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Sempercheers john_john00:00
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SemperI am right in thinking that only root and admin can read those files it seems.00:00
smaudetCADRE: ok its just a straight up exectuable00:00
smaudetCADRE: open a terminal00:01
CADREGot one open now00:01
SemperI just haven't needed to tinker with folder and file perms like that before.00:01
smaudetCADRE: navigate to the directory where it (true crypt) was extracted00:01
CADREThat's what, cd /Home?00:01
smaudetand run ./truecrypt-7.1a-setup-x6400:01
Sempersmaudet, they just packaging the entire program now?00:01
Semperdayum00:01
smaudetSemper: its got a UI installer00:01
CADREI am a scrub, you see, when it comes to the terminal00:01
Semperoh lawdy00:02
Semperit has been a while since I installed then00:02
Semperalso, arch linux, what you gonna do...00:02
smaudetSemper: not a very nice one, they're using X to keep the dependencies down00:02
SemperCADRE, what do you need truecrypt for?00:02
Semperdropbox?00:02
smaudetSemper: better question, what wouldn't you need TC for00:02
CADREI'M EDWARD SNOWDEN00:03
SemperWell, I use encrypted LUKS00:03
smaudetPsh00:03
CADRENo but for real it's just00:03
Semperand encfs for dropbox00:03
Semperencfs is far superior for cloud storage00:03
CADREBuilding smart habits00:03
CADRENothing special00:03
smaudetSemper: right, but LUKS is not cross platform00:03
CADREAnyhow what's the cd command to navigate to folders again...00:03
SemperWell that's not really relevant for a full filesystem encryption though smaudet00:03
Semper:P00:04
CADREOh there we go00:04
smaudetSemper: he's already running Ubuntu, he probably doesn't want to run full file system encryption00:04
smaudetAnyways you already get home directory encryption as an option in Ubuntu00:04
SemperTrue enough I was just saying what I use ;P00:04
smaudetAt least last time I installed00:04
Semperyes00:05
Semperthey also offer full LVM LUKS with ubuntu now too00:05
Rookie407hello all00:05
smaudetSemper: sure, I don't care what/whether you use whatever, you were asking him as if there was a reason not to.00:05
SemperCADRE I suggest encfs for any cloud storage00:05
* smaudet is /done with discussion00:05
Rookie407wondering if someone could shed some light on getting graphics drivers to work i seem to have gotten into a loop00:06
hayerIs there any application that can show stats(temp, load, mem usage, etc) on a website for remote servers?00:06
Semperit will save absolute heaps of bandwidth compared to truecrypt00:06
Semperhuh?00:06
SemperI said what for, not if there was a reason not to?00:06
smaudetSemper: it was implied, anyways I'm not interested, I have nothing against luks00:06
smaudet:)00:06
CADREWell I'm in the /home folder now00:06
smaudetMoving on00:06
Rookie407$ sudo dpkg -i nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx_173.14.37-1_i386.deb00:06
Rookie407(Reading database ... 208106 files and directories currently installed.)00:06
Rookie407Preparing to replace nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx 173.14.37-1 (using nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx_173.14.37-1_i386.deb) ...00:06
Rookie407Unpacking replacement nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx ...00:06
Rookie407dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx:00:06
FloodBot1Rookie407: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:06
Rookie407 nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx depends on nvidia-alternative-legacy-173xx; however:00:06
CADRESo what's the command to run this file again00:07
SemperRookie407, use pastebin00:07
smaudet!pastebin | ubottu00:07
ubottusmaudet: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:07
smaudet!pastebin | Rookie40700:07
ubottuRookie407: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:07
SemperI implied if there was a reason not to what? I don't follow?00:07
smaudetSemper: great, there's nothing to discuss then00:08
smaudetdun wurry about it :)00:08
Rookie407anywho since the damage is already done can anyone take a look at the multi line post and help me out00:08
smaudetRookie407: pastebinit and re-ask00:08
SemperIt got cut off before the important part ;)00:09
veryhappyhey guys, someone know a way to make zsh automatically launch its suggestions while typing like in an ide for programming?00:09
ATC243750496hi00:09
veryhappylet's say auto content assist for zsh00:09
smaudetveryhappy: its called tab?00:10
ATC243750496why the background of nautilus in ubuntu in not white in default00:10
smaudetveryhappy: if you want a drop down menu, sorry I don't know if that exists00:10
veryhappysmaudet: not tab, AUTO complete00:10
ATC243750496can i change it to another color?00:10
smaudetveryhappy: don't know if it exists, how would you implement that if you wrote it?00:11
Rookie407http://pastebin.com/fBEt5dsi00:11
veryhappysmaudet: read properly dude, a simple way to make the suggestions that i already become simply show up automatically, nothing more.00:11
veryhappysorry i mean get00:11
smaudetveryhappy: be civil 'dude'00:11
veryhappysmaudet :D00:11
smaudetveryhappy: and read properly, I asked you a question00:12
Mark-Potterbye00:12
Rookie407anyone00:12
ATC243750496why the background of nautilus in ubuntu in not white in default00:13
whiptailhmm00:13
ATC243750496i am in fedora00:13
ATC243750496and installed nautilus00:13
veryhappysmaudet: i would make autocompletion impelement as a function that auto completes as soon as the command fits unique00:13
Semperthat pastebin loading for everyone?00:13
ATC243750496it's background color is white looked ugly00:13
Semperoh its just spr slow00:13
ATC243750496how can i change it00:13
SemperRookie407, try apt-get install -f00:13
Sempersudo on the front00:14
varunendraATC243750496, didn't you 'like' the same thing in Ubuntu? And did you try #fedora ?00:14
Rookie407http://pastebin.com/fBEt5dsi can anyone help me figure this out please im sooo new to ubuntu00:15
smaudetveryhappy: ok, so now, go write that :) Again, I don't know of any program that does it. If you find one or write one, let me know.00:15
Rookie407been at this for 4 days now00:15
SemperRookie407, try apt-get install -f00:15
Sempersudo on the front00:15
veryhappysmaudet: ok00:15
veryhappysmaudet but what way could i use to distribute it00:16
Semperveryhappy, so you want what tab does already?00:16
Semperexcept it to auto whack tab after each keystroke00:16
Rookie407ok that removed two files00:16
smaudetSemper: no, tab pulls up a list of suggestions00:16
Sempertrue that00:16
HexagoniteHow do you stop Ubuntu from logging you out when you suspend it for a long time?00:16
Semperthough I was thinking on unique it fills00:16
veryhappySemper: well, in eclipse i get with every type suggestions00:16
smaudetSemper: he wants it only to occur when the command is unique withing a given path00:16
sarnoldhey, does this look familiar to anyone? "dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: files list file for package `humanity-icon-theme' contains empty filename" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6072727/00:16
smaudetwithin*00:16
Semperinteresting, I have no idea.00:16
SemperRookie407, what was the output of that?00:17
varunendraHexagonite, log out or just Lock Screen?00:17
veryhappyok so you guys, my idea was perhaps to make suggestions show up on each keystroke until a command is unique enough to auto complete00:17
smaudetveryhappy: github, launchpad, submit it to the debian developers, add it to your favorate Term Emu as a plugin00:17
Sempersarnold, check if the file download isn't corrupt00:17
veryhappyguess that would save lots of time dont you think00:17
Hexagonitevarunendra: It fully logs you out, meaning, you're in LightDM after stopping the suspension00:17
veryhappyok00:17
smaudetveryhappy: or you could write a bash script and try to submit it to the ubuntu community00:18
smaudet!dev | veryhappy00:18
ubottuveryhappy: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment00:18
Semperor debian ;)00:18
veryhappythank you guys, smaudet: sorry for the "dude" :D00:18
sarnoldSemper: I deleted all my debs and lists after getting it once, that's the second time..00:18
Rookie407Semper, it removed nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx and nvidia-alternatives00:18
veryhappytake care00:18
Sempercheck if the md5 matches00:18
varunendraHexagonite, you mean all your open programs are closed when you log back in? That's not normal.00:18
Semperhuh, Rookie407 I wouldn't have expected that00:18
Sempertry to re install it from the start again00:19
Hexagonitevarunendra: it's not? :S00:19
Rookie407got alternatives to install00:19
smaudetveryhappy, np00:19
Hexagonitevarunendra: happens only when using 12.0400:19
sarnoldHexagonite: I suspend for days at a go without issue -- is your machine plugged in while suspended? you've only got a few days before the battery will be dead00:19
sarnoldHexagonite: battery is required to keep the memory refreshed when you suspend to ram00:20
varunendraHexagonite, doesn't happen here. Or maybe I never tried that long enough. But that obviously would be an undesired behaviour. I'm on 12.04 too. (Didn't update for months though)00:20
Rookie407Semper, cant get the nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx to install now gives me 'dpkg: error processing nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx_173.14.37-1_i386.deb (--install): installing nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx would break nvidia-alternative-legacy-173xx, and deconfiguration is not permitted (--auto-deconfigure might help)00:20
Hexagonitesarnold: it's fully charged when I suspend it, one time, I came back to see it half charged00:20
dtcrshrI want to install the nvidia experimental drivers, which arent appearing on my adittional drivers. HOw do I add them to the repos?00:20
Sempertry deconfigure as it said00:20
Semperif that doesnt work00:20
Semperpurge the entire package and re install00:20
Rookie407not sure how to do that only been on linux for a week00:21
Rookie4074 days spent trying to get these drivers to work right00:21
Rookie407atm i have no unity00:21
Semperif you're in ubuntu can you not get the nvidia drivers from the restricted packages?00:21
SemperI'm guessing it wants00:22
Rookie407no i have an old card which requires legacy drivers00:22
varunendraHexagonite, how much RAM and swap do you have? And Ubuntu 32 bit or 64?00:22
Semperapt-get  --auto-deconfigure00:22
Rookie407i downloaded them from synaptic00:22
Semperapt-get install --auto-deconfigure00:22
Rookie407command line option not understood00:23
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Hexagonitevarunendra: 1.7GB (256MB used by graphics); swap is 4GB, I think; 64-bit00:23
Semperare you installing alternative first?00:23
Rookie407its already installed00:23
varunendraThat's good enough, Hexagonite :|00:23
Rookie407trying to isntall the settings now00:23
subcoolcould i have a mini amount of help. My server has been acting up and freezing. WHich log file do i view to see the error that occured00:24
l9subcool start with dmesg00:25
subcool19 doesnt dmesg clear during restart00:25
sarnoldSemper: ha, looks like local disk corruption, /var/lib/dpkg/info/humanity-icon-theme.list is blown to pieces: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6072747/00:26
smaudetRookie407 - are you comfortable with VT?00:26
Sempersounds to me like this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=68875400:26
ubottuDebian bug 688754 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-173xx "Add alternatives for nvidia-settings and nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx" [Wishlist,Fixed]00:26
Rookie407vt?00:26
smaudetYou're going to probably have to uninstall the old version and re-install the newer one00:26
varunendrasubcool, the older messages are stored in dmesg.0, dmesg.1, syslog.1 etc.00:26
smaudetIf you do that you're going to lose your graphical X session00:26
Rookie407you mean TV (teamviewer)00:26
smaudeti.e. no pretty buttons00:26
Sempersarnold, thought it might be00:26
smaudetVT = Virtual Terminal00:26
smaudetCtrl+Alt+F100:26
Rookie407ummm00:26
Rookie407oh yeah00:27
Rookie407kinda00:27
SemperCtrl + alt+ F7 takes you back to GUI00:27
smaudetis this the same computer you're using to install the drivers?00:27
Rookie407yes00:27
smaudetI'd get weechat before you take the plunge00:27
smaudetlearn how to get onto irc with it00:27
ntzrmtthihu777Semper: yep, and you can have more than one gui running at once. f7-12, if I remember right00:27
Semperor use a second PC00:27
Semperonly for the bold ntzrmtthihu77700:28
Rookie407i can get on irc via my phone00:28
smaudetThen you can put weechat in Ctrl+Alt+F2, work in Ctrl+Alt+F100:28
ntzrmtthihu777Semper: I run arch :P00:28
Semperas do I ;)00:28
usr13Rookie407: Very limited, (using phone).00:28
ntzrmtthihu777:D00:28
smaudetRookie407: yeah but if you have output you don't want to input it line by line00:28
Rookie407true00:28
ntzrmtthihu777Rookie407: irssi is frikken great for irc :P00:28
smaudetRookie407: you can push to pastebin using pastebinit00:28
smaudetecho "my paste" | pastebinit00:28
usr13Rookie407: ntzrmtthihu777 is correct about irssi.00:29
ntzrmtthihu777smaudet: or to sprunge with curl :P00:29
smaudetsudo apt-get install | pastebinit00:29
ntzrmtthihu777usr13: it's saved my buns many times, like when I couldn't get a graphical session to start I used it in a tty to get help, lol.00:29
smaudetntzrmtthihu777, sure, weechat is just what I know00:29
ntzrmtthihu777usr13: lynx has done the same, googling from the cli :P00:30
smaudetntzrmtthihu777: i thought irssi was gui anyways? Don't use it much, w/e00:30
Rookie407downloading pastebinit00:30
usr13ntzrmtthihu777: Oh yea, there is a site I use lynx for every morning.00:30
sarnoldSemper: hrm, any idea how to re-generate that .list file? I can't find anything related-looking in another deb I've got..00:31
ntzrmtthihu777smaudet: nope. It runs in a terminal, now you can have a terminal in normal gui, but you can also use it in one of the non-graphical consoles (ctrl+alt+f1-6)00:31
Rookie407ok got irssi now too00:31
SemperFraid I have no idea.00:31
sarnoldSemper: okay, thanks00:31
Sempersmaudet, it sounds like Rookie407 is hitting this ttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=68875400:31
Semperbut the version should be patched00:31
Rookie407totally have Semper but im sooo close to having the drivers working i can taste it00:32
usr13Rookie407: When you get some spare time, http://irssi.org/documentation00:32
subcoolvarunendra, i viewed the dmesg.0 - and searched for "error" - not really sure if the results would do it. I am suspecting one of my harddrives as being the reason for the consistant freeze/crashse.. but- linux is soo weird sometimes..00:32
smaudetSemper: hm00:32
litropyWhat's the best circuit design program for linux?00:32
smaudetRookie407: before you uninstall the old nvidia package, I'd recommend adding a force install option00:32
Sempersarnold, if you DL'd the deb file00:32
Rookie407just gotta get the stupid nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx to install and i think i may have it00:33
smaudetsudo aptget -f install mypkg.deb00:33
Sempertry redownloading it if the md5 doesnt match theirs00:33
Semperif their md5 is the same as the one computed for your download, they've mangled their file00:33
Rookie407apt-get not dpkg?00:33
Rookie407smaudet,00:33
smaudetRookie407: err sorry yeah dpkg00:33
smaudetRookie407: if you were using apt-get then I'd suggest the -f option00:34
sarnoldSemper: dpkg appears to generate the file at install time, and dpkg is completely useless with this busted file. I _think_ I'll be able to generate the .list from the .md5sums file00:34
varunendrasubcool, Linux is more verbose in my opinion, sometimes it does become confusing though ;) Oh, and syslog is more verbose than dmesg, gives more hints that may not be covered by dmesg.00:34
Rookie407smaudet, it deff did something i got a big output00:35
SemperI meant the whole deb sarnold00:35
Semperwhat is it?00:35
Rookie407sec ill pastebin it for ya00:35
Semperand where'd it come from?00:35
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Rookie407not having unity takes forever to do things00:35
SemperDevs make mistakes sometimes, they might have pushed a broken file.00:36
usr13Rookie407: What things?00:36
SemperRookie407, eurgh unity00:36
subcoolvarunendra, yeah.. i do agree. it is more verbose. im just use to finding the error, and i suppose they are just a bit more difficult which is frustrating. And it always happens when im not home. IM use to my Freenas and Vbox having HD issues, and causing the issues, but now im not really sure what it is. I know it is still related to my freenas and vbox, but- since ih ave to reboot to recover, i dont know where to begin to lo00:36
subcoolcate the issues.00:36
* Semper forms a cross symbol with fingers.00:36
smaudetRookie: quite, I've had to re-suscitate Ubuntu from VT before00:36
smaudetRookie: it was 'fun', to say the least00:36
smaudetWhy I stopped installing non LTS00:37
Rookie407http://pastebin.com/y6MmWFDB00:37
D-Chymera1Hi guys, I know this is no photography channel, but I would say this is more of a technical issue. I have a model who would like to consent to granting me the rights to only a subset of the pictures from our shoot (following no particularly evident criterion) - would it be feasible to identify the images to which I then do own the rights via checksums? if so, can I use Git to simply compute the checksum?00:37
smaudetAlthough to be fair it died 'cause i was updating my kernel to an unsupported version00:37
sarnoldSemper: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/h/humanity-icon-theme/humanity-icon-theme_0.6.1_all.deb00:37
SemperD-Chymera1, you can just use md5sum locally00:37
Semperfor example, if you are in the directory00:38
Rookie407usr13, anything im having to constantly open and close everything via terminal cuz i have no alt+tab functionality no unity no nothing but terminal cant even drag to move things or else everything freezes till i reboot00:38
smaudetD-Chymeral: no00:38
Sempermd5sum * >> mylistofmd5hashes.txt00:38
smaudetD-Chymeral: you need to use a more advanced DSP algorithm00:38
Semperas to owning the rights by checksum00:38
smaudetD-Chymeral: too easy to change a single pixel00:38
Semperno idea00:38
smaudetThen the checksum goes out the door00:38
Rookie407yall catch that pastebin?00:39
Jagst3r15any place to get my idea heard?00:39
Semperlike smaudet says, you need to have something that does image recog really00:39
Jagst3r15I know they got rid of brainstorm00:39
smaudetNo, no image recog00:39
smaudetJust some algorithm for image 'signature'00:39
jribD-Chymera1: that seems like a good solution, though I would suggest sha256 instead00:39
smaudetBy which I mean Facial Recognition isn't going to help you here.00:39
Semperjrib, the problem is that the hash will change completely if you even cropped the image00:40
jribSemper: so?00:40
Semperhe still owns the rights to a cropped image00:40
aem`I need assistance with an ubuntu install on a blank hdd....00:40
usr13Rookie407: Yea, line 1000:40
sarnoldSemper: ha! it was easier than I thought -- I moved /var/lib/dpkg/info/humanity-icon-theme.list out of the way and then was able to use dpkg -i to install the .deb right on top of the old one, no trouble. Thanks mate. :)00:40
jribSemper: he just has to show how he obtained the cropped image from the old one00:40
varunendrasubcool, is the SMART status good on the drives? fsck ?00:40
Sempernow what if I add a filter00:40
Semperor 5 filters00:41
aem`can anybody help?00:41
Semperin a row00:41
usr13Rookie407:  What does lspci say about your video card?  lspci |grep VGA00:41
sarnoldD-Chymera1: what problem are you trying to solve with the checksums?00:41
jribSemper: same thing00:41
Semperadd some text00:41
Semperit becomes impossible for him to compute the correct hash00:41
sarnoldD-Chymera1: if you just delete the files the model doesn't want you to use, hooray. problem solved. right?00:41
Semperbecause he doesnt know what they changed00:41
aem`can somebody assist me please00:41
D-Chymera1jrib: why that? also why not sha1sum?00:41
subcoolvarunendra, the SMART status on my PATA drive is acting up.00:41
jribSemper: any decent image editor will save the history.  He's saving the hash of the original and the steps used to obtain new from original00:41
Rookie40700:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)00:41
Rookie40703:02.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1)00:41
aem`ffffs00:41
sarnoldaem`: irc works best if you can ask specific questions.00:41
subcoolvarunendra, but- that wouldnt cause it to freeze00:41
jribD-Chymera1: some people run away from md5sum nowadays because people can generate collisions for it00:42
aem`i did sarnold lol00:42
usr13Rookie407: it's a laptop?00:42
Rookie407desk00:42
aem`i asked how to properly install ubuntu in a blank hdd00:42
aem`one hdd is for win700:42
Semperjrib, you don't have the history00:42
Sempersomeone stole your image00:42
aem`other has 2 partitions00:42
sarnoldaem`: ah, it was before I joined then. :)00:42
Semperand did "stuff" to it00:42
aem`lol00:42
aem`its k00:42
varunendrasubcool, why wouldn't it? Maybe there are bad clusters expanding to areas they shouldn't?00:42
aem`i just need some help00:42
Semperthen you cannot probe using hashes that it is yours00:42
aem`it won't work properly00:42
aem`only works if i partion my main hdd which i dont want00:43
smaudetD-Chymera1: not a question of security of the hash algorithm, in fact the better the checksum, the worse suited it is to catching 'similar' photos00:43
jribSemper: are you sure that's D-Chymera1's intent with the checksums?  I believe he just wants to have a record of the images that the model consented to00:43
Semperindeed00:43
smaudetmd5, at least, you can spoof a similar image, thanks to its insecurity00:43
Semperwell yes it does depend on exactly what he wants00:43
Rookie407usr13, not sure why it would break it if it needs nvidia-alternatives to work00:43
sarnoldaem`: you may need to change the hard drive boot order in your BIOS to put the Ubuntu disk in a higher priority -- that way you can be prompted to boot windows or linux without needing to modify your windows disk00:43
usr13Rookie407: So the intel is onboard?00:44
subcoolvarunendra, i have run the disk utility on the drives, they appear to be fine.00:44
smaudetjrib: generally if someone wants to 'identify' an image, they want to identify it and all modifications if it00:44
Rookie407yes00:44
smaudetIf they don't, then, yeah, md5'd be fine00:44
jribSemper: are you sure that's D-Chymera1's intent with the checksums?  I believe he just wants to have a record of the images that the model consented to.  Only D-Chymera1 can clarify ;)00:44
usr13Rookie407: 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu?00:44
aem`sarnold i was actally hoping i could just make a 10 second window where you have choice via win700:44
SemperWell if that's the case00:44
Semperwhy do you need md5 at all?00:44
aem`that's how i did it in the past00:44
Semperwhat purpose does it serve?00:44
Rookie40732bit00:45
jribSemper: well say he wants the model to sign a contract.00:45
Semperyou have the image already00:45
smaudetSemper: just as a way of keeping stuff in a db00:45
sarnoldaem`: you want to use the windows 7 bootloader instead?00:45
Rookie407ubuntu 13.04 RR00:45
D-Chymera1sarnold: I archive all of my shots - a) you never know b)why destroy information?00:45
aem`yes sarnold00:45
sarnoldD-Chymera1: aha :)00:45
smaudetSemper: md5 the images, and keep an indexed db of them00:45
Semperif it is for that then yeah00:45
D-Chymera1jrib: that was my intentt, yes00:45
Semperso you can lookup the ones you can use easily00:45
Semperfair enough00:45
aem`essentially a dual boot for win7 and ubuntu from win7 boot loader...00:45
smaudetRookie407: sorry, looking for your paste00:45
Semperi'd do what I said00:46
Sempermd5sum * >> mylistofmd5hashes.txt00:46
D-Chymera1why sha256sum  and not sha1sum00:46
D-Chymera1?00:46
varunendrasubcool, well if SMART is 'acting up', there is a possible culprit. If no other hints are found, why not try changing the drive?00:46
Ben64aem`: grub would work easier00:46
aem`Ben64 tbh i don't like grub00:46
Rookie407smaudet, http://pastebin.com/y6MmWFDB00:46
aem`unless its impossible without grub00:46
varunendrasubcool, if there are I/O errors, I think they should get logged in syslog.00:47
sarnoldaem`: this looks promising: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/use-the-windows-bootloader-to-dual-boot-windows-vista-and-ubuntu.html00:47
SemperD-Chymera1, usually it is to avoid collisions as MD5 can easily manipulated to give the same hash for different things00:47
Ben64aem`: how often do you hang out in the bootloader that it even matters which it is?00:47
Semperhowever I don't think that is required in this case00:47
subcoolvarunendra, i have been moving drives. i have had two drives actually fail. so ive been moving files around. but now- im a bit baffled00:47
sarnoldaem`: a user on askubuntu.com thought it was the best solution, http://askubuntu.com/a/79967/3381200:47
smaudetRookie407: that just looks like a data dump00:47
Semperspoofing an image hash doesn't even make sense in this case00:47
SemperI suppose that this would work too00:48
Sempermd5sum * >> *.txt00:48
sarnoldeeeek, not *.txt00:48
Semperthe idea of it, perhaps not programmatically00:48
Semperis it $1?00:48
varunendrasubcool, how often the crash happens? Sorry I didn't follow your question from beginning.00:48
smaudetRookie407: I don't think there is a 'force' option for dpkg, go ahead and run the sudo apt-get remove badnvidiapackage && sudo dpkg -i mynvidiapkg.deb00:48
SemperI cannot remember off the top of my head00:48
Semperbut you know what I mean00:48
smaudetAnd run it in a VT100:49
sarnoldif you have a single file ending with .txt in the name, it'll have the md5sums appended..00:49
jribD-Chymera1: that's what I've seen used in documents. I believe SHA-1 is no longer recommended00:49
Rookie407E: Unable to locate package badnvidiapackage00:49
subcoolvarunendra, - if i leave the computer running long enough- it happens daily.00:49
Semperjrib, pretty sure it isnt relevant here00:49
Semperif they some how made a collision it wouldn't be legible00:50
Guest28197should use SHA-3 \o/00:50
subcoolvarunendra, it use to be based on my massive filing movement, but now it crashes simply by staying on00:50
smaudetRookie407: :P you have to replace 'badnvidiapackage' with the name of the package that is failing when you try to sudo dpkg -i yournvidiapackage.deb00:50
jribSemper: I agree.  But this way you avoid the issue coming up (it doesn't really cost you anything)00:50
Rookie407haha i knew that00:50
smaudetjrib: sha1 is no longer viable for cryptographically secure purposes00:51
smaudetits still a perfectly valid hash00:51
SemperI don't think it is possible for the issue to come up at all00:51
Semperhence why I think md5 will suffice00:51
Semperor any hash algo00:51
Semperwithin limits ofc00:51
smaudetmd5 is more then adequate for e.g. hash tables00:51
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smaudetin fact md5 is a bit slow and verbose for that purpose, even00:51
Rookie407couldnt find package by regex00:52
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smaudetRookie407: make sure you got the right package00:52
smaudetRookie407: i.e you typed it right00:52
Rookie407i did00:52
Rookie407copy paste XD00:52
sarnoldokay, enough drinking from the firehose :)  thanks Semper for the help. ta!00:52
smaudetdpkg -l 'badnvidiapackage'00:52
jribwell my only concern would be that someone without proper understanding will make the complaint.  And since you don't lose anything, why not just use SHA-2?  But yes, practically, md5 or SHA-1 would work fine.00:52
smaudetdpkg -l badnvidiapackage00:52
jrib(as you said)00:53
smaudetsorry no quotes00:53
smaudetand if that doesn't turn anything up:00:53
smaudetdpkg -l badnvidiapackage*00:53
SemperI say md5 because I can code this quickly00:53
Semperfor file in *.jpeg; do00:53
Semper    md5sum "$file" >> "$file.md5"00:53
Semperdone00:53
Semper:P00:53
FloodBot1Semper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:53
usr13Rookie407: The sofrware from nvidia.com is NVIDIA-Linux-x86-325.15.run00:53
jribSemper: well you have sha256sum too :P00:53
smaudetSemper: s/md5/sha256/g00:53
smaudetnot hard :P00:53
SemperHa, I never used if from terminal before00:54
smaudets/sha256/sha256sum/g00:54
Semperbut you could shove whatever over md5sum00:54
varunendrasubcool, I'd suggest you analyse the whole dmesg.0, syslog.1 immediately after a reboot (after crash). If they don't contain any hint, then maybe the crash is happening too fast to be logged, probably due to a hardware issue.00:54
Rookie407dpkg-query: no packages found matching nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx_173.14.37-1_i386.deb00:54
subcoolvarunendra, thats what i was fearing aswel00:54
subcoolvarunendra, but its hard to say00:54
smaudetD-Chymera1: if you don't care what happens to your images, and you have lots of them, use md5sum00:54
smaudetSemper/jrib are just being pedantic00:54
varunendrasubcool, yes it is, from what we have so far to guess by. :)00:55
smaudetsha256sum is going to take longer ;)00:55
Semperindeed00:55
SemperThough using md5 =/= you don't care about what happens to the images00:55
subcoolvarunendra, im not entirely use to viewing crash information from linux.. would it always be in "error" form.00:55
smaudetRookie407: dpkg -l nvidia-settings-legacy-173*00:55
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D-Chymera1smaudet: what do you mean by "if I don't care what happens to them"?00:56
Semperits just that any work, and the pedantry that otherwise goes with hashing for passwords is not relevant here.00:56
smaudetD-Chymera1: when I was saying earlier about not using md5sum, if you don't care about the hash for the purposes of e.g. catching people using altered versions of your photos00:56
Rookie407same output smaudet00:56
Guest28197using any of the mentioned algorithms for hashing passwords is silly. there's a reason *crypt algorithms exist00:56
smaudetD-Chymera1: its entirely unsuitable for that purpose00:56
Semperas are all hashing methods like md500:56
smaudetD-Chymera1: unless you already found the altered version and just wanted to ensure that it was altered00:57
varunendrasubcool, most often yes, but since it is completely crashing the system, it may not get time to log the final 'Error' line. You may try analysing 'All' the previous versions of these logs, but that would be an uphill task. :(00:57
subcoolvarunendra, not that much, but understanding all of it is hard00:57
smaudetD-Chymera1: md5sum is a 'yes/no' algorithm00:57
subcoolvarunendra, some times a crash isnt very blatten00:57
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smaudetD-Chymera1: you'll need a DSP algorithm like I said before if you want to e.g. find copies of it online00:58
subcoolvarunendra, ill try.. thanks for the help.. ijust wasnt sure which log files to view...00:58
D-Chymera1smaudet: am I supposed to write a crawler that hashes all the images on the internet to find similar ones? :) I will hash raw files (.NEF) I guess md5 coud also not identify a jpg that was processed from those - right?00:58
teenwood32hi !!00:58
varunendrasubcool, my personal method to analyse these issues is to look for suspicious keywords in the logs. Not necessarily errors.00:58
subcoolvarunendra, but im not sure how to compare the times.. and dates00:58
smaudetD-Chymera1: no, you aren't00:58
SemperD-Chymera1, the tl;dr is you cannot really use any hashing algo to prove someone stole the image and edited it. However, if you are building a database to lookup images that you can use from ones you have taken00:58
Semperthen that would work00:58
teenwood32is friday !! is a we happe n  ??00:58
teenwood32:D :D00:58
smaudetBut if you want to find images on the internet, and you don't want to use just Google Image00:59
usr13Rookie407: My advise is to uninstall all nvidia packages and get it from nvidia.com NVIDIA-Linux-x86-325.15.run00:59
smaudetYeah, you'll need to write a crawler00:59
subcoolvarunendra, yea, thgats what im uyse to with window,s but linxu has soo much babble, its sometimes uncohearent.00:59
smaudetAnd run a server, and all the headache that entails ;)00:59
Semperhashing is good for only one thing00:59
Semperdoes this = this00:59
varunendrasubcool, in syslog, the date and time is clearly defined. In dmesg, the number in the large bracket is the time in seconds since the system booted.00:59
Rookie407usr13, thats not the right drivers i need legacy drivers00:59
Rookie407this is the last thing i have to install i got that feeling if i get this installed then everything will work!01:00
varunendra*read defined = given ;)01:00
smaudetRookie407: hmm, try installing your .deb file again then01:00
teenwood32jijij01:00
smaudetpastebin the output, maybe something changed01:00
jribD-Chymera1: hashing is only good for taking your exact image pixel by pixel and mapping it to some number.  If that's not what you want, then hashing isn't what you want01:00
subcoolvarunendra, i wasnt sure what those # Iin dmesg were01:00
chaotixhello...  is there a terminal command for moving up a directory?01:00
subcoolthanks.. im going to serach it now..01:00
teenwood32whats up01:00
jribchaotix: cd ..01:00
usr13Rookie407: Ok01:00
D-Chymera1Semper: smaudet I seem to get different opinions from you two - say I (manually) come across a downsized, edited jpg which I think comes from my raw file - what can I do with (what) hash algos ?01:00
chaotixjrib, thank you01:00
Guest28197D-Chymera1: nothing01:01
chaotixjrib, i was trying without the space01:01
smaudetD-Chymera1: zilch, nothing, nada01:01
D-Chymera1jrib: no, that is what I want - I am exploring some other possibilities people suggested01:01
jribchaotix: some people alias ".." to "cd .."01:01
smaudetD-Chymera1: the md5 algorithm will tell you the two pictures are 'not the same'01:01
varunendrasubcool, now you know :)01:01
subcool"and nowing is half the battle"01:01
SemperD-Chymera1, yep, it will only tell you they are not the same01:02
varunendralol01:02
Rookie407smaudet, http://pastebin.com/xPAKcGFk01:02
usr13Rookie407: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list  #Will show you what nvidia packages you now have.01:02
SemperD-Chymera1, pm me with what you are exactly after.01:02
smaudetRookie407: you could try what the error message suggests, add the --auto-deconfigure option01:03
varunendrasubcool, the real battle for a sysadmin begins when they have to analyse these logs without a proper hint ;)01:03
smaudeti.e. 'sudo dpkg --auto-deconfigure -i nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx_173.14.37-1_i386.deb'01:03
Rookie407smaudet, i tryed that it didnt work01:03
dmbonezi switched from on-board graphics to pcie graphics and lightdm fails?01:03
Rookie407according to the output of ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list the nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx is there01:03
Rookie407even though i keep getting that error why is that01:04
usr13"Rookie407: Errors were encountered while processing: nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx_173.14.37-1_i386.deb"  "installing nvidia-settings-legacy-173xx would break nvidia-alternative-legacy-173xx, and deconfiguration is not permitted (--auto-deconfigure might help)"01:04
Rookie407usr13, that command is not understood01:05
smaudetRookie407: that is not a command01:05
smaudetthat's why ;)01:05
usr13Rookie407: It is not a command, it is the error message from your paste.01:05
usr13Rookie407: Read it.01:06
Rookie407i mean the --auto-deconfigure01:06
Rookie407...01:06
aem`ty guys01:06
smaudetRookie407: pastebin this for me: 'dpkg -l nvidia*'01:06
Nox_404Hi, i need help on SDL framework, someone can help me ?01:07
smaudet!offtopic | Nox_40401:07
ubottuNox_404: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:07
Nox_404smaudet: sorry wrong chan01:08
smaudetNox_404,np01:08
delinquentmeanyone know how to check a USB to see if its in host mode?01:08
usr13Rookie407: dpkg -l nvidia* |pastebinit  #SHow us resulting URL.01:10
Rookie407sorry was outside smokin01:11
Rookie407smaudet, usr13, http://pastebin.com/KqTkU58201:12
Rookie407those results dont make sense01:12
smaudetRookie407: I agree01:13
usr13Rookie407: Uninstall them.01:13
usr13Rookie407: Why not just run   nvidia-common ?01:13
smaudetusr13: no the output of that command is garbage01:13
smaudethe should see something like this:01:13
smaudethttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6072850/01:13
Rookie407=\01:14
Rookie407im just to the point now where imma say forget it all together and go back to winblows01:15
Sempergood god no01:15
Rookie4074 days into it and still no progress01:15
smaudetRookie407: if that command doesn't work there's something seriously wrong with your packages...01:15
smaudetwhat distro are you using?01:15
Rookie407ubuntu 13.04 RR01:15
smaudetRR?01:16
usr13Rookie407: sudo apt-get remove nvidia*   #And start over.01:16
smaudetOh nvm01:16
smaudetRookie407: try usr13's command01:16
smaudetif that spits garbage you may want to re-download ubuntu and re-install01:16
rcythrHas anyone here managed to get multithreading working with gcc-4.8 using the package from Saucy? I've tried everything I can think of and g++ refuses to link pthreads. It acts as if it's linking a single threaded lib instead of the multithread one01:16
Rookie407this will be the 20th time i've started over... =\01:16
Ben64i haven't been following whats going on, which video card do you have Rookie40701:17
usr13Rookie407: And then install nvidia-17301:17
Rookie407nvidia geforce fx 550001:17
Flannelrcythr: #ubuntu+1 for Saucy support, thanks.01:17
smaudetRookie407: new CD, new flash drive?01:17
usr13Rookie407: sudo apt-get install nvidia-17301:17
Rookie407what you mean smaudet01:17
usr13!info !nvidia-173 | Rookie40701:18
ubottuRookie407: nvidia-173 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-173): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 173.14.37-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 12081 kB, installed size 36608 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; lpia)01:18
rcythrFlannel: thanks I knew there would be a channel for it somewhere, just didn't know what it was called.01:18
Flannelrcythr: No worries.  Good luck!01:18
smaudetRookie407: when you re-download/re-install ubuntu, start with a *fresh* install media01:18
Rookie407and usr13 not to be rude man but i really dont wanna start over again. i've gotten soo far with it already01:18
smaudetif you've tried unsuccesfully to install 20 times01:18
smaudetthere is probably something wrong with your computer01:18
smaudetor the install media01:19
Rookie407its old as dirt is whats wrong =P01:19
usr13Rookie407: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*   #And start over.01:19
Rookie407p4 processor with 2gb ram01:19
smaudetRookie407: try 12.04.3 LTS01:19
smaudet13.04 is bad for old computers01:19
smaudet12.04.3 is good for them01:19
usr13Rookie407: Old as dirt?01:19
Rookie407my computer usr1301:19
Semperlol01:20
Semperhardcore01:20
SemperI put arch on my crappy laptops01:20
usr13Rookie407: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*  &&  sudo apt-get install nvidia-17301:20
smaudetRookie407: Nvidia can be bumpy at times but those commands shoulda worked, if dpkg -l nvidia* is broken, odds are the whole system is broken. Still to be safe, run the commands usr13 gave and verify they don't work01:21
usr13Rookie407: I'd turn off the X server first,  sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop01:21
Rookie407whats a good distro aside from ubuntu that would run on this thing01:21
smaudetWell there's the 12.04.301:21
smaudetI'd recommend PuppyDog Linux01:21
smaudetCrunchBang01:21
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smaudetAnd Arch01:21
Ben64i'd recommend 12.0401:21
Ben64none of those others are supported here01:21
smaudetBut Arch is for advanceds users mostly01:21
Rookie407i wanted to use mint but it seems to require dual core01:22
smaudetYou probably want to stick with crunchbang or puppydog01:22
smaudetif you can't 12.04.3 to work for you either01:22
Semperwat01:22
Sempermint needs dual core?01:22
usr13Rookie407: See my PM01:22
Ben64mint isn't supported here01:22
Semperas in it refuses to install on a toaster?01:22
smaudet13.04 is for nice *new* computers, not old ones01:22
Rookie407i have a 10.x copy of ubu somewhere and i know the drivers worked for it01:22
Ben6410.04 is no longer supported for desktops01:23
Ben64use 12.0401:23
usr13Rookie407: Forget it 10.x is too old.01:23
smaudetUm01:23
Rookie407lol01:23
smaudetBen64: read the irc title01:23
usr13Rookie407: One thing is for sure, you won't fix it if you don't try.01:23
smaudet10.04 LTS is supported for servers01:23
Ben64which isn't a desktop01:23
Rookie407true that usr1301:23
smaudetoh well i guess you said 'desktop'01:23
smaudetmeh fine01:23
worrowneed some help reviving an old beast01:23
SemperAre there any devs in? I have a serious bone to pick about apache!01:23
SemperSomeone backport it from debian already01:24
SemperForward secrecy doesn't work!01:24
worrowDell Vostro 1000, Any linux dist I try and boot to install starts with black screen and colored lines. Any ideas?01:24
Semper2.4 has been out for a YEAR!01:24
Semperworrow, that sounds broken01:24
Ben64Semper: this is not the right channel for rants01:24
Rookie407brb gonna reboot01:24
smaudet!ot | Semper01:24
ubottuSemper: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:24
smaudet#apache?01:24
Semperwell no01:24
Semperits a ubuntu issue01:24
usr13Rookie407: Ctrl-Alt-F6 [and login] sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop && sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*  &&  sudo apt-get install nvidia-173 && reboot01:25
worrowDell Vostro 1000, Any linux dist I try and boot to install starts with black screen and colored lines. Any ideas?01:25
smaudet!ask | Semper01:25
ubottuSemper: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:25
Semperthey haven't backported apache 2.4 despite debian having it in the same repo.01:25
usr13Rookie407: Not all at once, but do it separately.01:25
smaudetSemper: have you tried installing it from deb?01:25
smaudetOr is it dep hell?01:25
SemperThat's dep hell01:25
smaudet*sigh*01:25
Semperand maintaining it would be a cluster fuck01:25
smaudetGlad I don't run an apache server on here then.01:26
Semper>doing that on a production machine01:26
SemperNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO01:26
IdleOne!language01:26
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.01:26
worrowis there some graphics option i can try and disable to get past a blac screen with colored lines before install?01:26
Semperapologies ;)01:26
smaudetIdleOne: clusterfuck is !language?01:26
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worrowNot much help in here today.01:27
SemperI tend to assume anyone who can use IRC is over 1601:27
Semperworrow, like I said01:27
Semperit sounds like it is broken01:28
Sempergpu sounds fried01:28
IdleOneage has nothing to do with the language rule01:28
IdleOne!guidelines01:28
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines01:28
