[03:51] <c_smith> I take it this is the place I would go if I had something to discuss Ubuntu Gnome 13.10?
[03:51] <c_smith> just so I know for future reference
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | IamTrying
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> try that to start with
[04:08] <vanishing> IamTrying: what graphics card do you have?
[04:08] <IamTrying> wilee-nilee, if i use nomodeset then i can see its working. But then i do not HDMI-1 and VGA-1 working
[04:08] <vanishing> nvidia I recon
[04:09] <IamTrying> vanishing, GeForce GT 620 Nvidia
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, You need to run a update and check the additional drivers
[04:09] <IamTrying> vanishing, LiveCD shows Perfectly HDMI-1 and VGA-1 but after installation i did 3 times reboot since then i have black screen.
[04:09] <vanishing> IamTrying: yep..do nomodeset, install nvidia driver, generate xorg.conf, reboot without nomodeset :D
[04:09] <IamTrying> wilee-nilee, apt-get update and upgrade i also did
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, You know where additional drivers are?
[04:10] <vanishing> IamTrying: thats not enough, you have to install nvidia-current
[04:10] <vanishing> or something similar
[04:10] <IamTrying> vanishing, i did that too but no luck ( http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/295.33/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.33.run&lang=us&type=GeForce )
[04:10] <vanishing> no i mean the one in repo
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, run software-properties-gtk   and check additional drivers
[04:10] <IamTrying> vanishing, i also installed nvidia-current but then it auto matically goes as like nomodeset
[04:10] <vanishing> where you can install with apt-get or synaptic
[04:10] <IamTrying> OK wilee-nilee let me do that one software-pro..gtk
[04:11] <vanishing> IamTrying: yea..thats why you have to generate xorg.conf
[04:11] <vanishing> like I said before :D
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, I am not real up on graphic drivers so follow vanishing
[04:11] <IamTrying> OK - let me try strange and weired LiveCD works perfect but after installing in disk display is doing strange
[04:11] <IamTrying> OK
[04:12] <vanishing> if I recall correctly
[04:12] <vanishing> the command you want to run is
[04:12] <vanishing> nvidia-xconfig
[04:12] <vanishing> with sudo
[04:13] <IamTrying> vanishing, i will do it now too. there is another strange thing happening 1) nomodeset and booted 2) init 0 3) via SSH i see its rebooting but my Monitors keep showing frozen black screen and the PC stays on
[04:14] <vanishing> IamTrying: that might be related or not..
[04:14] <vanishing> anyways, try to get graphics working first
[04:19] <IamTrying> vanishing, 0) now i am in  nomodeset 1) then installed http://i.imgur.com/5uFlbUV.png 2) tried http://i.imgur.com/yAIskjM.png  (failed) 3) should i reboot and retry?
[04:20] <vanishing> IamTrying: erm...image no longer available..
[04:20] <vanishing> the first one
[04:20] <IamTrying> vanishing, http://i.imgur.com/5uFIbUV.png
[04:20] <vanishing> IamTrying: the second one is just saying, there was no xorg.conf
[04:20] <IamTrying> sorry L was "i"
[04:20] <vanishing> and xorg-xconfig just created one for you :D
[04:20] <vanishing> i mean nvidia-xconfig
[04:21] <vanishing> so it should be safe to restart
[04:21] <IamTrying> vanishing, so i remove now nomodeset and reboot?
[04:21] <vanishing> yep
[04:23] <IamTrying> vanishing, After doing above. Rebooted and after Bios screen i get this > http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg
[04:24] <vanishing> IamTrying: something's wrong with the xorg.conf file...
