close from ignoring ubottu as the noise is annoying everytime it spealking
[01:04] <Pewp> ./ignore ubuntu ALL
[01:04] <Pewp> done
[01:04] <Pewp> I have no problem typing ypour niclk
[01:04] <Pewp> but dont claim i have an attitude when i dont
[01:04] <Pewp> Im answering simjpole querstions i have already given the info to
[01:04] <Pewp> Like, noi packagfes actually being installed
[01:05] <worrow> well my solution was posted in a reply. How do I go about writing a blog in askubuntu that is not via reply to oter thread?
[01:05] <Pewp> I am not a newbie, i comre here as a last result only
[01:05] <dr_willis> worrow:  askubuntu.com has where you post a question, then post answers, and a way to put comments on the question/answers
[01:05] <Pewp> wilee-nilee: so anything real to offer, or you just keep bombaring me with obottu? :P
[01:06] <Pewp> cause this makes zero sense
[01:07] <Pewp> lets see if the y-ppa-manager ppa works
[01:08] <Pewp> all the other do beside kubuntu and kde
[01:08] <histo> !enter | Pewp
[01:08] <Pewp> poh please
[01:08] <OerHeks> Pewp, are you on raring or saucy ?
[01:08] <Pewp> it was two lines
[01:08] <Pewp> more ignore for ubottu
[01:08] <Pewp> OerHeks: `raring, the ppas doent support 13.10
[01:08] <OerHeks> Pewp, for raring there is just 1 package updated > https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=raring they are working on saucy now
[01:08] <Pewp> as they are backports type
[01:09] <AcidRain2012> FINALLY!!! i got to chmod the folders i was wanting to without accidentally chmoding my "/" :D
[01:09] <Pewp> uh there much more in thre beta backports and exterimental snd such for 13.04
[01:09] <AcidRain2012> it was not at the cost of all of my servers though that im annoyingly having to resetup
[01:09] <histo> AcidRain2012: nice. I found some ways online you could repair it but it's not worth the headache vs. reinstalling
[01:09] <AcidRain2012> histo, lol. to late now man. lol
[01:10] <Pewp> for instance, in beta-backports, apps like caligra the office suite, do not showup
[01:10] <histo> AcidRain2012: basically you'd have to get the permissions out of a package manager to see what the defaults are and apply them with a custom bash script.
[01:10] <Pewp> even thoiugh they did oiion prior install
[01:10] <AcidRain2012> im going to copy all permissions on my comp, and create a bash file to automatically reset permissions
[01:10] <AcidRain2012> oh... nvm. cant use terminal when u mess up like that :/
[01:10] <Pewp> it takes me 15min to install but its a pain
[01:10] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:  makes me wonder how you are manageing to mess them up  in the first place. ;)
[01:10] <Pewp> yaz i could keep my home dir, but i dont want to in case something is conflicting
[01:10] <AcidRain2012> histo, it wouldnt let me use terminal :P
[01:10] <histo> AcidRain2012: you can mount the fs on a live cd and repair that way
[01:11] <AcidRain2012> oh ya
[01:11] <AcidRain2012> good point
[01:11] <AcidRain2012> lol. dr_willis i dont even wanna talk about it
[01:11] <histo> AcidRain2012: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/permissions-repair-tool
[01:11] <AcidRain2012> yall should have seen the expression on my face when i accidentally hit the enter key though
[01:12] <Pewp> OerHeks: and what do ya know, the ppa for y-ppa-mkanager and my ppads work fine
[01:12] <Pewp> it makes NO sense
[01:12] <histo> AcidRain2012: we've all been there.
[01:12] <AcidRain2012> histo, i feel sry for any soul who travels that path
[01:12] <Coburn> woooot
[01:12] <Coburn> Just got sound working on my PowerPC Mac Mini G4
[01:13] <histo> AcidRain2012: that one link looks like they are working ona  tool
[01:13] <Coburn> Needed to unblacklist snd-aoa
[01:13] <Pewp> Kubuntu and KDE ppas stiull not working
[01:13] <Pewp> havent tried the kde-neon ppa
[01:13] <Pewp> gtk2, wow this old sauce
[01:13] <AcidRain2012> histo, i wish them the best of luck. that was the worst experience ever.
[01:14] <AcidRain2012> histo, if you seen sex drive, the movie, at the end when the dad finds out the older brother is gay, and he flips the table over. that was me with my computer. lol
[01:14] <histo> AcidRain2012: happens quite often with people learning cli
[01:14] <histo> AcidRain2012: lol
[01:14] <Pewp> wb OerHeks
[01:15] <Pewp> im not sure where to start troubleshooting. the y-ppap-manager ppa works mint
[01:15] <AcidRain2012> cool. only 8 more servers to configure
[01:15] <AcidRain2012> lol
[01:16] <worrow> is there any way to get intelHD 4000 driver on ubuntu?
[01:16] <AcidRain2012> i will say, this is my fastest manual recovery time yet
[01:16] <themanwithnoface> c_smith: hey you there?  swapon -s isnt showing anyhting? sorry late reply
[01:16] <scx> hello
[01:16] <AcidRain2012> omg
[01:16] <AcidRain2012> i have this horrible fuz sound in the background
[01:17] <scx> What is equivalent of gnome-default-applications-properties in Ubuntu/Unity?
[01:17] <xubuntu_> Hello, I need some help - I have a windows 8 laptop, and I wanted to dual-boot with Kubuntu, however the EFI was causing a lot of problems so I followed some guides on the internet (using easybcd) but now I can't boot either - it just says "Windows failed to start - The boot configuration data file doesn't contain valid information for an operating system", does anyone have any idea how to get it working again?
[01:18] <daftykins> xubuntu_: you'll need to ask in ##windows to fix the 8 install
[01:18] <bbtech> I can't seem to remount a partition with different options. I'm trying to turn on acl. Can someone please take a look and tell me what I'm missing? http://pastebin.com/PQc6vfn2
[01:19] <xubuntu_> How do I get there?
[01:19] <xubuntu_> oh wait, thanks
[01:19] <xubuntu_> got it
[01:19] <scx> 1. How to change default application in latest 1) Ubuntu 2) Kubuntu?
[01:19] <raub> xubuntu_: cool
[01:19] <AcidRain2012> a box just popped up asking me to install some windows sound thing, something about python. didnt give me the option to install it right then so i clicked off of it. now i have this loud annoying fuzz/static sound in the background
[01:20] <dr_willis> scx:  checked askubuntu.com yet? they most likely have a guide or 2 on doing it.
[01:20] <AcidRain2012> ooo. i got it to go away :D not sure how
[01:20] <worrow> I hae intelHD 4000 card but under driver is says unknown, how can i figure out what driver is there?
[01:20] <histo> worrow: lspci -k
[01:20] <daftykins> your driver will be 'intel' :>
[01:20] <dr_willis> worrow:  under what exactly i it saying driver 'unknown' ?
[01:21] <worrow> dr_willis,  settings, details overview
[01:21] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever looked there. ;)
[01:22] <dr_willis> the x logs will say what driver it is using also  i belive
[01:22] <scx> Does Unity use just gnome-default-applications-properties or own app?
[01:22] <dr_willis> scx:  i thought it used the gnome parts for that
[01:22] <scx> dr_willis: ok, thanks
[01:22] <dr_willis> since its using nautilus as its file manager and so forth
[01:22] <worrow> in the terminal it says vga compatible controller driver is i915. is that right for the intelHD 4000 or is there a better one?
[01:23] <dr_willis> unity is a shell on top of gnome-3
[01:23] <dr_willis> worrow:  i imagine its right if thats what it decided to use.
[01:23] <dr_willis> intel tends to be rather problem free - except in a few weird cases  ;0
[01:24] <dr_willis> at least problem free when ompared to the disasters people often have with ati and nvidia ;)
[01:24] <worrow> is there upgrades to the i915 kernel?
[01:24] <histo> worrow: what problem are you experiencing?
[01:24] <sean_> balls
[01:25] <sean_> memes
[01:25] <histo> !ot > sean_
[01:25] <worrow> isto no problem, just would like it to list a driver in the overview it bothers me. lol
[01:25] <sean_> Lol, sorry
[01:25] <worrow> histo,  also like being up to date
[01:26] <dr_willis> worrow:  file a bug report.  and with ubuntu you do your apt-get update/upgrade once a week or so.. and you are up to date
[01:26] <worrow> dr_willis,  i always do. I just fixed a bightness hotkey bug by latest stable kernel 3.11
[01:27] <dr_willis> and here i thought the odd # kenrnel versions were considered Unstable. ;)
[01:27] <bbtech> I can't seem to remount a partition with different options. I'm trying to turn on acl. Can someone please take a look and tell me what I'm missing? http://pastebin.com/PQc6vfn2
[01:27] <dr_willis> or have they changed that
[01:27] <worrow> dr_willis,  not in my case
[01:28] <worrow> 3.11 kernel is pimping.
[01:28] <dr_willis> your use of the term  'stable and unstable' may not be what the kernel devs are using the same terms to mean
[01:29] <histo> !latest | worrow
[01:29] <worrow> suppose it depends on system use.
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> nor pimping a negative
[01:29] <dr_willis> the kernel devs actually have a definition of what they do for their 'stable' ernel and the unstable kernel is what im saying
[01:30] <worrow> ubottu, latest kernel 3.11 was a fix for me.
[01:30] <dr_willis> unless they changed things. any odd number kernel was to be considered 'unstable'
[01:30] <dr_willis> which is a testing type branch of the kernel
[01:30] <worrow> they advertised 3.11 a stable release on a big bold button on their site.
[01:31] <dr_willis> perhaps they have gotten away form the even/odd number scheme then
[01:31] <histo> worrow: please lose the windows mentality that you need the latest stuff. They are usually only bug fixes for certain people in the updates and won't provide anything new to you.
[01:32] <worrow> histo,  I'm not a windows user, I hate windows. But I don't always see latest and greatest.
[01:33] <histo> worrow: then I'm confused by your question?
[01:33] <AcidRain2012> 7 more servers :D
[01:34] <worrow> histo,  I just want my driver to show in my system. I'm long time or was long time mac user. Bought brand new windows 8 laptop and immediaely wiped it. I despise windows. Hackintoshes are too unstable to consider and linux is so friendly and easy to mess with
[01:34] <histo> worrow: driver to show where?
[01:34] <histo> worrow: lspci -k  will show you the kernel module in use
[01:35] <histo> worrow: and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log will show you which driver it used for the screen
[01:35] <delinquentme> how to check installed programs via apt-get ?
[01:35] <delinquentme> I want to see what kind of programs with names like libusb are installed
[01:35] <honestly> apt-cache search libusb
[01:36] <histo> delinquentme: dpkg -l libusb
[01:36] <honestly> or that. me, I just use aptitude.
[01:37] <delinquentme> histo, how to add wildcards at front and end ? dpkg -l *libusb*
[01:37] <histo> delinquentme: yeap
[01:38] <histo> delinquentme: ii is installed rc is removed but configuration files are left behind etc...
[01:38] <delinquentme> https://gist.github.com/delinquentme/4018322e7754609677d3
[01:38] <cellofellow> I've been having this problem. http://askubuntu.com/questions/336830/new-login-keychain-created-at-each-login
[01:38] <delinquentme> what are all these outputs on the top about?
[01:39] <cellofellow> (I'd comment on the AskUbuntu question but I don't have enough rep.)
[01:40] <AcidRain2012> how do i mount my internal hdd?
[01:40] <AcidRain2012> :/
[01:40] <AcidRain2012> its not listed in fdisk -l
[01:40] <histo> delinquentme: describes each field
[01:40] <williangliao> hello guys
[01:40] <AcidRain2012> lemme restart
[01:40] <histo> delinquentme: the | is a pointer down
[01:41] <AcidRain2012> might fix it
[01:42] <uronu> anyone know how to pushd a samba server shared folder?
[01:42] <uronu> anyone knows how to pushd a samba server shared folder?
[01:42] <reveldevel> dr_willis, any help with todo.txt resources or guides? #todotxtapp is a ghost town and the online how-tos (incl forums) have got me a bit confused...
[01:43] <reveldevel> dr_please :-)
[01:43] <dr_willis> reveldevel:  ive never neve heard of 'todo.txt'
[01:44] <delinquentme> any idea on what this output from $ dmesg means ? main process (808) killed by TERM signal
[01:44] <dr_willis> sounds like a  rather poor /gimmicky name for a program ;)
[01:44] <jrib> reveldevel: what's your actual question?
[01:44] <reveldevel> dr_willis, aw. todo.sh is a bash program that manipulates a todo.txt file from the cmd line
[01:44] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  process 808 (whatevver that was, got set the 'TERMinate' single.  and quit.
[01:45] <phed> oh god my first comment as a dude who has used linux since 1996 - ubuntu people, do you even use your own system?
[01:45] <dr_willis> reveldevel:  cant say ive ever needed it.
[01:45] <phed> =(
[01:45] <somsip> reveldevel: what is the query?
[01:46] <jrib> phed: do you have a support question?
[01:46] <reveldevel> jrib, i seem to have trouble calling the program and ensuring that .cfg and ~.bashrc files are correctly edited and in the proper directories
[01:46] <jrib> reveldevel: you need to give details
[01:46] <delinquentme> If I installed a package called minicom which was being used to edit routing between USBs ... how can I remove it so that the system is as it was pre minicom install?
[01:46] <reveldevel> dr_willis, http://todotxt.com/
[01:46] <phed> jrib: no, more of a general culture problem
[01:46] <jrib> phed: ok, but this channel is for technical support with the ubuntu OS
[01:46] <cellofellow> Anyone know why a new Login keyring is being created at every login?
[01:46] <jrib> !ot | phed
[01:47] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  sudo apt-get purge packagename
[01:47] <somsip> reveldevel: the docs are pretty good on this. HAve you worked through https://github.com/ginatrapani/todo.txt-cli/wiki/Quick-Start-Guide
[01:47] <reveldevel> jrib, somsip, let me figure out where to start
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> phed, You a professor at the uni
[01:47] <dr_willis> cellofellow:  first guess would be some file or directory in the users home. somehow got owned by root. so the user cant writge the changes to it
[01:47] <phed> jrib: is there any support in there?
[01:48] <jrib> phed: "there"?
[01:48] <reveldevel> somsip, yes; i have it open now
[01:48] <cellofellow> dr_willis: do you know where the keyring files are?
[01:48] <phed> jrib: are there any support in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:48] <delinquentme> dr_willis, is there a way to findout what killed a given PIS ?
[01:48] <delinquentme> PID*
[01:49] <jrib> phed: with few exceptions (see !guidelines), -offtopic is for anything that isn't ubuntu support related.  So I suppose you could ask for support with something that doesn't have a more appropriate channel
[01:49] <phed> !guidelines
[01:49] <dr_willis> cellofellow:  not really looked into it in ages. I bet askubuntu.com lists where they are at exactly
[01:50] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  not that ive noticed.  #bash may be able to tell you if its possible
[01:50] <reveldevel> jrib, i have downloaded the todo.txt_cli-2.9.tar.gz; unpacked it; moved the THREE files from Downloads to /usr/local/bin
[01:51] <dr_willis> reveldevel:  if its just for your own user. you may want to put them in  /home/yourusername/bin
[01:52] <cellofellow> dr_willis: found the keyrings, in .local/share/keyrings if you care, but they're all owned by me.
[01:52] <reveldevel> dr_willis, for all users if possible
[01:54] <cellofellow> brb, gonna drop to a console
[01:54] <phed> jrib: ok, i see. i don't want to crowd up here, but 1) what is the name of the channel for those who do the windowmanager 2) how can i get a "cpu-meter/process" sort of view fast?
[01:54] <AcidRain2012> how do i get terminal to cd as root? >_>
[01:54] <reveldevel> dr_willis, i am primary and usually only user but would like to be able to demo it with a guest account. if that uses MY todo.txt (~revdev/Dropbox/todo/todo.txt then for single user only
[01:54] <AcidRain2012> su - invalid password
[01:54] <AcidRain2012> im using the root password though
[01:54] <jrib> phed: this channel is appropriate for those kinds of questions
[01:55] <jrib> phed: well, you can ask window manager questions here anyway
[01:55] <jrib> !root | AcidRain2012
[01:55] <AcidRain2012> jrib, im trying to...
[01:55] <AcidRain2012> cd into a drive thats not mine
[01:55] <jrib> AcidRain2012: you're trying to what?
[01:55] <phed> jrib: i'm habing random lockup issues with the window manager - and sadly switching out of the window manager to diagnose it causes it to resolve
[01:56] <phed> jrib: ie ctrl-shift-1 in order to switch to term causes the problem to cease
[01:56] <jrib> phed: you mean ctrl-alt-f1?
[01:56] <phed> oh sorry, obviously
[01:57] <jrib> phed: hand then when you come back (ctrl-alt-f7), your gui is no longer hanging?
[01:57] <jrib> -h
[01:57] <phed> jrib: new machine, so the kb layout tricked me. i beg for the day they do actually standardize the qwerty
[01:57] <phed> exactly
[01:57] <jrib> phed: weird.  Haven't seen that.  If no one here knows, you might try later or try one of: the forums, mailing list, or askubuntu
[01:58] <jrib> reveldevel: you haven't asked a question yet
[01:59] <jrib> AcidRain2012: so did you sort out your issue by reading ubottu's link?
[01:59] <reveldevel> jrib, when the levee breaks...  ;-)
[02:00] <phed> jrib: one concern, i'm running 12.10 - is an upgrade advisable?
[02:00] <AcidRain2012> jrib, no i didnt
[02:00] <jrib> phed: it's a good idea
[02:00] <jrib> !upgrade | phed
[02:00]  * phed has regretted an upgrade before, but it was way more complex than this machine
[02:00] <jrib> AcidRain2012: why not?
[02:01] <phed> jrib: any idea of what timespan that upgrade would .. span?
[02:01] <AcidRain2012> well its apparent that i cant login as root. i also cannot cd as root
[02:01] <AcidRain2012> cd with sudo*
[02:01] <dr_willis> cd with sudo. is a bit pointless
[02:01] <jrib> phed: depends on how much you've installed.  I think it gives an estimate before asking you if you want to bail (don't quote me on that though)
[02:01] <phed> what you mean by "cd as root"
[02:01] <dr_willis> if you need a root shell 'sudo -s'   or 'sudo -i' and then go to town
[02:02] <phed> eg does "cd /home/someuser" not work or "cd /" not work
[02:02] <AcidRain2012> phed, changed to cd with sudo
[02:02] <jrib> AcidRain2012: what do you actually want to do?  You can get a root prompt with « sudo -i » but why don't you say what you actually want to do after you cd?
[02:02] <AcidRain2012> i want to cd to /media/AcidShower/
[02:02] <phed> "sudo cd /" will not cause any action, since it rusn another shell that will not modify your current shell
[02:02] <jrib> AcidRain2012: then I guess your problems are solved.
[02:03] <phed> "sudo cd /" will just cause a new instance chdir to / - but return to your original setting
[02:03] <AcidRain2012> jrib, thx for being not-so-difficult this time ;)
[02:04] <jrib> AcidRain2012: not sure what you mean
[02:04] <phed> AcidRain2012: you cannot cause a new process to change the directory for you - unless that process changes your CWD-variable, and that can be done without an SU
[02:05] <reveldevel> jrib, i have my executables still in a folder (/usr/local/bin/todo/txt.txt_cli-2.9). is it correct to say i need to get them out of that file and place them directly in /usr/local/bin  ?
[02:06] <phed> AcidRain2012: if you do manage to change your cwd, short for current work directory, (ie. what is printed when you run "pwd"), you will end up in a directory where "ls" will return a "access denied" message. even typing cd .. will yield that. so you have to type somethign like "cd /" to get back in a sane environment
[02:06] <jrib> reveldevel: yes, that is correct.  There's only one executable though... todo.sh
[02:06] <AcidRain2012> phed, thx for info
[02:07] <reveldevel> jrib, ok, right. then there is todo.cfg and todo_completion
[02:07] <somsip> reveldevel: this is all covered in the installation guide...
[02:07] <phed> AcidRain2012: it is better if you explain what you are trying to achieve instead of that immediate problem
[02:07] <jrib> reveldevel: todo.cfg is an example config file and todo_completion is for you to setup completion.  See the quick start guide somsip has pointed you to
[02:08] <AcidRain2012> phed, im done. thx man. i was changing permissions but i just wanted to be in that directory so i could use the tab key so i didnt have to type "/" character incase i accidentally hit enter again and changed all permissions on my disk ;p
[02:09] <phed> AcidRain2012: haha ok, keep your tongue straight as we say
[02:10] <phed> AcidRain2012: one trick i use is to type # when i make long stuff
[02:10] <reveldevel> somsip, thanks, and true, that they are. but i am confused as there are windows/cygwin instructions and some not inconsequential gaps in my working knowledge here...
[02:10] <reveldevel> jrib, example, you say?
[02:10] <phed> AcidRain2012: eg.: phed$ # ls -l
[02:11] <phed> AcidRain2012: that way I know that an accidental enter won't launch the dreaded ls -l onto my system
[02:11] <AcidRain2012> lol. i wish it was ls -l
[02:12] <phed> AcidRain2012: just prefix with # and you know it will never run
[02:12] <phed> (this uh "self-invented" trick saved my ass probably twice)
[02:12] <phed> *self-re-discovered
[02:14] <AlexandreMBM> Hello! My "question about CUPS filter": http://goo.gl/XQHn94
[02:14] <AcidRain2012> phed, good idea man. im doing this everytime now. no matter what command i enter. i cant let that happen gain :/
[02:14] <AcidRain2012> again*
[02:15] <phed> AcidRain2012: Haha ok, let this be known as the great phedvention manevour or somethign
[02:15] <AcidRain2012> hmmm... i cant seem to get ssh to follow sym link
[02:15] <AcidRain2012> lol. ill tell terminal to give credit to u each time a command is prefixed with #
[02:16] <somsip> reveldevel: what step are you on? What have you done and succeeded in doing?
[02:19] <reveldevel> somsip, i have downloaded the .zip, unzipped, moved to /home/revdev/bin
[02:19] <reveldevel> somsip, chmod +x to make executable
[02:19] <somsip> reveldevel: but you want this to be availabel for all users?
[02:19] <reveldevel> somsip, and i now see that there are some slightly different files in the /home/usr/bin rather than /usr/local/bin
[02:20] <reveldevel> somsip, ...which is why i shifted gears away from avail to all users
[02:20] <reveldevel> somsip, will all users be manipulating MY todo.txt file?
[02:20] <somsip> reveldevel: no - and slow down. Let's get this working first
[02:21] <somsip> reveldevel: post the result of 'echo $PATH'
[02:21] <reveldevel> somsip, thanks :-)   run from which directory, or does it matter?
[02:21] <somsip> reveldevel: just follow the instructions and I'll try to be complete in what I ask for
[02:23] <Rad-> can i apt-get a deb or do i have to dpkg
[02:23] <somsip> reveldevel: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[02:23] <reveldevel> somsip, /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[02:23] <somsip> Rad ^^ (ignore that reveldevel )
[02:23] <reveldevel> somsip, 10-4
[02:23] <Rad-> so i have to use dpkg. thanks
[02:23] <somsip> Rad-: yes
[02:24] <somsip> I'm going to recommend you move the todo.sh to /usr/local/bin to save you a step, ok? Do you know how to do that?
[02:24] <somsip> reveldevel: ^^
[02:25] <reisio> though you might want to keep the actual script in ~/ somewhere
[02:25] <reveldevel> somsip, yes. only that file? will we move the other later/to a diff place?
[02:25] <somsip> reveldevel: I'll get you sorted. Just move todo.sh to /usr/local/bin.
[02:26] <reveldevel> reisio, @me? working the KISS angle with somsip ;-)
[02:27] <reveldevel> somsip, done.
[02:27] <somsip> reveldevel: next 'cd && mkdir .todo' which will create a dfirectory to put the todo.cfg in
[02:27] <reisio> reveldevel: you trickster you
[02:29] <somsip> reveldevel: actually, ignore that. mc the todo.cfg to ~/.todo.cfg instead
[02:29] <somsip> *mv
[02:29] <reveldevel> somsip, ok. do this in my current /usr/local/bin directory?
[02:30] <wood_quinn_> Does anyone here use irssi or weechat with an OTR plugin?
[02:30] <reveldevel> somsip, mv && mkdir todo.cfg ~./todo.cfg
[02:30] <somsip> reveldevel: go to where todo.cfg is saved and 'mv todo.cfg ~/.todo.cfg'
[02:30] <sysop3231> hello all. im a programmer, just moved to ubuntu desktop. i love it. can anyone point me to a code editor that is 100% easy to theme? i tried geany, which is nice, but the colorscheme system is AWFUL. im an older fellow, and i need a darker editor. if you can point me to one that starts out that way, that would be nice, or something that realizes it is 2013, and is clickably themable. i appreciate it. thank you.
[02:30] <wood_quinn_> I would like to know if they are compatible with Pidgin's.
[02:31] <wood_quinn_> sysop3231: You can use a terminal emulator and vim :D
[02:32] <reisio> sysop3231: just run 'xcalib -i -a' (after installing xcalib) :)
[02:32] <reveldevel> somsip, done
[02:33] <SinnerNyx> I'm trying to run "sudo apt-get install npm". Then I get a whole bunch of lines that have the following form "npm : Depends: [packagename here] but it is not going to be installed"
[02:33] <SinnerNyx> The last line is E: unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[02:33] <SinnerNyx> I ran dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
[02:33] <somsip> reveldevel: now a test. type 'todo.sh' and you should see 'Usage...'
[02:33] <SinnerNyx> but that returns nothing.
[02:34] <wood_quinn_> SinnerNyx: Have you ever run "apt-get update" ?
[02:34] <SinnerNyx> wood_quinn_: About a dozen times since I've had this problem.
[02:34] <SinnerNyx> wood_quinn_: No change
[02:34] <reveldevel> somsip, this works from several test directories
[02:35] <SinnerNyx> I'm using the chris lea PPA. Could the PPA be broken?
[02:35] <somsip> reveldevel: now 'todo.sh -d ~/.todo.cfg ls' and you should see '1 Test' if I remember rightly, or 'No todo' possibly
[02:36] <reveldevel> somsip, that pulls up my todo.txt file from dropbox :-)
[02:36] <somsip> reveldevel: explain what dropbox has to do with this
[02:37] <reveldevel> somsip, it does not pull up '1 test' or 'no todo'; it pulls up my todo.txt file (and presumably allows editing)
[02:38] <somsip> reveldevel: so was your todo.cfg one you used before? Not the one from the zip? And if you think this will allow you to edit, you have the wrong idea of how todo-cli works
[02:41] <reveldevel> somsip, the todo.cfg is the one i used/edited before; yes the one from the zip. (You are quite possibly more right than you know; however, I have tested and was able to edit one task)
[02:41] <reveldevel> somsip, i ran: todo.sh pri 61 a
[02:41] <reveldevel> and it prioritized line/task 61 to A and colored it yellow
[02:42] <somsip> reveldevel: ok - do you want to finish getting this to a state where it is easier to use?
[02:42] <reveldevel> somsip, yes, please!
[02:42] <somsip> reveldevel: 'cd && echo >> .bash_aliases && echo '# Todo.sh' >> .bash_aliases'
[02:45] <reveldevel> somsip, where >> equals consecutive commands?
[02:45] <somsip> reveldevel: adds a blank line and a comment line to the end of .bash_aliases file. More to come when you've done that one
[02:47] <reveldevel> somsip, type exactly as transcribed above? i am trying to decipher the command
[02:47] <somsip> reveldevel: my patience is wearing thin. copy from between the quotes and paste it
[02:48] <reveldevel> somsip, hope i'm not wearing you out. thanks again for the help :-)
[02:48] <somsip> reveldevel: so i've used all single quotes which may be confusing. but paste everything excpet the first ' and the last '
[02:49] <reveldevel> somsip, done. i got no output and no errors
[02:50] <somsip> reveldevel: next 'echo "alias todo='todo.sh -d ~/.todo.cfg" >> .bash_aliases && echo "export TODOTXT_DEFAULT_ACTION=ls" >> .bash_aliases'
[02:51] <phed> hmm, where can i read more about the idea behind the desktop?
[02:51] <reisio> "the desktop", or Ubuntu's?
[02:51] <phed> I'm really struggling with the overall idea. At the same time, I do hate that MS Word don't explain the style concept anywhere in full.
[02:51] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_metaphor
[02:51] <phed> Unity, which i believe is the ubuntu desktop
[02:52] <phed> which is why i am here
[02:52] <reisio> ah yes
[02:52] <phed> also, desktop metaphore is a concept I could deride - clearly unity does not follow that
[02:52] <reisio> IIRC, besides being ultimately based off Mac OS's, it comes from the Ubuntu Netbook Remix derivative
[02:52] <reisio> which wanted to maximize efficiency for small screens
[02:52] <reisio> phed: sure it does
[02:52] <reveldevel> somsip, done; no output; no errors
[02:53] <Impossible> is eurooffice open source>> anyone knoiw
[02:53] <reisio> just not the most traditional interpretation of it
[02:53] <somsip> reveldevel: next '. .bash_aliases'
[02:53] <reisio> Impossible: never heard of it
[02:53] <Impossible> the website doesnt say much ugh
[02:53] <reisio> which website?
[02:53] <Impossible> http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=en&style=eurooffice&page=eo
[02:53] <phed> since upon isntall it is full of default icons, all the interesting ones are stacked below the fold ...
[02:54] <reisio> says free & open source
[02:54] <reisio> it also says it's LibreOffice :p
[02:54] <phed> i can unlock icons, but i have no idea how to access the application i remove
[02:54] <Impossible> all i see is Libreoffice and apache open office derivative
[02:54] <reisio> which would guarantee it's open source
[02:54] <Impossible> ok
[02:54] <reisio> you can't make a closed source derivative of OpenOffice or LibreOffice, really
[02:54] <Impossible> thx
[02:54] <reisio> Oracle could, but nobody'd use it
[02:54] <phed> eg. i prefer if i had one icon for Libre instead of 3
[02:54] <Impossible> lol
[02:54] <reveldevel> somsip, http://pastebin.com/UZRwE3a0
[02:55] <phed> click one, see three new aspect-icons
[02:55] <phed> that would be good
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> larry has enough money anyway
[02:55] <reisio> or well, I guess they already gave Apache all the IP?
[02:55] <reisio> so maybe they couldn't even :p
[02:55] <Impossible> a program can be commerical and open source corect.>?
[02:55] <phed> yes
[02:55] <reisio> yes
[02:56] <Impossible> thanks
[02:56] <somsip> reveldevel: looks like you pasted a ' in there by mistake. 'nano .bash_aliases' and scroll to the bottom of the file
[02:56] <reisio> but you can't not distribute the source code of a GPL licensed application
[02:56] <reisio> not without violating the license
[02:56] <reisio> which would open you up to litigation
[02:56] <phed> but if you paid for a piece of software, and you get nothing but a binary compilation of an open source product - you were ripped off.
[02:56] <phed> in many jurisdictions, you would have a reason to sue
[02:56] <reisio> not even Microsoft has bothered to wait and see if they got sued
[02:56] <Impossible> i see i see
[02:57] <reisio> every time they're caught violating the GPL, they open source :p
[02:57] <somsip> reveldevel: pastebin the contents of .bash_aliases too
[02:57] <Impossible> do you guys still use windows
[02:58] <phed> reisio: you can of course redistribuite the soruce code of a gpl app
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> I started on open source but use it for word
[02:58] <reisio> phed: hrmm?
[02:59] <phed> reisio | but you can't not distribute the source code of a GPL licensed application
[03:00] <reveldevel> somsip, http://pastebin.com/YXFgkMFA
[03:00] <phed> reisio: oh, you mean
[03:00] <reisio> phed: English is fun :p
[03:00] <reveldevel> somsip, i believe i see the offending " ' "
[03:00] <phed> "you can't not distribute the source code of a GPL licensed application without declaring the license"
[03:00] <somsip> reveldevel: add a ' to the edit of line 5, after .todo.cfg
[03:00] <reisio> no I mean
[03:00] <phed> reisio: but that is valid for any sourcecode anyway
[03:00] <reisio> the entire purpose of the GPL is to guarantee the source code will be available
[03:00] <reisio> you cannot NOT distribute it
[03:01] <somsip> reveldevel: then save the file. Can you see how to do that from in nano?
[03:01] <phed> uh
[03:01] <reisio> whereas technically "open source" means nothing but "hey you can look at it, maybe, if you can find it"
[03:01] <somsip> reveldevel: CTRL O then CTRL X
[03:01] <phed> reisio: you can OF COURSE distribute the source code
[03:01] <reisio> phed: you are misreading my statement
[03:01] <phed> reisio: that's the whole point of it
[03:02] <phed> reisio: in my terms, the sourcecode obviously includes the license
[03:02] <reveldevel> somsip, yep, done, thanks
[03:02] <somsip> reveldevel: and can you now '. .bash_aliases' ok?
[03:02] <phed> reisio: non-open-source code is even harsher about not including the license
[03:02] <cjae> what is a good gui app to crop an mp3 into a ringtone?
[03:02] <phed> err
[03:02] <reveldevel> somsip, no output; no errors
[03:03] <reisio> phed: we're on the same page, you're just misreading my statements :p
[03:03] <cjae> it can stay mp3 just need to crop beginning and end
[03:03] <somsip> reveldevel: now type 'todo' and it should do the same as when you did 'todo.sh -d ~/.todo.cfg ls'
[03:03] <kostkon> cjae, audacity
[03:03] <reisio> cjae: audacity
[03:03] <reisio> kostkon: ! :p
[03:03] <kostkon> ;)
[03:03] <cjae> reisio: easy?
[03:03] <reisio> cjae: yeah
[03:03] <phed> reisio: it's ok. i ack'ed it
[03:03] <cjae> coo thanks
[03:03] <reveldevel> somsip, yep
[03:03] <reisio> 15 dudes in #audacity
[03:04] <cjae> nice
[03:04] <phed> reisio: point is that oss code is not special in that regard
[03:04] <somsip> reveldevel: so this has made 'todo' and alias for 'todo.sh -d ~/.todo.cfg' and means if you don't add an action (add, ls, delete) it assumes 'ls' for list
[03:04] <reisio> in what regard?
[03:04] <phed> reisio: eg if you google and find some code - you can't freely copy that
[03:04] <phed> reisio: even if it is undeclared, you cannot copy it
[03:05] <reisio> you can't assume its license, indeed, not without asking for trouble
[03:05] <reisio> but 'open source' isn't a license
[03:05] <phed> reisio: so there's nothing special about oss code in that regard
[03:05] <reisio> in what regard?
[03:05] <phed> in regard of sharing
[03:05] <somsip> reveldevel: in the docs, the suggest using 't' for the alias instead of 'todo' but now you know how to use nano to edit it if you want to later. Just remember to '. .bash_aliases' after editing to get it to take effect
[03:05] <reisio> sharing?
[03:06] <phed> reisio: share/redistribute
[03:06] <phed> even "public domain" have to be declared
[03:07] <phed> let's move this to #-offtopic
[03:07] <reisio> nothing has to be declared, the burden is on the copier :p
[03:08] <lid6j86> nothing has to be, but probably should be
[03:08] <reisio> lid6j86: 'cept for marshmallows, they're required
[03:08] <phed> reisio: this belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic but I can't invite you. If a piece of code is public domain, yet not declared as such, it is not copiable. Even if the original source was public domain, and the new copy is unchanged.