Semperare you a person?01:28
worrowhow would I be able to find out? I did have 1 disc initially go right into live desktop but the next time would not. I know it is working, just lacking some kernel or driver01:28
usr13Semper: Over 1600 and no one under 16?  Ok....01:28
DuncanNZSemper: ubottu is a bot triggered when people write something starting with a !01:29
Semperworrow, I thought you said this had been happening under many live disks?01:29
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worrowSemper, yes it has.01:29
SemperI meant IdleOne  DuncanNZ01:29
Semperwhat about windows worrow ?01:29
Sempergot a install usb / disk about for that?01:29
Sempereither: it's broke, or something funny in the kernel01:29
worrowWindows it fine01:30
Semperoooh weird.01:30
Semperinteresting.01:30
worrowits older and would run better on an ubuntu distro01:30
Sempertry doing a full install, it may be a momentary thing01:30
worrowbut I am unable to see anything01:31
SemperIdleOne, are you a person? >_<01:31
IdleOneSemper: I am.01:31
worrowis there some boot command to avoid this?01:31
SemperI see.01:31
Semperworrow, not that I am aware of.01:31
worrowCan I run a boot command on a dvd?01:31
Semperyou got a spare screen?01:31
Semperhook that up and see if it persists01:31
worrownope01:31
SemperI dunno how to help tbh01:32
Semperit you cannot get on it, you cannot really work out what isn't working easily01:32
SemperI would suggest googling the GPU +ubuntu to see if someone has dealt with it before01:32
Semperfailing that, remote install ubuntu with SSH01:33
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worrowhow can I do that?01:33
Sempershould be able to do that with ubuntu server01:33
usr13!ubottu | Semper01:33
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SemperI think ...01:33
Semperbut usr13 I was asking IdleOne  :P01:33
dns42hey guys, is there a way to define an alternative not permanently (using update-alternatives) but temporarily, just for a single session?01:33
kellmoo69Hello All01:34
SchrodingersScatkellmoo69: hello01:34
dns42that means, i want to have ruby 1.9.1 for a user session, but 1.8 for everyone else01:34
kellmoo69Newbie here - fresh install of Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS having trouble setting up Samba01:35
usr13kellmoo69: What's the trouble?01:36
LinuxGoldhttp://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/exploits_of_a_mom.png01:36
LinuxGoldlol01:36
SchrodingersScatkellmoo69: this seemed like a thing that you might check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html01:36
SchrodingersScat!samba | kellmoo6901:36
ubottukellmoo69: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.01:36
SchrodingersScatkellmoo69: probably best to ues that latest 12.04 link, rather than my 10.04 which is what google spit up on me01:37
usr13SchrodingersScat: Prolly not much difference tho...01:37
kellmoo69Get this error message,   sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf01:38
kellmoo69sudo: gedit: command not found01:38
Semperinstall gedit01:38
usr13kellmoo69: gksudo01:38
kellmoo69i dont understand why "command not found"01:38
SchrodingersScatkellmoo69: oh, right, you are on server right? try nano01:38
Sempernano works too01:38
Semperctrl+x to quit01:38
Semperand save01:38
SchrodingersScatkellmoo69: and or whatever cli text editor you like, unless you have a gui01:38
usr13kellmoo69: gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf01:38
kellmoo69oh really, i will try that brb01:38
kellmoo69gksu is not installed it tells me01:39
dr_willisheh -- the command was not found.. whats not to understand01:39
dr_willis'gksudo'  for gui apps01:39
dr_willisi think gksu is being phased out. ssaw some mention of that on askubuntu.com01:40
kellmoo69i will try sudo nano01:40
SchrodingersScatkellmoo69: yeah, you probably don't have most packages that involve graphics.01:40
Semperis gedit installed by default?01:40
dr_willisnano, fte, vi  ;) all handy editors to know01:40
SemperEMACS01:40
Semperhuehuehue01:40
kellmoo69HEY sudo nano works!01:41
kellmoo69oh fantastic01:41
smaudetor just gksu01:41
kellmoo69@SchrodingersScat thank you!01:41
dr_willisnano tip #1  =    ^ means Hit the ctrl key  :)     ^w = ctrl+w01:41
kellmoo69all everyone else :)01:41
smaudetdr_willis: gksudo is just for the cmdline, yes?01:41
Semperthats the only way you can type it in certainly :P01:42
usr13gksudo is for GUI apps like gedit01:42
dr_willisgksudo is for gui apps. it can work with cli apps if you want ti pop up a dialog asking for the password (like in a script)01:42
kellmoo69@dr_willis good tip, thanks01:42
smaudetdr_willis: sure but I just ran e.g. 'gksu gedit' and it works fine01:42
dr_willisone of the reasons i HATE nano being reccomened to beginners.. they have no idea what ^ means01:42
usr13 sudo is all you need for CLI apps01:42
dr_willisgksu is being phased out smaudet01:42
ntzrmtthihu777gksudo or kdsudo, depending on the de01:42
dr_willisor somthing like that01:42
smaudetdr_willis: for what reason?01:43
usr13Yea, I like vi better01:43
usr13vim01:43
SchrodingersScatkellmoo69: cli is superior, hang in there01:43
smaudetdr_willis: and I can always just alias gksu to gksudo01:43
usr13ntzrmtthihu777: Thanks for correction, (didn't know that...).01:43
ntzrmtthihu777you know what, I never had issue with nano, even when I was first starting linux on ubuntu lucid01:43
dr_willissmaudet:  whats the point.. the 2 commands do slightly difffernt things..01:43
smaudetdr_willis: i.e. what technical reason is it being phased out?01:43
usr13ntzrmtthihu777: Good for you!  :)01:44
dr_willissmaudet:  check askubuntu.com - they mentioned it a few weeks ago01:44
ntzrmtthihu777usr13: I only know that accidentally, I always have used gtk de's01:44
Semperdoes e17 work in ubuntu?01:44
dr_willisSemper:  you can install E17 on ubuntu01:44
usr13ntzrmtthihu777: Good to know.....01:44
steve__it works in ubuntu as well as it works elsewhere01:44
Semperbadly?01:45
Semperhuehuehue01:45
SemperI jk01:45
dr_willisive nevr really had 'e' of any # work well01:45
smaudetdr_willis: oh ok user privs01:45
kellmoo69question - is it possible to make my Samba visible only to my local home network?01:45
SemperLast time I tried e1701:45
smaudetdr_willis: in that case its a good thing and I'll alias to gsu for my personal purposes01:45
Semperit was like openbox01:45
dr_williskellmoo69:  thats how it should be by deffault as far as i know.01:46
Semperdr_willis, I am pretty sure you cannot easily not do it01:47
smaudetdr_willis: although I'm not sure what the practical difference is, if I run gksu gedit, and then gksudo gedit, I just get another tab in the 'root' gedit01:47
Semperyou'd need no router/broken router or a VPN01:47
smaudetI suppose I don't understand elevated gui programs well?01:48
dr_willisgksu does a similer task. but with some little differances.. i cant recall ever needing to uise gksu01:49
dr_willisi alays use gksudo01:49
usr13kellmoo69: I think you can put:  hosts allow = 192.168.1.4 192.168.1.5  in global section to allow only .4 and .5 (the list can be longer), Or, hosts allow = 192.168.1.  (For the whole subnet).01:49
smaudetdr_willis: sure gksu is easier to type which is why I use(d) it01:49
smaudetgoing ahead and removing it anyways01:49
dr_willissmaudet:  may as well make a easier alias like GS01:49
usr13kellmoo69: There is also "hosts deny"01:50
smaudetdr_willis: two letter acronyms...don't like them. Too many of them already01:50
smaudetI don't want to be thinking e.g. "Geneva Summit Gedit" :P01:50
smaudetjust as a silly example01:50
kellmoo69@usr13 good suggestion,  thanks01:51
usr13NP01:51
smaudetdr_willis: I wonder - is there any way to gksudo unity-desktop?01:52
smaudetI think a lot of people have wished for a way to 'su' into their graphical environments for just a bit01:53
ntzrmtthihu777smaudet: login as root?01:53
dr_willissmaudet:  that wound be a rather silly thing to do. you dont want to start up X as root either.01:53
SchrodingersScatntzrmtthihu777: the only issue i've had is that it adds a newline at the end of the file sometimes/always?  unless you know a way to stop that.01:53
smaudetntzrmtthihu777: no, just run anything you start graphically as an elevated process for a bit01:53
smaudetno root 'login'01:53
ntzrmtthihu777SchrodingersScat: How's your cat? In any case, not a clue, lol.01:53
smaudetdr_willis: I realize that, it would just be root 'mode', not starting X as root01:54
dr_willissmaudet:   the biggest danger i see to a ubuntu box in here on a daily basis. is the useres doing silly things that brean the system01:54
dr_willisbreak...01:54
smaudetdr_willis: yeah but sudo times out01:54
dr_willisif you want a 'root app launcher' then  use some dock ran as root i guess01:54
smaudetthis would be the same01:54
Rookie407how can i find the nvidia-alternatives-legacy-173xx package to sudo remove and purge it just that package?01:54
dr_willisyou can set sudo to not time out if you really wanted01:54
smaudetdr_willis: but it would be silly as well01:54
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: I find this is the case regardless of distro/os, lol01:54
ntzrmtthihu777smaudet: sudo -i ?01:55
smaudetif a user wants to be silly there's not much stopping them from logging in with X as root01:55
smaudetIf its just a matter of convenience, probably not bad to provide a fake graphical su01:55
smaudetand have it timeout01:55
ntzrmtthihu777smaudet: well I've used kali and backtrack, and both are default root logins :P01:55
dr_willisuntill they come in here ranting that  'ubuntu sucks - it let me break it'01:56
dr_willispuppylinux also runs everything as root01:56
smaudetdr_willis: they can do that anyways with just gksudo01:56
smaudetits just less convenient for them01:56
smaudetOr even just sudo01:56
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: is that so? I played around with lupu for a while, but never knew that.01:57
smaudetI'm not going to paste the command but any admin can mess their system royally with a single command01:57
user9302011You could remaster an ubuntu CD/DVD using remastersys and change login and X to root. Then you have root on a read only CD/DVD and not messup the system.01:57
smaudetBy accident no less01:57
ntzrmtthihu777smaudet: I'm aware of a few :P01:57
dr_willisi can think of a dozen. ;P01:57
rcythrhehe remove mail real fast01:57
Sempersmaudet, does it begin with rm01:58
Semperand end with01:58
Semper-rf01:58
Semper /01:58
smaudetSemper: as dr_willis said there are lots of ways01:58
dr_williserr rm has been patched for some time now where you cant accidently remove /01:58
ntzrmtthihu777Semper: no, it ends with --no-preserve-root :P01:58
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Semperbut ofc01:58
rcythrdoes it check for just / or variants like /*01:59
smaudetYou either A) don't give users root access and they yell at you for not being able to do squat, or B) You give them root access and accept that danger01:59
dr_willistry it out in vbox and see01:59
smaudetMight as well make them comfortable doing it01:59
ntzrmtthihu777ls really needs an octal notation flag, lol. I'v got a perl wrapper that does it, though.01:59
dr_willisthe users yell no matter what.. so i do what makes my life easier. not theirs01:59
smaudetIf you really want we could go all UAC and give them a yes/no dialog box01:59
Sempersmaudet, or I do the following01:59
Sempergive them superuser on our site01:59
delinquentmeso how can I run a command and get a explicit identifier saying that a given usb is in device or host mode?02:00
Semperand run backups every 20 minutes02:00
smaudetSemper, dr_willis is talking about single user installs who aren't part of an organization02:00
ntzrmtthihu777smaudet: right? It kinda irks me that root's .bashrc has tab-completion *disabled*. If someone is issuing root commands, I damn well want them to do them properly :P02:00
SemperI know02:00
smaudetAnd have no clue how to do that02:00
SemperI give them a live disk02:00
Semper:P02:00
smaudetOr have anyone to give them a live disk ;)02:00
SemperI give them Lili02:01
Semper:p02:01
dr_willisi tend to tell them to not use lili  ;)02:01
ntzrmtthihu777pebkac, problem exists between keyboard and chair :P02:01
dr_willisand refer them to the pendrivelinux web site02:01
Semperwell, depends if you want them to learn or not02:01
SemperI can compile an OS and I still just use Lili02:01
Semper:P02:01
user9302011Yes a live Ubuntu CD/DVD with root access and make a persistant save file (ie capser) to save changes then it's similar to puppylinux except you have a real ubuntu.02:01
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: pen drive linux02:01
ntzrmtthihu777's guide didn't work 100% for me; for some reason the usb stick was looking for /dev/sda1 of my main box, even when I changed /boot/grub/load.cfg's uuid02:02
ntzrmtthihu777dr_willis: so, I ended up installing the basic arch linux system on said usb, and use its grub and custom script files to setup iso boots :P02:03
smaudetdr_willis: and anyways with regards to 'making life easier' for you, I'm not referring to installing this 'convient gksudo' by default02:03
anton02centOS is to fedora as debian is to ubuntu. Would u rather centOS or ubuntu02:03
smaudetPut it in a third party repo and blame them when they install and mess up their system.02:03
Semperanton02, I thought that was CentOS to RHEL02:03
smaudetLike you usually do ;)02:03
smaudet(not you personally)02:04
kellmoo69question - Samba: Will store my media files to stream in my home, is it possible to setup the Share without a prompt for user name or password?02:04
magboGreetings, gentlemen! What optimizations would you propose for running Ubuntu off a USB stick? I have ~1GiB of RAM to spare.02:05
anton02Semper: RHEL just as tech support i think02:05
anton02has*02:05
dr_williskellmoo69:  you can mount samba shares via  /etc/fstab if you wanted to02:05
ChogyDanmagbo: you may want to look into pendrive linux.  I'm sure they would know / already have it setup02:05
SemperI thought CentOS was just RHEL but FOSS?02:05
dr_willismagbo:  i run ubuntu (full install ) off usb flash all the time.. setting up xubuntu on a  netbook right now02:05
Semperfrom source02:06
dr_willismagbo:  theres some  'put the users browser cache' in ram tweak  i saw on omgubuntu or webupd8 that mmay be handy if you got the ram02:06
smaudetdr_willis: don't mean to be disrespectfull btw, thank you for your ealier info, gksu is uninstalled :)02:07
Sempertmpfs dr_willis02:07
Sempersymlink the cache02:07
dr_willisi dont have the ram to spare on a netbook. ;)02:07
magboChogyDan: no I don't. I need Ubuntu LTS 12.04 because those are build reqs for the dev env of a project I write. Thanks anyway.02:07
SemperLack of ambition.02:07
Semper:P02:07
SemperI put a whole minecraft server in ram02:07
Semperbut i do have 16gb ....02:07
dr_willisi dont even browse on the netbook, its a ssh  client.02:07
kellmoo69@dr_willis Thanks for the Tip02:07
Semperdr_willis, your netbook sounds like my phone ;)02:08
magbodr_willis: I'm looking for some magic hybrid ramfs.02:08
dr_willismy phone has moar ram then my netbook.. it also cosst 3x as much02:08
Semper:P02:09
LinuxGoldback in old days, phone have no memory at all02:09
smaudetalthough now I see gksudo doesn't exist outside of gksu, so perhaps they already are the same?02:09
LinuxGoldjust switches02:09
Semperstop buying toasters then02:09
dr_willisi think my phone has 2x the video resolution of my ntbook also. ;)02:09
SemperI think I still have a gen 1 celeron laptop somewhere02:10
Semperwe should race them02:10
smaudetWhat, is your netbook 640x320?02:10
Semperit's also taped together and missing the bottom ram panel02:10
ntzrmtthihu777kellmoo69: yep, I have it setup on mine :P02:10
dr_willissmaudet:  they got phones now with 1080P res ;)02:11
magbosmaudet: gksu provides gksudo in Ubuntu.02:11
magbowait02:11
smaudetdr_willis: sure, but that's not that high02:11
magbogksu provides gksudo in Archlinux and I'm almost sure that the same is true for Ubuntu.02:12
magbos/almost/almost completely02:12
smaudetdr_willis: its only 1920x1080, or 2.1 mp02:12
smaudetMost 10 year old cameras shoot higher def than that02:12
kellmoo69@ntzrmtthihu777 are you running Server or Desktop version Samba?02:12
magbosmaudet: not to mention 20 year old cameras :)02:13
LinuxGoldanyone running drobo5N NAS?02:13
magboLinuxGold: DATAA02:13
wilee-nileesmaudet, You have to install gksu to get gksudo which is what you should use.02:13
LinuxGoldany good?02:13
smaudetdr_willis: your phone probably does have much, much higher dpi though02:13
dr_willis1024x600 - i cant play wesonth on this one.  it wantss at least a XXXx800 sized display. ;)02:13
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magboLinuxGold: DATAA means "Don't Ask To Ask - Ask!"02:14
smaudetSo it looks 'higher res' 'cause the pixels are pushed closer02:14
dr_willismy other netbook is like 800x600 or was it higher. i dont recall. its the grandkids02:14
smaudetDo you have a 1080p phone then?02:14
smaudet!ot | smaudet02:14
ubottusmaudet, please see my private message02:14
LinuxGoldmagbo on ignore02:14
ntzrmtthihu777kellmoo69: accessing samba shares on a server from desktop.02:14
sammyso a launchpad bugreport suggests fixing an issue by purging and reinstalling update-manager, which I can't do without uninstalling a bunch of packages I'd rather not. or at least if I use apt or aptitude to do it. how can I force the re-install (or purging of) a package that other packages depend on without removing those dependent debs?02:15
ntzrmtthihu777!tab save yourself some time, just type ntz then hit tab | kellmoo6902:15
ubottuntzrmtthihu777: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:15
smaudet!data | LinuxGold02:15
smaudetdarn02:15
smaudet!dataa | LinuxGold02:15
ntzrmtthihu777the hell?02:15
LinuxGoldlol02:15
ntzrmtthihu777!anybody02:15
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.02:15
LinuxGoldI'm asking if it is any good02:15
jribsammy: "an issue"?02:15
ntzrmtthihu777!tab02:15
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:15
LinuxGoldubottu was ignored already btw.02:16
ubottuLinuxGold: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:16
trismsammy: you can reinstall with: sudo apt-get install --reinstall package; though that won't purge the config, so won't help if it is a config issue02:16
trismsammy: what bug number?02:16
ntzrmtthihu777trism: apt-get --reinstall purge?02:16
ChogyDanntzrmtthihu777: I think it was the comma02:16
magboThis dude is hilarious, guys, dataa him more, he'll get a silent #ubuntu :D02:16
LinuxGoldlol02:16
sammytrism: lemme try that. I cant beleive I didnt even grep the apt-get man for reinstall :(02:17
LinuxGoldI'm trying to find a good NAS device -- saw drobo 5N NAS and wanted to know if anyone used it and if it is good or not?02:17
jribLinuxGold: do you have an ubuntu support question?  This channel is for ubuntu support.02:17
LinuxGoldI'm using it for Ubuntu02:17
LinuxGold:)02:17
smaudetI wish we could pipe replies from ubottu02:17
LinuxGoldDo it have problem with Ubuntu?02:18
gasshohow do i get ea origin to run on ubuntu 13.0402:18
smaudetLinuxGold: ubottu is a bot; he's a good bot; we use him to not half to type stuff to you02:18
dr_willisif the nas supports the services that ubuntu supports. there should be no problem02:18
smaudetLinuxGold: if you mute him you're not gonna get much help out of anyone here likely02:18
* gassho hugs that bot :>02:18
LinuxGoldI ignore bot replies02:18
magboDoes anyone know category theory?02:18
jribmagbo: try ##math02:18
ntzrmtthihu777!poll | LinuxGold02:19
ubottuLinuxGold: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:19
magbojrib: but I'm reading a book in it using evince on Ubuntu box.02:19
LinuxGoldlet me rephase -- anyne running Drobo 5N NAS on their Ubuntu servers and having any problem?02:19
smaudets/half/have/02:19
ntzrmtthihu777LinuxGold: then in that case you're liable to get banned/kicked.02:19
jribmagbo: heh02:19
LinuxGoldok, I'll ask elsewhere related with Ubuntu...02:19
dr_willisthere is the  #hardware channle that may know about stand alone nas boxs02:19
kellmoo69Arrg - frustrated newbie here - trying to set the Permission and having no luck. Get error using the following, sudo chmod 0777 /media/samba02:20
kellmoo69chmod: cannot access `/media/samba': No such file or directory02:20
jfhjdhey how do i find out if this processor is 64 bit compat?02:20
jribkellmoo69: why are you doing that?02:20
kellmoo69almost ready to switch back to Windoze....stop me!02:20
Semperkellmoo69, can you cd to that location?02:20
ntzrmtthihu777kellmoo69: it needs to exits, lol.02:20
dr_williskellmoo69:  you dont really chown.chmod samba share mounts.02:20
jfhjdkellmoo69: go right ahead02:20
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jfhjdwindows is is nsa friendly02:20
dr_williskellmoo69:  you set the permissions on the samba server, and set them when you  mount the share via the right mount options02:20
jfhjdso is my cpu 64bit compatible02:20
Semperjfhjd, google the processor02:20
jfhjdi dont know what processor this is02:20
john38Anybody know where i can find the first ubuntu release of Precise Pangolin not 12.04.1 or 12.04.2??02:20
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Sempertake out the processor02:21
jribjfhjd: what OS are you using?02:21
Semperread it02:21
Sempergoogle it02:21
ntzrmtthihu777kellmoo69: you need to configure your samba config on the server properly, want the info/02:21
jfhjddebian i think02:21
Semperfailing that02:21
jribjohn38: why would you want that?02:21
Semper cat /proc/cpuinfo02:21
FloodBot1Semper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:21
jfhjdse02:21
jfhjdSemper: fiuybd it02:21
jfhjdfound it02:21
john38jrib, because i seem to be having issues with the later releases02:21
jribjohn38: what issues?02:21
magbojrib: cat /proc/cpuinfo02:21
SemperI'm guessing cat /proc/cpuinfo did it?02:21
smaudetGonna repeat my question from before; anyone know much about dbus events? rpcbind is emitting a faulty one? If not I'm just gonna ask in #dbus likely02:21
jribsmaudet: what's your actual question?02:22
jfhjdouch 32 for me only02:22
sammytrism: bug #1053292 has two comments that suggest purging and reinstalling update-manager works, but I'd rather not (if I can avoid it) remove ubuntu-desktop and other high level packages to fix something. I should be able to purge it and leave other packages broken until I re-install the package, no?02:22
ubottubug 985969 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1053292 update-manager crashed with RuntimeError in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gi/overrides/Gtk.py: Gtk couldn't be initialized" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98596902:22
jribjfhjd: how old is this thing?02:22
john38jrib, aww..um random shutdown to terminal with alot of output02:22
smaudetjrib: initctl's output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6073017/02:22
jfhjdjrib: 5 years?02:22
smaudetI'm getting some errors on startup02:22
jfhjdmaybe 502:22
john38jrib, i dont have computer with me at the moment02:23
dr_willissammy:  ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package - so shouldent affect anything if it gets removed02:23
jfhjdnc10 samsung02:23
Johnny_Linuxshould be atleast a 2gig cpu02:23
smaudetjrib: I already tracked the problem down, to the dbus event being emitted in the upstart job02:23
jribjfhjd: what was the output of « cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags »?02:23
jribsmaudet: you're on 13.04?02:23
jfhjdflags: fpu vme de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 xtpr pdcm movbe lahf_lm02:23
kellmoo69@ntzrmtthihu777 - That would be much appreciated if you can send me the info02:24
sammydr_willis: true, and I think most of them that depend on update-manager are ubuntu meta packages, all but update-notifier. I was just wondering if there was a cmdline with dpkg or apt to purge something and leave dependent packages broken02:24
magbojrib: address size (given it's x86) should yield informative result as well, but I'm not sure what will be output of it on 32bit installation.02:25
jribsmaudet: hmm, you sure that's not just upstart related?  Why do you believe dbus is involved?02:25
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ubottukellmoo69 @ dies not notify the user: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:25
wilee-nileedoes*02:25
smaudetjrib: 12.04.3 LTS, and what might help me would be to see the output of this command: 'less /etc/init/rpcbind-boot.conf | pastebinit'02:25
jfhjdare 64 bitters faster at all02:25
jfhjdon 64 bit strings i guess they must be02:25
smaudetjrib: because if you'll run that command and look at the output it invokes initctl02:25
smaudetwhich is a dbus thing02:25
dr_willisi find video reencoding a bit faster on 64bit then 3202:25
smaudetthe error has to do with the event being emitted, start-rpcbind02:26
magbojfhjd: why do you think so?02:26
smaudetjrib: here's my file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6073027/02:26
magbojfhjd: I'm not even sure what do you mean with 64bit strings, but go on.02:26
smaudetjrib: if you or someone else in the channel could invoke 'sudo status rpcbind-boot' that might help me to know whether initctl or dbus is broken02:28
usr13kellmoo69: Where are you at with it?  (I've been away.)02:28
smaudetMine is 'stop waiting'02:28
jribsmaudet: I think you're looking at the wrong file02:28
LinuxGoldjfhjd: 64 bits is just more memory than 32 bits02:28
smaudetjrib: why do you say that?02:28
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smaudetjrib: if you know the file where the dbus events are stored, please share :)02:29
jribsmaudet: start on: unknown event start-rpcbind <-- this indicates to me that a job specifies "start on start-rpcbind"02:29
jribsmaudet: on 13.04, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6073030/02:29
magbojfhjd: yeah, LinuxGold is correct, define "faster".02:30
smaudetjrib: looks identical02:30
smaudetjrib: how about the 'sudo status rpcbind-boot' ?02:30
smaudetAnd I think this file is fine, the dbus is at fault02:30
jribsmaudet: rpcbind-boot stop/waiting02:31
kellmoo69@usr13 - I'm very lost, probably because I'm tired.  But I managed to get my share showing-up from the Windoze PC, but it's asking for a username and password.  So I go ahead and userer my administrator credentials and it takes me to the share folder, but then Windows tells me that I don't have any Permission.02:31
sammyfor anyone following along at home, I think this was an issue with this machine originally being a hardy heron kubuntu install and is now a gnome machine updated. all sorts of new packages wanted to install after purging update-manager and installing ubuntu-desktop again (which was installed and removed in the purge)02:31
smaudetjrib: ok, so again identical to mine02:31
smaudetjrib: do you recall seeing an rpcbind error on startup?02:31
jribsmaudet: what's in your /etc/init/portmap.conf?02:31
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LinuxGold32 bit can holdup to 4Gb where 64 bit can go as high as to 16 Eb02:32
smaudethttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6073049/02:32
jribsmaudet: I think the real issue to investigate is "unknown event start-rpcbind" since the portmap job is waiting for that event02:32
smaudetjrib: you came to the same conclusion as me02:32
jribsmaudet: and yeah I get some rpcbind errors on boot02:33
smaudetand since that error is from initctl02:33
smaudetits a dbus problem02:33
smaudethence my original conclusion02:33
jribsmaudet: I don't agree; but it could be.  I think it's an upstart issue02:33
wilee-nileekellmoo69, @ does not notify the user, use tab to complete nicks.02:33
usr13kellmoo69: Oh come on, it's not that hard.02:33
smaudetjrib: like an upstart dbus api?02:33
varunendramagbo, LinuxGold, jfhjd  64 bit will either be faster or equal to 32 bit in performance, unless there is shortage of memory for what you do (like opening too many ff tabs at once).02:33
jribsmaudet: what errors are you seeing on boot?02:34
smaudetjrib: I wasn't able to fully document them, I'd have to take the machine down and bring it back up02:34
smaudetwouldn't take me too long02:34
kellmoo69usr13: I'm very lost, probably because I'm tired. But I managed to get my share showing-up from the Windoze PC, but it's asking for a username and password. So I go ahead and userer my administrator credentials and it takes me to the share folder, but then Windows tells me that I don't have any Permission.02:34
smaudetjrib: brb?02:34
jribsmaudet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6073063/ from /var/log/boot.log02:34
smaudetjrib: yeah that looks like what I recall seeing02:35
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smaudetjrib: empty directory, so the errors are valid02:35
* smaudet googles02:35
SupaYoshidoes anybody know if its possible to turn off a printer thats connected to usb?02:35
SupaYoshiwith a command ?02:36
SupaYoshiso i dunt have to press the power button, i believe ubuntu was able to shutdown my printer before..02:36
smaudethmm, one solution is to uninstall, but I already looked at the deps graph and it looked like its being used for nfs02:36
smaudetso I didn't want to get rid of it02:37
varunendraSupaYoshi, "shut down" or sleep? Sleep is a printer's inbuilt feature (if there is no activity for a long time).02:37
SupaYoshivarunendra, where the power hutton goes off.02:37
jribsmaudet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6073017/ how did you get this?02:37
smaudetjrib: initctl check-config02:38
smaudetonly error that comes up02:38
usr13kellmoo69: pastebinit02:38
usr13kellmoo69: pastebinit /etc/samba/smb.conf02:38
varunendraSupaYoshi, did you have to press the power button on the printer to be able to send a print again? I've never seen that behaviour.02:38
SupaYoshivarunendra, yes i had to turn it on again ;)02:39
jribsmaudet: I'm not convinced that's "bad" (but I'm reading http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/)02:39
SupaYoshiit would save me some power if i could shutdown the printer after being used.02:39
xybreWhen an upstart service fails to start, where do the logs go?02:39
SupaYoshiI dunt like wasting energy and im too stupid to turn it off manually since im so busy\02:39
dr_willismy printer (and all of them ive ever had for the last 5+ years) auto power down/sleep after a few hrs of non use.02:40
smaudetjrib: well it hasn't (afaik) caused me to have something not working, but I'd like to at least know what's going wrong02:40
dr_williseven with it on. i doubt if its taking much power02:40
smaudetsmall bugs can become big ones later02:40
xybreThere's a /var/logs/upstart directory, but I don't see an error.log or anything02:40
jribsmaudet: have you checked bugs.ubuntu.com?02:40
varunendradr_willis, was it a default behaviour (power down) or you had to set it in the printer?02:41
jribxybre: upstart wiki has some debugging tips.  Poke me if you can't find it02:41
smaudetjrib: not yet; assuming its on there, unless there's a fix I need to know where/how dbus publishes events to track down the cause02:41
smaudetAt least I've convinced myself of that, vaguely02:41
xybreThanks jrib02:42
dr_willisvarunendra:  always been the default for the last 4+ printers ive had.. and  for most ive seen in the last 6+ years02:42
smaudetjrib: a search pulls up current bugs on nfs02:42
dr_williscould be it was more of a power-saveing-sleep mode i guess.. not really powering down02:43
kellmoo69usr13: Thank you. Checking pastebinit now. whatever that is.02:43
smaudetjrib: rpcinfo does pull up some info so I suppose one way of investigating would be to write a small python dbus example to query the rpc interface?02:44
smaudetTo see if the status message is baloney or not.02:44
varunendradr_willis, maybe I'm too ignorant then. But I remember turning it on in the morning and being able to print in the night without needing to turn it on (HP MFPs.., P1050, Canon Inkjet,..)02:44
thanigaihello i have 3g dongle connection issue , when i connect  notification shows "Activation of network connection failed" please any help .02:44
dr_willisvarunendra:  turn it on when  you first take it out of the box. :) then forget about it...02:44
smaudetjrib: know any good dbus apis I should be able to connect two?02:45
smaudetOn a related note does anyone have any solid recommendations for a dbus ui?02:45
dr_willisvarunendra:  mine actually has a power off switch. at the back that i cant recall the last time i used.02:45
smaudetFor querying/playing with the dbus apis on my machine?02:45
jribsmaudet: weird.  I changed "start-rpcbind" in /etc/init/portmap.conf to some nonsense, ran initctl reload-configuration (even though I shouldn't need to), and check-config still mentions exactly "start-rpcbind" instead of my nonsense02:45
kellmoo69usr13: Okay that looks very cool. So it looks like that program allows me to send you my config file.02:45
smaudetjrib: it couldbe the problem is in portmap and not in rpcbind then02:46
smaudetit does say 'portmap' at the top02:46
jribsmaudet: there's a "standard" library for python dbus; but I still think you are barking up the wrong tree02:46
varunendradr_willis, yep, that's what I call 'Sleep' then :D02:46
xybreAh turns out its an init.d script, so it could go anywhere02:47
jribsmaudet: the real question is what does upstart consider "known events"02:48
kellmoo69usr13: Do you need the URL created for PasteBinit created?02:48
jribsmaudet: and even then, I'm not convinced this will solve the missing file error we actually see on boot; what bug did you find?02:49
HodappI'm on Ubuntu 13.04 on ARM; does anyone have any idea why no amount of editing /etc/hostname and rebooting seems to have any effect on my hostname?02:49
dr_willis!hostname02:49
ubottuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.02:49
varunendrathanigai, did you choose the correct network and APN in the Mobile Broadband configuration wizard?02:50
bazhangHodapp, what about #ubuntu-arm   , tried there?02:50
Hodappdr_willis: I've done both, and I've never seen /etc/hosts have any behavior on what 'hostname' reports.02:50
[[thufir]]1I'm on 12.04 LTS and think I have a hardware problem(?).  In Unity, clicking on icons doesn't always work.  no, the mouse is fine.  It's the icons.  Like, I can start pidgin, but can't click on the freenode rooms and had to use finch.02:51
smaudethttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=rpcbind&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=02:51
smaudeteeps02:51
smaudetsorry02:51
kellmoo69usr13: Are you still there?02:52
[[thufir]]1how do I know whether the video card could perhaps be causing this?  I can't really google anything.02:52
Hodappdr_willis: I'm setting hostname the same way I've set hostnames on Linux boxes since about 2001. If you're aware of some other mechanism Ubuntu is following for determining hostname, I'd be interested in hearing it.02:52
HodappBut otherwise, these are the same instructions I've always followed for setting hostname.02:52
smaudetjrib: http://goo.gl/ttE96u02:52
dr_willisHodapp:  not really seen anyone else have that issue. you may want to check askubuntu.com  i cant recall the last time i changed the hostname02:53
jribsmaudet: I think the check-config fails because rpcbind-boot fails to use http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#emits02:53
jribsmaudet: (testing)02:53
TNTSHey guys, how do I add a BIOS to PCSX02:53
HodappI suppose I could strace the hostname command and see WTF it is doing to figure out the hostname.02:54
smaudetjrib: I don't think so, the syntax for initctl is: initctl [op] [cmd] [op] arg02:54
jribsmaudet: yep, then upstart knows about the event.  But I doubt this is the real cause of the issue02:54
varunendraTNTS just copy the BIOS file in PCSX's BIOS directory, then choose it in its BIOS configuration.02:55
smaudetjrib: and --no-wait according to the man page is a valid option to the emit command02:55
jribsmaudet: add a line "emits start-rpcbind" after the "start on ..." line in your rpcbind-boot.conf02:55
smaudetjrib: ah ok misread02:55
jribsmaudet: you're not touching the emit line, you're adding "emits".  Yeah I missed it too at first02:55
TNTSvarunendra, where is its directory? I installed via the Software Center and I have no idea where it is02:55
jribsmaudet: this is probably a solution to *a* bug but I doubt it causes the errors we see on boot.  It will make check-config pass though02:56
smaudetit does02:57
smaudetpass that is02:57
smaudetwoot02:57
smaudetWe fixed 'a bug' lol02:57
varunendraTNTS, ".pcsx/bios" directory in your Home. It is a hidden directory, so you'll need to press Ctrl+H to be able to see it.02:57
smaudetstill doesn't start02:57
jribsmaudet: how are you testing?02:57
TNTSOh okay I got it thanks varunendra02:57
[[thufir]]1how do I know why unity isn't letting me click on icons as normal?  could it be a video card? I have the usual unity interface for 12.04 LTS, but can't use firefox properly.02:57
smaudetinitctl check-config02:57
smaudetand sudo start rpcbind-boot02:58
smaudetit doesn't error, but it stays in the stopped state02:58
jribsmaudet: are you on a fresh install or upgrade?02:58
smaudetjrib: I believe this is an upgrade from 10.04 days02:58
smaudetjrib: regularly updated, but its not 'fresh' by any means02:58
jribsmaudet: well this rpcbind-boot job doesn't really do anything other than emit that event (for portmap)02:58
smaudetjrib: the important thing would be to test if the rpcbind interface works02:59
smaudetthe .xpr could be a bogus error02:59
smaudetas I said rpcinfo seems to show...stuff...02:59
jribsmaudet: portmap.conf seems to actually "do things" with rpcbind02:59
smaudetI don't know what it is02:59
smaudetjrib: yeah and portmap is already running03:00
jribsmaudet: indeed « ps -ef | grep rpcbind » is running03:00
thanigaivarunendra: yes configured03:00
smaudetjrib: this actually might be the fix to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpcbind/+bug/92459303:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 924593 in rpcbind (Ubuntu) "rpcbind silently breaks when restarted" [Undecided,New]03:00
smaudetjrib: I.e. I can stop/start my portmap at will03:01
jribsmaudet: rpcinfo -p localhost  output for you?03:01
[[thufir]]1how can I test my hardware, video in particular?  can't really google at the moment.03:01
varunendrathanigai, if the network type, plan and APN are correct, and the modem itself doesn't disappear after the error, it may be an issue at the ISP's end.03:02
SupaYoshiso no way to shutdown a USB printer from ubuntu? :D03:02
jribsmaudet: i get a bunch of output about portmapper and status (this differs from the bug report)03:02
SupaYoshiMy printer is a Saasung CLP325.. laser printer03:02
smaudethttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6073150/03:02
SupaYoshiit'd be nice if it went off during the night.03:02
[[thufir]]1why would it be that I cannot highlight text in the console?  I can click on *some* things.03:03
smaudetportmapper, status, '-', and nfs03:03
smaudetand whatever nlockmgr is03:03
smaudetYeah I can start/stop portmap regardless of that line in the config03:04
jribsmaudet: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpcbind/+question/18532003:04
thanigaivarunendra: actually it works windows os03:04
varunendraSupaYoshi, with the models I've used so far, there was no 'Need' to turn it off :). And I have used Samsung's SCX4300 and 320003:04
smaudetjrib: looks like there's an upstream patch for the .xdr03:06
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varunendrathanigai, does the modem remain active? Are you able to attempt the connection again (after the error) from NetworkManager's drop down menu? Without re-plug or anything like that.03:06
smaudetGonna patch, restart, and let you know how it goes03:06
SupaYoshiwhy is that no  need?03:06
SupaYoshiit consumes power. rihght?03:06
jribsmaudet: wait, what patch?03:06
smaudetjrib: comment #403:06
[[thufir]]182915G/GV/910GL integrated graphics controller VGA controller integrated graphics controller.  how can I test this hardware?03:06
smaudetFixed in debian03:06
jribsmaudet: see #6 though03:07
smaudetlooks like they're just time stamps03:07
SupaYoshicosts me around 2 dollars a month.03:07
SupaYoshi= 24 dollars  a yr cus its on 24/703:07
ccchipsDoes anyone know if Nvidia and low-latency kernel work together on 13.04 yet?03:07
smaudetjrib: hmm, well one comment over another comment03:07
varunendraSupaYoshi, yes, but in milli (perhaps micro) watts. It consumes huge amounts of power (equivalent to a month's sleep state) when starting up (laser printers) - to heat the heater.03:07
smaudetonly one way to find out what's right, find the source!03:07
jribsmaudet: I would see what these files are used for03:07
SupaYoshiok03:08
jribsmaudet: you're reading http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645880 ?03:08
ubottuDebian bug 645880 in rpcbind "Cannot open '/var/run/rpcbind/rpcbind.xdr'" [Normal,Fixed]03:08
SupaYoshithat case im off to bed03:08
SupaYoshi:P03:08
SupaYoshitc03:08
varunendra:)03:08
FloodBot1SupaYoshi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:08
varunendraGood night SupaYoshi03:08
smaudetjrib: yup03:08
ChogyDanccchips: what's the low latency for?03:08
thanigaivarunendra: yes after the error i can see the connection name03:09
smaudetand yes my rpcbind is running with -w, looking up now03:09
jribsmaudet: just keep in mind the patch there isn't really relevant on ubuntu03:09
varunendrathanigai, but does the NM try to connect again if you click the name?03:09
loculinuxhola03:09
jribsmaudet: well, not directly applicable anyway03:09
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wilee-nilee[[thufir]]1, No left click highlighting?03:09
thanigaivarunendra: yes , but every time the same error03:09
smaudetjrib: it looks like it is 'correct' if /run isn't cleaned out, so the real bug is somewhere in rpcbind's source code03:10
wilee-nileeor double clicking [[thufir]]103:10
jgkhey all03:10
TNTSOkay this is another one I read just now, Linux 3.11 is out. Should I upgrade Ubuntu 13.04?03:10
smaudetSince the intent is as a statefile03:10
smaudet#6's comment makes sense in light of it being useless other than getting it to shut up03:10
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wilee-nileeTNTS, wont be supported here in raring is all.03:10
jgkhi all03:11
Anonynimityany idea on how I would change my ip address every x seconds?03:11
DeWitt_7hiya03:11
varunendrathanigai, what is your ISP, and what APN. Maybe I can offer more help if you are in India.03:11
TNTSwilee-nilee, what do you mean?03:12
dr_willisTNTS:  you mean the 3.11 kernel? thats  in 13.10 i notice03:12
wilee-nileeTNTS, An actual distro upgrade would bring you to the development also only supported in #ubuntu+103:12
smaudetjrib: at any rate, thanks for your help, I can rest easier knowing that I don't have some terrible backdoor on my system for hackers to exploit (at least not with rpcbind)03:12
jribsmaudet: heh, sure03:12
jribsmaudet: I was kind of curious about that error anyway03:13
smaudetjrib: well I've got an apparmor error as well that needs fixing, that one, could be serious03:13
thanigaivarunendra: ISP is airtel  and APN is airtelgprs.com i am also in india03:13
smaudetrpcbind just sounded like "remote procedure call" from Windows03:13