[04:24] <vanishing> but dont panic :D
[04:25] <vanishing> can you ctrl alt f1 and cat out /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:25] <vanishing> use pastebin
[04:26] <IamTrying> vanishing, Please http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077671/
[04:29] <vanishing> gimme 1 min
[04:29] <vanishing> it seems ok
[04:30] <vanishing> IamTrying: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current
[04:33] <IamTrying> vanishing, 1) i did apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current it was ok 2) i did init 6 3) i get same thing http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg
[04:34] <vanishing> IamTrying: try to add "blacklist nouveau" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[04:35] <vanishing> and can you also pastebin the output of lsmod
[04:36] <IamTrying> vanishing, 1) applied blacklist 2) and rebooted http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077688/
[04:37] <IamTrying> vanishing, after reboot it comes again : http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg
[04:38] <vanishing> IamTrying: nvidia module is not loaded
[04:39] <vanishing> IamTrying: if you do sudo modprobe nvidia_current
[04:39] <vanishing> followed by sudo service lightdm restart
[04:39] <vanishing> do you get low graphics notice?
[04:40] <IamTrying> vanishing, # modprobe nvidia_current
[04:40] <IamTrying> FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found.
[04:40] <vanishing> IamTrying: what if you do sudo modprobe nvidia instead?
[04:41] <IamTrying> libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:791 kmod_module_insert_module: could not find module by name='nvidia_304'
[04:41] <IamTrying> ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_304': Function not implemented
[04:41] <vanishing> the problem is probably the kernel module wasnt there
[04:41] <IamTrying> vanishing, service lightdm restart apply i get this same thing back: http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg
[04:42] <vanishing> which version of nvidia do you have installed?
[04:43] <IamTrying> vanishing, nvidia-current amd64 304.88-0ubuntu1
[04:43] <vanishing> thats it?
[04:44] <IamTrying> vanishing, Version: 304.88-0ubuntu1 ?
[04:45] <IamTrying> vanishing, but i did 1st ) http://i.imgur.com/5uFIbUV.png
[04:45] <IamTrying> then nvidia-current
[04:45] <IamTrying> so it was like 1st installed 310 and then installed 304 ( apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current )
[04:46] <vanishing> IamTrying: follow this
[04:46] <vanishing> IamTrying: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077708/
[04:50] <IamTrying> WORKS - Oh my god GURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRU thanks a billiooooooooooooooooon GURUUUUU. WOW finally it works back thank you so much, you are Genius.
[04:51] <vanishing> :D
[04:51] <vanishing> np
[04:57] <QwertyKb> Hi, after installing 13.10 beta, it takes me to a grup prompt.
[04:57] <QwertyKb> 13.04 works fine
[04:58] <QwertyKb> I have noticed though that 13.10 detects my drive as /dev/sdb while 13.04 as /dev/sda ... and vice versa
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> QwertyKb, from a usb?
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> QwertyKb, you have both 13.04 and 13.10 installed the description is a bit empty of actual details.
[05:16] <QwertyKb_> wilee-nilee: No, I had 13.04 which worked, and tried replacing it with 13.10 beta
[05:17] <QwertyKb_> When I boot 13.04 it detects the same drive as /dev/sda1 while 13.10 sees it as /dev/sdb1
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> QwertyKb_, 13.10 is installed and on another HD, or on a usb
[05:17] <QwertyKb_> (There are 2 disks in the machine, both versions have a different idea about which is sda and which is sdb)
[05:18] <QwertyKb_> wilee-nilee: On the same hdd where 13.04 had been, I erased 13.04  and replaced it with 13.10 on the same partition!
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> QwertyKb_, which disk is first in the bios to be read?
[05:19] <QwertyKb_> wilee-nilee: What 13.04 saw as sda and what 13.10 sees as sdb
[05:19] <vanishing> sudo grub-install /dev/sdb
[05:19] <QwertyKb_> Well its UEFI so I'm not sure whether there is a real order.
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> QwertyKb_, can you run sudo fdsik -l and pastebin it
[05:19] <QwertyKb_> I'm installing on an mSata SSD
[05:20] <QwertyKb_> On Windows currently, give me a few mins
[05:27] <QwertyKb> wilee-nilee: No output at all on 13.10
[05:28] <QwertyKb> http://paste.kde.org/p4fe1c3b7/
[05:30] <vanishing> just sudo fdisk -l
[05:30] <vanishing> no more arguments
[05:32] <QwertyKb> wilee-nilee: vanishing  http://paste.kde.org/pc76909e7/
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> sorry I misspelled fdisk, I'm not really up on uefi isuues is all.
