| ali1234 | andrzejr: works perfectly except for one thing | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| ali1234 | it still doesn't detect all the small icons | 00:02 |
| ali1234 | did you mean to put box->is_small = (box->pixbuf_h <= ICON_SIZE && box->pixbuf_w <= ICON_SIZE); | 00:02 |
| ali1234 | even that wouldn't completely work as the sound menu icon is 24x22 | 00:03 |
| ali1234 | anyway, alignment is perfect now | 00:03 |
| ali1234 | it even makes the buttons fill the whole panel when there's one row, even if single row mode isn't turned on | 00:05 |
| ali1234 | i couldn't figure out how to do that :) | 00:05 |
| andrzejr | hmm.. sound menu icon works here (is "small") | 00:06 |
| ali1234 | try with ubuntu-mono-light or -dark - the icon there is a different size | 00:06 |
| ali1234 | i dunno why they decided to make is a different size to the others :| | 00:07 |
| ali1234 | bluetooth is also not square in that icon set | 00:07 |
| andrzejr | I'll change the condition to w <= 24 && h <= 24, can't allow more wiggle room or the layout will break | 00:07 |
| ali1234 | it seems to crop the icons anyway, if they are bigger | 00:08 |
| ali1234 | i tried changing ICON_SIZE a few times to see what would happen | 00:08 |
| ali1234 | for small icons, it doesn't care the real pixbuf size, i think - unless that's what you changed to fix the layout | 00:08 |
| andrzejr | I want "really big" icons (like load monitor) to be laid out separately. The question is where to put the threshold. | 00:10 |
| ali1234 | yeah true | 00:11 |
| ali1234 | 24px is enough anyway as long as they don't change the icons again | 00:11 |
| ali1234 | unrelated: did mousewheel on the sound icon (not the menu) ever work? | 00:12 |
| ali1234 | it's broken in the indicator currently i think, so i can't test it | 00:12 |
| andrzejr | I wish the icons were scalable, btw. | 00:12 |
| ali1234 | maybe that will happen with unity 8 | 00:17 |
| Unit193 | ali1234: Yes it did, works for me right now. | 00:18 |
| ali1234 | hmm ok, must be the indicator then | 00:18 |
| andrzejr | scroll event doesn't get to the button, some issue with my Gtk code | 00:20 |
| andrzejr | heh.. I've broken the layout of icon+label indicators on 13.04 | 00:25 |
| ali1234 | which indicator has both? | 00:25 |
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| andrzejr | ali1234, session (icon+username) | 00:42 |
| eco2geek | For the artwork team: what's the meaning of the dots in the default 13.10 wallpaper, please? | 04:18 |
| Unit193 | 13.10 1 dot, 3 dots, dot higher 1 so it'd be different than the dot. | 04:19 |
| eco2geek | Oh, as in 1-3 1-0 S? | 04:23 |
| Unit193 | The Xubuntu release version, yeah. | 04:29 |
| Unit193 | (You can't have a dot for zero, of course.) | 04:29 |
| eco2geek | looks like it's got a line for the "1" and a little "o" for zero - followed by a stylized "S" | 04:30 |
| eco2geek | of course it'd be nice to have a version without the dots, but c'est la vie | 04:31 |
| Unit193 | ...We may not be looking at the same image. | 04:32 |
| Unit193 | http://temp.knome.fi/.expwall/wallpaper-saucy-omnicolor-blueish.png more or less, but could be a different color? | 04:34 |
| Unit193 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/1enbx25mklupdgr/bg.png?m is mine. | 04:35 |
| eco2geek | this one - http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Xubuntu-13-10-Alpha-2-Saucy-Salamander-Officially-Released-Screenshot-Tour-371185-2.jpg?1374822273 | 04:37 |
| Unit193 | Aha, 13.04, it was Raring's wallpaper. | 04:38 |
| eco2geek | Ah, gotcha. Beta 1 doesn't have the final wallpaper in it then | 04:39 |
| Unit193 | Not sure if what I linked will be final, but it's a mockup (would be blue, not red.) | 04:40 |
| eco2geek | well beta 1's color scheme looks very nice -- good luck with development | 04:43 |
| Unit193 | Thanks, good luck with using it? ;) | 04:43 |
| eco2geek | that's what i like about the *buntu family - easy to use. of course i have some strong opinions about look n feel | 04:45 |
