[02:06] <manchicken> apachelogger: Did you see my post on Trello?
[05:21] <ScottK> shadeslayer: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-September/001714.html
[06:03] <QwertyKb> Is plasma active 4 available for 13.10 or 13.04?
[06:10] <valorie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/releases/
[06:10] <valorie> we're only in beta 1 for 13.10
[06:10] <valorie> so there is no 'release'
[06:14] <QwertyKb> valorie: I am aware, but I was referring to the version of plasma active in the 13.10 repos or ppa for 13.04
[06:15] <valorie> I can only tell ya what I know, which is what i found
[06:20] <QwertyKb> ok 😊
[07:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:12] <Odur> Hello. A regression has sneaked in to kde-runtime 4.11.1. There is a patch available. http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=117331
[10:12] <smartboyhw> Odur, has it been merged into upstream?
[10:12]  * smartboyhw is now more wary of patches:P
[10:13] <smartboyhw> Odur, has the patch been merged upstream?
[10:13] <Odur> smartboyhw: Will be official in 4.11.2
[10:13] <smartboyhw> Odur, OK, what's the patch name?
[10:13] <Odur> a moment
[10:13] <Odur> https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-runtime/repository/revisions/be1a5d484c70f4f6a383150810afbfbb367db2ac
[10:14] <smartboyhw> Odur, thank you:)
[10:14] <Odur> you're welcome :)
[10:14] <smartboyhw> ^ Nobody have objections pulling the patch in?
[10:15] <Odur> It's annoying to have to double-click in the task manager :)
[10:20] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yofel shadeslayer: You OK pulling the patch in? I want a prior approval
[10:22] <yofel> smartboyhw: ack
[10:22] <smartboyhw> yofel, thanks:)
[10:22] <yofel> I have to run though, so won't upload
[10:23] <smartboyhw> yofel, sure
[10:32] <smartboyhw> Riddell, shadeslayer : Patch in the ~kubuntu-packagers kde-runtime branch, waiting for upload
[10:32] <Odur> smartboyhw: Good work :)
[10:32] <smartboyhw> Odur, thank you:)
[10:33] <smartboyhw> BTW: Time to investigate where the hell did solid/control/networkmanagement.cpp gone in 4.11-.-
[10:33] <smartboyhw> It's breaking plasma builds-.-
[10:33] <smartboyhw> *Plasma Active
[10:35] <Kalidarn> i've noticed with the ppa updates today task manager seems to require you to double click on an application to switch/minimize it
[10:35] <smartboyhw> Riddell, you'd better restart the kde-workspace build in 4.11.1
[10:35] <Kalidarn> is this a bug?
[10:35] <smartboyhw> Kalidarn, yeah, we're fixing
[10:35] <smartboyhw> Will push a fix very soon
[10:35] <Kalidarn> ah kay :)
[10:36] <smartboyhw> Hmm, solid/control/networkmanagement isn't in list-missing of kde-workspace -.-
[10:46] <smartboyhw> Kalidarn, Odur: Fix uploading for raring
[10:46] <smartboyhw> For Saucy, I need somebody to upload it for me
[10:47] <Odur> smartboyhw:  Wonderful. Thank you
[10:48] <Odur> I think I'll stay at this channel :)
[10:48] <smartboyhw> Odur, great:)
[10:49] <smartboyhw> kubotu: newversion digikam 3.4.0
[10:49] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1222115
[10:49] <smartboyhw> ^ Sigh, need to file an FFe later:(
[11:03] <Kalidarn> yay smartboyhw 
[11:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:50] <smartboyhw> kubotu: newpackage kqoauth 0.97
[11:50] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1222128
[11:50] <smartboyhw> (We will want it for Digikam)
[12:11] <yofel> smartboyhw: solid networkmanagement headers are in networkmanagement now, and not shipped
[12:11] <yofel> you'll have to get those through binary NEW
[12:12] <yofel> it was removed from kde-workspace in 4.11 and copied into the NM applet as that was the only user
[12:13] <shadeslayer> ScottK: awesome !
