[00:04] <iUnify> OvenWerks1:  No luck with those suggestions, encrypting home, not installing updates, etc.... still no video w my Radeon hybrid graphics card.  Monitor is on and off after successful install still.... ah, man... I don't know what to do
[00:23] <iUnify> anyone?
[00:42] <holstein> iUnify: force vesa
[00:42] <holstein> !nomodeset
[00:43] <holstein> iUnify: do you get to a desktop from the live CD?
[00:49] <iUnify> hey i have tried
[00:49] <iUnify> yes
[00:50] <holstein> iUnify: how do you get to the desktop from the live CD?
[00:50] <iUnify> i get the desktop.  no clue but its perfect o usb
[00:50] <holstein> iUnify: live, you mean.. a USB wont fix the issue, nor create it
[00:51] <iUnify> i just mean i download the file and put it on a usb and install.  it works off usb - says it installs but wont work.
[00:51] <iUnify> In the past it did on 2 occasions - which i did nothing differently, but that was a bit ago.
[00:52] <iUnify> I thought it was due to my hybrid graphics card, radeon
[00:52] <iUnify> Ideally I wouild like studio and ubuntu 13
[00:53] <holstein> iUnify: its *definitely* due to youre grahpics hardware
[00:53] <holstein> iUnify: you would like to use ubuntu 13.04
[00:53] <holstein> iUnify: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu
[00:53] <holstein> iUnify: what do you mean by "in the past, it did on 2 occasions"
[00:53] <iUnify> Yes, but allll those apps for recording audio.
[00:53] <holstein> what did what
[00:54] <holstein> iUnify: the apps are *all* all in the default ubuntu repositories
[00:54] <iUnify> Its not easy keeping track in ubuntu.  Using both would b ideal.
[00:54] <holstein> the apps are all in most major distro's repositories
[00:54] <holstein> iUnify: you will not be using both.. the are the *same*
[00:54] <holstein> you can dual boot them if you like.. but they are the same
[00:55] <iUnify> The way they are organized in studio, i love that.  the way ubuntu is otherwise i love.
[00:55] <holstein> iUnify: you can elaborate as to what you are having trouble "keeping track" of
[00:55] <holstein> iUnify: organized in the menu?
[00:55] <iUnify> Yes.  BUT, it really doesnt matter until i can get either / or working for me.
[00:56] <holstein> iUnify: regardless, im just stating facts.. what do you mean by "in the past it did on 2 occasions".. what did what?
[00:56] <iUnify> I could just use ubuntu
[00:56] <holstein> iUnify: im just stating, you dont need to troubleshoot both
[00:56] <holstein> they are the same
[00:56] <holstein> the same hardware support.. same access to the same kernels.. packages.. firmware
[00:56] <iUnify> ok so in the past ubuntu installed successfully without video issues
[00:57] <holstein> iUnify: unless it was version 13.04 (assuming that is what you are talking about) its irrelavant
[00:57] <iUnify> but the only one that ever ever worked was ubuntu `1.04.1
[00:57] <iUnify> *12.04.2
[00:57] <holstein> iUnify: you are (from what i read) assuming that this is somehow relating to ubuntu vs ubuntustudio.. but, its actually ubuntu 12.04 vs ubuntu 13.04
[00:57] <holstein> iUnify: what would i do? if ubuntu 12.04 works, out of the box, on your hardware, consider using it
[00:58] <holstein> we have an ubuntustudio 12.o4 version
[00:58] <holstein> !ati
[00:58] <iUnify> No,.... sorry. Let me be more cleR
[00:58] <holstein> ^^ that is what i refer to to get drivers working for proprietary devices like that
[00:58] <iUnify> THIS KEYBOARD I HORRIBLW sorry
[00:59] <iUnify> Nothing works right now.  Period.  No ubuntu of any sort.
[00:59] <holstein> right.. no 13.04
[00:59] <holstein> and they wont.. since they are *all* the same
[00:59] <holstein> its not like, you will find a version of ubuntu that will support your hardware better.. that is my point
[00:59] <iUnify> In the past Ubuntu 12.04.2 worked  2 times but amidst a million video issues - same one.
[00:59] <holstein> sure
[00:59] <holstein> what would i do? vesa
[01:00] <iUnify> What is vesa?