| eco2geek | but who's going to listen to me anyway :-) | 04:45 |
| Unit193 | I did, but that doesn't count. | 04:46 |
| eco2geek | :-) | 04:54 |
| eco2geek | just consider making a version without the dots :-) | 05:00 |
| Unit193 | knome: Yer dots smell funny. Too large to do a dotless one as well? | 05:01 |
| knome | Unit193, i can surely at least export versions without the dots. | 06:04 |
| Unit193 | Yep, but ISO size. | 06:05 |
| knome | hah. | 06:07 |
| knome | we're at about 800MB, and our "target" is 1GB... | 06:07 |
| knome | sure, we can fit that in | 06:07 |
| knome | just not sure if it's the thing we want to do ;) | 06:07 |
| * Unit193 prefers 800. | 06:08 | |
| knome | yup | 06:08 |
| knome | but that's just an arbitrary number | 06:08 |
| knome | going, say, 820, isn't making us technically oversized | 06:08 |
| olbi | hi guys, I found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/lightdm-session-locker-light-locker.html | 06:12 |
| olbi | maybe we could add this to Xubuntu 13.10? :) | 06:12 |
| knome | olbi, feature freeze. | 06:13 |
| Unit193 | And some xubuntu members where involved in making that. :P | 06:14 |
| olbi | good to hear that :) | 06:15 |
| Noskcaj | micahg, mr_pouit: Would either of you be able to give me testimonials for MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj#MOTU | 08:07 |
| Noskcaj | Or anyone? | 08:07 |
| Noskcaj | bug 1221426 | 09:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1221426 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "incorrect mimetype in defaults.list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221426 | 09:23 |
| ochosi | meh, i still seem to have the reboot-bug (just kicks me to the greeter) | 12:23 |
| elfy | nvidia works fine for me in 13.10 SuperLag - using nouveau atm but was using the nvidia one for a while | 12:41 |
| ochosi | elfy: you don't have any issues rebooting in saucy, right? | 12:42 |
| elfy | fraid not ochosi | 12:43 |
| ochosi | (and you also have xfce4-session_4.10.1-1ubuntu1 ?) | 12:43 |
| elfy | well - actually | 12:43 |
| elfy | not sure not checked lately - 2 secs ... | 12:43 |
| elfy | ochosi: reboots fine - Installed: 4.10.1-1ubuntu1 for xfce4-session | 12:47 |
| ochosi | elfy: could you check the output of "cat .cache/upstart/startxfce4.log | grep systemd" ? | 12:48 |
| elfy | no result | 12:48 |
| ochosi | hmm | 12:49 |
| ochosi | i get a systemd error | 12:49 |
| ochosi | so maybe that's a result of upgrading or something | 12:49 |
| elfy | I'll boot one of the vms - update that and have a look | 12:50 |
| ochosi | thanks, that'd be great | 12:50 |
| elfy | is this a machine you did 13.04 to 13.10 upgrade on? | 12:50 |
| ochosi | yup | 12:51 |
| elfy | if so I'll look at lappy | 12:51 |
| elfy | ok - last thing laptop did was an upgrade test - I'll look there first | 12:51 |
| ochosi | cool | 12:51 |
| elfy | lol - vm doesn't even have .cache/upstart | 12:56 |
| elfy | I'll update that then ... | 12:57 |
| elfy | yes it does - fail reading | 12:58 |
| elfy | laptop reboots fine - no systemd in startxfce4log | 12:58 |
| brainwash | looks like the package systemd-shim does not get pulled in when doing an upgrade to 13.10 -> missing dependency? | 13:00 |
| ochosi | brainwash: installing that fixes it for you? | 13:02 |
| brainwash | I didn't try yet | 13:02 |
| ochosi | aha | 13:02 |
| elfy | my laptop was a 13.04-13.10 upgrade 32bit | 13:03 |
| brainwash | don't want my pc to suddenly shutdown my session, in case installing the package does fix the issue :) | 13:03 |
| ochosi | i installed the package, installation alone doesn't do anything wonky ;) | 13:03 |
| ochosi | elfy: do you have that package installed? | 13:04 |
| elfy | ochosi: you want me to redo with a 64bit - fine by me | 13:04 |
| ochosi | let's dig a bit more before sending you through the pains of doing an upgrade test | 13:04 |
| elfy | installed | 13:05 |
| ochosi | we might need that in the end anyway maybe, to confirm whatever we found uot | 13:05 |
| ochosi | hm, i didn't have the package | 13:05 |
