[02:06] apachelogger: Did you see my post on Trello? [05:21] shadeslayer: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-September/001714.html [06:03] Is plasma active 4 available for 13.10 or 13.04? [06:10] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/releases/ [06:10] we're only in beta 1 for 13.10 [06:10] so there is no 'release' [06:14] valorie: I am aware, but I was referring to the version of plasma active in the 13.10 repos or ppa for 13.04 [06:15] I can only tell ya what I know, which is what i found [06:20] ok 😊 [07:12] Good morning. === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [10:12] Hello. A regression has sneaked in to kde-runtime 4.11.1. There is a patch available. http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=117331 [10:12] Odur, has it been merged into upstream? [10:12] * smartboyhw is now more wary of patches:P [10:13] Odur, has the patch been merged upstream? [10:13] smartboyhw: Will be official in 4.11.2 [10:13] Odur, OK, what's the patch name? [10:13] a moment [10:13] https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-runtime/repository/revisions/be1a5d484c70f4f6a383150810afbfbb367db2ac [10:14] Odur, thank you:) [10:14] you're welcome :) [10:14] ^ Nobody have objections pulling the patch in? [10:15] It's annoying to have to double-click in the task manager :) [10:20] Riddell, yofel shadeslayer: You OK pulling the patch in? I want a prior approval [10:22] smartboyhw: ack [10:22] yofel, thanks:) [10:22] I have to run though, so won't upload [10:23] yofel, sure [10:32] Riddell, shadeslayer : Patch in the ~kubuntu-packagers kde-runtime branch, waiting for upload [10:32] smartboyhw: Good work :) [10:32] Odur, thank you:) [10:33] BTW: Time to investigate where the hell did solid/control/networkmanagement.cpp gone in 4.11-.- [10:33] It's breaking plasma builds-.- [10:33] *Plasma Active [10:35] i've noticed with the ppa updates today task manager seems to require you to double click on an application to switch/minimize it [10:35] Riddell, you'd better restart the kde-workspace build in 4.11.1 [10:35] is this a bug? [10:35] Kalidarn, yeah, we're fixing [10:35] Will push a fix very soon [10:35] ah kay :) [10:36] Hmm, solid/control/networkmanagement isn't in list-missing of kde-workspace -.- === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.1 saucy/archive raring/backports 4.11.0 precise/ninjas | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support | 13.10 Beta 1 released [10:46] Kalidarn, Odur: Fix uploading for raring [10:46] For Saucy, I need somebody to upload it for me [10:47] smartboyhw: Wonderful. Thank you [10:48] I think I'll stay at this channel :) [10:48] Odur, great:) [10:49] kubotu: newversion digikam 3.4.0 [10:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1222115 [10:49] ^ Sigh, need to file an FFe later:( === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.1 saucy/archive raring/backports precise/backports | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support | 13.10 Beta 1 released [11:03] yay smartboyhw [11:33] 'Morning all [11:50] kubotu: newpackage kqoauth 0.97 [11:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1222128 [11:50] (We will want it for Digikam) [12:11] smartboyhw: solid networkmanagement headers are in networkmanagement now, and not shipped [12:11] you'll have to get those through binary NEW [12:12] it was removed from kde-workspace in 4.11 and copied into the NM applet as that was the only user [12:13] ScottK: awesome ! [12:13] smartboyhw: btw. I already made a todo bug for digikam yesterday........ [12:16] * yofel looks at kde-runtime [12:26] yofel, -.- [12:26] yofel, binary NEW? [12:27] if you need those make a new file called networkmanagement-dev or plasma-widget-networkmanagement-dev and put them there [12:27] yofel, BTW, if a software has a debian/ folder itself, what TODO if I want to package it? [12:27] you might need an FFe for that [12:27] * smartboyhw hates FFe(s) -.-:P [12:28] you could put it into the PA4 FFE maybe as that's why you need it [12:29] hm, if it already has a debian folder in the upstream source then I would delete that and repack the source [12:39] * yofel gone again [12:43] hiho [13:07] smartboyhw: The new kde-runtime works perfectly [13:08] updating. [13:17] Odur, great:) [13:24] Better upload digiKam without kQOAuth, will wait until upstream removes the debian dir. [13:56] Hmm, why do I always get 404 in pbuilder-dist -.