[00:09] <buddy> helloo
[00:09] <buddy> hello
[01:01] <petete_> hi people
[01:02] <petete_> i just updated to kde 4.11.1 and now i have to double click on the taskbar to switch windows
[01:02] <petete_> does anyone know how to fix it?
[01:06] <petete_> ok, found the bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324470
[01:07] <petete_> and a workaround, disable tooltips
[01:48] <mmdsy> ?
[02:27] <jesus_smasher> does anyone know anything about how to fix the on going wireless bug?
[02:41] <RTygart> I have an older laptop, Kubuntu was a little much for it but it worked. Now I am giving it away and I want it to run as smooth as possible, I am thinking Xubuntu or Lubuntu. Suggestions?   
[02:42] <jesus_smasher> nope
[02:42] <RTygart> lol
[02:46] <Unit193> RTygart: Specs?
[02:46] <RTygart> Unit193: 2 GB ram Duel cure 2ghz HP Pavillion 
[02:47] <Unit193> Either one, try them live and see which one you like best.
[02:48] <RTygart> I am leaning more towards Xubuntu, I will try that first. Thanks
[02:58] <jesus_smasher> xbuntu is fine
[03:00] <jesus_smasher> or if you want something thats can run on very low system specs you can use DaxOS
[03:00] <jesus_smasher> sorry DexOS
[03:05] <jesus_smasher> did you dl dexos yet?
[03:05] <jesus_smasher> its only 2mb
[04:35] <chris5000> a
[05:10] <QwertyKb> Hi, after installing 13.10 beta, it takes me to a grup prompt.
[05:10] <QwertyKb> I have noticed though that 13.10 detects my drive as /dev/sdb while 13.04 as /dev/sda ... and vice versa
[06:30] <eagles0513875> hey ikonia i didnt manage to find anything :( in any other mtp file
[07:06] <eagles0513875> hey guys is anyone in here :( i have 2 usb pen drives which  13.04 does not seem to be auto mounting as disks. the logs show that it is being detected just not mounted as a disk any ideas would be greatly appreciated. I have been looking in udev in relation to mtp and i havent found anything.
[07:20] <eagles0513875> seems like my issue extends to more then just pen drives
[07:20] <eagles0513875> it extends to my usb hard disk which i know works fine
[08:20] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:22] <eagles0513875> lordievader: there is a horrible problem with udev
[08:22] <eagles0513875> lordievader: im having a nasty issue with updates that i installed and udev its not detecting any of my usb device be it pen drive or hard disk
[08:22] <eagles0513875> any ideas
[08:25] <lordievader> eagles0513875: Run "sudo udevadm monitor --environment --udev" and see if they show up.
[08:26] <eagles0513875> lordievader: they show up in the sys log as it knows they are there it doesnnt mount them as a disk
[08:26] <lordievader> eagles0513875: So you can manually mount them?
[08:26] <eagles0513875> nope i cant
[08:26] <lordievader> Why not?
[08:27] <eagles0513875> i have no mount points
[08:27] <lordievader> eagles0513875: Then make a folder to be the mount point.
[08:28] <eagles0513875> lordievader: http://pastebin.com/4J4sj3HE
[08:29] <ikonia> the problem is not mount points
[08:30] <ikonia> the problem is udev does not see them as mass storage devices so does not create the device files
[08:30] <ikonia> eagles0513875: think about what you are saying - this is nothing to do with mount points
[08:30] <eagles0513875> ikonia: i can confirm this happens even with my usb hard disk which i know works and partition table is good
[08:30] <ikonia> eagles0513875: what has happened to you udev rules ?
[08:31] <ikonia> is there anything you are aware of that has/could have changed them
[08:31] <eagles0513875> nothing that i am aware of 
[08:31] <ikonia> do you have any PPA's or third party repos ?
[08:31] <eagles0513875> all i changed in my system was that i added a hot swap enclosure to my tower
[08:33] <ikonia> do you have any PPA's or third party repos ?
[08:34] <eagles0513875> ikonia: there are 2 repos called independent ones im not sure if those come are related  to the issue or not but all other 3rd party repos are disabled when i updated from a previous release
[08:34] <ikonia> eagles0513875: what are independent repos ?
[08:34] <ikonia> are they 3rd party repos ?