[01:01] <holstein> sometimes, (like when i had the *same* issue on different hardware in 12.04) i used vesa driver
[01:01] <holstein> !vesa
[01:02] <iUnify> ok BUT how do i effect this change when i cant get into see the screen to do it - changes are to the usb oinly
[01:03] <holstein> what do i do? i use a knoppix live CD.. i get to a desktop, i configure.. i grab the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and customize it with the vesa driver
[01:03] <holstein> iUnify: i do not understand what you mean by "in usb only"
[01:03] <iUnify> ok
[01:03] <holstein> iUnify: are you installing to usb? are you talkinb about on a live CD?
[01:03] <iUnify> I have installed studio right now.
[01:04] <iUnify> But when I boot the screen just turns on and off. ... but I know the OS installed successfully.
[01:04] <holstein> !text
[01:04] <holstein> !tty
[01:04] <iUnify> How do I enter these commands under these circumstances?
[01:04] <holstein> iUnify: there is a recovery kernel mode
[01:04] <holstein> ^^ those are 3 potential ways to do as i said
[01:05] <holstein> also, you can put the xorg.conf in place using a live CD
[01:05] <iUnify> ok.... i have this laptop
[01:05] <holstein> the same knoppix live CD
[01:05] <iUnify> its my friends
[01:05] <iUnify> and mine
[01:05] <holstein> iUnify: ownership will not influence performance
[01:05] <iUnify> with ubuntu, can u walk me through right quick man?  Ive been at the forever and if i know what i am doing once i can rinse and repeat.
[01:05] <holstein> iUnify: this is *exactly* what i do
[01:05] <iUnify> ok
[01:05] <holstein> load the knoppix live CD
[01:06] <holstein> configure desktop
[01:06] <holstein> copy xorg.conf
[01:06] <holstein> replace the driver portion with vesa
[01:06] <holstein> then, i *know* that that configuration will work
[01:06] <holstein> otherwise, you can try..
[01:07] <iUnify> what is knopix/
[01:08] <holstein> iUnify: if you dont know what knoppix is, or want to download another live CD.. you can wait for me to paste the next link im getting for you
[01:08] <iUnify> ok i truly appreciate your help i hope i understand to get it orking
[01:08] <holstein> also, be sure you let amd know that you are having issues using thier product in the OS you are choosing to use
[01:09] <iUnify> ok
[01:10] <holstein> iUnify: you can try something this simple and see
[01:10] <holstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6068643/
[01:10] <inahd> hey guys, i just installed amsynth on ubuntustudio... when i used it on AVlinux there were crazy banks available, i wonder how i can find them again?
[01:10] <holstein> add that to a file named /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:10] <holstein> inahd: load up the avlinux live CD and make note of "those crazy banks"
[01:11] <holstein> inahd: ask in #opensourcemusicians
[01:11] <holstein> inahd: elaborate here, and maybe a volunteer can help
[01:11] <inahd> cool
[01:11] <iUnify> holstein: ok, i am a beginner here ... to some degree.... step 1, run tht command?  step 2, how do I find that file? in studio?
[01:11] <inahd> maybe  can copy them from wherever they are in avlinux
[01:11] <holstein> iUnify: i gave no commands
[01:11] <iUnify> in the paste ubuntu
[01:11] <holstein> iUnify: you make that file..
[01:12] <holstein> iUnify: that will be the text of the file.. that is a simple xorg.conf.. it may not work
[01:12] <iUnify> that is all ovr my head
[01:12] <holstein> iUnify: sure
[01:12] <holstein> iUnify: but, if you want to use hardware in linux that is not supported by the vendor, you need to support it on your own
[01:12] <holstein> iUnify: it is not a waste of time or resources to make a knoppix live CD..
[01:13] <holstein> iUnify: or, puppy linux
[01:13] <holstein> puppy lets you choose vesa at boot.. then, you can navigate to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and force vesa
[01:13] <holstein> iUnify: you said, you tried nomodeset?