[12:13] <yofel> smartboyhw: btw. I already made a todo bug for digikam yesterday........
[12:16]  * yofel looks at kde-runtime
[12:26] <smartboyhw> yofel, -.-
[12:26] <smartboyhw> yofel, binary NEW?
[12:27] <yofel> if you need those make a new file called networkmanagement-dev or plasma-widget-networkmanagement-dev and put them there
[12:27] <smartboyhw> yofel, BTW, if a software has a debian/ folder itself, what TODO if I want to package it?
[12:27] <yofel> you might need an FFe for that
[12:27]  * smartboyhw hates FFe(s) -.-:P
[12:28] <yofel> you could put it into the PA4 FFE maybe as that's why you need it
[12:29] <yofel> hm, if it already has a debian folder in the upstream source then I would delete that and repack the source
[12:39]  * yofel gone again
[12:43] <soee> hiho
[13:07] <Odur> smartboyhw: The new kde-runtime works perfectly
[13:08] <Kalidarn> updating.
[13:17] <smartboyhw> Odur, great:)
[13:24] <smartboyhw> Better upload digiKam without kQOAuth, will wait until upstream removes the debian dir.
[13:56] <smartboyhw> Hmm, why do I always get 404 in pbuilder-dist -.-
[13:56] <smartboyhw> (And that's only for SOME packages, not all)
[14:42] <shrinivasan> hello all
[14:42] <shrinivasan> i need some guide on how to test the kubuntu saucy
[14:42] <smartboyhw> Hello shrinivasan 
[14:43] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, a guide?
[14:43] <shrinivasan> i am running testdrive-gtk
[14:43] <shrinivasan> and downloading it
[14:43] <shrinivasan> yes
[14:43] <shrinivasan> smartboyhw: hi
[14:43] <shrinivasan> what to test
[14:43] <shrinivasan> and how to
[14:43] <shrinivasan> manually or automated?
[14:43] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, it's manual.
[14:43] <shrinivasan> smartboyhw: do we have any tracker/wiki to document the test cases and results?
[14:44] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[14:44] <shrinivasan> checking it
[14:46] <shrinivasan> what should we test?
[14:47] <shrinivasan> daily/alpha/beta?
[14:47] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, daily
[14:47] <smartboyhw> Alpha 1 and Alpha 2 and Beta 1 are released:P
[14:47] <shrinivasan> nice
[14:47] <shrinivasan> ok
[14:48] <shrinivasan> hope all the tests were run against alpha1,2 and beta1
[14:48] <shrinivasan> do we need to run the tests again for daily?
[14:48] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, well, I don't think anyone will have time to run the tests *daily*
[14:48] <shrinivasan> so?
[14:49] <smartboyhw> Daily images will be produced every day, yes, but don't test it everyday
[14:49] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, normally, when we really call for testing is when we are about to release 
[14:49] <shrinivasan> o
[14:49] <shrinivasan> h
[14:49] <shrinivasan> so we are yet to receive this call. right?
[14:49] <shrinivasan> found http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/270/builds/53013/testcases
[14:50] <shrinivasan> are these only the test cases?
[14:50] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, yes, we will call before the release of Beta 2. And yes, these are the testcases
[14:52] <shrinivasan> great
[14:52] <shrinivasan> will do the testing
[14:52] <shrinivasan> anyhow, the testdrive is downloading the daily pack
[14:53] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, sure
[14:53] <shrinivasan> hope it wont download the entire stuff next time, when beta 2 released
[14:53] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, it won't.
[14:53] <smartboyhw> It uses a tool called zsync
[14:53] <smartboyhw> Which syncs the contents of the ISO instead of downloading it in full.
[14:56] <shrinivasan> super
[14:57] <shrinivasan> what are the other ways we can contribute to kubuntu?