[08:36] <eagles0513875> yes 3rd party repos
[08:37] <ikonia> ok, so when I ask "do you have any 3rd party repos" the answer you give is "yes"
[08:37] <ikonia> eagles0513875: what are the 3rd party repos you have enabled please. 
[08:38] <eagles0513875> let me disable them
[08:38] <ikonia> no
[08:38] <ikonia> I did'nt ask you to disable them
[08:38] <ikonia> I asked you what repos you had
[08:39] <ikonia> what good is disabling them after / during an investigation
[08:39] <ikonia> infact - I'm out
[08:39] <ikonia> you rush ahead always and make changes while people are trying to help you, 
[08:39] <ikonia> very frustrating
[08:39] <ikonia> and your inability to answer questions honeslty/clearly is unacceptable
[08:41] <eagles0513875> :( 
[08:45] <MonkeyDust> trying KDE... where do i set the display brightness? system settings, and then?....
[08:46] <lordievader> MonkeyDust: On a laptop you can use the Fn + <screen-brightness-keys>. Or you can go to System Settings -> Power. Its somewhere in there.
[08:46] <Torch_> hardware -> power management for my current setup
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> found it, tnx
[09:49] <anonymous_> hello, i want to use the steam windows client on linux  playing games with optirun / primusrun  .... how can i make games use optirun under steam windows client on linux ?
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> anonymous_  better ask in #ubuntu-steam
[09:50] <ikonia> no
[09:50] <ikonia> the windows steam client is nothing to do with #ubuntu-steam
[09:50] <ikonia> this is a wine issue
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> all right!
[09:50] <smartboyhw> anonymous_, BTW, why can't you use Steam natively on Linux?
[09:50] <anonymous_> thank u very much , both of you :)
[09:51] <ikonia> anonymous_: be aware that running steam client/windows games under wine is not something you should (in my view) consider as a solution
[09:51] <ikonia> anonymous_: wine is a moving target for compatability 
[09:51] <anonymous_> because steam under linux just offers about 2 games worth playing :)
[09:51] <ikonia> anonymous_: windows games = use windows 
[09:54] <anonymous_> every second i dont have to use windows im a happy guy :) 
[09:54] <ikonia> well you need to be realistic about it
[09:57] <anonymous_> i am its more playing around getting it work then playing games :) im not a "hardcore gamer" anyway , but  i thank u very much for your advice ikonia :)
[11:14] <Guest85246> ty
[11:15] <Guest85246> Could anybody help with my outgoing email on Kde.  It is not working
[11:18] <Guest85246> I will come back later to see if anybody is here.
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> I saved a .jpg to desktop, it shows in Dolphin, but not on the desktop itself -- hints & tips how to do it?
[12:54] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:20] <davidbaumann> Hello
[14:20] <lordievader> Hey davidbaumann 
[14:20] <davidbaumann> Seems like default repo is broken?
[14:20] <davidbaumann> Hi lordievader
[14:20] <davidbaumann> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6079301/
[14:21] <lordievader> davidbaumann: That is not a repo broken, that is a broken package problem.
[14:22] <lordievader> davidbaumann: Have you tried what it suggests? (sudo apt-get -f install)
[14:22] <davidbaumann> How to find out which package has the problem? Last thing I installed was some kde debug symbols (KDE crashed... please install debug symbold...)
[14:22] <davidbaumann> Is there a chance it will break everything?
[14:22] <lordievader> davidbaumann: It is probably the kdelibs5-dbg
[14:23] <davidbaumann> ok I guess I will uninstall this package
[14:23] <davidbaumann> apt-get install doesn't allow me to uninstall (same error like above)
[14:24] <davidbaumann> should I remove with dpkg??
[14:25] <davidbaumann> wait, doing an "apt-get install -f" now
[14:26] <lordievader> davidbaumann: No simply try "sudo apt-get purge kdelibs5-dbg"
[14:26] <slatenails> apt-get uses dpkg so it wouldn't help :P
[14:26] <slatenails> or rather, they use the same system but yeah
[14:26] <davidbaumann> ok
[14:26] <davidbaumann> running apt-get install downloads 86MB through slow airport wifi now... have to wait :)
[14:27] <lordievader> Well if it pulls in the necessary dependencies then that is fine too ;)
[14:30] <davidbaumann> I hope so :)
[14:31] <davidbaumann> According to the report wizard, kde dbg symbols have been installed correctly...
[14:31] <davidbaumann> apt-get purge kdelibs5-dbg shows the same msg like above... 