[[thufir]]1why would unity let me scroll some windows with the mouse wheel, click on some icons but not others, etc?  I cannot google...03:13
smaudetWill submit a patch for it anyways if I can find the appropriate product.03:14
wilee-nilee[[thufir]]1, Have you modified compiz?03:14
Anonynimitynvm, I found it. :)03:14
varunendrathanigai, I'm on the same network (airtelgprs.com). They usually provide good service, but from last month, I'm getting terrible speeds. Is the speed fine on windows?03:15
[[thufir]]1wilee-nilee: no, it just happened all of sudden.  I couldn't click on firefox tabs,etc.  then I had to reboot.  now it doesn't work consistently.03:15
[[thufir]]1wilee-nilee: what could it be with compiz?03:15
varunendrathanigai, is it a GPRS plan or 3G?03:16
[[thufir]]1I'm download xubuntu-desktop to try that in a sec.  if it's compiz, will that work as a work-around?03:16
thanigaivarunendra: i am also having  network connection speed issue from last month03:16
cappicardgood evening. i upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. I still have to run "sudo killall pulseaudio" to get pulseaudio to pick up my audio device after start up.03:16
smaudetYup the offending code is in warmstart.c03:16
wilee-nilee[[thufir]]1, Compiz is the desktop manager, you might look up resetting the unity desktop and or compiz for your release. Really for help you need to be specific IE what icons...etc03:16
thanigaivarunendra: gprs sir03:16
cappicardit's on my toshiba satellite c655-s5082 notebook. it has an intel hda audio chip03:17
[[thufir]]1I can't look things up because I can't click in firefox.  for instance, I can click on the pidgin icon in the panel, but can't click on the "room" icons in pidgin.  so, I'm using finch.   stuff like that.03:17
varunendrathanigai, I heard the 3G license of Airtel expired (can't confirm though). Probably that's the reason for the speed troubles. But I have no connectivity issues.03:18
varunendrathanigai, which modem are you using?03:18
thanigaivarunendra: visiontex 3g usb modem bought from bsnl03:19
smaudetjrib: the 'patch03:19
smaudetin comment #4 on the ubuntu bug is entirely incorrect however03:19
[[thufir]]1wilee-nilee: clicking on the firefox icon works, but I can't click on tabs.  I can type in the console, but not in the firefox search box.03:19
smaudetthey store some struct information03:19
cappicardmy notebook has the intel hda chipset. alsa says CX2058503:20
wilee-nilee[[thufir]]1, desktop or laptop?03:20
crystallineAnyone know how to get the temp of their amd FX cpu? xsensors says 21c which has to be wrong, it's 23c in my room03:20
[[thufir]]1wilee-nilee: desktop.  12.04LTS.  it's a "used" computer.03:20
varunendrathanigai, LOL, I also have the BSNL's modem, although the micromax model - unlocked. Please paste the output of "lsusb" in the pastebin, and give us its link. I'll see if there are any known issues with your model.03:21
wilee-nilee[[thufir]]1, It sounded like you have rebooted to see if things change, and that is not always working correctly is this correct?03:21
varunendra!pastebin | thanigai03:21
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[[thufir]]1wilee-nilee: yes, when things started acting weird, I did ctrl-alt-del to logout.  however, I wasn't able to use the mouse to restart the pc!  so, I rebooted with REISUB.  same sort of problem.03:22
wilee-nilee[[thufir]]1, If it were me I would make another user to see if this all mirrors the same in that account.03:22
[[thufir]]1wilee-nilee: ahhh, good idea.  when I do that, how do I grant them sudo, by the way?03:23
thanigaivarunendra: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6073192/03:23
[[thufir]]1wilee-nilee: could this be a bad video card?03:23
wilee-nilee[[thufir]]1, I believe even in that user app to make users you have the option to grant them admin.03:23
TNTSIs there a date announced for the release of 13.10?03:24
varunendrathanigai, for reference, the number to be dialled is "*99#". You can confirm it in the NM settings. (number *99#, APN airtelgprs.com, network type depends on area, mine is set to "Any")03:24
[[thufir]]1wilee-nilee: and do you think it could be hardware?  or, is that unlikely.03:24
wilee-nileeTNTS, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule03:26
thanigaivarunendra: both settings are same as you mentioned03:26
TNTSThanks wilee-nilee03:26
wilee-nilee[[thufir]]1, Not sure, kinda a guess at this point I would try the new user or a live cd.03:26
[[thufir]]1ok, thanks.  back in a bit :)03:27
smaudetI'm going to go ask in #debian but it looks like the patch might be as simple as putting the .xdr files in another (permanent) directory?03:27
smaudetjrib: can you think of any reason why this might be a bad idea?03:27
wilee-nileeTNTS, generally the OS numbers are the release date reversed.03:27
jribsmaudet: I don't know what those files are used for; so I don't know03:27
TNTSThat's awesome! I did not notice that. Gosh, Ubuntu is a simpler than Windows than I thought03:28
varunendrathanigai, and your modem model seems to be an old one (from 2009 or earlier), so should be well supported at hardware level. I suspect the ISP more now. What is your version of Ubuntu? 32 or 64 bit?03:29
smaudetjrib: well again I'll have to ask in debian but there doesn't seem to be anything special about /run so I presume its just a bad directory choice03:29
thanigaivarunendra: it is Ubuntu variant  linux mint 32 bit03:30
harristhe flash player privacy box wion't let me select allow03:30
jribsmaudet: i would try to understand why rpcbind throws errors when it can't find those files03:30
reisioharris: go to full screen and then exit out of it03:31
harrisf11?03:31
smaudetjrib: yeah that's what I'm doing03:31
varunendrathanigai, I believe it is an ISP issue, not a driver, application or configuration one. You should try the forums (mint or ubuntu) to see if someone has had similar issue and they solved it.03:31
harrisreisio, im trying to set up rosetta stone with microphone it wont let me click allow03:32
harrisin the adobe flash settings03:32
dr_willisfullscreen the flash window, then try again03:33
reisiothe flash object itself, fullscreen03:33
harrishow do i do that03:33
dr_willisdo it with any flash video03:33
harrisit isnt video im trying to let a website use my microphone03:33
harrisits asking for promission03:33
dr_williscommon bug not being able to click on the flash setting  widets - unless its fullscreened.  there may be other work arounds03:34
dr_willisPlay a video.. set it full screen.. set the settings03:34
thanigaivarunendra:  i will do it. nice chat with you. thank you sir.03:34
reisioI think it's just that fullscreening makes it work03:34
dr_willisis how ive seen it done03:34
reisiobut I haven't done it in ages03:34
varunendrathanigai, np :)03:34
harrisdr_willis, any youtube?03:34
dr_willissame here reisio  ive not needed it since the pink youtube disaster03:34
SchrodingersScatnot using flash sounds better03:34
dr_willisharris:  try it and see03:34
reisioheheh03:35
reisiothe um03:35
reisiothe blue nvidia thing for me?03:35
reisioyou can do it all without using Flash03:35
reisiothere's a config file03:35
reisiobut I don't remember where it is03:35
FloodBot1reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:35
harrisi think i got it03:35
reisioFloodBot1: I like apples03:36
harrisno i clicked allow then remember but it still wont work03:37
reisiojust click around03:37
reisiohang on, I have some instructions for you03:37
reisioharris: http://xkcd.com/627/03:37
harrisso just follow that chart?03:39
gnuvinceQuick question about ~/.xsession; can you use xset inside it?  I have a line `xset b off` meant to disable X beeping, but it seems that line doesn't do anything, because when I open xterm and press backspace, my laptop beeps at me quite loudly.03:39
harrisreisio, it says to ask for help03:39
smaudetreisio: XD03:39
reisioafter 30 minutes :)03:39
smaudetharris: try Google Chrome03:40
smaudetit has the latest flash player installed03:40
smaudetmight work better03:40
reisiognuvince: you using ordinary Ubuntu with Unity?03:40
harrisi did03:40
gnuvincereisio: Lubuntu03:40
harrisi tried both03:40
smaudetharris: no dice eh03:40
TNTSWhat PSX emulator would you guys recommend? PCSX doesn't seem to work well..03:40
smaudetdid you try the fullscreen trick then?03:40
dr_willisi thought f11 fullscreened flash03:40
reisiognuvince: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Autostart03:40
smaudetdr_willis the browser i think, not flash03:41
reisioTNTS: epsxe?03:41
smaudetdr_willis: full screen flash is a flash api call, I don't think there's a keyboard shortcut03:41
reisioTNTS: yes03:41
smaudetI've programmed in it before...03:41
TNTSreisio, through Wine or the Linux copy?03:41
dr_willisi always use some binary hex edit the flash stuff to tweak it guide. ;) to make fash stay fullscreened on my 2nd monitor ;P03:41
smaudetSo I should know, unless they changed something03:41
reisioTNTS: the native version, why not...03:41
smaudetdr_willis: heh well then I suspect you have no problems ;)03:42
TNTSHow would I execute it reisio?03:42
reisiodr_willis: just the 2nd monitor?03:42
reisioTNTS: uh, by running its executable, like any program?03:42
TNTSWell it doesn't open up.03:42
dr_willisreisio:  yea it makes it where it fullscreens on the 2nd monitor and does NOT unfullscreen when im doing work on the first monitor03:42
reisioTNTS: run it from a terminal03:42
smaudetharris: dr_willis is right though you might be able to find a hex-edit guide to hacking the flash into shape03:42
reisiodr_willis: with a single X session? Fancy03:42
smaudetharris: you just need to insert a couple lines of code and you should have fullscreen flash :P03:43
dr_willisi do belive ive seen some ff extensions that make flash auto fullscreen also. but  that may  be with some sites03:43
reisioI think I'd just use... an undecorated browser window03:43
smaudet(JK, don't try it unless you know what you're doing)03:43
harrishold on posting screen shot03:43
reisioor something like youtube-viewer03:43
dr_willisreisio:  its a single 1 character edit of one of the flash binary files. ;)03:43
reisiodr_willis: link? :)03:43
reisioprobably won't ever use it, but I collect trivia :D03:44
dr_willisreisio:  i alwyas have to search for it on omgubuntu or webupd803:44
reisioawe03:44
harrishttp://imgur.com/8tcl7D403:44
dr_willistheres also a flash resizer exgtension that can force videos to be bigger if they wont fullsfreen. and a lights-out extension to blacken the rest of the browser/web site when watching a video03:44
smaudethttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/ubuntu-multi-monitor-tweaks-full-screen.html03:44
smaudetplugins and flash hacks ;)03:45
dr_willisi tend to just use the flash-downloader tools ;)03:45
smaudetDisclaimer; not tested, not recommended ;)03:45
dr_willisbut ive not seen any that work on hulu yet.03:45
harrisdr_willis, if you look at the screenshot you will see it is not a video03:45
smaudetharris: doesn't matter03:46
reisiohrmmm03:46
reisioI wonder if juju will put these sites out of business :p03:46
smaudetif the flash runtime can be tricked into fullscreening03:46
dr_willistheres flash game-resizer/fullsfreen forcer extensions also03:46
[[thufir]]dr_willis: well, no better.  it's strange, when I get to grub I can use arrows to go up and down, but pressing "e" doesn't let me edit the entry. It's like the mouse, some stuff works, other doesn't.  I mean, it "acts" like the "e" key doesn't work, or that the mouse button doesn't work.  but I can click on users and stuff, or type "e" here, but can't use mouse/key correctly.03:46
smaudetthen maybe your box will work03:46
smaudetof course the box is just a single hex feild somewhere as well03:46
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smaudetso you could always hack the flash file to hell and back...03:46
smaudetagain, not that I recommend it.03:46
* smaudet next up, memory editing with gdb! (JK)03:47
Guest14578hi, i am running pear os 7 and the setting for startup applications graphical interface is not available on this system.  Is there a way I can manually set an application to run on startup or install another application to do this process for me?03:47
[[thufir]]from safemode, how do I mount the filesystem in root to use apt-get?03:47
[[thufir]]dr_willis: I also got messages about being in low graphics mode.03:47
harrisguys i have a test to study for and NEED the mic03:48
TNTSreisio, I tried running it from terminal and here's what I got "./epsxe: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"03:49
smaudetharris: try the suggestions, not that we recommend any of them. My recommendation; don't use flash. Sorry =/03:49
reisioTNTS: I'd start with duckduckgo.com03:49
dr_willisharris:  check askubuntu.com perhaps03:49
smaudetharris: best of luck with your test03:50
dr_willisall i know are fixs that have worked for other flash issues03:50
trismTNTS: are you on amd64? might need libgtk2.0-0:i38603:50
dr_willisits a known flash issue that you cant click on the contriols/buttons unles the flash player is fullscreened. and adobe dosent care to fix the problem. ive also heard that if you hold down the RIGHT mouse button and try clickont on the buttons with the Left mouse button. it can sometimes work03:51
TNTStrism, yep03:51
dr_willisive also heard if you use a  different window manager.. sometimes you can click on the flash controll buttons..03:51
smaudetharris: some real world advice; keep an Windows XP VM lying around for when you have a critical application that you need to get working, which just won't work.03:52
smaudetharris: the unfortunate truth is not everything plays nicely with Ubuntu.03:53
smaudetharris: but again, try what dr_willis suggests, you might get lucky03:53
cappicardlooks like i finally found a workaround for my cx20585 audio codec. Simply putting "killall pulseaudio" into /etc/rc.local works a treat. :)03:53
[[thufir]]dr_willis: any thoughts03:53
smaudetharris: you might be able to find XP vms running in the cloud too03:54
smaudeti.e. open up a web-browser and use a windows xp box03:54
harrisim just gonna use tablet ty though03:54
smaudetyup03:55
smaudetAndroid/iOS are a handy backup.03:55
TNTSOkay how do I install libGTK 2.0-i386?03:55
smaudetOf course if I ever get around to fixing more bugs in shumway we might be able to do away with flashplayer entirely someday.03:56
smaudetAt least I expect that to be working before wine runs all windows programs03:56
trismTNTS: sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i38603:56
reisioTNTS: ask apt-file03:57
harrissmaudet, and its government version so the app wont even work03:59
smaudetharris: WindowsXP VM then04:01
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LinuxGoldon ubuntu 13.04 I get the error in console i2c i2c-3: sendbytes: NAK bailout. message04:04
LinuxGoldrunning kernel 3.11.0-99604:04
wilee-nileeLinuxGold, That kernel is not supported here for use in 13.04 technically.04:05
LinuxGoldalright.04:05
[[thufir]]I'm in safemode.  When I try to install packages it says that I have held or broken packages.  From the command line, how do I fix the updates?04:10
TNTSThanks Tristam04:11
TNTSWhoops04:11
TNTSMy bad04:11
LinuxGoldapt-get -f install?04:12
TNTSOkay something weird is happening. The software updater is randomly doing checks.04:13
infinituxis there a console app that can scan for any kind of physical hardware problems the system might have?04:17
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amp1i have xubuntu installed and am getting a pop up window with upgrade choice to ubuntu 13.04 ...will i be able to retain the xfce desktop if i upgrade or will it shift to unity?04:18
Guest82577ANY GIRL HERE..04:24
c_smithGuest82577, dude, is that even needed in a support channel?04:26
QwertyKbAre packages for Plasma Active 4 available?04:31
tannji_blI just did a software update in 13.04...  and it seemed to break unity and/or enlightenment.  it lets me logins?, but then the desktop is black with no gui. Has anyone seen this happen in the past few day04:33
Dr_Willismake a new user - see if they have the same issue04:34
tannji_blDr_Willis, got a link?  I dont know how to do that from cli....04:35
Dr_Willissudo adduser billgates04:35
tannji_blDr_Willis,  ah.  thsudo, correct?at will be a reg user who has to use04:36
c_smithDr_Willis, I see what you did there. XD04:37
wilee-nileetannji_bl, Do you have a proprietary graphic driver installed?04:37
tannji_blDr_Willis, sorry, on crappy laptop glitching keyboard04:37
tannji_blDr_Willis,  yep, of course I have prop. vid drivers that took me months to install  = )04:38
tannji_bloop, wilnee  = )04:38
NewWeekhi all04:38
wilee-nileetannji_bl, from the manufacturer directly?04:39
tannji_blwilee-nilee, if I have the prop. drivers, will the new user still be borqued?04:39
Dr_Willisif its a user setting issue - the new user may work04:40
TNTSHow do I stop the Software Updater from randomly popping up?04:40
wilee-nileetannji_bl, manufacturer drivers may not follow kernel updates and upgrades we had one yesterday I believe.04:40
tannji_blwilee-nilee,  I believe that I downloaded direct from ATI, yes...  but it has been a while04:40
Dr_Willisit will point us in th right way to go to find the issue04:40
wilee-nileetannji_bl, I would follow the DR's advice though.04:40
tannji_blwilee-nilee,  yepper, trying now04:41
dwarderanyone uses hetzner collocation?04:41
dwarderor virtual server?04:41
wilee-nilee!anyone | dwarder04:41
ubottudwarder: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.04:41
dwarderupon installing anything (apt-get install whatever) i have this 0% [Connecting to mirror.hetzner.de  , and it wait for 5 mins or so, then it downloads, should i change my repos?04:42
Ben64yes04:43
dwarderto what?04:43
Dr_Willismay as well try :)04:43
Ben64default ubuntu ones, maybe a closer country04:43
dwarderdefault germany repos04:43
dwarder?04:43
dwarderwhere do iget them?04:43
tannji_blDr_Willis, the new user has the same black desktop after logging in...04:45
[[thufir]]in failsafe mode, failsafeX brings up a dialog about low graphics mode and then exits (poorly).04:47
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[[thufir]]I'm in Ubuntu 12.04LTS and want to install packages, but says I have held packages.  I read man apt-get, but don't see how to fix that.04:48
Guest7127hi guys, I did the system testing thing and failed: cpu/offlining_test with the comment "Beginning CPU Offlining Test Offlining cpu1"04:49
Guest7127any ideas on what this means?04:49
benkillintypie typie `apt-get install aptitude; aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade;` maybe that might work [[thufir]] aptitude is a little more helpful for things like that but sometimes I find it annoying04:49
Guest7127[[thufir]] what packages are you trying to install?04:49
[[thufir]]Guest7127: I want to remove and re-install unity.  I removed it, but it's blocked.04:50
Guest7127what are you typing in to reinstall it?04:50
wilee-nilee[[thufir]], unity is the ubuntu desktop and a meta package.04:50
[[thufir]]before I had problems, I turned off updates and upgrades through the GUI, so something about that is disabled, I think.  I'm not sure how to re-enable it.04:50
Dr_Willistannji_bl:  but the Login screen (graphical) works correctly?04:51
Guest7127not sure if that would matter about installing packages04:51
tannji_blDr_Willis, yessir04:51
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]:  try a good old  'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?04:51
CrAcKeR0101hi04:51
[[thufir]]Guest7127: well, maybe not, but I'd like to try.  I'm thinking the graphics card is bad, but I'd at least like to try that.04:51
Dr_Willistannji_bl:  that points to a driver issue witih your window manager. its possible a simpiler desktop may work . such as xubuntu, or lubuntu04:52
[[thufir]]Dr_Willis: don't you have to upgrade before running dist-upgrade, I thought?04:52
Guest7127you should not have to run dist-upgrade04:53
Dr_Willisif you did the apt-get update  recently you dont need to rerun update. dist-upgrade is a mor eintensive upgrade04:53
wilee-nilee[[thufir]], dist-upgrade is not a distro upgrade04:53
[[thufir]]ok, back in a bit.  (I have to log out of IRC to run those commands)04:53
tannji_blDr_Willis,  there wouldnt be a simple way to roll back the update?  = )04:53
Dr_Willisi never go back.. always move forward ;)04:54
Guest7127try running 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' and if you do not have unity installed and want that then I am assuming 'sudo apt-get install unity' should work - right guys?04:54
tannji_blDr_Willis,  this is why I have trouble convincing people to come back and try linux, lol04:54
Guest7127oh, he is gone04:54
wilee-nileeunity is the ubuntu desktop04:54
Dr_WillisGuest7127:  for the full ubuntu desktop you may want the 'ubuntu-desktop' package04:54
Dr_Willistannji_bl:  the same people that are still using windows vista?04:55
tannji_blno, they are probably still on XP, because they have used it for 10 years without breaking. lol04:55
Guest7127Dr_Willis, he said he uninstalled unity. not sure what that exactly means but I think he should have the rest of what encompasses ubuntu-desktop04:55
Guest7127hi guys, I did the system testing thing and failed: cpu/offlining_test with the comment "Beginning CPU Offlining Test Offlining cpu1" - Any ideas on what this means?04:56
tannji_blDr_Willis,  what about changing driver to default?04:56
Dr_Willisubuntu-desktop will pull in unity and aything else he may have messed up/remived.. hopefully04:57
Guest7127oh i see04:57
wilee-nileethe psychocats website has the full mets list for 12.04's ubuntu desktop04:58
wilee-nileemeta*04:58
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[[thufir]]in recovery console, as root, I can install packages, right?  It says:  cannot install , depneds lib unity cord 5.0b ut 5.18 is to be installed.  error: you have held or broken packages.  this is after running update,upgrade dist-upgrade in apt-get05:00
Guest7127[[thufir]], are you sure you are connected to the internet?05:01
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GeorgeTorwellis bazhang still an op in here or did canonical exercise some better judgement finally05:01
[[thufir]]Guest7127: I hope so :)  I'm talking to *someone*.  I pinged google, yes. and, in recovery console, enabled networking.05:01
LinuxGold[[thufir]]: apt-get -f install ?05:02
LinuxGoldit should install files required for that package05:02
[[thufir]]I did the -f before, yes, I don't recall exactly, but I thin it was the same error.  I would have to logout of IRC to check again.05:03
Guest7127lol just making sure. One thing I could never figure out was how to connect to the net via terminal alone. knowing how would have saved me a number of reformats after I broke something05:03
LinuxGold'apt-get -f install' the whole line right?05:04
Guest7127I did the system testing thing and failed: cpu/offlining_test with the comment "Beginning CPU Offlining Test Offlining cpu1" - Any ideas on what this means?05:04
[[thufir]]LinuxGold: I'll go try again.  back in a moment.05:04
Guest7127anyone?05:04
Dr_Willisits not to05:05
Dr_Willisoo hard to get wifi going via the cli05:05
[[thufir]]gold:  same result with -f switch to install unity.05:06
crystallineWhat ubuntu distro has the best 3d performance? lxde/kde/gnome/unity I want to do 3D work on linux05:06
Guest7127[[thufir]] what is the exact message you get back when you try?05:07
[[thufir]]held or broken packages.  I have to write it down, but it was that libunity core 5.05 was required (?) but 5.18.0... is to be installed.  error: you have held broken packages.  (message seems backwards).  12.04LTS05:08
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]:  the disrto or desktop really wont matter.  its what3d drivers  anc chipset you have that matters05:08
[[thufir]]ah, yes, I think the graphics card bit the dust (but don't know how to test that).05:09
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, did you mean crystalline?05:09
crystallineI think he did... although I remember an old article said otherwise http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1210beta_desktops&num=105:10
[[thufir]]in the meantime, I'd like to perhaps switch over to xubuntu?05:11
Dr_Williscrystalline:  if you run the most minimal window manager you can.. you got more resources for your 3d app. baically05:11
crystallineDr_Willis:  Ehh it's more about things being done well than how big things are.05:11
Dr_Williscrystalline:  the desktops that are allready using the 3d gfx part of your video card will be putting some load on the gpu allready05:12
Dr_Williscrystalline:  what app are you using to do '3d work' ?05:12
crystallineMayaand Blender05:12
Dr_Willisyou dont even have to run a desktop if you dont want to. just a simple windowq manager05:12
Guest7127So this will be the last time I ask this, just hoping someone here knows what it means: I did the system testing thing and failed: cpu/offlining_test with the comment "Beginning CPU Offlining Test Offlining cpu1" - Any ideas on what this means?05:13
Dr_Willisofflineing = being able to turn the thing on/off on the fly?05:14
[[thufir]]how can I switch to xubuntu?  It's installed, but on boot it still *tries* to go into unity.  because of the graphics card problem, I can't seem to click the icon to switch over.  so, how can remove unity as an option?  Just so I can get into firefox/google/etc for now.05:14
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]:  you have it set to auto login?05:14
Guest7127humm, I see. is it possible to do that?05:14
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]:  if not - the login screen should have some pulldown menu05:14
crystalline[[thufir]]:  I use gdm to select my desktops05:14
Dr_WillisGuest7127:  on BEOS you could. ;)  i recall seeing it done. not sure why you would need to05:14
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]:  your users .dmrc file defines their default desktop also05:15
[[thufir]]no, I click the user to login.  there's a pulldown menu, but, because of this weird graphics problem, I can't select all icons. I can click users, but can't click the pulldown menu for choosing unity/xubuntu/etc.05:15
xtrizi have downloaded a source package, now how can i install that package such that all the dependency of that package is automatically satisfied.05:15
Dr_Willisin .dmrc --->   Session=xubuntu05:15
[[thufir]]Dr_Willis: thanks, back in a bit :)05:15
Dr_Willistesting out xubuntu right now. havent tried it in ages. ;)05:16
Dr_Willisbeen using lubuntu lately. but its a bit awkward in some areas05:16
crystallineDr_Willis: Nothig has changed lol05:16
crystallinexfce is a smaller(and not dead) gnome2... although mate is gnome205:17
Dr_Willisages as in 3+ years - so yea a lot has changed. ;)05:17
Dr_Willisim also compareing it to lubuntu -05:17
crystallineWas lubunut even alive 3 years ago lol05:17
LinuxGoldolvwm05:18
Guest7127Thanks for your response Dr_Willis. I dont think I am going to worry about failing that portion of the system test...05:18
Dr_WillisGuest7127:  i doubt if it going to really matter much  ;)05:19
crystallineI wonder why Mint exists when there could simply be Mabuntu and Cinnabuntu... too bad there's no official mate/cinnamon ubuntu05:20
xtrizhow can i get the source code from the ppa that i am using ?05:21
crystallinedev packages?05:21
philluminatiDev package != source package05:22
[[thufir]]I edited the ?.gdm? file for xubuntu (xubuntu-desktop did install correctly) but it boots to "sort of" unity, with the unity background but no panel.  (unity is removed.) hmm, what else can I do?  currently in recovery mode.05:22
philluminatiDev package would typically contain just header files for building against a library05:22
philluminatiApt-get is the only way I know how get source code on Ubuntu05:23
philluminatiAptitude can't do it05:24
[[thufir]]xtriz: source code for the ppa itself?  or for the packages it installs?  and, why?05:24
Dr_Willis!source05:25
ubottuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html05:25
xtrizphilluminati, i am using apt-get source to get the source but i can't get exactly.05:25
crystallinewill 13.04 to 13.10 upgrading be safe? last time i did an upgrade instead of install I had soo many broken things05:25
xtriz[[thufir]], yeah source code for the ppa .05:25
xtrizcrystalline, it's safe till you are not using ppa, ppa has probability of breaking things.05:25
[[thufir]]xtriz: there's no source code for "a" ppa itself, it's just a configuration file.05:25
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]:  install a few other light desktops, or just window manages to see if you can select any in the lightdm login screen. if you installed the xubuntu-desktop package you should be able to select xubuntu05:25
crystallinextriz: Ya definately have to update ppa info before dist upgrading05:26
xtriz[[thufir]], then how can i get the source of the install pacakge of that ppa ? just sudo apt-get source and that package ?05:26
[[thufir]]xtriz: dr willis, or someone, gave you alink a minute ago on how to do that.05:27
Dr_Willis!source05:27
Dr_Willisthat one?05:27
[[thufir]]yup05:27
xtrizyeah :)05:27
Dr_Willisim not sure how the ppa's handle soruce.. cant say ive really needed to mess with the source05:27
crystallineIs there a list of ubuntus in terms of dev power?05:28
[[thufir]]probably, if you know the package, find the website for that project.  it's sure to be there, you can always use git.  which doesn't explain why you would want the source...?05:28
Dr_Willis'dev power' meaning?05:28
* [[thufir]] is just curious.05:28
crystallineTHe number of developers, manhours going in, etc.05:29
UnderSampled|phnHow do I switch back to the open source radeon drivers (from using fglrx) using the recovery shell?05:29
Dr_Willisi imagine unity/ubuntu is the tops. but i bet theres a lot of people diveing into that ubuntu touch. :) but its still a work in progress05:29
Dr_WillisUnderSampled|phn:  how did you install the fglrx drivers?05:29
UnderSampled|phnI used the ones available on the aid website05:30
crystallinexorg edgers = delicious evil closed drivers05:30
Dr_WillisUnderSampled|phn:  aid? ati? if you used the .run drivers.. then that .run driver i belive has a cli option to remove them05:31
crystallineUnderSampled|phn: Just install xorg edgers or stable from a repo, it'll write over your bad ones, usually05:31
UnderSampled|phnamd05:31
UnderSampled|phnwhat is edgers?05:32
Dr_Willisim not sure using the .run drivers, then just trying to use the repo drivers to overwrite them.. is a good idea. Best would be to uninstall them05:32
crystallineUnderSampled|phn: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa is beta drivers and https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates is old drivers05:33
[[thufir]]ok, I'm in console mode with at least multiple consoles now :)  I removed compiz and installed lightdm.  it gave me a message about "low graphics mode"05:33
Dr_Williswhy would you remove compiz? what desktop are you trying to use?05:34
[[thufir]]there are "funny" characters in pidgin chat program, around the console "window" border05:34
[[thufir]]Dr_Willis: anything. xubuntu would be fine.  not sure what else there is.05:34
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]:  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or lubuntu-desktop (try both  be dareing!) should work05:34
Dr_Willismay as well try 'sudo apt-get install jwm' while you are at it. ;) its about the smallest window manager ive seen05:35
KI7MTI like LXDE  .. nice and clean, few bugs though.05:35
[[thufir]]I did the first, I'll try lubuntu-desktop, too.  I tried startx just now.  jwm sounds good. thanks.05:35
Dr_Willisjwm is about as basic as it gets. ;)05:36
Dr_Williswithout going extreme in smallness/lightness. heh05:36
venus_hello05:36
Dr_Willis!info jwm05:36
ubottujwm (source: jwm): very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0+svn579-2 (raring), package size 110 kB, installed size 290 kB05:36
venus_can any one tell me how to use audio line  in for the audio line out as my audio out of sound card is broken which i can use in windows with Realtek HD audio manager05:37
Dr_Willisbbl05:38
[[thufir]]startx gives:  paste.ubuntu.com/6073489   (thank you pastebinit)05:38
venus_can any one tell me how to use audio line  in for the audio line out as my audio out of sound card is broken which i can use in windows with Realtek HD audio manager05:40
[[thufir]]cannot install all the desktops:  paste.ubuntu.com/607349205:41
xtrizi have downloaded a source package, now how can i install that package such that all the dependency of that package is automatically satisfied.05:41
philluminatiI'm using a phone but if you read the man pages for apt-get or aptitude there is a way to install just the dependencies05:42
philluminatiOr you can install the package and then remove it05:43
[[thufir]]xtriz: you can also download the source itself, and just build it.  what's the package?05:44
xtriz[[thufir]], i was building ubuntu-desktop05:45
[[thufir]]xtriz: ohhh.05:47
KI7MTxtriz, get-build-deps is the package you want. " get-build-deps is a script to install the build dependencies for either a local source package or one or more packages from the repositories."05:48
ddecontiexit05:48
[[thufir]]I ran dpk --configure -a and again tried to install the graphical desktops, but it still says "held broken packages" even with the -f flag.05:48
xtrizKI7MT, that's useful :)05:49
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Guest23913hi05:50
[[thufir]]from the console, should I be able to run "startx" to get a windows manager?  paste.ubuntu.com/607352605:51
xtriz[[thufir]], which graphical desktop are you installing ?05:52
[[thufir]]xtriz: one sec05:54
[[thufir]]xtriz: trying to install -f jwn lxde lubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop:  paste.ubuntu.com/607353305:56
pepper_chicoguys, I like to use my bash fullscreen, and I use multiple workspaces, but anyway I change back to a workspace with my fullscreen bash window, the top menu bar keeps over the bash windows, and it takes a bit to hide, or only after I clear the bash05:58
KI7MTwhy lxde and lubuntu-desktop, they are on in the same.05:58
pepper_chicois there a way to fix this? and get my fullscreen window aways on top?05:58
[[thufir]]heh, didn't know that.05:58
KI7MTwell I should say, lubuntu-desktop used LXDE  .. that's more accurate.05:59
pepper_chicothis top menu bar is really annoying sometimes05:59
KI7MTThe other thing is, why -f .. what is not installing that your trying to force ?06:00
xtriz[[thufir]], ok06:01
usr13three18ti: 13.04?06:02
usr13[[thufir]]: 13.04?06:02
usr13three18ti: Sorry, wrong nick.06:02
[[thufir]]KI7MT: yes, trying to force install because it doesnt' install.  12.04LTS06:02
KI7MTWhat specifically is "not installing" ?06:02
pepper_chicosad but I really don't get any help or comment from this channel ever...06:02
[[thufir]]I thought it was in the pastie.  I can go back and do one by one.06:02
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: what do you mean?06:03
[[thufir]]KI7MT: lubuntu-desktop fails to install with that error.06:03
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: did you re-ask your issue once in a while?06:03
usr13[[thufir]]: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core06:04
[[thufir]]pepper_chico: it's very noisy.  you have to not be rude, but every ?15? minutes try again.  use pastebin.com or something to give details.06:04
[[thufir]]usr13: thx06:04
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, never get any help, I post doubts but hardly get any response, this happened before, I got previous issue solved by trial and error or digging forums06:04
KI7MT[[thufir]], are you install just lubuntu-desktop first when yo get that error, e.g. sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop06:05
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: try what [[thufir]] tells you, giving as much details a spossible06:05
usr13pepper_chico: Here's how it works;  You ask questions, if someone knows an answer, they respond.06:05
usr13[[thufir]]: Is  "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core"   doing anything?06:05
pepper_chicoguys, I like to use my bash fullscreen, and I use multiple workspaces, but anyway I change back to a workspace with my fullscreen bash window, the top menu bar keeps over the bash windows, and it takes a bit to hide, or only after I clear the bash06:06
[[thufir]]usr13: paste.ubuntu.com/6073551 it seems endlessly recursive.06:06
KI7MTto install the full desktop, which is recommended, you want the top meta package, lubuntu-desktop06:06
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: can you screenshot that?06:07
usr13[[thufir]]: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-default-settings06:08
usr13[[thufir]]: cat /etc/issue #What does that say?06:08
[[thufir]]usr13: heh, one sec on that. tried to install:  paste.ubuntu.com/6073556 for where the recursion ends.06:10
[[thufir]]usr13: 12.04.2LTS  for the issue..?06:11
[[thufir]]\n \l at the end of that.06:11
[[thufir]]pepper_chico: you never describe what the *problem* is, what the outcome you want is. at least, not that I can read.06:12
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, this is a screenshot just after switching workspace, note the top menu bar over the fullscreen bash http://imgur.com/E3y6fht06:13
usr13[[thufir]]: sudo apt-get update06:14
pepper_chicoit keeps there after the switch, it may take long or not to hide06:14
[[thufir]]usr13: I already did that, I'll do it again.06:14
pepper_chicoit hides after a "clear"06:14
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: you mean the black bar from unity itself?06:14
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, yes06:15
LacaHi All,06:15
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: you cant hide this on fullscreen, this is the way unity works now06:15
usr13[[thufir]]: sudo apt-get autoclean06:15
LacaI'd like to ask some help regarding mkfifo06:16
KI7MTYep was goign to say that. sounds like a clean is needed.06:16
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, it hides, after I type "clear"  goes aways06:16
LinuxGoldshould apt-get autoremove work as well?06:16
pepper_chicos/aways/away/06:16
usr13[[thufir]]: sudo apt-get autoremove06:16
usr13LinuxGold: yes06:17
pepper_chicomy problem is that, it should never be there for a fullscreen window, it keeps over the text of the bash window, over the text on the first line06:17
pepper_chicowhich sometimes, hides text06:17
usr13[[thufir]]: Any luck?06:17
pepper_chicoand is completely annoying06:17
[[thufir]]usr13: no, same results.  I did that and more, I'll do the autoremove.  same error message as the script I pasted.06:18
KI7MTthere not the same, autoremove takes away pkgs that were installed and no longer needed, orphaned if you will,  where autoclean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files.06:18
usr13[[thufir]]: Yea, try autoremove06:18
LacaI'd like to controll an mplayer instance, and when I do it from a terminal after I've logged in, everything works fine, but when I put the commands into an init.d script, I can not write to the fifo .06:18
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: im not sure i completely understand you, but i think unity confuses you06:18
lgcHi. This is probably an old topic, but I just found out that my touchpad isn't working, either in Ubuntu or in Windows. I noticed that after a live boot. What gives?06:19
usr13I've  got to leave.... so...06:20
[[thufir]]nope, same result after autoremove (which removed a few packages)06:20
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, maybe you didn't understand, that's is not a global menu for a maximized window, my bash is fullscreen, and that top menu is a defect, because for fullscreen window it should be hidden06:20
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, just after putting a bash window in fullscreen, there no such top menu bar, it's just the fullscreen bash06:20
KI7MT[[thufir]], sudo sh -c "apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade;apt-get autoremove;apt-get autoclean"06:21
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, only when it looses focus, that annoying top menu shows up06:21
pepper_chicoand take a while to hide, or after I clear the bash06:21
wildc4rdjust had an internal error from module-init-tools 3.16-1ubuntu2, any ideas what this is or how to remedy it?06:21
KI7MTwildc4rd, paste-bin the error, maybe somebody can help with it if the know more about it.06:23
[[thufir]]KI7MT:  ok, I think I did all that, but I'll do it again.06:23
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: i dont understand where your going mate, your pic shows black top panel 'terminal' fullscreen and terminal text going under it...whats the problem now?06:24
KI7MT[[thufir]], after that, sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop06:25
wildc4rdKI7MT, where will I find the log please, I can't copy from the error screen06:25
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, can you see that that top menu is cutting text, that's because it's over the text, like when you enable auto-hide for the Launcher and sometimes it keeps over some window06:27
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, and then, hides afterwards06:27
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, my bash is on fullscreen state, it should take all the screen06:28
KI7MTwildc4rd, pass, depends on what's failing. what is failing and when is it failing ?06:28
pepper_chicoand it does, except when that top menu shows up06:28
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: thats what i wanna try telling you, you can fullscreen without top panel, thats how unity works now06:28
lotuspsychjecant06:28
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: the terminal text cutting, is text you scrolling above, acting normally06:29
pepper_chico..., but that top panel is not fixed06:29
[[thufir]]KI7MT: it still leads back to this:  (old pastie, but same thing)   paste.ubuntu.com/607355606:29
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: fixed in what way?06:29
pepper_chicoit pops up out of a defect06:29
pepper_chicoit's not part of the window06:29
pepper_chicoputting a bash into fullscreen06:30
pepper_chicoit does not show06:30
KI7MT[[thufir]], even with --no-install-recommends ?06:30
pepper_chicoI get a fullscreen bash06:30
[[thufir]]KI7MT: yes, the exact same error.06:30
pepper_chicothat thing shows, when I go to other workspace, and then back06:30
wildc4rdKI7MT, only seems to be module-init-tools 3.16-1ubuntu2, and only once at startup. next time I restart (could be a while) I'll get some further details and pastebin it. Thanks for the help.06:30
LacaHi all,06:31
Lacaany advice regarding mkfifo?06:32
[[thufir]]KI7MT: paste.ubuntu.com/6073619   for with --no-install06:32
KI7MTwildc4rd, module-init is a loader for the kernel, so could be  a bad module, path all sorts of things, let us know when ya got more info.06:33
pepper_chicolotuspsychje,  and that cutting of text is not normal, one common problem I face is when I'm on the first line, at the top of the screen, and then go to another workspace and the back, the top menu now covers my cursor, if I start typing I cannot even see what I'm typing because of the stupid menu that over the bash window06:34