- [13:56] (And that's only for SOME packages, not all) [14:42] hello all [14:42] i need some guide on how to test the kubuntu saucy [14:42] Hello shrinivasan [14:43] shrinivasan, a guide? [14:43] i am running testdrive-gtk [14:43] and downloading it [14:43] yes [14:43] smartboyhw: hi [14:43] what to test [14:43] and how to [14:43] manually or automated? [14:43] shrinivasan, it's manual. [14:43] smartboyhw: do we have any tracker/wiki to document the test cases and results? [14:44] shrinivasan, iso.qa.ubuntu.com [14:44] checking it [14:46] what should we test? [14:47] daily/alpha/beta? [14:47] shrinivasan, daily [14:47] Alpha 1 and Alpha 2 and Beta 1 are released:P [14:47] nice [14:47] ok [14:48] hope all the tests were run against alpha1,2 and beta1 [14:48] do we need to run the tests again for daily? [14:48] shrinivasan, well, I don't think anyone will have time to run the tests *daily* [14:48] so? [14:49] Daily images will be produced every day, yes, but don't test it everyday [14:49] shrinivasan, normally, when we really call for testing is when we are about to release [14:49] o [14:49] h [14:49] so we are yet to receive this call. right? [14:49] found http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/270/builds/53013/testcases [14:50] are these only the test cases? [14:50] shadeslayer, yes, we will call before the release of Beta 2. And yes, these are the testcases [14:52] great [14:52] will do the testing [14:52] anyhow, the testdrive is downloading the daily pack [14:53] shrinivasan, sure [14:53] hope it wont download the entire stuff next time, when beta 2 released [14:53] shrinivasan, it won't. [14:53] It uses a tool called zsync [14:53] Which syncs the contents of the ISO instead of downloading it in full. [14:56] super [14:57] what are the other ways we can contribute to kubuntu? [14:57] shrinivasan, a lot. Packaging, development, documentation, translation. blah blah blah [14:57] hmmm [14:57] right [14:57] will check for them too [14:58] i am new to c/c++ [14:58] but have some experience in python [14:58] shrinivasan, good:) [14:58] will check for any python dev options [14:58] I see the kubuntu installer has no images [14:58] I think we can get somebody to mentor you in development, probably Riddell or apachelogger (I'm no coder, just a packager and tester) [14:58] of relevant topics [14:59] where ubntu installer has [14:59] is it by plan ? [14:59] shrinivasan, why do we have no images? [14:59] in ubuntu installer,, it will show the big images of [14:59] libreoffice [14:59] browswer [14:59] audio [14:59] shrinivasan, we do have a slideshow [14:59] internet [14:59] etc [14:59] shrinivasan, we have that [14:59] but kubuntu installer [15:00] I don't think we want them too complicated, so our graphics are limited;P [15:00] is not having those kind of nice images [15:00] :-) [15:00] packaging [15:00] smartboyhw: what do have to know to do that? [15:01] shrinivasan, well, you learn it over time. [15:01] I, for one, learn it over time [15:01] ya [15:01] From Jan till now I think [15:01] thats is the way [15:01] awesome [15:02] can we package python based applications too? [15:02] shrinivasan, I do suggest you to have a read of Debian New Maintainer's guide and Ubuntu Packaging Guide. And of course, you can package Python-based applications. [15:02] KDE packages are less Python-centric though [15:02] sure [15:02] will read them too [15:15] thanks for the guidance smartboyhw [15:19] yofel: No need to repack to get rid of an upstream debian dir. In source format 3 they are ignored. [15:19] ScottK, ooh, interesting [15:22] Damn, upstream now released a 0.98 just for the deletion of the debian/ folder-.- [15:24] Well. that's good at least, they follow Debian instructions:P [15:24] (And they still keep a version with the debian/ folder in another branch. Good practice.) [15:28] ScottK, yofel: I presume that a package should NOT install things into lib64 right? [15:28] usr/lib64 I mean [15:34] Well, no it seems [15:37] * smartboyhw wonders how to do it with qmake [15:54] damn, qmake is much hell difficult to work on then Cmake or autoreconf [16:02] welcome along shrinivasan [16:53] ::workspace-bugs:: [1222133] Kwin regression slipped in KDE 4.11.1 - Taskbar minimize/maximize @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1222133 (by Sergio Callegari) [17:28] I've just uploaded what I hope is a fixed pykde4 to my PPA (kitterman). Once it builds, assuming it does, would someone on saucy please check and see if the pykde related badness we've been seeing is resolved. [17:28] Riddell: ^^^ [19:00] Meh. FTBFS. Nevermind. [22:05] Can someone make kde-workspace and kubrick rebuild on amd64? [22:06] why kde-workspace? [22:10] yofel, The builld crashed [22:10] *buildd [22:11] bah [22:12] Noskcaj: retried [22:12] thanks [23:49] yofel: you didn't upload 4.11.1 for precise?