| elfy | well it's no pain - apart from running unetbootin a couple of times | 13:05 |
| ochosi | so maybe brainwash is right | 13:05 |
| elfy | ochosi: but do you have 64bit - if you do I should do the test - then we know it's more than you 2 | 13:05 |
| elfy | assuming brainwash is on 64bit | 13:06 |
| ochosi | i'm on 64bit | 13:06 |
| brainwash | yes | 13:06 |
| elfy | ok - well I didn't check reboot with 64bit | 13:06 |
| ochosi | i can test as soon as my upload of a file finishes | 13:07 |
| ochosi | (few mins) | 13:07 |
| elfy | and it's quicker to do it with a real machine than vm - happy to do it if you want me to | 13:07 |
| brainwash | cannot test it just now either | 13:07 |
| ochosi | elfy: sure, just give me 5 more mins | 13:08 |
| elfy | ok - vm updated - that's all working ok - but that's not an upgrade | 13:13 |
| brainwash | taking this image as reference http://i1.wp.com/www.smdavis.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/greybird-firefox.png the X button on my firefox tabs appears to be twice as big | 13:14 |
| brainwash | after upgrading to 13.10 | 13:14 |
| elfy | mines always been bigger than that | 13:14 |
| ochosi | ok folks i just tested | 13:14 |
| elfy | no change? | 13:14 |
| ochosi | and a reboot later things are fixed | 13:15 |
| ochosi | so it was the missing package | 13:15 |
| brainwash | hooray :) | 13:15 |
| elfy | ok - I'll not do more than | 13:15 |
| ochosi | brainwash: my tab-close is exactly that size | 13:15 |
| brainwash | ochosi: really strange | 13:15 |
| ochosi | elfy: well being able to confirm that the package is missing would be cool but not 100% necessary maybe | 13:15 |
| ochosi | not sure why it's missing on an upgrade anyway... | 13:15 |
| ochosi | brainwash: screenshot? | 13:16 |
| elfy | ochosi: well I'll do an upgrade then I can confirm properly | 13:16 |
| ochosi | brainwash: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-09062013-031617pm.php | 13:16 |
| ochosi | elfy: great, then we get a proper bugreport | 13:16 |
| elfy | http://imagebin.org/270046 | 13:16 |
| elfy | ochosi: | 13:16 |
| elfy | sigh ... | 13:16 |
| elfy | ochosi: yep :) | 13:16 |
| ochosi | that's a different icon theme | 13:17 |
| ochosi | so no wonder those icons are different (incl the close-button) :) | 13:17 |
| elfy | I just use whatever is default | 13:17 |
| ochosi | impossible | 13:17 |
| elfy | oh | 13:17 |
| elfy | hang on I use faenza icons lol | 13:17 |
| ochosi | yup, i know | 13:17 |
| ochosi | i recognized it | 13:17 |
| elfy | :) | 13:18 |
| elfy | what is the default icon theme :) | 13:18 |
| brainwash | http://oi39.tinypic.com/n6cahs.jpg | 13:18 |
| ochosi | elementary-xfce-darker | 13:18 |
| brainwash | ^ screenshot of firefox | 13:19 |
| ochosi | in all fairness, that's not ff but aurora | 13:19 |
| ochosi | so it might also be a problem with these nightly builds | 13:19 |
| elfy | mine looks more or less the same now | 13:19 |
| ochosi | rly? | 13:19 |
| ochosi | :/ | 13:19 |
| brainwash | it's the same firefox/package I was using before upgrading to 13.10 | 13:19 |
| ochosi | so there's an icon inheritance bug or something | 13:20 |
| brainwash | maybe some sort of touch-enabled behavior did kick in | 13:21 |
| ochosi | meh, what the heck, the 16px folder is empty | 13:21 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: what did you upload there!! | 13:21 |
| brainwash | :D | 13:21 |
| ochosi | so sorry, half my baed | 13:21 |
| ochosi | bad | 13:21 |
| ochosi | but it'll get fixed | 13:21 |
| * ochosi knocks on wood | 13:22 | |
| ochosi | (it's already fixed in git, just a matter of uploading) | 13:22 |
| brainwash | to be honest I kinda start to like these bigger buttons :) | 13:22 |
| brainwash | ochosi: that's great | 13:23 |
| ochosi | then never update the icon-package again ;) | 13:23 |
| elfy | ok - installing 13.04 now | 13:23 |
| brainwash | so "systemd-services" only recommends systemd or systemd-shim | 13:26 |
| brainwash | and usually recommended packages are installed by default, or? | 13:28 |
