[03:51] I take it this is the place I would go if I had something to discuss Ubuntu Gnome 13.10? [03:51] just so I know for future reference [04:08] !nomodeset | IamTrying [04:08] IamTrying: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [04:08] try that to start with [04:08] IamTrying: what graphics card do you have? [04:08] wilee-nilee, if i use nomodeset then i can see its working. But then i do not HDMI-1 and VGA-1 working [04:08] nvidia I recon [04:09] vanishing, GeForce GT 620 Nvidia [04:09] IamTrying, You need to run a update and check the additional drivers [04:09] vanishing, LiveCD shows Perfectly HDMI-1 and VGA-1 but after installation i did 3 times reboot since then i have black screen. [04:09] IamTrying: yep..do nomodeset, install nvidia driver, generate xorg.conf, reboot without nomodeset :D [04:09] wilee-nilee, apt-get update and upgrade i also did [04:10] IamTrying, You know where additional drivers are? [04:10] IamTrying: thats not enough, you have to install nvidia-current [04:10] or something similar [04:10] vanishing, i did that too but no luck ( http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/295.33/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.33.run&lang=us&type=GeForce ) [04:10] no i mean the one in repo [04:10] IamTrying, run software-properties-gtk and check additional drivers [04:10] vanishing, i also installed nvidia-current but then it auto matically goes as like nomodeset [04:10] where you can install with apt-get or synaptic [04:10] OK wilee-nilee let me do that one software-pro..gtk [04:11] IamTrying: yea..thats why you have to generate xorg.conf [04:11] like I said before :D [04:11] IamTrying, I am not real up on graphic drivers so follow vanishing [04:11] OK - let me try strange and weired LiveCD works perfect but after installing in disk display is doing strange [04:11] OK [04:12] if I recall correctly [04:12] the command you want to run is [04:12] nvidia-xconfig [04:12] with sudo [04:13] vanishing, i will do it now too. there is another strange thing happening 1) nomodeset and booted 2) init 0 3) via SSH i see its rebooting but my Monitors keep showing frozen black screen and the PC stays on [04:14] IamTrying: that might be related or not.. [04:14] anyways, try to get graphics working first [04:19] vanishing, 0) now i am in nomodeset 1) then installed http://i.imgur.com/5uFlbUV.png 2) tried http://i.imgur.com/yAIskjM.png (failed) 3) should i reboot and retry? [04:20] IamTrying: erm...image no longer available.. [04:20] the first one [04:20] vanishing, http://i.imgur.com/5uFIbUV.png [04:20] IamTrying: the second one is just saying, there was no xorg.conf [04:20] sorry L was "i" [04:20] and xorg-xconfig just created one for you :D [04:20] i mean nvidia-xconfig [04:21] so it should be safe to restart [04:21] vanishing, so i remove now nomodeset and reboot? [04:21] yep [04:23] vanishing, After doing above. Rebooted and after Bios screen i get this > http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg [04:24] IamTrying: something's wrong with the xorg.conf file... [04:24] but dont panic :D [04:25] can you ctrl alt f1 and cat out /etc/X11/xorg.conf [04:25] use pastebin [04:26] vanishing, Please http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077671/ [04:29] gimme 1 min [04:29] it seems ok [04:30] IamTrying: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current [04:33] vanishing, 1) i did apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current it was ok 2) i did init 6 3) i get same thing http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg [04:34] IamTrying: try to add "blacklist nouveau" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [04:35] and can you also pastebin the output of lsmod [04:36] vanishing, 1) applied blacklist 2) and rebooted http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077688/ [04:37] vanishing, after reboot it comes again : http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg [04:38] IamTrying: nvidia module is not loaded [04:39] IamTrying: if you do sudo modprobe nvidia_current [04:39] followed by sudo service lightdm restart [04:39] do you get low graphics notice? [04:40] vanishing, # modprobe nvidia_current [04:40] FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found. [04:40] IamTrying: what if you do sudo modprobe nvidia instead? [04:41] libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:791 kmod_module_insert_module: could not find module by name='nvidia_304' [04:41] ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_304': Function not implemented [04:41] the problem is probably the kernel module wasnt there [04:41] vanishing, service lightdm restart apply i get this same thing back: http://i.imgur.com/s86J2SF.jpg [04:42] which version of nvidia do you have installed? [04:43] vanishing, nvidia-current amd64 304.88-0ubuntu1 [04:43] thats it? [04:44] vanishing, Version: 304.88-0ubuntu1 ? [04:45] vanishing, but i did 1st ) http://i.imgur.com/5uFIbUV.png [04:45] then nvidia-current [04:45] so it was like 1st installed 310 and then installed 304 ( apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current ) [04:46] IamTrying: follow this [04:46] IamTrying: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077708/ [04:50] WORKS - Oh my god GURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRU thanks a billiooooooooooooooooon GURUUUUU. WOW finally it works back thank you so much, you are Genius. [04:51] :D [04:51] np [04:57] Hi, after installing 13.10 beta, it takes me to a grup prompt. [04:57] 13.04 works fine [04:58] I have noticed though that 13.10 detects my drive as /dev/sdb while 13.04 as /dev/sda ... and vice versa [05:13] QwertyKb, from a usb? [05:14] QwertyKb, you have both 13.04 and 13.10 installed the description is a bit empty of actual details. [05:16] wilee-nilee: No, I had 13.04 which worked, and tried replacing it with 13.10 beta [05:17] When I boot 13.04 it detects the same drive as /dev/sda1 while 13.10 sees it as /dev/sdb1 [05:17] QwertyKb_, 13.10 is installed and on another HD, or on a usb [05:17] (There are 2 disks in the machine, both versions have a different idea about which is sda and which is sdb) [05:18] wilee-nilee: On the same hdd where 13.04 had been, I erased 13.04 and replaced it with 13.10 on the same partition! [05:18] QwertyKb_, which disk is first in the bios to be read? [05:19] wilee-nilee: What 13.04 saw as sda and what 13.10 sees as sdb [05:19] sudo grub-install /dev/sdb [05:19] Well its UEFI so I'm not sure whether there is a real order. [05:19] QwertyKb_, can you run sudo fdsik -l and pastebin it [05:19] I'm installing on an mSata SSD [05:20] On Windows currently, give me a few mins [05:27] wilee-nilee: No output at all on 13.10 [05:28] http://paste.kde.org/p4fe1c3b7/ [05:30] just sudo fdisk -l [05:30] no more arguments [05:32] wilee-nilee: vanishing http://paste.kde.org/pc76909e7/ [05:35] sorry I misspelled fdisk, I'm not really up on uefi isuues is all. [05:35] issues [05:35] Found this in /etc/default/grub on target install ... is this normal? [05:35] GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian` [05:35] "/dev/null"?? [05:36] thats normal [05:38] Any idea why it would behave as such [05:39] the problem is grub does not boot the install right? [05:39] yes [05:39] exactly what is described here and with Kubuntu itself https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1222017 [05:39] Launchpad bug 1222017 in linux (Ubuntu) "UEFI GRUB Fails After 13.10 Beta1 Installation?" [Undecided,Confirmed] [05:41] can you follow this? [05:41] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [05:41] I'm not good with it either.. [06:28] So I'm out of ideas. I'm using the g++-4.8 package from Saucy. Anyone have any suggestions as to what might be causing g++ to refuse to enable threading? I'm pretty sure it's just a weird linking issue that's making g++ use the wrong lib [06:36] use the saucy version for raring? [06:36] yes [06:37] whyever would you consider doing that [06:37] I just want g++ 4.8. I figured installing the saucy package would be easier/faster than building from source [06:37] so no specific reason? [06:38] correct [06:38] !find g++ [06:38] Found: account-plugin-aim, account-plugin-facebook, account-plugin-flickr, account-plugin-google, account-plugin-jabber, account-plugin-salut, account-plugin-twitter, account-plugin-windows-live, account-plugin-yahoo, activity-log-manager (and 15869 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=g%2B%2B&searchon=names&suite=saucy§ion=all [06:39] mixing version packages is really a bad idea [06:40] I'll just build it from source then. It'll probably take 10 hours, but if using the packages is that bad an idea... [06:40] if it were some peripheral PPA, then it might fly, but something major like that will introduce way more issues than it purportedly solves, and of course is in no way supported [06:41] for example, using the raring version of handbrake on saucy [06:41] someone wanted the newest version of glibc just yesterday [06:42] saucy does come out in a few weeks, I hope you realize [06:42] Yes, I realize [06:43] ok, well good luck, whatever you decide [06:43] thank you :) [06:43] :) [06:43] I'll just install 4.8 for source [06:43] I'd rather have it in 10 hours than a few weeks :P [06:49] rcythr: it's probably easier to just set up a small chroot (and use something like schroot) than backporting the toolchain [06:50] quicker too [06:50] yea, I've come to senses. I'll just use boost/thread for a few weeks until sausy hehe :P [06:51] because a gcc build on this machine will probably finish about the same time as sausy gets released >.> [06:52] what's the error you get? because boost's thread library would rely on native threading support anyway [06:52] It's a runtime error that basically says to enable threads [06:52] and did you? [06:52] yes [06:52] both when compiling and linking? [06:52] the verbose output even shows that the threaidng model is posix [06:53] My suspicion is that somehow the linker is using the wrong library [06:53] I'm talking about the -pthread option [06:53] yes [06:53] I'm doing both in one command [06:53] with -pthread there [06:54] it's odd, maybe you missed something when getting the packages from saucy [06:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077990/ [06:54] That's my suspicion [14:53] hey all [14:54] hey === Fyodorovna is now known as wiler-nilee === wiler-nilee is now known as wilee-nilee [19:21] Hi there, no gnome-shell package on 13.10? Has it been removed from repos? [19:22] i doubt it [19:22] i see a gnome-shell package [19:22] oh I see what I did now [19:22] thank you ali1234