KI7MT[[thufir]], drop the gnome-icon thing, we can deal with that separately.06:35
KI7MTAND, use sudo apt-get install. YOu should not be using root06:35
[[thufir]]KI7MT: oh, yeah, I don't care, it's just where it leads to.  I'm just using root at the moment because I'm running lotsa commands through it.06:36
KI7MTroot and sudo are two very different things on a sudo system.06:36
[[thufir]]heh, I mean, I don't care about the gnome-icon thing, it's just the thing that everyhting else seems to depend upon...ok, I'll try sudo.06:37
KI7MTLog out of the root account and into a normal user that is in the sudo user group.06:37
[[thufir]]KI7MT: ok.  I did that, and get the same error message about broken packages06:39
marloshousehow can i give a single network port two IP addresses, one static one dhcp, is that possible? (13.04 server)06:40
KI7MT[[thufir]],As SUDO user, not Roo, re=run:  sudo sh -c "apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade;apt-get autoremove;apt-get autoclean"  .. then ... sudo apt-get -f lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends06:41
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[[thufir]]KI7MT: ok.06:43
KI7MTmarloshouse, you can do it, technically, but you'll have routing problems. whay would you want both?06:43
marloshousewell, i guess i don't really need both, i just need a static ip on the box, i'll just do that.06:44
marloshousemy concern was i was remoting in to the box, and i didn't want to loose connectivity while i set up a static ip06:46
randmuserHello, is there any decent search tool for ubuntu 13.04? I used to run gnome-search-tool but it's not available through repositories.06:46
KI7MTmarloshouse, if you need static, easy enough, assign if from your router, or host files. DHCP not reallt the best option for server IP's, but for those being served IP's by the server, then yes DHCP is good.06:47
SticksHi all, I have Gnome 3 running on Ubuntu 13 and the menus aren't working in Kdenlive. They work fine in Unity. Why could this be happening?06:47
KI7MTrandmuser, what ya searching for?06:47
marloshouseyea, i'll have to just set up static from the head06:47
marloshousebut, what does one do when the box is headless?06:47
randmuserKI7MT: I want to search a folder i remotly connected to. If i search inside nautilus is start searching my local computer (and I dont like the fact that they give you very little on the result)06:48
KI7MTmarloshouse, use allot of terminal programs: Tasksel is your friend :-)06:48
marloshousetasksel?06:49
KI7MTopen terminal on your server, type sudo tasksel06:49
marloshouserandmuser, i use 'mc' when i'm in a terminal for searching for things06:49
marloshouseKI7MT, oh... my lookie there06:49
randmuserWell I used to be able to do this in gnome-search-tool, so why is ubuntu removing my features? Or are they avaiable somehow?06:50
randmuserMy workflow is way faster in a decent gui compared to terminal06:50
wilee-nileeSticks, gnome 3 is the desktop underneath unity, the fallback and the gnome shell, which might your be?06:50
wilee-nileeyours*06:50
wilee-nileekubuntu to some extent to I believe06:51
[[thufir]]KI7MT: it's still exactly the same error, about broken packages.  I ran all that from sudo06:51
KI7MT[[thufir]], man .. this one got me stuck too .. I suspect you have a corrupt cache or fail list, but not sure now that this root thing is there, maybe even permission issues.06:52
Stickswilee-nilee: I installed gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop similar to the instructions here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/gnome-3-8-ppa-for-ubuntu-gnome06:53
xtrizSticks, is that stable or there are bugs in gnome3 ?06:54
wilee-nileeSticks, 3.8 is a ppa and not technically supported here in 13.04, I tried it a little while ago and found it a bit problematic, it is in 13.10 howerver.06:54
[[thufir]]KI7MT: ok. on to other things!  I just want to startx.  I have xubuntu-desktop installed on 12.04LTS but startx doesn't work.  I *think* my graphics card bit the dust, but shouldn't I still be able to run something like that from the onboard graphics card?  I tried startx.06:55
KI7MT[[thufir]], I would think so, yes, but the whole not being able to install thing is an issue. Have you tried to install any other desktops ?06:56
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Stickswilee-nilee, xtriz: Cheers. It runs pretty well from my experience. This menu not working is the first problem I've really encountered with it. So I'm better off waiting for 13.10 and this might not be an issue?06:57
sponixAnyone in here used Ksplice and OpenVZ before ?06:57
[[thufir]]KI7MT: I installed, err, xubuntu-desktop and ??jvm?  something like that.06:58
xtrizSticks, by 13.10 they wll be using gnome3.8 tll i best remember.06:58
wilee-nileeSticks, The main point is that it is not supported here, so you may get help, it may take a long time, and it may be from people who are just willing to help without really knowing any real answer.06:58
KI7MT[[thufir]], so the original installation was with xubuntu-desktop and are you able to log in there?06:59
sponixDropping into this conversation late (Sorry) -- Sticks: What is the issue/problem ?06:59
wilee-nileeSticks, There is a #kdenlive channel however small user base on the channel says there it may take awhile, but an option.07:00
[[thufir]]KI7MT: no, it was 12.04LTS which was with unity.  I removed unity (foolishly) and cannot get xubuntu started.07:00
KI7MT[[thufir]], Oh man .. ok, just for info, how did you remove Unity ?07:01
steve_fiheya, anyone have any idea if there's decent drivers for the Intel GMA 3650 (PowerVR SGX 545) in 13.04 or 13.10?07:01
[[thufir]]apt-get purge unity07:02
Stickssponix: I'm running Kdenlive in Gnome 3.8 and the menu isn't responding. It appears, but clicking on 'File' for example does nothing.07:02
SticksCheers, wilee-nilee, I'll try there as well.07:02
UndrWatersteve_fi: embedded?07:02
steve_fiUndrWater, I think so, it's an Atom tablet, so my money is on yeah07:02
sponixSticks: You can't fix that ? Seems like a simple kill/respawn to me07:03
UndrWatersteve_fi: atom is not quite embedded...which tablet?07:03
LacaAnybody with knowledge of FIFOs?07:04
steve_fiUndrWater, Asus VivoTab ME400C and the Acer Iconia W3 8"07:04
sponixSticks: example in gnome(cough 2) you can ps ax|grep panel ... it shows gnome-panel as the process name, and a simple kill -9 gnome-panel forces it to respawn (forces updates to the panel too if you just installed a new program)07:04
KI7MTsteve_fi, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-linux-graphics-installer-version-1.0.207:05
steve_ficheers KI7MT  :)07:05
[[thufir]]am I running startx "correctly" to start xubuntu?  paste.ubuntu.com/607352607:05
sponixLaca: First-In-First-Out ?07:05
Lacayes.07:06
UndrWatersweet...still looking for something that easy for the igepv207:06
sponixLaca: Doing what, firewall rules ?07:06
Lacanot,07:06
sponixLaca: File Sockets ?07:06
Lacacontrolling an mplayer instance07:06
sponixLaca: Aww, not sure I would have gotten that with 10 guesses :P07:07
Lacamy problem is that when I do it from a terminal, after I've logged in, it works fine.07:07
KI7MT[[thufir]], normall is: sudo /etc/init.d/xdm stop / start, restart07:07
Lacabut if I put the initialization commands into an init.d script,07:07
Stickssponix: Cheers for that, but I'm not exactly following what you're saying.  ps ax|grep in terminal shows: 13752 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto panel07:07
Lacalater I can not write into the FIFO07:07
[[thufir]]KI7MT: thx07:08
Lacathe question is not related with the mplayer, but the FIFO itself.07:08
LacaI think.07:09
sponixSticks: "ps ax|grep panel" was to find your "*-panel" process name, then you "kill" it ;)07:09
sponixLaca: for fsck sake, just ask the question and we can see if anyone knows how to help07:09
path0gen^07:10
sponixSticks: issue is your panel (menu) isn't responding, riiight ?07:10
[[thufir]]I don't have /etc/init.d/xdm   to run startx07:10
sponix[[thufir]]: sorry about your bad luck07:10
KI7MT[[thufir]], that not be good, so sudo restart xdm is no joy ?07:11
LacaThe question is: after I create a FIFO in the init.d with mkfifo -m 0666 /tmp/audio.cmd, and later after logging in, I do an echo mute>/tmp/audio.cmd it is waiting infinitely or till ctrl-c.07:12
Lacawhy?07:12
KI7MTMaybe, if you didn't remove all of Ubuntum, the GDM is still there, sudo restart gdm07:12
iceroot_[[thufir]]: you are sure you mean gdm and noth lightdm? lightdm is the default since some releases07:12
[[thufir]]ok, thanks!07:13
[[thufir]]wait, should I use lightdm?07:13
KI7MT[[thufir]], normal is: sudo restart lightdm   second would be sudo restart gdm then xdm is all else fails.07:13
Stickssponix: Sure is. The problem now though is that searching for the panel process brings up nothing. Maybe it's called something else in 3.8?07:14
sponixSticks: You ever used "xkill" ?07:14
KI7MTiceroot_, he removed Ubuntu desktop, installed xubuntu desktop, and it's failing to install Lubuntu-desktop, Im kinda at the end on this one.07:14
KI7MThe can't get X to start up at all or lubuntu-desktop to install.07:15
sponixLaca: seems you are digging in pretty deep for this hour, think its a bit beyond me at the moment. What is your "Overall" goal you are using mplayer for (ripping/encoding ?) ?07:15
[[thufir]]it's probably precipitated by hardware problem.  yeah, it's unknown job for all those "start lightdm" et. al.07:15
Stickssponix: Nope. Is now the time?07:15
[[thufir]]KI7MT: thanks for giving the context.  (I'll buy you a virtual beer :)07:16
KI7MTYeah, single malt would do at this point :-)07:16
LacaI'd like to build a headless audio player controlled by a webpage on it.07:16
sponixSticks: "man xkill" ... you can simply run "xkill" in a terminal/console (whatever the kids call the command line these days). then point the magic X (skull&crossbones) at the Menu and Kicks its lily *ss ?07:16
UndrWaterLaca: ices?07:17
Lacaices?07:17
Stickssponix: Well that sounds fun. I'll try that.07:18
Lacasorry, don't understand...07:18
FlannelLaca: There's a few choices.  mpd is a popular one, it allows a variety of frontends, including some web page stuff.07:18
sponixLaca: Ices is a mp3/audio server .. Ya know, the pre-built type that doesn't require all this work07:18
FlannelLaca: ices is a source client for icecast, which is an audio streaming server07:18
sponixactually VLC has a lot of remote playing capability as well07:19
Lacaok, I'll give it a try! :)07:19
Flannelsponix: I don't think he wants "remote playing", just headless.07:19
sponixNever _used_ it, but the streaming can do large broadcast, started out by those damm college kids streaming their pirated movies back and forth ! ... Thank them ;)07:19
sponixFlannel: yeah, umm... I do tend to get carried away07:20
sponixSticks: you kill that troublesome menu yet ?07:21
LacaI don't want to stream media, but would like to play streamed ones and local files as well.07:21
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FlannelLaca: Any media player that provides a web frontend will work.  I'm sure there's a few.07:22
Stickssponix: It killed the Kdenlive program just fine, but did nothing for the menu. It's the Kdenlive menu that's buggered, not the Gnome menu.07:22
* sponix looks up Kdenlive to see WTF it is 07:22
LacaAs I have no X (ubuntu 12.04 server) I need media player without gui and x dependencies.07:23
KI7MTIt's a free open source vid editor ... or so the website says :-)07:23
sponixSticks: Awww.. I'm tracking a bit more now07:23
sponixSticks: you got a screen snap of what your menu looks like, and another of what it should look like ?07:23
sponixKI7MT: I'm so far behind the times I thought Kdenlive was another damm spin-off of ubuntu, like a LiveCD/DVD !07:24
KI7MTI had to go looky too, thought it was some sorta ThumbDrive spinoff :-)07:25
helmut_hi07:26
sponixSticks: program probably has a .kdenlive preferences directory to store its settings, chances are removing that will return the menu (and everything else about the program) back to the defaults07:27
KI7MT:-) If it's a smart program, it would.07:28
sponixmight be under .config/kdenlive as well07:29
ASHER1Hey07:30
sponixKI7MT: yeah, it looks fairly modern. Should follow the standards07:30
ASHER1hello07:30
ASHER1Hello07:30
KI7MTSeveral concerns, there UB/Debian sections says, Upgrade to Unstable, Use Root, Dist-Upgrade .. not so good those things.07:30
sponixKI7MT: You having an issue ?07:31
KI7MTOh no, not me ...07:31
Stickssponix: The menu's here: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v62/Sticks38/Screenshotfrom2013-09-07172852_zps36a1f492.png07:31
sponixGood, because after taking another leak its my bedtime07:31
venus_hello can anyone tell me how to use audio line  Blue for audio out as it is broken it work with realtek audio manager in windows but how to do this in ubuntu07:31
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SticksClicking on a menu item toggles the selected style of the item (it looks to pop out and highlight a bit) but doesn't drop open07:32
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sponixSticks: Was the Menu _Ever_ Working ? And if so, when was the last time it did, and what recent changes have been made ?07:34
Stickssponix: Never working. I've only recently installed the program. It works under the Unity environment, but not when I switch to Gnome.07:35
sponixSticks: Oh, now that my friend is odd. Have me stumped at this point07:37
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Stickssponix: It is odd. Thanks for trying!07:39
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KI7MTSticks, you may want to post in the Kdenlive or KDE desktop forums, they both seem fairly active on this app.07:40
sponixSticks: you can "ldd /path/to/kdenlive" to see what libraries it uses, make sure they are in the ld.so.conf path stuff07:41
sponixoutside of that, I'm at a loss :P07:42
SticksKI7MT, sponix: Cheers, I'll check those out.07:44
[[thufir]]for lightdm, when I look at lightdm.conf I don't want to use the unity greeter.  what can I switch that to for xubuntu or something like that?07:44
[[thufir]]also, the user session for lightdm.conf is ubuntu, can I make that xubuntu?07:45
KI7MTxdm if for xubuntu I believe need to run a verify that.07:45
KI7MTLightDM07:46
[[thufir]]thufir parse KI7MT fail tries to07:46
KI7MTsudo apt-get install lightdm lightdm-greeter-example-gtk07:46
karab44hello07:47
KI7MTsudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm07:47
karab44I have problem with wacom tablet. It works bad, it's very laggy07:47
[[thufir]]KI7MT: thx07:47
karab44It's a graphire bluetooth tablet07:47
KI7MTthen sudo stop gdm && sudo start lightdm  .. assuming you an install them all.07:48
ripthejacker!virtualbox07:48
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox07:48
ripthejacker!poll07:49
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.07:49
KI7MT4.2.16 also has a bad memory leak07:49
KI7MTVbox 4.2.16 that is.07:50
karab44of course there are such apps. Most of apps suffers of poor quality, unstability or lack of functionality. Don't say there are no worse or better  apps07:50
karab44I experience serious lag using wacom tablet. Is my i7 too slow?07:53
ripthejackerKI7MT: so which one do you use07:53
ikoniakarab44: visual lag ?07:54
vltHello. Which xserver pkg might be missing when I get error messages about missing a "xv adaptor for this display"?07:55
vltHow to find out which driver is used currently?07:55
karab44That's a good question. What kind of lags we distinguish? Hardly to say, but generally yes, I move pen and pointer moves with delay.07:55
viveksinghHai friends Today I switched to ubuntu07:56
dinohey hi07:56
karab44viveksingh: welcome07:56
viveksinghI am bored with windows .... But don't what to do after installing ubuntu07:57
ikoniakarab44: I suspect the problem is with your video card config, rather than your cpu/arch07:57
karab44ikonia: Yes, I am listening07:57
dinois there any way to access the process task-structure07:57
ikoniaprocess task structure ?07:57
viveksinghKarab44: can u please tell me the basic things what to do after installing ubuntu server07:58
ikoniakarab44: what video card do you have in this machine ?07:58
dinoyes process task structure07:59
ikoniadino: what do you mean ?07:59
karab44ikonia: GB 570GTX 1024 SuperOverclocked07:59
[[thufir]]whoot!  I ran "lightdm" from err, what's it called, console mode? it gave me an error about "limited graphics mode".  now, I'm in a messed up unity.  I can move the mouse around, but icons do not respond to clicks. well, some stuff does, but most does not.07:59
karab44viveksingh: it depends what exactly you want to do. If you want website install apache07:59
KI7MTripthejacker, Sorry, I was off reading, I use Vbox, 4.2.18 as of today, was merely stating, it had a bad bug.07:59
ikoniakarab44: ok, so it's possible you may need to use the nvidia xorg modules, or force use of the open nvidia xorg modules, depending on your current state07:59
ripthejackerKI7MT: have you used kvm?08:00
KI7MTKVM-IP ?08:01
[[thufir]]it's very weird.  I can put the mouse on things, they will hightlight.  I can rightclick, but not left click.  this happened literally, all of sudden earlier today.  assuming it's not the mouse, what could this be?08:01
karab44ikonia: It would be a great tutorial for me, educating myself about X system. Honestly :) . I am still confused about all these X, Xfree86, waylands, GLX, XGL and others... Maybe this task will cast some brightness to this area of my knowledge.08:01
ikoniakarab44: sadly, there is not real 'good' tutorial that I know of,08:02
ikoniakarab44: for your system - all you are interested in is "xorg", which is "X"08:02
ikoniakarab44: the question you need answering is 1.) what xorg module is your machine currently using 2.) what is the module you should be using 3.) what is the best way for me to set it08:03
[[thufir]]how can I reconfigure lightdm to just use xfce?  xubuntu-desktop?08:03
KI7MTX is is kinda like Kernel Code .. it's written in Wizard Code :-)08:03
karab44Does it have something to do with nvidia proprietary graphic drivers?08:03
Aku506Hello! How can i remap buttons 8 and 9 to scroll screen horizontaly?08:03
KI7MTxface is the default for xubuntu.08:03
ikoniakarab44: the answers for me will be (without looking into it properly) 1.) noveu 2.) nvidia 3.) install the nvidia properitary modules and use nvidia-settings to force it to be used in your xorg.conf file08:04
karab44ikonia: it's not an easy task. First I'll have to find out what kind of module do I actually use.08:04
KI7MT[[thufir]], https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM08:05
[[thufir]]KI7MT: thanks.  you gonna stay up another five hours to fix this with me?  :)  LOL08:05
KI7MTNot likely :-)08:05
[[thufir]]KI7MT: do you think this could be bad video card?  can I test it? diagnostic?08:05
studenthow to find malware process?08:06
ikoniakarab44: I suspect you're using noveu or "nv" - which is the open nvidia drivers08:06
ikoniastudent: why do you think you have one ?08:06
KI7MTLow Graphics mode points toward HW or Driver, but .. just a guess.08:06
karab44ikonia: how to check it?08:06
[[thufir]]student: are you sure that's what you mean?08:06
studentyes08:06
ikoniakarab44: you'll see it in the xorg.0.log08:06
studentis any budy know about it??08:06
ikoniastudent: why do you think you have malware08:07
aeon-ltdstudent: you do know that it malware (if present) could be masked as something else, finding it manually would take hours08:07
KI7MTLMD is your frend08:08
studentbut how to do this manually?08:08
ikoniastudent: why do you think you have malware08:08
aeon-ltdstudent: answer ikonia's question first08:08
studenti am doing project on it.08:08
aeon-ltdstudent: to show the most inefficient way to find malware?08:09
ikoniastudent: there is no such thing as a "standard way" you see symptoms and trace/track the symptoms to the problem08:09
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[[thufir]]in my xorg log I don't see anything about "low graphics mode" I tried grep on low, nothing related.  what can I look for, or where, to find out more?08:10
studentthere is any way to differentiate between malware and benign process?08:10
aeon-ltdstudent: like a doctor doing a differential diagnosis, or use a malware scanner08:10
ikoniastudent: you need symptoms - if you have none, this is a pointless discussion08:10
KI7MTLDM is a huge subject to think about, refining the scope would probable yield a much better paper.08:11
studenti want to do this using programming ..08:11
ikoniastudent: this isn't really anything to do with ubuntu then08:11
dinohey what is xorg08:11
ikoniadino: the display server for linux08:11
karab44KI7MT: pardon mate, what kind of memory leak you mentioned. I have this version of vbox08:11
aeon-ltdstudent: you want to build a malware scanner that has a database of one? this is ridiculous08:11
KI7MTkarab44, I don' have the source, what I did have was a machine that could reproduce the problem, windows host, UB VM, ram gust kept growing.08:12
karab44KI7MT: Is it official bug? Did you report it?08:13
dinohey is there any  site where i can get the source code for bloGTK08:13
KI7MTI can't find one, but they up-reved to 4.2.18 today, so I'm watching this one.08:13
studenthow can monitor malware??????08:15
[[thufir]]I really, really, don't think I have a bad mouse.  but, I can't left click anything. in firefox, I can right click a link, the menu comes up, I *right* click "open in new tab".  is that normal?  I'm in unity, somehow, even though I thought I'd removed it...08:15
HemebondI have just installed and configured isc-dhcp-server on an Ubuntu server but the server itself can't resolve names (DNS). /etc/resolv.conf has localhost as the nameserver. How do I fix this to properly point to the upstream DNS server?08:15
Ben64student: how is this relating to ubuntu support08:16
HemebondAlso, the /etc/network/interfaces file has the correct DNS server.08:16
KI7MTdino, first item in googgle search: https://launchpad.net/blogtk/08:16
HemebondIn the dns-nameservers entry.08:17
dry[1]hi. java is not working on my ubuntu. how to fix it, plz?08:17
Dr_Willis!java | dry[1]08:18
ubottudry[1]: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.08:18
Ben64!resolvconf | Hemebond, i think you're looking for this08:18
ubottuHemebond, i think you're looking for this: resolvconf is a set of scripts that's used to manage /etc/resolv.conf in 12.04 and later, for more information please see: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution08:18
HemebondThanks Ben64, I've already read those.08:19
dry[1]Dr_Willis: It's working on my browsers only. Related thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217125508:19
john_johnHow do I erase a dvd with ubuntu so I can install another iso on it? Only half of the space is used.08:19
HemebondBen64: Ah, I rebooted the server again and now /etc/resolv.conf has the correct values.08:19
bekksjohn_john: Is it a DVD-RW?08:19
Dr_Willisjohn_john:  it is a rewriteable dvd?08:19
HemebondVery strange.08:19
karab44KI7MT: I found some documentation about it, probably still not fixed ...08:19
dan123hello, how can I automatically mount a webdav drive at startup? I am looking to have my Box.com account mounted automatically. I added a line in fstab and added the secret file and added the used to the group davfs2 but it is not mounting it08:20
dan123when I run mount /path/ it works08:20
[[thufir]]1.) should /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults be a non-human readable file?  cat output is strange. 2.)  to configure that for xfce4, xubuntu, what's the syntax:  lightdm-set-defaults <???>08:20
mathfreakdan123: Is there an "auto" option on the fstab?08:21
KI7MTkarab44, Yeah, it was bad enough that I could watch my RAM monitor increase.08:21
john_johnbekks: It's dvd-r, does that mean I wont be able to use the leftover space?08:21
dan123mathfreak:  https://dav.box.com/dav /home/pi/box  davfs  rw,noexec,auto,user,async,_netdev,uid=pi,gid=pi  0  008:21
bekksjohn_john: Correct.08:21
dinojohn_john:its not possible to write the dvd again if you have writen it has iso08:21
Ben64[[thufir]]: it's an executable file08:21
Dr_Willisdan123:  also wheres your end mountpoint? is it in the users home?  -  is your users Homes encrypted?08:21
john_johnfak08:21
john_johnokay08:21
bekksjohn_john: A DVD-R can be written to only once.08:21
bekksjohn_john: Thats the difference between -R and -RW.08:21
[[thufir]]Ben64: ok. thx.08:22
dan123Dr_Willis: no, its not encrypted. The mountpoint is in /var/www/Box08:22
dan123which I changed in fstab08:22
studenthow to check process descriptor???08:23
[[thufir]]I see:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/179148/set-default-user-session-to-xfce4  but no correct answer for lightdm sessionsyntax.08:23
Ben64[[thufir]]: what are you trying to accomplish08:24
dan123Dr_Willis: I added this line in fstab https://dav.box.com/dav /var/www/Box  davfs  rw,noexec,auto,user,async,_netdev,uid=pi,gid=pi  0  008:25
[[thufir]]I want to set lightdm to not use unity (would rather just uninstall unity) and strictly use xfce.  I don't know whetherI have mouse or video card or driver problem, but it's hard to click on things and change settings, etc.08:25
Dr_Willisdan123:  so auto mounting fails. but if you later do a sudo mount /var/www/Box it works?08:26
KI7MT[[thufir]], based on earlier context, you ant to change the greeter ?08:26
dan123Dr_Willis: yes08:26
dinohey how do i change the nice value of a process08:27
Dr_Willisdan123:  err.. im not totally sure but i THINK uid and gid need to be the actual #### not the  name of the user and group also08:27
Ben64[[thufir]]: just choose xfce when you're logging in08:27
Dr_Willisdan123:  its possible theres some timeout going on. You could mount the thing from /etc/rc.local after a bit of a delay. that lets the system networking get all setup08:27
john_johnDr_Willis: Okay so I found a used dvd-rw, how do I erase the content so i can install an iso on it instead?08:28
dinohow do i manually unmount a usb08:28
Dr_Willisjohn_john:  the  cd/dvd burning front ends normally have a 'blank disk' option08:29
dan123Dr_Willis: I think I like that idea better, how can I add a delay there?08:29
Dr_Willisdino:  sudo umount /mountpoint/of/the/device08:29
Dr_Willisdan123:  of course. its just a script. somthing like sleep 30 && mount whatever08:29
KI7MT[[thufir]], is you simpley want GTK greeter v.s. unity then: sudo /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and change too: greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter08:29
Dr_Willis!mount | dino08:30
ubottudino: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount08:30
[[thufir]]Ben64: I cannot choose xfce4 because the mouse doesn't work properly.  either video card, driver or mouse problem.08:30
KI7MT[[thufir]], you can also add the default desktop on the .conf also.08:30
studenthow to mount usb08:31
[[thufir]]aha. ~/.conf?08:31
KI7MT/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf08:31
[[thufir]]heh, no that's I"m asking. what's "word" to use? xfce? xfce4? xubuntu?  a guy on askubuntu tried the them all.08:33
componentkjhj08:33
componentk.08:33
componentl08:33
[[thufir]]and I htought I had mouse/keyboard problems!  ;)08:33
karab44what was this cute command to print output to pastebin?08:34
bekkskarab44: pastebinit08:35
xmetali a mnot sure why, but it has been awhile sinec i messed with rewritable stuff08:35
xmetaloops @ my fingers ... * i am not sure *08:36
bekksjohn_john: There is a menu entry in k3b to do so.08:36
john_johnbekka: yes i saw that, thx08:36
xmetalk3b is one of those programs I make sure is on any distro i am on :)08:37
karab44ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6073946/08:37
karab44 08:37
bekksxmetal: I only need it when having a dvd burning device :)08:38
karab44ikonia: could you tell me please what do you see?08:38
[[thufir]]I'm using lynx and, pardon, cannot get the link for the 13.04 dvd (live) download.  what's the link for the torrent, please?  I can wget it.08:39
KI7MT[[thufir]], I dont have Xubuntu installed, but I believe should be: greeter-session=xubuntu08:40
Dr_Willis!torrents08:40
ubottuRaring can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/raring/desktop/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/raring/server/ubuntu-13.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:696908:40
reisio[[thufir]]: what arch?08:41
KI7MT[[thufir]], ad you can verify what xsession are available by: ls /user/share/xsessions08:41
reisiolinks compatible: http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/ubuntu.com/releases/13.04/08:42
[[thufir]]reisio: 32bit if that's what you mean08:42
KI7MT[[thufir]], sri, bad command: ls /usr/share/xsessions08:42
reisio[[thufir]]: see last08:42
[[thufir]]thanks guys.08:42
Aku506Ok. My xbindkeys isn't loading at all. I've tried default examples so my syntax should be OK. What's problem?08:42
reisioffr: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors08:42
reisioAku506: what's your environment?08:42
Aku506Unity08:43
john_johnhow do I eject my cd/dvd tray with the terminal? It refuses to open08:43
bekksjohn_john: Unmount it and then use "eject".08:44
studenthow to make proxy settings in ubuntu??08:44
[[thufir]]13.04 i386 iso torrent is that for a live dvd?08:44
reisiojohn_john: is its medium's filesystem mounted?08:44
reisio[[thufir]]: IIRC DVD images are a waste of time to download08:45
[[thufir]]http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/ubuntu.com/releases/13.04/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent08:45
john_johnbekks:  there's nothing in the tray, so there's nothing to umount. It just refuses to open.08:45
reisiojust get the ordinary desktop image08:45
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]:  the desktop edition is a live dvd08:45
KI7MTjohn_john, drutil tray eject 008:45
reisioand why torrent when you can download over http08:45
Dr_Willis13.04 ubuntu is a dvd. thats the only size it has08:45
reisiowell there's a minimal image08:45
reisiothe ordinary one just doesn't fit on a CD is all08:45
dinostudent,configure you apt.conf file in /etc/apt/08:46
Dr_Willis13.04 lubuntu Might also fit on a cd still08:46
[[thufir]]thx08:46
reisiosilly to think of them in sizes of antiquated media08:46
john_johnKI7MT where do I enter that? It says it can't find the command drutil08:46
KI7MTcommandline08:46
reisiothat's not a Mac OS command? :p08:46
john_johnKI7MT, the terminal? It can't find the command drutil it says. :(08:47
reisiojohn_john: eject or eject -T would be the command, but you might need to make sure nothing in it is mounted first08:47
Aku506reisio: I'm using Unity08:47
john_johnreisio: the drive is empty08:47
john_johnreisio: that command gives me: COuldn't find or open the device for: "cdrom"08:48
reisiojohn_john: maybe it's not well08:48
reisiojohn_john: if you can pull it open, go ahead08:48
john_johnI can't08:48
reisiosometimes they get confused about whether they're opened or closed08:48
john_johnwithout breaking it that is08:48
reisioso they try to open when they're opened, and close when they're closed08:48
reisioI bet you can :)08:48
reisiojohn_john: I had one that something like this worked on08:49
reisiojohn_john: eject; eject -T; eject08:49
reisioor something like that08:49
reisiosome magical combination that made it wake up08:49
bekksjohn_john: Isnt there a tiny hole at the front of the drive? The emergency eject hole?08:49
reisiothe emergency make the firmware work hole? :p08:49
reisiowouldn't that rely on the same people who made the broken firmware in the first place? :p08:50
reisioI could see a hole so you could easily pull it open08:50
reisioor just a finger/nail notch08:50
bekksreisio: No. Its a mechanical mechanism thats utilized when pushing a paperclip in.08:50
bekksreisio: Mechanics dont need firmware :P08:50
reisioreally...08:51
john_johnbekks: it's not a laptop, it has a button. But the button doesn't open it either.08:51
reisioI've never seen a cd tray with a redundant opening mechanism08:51
reisiobut that sounds worthwhile08:51
bekksjohn_john: I am not talking about the button.08:51
reisioor would, if CDs weren't a dead medium08:51
Ben64every cd driver ever has a paperclip hole08:51
Ben64drive*08:51
reisionah08:51
bekksBen64: Which is not true.08:51
Ben64yes08:51
reisionope08:51
bekksBen64: No.08:51
Ben64100% true08:51
reisioheh08:51
bekksBen64: It isnt true. EOD.08:52
Ben64too late, i already said 100%08:52
john_johnbekks: there does seem to be a really tiny hole.08:52
bekksNo one cares.08:52
KI7MTSri guys, drutils is pretty much BSD only, had my Mac Links open08:52
* xmetal stays out of this 08:52
reisioheheh08:52
xmetal:P08:52
Ben64you seem to care08:52
reisioKI7MT: :)08:52
bekksBen64: Nope. But you can tell it to my kill file.08:52
reisioBen64: enough to type thirteen chars, anyways :p08:52
bekksjohn_john: Thats the tiny hole we are talking about.08:52
Ben64because every drive has one08:53
reisioBen64: sure they have08:53
reisioI can confirm that, 'cause like you I've personally seen every drive :D08:53
john_johnbekks: will a needle work?08:53
bekksjohn_john: Yes, or a paper clip.08:53
Ben64has to be pretty strong to press it08:53
reisiodon't poke yourself08:54
bekksUbuntu has no medical support ;)08:54
ruienAnyone here familiar with building a kernel from source? I'm trying to do some kernel dev but building using "debian/rules binary-generic" is *slow* -- it tries to rebuild from scratch every change, rather than just detecting modified files and building only the necessary pieces the way `make` does. It requires "debian/rules clean", and even "make deb-pkg" is slow. Question: anyone know how to install a kernel directly after the `make` phase?08:54
Ben64ruien: that really isn't within the scope of this channel08:55
reisioruien: you just want new modules?08:55
bekksruien: There is no such way - because thats not the "official" way.08:55
karab44ruien: try ask on #linux08:55
ruienno, i'm specifically modifying the kernel source, but i'm changing only one file (fs/namei.c) so it should be relatively quick. Definitely shouldn't need to rebuild everything on each run..08:55
bekksruien: It should, since the build instructions tell the rocess to start over, because something changed.08:56
ruienwell this is somewhat debian-specific, so i hesitate to ask in #linux08:56
reisioI don't see why not :)08:56
xmetali just install the repo kernal upgrades in "debain type" distros08:56
reisioyou can use -j# with make, though, might help08:56
karab44ruien: ask on #linux or #kernel08:56
xmetali only modify them from source on other ( ot ) distros08:56
* xmetal karab08:56
xmetaloops08:56
* xmetal agrees with karab08:56
karab44-j paralels building processes, nothing more, it will not fix ruien's problem08:57
reisiohis problem stems from the duration required, so sure, it'll help08:57
ruienyeah i'm using -j5, anyway "make -j5" is about 10x faster than" DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=5 fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic", and therein lies the problem.08:57
ruieni'll find a more appropriate channel to ask in08:58
dinois there any proxy settings for wget08:58
karab44reisio: he's using -j5 :)08:58
KI7MTSounds Simple, but it not be: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile08:58
reisiodino: man knows08:58
reisiokarab44: which proves my point, not yours :p08:58
karab44reisio: but it doesn't solve his problem...08:58
dinoreisio: where do i do the proxy settings08:58
reisiokarab44: it could / have :)08:59
reisiodino: I believe the man page says, do you not see it?08:59
karab44reisio: don't you understand he's asking for something else?08:59
karab44His problem is that he doesn't want to rebuild whole kernel and he should ask on #kernel or #linux09:00
reisiommhmmm09:00
reisiowhich is because he doesn't want to wait09:01
ruienkarab44: you are correct, and that is what i'll do :)09:01
KI7MTStandard re-builds on kernels are simple, but it's not so simple to install it the Debian . Ubuntu way, so Kernel, is not the right place, Ubuntu-Dev or Ubuntu-Kernel would be better choice.09:01
karab44ruien: I can't help you because I am tottaly diesel in this matter. Ask me in one month :)09:01
karab44I just installed 16GB of ram but I don't know is it enough for ubuntu. My wacom tablet is very laggy... :/09:03
dan123how can I monitor a folder for changes (mostly adding files) and move the changes to another folder? Is it possible with rsync?09:03
marloshousedan123, just what rsync is for09:03
Dr_Willis!info fam09:03
ubottufam (source: fam): File Alteration Monitor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.0-17 (raring), package size 67 kB, installed size 256 kB09:03
reisiokarab44: with screen or?09:04
aantoonHi, I have installed cups and the drivers for my brother usb printer (as far as I can tell perfect) "lpinfo -v" shows "direct usb://Brother/DCP-165C?serial=BR*****" but it is still not printing. The printer seems to get no sinal from my laptop. how can i troubleshoot this?09:04
dan123marloshouse: can it do it in realtime?09:04
xmetaluh09:04
marloshousedan123, rsync -ax --progress --size-only /source/folder /dest/folder09:04
marloshousedan123, what is real-time?09:04
reisiodan123: with lsyncd yeah09:04
xmetal16GB not enough ?09:04
xmetallol09:04
reisiothink he means on demand09:04
karab44reisio: no, it's a graphire wireless bluetooth tablet. ikonia asked me to check xorg.0.log but I don't know what to look for.09:04
KI7MTaantoon, a good place to start is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems09:05
dan123marloshouse: I mean I installed motion and have a webcam and I want to copy the files captured by motion to a server09:05
dan123so it would need to monitor the folder constantly for file changes09:05
KI7MTaantoon, Im not a printer guru, so best I can advise is the linky.09:05
marloshouselsyncd then09:05
reisiokarab44: what does it have for graphics?09:05
aantoonKI7MT: been there done that09:05
makarahi. How can I stop wpa_supplicant and NetworkManager? They keep restarting after I kill them.09:05
marloshouseor just put rsync on a timer09:06
karab44http://paste.ubuntu.com/6074031/09:06
[[thufir]]I put xfce into the lightdm.conf file, but it didn't go to xfce when I logged in, still goes to unity.  I want switch from unity to anything.  (having videocard/driver/mouse problems of some sort)09:06
reisioor a cron, yeah :)09:06
karab44reisio: I don't know, ikonia said so.09:06
reisio[[thufir]]: hit the little cog icon09:06
marloshousedan123, you need to run an rsync command by hand, see how freakin fast it is09:06
reisioikonia knows your graphics hardware?09:06
missygood evening09:06
reisio'lo missy09:06
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karab44oh, I pasted some logs09:06
marloshousedan123, i have a 60gb drive i sync up in about 4 sec09:07
karab44reisio: missunderstood09:07
Guest35973I am curious about something with my linux09:07
reisioah09:07
reisioGuest35973: takes a few weeks for the super powers to kick in09:07
dan123marloshouse: I need to have it automated so that I just plug and and forget about it... I need no manual command running09:07
Dr_Willis'with great power comes great responsability'09:07
marloshousedan123, do you know how to set up a cron job?09:08
dan123marloshouse: no09:08
[[thufir]]reisio: I can't hit the icon logo.  bad driver, or video card, or mouse or something.09:08
karab44I know nothing about these AIGLX GLX XGL's waylands Xorg's and Xfree86 and ikonia said problem is somewhere there... :/09:08
ikoniaI said nothing of the sort09:08
ikoniaI said you are experiencing visual lag09:08
marloshousedan123, build an rsync command (like i showed you above) and then stick it in cron09:08
coolmousewhere is ubuntu boot messages log ?09:08
ikoniathe problem without any investigation will mostlikely be your xorg configuration09:09
marloshousecoolmouse, dmesg09:09
reisiokarab44: I don't see any EE's in this paste, those are usually what matter09:09
ikoniaI specifically said xfree86/wayland/etc is not something you should be looking at09:09
ikoniaas your version of ubuntu only uses Xorg09:09
reisiokarab44: besides you said it was sluggish, right? Not failing exactly?09:09
karab44EE?09:09
karab44erors?09:09
ruienkarab44: have you tried using something like xubuntu to compare speeds? That information would help delineate the nature of the issue09:09
ikoniagood god09:10
ikoniayou don't need to install different things to "compare speed"09:10
ikoniawork the problem through09:10
karab44wait a minute, it was working years ago. Even on Debian Etch after 2days of configuration but it finally started to work.09:10
[[thufir]]how can I remove unity?  I just want xubuntu, or anything else.09:10
reisio[[thufir]]: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu09:10
reisio[[thufir]]: or download the xubuntu image in the first place09:10
karab44I have i7, 16gigs of ram, don't anybody tells me it's performance issue09:11
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]:  given how many weird issues you have beenhaving... i have to wonder what sort of a sad state your system is in.09:11
ikoniakarab44: I've already told you it's not09:11
[[thufir]]oh, yeah, psychocats, forgot about that guy.  thanks.09:11
ikoniakarab44: is there a reason you are not listening to what I told you before09:11
reisio[[thufir]]: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/13.04/release/xubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso09:11
coolmouse<marloshouse> dmesg messages is not all09:11
[[thufir]]lol, I think it's a hardware problem.09:11
ikonia08:57 < ikonia> karab44: I suspect the problem is with your video card config, rather than your cpu/arch09:11
ikoniakarab44: I told you that over an hour ago09:12
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]: test with a live cd. and try a clean install to see i guess. you have been fighting with what should be a trivial thing for several hours now.09:12
karab44ikonia: I try to look into this log and I see only NVIDIA everywhere but I don't know is this a kind of module you've mentioned09:12
ikoniakarab44: right, so that's the information you should be giving people, not making up things that I said, when I didn't09:12
karab44maybe it's something else, if I knew linux architecture I wouldn't ask anybody for help09:12
ikoniawhy do you think it's something else09:13
ikoniakarab44: I've told you the likely problem - you've not disproved it09:13
dan123marloshouse: running a cronjob is probably not what I want as I need this to be almost instantaneous when it detects a change. I dont want it to wait as time is critical for alarm systems. The camera can sit for hours without having any changes registered (generating new files). So I was looking for something light to monitor for changes and then copy without delaying more than a few secs09:13
[[thufir]]I don't what I'm going to do when it's time to burn an image from the CLI.  it'll be interesting, let's say.09:13
ikoniayet you're saying it's something else09:13
marloshousedan123, look at lsyncd then09:13
marloshousesee if that fits your needs09:13
karab44ikonia: seems we are missunderstanding each other09:14
dan123ok09:14
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]:  i tend to just put the iso files on flash drives these days09:14