[01:14] <iUnify> No, I got you, I agree.. .I'm just lost here is all, man.  I need a bit of step by step slower explaination as i am unable to get it tis way.  like.  first... do this .. .specifically.  i feel like an ass, dont wanna be a PITA - just really wanna get thisthing working.   Yes nomodeset did not work
[01:15] <holstein> iUnify: you can also refer to the link i gave, and see about installing a proprietary driver from the recovery kernel
[01:15] <holstein> !ati
[01:16] <holstein> iUnify: you can try identifying what hardware you have from that prompt at least, and searching for it
[01:16] <iUnify> done it
[01:16] <iUnify> Radeon driver 6600 m series i believe
[01:16] <iUnify> hybrid graphcs
[01:16] <holstein> iUnify: you cant "believe".. you just need to find out for certain
[01:17] <iUnify> found the hybrid and raden askubuntu links..  ive been doing this for months.  online researching asking people on forums
[01:17] <iUnify> yes true
[01:17] <holstein> iUnify: is it?
[01:17] <iUnify> one sec here
[01:17] <holstein> iUnify: are you in the recovery kernel?
[01:17] <holstein> did you install a proprietary driver?
[01:17] <iUnify> no i am on live usb
[01:17] <iUnify> ive done nothing
[01:17] <holstein> iUnify: try the recovery kernel, and installing the driver
[01:17] <iUnify> at the moment
[01:18] <holstein> if you have "broken" anything with other guides, you might want to fresh install and do that
[01:18] <iUnify> ok i have freah install
[01:18] <iUnify> how to get recovery kernal?
[01:19] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode iUnify
[01:20] <iUnify> i can not get to that screeen
[01:20] <holstein> iUnify: elaboarate please
[01:20] <iUnify> the screen turns on and off right after boot
[01:20] <holstein> iUnify: if you cant, then you cant.. then, we cant help
[01:20] <holstein> if you elaborate as to what *exactly* is going on.. then we can help
[01:20] <iUnify> Well, I can hit Shift F2
[01:21] <holstein> iUnify: do you see grub?
[01:21] <iUnify> And I go to GNU GRUB
[01:21] <holstein> iUnify: what would i do? install 12.04.. and install the ati driver
[01:21] <holstein> iUnify: the recovery kernel is in that grub list
[01:21] <holstein> boot the machine and tap shift
[01:21] <iUnify> C for command line
[01:21] <iUnify> ok
[01:22] <iUnify> same screen ok
[01:22] <iUnify> try ubuntu
[01:22] <iUnify> install ubuntu, oem install, check for defects
[01:22] <holstein> iUnify: please remove *all* usb sticks and cd's
[01:22] <holstein> iUnify: that is the live CD booting, friend
[01:23] <holstein> iUnify: you will remove those, then,
[01:23] <holstein> Wait until the BIOS has finished loading, or has almost finished. (During this time you will probably see a logo of your computer manufacturer.)
[01:23] <holstein> Quickly press and hold the Shift key, which will bring up the GNU GRUB menu. (If you see the Ubuntu logo, you've missed the point where you can enter the GRUB menu.)
[01:23] <iUnify> enter to boot os, e to edit commNDS BEFORE booting and c for command line
[01:23] <holstein> iUnify: please remove the USB or cd for the live environment
[01:23] <iUnify> OK, got you, sorry man, I forgot about th USB.... this is what I mean, a bit slow with it yet.... thank you so much.  doing so now.
[01:24] <iUnify> ok no go
[01:24] <holstein> you need to identify what is doing what, and why
[01:24] <iUnify> acreen is on and off
[01:24] <holstein> stop saying "cant" and "wont".. and just read and make it happen
[01:24] <iUnify> before the menu comes up
[01:24] <holstein> iUnify: reboot and hold shift
[01:24] <iUnify> same with pressing F4 for recovery
[01:24] <holstein> iUnify: f4 is your system
[01:25] <holstein> iUnify: has *nothing* to do with ubuntu
[01:25] <iUnify> I shall again but i just did th shift one as well.
[01:25] <holstein> f4 will be the recovery for the machine
[01:25] <holstein> iUnify: you may not have installed ubuntu properly
[01:26] <holstein> iUnify: this is what i would do... download http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/12.04.3/release/ubuntustudio-12.04.3-dvd-i386.iso
[01:26] <iUnify> i cN TRY again but i have done it 500 times
[01:26] <holstein> from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/12.04.3/release/
[01:26] <holstein> iUnify: sure.. and im saying, you might not have ubuntu installed properly
[01:26] <iUnify> okay, i would like 13, should i not just do that?
