| c_smith | I take it this is the place I would go if I had something to discuss Ubuntu Gnome 13.10? | 03:51 |
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| c_smith | just so I know for future reference | 03:51 |
| wilee-nilee | !nomodeset | IamTrying | 04:08 |
| ubottu | IamTrying: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 04:08 |
| wilee-nilee | try that to start with | 04:08 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: what graphics card do you have? | 04:08 |
| IamTrying | wilee-nilee, if i use nomodeset then i can see its working. But then i do not HDMI-1 and VGA-1 working | 04:08 |
| vanishing | nvidia I recon | 04:08 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, GeForce GT 620 Nvidia | 04:09 |
| wilee-nilee | IamTrying, You need to run a update and check the additional drivers | 04:09 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, LiveCD shows Perfectly HDMI-1 and VGA-1 but after installation i did 3 times reboot since then i have black screen. | 04:09 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: yep..do nomodeset, install nvidia driver, generate xorg.conf, reboot without nomodeset :D | 04:09 |
| IamTrying | wilee-nilee, apt-get update and upgrade i also did | 04:09 |
| wilee-nilee | IamTrying, You know where additional drivers are? | 04:10 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: thats not enough, you have to install nvidia-current | 04:10 |
| vanishing | or something similar | 04:10 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, i did that too but no luck ( http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/295.33/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.33.run&lang=us&type=GeForce ) | 04:10 |
| vanishing | no i mean the one in repo | 04:10 |
| wilee-nilee | IamTrying, run software-properties-gtk and check additional drivers | 04:10 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, i also installed nvidia-current but then it auto matically goes as like nomodeset | 04:10 |
| vanishing | where you can install with apt-get or synaptic | 04:10 |
| IamTrying | OK wilee-nilee let me do that one software-pro..gtk | 04:10 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: yea..thats why you have to generate xorg.conf | 04:11 |
| vanishing | like I said before :D | 04:11 |
| wilee-nilee | IamTrying, I am not real up on graphic drivers so follow vanishing | 04:11 |
| IamTrying | OK - let me try strange and weired LiveCD works perfect but after installing in disk display is doing strange | 04:11 |
| IamTrying | OK | 04:11 |
| vanishing | if I recall correctly | 04:12 |
| vanishing | the command you want to run is | 04:12 |
| vanishing | nvidia-xconfig | 04:12 |
| vanishing | with sudo | 04:12 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, i will do it now too. there is another strange thing happening 1) nomodeset and booted 2) init 0 3) via SSH i see its rebooting but my Monitors keep showing frozen black screen and the PC stays on | 04:13 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: that might be related or not.. | 04:14 |
| vanishing | anyways, try to get graphics working first | 04:14 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, 0) now i am in nomodeset 1) then installed http://i.imgur.com/5uFlbUV.png 2) tried http://i.imgur.com/yAIskjM.png (failed) 3) should i reboot and retry? | 04:19 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: erm...image no longer available.. | 04:20 |
| vanishing | the first one | 04:20 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, http://i.imgur.com/5uFIbUV.png | 04:20 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: the second one is just saying, there was no xorg.conf | 04:20 |
| IamTrying | sorry L was "i" | 04:20 |
| vanishing | and xorg-xconfig just created one for you :D | 04:20 |
| vanishing | i mean nvidia-xconfig | 04:20 |
| vanishing | so it should be safe to restart | 04:21 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, so i remove now nomodeset and reboot? | 04:21 |
| vanishing | yep | 04:21 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, After doing above. Rebooted and after Bios screen i get this > http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg | 04:23 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: something's wrong with the xorg.conf file... | 04:24 |
| vanishing | but dont panic :D | 04:24 |
| vanishing | can you ctrl alt f1 and cat out /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 04:25 |
| vanishing | use pastebin | 04:25 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, Please http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077671/ | 04:26 |
| vanishing | gimme 1 min | 04:29 |