karab44I just said I don't clearly see what's in xorg.0.log. That's what I meant09:14
ruieni'd be inclined to think ikonia's on the right track, but i'm unsure how to actually go about debugging that directly, which is why i suggested comparing another WM. If there's a better way, great09:15
[[thufir]]my flash drive is <2GB09:15
[[thufir]]or, hmm, maybe that's enough.09:15
Dr_Willis[[thufir]]:  i think any of the ubuntu iso disrtos will fit on a 1gb flash09:15
Dr_Willisbut really i have seen 8gb flash drives in the $5 range all over the place.. time to skip tomorrows big-mac and fries.. and grab one. ;)09:16
karab44ikonia: And problem is afaik not only visual, because if I grab a window and move it is moved also with lag.09:16
reisio[[thufir]]: right, they aren't "DVD" images, they just tend to no longer fit on a 700MB CD is all09:16
ikoniakarab44: that is visual09:17
UbuntuUserI've just installed updates for my Ubuntu 13.04 machine. It was running fine beforehand, but now when I login I get a black screen09:17
karab44oh ok09:17
ikoniakarab44: moving a window is visual09:17
[[thufir]]Dr_Willis: downloading (slowly) over wifi.   13.04 desktop.09:17
KI7MTThey all fit on CD, =< 750MB , else there is a waring about oversize ISO image.09:17
UbuntuUserand half a dozen errors occur09:17
karab44That's good, because I tought it could be that only pointer is laggy, but actions are on time. Now it's clear09:17
KI7MT[[thufir]], also, unless you need somethign specific, in 13.04 . 13.10 on xub .. probably best to stick with 12.04.309:18
john_johnwoo, solved the tray problem. But now my computer refuses to boot from the dvd09:18
* [[thufir]] chillaxes a bit. but, is there a way to test a video card? or test a mouse, see what clicks show up a in a log?09:18
Dr_Willisthe new ubuntu releases  COME on a dvd required iso file size.09:18
Dr_Willislubuntu i think still fits on a cd09:18
reisioKI7MT: no, they used to all09:18
john_johnI pressed f12 and selected cdrom, then it says boot from cdrom and it just stays there and nothing happens.09:18
UbuntuUserHow can I revert the latest updates I've installed, via Terminal?09:18
KI7MTHmmm.. I've never used a DVD UB image, so pass on the DVD bit, I take that back, used it on Edubuntu once.09:19
reisiowell, again, it's not a dvd image :)09:20
reisioand arguably even things that are meant for dvds aren't only usable on dvds09:21
KI7MTYou can see them oversize CD's on cdimage: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20130907/09:21
reisiothe classic "dvd image" took up about 4 gigs, which meant you wasted time downloading at least 3 :p09:21
karab44ok I'm stuck, this logfile doesn't speak to me in any language.09:21
karab44I'll go search the net.09:22
[[thufir]]good grief.  ok, $5 problem. xinput shows clicks for left mouse button don't work.  lol, well, live and learn.09:22
[[thufir]]but, that doesn't explain why I kept getting messages about "low quality resolution" or something when booting...unless video card went wonky at the *exact* same time as the mouse failed?09:23
KI7MT[[thufir]], so you say'en you VID is fixed now?09:24
[[thufir]]KI7MT: see, I'm not sure, because the mouse is weird.  it *seems* ok, but earlier it was saying "low quality", so I can't imagine why it would say that unless:  1.) serious system problem 2.) video card failure.  ?09:26
karab44Day lost on making things that should work, work.09:26
[[thufir]]I mean, earlier, I couldn't even boot into a GUI.  that has nothing to do with the mouse(?).09:26
xtre_how can i have customize my boot screen ? so that i get different design of ubuntu on boot up ?09:28
KI7MT[[thufir]], I don't see how the mouse and effects video, onther than maybe the xconf file, .. but maybe a combination of reloading LightDM, and other thing fixed it. Wish I knew what it was though.09:29
KI7MTxtre_, customize Grub2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154233809:30
[[thufir]]KI7MT: yeah, well, when I get a new mouse, I'll find out :)09:30
xtre_KI7MT, thank you :)09:31
Dr_Willisthere is some  use the numpad-as-a-mouse option i recall09:32
karab44http://paste.ubuntu.com/6074115/ anybody explain to me what graphic module do I use? Because I see both.09:32
Dr_Willisif the video drivers or X gets onfused - the system can say its in 'low graphics mode'09:33
Dr_Willishmmm09:35
KI7MTIf you installed the Nvidia restricted driver, the NV is the one you use, else nouveau.09:35
lambyhello guys09:37
lambyCan somebody help me install tor on ubuntu 13.04 64bit?09:38
bwaynelamby: i think the recommended way to use tor right now is to use the tor browser.09:39
nightdreverW: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/precise-getdeb/games/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net:http: [IP: 141.101.116.236 80]09:39
nightdrever ????09:39
karab44lamby: why just don't install Tails on your USB drive or second partition?09:40
lambyhmm this is first time i hear something about Tails but for now i want to use Tor09:41
lambyi got error message in a console09:41
lambyfor ownership and dont know howto to fix it09:41
karab44lamby: It is a system based on debian but it's generally for Tor users.09:41
karab44lamby: it is recommended to use tails when using Tor.09:42
bwaynelamby: https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en#linux09:42
lambybwayne i got it from this link09:42
lambybut09:42
lambyno idea howto install from archive09:42
lambyim new09:43
lambyto linux09:43
lamby:D09:43
FloodBot1lamby: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:43
karab44yes, now we see you're new ;)09:43
karab44try this instead of tor https://tails.boum.org/09:43
bwaynetar -xzfv tor-browser-gnu....09:44
bwaynetar -xzvf, sorry09:44
lambythx09:44
lambyall09:44
lamby:)09:44
karab44lamby: tails is already much more secured and configured for tor networking. It has disabled cookies and stuff by default. And it simply - works09:45
bwaynelamby: be sure that javascript is disabled. install noscript if it's not in there. last i checked, it was.09:46
karab44yes, this is quite important thing.09:46
bwaynebut i read they had (stupidly) enabled JS now.09:46
lambyi feel this is gonna be hard :D09:46
karab44lamby: as much hard as pressing the button could be.09:47
bwaynelamby: using a dedicated system as karab44 is suggesting is probably the safest. simply using the tor browser is probably the easiest09:47
KI7MTkarab44, here's how you can tell about the Nvidia driver, just tested on my system:  sudo lshw -c video |grep "configuration:" |awk '{print $2}09:47
karab44wow KI7MT impressive09:48
KI7MTresults:+= driver=nvidia09:48
lambyusr/bin data is not owner by this user TOR09:48
lambyerror mssg09:48
karab44so what information contains xorg.0.log I pasted? Is this not sufficient?09:48
KI7MTLOL no idea, you wanted to know which module was the driver :-)09:49
karab44KI7MT: it just levitates and nothing... no print, just weird prompt ">" and nothing, ziltch, NULL09:51
KI7MTMake sure you have the final ' on the end looks like that is missing:09:52
karab44hahaha that explains a lot09:53
KI7MTsudo lshw -c video |grep "configuration:" |awk '{print $2}'09:53
karab44my computer shily whispered... driver=nvidia09:53
KI7MTIndeed :-)09:54
karab44So is that it? Does it mean I can not fix my wacom lag?09:54
nightdrevercan someone please help me with sources list09:55
karab44I guess I need octa core processor and SLI 680gxt hardware to handle it.09:55
karab44but it was working flawless on ubuntu 6. 5 years ago.09:55
KI7MTI pass on Wacom requirments09:56
nightdrevercould someone give me their working sources list ubuntu 12.0409:56
karab44KI7MT: could you tell me what exactly happens on my xorg.0.log?09:57
karab44I see some things loading, unloading. Is something wrong there?09:57
karab44what happens if I remove nvoeuea drivers from the system?09:57
karab44now I know I am using nvidia09:57
KI7MTnightdrever, source list you mean initial manifest, or current --get-selections ?09:57
nightdreveriive messed around with it09:58
nightdreverand i want it back to normal09:58
KI7MTkarab44, no, I dont really understand that log .. too much fluff in it.09:58
karab44D:09:58
KI7MTnightdrever, what do you bean normal, back to original install config?09:59
nightdreverwell i was trying to update it09:59
nightdreverbut i followed something online and now i get errors09:59
nightdreverive done something wrong09:59
nightdreveri want a working one09:59
KI7MTwhat's the errors, and what were you updating?09:59
nightdreveri just want to restore to default10:00
KI7MTWell, anyone that gives you there current manifest /  dpkg --get-selections is going to have mods to the original, so to get the original, reinstall it. There's a way to do it, but it's long and drawn out without a check-point backup.10:01
KI7MTCase in point, do the following: count=$(dpkg --get-selections | wc -l) && echo "$count"  .. and tell me what it says10:04
bwaynewhy not use this Ubuntu Sources List Generator http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ ?10:04
nightdrever100% [Connecting to archive.getdeb.net (216.201.78.13)]10:05
nightdreverstuck there10:05
KI7MTThat still does not give him his original maifest, for his specific install.10:05
nightdreverW: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/precise-getdeb/games/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net:http: [IP: 141.101.117.236 80]10:06
KI7MTOk, that's odd, that should have given a local package count.10:07
KI7MTaka like mine, 186210:07
bwayneThe default sources.list isn't very complicated, KI7MT.10:08
bwaynemain, security, updates ...10:08
KI7MTI agree, very simple.10:08
bwayneThe issue is with the software that's installed through all those other repos. No more updates.10:09
KI7MTGoing backwards, to a specific build point, without a restore point, is not so simple.10:10
bwaynenightdrever: try just commenting out archive.getdeb.net from /etc/apt/sources.list10:10
bwayneKI7MT: you mean like making an image?10:11
KI7MTHe wants a restoration without a backup, or restore point.10:11
Otaku__I connected my Computer directly to my NAS, cuz my router doen't support Gigabit, how can i access it?10:12
Otaku__the static IP defined on the NAS and the Name are not working10:12
Otaku__also if i try to access only smb:// via pcmanfm I get: "Failed to retrieve share list from server"10:12
bwayneIt sounded like he just wanted the default sources back.10:12
john_johnokay so my screen settings refuses to open. The program opens in the system tray but I can't see it elsewhere nor use it. WHat do I run in the terminal to open it and see what's wrong?10:12
KI7MTHe's messed something up aand want to go back int time to goodness :-) and asked for a manifest .. wont really help actually.10:12
varunwhich utility in ubuntu is capable of converting pdf to doc while preserving data format10:13
KI7MTMaybe bwayne, what don we just ask him :-) ...10:13
bwaynewell, if it were me, my first step would be to simplyl comment out archive.getdeb.net and see what happens. they may be down right now.10:13
KI7MTdockbook, Asciidoc LaTeX etc10:14
KI7MTbwayne, yep,. that sight is timing out here too.10:14
varunwhich is best while preserving the format10:15
varunthat pdf have10:15
KI7MTI no expert, but I've  been told DocBook is the PDF app of choice.10:15
KI7MTIm sure the TeX guys would have something to say about that thought. The Ubuntu Manual is done in TeX I believe.10:16
dbuggerHello guys. Im running virtualbox on ubuntu, to use W7, but i have no internet connection. Can someone help me fix it?10:16
varunthnx KI7MT10:17
MonkeyDustdbugger  set the network type to bridged, instead if NAT10:17
MonkeyDustinstead of*10:17
KI7MTWhere don't you have Inet, the Host or VM10:17
KI7MTAll my ServerVVM's are Bridged to the switch, and assigned IP's from there.10:18
KI7MTServer VM's10:18
dbuggerMonkeyDust, I have 2 Network adapters. One set to NAT and another to Bridged10:18
dbuggerShould I have only one?10:19
KI7MT1x unless you are running a DHCP server off the second NIC or you gang-parallel the two NICS10:19
dbuggerAnd to which should I bridge it? eth0 or wlan0? Im getting my internet in the host through Wlan10:19
MonkeyDustdbugger  explore it a bit, see what does what10:20
dbuggerWell, I changed to one adapter only. I configured it to Bridge wlan 0 and didnt work. im going to try eth010:21
KI7MTYou need eth0, Bridged to the Host. Disable Wlan0 on VM. then all traffic is is through the Host Gateway.10:22
UbuntuUserHow can I move a dir from my local HDD to an SMB share, via terminal?10:22
dbuggerI just tried it that way, bridged to eth0, and the netword still doesnt connect10:23
TNTSHi I need help. When I try to install BleachBit, I get a Available from "universe" source then when I press Use this Source nothing happens. Downloading it directly results in Dependency is not satisfiable: menu10:23
ravenhow to disable autologin by cmd line? (xubuntu 13.04)10:24
KI7MTOr, you could run eth0 as NAT, and get an internal IP address, 10.1.10.xx or whatever, but you'd have to port-forward / iptable the Host to tunnel into the VM, which is a pain.10:24
feisaris someone able to tell me why this rule causes UFW to block ssh access from 192.168.0.100? ufw allow proto tcp from 192.168.0.100 port 2210:24
mrdebhi10:25
mrdebwhy does kernel sometimes access hard drive for no reason10:25
mrdebis this info10:25
uronuapt-cacher problem err connection failed10:26
Otaku__<Otaku__> I connected my Computer directly to my NAS, cuz my router doen't support Gigabit, how can i access it?10:27
Otaku__<Otaku__> the static IP defined on the NAS and the Name are not working10:27
Otaku__<Otaku__> also if i try to access only smb:// via pcmanfm I get: "Failed to retrieve share list from server"10:27
uronuapt-cacher problem err connection failed. I can't install ldap-utils libpam-ldap libnss-ldap nscd but i can install other tools.10:27
dbuggerMmmm, so I guess there is no solution :(10:27
KI7MTIf the NIC is enabled. configured to Bridged, selected by device type, it should work.10:28
MrWin98_Anyone around?10:29
Dr_Willis1600+ people in here.10:29
MrWin98_I have Uberstudent installed and I cannot figure out the password I used.10:29
MrWin98_I went into recovery - root but the SOB still asks for password10:30
KI7MT+ 3 OPS :-) but they are peoples too :-)10:30
ubuntunoobHi there, I have tried to install ubuntu desktop a number of times using cd-roms and bootable usb disks (I have tried version 10 and 11 off the website and both 64 and 32 bit). The most progress I have made is the purple screen which says ubuntu with 5 dots and it freezes at this point. The computer I am trying to install on has an AMD64 3600+ processor. Could this be a compatibility issue?10:30
Dr_WillisNo idea what uberstudent is.. if you mean your ubuntu users password. you can reset  the users password via the recovery console.10:30
MrWin98_Is there another way to reset the damn password?10:30
MrWin98_NoI CANNOT10:30
Dr_Willisubuntunoob:  a video card/chipset/driver issue.10:30
MrWin98_Still asks for password10:30
Dr_Willis!nomodeset | ubuntunoob10:31
ubottuubuntunoob: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter10:31
MrWin98_Yeah it is a distro based on Ubuntu10:31
Dr_WillisMrWin98_:  you are refering to the Ubuntu Users LOGIN password? or what exactly.10:31
MrWin98_Login passowrd10:31
MrWin98_I had put the PC away for a while and I got it back out and I just cannot remember what I used to login (password)10:31
Dr_WillisMrWin98_:  recvovery console. remount / to be writeable. 'sudo passwd theuseraname' and enter a new password  is how ive seen it done hundereds of times10:31
Dr_Willis!resetpassword10:32
Dr_Willis!password10:32
ubottuForgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords10:32
Dr_Willisor you can edit the /etc/passwd file and give the user an empty password  then let the user change it.10:32
MrWin98_I load up and say recovery, then I choose root, but the damn thing asks for a password or predd D to continue10:32
Dr_Willisyou mean its asking for a ROOT user password?10:33
MrWin98_I guess10:33
Dr_WillisMrWin98_:  you need to determine.. not guess.10:33
MrWin98_All I know is it keeps askin for password and I forgot the damn password10:33
Dr_Willisubuntu dosent use a root user password. and the ubuntu recovery definatly does not ask for one10:33
MrWin98_It does here10:33
Dr_Willisyou can use a live cd, and chroot into the installed system also and try resetting it10:33
MrWin98_Don't ask me why10:33
Dr_WillisMrWin98_:  UBUNTU by default does not. so you have done somting to change it.10:34
MrWin98_I am in another Linux how do I reset from here?10:34
Dr_Willischroot in, use the passwd command10:34
TNTSNevermind, the problem seemed to have fixed itself10:34
john_johnhow do I bring up display settings through the terminal?10:34
ubuntunoobubottu: Thanks, will give it a shot10:35
ubottuubuntunoob: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:35
ubuntunoobmindblown10:36
pyalotso, the last updated trashed my install, I guess I shouldn't have ran the manual nvidia installer, or something.10:36
pyalotunity shell didn't start anymore10:36
pyalotdidn't get into recovery graphics mode, mouse/keyboard just froze10:36
pyalotaaaand I did another reinstall10:36
Dr_Willisyou could have just tried reinstalling the nvidia drivers10:37
pyalotI've got an SSD, it's faster than trying to figure out how to fix stuff10:37
pyalotyeah I could've10:37
pyalotbut then I'd have to mount the hd writable, go mess with grub settings so I can drop into a root shell and reinstall the drivers10:37
pyalotwould've taken longer than reinstall10:37
pyalotanyhow10:37
pyalotmade a few notes this time on install10:38
pyalothttps://gist.github.com/pyalot/647443410:38
pyalotso thing is, I've been using ubuntu for... a while (since 6.04 or so I think)10:38
pyalotand it's never been smooth10:38
pyalotand it's *still* not smooth10:38
pyalotdo you honestly expect "normal" users to be able to cope with that?10:38
Dr_WillisI find ubuntu very smooth here. even on my netbook10:38
pyalotDr_Willis: see what I just wrote and the gist https://gist.github.com/pyalot/647443410:39
Dr_Willispyalot:  i lost intrest after about the 4th line to be honest with you.10:39
pyalotDr_Willis: that's more or less my experience for every install, with minor variations, across any machine I install it on10:39
dr0phello, i've just installed owncloud from repo and uploaded some files. Where can I find those files? I can't find any clue...10:39
pyalotDr_Willis: exactly10:39
jimmytheehey, after trying to install nvidia driers i have no more unity and no more xorg.conf. How do I download a new xorg.conf? I think that might solve the problem10:39
pyalotjimmyff: https://gist.github.com/pyalot/647443410:40
Dr_Willisjimmythee:  you dont need an xorg.conf - the nvidia drivers and X can auto configure if there is none.10:40
pyalotjimmyff: the nvidia drivers are broken since last update10:40
Dr_Willisjimmythee:  then you can remake one with the nvidia-settings tool.10:40
pyalotjimmyff: the standard drivers don't work10:40
pyalotjimmyff: the 304 driver crashes your machine10:40
UbuntuUserI've connected to a Windows server via smbclient...how can I copy a directory from my local HDD to the remote directory?10:41
pyalotjimmyff: the nvidia latest from their site will nuke your machine on next update10:41
KI7MTIv'e tried downloading Drivers and PPA, and they fail, allot. I run 2x and Quad Card NV Boxes, I've rarely used anything other than the restricted DVR's from UB10:41
pyalotjimmyff: 310 from x-swat might work10:41
jimmytheeDr_Willis now I am purging all related to nvidia...because making an xorg.conf with nvidia bugs my computer. I just want to have a pure xorg.conf10:41
KI7MTThis box im on now, NV Motherboard, NV Graphics, never one issue with either.10:42
Dr_Willisjimmythee:  'pure xorg.conf' is rather meaningless.  My nvidia system by default here has NO xorg.conf file at all.10:42
bwayneDr_Willis: man ... i remember you from wayback. Just how long have you been around?10:42
Dr_WillisThe only time i need an xorg.conf for my nvidia systems these days - is when i enable twinview. then its just like a 6 line Xorg.conf file10:42
Dr_Willisbwayne:  ages. ;)10:42
bwayneDr_Willis: I remember getting help from you, like, back in 2007 or something. Way to stick with it!10:43
jimmytheeDr_Willis my nvidia is not working, i don't want to have anything to do with it now. All I need is the xorg.conf that you start with when you install 13.04. Or else, tell me how to get unity back10:43
Dr_Willisjimmythee:  and for the 3rd time. by default there IS no xorg.conf10:43
Dr_Willisso if you rename your existing xorg.conf file to xorg.conf.oldfile    you would be back to the  one a normal install starts with10:44
jimmytheeDr_WIllis, but i'm stupid and instead of renaming I deleted it...And for some reason it's not in the trash10:44
Dr_Willisif you remove all the nvidia packages and drivers, then your system should automatically use the open sourced drivers10:44
jimmytheeDr_Willis, have you got any solution for the unity problem?10:45
Dr_Willisjimmythee:  it dosent matter.. you can delete it. or just rename it..  by default Xorg should auto configure.10:45
KI7MTIt's in trash, just not the user's trash.10:45
Dr_Willisjimmythee:  with out 3d driversd working - you really wont be using compiz or unity.10:45
jimmytheewell i've rebooted 5 times and still no xorg.conf in etc/X11. what do you mean KI7MT?10:46
Dr_Willisjimmythee:  it dosent MAKE an xorg.conf.  X auto configures as needed.10:46
jimmytheeDr_Willis, by 3D you mean nvidia? I wasn't using it before and my unity still worked10:46
Dr_Willisjimmythee:  then you were using the default open sourced nvidia drivers.10:47
jimmytheeDr_Willis I think I was actually just using the intel ones...10:47
Dr_Willisif you have an xorg.conf that still was for the Proparaty Nvidia drivers. then THAT wont work.10:47
Dr_Willisintel? thats not nvidia.. or are you FINALLY just now -  telling us you have an Optimus Dual GPU system?10:47
jimmytheeDr_Willis yes10:48
Dr_Willisgood luck then. I dont deal with Optimus10:49
Dr_Willisyou will want to use Bumblebee i belive to get it working properly10:49
jimmytheedoes bumblebee also affect graphics performance?10:49
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/search?tab=votes&q=bumblebee10:49
Dr_Willisgiven its the graphics driver stuff... yes10:50
jimmytheei read somewhere it was mostly for battery performance10:50
Dr_Willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee10:50
Dr_WillisBumblebee aims to provide support for NVIDIA Optimus laptops for GNU/Linux distributions. Using Bumblebee, you can use your NVIDIA card for rendering graphics which will be displayed using the Intel card.10:50
Dr_WillisPower Management10:51
Dr_WillisA primary goal of this project is to not only enable use of the discrete GPU for rendering, but also to enable smart power management of the dGPU when it's not in use. We're using either bbswitch (a module) or vga_switcheroo (kernel module, experimental) to do this in Bumblebee.10:51
nobodiesany reason after having added a repository i still wouldnt be able to apt-get the packages in it?10:54
Dr_Willisnobodies:  you frogot to do an 'sudo apt-get update' first ?10:55
nobodiesDr_Willis nope done an update10:55
KI7MTpackage is not actually in the repo you enables, mina uni, milti-uni ?10:56
KI7MTmain .. uni, milti-uni .. ...10:57
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nobodieswell i added "ppa:fingerprint/fingerprint-gui" and i'm trying to apt-get "fingerprint-gui"10:58
nobodiesit dosnt come up in aptitude search either10:59
Dr_Willisare you sure thats the right package name?11:01
Dr_Willissynaptic can show what packages are in what repos11:02
KI7MTsudo add-apt-repository ppa:fingerprint/fprint worked for me11:02
szymonjj11:02
jimmytheeok let's try this again: I lost my unity after messing with nvidia drivers, trying to install them when I was using my default intel drivers. Now I just purged everything nvidia I have, but I still don't have unity. Any ideas?11:02
szymonyolo11:02
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KI7MTFOllowed Inst. from here: https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/fprint11:03
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abramocan someone help me?11:05
Dr_Willis!ask11:05
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:05
nobodiesKI7MT, thanks, the other one must have been an old repo or something11:06
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abramoi have the last xubuntu, and i'd like to install libreoffice11:06
abramohow?11:06
Dr_Willisuse the libreoffice ppa if you really MUST have the latest versions11:07
Dr_Willis!ppa11:07
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge11:07
abramothanks :)11:08
cfhowlettabramo, you can also avoid all the ppa mess by downloading the .debs for libre office and installing with sudo dpkg -i foo.deb11:09
KI7MTThat works, but caused update issues down the line. By manually installing .deb's, your committed to updating that way also. besy way in through Xubuntu / Package  Manager11:11
cfhowlettKI7MT, true ...11:11
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Guest31296Hi I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 and I have a mildly annoying issue11:15
cfhowlettGuest31296, details ?11:16
Guest31296when I'm running firefox in fullscreen (F11) the windows key does not show the unity HUD11:16
Guest31296to replicate start firefox, press F11 and then the windows key11:16
Guest31296the same thing happens when running totem in fullscreen.11:17
Dr_Willissounds like a design feature to me11:18
Guest31296yeah I see why it's designed like that11:18
Guest31296previously I've been using fluxbox and there it was possible to remove the window decorations11:19
KI7MTGuest31296, it's not just 13.04, same on 12.04, and not whit just FF, Gedit, Chrome etc. all do same, gotta come out of Full Screen to get Super Key Back.11:19
KI7MTI don't know if this is by design, or an oversight, but it's consistent.11:20
Guest31296what is the overlay that appears when pressing the windows key called?11:21
Guest31296and what is the windows key called in a more "unixy" way? is it super key?11:21
reisioGuest31296: super, yes, or meta11:21
reisioGuest31296: compiz has several fancy task switcher alternatives11:22
Dr_Willisthe DASH is on the windows key. the HUD is on the alt key11:22
Guest31296Dr_Willis, thanks11:22
Dr_Willispress and hold the windows key = shows  unity key shortcuts11:22
KI7MTTook me a while to get used to it, but I like it more every day.11:23
Guest31296ah why didn't I think of that11:23
Guest31296KI7MT, I love it11:23
KI7MTFer us old guys, it's rememebring the "app name" is the problem :-)... gnome-panel spelled them out for us :-)11:24
Guest31296KI7MT, mm that is annoying11:25
Guest31296KI7MT, always a problem when you want to run something from the terminal11:26
Guest31296anyone know of a program that can give you the name of the process owning a window in X11, like xkill or xwininfo11:26
KI7MTThat's where I spend most days, bash scripts, Dialog and Whiptail menus :-)11:27
KI7MTGuest 31296 - May have a crack at this one: http://wajig.togaware.com/11:28
Guest31296KI7MT, which is somewhat related to my fullscreen super key issue since I like running terminal in fullscreen11:29
nesswould it work if i mounted a iso file on an install and reinstalled ubuntu that way?11:30
KI7MTdebian-bennies is another one to look at.11:30
john_johnHey, when I try to add a new PPA, I get an error that says "Cannot add PPA: 'No JSON object could be decoded'"11:30
john_johnI'm trying to install spotify11:30
KI7MTdebian-goodies, not bennies11:31
jribjohn_john: you should say exactly how you are trynig11:31
jimbopeaGuest31296, I like running terminal in full screen and to avoid these issues i use Guake11:31
john_johnjrib: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free"11:31
KI7MTGuake is awsome ...11:31
john_johnI have added the key so that's not the problem11:31
jribjohn_john: what ubuntu version?11:31
john_johnjrib: 13.0411:32
jribjohn_john: this isn't a ppa by the way11:32
john_johnjrib: it gives me the same error when I try to add a ppa11:32
jribjohn_john: before we move on to troubleshoot,  are you sure the repository is meant for use on ubuntu 13.04?11:32
john_johnjrib: it is supposed to work on ubuntu 13.04, or at least the guide I used was for ubuntu 13.0411:33
BluesKaj'Morning all11:33
jribjohn_john: what guide?  Also, is the line you pasted the entire output?11:33
reisiomornin'11:34
john_johnjrib: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-spotify-on-ubuntu-13-04/11:34
john_johnyup11:34
KI7MThere's another one: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/how-to-install-spotify-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-1011:35
ravenhow to disable autologin by cmd line? (xubuntu 13.04)11:35
john_johnKI7MT: yup and when I try to add the apt in the package manager I get the exact same JSON error11:35
jribjohn_john: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list; also pastebin your full input and output when you enter the command (I know you said there isn't more but humor me)11:36
ikrevedkohi, I need help!11:37
jimbopeaikrevedko, with?11:37
cfhowlett!details|ikrevedko,11:37
ubottuikrevedko,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."11:37
nessjust do spotify in the commandliine11:37
ikrevedkoxubuntu11:37
ikrevedkoplease wait 2 minutes11:37
john_johnjrib: here's the input and output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6074489/11:37
nessthe easiest way to add the repository is to go into software settings11:38
KI7MTraven, edit:  /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf  change : autologin-user=<user-name->11:38
jribraven: are you using lightdm?11:38
ikrevedkoI cant show video in chrome11:39
john_johnjrib: here's my huge source list http://paste.ubuntu.com/6074492/11:39
KI7MTjohn_john, I dont know what's up with this, getting errors here too.11:39
jribjohn_john: for what it's worth, your exact command works here.  Are you typing out this command or copying and pasting from somewhere?11:39
john_johnjrib: tried both11:39
jribjohn_john: how about the output of « more /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | cat  »11:40
ravenjrib, KI7MT just a moment11:40
Guest31296hm found a solution I opened unity plugin settings in compizconfig and activated autohide for the launcher11:40
ikrevedkoI can not watch videos and listen to music in your browser, although the flash player installed11:41
tuocugginohi, how i can set the mouse velocity on xorg.conf?11:41
john_johnKI7MT I had the error before but there was a command that fixed it. I can't find what command that was now though.11:41
ikrevedkoin my*11:41
jimbopeaikrevedko, you have the flash plugin installed?11:41
ikrevedkoo yes11:42
jribjohn_john: this is probably because you have an empty sources.list which is very strange11:42
john_john:(11:42
Guest31296KI7MT, what is whiptail b.t.w. ?11:42
ravenjrib, KI7MT lightdm.conf does not contain any autologin command. problem is: i changed settings to "do not ask for password at login" and now i cannot login at all any more11:42
ikrevedkoI do not understand what's wrong ((11:43
jribraven: are you using lightdm?11:43
KI7MTncurses GUI for terminal  .. man whiptail / man dialog  .. open a terminal and type tasksel .. that's dialog I think.11:43
jimbopeaikrevedko, have you gone to chrome://plugins/ and checked if it is enabled?11:43
ravenjrib, i am not sure i think so because there is no gdm or lxdm11:43
jribraven: ps -ef | grep lightdm11:44
ravenjrib, ok its lightdm11:44
jribraven: then /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf should be the right place11:45
ravenjrib, should i add this autologin conf?11:45
KI7MThe can alway dpkg-reconfigure lightdm or gdm I think11:46
jribraven: uh, probably not11:46
jribraven: pastebin the contents of lightdm.conf11:46
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Guest62845hi11:47
ravenjrib, it only contains [seatdefaults] with greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter and user-session)=xubuntu11:47
jimbopeaHello11:47
m0x39this is a really dumb question but im usually a RH user... anyway how do you disable startup services.. i have searched around but it seems the way in which ubuntu starts services is messed up and theres not a general convention.]#11:47
m0x39do you have to edit the /etc/init.d/ service files ? if so what do you change11:49
john_johnjrib: I fixed it by manually adding deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free to sources.list11:49
KI7MTm0x39, on server or desktop11:49
jribm0x39: kind of a mess.  Some packages are still using sys-v-init-style init scripts.  For those, you can use sysv-rc-conf (you know it is this style if there is *not* an init script in /etc/init for it (note the lack of ".d").  If there *is* an init script for your package in /etc/init, then it's an upstart script.  To disable upstart scripts, read about "manual overrides" in the upstart cookbook (should be11:49
jribfirst hit on google for "upstart cookbook")11:49
jribjohn_john: that's not a fix.11:49
john_johnjrib: nope but it lets me install spotify11:50
m0x39ubuntu desktop11:50
jribjohn_john: and I urge you to still pastebin the last command I asked for as your sources.list seems broken.11:50
m0x39thanks for the help i will look now11:50
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KI7MTm0x39, easy way, Desktop Startup Applicaiton, hard way command-line via init.d11:51
john_johnjrib: the "« more /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | cat »" command?11:52
jribjohn_john: yes11:52
john_johnj11:52
KI7MT:bum an reconf are ok for GUI tools also.11:52
KI7MTrcconf not reconf11:53
jribKI7MT: those tools don't deal with upstart jobs11:53
jribKI7MT: do they?11:53
KI7MTrcconf may do, I've not used it in a long time, let me go check.11:54
m0x39it doesnt seem to have my11:54
m0x39mysqld service in there11:54
m0x39on rcconf11:54
m0x39or the cups11:54
m0x39well they are unticed11:54
FloodBot1m0x39: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:54
KI7MTI gotta do com digging on this one, best resource so far on upstart is the cookbook: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/11:56
m0x39cheers11:56
KI7MTI sure there's tools, just a matter of getting the right one.11:56
m0x39seems so much work just to get some services disabled from startup though, bit of a ballache. and yeah just fidning the right way first11:57
jribm0x39: you create a single file with a line or two in it11:57
ravenjrib, ?11:58
KI7MTBUM is ok, but be careful, I've heard it can mess up the scripts.11:59
jribraven: yes?11:59
ravenjrib, how to solve the login problem?12:00
jribraven: still waiting on a pastebin from you12:00
KI7MTjrib, is right, you can write your own wrappers easily, and controls just abt whatever you want from your own gui.12:00
ravenjrib, i wrote it here - thats all12:00
ksinkarhow do I uninstall guile on my machine?12:00
jribraven: pastebin it12:00
jribksinkar: how did you install it?12:00
ravenjrib, you want me to pastebin 3 lines of a config file i already wrote here?12:01
ikrevedko12:01
EaglemanI am having some issues with amavis, but i dont know how to troubleshoot it:  Sep  7 13:59:37 hostname postfix/smtp[10470]: ED2DB21338: to=<user@example.com>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=60, delays=0.02/0.01/60/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)12:01
ksinkarjrib:( $ sudo apt-get install guile ) when I do ( $ sudo apt-get remove guile) I get the following error: Virtual packages like 'guile' can't be removed12:01
jribksinkar: dpkg -l '*guile*' | grep '^ii'12:02
dolanorHello12:02
dolanorAnyone know about lxc and iptables ?12:02
jribdolanor: ask your actual question12:03
ksinkarjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6074564/12:03
dolanorI have a lxc debian container in a host. I want to reroute all the traffic for postfix from host to container12:03
ikrevedkoSomebody has been creating websites? Write a private message12:04
jribksinkar: so uninstall whatever you don't want from that12:04
dolanorbut it doesn't seem to work. I guess it is some iptables stuff that I'm not aware of12:04
EaglemanI am having some issues with amavis, but i dont know how to troubleshoot it:  Sep  7 13:59:37 hostname postfix/smtp[10470]: ED2DB21338: to=<user@example.com>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=60, delays=0.02/0.01/60/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)12:04
dolanorit works well for http and https, but not for smtp12:05
m0x39found it i think just need to echo manual in service.override12:06
m0x39if its been converted, if not i dont know hwo to disable the old style services12:06
jribm0x39: sysv-rc-conf12:08
jribm0x39: (if it's sysv-init-style)12:08
jribraven: yes...12:09
SupaYoshiAnyone experience with PyKoto12:20
EaglemanI am having some issues with amavis, but i dont know how to troubleshoot it:  Sep  7 13:59:37 hostname postfix/smtp[10470]: ED2DB21338: to=<user@example.com>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=60, delays=0.02/0.01/60/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)12:20
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EaglemanI am having some issues with amavis, but i dont know how to troubleshoot it:  Sep  7 13:59:37 hostname postfix/smtp[10470]: ED2DB21338: to=<user@example.com>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=60, delays=0.02/0.01/60/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)12:31
SupaYoshiIs it advised to run SNORT on a Server? :D12:34
belkinsaIs anyone's latest version of Pidgin working on Ubuntu 13.04?12:34
EaglemanI am having some issues with amavis, but i dont know how to troubleshoot it:  Sep  7 13:59:37 hostname postfix/smtp[10470]: ED2DB21338: to=<user@example.com>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=60, delays=0.02/0.01/60/0, dsn=4.4.2, status=deferred (conversation with 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] timed out while receiving the initial server greeting)12:34
qwerty123how to disable auto mounting of removable devices??12:35
ikoniaEagleman: it's not responding quick enough12:35
Eaglemanhow to speed mister amavis up?12:36
ikonialook at why it's slow12:36
Eaglemanyeh, i have no idea where to look12:36
ikoniatest it, see if it does respond slow12:37
Eaglemanikonia, that is the problem i dont know how to troubleshoot amavis12:37
Eaglemanor how to test12:37
ikoniathen why are you using it12:37
ikoniaif you have no idea12:37
Eaglemanikonia i am not using it to troubleshoot itself, you only troubleshoot after it stopped working, which it finally did after an half year12:38
ikoniayes, so you should know how to use it if you've been using it for a year12:38
Eaglemangreat...12:39
ikoniaEagleman: check the obvious stuff, check it's running, check it's listening, connect to it's listening port, look at it's respose time, look at the logs12:39
Eaglemanso where do i get support?12:39
ikoniare-read what I said12:40
ikoniaask specific questions related to the ubuntu setup if you want help from this channel12:40
Eaglemani've always asked question about packages in the repository here, and most of the time i got an answer for that12:41
AlanBellEagleman: if it is a bug that you think relates to the Ubuntu packaging then you can file a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amavisd-new12:42
Eaglemani mean support12:42
AlanBellsure, you can ask here, but it isn't a package that many people on a saturday know about12:42
ikoniaEagleman: I've given you an answer12:42
belkinsaDid you search about it in the Ubuntu Doc's at help.ubuntu.com?12:42
belkinsaDocs*12:43
ikoniaEagleman: I'm happy to help you, but if you've been using this for over 1.5 years, you should be able to check/know the basics such as how to check it's running, which log file it logs to12:43
AlanBellEagleman: also try the amavis mailing list http://www.amavis.org/#support12:43
AlanBellbut that error sounds like the service isn't running12:44
ikoniahence time out12:44
ikoniahence why I told you to check the things I suggested12:44
AlanBellor you have done some funky stuff with firewalls blocking it from itself12:44
Eaglemanikonia, lets give some more information the, it is running, i can connect to telnet localhost 10024: 220 [127.0.0.1] ESMTP amavisd-new service ready, a new error showed up in the log:  amavis[5158]: (05158-06) (!)SMTP: 500 5.5.2 Error: bad syntax; PENALIZE: \377\364\377\375\006\377\364\377\375\006\r\n12:45
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ikoniaEagleman: ok, so the syntax appears wrong in that example of what's being passed to it, check the format it's expecting data in12:46
dosasi Have the weirdest error with my new bluetooth dongle. I plugged it in it connected absolutely fine with my mobile phone. then i unplugged it and turned bluetooth off. now i cannot get it working again. I have attached a few outputs here http://pastebin.com/9bnMiQCc12:46
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ikoniaEagleman: although that doesn't sit well as I don't see a time out there12:46
Eaglemanikonia, it seems to work aigan :S12:47
Eaglemani didnt change a thing12:47
Eaglemanamavis[5157]: (05157-06) Passed CLEAN, [5.45.183.189] <user@example.com> -> <robin@eagleman.net>, Message-ID: <522B2007.7000007@example.com>, mail_id: FqwgZIfaP1Ci, Hits: 0.999, size: 316, queued_as: AC9AF2226A, 21396 ms12:47
belkinsa@dosas: what model/brand you have?12:47
dosasit's in the paste Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)12:47
dosasbut i had it working12:48
dosasit is a noname product12:48
Guest33912new broadcom drivers still not working12:48
belkinsa@donas They seem to work for awhile, but they break after awhile.  I had this issue and just gave up using one.  But I never brothered to look for an answer.12:49
belkinsaSorry for saying that.12:49
dosasso the thing is broken12:49
Guest33912any one know something about it?12:49
dosascan you recommend a good one12:49
dosasi had it working for like 5 minutes12:50
belkinsaI can't.  All of them have that issue.12:50
Guest33912every time i update my system i have to downgrad broadcom to " bcmwl-kernel-source_5.100.82.112"12:50
belkinsaOn ubuntu that is.12:50
dosasall dongels or all from this vendor12:50
belkinsaI believe all dongels.12:50
belkinsaBut I maybe wrong here.12:51
dosasi hope so12:51
belkinsaHave you asked on ask.ubuntu?12:51
dosasi would really like to have a bluetooth connection12:51
dosasno not yet12:51
dosasdo they have an irc12:51
belkinsaI think they do, but just asking it on the stack exchange is a good idea too.12:52
belkinsaIt could help others.12:52
dosasmabye but i ave no accounts there12:52
belkinsaJust create one.  Or use your OpenID if you have one.12:53
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belkinsaAnd I meant http://askubuntu.com/12:54
belkinsa@dosas: http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Bluetooth+dongles12:55
belkinsaI think your problem is this one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130435/bluetooth-dongle-not-working-in-12-0412:57
dosasthanks a lot i will try12:58
neuroquoteshow me please ru channel ubuntu12:58
cfhowlett!ru|neuroquote,12:59
ubottuneuroquote,: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.12:59
dosasbut i cannot even get an output for  hcitool dev12:59
dosasDevices:12:59
belkinsa@Donsas Not a problem.12:59