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> issues
[05:35] <QwertyKb> Found this in /etc/default/grub on target install ... is this normal?
[05:35] <QwertyKb> GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
[05:35] <QwertyKb> "/dev/null"??
[05:36] <vanishing> thats normal
[05:38] <QwertyKb> Any idea why it would behave as such
[05:39] <vanishing> the problem is grub does not boot the install right?
[05:39] <QwertyKb> yes
[05:39] <QwertyKb> exactly what is described here and with Kubuntu itself https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1222017
[05:41] <vanishing> can you follow this?
[05:41] <vanishing> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[05:41] <vanishing> I'm not good with it either..
[06:28] <rcythr> So I'm out of ideas. I'm using the g++-4.8 package from Saucy. Anyone have any suggestions as to what might be causing g++ to refuse to enable threading? I'm pretty sure it's just a weird linking issue that's making g++ use the wrong lib
[06:36] <bazhang> use the saucy version for raring?
[06:36] <rcythr> yes
[06:37] <bazhang> whyever would you consider doing that
[06:37] <rcythr> I just want g++ 4.8. I figured installing the saucy package would be easier/faster than building from source
[06:37] <bazhang> so no specific reason?
[06:38] <rcythr> correct
[06:38] <bazhang> !find g++
[06:39] <bazhang> mixing version packages is really a bad idea
[06:40] <rcythr> I'll just build it from source then. It'll probably take 10 hours, but if using the packages is that bad an idea...
[06:40] <bazhang> if it were some peripheral PPA, then it might fly, but something major like that will introduce way more issues than it purportedly solves, and of course is in no way supported
[06:41] <bazhang> for example, using the raring version of handbrake on saucy
[06:41] <bazhang> someone wanted the newest version of glibc just yesterday
[06:42] <bazhang> saucy does come out in a few weeks, I hope you realize
[06:42] <rcythr> Yes, I realize
[06:43] <bazhang> ok, well good luck, whatever you decide
[06:43] <rcythr> thank you :)
[06:43] <bazhang> :)
[06:43] <rcythr> I'll just install 4.8 for source
[06:43] <rcythr> I'd rather have it in 10 hours than a few weeks :P
[06:49] <tsimpson> rcythr: it's probably easier to just set up a small chroot (and use something like schroot) than backporting the toolchain
[06:50] <tsimpson> quicker too
[06:50] <rcythr> yea, I've come to senses. I'll just use boost/thread for a few weeks until sausy hehe :P
[06:51] <rcythr> because a gcc build on this machine will probably finish about the same time as sausy gets released >.>
[06:52] <tsimpson> what's the error you get? because boost's thread library would rely on native threading support anyway
[06:52] <rcythr> It's a runtime error that basically says to enable threads
[06:52] <tsimpson> and did you?
[06:52] <rcythr> yes
[06:52] <tsimpson> both when compiling and linking?
[06:52] <rcythr> the verbose output even shows that the threaidng model is posix
[06:53] <rcythr> My suspicion is that somehow the linker is using the wrong library
[06:53] <tsimpson> I'm talking about the -pthread option
[06:53] <rcythr> yes
[06:53] <rcythr> I'm doing both in one command
[06:53] <rcythr> with -pthread there
[06:54] <tsimpson> it's odd, maybe you missed something when getting the packages from saucy
[06:54] <rcythr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077990/
[06:54] <rcythr> That's my suspicion
[14:53] <BluesKaj> hey all
[14:54] <penguin42> hey
[19:21] <Munchor> Hi there, no gnome-shell package on 13.10? Has it been removed from repos?
[19:22] <ali1234> i doubt it
[19:22] <ali1234> i see a gnome-shell package
[19:22] <Munchor> oh I see what I did now
[19:22] <Munchor> thank you ali1234