| vanishing | it seems ok | 04:29 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current | 04:30 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, 1) i did apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current it was ok 2) i did init 6 3) i get same thing http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg | 04:33 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: try to add "blacklist nouveau" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | 04:34 |
| vanishing | and can you also pastebin the output of lsmod | 04:35 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, 1) applied blacklist 2) and rebooted http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077688/ | 04:36 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, after reboot it comes again : http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg | 04:37 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: nvidia module is not loaded | 04:38 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: if you do sudo modprobe nvidia_current | 04:39 |
| vanishing | followed by sudo service lightdm restart | 04:39 |
| vanishing | do you get low graphics notice? | 04:39 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, # modprobe nvidia_current | 04:40 |
| IamTrying | FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found. | 04:40 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: what if you do sudo modprobe nvidia instead? | 04:40 |
| IamTrying | libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:791 kmod_module_insert_module: could not find module by name='nvidia_304' | 04:41 |
| IamTrying | ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_304': Function not implemented | 04:41 |
| vanishing | the problem is probably the kernel module wasnt there | 04:41 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, service lightdm restart apply i get this same thing back: http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg | 04:41 |
| vanishing | which version of nvidia do you have installed? | 04:42 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, nvidia-current amd64 304.88-0ubuntu1 | 04:43 |
| vanishing | thats it? | 04:43 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, Version: 304.88-0ubuntu1 ? | 04:44 |
| IamTrying | vanishing, but i did 1st ) http://i.imgur.com/5uFIbUV.png | 04:45 |
| IamTrying | then nvidia-current | 04:45 |
| IamTrying | so it was like 1st installed 310 and then installed 304 ( apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current ) | 04:45 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: follow this | 04:46 |
| vanishing | IamTrying: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077708/ | 04:46 |
| IamTrying | WORKS - Oh my god GURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRU thanks a billiooooooooooooooooon GURUUUUU. WOW finally it works back thank you so much, you are Genius. | 04:50 |
| vanishing | :D | 04:51 |
| vanishing | np | 04:51 |
| QwertyKb | Hi, after installing 13.10 beta, it takes me to a grup prompt. | 04:57 |
| QwertyKb | 13.04 works fine | 04:57 |
| QwertyKb | I have noticed though that 13.10 detects my drive as /dev/sdb while 13.04 as /dev/sda ... and vice versa | 04:58 |
| wilee-nilee | QwertyKb, from a usb? | 05:13 |
| wilee-nilee | QwertyKb, you have both 13.04 and 13.10 installed the description is a bit empty of actual details. | 05:14 |
| QwertyKb_ | wilee-nilee: No, I had 13.04 which worked, and tried replacing it with 13.10 beta | 05:16 |
| QwertyKb_ | When I boot 13.04 it detects the same drive as /dev/sda1 while 13.10 sees it as /dev/sdb1 | 05:17 |
| wilee-nilee | QwertyKb_, 13.10 is installed and on another HD, or on a usb | 05:17 |
| QwertyKb_ | (There are 2 disks in the machine, both versions have a different idea about which is sda and which is sdb) | 05:17 |
| QwertyKb_ | wilee-nilee: On the same hdd where 13.04 had been, I erased 13.04 and replaced it with 13.10 on the same partition! | 05:18 |
| wilee-nilee | QwertyKb_, which disk is first in the bios to be read? | 05:18 |
| QwertyKb_ | wilee-nilee: What 13.04 saw as sda and what 13.10 sees as sdb | 05:19 |
| vanishing | sudo grub-install /dev/sdb | 05:19 |
| QwertyKb_ | Well its UEFI so I'm not sure whether there is a real order. | 05:19 |
| wilee-nilee | QwertyKb_, can you run sudo fdsik -l and pastebin it | 05:19 |
| QwertyKb_ | I'm installing on an mSata SSD | 05:19 |
| QwertyKb_ | On Windows currently, give me a few mins | 05:20 |
| QwertyKb | wilee-nilee: No output at all on 13.10 | 05:27 |
| QwertyKb | http://paste.kde.org/p4fe1c3b7/ | 05:28 |
| vanishing | just sudo fdisk -l | 05:30 |
| vanishing | no more arguments | 05:30 |
| QwertyKb | wilee-nilee: vanishing http://paste.kde.org/pc76909e7/ | 05:32 |
