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buddyhelloo00:09
buddyhello00:09
petete_hi people01:01
petete_i just updated to kde 4.11.1 and now i have to double click on the taskbar to switch windows01:02
petete_does anyone know how to fix it?01:02
petete_ok, found the bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32447001:06
ubottuKDE bug 324470 in widget-taskbar "Minimize/maximize by clicking taskbar entries requires double click." [Normal,Resolved: fixed]01:06
petete_and a workaround, disable tooltips01:07
mmdsy?01:48
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jesus_smasherdoes anyone know anything about how to fix the on going wireless bug?02:27
RTygartI have an older laptop, Kubuntu was a little much for it but it worked. Now I am giving it away and I want it to run as smooth as possible, I am thinking Xubuntu or Lubuntu. Suggestions?   02:41
jesus_smashernope02:42
RTygartlol02:42
Unit193RTygart: Specs?02:46
RTygartUnit193: 2 GB ram Duel cure 2ghz HP Pavillion 02:46
Unit193Either one, try them live and see which one you like best.02:47
RTygartI am leaning more towards Xubuntu, I will try that first. Thanks02:48
jesus_smasherxbuntu is fine02:58
jesus_smasheror if you want something thats can run on very low system specs you can use DaxOS03:00
jesus_smashersorry DexOS03:00
jesus_smasherdid you dl dexos yet?03:05
jesus_smasherits only 2mb03:05
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chris5000a04:35
QwertyKbHi, after installing 13.10 beta, it takes me to a grup prompt.05:10
QwertyKbI have noticed though that 13.10 detects my drive as /dev/sdb while 13.04 as /dev/sda ... and vice versa05:10
eagles0513875hey ikonia i didnt manage to find anything :( in any other mtp file06:30
eagles0513875hey guys is anyone in here :( i have 2 usb pen drives which  13.04 does not seem to be auto mounting as disks. the logs show that it is being detected just not mounted as a disk any ideas would be greatly appreciated. I have been looking in udev in relation to mtp and i havent found anything.07:06
eagles0513875seems like my issue extends to more then just pen drives07:20
eagles0513875it extends to my usb hard disk which i know works fine07:20
lordievaderGood morning.08:20
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eagles0513875lordievader: there is a horrible problem with udev08:22
eagles0513875lordievader: im having a nasty issue with updates that i installed and udev its not detecting any of my usb device be it pen drive or hard disk08:22
eagles0513875any ideas08:22
lordievadereagles0513875: Run "sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev" and see if they show up.08:25
eagles0513875lordievader: they show up in the sys log as it knows they are there it doesnnt mount them as a disk08:26
lordievadereagles0513875: So you can manually mount them?08:26
eagles0513875nope i cant08:26
lordievaderWhy not?08:26
eagles0513875i have no mount points08:27
lordievadereagles0513875: Then make a folder to be the mount point.08:27
eagles0513875lordievader: http://pastebin.com/4J4sj3HE08:28
ikoniathe problem is not mount points08:29
ikoniathe problem is udev does not see them as mass storage devices so does not create the device files08:30
ikoniaeagles0513875: think about what you are saying - this is nothing to do with mount points08:30
eagles0513875ikonia: i can confirm this happens even with my usb hard disk which i know works and partition table is good08:30
ikoniaeagles0513875: what has happened to you udev rules ?08:30
ikoniais there anything you are aware of that has/could have changed them08:31
eagles0513875nothing that i am aware of 08:31
ikoniado you have any PPA's or third party repos ?08:31
eagles0513875all i changed in my system was that i added a hot swap enclosure to my tower08:31
ikoniado you have any PPA's or third party repos ?08:33
eagles0513875ikonia: there are 2 repos called independent ones im not sure if those come are related  to the issue or not but all other 3rd party repos are disabled when i updated from a previous release08:34
ikoniaeagles0513875: what are independent repos ?08:34
ikoniaare they 3rd party repos ?08:34