[03:09] <reveldevel> somsip, ok, i see that. i now have an orphan file left over in /home/revdev/bin called todo_completion. it is a script and the top reads "source-this-script"
[03:09] <reisio> there's nothing to stop you but a court system, which would only come into play after you copied it :p
[03:10] <reisio> and if I were interested in this conversation, I wouldn't only be replying to you
[03:10] <somsip> reveldevel: step 4 on https://github.com/ginatrapani/todo.txt-cli/wiki/Quick-Start-Guide
[03:11] <somsip> reveldevel: use the 'system wid' step, not the 'or' step just because it is easier
[03:13] <cjae> righto n they even have a ringtone tutorial....win
[03:14] <wagle> which of the jillion commands do I look at to find out why apache2 got installed (according to a dependency from another package)?
[03:14] <somsip> reveldevel: but you also need to do the 'If you define an alias...' step, which would be 'complete -F _todo todo' for what you've just done
[03:14] <reisio> wagle: look into disabling apt 'recommends'
[03:15] <phed> oboy, ok i should not upgrade - since i risk damaging encrypted accounts on this machine
[03:15] <reveldevel> somsip, right, step 4 complete. i am not clear on the .bashrc bit, though
[03:15] <wagle> reisio: I'm more wanting to do it again, so looking at an image of the previous system
[03:16] <somsip> reveldevel: that is the 'or' step I recommend that you didn't do
[03:17] <wagle> i forgot why i had it installed
[03:19] <reveldevel> somsip, i skipped the 4.b step but ran the "complete -F _todo t"
[03:19] <reisio> wagle: should be a log in /var/ somewhere
[03:19] <reisio> find /var/ -name 'apt'
[03:19] <somsip> reveldevel: oh god :( look what I told you to do 5 mins ago...
[03:21] <reveldevel> somsip, unless I missed something, i followed your instructions. i ran the system wide NOT the -or- (4.b) option
[03:21] <somsip> reveldevel: yeah, you missed something:  which would be 'complete -F _todo todo' for what you've just done
[03:21] <wagle> reisio: cool, thanks
[03:23] <reveldevel> somsip, 'i skipped the 4.b step but ran the "complete -F _todo t"' (although i see you said "...-F _todo todo" whereas i ran just "..t")
[03:24] <reveldevel> somsip, let me try the correct command
[03:24] <cjae> so audicity make my computer go nuts and freezes steady
[03:25] <reveldevel> somsip, done; no output, no errors
[03:26] <somsip> reveldevel: so now can you 'todo a{tab}' and it expands to 'todo add'?
[03:26] <kellmoo69> hello all
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:27] <reveldevel> somsip, no; it reads: todo abash: completion: function `_todo' not found
[03:27] <kellmoo69> good evening over her ;)
[03:27] <kellmoo69> over here
[03:28] <somsip> reveldevel: did you 'sudo cp todo_completion /etc/bash_completion.d/todo' ?
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: good evening :p
[03:28] <cjae> http://cut-mp3.com/
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> cjae: this isnt the place for comercials
[03:29] <reveldevel> somsip, yes; just checked the list of commands i have run
[03:29] <kellmoo69> Newbie Ubuntu user - I have a question to ask
[03:29] <somsip> reveldevel: so you're done. But please, for sanity's sake, learn how to follow instructions properly
[03:29] <PedroBR> Anyone can help me?
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: shoot your question
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> !ask | PedroBR
[03:30] <cjae> sorry just everytime i try to do something, seems there is a better online solution, gets annoying
[03:30] <histo> PedroBR: ask
[03:31] <fungoat> XChat open but not in the Launcher. Anyone seen that before?
[03:31] <reisio> cjae: it's not as fun, but if you assume there's a better known, documented solution by default... :)
[03:31] <PedroBR> Okay, sorry. Well i have a netbook (Acer aspire one D250) and i dont know which system ill install
[03:31] <kellmoo69> @lotuspsychje - okay new install ubuntu desktop version and I noticed 2 partitions called "file system" both different sizes.  is this normal?
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> PedroBR: i have an acer aspire one netbook, and running ubuntu 13.04 64bit
[03:32] <reveldevel> somsip, well, apart from the "completion function '_todo' not found"
[03:32] <reveldevel> somsip, but you've got me out of the woods, and for that, i am most grateful
[03:32] <PedroBR> I tried ubuntu 13.04 32bits here, but its too slow :/
[03:32] <reveldevel> somsip, so Thank You!
[03:32] <somsip> reveldevel: well, everything I just walked you through is on the page I gave you. But it's done. And I need to work now. Good luck
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> PedroBR: what are your system specs?
[03:33] <NedsFlam> Hey guys. I just made a bootable usb for ubuntu...and I tried to use it on another computer that has windows installed so that I could install ubuntu. However the computer is not able to actually boot from the flash drive
[03:33] <NedsFlam> it says something fails when it trys
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: did you install ubuntu, and checked partitions afterwards? or are you still in the partition screen in install?
[03:34] <chockey> NedsFlam: Something?
[03:34] <NedsFlam> chockey: I am about to try it over again
[03:34] <NedsFlam> chockey: I'll tell you in a moment, sorry
[03:34] <PedroBR> Processor Atom 1.6 ghz (N270). 2gb RAM. Intel GMA 950 video
[03:34] <kellmoo69> install completed
[03:35] <kellmoo69> and yup i used auto config partitions
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: your partitions might be coreect then, one hd and one swap
[03:35] <kellmoo69> and thus noticed both have almost identical folders
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> PedroBR: what was 'slow' exactly in 13.04?
[03:35] <kellmoo69> ah okay
[03:35] <sysop3231> this is a dumb question - my fonts on my default bootstrap setup look different. for example, here is the heading fonts from bootstrap: http://getbootstrap.com/2.3.2/base-css.html#typography and here is mine, built from the example: http://snag.gy/uYmT4.jpg
[03:35] <sysop3231>  why are my fonts so much different? is this because of ubuntu and apache2?
[03:36] <sysop3231> did i not install the required fonts when i set up ubuntu web server?
[03:36] <RiverRat> If I am installing Ubuntu server 12.04.3 and select configure the network it asks for an interface and I select it but it doesn't seem to stick and won't let me set the parameters manually.  Any suggestions?
[03:37] <histo> SushiDude: wjat
[03:37] <histo> sysop3231: what?
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> RiverRat: did you install wifi driver, what chipset?
[03:37] <PedroBR> lotuspsychje, well, the system itself...Unity, Firefox, if i open some tabs...
[03:37] <RiverRat> lotuspsychje: It isn't noticing the wireless card.  It is the wired driver that I am trying to use.
[03:37] <kellmoo69> question - should there be a partition created by default to be dedicated for the user files?
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> PedroBR: hmm, you might wanna try 12.04 lets, or if that slows down, xubuntu or lubuntu
[03:38] <RiverRat> It is an ancient Toshiba laptop I'm trying to revive.
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> RiverRat: chipset of the eth card?
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> !info xubuntu-desktop | PedroBR
[03:39] <RiverRat> lotuspsychje: Intel 82557 Ethernet pro 100
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> PedroBR: try installing this, and you will be able to login to xubuntu, just to try system speeds are better
[03:39] <histo> !font | sysop3231
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> RiverRat: any driver shows in 'additional drivers' mate?
[03:39] <kellmoo69> The home folder as an example, should this be located in a separate partition?
[03:40] <PedroBR> lotuspsychje, Okay, thank you! I will try 13.04 again (at moment i have mint mate 15), and if keep slow, i will try this
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> PedroBR: good luck!
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: maybe you still got left-overs from your previous Os?
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | kellmoo69
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: try that package to check all your partitions
[03:42] <kellmoo69> Dual boot windows 7 and Ubuntu
[03:42] <RiverRat> lotuspsychje: No.  Like I said, it is an ancient Toshiba.  It might not be able to deal with this new Ubuntu.
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> RiverRat: ubuntu got many drivers already, i sugest you try 13.04 and come back to chat
[03:43] <RiverRat> lotuspsychje: Well the IRDA driver but I've never set up an infrared driver.
[03:43] <AcidRain2012> boss
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: ah then your win partition will show too
[03:44] <RiverRat> lotuspsychje: I couldn't find a 32bit 13.04 version.  Should I look again?
[03:45] <slaveo> hello guys
[03:46] <slaveo> any one could help me pleaz
[03:46] <droop> Wy can my new user access my admin folders? i logged in as user1 and can access my pictures directories on my admin account
[03:47] <histo> slaveo: ask
[03:47] <histo> droop: what are the perms of the other users folder?
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> RiverRat: yes look again, its there :p
[03:48] <RiverRat> lotuspsychje: Ok, thanks.  I'll be a while to download and burn another.  :)
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> RiverRat: you can use an usb stick aswell if you like
[03:49] <slaveo> hi histo  i 've just installed bearshare.exe v8 on my ubuntu but i faced this error msg the program bearshare.exe has encountered a serious problem
[03:50] <reisio> heh
[03:50] <droop> histo: owner create and delete, group access files, and others access files
[03:51] <histo> droop: then change them
[03:52] <histo> slaveo: what network does bearshare connect to?
[03:52] <histo> !p2p | slaveo
[03:53] <uronu> how to install fonts like tahoma, san serif, arial and consolas?
[03:54] <slaveo> sorry im new user for linux thats why i asked
[03:56] <histo> !fonts | uronu
[03:56] <slaveo> is it possible to run bearshare on wine and which one is compatible
[03:56] <histo> slaveo: yeah I would stick with one of the apps in the software center vs. running a windows app in wine
[03:56] <calwig> does ubuntu have desktop widgets?
[03:56] <kellmoo69> here is my partition info according to GParted...Partitions are /dev/sda1 (system reserved) with mount point = /media/system reserved. Next is /dev/sda2 with mount point = /media/249aa93blahblah.  Next is Unallocated. Next is /dev/sda4 (extended). Next is /dev/sda5 (ext4). Next, /dev/sda7 (ext4) with mount point = media/5000blahblahblah. Next is another Unallocated. Next is /dev/sda6...
[03:56] <kellmoo69> ...(linux-swap). Last is /dev/sda3 (my laptops hidden recovery software drive)
[03:57] <slaveo> ok histo thanks
[03:57] <histo> calwig: there are many different widget apps you can use
[03:58] <histo> kellmoo69: what's the problem?
[03:58] <Baukbah> Hello newbie question here: What's different between 12.04 LTS and 13.04 for server
[03:59] <histo> !lts | Baukbah
[03:59] <Baukbah> also can I install latest stable builds on 12.04 LTS (for example I want mongodb but latest version)
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: /media will be your windows partition
[03:59] <Baukbah> because old versions have old packages
[04:00] <Baukbah> histo: my real question is the second question
[04:00] <histo> !latest | Baukbah
[04:00] <IamTrying> [   67.119758] xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: ERROR Transfer event TRB DMA ptr not part of current TD - How can i get ride from this problem???
[04:00] <histo> !ppa > Baukbah
[04:00] <calwig> histo, can these widgets access a proxy?
[04:01] <histo> calwig: don't know you have to check and see. I dont' run any
[04:01] <kellmoo69> Ah okay so all looks normal than from what you can see? I thought I might be missing a partition for all my data separate from the other partitions
[04:01] <calwig> histo, ok thx
[04:01] <Baukbah> I know PPAs but I want use Ubuntu's repos for my stuff
[04:01] <histo> kellmoo69: ubuntu by default doesn't create a seperate /home
[04:01] <histo> Baukbah: then if it's not in backports no
[04:01] <histo> Baukbah: or you can build yourself and make a deb with checkinstall
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: seems normal to me
[04:02] <kellmoo69> would you recommend that I do setup another partition for /home ?
[04:02] <histo> !seperatehome | kellmoo69
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: but i wouls use ubuntu on your entire drive and loose win7 once and for good :p
[04:03] <histo> !separatehome | kellmoo69
[04:04] <kellmoo69> it doesn't sound like it is necessary so because I am new to Linux/Ubuntu I'll just keep things the way they are :)
[04:04] <kellmoo69> Thank you for answering my question
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: thats wise, enjoy your new ubuntu system
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: if you need any good advice come back to chat ok
[04:05] <kellmoo69> I am so impressed with Ubuntu, it has all of my drivers installed...try that Microshaft lol
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: thats why i recommend single install ubuntu, not dualboot
[04:06] <kellmoo69> My next goal is to switch my windows server (NAS) over to Ubuntu Server
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: there are so many nice packages on ubuntu to replace your win life
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: thats recommended for sure also
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> !server > kellmoo69
[04:07] <histo> kellmoo69: no gui in ubuntu server so beware.
[04:07] <histo> !manual | kellmoo69
[04:07] <kellmoo69> Now that I have tested Ubuntu and have found it very user friendly, I will reinstall, this time no windows!
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: good decision!
[04:09] <kellmoo69> @lotuspsychje Thanks again for your great help
[04:09] <kellmoo69> and everyone else
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> kellmoo69: no problem ; ) come again here, and all others will help you aswell
[04:10] <kellmoo69> night all
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> nite
[04:10] <SinnerNyx> I'm trying to run "sudo apt-get install npm". Then I get a whole bunch of lines that have the following form "npm : Depends: [packagename here] but it is not going to be installed"
[04:10] <histo> !info npm
[04:10] <SinnerNyx> I ran apt-get update, but I'm still getting the same problem.
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> !info npm
[04:10] <histo> SinnerNyx: what package is not being installed?
[04:10] <SinnerNyx> Alot of packages I'll list them out. one sec
[04:11] <IamTrying> http://i.imgur.com/HigircB.png - How do i stop this flooding?
[04:11] <IamTrying> Machine is crashing over and over
[04:11] <histo> SinnerNyx: aptitude why-not npm
[04:12] <SinnerNyx> nodejs, node-node-uuid, node-request, node-mkdirp, node-minimatch, node-semver, node-ini, node-graceful-fs, node-abbrev, node-nopt, node-fstream, node-rimraf, node-tar, node-which
[04:12] <SinnerNyx> histo: one moment
[04:12] <SinnerNyx> nodejs Conflicts npm :S
[04:12] <SinnerNyx> What does that mean?
[04:12] <SinnerNyx> I thought npm relies on nodejs?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> IamTrying: on wich ubuntu version are you, and when does this error happen?
[04:13] <somsip> SinnerNyx: what version of nodejs installed? From the PPA or from the official repo?
[04:13] <SinnerNyx> I believe it installed from the PPA. Where could I check that?
[04:13] <histo> SinnerNyx: there's your problem
[04:13] <SinnerNyx> I mean I did add the PPA, and then I installed nodejs
[04:13] <somsip> SinnerNyx: check the version of nodejs...
[04:13] <histo> SinnerNyx: dpkg -l nodejs
[04:14] <somsip> SinnerNyx: so you've done nothing from the official repo? PPA worked fine here for me but see !PPA
[04:14] <SinnerNyx> nodejs 0.10.18-1chl i386..
[04:14] <somsip> SinnerNyx: current version as of this morning I think
[04:15] <SinnerNyx> somsip: I have two almost identical machines (as in I run the same lines on both of them almost simultaneously) except one is 32-bit and the other 64. The 32 bit ran fine with no problems. My 64-bit machine gave me this issue.
[04:15] <nerdtron> wew..too much happening in the xubuntu channel.. i might as well hang out a bit here :)
[04:15] <AlexandreMBM> Hello! Can anyone help me? My question: http://goo.gl/XQHn94
[04:15] <somsip> SinnerNyx: if this is the 64 bit, why is it a i386 package?
[04:15] <histo> !ppa | SinnerNyx
[04:15] <SinnerNyx> somsip, good question. I assume there is no 64-bit build, and x86 code runs in x64 ya?
[04:16] <histo> SinnerNyx: read the WARNING
[04:16] <somsip> SinnerNyx: the smae command recommended by histo for me gives: 0.10.18-1chl1~precise1
[04:16] <SinnerNyx> histo: I understand the risks, I'm not demanding that you solve my problems, only that you help me to troubleshoot them if you can.
[04:17] <SinnerNyx> !ppa-purge
[04:17] <histo> SinnerNyx: the ppa version of nodejs is probably the issue
[04:17] <SinnerNyx> histo: seems like the wrong version is being installed. How would I remove a PPA after running add-ppa-repository
[04:18] <SinnerNyx> I want to try installing the regular ubuntu build, and seeing if it gives me the same version information
[04:18] <Ben64> SinnerNyx: the bot just gave you info on how to remove a ppa...
[04:19] <SinnerNyx> Ben64, sorry, I didn't want to pollute one of my two images with ppa-purge if that was avoidable. I guess I have no choice though.
[04:19] <Ben64> pollute?
[04:19] <whiptail> ppa-purge is more akin to clean not pollute
[04:19] <SinnerNyx> I want to keep my two server images as close to exactly the same as possible.
[04:20] <Ben64> what whiptail said
[04:20] <SinnerNyx> whiptail: I only meant that it's unnecessary software, that I have no reason to install on one machine over the other. I'm not saying that it's a bad program, or in any way underhanded.
[04:21] <whiptail> SinnerNyx, in that case you could remove it when youre done with it
[04:21] <SinnerNyx> whiptail: fair enough.
[04:21] <xmetal> oops ... forgot i was here ... watching the game atm
[04:23] <histo> !ppapurge | SinnerNyx
[04:23] <serv-admin> Hey all. So I tried to turn automatic login on and it will not let me. Is there something else I have to do?
[04:23] <SinnerNyx> histo: yup, just ran that. checking the version
[04:24] <serv-admin> I literally cannot toggle the switch.
[04:24] <SinnerNyx> now it gives me nodejs 0.6.19~dfsg1 i386
[04:24] <SinnerNyx> so it was installing it from the PPA, I suppose.
[04:24] <histo> SinnerNyx: now apt-get install npm
[04:25] <SinnerNyx> The current stable version of nodejs is v0.10.18. Is the ubuntu repository not being updated?
[04:26] <histo> !latest | SinnerNyx
[04:26] <SinnerNyx> ic
[04:26] <histo> !info nodejs | SinnerNyx
[04:27] <SinnerNyx> histo, you've been very helpful. Thank you. Also to everyone else here in #ubuntu.
[04:29] <SinnerNyx> Turns out I'm an idiot
[04:30] <SinnerNyx> if you install nodejs from the PPA, npm is already included.
[04:30] <SinnerNyx> That's why it wouldn't install
[04:33] <Baukbah> http://schier.co/post/install-nodejs-on-ubuntu-server-with-ppa
[04:33] <Baukbah> change the last command with this: sudo apt-get install nodejs=0.10.18-1chl1~precise1
[04:34] <Baukbah> installs 0.10.18
[04:35] <SinnerNyx> Baukbah: Thanks for the advice, but installing from the ppa gave me 0.10.18
[04:35] <Nick1234567890> hey
[04:35] <Nick1234567890> who's in here
[04:35] <Nick1234567890> talk you
[04:35] <technmom> I just got here
[04:35] <whiptail> not me
[04:35] <SinnerNyx> interestingly enough, my 32bit box is reporting amd64 architecture, while my x64 box is reporting i386...
[04:35] <SinnerNyx> I wonder why that is.
[04:36] <Tzion_Petter> "Still hung. Over." replied the KKK member being asked about the condition of the nigger over his 2 way radio.
[04:36] <IamTrying> How do i black list xhci_hcd ? this is flooding my system and crashing
[04:38] <IamTrying> How can i black list "xhci_hcd" and use "ehci_hcd" ? Please? Its crashing my system for this.
[04:47] <zykotick9> SinnerNyx: while it easy for a 64bit CPU to use either 32 or 64 bit, i don't think a 32bit cpu is capable of booting a 64bit kernel... are you sure you don't have your boxes mixed up?
[04:48] <SinnerNyx> zykotick9: I'm wondering that exact thing. How would I be able to check which linux is going?
[04:48] <SinnerNyx> *running
[04:49] <zykotick9> SinnerNyx: you can use "cat /proc/cpuinfo" to see the cpu info seen by the kernel.  to see "which linux", do you mean distro or architecture wise?
[04:49] <SinnerNyx> architecture of course. Sorry about being unclear.
[04:50] <Anonynimity> hey, I have an interesting question...
[04:50] <zykotick9> SinnerNyx: "uname -a" shows kernel info, while "dpkg --print-architecture" will show userland.
[04:50] <AlexandreMBM> Anonynimity, what?
[04:50] <Anonynimity> does anyone know of any software programs that will help delete someone from the internet?
[04:50] <whiptail> lol
[04:51] <Anonynimity> no really, I know there are software programs that do this...
[04:51] <Anonynimity> http://www.wikihow.com/Delete-Yourself-from-the-Internet
[04:51] <whiptail> Anonynimity, Do you mean help gain privacy
[04:51] <Anonynimity> no whiptail.
[04:51] <SinnerNyx> Very strange. I don't understand how it could have beeen reversed like this...
[04:51] <Anonynimity> to remove all personal public and private data about a person from the internet
[04:57] <xmetal> lol
[04:57] <xmetal> wtf
[04:58] <Anonynimity> anyone? please help me...
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, This is ubuntu support that is not a topic here.
[04:58] <Anonynimity> where would I go?
[04:58] <Anonynimity> the reason I ask about software is I'm on an ubuntu machine.
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> so
[04:59] <Anonynimity> so... that said, I think it's appropriate to ask for software suggestions for the ubuntu os in an ubuntu chat room...
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> Anonynimity, from the ubuntu repos yes.
[05:00] <Anonynimity> ok, any suggestions on which repo would have a program like this?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> none
[05:00] <xmetal> that sounds like hacking to me
[05:00] <xmetal> (even IF if could be done)
[05:00] <Anonynimity> roflmao... @ hacking
[05:07] <dfcnvt> How do I get around the script that included sudo in it and I need it to sudo the script?
[05:09] <qin> Anonynimity: take the blue pill... or was it red one?
[05:09] <Anonynimity> qin, I have my reasons.
[05:10] <pfox__> im on a fresh install of 13.04 ubuntu-gnome .. install the ricotz/testing and gnome3 ppas... rebooted and i can't get the login prompt to appear.. the x display starts but then it just hangs.. these errors are in my dmesg: http://ix.io/7SL
[05:10] <pfox__> note that they repeat.. that happened when i kill'd gnome-session (which usually triggers a restart)
[05:10] <qin> dfcnvt: start script with sudo, and use sudo in script; or run script as root with no sudo
[05:12] <Impossible> how do i add a program to my desktop that doesnt show up on applications
[05:13] <Impossible> i can open it in terminal
[05:15] <dfcnvt> qin: Nope, it doesn't work. I su it and became a root. Tried to run a script, it appeared the same message, "Please run this script as an ordinary user. It will acquire root privileges as it needs them via "sudo"."
[05:16] <zykotick9> !ppa > pfox__ be sure to read to warning about unsupported in #debian.  the answer, might be use ppa purge to remove those repos.  does it work?  fixed.  i assume it worked prior to adding those ppas?
[05:17] <zykotick9> s/#debian/#ubuntu/  sorry my bad!
[05:17] <magbo> Greetings, gentlemen. Does 12.04 lts install on a USB stick w/o any tweaks?
[05:17] <whiptail> Yes it does
[05:18] <whiptail> usually
[05:18] <Monsuco> generally, I've had little trouble getting it to run from USB
[05:18] <zykotick9> magbo: install to a USB, or use a USB for install?  either way - yes ;)
[05:18] <dfcnvt> Ah, nevermind I got it working. Thanks anyway.
[05:19] <Monsuco> \help
[05:19] <magbo> zykotick9: having a live image booted and picking a plugged ssd/usb stick in that gui menu then operating on the chosen target as a persistent (not live) environment.
[05:19] <xmetal> hmm i have never used (and ubuntu may be a distro i tryt again) LTS's ... i am curious "what would be the best version (number wise) to get"
[05:19] <dfcnvt> I didn't paid attention to the question it's asking, ie: y for yes.
[05:19] <xmetal> !LTS
[05:20] <xmetal> will LTS versions get updated packages (say updated VLC versions, just as an example) ? (if the repo "database" is refreshed/updated, of course)
[05:20] <xmetal> or am i misunderstanding LTS ?
[05:21] <zykotick9> magbo: i MUCH prefer proper installs onto usb, then using any Live(w persistent) thing.  ya, even grub should be cool with installing onto USB (that used to be a problem!)
[05:21] <failment> hey all, is anyone interested in helping me with a wireless networking issue? :)
[05:22] <zykotick9> failment: just ask the "real" question, and find out ;)
[05:23] <magbo> failment: DATAA ;) If it's about broadcom 4313 I should be able to help :D
[05:23] <xmetal> the only "issue" i have with some distros (I can not say how loosely i am saying "issue" here) is that to get the most updated packages... you have to do a full install every 6 months or so
[05:23] <failment> zykotick9 i'll take your advice. connection to my wireless network sporadically stops working. signal strength is good. connection works fine 100% on my windows laptop :/
[05:23] <Monsuco> quit
[05:24] <magbo> failment: lspci | grep -i network
[05:25] <magbo> xmetal: no. Only security updates.
[05:25] <magbo> ^about VLC
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> is there a safer remote control program like teamviewer for ubuntu?
[05:25] <zykotick9> failment: one more try ;)  this time DON'T include my nick (makes you look like i'm talking/helping you direction, which i'm certainly not yet).  BUT include the following info, that card it is, that driver (if you know), and if it ever worked = in a question to the channel...  best of luck BTW
[05:25] <failment> magbo: it's not broadom. it's intel
[05:25] <whiptail> lotuspsychje, remmina?
[05:25] <xmetal> ah
[05:25] <failment> magbo: it's Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] to be exact
[05:25] <xmetal> well .. that does make sense to me still
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> whiptail: never heard of it mate, lemme lookup tnx
[05:26] <magbo> failment: just paste the output of the command I asked you to perform please.
[05:26] <xmetal> secuity updates for the "older" version (aka LTS version)
[05:26] <failment> magbo: 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[05:26] <xmetal> i ususally wait every 2 or 3 versions THEN update
[05:26] <magbo> xmetal: it's not "older" it's LTS.
[05:26] <xmetal> *upgrade i should say
[05:27] <xmetal> well .. symantecs :P ... i mean 12.04 has been "out longer" than say 13.04 ... older in that sense
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> !info remmina > lotuspsychje
[05:27] <magbo> failment: ok, I don't know a thing about this Wireless controller, you should troubleshoot your problem and share the details. Are you familiar with doing that?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> whiptail: tnx mate looking nicely
[05:28] <whiptail> cool
[05:28] <zykotick9> failment: can i get one more piece of info?  could you run "lspci -vnvn | grep -i 3945ABG" and give me the pciid, it'll look like [168c:001c].  i just want that piece.
[05:28] <dfcnvt> I'm using top program and I typed, "T" to sort the time but I'm unable to sort it in reverse...
[05:28] <dr_willis> dfcnvt:  try shift t >
[05:29]  * dr_willis seem to recall that.. 
[05:29] <dr_willis> dfcnvt:  check out htop also. its more awsomer. :0
[05:29] <dfcnvt> dr_willis: I think I got it.
[05:29] <dfcnvt> ..Alright, i'll use that.
[05:29] <failment> zykotick9: [8086:4222]
[05:29] <dfcnvt> :p aye, it look cool.
[05:30] <magbo> failment: please use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide; you may get some insight about your chip here (please note that it's wiki of another Linux distro, so precise instructions are distro-specific): https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_Setup
[05:30] <dfcnvt> dr_willis: It doesn't reverse... instead, it just pop up left menu to select for sort.
[05:31] <magbo> if you still have any problems, you may proceed to asking here providing sufficient information (via paste.ubuntu.com)
[05:31] <failment> cool. it works most of the time, but seemingly randomly it disconnects
[05:31] <zykotick9> failment: that's odd, i'd expect that to work OOTB in supported ubuntu versions.  FYI this is debian's output (remember ubuntu will typically have BETTER hardware support then debian, due to newer package versions of basically... everything.  anyways:  [8086:4222] is 'PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel', 'iwl3945' in wheezy.
[05:32] <magbo> failment: have you looked into dmesg?
[05:32] <dfcnvt> Anybody have an idea how to monitor what is currently executing and running?
[05:33] <xubuntu1310> Uhh, I think gparted ruined one of my partitions.. i selected a swap to delete, then checked... and now it says  it can't find superblock
[05:33] <failment> mago: nope, don't know what that is
[05:33] <zykotick9> dfcnvt: if you like terminal, check out top (and the MUCH improved htop)
[05:33] <failment> magbo: i'm still reading the wiki you sent
[05:33] <dfcnvt> zykotick9: I am currently using it... but I couldn't figure out how to paid close attention to what is currently actively running.
[05:33] <magbo> failment: cool. It should mention reading dmesg.
[05:33] <dfcnvt> CPU sort would be the one?
[05:34] <magbo> Anyway, I have a bucket of thumbdrives to pick from a shop, cya gentlemen and zykotick9, you're awesome!
[05:34] <zykotick9> dfcnvt: you can sort by the different categories, FYI i typically turn off the showing of threads in htops options, cuts down on a lot of clutter.
[05:34] <magbo> zykotick9: We lack people like you in ArchLinux community :)
[05:34] <dfcnvt> I have a script that is downloading a heavy load of different type of setting/program.. It doesn't very much show me more information of what's going on in the background.
[05:35] <Andrea_Avea> Hi guys! newbie here with Ubuntu! question....... i have 2 hard drives one is windows 7 and one is Ubuntu Server 12.04. when i hooked up the two hard drives, only one is booting up. there's no splash screen for me to pick which OS i am going to use. please advise if this is possible
[05:35] <dfcnvt> zykotick9: what command that disabled the thread of it?
[05:35] <zykotick9> magbo: don't get OT ;)  or pull me into it.  (fyi, i'm not an arch fan, sorry)
[05:35] <dfcnvt> Assuming it's d?
[05:35] <zykotick9> dfcnvt: htop's has an options screen.
[05:36] <whiptail> Andrea_Avea, do you have a bios quick boot menu option
[05:36] <xmetal> i'd assume you need to install grub to the MBR of the first hdd
[05:36] <xmetal> brb
[05:37] <dfcnvt> zykotick9: I see it, just pressing F2 to set up.
[05:37] <Apachez> oh noes, Palo Alto är antisemitiska =)
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[05:37] <Andrea_Avea> whiptail : yes. when i installed Ubuntu Server grub2 has been installed
[05:38] <zykotick9> dfcnvt: then "Display options"  then select "Hide kernel threads" and/or "Hide userland threads"
[05:38] <failment> Apachez: there's an ISP called Palo Alto Networks that isn't in the US?
[05:38] <whiptail> Andrea_Avea, some machines have an option to select which device to boot from with a key like F8, if you don't want to mess with configs id go that route selecting the primary slave or whatever your second hard drive is
[05:38] <xmetal> back
[05:39] <Snowie> howdy all. is there a similar simple way to use xbox360 controller for the desktop gui as there is here
[05:39] <Snowie> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Joystick#Xbox_360_controllers
[05:40] <dr_willis> Snowie:  i imagine a lot of the same things from the archlinux wiki could apply to most linux disrtos.
[05:40] <Andrea_Avea> whiptail : i just have two sata ports.  sata1 and sata2. whichever hard drive is connected to sata1 bios is reading it first.
[05:41] <dr_willis> Snowie:  check askubuntu.com to see if theres some ubuntu specific info on doing it
[05:42] <whiptail> Andrea_Avea, which os boots up
[05:42] <dfcnvt> zykotick9: In Active Columns, what do you have in your custom list?
[05:42] <Andrea_Avea> whiptail : the one connected to sata1 port
[05:42] <whiptail> Andrea_Avea, yes, windows 7 or Ubuntu
[05:43] <xmetal> i agre ... i understand what distro's room i am in now, though so many issue can be "cross-distro" if you ask me .. some helpers can seem picky
[05:43] <xmetal> if say someone isn't using the distro the room is for
[05:43] <xmetal> agree too
[05:46] <bucharim> Hi there
[05:46] <bucharim> I just want to install 13.04 desktop version 32bit
[05:46] <bucharim> to my notebook via wubi.exe
[05:47] <bucharim> but I kept stucks on the status while installation need to download torrent file for ubuntu iso
[05:47] <bucharim> is there any chance I can skip that steps?
[05:47] <xmetal> i almost used wubi to try to install mint on other laptop, but gave up
[05:47] <bucharim> what happened?
[05:47] <xmetal> (that laptop is having hardware issues.. and wubi was a "last resort" method)
[05:48] <bucharim> oic
[05:48] <dr_willis> bucharim:  i would suggest giving up on wubi.
[05:48] <bucharim> so you're suggesting me to install it from DVD/CD rite?
[05:48] <xmetal> i wanted to see how elightenmint or lxde on that laptop
[05:48] <bucharim> ic
[05:48] <xmetal> (old hardware)
[05:48] <xmetal> er
[05:48] <xmetal> how those DE's DID on that laptop *
[05:49] <Andrea_Avea> whiptail : i am back. sorry
[05:49] <dfcnvt> I'm trying to figure out the usefulness in htop for active columns.. So far, I reduce to this, "PID, USER, PERCENT_CPU, PERCENT_MEM, TIME, Command"
[05:49] <whiptail> Andrea_Avea, if in ubuntu try sudo update-grub
[05:49] <Andrea_Avea> whiptail : what's your answer? i missed it
[05:49] <dr_willis> bucharim:  wubi is fragile. easialy breaks.. and basically is  being phased out
[05:49] <whiptail> Andrea_Avea, I asked about which os started first windows or ubuntu
[05:49] <xmetal> as i said i wouldn't want to use wubi, but it was a last resort
[05:49] <xmetal> for me anyway
[05:49] <xmetal> on THAT PC
[05:49] <Artemis3> xmetal, try lubuntu and bodhi linux for each, with a thumbdrive you can test them live without deleting anything
[05:51] <Andrea_Avea> whiptail : when i connected win7 on sata1 port and on sata2 is Ubuntu, win7 booted up and vice versa
[05:52] <xmetal> ok,. i am confused
[05:54] <Artemis3> xmetal, also, about LTS getting updated packages, yes indeed, with PPAs :)
[05:57] <dfcnvt> Cool, it showed me which program is currently on the cpu core. (note: i have 8 core cpu)
[05:58] <xmetal> i am honest i am not sure how picky it is, though wouldn't grub on the MBR of the first HDD "be able to see" the other OS (Win7) on the other hdd?
[05:58] <xmetal> i think my "multi hdd setup" has Mint and Slackware on the same hdd though
[05:58] <xmetal> the other hdd i use for data
[05:59] <dongxin> hello
[06:00] <xmetal> hmm .. suddenly got the munchies
[06:00] <crshbdnct> heya chaps
[06:01] <crshbdnct> does anyone know if it is possible to use X only in 13.10 with free drivers? i.e. how to enable X as the default session?
[06:03] <dr_willis> X  as a session? clarify what you mean
[06:03] <dr_willis> 13.10 starts up X for the gui.
[06:03] <dongxin> quit hav
[06:08] <dongxin_> 有人能看到我说话吗，第一次用，不会用
[06:08] <whiptail> no
[06:09] <dongxin_> yes
[06:09] <paulkon> what's the standard way to handle DoS?
[06:09] <statyk> how can I remove an empty windows partition and add the space to my linux or extended partition
[06:09] <crshbdnct> dr_willis: it doesnt start up Mir or XMir by default?
[06:09] <nerdtron> paulkon, can't you block the IP?
[06:09] <histo> paulkon: drop packets from them
[06:10] <whiptail> statyk, delete it in gparted
[06:10] <dr_willis> crshbdnct:  it depends on the specific release/variant and your hardware. the mir wiki page details this. and  13.10 support is in #ubuntu+1  On my nvidia system  it does not use xmir by default
[06:10] <paulkon> yeah, but is there a recommended program for doing that or should I check all packets myself
[06:10] <paulkon> like a firewall
[06:10] <histo> !ufw | paulkon
[06:11] <yigal> u fn wan a firewall ufw
[06:12] <dongxin_> Can you see my words?