[14:57] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, a lot. Packaging, development, documentation, translation. blah blah blah
[14:57] <shrinivasan> hmmm
[14:57] <shrinivasan> right
[14:57] <shrinivasan> will check for them too
[14:58] <shrinivasan> i am new to c/c++
[14:58] <shrinivasan> but have some experience in python
[14:58] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, good:)
[14:58] <shrinivasan> will check for any python dev options
[14:58] <shrinivasan> I see the kubuntu installer has no images 
[14:58] <smartboyhw> I think we can get somebody to mentor you in development, probably Riddell or apachelogger (I'm no coder, just a packager and tester)
[14:58] <shrinivasan> of relevant topics
[14:59] <shrinivasan> where ubntu installer has
[14:59] <shrinivasan> is it by plan ?
[14:59] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, why do we have no images?
[14:59] <shrinivasan> in ubuntu installer,, it will show the big images of
[14:59] <shrinivasan> libreoffice
[14:59] <shrinivasan> browswer
[14:59] <shrinivasan> audio
[14:59] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, we do have a slideshow
[14:59] <shrinivasan> internet
[14:59] <shrinivasan> etc
[14:59] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, we have that
[14:59] <shrinivasan> but kubuntu installer
[15:00] <smartboyhw> I don't think we want them too complicated, so our graphics are limited;P
[15:00] <shrinivasan> is not having those kind of nice images
[15:00] <shrinivasan> :-)
[15:00] <shrinivasan> packaging
[15:00] <shrinivasan> smartboyhw: what do have to know to do that?
[15:01] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, well, you learn it over time.
[15:01] <smartboyhw> I, for one, learn it over time
[15:01] <shrinivasan> ya
[15:01] <smartboyhw> From Jan till now I think
[15:01] <shrinivasan> thats is the way
[15:01] <shrinivasan> awesome
[15:02] <shrinivasan> can we package python based applications too?
[15:02] <smartboyhw> shrinivasan, I do suggest you to have a read of Debian New Maintainer's guide and Ubuntu Packaging Guide. And of course, you can package Python-based applications.
[15:02] <smartboyhw> KDE packages are less Python-centric though
[15:02] <shrinivasan> sure
[15:02] <shrinivasan> will read them too
[15:15] <shrinivasan> thanks for the guidance smartboyhw
[15:19] <ScottK> yofel: No need to repack to get rid of an upstream debian dir.  In source format 3 they are ignored.
[15:19] <smartboyhw> ScottK, ooh, interesting
[15:22] <smartboyhw> Damn, upstream now released a 0.98 just for the deletion of the debian/ folder-.-
[15:24] <smartboyhw> Well. that's good at least, they follow Debian instructions:P
[15:24] <smartboyhw> (And they still keep a version with the debian/ folder in another branch. Good practice.)
[15:28] <smartboyhw> ScottK, yofel: I presume that a package should NOT install things into lib64 right?
[15:28] <smartboyhw> usr/lib64 I mean
[15:34] <smartboyhw> Well, no it seems
[15:37]  * smartboyhw wonders how to do it with qmake
[15:54] <smartboyhw> damn, qmake is much hell difficult to work on then Cmake or autoreconf
[16:02] <Riddell> welcome along shrinivasan 
[16:53] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1222133] Kwin regression slipped in KDE 4.11.1 - Taskbar minimize/maximize @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1222133 (by Sergio Callegari)
[17:28] <ScottK> I've just uploaded what I hope is a fixed pykde4 to my PPA (kitterman).  Once it builds, assuming it does, would someone on saucy please check and see if the pykde related badness we've been seeing is resolved.
[17:28] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[19:00] <ScottK> Meh.  FTBFS. Nevermind.
[22:05] <Noskcaj> Can someone make kde-workspace and kubrick rebuild on amd64?
[22:06] <yofel> why kde-workspace?
[22:10] <Noskcaj> yofel, The builld crashed
[22:10] <Noskcaj> *buildd
[22:11] <yofel> bah
[22:12] <yofel> Noskcaj: retried
[22:12] <Noskcaj> thanks
[23:49] <shadeslayer> yofel: you didn't upload 4.11.1 for precise?