[00:00] <Pastafarian> try putting the ~ section in comments
[00:00] <Pastafarian> i.e.
[00:00] <Pastafarian> "~/.conky/conkyrc_grey"
[00:00] <Pastafarian> or try the full path
[00:01] <mrrcp> ok
[00:01] <mrrcp> brb Pastafarian
[00:02] <wizbit> 8~
[00:02] <ineedhelp> it shows under addons manager that the plugin for flash in not there
[00:02] <Pastafarian> are you in chrome?
[00:02] <ineedhelp> no firefox
[00:02] <Pastafarian> thats weird
[00:02] <Pastafarian> hold on lemme take a look
[00:03] <HyElan> 呵呵
[00:03] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, is this stock ubuntu?
[00:03] <mrrcp> haha!
[00:04] <mrrcp> you tha man Pastafarian
[00:04] <ineedhelp> what do you mean by stock?
[00:04] <mrrcp> full path worked
[00:04] <Pastafarian> I've had strange path issues like that before
[00:04] <mrrcp> weird
[00:04] <iUnify> reisio: I am in config editor right now... you'd said this which I didn't fully get " iUnify: you copy a line in /etc/fstab and specify the UUID or LABEL of the FS of the device you're talking about [19:42] == CyberJacob|Away has changed nick to CyberJacob [19:42] <reisio> iUnify: which /sbin/blkid will tell you"  - for starters where is /etc
[00:04] <Pastafarian> I usually get around them by full path or cd'ing
[00:04] <mrrcp> yea good to know
[00:04] <ineedhelp> pasta what do you mean by stock?
[00:04] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, which brand on ubuntu did you install
[00:04] <Pastafarian> i.e. there is ubuntu, kubuntu
[00:04] <Pastafarian> xubuntu
[00:05] <ineedhelp> unubuntu
[00:05] <ineedhelp> ubuntu
[00:05] <Pastafarian> thats stock ubuntu ;)
[00:05] <Pastafarian> close up firefox
[00:05] <Pastafarian> and run
[00:05] <Pastafarian> sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-restricted-extras && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:06] <ineedhelp> kk i will be back :P
[00:06] <Pastafarian> ok
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> ineedhelp, Try youtube
[00:06] <mrrcp> crap
[00:06] <mrrcp> now its running ON TOP
[00:07] <mrrcp> hmm
[00:07] <Pastafarian> aha conky does that sometimes
[00:07] <Pastafarian> I believe that minimising and maximising should fix that
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> heh.. cant say ive had that issue in ages with conky
[00:08] <Pastafarian> or check the conky config
[00:08] <Pastafarian> conky can be weird
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> been using that conky-manager tool the last few weeks.
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> it makes conky fairly user friendly
[00:08] <Pastafarian> haven't even heard of it
[00:08] <Pastafarian> is it cross OS?
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> i mentioned conky-manager a few min ago in here.
[00:09] <ineedhelp> done
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> its mentioned at the webupd8 or omgubuntu blog sites
[00:09] <Pastafarian> I did mean prior ofc
[00:09] <Pastafarian> I'm in arch :P
[00:09] <Pastafarian> and I don't follow ubuntu
[00:09] <Pastafarian> except server anyway
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> its basically a set of themes and a gui tool to configure the themes.
[00:10] <ineedhelp> okay i did that
[00:10] <Pastafarian> I'll probably find it in the AUR
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> has about 30+ differnt theme/setups
[00:10] <Pastafarian> try using youtube
[00:10] <ineedhelp> kk
[00:10] <ineedhelp> it works:P
[00:11] <Pastafarian> good good.
[00:11] <ineedhelp> what i need must not be flash player then...
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> the gui lets you select what conky 'configs' to use. and lets you tweak the configs with the gui. so you can set the colors. position, and even some other aspects of the configs like the network device. position,m and time format
[00:11] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, one thing
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> ineedhelp, In FF plugins its called shockwave flash I believe
[00:11] <ineedhelp> yea it was not there
[00:11] <Pastafarian> do you plan on using stuff like iPlayer or 4oD
[00:12] <Pastafarian> i.e. online tv
[00:12] <ineedhelp> probably
[00:12] <mesoderm> When trying to boot from the livecd I get the following error: "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block" ... any idea what's causing this?
[00:12] <Pastafarian> Dr_Willis, been in dire need of that for a long time conky has
[00:12] <ineedhelp> what i am trying to get work is a chat room called chatforfree.org
[00:12] <mesoderm> It's weird because I am able to boot a debian livecd, and I was even able to boot the Ubuntu livecd once and run off the CD. When I rebooted to actually install ubuntu, it wouldn't boot for some reason and gave me that error
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> ineedhelp, Did you restart it after installing the restricted extras, it should of been closed anyway.
[00:12] <ineedhelp> yes i did
[00:12] <Pastafarian> mesoderm, that is usually when a kernel was compiled corrupt or with missing parts
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> Pastafarian:  theres been some other simniler tools out for the last year or 3  - conky seems to get a spike in popularity for a bit.. then dies off. ;)
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> i tnd to fullscreen all my apps. so i dont even use conky much on most machines
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> mesoderm, check the sum, and make sure you have good burn, is this a ubuntu ISO?
[00:13] <ineedhelp> does anyone know what this chat site uses ? chatforfree.org?
[00:13] <mesoderm> Pastafarian, I verified that the CD burned correctly and it already booted once (I was able to use the desktop on the livecd just fine -- it wasn't until I rebooted that it didn't work)
[00:13] <pinPoint> is there a good tutorial out there to install apache 2.4 and php5.4 from apt-get versions on 12.04 lts now?
[00:13] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, seems to work for me with flash ok here
[00:13] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, irony eh
[00:13] <ineedhelp> that chat site?
[00:14] <Pastafarian> I was arguing with the devs earlier about this
[00:14] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, yes
[00:14] <mesoderm> (And it's a Xubuntu ISO)
[00:14] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, I suggest googling for a apache 2.4 ubuntu PPA
[00:14] <mrrcp> -p 60 fixed thatr
[00:14] <Pastafarian> there's quite a few to choose from
[00:14] <ineedhelp> do you have any other plugins installed that would affect it cause all i have is a black screen lol
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> Pastafarian, You, arguing, no do tell. ;)
[00:14] <Pastafarian> but be aware they are no where near as easily maintained
[00:14] <mesoderm> Pastafarian, It works fine on my other computers too
[00:15] <Pastafarian> wilee-nilee, they don't want to update to 2.4 in LTS, its a security issue with RC4 likely being cracked and forward secrecy not working due to 2.22
[00:15] <sfarber53> Is this a good place to ask questions about the xfce interface?
[00:15] <Pastafarian> Nor do they want to speed up rolling it out
[00:15] <pinPoint> Pastafarian: did you get your install going?
[00:15] <Pastafarian> Unfortunately pinPoint I cannot push PPAs to production :/
[00:15] <Pastafarian> However I am fairly sure they work
[00:16] <ineedhelp> pasta the home page for the site comes up but when i go to login it is just a black screen
[00:16] <Pastafarian> just make sure you've purged all the 2.22 packages
[00:16] <pinPoint> Pastafarian: to production as in a production environ. in your place?
[00:16] <Pastafarian> one sec ineedhelp I'll have a look
[00:16] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, yeah.
[00:16] <ineedhelp> thanks mate i appreciate all of your help:)
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> sfarber53, ask and you will see. ;)
[00:17] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, I have it working in chrome
[00:17] <Pastafarian> testing ff now
[00:17] <ineedhelp> that is weird
[00:17] <pinPoint> what are you two working on?
[00:18] <ineedhelp> he is helping me get on a site
[00:18] <ineedhelp> something is not letting me use it
[00:18] <pinPoint> My apache 2.2 works fine, I just want that bleeding edge security stuff, speed enhancements
[00:18] <pinPoint> i see
[00:18] <Pastafarian> works for me in both ineedhelp
[00:18] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, me too
[00:18] <ineedhelp> maybe i need to restart my computer....
[00:18] <Pastafarian> I want Forward secrecy running yesterday
[00:18] <ineedhelp> brb
[00:18] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, try that it might help
[00:19] <Pastafarian> 2.2 is great, but it doesn't support the modern ciphers that I want to use
[00:19] <pinPoint> I want PFS too!!
[00:19] <Pastafarian> at the moment 2.22 only works in chrome and safari I think
[00:19] <pinPoint> I also want to force at least tlsV1.1+ on everyone
[00:19] <Pastafarian> pin you should be able to do that
[00:19] <Pastafarian> give me a sec to check my server and its config
[00:20] <pinPoint> Pastafarian: I use SSLCipherSuite ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:AES256-GCM-SHA384:RC4+SHA:!DH:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA
[00:20] <Pastafarian> I was pretty sure we were running with 1.1 higher though it might be 1.0+
[00:21] <Pastafarian> scan your server with https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest for tips
[00:21] <pinPoint> i did
[00:21] <pinPoint> got an A
[00:21] <pinPoint> but i see only about 3 1.2tls' in there
[00:21] <Pastafarian> a newp, I still support 1.0
[00:21] <junktext> I can't stick around on chat (as I have to go somewhere, but I'll still idle), but if anybody has experience with fixing Steam, I have posted it on the forums here (so please respond there if you have any suggestions):  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2171881
[00:22] <ineedhelp_> still not working.....
[00:22] <Pastafarian> I get 1.2 on safari and chrome with FS
[00:22] <nightdrever> i use thunderbird for an hotmail account however i dont get messages in tunderbird that in hotmail they go to a pop folder..... is there away to fix this?
[00:22] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, I'm a bit limited as I am not in ubuntu for comparison
[00:22] <ineedhelp_> its fine lol
[00:22] <Pastafarian> do other sites with flash work ok?
[00:22] <ineedhelp_> youtube does that is why i said it might be another plugin
[00:22] <Pastafarian> youtube might not be a great test because if you dont have flash it uses html5
[00:22] <pinPoint> I get no FS anywhere. :/
[00:23] <pinPoint> but I do have a 100, 95,90,90 score so I don't know
[00:23] <Pastafarian> lemme read out my settings
[00:23] <ineedhelp_> hold on i will try another site
[00:24] <OerHeks> nightdrever, i thought hotmail was dead, and you have to switch to 16 char-password-max outlook ?
[00:24] <Pastafarian> SSLCipherSuite EECDH+AES:EDH+AES:-SHA1:EECDH+RC4:EDH+RC4:RC4-SHA:EECDH+AES256:EDH+AES256:AES256-SHA:!aNULL:!eNULL:!EXP:!LOW:!MD5
[00:24] <Pastafarian> that gives
[00:24] <ineedhelp_> ahh what
[00:25] <Pastafarian> 100 95 08 90
[00:25] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, I was chatting to pinPoint
[00:25] <ineedhelp_> o lol
[00:25] <marcoo> i can't make Transmission work properly, i want to set the priority of a file but it wont let me
[00:26] <marcoo> how can i do that?
[00:26] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, any progress?
[00:26] <mesoderm> Is there anything bad that will happen if I deactivate UEFI boot in the BIOS and use CSM?
[00:27] <ineedhelp_> i am trying to see if there is a plugin that i might need that i do not have installed
[00:27] <mesoderm> (I'm having problems with EFI and radeon driver)
[00:27] <Pastafarian> mesoderm, not likely I think
[00:27] <pinPoint> I got 4 FS where I wasn't able to before but my Key exchange droped to 80 instead of 90
[00:27] <Pastafarian> it will take longer to boot I think
[00:27] <Pastafarian> thats about it
[00:28] <pinPoint> I was getting to Fails on two types of browsers
[00:28] <mesoderm> Pastafarian, OK Thanks. I was just worried that it might break certain hardware or something
[00:28] <ineedhelp_> this just does not make any sense to me what so ever it should work
[00:28] <pinPoint> IE6/XP and IE11/Win8.1
[00:28] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, I think you get a fail on one of the IE
[00:28] <nightdrever> ok my 'junk' mail from hotmail isnt getiing to thunderbird how do i change this?
[00:28] <Pastafarian> that one fails only on IE6
[00:28] <Pastafarian> which is a suitable penalty for using IE6
[00:29] <pinPoint> I want to force 1.1 and force all visitors to upgrade to a newer/latest browser
[00:29] <pinPoint> I mean you can have XP on your machine but still run latest Chrome 29 wwith support for 1.2
[00:29] <pinPoint> so I don't know what the problem is
[00:30] <Pastafarian> indeed, I think if you drop 1.1
[00:30] <Pastafarian> without the other 1.2 suites
[00:30] <Pastafarian> you will fail a lot of browsers
[00:30] <Pastafarian> since apache 2.22 doesnt do most of the 1.2 suites
[00:30] <Pastafarian> rock and hard place...
[00:30] <pinPoint> :/
[00:31]  * wiak is trying to encode somethings but my ubuntu system just reboots randomly
[00:31] <wiak> bah
[00:31] <pinPoint> how about tlsv1.1 minimum, its not much to ask
[00:31] <nightdrever> my 'junk' mail from hotmail isnt getiing to thunderbird how do i change this?
[00:31] <pinPoint> and Eol on all SSLv
[00:32] <gener1c> man , is it only me or does eclipse have issues with java lately
[00:33] <gener1c> no perspective out of the box no highlighting
[00:33] <gener1c> whats going on :(
[00:33] <gener1c> 12.04 LTS FTL
[00:34] <Pastafarian> nightdrever, thats a config on hotmail's side I think
[00:34] <pinPoint> Pastafarian: with #SSLCipherSuite ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:AES256-GCM-SHA384:RC4+SHA:!DH:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA - I get 100,95,90,90
[00:34] <Pastafarian> you might need to disable their junk filter
[00:34] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, what about FS?
[00:34] <pinPoint> No FS in site... this is depressing.
[00:35] <Pastafarian> yup I compromised to get some FS if not all
[00:35] <ineedhelp_> this just makes no sense i works for you and not me
[00:35] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, you got chromium installed?
[00:35] <Pastafarian> try it with that
[00:35] <ineedhelp_> you are talking about google chrome?
[00:35] <Pastafarian> I'm not in ubuntu, I am in arch linux so it not working isn't so crazy.
[00:35] <Pastafarian> and yeah ineedhelp_
[00:36] <Pastafarian> but it will be chromium for linux
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, You looking in all the possible folders, the ones in the gmail section like spam?
[00:36] <ineedhelp_> what is arch linux
[00:36] <smaudet> gener1c: I don't use eclipse, but if I can point you towards another editor, just use a text editor ;) (any really)
[00:36] <Pastafarian> a different operating system ineedhelp_
[00:36] <smaudet> gener1c: also !ot
[00:36] <ineedhelp_> is it easier to use than ubuntu?
[00:36] <Pastafarian> in short, absolutely not :P
[00:36] <kostkon> ineedhelp_, not really
[00:36] <ineedhelp_> lol
[00:37] <Pastafarian> for a new person to linux, its totally impossible to use I think
[00:37] <bazhang> !ot
[00:37] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ it is not a 'different operating system' in the strict sense - different distro, which means all the CONFIGURATION is very different
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, Doh, ah hotmail, sorry you lookin in ever folder though right
[00:37] <pinPoint> ECDHE_RSA Tlsv1.1, how is https google doing it?
[00:37] <ineedhelp_> smaudet i know that:P
[00:37] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ he is right about it not being 'easier'
[00:37] <mrrcp> nah linux is simple
[00:37] <mrrcp> lol
[00:37] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, they're probably on nginx or another webserver
[00:37] <Pastafarian> mrrcp, the install process for arch is more than a little involved
[00:37] <smaudet> mrrcp: linux is #ubuntu-offtopic sorry for encouraging
[00:38] <smaudet> pinPoint: again, #offtopic, but I think they have/had some custom stuff
[00:38] <gener1c> i installed eclipse and i cant seem to be able to use the jdk part of it
[00:38] <gener1c> no java perspective no new java project no nothing
[00:39] <Pastafarian> indeed, google make their own hardware remember ;P
[00:39] <pinPoint> smaudet: alright, thanks.
[00:39] <Pastafarian> custom servers are highly likely
[00:39] <smaudet> !ot | gener1c
[00:39] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, you got chromium installed?
[00:39] <smaudet> gener1c: try #eclipse perhaps
[00:39] <gener1c> its a package
[00:39] <ineedhelp_> chromie?
[00:39] <ineedhelp_> crome
[00:39] <gener1c> it doesnt install right
[00:39] <Pastafarian> yes
[00:39] <smaudet> eclipse is #eclipse, it is not #ubuntu
[00:39] <Pastafarian> sudo apt-get install chromium
[00:39] <gener1c> apt-get install eclipse
[00:39] <Pastafarian> its chrome essentially
[00:39] <smaudet> gener1c: look for help from them first
[00:40] <gener1c> fine
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> !info chromium
[00:40] <ineedhelp_> why the fuck do i search for shit just use the terminal seems to work better
[00:40] <Pastafarian> really?
[00:40] <smaudet> !info eclipse
[00:40] <Pastafarian> what have they called it now?
[00:40] <bazhang> !language | ineedhelp_
[00:40] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ ikr
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> chromium-browser i belive
[00:40] <ineedhelp_> sorry baz
[00:40] <brad9001> 	hello all, I just set up dovecot and I wanted to see what email client you guys would recommend because I dont like thunderbird
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> !info chromium-browser
[00:40] <ineedhelp_> sorry guys
[00:41] <smaudet> !info chromium-browser
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> theres some shoot-em-up game called chromium
[00:41] <smaudet> no info - its there
[00:41] <smaudet> I have it installed
[00:41] <kostkon> !find chromium
[00:41] <smaudet> my update-alternatives knows about it
[00:41] <Pastafarian> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[00:41] <Pastafarian> then try opening the site in chrome and see if it loads
[00:42] <ineedhelp_> yea the last command you gave me did not work lol
[00:42] <ineedhelp_> i am getting errors...
[00:42] <smaudet> No...
[00:43] <smaudet> it should be in the repos
[00:43] <smaudet> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/universe amd64 Packages <- my version
[00:43] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[00:43] <Pastafarian> package lists probably not up to date so run the above ^
[00:44] <ineedhelp_> that seems to be working so far
[00:44] <smaudet> The update part will
[00:44] <smaudet> the other part may still error
[00:45] <smaudet> If it doesn't work the ppas you need are here: https://launchpad.net/chromium-browser
[00:46] <Pastafarian> smaudet, I'm sure its meant to be in the repo
[00:46] <Pastafarian> I installed it not too long ago
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> its in the universe repo
[00:47] <Pastafarian> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/chromium-browser/
[00:47] <smaudet> Pastafarian, yeah probably just un-updated repo lists
[00:47] <Pastafarian> it'll work from that using the software center if needed
[00:47] <smaudet> If he's installing chromium for the first time I'll also wager this is a brand new ubuntu install
[00:47] <Pastafarian> true
[00:47] <Anti> Guys i really need help i naad tro change my display but ubuntu cant find the display
[00:48] <Pastafarian> he's trying to get a website working
[00:48] <ineedhelp_> when i go to the site it asks if i want shockwave to run i click yes and then i just get a black screen!
[00:48] <Pastafarian> it only seems to need flash but it won't work with it in firefox
[00:48] <smaudet> Mmm
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> !details | Anti
[00:48] <smaudet> there was a guy in here with a similar problem yesterday
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> err.. shockwave4 is not flash is it?
[00:48] <Pastafarian> shockwave isnt
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> i thought shockwave died out like years ago
[00:48] <andornaut> Anyone have a recommendation for a program that helps create custom install scripts? Essentially a make / ant / etc but more simple - basically for running recipes like d/l this from github, run make && make install, etc. I just create shell scripts now, but I was wondering if there are alternatives for local deployment (so, not ansible / chef / puppet / etc) ?
[00:48] <Pastafarian> shockwave it super dated
[00:48] <Pastafarian> Dr_Willis, it doesnt ask me for shockwave
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> whats the url?
[00:49] <ineedhelp_> i hate shockwave it is trash
[00:49] <ineedhelp_> this still wont work even with chrome
[00:49] <smaudet> Dr_Willis: Adobe is incredibly confusing. There's Flash, Chrome's Pepper, Gnash, Gordon, Shumway, Shockwave, Air, Flex, and half a dozen Flash IDEs
[00:49] <Anti> Okai i changed my display setting now everytime i boot my pc it boots then loads a black screen
[00:50] <smaudet> Dr_Willis: not to mention about 10 different versions of the flash player
[00:50] <Anti> I changed my display setting using xrandr
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> Anti:  the login screen dosent work either?
[00:50] <Anti> Nope nothing i only have recovery mode
[00:51] <smaudet> I've rarely seen anyone actually use Shockwave, don't know why they haven't just killed it yet.
[00:51] <Anti> Thats the only way i have to fix this
[00:51] <ineedhelp_> this is irritating....
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> Anti:  so how did you change your display setting?
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  what is the url?
[00:52] <ineedhelp_> www.chatforfree.org
[00:52] <Anti> Well i changfwd ot using xrandr
[00:52] <ineedhelp_> it works with windows
[00:52] <Anti> But before then it was booting in to ubuntu
[00:52] <Anti> Now its not
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> Anti:  asfar as i know xrandr will not change the res or settings system wide..
[00:52] <Pastafarian> http://www.chatforfree.org/
[00:52] <Anti> :/
[00:52] <client> ping 8.8.8.8
[00:53] <reisio> iUnify: get it?
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> i diddnt think xrandr changes survived a reboot either
[00:53] <Pastafarian> client?
[00:53] <ineedhelp_> it wont let me sign in on chrome or ff
[00:53] <reisio> you'd probably need to put them into a conf, yeah
[00:53] <Anti> Thats all ive done i made a custom mode
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, For some rteason in my FF adboe flash is called shockwave flash 11.2, must be an inside joke this is the flash from the restricted extras the flash plugin.
[00:54] <Pastafarian> Dr_Willis, could it be a HAL issue?
[00:54] <reisio> shockwave flash is the older more fuller name of flash :)
[00:54] <reisio> not to be confused with just shockwave
[00:54] <Anti> To allow me to use another screen resolutions now it worked but aftrer restart it shows black screen
[00:54] <kostkon> and it was a macromedia product
[00:54] <reisio> which never really caught on
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> ah, thats what I fighured
[00:55] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, try running this
[00:55] <Pastafarian> sudo apt-get install hal
[00:55] <ineedhelp_> wait reisio
[00:55] <Pastafarian> if they have some kind of weird flash DRM on it
[00:55] <Pastafarian> that could be why
[00:55] <reisio> ineedhelp_: you should only need "flash" for that site
[00:55] <Anti> Should i uninstall xrandr
[00:55] <reisio> pretty unlikely for a site like that
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  that site seems to be working for me. It is using flash
[00:55] <reisio> I don't have a webcam handy to test it
[00:55] <ineedhelp_> okay but shockwave has crashed on me before on that site
[00:55] <Pastafarian> Dr_Willis, I get the same
[00:55] <reisio> but Dr_Willis has :p
[00:55] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, are you sure flash is working?
[00:55] <reisio> ineedhelp_: that's pretty typical on any OS, though :)
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> i got a webcam but i am in a text only chat
[00:55] <Pastafarian> test it on the adobe site
[00:56] <ineedhelp_> kk
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> Anti, run just xrandr and it will tell you waht resolutions will work
[00:56] <Anti> No it dont
[00:56] <Anti> It show cant open display
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> Anti, does here is this from a tty?
[00:56] <Anti> Sorry
[00:57] <Anti> Tty ?
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> yea.. i think i will avoid chatforfree in the future.. ;) had 5 people all  wantinbg my A/S/L
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[00:57] <smaudet> reisio: are you 100% sure about that? Perhaps I'm thinking of something else but you used to be able to download a seperate shockwave plugin, for stuff that e.g. Shockwave Director produced.
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> anti ctrl-alt f1 gets yo to the tty console
[00:57] <ineedhelp_> i can't find the test flash thing lol
[00:57] <reisio> smaudet: right, that never really caught on
[00:57] <Anti> When booting ?
[00:57] <reisio> smaudet: shockwave and shockwave flash, two different things, the latter is now commonly just called 'flash'
[00:57] <smaudet> reisio: you're right, but there were some lone instances of it
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> Anti:  at any time after the system has booted
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Anti, From the desktop or if the OS is running generally.
[00:58] <reisio> yeah I can remember one or two :p
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> Anti:  alt-ctrl-f# get to the consoles
[00:58] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[00:58] <reisio> SWF, shock wave flash, etc. :)
[00:58] <Pastafarian> that should tell you the version
[00:58] <ineedhelp_> it says it is running on my system
[00:58] <Pastafarian> and show the bouncing cube animation
[00:58] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: what version number?
[00:58] <Anti> Okai i have that
[00:58] <smaudet> also what site
[00:59] <Pastafarian> http://www.chatforfree.org/
[00:59] <Pastafarian> ^ that site
[00:59]  * smaudet deep breath
[00:59] <smaudet> here goes
[00:59] <ineedhelp_> it says the version number is 10,1,999,0 which is not even on the list
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Anti, Have you tried a nomodeset boot as well, it is hard to tell if you have the resolution wrong or maybe need graphic drivers.
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> or both
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> diving into the shallow and dirty end of the internet pool ;)
[00:59] <Anti> I also get cant open display there
[01:00] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ you don't have the pepper flash installed yet then
[01:00] <smaudet> hang on
[01:00] <Anti> In tty1
[01:00] <ineedhelp_> how many flashs do i need geeze lol
[01:00] <Anti> Nope ive not tried that
[01:00] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ ikr? lol
[01:00] <smaudet> anyways go to chrome://plugins and tell me if you see any flash version in there
[01:01] <ineedhelp_> i think this is the 3rd one i should just call adobe and make them figure it out lol
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> Anti, ealier today you said you ran a xrandr resize but did not set it is this correct?
[01:01] <Anti> Yeah i never save it
[01:01] <ineedhelp_> i checked in firefox...
[01:01] <Anti> But i made a cxustom mode
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Anti try this
[01:01] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: ok so here's the dealio
[01:01] <Anti> Okai
[01:01] <smaudet> I have two versions of chrome on my machine
[01:02] <fabiio> ciao
[01:02] <fabiio> !list
[01:02] <smaudet> Version A) is Chromium, it has Flash 11.2 - this may work, but its not going to work very well
[01:02] <ineedhelp_> let me check chrome cause i tried signing in on both
[01:02]  * wilee-nilee wonders why people even use chrome. ;)
[01:02] <smaudet> Version B) is Google Chrome, it has Flash 11.8, which should work just fine
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> cept for the flash I guess
[01:02] <ineedhelp_> where do i check in chrome?
[01:03] <smaudet> so ineedhelp_ you'll need to either A) install the pepper flash plugin into chromium or B) install google chrome
[01:03] <durt> hey folks, anyone know why both onboard audio inputs and my pci audigy ca0106 inputs won't route to outputs, 13.04
[01:03] <smaudet> your choice
[01:03] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ you can check in chrome://plugins
[01:03] <smaudet> type that into the url bar
[01:03] <ineedhelp_> i have google chrome it is installed
[01:03] <ineedhelp_> stil does not work
[01:03] <ineedhelp_> lol
[01:05] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: send me a screenshot of your plugins page
[01:05] <Anti> Nope shjow the same thing
[01:05] <ineedhelp_> flash is running on my system
[01:07] <ineedhelp_> what is the command for pepper based flash?
[01:07] <Pastafarian> I would have thought it came with the chromium browser package
[01:07] <Pastafarian> what is in
[01:07] <Pastafarian> chrome://plugins
[01:07] <ineedhelp_> one sec
[01:08] <Pastafarian> goes into chrome's url bar
[01:08] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: paste a screenshot of what's in there, it should look something like this: http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/842/p39i.png
[01:09] <ineedhelp_> it does look like that
[01:09] <ineedhelp_> and it is checked to always allow it was not before tho...
[01:09] <Anti> That never worked
[01:09] <Dr|Craig> anyone install ubuntu on amac
[01:10] <Pastafarian> No but there is not a reason I can think of why it wouldn't work.
[01:10] <ineedhelp_> ik that is why i am confused
[01:10] <Dr|Craig> im using a distro based on ubuntu and I can click with the trackpad but not move it
[01:10] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ can you paste a screenie of what exactly on that site isn't working?
[01:11] <smaudet> I got in just fine as a guest, I may need to find a webcam faker though
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> chromium-browser does not use/come with google;s pepper-flash as far as i know
[01:11] <ineedhelp_> do you know what a black screen looks like?
[01:11] <ineedhelp_> that is what i am getting
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> smaudet:  ;) it worked with 13.10 firefox and flash here.
[01:11] <ineedhelp_> i can't even get the sign in page to appear
[01:11] <Anti> Guys my screen when the system boots looks like its on standby
[01:11] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ do you know how to take a screenshot?
[01:11] <ineedhelp_> yes lol
[01:11] <smaudet> You should just be able to hit 'print screen'
[01:12] <smaudet> ok well then take one and post it plz
[01:12] <smaudet> Your site seems to be fully functional over here on chrome
[01:12] <Anti> :/ i guess i better find my live usb
[01:12] <smaudet> Can't help if you can't be more specific about the problem
[01:13] <Dr|Craig> anti what system are you running and ubuntu build
[01:14] <Anti> Lubuntu and its an gx620 dell
[01:14] <smaudet> Dr_Willis: I'm not even sure what version of a browser ineedhelp_ is running at the moment ;)
[01:14] <smaudet> He may or may not have opened chrome instead of chromium
[01:14] <ineedhelp_> i told you
[01:14] <Kyan`> hi!
[01:14] <Kyan`> someone alive?
[01:14] <ineedhelp_> i have ff and chrome runing
[01:14] <smaudet> Without a screenshot or more information there's not much I can do
[01:14] <Anti> Im running 13:04
[01:14] <Anti> Lubuntu
[01:15] <ineedhelp_> http://imageshack.com/user/jamie.smith.3705157
[01:15] <Dr|Craig> oh when you boot anti press e in grub and remove something that loos like quiet splash
[01:15] <dunizen> Hey fellas.
[01:15] <Kyan`> i've a problem with mtab. string is: " /dev/sda2 /backup ext4 rw 0 0 ", but i'm unable to write on it without root permissions
[01:15] <Anti> I did
[01:15] <dunizen> Can anyone give me a hand with something?
[01:15] <Kyan`> how can i fix it?
[01:15] <Dr|Craig> hmm
[01:15] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ that's not chrome
[01:15] <smaudet> that's chromium
[01:16] <ineedhelp_> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:16] <dunizen> Chromium seems to work a lot better than Chrome on linux. I had quite a few problems with it on my last install.
[01:16] <smaudet> dunizen: sure but this is flash player
[01:17] <smaudet> dunizen: and google chrome's flash player seems to work the best (better than 11.2 in chromium or firefox)
[01:17] <dunizen> smaudet: Thats a fair point. I had severe freezing and locking up issues with it though.
[01:17] <dunizen> Was never able to figure it out.
[01:17] <ineedhelp_> okay how do i uninstall chromium in terminal and install "chrome"
[01:17] <Anti> I made my own mode with xrandr ro allow me to run a certain screen resolution and it worked but after restart the pc bpox then the screen goes into standby
[01:18] <grendal-prime> hey guys im trying to use xrdp on this server but every diff machine i log in with its like i get an entirely differnt session
[01:18] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: type sudo apt-get purge chrome
[01:18] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ are you sure you want to uninstall chromium? Anyways the command is sudo apt-get remove chromium-browser
[01:18] <grendal-prime> i really need to log in and get the same session with the same settings as the last machine i loges in with
[01:18] <smaudet> for chrome you want sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable
[01:18] <dunizen> If you do remove it doesn't take care of the extra files. Purge removes everything.
[01:18] <sudormrf> Hey. I am trying to install ubuntu 13.04 on my Windows 8 machine, but the livedisk never seems to start.
[01:19] <smaudet> dunizen: sure but purge removes config, no good if you decide to reinstall later
[01:19] <smaudet> hence why its not default
[01:19] <dunizen> I'm trying to configure xchat to work with the game surge network but when I enter the info it won't connect to the server.
[01:19] <ineedhelp_> unable to locate google-chrome-stable...
[01:19] <dunizen> smaudet: Fair point my friend.
[01:19] <dunizen> You can always download the deb file from the google website.
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  theres no need to uninstall one. You can have google-chrome  and chromium both installed at the same time
[01:19] <dunizen> It automatically will install it for you.
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> the .deb file should add the google repos i belive also
[01:20] <dunizen> It did for me,.
[01:20] <ineedhelp_> well the command to install chrome is saying it cannot find the package
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  what command Exactly?
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> google-chrome is not in the default repos
[01:20] <dunizen> Yea if you go to google.com and download chrome from there the deb file will install the needed repositories for you.
[01:20] <ineedhelp_> sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | sudormrf
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  you have enabled the google repos?
[01:21] <ineedhelp_> nope no one said i had too...
[01:21] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: mm I have the repo...Dr_Willis: should I just paste the install link or have them add the repo to their sources.list?
[01:21] <smaudet> what's the official recommended path?
[01:21] <dunizen> I'd have him get the deb file.
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  i have said so .and i think it was said earlier
[01:21] <dunizen> Its the most simple
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> sudormrf, Take a looky here as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[01:21] <smaudet> k ineedhelp_ install this: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[01:21] <dunizen> There we go :)
[01:22] <ineedhelp_> i think linux is a pieace of crap after using it....
[01:22] <dunizen> It just takes some time to get used to.
[01:22] <dunizen> I hated it at first and now I love it.,
[01:22] <OerHeks> bad flash performance could be a videodriver issue too
 What else do you need help with?
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-linux-12-xx-13-xx/
[01:22] <ineedhelp_> no it is just a pain to set up
[01:22] <ineedhelp_> just getting this site to work
[01:23] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: flash and chrome having problems aren't anything to do with linux
[01:23] <sudormrf> wilee-nilee, it seems that most of this assumes that you can actually get the live disk running in the first place...
[01:23] <smaudet> that's chrome and flash's problem.
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  i think you are blaming ubuntu for adobes failures
[01:23] <grendal-prime> yuck
[01:23] <dunizen> Lol I did the same thing for a while.
[01:23] <dunizen> Finally figured it out.
[01:23] <ineedhelp_> either way something is not working.....
[01:23] <grendal-prime> everytime i run chrome now my laptop locks up
[01:23] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: What are you trying to get working?
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> if you want to test it in google-chrome - see that url above
[01:24] <grendal-prime> randomly of course
[01:24] <smaudet> dunizen: an all adobe-flash website
[01:24] <smaudet> http://www.chatforfree.org/
[01:24] <ineedhelp_> www.chatforfree.org
[01:24] <dunizen> grendal-prime: I can help you with that. Mine used to do the same thing.
[01:24] <grendal-prime> really
[01:24] <sudormrf> wilee-nilee, I've changed the boot options to boot from my live disk first... and no dice.. turned off secure boot -- no dice...
[01:24] <dunizen> smaudet: Whats the link I'm going to see if it works for me.
[01:24] <grendal-prime> i5 proc from system76
[01:25] <smaudet> dunizen: well you can scroll up to see the broken version he posted, but here:
[01:25] <grendal-prime> dunizen, what was the cause  if you dont mind me asking
[01:26] <dunizen> grendal-prime: It has something to do with the version of chrome and flash and all that. I removed chrome and installed chromium and it worked fine after that.
[01:26] <sudormrf> wilee-nilee, I don't even get the grub menu :-/
[01:26] <grendal-prime> ya tried that still does it
[01:26] <smaudet> dunizen: http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/689/2kz0.png
[01:26] <dunizen> grendal-prime: Did you just remove it or did you purge everything before installing chromium?
[01:26] <sudormrf> I just keep getting The selected boot device failed. Press <Enter> to continue. :-/
[01:26] <ineedhelp_> chrome is almost done installing...
[01:27] <smaudet> just as seedy of a website as you'd expect for an all adobe flash site, you get what you go for, I guess :P
[01:27] <grendal-prime> im fine with not using chrom...honeslty its supposed to be this all smooth minimalistic approach i still fine firefox to be quicker with less junc
[01:27] <grendal-prime> not sure if i purged the chrome ill try it.
[01:28] <ineedhelp_> thank you!
[01:28] <dunizen> smaudet: The site seems to work fine for me.
[01:28] <ineedhelp_> it works!
[01:28] <dunizen> I'm in a chat room right now.
[01:28] <Hodapp> grendal-prime: I like Firefox, but Chrome/Chromium seem to be much faster and more stable.
[01:28] <smaudet> dunizen: yup
[01:28] <ineedhelp_> dunizen i works now
[01:28] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ you're welcome
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> sudormrf, You would see grub without an install.
[01:29] <Hodapp> which annoys me because I like the add-ons better in FF.
[01:29] <ineedhelp_> thanks guys:) took awhile but we got it:)
[01:29] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: Good glad we could help :)
[01:29] <smaudet> dunizen: 11.2 works sporadically, wasn't working for him
[01:29] <Hodapp> but FF still will randomly crash on me or hog the CPU.
[01:29] <grendal-prime> ive never experinced that bliss. chrome has a lot more going on and takes alot longer to load.
[01:29] <smaudet> dunizen: had the same sort of issue with youtube a while back
[01:29] <sudormrf> wilee-nilee, err... sorry, not what I meant... I meant the splash with "install ubuntu" and "try ubuntu without installing" etc.
[01:29] <smaudet> cannot wait until their purge the filthy abom. from their site entirely.
[01:29] <dunizen> Ah/
[01:29] <Hodapp> grendal-prime: huh, weird. for me it's always been faster, particularly on my ARM laptop
[01:29] <smaudet> they*
[01:29] <smaudet> excuse the vitriol
[01:30] <grendal-prime> there are codecs specifically for chrome.
[01:30] <ineedhelp_> anyone know of a webcam program that i can show my screen with by any chance?
[01:30] <dunizen> Alrighty guys I could use a hand :)
[01:30] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: Use Skype.
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> sudormrf, I was not trying to help you other than to link you to the standard uefi help links, I know nothing about uefi.
[01:30] <smaudet> grendal-prime: right but google hasn't gotten them to work in their own browser yet ;)
[01:30] <Hodapp> smaudet: like what?
[01:30] <smaudet> And hence you get an 'unsupported' error
[01:30] <ineedhelp_> duniznen i mean for like in a chat room lol
[01:30] <sudormrf> wilee-nilee, okay, understood. Thanks.
[01:30] <grendal-prime> i mean when that sort of thing starts happening...well pretty easy to figre that things are going to need more load time
[01:30] <ineedhelp_> like manycam
[01:31] <smaudet> Hodapp: just talking about my prior experiences with chrome
[01:31] <smaudet> Hodapp: why I haven't disabled flash yet
[01:31] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: Ah lol. Yea I'm lost on that one,.
[01:31] <Hodapp> smaudet: ah, just curious which plugins you meant
[01:31] <grendal-prime> anyway i striped out all the chrome and chromium stuff..now you say just install chromium?
[01:31] <checoimg> ineedhelp_ : Alternative , Teamviewer
[01:31] <dunizen> grendal-prime: Yea thats what I did.
[01:31] <ineedhelp_> that will not work in a chat room either lol
[01:31] <dunizen> Good spot checoimg
[01:31] <dunizen> I love that proram
[01:31] <checoimg> ineedhelp_ : yes it does have a chat
[01:32] <ineedhelp_> checoimg i am talking for i want to use it inside of a chatroom
[01:32] <checoimg> let me install it here and check
[01:32] <dunizen> I think hes talking about a standalone video program to run alongside a chatroom?
[01:32] <checoimg> I remember it has a chat
[01:32] <ineedhelp_> yes
[01:32] <smaudet> Also Jitsi
[01:32] <ineedhelp_> dunizen
[01:32] <checoimg> OH I see
[01:32] <smaudet> https://jitsi.org/
[01:32] <Anti> Okai i got it working again :)
[01:32] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: Whatcha need?
[01:32] <grendal-prime> ya teamviewer is pretty kick ass really
[01:32] <dunizen> Yes it is.
[01:32] <dunizen> I use it on all my computers
[01:33] <smaudet> Jitsi or TeamViewer. Sure
[01:33] <ineedhelp_> smaudet found it
[01:33] <ineedhelp_> teamviewer is a remote desktop tool
[01:33] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ yeah and a fairly good free one
[01:33] <dunizen> smaudet: How would I add a sever to xchat? I'm trying to get into a help room for old halflife mods but can't get the server to work.
[01:33] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ eventually google chrome will do that anyways, no plugins necessary
[01:34] <smaudet> dunizen: XChat -> Network List -> Add
[01:34] <dunizen> smaudet: Yea but when I add the sever and try to connect it says error looking up IRC
[01:34] <Pastafarian>    you got ineedhelp_'s website working yet?
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> dunizen, The first screen on xchat has a list of servers is the one you want there?
[01:34] <dunizen> I think so.
[01:35] <ineedhelp_> yes we did
[01:35] <ineedhelp_> not just looking for a program to show my desktop on cam
[01:35] <ineedhelp_> now
[01:35] <smaudet> you may need to edit the details
[01:35] <dunizen> wilee-nilee: No I have to add it but when I add the server info from the website it won't connect.
[01:35] <smaudet> so click the network, hit edit
[01:35] <smaudet> edit those details ;)
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> dunizen, YOU might ask in #xchat
[01:36] <dunizen> Yea I've added the IRC link and the ports but nothing seems to work.
[01:36] <checoimg> anyways forget about TEamviewer, dependency not satisfiable
[01:36] <smaudet> dunizen: ask in #xchat then
[01:37] <dunizen> smaudet: Thanks will do.
[01:37] <smaudet> dunizen: and if that still doesn't work its not the only irc client, I used to use pidgin for irc quite a lot
[01:37] <smaudet> even wrote a manual on pidgin as a wiki
[01:38] <dunizen> smaudet: Eh I tried a few this is the only one I like so far.
[01:38] <Pastafarian> hmm desktop on camera
[01:38] <Pastafarian> xsplit?
[01:38] <dunizen> smaudet: I look it up though
[01:38] <Pastafarian> open broadcasting software?
[01:39] <Pastafarian> why wasn't his website showing up?
[01:39] <Pastafarian> gfx drivers?
[01:39] <smaudet> Pastafarian: old version of flash
[01:39] <smaudet> Pepper flash worked for him
[01:39] <Pastafarian> dayum
[01:39] <smaudet> Some graphics drivers/hardware just don't work well and the old stuff (11.2) won't work right
[01:39] <Pastafarian> stuck in chrome then
[01:40] <Pastafarian> you tried the open flash plugin?
[01:40] <smaudet> lol no I wasn't going to get him to try that
[01:40] <smaudet> That would have really been a trip up complex lane for a beginner.
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> please use nicks folks
[01:41] <smaudet> wilee-nilee: ?
[01:42] <badabing> hello my apt-get is locked
[01:42] <badabing> can someone help me
[01:44] <dunizen> badabing: What does it say in the console when you try to use it?
[01:44] <smaudet> !ask } badabing
[01:44] <OerHeks> badabing, trying to apt-get with softwarecenter open?
[01:44] <smaudet> !ask | badabing
[01:44] <badabing> OerHeks: i guess it was apply changes
[01:44] <badabing> or trying to
[01:44] <badabing> but i didnt open it
[01:44] <badabing> i just started the system
[01:45] <dunizen> badabing: Were you doing an update or anything of the sort? Are any programs updating in software center?
[01:45] <badabing> hrmmm
[01:45] <badabing> now its just stalled at cancelling
[01:45] <dunizen> What have you done since you started your computer>
[01:46] <badabing> lol
[01:46] <badabing> just tried to update
[01:46] <badabing> suE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:46] <badabing> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:46] <Pastafarian> apt-get will be locked if it's auto updating, software center is doing something etc...
[01:46] <Pastafarian> wait for it to finish what it is doing
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> badabing, You have what open right now?
[01:47] <smaudet> badabing: check what windows you have open, any icons that say 'updating'
[01:47] <badabing> just my term
[01:47] <smaudet> badabing: any tabs?
[01:47] <badabing> no idea why its locked
[01:47] <badabing> nope
[01:47] <Pastafarian> badabing, read what I just said
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> badabing, meaning the terminal with a update command?
[01:47] <Pastafarian> something is probably updating
[01:47] <fudus> open gnome system monitor and look for dpkg
[01:47] <Pastafarian> ^
[01:47] <badabing> aptd is running
[01:47] <badabing> i tried to kill it
[01:47] <badabing> but it wouldnt die
[01:48] <Pastafarian> yeah, sorry dave, I can't let you do that
[01:48] <Pastafarian> wait for it to finish
[01:48] <Pastafarian> or reboot if it won't stop
[01:48] <badabing> i did reboot
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> badabing, try these two commands.  sudo dpkg --configure -a  then  sudo apt-get -f install
[01:50] <smaudet> badabing: or try running ps ax | grep dpkg
[01:50] <badabing> nice
[01:50] <badabing> will try
[01:50] <Pastafarian> it sounds like your system is still doing something
[01:50] <smaudet> and seeing what dpkg's come up
[01:50] <badabing> nope
[01:50] <badabing> its really really locked
[01:51] <smaudet> lol ok
[01:51] <badabing> i looked in system monitor
[01:51] <badabing> cant find anything apt, software center, dpkg
[01:51] <fudus> are you in all users mode?
[01:51] <fudus> all processes*
[01:51] <badabing> dunno
[01:51] <usr13> badabing: ps aux | grep apt
[01:51] <fudus> it defaults to your current user, and dpkg would be in root
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> badabing, Hard to say, but if you have the software center open you can't run a update from the terminal or if synaptic is open in the other two I just mentined.
[01:52] <badabing> root      2036  0.0  1.2  35132  6256 ?        SNl  18:24   0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/aptd
[01:52] <badabing> zilla     9077  0.0  0.1   4388   808 pts/2    S+   18:52   0:00 grep --color=auto apt
[01:52] <badabing> ?
[01:52] <smaudet> Here's a better question (and one I don't know), what command lists the process that has a lock?
[01:52] <smaudet> I tried lsof but that doesn't actually 'access' the file I don't think
[01:53] <smaudet> different sort of lock
[01:53] <usr13> badabing: kill 2036
[01:53] <badabing> nope
[01:53] <badabing> still locked
[01:53] <badabing> lol
[01:54] <smaudet> badabing: sudo kill -kill 2036
[01:54] <usr13> badabing: sudo kill -9 2036
[01:54] <Anti> Guys thx for all your help I've managed to fix the problem and the system working great
[01:54] <Adie> My little sister loves to eat my cunt
[01:54] <badabing> YEAH!!!!
[01:54] <badabing> i tried the -9 first
[01:54] <badabing> worked
[01:54] <smaudet> badabing: does the same thing
[01:55] <smaudet> -9 is short for '-kill'
[01:55] <badabing> hrmmm
[01:55] <badabing> well now its trying to ocmplete its update
[01:55] <badabing> upgrade*
[01:55] <usr13> badabing: sudo apt-get update
[01:56] <usr13> badabing: You probably shouldn't have killed the process, probably should have let it finish.
[01:56] <usr13> badabing: But you can probably fix it.
[01:56] <badabing> usr13: its trying to install kernel images
[01:56] <smaudet> usr13, badabing, sure with enough invocations of apt-get ;)
[01:56] <badabing> but its taking forevvvver
[01:56] <smaudet> badabing: because it does take forever
[01:56] <usr13> badabing: Let it finish
[01:57] <badabing> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-53-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-53-generic
[01:57] <badabing> stuck here...
[01:57] <smaudet> badabing: you should probably install the kernel images again, after this
[01:57] <badabing> but i see hard drive activity
[01:57] <badabing> not sure what to do -.-
[01:57] <kebomix> hello i have a problem what i have been searching for a solution the last few hours, i'm connected on 3g network, when i connect to vpn through vpn, i have no internet looks like ubuntu doesn't tunnel the traffic through the vpn here is my routing table  http://pastebin.com/C6rb4TL4
[01:57] <smaudet> badabing: if the process isn't doing much but its using the hard drive, you can always verify with sudo iotop
[01:58] <usr13> patience is a virtue
[01:58] <smaudet> badabing: just wait, if you kill it there's a good chance you'll mess up  your system royally
[01:58] <badabing> error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'.
[01:58] <badabing> what does this mean?
[01:58] <smaudet> badabing: already I'd suggest installing the kernel updates again just to be  safe
[01:58] <rafaelsoaresbr>  /msg NickServ identify jl.MP4
[01:58] <badabing> hrmmm
[01:58] <smaudet> badabing: it takes a long time because there's a lot to do when installing a new kernel
[01:59] <smaudet> just be patient
[01:59] <badabing> it just keeps saying error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'.
[01:59] <badabing> i should wait?
[01:59] <jvava7> hi
[01:59] <smaudet> badabing: it was probably downloading something and the process we killed earlier can not read from the file you didn't finish downloading
[01:59] <smaudet> my best guess
[01:59] <badabing> lol
[01:59] <badabing> makes sense
[02:00] <usr13> badabing: What can't read from sda?
[02:00] <badabing> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-53-generic
[02:00] <jvava7> who use emacs?
[02:00] <badabing> no one
[02:00] <badabing> jk
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, state the actual issue
[02:01] <kebomix> is there a channel for openvpn ?
[02:01] <jvava7> ok, wilee,
[02:01] <somsip> !alis | kebomix
[02:02] <usr13> jvava7: Here is the way it works;  You ask a [Ubuntu related] question, if anyone knows something about your issue, they will give you advise.
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, You can tab complete nicks, then the other user is actually notified you are addressing them
[02:02] <badabing> great
[02:02] <badabing> i cant even exit the process
[02:02] <usr13> badabing: What process?
[02:03] <badabing> im just trying to get flash support
[02:03] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, huh never knew that
[02:03] <smaudet> neat
[02:03] <badabing> can anyone suggest a package ?
[02:03] <smaudet> I always typed them all out >_>
[02:03] <usr13> badabing: you have to let the package management system run it's course.
[02:03] <badabing> im freaking out man
[02:03] <jvava7> command semantic-analyze-proto-impl-toggle does not work, hint is 'could not find suitable implementation'
[02:03] <jvava7> ok, wille-nilee
[02:03] <blarget2_> Hello, I am new to ubuntu 9and all linux). I came from windows 7. I am duel booting right now. Anyting i should know for starters?