[06:12] <whiptail> yes
[06:12] <yigal> dongxin_: no
[06:12] <yigal> dongxin_: not at all
[06:12] <paulkon> so after X requests within Y timespan I just issue ufw with the culprit's IP and I can block it. is that the simplest way?
[06:12] <yigal> dongxin_: what encoding are you using?
[06:12] <dongxin_> oh~
[06:12] <xmetal> no we cant
[06:12]  * xmetal sighs
[06:13] <paulkon> thx though
[06:13] <crshbdnct> dr_willis: on my hardware it does start it by default. is there a way to tell it not to?
[06:14] <yigal> paulkon: possibly it depends on the ruleset
[06:14] <yigal> paulkon: as far as I can tell as ufw is following iptables rules the first rule wines over anything else added
[06:14] <yigal> s/wines/wins
[06:15] <zykotick9> paulkon: depending on the service(s) you are running, i'd STRONGLY suggest you look into fail2ban, which can automatically firewall block people trying to "break in" to various services automatically - it' very handy.
[06:15] <dongxin_> aergjeriogjregioherognerogheripgher
[06:15] <yigal> fail2ban is a nice piece of software just be careful not to ban yourself :)
[06:15] <yigal> dongxin_: fasdfsdfucskdfkU
[06:16] <yigal> dongxin_: remove everything other than c f k u U
[06:16] <paulkon> zykotick9: whoa, this is exactly it!
[06:17] <afreen> mitch:
[06:17] <paulkon> sweet, I can use this to block the ip across the entire cluster then too
[06:17] <paulkon> thanks!
[06:17] <dongxin_> 我不会啊。。
[06:18] <yigal> dongxin_: I understand you don't understand, that is what is unfortunate
[06:19] <IdleOne> yigal: mind your language please
[06:20] <dongxin_> are you chiese?
[06:20] <IdleOne> !cn | dongxin_
[06:20] <yigal> IdleOne: ty sir
[06:21] <yigal> dongxin_: I'm sorry sir I can't speak Chinese, and can't assist you
[06:21] <NedsFlam> Hey all. I am trying to install xserver-xorg-video-dummy but it fails to install saying that I have unmet dependencies and it is unable to correct the problems. That I have broken packages
[06:21] <NedsFlam> What should I do?
[06:22] <yigal> NedsFlam: give us a pastie
[06:22] <yigal> NedsFlam: of the broken stuff
[06:22] <dongxin_> why can you read Chinese?
[06:22] <NedsFlam> yigal: "the broken stuff" I don't understand. Do you want the output from the terminal?
[06:23] <yigal> NedsFlam: yes
[06:23] <NedsFlam> yigal: ok hold on
[06:23] <yigal> NedsFlam: that's the only way we'll be able to provide support
[06:23] <yigal> NedsFlam: cool
[06:23] <yigal> 谷歌是伟大的！
[06:23] <The-Compiler> Hi! I'm trying to compile my own minimal kernel, but now my USB keyboard and mouse don't work in X. They work perfectly fine in the TTY. In my Xorg.0.log I only see something related to the mouse: 'config/udev: Adding input device HP HP USB Laser Mouse (/dev/input/mouse0)' / 'No input driver specified, ignoring this device.'
[06:24] <IdleOne> !google | yigal
[06:24] <NedsFlam> yigal: pastebin.com/zN0qTT4i
[06:24] <IdleOne> !guidelines | yigal Please read the guidelines to avoid any more issues
[06:26] <dongxin_> Oh, the original is the use of Google
[06:26] <NedsFlam> yigal: did you get that?
[06:27] <dongxin_> !list
[06:27] <IdleOne> NedsFlam: have you ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[06:28] <NedsFlam> idleone: no
[06:28] <dongxin_> sorry,I don't know.
[06:28] <IdleOne> NedsFlam: you probably have some packages being held back, try running that command
[06:28] <NedsFlam> IdleOne: thanks
[06:30] <NedsFlam> IdleOne: it didn't work
[06:30] <NedsFlam> IdleOne: i ran the upgrade. the install for the new package failed though
[06:30] <IdleOne> NedsFlam: that is vague, how did it not work?
[06:31] <NedsFlam> IdleOne: in the same way that it failed in the paste I sent earlier
[06:31] <IdleOne> NedsFlam: pastebin the new output please
[06:31] <zykotick9> NedsFlam: using paste.ubuntu.com will get at least, 2 more eyes looking at it ;)
[06:31] <NedsFlam> IdleOne: pastebin.com/kaRBL8RK
[06:32] <zykotick9> doh.
[06:32] <NedsFlam> zykotick9: too late x)
[06:32] <IdleOne> NedsFlam: I need the output of sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:32] <NedsFlam> IdleOne: it ran just fine
[06:32] <IdleOne> did it install anything when you ran that?
[06:32] <NedsFlam> IdleOne: yes
[06:33] <NedsFlam> IdleOne: want the output?
[06:33] <IdleOne> please
[06:34] <NedsFlam> IdleOne: paste.ubuntu.com/6069275
[06:35] <IdleOne> NedsFlam: ok, try sudo apt-get -f install
[06:35] <IdleOne> the -f attempts to fix any broken packages
[06:35] <NedsFlam> 0 newly installed, etc. 0 everything
[06:35] <zykotick9> IdleOne: is anything broken?  that dist-upgrade looks complete to me?
[06:35] <dongxin> NedsFlam, ..
[06:35] <NedsFlam> dongxin: yes?
[06:35] <IdleOne> zykotick9: looks good to me too but the -f wont hurt anything so worth a shot
[06:36] <theorem> if I am having a problem with the installer, can I ask questions here for Ubuntu 13.04 Desktop ?
[06:36] <NedsFlam> IdleOne: Should I try to run it again? The install?
[06:36] <IdleOne> NedsFlam: first try sudo apt-get -f install
[06:36] <IdleOne> See if that fixes anything/completes without errors
[06:36] <NedsFlam> IdleOne: nothing
[06:36] <theorem> I have gone through a debug mode install to capture as much information as possible.
[06:37] <zykotick9> NedsFlam: i still don't know what's wrong... your first paste i wouldn't go to, and that dist-upgrade is successful.  what are you doing?
[06:38] <dongxin> yes
[06:38] <NedsFlam> zykotick9: why wouldn't you go to it? Want me to paste it in the ubuntu paste?
[06:38] <The-Compiler> hm, problem solved, I had CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV disabled :)
[06:38] <zykotick9> NedsFlam: if you want me to see it.  pastebin.com is not a site i'll vist.
[06:39] <NedsFlam> zykotick9: paste.ubuntu.com/6069279
[06:40] <zykotick9> NedsFlam: what is xserver-xorg-video-dummy for?  i've never used it.
[06:40] <NedsFlam> zykotick9: booting ubuntu without a monitor
[06:41] <zykotick9> NedsFlam: what's the output of "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-dummy"?
[06:42] <NedsFlam> zykotick9: paste.ubuntu.com/6069283
[06:43] <zykotick9> NedsFlam: ummm, that's coming from default precise (supported LTS)... i got nothing... i'd check for bugs on launchpad (if i where you, i haven't/won't).  best of luck.
[06:44] <NedsFlam> zykotick9: thanksanyway
[06:44] <zykotick9> NedsFlam: sorry...
[06:44] <NedsFlam> zykotick9: its fine man lol. I'll figure something out
[06:46] <zykotick9> NedsFlam: fyi/sidenote why i don't go to pastebin.com is well explained in a debian dpkg factoid: <dpkg> pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads.  Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/
[06:47] <zykotick9> NedsFlam: just substitue http://paste.ubuntu.com/ here ;)
[06:49] <NedsFlam> zykotick9: Ill keep that in mind
[06:54] <NuSuey> are the open source drivers for amd/ati really so good? with the other additional drivers I couldn't use my hybrid card .. now I can use the normal card + output from the internal :o woo
[06:55] <theorem> instyead of downloading the minimal installation, how can I use a command line installer to install the live CD ?   there seems to be some problem mounting my destination drive
[06:55] <dr_willis> theorem:  im not sure you can do  it that way.
[06:56] <theorem> only for installation purposes, I can easily use cfdisk and mke2fs on it, so there must be something wrong with the installer.
[06:56] <theorem> dr_willis: I have logs of this stuff, not sure why it's failing.
[06:56] <Nock> ef
[06:56] <dr_willis> partion, and format them as you want, and ive rarely had issues  with them  not mounting.. unless its trying to mount somting you allready got mounted
[06:57] <dr_willis> id partion, format, and get them set, then reboot the installer cd. and then see if it is ok with you just assigning mount points to the filesystmes. and not even formating them
[06:57] <theorem> dr_willis: yeah, I tried that it still can;t mount for some reason.
[06:58] <theorem> error is this :
[06:58] <dr_willis> perhaps check the forums and askubuntu.com also, there maybe a known issue
[06:58] <theorem> the attempt to mount a filesystem with type ext4 failed
[06:58] <theorem> shitty error message
[06:59] <theorem> yeah, already have
[06:59] <a316kulj> ppo
[06:59] <theorem> followed those directions -- removed a bunch of packages ... but I didn;t know if that was the problkem to begin with
[07:03] <helmut_> hi
[07:03] <n0ps> hello
[07:03] <Nock> .
[07:03] <Nock> can you see my words?
[07:04] <n0ps> yes can you see mine?
[07:04] <Nock> no
[07:04] <n0ps> ha ok
[07:05] <Nock> n0ps, where are you?
[07:08] <afreen> hey frnds
[07:08] <afreen> i have one quesry
[07:08] <afreen> query
[07:08] <afreen> plzz
[07:08] <zykotick9> Nock: it doesn't matter where n0ps is... keeping this many people in one channel, means people "need" to say on one topic, ubuntu support.  the ops are kept very busy here.  it's no place for "chit-chat", feel free in #ubuntu-offtopic however.
[07:08] <afreen> help me
[07:08] <aeon-ltd> afreen: just ask in one line, in the future don't flood
[07:08] <zykotick9> afreen: all on one line - ask a question.
[07:08] <n0ps> can i get a cloak
[07:09] <zykotick9> !cloak | n0ps
[07:09] <n0ps> sweet thanks.
[07:09] <afreen> i am trying to paste the images or charts from libreoffice to thunderbird
[07:09] <n0ps> is there any way to delete old nicks or change the password if i have forgotten in>
[07:09] <n0ps> ?**
[07:10] <afreen> but in thunderbird , paste optin is greyed in
[07:10] <zykotick9> n0ps: for freenode questions, ask in #freenode ;)
[07:10] <n0ps> k. thanks again
[07:10] <afreen> any one suggest me hw to to enable that paste option in thunderbird fr images
[07:10] <afreen> plzzz help
[07:11] <afreen> i m in deadline
[07:11] <afreen> any clue or hint
[07:11] <afreen> i m trying last 15 days
[07:11] <afreen> bt i didnt get
[07:11] <afreen> soltuion
[07:12] <wilee-nilee> afreen, Generally you have to have images in an attachment.
[07:13] <afreen> no i have images in libreoffice impress slides i m directly ciopy from impress slides to thunderbird
[07:13] <wilee-nilee> afreen, A copy and paste with a jpg here just shows the file name a drag and drop shows the picture.
[07:13] <afreen> i dnt wan tany attachment
[07:14] <afreen> no i also tried drag and drop
[07:14] <afreen> bt its nt working
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> afreen, what is the image type?
[07:15] <roninn> why is bash tilde expanded to home directory in ubuntu
[07:16] <roninn> ~/ -> /home/
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> roninn: because that's what it's short for
[07:17] <roninn> but it's not used to be earlier times?
[07:17] <zykotick9> roninn: s/ubuntu/unix_like_environments/  -> ~ is pretty standard at this point...
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> afreen, there is a thunderbird channel listed here. https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> roninn: i think in every unix based os it is
[07:18] <aeon-ltd> roninn: just tried it now in osx
[07:18] <dr_willis> ~ for home has been standard shortcut for like. err decades?
[07:20] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis: roninn the first true 'old school' nix user?
[07:21] <dr_willis> i used sun workstations back in the 80's  ;)
[07:21] <dr_willis> and minix and cpm a bit. ;P
[07:21] <roninn> aeon-ltd, I haven't used Linux too much yes ;)
[07:30] <Oxymoron> Does someone use monodevelop here?
[07:30] <afreen> listen friends, i have designed libreoffice impress slides use charts on it
[07:31] <afreen> when i tried to copy paste in thunderbird
[07:31] <afreen> so that paste option in thunderbird is diabled
[07:32] <sqlnoob> Any idea why my slider is not clickable. I've to select the slider button and then use it to navigate. I just can't make a click to change the slider position. Any idea?
[07:33] <dr_willis> sqlnoob:  in what app?
[07:33] <sqlnoob> it happens in totem & volume control
[07:34] <sqlnoob> Not sure if the issue is system-wide
[07:42] <nathanbz> whoa 12.04 php update ?
[07:42] <nathanbz> anyone know to what version
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> afreen, Have you tried to copy and paste anything else, I suspect it is the image type.
[07:43] <afreen> dear, i have design slide in libre office impress in this is used charts
[07:43] <afreen> that chart i m trying to copy paste
[07:44] <afreen> it is copy frm impress slide bt nt pasting in thunderbird
[07:44] <IamTrying> How can i black list "xhci_hcd" and use "ehci_hcd" ? Why is it flooding my system and crashing my system??? Does 13.04 64-bit has fixed this issue?
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> right, you say the paste is disabled are you sure have you tried any others pastes, maybe the one your using just does not.
[07:46] <IamTrying> What will happen if i go from 12.04 to 13.04 with my encoders/decoders compatibility ?? Is the xhci_hcd bug removed in 13.04 ??
[07:46] <jwuorinen> Why does XChat freeze when opening channel list? Tried to google it with no luck..
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> I doubt thunderbird has the code to use that image, if it's from impress
[07:48] <zykotick9> jwuorinen: try using alis ("/msg ubottu alis" for details) instead of list.
[07:49] <zykotick9> jwuorinen: sidenote: use *foo* which is weird for me, it's not like grep ;)
[07:50] <wilee-nilee> jwuorinen, try #xchat maybe
[07:51] <jwuorinen> Okay, thanks, I'll look into it :)
[07:53] <IamTrying> Why Ubuntu crashing while using OpenVPN Access server for IPSec tunnel?
[07:58] <IamTrying> OK - Using 13.04 with cross finger. Hope it does not start dependency drama for all my encoder/decoders from 12.04
[07:59] <Dr_Willis_> what encoder/decoderx are you talking about?
[07:59] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, x264 encoder/ffmpeg decoder and faac / faad codecs
[07:59] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, vp8 and opus
[08:00] <Dr_Willis_> IamTrying:  i dont see why there should be any problems with them at all
[08:01] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, i want to install 13.04 64-bit for my embedded machine. so that i can support the hardware drivers but i need to upgrade my remix ubuntu with 13.04
[08:01] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, i need to keep my encoder/decoders same version as it was in 12.04
[08:01] <Dr_Willis_> IamTrying:  versions differnacne may be a big issue. but i dont see why the vesions would matter.
[08:01] <Dr_Willis_> !pin
[08:02] <Dr_Willis_> it will want to upgrade to the latest in the new release
[08:03] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, but if i do all the encoder/decoder to latest release then all my 100 old encoder/decoders will not work
[08:03] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, i have to keep 13.04 but with my remix ubuntu on it
[08:03] <Ben64> why not just use the newer kernel in 12.04?
[08:03] <Dr_Willis_> i dont quite get how you are using the term 'all my 100 old encoder/decoders'  that dosent make much sence to me IamTrying
[08:04] <IamTrying> Ben64, did not worked tried with 3.8
[08:04] <Ben64> then why would 13.04 work
[08:04] <Dr_Willis_> ffmpeg reencodew the video or whatever.. it shouldent really matter the ffmpeg version
[08:04] <zykotick9> to whoever just posted the !pinning factoid, if you use or require pinning, i'd personally say, you are using the wrong package strategy...
[08:04] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, i have embedded hardware with remix ubuntu 100 users (Government, Hospital, Train station, Airport users)
[08:04] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, in those enterprise i am using my 100 boxes of remix ubuntu
[08:05] <Dr_Willis_> I think you need to clarify a bit more.. and im not sure that 'ubuntu remix' is a supported disrto by this channel if thats what you mean by 'remis x buntu'
[08:05] <Dr_Willis_> i still dont see what using a newer ffmpeg would matter.
[08:06] <Ben64> and if you don't want to mess with 100 boxes, LTS seems like the best solution
[08:07] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, customers are over VPN some are in another country some has lan network only, some is more restricted. All of them upgrading is a mess with my remix ubuntu encoder/decoder.
[08:08] <MKCoin> is there a separate channel to discuss Mir?
[08:08] <MonkeyDust> MKCoin  #ubuntu-mir, 70 people there
[08:08] <MKCoin> thank you.
[08:09] <Dr_Willis_> IamTrying:  it seems like you are just tossing in the term 'encoder/decoder' at random here..   what exactly do you mean by 'remix ubuntu encoder/decoder'
[08:09] <Dr_Willis_> perhaps someone else has a beter guess what IamTrying  is meaning
[08:09] <Dr_Willis_> it is 3 am here. ;)
[08:10] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, Remix Ubuntu means like my own operating system of Ubuntu in a my way.
[08:10] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, like DJ/Remix different face of Ubuntu
[08:11] <Dr_Willis_> i think you would be beeter off saying 'my customized ubuntu'  then.
[08:11] <Dr_Willis_> its still not clear what you customized.
[08:11] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, Embedded VPN in Chrome
[08:12] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis_, so that the box can break any network and do multi-media
[08:14] <ikonia> how does this relate to supported ubuntu releases ?
[08:14] <ikonia> as I read this is a custom ubuntu spin
[08:16] <IamTrying> ikonia, it is, cause before remix i am using Original Ubuntu official live CD's 12.04 and 13.04
[08:17] <dr_willis> so if i start with an 12.04  setp and remove 90% of it and install my own custome stuff... it should be supported here?  then again. the actual question you are asking is rather vague.
[08:17] <dr_willis> i think there may be a bit of a language barrier going on
[08:17] <ikonia> IamTrying: yes...then you remix/mod it
[08:18] <ikonia> IamTrying: hence "not supported releases"
[08:18] <IamTrying> dr_willis, no that is not what happening, here the question is asked for official 12.04 and 13.04 cause i have 2 PC one with not touched
[08:18] <IamTrying> ikonia, I respect and follow the rules/regulation sir.
[08:19] <ikonia> IamTrying: hang on, you've from 200 remix machines having this problem, to "I say this isn't supported" now you're saying it's on "non-remix" machines
[08:19] <IamTrying> This USB issue is still exist in 13.04 Fresh copy crashing my system.
[08:19] <dr_willis> perhaps you shoudl re-original  question. with out all the extra clutter?
[08:19] <dr_willis> re-ask the original question. ;)
[08:19] <IamTrying> 13.04 original fresh copy from ubuntu site downloaded and installed - but crashing in 77" inch large LCD Sony screen.
[08:20] <IamTrying> ^ real Ubuntu issue (nothing with remix or so)
[08:20] <killer> hey
[08:21] <killer> I manually added some man page to /usr/share/man/man1 ,now how can i update mandb (to update man pages)
[08:22] <roninn> if I want to give a user permissions to a directory /usr/local/bin, do I give them by chowning the dir root:user and then chmod 775
[08:23] <IamTrying> ikonia,  Why Ubuntu change the stable version also? Is it like known issue? 12.04 was stable but then it puts in the website new kernels on it. Is this normal?
[08:23] <ikonia> "website new kernels" ? change the stable version of what ?
[08:23] <IamTrying> 12.04 long time ago i downloaded it had kernel 3.2 and now the same url or same website linking to 3.8 or so
[08:24] <cfhowlett> IamTrying, 12.4.3 you mean?
[08:24] <Ben64> then download 12.04.0 iso and try that
[08:24] <Ben64> cfhowlett: you're missing a 0
[08:24] <dr_willis> roninn:  a user really shouldent have or need write permissions to the system directories
[08:24] <IamTrying> cfhowlett, yes the one with 3.2.0.17 kernel
[08:25] <cfhowlett> IamTrying, the 12.04 is available.  get it.  or use the latest point release: 12.04.3
[08:25] <ikonia> IamTrying: 12.04 is long term support, and one of the things that ubuntu (rightly/wrongly) are trying to do is maintain that better which includes bring the kernel up to date with the current distribution
[08:25] <IamTrying> OK - cfhowlett
[08:26] <dr_willis> the old kernels are all still in the repos however arent they? ive not noticed them being removed
[08:26] <IamTrying> ikonia, 12.04 is very weired from official website of ubuntu i got few months ago old kernel and now its no where available
[08:26] <kimda> Hello. I have setup kvm on Debian with a Ubuntu 12.04 vm. This morning I could not connect to the kvm client (ping/ssh). After I connected to the host machine and then went via ssh to the client I could connect again and also ping the client. Any ideas what could be causing this?
[08:26] <ikonia> IamTrying: there is nothing wierd about it, look at the versions 12.04, 12.04.1, 12.04.2, 12.04.3
[08:26] <ikonia> IamTrying: they are different/later releases
[08:26] <srirang> Hi all
[08:26] <zykotick9> !backports
[08:27] <srirang> I am trying to setup wifi hotspot on my ubuntu laptop so that my macbook can connect to it
[08:27] <killer> I need to update man pages in ubuntu as i have added some of my own in /usr/share/man/man1
[08:27] <IamTrying> ikonia, OK thank you, what i noticed since yesterday, the kernel 3.2.0.17 is no where available it was stable one i downloaded once the iso from official website and i dont get it any more.
[08:27] <roninn> dr_willis, not normally yes, but if I want to give the permissions to only one user, should I put chown user:root, or what would be the best way, at least with only chmod it would not be possible since then I would need to change it to 757
[08:27] <srirang> I create a hotspot from the Network Connections in Settings dialog.
[08:27] <ikonia> IamTrying: because it's been updated
[08:27] <IamTrying> ikonia, but that update is completely the update of USB crash
[08:27] <srirang> My macbook can see the wireless network, but when I try to connect it asks me for a WPA username and password
[08:28] <srirang> where as the hotspot is setup to use the simple WPE password
[08:28] <IamTrying> ikonia, since then all the USB is crashing but 3.2.0.17 it never ever crashed like that
[08:28] <srirang> How can I fix this?
[08:28] <IamTrying> and i cant get that kernel anymore !!! how weired
[08:28] <Ben64> IamTrying: yes you can...
[08:29] <ikonia> IamTrying: 1.) stop randomly blaming things unless you KNOW that kernel is the problem 2.) try to actually debug/fix the problem rather than blindly looking for things to blame
[08:29] <blazemore> killer: mandb
[08:29] <dr_willis> Hmm. all the past kernel/versions are still in the repos i thought. Or am i misstaken?
[08:29] <IamTrying> ikonia, WRONG - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1207612 - this was working in 3.2.0.17
[08:30] <ikonia> IamTrying: what am I wrong about ?
[08:30] <IamTrying> ikonia,  no the link is wrong referencing to latest kernel
[08:30] <Ben64> IamTrying: if you're so sure its the kernel, download an earlier image of 12.04, or install the old kernel
[08:30] <cfhowlett> IamTrying, that bug report is for ubuntu 13.10 NOT 12.04
[08:30] <dr_willis> 'fix released' there should be a round of  updates that fix the issue
[08:30] <ikonia> IamTrying: what are you talking about ??? you're last sentence makes no sense to anything I've said
[08:30] <IamTrying> ikonia,  that issue was working in 3.2.0.17-generic kernel and people are referencing to move to latest
[08:31] <ikonia> IamTrying: what issue ???
[08:31] <blazemore> IamTrying: I thought yesterday you updated your kernel from the mainline PPA?
[08:31] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[08:31] <ikonia> this all smells of untruth
[08:32] <IamTrying> blazemore, i did and the bug continues, then i went back to old kernel 3.2.0.17 which worked but again that has nvidia graphics problem then again i need to compile kernel to have xhci_hcd as moduler
[08:32] <IamTrying> blazemore, its a night mare problem xhci_hcd
[08:32] <IamTrying> 3.2.0.17-generic works great with this xhci_hcd
[08:32] <ikonia> this is random
[08:32] <ikonia> and talk of compling a kernel is pointless at this time
[08:32] <Ben64> IamTrying: if you're so sure its the kernel, download an earlier image of 12.04, or install the old kernel. arguing here does no good
[08:33] <IamTrying> OK
[08:37] <Ben64> roninn: you never need to give a normal user those permissions
[08:37] <kolaman> hi all, is ubuntu 13.04 gnome based or still using unity ?
[08:38] <Ben64> unity
[08:38] <dr_willis> kolaman:  unity is a shell for gnome.. so yes to both parts
[08:38] <dr_willis> its gnome based and using unity. ;)
[08:49] <Monday> is there an app which easily allows you to setup keyboard hotkeys?
[08:49] <blazemore> Monday: Do you mean like recordable macros? Could you give an example?
[08:49] <dr_willis> hotkeys to do what function? gnome has some feature for that
[08:50] <Monday> Lubuntu doesn't have any
[08:50] <blazemore> !lubuntu | Monday
[08:50] <Monday> blazemore, u know
[08:50] <Monday> i*
[08:51] <dr_willis> !info devilspie
[08:52] <Monday> blazemore, the ops are on both channels, so i rather ask this channel than a channel with only 50 people who rarely talk
[08:53] <reisio> rarely? Or well donely? :p
[08:54] <ObrienDave> oh jeez, and I thought my sense of humor was dry LOL
[08:54] <dr_willis> Orly?
[08:55] <ObrienDave> no, o'reilley
[08:55] <nerdtron> !info | nerdtron
[08:55] <nerdtron> !info|nerdtron
[08:55] <nerdtron> !info
[08:56] <dr_willis> !info bash | nerdtron
[08:56] <nerdtron> thnx
[08:56] <nerdtron> I'm new to this special feature of irc
[08:56] <dr_willis> !bot
[08:57] <LinuxGold> !info zsh | LinuxGold
[08:57] <dr_willis> gotta love descriptions that are not real descriptive ;)
[08:57] <dr_willis> !info fish
[08:57] <ObrienDave> real descriptive ;)
[08:58] <dr_willis> so zsh has lots of features.. but fish is friendly!
[08:58] <ObrienDave> all in 5 words or less
[09:00] <jrgiffor1> Hi
[09:00] <blazemore> Hi jrgiffor1
[09:00] <abrkn> i'm struggling with understanding monit. some of my monitored processes show as "Timeout" even though the pidfiles exist and the corresponding process ids exist. what is causing this? what exactly is timing out?
[09:13] <xtriz1> i am installing ubuntu from minimum packages, now what should i install to get unity as my desktop
[09:15] <iceroot_> xtriz1: ubuntu-desktop
[09:15] <iceroot_> xtriz1: which will result in the same as the desktop installation
[09:15] <xtriz1> iceroot_, but current in my desktop i have unity but in that ubuntu-desktop is not installed in the synaptic package manager.
[09:16] <iceroot_> xtriz1: a normal desktop installation has "ubuntu-desktop" installed
[09:16] <xtriz1> so i got bit confused what should i install
[09:16] <xtriz1> xtriz1, i have the  ubuntu 13.04 installed.
[09:17] <iceroot_> xtriz1: ii  ubuntu-desktop                       1.299                   amd64                   The Ubuntu desktop system
[09:17] <iceroot_> xtriz1: that is a default 13.04 installation
[09:17] <MonkeyDust> xtriz1  what desktop do you have now, if not unity?
[09:17] <xtriz1> MonkeyDust, right now i am on unity.
[09:17] <xtriz1> it seems somthing wrong with my desktop than.
[09:18] <iceroot_> xtriz1: dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop
[09:18] <iceroot_> xtriz1: is the line starting with ii?
[09:19] <xtriz1> iceroot_, no package found matching ubuntu-desktop.
[09:19] <xtriz1> i have installed cinnamon so it might due to that ?
[09:19] <MonkeyDust> xtriz1  you have what you want, so what is the issue?
[09:19] <xtriz1> i have unity as well as cinnamon.
[09:19] <iceroot_> xtriz1: then you are not using ubuntu
[09:20] <xtriz1> iceroot_, i am not using cinnamon just installed to check how it looks.
[09:20] <xtriz1> should i remove it ?
[09:20] <iceroot_> xtriz1: what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[09:20] <xtriz1> MonkeyDust, i was confused as i am doing a minimal installation and wated to installed unity so was confused which package to select.
[09:20] <xtriz1> ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> xtriz1  but you say you already are in unity
[09:21] <iceroot_> xtriz1: on the system you have unity installed "dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop" is telling you there is no package with that name?
[09:21] <ObrienDave> xtriz1==> unity installs by default
[09:21] <xtriz1> MonkeyDust, i am in unity on my destkop doing mininal install on laptop.
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> xtriz1  yes, so why do you want to install unity again?
[09:22] <ObrienDave> he wants to install it on the laptop
[09:22] <xtriz1> MonkeyDust, i am install unity on my laptop, right now doing minimal install on laptop.
[09:22] <MonkeyDust> ah, two machines
[09:22] <xtriz1> yeah. ok selecting ubuntu-desktop in synaptic and updating my ubuntu on my desktop.
[09:25] <PinchMe> Hi all, staff suggested asking here for ubuntu project cloak. I'm pinchme at launchpad, so i suppose the cloak should reflect that.
[09:26] <DJones> PinchMe: The normal place to ask about that will be in #ubuntu-irc
[09:26] <PinchMe> ah
[09:32] <SmokingFreak> good morning
[09:36] <nerdtron> SmokingFreak, good evening
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> timeanddate.com ;)
[09:40] <Monday> Richard Stallman Talks About Ubuntu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
[09:41] <Ben64> Monday:  not on topic here
[09:49] <roninn> do you know what this is actually doing http://codepad.org/znMQJnDB
[09:51] <ObrienDave> seems like the code is checking for the latest version of bash
[09:52] <roninn> to run /etc/bash_completion
[09:52] <roninn> yeah
[09:53] <gvo> roninn and runs /etc/bash_completion which turns on some useful completion tricks.
[10:00] <Guest25632> hi
[10:00] <blazemore> Hi Guest25632
[10:01] <Guest25632> if someone wants to install linux over a 50+ PCs in a computer lab, then what is the proper method? installing one by one? or is there any proper way to do it?
[10:01] <Guest25632> blazemore, hi
[10:01] <blazemore> Guest25632: Are the PCs identical?
[10:02] <Guest25632> blazemore, some are identical and some are not
[10:04] <gvo> Guest25632: This is a little dated but may give you a place to start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro
[10:05] <Guest25632> gvo, thanks, let me look at it
[10:05] <blazemore> Guest25632: This is also a little outdated but may be useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/5938/how-can-i-do-mass-installs-on-multiple-computers
[10:06] <Guest25632> blazemore, thanks
[10:29] <nukleuz> Hi. Anyone knows which package I need to compile a C-program using SDL?
[10:30] <zimbo> how can in install web-mode for emacs in ubuntu - can it be installed via apt?
[10:33] <bugtraq> hello evry body
[10:33] <blazemore> nukleuz: Are you getting an error when you try to compile?
[10:33] <elacheche_anis> hey guys, I hav serious probleme here.. I can't run many binarys in the /bin folder.. I tryed file /bin/mkdir and I have this msg /bin/mkdir: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), corrupted program header size, corrupted section header size
[10:34] <blazemore> elacheche_anis: what is the output of the command    grep SELINUX /etc/sysconfig/selinux
[10:35] <blazemore> elacheche_anis: What happens when you try to run /bin/mkdir
[10:35] <elacheche_anis> blazemore, grep is like mkdir, I have the same error for many commands → bash: /bin/grep: cannot execute binary file
[10:36] <blazemore> elacheche_anis: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[10:36] <elacheche_anis> blazemore, bash: /bin/mkdir: cannot execute binary file
[10:36] <elacheche_anis> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[10:36] <elacheche_anis> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
[10:36] <elacheche_anis> DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
[10:36] <elacheche_anis> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS"
[10:36] <FloodBot1> elacheche_anis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:36] <elacheche_anis> ok
[10:36] <blazemore> elacheche_anis: What's the output of "uname -p" ?
[10:37] <elacheche_anis> x86_64
[10:37] <blazemore> When did it start doing this? or is it a clean install?
[10:38] <elacheche_anis> blazemore, this morning all the system was Ok, I don't know what happend
[10:38] <MACscr> i have a bridge setup on my ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS server, but I have no idea why. Any suggestions on how I should look into it? I shouldnt have any sort of virtualization running
[10:38] <MACscr> or even installed
[10:38] <elacheche_anis> I'm using the system since May 2013
[10:38] <blazemore> What's the output of md5sum /bin/mkdir
[10:39] <nerdtron> MACscr, like libvirtd or bridge utils or virtual box installed/
[10:39] <blazemore> Also somebody: should that be the same on all up-to-date 12.04 64-bit systems or was that a pointless question
[10:39] <MACscr> nerdtron: i guess there could be some bridge tools installed, but i dont know why
[10:40] <nerdtron> MACscr, any program you last installed may have a dependency on the package bridge-utils
[10:40] <elacheche_anis> blazemore, 788f202f9c281c81f80961478572deb3
[10:42] <elacheche_anis> blazemore, what can I do?!
[10:44] <siva_> how to install ip messenger in ubuntu
[10:44] <blazemore> siva_: What is ip messenger?
[10:44] <Guest24521> which is used to communicate hosts within a lan environment
[10:45] <blazemore> !info g2ipmsg
[10:45] <afreen> how to use clipboard in ubuntu 12.04 desktop
[10:45] <afreen> ????
[10:46] <blazemore> afreen: Copy things to the clipboard, then the next time you paste, that thing will be inserted
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> afreen  use glipper to see what's on the clipboard
[10:48] <dreker> !list
[10:48] <ASHER1> I syndicate the following:
[10:54] <elacheche_anis> blazemore, I fix it.. I copied, mkdir, grep, touch, chmod from an other server (x64).. But I need to find out why I had that problem.. any idea?
[10:55] <intellectus> I'm using lxde desktop and it won't allow me to drag the desktop icons.  How to move them?
[11:05] <sandris> hey guys
[11:06] <sandris> can anyone tell me what i need to type in terminal to install the scanner driver i have downloaded to my documents folder
[11:08] <cfhowlett> sandris, usually it's sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[11:12] <sandris> getting error  sudo dpkg -i debscangearmp-mg2100series-1.80-1-deb
[11:12] <sandris> dpkg: error processing debscangearmp-mg2100series-1.80-1-deb (--install):
[11:12] <sandris>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:12] <sandris> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:12] <sandris>  debscangearmp-mg2100series-1.80-1-deb
[11:12] <FloodBot1> sandris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:13] <sandris> sorry man
[11:14] <jrib> sandris: are you sure that file exists in your current directory?
[11:14] <sandris> yes the file is saved in my documents folder and this is exact name of the folder.
[11:15] <voltagex> hey, if I have two partitions on a flash drive, will the livecd boot system look on both partitions for the path specified in the persistence-path parameter?
[11:15] <sandris> apologies if i sound dumb but just a starer with pinguy and linux so don't know a lot of it yet
[11:16] <runing_froger> hello
[11:16] <runing_froger> I got problem connected with fvwm. I'm using fvwm to run rdekstop on startup. In my config file in /home/user/.fvwm/.fvwm2rc I added comand : exec rdesktop xx.xx.xx.xx, so when I start fvwm it auto start rdesktrop. My problem is that whole desktop is bigger than this window  with  rdesktop, and when I scroll the screen I can lose the rdesktop window and I need "search" for it. Is there any option to start fvwm with specific resolution?