[01:26] <holstein> so, you will do this *one* time
[01:26] <holstein> install 12.04
[01:26] <iUnify> ok
[01:26] <holstein> try it live, and install it from the live desktop
[01:26] <holstein> !ati
[01:27] <holstein> ^^ them, you refer to that for installing a proprietary driver for your card
[01:27] <holstein> you come here if you have any questions
[01:27] <iUnify> one quick one to start, why 12 and not 13?
[01:28] <iUnify> Curiosity as I'd have liked the newest version.
[01:28] <holstein> iUnify: 12.04 and not 13.04
[01:28] <holstein> iUnify: the ".04" is *quite* important.. there is no "12" or "13"
[01:28] <holstein> iUnify: 12.04 is what i suggested
[01:29] <iUnify> Yes, why 12.04 rathr than 12.10 or 13.04?
[01:29] <holstein> iUnify: use 13.04 if you want.. and another volunteer can assist you.. you can try #ubuntu
[01:30] <holstein> why did i suggest 12.04? because i think you have a better chance of getting it to work, assuming the information you have given me is correct
[01:30] <iUnify> No, no, curious though, why would you suggest that rather than 13.04?  I'm following your advice to the best of my ability and as I've said I am sincrely grateful for it- been going mad - just curious is all.
[01:30] <iUnify> So I know what I'm doing, you know... Its helpful to understand why.
[01:31] <iUnify> awesome
[01:31] <iUnify> thanks so much, i will be back with an updat, you can be SURE of that!  :)
[01:31] <holstein> iUnify: good luck
[01:32] <iUnify> Oh I use 64bit
[01:32] <iUnify> Is that the correct link then?
[01:32] <iUnify> and thanks
[01:32] <holstein> thats why i gave th other link
[01:33] <iUnify> ah ok, idnt realize that.  thanka
[01:33] <holstein> iUnify: how much ram do you have?
[01:33] <iUnify> 8gigs
[01:34] <iUnify> also i will just be able to update to 13.04 if this works, corrct?
[01:34] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/12.04.3/release/ubuntustudio-12.04.3-dvd-amd64.iso
[01:43] <SonikkuAmerica> iUnify: You'll have to go through 12.10 first
[01:43] <iUnify> yeh i have an hour on this donlod
[01:46] <iUnify> holstein: i have reviewed your notes and one thing is confusing me, sorry... i just dont get how to use the guide to you have given for the drivers to enter commands when i can not
[01:46] <iUnify> get to the command line after an install....
[01:48] <holstein> iUnify: we will address proper installation if necessary
[01:48] <holstein> iUnify: you will install 12.04.. you will get to the command line, you will install said driver
[01:49] <holstein> iUnify: dont spend hours at this.. if you dont make headway with this *entire* process in 40 minutes, stop
[01:49] <iUnify> i got ya, but i cant reach command line, after each boot the computer screen turns on and off... this is boots of multiple installations of multiple usbs created multiple oCCaionns  so i know that i cant rech commaND LINE
[01:50] <iUnify> It ill take an hour to just download the file.
[01:50] <iUnify> an hour more
[02:08] <holstein> iUnify: you must stop saying "cant".. and just figure out how
[03:10] <iUnify> holstein: So I have managed only getting Ubuntu 12,04.2 on my comp.  updating now.  Is there a way to have something compairable to the way the information is organized in the menu in Studio for audio production?  Can I record and use the tools via USB without issue?  How large would it have to be then?  Also I want to say thank you for your help, unbelievably apprecitive!  :D
[03:12] <iUnify> holstein: for example, icons to click in a folder as opposed to the clickble links in the studio menu, which i realize i likely can not also have.
[03:15] <iUnify_> holstein: So I have managed only getting Ubuntu 12,04.2 on my comp.  updating now.  Is there a way to have something compairable to the way the information is organized in the menu in Studio for audio production?  Can I record and use the tools via USB without issue?  How large would it have to be then?  Also I want to say thank you for your help, unbelievably apprecitive!  :D  for example, icons to click in a folder as opposed 
[03:23] <holstein> iUnify_: keep in mind this
[03:23] <holstein> all of these projects are open, and nothing is hiding from you, so, in theory, basically anything is possible
[03:24] <holstein> iUnify_: im not sure what you are asking for.. if you can take a screenshot, or show an image
[03:24] <holstein> !info kupfer
[03:24] <holstein> ^^ i use that, its like synapse or gnome-do, so i have little information about or interest in menus
[03:36] <iUnify_> holstein: Thanks man, after all the updates I will be checking into that.  Now, last thing... what is it that I need for terminal entries to get all the studio apps in ubuntu?  Sadly i was told this once before but lost the information.