| ochosi | so maybe we don't treat recommends as depends anymore | 13:28 |
| elfy | synaptic here has consider recommended as dependencies as false | 13:31 |
| elfy | and I don't fiddle | 13:31 |
| ochosi | ali1234: by the way, i'm pushing a new meta icon-theme at the moment that is designed towards Orion (elementary-xfce-darker), will land in xubuntu-artwork in a few minutes and then i hope mr_pouit updates the package soon | 13:31 |
| ochosi | also, the latest indicator-changes from you guys really fixed positioning here | 13:32 |
| ochosi | awesome work! | 13:32 |
| elfy | ochosi: so assuming it all fails for me here after the upgrade I'll do a bug report - but what package shall I report against | 13:53 |
| SuperLag | I'm thinking about upgrading to 13.10b1, my only concern is Nvidia drivers. Any of you guys hear of issues with the latest beta and Nvidia stuff? | 13:54 |
| elfy | becasue systemd-shim won't be installed | 13:54 |
| elfy | SuperLag: not heard or seen anything - works ok with nouveau and nvidia-current for me - or did | 13:55 |
| SuperLag | excellent | 13:55 |
| SuperLag | I have a bunch of 3rd-party stuff too, but none of it is crucial for $DAYJOB, and I can wait for it. :) | 13:56 |
| elfy | regardless of that I would check that it works for you with the live session first - I'd not install a beta if it was my only machine | 13:57 |
| SuperLag | I've had it running in VM for quite awhile. It's great. | 14:01 |
| ochosi | elfy: i'd report it against xfce4-session, it should pull in both | 14:03 |
| ochosi | apart from the logout issue i dont see any real blockers ahead so far | 14:03 |
| elfy | okey doke | 14:03 |
| elfy | well I don't like the indicator-sound issue | 14:03 |
| elfy | nor the not being able to logout properly issue | 14:04 |
| ochosi | elfy: yeah, i agree, we should keep a list of these issues somewhere | 14:06 |
| SuperLag | haha | 14:07 |
| SuperLag | I just noticed a cosmetic bug in the updater. | 14:08 |
| elfy | ochosi: agreed - that is somewhere tangible - my head, your head, knome's head shouldn't count | 14:08 |
| SuperLag | it says it's upgrading to 13.04 | 14:08 |
| SuperLag | rather than 13.10 | 14:08 |
| ochosi | elfy: i also tend to forget about indicator-sound because i have the gtk3 indicators installed... | 14:08 |
| brainwash | SuperLag: noticed that too | 14:08 |
| elfy | I'm in the less than useful position of being half way between both at the moment ochosi | 14:09 |
| ochosi | elfy: yeah, no worries, indicator-sound should be fixed anyway | 14:10 |
| elfy | indeed - but at the moment it's in my list :) | 14:11 |
| SuperLag | *sigh* | 14:12 |
| elfy | SuperLag: is that bug if you upgrade via net - the 13.10 iso I am upgrading with refers to 13.10 | 14:12 |
| SuperLag | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-09062013-071137am.php | 14:12 |
| elfy | I'd be looking at ppa's and 3rd party sources first | 14:12 |
| elfy | ochosi: that's a point - did you upgrade to 13.10 with an iso or via net? | 14:14 |
| SuperLag | One of the previous steps said it disabled 3rd-party sources. | 14:14 |
| SuperLag | So I figured that would do the trick. Should I actually remove those packages? or just disable the PPA's? | 14:14 |
| elfy | SuperLag: is the 13.04 completely up to date? | 14:14 |
| SuperLag | it is | 14:14 |
| elfy | I'd boot that - make sure it is up to date and disable them there - then try the upgrade | 14:15 |
| elfy | just don't update it ... | 14:15 |
| elfy | ochosi: mine rebooted ... | 14:24 |
| elfy | might have zsynced the image since then redoing it ... | 14:31 |
| elfy | knome: http://pad.ubuntu.com/duYDbHFs7s | 14:42 |
| ochosi | elfy: i upgraded via net | 15:00 |
| elfy | ok - I'll do the same then | 15:00 |
| elfy | just reinstalling 13.04 atm | 15:01 |
| ochosi | hm, USC really has become more responsive | 15:02 |
| elfy | I never notice I'm afraid | 15:04 |
| brainwash | pulls way too many dependencies, so I got rid of it | 15:05 |
| ochosi | i usually only notice by accident | 15:05 |
| elfy | lol | 15:05 |