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neuroquotethank u13:00
xtrizin tasksel what is the difference between ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu live cd ?13:01
belkinsaYou may not have installed?  try sudo apt-get install [program name].13:02
belkinsasudo get-apt install hcitool13:03
neuroquotei can't connect to the russian channel13:03
neuroquotewhat is it?13:03
belkinsaapt-get*13:03
belkinsaEr, never mind.13:03
neuroquote#ubuntu-ru :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services13:04
cfhowlettneuroquote, #ubuntu-ru13:04
belkinsa@neuroquote type in "/join #ubuntu-ru" without the quotes.13:04
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belkinsas anyone's latest version of Pidgin working on Ubuntu 13.04?13:05
belkinsaIs*13:05
neuroquote<belkinsa>, it's not work13:05
neuroquote:Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services13:05
Johnny_Linuxpeople cant read13:05
neuroquotehow to do it?13:05
Johnny_Linuxthe man pasted he cant join cuz of non registration13:06
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Johnny_Linux!register | neuroquote13:06
ubottuneuroquote: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode13:06
belkinsaThank you, Johnny.13:06
neuroquoteoh, thank u13:06
Johnny_Linuxnp13:06
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JimboPea!register | JimboPea13:07
ubottuJimboPea, please see my private message13:07
belkinsa@dosas ARe you there?13:08
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Nothing_MuchDoes Wine for Ubuntu armhf exist?13:09
schreberanyone playing around with 13.10 Beta 1 (Xubuntu specifically) and having some issue(s) with settings [adding a printer]?13:09
karab44ikonia: ! I have to show off! :)13:09
dionisiociao13:09
Nothing_MuchDoes Wine for Ubuntu armhf exist?13:10
karab44Guys I changed the Bluetooth dongle and my wacom tablet works marvelous13:10
info_guy_34fine morning/night people..I have a little question, how can i get a windows xp running online. And even if i log off or close the browser it continues working. Is there a free website or something, thx13:10
Nothing_Muchinfo_guy_34, I think you should update to Windows 7 or 8, Windows XP has less than a year before it dies, but I'm unsure as to what you're asking, do you mean a sleep mode?13:11
ikoniainfo_guy_34: it's not really anything to do with this channel.13:11
info_guy_34no i just mean is there a way i can have a windows in cloud?13:12
ikoniainfo_guy_34: you're in the ##windows channel already, that is the right place to ask13:12
cfhowlettinfo_guy_34, ask in #windows13:12
info_guy_34ok13:12
Nothing_MuchDoes Wine for Ubuntu armhf exist?13:12
ikoniano13:12
belkinsaThis is a Ubuntu support channel, nit Windows.13:12
belkinsanot*13:12
Nothing_MuchIs there a wine support channel so I can figure out if Wine for arm exists?13:13
Nothing_Much*ubuntu arm?13:13
ikoniaNothing_Much: "it doesn't"13:13
Nothing_MuchOh okay13:14
Nothing_MuchThanks13:14
smw__test13:15
karab44It's even more strange than I thought. I just removed and add again my tablet and it finally works.13:15
xtrizin tasksel what is the difference between ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu live cd ?13:15
karab44It works good on new and old bluetooth now.13:15
ikoniaxtriz: what do you mean, what's the difference ?13:16
xtrizikonia, how can i check what packages would be install if i select ubuntu live cd and when i select ubuntu desktop13:16
ikoniaxtriz: what do you mean "select ubuntu livecd" and select ubuntu desktop13:16
ikoniaxtriz: what are you trying to do13:17
xtrizikonia, i am doing minimal installation, and fired tasksel.13:17
ikoniaxtriz: right....so what is your question ?13:18
xtrizin tasksel there are two options, 1. ubuntu desktop and 2. ubuntu live cd13:18
ikoniaxtriz: what are you actually trying to do13:18
daniel_frhi13:18
xtrizxtriz, i am just learning things. i was experimenting by  starting installing ubuntu with minimal packages.13:19
xtrizikonia, ^13:19
xtrizi want to setup unity13:19
ikoniaxtriz: right....so why are you looking at the livecd ???13:19
ikoniaxtriz: just install the desktop13:19
xtrizikonia, i was curious so wanted to know what was the difference between ubuntu desktop and live cd.13:20
ikoniaxtriz: pretty much "the installed desktop" and the live media package kits13:20
daniel_frI just finish a fresh install full HD formated and black screen, by pressing esc I have this /dev/disk/by-uuid/8280A25C80A25687 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!13:20
ikoniadaniel_fr: it can't find your disk device13:20
daniel_frBut if i press exit13:21
ikoniadaniel_fr: not using raid by any chance are you ?13:21
daniel_frit boot normaly13:21
daniel_frno13:21
ikoniadaniel_fr: look in /etc/fstab and see what that uuid matches13:21
xtrizikonia, ok got it now :)13:21
daniel_frI think when i change for default params in bios i make somthing wrong13:22
daniel_frI try Fail-safe default13:22
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daniel_frikonia: 1/ I startup PC (black screen) I press ENTER, i got the message, then I have prompt (initramfs) I put exit And it startup on system13:27
xtrizikonia, how can i check under each category which list of applications will get installed for example 1. publishing application 2. photograph touchup and editing suite.13:27
ikoniaxtriz: they are just meta packages as I recall, so check the depends13:28
rickycHi, is Unity 8 testable for desktop yet13:28
ikoniadaniel_fr: so do what I told you to do13:28
daniel_frI don't understant how it boot on it after puting exit13:29
daniel_fr-t+d13:29
ChogyDandaniel_fr: if you are able to start, can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?13:29
ikoniadaniel_fr: I've just lost interest as I've told you the first step in debugging it13:29
xtrizikonia, how can i check the depends ?13:29
ikoniadaniel_fr: and you've not done it and keep talking about other things13:29
daniel_frI go to do this13:29
ikoniaxtriz: you're meant to be learning13:29
daniel_frbut I was on bios features13:30
xtrizikonia, ok sir :)13:30
* xtriz googles out13:31
ChogyDanxtriz: you should check `man tasksel`   there is a tasksel --task-packages thing13:31
ikoniaChogyDan: that's useful, didn't know that13:31
danielfrre13:31
danielfrikonia, http://pastebin.com/fahfKu4N13:32
ikoniadanielfr: I'm not interested13:32
ikoniaI didn't ask for a pastebin13:32
danielfroh13:32
danielfrIts ok13:33
ChogyDandanielfr: the next step would be to pastebin your `sudo blkid` output13:33
xtrizChogyDan, correct but for example the task is mail server, when doing tasksel --task-packages mail server  it doesn't works13:33
danielfrhttp://pastebin.com/Wtq5SQXg13:34
ChogyDanxtriz: from tasksel --list-tasks it is mail-server.  Make sense?  you need the - fwiw13:35
danielfrsame results13:35
xtrizChogyDan, awesome :)13:36
RalliasSo... I'm using ZNC 1.0+deb2ubuntu1 on a brand new ubuntu install in a xen container... and it's randomly disconnecting from the IRCd... what all can I do about this?13:37
ChogyDandanielfr: yeah, I dunno. :( sor13:38
Fra_Supercar83Hi everybody13:38
danielfrI don"t know where is my pb :/13:38
alnrI'm getting an error from apt-get update, "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 29B2064E7DF49CEF". I added the key with "gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 3E5C1192 && gpg -a --export 3E5C1192 | apt-key add -"  and apt-key list then shows "1024D/3E5C1192 2010-09-20    Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key" but I'm still getting this13:39
alnrerror. any ideas?13:39
desnaikelinuxmint13:39
ChogyDanalnr: are you sure it is for the ubuntu server?13:43
xtrizChogyDan, for packages having long names it doesn't work, eg virtual machine host13:45
xtrizi tired virtual-machine-host13:46
ChogyDanxtriz: check again, it is virt-host13:46
xtrizhow did you find that ?13:46
ChogyDanxtriz: tasksel --list-tasks13:47
xtrizChogyDan, ok got it now.13:47
xtrizthank you so much for making it easy :)13:48
ChogyDannp13:48
alnrChogyDan: i am not, now. when i googled for 29B2064E7DF49CEF, there was one hit, giving me 3E5C1192 but that looks like it is not for key 29B2064E7DF49CEF.13:48
ChogyDanalnr: I think it says in the apt-get update output.  These errors are ignorable btw13:49
alnrah ok, it says the following signatures couldnt be verified but then there are no following signatures. I had other key errors that were stopping upgrades before but maybe this one is harmless13:52
alnrjust did oneric > precise > raring13:52
hillaryi have just install ubuntu 12.04 in my laptop. it install successfully but it is not showing desktop items  what could be the issue?13:54
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hillaryThe screen is blank without any items to display13:55
hillaryanybody to help/13:56
Johnny_Linuxmaybe you burned the disc to fast13:56
Johnny_Linuxtry burning it slower than 12x13:56
hillaryThe same cd i have used to install in my desktop and it worked well13:57
Johnny_Linuxok13:57
ahmed_d13:58
ahmed_df13:58
zileara_ Burn it at 1x, just to be sure.13:58
ahmed_how to chat in nimbuzz13:58
zileara_ While it burns, you can meditate about your life and the choices that brought you there.13:59
schreberanyone having a similar issue trying to add a printer to 13.10 beta ?13:59
zileara_ I am having issues with skype, but my imaginary printer is doing ok.13:59
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SchrodingersScat!ubuntu+1 > schreber13:59
ubottuschreber, please see my private message13:59
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hillaryso it could be the speed i used to burn it?14:04
Johnny_Linuxnot if it worked before14:05
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hillaryso any suggestion?14:06
decciI am trying to follow http://www.mappian.com/blog/hadoop/using-hadoop-to-analyze-the-full-wikipedia-dump-files-using-wikihadoop/14:06
user82is there something like a "up" key in nautilus that goes to the folder ../?14:06
decci -inputformat : class not found : org.wikimedia.wikihadoop.StreamWikiDumpInputFormat Streaming Command Failed!14:07
decciAny idea how to fix this?14:07
hillarymy laptop just stop reading cd but it reads dvds. What could be the issue ubuntu 12.04 LTS14:09
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zileara__ There is a leak in my flat, so every time the neighbour takes a bath, it floods my kitchen. Can I ruin some valuables and sue the building owner for that?14:11
majorJzileara__: do you have root priveleges?14:12
Johnny_Linuxlol14:13
funky1hi there could someone help me out with a samba problem? i have described my problem and provided log files here i was hoping someone could help me i don't know what the trouble is with my samba setup i have described my problem and provided some log files here  http://pastebin.com/cXEvW5cU14:17
info_guy_34how can i have a ubuntu running always online working for me...i mean is there a way for me to have a cloud ubuntu?14:18
ikoniainfo_guy_34: what are you talking about "cloud" ubuntu14:19
ikoniainfo_guy_34: there are many cloud host providers, just use one of them14:19
santi_2010hello14:20
majorJso the entire debian packaging system will be thrown out and replaced with a myriad of tiny python scripts?14:20
santi_2010Does anyone now where to download Ubuntu 13.04 iso from a fastest server?14:21
ChogyDansanti_2010: maybe try bittorrent14:21
bwayneinfo_guy_34: you could simply run ssh only your machine and either have your IP address handy or use no-ip.com to setup a dynamic dns.14:21
santi_2010Thanks ChogyDan14:22
zileara__ Did we ever have skype on the repository , or am I imagining things?14:22
majorJso my applications will be able to run sandbox python from 13.10 on?14:22
info_guy_34bwayne i see sound bit difficult..14:22
bwayneinfo_guy_34: not really. it's just a couple of steps. install openssh, run sshd, open port 22, and away you go.14:23
bwayneinfo_guy_34: there are lots of tutorials on internets14:24
info_guy_34bwayne ok i'll search on those ..thx dude14:24
bwayneinfo_guy_34: no prob. i think you'll find it's pretty simple.14:24
majorJbwayne: sounds like a networking issue14:24
bwaynemajorJ: how so?14:25
bwaynemajorJ: info_guy_34 : the port forwarding in the router is thoroughly explained in any tutorial.14:25
bwayneit's trivial.14:26
majorJbwayne: right14:26
funky1could someone help me out with a samba problem? i have described my problem and provided log files here i was hoping someone could help me i don't know what the trouble is with my samba setup i have described my problem and provided some log files here  http://pastebin.com/cXEvW5cU14:26
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zileara__ If you are having trouble with samba, the best thing to do is imagine a large "square" for your steps, and then slowly make it smaller as you get better.14:28
user82majorJ, waht do you mean?14:28
zileara__ Eventually, you will be fit for a brazilian carnival.14:28
majorJuser82: i dont understand the question actually. cloud Ubuntu running always online wroking for me? what ?14:28
user82majorJ, about debian package system14:29
majorJoh14:29
majorJuser82: I heard that python scripts will run along side apps now not requiring them to install from root access or whatever and that means that maybe running mobile apps sandbox?14:30
zileara_ Why xchat wont let me in as root?14:31
gvozileara_Is it giving you an error message?14:31
mrrcpzileara_: prob your username14:32
mrrcp~root14:32
smw94let in as root ?14:33
Bonanzagvo, yes.14:33
user82ah majorJ thanks for explaining14:33
Bonanza"Running xchat as a root is stupid, you should create an user account, bla bla bla"14:33
mrrcpahh14:33
gvoBonanza: running most anything as root unless you have to is stupid, I agree.14:34
majorJuser82: i actully have no clue sorry mate. its like. debian stays but there is another script14:34
mrrcpyep14:34
zileara__"Running xchat as a root is stupid, you should create an user account, bla bla bla"14:35
mrrcpzileara__:  why run as root anyways14:35
mrrcp?14:35
majorJam i missing something or do i have to tinker with the light.dm to change my login screen wallpaper? in essence. how do i easily chang emy login screen wall paper? what is the command line for editing the lightdm file that contains the loginscreenwall paper if i need to?14:37
majorJis it the same file as the unity-greeter?14:39
trijntjehi all, I'm trying to use wine in windowed mode, but once I interact with the window I cannot escape any more14:41
HypnotiXwhere are the terminal shortcut commands stored?14:45
HypnotiXbecause i have a command that its not returning anything and i want to know what the linked path is14:45
bwayneHypnotiX: try 'which <command>'14:45
funky1could someone help me out with a samba problem? i have described my problem and provided log files here i was hoping someone could help me i don't know what the trouble is with my samba setup i have described my problem and provided some log files here  http://pastebin.com/cXEvW5cU14:46
bwaynefunky1: I ran a smb server some time back. I can't be of help. Don't understand your logs.  Sry.14:46
HypnotiXbwayne: ok it seems that the command is linked to a file that is a shortcut, but i dont think it leads to anything14:47
bwayneHypnotiX: what does the which command output?14:47
HypnotiX/usr/bin/yo14:48
bwaynetry 'file /usr/bin/yo'14:48
HypnotiXand that yo file is a shortcut14:48
HypnotiX/usr/bin/yo: symbolic link to `../lib/node_modules/yo/bin/yo'14:49
bwayneOK. 'file ../lib/node_modules/yo/bin/yo'14:49
heweiHow to enable the global menu of eclipse?14:50
heweiI'm using eclipse kepler14:50
HypnotiXwell with the .. its not working14:50
HypnotiXbut with the correct path it returns /usr/lib/node_modules/yo/bin/yo: a /usr/bin/env node script, ASCII text executable14:51
neopsycheStrange. Wireless manager keeps saying it cant add a new network14:52
hillaryAm still unable to figure out why my ubuntu 12.04 could not work on my laptop.It does not load desktop items14:53
neopsycheanyone help with wireless manager14:53
hillaryBut it install nicely14:53
bwayneHypnotiX: OK.  Perhaps try relinking it to the correct path.14:53
HypnotiXhow14:53
bwaynesudo rm /usr/bin/yo ; sudo ln -s /usr/lib/node_modules/yo/bin/yo /usr/bin/yo14:54
mrrcphillary: what do u mean does not load desktop items?14:54
smw94what is the lightest Dsktp Manager ?14:55
HypnotiXbwayne: still the same results running the command returns nothing14:55
HypnotiXmeh14:55
hillarywhen it boots up the screen just remain blank without anything. I mean desktopis just orange with mouse pointer only14:55
JimboPeaHi, having a problem on xubuntu 13.04. have a rtl8188ce wireless card and the speeds are low with it dropping out often. tried installing the driver off the realtek website which just disabled it. had to reinstall to fix. Can anyone help?14:56
bwayneHypnotiX: try running it directly with '/usr/lib/nob_modules/yo/bin/yo'.14:56
HypnotiXyeah same results14:57
HypnotiXi guess its broken14:57
bwaynepaste yo to a pastebin for me.14:57
HypnotiXhttp://pastebin.com/yTeP4R3T14:58
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john_johnIs it ok to ask for help with Linux Mint here since it's based off ubuntu or is it prohibited?14:59
funky1thx anyhow bwayne14:59
funky1anyone else maybe?14:59
funky1could someone help me out with a samba problem? i have described my problem and provided log files here i was hoping someone could help me i don't know what the trouble is with my samba setup i have described my problem and provided some log files here  http://pastebin.com/cXEvW5cU14:59
BluesKajjohn_john:  no14:59
john_johnblueskaj ok :<14:59
justinpeelwow.. made it here. anyone else's video all screwed up after the last set of updates?15:01
john_johnyes, mine15:01
mrrcpjohn_john: just ask15:01
justinpeelI just started up after installing updates last night. no menu bar on top. no dash on left15:02
mrrcpno one really cares15:02
justinpeelsystem is super slow15:02
houserI really cannot understand how people can say linux is the most stable system...seriously....ubuntu is the most unstable system i have ever used...it crashes minimum 3 times a day and i have to reboot...pretty much a joke. Also it cannot control the cooling fan so computer is awfully hot...and then there is the problem with my optimus graphic card...also dont work on ubuntu...most stable system...not really...sorry i just had to get t15:02
houserhat of my chest...15:02
john_johnmrrcp: okay, err so whenever I'm trying to add a ppa or install certain programs the terminal spits out that there is "no json object could be decoded"15:02
mrrcphouser: linux is the most stable slick15:03
housermrrcp, slick?15:03
mrrcpyour computer is just junk or not configured15:03
john_johnmrrcp: how do I configure it?15:04
john_johnOh you didnt answer me, sorry15:04
housermrrcp, its not junk its a lenovo w520...call that junk and you dont really know much about computers...Configured?? I installed ubuntu...that should be configuration enough if ubuntu should have any chance at all against osx and windows15:04
DaedricI have Ubuntu 13.04 with VirtualBox, but VirtualBox is not detecting my USB, I want to transfer some data from my system to my virtualbox.15:05
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gvodaedric: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-usb.html15:06
majorJhouser: you have the wrong iso installed maybe? thinkpads run ubuntu fine. what distro are you running ? did you install from cd or live usb etc?15:06
Daedricgvo, tried that, doesn't work.15:06
justinpeelokay.. another screwed up update. maybe I'll switch to fedora or centos.15:06
mrrcpno you john_john15:06
mrrcpnot15:06
mrrcplol15:06
john_johnyeah i realized lol15:07
housermajorJ, running 12.10 ubuntu desktop edition. installed from usb stick15:07
yeatsjohn_john: have you tried just manually adding that line to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list (or as a separate file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/)?15:07
mrrcphouser: linux isnt worried about osx or windows.. never has been and never will..15:07
john_johnyeats: yes, and it works but it doesn't really fix the bug though.15:07
mrrcpw52015:07
yeatsjohn_john: and this is Linux Mint, yes?15:07
john_johnyeats: yes15:08
yeatsjohn_john: okay - then you'll need to report that to them15:08
momin90909Hey everyone Ubuntu cant display Urdu correctly in firefox15:08
momin90909how can I fix it15:08
majorJhouser: use Unetbootin and create a new live usb with a good iso of 13.04 and you should be good. do a clean install15:08
housermrrcp, well...those are in fact the competitors which normal users are using ;) and will keep using as long as linux dont really work15:08
john_johnyeats: yeah I know, their channel is dead :/15:08
yeats!mint15:08
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org15:08
housermrrcp, so maybe linux should start worrying...15:09
mrrcphouser: lol sure15:09
majorJhouser: am running 13.04 desktop on a x220 no probs15:09
gvohouser for every one of you there are 100s that get it working just fine.15:09
housergvo, every one of me?15:10
mrrcphouser NORMAL USER15:10
mrrcphouser.. what version do you have loaded15:10
bwayneHypnotiX: is this a node.js script?15:10
mrrcplet see if we can figure out the prob15:10
housermrrcp, 12.1015:10
HypnotiXbwayne: yes15:10
gvohouser for every one of you guys that have problems ...15:10
mrrcpok15:10
mrrcphave you attempted the new version?15:11
mrrcpto use15:11
momin90909Linux works fine as long as you dont try to get into root15:11
HypnotiXbwayne: i installed yeomen the same at work on ubuntu and it worked, i have no idea why it doesnt work at home15:11
DaghdhaWhen i open software center i get 'package operation failed' i can't install anything it seems. ANy magic commandline to fix this?15:11
mrrcphouser: you should use 12.0415:12
mrrcpand see how that works out for you15:12
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housermrrcp, why would 1204 be better? because its lts?15:12
mrrcpyep15:12
momin90909houser: latest is best15:12
bwayneHypnotiX: well, I'm not familiar enough with JS to really parse it accurately. I'm supposing that console.log means to print to the screen.  But i'm not sure. Maybe there's a node.js irc channel?15:12
mrrcpUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS is a long-term support release. It has continuous hardware support improvements as well as guaranteed security and support updates until April 2017.15:13
HypnotiXbwayne: yeah, that channel is dead im afraid15:13
blub1Hi guys got some trouble with my touchpad on Macbook3,1 on Ubuntu Gnome 13.04 where can i get help? thanks15:13
mrrcphouser: even i had issues with the new 13.04 out of the box.15:13
mrrcp12.04 works with zero issues right out of the box15:13
housermrrcp, on which machine?15:13
mrrcphouser i have multiple computers15:14
mrrcpDell e4300 and a Lenovo t43015:14
mrrcpare the two laptops15:14
housermrrcp, when is the next lts due?15:14
bwayneHypnotiX: try mailing list then.  or re-installing. perhaps there are environmental variables that must be set. I just don't know. Definitely not a symlink error. Sorry. :(15:14
HypnotiXbwayne: thats anyway for trying15:14
bwayneMy opinion: LTS always the best.15:14
bwayneHypnotiX: no prob. we eliminated one possibility. that's always a good start.:)15:15
mrrcphouser: im not sure15:15
housermrrcp, which lts was the last one before 12.0415:15
momin90909but anyone know how to fix Urdu language rendering in firefox15:16
houserah 14.04 will benext lts15:16
momin90909and also are Ubuntu users increasing or decreasing over time15:16
MonkeyDustmomin90909  what country is urdu language from?15:17
housersweet...only 7more months b4 next lts :)15:17
mrrcpReleases 6.06, 8.04, 10.04 and 12.04 are the LTS releases15:17
momin90909@MonkeyDust: Pakistan15:17
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Daghdhahow can i force apt get to throw stuff away even if there are depndancy issues?15:18
MonkeyDustmomin90909  #ubuntu-in would be closest to ask for help on Urdu, i guess15:18
vltHello. What command will just show a completely black terminal screen without any cursor? Any quick idea?15:19
houserMonkeyDust, dist upgrade15:19
DaghdhaCan someone help me repair the ubuntu packages? I ran an update and now it is broken. http://pastebin.com/wurqKVSV15:22
streulmahello, sometimes I feel me sic working with Mac OS X, I like more and more Linux, and in our Community we use Ubuntu on the notebooks15:22
streulmaI'm the only one with Mac OS X, and feel me sic that I'm not working with Ubuntu :)15:23
netlarstreulma: I have OS X too15:23
mrrcp?15:23
streulmanetlar: I will come in to the Ubuntu Community :)15:23
streulmanetlar: tried Ubuntu on my Mac native, but I have the overheating problem, the notebook is very hot !15:24
netlarstreulma: I have an Ubuntu box too, not sure I will want to buy another Mac15:24
mrrcpwhy buy a 1000 paper weight15:24
MonkeyDustnetlar  streulma please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chit chat15:24
mrrcpwhen u can run ubuntu! for cheap lol15:24
Daghdhahow can i FORCE packages to be uninstalled despite dependancies?15:25
rodrigoCould some one help me with steam?15:25
DaghdhaIt's l ike i have circulair dependancies or something15:25
Daghdhaapt-get15:26
streulmathis is not offtopic, I would know how that I can reduce my hot Macbook15:26
blub1Hi, Cant load Synaptics Driver on Ubuntu13.04 Macbook3,1 Tauchpad not Working and Touchpad missing in SystemSettings. Anyone got idea how to fix?15:26
coolstarjust moved my ubuntu install to my SSD... and whoa15:26
coolstarinstant boot15:26
smw94 how to remove duplicate package list ? i've checked source list, nothing is duplicated15:26
smw94http://ubuntuone.com/1kPxu1yvG9QfIBFiNSsqEj15:26
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rodrigoIn Amnesia there is an option to change the sound to alsa. That solved my problem in that game. But there is another game where there is no such option. Is there a way to force using alsa?15:26
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brainheadi haven't been on irc since 2003. wow. anyway, is there a way to create folders on the desktop? i can do it in terminal, but i don't see the folder appear on the desktop15:30
brainheadi am running ubuntu 12.04 lts15:30
ekiwokbrainhead, I'm pretty sure tou have to change settings and it will display all from your desktop folder15:31
brainheadmaybe i need to 'downgrade' to gnome 2?15:31
ekiwokbrainhead, do you have gnome 3?15:31
ekiwokor unity? :>15:31
brainheadmy ubuntu is running unity15:31
deavCan I swap to a 64 bit kernel after installation of 32 bit Ubuntu Desktop?15:32
brainheadi prefer a messy desktop15:32
Ari-Yangdeav, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever :|15:32
Ari-Yangif you install a 64-bit ubuntu distro, stick with 64-bit kernels15:32
deavAri-Yang, I am asking if it's possible to perform an in-place migration from Ubuntu 32-bit (32-bit binaries, libraries, kernel, etc) to Ubuntu 64-bit15:33
brainheaddeav, sounds logical15:33
ekiwokbrainhead, it is the matter of settings in unity and gnome3, have you googled? you may install myunity from sources and then check show desktop icons15:34
BluesKajdeav:  yes if you install the OS to / ,and save you /home without formatting15:34
ekiwokbrainhead, it was asked before: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126540/how-to-add-a-show-desktop-icon-to-the-launcher15:34
BluesKajyou must format / of course. deav15:34
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deavyes I get that BluesKaj15:34
jackw411hey guys. i run ubuntu12.04 as my main development rig. i don' know alot about hardware support. basically, I want to purchase an external usb soundcard (preferably with some kind of volume knob to change volume) that will work with ubuntu12.0415:34
parapanhi fellows, can someone help me upgrade evolution in ubuntu 12.04 pls ?15:35
jackw411where would I find compatibility guides? everything I've found so far looks dated15:35
BluesKajdeav:  do you have / and /home partitions on the install ?15:35
brainheadekiwok, when i last tried to access askubuntu.org (from a google search) i got a message that the web site was down for maintanance.15:35
ekiwokBluesKaj, are you sure deav have to format / ? here is thread about it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6176/how-do-i-upgrade-from-x86-to-x64-without-losing-settings15:35
ekiwokbrainhead, works fine for me now15:35
brainheadi'll revisit the site. thanks!15:35
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BluesKajekiwok:  I just did it 2 days ago as an experiment , no problems so far15:36
Ari-Yang[11:33:02] <deav> Ari-Yang, I am asking if it's possible to perform an in-place migration from Ubuntu 32-bit (32-bit binaries, libraries, kernel, etc) to Ubuntu 64-bi---> ah, I see what you mean. Good luck~15:36
rodrigoWhen I play a game using pulse I hear a lot of clicks. If I knew that name of this problem I could Google that.15:36
agyzoneUbuntu 12.10 is very unstable ?15:36
Ari-Yangagyzone, I'm still using it and have no problems....15:36
Ari-Yangagyzone: ** OS: Linux 3.11.0-996-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "quantal" 12.10 **15:37
brainheadi like to stick to the LTS releases15:37
deavI was in a rush setting this machine up (so much so that I didn't notice that I was installing 32 bit Ubuntu) so no there's only one partition for /15:37
deavBackup /home, and back to the drawing board for me. Thanks for your time Ari-Yang, ekiwok, BluesKaj15:37
BluesKajdeav: then you have to do a clean install15:38
agyzoneI had the most basic of Wireless Network card issue ... This issue was not shown when I has installed Ubuntu 1015:38
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brainheaddeav, you might save more time by rushing through a reinstall to 64 bit rather than trying to convert from x86 to x6415:38
ekiwokdeav please notice some settings may be different for the same programs running on different architectures even x86 and amd6415:38
deavI am going to do that brainhead, backing up my home dir as we speak15:39
Ari-Yangagyzone, if you're upgrading from 10.... then you might as well install 12.0415:40
Ari-Yangno reason to install 12.10 now15:40
jackw41112.04lts -> Creative SB1300 Recon 3D V0.3 <- will this work?15:40
Ari-Yangand you'd be upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10 in several months15:40
BluesKajdeav:  make separate / and /home partitions , suggest using the manual partion method in Ubuquity15:40
agyzoneI am not upgrading .. i had previously installed ver 10, untill i realize that the updates were not avaiiable15:40
deavyeah, got no problem with that BluesKaj and I never usually use auto-installer. Was just rushing really15:41
agyzoneso i uninstalled it and installed ubuntu 12.1015:41
BluesKajdeav:  ok , good15:41
Ari-Yangagyzone, why install 12.10??? why not 12.04?15:41
Ari-YangI recommend you install 12.04. which is LTS (long time support)15:42
agyzone12.10 was the latest available ... so installed it15:42
jhutchinsAri-Yang: VSS15:42
agyzoneok Ari-Yang ... i will have formatted and isntalled 12.04 today itself :)15:42
agyzoneanother issue i had was with my Android Phone ...15:42
Ari-Yangagyzone, okay, good luck15:42
brainheadfinally i can see folders on my desktop. now i can get back to having a cluttered desktop. thank ekiwok.15:43
agyzoneWhen i connect it to the ubuntu 12.10, i cant detect it as a memory card15:43
agyzonethe phone I am using is HTC desire X ... please help me15:44
rodrigoIf I fix the problem is there a way to share the solution?15:45
jhutchinsagsrv: What does dmesg say when you connect it?15:45
jhutchinsrodrigo: http://blogspot.com15:45
jhutchinsrodrigo: You might be able to contribute something to the wiki.15:45
rodrigoThanks15:46
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danharibohaving a big problem with fglrx15:47
danhariboafter installing, something is trying to build the init images for 3.1115:47
danharibobut I don't have 3.11 installed any longer15:47
danharibo(and on top of that, fglrx isn't working..)15:48
guest1kk15:48
monkeyjuiceagyzone:  take a look at kio-mtp15:48
jackw411nobody know where to find up to date compatibility guides for things like external soundcards?15:49
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jhutchinsjackw411: Who would have written something like that?15:49
deavWhere do I get the alternative installer these days? I am going around in circles and can't find it on http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/15:50
jackw411jhutchins: no idea, but seeing as there are plenty of hardware guides for linux in general, (mostly out of date)15:50
jackw411i figured somebody might have an up to date reference15:51
clue_hjackw411, true there are support pages for hardware with ubuntu, but try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards15:52
jackw411clue_h: amazing, thank you <--- jhutchins - that's who writes things like that15:53
clue_hjackw411, fingers crossed your sound card is included ;]15:53
__0x57__hi all is there a proper way to install ruby or is it just apt-get15:54
jackw411clue_h: i'm figuring out which to buy, I spend ALOT of time listening to music while I code, I've managed to spark out my motherboards audio by kicking the line in port :x15:55
jackw411so quick fix is to buy an external till I update the rig15:55
badassdoes anyone know if the samba configuration supports asterisk / wildcard for the include option?15:55
badasssomething like include=/etc/samba/config/*.conf15:55
parapanhi fellows can someone help me upgrade evolution in ubuntu 12.04 ?15:55
clue_hjackw411, i'm doing i similar thing before i get a usb tv stick dvb or w/e15:55
rodrigoOk, found a solution here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=92054915:55
rodrigoWill try to post it somewhere later.15:56
rodrigoBye15:56
clue_h__0x57__, i checked apt-get install ruby15:56
ekiwokis ubuntu good distro for pendrive full installation?15:57
__0x57__ls15:58
jhutchins__0x57__: We would reccommend using apt.15:58
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badass^ ?16:00
PhysicistGreetings. I would like to know how can I activate a partition to install one system. I already make a partition iwth all files wich will be installed.16:01
mrrcpbrb16:01
HypnotiXBWorld: i figuredout what the problem was16:02
HypnotiXbwayne: even16:02
HypnotiXi had another program called node installed that was in conflict with nodejs16:03
PhysicistGreetings. I would like to know how can I activate a partition to install one system. I already make a partition with all files wich will be installed.16:03
PhysicistExist a option to make this partition bootable on ubuntu 13.04?16:04
jhutchinsbadass: Pretty easy to test.16:04
jhutchinsPhysicist: If it has a valid /boot and kernel it should be detected by update-grub.16:05
avisi seem to be missing canonical key accept rings for updates on 12.04.3.  anyone know how i can easily receive and add via command line ?16:06
jhutchins!br16:07
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.16:07
AlexPortableI'm missing basnhee private/teletext decoder16:07
AlexPortablebanshee*16:07
AlexPortablehow can i install it?16:09
AlexPortableit's not in sudo apt-get isntall banshee-extension-16:09
badassjhutchins: I've obviously tried the asterisk16:10
badassI'm asking if there are any wild card options that will allow such a thing16:10
comradzillaaanyone know of any good free virtual linux boxes?16:10
smw94vmware16:10
comradzillaarunning vbox is eating up too much memory ;/16:10
AlexPortablecomradzillaa: virtualbox16:10
AlexPortableoh16:10
comradzillaai mean online ones16:10
AlexPortableevery vm software will do that16:10
comradzillaai hear there's a way to access free online boxes16:10
AlexPortableyou mean vps'es?16:11
deavcomradzillaa Amazon EC2 Free-Tier16:11
comradzillaai think?16:11
comradzillaathanks deav, i'll do some research on that16:11
AlexPortablewhy are there 3 bots here\16:12
comradzillaaanyone take the free online harvard class cs50?16:12
AlexPortablecomradzillaa: just ask your question16:12
comradzillaaAlexPortable: i think i just did16:13
usr13comradzillaa: What did you ask?16:13
OerHeksAlexPortable, that plugin is missing a long time https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10/+bug/51037616:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 510376 in gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu) "private/teletext-decoder plugin missing" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:14
comradzillaascroll up16:14
usr13no16:14
AlexPortableOerHeks: how can i install it>?16:14
OerHeksAlexPortable, not, as it is missing.16:15
usr13comradzillaa: Not an option.16:15
AlexPortableso how can I fix it?16:15
AlexPortableI want to play a movie16:15
OerHeksAlexPortable, you can play a movie, just no teletext.16:15
jhutchinsAlexPortable: WHat about mplayer or vlc?16:15
mrrcpvlc is the best16:16
POoy :))16:16
comradzillaausr13 i'm looking for a cloud based linux box to use while i'm learning to code16:16
POoubuntu116:16
comradzillaathis amazon one requires a CC16:16
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ASHER1Help please16:17
ASHER1how i see port from this16:17
ASHER1sudo iptables -L16:17
ASHER1?16:17
jayjoe199xquit16:18
jayjoe199xexit16:18
ASHER1:\16:18
ASHER1how i can see other port16:18
usr13comradzillaa: This is Ubuntu support so your question is off-topic for this channel, (this channel is for Ubuntu support so you have to ask questions about Ubuntu in specific here). You could try ##linux16:20
ASHER1someone please tell me?16:21
AlexPortableOerHeks: no it's not playing16:21
AlexPortableOerHeks: it refuses to play because the plugin is missing16:22
usr13comradzillaa: If you want to see what ubuntu looks like, you could try:  http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/  (It is a virtual tour.)16:22
Ari-YangAlexPortable, I do not recommend VLC at all, and if somebody tells you it's the best, that's biased...16:22
AlexPortableAri-Yang: huh? banshee isn't playing16:22
Ari-YangAlexPortable, I recommend any player from the mplayer family (mplayer, mplayer2, or mpv)16:22
Ari-Yangoh16:22
Ari-Yangmaybe run banshee via terminal to see if you get any errors?16:22
ASHER1someone know maybe what command on terminal ?16:23
AlexPortableGeen bruikbare decodermodule:16:23
AlexPortableVLC ondersteunt het "telx" audio- of videoformaat niet. Helaas kunt u dit niet oplossen.16:23
ASHER1sudo iptables -L i want see all ports16:23
AlexPortablevlc is playing but shows the error16:23
wolfHi everyone16:23
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jgkcler16:24
hdd1Hey yall! since i add mi data partition (where i store my data so i can access from both of my os) to fstab i been experimentig a really slow access to those files and also when i run commands theres take a while (also i have som VMS there). The contrast is with the speed/accessibility that i had when ubuntu took care of mounting (without automount) any body has any idea of hwo can i fix it or has experiments something similar. Thanks in advance16:24
usr13comradzillaa: If what you are really asking about is how to install Ubuntu in virtualbox, well, we could help you there and I just did a search and see there is a tutoral of sorts at  http://askubuntu.com/questions/142549/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-virtualbox16:25
tekzillahow to restart networking on ubuntu 13.04, from the console16:26
napscASHER1: -L will list all rules in your firewall... the last column displays the port/service information16:26
usr13tekzilla: service netwworking restart16:26
tekzillausr13: ok thanks, still used to initscripts16:26
usr13/etc/init.d/networking restart #But preferred method is to use service16:27
usr13... and it is shorter, (fewer keystrokes).16:28
hdd1service networking restart16:28
hdd1but with some configs it breaks up16:29
usr13tekzilla: Actually, I think the initscript only accepts start and stop and so it would take two commands to restart that way, so it would be a lot less to use service.16:30
usr13tekzilla: I think RedHat and SuSe and Debain and Ubuntu and other Ubuntu derivitives (and others) use service.16:31
hdd1usr13: ups yeah usr13 init.d support restart16:31
usr13hdd1: Well, I dono but if you just do command  /etc/init.d/networking  #With no arguments, it should tell you.16:32
tekzillausr13: i'm on debian and still use initscripts, and can restart networking that way16:32
tekzillabut i guess i could use the service command on debian too16:33
usr13tekzilla: Ok, I stand corrected.16:33
hdd1usr13: or check the script16:33
usr13tekzilla: Well, it is up to you.16:33
tekzillayeah i'm just used to the initscripts, but thanks for the input :)16:33
usr13hdd1: I think 12.04 uses force-reload16:34
usr13But the script reports "Usage: /etc/init.d/networking {start|stop}"16:35
usr13I see that you are correct hdd1, I just tried it, but it complains "Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces"16:37
gasshowhat name does 13.04 go by16:37
hdd1gassho: did you poen a google tab?16:37
hdd1gassho: raring ringtail16:38
usr13gassho: You mean what name?16:38
usr13Raring Ringtail16:38
gasshoy thank u both :316:39
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Avgva2hey16:49
SinSHello16:49
SinSAnybody there16:49
Niciosup16:49
Avgva2me16:49
blazemore!anyone16:49
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.16:49
POo!anyone16:50
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.16:50
Nicioping here16:50
submanfrom the command line, where is the location of my dvd drive?16:51
NicioD:16:51
POo /media16:51
submanI'm trying to copy it with dd.  Do I put in /media/usr/the dvd name?16:52
parapanhi there - configure: error: Package requirements (gio-2.0 >= 2.34.0  - can someone figure this error ?16:52
submanI'm not sure how /media works with the dd command.  It doesn't seem to.16:53
submanLet me ask this another way then.  How to copy a dvd with the dd command?16:54
POosubman, http://kvz.io/blog/2007/08/01/make-iso-images-on-linux/16:55
submanPOo, that does not work16:55
submanUbuntu has changed the way a dvd/cd is mounted now16:56
POowhy not!!16:56
submanIt is under /media/user/name of dvd16:56
submanThat link is from 200716:56
POook w816:56
POosubman , 2011 , http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/archiving-cds-iso-commandline16:57
POo:))16:57
Nicioomg i dind know irc was alive lol16:57
OerHekssubman, dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/path/to/where/you/want/the/<name>.iso #if your dvd is sr016:58
submanWow, ok I guess burning from command line is insane now in Ubuntu16:58
POolol16:58
alex22hi everybody :)16:58
Niciohi16:58
POohi16:59
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alex22does anyone have eclipse? :)16:59
Hiigquick question...im running a virtual machine of ubuntu-server. no GUI. how do i change the resolution to 1440*900?17:00
OerHeksHiig, in VirtualBox?17:01
Hiigvmware workstation17:01
Hiigthe monitor settings in vmware are set to auto detecct17:01
Hiigand a maximum resolution of 2560*160017:01
Hiigthey were defaults17:01
OerHeksvmware is not in the repositorys, i don't know17:02
cuscohi17:02
xtrizhow can i launch system-settings from terminal ?17:03
cuscousing ubuntu 10.04 .. openssl seems to have a bug and php can't fetch some stuff over https? says: failed to enablye crypto17:03
OerHeksxtriz, i think you want gnome-control-center17:04