[14:44] <davidbaumann> Thanks for your help. Need to go to my gateway now...
[14:53] <BluesKaj> hey all
[15:21] <challach> does soeone also have this problem with the double click on prógrams in the taskbar since the 4.11.1 update?
[15:21] <challach> *someone
[15:23] <petete> you just need to update again
[15:27] <petete> is there a kde connect ppa?
[15:27] <petete> for this: http://albertvaka.wordpress.com/2013/09/08/releasing-kde-connect-technology-preview/
[15:27] <challach> hello petete
[15:27] <petete> hi challach
[15:28] <challach> u mean sudo apt-get update or with muon updater? tried these but there was no further update
[15:28] <tsimpson> petete: maybe you can convince smartboyhw to do that
[15:28] <petete> i got the update yesterday
[15:29] <petete> i don't use muon though
[15:29] <smartboyhw> petete, god's sake, you're quick, I'm already packaging it here-.--
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Be patient though:P
[15:29] <petete> just try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or the muon equivalent
[15:30] <challach> i did both but no change yet :(
[15:30] <petete> great, thanks smartboyhw
[15:33] <petete> challach: you can disable the show tooltips option while you wait for the fix
[15:41] <smartboyhw> tsimpson, next time, please DO NOT think of me as some sort of packaging contact point-.-
[15:41] <tsimpson> smartboyhw: hey, you're the one that jumped on the package ;)
[15:41] <challach> thank u very much petete. this helps
[15:42] <smartboyhw> tsimpson, I know, but...
[18:01] <anonymous_> hey guys i want to record spotify music with audacity  but it does not work ... can someone help me pls ?
[19:28] <eegore> is ther a theme importer for Kubuntu?
[20:09] <roberth1990> hello I am new to kubuntu as a distribution
[20:09] <roberth1990> is there any ppa for latest nvidia blob driver without using the xorg-edgers ppa?
[20:10] <roberth1990> I am using raring
[20:11] <BluesKaj> welcome to Kubuntu roberth1990 . the nidia propriestry drivers are availble in the kmenu>applications >settings>additional drivers 
[20:11] <BluesKaj> nvidia rather
[20:11] <BluesKaj> anyway my spelling sucks today
[20:12] <roberth1990> I have no such app
[20:13] <BluesKaj> sorry roberth1990 in my enthusiasm I gave te wrong directions , system instead of settings 
[20:13] <BluesKaj> menu>applications >system>additional drivers , roberth1990
[20:14] <roberth1990> but now my initial problem comes in
[20:14] <roberth1990> they are outdated
[20:14] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: they are outdated
[20:14] <BluesKaj> roberth1990, which ones are available to you ?
[20:15] <roberth1990> 304, 310, 313
[20:16] <roberth1990> Ill activate 313 as temporary sollution, brb...
[20:16] <BluesKaj> ro have you updated / upgraded since installing Kubuntu
[20:16] <BluesKaj> roberth1990,^
[20:16] <roberth1990> only updated
[20:18] <roberth1990> brb reboot
[20:23] <roberth1990> wellll
[20:24] <roberth1990> I rebooted, it wouldnt boot, boot the previous kernel version I was using and it booted at least
[20:24] <roberth1990> but I doesnt use the nvidia driver now
[20:24] <BluesKaj> mapyth,  it's best to upgrade then dist-upgrade in the terminal to bring in any new kernels  and modules/drivers for your hardware 
[20:24] <BluesKaj> roberth1990, ^
[20:26] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: what?
[20:28] <roberth1990> I tried searching for "nvidia" simply with apt
[20:28] <roberth1990> but tons of stuff
[20:28] <roberth1990> argh debian world is just so unneccesary complicated
[20:30] <roberth1990> what nvidia package is for the latest kernel?????????????????????????
[20:30] <roberth1990> I dont grasp this
[20:35] <roberth1990> okay now when I rebooted again with the latest kernel it somehow works
[20:36] <roberth1990> *ubuntu distros are like windows for me...
[20:38] <BluesKaj> roberth1990, in order to get the lataest kernel in the terminal do , sudo apt-get update:sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:39] <roberth1990> well I have the latest
[20:39] <roberth1990> according to the result of that command
[20:39] <roberth1990> and I use backports to get kde 4.11
[20:41] <BluesKaj> roberth1990, did you get the latest nvidia driver from the repos?