| ochosi | hm, stupid skype is still unthemed and doesn't use its indicator for some reason | 15:05 |
| brainwash | how does the application menu hide Thunar.desktop and xfce4-terminal.desktop? | 15:05 |
| ochosi | some *** in my .config prevents it it seems | 15:05 |
| ochosi | brainwash: it doesn't here, both in accessories | 15:06 |
| ochosi | hmpf, USC still pops up stupid debconf windows | 15:06 |
| brainwash | ochosi: the real ones or just the generic exo ones? | 15:07 |
| ochosi | generic ones | 15:11 |
| elfy | ochosi: not sure this is going to be worth it - running the upgrade via net - it's got systemd-shim in the list of packages to install | 15:12 |
| elfy | but I can do it if you feel it's can help | 15:12 |
| ochosi | hm nah, not sure then | 15:12 |
| ochosi | i'm not sure what went wrong here and why the package wasn't installed | 15:12 |
| ochosi | maybe it wasn't on the mirror i used | 15:12 |
| elfy | possible - also - when did you do the upgrade? | 15:13 |
| brainwash | or it's caused by customizing the 13.04 installation (removing/installing packages) | 15:14 |
| elfy | yep | 15:14 |
| elfy | hard to tell | 15:14 |
| elfy | at least we know what is going on though | 15:14 |
| brainwash | I usually tend to remove many packages and only use what I really need | 15:15 |
| elfy | mmm | 15:15 |
| brainwash | but it's still a dependency issue, isn't it? | 15:16 |
| brainwash | and upgrading normally pulls the xubuntu meta package | 15:17 |
| ochosi | elfy: i upgraded two or three days ago | 15:19 |
| brainwash | me just yesterday | 15:19 |
| elfy | ok | 15:19 |
| elfy | well I get lost looking at dependencies - -shim appears to be a dependant of -services which is a dependant of xfce4-powermanager | 15:20 |
| brainwash | ochosi: did you add the gnome 3.8 ppa? | 15:20 |
| ochosi | meh, my vbox+extensions doesn't recognize any usb devices, how is that possible... :'( | 15:20 |
| ochosi | brainwash: nope, should i? | 15:21 |
| brainwash | ochosi: no, was just thinking that having gnome 3.8 packages could have somehow prevent systemd-shim from being installed | 15:21 |
| ochosi | could've just as well been some other ppa | 15:22 |
| brainwash | yea, but I would only associate gnome with systemd | 15:23 |
| ochosi | i guess ubuntu is one of the few distros that i wouldn't associate with systemd, all the others will get it in the long run i guess | 15:23 |
| brainwash | hopefully one of you will create a bug report addressing this issue, or isn't it worth it? well, it should be :) | 15:25 |
| elfy | brainwash: well it would be better done on with ubuntu-bug with a machine that has the issue - like your's :) | 15:26 |
| elfy | then someone can confirm it - like ochosi who's got a fixed machine - I've not found the bug - and this laptop try is going to install it | 15:27 |
| brainwash | elfy: can you remove systemd-shim? | 15:28 |
| brainwash | removing it should be possible either I think | 15:28 |
| elfy | why would I do that? | 15:29 |
| brainwash | if you can remove it easily wihtout removing other (important) packages, then something is wrong | 15:30 |
| brainwash | because apparently xfce4-session requires it to restart/shutdown | 15:30 |
| elfy | it's not saying anything other than do I want to :) | 15:30 |
| brainwash | simulate it then :P | 15:31 |
| brainwash | or are my thoughts plain wrong? | 15:32 |
| elfy | well - what is the problem with you reporting the bug? | 15:32 |
| brainwash | technically I'm not affected anymore after installing the package manually | 15:32 |
| brainwash | so the question is: can you remove the package manually or will other packages get removed also? | 15:33 |
| elfy | nothing else gets removed | 15:34 |
| elfy | so something is not right somewhere | 15:34 |
| brainwash | well, this is an issue | 15:34 |
| brainwash | missing dependency | 15:34 |
| elfy | yep - but as I said ^^ I'm lost looking for it at the moment | 15:34 |
| brainwash | guess I file a bug report later, could be always marked as duplicate if another one already exists :) | 15:36 |
| elfy | I'll do it now | 15:39 |
| elfy | it's definitely the cause :) | 15:41 |
| elfy | ochosi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/1221809 | 15:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1221809 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "systemd-shim removal causes restart to logout" [Undecided,New] | 15:45 |
| elfy | ochosi: I subscribed the xubuntu bug team to that now as well | 15:53 |
| ochosi | elfy: thanks! | 15:59 |
| elfy | nothing more I can do - shall put the kettle on now | 16:01 |
| elfy | knome: I'm doing a general post to -dev m/l - you got any problem with me including the Upgrade tests in it? | 16:22 |
| brainwash | elfy: thanks for reporting :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/1221809 | 16:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1221809 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "systemd-shim removal causes restart to logout" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:23 |
| elfy | brainwash: welcome | 16:24 |
| SuperLag | elfy: 13.10 is nice. nvidia-current worked fine, as well | 16:37 |
| elfy | I'm sure those who've worked towards it will be pleased to hear that :) | 16:38 |
| ochosi | most def | 16:39 |
| ochosi | elfy: well you did too! | 16:39 |
| ochosi | this was one of the most active testing cycles i've seen so far | 16:39 |
| elfy | well I do that :) | 16:39 |
| elfy | and thanks - I'm glad it'd been worth it :) | 16:40 |
| SuperLag | I forgot to make backups of some of my .desktop files. Is there a way to generate a shell of a .desktop file, something with the bare minimum of required lines? | 16:42 |
| SuperLag | I should get in the habit of putting those in ~/.local/share/applications/ rather than /usr/share/applications/... as that would have helped me to avoid all that mess :) | 16:43 |
| pleia2 | knome: btw, rt@ubuntu.com hates my lyz@ubuntu.com email address, so if there are updates to the static ticket I need to act on, please let me know :) | 18:15 |
| elfy | sigh at sending mails instead of saving them :| | 19:25 |
| lderan | :( | 19:26 |
| elfy | pleia2: next time someone does anything with the website - there's a couple of oddities on http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ "and participate discussions" and "Be in contact" | 19:27 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Did you mess with indicators in raring? Purge systemd-services maybe? | 19:27 |
| pleia2 | elfy: can you submit a bug with the edits required? https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website | 19:30 |
| pleia2 | elfy: we don't really have a schedule for updates (it's just wordpress, no 'releases' of pages really), but I try to go through bug reports somewhat regularly | 19:30 |
| elfy | pleia2: yep of course I can - didn't know it was there :) | 19:31 |
| elfy | oh - I thought I had rights to the wordpress thingy | 19:32 |
| elfy | though it was a long time ago I last looked at it | 19:32 |
| pleia2 | elfy: you should be able to log in to wordpress, but probably not edit pages and things, probably just to review posts | 19:33 |
| Unit193 | And draft, but not publish. | 19:33 |
| elfy | can't remember - nor remember even how to :p | 19:33 |
| elfy | bug done | 19:37 |
| ochosi | Unit193: no, there was no messing with systemd in raring | 20:47 |
| ochosi | hey andrzejr | 23:25 |
| andrzejr | hi | 23:26 |
| ochosi | the latest version works great wrt positioning | 23:26 |
| ochosi | i started testing/using it today | 23:26 |
| andrzejr | good | 23:28 |
| ochosi | to me it feels kinda ready | 23:28 |
| ochosi | not much left to do | 23:29 |
| andrzejr | scroll events still don't go through, though | 23:29 |
| ochosi | unless maybe fix the scroll-event | 23:29 |
| ochosi | ah | 23:29 |
| ochosi | yeah :) | 23:29 |
| ochosi | i sent an email to nick about a release of libxfce4ui a few minutes ago | 23:29 |
| ochosi | we need it for the next parole-release as well | 23:29 |
| ochosi | after the scroll-event, the next big thing would be merging the wrapper3 branch to master... | 23:30 |