eagles0513875yes 3rd party repos08:36
ikoniaok, so when I ask "do you have any 3rd party repos" the answer you give is "yes"08:37
ikoniaeagles0513875: what are the 3rd party repos you have enabled please. 08:37
eagles0513875let me disable them08:38
ikoniano08:38
ikoniaI did'nt ask you to disable them08:38
ikoniaI asked you what repos you had08:38
ikoniawhat good is disabling them after / during an investigation08:39
ikoniainfact - I'm out08:39
ikoniayou rush ahead always and make changes while people are trying to help you, 08:39
ikoniavery frustrating08:39
ikoniaand your inability to answer questions honeslty/clearly is unacceptable08:39
eagles0513875:( 08:41
MonkeyDusttrying KDE... where do i set the display brightness? system settings, and then?....08:45
lordievaderMonkeyDust: On a laptop you can use the Fn + <screen-brightness-keys>. Or you can go to System Settings -> Power. Its somewhere in there.08:46
Torch_hardware -> power management for my current setup08:46
MonkeyDustfound it, tnx08:49
anonymous_hello, i want to use the steam windows client on linux  playing games with optirun / primusrun  .... how can i make games use optirun under steam windows client on linux ?09:49
MonkeyDustanonymous_  better ask in #ubuntu-steam09:50
ikoniano09:50
ikoniathe windows steam client is nothing to do with #ubuntu-steam09:50
ikoniathis is a wine issue09:50
MonkeyDustall right!09:50
smartboyhwanonymous_, BTW, why can't you use Steam natively on Linux?09:50
anonymous_thank u very much , both of you :)09:50
ikoniaanonymous_: be aware that running steam client/windows games under wine is not something you should (in my view) consider as a solution09:51
ikoniaanonymous_: wine is a moving target for compatability 09:51
anonymous_because steam under linux just offers about 2 games worth playing :)09:51
ikoniaanonymous_: windows games = use windows 09:51
anonymous_every second i dont have to use windows im a happy guy :) 09:54
ikoniawell you need to be realistic about it09:54
anonymous_i am its more playing around getting it work then playing games :) im not a "hardcore gamer" anyway , but  i thank u very much for your advice ikonia :)09:57
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Guest85246ty11:14
Guest85246Could anybody help with my outgoing email on Kde.  It is not working11:15
Guest85246I will come back later to see if anybody is here.11:18
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MonkeyDustI saved a .jpg to desktop, it shows in Dolphin, but not on the desktop itself -- hints & tips how to do it?12:24
lordievaderGood afternoon.12:54
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davidbaumannHello14:20
lordievaderHey davidbaumann 14:20
davidbaumannSeems like default repo is broken?14:20
davidbaumannHi lordievader14:20
davidbaumannhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6079301/14:20
lordievaderdavidbaumann: That is not a repo broken, that is a broken package problem.14:21
lordievaderdavidbaumann: Have you tried what it suggests? (sudo apt-get -f install)14:22
davidbaumannHow to find out which package has the problem? Last thing I installed was some kde debug symbols (KDE crashed... please install debug symbold...)14:22
davidbaumannIs there a chance it will break everything?14:22
lordievaderdavidbaumann: It is probably the kdelibs5-dbg14:22
davidbaumannok I guess I will uninstall this package14:23
davidbaumannapt-get install doesn't allow me to uninstall (same error like above)14:23
davidbaumannshould I remove with dpkg??14:24
davidbaumannwait, doing an "apt-get install -f" now14:25
lordievaderdavidbaumann: No simply try "sudo apt-get purge kdelibs5-dbg"14:26
slatenailsapt-get uses dpkg so it wouldn't help :P14:26
slatenailsor rather, they use the same system but yeah14:26
davidbaumannok14:26
davidbaumannrunning apt-get install downloads 86MB through slow airport wifi now... have to wait :)14:26
lordievaderWell if it pulls in the necessary dependencies then that is fine too ;)14:27
davidbaumannI hope so :)14:30
davidbaumannAccording to the report wizard, kde dbg symbols have been installed correctly...14:31