[20:44] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: not sure :S
[20:46] <roberth1990> nvidia 310 is activated according to that utility
[20:46] <BluesKaj> open muon and type nvidia in the search , you'll see nvidia updates there , choose the highest number , roberth1990
[20:47] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: k.. 2 sec...
[20:49] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: version 310 is installed and in use
[20:49] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: but I cant get rid of the tearing which is was able to on arch linux with kde 4.11 and latest nvidia driver
[20:51] <BluesKaj> roberth1990, does the nvidia 319 driver show up in Muon ?
[20:51] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: 313 is there... uhm I think
[20:52] <roberth1990> sorry
[20:53] <roberth1990> but debian based seems to be designed specifically to be as hard to understand as possible so I cant give you any good answer
[20:53] <BluesKaj> you have to install the 313 updates in Muon , then in the terminal , sudo apt-get install nvidia-319
[20:54] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: http://paste.kde.org/pe7a7e695/
[20:54] <BluesKaj> err sorry sudo apt-get install nvidia-313, roberth1990
[20:54] <BluesKaj> been a long day :P
[20:55] <roberth1990> http://paste.kde.org/p9d5a3087/
[20:55] <roberth1990> seems more like kubuntu is having a long day
[20:56] <BluesKaj> did you install the "nvidia 313 updates packge" in Muon ?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> brb , I have to reboot 
[20:57] <roberth1990> yep its there but not installed, shall I?
[20:57] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:58] <BluesKaj> brb
[21:04] <roberth1990> Well I installed nvidia 313
[21:04] <roberth1990> using kde 4.11 backports
[21:04] <roberth1990> tearing is still there
[21:04] <goodtime> nice
[21:05] <roberth1990> and I suspect it is the old nvidia drivers who cause this since it doesnt happen on arch linux
[21:06] <BluesKaj> which nvidia card , roberth1990 ?
[21:06] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: GTX 650
[21:08] <BluesKaj> ,hmm, you should be able to run the 319 driver with that card , did actaully do a dist-upgrade to get the latest kernel/
[21:09] <BluesKaj> make sure you have the all the repos enabled in Muon , like third party and partners 
[21:10] <roberth1990> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8Z7FtVdF
[21:10] <roberth1990> isnt that the latest for 13.04?
[21:13] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: are you refering to "pre released updates"?
[21:13] <BluesKaj> no
[21:13] <roberth1990> well everything is enabled exept that repo
[21:14] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: no nvidia 319 in sight anywhere?
[21:14] <roberth1990> id rather liker 325
[21:14] <roberth1990> *like
[21:17] <roberth1990> anyone using the xorg edgers ppa?
[21:18] <BluesKaj> some ppl do , you can try it if you wish , but be warned we can't help if it mucks up your setup 
[21:18] <BluesKaj> !ppa | roberth1990
[21:20] <roberth1990> .... /facepalm
[21:20] <roberth1990> ofc I know what a ppa is
[21:20] <roberth1990> I am asking about the quality of a ppa
[21:21] <roberth1990> if there anybody here to share their experience etc
[21:21] <BluesKaj> I know you know what appa is , it's just warning , you're on your own , that's all
[21:22] <BluesKaj> some have had succes witht the 325 , but I think it's on the 13.10 beta1
[21:22] <BluesKaj> roberth1990,
[21:23] <BluesKaj> I'm on 13.10 atm , but I'm running the 319 driver and it works fine so far
[21:23] <roberth1990> show me your uname -a output
[21:23] <roberth1990> BluesKaj: 
[21:24] <BluesKaj> 3.11.0-5-generic #11-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 6 19:01:31 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 
[21:25] <roberth1990> well you arent exactly running pure 13.10
[21:25] <BluesKaj> just installed the beta1 , 2hrs ago
[21:26] <BluesKaj> totally clean install as well , roberth1990 
[21:28] <BluesKaj> and what's the magda kernel you have is that some specialty kernel , roberth1990 ?
[21:28] <roberth1990> no its my hostname for my comp
[21:30] <BluesKaj> odd that it's included there 
[21:30] <roberth1990> -a mentions a lot you see....
[21:31] <BluesKaj> anyway , it's dinner time here , and I'm going log off 
[21:34] <roberth1990> well I took in use xorg edgers, and set opengl version 2.0 and it solved it
[21:35] <roberth1990> so must be *ubuntu specific bugs that causes tearing with opengl 3.1
[22:08] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit