[03:25] <c_smith> so, for discussion on Ubuntu GNOME 13.10, should I just use #ubuntu+1 ?
[04:26] <bjsnider> no, development is focused on saucy in here, so this channel is fine
[04:31] <c_smith> bjsnider, cool
[04:32] <c_smith> didn't know about Ubuntu GNOME until 13.04 was released, and man, gotta say, Gnome 3.8 is pretty cool
[04:33] <c_smith> strangely enough, I haven't run into a bug yet in 6 hours of using the machine as I usually would. XD well, aside from the issue that fglrx 13.8 needs extra patches to work properly with the 3.11 kernel.
[04:33] <c_smith> the fglrx issue is fixed with a set of patched packages from xorg edgers (whose ppa I borked my system with many times in the past. XD)
[04:35] <bjsnider> doesn't radeon work better than fglrx?
[04:36] <bjsnider> unfortunately this is not the best hardware to have on linux
[04:37] <c_smith> bjsnider, not for my Radeon HD 6670, there's a noticeable performance hit.
[04:38] <c_smith> it isn't. but I don't have the money currently to buy a new GPU.
[04:39] <bjsnider> if your board has an onboard intel chip it might be better
[05:18] <c_smith> bjsnider, I wasn't that lucky with this PC, onboard Radeon 3000
[05:18] <c_smith> my laptop, though, has a muxless Intel/Radeon pair,
[05:18] <c_smith> decent laptop, might I add.
[22:58] <darkxst> jbicha, hi
[22:59] <darkxst> can you upload the g-c-c update for seperate backgrounds?
[23:06] <jbicha> darkxst: I stumbled across a bug with that feature
[23:06] <darkxst> jbicha, what is the bug?
[23:06] <jbicha> if you change the lockscreen backend and immediately lock the screen, it's possible for the lockscreen to be white instead of the picture it's supposed to be
[23:07] <jbicha> it felt a little harder to trigger that bug with g-s-d 3.8 so I was thinking about holding off on the g-c-c update until we get approval for g-s-d
[23:08] <jbicha> if someone hits that bug, things clear up after logging out and logging back in; it's just a temporary glitch
[23:11] <darkxst> jbicha, backgrounds are not done by g-s-d anymore, however g-s-d from the archives is still loading the background plugin
[23:11] <darkxst> that said it shouldnt know anything about the screenshield backgrounds
[23:13] <c_smith> only bug I've found that I haven't reported is one that's been present for some time (currently affects 12.04, 13.04 and 13.10), and the bug is that Empathy doesn't connect to FB, is this a known issue that has a fix? or should I go ahead and report it?
[23:14] <c_smith> this bug even affects Arch, so my guess is either that it's a GNOME bug, or FB changed something again.
[23:14] <jbicha> ok, maybe g-s-d has nothing to do with it
[23:15] <jbicha> c_smith: if you don't know whether a possible bug has been reported or not, you can search for whether it's been reported
[23:16] <jbicha> if you don't find anything, go ahead and report it; if it's a duplicate bug triagers will mark the bug and you'll be able to follow the original bug easily
[23:16] <jbicha> by default, if a bug is marked duplicate you'll be subscribed to the original bug
[23:16] <c_smith> jbicha, main thing I'm not sure of is whether to report it upstream, or locally
[23:17] <jbicha> both would be great :)
[23:17] <c_smith> cool
[23:18] <c_smith> reason I was confused is because this also affects a relatively unpatched distro (Arch)
[23:19] <jbicha> well that's a clear sign that it's a gnome bug then but it might only be fixed in the 3.10 series; for saucy and previous we'd probably need to backport the fix so having a launchpad bug would help us see that
[23:19] <c_smith> hmmmmm..... on the Launchpad part, I just realized I've no freaking clue where to report it to. XD
[23:19] <jbicha> ubuntu-bug gnome-online-accounts
[23:19] <c_smith> kk
[23:19] <c_smith> keep forgetting about that program. XD
[23:20] <c_smith> I get so used to making my bug reports pretty much from scratch.
[23:21] <darkxst> c_smith, always use ubuntu-bug, it collects important information from your system!
[23:21] <c_smith> will remember to.
[23:48] <c_smith> I made a bug on with Ubuntu-bug and put essentially a lightly modified bug on the Gnome bug-tracker.
[23:48] <c_smith> now to hope that this isn't something that the devs at FB did.
[23:49] <c_smith> I noticed recently Pidgin doesn't connect properly either, so I'm getting the feeling it's something on the FB end.