davidbaumannapt-get purge kdelibs5-dbg shows the same msg like above... 14:31
davidbaumannThanks for your help. Need to go to my gateway now...14:44
BluesKajhey all14:53
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challachdoes soeone also have this problem with the double click on prógrams in the taskbar since the 4.11.1 update?15:21
challach*someone15:21
peteteyou just need to update again15:23
peteteis there a kde connect ppa?15:27
petetefor this: http://albertvaka.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/releasing-kde-connect-technology-preview/15:27
challachhello petete15:27
petetehi challach15:27
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challachu mean sudo apt-get update or with muon updater? tried these but there was no further update15:28
tsimpsonpetete: maybe you can convince smartboyhw to do that15:28
petetei got the update yesterday15:28
petetei don't use muon though15:29
smartboyhwpetete, god's sake, you're quick, I'm already packaging it here-.--15:29
smartboyhwBe patient though:P15:29
petetejust try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or the muon equivalent15:29
challachi did both but no change yet :(15:30
petetegreat, thanks smartboyhw15:30
petetechallach: you can disable the show tooltips option while you wait for the fix15:33
smartboyhwtsimpson, next time, please DO NOT think of me as some sort of packaging contact point-.-15:41
tsimpsonsmartboyhw: hey, you're the one that jumped on the package ;)15:41
challachthank u very much petete. this helps15:41
smartboyhwtsimpson, I know, but...15:42
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anonymous_hey guys i want to record spotify music with audacity  but it does not work ... can someone help me pls ?18:01
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eegoreis ther a theme importer for Kubuntu?19:28
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roberth1990hello I am new to kubuntu as a distribution20:09
roberth1990is there any ppa for latest nvidia blob driver without using the xorg-edgers ppa?20:09
roberth1990I am using raring20:10
BluesKajwelcome to Kubuntu roberth1990 . the nidia propriestry drivers are availble in the kmenu>applications >settings>additional drivers 20:11
BluesKajnvidia rather20:11
BluesKajanyway my spelling sucks today20:11
roberth1990I have no such app20:12
BluesKajsorry roberth1990 in my enthusiasm I gave te wrong directions , system instead of settings 20:13
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BluesKajmenu>applications >system>additional drivers , roberth199020:13
roberth1990but now my initial problem comes in20:14
roberth1990they are outdated20:14
roberth1990BluesKaj: they are outdated20:14
BluesKajroberth1990, which ones are available to you ?20:14
roberth1990304, 310, 31320:15
roberth1990Ill activate 313 as temporary sollution, brb...20:16
BluesKajro have you updated / upgraded since installing Kubuntu20:16
BluesKajroberth1990,^20:16
roberth1990only updated20:16
roberth1990brb reboot20:18
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roberth1990wellll20:23
roberth1990I rebooted, it wouldnt boot, boot the previous kernel version I was using and it booted at least20:24
roberth1990but I doesnt use the nvidia driver now20:24
BluesKajmapyth,  it's best to upgrade then dist-upgrade in the terminal to bring in any new kernels  and modules/drivers for your hardware 20:24
BluesKajroberth1990, ^20:24
roberth1990BluesKaj: what?20:26
roberth1990I tried searching for "nvidia" simply with apt20:28
roberth1990but tons of stuff20:28
roberth1990argh debian world is just so unneccesary complicated20:28
roberth1990what nvidia package is for the latest kernel?????????????????????????20:30
roberth1990I dont grasp this20:30
roberth1990okay now when I rebooted again with the latest kernel it somehow works20:35
roberth1990*ubuntu distros are like windows for me...20:36
BluesKajroberth1990, in order to get the lataest kernel in the terminal do , sudo apt-get update:sudo apt-get dist-upgrade20:38
roberth1990well I have the latest20:39
roberth1990according to the result of that command20:39
roberth1990and I use backports to get kde 4.1120:39
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BluesKajroberth1990, did you get the latest nvidia driver from the repos?20:41
roberth1990BluesKaj: not sure :S20:44
roberth1990nvidia 310 is activated according to that utility20:46
BluesKajopen muon and type nvidia in the search , you'll see nvidia updates there , choose the highest number , roberth199020:46
roberth1990BluesKaj: k.. 2 sec...20:47
roberth1990BluesKaj: version 310 is installed and in use20:49
roberth1990BluesKaj: but I cant get rid of the tearing which is was able to on arch linux with kde 4.11 and latest nvidia driver20:49
BluesKajroberth1990, does the nvidia 319 driver show up in Muon ?20:51
roberth1990BluesKaj: 313 is there... uhm I think20:51
roberth1990sorry20:52
roberth1990but debian based seems to be designed specifically to be as hard to understand as possible so I cant give you any good answer20:53
BluesKajyou have to install the 313 updates in Muon , then in the terminal , sudo apt-get install nvidia-31920:53
roberth1990BluesKaj: http://paste.kde.org/pe7a7e695/20:54
BluesKajerr sorry sudo apt-get install nvidia-313, roberth199020:54
BluesKajbeen a long day :P20:54
roberth1990http://paste.kde.org/p9d5a3087/20:55
roberth1990seems more like kubuntu is having a long day20:55
BluesKajdid you install the "nvidia 313 updates packge" in Muon ?20:56
BluesKajbrb , I have to reboot 20:57
roberth1990yep its there but not installed, shall I?20:57
BluesKajyes20:57
BluesKajbrb20:58
roberth1990Well I installed nvidia 31321:04
roberth1990using kde 4.11 backports21:04
roberth1990tearing is still there21:04
goodtimenice21:04
roberth1990and I suspect it is the old nvidia drivers who cause this since it doesnt happen on arch linux21:05
BluesKajwhich nvidia card , roberth1990 ?21:06
roberth1990BluesKaj: GTX 65021:06
BluesKaj,hmm, you should be able to run the 319 driver with that card , did actaully do a dist-upgrade to get the latest kernel/21:08
BluesKajmake sure you have the all the repos enabled in Muon , like third party and partners 21:09
roberth1990http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8Z7FtVdF21:10
roberth1990isnt that the latest for 13.04?21:10
roberth1990BluesKaj: are you refering to "pre released updates"?21:13
BluesKajno21:13
roberth1990well everything is enabled exept that repo21:13
roberth1990BluesKaj: no nvidia 319 in sight anywhere?21:14
roberth1990id rather liker 32521:14
roberth1990*like21:14
roberth1990anyone using the xorg edgers ppa?21:17
BluesKajsome ppl do , you can try it if you wish , but be warned we can't help if it mucks up your setup 21:18
BluesKaj!ppa | roberth199021:18
ubotturoberth1990: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge21:18
roberth1990.... /facepalm21:20
roberth1990ofc I know what a ppa is21:20
roberth1990I am asking about the quality of a ppa21:20
roberth1990if there anybody here to share their experience etc21:21
BluesKajI know you know what appa is , it's just warning , you're on your own , that's all21:21
BluesKajsome have had succes witht the 325 , but I think it's on the 13.10 beta121:22
BluesKajroberth1990,21:22
BluesKajI'm on 13.10 atm , but I'm running the 319 driver and it works fine so far21:23
roberth1990show me your uname -a output21:23
roberth1990BluesKaj: 21:23
BluesKaj3.11.0-5-generic #11-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 6 19:01:31 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 21:24
roberth1990well you arent exactly running pure 13.1021:25
BluesKajjust installed the beta1 , 2hrs ago21:25
BluesKajtotally clean install as well , roberth1990 21:26
BluesKajand what's the magda kernel you have is that some specialty kernel , roberth1990 ?21:28
roberth1990no its my hostname for my comp21:28
BluesKajodd that it's included there 21:30
roberth1990-a mentions a lot you see....21:30
BluesKajanyway , it's dinner time here , and I'm going log off 21:31
roberth1990well I took in use xorg edgers, and set opengl version 2.0 and it solved it21:34
roberth1990so must be *ubuntu specific bugs that causes tearing with opengl 3.121:35
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