[11:22] <Luyin> runing_froger: you can give rdesktop the option -g size-in-%-of-monitor-resolution
[11:23] <runing_froger> I dont wanna edit rdesktop options
[11:23] <runing_froger> I rather need solution for fvwm (window manager)
[11:23] <runing_froger> to change fvwm resolutions
[11:24] <runing_froger> to be the same as rdesktop window
[11:24] <runing_froger> it can be done manualy
[11:24] <runing_froger> in config file
[11:28] <Luyin> runing_froger: I don't know about that, sorry
[11:29] <mkoks> hey, I did apt-get install libapache2-mod-python but I have no mod_python.load in /etc/apache2/mods-available.. why?
[11:31] <jrib> mkoks: you sure you want to use mod python?
[11:32] <mkoks> jrib is there other choice if I want to use python for web?
[11:32] <mkoks> jrib and why not?
[11:33] <jrib> mkoks: I would suggest asking #python but I believe most use mod_wsgi or fastcgi
[11:33] <jrib> mkoks: http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/06/modpython-project-is-now-officially.html
[11:33] <thanigai> hello everyone , when play a mp3 or movie sometimes sound output is like robot voice , how can i resolve this issue.
[11:35] <mkoks> jrib thank you for your answers, I will use mod_wsgi
[11:36] <blazemore> thanigai: What Ubuntu version are you using? And what is the model of your laptop/motherboard/sound-card?
[11:37] <thanigai> blazemore 12.03  intel mother board  sir
[11:38] <blazemore> thanigai: What is the output of "cat /etc/issue" ?
[11:38] <thanigai> blazemore: Linux Mint 15 Olivia \n \l
[11:38] <blazemore> !mint
[11:39] <blazemore> thanigai: But as a stopgap measure, running "sudo alsa force-reload" will fix it temporarily when it happens
[11:39] <Nullvoid> hello
[11:39] <thanigai> blazemore: ok thank you sir
[11:39] <blazemore> Hello Nullvoid
[11:40] <namespace> Can somebody do me a favor and visit http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ to tell me if it gives them a 403 error? (That's the page for the moonlight project, not malicious, swear.)
[11:40] <blazemore> namespace: Yes 403 permission error
[11:40] <namespace> Ugh.
[11:40] <namespace> Not sure exactly how to proceed then.
[11:40] <Nullvoid> im trying to reinstall mysql-server but i get this http://pastebin.com/g9KmTm83 i have been googling but i cant figure out why it doesnt work ... http://pastebin.com/g9KmTm83 could please some one help me
[11:41] <auronandace> namespace: isn't moonlight abandoned (no longer developed)?
[11:41] <namespace> I can't find moonlight in the repos, so I guess I have to compile it from source or something? (How do you even package a firefox plugin?)
[11:41] <namespace> Doesn't matter.
[11:41] <blazemore> namespace: What Ubuntu version?
[11:41] <namespace> 12.04
[11:42] <blazemore> namespace: http://mokeke.sytes.net/downloads/linux/Novell_Moonlight/
[11:42] <jrib> namespace: http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
[11:42] <namespace> Love you guys, thanks.
[11:43] <herbaliser> hi i have a question about webmin, i have scheduled a backup using filesystem backup and selected to send mail what is webmin using to send the mail.
[11:43] <jrib> !webmin | herbaliser
[11:44] <blazemore> herbaliser: It uses sendmail, but we don't support webmin in here at all
[11:44] <herbaliser> ok tnx
[11:46] <mkoks> checked out some of the tutorials about using wsgi on ubuntu for python web development.. omg, it looks so sophisticated. Maybe someone can recommend some good tutorials?
[11:46] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:46] <voltagex> mkoks: try #python
[11:47] <voltagex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1159464 sigh
[11:50] <Marlenee> how i setup vhost on my VPS
[11:50] <blazemore> Marlenee: ask #apache
[12:02] <punzilla> Hi
[12:03] <punzilla> I require help with my  python  - I'm getting dependency issues http://paste.ubuntu.com/6070101/
[12:03] <blazemore> !details
[12:04] <blazemore> punzilla: Can you please paste the full command you ran, and the full output?
[12:05] <punzilla> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10, when I try to install packages it ends with an error.
[12:05] <punzilla> I've tried typing in sudo apt-get install -f
[12:05] <punzilla> though there is too much text that appears.
[12:05] <jrib> punzilla: give background details.  How did you get to this state?
[12:06] <blazemore> punzilla: We don't support Ubuntu 13.10 until it's release
[12:06] <blazemore> !+1
[12:06] <punzilla> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6070105/
[12:07] <blazemore> punzilla: Please read the topic of this channel to see the versions of Ubuntu that are supported
[12:07] <punzilla> yeah sure, apologies. Thanks.
[12:07] <darkside_> helllo
[12:09] <m4k> Who developed the ubuntu tour on web site
[12:12] <m4k> Who made the ubuntu online tour
[12:13] <santhosh> hai i want to change my kernel version from 3.8 to 3.5  it is poodible or not
[12:14] <DJones> m4k: I'd be tempted to try asking that in #ubuntu-website or maybe #ubuntu-community-team I can't really think of anywhere else that would be able to answer that
[12:14] <gordonjcp> m4k: the Ubuntu Online Tour team, there are about 30 people in it
[12:14] <gordonjcp> m4k: why?
[12:15] <m4k> Just know it beautiful ;-)
[12:15] <Luyin> santhosh: why do you want to downgrade your kernel?
[12:16] <m4k> santhosh: try to install first 3.5 then remove 3.8 header file then reboot system
[12:17] <m4k> santhosh: take ur own risk
[12:18] <santhosh_> hai
[12:24] <[504]> hi AaaA
[12:24] <[504]> hi AaronDCampbell
[12:25] <[504]> hi aawords
[12:25] <[504]> hi aboutdreault
[12:25] <[504]> ....
[12:25] <viddy> I see a pattern here
[12:25] <[504]> hi |_ocke2
[12:26] <viddy> I think you'll spend quite some time saying hi to everyone seperately
[12:26] <ikonia> you don't need to say "hi" to everyone, there are too many people for that in the channel.
[12:26] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[12:26] <intel_in> hi
[12:26] <intel_in> hello everyone .
[12:26] <Wiz_KeeD> how is it possible that i do gem install bla, and when i do sudo apt-get install gem it says it's to the newest version :\
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> !info gem
[12:27] <[504]> =) i writen for fun
[12:27] <Wiz_KeeD> so it's something else
[12:27] <Hodapp> lotuspsychje: ever used it?
[12:28] <intel_in> we have 2 ubuntu machines. 11.04 . internet was working very well on those for last 9 months. , they have no internet connection. sometime connection comes, sometime goes for hours.
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> Hodapp: no sorry mate, just was curious about package details
[12:28] <intel_in> any suggestions ?
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> !eol | intel_in
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> intel_in: we recommend you install one of the ubuntu versions in topic mate
[12:29] <Wiz_KeeD> !info mailcatcher
[12:30] <intel_in> ubottu-  I have 1 windows machine which connects well on internet, but my ubuntu machines cannot. without internet connection, i dont know how can i do upgrade , thank you
[12:31] <intel_in> lotuspsychje , can u please suggest something.
[12:31] <m4k> intel_in: ubottu not a person it is a machine
[12:32] <intel_in> thanks m4k :)
[12:32] <cfhowlett> intel_in, download the latest ubuntu ISO, make a boot USB, install
[12:32] <intel_in> cfhowlett, that the best solution of course, but i want to know why internet stopped working on 11.04 ubuntu machine.
[12:33] <intel_in> while windows machine are having internet connection from same router.
[12:33] <cfhowlett> intel_in, could be lots of things, but as it's end of life, we won't be supporting here.  sorry.
[12:45] <Nock> !list
[12:45] <ASHER1> I syndicate the following:
[12:46] <Nock> !list
[12:46] <ASHER1> I syndicate the following:
[12:47] <gordonjcp> wow, a !list from someone who isn't Italian!
[12:47] <blazemore> What is ASHER1 ?
[12:47] <gordonjcp> blazemore: looks botlike
[12:48] <simpleuser> Hi there. Since i added a ppa for php5.4, i get this warning : "PHP Warning:  Module 'mcrypt' already loaded" Any idea?
[12:48] <blazemore> simpleuser: If it's not causing problems ignore it, it's only a warning
[12:48] <simpleuser> blazemore, yeah sure... But it's annoying.
[12:49] <blazemore> simpleuser: Your php script is importing a module twice, presumably
[12:49] <enkidu> hello. Anyone have idea, why I have capture stream only on primary soundcard, even while in cable is attached to secondary one?
[12:49] <jrib> gordonjcp: #ubuntu history in the making
[12:50] <simpleuser> blazemore, it tells me anytime. Anytime i use php (when i save a php file, sublime-text gives me the warning, when i use php app/console in Symfony2, it tells me the warning...)
[12:51] <Administrator_> e
[12:52] <gordonjcp> jrib: indeed
[12:52] <gordonjcp> jrib: I've pretty much banned most of Italy from one channel I'm in, because it's just !list !list !list !list !list all the time
[12:52] <blazemore> simpleuser: What's the output of the command "ls /etc/php5/conf.d | grep mcrypt" ?
[12:52] <Impossible> can i ask a lubuntu questin here?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Impossible, yes.  ask
[12:52] <Impossible> i have a dual display bug
[12:53] <simpleuser> blazemore, "20-mcrypt.ini" and "mcrypt.ini"
[12:53] <m4k> impossible. U ask
[12:53] <Impossible> so on my screen i have the same icons twice, like the other smaller notebook display is in the bigger display
[12:53] <blazemore> simpleuser: mv /etc/php5/conf.d/mcrypt.ini /etc/php5/conf.d/mcrypt.extra
[12:54] <Impossible> i try to make the netbook book into my bigger screen everytime i turn it on
[12:54] <Impossible> but it displays like the netbook screen and my monitor
[12:54] <simpleuser> blazemore, i reload the apache server?
[12:54] <blazemore> simpleuser: After you move that file, yes then restart apache
[12:55] <simpleuser> blazemore, Huraaaa! It seems to be working! Thanks so much :)
[12:55] <blazemore> No problem simpleuser
[12:55] <simpleuser> :)
[12:58] <abrkn\> what causes monit to display status "timeout"?
[12:58] <blazemore> !details
[12:59] <uhelp> How do I tell Ubuntu to NEVER USE 802.11n?
[12:59] <abrkn\> (12.04) Monit acknowledges that my process is running (shows cpu usage, etc), but the status is "Timeout". The monit only has check process x with pidfile y start program = stop program =. what exactly is timing out?
[13:00] <uhelp> (I am running 12.04.2 on a Lenovo W530)
[13:00] <blazemore> uhelp: http://technosopher.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/wireless-slow-flaky-crashing-router-intel-6300-6205-5100-6300-chipse/
[13:01] <blazemore> abrkn\: have you tried unmonitoring the service and then monitoring it again?
[13:01] <abrkn\> blazemore: trying now
[13:02] <abrkn\> blazemore: now it's in running. what caused it to enter timeout?
[13:02] <blazemore> abrkn\: I don't know, I found that suggestion on a mailing list archive here https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monit-general/2012-01/msg00002.html
[13:02] <abrkn\> weird. i hope it remains stable, getting so many emails
[13:02] <uhelp> blazemore: thank you ... looking now
[13:06] <Alex_brent> !list
[13:06] <ASHER1> I syndicate the following:
[13:06] <DJones> !list
[13:06] <ASHER1> I syndicate the following:
[13:07] <blazemore> @...telecomitalia.it ;)
[13:07] <gordonjcp> DJones: thank you
[13:09] <DJones> gordonjcp: I saw it before, but didn't connect it with the !list requests
[13:10] <gordonjcp> DJones: it's not just me, right?  There really *is* a disproportionate amount of !list-s from IP addresses in Italy, isn't there?
[13:10] <DJones> gordonjcp: pm ok?
[13:11] <gordonjcp> DJones: sure
[13:11] <gordonjcp> DJones: also it's more of a conversation for #u-ot, I guess
[13:12] <BenyaminL> Heeed: hei
[13:16] <Craig910> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security
[13:16] <Craig910> NSA knows your every little secret
[13:16] <DJones> Probably best for discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:17] <sarig> hello all .. slight issue any thoughts ?
[13:17] <sarig> ubunto server 12. two disks, /dev/sda /dev/sdb, sda is the root primary, sdb is a store drive. sdb was mounted on /srv/share. we had a power outage, reboot the server and now /srv/share contains the root file system ??? so if i mv /srv/share/bin/grep to /srv/share/bin/bugger and do an ls on /bin/ I see bugger and no grep ... very confusing .. any thoughts ?
[13:17] <Craig910> ok
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|sarig,
[13:18]  * sarig Doougghhhh thx
[13:21] <luis-cavour> salve
[13:22] <luis-cavour> !list
[13:25] <dinesh__>  i am developing a project for detecting malware in linux but i am confused with the concepts of malware and viruses
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !virus|vdinesh__,
[13:27] <dinesh__>  i am developing a project for detecting malware in linux but i am confused with the concepts of malware and viruses
[13:27] <cfhowlett> dinesh__, an irc channel isn't the place to get educated on so vast a topic.  consult your local tech book section
[13:28] <dinesh__> how can i access taskstructure of a process
[13:29] <cfhowlett> dinesh__, dude.  if you don't know the basic concepts of of malware and visruses, maybe you're not ready to develop anything just yet.
[13:39] <Aquaword> hi, can i somehow set power management for my laptop? my cpu vent is always spinning (loud a bit)
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !fan
[13:40] <cfhowlett> Aquaword, you should find power management options in your system settings ... not sure exactly as I'm on Xubuntu so a bit different ...
[13:40] <Aquaword> empty page
[13:41] <Aquaword> found some info on ubuntu.com, thx
[13:43] <Bil> 2>&1 /dev/null
[13:44] <pagios> hi
[13:44] <pagios> http://apaste.info/lpde
[13:44] <pagios> is this installed for ubuntu?
[13:44] <pagios> or from source?
[13:45] <blazemore> pagios: Not from source, or dpkg wouldn't know about them
[13:45] <pagios> i see
[13:45] <Bil> blazemore stick to being a learner
[13:45] <blazemore> Bil: Sorry?
[13:46] <phunyguy> Bil: are you being helpful?
[13:46] <pagios> Unpacking php5 (from .../php5_5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8_all.deb) ...
[13:46] <Bil> blazemore if you cant differ from source an package managers
[13:46] <pagios> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[13:46] <pagios> Segmentation fault
[13:46] <pagios> Setting up php5-common (5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8) ...
[13:46] <pagios> Setting up php5-cgi (5.3.10-1ubuntu3.8) ...
[13:46] <FloodBot1> pagios: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:46] <blazemore> Bil: You're right, I have no idea what I'm talking about
[13:47] <pagios> what is this error? http://apaste.info/NXJJ
[13:48] <blazemore> pagios: Can you try running "sudo apt-get update" first?
[13:48] <Bil> blazemore I misread you and pagios conv
[13:48] <phunyguy> pagios, when is the last time you did a `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`?
[13:48] <blazemore> Bil: I know you did :)
[13:48] <pagios> i am running arm
[13:48] <pagios> no dist-upgrade.
[13:48] <phunyguy> ok?
[13:49] <phunyguy> pagios: I don't follow.
[13:49] <pagios> ?
[13:49] <SupYoshi> Hello in need of some help with Ubuntu Server 12.4 and OpenVPN. I went to the OpenVPN channel, and Ive everythign set up correctly. However I still cannot ping my server with the LAN address of it.
[13:49] <phunyguy> why can't you dist-upgrade ?
[13:49] <jjavaholic> can't get the correct brightness set for desktop in compiz
[13:49] <pagios> even with apt-get update i get the same error blazemore
[13:49] <SupYoshi> IP forwarding is enabled and working indeed. but unfortunality its not working as it seems to be.
[13:49] <jjavaholic> before playing around with nvidia: http://imageshack.us/a/img716/9331/yyvo.png
[13:49] <SupYoshi> And the people in OpenVPN are blaming Ubuntu :P
[13:49] <jjavaholic> after: http://imageshack.us/a/img69/4640/gls9.png
[13:50] <blazemore> SupYoshi: Well it's not an openvpn problem so they're right
[13:50] <SupYoshi> blazemore, hai :D
[13:50] <blazemore> SupYoshi: If you can't even get an internet connection to it, OpenVPN won't work
[13:50] <jjavaholic> and what my background wallpaper should look like: http://wallpapers.wallbase.cc/rozne/wallpaper-2263889.jpg
[13:50] <SupYoshi> Ah I can do that ;)
[13:50] <blazemore> SupYoshi: You said you can't ping the server?
[13:50] <jjavaholic> help needed
[13:50] <SupYoshi> I can connect from outside to my OpenVPN server, I get an IP.. (VPN tunnel iP)
[13:50] <SupYoshi> And I can even access network shares on the IP with the VPN tunnel IP
[13:50] <blazemore> Ah OK so the VPN is working
[13:51] <Bil> you cant ping a vpn unless connected as the route doesent exist
[13:51] <SupYoshi> However I enabled IP forwarding so I can access other services on the interal LAN.
[13:51] <blazemore> You need to set up a route for that interface I think
[13:51] <pagios> anyone?
[13:51] <SupYoshi> and ping the server from the interal lan address.
[13:51] <blazemore> pagios: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages
[13:51] <SupYoshi> I think I have done that blazemore inside of the server.conf of openvpn?
[13:51] <grumbel> Is there any way to (auto)mount a device from command line the way Nautilus/Thunar do it? (i.e. the device ending up in /media/{user}/{disk} without manually mkdir/rmdir'ing around
[13:51] <blazemore> SupYoshi: Can you please pastebin the output of the "route" command?
[13:51] <phunyguy> pagios: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:51] <phunyguy> pelase.
[13:52] <phunyguy> please.
[13:52] <phunyguy> pagios: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:52] <phunyguy> PLEASE.
[13:52] <pagios> its an arm machine compatible on that ubuntu only
[13:52] <pagios> i cant upgrade c
[13:52] <Bil> grumbel yes /etc/fstab
[13:52] <phunyguy> pagios that isn't upgrading you to the next release
[13:52] <SupYoshi> blazemore: push "route 192.168.2.0 255.255.255.0"
[13:52] <blazemore> !arm | phunyguy
[13:52] <SupYoshi> ive got that inside my OpenVPN conf.
[13:52] <grumbel> Bil: that's not the way Nautilus/Thunar does it
[13:53] <blazemore> pagios: ^ sorry phunyguy
[13:53] <dns42> hey folks
[13:53] <phunyguy> all good.
[13:53] <dns42> is it possible to define an alternative for a shell session, not system-wide?
[13:53] <Bil> grumbel It is and its the way Linux does it
[13:53] <grumbel> Bil: no
[13:53] <Bil> lol
[13:53] <blazemore> I'm still getting used to the way weechat chooses the first tab completion, it differs from irssi and often catches me out.
[13:53] <grumbel> Nautilus doesn't touch fstab
[13:53] <phunyguy> ahh, quassel picks by last active. :)
[13:54] <Administrator_> how to open the iBus application
[13:54] <pagios> http://apaste.info/34Il
[13:54] <blazemore> What do you mean by alternative for a shell session dns42 ? Could you rephrase or give an example?
[13:54] <Bil> grumbel try Arch or Gentoo learn how an OS works then come back
[13:54] <SupYoshi> blazemore, can you help me in a few minutes? Im brb :) thnx
[13:54] <phunyguy> !arm | pagios
[13:54] <blazemore> Administrator_: ibus-daemon
[13:54] <blazemore> Bil: That's not constructive at all
[13:55] <Bil> blazemore maybe not but he seemed like a troll
[13:55] <jjavaholic> how can I sort the dimness on my desktop: http://imageshack.us/a/img716/9331/yyvo.png
[13:55] <phunyguy> !guidelines | Bil
[13:55] <phunyguy> have a read, bud.
[13:55] <pagios> anyone!?
[13:55] <pagios> http://apaste.info/34Il
[13:55] <phunyguy> pagios, stop that.
[13:56] <blazemore> pagios: Please ask in #ubuntu-arm
[13:56] <phunyguy> pagios: have you asked in #ubuntu-arm ?
[13:56] <grumbel> Bil: I know how the OS works, I want to know how Nautilus/Thunar work
[13:56] <pagios> blazemore: thanks will do
[13:56] <blazemore> grumbel: It will use its own logic to mount the volumes, I suppose you could look at the source code if you were massively interested
[13:56] <guilhermekfe_> does anyone knows where I could possibly get server's monitoring historic? I have a project, and I would like to test if my forecasting algorithm works for this scenario as well
[13:56] <Administrator_> !list
[13:56] <ASHER1> I syndicate the following:
[13:57] <blazemore> DJones: ASHER1
[13:57] <DJones> blazemore: Thanks
[13:57] <phunyguy> !fuse | grumbel
[13:57] <grumbel> blazemore: I don't think it's its own logic, as that logic is shared by Thunar and Nautilus
[13:57] <Bil> grumbel so as I said get under the hood , or learn the basics like fstab , and Ive never looked at the source of Nautilus/Thunar they will get the info from fstab or /proc
[13:58] <blazemore> grumbel: Perhaps I could be more helpful if you explained what you're trying to do?
[13:58] <phunyguy> Bil that isn't true.
[13:58] <phunyguy> See the factoid I posted.
[13:58] <grumbel> blazemore: I am trying to mount devices the way Nautilus/Thunar do it
[13:58] <blazemore> grumbel: Take a look at gvfs I think that's the tech they use
[13:58] <phunyguy> he is looking for fuse-related things.  Not something that requires root.
[13:59] <Bil> phunguy like I said dont know but how I would do it
[13:59] <blazemore> grumbel: gvfs, udev, fuse, these are technologis to research if you want to understand
[13:59] <phunyguy> Bil: ok, well that's not what he asked. :)
[13:59] <grumbel> blazemore: don't think they use that for mounting disk, that's just for virtual userspace file systems
[13:59] <grumbel> blazemore: udiskctl might be the tool I am looking for
[13:59] <phunyguy> grumbel: gvfs is used for USB sticks and the like as well.
[13:59] <phunyguy> hence not having to have root to mount it.
[14:00] <phunyguy> (You need to be part of fuse group)
[14:00] <Bil> phunguy yes it was so I gave an answer. Not officially Ubuntu is it?
[14:00] <Administrator_> how to open the iBus application
[14:00] <blazemore> Administrator_: ibus-daemon
[14:00] <phunyguy> Bil: word of advice, try to be as helpful as possible without sounding mean or condescending.
[14:00] <phunyguy> :)
[14:00] <SupYoshi> blazemore,
[14:01] <SupYoshi> Could you help me out perhaps? Im sure your having a OpenVPN server with Ubuntu ;) probally haha
[14:01] <SupYoshi> Because Im pretty clueless of what I might be doign wrong.
[14:01] <blazemore> I'm afk 10 minutes SupYoshi write out as much information as you think would be helpful
[14:01] <phunyguy> SupYoshi: can you please paste your openvpn config minus vital cert stuff?
[14:01] <phunyguy> !paste | SupYoshi
[14:02] <SupYoshi> Alright, blazemore thanks! tyt!
[14:02] <Guest11539> how to open the iBus application
[14:02] <phunyguy> Guest11539: ibus-daemon
[14:03] <Guest11539> phunyguy, thank you
[14:03] <Bil> open the ibus deamon be more specific please at code level or user?
[14:04] <neyder_> hi there
[14:05] <phunyguy> neyder_: hello
[14:05] <neyder_> phunyguy, :D
[14:05] <phunyguy> neyder_: do you have a support question?
[14:06] <bibi23> hi, ubuntu shows randomly some black screen each time I use it, after like 30 minutes of use, then it freezes on a black screen, and I can't do anything but reboot, I've followed this tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTmZYzaxR_k) but I don't see any "additional drivers" detected, my graphic card is radeon 4670, what can I do?
[14:06] <neyder_> phunyguy, not support, buti'm trying to create a custom desktop session with xfce, so i'mhere if i get some questions
[14:06] <phunyguy> Ask away, neyder_
[14:08] <pagios> http://pastebin.com/jbtfaBn8
[14:08] <neyder_> i have to build a install discwith all of the localization and custom session, some extra packages, do you know how to do that (looking at google but, by the way)
[14:09] <Bil> this is why i hate uni students
[14:09] <marloshouse> i'm curious about root shell (sudo sh)... how come all the up/down arrow ctrl-r command recall stuff doesn't work there?
[14:09] <SupYoshi> blazemore, someone on OpenVPN is helping me out a little ;P
[14:10] <Luyin> marloshouse: are you trying to use commands you've used as non-root user before?
[14:10] <marloshouse> no, i'm trying to recall command i used when i had sudo sh'd
[14:10] <neyder_> marloshouse, better is 'sudo su -l'
[14:10] <marloshouse> ah ha
[14:11] <Bil> marloshouse to recall the last comand use !! or with sudo sudo !!
[14:11] <marloshouse> lovely!  not a big deal, but it was bugging me
[14:11] <marloshouse> thanks
[14:14] <Bil> Question apart from Debian doing it is there any reason why Ubuntu symlinks /bin/sh to dash instead of bash?
[14:15] <SupYoshi> Oh well they seem quiet, so blazemore here is my dilemma: Ive got OpenVPN server working ;) I enabled IPV4 forwarding so everything works and is supposed to be able to ping my local network addresses... or atleast my server box. However this is not possible. I got a flow chart of OpeNVPN. Here: http://pekster.sdf.org/misc/serverlan.png Im stuck at Can you ping the Lan ip of the server. I have
[14:15] <SupYoshi> given my clients a route to the server lan.
[14:16] <adac> If i import a openvpn.conf file in gonem network manager which already contains the keys htne the save button remains grey since I do not have specified the path to the keys.
[14:17] <adac> do i always need the key path, even inf the config file does already include all the keys?
[14:17] <Bil> Question apart from Debian doing it is there any reason why Ubuntu symlinks /bin/sh to dash instead of bash?
[14:17] <SupYoshi> My config files are as following: http://pastebin.com/97CBHLVw - server.conf (openvpn) and i have a  cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward = 1.
[14:18] <phunyguy> !ot | Bil
[14:18] <SupYoshi> However still I am unable to ping the SERVER LAN IP from the VPN. Also here is my client log. http://pastebin.com/EgbC0nWA
[14:18] <phunyguy> adac: I would say yes, you need the full paths.
[14:18] <Bil> phunguy Im asking Ubuntu support
[14:18] <phunyguy> Bil: that is not a support question.
[14:18] <phunyguy> Bil: please take it to offtopic.
[14:19] <Bil> phunguy why does it symlink to dash instead of bash it breaks alot of bash scripts
[14:19] <BluesKaj> phunyguy:  seems on topic to me
[14:20] <Bil> it is on topic
[14:20] <phunyguy> Bil: do you need to know how to fix it?
[14:21] <Bil> phunguy no I dont but others might
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Bil:  sorry I don't know the answer to your question, tho :(
[14:21] <phunyguy> Bil: that is why I said take it to offtopic./
[14:22] <Bil> BlueKaj no worries, thanks for the time.
[14:22] <phunyguy> we aren't here to debate why certain shells should be used or not.
[14:22] <hplc> hi, is there any flavor thats more likely into supporting ATI Radeon 4890?, i cant seem to get it to play along on ubuntu, any reason to why, say, ubuntu studio would be easier to get it running?
[14:22] <viscous123> hello everyone. i am new to the linux system.. actually i am beginning to use it today itself... can u all help me with it
[14:22] <honestly> soo... my resolv.conf says it's managed by resolvconf. I want to config a local domain. where do I put the config for that?
[14:24] <Bil> phunguy its not offtopic its releated to Ubuntu. Most distos symlink to bash not dash. Just because its not a noob question dont mean you cant answer?
[14:24] <phunyguy> !resolvconf | honestly
[14:24] <BluesKaj> honestly:  if you have a version 12.10 and above your resolv.conf is managed by kdesudo kate /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[14:24] <phunyguy> Bil: I am not here to argue with you about that, or argue debian/ubuntu design decisions.
[14:25] <phunyguy> Bil: if you have a specific question regarding something about it that doesn't work, I would be more than happy to help you.
[14:25] <Bil> phunguy fair enough we will leave it at that
[14:25] <BluesKaj> sorry gksudo gedit , honestly
[14:25] <honestly> phunyguy: BluesKaj: awesome, thanks
[14:25] <phunyguy> Bil: with that being said, there is no reason we can't discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:25] <nock> ...
[14:26] <incog> nice dots
[14:26] <bibi23> ubuntu shows randomly some black screen each time I use it, after like 30 minutes of use, then it freezes on a black screen, and I can't do anything but reboot, I've followed this tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTmZYzaxR_k) but I don't see any "additional drivers" detected, my graphic card is radeon 4670, what can I do?
[14:26] <phunyguy> !noob | also, Bil
[14:27] <Bil> understood
[14:27] <BluesKaj> honestly:  some say that you have to add the settings to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base as well , it's understandable , but for some reason they've chosen head for the settings
[14:27] <CyberGabber> viscous123: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=starting+with+linux
[14:27] <viscous123> ohk someone tell me
[14:27] <viscous123> I AM A NOOB :/
[14:27] <Bil> but Linux is for people to do what they want, opressing ppl is a bit Windows/MacOs
[14:27] <Bil> ?
[14:28] <supercuteboy> Im having problems with connecting my 2560x1440 screen with DP. It used to work fine with ubuntu 13. After reinstall it still recognizes correctly but it just black. Some lower resolutions work and some have weird pixel effects. Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> supercuteboy: what is 'dp'?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> dtaport
[14:29] <supercuteboy> display port
[14:29] <BluesKaj> err display :)
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> supercuteboy: what video chip do you use?
[14:29] <supercuteboy> intel 4000
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> supercuteboy: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:29] <DJones>  +b *!*user@unaffiliated/asher1
[14:29] <incog> you fuck up
[14:29] <incog> good job op
[14:30] <supercuteboy> file is empty
[14:30] <bugtraq> salut des francais ici ?,
[14:31] <supercuteboy> ActionParsnip: file /etc/issue returns "Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l"
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> supercuteboy: so it's "Ubuntu 13.04" and not "Ubuntu 13".....
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> supercuteboy: is the OS fully updated?
[14:32] <Bil> For future refernce do not take any notice of /etc/issue or motd there just plain text files
[14:32] <supercuteboy> right ... sorry, installed fresh
[14:34] <supercuteboy> ActionParsnip: I'm guessing it has to do with the cable or the connections of the screen/laptop
[14:37] <BluesKaj> supercuteboy:  what are you connecting to ?
[14:38] <supercuteboy> dell 2713hm
[14:38] <BluesKaj> FROM ?
[14:38] <supercuteboy> lenovo x230i
[14:38] <supercuteboy> intel 4000
[14:39] <BluesKaj> what's the dell have for graphics?
[14:39] <Bil> Ok and this a support question. Ive used Linux from back before package mangers? What are the most comon questions you get asked, or what categorgy i.e graphics, networks.
[14:39] <supercuteboy> 2560x1440
[14:39] <blazemore> Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic Bil
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Bil:  that's not a support question , no polling pleae
[14:40] <Bil> sorry wrong window
[14:41] <BluesKaj> supercuteboy:  I mean the graphics card on the dell
[14:41] <kostkon> BluesKaj: it,s a monitor
[14:41] <BluesKaj> or is that amonitor
[14:41] <supercuteboy> the dell is the display, not sure what you mean or how to look up the card ?!
[14:41] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:42] <Technicus> Hello, what is libstartup-notification0-dev ?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> sorry supercuteboy , i misre
[14:42] <BluesKaj> misread
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Bil: "Ive used Linux from back before package mangers?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> " is a statement, not a question#
[14:43] <Guest58997> hey guys.. any software to manage configs on files.... like to see when the file content is changed and what content got changed.
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> supercuteboy: sudo lshw -C display     do you only see an Intel GPU?
[14:43] <BluesKaj> displayport to what kind of input on the monitor , supercuteboy , dvi, vga?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest58997: you can use tripwire to monitor the files to alert when they change
[14:43] <Bil> ActionParsnip but it ends with ?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> Bil: doesnt make it a question
[14:44] <adjil> how  to install pytz in apt-get
[14:44] <phunyguy> Bil: We would love to chat with you in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Bil: "Have I used linux back before package managers?" is a question
[14:44] <Bil> it ends a sentance though.
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Bil: all sentances are not questions
[14:44] <adjil> how  to install pytz in apt-get? who knows
[14:44] <supercuteboy> miniDP to DP. The native resolution that ubuntu still recognizes was once possible ...
[14:44] <Bil> you American action?
[14:45] <blazemore> adjil: "sudo apt-get install pytz" what error does that give?
[14:45] <blazemore> Bil: Please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> !info pytz
[14:45] <DJones> Bil: Please move the general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic so that this channel can stay with specific support issues
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Bil: English, UK
[14:45] <adjil> E: Unable to locate package pytz
[14:45] <Guest58997> i actualy want to know what content of that file change ... a software which does diff as well and reports
[14:45] <blazemore> adjil: What ubuntu version are you using?
[14:45] <phunyguy> !info python-tz | adjil
[14:45] <Bil> I would but I dont want to chat about this its ActionPars
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> adjil: seems to be python-tz  maybe
[14:46] <BluesKaj> supercuteboy:  sorry not familiar with displayport  configurations and options
[14:46] <blazemore> Guest58997: Make a backup of the file, then allow whatever changes to be made. Then use "diff" to compare the files
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Guest58997: you could copy the files using cron, then compare the MD5 to the standing versions occasionally, different hash = changed file
[14:47] <adjil> python-tz; it works, thanks
[14:47] <blazemore> Guest58997: You could use Puppet to manage all your configurations :)
[14:47] <phunyguy> ActionParsnip: Guest58997, there is a pacakge called backintime, if you are looking for something that backs up software incrementally, by copying files and hardlinking files that haven't changed.  You can bust that open and look at the enclosed python to see how it works....
[14:47] <Bil> rsync ftw for backups!
[14:48] <supercuteboy> BluesKaj: Thanks anyways. Any idea on how to check weather the port or the cable is broken, if any. Im going to connect the screen to another computer with duallink DVI to check weather its still of native resolution. (I'm using the screen right now on low res with the same old setup)
[14:49] <phunyguy> Bil: please stop with the offtopic outburts
[14:49] <phunyguy> outbursts*
[14:50] <supercuteboy> BluesKaj: I would really prefer to use a DP cable since a DP to DVI Duallink needs to be an active one for 100 Euro.
[14:50] <BluesKaj> supercuteboy:  got a TV with the right connection, or the pc that has capture inputs
[14:50] <Xeekk> How do I get a regular ISO of Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 1? Is it only available as daily-build and source? The source dodwnload is ~8GB
[14:51] <blazemore> Xeek: There is no beta for 13.10 ubuntu, only daily builds
[14:51] <Xeek> ok that makes no sense
[14:51] <phunyguy> Xeek: #ubuntu+1 may have a better answer
[14:51] <supercuteboy> BluesKaj: neither ... the card on my computer has only non mini DP
[14:51] <Buzzer> After a few times I managed to install 13.04 in UEFI mode alongside my UEFI Windows 8. I can boot into either Windows or Ubuntu using the BIOS boot menu, but the boot manager is missing; by default I just boot into Windows. How can I fix this without breaking anything UEFI related?
[14:51] <Xeek> Why is everyone talking about ubuntu beta 1 (saucy
[14:51] <BluesKaj> blazemore:  there is beta1 , just released
[14:51] <Bil> what off topic about rsync?
[14:51] <Lequtix> morning guys
[14:52] <phunyguy> Bil: you aren't being helpful, that's what makes it offtopic.
[14:52] <blazemore> BluesKaj: There's no beta of Ubuntu, only the spins
[14:53] <phunyguy> Bil: a general rule of thumb is, if you aren't helping, or being helped with what you are saying, then it is offtopic.
[14:53] <Bil> phunguy understood
[14:53] <SupYoshi> blazemore! are you bacj?
[14:54] <SupYoshi> blazemore? :D Did ya read what i asked?
[14:54] <Bil> phunguy so I cqan t say ubuntu is trying to be m$?
[14:58] <ATC243750496> Hi
[14:58] <ATC243750496> what's the name of system useing to extract pacage
[14:58] <phunyguy> Bil: no.
[14:58] <BluesKaj> blazemore:  beta1 for optin flavours on sept 5th , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[14:59] <ATC243750496> what's the name of software system useing to extract pacage
[14:59] <Bil> define package?
[14:59] <ATC243750496> like extract rar zip
[14:59] <phunyguy> !dpkg | ATC243750496
[14:59] <phunyguy> OH
[14:59] <Bil> like I said define whqat ark do you want to extract?
[14:59] <phunyguy> ATC243750496: that depends on your needs.
[15:00] <eXeC001er> How to to say to 'apt-get' that need to do real downloading of packages if i use local repositories (sources.list contains file:///) ?
[15:00] <phunyguy> sorry ATC243750496, thought you meant something to use to extract something out of a .deb package
[15:01] <BluesKaj> eXeC001er:  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:01] <ATC243750496> i use ark but i dont know how to devide to many parts
[15:01] <sdgsdgsdgsdgdsgs> is there an ubuntu app developers channel
[15:01] <ATC243750496> like 500MB each
[15:01] <SupYoshi> brb..
[15:01] <phunyguy> ATC243750496: what compression pacakge are you trying to use?
[15:01] <ATC243750496> ark
[15:01] <phunyguy> ActionParsnip: as in, .rar, .tar.gz, etc
[15:01] <kostkon> sdgsdgsdgsdgdsgs: #ubuntu-app-devel
[15:02] <eXeC001er> BluesKaj: i meant that if i try to do 'apt-get download' it creates symlink to file in my local APT, instead of copy the file to current directory
[15:02] <phunyguy> sorry bud, meant ATC243750496
[15:03] <ATC243750496> so if cant please let me know the software ubuntu use to extract i am now using fedora and cant find somewhere to devided into parts
[15:04] <ATC243750496> fedora kde
[15:04] <varunendra> ATC243750496, are you trying to extract or compress?
[15:04] <SupaYoshi> Hey back
[15:04] <ATC243750496> sorry
[15:04] <ATC243750496> compress
[15:05] <Zllort> I'm in ubuntu 13.04 and for some reason clicking a link in the ubuntu version of thunderbird opens firefox instead of my default browser chromium when I click a link in a message
[15:05] <ATC243750496> how to use ark to compress to 500MB each part
[15:05] <SupaYoshi> blazemore: do you have time ?
[15:06] <phunyguy> ATC243750496: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeutils/ark/ark.pdf
[15:07] <john_john> KDE was not for me either, time to try xfce
[15:07] <BluesKaj> eXeC001er:  apt and the package managers all use dpkg , apt-get download creates a deb file in your ~/Downloads file which you can then click on to install ..afaik it's not a symlink
[15:07] <phunyguy> sorry, ATC243750496, that doc is useless
[15:08] <varunendra> ATC243750496, I don't know about ark, but the default archiver GUI in Ubuntu gives me the option to split the archive in defined sized parts.
[15:08] <phunyguy> varunendra: I think someone earlier recommended ark, but they may have been misguided.
[15:09] <ATC243750496> the ubuntu default decompresssion software is?
[15:10] <varunendra> phunyguy, I'm sure ark or any commandline program should have the option to split. I just don't know about it. I use GUI and it works :)
[15:10] <ATC243750496> i found no fuction in ark
[15:10] <phunyguy> ATC243750496: try file-roller
[15:10] <phunyguy> ATC243750496: it is installed by default
[15:10] <SupaYoshi> nevermind I got it fixed!
[15:10] <phunyguy> SupaYoshi: yay!
[15:11] <dns42> i know how to change the alternative config for a certain program using update-alternatives. is it possible to temporary change this setting just for one session?
[15:11] <SupaYoshi> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 ! -d 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[15:11] <SupaYoshi> was the solution!
[15:11] <SupaYoshi> lawl ;)
[15:11] <phunyguy> good. :)
[15:11] <varunendra> ATC243750496, just right-click the file(s) > select "Compress.." and choose the split size in "Advance options".
[15:12] <varunendra> sorry, "Other options"
[15:14] <Impossible_> hello
[15:14] <ocooel> How do I tell what repository a package belongs to in the software centre..?
[15:15] <willdelphia_> hi, i have looked through a lot of google without a solution: so here it goes:
[15:15] <willdelphia_> all audio and video apps don't work on the new distro of ubuntu i installed two days ago
[15:15] <willdelphia_> any idea?
[15:15] <Impossible_> in Lubuntu i was able to switch the close min and max to the left side but in xubuntu its not the same, any tips>?
[15:15] <willdelphia_> also many things in the software center (if not all at times) come up "NOT FOUND"
[15:16] <ocooel> willdelphia: run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:16] <ocooel> willdelphia: Maybe the image or boot media was broken or corrupt.
[15:16] <phunyguy> willdelphia_: also enable multiverse repo
[15:17] <varunendra> ocooel, you can use "apt-cache show <package name> to see what repository it belongs to. Or Synaptic for GUI. Not sure how to do that in USC.
[15:17] <ATC243750496> ......
[15:18] <ATC243750496> there is a problem
[15:18] <ATC243750496> i cant find where to add compress to ..... extract to..... using file-roller
[15:18] <ocooel> varunendra: Synaptic to the rescue.
[15:18] <ATC243750496> after remove ark
[15:18] <varunendra> ATC243750496, are you using Kubuntu?
[15:19] <ATC243750496> kde fedora the same with kde
[15:19] <ATC243750496> so just give me some tips
[15:20] <ATC243750496> thanks
[15:20] <phunyguy> ATC243750496: unfortunately we cannot control or know what fedora does differently.
[15:20] <kostkon> ATC243750496: fedora is not supported here
[15:20] <OerHeks> ATC243750496, try #fedora ?
[15:21] <ocooel> Is there a channel I can go to for discussing software..?
[15:21] <ATC243750496> kubuntu also using kde maybe there's some way to make it working in same
[15:22] <ATC243750496> so please give me some tips if someone used kubuntu before
[15:22] <phunyguy> ocooel: depends on the software AND topic
[15:22] <phunyguy> ATC243750496: unfortunately that's not how it works here
[15:22] <ATC243750496> ok
[15:22] <ATC243750496> i will ask kde fedora
[15:23] <phunyguy> !alis | ocooel
[15:24] <xk05> is it me, or is ubuntu pushing out alot of updates, lately? is there a release of some kind in the works?
[15:24] <kostkon> xk05: 12.04.3
[15:24] <marloshouse> need a little hep mounting an ntfs drive from a dead pc... done this a dozen times, getting a "/dev/sdb1 doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS..." on this drive... not quite sure why or what else I should be trying.
[15:25] <timothyarnold> You might try this sudo apt-get install -f
[15:25] <phunyguy> marloshouse: do you have ntfs-3g installed?
[15:25] <ocooel> phunyguy: Thanks.
[15:25] <xk05> kostkon: ok
[15:25] <timothyarnold> then this sudo apt-get autoclean
[15:25] <rickyc> what is a point release??
[15:25] <marloshouse> mount is not saying i don't, booting this pc anyhow with its original internal windows drive, so it is mounting that one ok.
[15:25] <rickyc> I am confused
[15:26] <xk05> normally, i wouldnt ask, but that im seeing alot of kerberos 5 and x.org stuff
[15:26] <phunyguy> !ntfs | marloshouse
[15:26] <phunyguy> xk05: it is normal, since 12.04 is a long term release, they make periodic updates to some packages to stay current
[15:27] <timothyarnold> willdelphia: try this sudo apt-get autoclean
[15:27] <xk05> makes sense
[15:27] <timothyarnold> then try this.  sudo apt-get install -f
[15:28] <phunyguy> willdelphia_: ignore all that. :)
[15:29] <varunendra> rickyc, like 12.04.1, 12.04.2,..... are point releases of 12.04. It is an upgraded version of an LTS release whose objective is to offer packages that have been upgraded since the original release.
[15:29] <siva_> does any one know how to  install ip messenger in ubuntu
[15:29] <phunyguy> rickyc: you can also opt in to kernel updates for hardware compatibility.
[15:29] <blazemore> What version of Ubuntu, Guest49031 ?
[15:30] <phunyguy> rickyc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[15:30] <SupaYoshi> ive got a weird problem... i can access SAMBA shares over VPN but not over LAN?
[15:30] <SupaYoshi> I cannot authenciate over the LAN, with the same crediantals as I can over VPN. to the shares?
[15:30] <SupaYoshi> Anyone an idea what might be causing this?
[15:31] <phunyguy> SupaYoshi: what is teh exact error?
[15:31] <phunyguy> the*
[15:31] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Can you ping the IP of the server on the LAN?
[15:31] <Guest49031> ubuntu 13.04
[15:31] <SupaYoshi> Yeah i can.
[15:31] <SupaYoshi> Its something to do with Samba..
[15:31] <phunyguy> I am thinking some iptables are messing you up.
[15:31] <SupaYoshi> i can see the shares.
[15:31] <Guest49031> blazemore, actually i am getting some errors ..
[15:31] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: If you look in your samba config, see if its only listening on a particular IP address
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: what OS are the client and servers?
[15:31] <SupaYoshi> I will check ;)
[15:31] <SupaYoshi> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and Windows 7 and 8
[15:32] <SupaYoshi> where windows is client.
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: on the server, run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[15:32] <SupaYoshi> I can also see the shares from the LAN just not authenciate.
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: you can then authenticate as your user using the password you set
[15:32] <SupaYoshi> okay! lets see ;)
[15:33] <SupaYoshi> nope
[15:33] <SupaYoshi> that wasnt it...
[15:33] <SupaYoshi> also I can authenciate with the USER over VPN
[15:33] <phunyguy> you have to restart samba after that
[15:33] <SupaYoshi> not over LAN.
[15:33] <SupaYoshi> ok...
[15:33] <FloodBot1> SupaYoshi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:33] <nock> Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation
[15:33] <SupaYoshi> nope same issue.....
[15:33] <phunyguy> SupaYoshi: check your samba.conf then
[15:34] <SupaYoshi> lets see the samba config as blazemore suggexted
[15:34] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: If you could pastebin your config I'm sure that'd be useful
[15:34] <SupaYoshi> alright one sec ;)! tyvm
[15:34] <tmmunq> also, that output of testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:35] <nock> ght one sec
[15:35] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6070833/
[15:35] <nock> Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation
[15:35] <SupaYoshi> if you want me to uncomment these things, please tell me that grep thing ;P
[15:35] <nock> what is?
[15:36] <phunyguy> nock?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: did you set the smbpasswd for the users: sup4y0sh1 sirmario sirluigi bepke xbmc
[15:37] <Impossible> i get an error when trying to open an external harrddruve
[15:37] <nock> phunyguy, yes?
[15:37] <Impossible> harddrive*
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: sudo smbpasswd -a sup4y0sh1
[15:37] <SupaYoshi> ive set it for myself.
[15:37] <Impossible> Failed to open directory "Seagate Expansion Drive".
[15:37] <Impossible> how come?
[15:37] <SupaYoshi> and that doesnt work either.
[15:37] <phunyguy> !enter | Impossible
[15:37] <SupaYoshi> And from the VPN I can login with all accounts let me test.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Impossible: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS?
[15:37] <phunyguy> SupaYoshi: maybe your iptables config isn't right.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: did you also run:  sudo smbpasswd -a sirmario
[15:37] <phunyguy> and it is rejecting
[15:38] <nock> !enter
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: when you try and connect, what messages do you get?
[15:38] <Impossible> i dont remember actionparsnip
[15:38] <phunyguy> like you can see the shares via mDNS, but you cannot connect because of iptables.
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Impossible: its a concious effort
[15:38] <SupaYoshi> one second.
[15:38] <Impossible> how do i safely remove and is it fixable
[15:38] <snoopybbt> hi people! ubuntu 12.04 on thinkpad x220 here, after usual software upgrade i'm not asked to use fingerprint anymore, password only
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Impossible: sounds like you aren't doing it and abusing your hardware
[15:39] <snoopybbt> in the past i used to get asked for fingerprint first, and then for password
[15:39] <SupaYoshi> http://prntscr.com/1pootj
[15:39] <snoopybbt> what happened ?
[15:39] <SupaYoshi> I will test once more second, I need to disconnect the share from Windows.. =/
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Impossible: plug it into the Windows PC and run a chkdsk on it so that the data is known to be healty
[15:39] <SupaYoshi> Anyone know how to logout shares on Windows without rebooting?
[15:39] <phunyguy> SupaYoshi: that screenprint is absolutely useless to us.... lol
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Impossible: then in the bottom right you will see a little icon, you can safe remove it there
[15:39] <Impossible> i remember i would use the arrow pointing but then disconnect
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: right click share, disconnect
[15:40] <Impossible> alright thanks
[15:40] <SupaYoshi> phunyguy, you guys asked the thing it was saying :P
[15:40] <phunyguy> SupaYoshi: can you translate?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> SupaYoshi: are the folders you are sharing NTFS based by any chance
[15:41] <SupaYoshi> ActionParsnip, no no
[15:41] <SupaYoshi> Let me just em try to connect over samba, over VPN okay?
[15:41] <N00b_Nick> is there anyway to recover info from a HDD after it has been jostled (in the comp case) by a bullet? or is my Reader arm completely thrashed?
[15:41] <SupaYoshi> I think this is indeed IP tables related
[15:41] <compdoc> N00b_Nick, did the bullet hit the drive?
[15:41] <N00b_Nick> no
[15:42] <blazemore> When /var/log/maillog says "Host unknown (Name server: example.com: host not found)" does that mean it thinks example.com is the nameserver, or that example.com can't be resolved *by* the nameserver?
[15:42] <phunyguy> blazemore: the latter
[15:42] <Berengar> hey guys - this is my monthly "i updated ubuntu and it broke something" visit ;)
[15:42] <SupaYoshi> rebooting the system, btw, It could be happened after i added this rule?
[15:42] <SupaYoshi> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 ! -d 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[15:42] <N00b_Nick> the bullet hit the lower corner of my case... about 5 inches from where the HDD was.
[15:43] <phunyguy> N00b_Nick: have you asked in ##hardware ?
[15:43] <SupaYoshi> this was to make OpenVPN server working
[15:43] <N00b_Nick> thank you
[15:43] <N00b_Nick> im new to IRC
[15:43] <phunyguy> N00b_Nick: are you registered with chanserv?
[15:43] <phunyguy> err nickserv
[15:43] <nock> N00b_Nick, me too
[15:43] <N00b_Nick> phuny guy - no im not
[15:43] <Berengar> so eh.. how do i go about deleting/renaming a file which i have no permissions to do so? (even as root)
[15:43] <phunyguy> you will have to before you can use ##hardware IIRC
[15:44] <phunyguy> N00b_Nick: /msg nickserv help
[15:44] <phunyguy> N00b_Nick: /msg nickserv help register ***
[15:45] <N00b_Nick> thanks... will that register me as the nickname i have currently?
[15:45] <ATC243750496> where is the menu list file locate?
[15:45] <phunyguy> nock, do you have a support question?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Berengar: unless the file system holding the data is read only, root will ALWAYS be able to delete
[15:45] <ATC243750496> i want to see how it write the menu list
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: there isnt one now, Ubuntu doesnt use Grub now, it uses Grub2
[15:45] <ATC243750496> with right click
[15:45] <phunyguy> N00b_Nick: as long as it is available, yes
[15:46] <Berengar> thing is, i am trying to update this gnome control center package. but it seems one of the PNG files in the UI folder is so heavily corrupted that it shows up as folder - and the file permissions are locked down to some "23897432894738947" user in the group "23434"
[15:46] <ATC243750496> right clik menu
[15:46] <Berengar> which means i can't even delete it if i run gksu nautilus
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> N00b_Nick  like so    /msg nickserv register YOURPASSWORD YOUREMAIL
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: the question doesn't make sense
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: there is no menu.lst file now
[15:46] <nock> phunyguy:what do you mean
[15:47] <N00b_Nick> monkeydust: my pass and email to what? i havent registered to anything
[15:47] <phunyguy> nock: this is a support channel, and you have been talking, but not making sense, or being useful.
[15:47] <Berengar> so yeah, when i try to update it, it exits with a file permission error
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> N00b_Nick  your email address and its password
[15:47] <Berengar> because root can't access it :)
[15:47] <ATC243750496> in fedora i have to write a file to add the command to right click menu
[15:47] <phunyguy> Berengar: possibly the drive has a bed sector?
[15:48] <phunyguy> bad*
[15:48] <ATC243750496> to make extract and compress work
[15:48] <ATC243750496> but i just dont know the command
[15:48] <Berengar> phunyguy SMART doesn't return any error, ran FSCK too, with no errors
[15:48] <N00b_Nick> monkeydust : so the IRC will register my name through an email address?
[15:48] <nock> phunyguy, I'm a new to IRC too, and  my english is not very good
[15:48] <ATC243750496> so  i just want to see what's ubuntu write
[15:48] <blazemore> ATC243750496: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21953/how-to-customize-the-context-menu-in-nautilus
[15:49] <phunyguy> ATC243750496: fedora is not supported here
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: look into nautilus-scripts
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> N00b_Nick: the guys in #freenode will help with registering issues
[15:49] <SupaYoshi> okay this is odd
[15:49] <N00b_Nick> thanks to all....
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> N00b_Nick  yes, your existing email address
[15:50] <ATC243750496> i just want to know the file-roller command
[15:50] <dpower>  how can i check if any application is running on a specific port
[15:50] <ATC243750496> can some one help me
[15:50] <Berengar> phunyguy could just be that i accidentally hit the reset button while ubuntu was still running ^^
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: do you want to extract an archive?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> dpower  try lsof, i forget the exact option
[15:51] <ATC243750496> both extract and compress
[15:51] <SupaYoshi> okay... so I cannot authenciate over LAN but I can over VPN adapter.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: why didnt you just say THAT?
[15:51] <SupaYoshi> I think it is IPtables?
[15:51] <dpower> thank you MonkeyDust
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: install unp and you can extract everything with one command..unp
[15:51] <Berengar> i guess my question is, is there any other way to access that corrupted file, so that i can reinstall the package or do i have to do a complete format of the drive?
[15:52] <Berengar> :\
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> Berengar: you could force install the deb file and it may help
[15:52] <blazemore> Berengar: Can you run "sudo touch /forcefsck" and then reboot
[15:53] <ATC243750496> if i know the command to make it go to the limiting surface of file-roller i can see it from screen
[15:53] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, any idea whats going on? should i post iptables-save/
[15:54] <Berengar> Actionparsnip the install routine doesn't do me any good, because root can't access the file due to corrupted file permissions
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Berengar: did you try it? just to test
[15:54] <SupaYoshi> http://pastebin.com/MeJx59Vs
[15:54] <Berengar> yeah i did
[15:54] <SupaYoshi> how do I delete a rule from iptables?
[15:54] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: Honestly I don't know. You could use something like tcpdump to analyst the actual network traffic
[15:54] <Berengar> i'll be back in a second ;D
[15:54] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: @your first question, not the delete a rule one
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: how do you mean 'limiting surface' ?
[15:55] <ATC243750496> i just want to make it like this :click express to and open the file-roller window, click compress to and open ti too
[15:55] <SupaYoshi> I wanna delete the MASQ rule and see if it happens ;P
[15:55] <SupaYoshi> I added that myself..
[15:55] <SupaYoshi> It might have happened after I did that.
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: so you atre missing file roller from your right click menu? Is that the issue?
[15:56] <marloshouse> ubottu, i think my issue is there's an issue with this ntfs drive i'm trying to mount.  normally i mount my drives just fine, i just plugged this one in temporarily to do some data recovery on it
[15:56] <ATC243750496> i just want it to make like ubuntu like but just dont know the command behind cliking
[15:56] <ATC243750496> yes
[15:56] <xtriz> ubuntu will be introducing Mir from next release so will it create probs for other applications to run ?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: then what has that got to do with menu.lst
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> xtriz  ask in #ubuntu-mir
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: why didnt you just say that it was missing
[15:56] <ATC243750496> ......
[15:56] <xtriz> MonkeyDust, ok :)
[15:56] <marloshouse> fdisk -l shows the drive, and shows it as an ntfs vol but it won't mount
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: Why have we had all this back and forth when it can be summed up in one concide sentance
[15:56] <ATC243750496> maybe i do it a hard way
[15:57] <neredsenvy> How can I mount my USB drive as writable Ubuntu loads it as read only by default. Preventing me from making a bootable stick from it.
[15:57] <blazemore> marloshouse: Do you get an error when you try to mount it?
[15:57] <marloshouse> blazemore, yes, "doesn't seem to have a valid ntfs"
[15:57] <marloshouse> (it's from a dead win machine)
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: why though. Think I've got nothing better to do than mess around while you try and use technical terminaology which you are clearly not versed with and delay getting fixed
[15:57] <blazemore> marloshouse: Do you have access to Windows?
[15:57] <SupaYoshi> How do i remove a line?
[15:58] <marloshouse> i do... (have to reboot ~yeuch~)
[15:58] <syntaxx> I am trying to upgrade my 10.04 to 12.04 LTS but unfortunately I am seeing no new release found after running do-release-upgrade any idea why it is happening?
[15:58] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: In Nano? Ctrl-K. In Vim? :dl
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: in future, just use plain language. You will get to what you need faster, rather than trying to use phrases you either don't know or don't understand
[15:58] <SupaYoshi> no i mean how to open iptables?
[15:58] <neredsenvy> How can I mount my USB drive as writable Ubuntu loads it as read only by default. Preventing me from making a bootable stick from it.
[15:58] <SupaYoshi> where is it locateD?
[15:58] <blazemore> marloshouse: Check the disk from Windows
[15:58] <marloshouse> k
[15:58] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: How did you add the rule?
[15:58] <SupaYoshi> form the console directly =/
[15:58] <SupaYoshi> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 ! -d 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> ATC243750496: if you install xarchiver and log out then log in, is it there?
[15:59] <SupaYoshi> I just wanna remove that =/ Cus people say its bad anyway, and I wanna access my shares again pls .=/
[15:59] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: That didn't actually add the rule in the first place, at least not permanently
[15:59] <SupaYoshi> i did iptables-save after.
[15:59] <dakotawulfy> syntaxx did you check the options in the upgrade  program
[15:59] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: do iptables-save > output
[15:59] <SupaYoshi> anyway, when i do iptables-save its listed there. =/ and
[15:59] <SupaYoshi> I cant access my shares .__.
[15:59] <SupaYoshi> How do i get rid of it?
[15:59] <SupaYoshi> okay !
[15:59] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: then edit output, find the line and delete it
[16:00] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: then do sudo iptables-restore < output
[16:00] <ATC243750496> let me try
[16:00] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6070936/
[16:00] <blazemore> I have to go home now SupaYoshi
[16:00] <dakotawulfy> syntaxx open up the update manager  then go to settings
[16:01] <dakotawulfy> syntaxx then go to updates  tab
[16:03] <syntaxx> dakotawulfy, i need the console
[16:03] <syntaxx> dakotawulfy, i edit the /etc/update-manager/releases to PROMPT=lts but no use
[16:03] <Berengar> phew
[16:04] <Berengar> i hate nickserv
[16:04] <Berengar> xD
[16:05] <Berengar> okay, so neither the forced fsck nor the forced reinstall after did anything for me
[16:05] <dakotawulfy> syntaxx http://askubuntu.com/questions/130677/update-to-12-04-lts
[16:05] <Berengar> as before i get the error "unable to move aside `./usr/share/gnome-control-center/ui/datetime/timezone_6.png' to install new version: Operation not permitted"
[16:06] <Berengar> ....which is due to root not having permissions to change the file
[16:06] <syntaxx> dakotawulfy, yes i already run the do-release-upgrade -d option and still i am getting no new releases
[16:07] <Berengar> i'm open for suggestions not involving a complete reinstall of ubuntu :/
[16:09] <Berengar> oh hey wilee-nilee  :D
[16:09] <dakotawulfy> syntaxx you might have to upgrade it to 11..10 first then update it agin
[16:10] <dakotawulfy> syntaxx upgrade it i mean
[16:10] <SupaYoshi> ah i think the issue with samba is just me...
[16:10] <SupaYoshi> I can access it locally from downstairs... =/
[16:10] <SupaYoshi> But not my own computer xD smh...
[16:10] <syntaxx> dakotawulfy, how can i upgrade it to 11? if there are no new releases found?
[16:10] <OerHeks> Berengar, if you interupted the installation, with a powerswitch, most likely you need to reinstall, as you don't know what else is missing/corrupted, long road to determin
[16:10] <syntaxx> dakotawulfy, i am pretty sure i already upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 until before 13.04 releases
[16:10] <sogeking99> Hey guys, I have a Sony Vaio laptop and install ubuntu along side Windows 8. However there is no boot menu showing, it jumps straight to windows and BIOS seems very limited
[16:10] <dakotawulfy> syntaxx  did u check the settings under update manager ??
[16:11] <SupaYoshi> Question regarding Iptables -> I added the following line, but people said its not good and dangerous or as they said. "eww" in the #openvpn channel.
[16:11] <Berengar> 0erHeks i have the feeling ubuntu just does a bad job at unmounting the HDD somehow. never ran into problems when using my win boot
[16:11] <syntaxx> dakotawulfy, i am running ubuntu server not a desktop
[16:11] <dakotawulfy> OK
[16:11] <Berengar> i suffer from corrupted files quite often on my ubuntu boot
[16:12] <Berengar> already did a memory and hdd check, but they always come out clean
[16:12] <SupaYoshi> Ah i got it!
[16:13] <dakotawulfy>  syntaxx  http://askubuntu.com/questions/154223/cant-upgrade-ubuntu-server-from-10-04-lts-to-12-04-lts
[16:13] <dakotawulfy>  syntaxx maybe that will help you
[16:14] <Luyin> sogeking99: do you know if your computer uses uefi?
[16:15] <syntaxx> dakotawulfy, nah i already did that as well
[16:15] <sogeking99> Luyin, Yeah Windows 8 does. Not sure if Xbuntu 13.04 does or not.
[16:16] <Luyin> sogeking99: ubuntu is known to be a little problematic with that. google for it and check ubuntu.com, there is a link to a manual concerning uefi
[16:16] <SupaYoshi> https://secure.join.me/179-824-546
[16:16] <SupaYoshi> click to see
[16:17] <dakotawulfy>  syntaxx ok  not sure then
[16:17] <dakotawulfy>  syntaxx sorry
[16:18] <ATC243750496> hi
[16:19] <ATC243750496> problem sovled after downloaded a script for kde
[16:20] <marloshouse> blazemore, can't read the drives in windows either... my problem is there
[16:20] <ATC243750496> another question is what's the file viewer ubuntu used by default name
[16:20] <xtriz> can i use wayland with ubuntu ?
[16:21] <ATC243750496> i like that file viewer
[16:21] <ATC243750496> but dont know the name
[16:21] <ATC243750496> someone know that?
[16:21] <Luyin> ATC243750496: viewer for what files? pdfs?
[16:21] <ATC243750496> folder viewer
[16:22] <Luyin> you mean nautilus?
[16:22] <ATC243750496> let me try to install it
[16:22] <dakotawulfy> ATC243750496 spacefm is cool
[16:22] <ATC243750496> how cool it is
[16:23] <ATC243750496> can you describe?
[16:23] <vooze> I'm having some small problems with GNOME. I almost ever shut down my computer, but I have to reboot it (or kill the gnome-session) a few times a week, due to it freezing... (INTEL HD 4000 GPU, so its not GFX problem I think) Is there somthing more stable for a "media box" (computer set to TV )??
[16:23] <varunendra> ATC243750496, the default 'File Manager' for Ubuntu is "Nautilus"
[16:23] <john_john> So I want to install gtk3 w/out Unity... What's the best options? Cinnamon?
[16:23] <ATC243750496> i am installing
[16:24] <BAMbanda> If I run "top" and my %CPU has 90 for id, that's bad right? I'm not running many applications. I have a 1.4ghz dual core toshiba laptop. I just needed a quick work laptop to do some experiemental coding
[16:24] <ATC243750496> dakotawulfy how cool the spacefm is
[16:24] <dakotawulfy> ATC243750496 real cool can easily  set up menus  and tools to me it proficient
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> sogeking99, Here is a thread on this install to look at to compare how you did this, the UF and the threads author is a good source of help they focus on this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[16:25] <varunendra> ATC243750496, I also just noticed, the File Roller program allows splitting only if I select the output format to be .7z. It gets disabled if I select any other format.
[16:25] <dakotawulfy> ATC243750496 I love it  think it better then thunar or nautilus
[16:26] <sogeking99> wilee-nilee, Thanks, I've not actually got a clue what UFIE is but I'll read.
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> sogeking99, This is a oem install of W8?
[16:27] <sogeking99> wilee-nilee, No, it's a Sony Vaio laptop
[16:28] <wilee-nilee> sogeking99, oem means manufacturer IE sony
[16:29] <sogeking99> I'm not sure really. My PC has a ton of BIOS options, here the advanced section only has one setting, virtualization.
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> sogeking99, YOu bought this computer brand new with W8 right?
[16:30] <sogeking99> Yeah
[16:31] <Zal> Hi all, my /etc/hosts doesn't seem to be working (never seen anything like this before). I've added "10.11.1.27 ldap1.mydomain.com" to /etc/hosts, but ping returns "unkown host" still. /etc/nsswitch looks right, as does /etc/host.conf. Any ideas what might be needed?
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> sageThen sony installed it and it is a uefi computer, it has a built in fast boot and gpt partitioning. THe mistake you probably made was not changing the boot to a legacy boot, I would make a thread at tha UF and wait for that thread author to advise you they are on daily.
[16:32] <UndrWater> can i pull kernel config off of the running install CD?  if so, where do i find it?
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> sogeking99, see above ^^^^
[16:33] <Zal> I've tried googling around, but all I can find so far is people with browser cache issues. I'm not using a browser, so ...
[16:33] <arklord> hello
[16:33] <BAMbanda> If I run "top" and my %CPU has 90 for id, that's bad right? I'm not running many applications. I have a 1.4ghz dual core toshiba laptop. I just needed a quick work laptop to do some experiemental coding
[16:33] <sogeking99> ok thanks wilee-nilee
[16:34] <zykotick9> BAMbanda: id is idle, meaning not doing anything
[16:34] <arklord> i have a simple question :
[16:35] <BAMbanda> zykotick9, so 90 id means there is a lot of computing power available for use?
[16:35] <zykotick9> BAMbanda: right, translate it to free ;)
[16:35] <sogeking99> wilee-nilee, Do you think boot-repair might do the trick?
[16:35] <BAMbanda> cool!
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> sogeking99, It might, honestly I would stop and wait for the author of that thread or the maker of the bootrepair app to answer a thread you make at the ubuntu forums, this is not a big deal, however you ned help from people who know this best.
[16:38] <wilee-nilee> need*
[16:38] <sogeking99> Ok thanks again.
[16:38] <zykotick9> BAMbanda: load is an interesting value to see how busy your CPU is.  1 means 100%, anything less, means the system is working less than full speed.
[16:39] <UndrWater> install CD uses efi-stub kernel, yes?
[16:41] <timothyarnold> join #chrome
[16:41] <dsk_hxh> quit
[16:41] <dsk_hxh> exit
[16:42] <dsk_hxh> ...
[16:42] <dsk_hxh> ?
[16:42] <dsk_hxh> help
[16:42] <Dev_Antar> why i always should add  `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0` to compile a gtk app ?
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> Dev_Antar  better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[16:44] <SuperLag> I forgot to make backups of some of my .desktop files. Is there a way to generate a shell of a .desktop file, something with the bare minimum of required lines?
[16:44] <SuperLag> I should get in the habit of putting those in ~/.local/share/applications/ rather than /usr/share/applications/... as that would have helped me to avoid all that mess :)
[16:44] <dylan> I'm running ElementaryOS (Which is based on Precise Pangolin) and trying to install cmus.  When I run it, I get an error that there is no output plugin.  I also only have one input plugin, wav.so.  I have tried 3 different versions, different repos, building from source, and installing every lib under the moon.  I cannot get it to work.  PLEASE help
[16:44] <SuperLag> dylan: you probably won't get help with that here, as that's not Ubuntu
[16:45] <SuperLag> actually... s/probably//
[16:45] <SuperLag> just based on past experience
[16:47] <OerHeks> dylan, elementary OS is just a fork with its own issues, join #elementary or take a look at this german page http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/cmus good luck
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> dylan  type     /join #elementary
[16:47] <lid6j86> i'm trying to set up an irc server using ircd-hybrid.  I've configured everything so that when I get on another computer and type in the web-ip of the server it will connect properly.  I then set up a dyndns name for that computer's ip address.  Now when I try to use the dyndns name given to me, it's not connecting (connection timed out).  what do I need to do?  I'm assuming I need to do some sort of forwarding but I'm not smart enough on networks to kno
[16:47] <lid6j86> w what to do next
[16:47] <equalizer> Bjr Tlm
[16:48] <poiu342> hi ... is there a way downloading embedded flash videos? not those from youtube, but embedded in a website and somehow encapaulated, so the standard download tools dont see them.
[16:49] <OerHeks> poiu342, manually check the source from that site, maybe you find the embedded url
[16:49] <BluesKaj> poiu342:  you can try wget or curl
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> lid6j86  setting up a server, when you're not familiar with networking -- IRC even involves multiple servers
[16:50] <poiu342> OerHeks,BluesKay ... i,ve tried this so may times before but it never worked out
[16:50] <poiu342> those urls are useless
[16:51] <poiu342> or i dont know how to use them
[16:51] <lid6j86> MonkeyDust, that's why i'm trying to learn :-)
[16:51] <lid6j86> MonkeyDust, in all fairness I have a 90% solution, i'm just having trouble with that last 10%
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> lid6j86  tip: first learn networking basics :)
[16:59] <Zal> anyone have any thoughts on how to get my /etc/hosts entries recognized? I've never seen this situation before -- they're just ignored.
[16:59] <SupaYoshi> yuck, my own PC is being so mean to me... it wont connect to my SAMBA shares. However same crediantials on my other PC and Laptop work ><
[16:59] <SupaYoshi> for the same share. =/
[16:59] <Zal> (ubuntu 12.04 LTS)
[17:00] <tgm4883> Zal, /etc/hosts should be the first thing it checks. Typo maybe?
[17:00] <SupaYoshi> Windows 7 ><
[17:00] <SupaYoshi> does samba only allow 1 user to be logged in at the same time?
[17:00] <Zal> tgm4883, checked and re-checked ... it all looks perfect. The OS apparently added an entry for "ubuntu" to /etc/hosts, which is also unrecognized. "localhost" is the only one that works.
[17:01] <Zal> it's crazy
[17:02] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6071178/
[17:03] <SupaYoshi> does anybody understand why I can not connect from my Windows PC to my shares? >< This is my config =[
[17:03] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, any windows ideas xD lol
[17:03] <john_john> Guys, my font rendering is awful in chrome. Is that an ubuntu problem or is it chrome? IS there any way to fix it?
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> john_john, Chrome doea its own font have you messed with this in general in ubuntu, or turned off the chrome control of its own?
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> does*
[17:06] <gilesw_> heya all
[17:06] <john_john> wilee-nilee I know that I played around with the fonts in the settings but I had no idea that it would affect chrome. IS there any way to turn it on if I now happened to have turned it off?
[17:07] <gilesw_> got a nasty problem where 12.04 isn't bringing up eth0:0 on boot
[17:07] <gilesw_> I've tracked it down to the ifstate file
[17:07] <arklord> so how do we install something from a tar.gz
[17:07] <arklord> i have already extract the tar.gz
[17:07] <arklord> but do not really understand what to do after
[17:07] <arklord> even after watching and reading a quite share of stuff
[17:07] <FloodBot1> arklord: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:07] <arklord> if that can help:
[17:07] <arklord> I'm trying the installation of the last pscx2
[17:07] <SuperLag> john_john: one thing that I've found to *vastly* improve fonts in Ubuntu is to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> john_john, I would return the OS back to where it was, was this just a case of not really knowing what your doing and maybe being a bit to picky.
[17:08] <gilesw_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6071202/
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> just messing around where its not needed basically john_john
[17:08] <SuperLag> john_john: and that's not really the best way to put it... it's better to say it improves the looks of a lot of sites, in general
[17:08] <SuperLag> john_john: that's my $.02
[17:09] <john_john> wilee-nilee: I just changed the settings for windows, I never intended to change the fonts in chrome. I've already put it back to default settings. But chrome still has trouble rendering fonts
[17:09] <pgib> Hello. Anyone know of a good Ubuntu derivative that has almost no GUI at all? Xubuntu is nice, but even XFCE is overkill here. (I'm just making a Linux VM, and will be using the terminal for everything)
[17:10] <pgib> But I would like to have X, basic WM, and a terminal emulator so I can at least copy/paste text, have multiple terms open, etc.
[17:11] <arklord> i tried this:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6071212/
[17:12] <SuperLag> hmm... why would an icon not *stay* in the Launcher, if you tell set "Lock to launcher" ?
[17:12] <troii> i want to install ubuntu 10.04 as a desktop
[17:12] <arklord> what's that means
[17:12] <pgib> maybe i can just do a non-X ubuntu and install fluxbox or something
[17:12] <john_john> Superlag: installing ttf mscorefonts solved the problems. THank you my friend
[17:12] <OerHeks> troii, ubuntu 10.04 lts desktop is EOL, choose 12.04 lts
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> troii, you wont be supported her is all
[17:12] <troii> topic says iti supported
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> here
[17:12] <OerHeks> troii yes, for server
[17:13] <SuperLag> troii: just do ubuntu-server, and add on from there
[17:13] <troii> i want to install it on mydekstop
[17:14] <OerHeks> troii good luck, cannot help you there.
[17:14] <arklord> gentleman could i have some advices from you?
[17:14] <troii> i want to install ubuntu 10.04 server on my desktop and use it everyday
[17:16] <tgm4883> troii, why 10.04
[17:16] <blackwind_123> hi all , how to use apt-get command to upgrade my VIM...?
[17:16] <troii> 10.04 is stable and not bloated
[17:16] <tgm4883> troii, and also unsupported
[17:16] <ludkiller> can't mount my cdrom help
[17:16] <troii> topic says that it is supported
[17:17] <timothyarnold> arklord: what do you need?
[17:17] <tgm4883> troii, it says the server version is supported
[17:17] <ludkiller> actually can't even boot :/
[17:17] <tgm4883> troii, which is command line ony
[17:17] <tgm4883> only*
[17:17] <troii> i want to install it
[17:17]  * wilee-nilee hears rebel rebel playing softly in the background, lol
[17:17] <troii> and install X Server on it and use dit
[17:17] <tgm4883> troii, so install it then
[17:17] <troii> but i cant
[17:17] <pgib> blackwind_123 the same way you would use it to upgrade any package
[17:17] <tgm4883> troii, why not?
[17:18] <troii> because i cant update
[17:18] <tgm4883> troii, what?
[17:18] <troii> yea
[17:18] <blackwind_123> pgib: new to ubuntu....
[17:18] <tgm4883> troii, what do you mean  you can't update?
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> troii, what does uname -a  say
[17:19] <blackwind_123> this vim upgrade will be my first upgrade
[17:19] <troii> i cant get it to work
[17:19] <ludkiller> help
[17:19] <ludkiller> this dvd is working on other pc, but when I tru to mount it on ubuntu I can't
[17:19] <tgm4883> troii, listen, I'm going to be honest with you, if you can't figure out how to get the server version installed and working to the point you can update and install things, then you probably shouldn't be doing what you are trying to do
[17:20] <troii> then what do i do
[17:20] <tgm4883> troii, you install 12.04 (or 13.04)
[17:20] <troii> that is slowing my pc
[17:20] <troii> really bad
[17:20] <tgm4883> troii, 12.04 and 13.04 (and 12.10, although I'm unsure why you would install that) are both supported
[17:20] <ludkiller> help anyone?
[17:21] <tgm4883> troii, then either A) upgrade your hardware, B) figure out why it's slowing your pc (maybe you need to install proprietary drivers) or C) install something lighter like Xubuntu
[17:21] <ludkiller> cannot mount a bootable DVD's
[17:21] <ludkiller> DVD*
[17:22] <ludkiller> it's just weird
[17:22] <ludkiller> help?
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> !help | ludkiller
[17:23] <ludkiller> ._..
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> ludkiller, help goes nowhere
[17:23] <ludkiller> I already asked the question
[17:23] <ludkiller> I can't mount specific DVD's
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> ludkiller, right and have some patience
[17:24] <tgm4883> ludkiller, yes, what wilee-nilee was trying to get you to understand is you need to wait now
[17:24] <tgm4883> although I probably would have went with !patience
[17:24] <ludkiller> ^
[17:24] <ludkiller> fair enough
[17:24] <OerHeks> ludkiller, did you install restricted extras and run the css script for encryption // or do other dvd's play fine?
[17:25] <ludkiller> other dvd's mounts fine
[17:25] <tgm4883> OerHeks, he said it's a bootable DVD, so it doesn't sound like a video
[17:25] <blackwind_123> hi all , how to use apt-get command to upgrade my VIM...?
[17:25] <ludkiller> ah wait
[17:25] <ludkiller> I think I cannot mount dvds , but can mount cds
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> blackwind_123: sudo apt-get install vim assuming there were a later version available in the repo's
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> blackwind_123  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:26] <marloshouse> can i have two network addresses for one adapter? (say, em1)  one address for dhcp and one for static?
[17:26] <tgm4883> marloshouse, yes
[17:26] <ludkiller> oO
[17:26] <ludkiller> he can
[17:26] <SolarisBoy> marloshouse: you can attach an alias address
[17:26] <blackwind_123> MonkeyDust: SolarisBoy: thank you....
[17:26] <ludkiller> I am unable to mount dvds but cds are working fine
[17:27] <ludkiller> I guess some hardware defect
[17:27] <evermean> hi i am trying to install ubuntu 13.04 x64 via USB on a machine that has no CD-ROM ... but the installer keeps on trying to mount a cd-rom....any ideas?
[17:27] <OerHeks> ludkiller, does your player say dvd on the tray?
[17:28] <ludkiller> OerHeks, yes
[17:28] <marloshouse> where do i define this second interface?
[17:28] <marloshouse> (if not in /etc/network/interfaces)
[17:28] <ludkiller> I am trying to install some *censored* os
[17:29] <green_geeky_dude> lol
[17:29] <ludkiller> but this thing doesn't detect dvds
[17:30] <ludkiller> OerHeks, might be some hardware fault
[17:30] <wilee-nilee> evermean, when?
[17:30] <ludkiller> :c
[17:30] <ludkiller> shoudn't have buyed hp laptops
[17:30] <evermean> wilee-nilee during the installation
[17:30] <ludkiller> shouldn't*
[17:31] <OerHeks> ludkiller, i don't think it is a hardware fault, you just want to mount an OS in a unknown format, like osX or something like that.
[17:31] <troii> ubuntu is bloated
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> evermean, You have checked the sum of the ISO? How did you load it to the usb?
[17:31] <pgib> troii, at least regular ubuntu-desktop is. Agreed
[17:32] <ludkiller> OerHeks, nope
[17:32] <ludkiller> I have tried using a bootable linux distro and Windows 7
[17:32] <ludkiller> both dvd's aren't working
[17:32] <ludkiller> although cd works fine
[17:32] <ludkiller> even some random dvd isn't detected
[17:33] <evermean> wilee-nilee, I created the the USB drive using UNetbootin ... I don't really know what you mean by checking the sum?
[17:33] <ludkiller> and I tell you hp tech support is dumb as shit ._.
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | evermean
[17:33] <IdleOne> !language | ludkiller
[17:34] <ATC2437504961> Hi
[17:34] <troii> install Windows first, then Ubuntu
[17:34] <ATC2437504961> i just breaked system
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> evermean, Ofyen with usb install you have a popup that ask if you want to unmount something it is indicationg the usb are you hitting yes there?
[17:34] <troii> windows is crap, it deleted my partitions
[17:34] <ATC2437504961> is there any way to remove dolphin without breaking kde?
[17:34] <ludkiller> IdleOne, ok
[17:34] <iceroot_> ATC2437504961: why removing it? ust use something different
[17:35] <mkanyicy> running ubuntu saucy, no sound on laptop speakers but sound in earphones
[17:35] <ATC2437504961> i dont want to keep some software with not using
[17:35] <ludkiller> so any other solutions to my problem?
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> !saucy | mkanyicy
[17:35] <iceroot_> ATC2437504961: but its needed for some internal stuff
[17:36] <evermean> wilee-nilee, trying to verify the image sum one moment
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> mkanyicy  it's because saucy is not yet ready
[17:36] <ludkiller> OerHeks, for the record it doesn't even boot
[17:36] <jenjiskan> hey anyone interested in testing a new beta website? PM me if so :P
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> !spam | jenjiskan
[17:37] <OerHeks> ludkiller, so it is a boot issue, not an mount issue
[17:37] <jenjiskan> wilee-nilee:  spam? i didn't posted any brand or link
[17:38] <ludkiller> OerHeks, both
[17:38] <iceroot_> jenjiskan: its offtopic and we are not interested
[17:38] <ludkiller> can't boot/mount dvds
[17:38] <jenjiskan> iceroot_:  damn this is true sorry so :/
[17:38] <jenjiskan> i didn't thought about topics sorry i was searching for people like me
[17:39] <ludkiller> OerHeks, maybe that laser got out of alignment.
[17:39] <mkanyicy> ludkiller, can you mount a CD?
[17:39] <ludkiller> weee
[17:39] <ludkiller> I moved the laser
[17:39] <ludkiller> and it worked
[17:39] <ludkiller> lmao
[17:39] <FloodBot1> ludkiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:39] <ludkiller> best fix ever
[17:39] <OerHeks> ludkiller, yes, this could point to a hardwarefailure, all you can do now is try booting from an USB device
[17:40] <ludkiller> OerHeks, thanks >_>
[17:40] <ludkiller> but I moved the laser and it works
[17:40] <OerHeks> oh, you moved it .. could be dirt in the drive
[17:40] <ludkiller> heh I wonder
[17:40] <iceroot_> ludkiller: YOU MOVED the laser?
[17:41] <ludkiller> iceroot_, the device that generates it  yes
[17:41] <nyl> what kernel should i use with latest nvidia driver
[17:41] <evermean> wilee-nilee, The checksum of the iso is correct
[17:41] <nyl> optimus
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> evermean, How about that popup question?
[17:41] <ludkiller> wow
[17:41] <ludkiller> best solution ever.
[17:42] <ludkiller> ty OerHeks  for your time
[17:42] <mkanyicy> !enter | ludkiller
[17:42] <OerHeks> ludkiller, have fun
[17:42] <evermean> wilee-nilee, The current screen is telling me: Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that the CD-ROM was not in the drive. If so you can insert it and try again
[17:42] <ludkiller> mkanyicy, ok sorry
[17:43] <ludkiller> mkanyicy, and yes it was able to read CDs just like usual
[17:43] <evermean> wilee-nilee, And then I can choose yes or no
[17:43] <evermean> wilee-nilee, Retry mounting the CD-ROM? <--- there is not even a cdrom drive
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> evermean, Before that are you seeing a popup asking if you want to unmount anything? Have you chosen yes or no?
[17:44] <ludkiller> ty again.
[17:44] <iceroot_> ludkiller: again, YOU MOVED the laser by hand? from that drive?
[17:44] <buba> ciao a tutti
[17:45] <Orxata_> Hi
[17:45] <buba> un piccolo aiuto      se potete
[17:45] <nobodies> i installed ubuntu-desktop using apt and it installed loads of crap with it, is there any way of quickly removing it all?
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> !it
[17:45] <evermean> wilee-nilee, The last screen before that was asking about my keyboard layout
[17:46] <timothyarnold> ludkiller, i have a silly question. Because no DVD will boot, is the drive you are trying to put the DVD in a CD drive & not a DVD drive?
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> nobodies, try another desktop, your description meas nothing.
[17:46] <xtriz> can i check mir with ubuntu 13.10 beta release ?
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> means
[17:46] <xtriz> hi wilee-nilee :)
[17:47] <iceroot_> xtriz: #ubuntu+1
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | xtriz
[17:47] <evermean> wilee-nilee, There is no question about umount
[17:47] <xtriz> iceroot_, curious how many channels are there for ubuntu :D
[17:47] <rickyc> do ubuntu point releases upgrade the kernel version?
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> evermean, What release is this from ubuntu?
[17:47] <evermean> 13.04 x64
[17:48] <iceroot_> rickyc: yes
[17:48] <evermean> wilee-nilee, 13.04 x64
[17:48] <iceroot_> rickyc: but only a new installation
[17:48] <evermean> wilee-nilee, server
[17:48] <rickyc> iceroot_ for new hardware right
[17:48] <iceroot_> rickyc: the upgrade itself will use the old kernel as default but you can switch to a newer one (only on lts)
[17:48] <rickyc> k
[17:49] <rickyc> iceroot_ and i see shuttleworth says point releases might include updated apps in furutre?
[17:49] <rickyc> future*
[17:49] <iceroot_> rickyc: i dont know about that
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> evermean, Not sure why it is getting stuck there myself, if it were me I would try another usb loader, are you getting to the desktop then running the install?
[17:49] <nobodies> wilee-nilee, im using another desktop but i still have 40 games 20 text editors, ubuntu one, and stuff that it installed and didnt remove when i removed ubuntu-desktop
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> nobodies, Ah the server try #ubuntu-server
[17:50] <nobodies> nobodies, right ok ty
[17:50] <evermean> wilee-nilee, No it starts up and gives me a menu on what to do ... I chose Install Ubuntu
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> evermean, This ubuntu with a desktop
[17:51] <evermean> wilee-nilee, ? No its the server edition so i guess there is no desktop environment
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> evermean, Ah ou might try #ubuntu-server as well.
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> you*
[17:51] <evermean> wilee-nilee, OK will give it a try ... thanks for your help
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> nobodies, The ubuntu desktop is a meta package, you need to know how to remove it in the end.
[17:52] <SuperLag> sudo apt-get -d install xubuntu-artwork <-- is this the proper way to only download the packages and *not* install them? because the CLI is saying they'll be installed
[17:52] <SuperLag> so the manpage, and the output of this command seem contradictory
[17:53] <rickyc> iceroot_ how do I check the kernel version in stock 12.04 versus the point releases
[17:53] <SuperLag> I'm on Ubuntu. Just trying to get one of the Xubuntu wallpapers from Raring.
[17:53] <rickyc> no particulr reason im just researching
[17:53] <iceroot_> rickyc: 12.04 has 3.2, 3.5 and 3.8
[17:55] <rickyc> iceroot_ thanks!
[17:55] <jhutchins> SuperLag: Try it with something you don't care about installing.  If it doesn't work as you expect, remove the teset package.
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, You can just go to the web and find them download and apply.
[17:58] <ahmetoo> how do you run ubuntu dual boot with windows 8 on UEFI mode its not working i have to switch between UEFI and legacy to work , windows work on UEFI while ubantu works on legacy, why ubantu didnt upgrade yet
[17:58] <ahmetoo> is there a new ubantu uefi image we can download
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> !details | ahmetoo exact details
[18:00] <ahmetoo> latest ubantu version
[18:00] <syntaxx> I am trying to upgrade my 10.04 to 12.04 LTS but unfortunately I am seeing no new release found after running do-release-upgrade any idea why it is happening?
[18:00] <ahmetoo> in BIOS i have to switch between UEFI and legacy to work
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> !eol | syntaxx notice eol upgrade path
[18:01] <OerHeks> ahmetoo, did you reed the UEFI page ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[18:01] <ahmetoo> no
[18:01] <ahmetoo> lets see whats up
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> ahmetoo, You said that, what actually happens in detail if you try the windows boot with legacy?
[18:01] <john_john> don't install gnome 3.8, it's even more dumbed down than unity and all tablet oriented
[18:02] <ahmetoo> windows will not boot with legacy
[18:02] <ahmetoo> i have to switch it to uefi
[18:02] <xtriz> as mir will introduced that other DE like cinnamon and xfce will not work right ?
[18:02] <ahmetoo> its new bios stupid security
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> john_john, That is fud, and not helpful.
[18:02] <john_john> oops wrong channel, sorry wilee-nilee
[18:02] <SuperLag> jhutchins: wilee-nilee: contrary to the initial output, it did only download them. No installing.
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> john_john, Not acceptable anywehre it is an opin ion.
[18:03] <ahmetoo> the new systems all have uefi mode seems like it
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, I figured that would be the case, downloaded where?
[18:04] <john_john> wilee-nilee: you don't have to tell me twice
[18:04] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: it puts the .deb's in /var/cache/apt/archive/
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> SuperLag, And now available in the change background right click on the desktop?
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> ahmetoo, windows 8 oems yes.
[18:08] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: well... if I could get the .deb extracted, but Nautilus is a crash POS
[18:08] <SuperLag> s/crash/crashy
[18:09] <SuperLag> I moved from Xubuntu back to mainline Ubuntu for this upgrade. Thus far, Nautilus is my only problem.
[18:09] <flynn_> After upgrading Ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 My system wants to check for errors every startup and forgets my wireless password every shutdown.  After some research I found that a file "/etc/udev/user.rules' might be to blame, but nothing on what to do in that case.??
[18:13] <syntaxx> wilee-nilee, i did everything including the prompt=lts but still the same
[18:16] <SupaYoshi> I can connect from commandline net use \\sambaserver\sharename /supayoshi: -> just fine. However in WIndows I cannot see the hsare
[18:16] <SupaYoshi> or go to it.
[18:18] <mnemoc> hi, is it possible to add a ppa but only get one of the packages from there?
[18:18] <xtriz> as mir will introduced that other DE like cinnamon and xfce will not work right ?
[18:19] <ChogyDan> xtriz: they will be fine
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> syntaxx, What does uname -a show
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> syntaxx, Your overall info is not cosistent you say you upgraded to 12.04 then say you cant. run that command so we know e=what your actually running
[18:21] <ChogyDan> mnemoc: you could just download that package, instead of adding the ppa
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> xtriz, Ask their developers
[18:21] <ChogyDan> mnemoc: if that doesn't work, maybe you could describe what you're trying to do
[18:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello, what package would I install on *ubuntu 12.04 to enable x11 forwarding over ssh from an arch laptop?
[18:22] <xtriz> ok :)
[18:22] <syntaxx> wilee-nilee, Linux 2.6.32-41-server
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> synTax, all the data
[18:23] <syntaxx> wilee-nilee, #89-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 27 22:33:31 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:23] <mnemoc> ChogyDan: I want to install lxc 0.9.0 on a 12.04 but the only ppa with it includes a lot of other system packages I don't want to touch
[18:23] <mnemoc> and precise-backports is still at 0.8
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> syntaxx, Looks like 10.04 I guess, you might ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:24] <mnemoc> ChogyDan: can't get ipv6 working in the containers
[18:24] <syntaxx> ok
[18:26] <CatKiller> mnemoc: Did you try http://blog.toxa.de/archives/606
[18:26] <CatKiller> mnemoc: It talks about "lxc.network.ipv6=1234:5678:9abc:def0::1:0" and other stuff that need to be done to the LXC config
[18:27] <CatKiller> in order to get IPv6 working
[18:29] <SupaYoshi> is it advised to upgrade samba 3.6 to samba 4.0?
[18:29] <SupaYoshi> Im facing some Windows 7 issues
[18:29] <SupaYoshi> and id like to fix them =/
[18:30] <CatKiller> SupaYoshi: Maybe the windows issues aren't related to Samba 3.6
[18:30] <CatKiller> I'd be surprised if Win7 wasn't compatible with some major samba release
[18:30] <SupaYoshi> Catkiller, I suppose your right, but I cannot find out whats wrong xD
[18:30] <CatKiller> SupaYoshi: Does it work with a Linux client first of all?
[18:30] <SupaYoshi> CatKiller, i think it is, my other Windows 7 devices work flawlesly and htis one has
[18:30] <SupaYoshi> Till this morning / yesterday
[18:30] <SupaYoshi> And I havent changed anything :P
[18:30] <CatKiller> SupaYoshi: Sounds like it's not a server thing :p
[18:30] <SupaYoshi> xD
[18:31] <SupaYoshi> CatKiller, :P I dunt wanna reinstall WIndows
[18:31] <SupaYoshi> I cant find the error haha
[18:31] <CatKiller> SupaYoshi: Windows trouble basically. Try to connect using "\\ipaddress\" in the command prompt
[18:31] <SupaYoshi> CatKiller, funny thing
[18:31] <CatKiller> see if you can access your Samba root (if it is browseable)
[18:31] <SupaYoshi> net use \\HOMESRV\DOWNLOADS /user:sup4y0sh1 works ;)
[18:31] <SupaYoshi> with password...
[18:31] <SupaYoshi> However... from the GUI it doesnt work ><
[18:31] <SupaYoshi> wtf windows..
[18:31] <CatKiller> even after trying what I suggested?
[18:32] <CatKiller> replace ipaddress with the server's ip
[18:32] <SupaYoshi> What do ya mean? :P
[18:32] <SupaYoshi> ok
[18:32] <CatKiller> or netbios name
[18:32] <CatKiller> but try the IP first
[18:32] <CatKiller> could be a Netbios resolution issue
[18:32] <SupaYoshi> :P I can see the shares on the machine
[18:32] <SupaYoshi> just when I login from the GUI , click them
[18:32] <SupaYoshi> I cannot login :P
[18:33] <CatKiller> Login failed>?
[18:33] <SupaYoshi> However same login details work on other windows 7 pc's
[18:33] <SupaYoshi> Yeah, but funny thing is same login works on other Windows 7 pc's ;P
[18:33] <mnemoc> CatKiller: i'll give it another read, thanks
[18:33] <CatKiller> try copying and pasting the password from notepad into the password prompt
[18:33] <SupaYoshi> :P Catkiller already done ><
[18:34] <SupaYoshi> OMG
[18:34] <SupaYoshi> its netbios issue...
[18:34] <CatKiller> try to use DOMAIN\user
[18:34] <SupaYoshi> I can connect to 192.168.2.3 :P but not to //homesrv
[18:34] <CatKiller> how come?
[18:34] <CatKiller> sure that's why I suggested using the IP :p
[18:34] <CatKiller> to test this
[18:34] <SupaYoshi> :P alright, so how to fix the netbios ;)
[18:34] <CatKiller> Maybe it'll "fix itself"
[18:34] <SupaYoshi> Thanks! :) hah what a bs. XD stupid this. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[18:34] <CatKiller> have you tried rebooting?
[18:34] <SupaYoshi> :P really? lawl
[18:34] <SupaYoshi> Yeah serveral times
[18:35] <SupaYoshi> This is odd too... on //homesrv the share names are uncapitcalised
[18:35] <CatKiller> maybe more than one machine resolves //homesrv
[18:35] <SupaYoshi> and on //192.168.2.3 they are in capitcals (like i set it
[18:35] <chaotic_good> how do
[18:35] <chaotic_good> I search for a package in apt?
[18:35] <CatKiller> strange
[18:35] <CatKiller> many things could be wrong
[18:35] <CatKiller> but limited support here
[18:35] <CatKiller> I don't know Windows that well
[18:35] <SupaYoshi> In ubuntu i set it too DOWNLOADS for example ;)
[18:35] <SupaYoshi> But its shown as Downloads in //homesrv as it is in DOWNLOADS on //192.168.2.3
[18:36] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: try "apt-get install pack" and tab
[18:36] <blackwind_123> SupaYoshi: try to ping homesvr
[18:36] <CatKiller> where "pack" is the beginning of your package name
[18:36] <CatKiller> it will autocomplete the list of available packages
[18:36] <SupaYoshi> Antwoord van 192.168.2.3: bytes=32 tijd<1 ms TTL=64
[18:36] <SupaYoshi> ;) answers just fine lawl
[18:36] <blazemore> SupaYoshi: I haven't been following so I don't know if this is relevant, but keep in mind that Windows filenames are *not* case sensitive. So on Windows, FOO, Foo and foo are the same filename
[18:36] <CatKiller> So it's not the resolution. When logging in
[18:37] <CatKiller> try to specify DOMAIN\User
[18:37] <CatKiller> instead of just User
[18:37] <CatKiller> in the username box
[18:37] <CatKiller> it does the trick a lot of times in Windows
[18:37] <SupaYoshi> there is no domain on the box.
[18:37] <CatKiller> doesn't matter
[18:37] <CatKiller> just use "DOMAIN"
[18:37] <SupaYoshi> so isnt there on my pc?
[18:37] <FloodBot1> CatKiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <CatKiller> I've seen this happening many times
[18:37] <SupaYoshi> oh okay, so my pc name? :D
[18:37] <CatKiller> No, just DOMAIN
[18:37] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, i understand.
[18:37] <CatKiller> it won't use it
[18:37] <jarvis> echo Sougata !!!
[18:37] <SupaYoshi> blazemore, its just something with my crappy windows box :P
[18:38] <SupaYoshi> installation is almost 2 yhrs old
[18:38] <SupaYoshi> id like to keep it tat way
[18:38] <SupaYoshi> nope that wouldnt either
[18:38] <chaotic_good> so you can't search for packages in ubuntu???
[18:38] <blackwind_123> SupaYoshi: vintage Windows...!
[18:38] <CatKiller> chaotic_good: define "search"?
[18:38] <bazhang> chaotic_good, apt-cache search term
[18:39] <SupaYoshi> lmao
[18:39] <CatKiller> otherwise you can browse the repositories and search online
[18:39] <CatKiller> or using the Software Centre from Ubuntu
[18:39] <bazhang> !enter | SupaYoshi
[18:39] <SupaYoshi> mhm.. wlel i guess i will just use 192.168.2.3 then
[18:39] <SupaYoshi> funny this is...
[18:40] <CatKiller> SupaYoshi: Wise decision. Do not try to resist the Microsoft force. Work around it, not with it!
[18:40] <SupaYoshi> XDDDDDDD
[18:40] <CatKiller> On that, good evening/afternoong!
[18:40] <SupaYoshi> :D Good evening!
[18:40] <SupaYoshi> thanks for the help though
[18:40] <jarvis> Explorer !!!
[18:40] <SupaYoshi> Id have never guessed this wouldwork...
[18:40] <jarvis> Explorer !!!
[18:41] <bazhang> jarvis, stop that
[18:41] <SupaYoshi> jeezz I really cant believe that this was it... wtf.
[18:41] <jarvis> ok
[18:41] <bazhang> SupaYoshi, use commas, not the enter key
[18:41] <Explorer> ok
[18:41] <SupaYoshi> bazhang, i will try to do so... im sorry for troublin ya xD but anyway.. Is there no way to resolve this weird Netbios error? :D lmao... this is just so odd..
[18:42] <SolarisBoy> i think the netbios names need to resolve, maybe you can add them /etc/hosts
[18:43] <jarvis> hey Explorer accept dude !
[18:44] <bazhang> !ot | jarvis
[18:44] <SupaYoshi> AH!!! AHA!!! EUREKA
[18:44] <SupaYoshi> HOMESRV.lan works...
[18:45] <SupaYoshi> but \\HOMESRV doesnt... this is the output of my /etc/hosts http://paste.ubuntu.com/6071579/ any idea if this is correcT?
[18:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, apparently I misunderstood what x11 forwarding over ssh is, lol. I apparently need the reverse, so if I execute a command, say vlc, on the client, it opens on the server.
[18:48] <SupaYoshi> Whats the best program to sync 2 directories ? So that I can sync 2 harddrives (the files on certain directories) Rsync?
[18:49] <ChogyDan> SupaYoshi: I think you can use `rsync -Sa` or maybe `cp -a`.  I've used rsync, not cp
[18:50] <roders> Hi guys! I have a cam issue with skype 4.2 in ubuntu 12.04. When I look in options--->video devices the cam works fine. But then when i trie the echo test call, the cam icon is not working. Can you help me?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> SupaYoshi: yes rsync works well here
[18:53] <SupaYoshi> thanks
[18:53] <SupaYoshi> whats the best way to use https on lan and not get that annoying certificate warning :P
[18:53] <SupaYoshi> Do i really HAVE to buy a internal SSL certificate?
[18:53] <king_of_klines> self sign
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> add the self signed cert to your local bundle
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> trust it
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> done
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> the reason your getting the error is browsers dont know/trust self signed - you can manually though
[18:55] <Guest98551> does anyone have advice for a PCIe sata card that will work in ubuntu for sure?
[18:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest98551: #hardware?
[18:55] <roders> Hi guys! I have a cam issue with skype 4.2 in ubuntu 12.04. When I look in options--->video devices the cam works fine. But then when i trie the echo test call, the cam icon is not working. Can you help me? I have looked and googled everywhere to no avail.
[18:55] <Guest98551> ntzrmtthihu777, thanks
[18:56] <SolarisBoy> i dont think ubuntu will have a problem supporting anything generic as a SATA card (especially a pci one)
[18:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, that's pretty low-level
[18:56] <SolarisBoy> you'd probably be more worried if your board supports it afaik
[18:56] <SolarisBoy> or should be
[18:56] <Guest98551> ntzrmtthihu777, that looks like a general hardware board
[18:57] <justaguy> i hate mothers who think "What is this" when they see 2 motherboards laying on my desk and then get angry and put out my server pc
[18:57] <SolarisBoy> lolwhat?
[18:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest98551: and you had a general hardware issue. Its never an issue of does ubuntu support some harware, its all about the kernel :P
[18:58] <SolarisBoy> +1
[18:58] <Guest98551> ntzrmtthihu777, true, however this is in part an ubuntu issue.  perhaps it is supported in other distros.
[18:59] <SolarisBoy> Guest98551: sata is supported just about everywhere
[18:59] <Guest98551> SolarisBoy, this is true.  however the card I tried said it was supported from linux kernel 2.6 forward, however it did not work in ubuntu/debian
[18:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest98551: again, its all about the kernel and/or modules for hardware.
[18:59] <SolarisBoy> Guest98551: again - i dont think your asking the right question - you should ensure the card will fit your board fine
[18:59] <SolarisBoy> other than that - ubuntu should do fine with your new sata card
[19:00] <Guest98551> SolarisBoy, except you are wrong because it didn't.
[19:00] <ChogyDan> Guest98551: as others are saying, the card should connect fine, but it may still need a driver for the rest of it's functioning
[19:00] <Guest98551> ntzrmtthihu777, explain
[19:00] <Guest98551> ChogyDan, others seem to have no clue what I am talking about
[19:00] <SolarisBoy> time out/ what evidence or error did you get?
[19:01] <SolarisBoy> that it "didn't work"
[19:01] <ChogyDan> Guest98551: well, just post the specific piece of hardware you are talking about.  It's easier with specifics
[19:01] <Guest98551> ChogyDan, hold on.  let me get the link
[19:01] <Filipi> hello
[19:01] <Filipi> just testing
[19:01] <Guest98551> SolarisBoy, evidence, card was plugged in, drive plugged in to the card, drive not detected/didn't spin up.  drive is good.
[19:01] <Guest98551> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124060
[19:02] <Guest98551> that is the card
[19:02] <SolarisBoy> and the logs??
[19:02] <SolarisBoy> nothing error related there?
[19:02] <baphomet1> SolarisBoy, I was in this board and pasted the output to lspci -vnvn and someone checked with debianbot.  debianbot said there were no kernel entries for it
[19:02] <baphomet1> marvell controller
[19:02] <SolarisBoy> thats a raid card
[19:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> Guest98551: as in say skype doesn't detect a webcam; its not an issue with any particular distro/de, its about the the right kernel module being loaded so skype can access it.
[19:03] <baphomet1> SolarisBoy, it's not.
[19:03] <SolarisBoy> SYBA SI-PEX40057 PCI-Express 2.0 x2 Low Profile SATA III (6.0Gb/s) 4-ports RAID Card
[19:03] <SolarisBoy> its not?
[19:03] <baphomet1> SolarisBoy, apparently I was mistaken
[19:03] <baphomet1> at any rate, it didn't work.
[19:03] <SolarisBoy> apparently
[19:03] <SolarisBoy> well time out -
[19:03] <SolarisBoy> you have more steps to configure a raid card..
[19:03] <SolarisBoy> like entering the RAID bios
[19:04] <baphomet1> SolarisBoy, the card does not need to be used as a RAID controller
[19:04] <SolarisBoy> k does it need to be disabled as one in that case?
[19:04] <baphomet1> The point was to use the card strictly to increase the amount of sata ports on the board
[19:04] <SolarisBoy> ^^
[19:04] <baphomet1> don't follow
[19:05] <SolarisBoy> have you perused the RAID bios or configuration of that card if available?
[19:05] <human39> hey all -- I got got a new Acer aspire.  I'm wondering if anybody has successfully moved the OEM install of Win8 to a virtualbox guest?
[19:05] <SolarisBoy> generally there are a bunch of options on them..
[19:05] <human39> I'd rather run ubuntu as my host os.
[19:05] <baphomet1> SolarisBoy, I don't want/need to use it as a RAID card.  just something to increase the number of SATA ports as the board doesn't have enough
[19:05] <SolarisBoy> especially if they are intended to just be used as flat disks and not raid, im sure the controller needs to know that - and pretty sure there should be some BIOS you need to disable it..
[19:05] <SolarisBoy> ... didn't say you should..
[19:05] <SolarisBoy> said you should check the cards bios if available and ensure it knows that..
[19:06] <ChogyDan> baphomet1: I think he is saying to disable raid, and it may work simpler
[19:06] <justaguy> human39: no idea how to do that, but if you have a broadcom wifi adapter on that laptop and have problems with that i will help you for sure, i had problems with that too on my acer aspire 7560G
[19:06] <Johnny_Linux> good job SolarisBoy
[19:06] <baphomet1> ChogyDan, RAID is not enabled
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> ::face palm::
[19:06] <SolarisBoy> ill brb smokey time
[19:07] <baphomet1> SolarisBoy, no need to act like that.  not everyone is a linux  guru
[19:07] <SolarisBoy> act like what?
[19:07] <baphomet1> "::face palm::"
[19:07] <Johnny_Linux> if most that come here with complaints, would take at least 10 mins of research, there would be less rumors as well as headaches.
[19:07] <bazhang> baphomet1, how is this an ubuntu issue
[19:07] <SolarisBoy> well your issue has nothing to do with linux imho
[19:07] <Makuri> I think
[19:07] <bazhang> baphomet1, ##hardware
[19:07] <SolarisBoy> but ok. sorry you took it badly..
[19:08] <baphomet1> let me reask my question.  HAS ANYONE USED A SATA CARD WITH UBUNTU IN THE PAST? IF SO, WHICH CARD DID YOU USE?
[19:08] <baphomet1> does that help?
[19:08] <ChogyDan> bazhang: SolarisBoy: should his card work in Ubuntu?  (I don't know much about this)
[19:08] <SolarisBoy> yes
[19:08] <bazhang> baphomet1, no, and dont poll here
[19:08] <justaguy> baphomet1: please keep your caps off
[19:08] <SolarisBoy> Sata is generic and polling sata cards is silly
[19:08] <SolarisBoy> its supported bottom line.
[19:08] <baphomet1> SolarisBoy, how can you prove it?