[03:38] <holstein> iUnify_: you installed ubuntustudio
[03:38] <holstein> iUnify_: you have them
[03:38] <iUnify_> i installed ubuntu not studio
[03:39] <iUnify_> studio did not install
[03:39] <holstein> iUnify_: i linked you ubuntustudio
[03:39] <holstein> iUnify_: ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu
[03:39] <iUnify_> i explained above.
[03:39] <holstein> iUnify_: ubuntu requires 3d
[03:39] <holstein> iUnify_: you can just install what you like
[03:39] <holstein> iUnify_: sudo apt-get install audacity for example
[03:40] <holstein> dont bother with the meta packages
[03:40] <iUnify_> yes, there  are man y many programs all of which are not in update ctr
[03:40] <holstein> iUnify_: software center?
[03:40] <holstein> iUnify_: the software center has access to the same repos..
[03:40] <iUnify_> yes
[03:40] <iUnify_> idk
[03:41] <holstein> iUnify_: i do know
[03:41] <holstein> iUnify_: what do you want to know?
[03:41] <iUnify_> In studio
[03:41] <holstein> iUnify_: you are not in studio
[03:41] <iUnify_> There is an audio production folder
[03:41] <holstein> iUnify_: you are in ubuntu
[03:41] <holstein> iUnify_: you do not need a "production folder"
[03:41] <iUnify_> I would like to know how to have all of that.
[03:42] <holstein> iUnify_: if you literally only want to use audacitcy, just install that
[03:42] <holstein> iUnify_: you dont need all of that
[03:42] <holstein> iUnify_: just install what you need
[03:42] <iUnify_> i use all of the audio production tools
[03:42] <holstein> iUnify_: then, install them
[03:42] <iUnify_> ok thaNKSA
[03:42] <iUnify_> *THANKS
[03:42] <holstein> iUnify_: you can open the package manager of your choice and search "ubunustudio"
[03:42] <iUnify_> Damn sorry about caps
[03:42] <holstein> if the software center is not working for you, install synaptic
[03:43] <holstein> apt-cache search ubuntustudio
[03:43] <iUnify_> that waa it
[03:44] <holstein> that will list them
[03:44] <iUnify_> perfect ubuntustudio this an that ok thanks.
[03:44] <iUnify_> very much
[03:44] <holstein> iUnify_: you do not need most of the meta-packages
[03:44] <holstein> iUnify_: i say that, becuase you can really cause issues by installing things you dont need
[03:44] <holstein> iUnify_: do you use JACK?
[03:44] <iUnify_> sometimes
[03:45] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446506
[03:45] <holstein> there is no linux-rt package anymore
[03:46] <holstein> i would run "apt-cache search ubuntustudio" and install what i need.. actually, i would just install what i need. JACK, ardour, whatever plugins.. etc
[04:02] <iUnify_> hello if i want to dual boot 2 ubuntu distros how do i install the 2nd  differently than the first?
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> iUnify_, Differently, what's are your concerns?
[04:19] <iUnify_> Wilee-nilee: just got ubuntu working and dont want to mess it up when installing studio.  wanna be sure of how the install will vary as its the 2nd OS not 1st ans wont be usin ntire parttion.
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> iUnify_, You want to add it to ubuntu, a or make another partition and new install?
[04:20] <iUnify_> new partition and install
[04:20] <iUnify_> 1tb drive
[04:21] <iUnify_> unsure when/where/how to partion it best and also unsure of how much to allot each oS.... UBUNTU will be for downloading/intrnet and everything else low end use and studio obviously for studio purposes.
[04:21] <iUnify_> 500 500 maybe
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> iUnify_, Not a problem, it wont effect the ubuntu install, your only limit is the number of primary partions you can have 4 on a standard drive, or 3 primaries and a extended for logical partitions.
[04:22] <iUnify_> ok i only need 2 so that is good
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> iUnify_, Do you have a swap tight now?
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> right*
[04:23] <iUnify_> swap?
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> iUnify_, Run sudo fdsik -l and pastebin the info.