| andrzejr | they get all the way through to WrapperPlug so the problem is somewhere in the plugin or libxfce4-panel | 23:30 |
| ochosi | weird, but those signals haven't significantly changed with gtk3 afaik | 23:30 |
| andrzejr | I don't know what's wrong yet | 23:31 |
| andrzejr | re: transparency issue in the panel - panel in 13.10 is transparent (gtk2 part) in 13.04 is not. maybe something was fixed in gtk 3.8 | 23:32 |
| ochosi | hm, i'm on 13.10 and it doesn't work for me | 23:33 |
| ochosi | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-09072013-013343am.php | 23:33 |
| andrzejr | what part? indicator plugin? | 23:33 |
| ochosi | yup | 23:33 |
| andrzejr | that's because of a workaround we've added to the panel (wrapper) | 23:34 |
| andrzejr | otherwise gtk3 plugins were completely transparent. | 23:34 |
| ochosi | odd | 23:34 |
| ochosi | so how is it working for you then? | 23:34 |
| ochosi | did you push out the workaround? | 23:35 |
| Unit193 | My panel on raring is transparent. :D | 23:35 |
| ochosi | Unit193: panel transparency isn't the issue, it's gtk2 + gtk3 in a panel + transparency for both | 23:35 |
| andrzejr | ochosi, did you fix padding in greybird? | 23:36 |
| ochosi | well it's the same as trayicons now | 23:37 |
| ochosi | so for me that's fixed | 23:37 |
| ochosi | but better thest it for yourself and tell me whether you're ok with it | 23:38 |
| andrzejr | just pulled, still zero padding | 23:38 |
| ochosi | you mean space between the indicators? | 23:38 |
| andrzejr | button sizes are same as icon sizes (22px), which makes the layout very tight | 23:39 |
| ochosi | (i didn't add that because it looks weird with the trayicons not having any padding in-between) | 23:39 |
| andrzejr | systray has its own issues but all other plugins have some padding. | 23:40 |
| andrzejr | indicator plugin also used to have some previously | 23:41 |
| ochosi | can you show me a screenshot plz? | 23:41 |
| andrzejr | greybird in 13.10 looks ok, btw. only git version has this packing issue | 23:43 |
| ochosi | that's odd, cause the 13.10 version doesn't have any special theming applied to the indicators | 23:43 |
| ochosi | so the bg-color should also be wrong | 23:43 |
| andrzejr | bg-color is wrong but spacing is fine | 23:45 |
| ochosi | now i only added a check to set the border-radius to 0 (no roundness) and the fg-color to white | 23:47 |
| ochosi | and personally i don't see a difference | 23:47 |
| andrzejr | http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/indicator-greybird-git.php | 23:49 |
| andrzejr | what's not visible on screenshot is that the hover highlight is exactly the same size as some of the icons (clementine, multiload) or labels. | 23:51 |
| ochosi | so you're comparing launchers to the indicators? | 23:52 |
| andrzejr | on the left are other plugins (places and launchers) | 23:52 |
| andrzejr | just as an example of a correct padding. | 23:52 |
| andrzejr | look at (no) space between the clock and the clementine indicator, or the multiload one. | 23:53 |
| ochosi | are those rows? | 23:54 |
| ochosi | tbh i'm a bit confused on what starts and ends where in this screenshot | 23:54 |
| ochosi | fwiw, this is how it looks for me: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-09072013-015332am.php | 23:54 |
| ochosi | (2 trayicons, 3 indicators, 2 launchers) | 23:54 |
| andrzejr | yes, these are rows but with a single row there is still zero padding. | 23:55 |
| ochosi | no extra padding between the launchers, they're really next to each other | 23:55 |
| andrzejr | strange, that's not what I see. | 23:56 |
| andrzejr | what gtk version? | 23:56 |
| ochosi | 3.8 | 23:56 |
| ochosi | if i add back the borders, the icons get clipped in a 24px panel | 23:57 |
| ochosi | even if i comment out everything, except the colorchanges, i never get a result close to what you have with your launchers in gtk2 | 23:59 |
| ochosi | are you sure you didn't add spacers in between? :) | 23:59 |
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