| wilee-nilee | sorry I misspelled fdisk, I'm not really up on uefi isuues is all. | 05:35 |
| wilee-nilee | issues | 05:35 |
| QwertyKb | Found this in /etc/default/grub on target install ... is this normal? | 05:35 |
| QwertyKb | GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` | 05:35 |
| QwertyKb | "/dev/null"?? | 05:35 |
| vanishing | thats normal | 05:36 |
| QwertyKb | Any idea why it would behave as such | 05:38 |
| vanishing | the problem is grub does not boot the install right? | 05:39 |
| QwertyKb | yes | 05:39 |
| QwertyKb | exactly what is described here and with Kubuntu itself https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1222017 | 05:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1222017 in linux (Ubuntu) "UEFI GRUB Fails After 13.10 Beta1 Installation?" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 05:39 |
| vanishing | can you follow this? | 05:41 |
| vanishing | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 05:41 |
| vanishing | I'm not good with it either.. | 05:41 |
| rcythr | So I'm out of ideas. I'm using the g++-4.8 package from Saucy. Anyone have any suggestions as to what might be causing g++ to refuse to enable threading? I'm pretty sure it's just a weird linking issue that's making g++ use the wrong lib | 06:28 |
| bazhang | use the saucy version for raring? | 06:36 |
| rcythr | yes | 06:36 |
| bazhang | whyever would you consider doing that | 06:37 |
| rcythr | I just want g++ 4.8. I figured installing the saucy package would be easier/faster than building from source | 06:37 |
| bazhang | so no specific reason? | 06:37 |
| rcythr | correct | 06:38 |
| bazhang | !find g++ | 06:38 |
| ubottu | Found: account-plugin-aim, account-plugin-facebook, account-plugin-flickr, account-plugin-google, account-plugin-jabber, account-plugin-salut, account-plugin-twitter, account-plugin-windows-live, account-plugin-yahoo, activity-log-manager (and 15869 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=g%2B%2B&searchon=names&suite=saucy§ion=all | 06:38 |
| bazhang | mixing version packages is really a bad idea | 06:39 |
| rcythr | I'll just build it from source then. It'll probably take 10 hours, but if using the packages is that bad an idea... | 06:40 |
| bazhang | if it were some peripheral PPA, then it might fly, but something major like that will introduce way more issues than it purportedly solves, and of course is in no way supported | 06:40 |
| bazhang | for example, using the raring version of handbrake on saucy | 06:41 |
| bazhang | someone wanted the newest version of glibc just yesterday | 06:41 |
| bazhang | saucy does come out in a few weeks, I hope you realize | 06:42 |
| rcythr | Yes, I realize | 06:42 |
| bazhang | ok, well good luck, whatever you decide | 06:43 |
| rcythr | thank you :) | 06:43 |
| bazhang | :) | 06:43 |
| rcythr | I'll just install 4.8 for source | 06:43 |
| rcythr | I'd rather have it in 10 hours than a few weeks :P | 06:43 |
| tsimpson | rcythr: it's probably easier to just set up a small chroot (and use something like schroot) than backporting the toolchain | 06:49 |
| tsimpson | quicker too | 06:50 |
| rcythr | yea, I've come to senses. I'll just use boost/thread for a few weeks until sausy hehe :P | 06:50 |
| rcythr | because a gcc build on this machine will probably finish about the same time as sausy gets released >.> | 06:51 |
| tsimpson | what's the error you get? because boost's thread library would rely on native threading support anyway | 06:52 |
| rcythr | It's a runtime error that basically says to enable threads | 06:52 |
| tsimpson | and did you? | 06:52 |
| rcythr | yes | 06:52 |
| tsimpson | both when compiling and linking? | 06:52 |
| rcythr | the verbose output even shows that the threaidng model is posix | 06:52 |
| rcythr | My suspicion is that somehow the linker is using the wrong library | 06:53 |
| tsimpson | I'm talking about the -pthread option | 06:53 |
| rcythr | yes | 06:53 |
| rcythr | I'm doing both in one command | 06:53 |
| rcythr | with -pthread there | 06:53 |
| tsimpson | it's odd, maybe you missed something when getting the packages from saucy | 06:54 |
| rcythr | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077990/ | 06:54 |
| rcythr | That's my suspicion | 06:54 |
| BluesKaj | hey all | 14:53 |
| penguin42 | hey | 14:54 |
| === Fyodorovna is now known as wiler-nilee | ||
| === wiler-nilee is now known as wilee-nilee | ||
| Munchor | Hi there, no gnome-shell package on 13.10? Has it been removed from repos? | 19:21 |
| ali1234 | i doubt it | 19:22 |
| ali1234 | i see a gnome-shell package | 19:22 |
| Munchor | oh I see what I did now | 19:22 |
| Munchor | thank you ali1234 | 19:22 |
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