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> sudo fdisk -l  actually
[04:23] <iUnify_>  icouldnt get my video working EVER and finally ubuntu installed, 12 though so now i am upgrading to 13.
[04:24] <iUnify_> in the process of .04 to .10
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> iUnify_, This command will tell us exactly what is on the HD now.
[04:25] <iUnify_> i should i not wait until everything upgrades?   ive had so many issues in the past
[04:25] <iUnify_> it is rather tempermental
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> iUnify_, Yeah wait, but I was surised you don't know what a swap is, is all.
[04:25] <iUnify_> ah, newbie moatly
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> !swap | iUnify_
[04:26] <iUnify_> i appreciate the help man
[04:26] <iUnify_> thx
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> no prob, we are all learning
[05:07] <iUnify_> So... I tried installing studio with xforcevesa -- acpi=and it began to load correctly but than i got kernel panic - not syncing
[05:07] <iUnify_> fatal exception in intrrupt
[05:08] <iUnify_> drum_kms_helper: panic occured, switching back to text console
[05:08] <iUnify_> FREEZE
[05:13] <iUnify_> cant even turn my computer off
[10:14] <main> hallo
[10:14] <main> i need help bypassing a password on a laptop my friend has given me
[10:17] <cfhowlett> !password|main,
[17:43] <diana_> hilfe?
[17:43] <diana_> ich suche ein "APACHE" server. so was wie xampp
[18:39] <MaynardWaters> so im trying to configure my samba to give uploaded files from windows machines permission and ownership by my default user
[18:39] <MaynardWaters> under the section for my share I have "guest account = administrator
[18:40] <MaynardWaters> administrator is my default user
[18:40] <MaynardWaters> but when files are uploaded they still are given to nobody
[18:40] <MaynardWaters> and no group
[18:58] <OvenWerks> MaynardWaters: I don't know... I would think a forum for ubuntu-server might have more answers though
[19:01] <OvenWerks> Even #ubuntu should find more answers.
[19:54] <iUnify> Guys I have exhausted every avenue and I cant resolve my issue.  I have spoken with many people here and in forums and whatnot.  I don't know what to do here... I can't get my video working after an install but it wrks off USB and it even installs and the video works on rare occasion.  Last night it messed up on the 12.10 upgrade but i've had 13.04 - it is completly inconsistent.
[19:54] <iUnify> I have been at this for months and now I have to return this second laptop to my frined... i'm basically screwed and I just need an OS running on my laptop at this point.
[19:55] <iUnify> This entire process has essentially driven me mad.
[19:56] <iUnify> Much is over my head and nothing seems to work.  If ANYONE can get me opperational I would freaking worship you.
[20:00] <HisaoNakai> iUnify: Eh?
[20:00] <HisaoNakai> Video not working? O_o
[20:01] <HisaoNakai> iUnify: Did you try asking #ubuntu ?
[20:01] <iUnify> yes
[20:01] <iUnify> I have done this for dmn near 6 months man
[20:02] <iUnify> its stupid at this point.  EVERY day.
[20:02] <iUnify> I get it working randomly nd it crashes
[20:02] <HisaoNakai> Extra-freaking-ordinary.
[20:02] <iUnify> Video issues... its a freaking mess.
[20:02] <iUnify> Go figure, my luck.
[20:02] <HisaoNakai> iUnify: What hardware is this?
[20:03] <iUnify> Samaung 700Z5A laptop
[20:04] <HisaoNakai> I mean cpu and gpu o_o
[20:04] <iUnify> Why everything works off USB perfectly is beyond me.  aspci=off froze my whole pc so i couldnt even shut it, nomodeset chnges resolution to 1024x768 and nothing makes video work after boot... though RANDOMLY it just DOES, depending on install.
[20:05] <iUnify> Radeon 6600M Series Hybrid Graphics Card
[20:05] <HisaoNakai> Hm...
[20:06] <HisaoNakai> And you absolutely need to use ubuntustudio? Try another distro, avlinux, maybe?
[20:09] <Fyodorovna> iUnify, I see general problems with using the hybrid graphics, in that there seems to be no support getting it to work fully, the manufactures are to blame  really
[20:09] <iUnify> hmm
[20:10] <iUnify> Ubuntu N  Studio is what I wanted
[20:10] <iUnify> audio recording is my thing
[20:10] <HisaoNakai> iUnify: Yeah, and that's what I use, but just throwing things out there.