[19:08] <SolarisBoy> most servers use sata cards
[19:09] <bazhang> baphomet1, its offtopic here, take it to ##hardware
[19:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh wow, one of these guys? I don't wanna hear it. time to ignore
[19:09] <SolarisBoy> ::shrugs:: ubuntu + server hardware == works
[19:09] <Makuri> My sound works if i load windows, restart and load ubuntu, but not if i just load ubuntu. It shows Dummy Output in sound
[19:09] <baphomet1> bazhang, how is it off-topic?
[19:09] <baphomet1> bazhang, if it doesn't work in ubuntu, how is it off topic?
[19:09] <SolarisBoy> if there was a issue with sata support we would know
[19:09] <SolarisBoy> baphomet1: if you put a Centos os on that drive it still won't work if the underlying hw is nto properly configured..
[19:09] <baphomet1> SolarisBoy, this isn't an issue of SATA support.  this is an issue with that specific card and ubuntu
[19:09] <bazhang> baphomet1, its a hardware issue, dont poll the channel any further
[19:09] <SolarisBoy> or AIX
[19:09] <SolarisBoy> doesn't matter
[19:09] <human39> justaguy: I can't find information on what chip the wifi card has.
[19:10] <human39> I'll find out as soon as it charges.
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> this is an issue of your card is likely in RAID mode and you haven't configured  a vdisk
[19:10] <baphomet1> bazhang, I am trying to get assistance and you are being eliteist
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> heh
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> nor have you confirmed either or, because you have not been in the bios - who is the elitest?
[19:10] <SupaYoshi> SolarisBoy, how can I make my browser trust these on all local machines? :P
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> or the dude named baphomet..
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> smh...
[19:10] <Makuri> why doesn't sound work when i just load ubuntu, but it does if i load windows, restart THEN load ubuntu?
[19:10] <SupaYoshi> and make the tbing green :P
[19:10] <SolarisBoy> time to smoke - your on ignore fix your won shit genius
[19:11] <ChogyDan> bazhang: he just wants a sata expansion card that works with Ubuntu.  It doesn't seem to be a terrible question...
[19:11] <baphomet1> ChogyDan, exactly.  everyone in here is acting like cunts
[19:11] <bazhang> ChogyDan, he can check the hcl
[19:11] <SolarisBoy> he can also read the instructions for the device he bought
[19:11] <bazhang> lets move on please
[19:12] <Makuri> so people don't know?
[19:12] <linuxuz3r> hi
[19:12] <laystus> hi
[19:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> bazhang: was that baph's ignore ip? I don't feel like having him bug me as I did make myself known to him.
[19:12] <bazhang> Makuri, open a terminal and type alsamixer , check to see nothing is muted
[19:12] <linuxuz3r> Makuri, you dont have audio sound at all?
[19:12] <ejv> ubuntu + server hardware does not necessarily work; 12.0.4.0 shipped with a pretty fatal mdraid flaw that many users were smitten with, myself included; like all things you must be vigilant during upgrades and migrations and have adequate backups
[19:13] <OerHeks> Makuri windows8 ?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> Makuri:  what does aplay -l show , pastebin it please
[19:13] <calwig> how can someone get widgets to go thru a proxy
[19:13] <SolarisBoy> ejv: on a wide scale it does work
[19:13] <Makuri> bazhang, I tried times, alsamixer only shows Beep when sound doesn't work
[19:14] <Makuri> linuxuz3r: yes
[19:14] <Makuri> OerHeks: xp
[19:14] <ejv> depends on the quality of the controls in the environment really; i don't think it quite has the robustness of say RHEL "yet"
[19:14] <BlitzHere> Hi all
[19:16] <BlitzHere> I'm planning to buy a laptop next week. I'll be getting a laptop without an OS, and putting Ubuntu on it
[19:16] <BlitzHere> I'm looking at this laptop
[19:16] <BlitzHere> http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-essential-g505s-59-379862-laptop-apu-quad-core-a8-8gb-1tb-dos-2-5gb-graph/p/itmdm5ukxfqvwkqf?pid=COMDM5UGX9QFNWAM&otracker=browse&pageNum=1
[19:17] <BlitzHere> I'd like to know if Ubuntu does OK with AMD CPUs. What about the GPUs. That particular laptop has a firewall GPU setup
[19:17] <BlitzHere> I read this article, here
[19:17] <BlitzHere> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[19:17] <ejv> yes it does "ok"; x86_64 kernels are quite mature. lol
[19:18] <ejv> i recommend a system76 with an intel chip, no hassle, known to work with ubuntu
[19:18] <Makuri> wait
[19:18] <BlitzHere> crossfire GPU setup
[19:18] <SolarisBoy> y
[19:18] <SolarisBoy> oops
[19:19] <ejv> https://www.system76.com/laptops
[19:19] <SolarisBoy> i really want one of those!
[19:19] <BlitzHere> ejv, if I was in the states, I wouldn't think twice
[19:19] <ejv> not affiliated with them, but i know many ubuntu users who like those products
[19:20] <BlitzHere> I'd get the new gazelle professional and be done with it
[19:20] <BlitzHere> But I'm in India
[19:20] <Makuri> i thought i was talking to 3 people ._. xD
[19:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> BlitzHere: I've never had issue with amd anythiing :P
[19:21] <BlitzHere> Anyway, I'm concerned about the GPU, especially because of this line
[19:21] <SolarisBoy> that bonobo is pleasant looking
[19:21] <xtriz> what are toolkit packages ?
[19:22] <Makuri> Makuri:
[19:22] <elitedev> https://www.system76.com/laptops
[19:22] <BlitzHere> ideo hardware acceleration with the Linux AMD driver is not as full featured as other OEMs, but there is some that can be enabled. To get video hardware acceleration (tested on 12.04 Precise Pangolin), you need to add four packages after installing the driver.
[19:23] <BlitzHere> ntzrmtthihu777: So, no driver issues. Is it a pain to setup?
[19:24] <BlitzHere> The only experience I save with proprietary drivers is when configuring an old Nvidia FX5200. And that involved apt-get install, and nvidia-xconfig...
[19:25] <MRNV> who BlitzHere
[19:25] <Artanis> How to tell bash where apt-get is?
[19:26] <roders> Hi, I am using ubuntu. I have a problem with the cam in skype. It works with cheese, it works in the video devices section, but when making a call the cam icon is not working. Any advice?
[19:26] <roders> Have looked in ubuntu forums, skype forums, everywhere..
[19:26] <blazemore> roders: Can you just clarify what version of Ubuntu you're using, and whether its 32 or 64 bit?
[19:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> BlitzHere: not really. if you have a good internet connection apt-get install fglrx (or whatever the proper one for your card is) will do it.
[19:27] <roders> blazemore: I use ubuntu 12.04 32 bits and skype 4.2. Cam works with cheese and under skype video devices, but when making a call the cam icon wont show/work.
[19:27] <BlitzHere> MRNV: Er, what? Or were you just trying to do a whois on me?
[19:28] <blazemore> roders: That's almost certainly an issue with Skype, not Ubuntu
[19:28] <blazemore> roders: Skype's Linux version is notoriously awful
[19:28] <SolarisBoy> sho is
[19:28] <lvleph> I am having trouble setting the dmask and fmask in fstab. I keep getting the following EXT3-fs (sda2): error: unrecognized mount option "dmask=000" or missing value
[19:28] <Artanis> How to tell bash where apt-get is???
[19:28] <roders> blazemore: I know, was just wondering if someone would know..
[19:29] <blazemore> lvleph: Please can you put your /etc/fstab file on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:29] <SolarisBoy> Artanis: as in the $PATH variable?
[19:29] <Artanis> solarisboy i dont know what that is it says bash: apt-get command not found
[19:29] <lvleph> blazemore: all I did was add ",dmask=000,fmask=111" after defaults
[19:30] <blazemore> lvleph: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[19:30] <lvleph> 13.04
[19:30] <[Gentoo]> Artanis: are you doing that as root or user
[19:30] <SolarisBoy> Artanis: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[19:30] <blazemore> lvleph: Can you just humour me and post it anyway?
[19:31] <lvleph> yes
[19:31] <MRNV> BlitzHere: ... yes, whois:) but your theme are interesting for me, cause I've been owner of thinkpad sometime ago
[19:31] <BlitzHere> ntzrmtthihu777: Hmm, okay. And what about the claims of bad video acceleration in that Ubuntu help article? They still hold true or is that article old? I intend to play some games on steam...
[19:31] <Artanis> solarisboy i think the latest
[19:32] <SolarisBoy> Artanis: please try to run "lsb_release -a" - apt-get should be present by default for all users. just want to ensure..
[19:32] <lvleph> http://pastebin.com/zUBep7Wy
[19:32] <timothyarnold> roders: try this in terminal. sudo gedit /usr/local/bin/skype then put this in the blank editor #!/bin/bash LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/bin/skype   Then save and close the editor, then in terminal paste this: sudo chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/skype exit skype then try your camera.
[19:32] <SolarisBoy> output should show your version information
[19:32] <lvleph> blazemore: http://pastebin.com/zUBep7Wy
[19:32] <Artanis> LSB Version:    1.3 Distributor ID: CentOS Description:    CentOS release 3.1 (final) Release:        3.1 Codename:       final
[19:33] <SolarisBoy> Artanis: thats not ubuntu
[19:33] <Johnny_Linux> uhhu
[19:33] <SolarisBoy> is what i though
[19:33] <SolarisBoy> *thought
[19:33] <jkoudys> when I was on 12.04, it had some kind of wallet/key manager, so every time I'd unlock my private ssh key, it would save that password and automatically unlock it when I used it until I logged out. I'm on raring now, and it prompts me in the text console each and every time to unlock. When running lots of ssh commands and scp this gets annoying fast - how do I get that key manager thing going again?
[19:33] <SolarisBoy> Artanis: for the record thats centos - the package manager is Yum - thats also old as heck
[19:33] <[Gentoo]> Artanis: wrong one lol
[19:33] <nosa-j> would anyone be so kind to tell me, the linux command to copy every child folder within a directory, to another direcotory?
[19:33] <nosa-j> also all files as well
[19:34] <SolarisBoy> nosa-j: cp -r
[19:34] <ChogyDan> nosa-j: what command have you tried?
[19:34] <nosa-j> cp /*
[19:34] <[Gentoo]> nosa-j: cp -r
[19:34] <SupaYoshi> mhm i got one more problem for samba shares...
[19:34] <blazemore> nosa-j: the command is "man cp"
[19:34] <[Gentoo]> nosa-j: if you dont want the parent folder then cp -r /folder/*
[19:34] <SolarisBoy> nosa-j: add -r for recursive copy
[19:34] <nosa-j> XD
[19:34] <nosa-j> and cp *
[19:34] <nosa-j> thanks
[19:34] <SolarisBoy> cp -r /source/* /dest/ moves all files/subfolders from source to under dest - nosa-j
[19:34] <ChogyDan> nosa-j: and the -r is typical for other commands as well
[19:35] <lvleph> SolarisBoy: copies not moves
[19:35] <Artanis> so how to fix it??
[19:35] <SolarisBoy> lvleph: yea my bad
[19:35] <SolarisBoy> =)
[19:35] <lvleph> :)
[19:35] <nosa-j> right looks like i mastered that now
[19:35] <[Gentoo]> Artanis: fix what
[19:35] <nosa-j> worked
[19:35] <[Gentoo]> Artanis: youre using centos apparently
[19:35] <[Gentoo]> format it
[19:35] <SolarisBoy> Artanis: nothing is wrong - your just on a different OS that you thought
[19:35] <bwayne> jkoudys: you can read about ssh-agent and gpg-agent setup here. http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/linux-crypto-sshgpg-agents/
[19:35] <SolarisBoy> Artanis: or go to #centos
[19:35] <lvleph> blazemore: did you get my link?
[19:36] <BlitzHere> MRNV: I looked at a think pad too actually
[19:36] <BlitzHere> http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-thinkpad-e530-33661g0-laptop-3rd-gen-ci3-2gb-500gb-dos/p/itmdnyhdpwndkzdk?pid=COMDNYH9BXEGCHGM&otracker=browse&pageNum=1
[19:37] <blazemore> lvleph: Can you tell me the full exact error you get from the command "sudo mount /media/Media" ? If it's multiple lines put it on pastebin
[19:37] <BlitzHere> But I've read somewhere that the track point on the 430 and 530 doesn't work Linux :(
[19:38] <Artanis> i looked on the Internet and am I right that yum is apt-get for centos??
[19:38] <reisio> Artanis: pretty much
[19:38] <[Gentoo]> Artanis: most distros have different package managers
[19:38] <reisio> #centos
[19:39] <lvleph> blazemore how do I pipe an output to pastebinit?
[19:39] <SolarisBoy> | pastebinit
[19:39] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipeline_%28Unix%29
[19:39] <roders> timothyarnold: Thanks but it didnt work
[19:39] <SolarisBoy> echo "output" | pastebinit posts output to pastebin, returns link on commandline
[19:39] <Ahmed__> I'm not sure if I'm supposed to ask this in a support channel since it's only a question driven by curiosity
[19:39] <[Gentoo]> | is a pipe
[19:39] <lvleph> thanks SolarisBoy didn't think it would be that straightforward
[19:40] <Ahmed__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6071807/
[19:40] <lvleph> blazemore: http://pastebin.com/v2yt04Ph
[19:40] <Ahmed__> what do the "y"s mean?
[19:40] <Ahmed__> and what does it mean when they are "m"s or "n"s?
[19:40] <[Gentoo]> means its enabled
[19:40] <[Gentoo]> m = module n = disabled
[19:40] <Ahmed__> Thanks, based gentoo
[19:40] <SolarisBoy> enabled and compiled into the kernel =)
[19:40] <Ahmed__> I shall install you one day
[19:41] <SolarisBoy> ew
[19:41] <nyl> xserver-xorg-video-intel depends xorg-video-abi-13 you have held broken packages
[19:41] <SolarisBoy> =)
[19:41] <nyl> >_>
[19:41] <Ahmed__> Isn't solaris like dead?
[19:41] <SolarisBoy> no
[19:41] <[Gentoo]> make sure you dont use a floppy though
[19:41] <lvleph> lol
[19:41] <Ahmed__> It's still maintained?
[19:41] <Ahmed__> Will do!
[19:42] <lvleph> I think some people still develop bOS
[19:42] <SolarisBoy> ? yes
[19:42] <Beatrix_Kiddo> hi
[19:42] <nyl> any ideas?
[19:42] <ChogyDan> nyl: pastebin the entire problem, with the command you ran and all output
[19:42] <blazemore> lvleph: I think maybe get rid of the "default" and just have the new options
[19:42] <nyl> xorg crashed
[19:42] <nyl> xD
[19:42] <Ahmed__> Why pastebin? paste.ubuntu.com doesn't have annoying ads
[19:43] <blazemore> Pastebin in the generic I guess, it slips into your language
[19:43] <lvleph> blazemore: I tried user,auto,dmask=000,fmask=111 and that didn't work either.
[19:43] <MRNV> BlitzHere: now I have DELL Precesion 2600  and DELL Latitude E6400 ATG with Xubuntu 12.10 on both, I think both of them a litle better then Lenovo, my IBM model was T400
[19:43] <ChogyDan> Ahmed__: yeah, I just meant to use a pasting website,  I didn't want them to paste in chat  OO
[19:44] <blazemore> lvleph: You still haven't given me the output from "sudo mount /media/Media"
[19:44] <lvleph> because it said to look at dmesg | tail which is what I gave you blazemore
[19:44] <blazemore> Fair enough, thanks
[19:45] <lvleph> blazemore: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2,
[19:45] <lvleph>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[19:45] <lvleph>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[19:45] <lvleph>        dmesg | tail  or so
[19:45] <lvleph> sorry
[19:45] <FloodBot1> lvleph: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <MRNV> help
[19:45] <lvleph> I said sorry faster than FloodBot1 could warn me
[19:45] <lvleph> lol
[19:46] <SupaYoshi> ive a certain samba user allowed for a share, and he cant connect to it
[19:46] <blazemore> lvleph: There aren't actually any errors in dmesg though, that's the odd thing. Unmount it (umount /media/Media) and remount it (sudo mount /media/Media)
[19:47] <lvleph> that is where the error comes from blazemore
[19:47] <lvleph> and there are errors in the dmesg
[19:47] <lvleph> EXT3-fs (sda2): error: unrecognized mount option "dmask=000" or missing value
[19:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> BlitzHere: sorry, I'm connected via ssh, and I had to close connetion for some other modding.
[19:47] <[Gentoo]> lvleph: whats in the fstab?
[19:48] <lvleph> I just don't know why it thinks that is not an option
[19:48] <lvleph> [Gentoo]: http://pastebin.com/zUBep7Wy
[19:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> BlitzHere: I've never had issue with my card, but I don't use a helluva lot of new games. Minecraft works fine, as long as I keep my gpu cool.
[19:48] <blazemore> lvleph: Yes but look at the timestamps on them. the most recent one seemed to succeed
[19:48] <lvleph> The most recent was because I needed to mount it and removed the option blazemore
[19:49] <blazemore> ahhh
[19:49] <lvleph> sorry
[19:49] <blazemore> Good I thought I was actually going bananas
[19:49] <BlitzHere> ntzrmtthihu777: Thanks!
[19:49] <nyl_> ChogyDan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6071842/
[19:49] <lvleph> blazemore: obviously umask works, but I need different permissions. So this sucks.
[19:49] <[Gentoo]> or isnt it in there
[19:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> /bin/sh: 1: inxi: not found
[19:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> BlitzHere:  My system, check the card against yours
[19:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> huh?
[19:50] <lvleph> what [Gentoo] ?
[19:50] <ChogyDan> nyl_: any idea how this happened?  Why are you trying to install that?
[19:51] <blazemore> lvleph: Can you run the command sudo blkid -c /dev/null
[19:51] <ChogyDan> nyl_: did you ever install an xserver type ppa?
[19:52] <blazemore> lvleph: See what it says the UUID of the partition is, make sure it matches up to fstab
[19:52] <nyl_> yea
[19:52] <Guest8623> im not a programmer so writing a script to do this my thing. Could anyone help me to write a curl command to say if www.defcon.org = http status code 200 then email blah@blah.com ? thank you
[19:52] <lvleph> blazemore: http://pastebin.com/CJSDCh2C
[19:52] <ikonia> Guest8623: look at the return codes of curl
[19:52] <ChogyDan> nyl_: you need to remove the ppa following the directions listed.  It should involve ppa-purge
[19:52] <MDesigner> hey, which channel has all the ubuntu developer teams hanging around?
[19:52] <nyl_> ChogyDan, 14.1 right now
[19:53] <Guest8623> i have by using the -I command
[19:53] <blazemore> yes lvleph it's as I thought, the UUID isn't the same.
[19:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> BlitzHere: http://sprunge.us/jWWP My system, check the card against yours
[19:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> there we go.
[19:53] <ChogyDan> nyl_: then you should ask in #ubuntu+1.
[19:53] <lvleph> why does it say sec_type="ext2" blazemore ?
[19:53] <[Gentoo]> lvleph: cant you change the permissions of the mount folder
[19:53] <nyl_> i installed optimus nvidia drivers
[19:54] <lvleph> [Gentoo]: I want it to set certain permissions when new files and folders are created.
[19:54] <blazemore> lvleph: sudo sed -i 's/80f2cb76-43f8-40ad-9fa3-92862ce37fac/bcf33aef-ff8d-4d4b-8aa7-9feff3e8cfca/' /etc/fstab
[19:54] <lvleph> My wife is annoyed that I make things and she can't access them.
[19:55] <reisio> first we should establish if you feel that your wife will actually cease to be annoyed if you fix this :p
[19:55] <lvleph> why would I do that blazemore ?
[19:56] <lvleph> That doesn't even make sense to do blazemore
[19:59] <Artanis> when i try to install deluge bit torrent it just hangs
[20:01] <Artanis> how to install deluge
[20:02] <[Gentoo]> might as well use transmission or something decent
[20:02] <bazhang> Artanis, where are you installing it from; paste.ubuntu.com with the errors you get
[20:02] <Artanis> no errors it just hangs there
[20:02] <lvleph> blazemore: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-750356.html
[20:03] <lvleph> [Gentoo]: was on the right track
[20:03] <blazemore> Did I just completely miss the fact it's an ext3 partition?
[20:03] <blazemore> I hereby revoke any years of experience administering Linux systems I have accrued
[20:04] <blazemore> I tend to assume when people have big second drives called "media", that they're ntfs because people dual-boot Windows :)
[20:04] <lvleph> lol
[20:04] <Johnny_Linux> ill back you up blazemore , ive watched you in action, if i ever had a problem, id hunt you down.
[20:04] <lvleph> I hate windows
[20:05] <lvleph> my wife uses it to play games so that is why the partition is ext3 blazemore
[20:05] <lvleph> there are drivers for ext3 in winblows now
[20:05] <blazemore> There are, but they are way suckier than the ntfs drivers in Linux
[20:05] <lvleph> Okay, I have another question then
[20:05] <dry[1]> hi. Java in my Ubuntu is working on browsers only. All conditions (specs) in related thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2171255
[20:05] <lvleph> Yeah, but she doesn't like windows either
[20:06] <Artanis> anyone??
[20:06] <lvleph> okay, how do I set default file permissions for a particular partition?
[20:06] <lvleph> oh and rsync doesn't like ntfs blazemore
[20:06] <blazemore> You can just set the permissions of the mountpoint before mounting
[20:07] <BlitzHere> ntzrmtthihu777: Thanks a lot! That helps!
[20:07] <evermean> Are any officials here?
[20:07] <blazemore> You don't have to do anything special, it's ext it supports all the UNIX permissions like you'd expect
[20:07] <lvleph> so I can have different permissions for folders and files? blazemore
[20:07] <blazemore> ask your real question evermean
[20:07] <tgm4883> evermean, officials?
[20:07] <evermean> Just wanted to give some feedback about USB installation of Ubuntu Server 13.04 x64
[20:07] <blazemore> lvleph: Yes it doesn't matter its external.
[20:07] <guntbert> evermean: this is the ubuntu support channel. Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:08] <tgm4883> evermean, that would probably be better in #ubuntu-server
[20:08] <guntbert> !bugs | evermean
[20:08] <blazemore> evermean: If there's a problem or something we can help you file a bug maybe
[20:08] <evermean> No I just wanted to give you feedback on how I resolved my problem
[20:09] <Artanis> ok I have an error message now
[20:09] <evermean> In case that someone else has the same and needs help
[20:09] <jackarg> anyone know a good free proxy/vpn (easy to install) for ubuntu?
[20:09] <evermean> I was in here before and noone knew the answer
[20:09] <[Gentoo]> jackarg: tor
[20:09] <Artanis> http://pastebin.com/8EpcSXST
[20:10] <BlitzHere> I'll do some more research before making the purchase but your vote of confidence helps
[20:10] <evermean> So I tried to install Ubuntu Server 13.04 x64 on a box that has no CD-ROM
[20:10] <jackarg> [Gentoo] a proxy or vpn?
[20:10] <Electron> allo
[20:11] <blazemore> evermean: You should make a post on the forum, then someone with the same issue can find it way more easily than trying to go through year-old IRC logs
[20:11] <energizer> I dont understand how to recursively copy files, ignoring the directory structure. Help?
[20:11] <Electron> energizer
[20:11] <evermean> blazemore, good idea i'll do that
[20:11] <energizer> Electron: hi
[20:12] <blazemore> energizer: Ignoring directory structure? You want all files including those in directories, copied out into a new directory of their own?
[20:12] <Electron> no
[20:12] <energizer> blazemore: yup
[20:12] <evermean> blazemore, short answer to ubuntu install via usb always use the Startup Dis Creator
[20:12] <evermean> blazemore, nothing else seems to work
[20:12] <blazemore> energizer: for f in `find /path/to/source -type f`; do cp $f /path/to/destination; done
[20:13] <blazemore> energizer: There might be a prettier way to do it, but that's what I'd do
[20:13] <rickyc> could someone tell me if Canonical is developing "Core Apps" for the Desktop similar to the way they are doing with the Phone? And what will Unity 8 do for desktop, I thouight it was just Phone?
[20:13] <Electron> energizer ask
[20:14] <Artanis> retrygrab() failed for:   http://vault.centos.org/3.1/addons/i386/headers/header.info   Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://vault.centos.org/3.1/addons/i386/headers/header.info [Errno 7] HTTP Error (CannotSendRequest):
[20:14] <energizer> thanks blazemore.
[20:14] <Electron> hello Artanis
[20:14] <energizer> Electron blazemore's answer is what i needed. thanks.
[20:14] <ikonia> Electron: could you join is un #ubuntu-ops for a moment please.
[20:14] <Artanis> after it hangs for 2 minutes it says that error
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> rickyc, this is support a bit out of our knowledge area.
[20:15] <rickyc> wilee-nilee where do I find ubuntu news :(
[20:15] <rickyc> im new to it not sure where to loook aside google
[20:15] <bazhang> Artanis, are you on centOS
[20:16] <bazhang> rickyc, fridge.ubuntu.com
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> rickyc, not sure to be honest, kind of in house info really in any empirical sense
[20:17] <Artanis> yes bazhang
[20:17] <Electron> i have riddle
[20:17] <Artanis> solarisboy told me yum was the apt-get
[20:17] <bazhang> !ot | Electron
[20:17] <Electron> ikonia ask
[20:17] <bazhang> Artanis, #centos
[20:17] <arklord> shoud Install the driver that the intel site show me for my Hd 4000
[20:17] <Artanis> ?
[20:17] <arklord> shoud i Install the driver that the intel site show me for my Hd 4000?
[20:17] <Artanis> no output
[20:17] <bazhang> Artanis, this is not cent os support
[20:18] <bazhang> Artanis, go to their channel #centos
[20:18] <Artanis> Oh I see
[20:19] <Artanis> #centos Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[20:19] <ikonia> Artanis: ask in #freenode how to register an account
[20:19] <bazhang> Artanis, register  go to #freenode for help with that
[20:20] <IdleOne> !register | Artanis
[20:21] <valex_> hi
[20:24] <JamoBox> Hey, I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 with two monitors. I was wondering if there is a way to only show the system tray on one of the monitors, by default both the monitors have the tray/toolbar options on them which looks inconsistant
[20:25] <chaotic_good> oh theres always a way
[20:25] <JamoBox> right, but my question was aimed more towards the "did anyone know that way" end of things
[20:25] <reisio> JamoBox: might talk to the #gnome guys about it, although Unity might nullify their expertise
[20:26] <reisio> it's pretty simple to do with Xfce
[20:26] <ro9> hello
[20:26] <JamoBox> I have tried various wordings of google searchs but can't see anything relevant
[20:26] <reisio> ro9: 'lo
[20:26] <JamoBox> reisio: Alright, thanks. and yeah, the whole unity thing is why I tried here first
[20:27] <Artanis>  « /msg nickserv register baseball94 artanis@gmail.com »
[20:27] <justaguy> fail
[20:27] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[20:28] <ro9> how to remove old kernels piling in boot folder
[20:28] <IdleOne> Artanis: there should not be a space or any other symbols before the /
[20:28] <Artanis> it still says #centos Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[20:28] <ikonia> ro9: look up the linux-image-* packages in the package manager and remove then
[20:28] <Artanis> OK thanks idleone
[20:28] <IdleOne> you will also want to change your password now that you have showed it to this channel
[20:28] <Artanis> How do I do that?
[20:29] <ikonia> Artanis: ask in #freenode for how to do all this -
[20:29] <IdleOne> Artanis: you haven't yet registered your nickname because you sent the command to the channel and not the server
[20:29] <ro9> ikonia: thanks
[20:30] <Artanis> I have now idleone
[20:30] <IdleOne> Artanis: alright, check your email follow the instructions and then you should be able to join #centos.
[20:30] <Artanis> Thank you
[20:33] <Yaxel> Hello
[20:34] <path0gen> Hello Yaxel
[20:34] <Yaxel> Is this where I can find help related to ubuntu?
[20:34] <path0gen> Yes sir
[20:34] <Yaxel> I'm new to IRC :|
[20:35] <Yaxel> And Unix for that matter
[20:35] <path0gen> welcome
[20:35] <timothyarnold> Welcome aboard.
[20:35] <path0gen> im new on this channel as well
[20:35] <Yaxel> Thanks
[20:35] <reisio> ahoy
[20:36] <Yaxel> Well, I recently installed Ubuntu 13.04 and I've been getting these graphical errors
[20:36] <delinquentme> So If apt-get installs the wrong version of a package ... from command line
[20:36] <delinquentme> is that considered a bug?
[20:36] <guntbert> Yaxel: just ask your question please
[20:36] <reisio> delinquentme: potentially, sure
[20:37] <IdleOne> apt always installs the most recent package available in the repos you have in sources.
[20:37] <path0gen> ^
[20:37] <chaotic_good> anyone know best way to install vmware tools on ubuntu?
[20:37] <path0gen> delinquentme: if you need a lower version to support another package, youll have to do a manual installation. purge the current installation before hand
[20:38] <Yaxel> Sorry, I've been getting repeating lines on startup and nothing works. I tried Alt + SysReq + REISUB too.
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> delinquentme, did you specify, and what is the correct in your definition?
[20:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> ro9: dpkg --get-selections | grep 'linux-headers|linux-image'
[20:38] <reisio> chaotic_good: #vmware?
[20:39] <sig357> Hello all, I have a premission issue using NFS. I can only view the content of the share if the folder permission (on the server) is set to 0777, which is not preferred. Any ideas how to allow access while tightning permissions? Thank you
[20:39] <delinquentme> path0gen, sudo apt-get --purge remove libusb-1.0-0-dev ?
[20:40] <delinquentme> wilee-nilee, IDK what specify means in this context
[20:40] <path0gen> sig357: 0777 allows read/write/execute for all - set the permissions to 0444 if you want to allow read access for everyone
[20:40] <delinquentme> basically I'm running a permutation of ubuntu for SBCs called linaro ... and the linaro board installed the ubuntu precise version of a package. ... when there is a more specific version explicitly for linaro
[20:41] <Yaxel> How can I change from the Open Source Xorg video drivers to NVidia proprietary ones? It wont't let me in the "Additional Drivers" part of the settings.
[20:41] <sig357> I would like to setup rw access to only my client ip address. is this possible?
[20:41] <hydruid> delinquentme: no need to purge, just remove and then dpkg -i correct-package.deb
[20:41] <ro9> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks
[20:41] <sig357> Or my client user etc.
[20:42] <hydruid> sig357: please give additional info, what you're asking doesn't make sense
[20:43] <hydruid> !info | sip357
[20:43] <hydruid> !details | sip357
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> Yaxel, those wont be supported, just info.
[20:44] <sig357> I apologize for not being clear. Basically to access my share I have to enable guest permissions. Is there a way to tighten this permission to only user & group level access and still have the share usable.
[20:45] <hydruid> sig357: What kind of share is it?
[20:45] <sig357> nfs
[20:46] <chaotic_good> who here is a tmux user?
[20:46] <Yaxel> wilee-nilee: By not supported you mean that NVidia is responsible for buxfixes and not the Open Source Community or that it just won't work on the machine at all.
[20:46] <delinquentme> hydruid, I've downloaded what seems like the package from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-leb/+source/libusb-1.0/2:1.0.8-4  ... and unzipped it ... but I see no .deb files within ....    what about libusb-1.0-0-dev.install
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> Yaxel, not supported here, as well not going to follow kernel upgrades requiring a reinstal
[20:47] <hydruid> sig357: set the permissions of the mounted nfs volume......problem solved
[20:47] <hydruid> delinquentme: you downloaded the source, not the debian package
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> Of the driver Yaxel
[20:48] <hydruid> delinquentme: I thought you had a specific deb you wanted to install that was specific to your machine?
[20:48] <Yaxel> wilee-nille: Oh, herp derp. Thanks!
[20:49] <delinquentme> hydruid, I has a specific package # ... but I'm trying to locate the .deb package
[20:49] <delinquentme> http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-13.10/ubuntu-main-i386/libusb-1.0-0_1.0.16-3_i386.deb.html  << this doesn't look reputable
[20:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> delinquentme: why not apt-get download libusb?
[20:50] <sig357> hydruid: Thank you. I will look into this.
[20:50] <hydruid> delinquentme: if it's a package specific to "linaro" why are you searching the ubuntu packages?
[20:50] <ro9> ntzrmtthihu777: i got a list of linux-image-XXX install, then what
[20:50] <hydruid> delinquentme: is it a specific version of an ubuntu package that you need?
[20:50] <delinquentme> ntzrmtthihu777, it gives me the wrong package number
[20:51] <delinquentme> hydruid, its a specific linaro package “libusb-1.0” 2:1.0.8-4 source package in Ubuntu Linaro Evaluation Build
[20:51] <hydruid> delinquentme: please be more specific, does it give you an error, or is it simply installing the wrong version?
[20:51] <delinquentme> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-leb/+source/libusb-1.0/2:1.0.8-4
[20:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> ro9: after that, apt-get remove linux-image-(the one you want to get rid of)
[20:51] <guntbert> chaotic_good: just ask your real question
[20:51] <delinquentme> hydruid, no error . it installs, however the USBs dont work as they should
[20:52] <ro9> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks you very much
[20:52] <hydruid> delinquentme: I see.....so you are trying to locate a specific version of the libusb package that you know will work........correct?
[20:52] <delinquentme> hydruid, nailed it
[20:52] <hydruid> delinquentme: what version do you need
[20:53] <delinquentme> 2:1.0.8-4
[20:53] <valex_> how can i change fan speed on ubuntu?
[20:53] <delinquentme> libusb-1.0
[20:53] <smaudet> Any apt-get/dpkg/debhelper gurus in here? I've found a performance bottleneck in the install process (I think), and I want help to try to fix it. When I install some applications, the trigger hicolors is being called, which causes gtk-update-icon-cache --force to be called, which then rebuilds the entire icon cache. Where can I go to edit this trigger so that I can test if the rebuild of the icon cache is the performance bottleneck?
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> Valex_, you might start with installing lm-sensors
[20:54] <delinquentme> however when running sudo apt-get install libusb-1.0=2:1.0.8-4   I can has the fails
[20:54] <valex_> wilee-nilee, done that, pwmconfig says there are no sensors or smth like that
[20:55] <hydruid> delinquentme: I searched and didn't find a package with that version.....
[20:55] <valex_> the amd processor fan is too loud
[20:55] <kenniskrag> Valex_, whats about fancontrol package?
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> valex_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[20:55] <hydruid> delinquentme: what version of ubuntu does linaro spawn from?
[20:55] <speaker1234> how can I find out the currently active window and how to inject keystrokes into an appplication?
[20:56] <hydruid> delinquentme: I think the command would be sudo apt-get install libusb=2:1.0.8-4
[20:56] <delinquentme> hydruid, precise DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Linaro 12.11"
[20:56] <hydruid> delinquentme: but doesn't matter I don't see a package published with that version...
[20:57] <satmandu> Anybody here use ubuntu on a mac laptop?
[20:57] <hydruid> delinquentme: try the packages list here, starting with the newest ones and going back one by one, until you find one that works: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libusb&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[20:57] <guntbert> !anyone | satmandu
[20:57] <valex_> wilee-nilee, it said something like module-init-tools: unrecognized service
[20:58] <hydruid> guntbert: Use Ubuntu.....on mac....you do?
[20:58] <hydruid> lol
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> valex_, on the start of it, it does that check the temps
[20:58] <satmandu> ubottu: word.  I don't have X enabled on a current EFI/ubuntu install on a MacBookPro3,1.  I want the screen to turn off when idle.
[20:58] <satmandu> how do I do that?
[20:59] <satmandu> basically, when idle, the screen does go blank, but doesn't power off
[20:59] <satmandu> is there a command line dpms like way to shut power off to the screen?  I clearly can't use xset...
[21:00] <smaudet> satmandu: don't have X? I didn't think any Ubuntu version didn't use X at all yet.
[21:00] <hydruid> satmandu: http://systembash.com/content/how-to-turn-off-your-monitor-via-command-line-in-ubuntu/
[21:00] <satmandu> Well, I don't have X installed, as I'm running the box as a server...
[21:00] <smaudet> Except maybe 13.10, which isn't out of beta
[21:01] <hydruid> satmandu: that link I sent you is exactly what you need
[21:01] <satmandu> hydruid: That suggests using xset
[21:01] <satmandu> hmmm.  I'll try it
[21:02] <smaudet> satmandu, hydruid: he wants to turn off of his virtual terminals
[21:02] <smaudet> I think
[21:02] <smaudet> Or he has X installed and doesn't realize it
[21:02] <satmandu> I'm on with the virtual terminals... I just want the screen to power off when idle
[21:03] <satmandu> I'm _ok_ with the VTs...
[21:03] <satmandu> hydruid: the xset script doesn't work.  xset:  unable to open display ":0.0"
[21:03] <hydruid> satmandu: tinker with it....you'll figure it out
[21:04] <satmandu> Doen
[21:04] <satmandu> doesn't xset require x to be installed?
[21:04] <satmandu> some xserver loaded and working?
[21:05] <smaudet> satmandu: try 'setterm -powerdown 1'
[21:05] <satmandu> I'm trying to avoid having any xserver loaded at all.  EFI + linux on these macs is a little weird.  You often don't get the graphics card drivers loaded properly... so I'm trying to avoid using the nouveau or nvidia drivers here...
[21:05] <satmandu> smaudet: trying that...
[21:06] <satmandu> 'sudo vbetool dpms off' doesn't work... just runs vbetool at 100% CPU...
[21:08] <EleanorEllis> Hi. I want to synchronise a folder on my ubuntu laptop with a windows server at work. I can get folder access to the windows share via samba when I have a network connection but I want to be able to work on local copies of the files when I dont have connectivity and then synchronise when I do have connectivity. I thought of doing this with Unison and mounting the samba share on my laptop but what would happen if the network connection disappeared while
[21:08] <satmandu> smaudet: 'setterm -powersave powerdown' gives 'setterm: cannot (un)set powersave mode: Inappropriate ioctl for device' so I don't think that would work...
[21:08] <satmandu> though maybe that tells me it isn't possible without some sort of special display driver loaded... ;-/
[21:09] <smaudet> satmandu: try something else then, not the only setterm command
[21:09] <smaudet> I'm not gonna pop into an vte just to test this for you, good luck with setterm
[21:10] <satmandu> smaudet: thanks for the help... I think the setterm error definitely tells me where to start poking away with drivers :-)
[21:10] <speaker1234> EleanorEllis: you can use a varity of tools
[21:10] <smaudet> satmandu: your welcome
[21:10] <speaker1234> isyncd to sync via google drive is the easiest for me
[21:11] <EleanorEllis> speaker1234: Thanks. Do you have any suggestions? My main question is what happens if I have a windows share mounted via samba and the network disappears.
[21:11] <speaker1234> the share vanishes
[21:11] <speaker1234> it also depends on the sync tool
[21:11] <speaker1234> you can loose the other copy
[21:12] <speaker1234> you can get a full sync to replace what vanished
[21:12] <EleanorEllis> speaker1234:Would I risk corrupting files on the server?
[21:12] <speaker1234> there is no good automatic resync
[21:13] <speaker1234> it depends
[21:13] <speaker1234> tell me again your configuration please
[21:14] <SupaYoshi> does anybody have experience with truecrypt containers and cloud storage?
[21:14] <SupaYoshi> I wonder if the container i upload to for example dropbox or better, copy.com are reuploaded completly each time?
[21:14] <SupaYoshi> Or just the changes, so that the upload size retains small format.
[21:15] <SupaYoshi> The answers i get from google are controversial
[21:15] <EleanorEllis> speaker1234: Ubuntu on laptop. Windows server on the remote server. We have an encrypted network connection using Juniper Network Connect but once Network Connect is up, then I have access as if I was on the LAN at work.
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> SupaYoshi, dropbox does not have your key what do you think
[21:17] <EleanorEllis> speaker1234: And I don't manage the server so I only have user access to it. Needless to say, our IT department don't support linux so I am on my own. I was quite pleased to get Network Connect to work on Ubuntu so I dont have to run windows just to access the work network.
[21:17] <EleanorEllis> speaker1234: What I mean is I will not be able to install or configure anything on the server
[21:17] <SupaYoshi> :P wilee-nilee, yes I do know this ;) hah! But some people say that dropbox is very smart and does this correctly somehow?
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> SupaYoshi, all you have to do is check your self and or ask them
[21:19] <boopms> سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ
[21:19] <roland> j #twrp
[21:20] <SupaYoshi> wilee-nilee, i suppose so yeah . ;) but if somebody knew here, that would be easier. hehe
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> SupaYoshi, your going to trust opinions here, hey I gotta bridge for sale ;)
[21:22] <Windy> hello, networking question, is there a way to access my windows box with my ubuntu laptop from a different network?
[21:23] <reisio> Windy: so many ways
[21:24] <reisio> Windy: look into no-ip, dyndns, etc.
[21:25] <soman> Is there something like autohotkey for ubuntu? I nned to check Window is active then get pressed key and programatically press keys
[21:26] <reisio> soman: xdotool, xautomation, autokey
[21:26] <reisio> in order of preference
[21:27] <Windy> That's the same thing as using an IP address, right? Does any method using this actually allow proper file sharing, or merely accessing?
[21:27] <Windy> @ reisio
[21:28] <reisio> Windy: you can do literally anything with an ip address
[21:28] <reisio> what they actually do is keep your ip from constantly changing on you
[21:28] <reisio> you can technically have one computer broadcast its ever-changing ip to you in a variety of ways
[21:28] <reisio> but that has security implications
[21:29] <Windy> what kind of keywords should I be using to find information on this, or do you have any tutorials I can look at? I literally don't know enough to learn here.
[21:30] <reisio> well for no-ip, dyndns, etc., all the information is on the sites
[21:30] <reisio> for file sharing there are all sorts of options
[21:30] <reisio> nfs, samba, sshfs (nice and simple)
[21:31] <OerHeks> ubuntu one :-)
[21:32] <reisio> yeah you could use another server
[21:32] <LinuxGold> trying to figure out to prevent Ubuntu server from turning monitor off
[21:33] <LinuxGold> I want htop on at all of times
[21:33] <reisio> LinuxGold: setterm -blank 0 or something
[21:33] <LinuxGold> thx, checking man setterm
[21:33] <reisio> LinuxGold: that'll work until you reboot, there's probably a config file to make it enduring
[21:34] <Windy> reisio, I wonder if we have the same definition of "file sharing". I'm talking like Google Docs, where I can edit the file from either computer.
[21:34] <LinuxGold> k
[21:34] <reisio> Windy: okay, how about google docs, then?
[21:34] <Windy> blender files.
[21:34] <d1gital> getting missing install CD error on install from thumbdrive (dd'd).  I think I remember having to pass a kernel arg to get this to work.. how do I tell it to install from the usb drive?
[21:35] <Windy> and I was using dropbox for a long time, but I have a lot of media files I don't want to deal with copying.
[21:35] <reisio> Windy: with copying?
[21:35] <Windy> to dropbox. As in, I don't have enough space for it all.
[21:36] <soman> reisio: thanks
[21:36] <reisio> Windy: okay, so how about google docs
[21:37] <reisio> Windy: ubuntu one does 5gb
[21:37] <reisio> google drive does...
[21:37] <reisio> 15
[21:37] <napsc> Windy why don't you just setup ssh on Windows box?  Lookup cygwin
[21:37] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_online_backup_services http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_hosting_services
[21:37] <reisio> or as previously mentioned, you could connect directly to/from your _two_ boxes alone
[21:38] <steve-gb> windy have you tried running a media server?
[21:38] <reisio> napsc: well he's got the Ubuntu box already, so he can just use ssh on that
[21:38] <Lunitome> I installed gnome-shell on Lubuntu 13.04, but Gnome isn't in the menu when I login in. Is there something else to install?
[21:38] <Windy> I want to share all the files. All 155 GB that I have, and more as I get them.
[21:39] <Lunitome> "gnome-shell"
[21:39] <reisio> Lunitome: lightdm, probs
[21:39] <reisio> Windy: yeah definitely not a third party server, then, unless you want to spend loads of cash
[21:39] <Lunitome> reisio: ?
[21:39] <reisio> Windy: no-ip + ssh is a good start
[21:39] <reisio> Lunitome: is there something else to install? -> lightdm, probably
[21:40] <napsc> reisio: right... but i'm under the impression he's using the laptop as the 'client'
[21:40] <Lunitome> reisio: so gdm doesnt work? lol
[21:40] <LinuxGold> added setterm -blank 0 -powerdown 0 -powersave off  /dev/tty$(index) where index (seq 1 6) to rc.local
[21:40] <LinuxGold> thanks
[21:40] <reisio> napsc: doesn't really matter which box is serving
[21:41] <reisio> LinuxGold: you cheater :p
[21:41] <LinuxGold> *=
[21:41] <reisio> Lunitome: no it should
[21:41] <LinuxGold> =D
[21:41] <reisio> Lunitome: are you running gdm?
[21:41] <Lunitome> reisio: yes
[21:41] <reisio> Lunitome: and if you log in, what do you get?
[21:42] <napsc> um, well, i don't play with windows anymore... but i didn't think it came ootb with ssh
[21:42] <CurlyGrogan> IRC server recommendations? Someone had said "Athene" maybe? is that spelled right?
[21:42] <Lunitome> reisio: about 7 or something other things
[21:42] <Taylr0x> Hi all. Currently running my laptop using my TV (via HDMI cable) as my display output however the audio appears to be coming from the laptop still. Anyone got any idea on how to get the audio to output via the TV using the HDMI cable?
[21:42] <Lunitome> reisio: like lubuntu, default, openbox
[21:44] <steve-gb> Windy if you want to share all that why dont you setup FTP? then you can use many accounts for sharing
[21:44] <reisio> Lunitome: default?
[21:44] <Lunitome> reisio: loads lxde
[21:45] <Windy> reisio: ssh is a good start, is there a good way to get a graphic display?
[21:45] <reisio> Lunitome: you know you want to abandon lxde, or do you just want to _try_ gnome?
[21:45] <Lunitome> reisio: closest thing to "Gnome" is "Gnome/openbox" that doesnt work
[21:45] <reisio> Windy: you can mount directories over ssh and use your ordinary GUI file manager on either FS
[21:45] <Windy> reisio :O yeah that's what I want.
[21:45] <Lunitome> reisio: i want to use gnome normal, if it doesnt work good i could reinstall, i didnt do alot on this install yet
[21:46] <reisio> napsc: it doesn't, you'd want a 3rd party sshfs implementation, or the like
[21:46] <reisio> Windy: okay :) so set up no-ip/dyndns/whatever, and make sure sshd is running on Ubuntu box
[21:46] <reisio> Windy: and use http://code.google.com/p/win-sshfs/ on Windows
[21:46] <reisio> Windy: done
[21:47] <reisio> Lunitome: you could try part of the command to remove lubuntu at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[21:47] <reisio> Lunitome: and then see if it works, or re-install gnome-shell and see
[21:48] <reisio> there's just some config file tripping your system up somewehre
[21:48] <Lunitome> @rei k
[21:48] <reisio> I'm afraid I don't know which one :)
[21:48] <Lunitome> reisio:  k
[21:48] <Lunitome> rei i just installed "gnome-shell" and what it installed
[21:49] <Lunitome> reisio: so copy the remove lubuntu command?
[21:49] <reisio> Lunitome: except for the && sudo bit on the end
[21:49] <reisio> or make it && sudo apt-get install gnome-shell if you like
[21:50] <reisio> it's a silly and tedious way to fix such a thing
[21:50] <reisio> but I think it may well work :p
[21:51] <zimbo> is port 631 (ipp) supposed to be open on a default desktop install of ubuntu?
[21:51] <napsc> reisio: I think we're thinking the same thing.  I said to install cygwin to get ssh on the windows box. that's all.
[21:51] <Lunitome> reisio: i just installed gnome-shell and not ubuntugnome or anything else
[21:51] <Lunitome> reisio: should it still work?
[21:51] <reisio> napsc: :)
[21:52] <reisio> napsc: for sshfs?
[21:52] <reisio> Lunitome: some config you have is predisposed to LXDE, because you had all that stuff installed first
[21:53] <napsc> yes... i usually just install openSSH on boxes i want to reach.
[21:53] <Lunitome> reisio: so mean that its only looking for lxde because config?
[21:53] <Lunitome> reisio: im trying the command now
[21:54] <reisio> well, yes
[21:54] <reisio> there're configurations, and there's magic
[21:54] <reisio> only magic doesn't exist :)
[21:54] <zimbo> port 631 (ipp) - is it supposed to be open by default?
[21:55] <CurlyGrogan> IRC server recommendations? Someone had said "Athene" maybe? is that spelled right?
[21:55] <Lunitome> reisio: lxde is open when im trying the command, is that ok or should i log out?
[21:56] <reisio> Lunitome: doesn't matter
[21:56] <histo> zimbo: depends do you have cups installed?
[21:56] <Lunitome> rei k
[21:56] <Lunitome> reisio: k
[21:57] <zimbo> histo: yes
[21:57] <Lunitome> reisio: errors
[21:58] <histo> zimbo: then cups is listening on 631.
[21:58] <Lunitome> reisio: http://pastebin.com/vp9fWpsm
[21:58] <histo> zimbo: open a browser and http://localhost:631
[21:58] <zimbo> histo: guess i should have known that, thanks
[21:59] <badass> does anyone know if the samba configuration option for include supports wildcards?
[21:59] <Windy> reisio: thanks for all your help, I'll try this later.
[21:59] <badass> I'm trying to get a similar feature of nginx / apache's conf.d
[21:59] <badass> include /etc/samba/config/*
[21:59] <badass> something like that
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> Hmm,, Weird. Downloaded a ubuntu iso file on ubuntu with chrome.. came back and it had opened the iso in winrar.exe that i had  installed via wine.
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> wonder how it did that. ;)
[22:00] <Lunitome> reisio: .-.
[22:01] <histo> badass: did you check man smb.conf ?
[22:01] <histo> badass: I see support in there for wildcards in several areas
[22:01] <badass> doesn't specify for include though
[22:02] <Lunitome> reisio: could you give me the code without those things, there are alot
[22:03] <zimbo> histo: yes it's cups - i can see the server running
[22:05] <Lunitome> Is reisio online?
[22:07] <Lunitome> Is reisio online? or afk?
[22:07] <Mark-Potter> Lunitome: Message them :)
[22:09] <MileyCyrus> Hi
[22:09] <Mark-Potter> Hello MileyCyrus
[22:10] <MileyCyrus> Why's that when you install a new kernel you have to reinstall nvidia drivers?
[22:10] <zimbo> MileyCyrus: if it's you i'm super horny and ready for that pussy (just don't tell my wife)
[22:10] <MileyCyrus> bad boy zimbo
[22:11] <zimbo> ;-)
[22:11] <Tex_Nick> !language | zimbo
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> MileyCyrus:  did you install the nvidia drivers via the .run drivers from the nvidia site?
[22:11] <MileyCyrus> yes, Dr_Willis
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> MileyCyrus:  thats why then.
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> if you used thepackage manager.. it would do it as needed
[22:12] <MileyCyrus> But, I mean, not installing a new kernel, but when Ubuntu does upgrading
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> only timne ieve ever seen it needed to be done is when the kernel version changes
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> each kernel version has to have somthing done via the .run drivers to compile them for that speciric kernel. DKMS handles it automatically if you used the repo drivers
[22:16] <Lunitome> will ubuntugnome work good on my 512 mb ram?
[22:16] <MileyCyrus> Aha. The .run drivers let you specify if you want to install DKMS modules
[22:16] <MileyCyrus> thank you Dr_Willis
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> Lunitome:  id stick to Lubuntu if you got that low of ram.
[22:16] <Lunitome> unity ubuntu worked but some slow and chrome crashed alot
[22:17] <Lunitome> Dr_Willis: k
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> track down more ram would be a HUGE boost to the system preformance.
[22:17] <Lunitome> Dr_Willis: i like gnome and unity better than lxde
[22:18] <Mark-Potter> !language | Mark-Potter
[22:18] <Mark-Potter> lol
[22:19] <chris5000> !language | chris5000
[22:19] <Mark-Potter> (In the future, please use a private message to investigate)
[22:19] <Mark-Potter> What does that mean please?
[22:19] <gars_33> can somebody help me I can't have access to undernet i can't connect to the server
[22:20] <malus> ciao
[22:20] <Lunitome> 77
[22:20] <malus> !list
[22:20] <Mark-Potter> gars_33: Is that another irc network
[22:20] <gars_33> yes mark-potter
[22:21] <Lunitome> like i would use normal ubuntu if chrome didnt crash on it
[22:21] <Lunitome> Dr_Willis: ^
[22:24] <Lunitome> Dr_Willis: so does chrome use the memory like unity does?
[22:24] <Lunitome> Dr_Willis: so does gnome use the memory like unity does?
[22:25] <OerHeks> Any browser needs memory to run, it should not conflict with unity.
[22:25] <Lunitome> gnome*
[22:25] <Lunitome> like would gnome be better on this comp than unity
[22:26] <OerHeks> unity runs on top of gnome3
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> Lunitome:  a browser will use more ram then your desktop i imagine. expecially with more then 1 tab and flash going
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> Lunitome:  if you want the 'lightest' desktop - run JUST a window manager. like jwm. but then you lose a lot of features you may want
[22:26] <OerHeks> Dr_Willis, see the chrome <> gnome
[22:27] <Lunitome> gnome***
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> i cant really tell if gnome is heavier or lighter then unity. I dont use low end systems any moar. ;) except for my raspberry pi
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> your browser will still use moar resources then your desktop form what ive seen
[22:28] <chris5000> Dr_Willis: what do you use your pi for?
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> chris5000:  znc server, Plex Media player, and XBMC box.
[22:28] <Lunitome> Dr_Willis: then is there a way to have search in the menu, use super key to open menu, panel on top? on lxde
[22:29] <Lunitome> Dr_Willis: like in windows 7 search
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> Lunitome:  never noticed.   you can alwyas use some other docks from the repos if lubuntu cant do it
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[22:33] <UndrWater> is there a way to grab the kernel from the running install CD?
[22:35] <jrib> UndrWater: why do you want to grab the kernel?  What did it ever do to ypou?
[22:36] <OerHeks> UndrWater, The running one is loaded from /boot/vmlinuz* AFAIK
[22:36] <sam_> ok I need to install nanny parental control and when i compile it ./configure gives this error No package 'pygtk-2.0' found. I download that package and its not working with my structure (using ubuntu 13.04) need help
[22:37] <jrib> sam_: the software is called "nanny"?
[22:37] <whiptail> lol
[22:37] <NedsFlam> Hey all. Is there any way to boot ubuntu without a monitor and retain graphical mode? I plan rmd into it.
[22:37] <sam_> Jrib_: yes its a parental control software
[22:37] <UndrWater> jrib: it booted with all hardware intact! :D
[22:37] <Ben64> NedsFlam: rmd?
[22:37] <jrib> !vnc | NedsFlam
[22:37] <jrib> !compile | sam_
[22:37] <NedsFlam> ben64: remote desktop
[22:37] <jrib> sam_: you need the right -dev package (see ubottu for more details)
[22:38] <Ben64> NedsFlam: then check what ubottu said to you
[22:38] <sam_> Jrib_: https://projects.gnome.org/nanny/
[22:39] <NedsFlam> jrib: does vnc allow remote desktop? rather than just ssh?
[22:39] <jrib> NedsFlam: that is what vnc is
[22:39] <NedsFlam> jrib: ah then I missread. Thanks I will continue reading
[22:40] <mizu_no_oto> Is there any way to get a Lexmark X7530 printer working?  We're trying to fix my girlfriend's grandmother's computer by putting ubuntu on it, but she's attached to her printer
[22:40] <NedsFlam> jrib: but my real issue is an error ubuntu throws when I try to boot it without an operating system
[22:40] <NedsFlam> jrib: I mean without a monitor
[22:41] <jrib> NedsFlam: what error?
[22:41] <NedsFlam> jrib: hold plz
[22:43] <sam_> Jrib_: I have this line of command and it doesn't work sam@sam:~/Desktop/nanny-2.29.4$ ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-init-scripts=debian bash: ./autogen.sh: No such file or directory
[22:43] <NedsFlam> jrib: I am unable to get the error at the moment as I am doing something else with the computer. I will return later with the error.
[22:43] <NedsFlam> thanks anyway
[22:44] <sam_> sam@sam:~/Desktop/nanny-2.29.4$ ./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --with-init-scripts=debian bash: ./autogen.sh: No such file or directory
[22:44] <sam_> how can i run that command?
[22:44] <mizu_no_oto> Or do I need to either buy her a new printer or get it booting into vista by default again?
[22:45] <geirha> sam_: ->  [If there isn't autogen.sh try ./configure instead]
[22:45] <jrib> sam_: I suggest you do not use /usr as your prefix
[22:45] <geirha> sam_: That's from nanny's README file
[22:45] <Tex_Nick> not a huge problem, however on 13.04 ... using a rathwer new logitech wireless mouse with new battery ... i have problems resizing windows ... it's kinda difficult to grab hold of a windows edges or corners ... not sure of mouse resolution ... anyone else have a similar problem ?
[22:46] <Tex_Nick> rather*
[22:46] <sam_> geirha_: its the readme file from the program so autogen should work
[22:46] <geirha> sam_: Depends on how you grabbed the sources
[22:47] <sam_> Jrib_: I don't know how to change my /usr part of command can you tell me the new command?
[22:48] <sam_> Jrib_: what are my options for prefix?
[22:48] <geirha> sam_: If you grabbed it via the version control system, you use autogen.sh, which creates a configure script that it runs. If you grabbed a tarball, it generally have a configure script already generated, so you run that instead
[22:50] <geirha> sam_: --prefix=/usr -> --prefix=/usr/local   Software you install outside the package manager should go in either /usr/local or /opt; to avoid interfering with the package manager
[22:50] <sam_> geirha_: I grabed a tarball . I ran configure file and it came up with this requirement missing (pygtk 2.4 - 2.4) the packages I found isn't compatible  with my ubuntu 13.04 structure
[22:52] <geirha> sam_: That probably means you have to install the package  python-gtk2-dev
[22:54] <geirha> as a rule of thumb, whenever the configure script says you're missing some lib foo, you need libfoo-dev. In this case it's a python module, so the package is named python-<libname>-dev
[22:55] <mizu_no_oto> So is there is there any way to get a Lexmark X7530 printer working?
[22:55] <galorin> I am having a minor problem with an old PCI  wireless adapter, working as of two days ago, blew up my power supply.  It's a Belkin F5D7000, which uses the b43 module.  Shows up in lspci, the modules are loaded under lsmod, but there's no sign of it in ifconfig or iwconfig.  What have I forgotten to do to get this old bird in the air again?
[22:55] <geirha> sam_: Looking at its homepage though, that software is three years old, and doesn't seem to be maintained anymore
[22:56] <LinuxGold> It's been said that if you play a windows CD backwards, you'll hear satanic chanting...worse still if you play it forwards, it installs windows.
[22:56] <nakedwater> heh
[22:56] <Mark-Potter> lol
[22:56]  * Mark-Potter would rather take horse manure
[22:57] <histo> galorin: firmware?
[22:57] <Mark-Potter> Press it into the shape of a disc and use that
[22:57] <Mark-Potter> !
[22:57] <histo> !bcm | galorin
[22:57] <sam_> geirha_: installing that gtk dev package its large package. so you say the software won't work on ubuntu 13.04?
[22:57] <sam_> geirha_: do you by any chance know any other parental control software for ubuntu?
[22:58] <geirha> sam_: It might work. I'm saying if it doesn't work, or you find a bug, it seems unlikely you'll get any help/fixes
[22:59] <sam_> geirha_: is there anyway to install all package requirement all at once automaticly. now its asking me for python-gtop
[22:59] <geirha> sam_: The lack of maintainers is probably why it was removed from the Ubuntu repositories in the first place
[23:00] <geirha> sam_: For debian package sources, yes. For arbitrary source code downloaded off the net, no.
[23:00] <OerHeks> timekpr, net nanny are discontinued, and http://dansguardian.org/ is also dying, try opendns ?
[23:03] <LinuxGold> http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5071/momh.png
[23:04] <galorin> histo | Woo! thanks, now I wonder why I had to do that when it was working before I had to swap out a power supply and motherboard.
[23:05] <galorin> Oh well, it's working now
[23:05] <MKCoin> what exactly does indicator-application-service do in 12.04? Mine seems to be leaking a bit, I want to restart it but don't want to be forced to restart.
[23:06] <sam_> geirha_: To use the parental control, please start up the daemon       how  an i start up the daemon? is that a bug??
[23:07] <dr_willis> sudo service servicename  start                is one way sam_
[23:08] <sam_> command not found :|
[23:08] <dr_willis> what command...
[23:08] <dr_willis> what command are you using exactly
[23:09] <sam_> my command was sudo nanny start
[23:09] <dr_willis> that was not the example i gave
[23:09] <dr_willis> sudo service SERVICENAMEFORYOURSERVICE  start
[23:09] <sam_> well I though i should replace service name with my program name
[23:10] <dr_willis> sudo service sshd start   (for example)
[23:10] <dr_willis> and tab completion can work for the service name
[23:10] <dr_willis> !info nanny
[23:10] <dr_willis> !find nanny
[23:11] <OerHeks> it is discontinued after 12.10, dr_willis
[23:11] <dr_willis> never hear of a 'nanny service'
[23:12] <geirha> sam_: Source code generally does not include init script, so you'll likely have to write one (or an upstart config file) yourself
[23:12] <sam_> well is there any parental  control software for linux?
[23:13] <dr_willis> sam_:  did you search the package manager package listing?
[23:13] <dr_willis> I do belive OpenDNS also has such a service at the dns level
[23:13] <dr_willis> and ive definatly seen firefox extensions for  parental controls
[23:14] <dr_willis> ive also seen my 4 yr old grandson get around such things rather quickly... the little rascal..
[23:14] <sam_> didn't find one in package manager . open dns wont' be enough for me I need to control surfing time on my computer
[23:14] <OerHeks> normally you enter net nanny through System > Administration > Parental Control.
[23:15] <OerHeks> Not sure how this behaviour is in 13.04
[23:15] <dr_willis> best parental control ive seen.. Place the PC right in the middle of the liveing room where everyone can see whata anyone else is doing. ;)
[23:15] <sam_> nanny won't work they don't upgrade that software for 13.04 going to uninstall it
[23:16] <sam_> haha lol yeah thats a good solution but not on laptop.
[23:16] <OerHeks> timekpr is dead also
[23:16] <Mark-Potter> yup
[23:24] <dr_willis> glad i dont have to worry about such things with the kids. (got none) :)   i just have to keep the android phone locked down so the grandkid dosent buy  stuff.
[23:25] <MKCoin> what exactly does indicator-application-service do in 12.04? Mine seems to be leaking CPU a bit, I want to restart it but don't want to be forced to restart.
[23:26] <dr_willis> leaking cpu? You mean leaking ram?
[23:26] <dr_willis> memory leaks ;)
[23:27] <MKCoin> no, I mean using a lot of CPU for no reason. It ... appears to have been caused by my CPU monitor, ironically.
[23:27] <MKCoin> yup, that was it, heh.
[23:27]  * Tex_Nick would consider sending his 2 grandkids to dr_willis ... my PC maintenance would much simpler then ;-)
[23:28] <dr_willis> got them all on tablets these days.  :)  no more fighting with windows..
[23:29] <dr_willis> wife is also basically using her android tablet 90% of the time.. she rarely even touches her laptop
[23:32] <dr_willis> now for a support question..  the   /  key  (and as far as i can tell ONLY the / key) seems to be acting up on my ubuntu box.  seems i have  hit it 3 times to get 2 slashss.   like in   http:// whatever.. im constantly getting  http:/whatever
[23:33] <dr_willis> if i  hit the key 3 times however. i seem to get like 5 slashes..
[23:33] <dr_willis> that sound like some sort of software issue or a very weird hardware issue?  not tried a differnt keyboard yet. ;)
[23:37] <smaudet> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS I'm trying to troubleshoot some startup issues, they aren't major it seems but it is stopping rpcbind from working perhaps? Anyways initctl is being executed in the following manner: 'exec initctl emit --no-wait start-rpcbind ON_BOOT=y', where are these 'event's stored, and any idea what might be going wrong?
[23:37] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : i use3d to do hardware design & development ... modern day keyboards incorporate something called "debounce circuitry" that prevents that at the hardware level (the key switch contacts)
[23:38] <caradactyl> when trying to run virtualbox in ubuntu server i get the error: Failed to open the X11 display.. anyone have any idea whats going on here? i'm very new to this
[23:38] <smaudet> Tex_Nick, dr_willis: have done similar things myself, I can attest this is the case with keyboards (with controllers in them at least)
[23:38] <smaudet> Tex_Nick: what was the question?
[23:39] <Tex_Nick> smaudet: dr_willis is having a KB problem ... scroll up
[23:41] <smaudet> That is a very interesting problem: dr_willis, obvious question does it occur in all programs? E.g. if you opened up a virtual terminal and typed '///' what do you get?
[23:43] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : back inthe days of the "radio shack TRS-80" computer ... they neglected to provide KB debounce ... and the result was as you describe ... their only solution was to provide for a software patch/kludge ... whichintroduced a software delay for the KB input ... not used today ... sounds like a bad KB circuit
[23:43] <smaudet> Tex_Nick: agreed - different keyboard/different programs
[23:44] <smaudet> The other thing I could think of would be some weird equivalent of StickyKeys
[23:45] <Semper> Anyone an expert on filesystem permissions?
[23:46] <johnjohn101> i'm advanced
[23:46] <Semper> Do folder or file permissions take precedence?
[23:46] <smaudet> Semper: file
[23:46] <smaudet> Semper: folders are files with files in them
[23:46] <Tex_Nick> smaudet: ahhh might software like that might also be something to consider ... also an intermittently stuck key ???
[23:46] <Semper> If I have a folder chmodded to 700, and the files within it at 644 will everyone be able to access it?
[23:46] <smaudet> Tex_Nick: definitely
[23:47] <Semper> It being the files within the folder.
[23:47] <smaudet> Semper: only root can
[23:47] <Semper> Thought so, weird though.
[23:47] <smaudet> Semper: that is only root can read the directory to obtain a listing
[23:47] <Semper> I tried opening with the full path on non root and it cannot do it
[23:47] <smaudet> Semper: you could always try touching the files inside explicitly, but I dont'think that'd work
[23:49] <smaudet> Semper: not really, folder permissions provide access permissions to things inside them, but the file access is still 'first' since if you can read a directory, then you can do whatever you need to on files with write access in that directory
[23:49] <smaudet> Semper: as I said, folders are files with files inside them (although I'm not a kernel dev so don't quote me on that)
[23:49] <lgc> Hi. This is probably an old topic, but I just found out that my touchpad isn't working, either in Ubuntu or in Windows. I noticed that after a live boot. What gives?
[23:49] <Semper> Kind of a mind screw, mysqldump is dumping the databases is 644
[23:50] <Semper> I don't want everyone with access to it.
[23:50] <Semper> parent folder is 700
[23:50] <Anonynimity> oatmeal on drugs: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
[23:50] <smaudet> Semper: then mysqldump is probbaly running as root, or its users is in the root user group
[23:50] <johnjohn101> Semper, i just did this same thing on my system. i can't access my 644 file in my 700 folder owner by root.root
[23:50] <smaudet> its user*
[23:51] <Semper> john_john, I have the folder set as admin:admin
[23:51] <Semper> admin is a non root account
[23:51] <Semper> I need the admin account for ssh to perform backups
[23:51] <johnjohn101> Semper, so admin user and admin group   so only those users have access to the directory
[23:51] <Semper> I thought so.
[23:52] <Semper> Total pita
[23:52] <johnjohn101> if you make a user part of the admin group, then they have access to the directory
[23:52] <Semper> yeah
[23:52] <Semper> that much is ok.
[23:52] <Semper> admin group only has admin for that reason
[23:53] <Semper> though wouldnt they only have access in the admin group if I made it 740 and above
[23:53] <johnjohn101> Semper, that is correct. thanks for that
[23:54] <Semper> Such a strange situation
[23:54] <Semper> to avoid a password showing in ps
[23:54] <johnjohn101> Semper, let me check my directory permissions
[23:54] <Semper> i need a config file
[23:54] <Semper> with the config file it needs to be root only
[23:54] <Semper> so only root can do the dumps
[23:54] <smaudet> Semper: yes, 740 would be correct for admin access
[23:54] <smaudet> RWXRWXRWX, UGA
[23:54] <Semper> it dumps it for another user to access since you cannot SSH as root
[23:55] <smaudet> 7 7 7, 111 111 111
[23:55] <smaudet> easy if you know binary
[23:55] <Semper> while preventing access for all
[23:55] <johnjohn101> Semper, you can give user read access to the directory
[23:55] <smaudet> Actually OGA, not UGA
[23:55] <Semper> Well, I only need the admin account with access to them.
[23:55] <smaudet> And then there's a sticky bit and a directory bit which I never remember what they do /end waffle
[23:55] <johnjohn101> chmod +g
[23:56] <Semper> So I needed to check folder @ 700 admin:admin prevents all but root and admin access to the folder and files beneath
[23:56] <CADRE> Hey everyone. Hate to add to the confusion chorus, but I just got Ubuntu installed and now TrueCrypt is giving me installation hell. I've extracted this single file, and now it only wants to run in text editor, which it crashes. What's the deal?
[23:56] <Semper> CADRE, isn't it provided as a deb somewhere?
[23:56] <smaudet> CADRE: hold your horses: what's wrong with just an Ubuntu install? Where are you installing TC?
[23:57] <smaudet> CADRE: if you downloaded a .deb file, you'll want to run that i.e. 'sudo dpkg -i truecrypt.deb'
[23:57] <smaudet> You should just be able to double click it but it sounds like your defaults are messed up
[23:57] <smaudet> If you 'extracted' it anyways
[23:57] <Semper> Which desktop environment are you in CADRE ?
[23:58] <CADRE> Well I downloaded TrueCrypt, off their site, the standard 64-bit one. Extracted, and now I have truecrypt-7.1a-setup-x64
[23:58] <smaudet> CADRE: ah, look for a .bin file, run that
[23:58] <Semper> well, you just need to run it to install via terminal
[23:58] <CADRE> Extracted to home, that is. As for the distro itself, uname-a says Ubuntu 3.8.0
[23:58] <smaudet> CADRE: i need to install TC myself actually, I'll see what it is in a sec
[23:58] <CADRE> But yes I figured Terminal had something to do with it, but I'm not clear on the commands, a lot of the online stuff gave me commands for various other distros
[23:58] <Semper> smaudet, last time I installed, you extracted it and ran an install script via terminal
[23:59] <Semper> CADRE you should have an install.sh or similar
[23:59] <Semper> sudo run that and it should install I think
[23:59] <smaudet> CADRE: right, well other distros may have it pre-packaged
[23:59] <Semper> if you are in the same directory you need to use
[23:59] <smaudet> Semper: bad idea to do that
[23:59] <Semper> ./install.sh
[23:59] <smaudet> unless it asks for it
[23:59] <smaudet> I'd only sudo install .debs personally
[23:59] <Semper> well I remember that it should
[23:59] <johnjohn101> Semper http://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-file-and-directory-permissions/
[23:59] <Semper> if it doesnt need it don't sudo