xtrizOerHeks, yeah that is what i was looking for :)17:06
HiigOerHeks: i should still be able to adjust the resolution from inside the VM, no? ive changed resolutions of GUI systems in vmware within the VM, so im assuming i should be able to do the same thing without a GUI. the question is where do i go?17:06
TrelI was told the mini install doesn't require PAE.  I still get the message about my processor not supporting PAE.  Is there ANY way to install ubuntu on a machine that doesn't support PAE?17:06
mzazaHello, when I am trying to connect to a server through SSH the ssh session is very slow in reading what I write. I mean typing a letter could talk a bunch of seconds, any ideas why?17:07
coolstarmzaza: probably it's the network being slow17:07
mzazacoolstar: Streaming YouTube videos is fine from my end, and the server I am trying to connect to downloads 100MBs files in seconds.17:08
Artemis3Trel, i believe you need an older version, can't remeber if it was 12.04 or 10.04 and upgrade from there, keeping the i486 image17:08
OerHeksHiig, i think so too, but maybe someone with the answer is reading your question too17:08
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Hiigheh, hopefully17:08
coolstarmzaza: it's not necessarily speed though, there's latency too17:08
TrelArtemis3: doesn't that run the risk of causeing broken packages?17:08
Artemis3Trel, also im sure Xubuntu 12.04 doesnt need pae17:09
Hiigbeen looking all over google, and so far, the only guides there are appear to be under the assumption that the reader actually knows how to use linux17:09
kostkon!pae17:09
ubottuTo use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info17:09
kostkonhmm17:09
Artemis3Trel, no risks :) its just another kernel image17:09
kostkonTrel, what kind of processor is it17:10
TrelArtemis3: I'm talking about doing multiple dist-upgrades17:10
Artemis3Trel, you need to use the ubuntu upgrade system, iirc the update-manager, ubuntu supports upgrades directly from lts to lts17:10
gvokostkon: try finding a non pae kernel for ubuntu17:11
OerHeksTrel, fast way is install Xubuntu ( supports CPU without PAE) and install ubuntu-desktop afterwards >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE17:11
TrelXubuntu now requires PAE17:11
TrelI tried that already17:11
Artemis3Trel, if you instal minimal, with bare packages, these upgrades should take no time17:11
kostkonsomething like this? http://www.webupd8.org/2012/05/how-to-install-ubuntu-1204-on-non-pae.html17:11
mzazacoolstar: So, no debugging steps should I follow which would let you if it's network problem or something wrong somewhere else?17:11
gvoI think the only thing that you can find is the server version without PAE17:11
Artemis3Trel, 12.04 doesn't :)17:11
OerHeksTrel, the 12.04 version does not, 13.04 does17:11
coolstarmzaza: pingtest.net17:12
Trelkostkon: I know the 12.04 version doesn't, that's what I was asking about with broken dependencies from multiple dist-upgrades17:12
kostkonTrel, are you currently on 10.04?17:12
Artemis3Trel, with 12.04 you don't need to upgrade, stay with 12.04 and use ppa for the occasional package17:12
TrelI'll try the 12.04 minimal, out to go try now17:13
kostkonTrel, what's your cpu? just asking17:13
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mzazacoolstar: http://www.pingtest.net/result/86093515.png17:18
coolstarmzaza: there you go17:19
Nothing_MuchWhat does this mean: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ1NjY17:19
coolstarmzaza: 883 ms ping is really slow17:19
mzazacoolstar: mmm... So it's my ISP then17:19
mzazacoolstar: Thanks dude :)17:19
coolstarmzaza: np17:19
Nothing_MuchWhat is Intel doing with XMir?17:20
Nothing_MuchWhy did they stop supporting Canonical or stop supporting XMir?17:21
Nothing_MuchOh, I'm not in offtopic17:21
Nothing_Muchsorry17:21
Trelkostkon: it claims it's a centrino17:25
Treland BTW 12.04 minimal still requires PAE17:25
kostkonTrel, :/17:25
Randy_OI've got a process that refuses to end, I've tried killall and system monitor end process. the process is steam. Any suggestions?17:25
blazemoreRandy_O: killall -9 processname17:25
kostkonRandy_O, try kill -9 pid17:25
blazemorekostkon's one is better17:26
Trelkostkon: if I try to boot the normal install, it 'crashes' (colorful line across the top of the screen) and if I try to go into commandline or expert install, PAE error.17:26
TrelI'm going to try 10.4 but I'm giving up after that17:27
kostkonTrel, are you doing this? "Boot from it, follow the steps, and choose linux-generic when asked to choose a kernel, and ubuntu-desktop to get the "default" Ubuntu installation the regular Desktop CD would have given you, just with a non-PAE kernel."17:27
MonkeyDustTrel  10.04 for destop is dead, !eol17:27
Randy_Oblazemore, kostkon: kill -9 got it, thanks a bunch.17:28
kostkonTrel, taken from here http://askubuntu.com/a/117751/165117:28
Trelkostkon: I do not get far enough to choose a kernel....17:28
kostkonTrel, oh ok17:28
TrelMonkeyDust: can you dist-upgrade from 10.04?17:28
Trelor does EOL mean I can't do that17:28
kostkonTrel, i think you can. the repos are still up. have you tried lubuntu??17:30
TrelI'll try xubuntu 12.04, it says i386, so hopefully that would work.17:30
kostkonTrel, lubuntu. forget about xubuntu17:30
Trellubuntu is PAE17:30
kostkonTrel, damn17:30
TrelI can't understand the logic behind making the installers PAE.17:31
gvoThere are 32 bit versions of lubuntu17:32
kostkonTrel, the logic is that most new systems come with >= 4GB of ram and 100% of the cpus are pae capable17:32
kostkonTrel, but even old cpus are pae capable, from pentium II and up, the exception being some models of pentium M17:33
gvohttp://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/precise/release/ shows a non pae kernel (x86)17:34
Trelgvo: and yet it still gives the error about not having PAE when I use it17:40
Trelkostkon: and apparently some models of centrino17:41
submanOerHeks, Thanks, that worked for me!17:41
morph3x.17:41
kostkonTrel, old centrino models were pentium m based, newer im guessing were core duo17:41
TrelWhich would explain that part at least.17:42
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kostkonTrel, yeap17:42
OerHekssubman, have fun17:42
gvotrel how interesting17:49
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gvoTREl: Mint XFCE version apparently works with non PAE http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=13410917:53
B5GeekI am trying to install Splashtop server to a remote server but I can't find splashtop using apt-cache search.  The apps.ubuntu page says that its in the repos.  Any suggestions?17:57
parapanhi folks can someone help me to upgrade glibc to latest version ?17:57
kostkonparapan, what for?17:58
parapankostkon: I get an error when trying to configure evolution 3.8.5 in ubuntu 12.0417:58
kostkonB5Geek, ubuntu system settings, select software sources, in the 3rd party software tab enable every repo you can seee listed there17:59
kostkonparapan, paste the error and maybe someone will be able to help you17:59
kostkon!paste17:59
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B5Geekkostkon: all extra repos have been added.  Remerber I am accessing via CLI only17:59
B5Geekenabled rather then added18:00
parapankostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6075837/18:01
kostkonB5Geek, strange i can't find it either18:01
bosyihi18:02
B5Geekkostkon: good i'm not the only one18:02
B5Geek=)18:02
kostkonparapan, are you installing it from the repos?18:02
bosyiwere is the best place to talk with people about printer indicator/ hp printers support18:03
OerHeksB5Geek,  This version of the Splashtop Streamer supports Ubuntu version 12.10 and 12.04; currently there is no support for other versions of Ubuntu or other Linux distributions > https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/raring/splashtop-streamer/18:03
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Cache_MoneyWhen i start my machine, open the terminal, and then open SublimeText2 ($ subl) it ties that terminal instance.  For example, if i close the terminal it will close SublimeText2. Can I stop that from happening?18:03
B5GeekOerHeks: odd.  Thanks for the link18:03
parapankostkon: ...directly from 3.8.5 sources provided by gnome18:04
gvoCache_Money: man nohup18:04
SchrodingersScatCache_Money: screen is also nice18:04
Cache_Moneygvo: thanks18:05
gvoSchrodingersScat: That's great if you need to get back to it, but nohup uses less resources18:05
gvouses fewer resources18:05
kostkonparapan, i think you can't do anything about it other than upgrade to a newer ubuntu release18:06
ooorpwguys, please help me. I can't see wifi channel 12 :(( ubuntu 12.04 (eepc 1215n)18:06
ooorpwhow to fix it? ((18:06
kostkonparapan, or maybe find a ppa that provides the latest version of gnome for 12.0418:07
parapankostkon: unable to find-it ..I search for several weeks ...only one PPA called straciatella ...but it upgrades from 3.2.3 to 3.4.2 ...18:08
mrrcpanyone here use virtual box on 12.0418:09
parapankostkon: problem is I need evolution with MS Exchange server 2010 .....from 3.8 on is a solved problem .....latest version are more or less buggy wht it comes with this integration ...18:10
OerHeksooorpw, some countries do not use channel 12 13 14 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels#Interference_Concerns18:10
kostkonparapan, ok18:10
parapanmrrcp > I do ....why ?18:10
ooorpwOerHeks: Ok. but how to turn it on? :)18:10
ooorpwOerHeks: I'm in Europe18:11
OerHeksooorpw, depends on the router i guess18:11
OerHeksooorpw, enable/disable channels is not really an user jub, that should be set automatic.18:12
gordonjcpooorpw: check for a region setting in your AP firmware18:13
ooorpwOerHeks: may be it because I've use English version of Ubuntu?18:13
* gordonjcp usually uses what would be channel -3 if it existed18:13
OerHeksNo, more likely your TZdata, or the TZdata of the router18:14
parapankostkon: any way thnaks for looking over the subject :D18:15
Aku506818:17
ASHER1i want please18:19
ASHER1help18:19
ASHER1how i remove iptables?18:19
AmpelbeinASHER1: "sudo apt-get remove iptables" - But why would you want to do that?18:21
ASHER1no18:21
ASHER1i want remove port18:21
ASHER1i set port 8018:22
felipe__Hi my friend, I am new in ubuntu...when I close the display appear this erros18:22
felipe__Unable to enumerate USB device on port 518:22
Johnny_LinuxASHER1,   http://gufw.org/18:22
Mace268Any ideas why I have to keep reloading ALSA when I change the volume (sound goes corrupt)?18:23
bluebomberIt appears I have two different versions of gstreamer installed; how can I check to see which version Totem is using?18:23
felipe__can i fix this error please Unable to enumerate USB on port 5 ?18:24
Ampelbeinfelipe_: That error appears when the driver that gets selected is unable to communicate with the device. You can use lsusb to check which device it is and, depending on what the device is, add a udev rule to assign the correct driver.18:27
felipe__Ampelbein, thanks18:27
bhaveshIs there a command to check if a PPA is already added from terminal?18:29
IW7DQRtest18:30
felipe__Amandil, only appear 4 usb devices18:31
OerHeksbhavesh, ppa's in use > cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list18:31
bhaveshOerHeks, thanks18:31
felipe__Amandil, but the error show the 5 usb18:32
alphashow to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 beta18:32
OerHeksbhavesh, all ppa's > cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*18:32
alphas?18:32
alphas?18:32
alphasHow18:32
alphas?18:32
FloodBot1alphas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:32
alphasok18:33
Ampelbeinfelipe_: The error shows on "port 5", which has nothing to do with the number of devices.18:33
mwallacesdHi there, I was working with usermod (backups are saved) and now I can't login and start recovery mode... How can I use de live cd to restore my bkp of /etc/passwd18:33
mwallacesd???18:33
bekksmwallacesd: Boot it, and revert your changes.18:33
Ampelbeinalphas: You have to upgrade from 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.1018:34
Ampelbeinalphas: There is no direct upgrade path18:34
mwallacesdbekks, i boot but use the option try ubuntu18:34
alphasok, thank you18:34
mwallacesdand cant see my bkp file18:34
jsdammmwallacesd : where are your backups ? (I mean, physically)18:34
mwallacesdin the same dir18:35
bekksmwallacesd: Then it isnt there nost likely.18:35
mwallacesd/etc/passwd_bkp18:35
mwallacesdI am thinking that I start the live cd in a wrong mode18:35
bekksmwallacesd: the /etc/... you see is on the live cd. you have to mount your harddisk and edit the file there.18:36
mwallacesdOYes18:36
bekksmwallacesd: No, you did it right until now.18:36
mwallacesdOK18:36
mwallacesdHow can I mount my hard drive?18:36
bekks!mount | mwallacesd18:36
ubottumwallacesd: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount18:36
mwallacesdThanks a lot! You sabe my day!18:37
mwallacesd=)18:37
mwallacesd*save18:37
wadAnyone else find that most youtube videos don't work, under Chromium on Ubuntu? If I run FireFox, the video works just fine.18:37
Marleneelibnetutil/libnetutil.a  is missing18:38
jsdammmwallaced : top toolbar : go -> Computer , then lookf for your hard drive. It should mount it18:38
CorvaxiaHas anyone been able to get steam voice chat to work through wine?18:40
SchrodingersScatCorvaxia: why not use steam native?18:40
CorvaxiaThe specific game I want to play on steam is windows only (Company of Heroes).18:41
Mace268Any ideas why my sound goes corrupt when I change the volume? I have to restart ALSA to fix it every time.18:42
CorvaxiaInstead of trying to get steam voice chat to work through wine I think I might try the pidgin steam plugin and go from there if it will let me use both steam and pidgin at the same time18:42
chris5000Mace268: bad driver?18:43
CorvaxiaBut getting a fully featured wine version of Steam would be ideal18:43
ozuxIs there any way to boot Ubuntu with degraded raid, by pasing options to grub? Like disabling raid at all?18:44
panthraxnationHi. New to Linux, having problems with wireless connectivity. Seems to connect for a few brief moments (long enough to perhaps load a webpage) and then it will suddenly stop loading any webpages or anything Internet related. The connection itself remains connected, but it's like it stops communicating with the internet or something. After about 5 minutes or so, it will let me load a webpage or so, only for it to immediately st18:45
panthraxnationI'm using Kubuntu, by the way. If that makes any difference. Anybody?18:46
cantomahey guys, when someone says "kernel version 3.11-rc5" is this: (a) kernel version 3.10 with patch 3.11-rc5 or (b) kernel version 3.11 with patch 311-rc5 ??18:46
[Gentoo]cantoma: its 3.1118:47
chris5000panthraxnation: use a program that measures RSSI to check your signal strength during these times when you're losing connectivity. and run an extended ping to 8.8.8.8. if the pings fail then the issue is with your actual internet connection. if the RSSI levels come back low then the issue is with your router/AP18:47
chris5000panthraxnation: no18:47
cantoma[Gentoo], that means (a) or (b) ?18:47
ozuxpanthraxnation: firt please do some tests, to make sure you connected to Internet? Local network or not, to do that, you can use ping tool18:47
ozuxpanthraxnation: aftr connected to wireless, or you suspect it is connected18:47
ozuxpanthraxnation: use; Ping 4.2.2.418:48
ozuxpanthraxnation: you should run in in Terminal18:48
panthraxnationWell I would suspect it was my actual internet connection but I am currently connected to the same wireless internet on all my devices just fine18:48
panthraxnationIts JUST this linux machine18:48
chris5000ozux: just said that18:48
panthraxnationThat is giving me issues18:48
kostkonparapan, :)18:48
ozuxpanthraxnation: nice, so we got half of way :)18:48
ozuxchris5000:   I was busy by typing ;)18:49
chris5000what wireless card panthraxnation18:49
chris5000and what kernel18:49
panthraxnationlemme check18:49
panthraxnationQualcomm Atheros AR2413/AR2414 Wireless Network Adapter [AR5005G(S) 802.11bg] (rev 01)18:49
panthraxnationDunno how to check for kernel version18:49
jsdammpanthraxnation : uname -a18:50
panthraxnationLinux Duality 3.2.0-53-generic-pae #81-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 21:23:47 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux18:50
panthraxnationchris5000: dunno if you saw my reply above or not. Gave the wireless card and kernel version.18:52
seynbtime to upgrade that kernel, playa18:52
panthraxnationOh yeah?18:53
ozuxpanthraxnation:  So, have you tested ping ?18:53
seynbyou should do aireplay-ng -9 -e ESSID18:53
panthraxnationNot yet. Where should I ping?18:53
ozuxpanthraxnation:  in terminal18:54
panthraxnationYeah I know but18:54
panthraxnationWhat address18:54
seynbthe gateway18:54
ozuxpanthraxnation:  ping any ip address, like 8.8.8.818:54
panthraxnationOk, I will have to disable wired connection for a moment so I can try that on strictly wireless.18:55
panthraxnationSo let me give that a shot and I will let you know how it went.18:55
seynbjust ifdown eth018:55
mwallacesdIt is done, I coud restart the system bekks. Thank you again. Can you telme how can I user correctly the usermod command? I was trying sudo usermod -d -m /home/newdirectory but the system returns directory not found.18:56
bekksmwallacesd: then you did not create the directory before.18:58
ASHER1i have problem18:59
ASHER1i not see the iptables config18:59
ASHER1:\18:59
ASHER1sudo nano /etc/sysconfig/ip6tables18:59
ASHER1nothing18:59
bekksASHER1: Whats the output of "lsb_release -a"?Please put it in a pastebin.19:00
ASHER1what pastebon19:00
ASHER1bin19:01
ASHER1i not see nothing19:01
ASHER1not conf19:01
FloodBot1ASHER1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:01
bekks!pastebin | ASHER119:01
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pranavits strange. i can access internet in terminal of my server. but when i log-into it using ssh from client-terminal, i can't even ping, wget, apt-get. what might be the problem ?19:01
usr13mwallacesd: usermod -d /home/newperson newperson19:01
bekksASHER1: Please put the output of "lsb_release -a" into a pastebin and give us the URL.19:01
Questany one knows good knowledge about https and networking?19:01
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bekksQuest: The apache documentation.19:01
Questbekks,  what?19:02
Questbekks,  no i need to discuss something19:02
usr13Quest: Just ask.19:02
Questhttp://masoodahmad.com/02.Session-Hijacking-Pt.2.mov how the hell can the email / password be visible in this middleman attack when the user was using HTTPS gmail website ?19:02
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bekksQuest: The apache documentation is a very good source of information. You asked for a source of information, I gave it to you.19:02
bekksQuest: There are ways to intercept the certificate, to fake it, to hack it, etc.19:03
Questbekks,  the certificate was not touched in that video19:03
bekksQuest: And it is not ubuntu-specific. And I am not going to watch the video. :)19:03
Questbekks,  i didnt asked you to19:04
QuestI invited people who want to discus19:04
bekksQuest: This is not the right channel to do so.19:04
QuestI would talk in #ubuntu-offtopic then now19:04
lopezany MILF's ?19:05
bekkslopez: You are in the wrong channel.19:05
lopezwhat do U mean?19:05
lopezwrong channen19:06
bekkslopez: This is ubuntu support - not your personal dating channel.19:06
submanAnd 'U' is spelled 'you'19:06
lopezMILF's can be supportive19:06
bekkslopez: Do you have an ubuntu support question?19:06
mwallacesdusr13, but I want to create a new user home directory then copy all files from the actual user and finally change the user name isted create a new user... It will work too?19:08
bekksmwallacesd: Create a new user, copy the config, done.19:09
smithzvI am trying to record audio output from a program using pulse audio, but pulse seems to not see any output even though I can hear it (via pavucontrol).  This is working on my Ubuntu laptop, but not my desktop.19:09
mwallacesdusermod -d /home/newperson newperso (-m is used in order to copy the user files to the new home directory)19:09
smithzvWhat tools do you know of that can be used to troubleshoot pulse audio?19:09
mwallacesdHow can I copy the confi?19:09
mwallacesdbekks,19:09
bekksmwallacesd: "cp ..."19:10
leoniehey, can someone tell me any easy program I can use to just add simple image effects to images picasa/instagram style?19:10
usr13mwallacesd: I've always just change the name of /home/user to /home/user.bak, create a new one, then create a fstab entry for it, reboot to see that it works ok and then just delete /home/user.bak19:10
mwallacesdbekks (I know how to user cp) I mean what happens with the user's permitions ???19:11
mwallacesdthen I will have to change file by file all the permitions???19:11
bekksmwallacesd: Thats depends on the option to the cp command you will use.19:11
bekksmwallacesd: And using "chown" you can even recursively set the correct owner/group.19:11
mwallacesdI am think how to combine cp with chow19:12
mwallacesdchonw19:12
bekksmwallacesd: chown19:12
mwallacesdI am think how to combine cp with chonw19:12
llu_hey19:12
bekksmwallacesd: You dont. You use it separately.19:12
mwallacesdok19:13
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mwallacesdusr13, it was the best recommendation19:18
mwallacesd=)19:18
ur0plhi19:18
mwallacesdThanks a lot!19:18
newbie123which ISO should I download?19:18
ur0plis there development for a ubuntu touch screen edition to compete with windows 8?19:18
usr13mwallacesd: Ok, well, just telling you how I do it.19:18
mwallacesdThis way works properly, with the other way I have to work more.19:19
mwallacesd=)19:19
bekksnewbie123: 12.04 LTS 64bit desktop. Or 32bit if you still have 32bit hardware.19:19
newbie123bekks: ok thanks man19:20
brahdudeDoes ubuntu still have network installation isos?19:20
chris5000brahdude:19:21
chris5000yes19:21
chris5000http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads19:21
FloodBot1chris5000: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:22
brahdudeThanks.19:22
submanI'm trying to backup an encrypted dvd but it doesn't seem to work.  I'm using acidrip and I've installed everything required as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVD%3A%3ARip19:23
submanwould dd work better in this case?19:24
lonewulf85hello everyone having trouble with an elantech touchpad on an AO722 with Ubuntu 12.04.2lts kernel 3.5.0-39-generic19:24
bekkssubman: Unencrypt it, and copy everything to your backup disk.19:24
submanbekks, the backup is to be on a hard drive.  How to unencrypt?19:25
bekkssubman: Depends on how you encrypted it.19:25
submanbekks, it is a dvd movie.  I did not encrypt personally.19:25
bekkssubman: Ah, so its illegal. Good luck.19:25
chris5000lonewulf85: what's the problem19:26
submanbekks, to backup is not illegal.  I own and keep the dvd19:26
jarvishi there !19:26
submanbekks, what if my dvd gets a scratch?  Buy a new one?????19:27
OerHekssubman, the DD command i gave you  will copy, including the DRM, so what is the problem, you can still play it on ubuntu ( with restricted extra's )19:27
lonewulf85chris5000, every now and then my mouse goes unresponsive I then need to reboot to fix it, also when there is an app that needs a mouse installed it says that I do not have one.19:27
submanOerHeks, I was just trying a gui method with more option.  Your method with dd will now be tried.  Thanks.19:28
crtwssubman, brasero will make an exact copy for you. Its GUI based.19:29
chris5000lonewulf85: sounds like a driverissue19:29
bekksk3b will do the same.19:29
john_johnbrasero gave me a corrupt live cd19:29
lonewulf85chris5000, I realize this could you assist me in solving the issue19:30
bekksjohn_john: You dont know wether the cd wasnt corrupted before.19:30
john_johnbekks: it was a new dvd disc, I created another one with the xfce burner tool (forgot what it's called) and it worked like a charm19:31
shdi'd like to compile 32-bit program on 64-bit machine. Let's say this program needs -lXrandr. How do i install 32-bit version of this library (from packages) ?19:31
bekksjohn_john: Which doesnt mean that the first medium was ok.19:31
john_johnbekks: it was the same medium :/19:31
bekksjohn_john: so you did use a cd-rw/dvd-rw?19:32
john_johnbekks: that was for something else19:32
bekksjohn_john: You cant use a cd-r/dvd-r twice.19:32
john_johnbekks: I know, you were the one who explained that to me earlier! :)19:33
bekksjohn_john: So your statement "it was the same medium" is not true.19:33
smithzvEmbarrassingly, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio solved my problem... thanks19:33
john_johnbekks: What? Why would two dvd-r discs of the exact same brand be different? The dvd-rw/r related issue I had earlier is not related to this and that was k3b not brasero19:35
john_johnstahp19:35
bekksjohn_john: Because a single dust element may have corrupted the burning process...19:35
submanOerHeks, Thanks again.  I will stick with dd!19:36
john_johnbekks: lol ok:<19:36
bekksjohn_john: That was no joke... :P19:36
john_johnbekks: dust y u do this to me19:37
shdok, nvm about this libs - i just had a mess in my compiled files19:37
JaskunI was wondering if anyone could help me out with a problem I'm having with Ubuntu and VLC?19:41
ElFizbaniowell can I?19:42
JaskunHaha possibly! just the first time being on here and didn't know how to go about it19:42
kostkonJaskun, just ask the question19:44
ASHER1i need help please19:45
ASHER1if i set this command19:45
ASHER1sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT19:45
ASHER1how i remove that??19:45
shd\q19:46
shd^^19:46
JaskunBasically I am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS with XFCE desktop. I'm using a samsung chromebook(ARM processor), and using crouton to run it. Now i have vlc installed along with the restricted package people talk about too. Yet it won't let me play any videos no matter the extensions. It opens does not start playing, and just hangs. I have to use task manager in order to close it. I just started using Ubuntu so my knowledge is limited so I 19:47
Jaskunreal silly and easy to fix. Any ideas why it would not be playing?19:47
ASHER1never mind i understand19:48
kubanchellow! How can i disable idel state in ubuntu 12.10?19:48
brad9001hello19:50
brad9001so i set up an email server and i can send email from it but i cant recieve it, ive troubleshooted everything and i cant figure it out19:51
brad9001i cant recieve any email at all19:51
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Jaskunany ideas?19:54
brad9001so i set up an email server and i can send email from it but i cant recieve it, ive troubleshooted everything and i cant figure it out i cant recieve any email at all19:54
bekksbrad9001: Did you check the logs of your mail server?19:55
brad9001and how would I do that?19:55
bekksbrad9001: By changing into the directory where the logs of your mailserver reside.19:55
Qalqihttp://superuser.com/questions/642347/windows-drive-is-shown-as-free-space-whie-installing-ubuntu19:56
Qalqisorry for spamming19:56
Qalqibut has anyone faced this before?19:57
brad9001@bekks no errors here19:57
bekksbrad9001: Then everything would work fine.19:57
brad9001I think it might be my router19:57
bekksI dont think so.19:58
bekksbrad9001: There must be some errors in your logs :)19:58
brad9001damn, will check20:00
brad9001see ya20:00
Jaskunis it just codecs on my part? I thought vlc installed them with the package though?20:02
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SupaYoshiheya20:08
SupaYoshiim using samba atm for file sharing between 2 linux boxes, transfer speed is decent20:08
SupaYoshiWhy should i Switch to NFS? :D20:08
paramhey20:10
kubanchellow. is it possible to disable all screen savers and idle state in ubuntu 12.04?20:10
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PastafarianAnyone know what the dev channel is?20:12
Pastafarianspecifically, ubuntu server20:13
paramHello !! i installed ubuntu 13.04 , but it didn't showed wi fi drivers in it,   how to fix this ?20:13
Pastafarianparam, wifi drivers are installed by default20:13
mithuunable to use wifi in ubuntu 13.04 ?20:13
Pastafariandid it work on a live disk?20:13
paramyes i knw, on 12.04 it worked fine,  but in 13.04 it didnt installed by default20:14
Pastafarianparam, that is highly unlikely.20:15
Pastafarianbut not impossible20:15
Pastafariandoes it work on a live boot?20:15
paramlet me check20:15
colby_Hello20:16
colby_What is this chat used for?20:16
Pastafariancolby_, read topic20:17
kostkoncolby_, this channel is for ubuntu support20:17
colby_oh.......20:17
colby_Actually I do have a problem20:17
colby_How do i get windows 7 back on my laptop after a full installation of Ubuntu?20:17
PastafarianThat isn't ubuntu support. I suggest googling it.20:18
PastafarianThere are plenty of detailled web tutorials for that.20:18
kostkonPastafarian, it is i believe20:18
Pastafarianyou have got to be joking20:18
kostkoncolby_, did you install ubuntu alongside windows20:19
colby_No20:19
Pastafarianhence20:19
path0genlol20:19
colby_Full install, replaced Windows 720:19
Pastafarianthen you need to get a windows 7 disk and do a full install of windows20:19
colby_I can't20:19
Pastafarianthen you cannot install windows 720:19
kostkoncolby_, you are asking help on how to install windows 7? not the best place to ask that question. nevertheless, after installing windows, you will need to restore grub20:19
colby_I don't have a CD drive, I have to use my USB20:19
Pastafarianunless you have a CD, USB and a key20:20
colby_I have a USB20:20
PastafarianGoogle windows 7 usb download tool20:20
Pastafarianuse that20:20
kostkon!recoveringgrub | colby_, just follow the instructions here:20:20
colby_Ohh20:20
ubottucolby_, just follow the instructions here:: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:20
Pastafarianand slipstream an ISO onto your pendrive20:20
colby_slipstream?20:20
Pastafariankostkon, depends, does he want both or just win 7?20:20
Pastafariancolby_, just follow the instructions for that tool20:20
Pastafarianits easy peasy20:21
colby_Ok20:21
kostkonPastafarian, im guessing yes20:21
colby_Bye20:21
Pastafariando you wish to retain ubuntu at the same time ?20:21
colby_Umm20:21
colby_No20:21
Pastafarianin which case, windows 7 usb tool, plug in USB20:21
Pastafarianboot from USB20:21
Pastafarianinstall windows 720:21
colby_Ok20:21
Pastafariando you have the windows 7 iso?20:21
colby_Well I used to20:22
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colby_I can get it again20:22
Pastafarianyou'll need it :P20:22
colby_Using my other computer20:22
Pastafarianthe other PC is windows?20:22
colby_Yes20:22
Pastafariangoodo20:22
Pastafarianthat should be straightforward then20:22
colby_Ok20:23
colby_I'm gonna try it, bye20:23
smaudetjrib: I fixed my issue in the end; the problem was again in the upstart-job, the -w option is passed to rpcbind, which tells it to 'warmstart' - this doesn't make much sense on boot, where you can't have a 'warmstart', so I just added a line to detect whether or not those files existed and if not remove the -w option -voila, no more message at boot time20:29
smaudetjrib: and I'm pretty sure the warmstart file not existing isn't a problem, for one its not being read into rpcbind anyways, and for two, its only written on rpcbind termination, meaning that it contains runtime information on rpcbind, hence the term 'warmstart'20:30
smaudetjrib: going to present to the debian maintainers and hopefully get a patch out. :)20:31
Dev_AntarHi20:32
Dev_Antaris there any way to minimize to try thunderbird20:32
jribsmaudet: cool20:32
xandreahi guys20:35
xandreaI have some problem to configure correctly split dns on my ubuntu server 12.0420:35
xandreaI want to install zimbra and I need to set up the dns coz I'm behind a firewall20:36
Avgva2hey20:37
xandreaciao20:37
Avgva2hi20:38
xandreaI have headache to solve that problem20:38
xandreaI cannot find where is wrong20:39
margI followed these instructions to change from dynamic to static and now my machine will not book anymore ideas?  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/20:40
ezechhello nice people, could you help me understanding how am I to install libstdc++.so library?20:41
xandreamarg: si .. it's corect20:41
xandreawhere is the problem?20:41
ezechI'd like to be able to search package containing libstdc++.so file, so I can apt-get install it20:41
syndicateWhat do after a fresh Install?20:44
MonkeyDustezech  apt-cache search libstdc*20:44
margwhat does the default /etc/network/interfaces look like in standard Ubuntu desktop 13.04 with a static address?20:44
blackwind_123hi all i doenloaded ubuntu gnome 13.10... and its kinda weird...!20:45
blackwind_123its a beta version20:45
ezechMonkeyDust: thank you, that was very helpful20:45
blackwind_123do anyone share same problem...?20:45
syndicateUbuntu has always looked weird.20:46
ezechI like how apt-cache located where this library should be, but somehow I'm still missing the exact file after installinb libstdc++6 and lib64stdc++ packages20:47
ezechcan I search after the '*lib/libstdc++.so.6' filename?20:47
Fyodorovna!find libstdc++.so20:47
ubottuFile libstdc++.so found in g++-4.4-multilib, g++-4.6-multilib, gcc-snapshot, lib64stdc++6, lib64stdc++6-4.4-dbg, lib64stdc++6-4.6-dbg, lib64stdc++6-4.7-dbg, lib64stdc++6-4.7-dbg-powerpc-cross, lib64stdc++6-4.7-dev, lib64stdc++6-4.7-dev-powerpc-cross (and 30 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libstdc%2B%2B.so&mode=&suite=raring&arch=any20:48
xandreahttps://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html20:48
xandreamarg… look above20:48
ezechFyodorovna: well, I do have lib64stdc++6 installed already, also can I search without engaging irc #?20:48
Fyodorovnaezech,^^^20:48
Fyodorovnaezaech, not sure what you mean # is for channels20:49
ezechFyodorovna: yes, and I want to be able to search it from within my ubuntu system, without going to #ubuntu20:50
ezechif that is even possible that is20:50
margxandrea, look above?20:52
Ampelbeinezech: For files not installed on your system, you might find "apt-file" useful.20:52
Fyodorovnaezech, I always install synaptic that is how I search or the web.20:52
xandreasi… look this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html20:52
Ampelbeinezech: Or look on packages.ubuntu.com, where you can search for package contents.20:52
ezechok, thanks for your help20:53
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DaviatorHello20:55
Daviatorany one there?20:56
blackwind_123need a suggestion... ubuntu comes in many flavours20:56
blackwind_123which one is the right version for programming , speed, and ease of use20:56
DaviatorI have the xubuntu and i think that this is the best choice :)20:57
syndicateI have Elementary OS, am I in the wrong room?20:57
krunkpirate+1 love xubuntu20:57
krunkpirateany distro with xfce will be good for lightweight.20:58
Daviatordo xubuntu xfce?20:58
syndicateyes20:58
Daviatorwhat the feature of xubuntu?20:59
krunkpirateits just ubuntu with xfce for the GUI XD20:59
krunkpiratemint xfce is good to and based off of ubuntu but it seemed xubuntu ran a bit smoother on older machines when i tested it.21:00
Daviatorwhat about lubuntu ?21:00
krunkpiratehavent messed with it much personally.21:00
krunkpirateyou can always grab virtual box and throw up a few vms to test them.21:00
Daviatori`ll try it, but a bit later21:01
Daviatordo some one what program in ubuntu is better for HTML writing?21:02
EndGameWOW21:03
EndGamewierd...21:03
TheUnnamedDudeI have problem with inverted screen light, is there a way to fix that?21:04
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FreezedSheenhello?21:05
belkinsaIs there any stable e-mail client that has working unity and indicator functions?21:05
TheUnnamedDudeLike thunderbird?21:05
justaguyhehe, i bought an USB wifi stick today and it worked instantly on ubuntu, there was a disc coming with it for drivers for windows 7 and I was like HAHA stupid drivers , i have no problems on linux21:06
belkinsaThunderbird doesn't what I want anymore, but yes, like it.21:06
KalelGreetings.21:06
belkinsadoes have what*21:06
belkinsadoesn't*21:06
blackwind_123one more thing i had 12.4 ubuntu... with the default logo being dispayed and with orange back ground21:06
blackwind_123which ubuntu flavor was it...?21:06
blackwind_123xubuntu or just UBUNTU...!!21:07
FreezedSheenI got a problem guys. i have a nvdia graphics card. and there are no driver for it where there are normaly. manual download links?21:07
blackwind_123or something else21:07
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ravenintel 82801db chipset + xubuntu 12.04 lts: no standby option. how to solve?21:08
belkinsaWell, after thought, is Thunderbird still being developed for Unity and Ubuntu?21:09
Antihi guys i changed the resolutions via terminal using xrendr but never saved the setring now i just rebooted the pc and it fires a black screen after loading21:10
Antican someone help me fix this21:11
wilee-nilee!xrander21:12
ravenintel 82801db chipset + xubuntu 12.04 lts: no standby option. how to solve?21:12
Antidont give me a bot pleasew just give me an answer21:12
wilee-nileeAnti, minda ah demanding eh21:13
wilee-nileeKinda21:13
Antisorry21:13
setuidWhat is supposed to go in these blank spots? http://cl.ly/image/3f3u3l0x0T2V21:15
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ezechI can see my problem now, the libstdc++ library is actually installed, but in old version, I'm using 10.something LTS ubuntu, thanks for helping, I can go forward now21:16
auronandacesetuid: gnome2 is no longer supported21:16
setuidauronandace, I undertstand that, this is Edgy Eft, but it's missing something21:16
kostkonsetuid, wow. 6.10?21:16
wilee-nileesetuid, what does uname -a show21:17
kostkonsetuid, that's not even ancient, it's palaeolithic21:17
setuidLinux ubuntu-610-64-esx-vm.gnu 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:17
setuidkostkon, I know, that's why it's in a VM21:17
kostkonsetuid, and what is it doing in there?21:18
wilee-nileesetuid, edgy is  notupported here.21:18
setuidkostkon, Use it for testing and older development, aligning packages to these versions21:18
kostkonsetuid, right21:18
setuidwilee-nilee, I get that, just wondering what package or applet might cause those 'missing' items in the screenshot above21:19
Dreamscapehello all, is there any new ubuntu version which is based on GNOME? I really dislike unity21:20
* setuid still uses sawfish, no other wm comes close 21:20
KalelI would like to enable hardware aceleration. I already have installed the latest amd beta driver. When I run the command to install the package, then it tries to reinstall fglrx... Shoud I continue? Will my fresh installed driver be uninstalled?21:20
chris5000Dreamscape: use gnom 321:20
chris5000Dreamscape: available on any version that can run unity21:20
setuidgnome3 is a mess21:21
Dreamscapeoh really? ok thanks i was unaware of tha21:21
Dreamscapethat*21:21
chris5000no prob Dreamscape21:21
blackwind_123if i want to run ubuntu in text/console mode what needs to be done21:25
KalelDid anybody saw my question?21:25
chris5000blackwind_123: ctrl+alt+f221:25
guntbert!text | blackwind_12321:25
ubottublackwind_123: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode21:25
ravenwhere are the command line settings to enable power management/standby?21:26
guntbert!patience | Kalel21:26
ubottuKalel: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/21:26
blackwind_123chris5000: thank you21:26
Kalelraven: Do you have installed tlp?21:27
chris5000blackwind_123: no problem21:27
blackwind_123guntbert:  was looking for some solution with touching the grub or any other kernel file thank oyu21:27
ravenKalel, dont think so whats that?21:27
blackwind_123chris5000: is there any way to know the flavor of ubuntu im using21:28
chris5000blackwind_123: cat /etc/issue21:28
blackwind_123thanks again21:28
chris5000np21:28
Kalelraven: Look: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285434/is-there-a-power-saving-application-similar-to-jupiter/285681#28568121:29
Kalelraven: I'm using it. My power is improved by 50%..21:30
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Kalelguntbert: Patince, hã..21:30
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ravenKalel, but this is not a thinkpad. ill try that anyway tnx21:31
Kalelraven: Don't matter. All laptops can accept it.21:31
ravenKalel, this is not a laptop too ;) but it has the chipset 82801db21:32
ciphersonwhat is the ubuntu help channel?21:32
Kalelraven: Ok.. :-)21:33
epsilonwasdHello!Does anyone here Asus N56VX? I have noticed this bug too and i dont know where can i find more info about that... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/108814621:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1088146 in upower (Ubuntu) "Asus n56vz battery state is wrong or battery not charging at all." [Undecided,Confirmed]21:33
kostkoncipherson, you are already in it21:33
tripelb12.04 i have some bat following my cutsor and it looks like a folder line from a directory window AND nothing i do makes it go away!! What's up?21:33
Kalelcipherson: Here..21:33
KalelI guess... I'm waiting my 'help'..21:34
kostkonepsilonwasd, tried askubuntu?21:34
tripelb12.04 i have some BAR following my cuRsor and it looks like a folder line from a directory window AND nothing i do makes it go away!! What's up?21:34
ciphersoni see ok then :) used to mint having two channels21:34
epsilonwasdNot yet, i am looking for some info about that because everybody can confirm that but noone solve :D21:35
Kalelcipherson: On ASK UBUNTU you can search for lots answered questions..21:35
epsilonwasdI will try that! thanks21:35
ciphersonThanks Kalel, im here to help :P thats all21:35
tripelbo can click thru it on the menu but not on Install Updates.21:36
belkinsaIs there a Xchat PPA that has the more up to date version that is released from SF?21:36
tripelbi cannot shutdown either. arg.21:37
MonkeyDustwhat's SF ?21:38
belkinsaSourceForge21:39
tripelb12.04 i have some BAR following my cuRsor and it looks like a folder line from a directory window AND nothing i do makes it go away!! What's up? o can click thru it on the menu but not on Install Updates. I cannot shutdown. i got it in Arxhive manager. i downloaded a GinkoCADx upgrade and was wondering how to install the program. (all i know is apt-get). help. i am getting deeper and all i wanted to do is see an x-ray.21:40
kostkonbelkinsa, couldn't find any. what do you need the latest version? is there a specific reason21:40
kostkonwhy*21:40
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chris5000tripelb: what desktop environment are you using?21:41
yofunso ermm im on debian and i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Without_CD and I have a feeling I done something wrong based on this.... http://pastebin.com/BRemBesA21:42
yofunso ermm im on debian and i am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux#Without_CD and I have a feeling I done something wrong based on this.... http://pastebin.com/BRemBesA21:42
yofunops...21:43
submanI followed this:  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/ on my server to change from dynamic to static, but when I tried it on my 13.04 desktop, I lost my networking altogether and my machine took 15 minutes to reboot.  Also, /etc/init.d/networking restart completely locked up my machine to a black screen with just a cursor.  Any ideas?21:43
tripelbchris5000: 12.04 gnomeclassic.21:44
chris5000tripelb: sudo /etc/init.d/xdm restart21:44
* tripelb is on amdroid here21:44
chris5000tripelb: /etc/init.d/gdm restart21:45
chris5000sorry21:45
tripelbchris5000: i cant click on terminal. poerebutton coming up. what is this mystery? (here i am on phone)21:46
smaudetHehe, I'm kinda glad I went into my system to find this obscure bug, in the process of reporting it and finding fixes for stuff, I've indentified about 15 bugs so far on my system. X_X21:46
tikibortxu /nick triii:tvbruu21:47
yofunokay im on debian. can I download a ubuntu file and make it boot at start?21:47
yofunon the harddrive?21:48
tripelbsmaudet: kudos21:48
auronandaceyofun: you can make grub boot from an iso file (don't ask me how though)21:49
yofunauronandace:  well can you point me where I could figure out how to add another option to the grub menu?21:49
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auronandace!grub | yofun21:49
ubottuyofun: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub221:49
chris5000tripelb: go into text only with ctrl alt f2 and type that command in21:50
antihi guys i really need help setting my display correct i cant boot in ubuntu it just boot and shows a black srceen21:53
submanNow that I've rebooted, /dev/sr0 does not point to my dvd player, ideas?21:54
antibefore this happend i set my display up using xrandr21:54
antican someone tell me how i can set back to default setting21:54
wiakhow do i tweak ubuntu so it wont freeze when i encode a video?21:54
antiusing ubuntu recovery21:54
submanOk, let me ask another way, how do I locate my dvd drive?21:56
wiakwont dmesg tell you?21:57
wiakhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-find-out-the-name-of-dvd-cd-rom-writer-blu-ray-device/21:57
wiak:)21:57
wiaksubman21:57
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submanwiak, dmesg | grep dvd shows nothing21:58
wiaktry the link21:59
submanwiak, and I need the /dev/xxx name21:59
wiakdmesg | egrep -i --color 'cdrom|dvd|cd/rw|writer' ?21:59
submanwiak, sr0 is not working21:59
wiakbroken drive?21:59
belkinsaDoes anyone know if a lastest build of Thunderbird has indicator functions (bubble mainly) working again?21:59
submanwiak, it mounts21:59
submanwiak, and worked before reboot.21:59
tripelbchris5000: i am on phone or tethered to phone. on 12.04 i cant go freenode because i dont have a client with sasl. i have been trying xchat irssi pidgin andchat adium conversation. cant figure bitchz or kvirc, what they run on how to install. but no success so far. i cant be the lone ranger.21:59
tripelbchris5000:  did not mean yo have ur name there.22:00
wiakany dvd in it subman? did you try other mounting methods?22:01
submanwiak, that link only gives the name, not the location.  If that is the right wording22:01
submanwiak, mounted fine22:01
submanwiak, I can open it in file manager22:02
wiakhmm22:02
wiakmeybe the dvd disc is borked?22:02
wiakdid you try another dvd disc or something22:02
wiakhmm22:02
An_Ony_MooseIs it possible to install ubuntu on a Macbook Pro without a CD or USB stick? (debootstrap comes to mind...)22:03
submanwiak, I'm watching the movie now22:03
wiaksubman good luck22:04
wiak^^22:04
submanThanks!22:04
wiakmeybe its locked becuse you are watching it?22:05
submanNope, tried that22:05
iUnifyHey guys, I can't find a way to remove the Workspaces icon from the Launcher - which I had done in the past.  Also, I figured it best to ask the RIGHT way to do this.22:08
tripelbif i use ctl alt f2 to go to a shell, how do i return to gui?22:08
OerHekssubman, i think you need to unmount the dvd before performing a DD22:08
matrixa1Does anyone know if there's an ubuntu PPA with Intel ICC v14 compiled kernels?22:09
Luyintripelb: ctrl alt F722:09
OerHekstripelb, ctrl alt F722:09
MonkeyDustiUnify  try unity-tweak-tool22:09
iUnifyah, thats what I used!  THANKS!  :D22:10
wilee-nileematrixa1, Niether would be supported here.22:10
matrixa1wilee-nilee, due to icc being a close sourced compiler?22:10
iUnifyAlso, I installed the Wikipedia lens for the Unity search... how does that work???  I don't get it?  I've not yet logged out/restarted....22:10
LuyiniUnify: I think you have to22:11
submanOerHeks, I tried a few unmount/remount cycles and it just does not work22:11
kostkoniUnify, what version?22:11
wilee-nileematrixa1, PPA's are not nor not stock kernels for releases, technically is all, does not mean no one will help though.22:11
kostkoniUnify, of ubuntu22:11
submanOerHeks, oh, here we go.  Now the magic is happening.  Very, very strange22:12
Turkey-HellasI need help with XChat22:12
wilee-nileeTurkey-Hellas, try #xchat22:12
Turkey-Hellasthanks22:12
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iUnifykostkon: 12.04 - also, it was unable to find unity-tweak-tool in software center and also with "sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool22:14
iUnifyforgot the other quote, sorry22:14
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iUnifyMonkeyDust: unable to find unity-tweak-tool in software center and also with "sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool"22:15
wilee-nileeiUnify, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215857422:16
OerHeks!find tweak22:17
ubottuFound: mousetweaks, freqtweak, gnome-tweak-tool, tweak, unity-tweak-tool22:17
wilee-nileeiUnify, earliest version I see is 12.1022:17
OerHekswilee-nilee +122:17
MonkeyDustiUnify  is that 12.04? i guess you have to look for myUnity, maybe a ppa22:21
submanOerHeks, that dd command does not really work with most dvd's now.  I've tried it on about 3 in a row now.  The disks work in dvd players, and can be watched on the same machine but dd fails.22:23
wilee-nileesubman, probably will work on a not formatted dvd22:25
submanwilee-nilee, It is a movie22:25
wilee-nileesubman, You pulling it off the dvd, I was think dd'ing to.22:26
wilee-nileethinking*22:26
submanwilee-nilee, no, it fails22:27
iUnifyHmm, I see nothing to make this change.... to get rid of the Workspace Switcher in 12.04.  I can't upgrade either cause it stops working.22:27
wilee-nileeiUnify, You looked in compiz?22:27
wilee-nileeat least to limit the desktops amounts22:28
iUnifywhat is compiz?22:28
wilee-nileeiUnify, It is the desktop manager, unity is a plugin in it.22:29
wilee-nilee!compiz | iUnify22:29
ubottuiUnify: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz22:29
wilee-nileeiUnify, I'm not sure you can remove the workspace switcher, but you can control the amount of workspaces22:30
submanwilee-nilee, it seems my dvd player must be the problem as it is failing now on ever disk.  Brand new though.22:30
submanwilee-nilee, and I can watch the very same dvd22:31
iUnifydamn i dont want to use workspaces at all22:31
wilee-nileesubman, I have not followed your situation fully, I just saw the dd problem.22:31
iUnifyi want to havethe icon gone namely though22:31
MonkeyDustiUnify  set the number to 122:31
submanwilee-nilee, no problem22:31
iUnifyMonkeyDust: from where?22:32
MonkeyDustiUnify  not sure where in 12.0422:32
iUnifyMe either....22:32
wilee-nileeiUnify, try ccsm in the terminal to see the simple compiz control22:32
dougbbiUnify: what icon are you talking about? compiz itself doesn't come with icons, that would likely be produced by whatever desktop environment you're using22:33
iUnifywilee-nilee: ccsm???22:34
wilee-nileeiUnify, or install compizconfig-settings-manager22:34
dougbbwilee-nilee: that's probably not his issue22:34
wilee-nilee!ccsm22:34
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz22:34
wilee-nileeiUnify, I don't use unity so my info is not exact, some of this you have to figure out at times.22:34
wilee-nileedougbb, He wants one desktop you would do it in compiz22:35
dougbbwilee-nilee: right, but he mentioned getting rid of some icon22:35
Avgva2hey22:35
wilee-nileedougbb, he already did right?22:36
dougbbif you can't switch between workspaces, then the number of workspaces isn't an issue :)  The question is, what icon is he talking about22:36
wilee-nileedougbb, he does not want to switch22:37
[Fudge]any channel for development using the ubuntu SDK?22:37
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ottalo!help22:37
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:37
ottaloi need cpanel22:37
wilee-nileeottalo, what is cpanel?22:38
CADREHey all. I'm trying to setup eCryptfs on Ubuntu and it's giving me hell. I had it generate a wrapped passphrase for me, but I can't seem to see what or where it is. It says the setup is finished and I should restart, but I don't want to do that until I know I've got my passphrase so I don't get forever locked out.22:38
ottalohosting site22:38
wilee-nileeottalo, Not a ubuntu issue, its a 3rd party.22:38
ottaloyeap22:39
bekkscpanel is not a "hosting site" - it is a software for administering and provisioning websites.22:39
ottalodont knw if you can helpme22:39
tripelbthe password used to unlock your computer no longer matches the password in your keyring.  HELP HELP a lost girl.22:39
bekksottalo: If you need it, then please refer to the cpanel support.22:39
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ottalohow can i do that bro22:39
wilee-nileetripelb, use your backup.22:40
bekksottalo: I'm not your bro - and cpanel has its own website and support.22:40
ottalook22:40
john_johnbekks: Am I your bro? <:22:40
ottalonop22:40
tripelbwhat do you refer to wilee-nilee22:40
ottalothats how i call friends22:40
john_john:<22:41
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ottalodont be mad at me22:41
wilee-nileetripelb, The backup of the OS you should have for just this sort of situation, preferably a clone.22:41
tripelbbro dude friend citizen comrade darling = hey pal22:41
Avgva2back22:43
wilee-nileeCADRE, why are you encrypting?22:43
reisiowilee-nilee: spy22:44
dougbbCADRE: you have backups of all your data that you're encrypting, right?22:45
tripelbwilee-nilee: i have no back up amd never heard a should. i guess you dont know how to change it.22:45
dougbbCADRE: Also, I've had very good results with truecrypt, you may want to consider using it instead22:45
wilee-nileereisio, even they have the tinfoil fez eh.22:45
bekkstripelb: So you changed your password, did you?22:45
reisiomade from real tin, not aluminium22:45
iUnifyWHen it says to edit " /apps/metacity/general" etc in gedit, how do I do that?22:45
iUnifyI cant open that area/find it22:45
tripelbwilee-nilee: that sounds like windows22:45
wilee-nileetripelb, I don't no, good sense just says always have a backup is all. ;)22:45
reisioiUnify: gconf-editor, probably, not gedit22:46
wilee-nileetripelb, What backups, lol.22:46
tripelbbekks that i did.22:46
wilee-nileetripelb, I started on open source for the record.22:47
tripelbbelks i tried what i remembered but noooo22:47
bekkstripelb: Then the password in your keyring does not match the password to unlock your computer anymore. The first is the old password, the second the new one.22:47
SupYoshidoes anybody know a good network mapping tool with webui like ntop?22:48
bekksSupYoshi: ntop is not a mapping tool at all.22:48
bekksSupYoshi: Do you mean nmap?22:48
tripelbbekks. what can i do? change it? kill the old one entirely? clone my user (ugh)?22:48
iUnifyReisio: Thanks, man.22:49
tripelbbelks i meant can i erase yhe keyring and begin again? all it does is hold my passwords right?22:50
bekkstripelb: I guess you can change it, yes.22:50
tripelbbekks, ok. what do i do first?22:51
bekkstripelb: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/10/change-login-keyring-password/22:51
smaudetjrib: patch submitted - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpcbind/+bug/122227422:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1222274 in rpcbind (Ubuntu) "Incorrect upstart-job configuration" [Undecided,New]22:54
* adom waves to everyone.22:56
jribsmaudet: nice work.  You might want to poke #upstart22:56
tripelbbekks asks for old password to change. is there a sudo override?22:56
usr13tripelb: There's not one.22:56
ghostx562hello fellers, quick question, when starting up my laptop with ubuntu 13.04 before it gets to the ubuntu screen, a black screen pops up and it says something about attaching a card, can i hide that screen?22:57
kostkonghostx562, only if you fix the error/warning22:57
usr13tripelb: My advise is to get rid of the keyring thing and just do without it.22:57
reisioghostx562: "something"? :p22:57
kostkonusr13, not a good advice22:57
ghostx562kostkon, i will reboot and see what the message is.22:57
usr13kostkon: Why not?22:57
kostkonusr13, a lot of software depends of the gnome keyring22:58
kostkonon*22:58
ghostx562reisio, will reboot to see what it is.22:58
usr13kostkon: If he no longer has a password to it, what good is it?22:58
jribcreate a new keyring, no?22:58
usr13kostkon: What software depends on it?22:58
adomQUESTION: is there an easy way to see how many desktops Ubuntu is currently using? a config file somewhere or a command i can output to check? using gnome+cairo-dock on ubuntu 13.04.22:58
usr13kostkon: Give an example.22:59
kostkonusr13, a lot trust me. e.g. network manager22:59
usr13kostkon: Try again.22:59
smaudetjrib: good idea22:59
reisioadom: wmctrl -l | grep Desktop | wc -l, probably23:00
kostkonusr13, why try again?23:00
reisioadom: mmm, maybe not23:00
usr13kostkon: Because network-manager does not depend on the keyring application.23:01
ghostx562reisio, says: INFO  cfg80211_attach : Registered CFG80211 phy23:01
reisioghostx562: that's to do with wireless, I believe23:01
usr13tripelb: I think the package name is just gnome-keyring and you can safely uninstall it.23:02
reisioghostx562: and therefore, possibly to do with networkmanager23:02
usr13kostkon: If you have a better solution for tripelb, please tell him.23:02
ghostx562reisio, i experience no issues with networking/wireless, only a slower boot time23:03
reisioghostx562: right, but something seems to be checking for something to do with wireless23:04
reisioso it may be a case of a default configuration to please most users, which you can modify23:04
ghostx562might be a driver issue im thinking.23:05
reisiothere's a lot of 80211 stuff in the kernel23:05
usr13tripelb: I think you can just go to System-> Preferences-> Startup Applications and uncheck gnome-keyring23:05
ghostx562i won't mess with it, it doesn't bother me too much23:05
ghostx562i don't want to mess with it and be stuck without wireless23:05
jribtripelb, usr13: is there a reason not to just create a new keyring?23:05
SupYoshifrt23:06
barrettdoes the exclude option on rsync just match strings anywhere in a path?  I want to exclude a folder "Torrent" in the copied directory, but if I do --exclude "Torrent" will it also exclude a file in another folder called fooTorrent?23:06
reisiobarrett: I'm sure you can test that yourself23:07
dougbbbarrett: best to experiment with the dry-run option23:07
jribbarrett: also, the man page is pretty detailed23:07
usr13tripelb: Looks like you can re-set gnome-keyring.  See:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/65281/how-to-recover-reset-forgotten-gnome-keyring-password23:08
dougbbgetting exclude syntax right is tricky, but generally the answer to your question is "no," however it depends on the paths you use in the rsync command23:08
Dr_Willisid be suprised if the default was to match *Torrent* for exclusion23:08
Extreminadorhi guys23:09
blackwind_123YouCompleteMe unavailable: requires Vim 7.3.584+.... i cant upgrade my vim....!23:09
Dr_Willis!info vim23:09
ubottuvim (source: vim): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is optional. Version 2:7.3.547-6ubuntu5 (raring), package size 808 kB, installed size 1907 kB23:09
mr-rich-76Anyonne else have issues with autohide with the launcher?23:09
mr-rich-7613.0423:10
Dr_Williswhat issues?23:10
usr13!info gnome-keyring23:10
ubottugnome-keyring (source: gnome-keyring): GNOME keyring services (daemon and tools). In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.3-0ubuntu2 (raring), package size 575 kB, installed size 3908 kB23:10
Agarrado!info yomomma23:10
usr13"is optional"23:10
ubottuPackage yomomma does not exist in raring23:10
mr-rich-76Dr_Willis: launcher not re-appearing sometimes23:11
Agarrado!info higan23:11
ubottuPackage higan does not exist in raring23:11
pac1looking for AndersG23:11
Agarrado!info hygan23:11
ubottuPackage hygan does not exist in raring23:11
Agarradomeh23:11
wizbithi23:11
blackwind_123Dr_Willis: am using 12.10  , and my vim got stuck in 7.3 version , dosent matter how many times i reinstall it///23:12
wizbitim a windows user thinking about upgrading to ubuntu, am i in the right place?23:12
blackwind_123any idea why it is so , because of this i cant use YMC module23:12
Dr_Williswizbit:  this is ubuntu support - so yes.23:12
reisiowizbit: yup23:12
jribblackwind_123: you have the latest version in the repository.23:12
Agarradoyes you are wizbit23:12
[Gentoo]wizbit: well you can ask questions in here23:12
wizbitexcellent, i hear ubuntu is free of viruses?23:12
usr13wizbit: Do you have a question about Ubuntu?23:12
Dr_Willisblackwind_123:  perhaps thats the only version in the 12.10 repos.23:12
usr13wizbit: True23:12
[Gentoo]wizbit: yes23:12
AgarradoFalse23:12
reisiowizbit: close enough23:13
usr13!virus | wizbit23:13
ubottuwizbit: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus23:13
wizbitthey guy who invented ubuntu is a clever guy!! :-)23:13
Dr_Williswizbit:  viruses in general are not an issue with any linux disrtobution23:13
reisiowizbit: yes, they were clever23:13
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wizbitam i right in thinking that ubuntu will not spy on me like windows?23:13
usr13wizbit: (As you can see, some are not convinced, but yes, you are correct.23:13
reisiowizbit: pretty much23:13
usr13wizbit: Correct again.23:13
Agarradoi don't know about that23:13
Obi1hello23:13
blackwind_123Dr_Willis:23:13
wizbitexcellent, spy proof and no viruses :-)23:14
blackwind_123 but vim doesnt depends on the repo right...23:14
Dr_Williswizbit:  depends on what you define as spying. It does/can give feedback to the developers and have web site search  hits  by default23:14
AgarradoSElinux being from NSA23:14
reisiowizbit: there is an application installed by default that helps sell you things from amazon, but that's not really the same, and can be uninstalled23:14
Dr_Willis'spy proof' is a bit vague.23:14
[Gentoo]Agarrado: ubuntu dont use selinux23:14
dougbbwizbit: define "spy"  ... what types of things are you concerned about?23:14
reisioit does not 'phone home' in ways you wouldn't approve of23:14
usr13Agarrado: Really?23:14
reisioit's free, so has less use for that :p23:14
[Gentoo]does it?23:14
wizbiti heard that ubuntu never changes its file hierachy, it always stays the same with every release?23:14
wizbitso people can learn linux?23:14
Dr_Williswizbit:  you can most likely use ubuntu and not worry about most security issues you fight with on windows23:14
reisiowizbit: mostly, the Unix filesystem hierarchy is quite old and standardized23:15
Dr_Williswizbit:  ubuntu is linux.  theres been slight changes to the filesystem layout over the years23:15
john_johnConky is ubuntu related, right?23:15
Extreminadorguys where can i change the number of work areas ?23:15
wizbitace :-) im looking forward to wiping windows and upgrading23:15
reisiojohn_john: very peripherally :p23:15
usr13wizbit: Some of it changes a little, but yes, basically the same.  (It is a much more organized structur than what you are used to.)23:15
reisioExtreminador: in ordinary Ubuntu?23:15
Dr_Williswizbit:  you learn the fundamentals of linux and they should apply to most disrtos23:15
Agarradodo it wizbit23:15
Extreminadorreisio, yup23:15
Agarradothe only thing you'll miss are the games23:15
Obi1hi <Dr_Willis>23:16
Dr_Williswizbit:  test with a live cd. or install to a usb flash drive to play with it for a few days - is a good idea.23:16
reisioyou might not miss the games, even23:16
john_johnreisio: so I installed conky and created a file in my home directory, when I launch conky in the terminal it seems to start but I can't see anything on the desktop :<23:16
Dr_Williswizbit:  and be sur you got backups in case you decide to go back for some reason23:16
wizbitamazing how somebody invented ubuntu, lots of hard work must of gone into that23:16
[Gentoo]john_john: use conky -c /config23:16
usr13wizbit: There were some changes in how/where the initialization scripts were stored and started, but, not a major overhall.23:16
[Gentoo]if its not in the right place23:16
reisiojohn_john: I forget if the default Unity desktop even shows files23:16
morkyoull miss games, business applications, video editing, and about fifty other things, like ease of use23:16
Dr_Willisjohn_john:  how are you starting conky? theres the conky-manager tool on webupd8 or the omgubuntu site that makes getting conky going trivial. and easy to theme23:17
wizbitat least ubuntu doesnt copy anything, like microsofot23:17
Agarradoit's getting better though23:17
wizbitsoft23:17
reisioExtreminador: I think you'll want to install ccsm and use that to change it23:17
Obi1is any way to have gnome 3 to have insaled options simmilar to gnome 223:17
usr13wizbit: Yes, lots of work by lots of folks, (the developer base is world-wide, not just some company).23:17
dougbbwizbit, you may find it easier to install ubuntu to dual-boot with windows, that way if you find something critical that you cannot do in ubuntu you can still get it done in windows if you have to23:17
reisiomork: nanu nanu23:17
Agarradothe only thing keeping me from full linux usage is League Of Legends23:17
morkshuzzbut23:17
wizbitubuntu is original, not like windows :-)23:17
Dr_WillisObi1:  the latest gnome3 (3.8?) has some sort of gnome-2 theme/look i belive.23:17
reisioObi1: yes, but it's not a walk in the park23:17
usr13Agarrado: What is League of Legends?23:17
wizbitubuntu built from scratch :-)23:17
reisioObi1: it's much simpler to get Xfce to behave like GNOME 223:17
Agarradoa online game23:17
usr13Agarrado: Oh, a game.  Ok.23:18
[Gentoo]Dr_Willis: its just classic mode23:18
Extreminadorreisio,  does the software is called ccsm ?23:18
Obi1ok23:18
morkyoull also lose things like apple itunes23:18
john_johnTHank you Dr_willis I'll try that asap23:18
[Gentoo]dont forget quicktime23:18
morkso your apple devices wont work23:18
reisiowizbit: well, Ubuntu is a derivative of a Unix clone; Windows is a derivative of OpenVMS, basically23:18
Dr_Williswizbit:  not really.   ubuntu built up from work other linux disrots and devs and people have done over the years. with a lot of added in. thats how linux works23:18
Agarradoi think there's some package to deal with apple devices23:18
Obi1i try enlightment but darn thing won` display everything23:18
usr13mork: Apple devices won't work?23:18
reisioExtreminador: compiz config... settings manager, something like that23:18
Agarradoat least with the filesystem23:18
john_johnand reisio23:18
morkok23:18
reisioExtreminador: I think it's called ccsm in the repos23:18
morkive searched, havent found any23:18
wizbitubuntu is unix23:18
Dr_Willis!ccsm23:18
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz23:18
reisioExtreminador: if you can't find it by that string, just search for compiz23:18
wizbitubuntu is the king of unix23:18
usr13wizbit: Linux23:19
wizbitok23:19
wizbitubuntu is the king of linux23:19
reisioit's pretty popular23:19
Dr_Williswizbit:  ubuntu is LINUX.    Linux is UNIX-Like in design23:19
usr13wizbit: Unix is a bit different.23:19
morkit doesnt matter anyway, i keep a battered winxp machine in my garage for such things23:19
Extreminadorreisio, forget... last time i mess with compiz i broke unbutu completely and have to install it again23:19
wizbitwe should crown the guy who invented linux and ubuntu23:19
usr13wizbit: ... but very similar23:19
usr13wizbit: They did.23:19
kostkonExtreminador, what ver of ubuntu?23:19
Dr_WillisExtreminador:  all you needed to do was reset your users setting files.. not reinsgtall.. thats your windows training kicking in23:19
reisioExtreminador: you rarely need to reinstall a Unix system, you should've come here for help :)23:19
usr13wizbit: ... just teasing.23:19
Extreminadorreisio, i have...23:20
usr13wizbit: But it is pretty cool.  Try it and see.23:20
reisioExtreminador: should've, I was saying FFR :)23:20
Extreminadorreisio, i was here when that happen and it was23:20
wizbitubuntu is the king of linux23:20
reisioExtreminador: ah okay23:20
reisiowell hopefully they didn't tell you to reinstall, heh23:20
Agarradoextreminador es tuga?23:20
Extreminadorreisio, it was something with the grafic card or something23:20
ExtreminadorAgarrado, yes i am23:20
AgarradoxD23:20
usr13wizbit: distrowatch.com23:21
Dr_Willisstandard trouble shooting  path -> make a new user. see if they have same issue.. if they dont.. then its a problem with the problem user settings file. that are easially removed23:21
Dr_Willis!manual | wizbit23:21
ubottuwizbit: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/23:21
wizbitace23:21
Extreminadorreisio, i sm sure that we can use dconf for this (about the number os workspaces)23:21
Extreminadorreisio, i will look for the option23:21
reisiomaybe23:21
usr13wizbit: There are many others but none have a more sopisticated package management system and none are more well supported.23:22
kostkonExtreminador, there is already an option for it in appearance, if you are using 13.0423:22
wizbitone day i would like to create a linux distro and make money out of it23:22
Extreminadorkostkon, humm let me check23:22
john_johndr_willis: hmm when I try to add the repositories it gives me "IndexError: list index out of range"23:22
reisiowizbit: heh23:22
bekkswizbit: Good luck with it. :>23:22
wizbitnothing wrong with making cash23:23
Dr_Willisjohn_john:  unusual. whats the exact command you are using to add the repos?23:23
Extreminadorkostkon, forget i am using 13.0223:23
bekkswizbit: You should learn about the linux licenses before. :)23:23
wizbitok23:23
john_johnDr_willis: nevermind tried a command from another guide and it added fine23:23
wizbiti could call my distro ubuntu-extreme, if they let me :d23:23
Dr_Williswizbit:  good luck making any $$  ;)   thats sort of a main selling point  - the core of the os is free.23:23
wizbitmoney is my main focus, im not that bothered about the content23:24
Dr_Williswizbit:  so do you have an actual support question?  theres #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat23:24
Extreminadorwizbit, found it org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences23:24
Agarradowizbit try g4p23:24
AgarradoxD23:24
dougbbwizbit: if you want a Unix-like OS to use as a basis for a commercial product a BSD system has a much more friendly license, although there is a steeper learning curve23:24
morki want an ubuntu without the soying IMO23:24
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morkspying23:24
wizbitmost users like fancy GUI, thats enough :d23:24
bekksmork: There is no such spying.23:24
Dr_Willisive not seen any spying.. so i guess its done.23:25
Dr_Willis;)23:25
ozettehi, how can i install packages from sources that can not be verified because there's no public key available? I can't update anything right now..23:25
wizbitim going to create a fancy gui linux distro based on something else (because i dont have the know how) and try and make lots of cash out of it23:25
morki dont want anyone collecting info, ,  even if its anonymously used23:25
reisiowizbit: you can actually sell copies of Ubuntu as it is23:25
Pastafarianlinux distro23:25
Pastafarian>money23:25
bekkswizbit: Do you have an actual ubuntu support question?23:25
Pastafariangood luck23:25
Dr_Williswizbit:  so do you have an actual support question?  theres #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat....23:25
kostkonozette, common error on some mirrors, try checking for updates again23:26
bekksmork: Then deinstall the software you dont like.23:26
morki dont know how :(23:26
ozettekostkon, aha23:26
Agarradopackage manager23:26
wizbitim thinking i could call this distro winbuntu23:26
bekksmork: Uninstall the shopping lenses using your package manager.23:26
Dr_Willismork:  so you really dont know enough about the system to know what its doing sounds like.23:26
Dr_Willis!noads23:26
morkthanks23:27
wizbitwinbuntu - based on debian23:27
morkthats a good ideas23:27
morkif i uninstall that it wont "break" everything?23:27
Agarradowinian23:27
AgarradoxD23:27
Agarradono mork23:27
bekksmork: No.23:27
morkta23:27
wizbiti could get credit from all those clever people who put hard work into code23:27
Dr_Willis!adlens23:27
ubottuIf you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ23:27
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Dr_Willismy wife likes the shoppiong lens.. makes it easier for her to spend my paycheck23:28
qinhaha23:28
Agarradobeta23:28
Dr_Willis13.10 does some MAJOR improvements in the lens management area also. ;)23:28
reisioheh23:28
ozettekostkon, odd, apt-get check says nothing out of the ordinary, and an update still gives me the NO_PUBKEY23:28
morkit makes it easier for me to spend, and make financial contributions to ubuntu causes23:29
dougbbor, you know, just don't use lens?23:29
Pastafarianadlense is like normal packaged malware crap you get with a default windows install23:29
Pastafarianshould ask, not default install23:29
Dr_WillisPastafarian:  its not malware.23:29
morkpoint taken, men23:29
PastafarianIt's ok, they'll just leak anything you search in it ofc/23:30
bekksPastafarian: Which is not true.23:30
PastafarianI used to.23:30
Pastafarianit*23:30
Agarradojust uninstall it23:30
bekksPastafarian: Which is not true, too.23:30
Agarradoor install a spinoff of ubuntu23:30
Agarradokubuntu23:30
Agarradoxubuntu23:30
PastafarianI do23:30
Dr_WillisBubbaBuntu23:30
Pastafarianjust like I re install windows every time I get one23:31
Agarradothe lens come only with the default one, right?23:31
Agarrado*comes23:31
Pastafarianstill, its the same packaging crap you get with some installers23:31
bekksPastafarian: I never got one - so rethink your approach.23:31
Agarradojust a easily deletable package23:31
Pastafarianyou never got pre installed crap with windows on a new machine?23:31
Dr_Willisi think the search lens features are  being looked at by some of the other variants as a feature. but ive not paied muich attention to the  chats23:31
bekksPastafarian: Correct.23:32
Dr_WillisPastafarian:  its not the 'same' - so stop with the ranting23:32
Pastafarian;)23:32
Pastafarianno its just a toolbar23:32
bekksIt isnt.23:32
Pastafarianno its worse :P23:32
Pastafarianits not browser only23:32
bekksPastafarian: Whatever. Stop ranting.23:32
Dr_Willis!fud23:33
ubottuPlease do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt23:33
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Agarradowhat do you guys play now on Ubuntu?23:33
Dr_Willisbbl. got to work at my real job..23:34
Agarradoi used to play Urban Terror but got boring quickly23:34
morki got a shock the otherday, i thought i was anonymous somewhere, and this guy basically knew my name and where i lived23:34
morki was horrified23:34
Agarradowaiting for shadorun returns now23:34
Agarrado*shadowrun23:34
Pastafarianso EFF published lies?23:34
Pastafarianhttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks23:34
ozetteis there an apt-get or package manager channel?23:34
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bekksPastafarian: Read the "How to Disable Amazon Ads and Data Leaks" section before spreading FUD please.23:36
morkpeople that look at peoples ip's are a worry23:36
Agarradoexplain that better mork23:36
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usr13ozette: I don't think so.  What do you need?23:36
reisioozette: not really, but you could talk to the #debian people (on oftc for the official channel), if you want to talk specifically about things related to it23:36
morkwell, why would you do it?23:36
morkwhats the point?23:36
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bekksmork: Using a public ip - you should be aware you are using a public ip.23:36
bekksmork: And it has nothing to do with ubuntu.23:37
Pastafarianmy issue is not that it can do it, not that it can be disabled, it is that its on by default.23:37
ozetteusr13, reisio, ok, well thanks23:37
morkim aware, but whats the point of looking at somones ip?23:37
iUnifyHey guys, how do I hide the filesystem (looks like a plugged in usb drive) from my Launcher in 12.04?  I've done this before and forgotten how.... thanks!! :)23:37
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Agarradoyou can check what services they are running23:37
ozettei can't update my llvm related packages because the source can't be verified23:37
bekksPastafarian: Then create you install image where it is off by default.23:37
PastafarianiUnify, you mean it displayed on the desktop?23:37
ozetteit's a nightly23:38
Agarradoor check where he lives23:38
reisioiUnify: you could add it to fstab with the noauto option23:38
reisioiUnify: to /etc/fstab23:38
ozettefrom here: http://llvm.org/apt/23:38
smaudetSo I figured out what that poor fellow with the graphics driver's problems was yesterday - I completely forgot that dpkg will in fact read stuff from the current directory regardless of the switches you give it, so i.e. dpkg -l myfile will look for myfile in the current directory before looking in its database....23:38
PastafarianAgarrado, geoip is about at accurate at 50km23:38
smaudetnot a 'major issue' but certainly a critically confusing one23:38
reisio-l?23:39
bekksPastafarian: It is accurate up to < 1km.23:39
smaudetdpkg -l package - lists installed packages by the name of 'package'23:39
PastafarianDunno what sources you've been using because it's complete shite here23:39
bekksPastafarian: Whatever. Stop ranting and calling names.23:39
Pastafarianno one is calling names23:40
smaudethowever also not an ubuntu issue23:40
bekksPastafarian: You did. Ignore set. Bye.23:40
reisiosmaudet: hrmm, I always just did dpkg -l | grep23:40
smaudetreisio: that'd work too, it just involves more overhead :P23:40
mr-rich-76Anyonne else have issues with autohide with the launcher on 13.04?23:40
iUnifyIt is not on the desktop but in the Launcher, same icon as a USB23:40
smaudetreisio you can save yourself typing and just use e.g. dpkg -l ubuntu*23:41
reisiosmaudet: my poor 21st century processor will probably fail :p23:41
Pastafarianwell bekks cannot read then.23:41
reisiosmaudet: you just said that was problematic, though :p23:41
smaudetreisio: its problematic when there is a file named ubuntu in the current directory :P23:41
iUnifyAlso, I am unsure how to actuall perform the suggestion you've made reisio, but I appreciate it... any further assistence on as to how I'd go about making this happen?  No option in ccsm?23:41
smaudetso the guy from yesterday was running his commands from ~/Downloads, where he had an nvidia package downloaded23:41
reisiosmaudet: you said :)23:41
smaudetand so the dpkg -l nvidia* was giving complete garbage23:42
Pastafarianindeed23:42
smaudetworks find from most people's home directories though23:42
Pastafarianthat would explain why it was having the depd issues23:42
usr13smaudet: What is the file name?23:42
reisioiUnify: you copy a line in /etc/fstab and specify the UUID or LABEL of the FS of the device you're talking about23:42
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reisioiUnify: which /sbin/blkid will tell you23:42
usr13smaudet: The full file-name23:42
smaudetusr13: the poor sap who was having issues with his nvidia driver installs yesterday, remember?23:42
Pastafarianwhat exactly is iUnify trying to do?23:42
reisioiUnify: and put 'noauto' in the opts column23:42
smaudetusr13: I don't have an issue right now23:43
Pastafarianauto mount?23:43
reisioPastafarian: hide a device from the automount frontend23:43
morkso i type this in the prompt? : sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping23:43
Ineedhelphello?23:43
reisioIneedhelp: hi23:43
usr13smaudet: Oh ok.  Yea, I think I know the one.  I do not think he ever solved it, not here anyway.23:43
Agarradoyes mork23:43
Pastafarianmork, yes23:43
morkthanks, did you do it yourself?23:43
smaudetusr13: yeah I had a momentary brain fart and forgot why a dpkg command my bork23:43
smaudetran into it again today on my system and remembered ;)23:43
morkok, im doing it now to see the result23:44
Ineedhelpokay i have recently downloaded and installed ubuntu and for some reason i am getting an error while trying to install the flash player plugin?23:44
smaudets/my bork/might bork/23:44
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reisioIneedhelp: what error is that?23:44
Ineedhelpone second i am gonna try redoing it to get the error23:44
PastafarianI bet an "apt-get install -f" may help here23:44
morkactually, i must have already done it :D23:45
AgarradoxD23:45
Ineedhelpthe error i am getting is package depndencies cannot be resolved23:45
PastafarianIneedhelp, do what I said above23:45
Pastafarianinto terminal23:46
wilee-nileeIneedhelp, Have you tried the ubuntu-restricted-extras23:46
Agarradoit might be from the mirror you are using23:46
Pastafarianwith sudo23:46
Agarradoor what wilee wrote23:46
morkgrt, so what should i do next to make my distro cooler?23:46
Pastafarianand enable restricted extras23:46
reisiomork: spoiler23:46
morkspoile package23:46
Pastafarianmork, uninstall unity, install another DE23:46
Agarradospoiler, new rims23:46
mrrcpanyone here using conky?23:46
Agarradopaint job23:46
morkkde?23:46
Agarradoe1723:47
Pastafarianunless you mean cooler in a non heat sense23:47
Ineedhelpso just type this into the terminal? "apt-get install -f"23:47
Agarradoenlightenment23:47
wilee-nileeblower23:47
Pastafarianhave you enabled restricted extras Ineedhelp ?23:47
Ineedhelphow do i do that?23:47
Agarradosomeone paste a link to that23:47
wilee-nileeIneedhelp, sudo apt-get install -f"23:47
Agarradono23:47
Pastafariansudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras23:47
Agarradothe restricted extras thingy23:47
PastafarianThat should sort you out23:47
morkyeah i did that23:48
morkum23:48
morkcant locate spoiler23:48
mrrcphow do i get conky to boot at login23:48
Pastafarianmork, they were taking the piss23:48
morklol, ok23:48
mrrcpits not working with the startup applications23:48
Pastafarianmrrcp, you should be able to add it through settings23:48
Ineedhelpso do i do the restricted extra23:48
wilee-nileeIneedhelp, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras23:48
Pastafarianyes Ineedhelp23:48
Ineedhelpcomand first then do the other one?23:49
Pastafarianmrrcp, are other packages working with startup?23:49
mrrcpyea23:49
wilee-nileeIneedhelp, the -f is for broken or stopped package insatalls23:49
Pastafariancan you verify the command you use to start conky works from the terminal normally?23:49
mrrcpwell i dont have anything else booting on start23:49
mrrcpthis is a fresh install too.23:49
Pastafarianchances are your command is broken somehow23:49
mrrcpso im not sure why the command isnt working23:49
mrrcpconky -c ~/.conky/conkyrc_grey23:50
mrrcpis what i am using23:50
Pastafarianworks from terminal?23:50
mrrcpyes23:50
Pastafarianhmm23:50
Pastafarianstrange23:50
morkim going to bash command page, see yall later, thanks for the advice23:50
mrrcpyea no kidding23:50
Pastafariantry setting something else with it23:50
Pastafariansee if that works, start up apps might be broken23:51
wilee-nileemrrcp, conky in the startup applications will do it23:51
Pastafarianprocess of elimitation23:51
Pastafarianelimination23:51
mrrcpwilee-nilee: i have tried the startup application23:51
mrrcpdoesnt work23:51
mrrcpi launched terminal at startup to test and it worked23:51
mrrcpso23:51
wilee-nileemrrcp, Hmm, has evrytime here for 6 years, you have done something wrong or need a delay as well.23:51
mrrcpits got to be something funky23:51
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Pastafarianmrrcp, you can use crontab ofc23:52
Agarradoi don't get it23:52
Agarradois conky running?23:52
Agarradocheck the processes23:52
Pastafarianps aux | grep conky23:52
mrrcpyes23:52
Agarradosome desktops override conky23:53
Pastafarianits running? after startup?23:53
Ineedhelpwhat do i do to configure the ttf-mscorefonts-installer?23:53
Pastafarianor did you start it23:53
Agarradoat least it used to be like that23:53
PastafarianIneedhelp, what's it asking for?23:53
wilee-nileeIneedhelp, Just accept it.23:53
Agarradoconky writes to the root X window23:53
Ineedhelpit wont let me click ok23:53
Agarradoand the desktops just run on top of it23:53
PastafarianIneedhelp, hit enter23:53
mrrcpyes conky works fine when i use terminal to launch23:53
Pastafarianuse keyboard23:53
Agarradoblocking conky from site23:53
mrrcpits working now23:53
Agarradoahhhhhhhhhhhhh23:53
Ineedhelpenter is not working either lol23:54
OerHeksIneedhelp, use tab and space23:54
Pastafarianmrrcp, reboot it, and see if it opens conky at boot but you cannot see it23:54
wilee-nileeIneedhelp, You gotta hit the arrow keys or another I forget which.23:54
mrrcpok23:54
PastafarianOerHeks, they been jerking around with installers?23:54
mrrcpbrb23:54
Agarradoquti23:54
Pastafarianthought it used to simply just werk23:54
wilee-nileeIneedhelp, the arrow key than enter I beleieve.23:54
Ineedhelptab space then arrow then okay:P23:54
wilee-nileecool23:55
Pastafarianwell you need to select ok/yes and hit enter/space23:55
Ineedhelpi did23:55
Pastafarianit installing?23:55
Ineedhelpokay now correct me if i am wrong now after it is done installing i need to enter "apt-get install -f"23:56
Pastafarianbingo23:56
Ineedhelpto install flash player23:56
Pastafariansudo on the front23:56
Pastafarianit should restart the flash install23:56
OerHeksms core font installer with the 'windows-look-and-feel-installer', yes it is a joke from the programmers, Pastafarian23:56
Pastafarianand complete23:56
PastafarianHA23:56
Ineedhelpso sudo "apt-get install -f"23:56
Pastafarianwithout the " "23:56
Ineedhelpokay23:56
wilee-nileeIneedhelp, It is apt-get install -f and only if you have a broken package or a install stopped in the middle.23:56
Pastafariansudo means run the next command as admin/root23:57
Pastafarianapt-get is the package manager23:57
wilee-nileeIneedhelp, the restricted extras installed flash23:57
Pastafarianinstall is what you want it to do and23:57
Pastafarianwilee-nilee, it should have23:57
Pastafarian-f will make sure23:57
Pastafariansince it got stuck earlier23:57
mrrcpweird ...23:58
mrrcpok so23:58
Pastafarianis it running?23:58
Ineedhelpi got 0 upgraded 0 newly installed and 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded?23:58
PastafarianIneedhelp, no worries23:58
Pastafariantest if flash is working in browser23:58
mrrcpit launched but not with the correct conf23:58
wilee-nileeIneedhelp, Try your flash it should be installed.23:59
Pastafarianhuh23:59
Ineedhelprestart the browser right?23:59
Pastafarianyeah23:59
mrrcpit just launched the core confy23:59
wilee-nileeyes23:59
Ineedhelpbrb23:59
mrrcpnot my script23:59
Pastafarianthats very strange23:59
mrrcpPastafarian: do you use confy?23:59
mrrcpdoes this look correct?23:59
mrrcpconky -c ~/.conky/conkyrc_grey23:59
mrrcpconky23:59

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