[20:42] <holstein> iUnify: if you can install ubuntu, install it twice, then convert one to ubuntu
[20:42] <holstein> or, just install the ubuntu packages and dont dual boot
[20:43] <iUnify> holstein:  last night i fot 12.04.2 on
[20:43] <iUnify> it upgrded to 12.04.3
[20:43] <holstein> iUnify: that is the most recent version
[20:43] <holstein> iUnify: that is just 12.04, upgraded to the recent version
[20:43] <iUnify> but the video did its thing after a successful upgrde to 12.10 and now i cant get 12.04.2 back on again anyway
[20:44] <holstein> iUnify: cant?
[20:44] <iUnify> this is how its been since day 1.
[20:44] <holstein> iUnify: you install the *exact* same way, and dont uprade to 12.04
[20:44] <iUnify> Yes, it will not successfully instal again.
[20:44] <iUnify> I did.
[20:44] <holstein> iUnify: what installed then?
[20:44] <iUnify> I do.  and I have.
[20:44] <holstein> iUnify: just plain ubuntu 12.04?
[20:44] <iUnify> Yes.
[20:44] <iUnify> But it only does SOMETIMES.
[20:44] <holstein> iUnify: if so, use it, and convert it to ubuntustudio
[20:45] <holstein> iUnify: *dont* *install* ubuntustudio
[20:45] <iUnify> I know.
[20:45] <holstein> iUnify: the end result will be the same
[20:45] <holstein> iUnify: i dont think you do, if you are wasting months on this
[20:45] <iUnify> Ubuntu 12.04.2 that worked SOMETIMES does not work EVERYTIME.  Only RARELY.
[20:45] <holstein> iUnify: you can insatll 12.04? main ubuntu 12.04?
[20:45] <holstein> iUnify: then, thats is not the same case you reported above
[20:46] <iUnify> It is.  Ubuntu 12.04.2 successfully installs everytime as does every ther distro BUT 12.04.2 is the ONLY one to ever not have a video issue, which is only SOMETIMES, most of the time even that too has a vido issue at boot.
[20:46] <holstein> iUnify: fact.. none of this is ubuntustudio related, specifically, so you can go right to the larger (and more relevant) ubuntu community for the video grahpics driver support issues
[20:46] <holstein> fact: the vesa driver will work with xfce..
[20:47] <holstein> iUnify: what would i do? get a knoppix live cD and test it.. grab the xorg.conf
[20:47] <iUnify> I know we went over this yesterday my friend but it goes over my head.
[20:48] <holstein> iUnify: and, it will.. you are choosing to use hardware that guarantees you windows support.. not linux
[20:48] <holstein> so, you must learn to supprot it
[20:48] <holstein> support it
[20:48] <holstein> you can do that by doing to the larger ubuntu community
[20:48] <iUnify> I am stuck with the hardware I have sadly for the time being and yes I am eager to learn it...
[20:48] <holstein> you are *never* stuck with anything
[20:49] <holstein> you can choose to earn to support that hardware, and the vesa driver is a way to do so
[20:49] <holstein> !vesa
[20:49] <iUnify> Yes
[20:49] <iUnify> Boot options uponinstall
[20:49] <holstein> http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html is what i use to aquire xorg.conf files
[20:49] <iUnify> xforcevesa
[20:49] <iUnify> doesnt work
[20:49] <iUnify> also tried adding other things after the -- but that didnt work.
[20:49] <holstein> iUnify: thats why i suggest using puppy linux or knoppix because you will *know* that it will work
[20:50] <holstein> its not a boot option.
[20:50] <iUnify> one sec looking now
[20:50] <holstein> its not the answer
[20:50] <holstein> its a way to aquire the anwer
[20:50] <holstein> answer*
[20:50] <iUnify> cn i use this on usb or only dvd?
[20:50] <holstein> if i were at the machine, i could try a few things, and get a working setup for it
[20:50] <holstein> im not, so you have to learn to do so
[20:51] <holstein> iUnify: that is a live CD.. you can use it however you like.. unetbootin via USB or a CD.. or literally wahtever
[20:51] <holstein> whatever*
[20:51] <iUnify> awesome
[20:52] <holstein> ok.. ihave to run.. please try #ubuntu and troubleshoot main ubuntu wih the graphics driver seperate from ubuntustudio