[02:03] <badabing> this is taking way to long
[02:03] <badabing> too
[02:03] <jvava7> another problem, my xchat dispaly half of message, i means i can watch half screen of xchat, even i maximize it
[02:03] <usr13> badabing: Are you just wanting to get flash player for firefox?
[02:03] <badabing> yes
[02:03] <blarget2_> Like.... how do i view user names in a channel in irc.
[02:03] <badabing> it says on the flash website i have 11.8
[02:04] <usr13> badabing: ok here is what you do:
[02:04] <smaudet> badabing: then you have the latest available version
[02:04] <badabing> but when i try flash it directs me to the flash update link on adobe
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> jvava7: whats happening to th other half?
[02:04] <usr13> badabing: Are you 32bit or 64?
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  with what irc client? most have a nick list at the side
[02:04] <badabing> 32
[02:04] <badabing> it worked yesterday
[02:04] <blarget2_> yeah
[02:04] <badabing> now it doesnt work today
[02:05] <blarget2_> this has a nick list in a seperate window
[02:05] <blarget2_> its xchat gnome i believe
[02:05] <jvava7> Dr Willis, the other half lost
[02:05] <usr13> badabing: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_11.2_for_other_Linux_%28.tar.gz%29_32-bit
[02:05] <blarget2_> the seperate window is a bit anoying
[02:05] <badabing> looks good usr13
[02:05] <badabing> thanks
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  most people perfer xchat to xchat-gnome. everyone seems to hate xchat-gnome
[02:05] <usr13> badabing: Untar the file
[02:05] <smaudet> blarget2_: just use normal xchat
[02:05] <jvava7> strictly, less than half, only some words of my message lost
[02:05] <smaudet> none of that gnome stuff
[02:05] <blarget2_> doesnt xchat cost money?
[02:05] <fudus> only the windows version
[02:05] <smaudet> ...well I certainly didn't pay for it
[02:05] <blarget2_> ahh
[02:05] <blarget2_> ok so
[02:05] <blarget2_> how do i uninstall this crap
[02:05]  * smaudet double checks license
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  not  on linux. ;)
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  and thats only a special case on windows.
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> theres xchat alternatives on windows that are free
[02:06] <usr13> badabing: cd Downloads/  ;  tar xvf install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
[02:06] <blarget2_> yes
[02:06] <fudus> i take the easier option and install chrome
[02:06] <blarget2_> i use one
[02:06] <fudus> with flash :P
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> even the normal xchat is free i belive on windows. he just askjs for a donation i think
[02:06] <blarget2_> called xchat wdk
[02:06] <blarget2_> its good
[02:06] <blarget2_> so... how do i uninstall
[02:07] <futurepardon> greetings all. i did an install of xubuntu 13.04, and ran updates. today,  the update manager (gui) shows the 'Updates Available' icon, and when i click it it says (grayed out) 9 updates are available. However when i click 'show updates', that box opens and says 'Your System is Up to Date'. I am wondering if this is something im dumbly missing, as this is first time in awhile i've run ubuntu, I've been running a semi-rolling debian spin for awhile
[02:07] <futurepardon> . thank you in advance to anyone that may know about this.
[02:07] <blarget2_> still learning the gui of ubuntu
[02:07] <fudus> the official build is shareware, there are unofficial builds in win for 0cost
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  uninstall what?
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> !manual | blarget2_
[02:07] <kostkon> blarget2_, use the software centre. isnt that the app you installed it from?
[02:07] <blarget2_> hmm
[02:07] <blarget2_> ok
[02:07] <fudus> futurepardon, i went to terminal and did a apt-get upgrade to get rid of those messages
[02:07] <blarget2_> ubottu,
[02:07] <blarget2_> thanks
[02:07] <FloodBot1> blarget2_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  thers no real need to worry about uninstalling xchat-gnome to install xchat.
[02:07] <smaudet> Yeah its GPLv2
[02:07] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello, i'am trying to replace xserver-xorg-core-lts-raring by xserver-xorg-core, but it results in BSOD
[02:07] <smaudet> Open Source and free
[02:08] <futurepardon> fudus: i'll try that real quick, and report back. ty for info
[02:08] <smaudet> Xchat that is
[02:08] <usr13> badabing: sudo mv libflas [use tab to complete] /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[02:08] <jvava7> i alter setting and try this long sentance, ignore this line,.........................................last lost?
[02:08] <jvava7> ok, works
[02:08] <DrLimon> hola
[02:08] <badabing> usr13: great
[02:09] <usr13> badabing: The filename is probably libflashplayer.so  Right?
[02:09] <fudus> i think it has to do with the new phased updates thing: it sees a list of upgradeable items, but the comp isn't in the phase so it popups the "system up to date" message
[02:10] <usr13> badabing: sudo mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/   #Right?  If so, just restart firefox and you're done.
[02:10] <badabing> usr13: flash website detects 11.2
[02:10] <badabing> but it is still coming up
[02:10] <usr13> badabing: Did you restart firefox?
[02:11] <badabing> all ads are being blocked on the website? is it possible scripts are being blocked?
[02:11] <smaudet> badabing: don't freak out, follow usr13's instructions, run a sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade when you're done, and you should be good
[02:11] <badabing> :(
[02:11] <usr13> badabing: Popup blocker?
[02:11] <smaudet> badabing ads? are you running noscript or adblock?
[02:11] <badabing> theres nothing on my firefox
[02:11] <badabing> blank install
[02:11] <smaudet> badabing: sounds like a phoney site then
[02:12] <smaudet> badabing: maybe their web dev broke something
[02:12] <usr13> *phony*
[02:12] <badabing> i guess so :(
[02:13] <fudus> what is the url you're trying to load
[02:13] <futurepardon> fudus, it did indeed grab the 9 upgrades and my system update icon has gone back to sleep. thank you very much. i did apt update earlier, but did not to the apt upgrade afterwards. i should have thought of that ^ ^
[02:13] <usr13> badabing: See there?  You get all in a wad over nothing.
[02:13] <Impossible> guys how do i install gtk-devel and glib-devel
[02:13] <smaudet> I think there needs to be a #howToUseTheInternet irc chat...
[02:13] <badabing> it works over proxy
[02:13] <badabing> so i thought it was on my end :(
[02:14] <smaudet> badabing: proxy could be blocking whatever is making those 'errors'
[02:14] <badabing> true
[02:14] <badabing> well you are probably right on all accounts smaudet
[02:14] <badabing> thanks for your effort usr13
[02:15] <futurepardon> i have LMDE64 on another set of partitions, the last set of updates busted my print drivers, and i was unable to make it better, some file in debian testing on 64 is corrupt, even with rolling it back and other changes, never could get it to print.. the xubuntu on a quad-core is instantaneous in responsiveness ^ ^ been years since i used xfce, i might could get used to this
[02:16] <badabing> it says base64 + strip meta checkboxes
[02:16] <badabing> is it possible to do that in a browser?
[02:16] <badabing> to mimick the behavior of the proxy
[02:16] <smaudet> badabing: ask in #firefox, I've never heard of anything like that
[02:16] <smaudet> sounds like nonsense
[02:17] <badabing> right
[02:17] <smaudet> or #chrome if that's what you're using
[02:17] <badabing> best idea tbh
[02:17] <Pastafarian> what's he trying to do?
[02:17] <Pastafarian> pretend to be a proxy?
[02:17] <futurepardon> fudus, thank u again. signing out. take care everyone, have a great night/day.
[02:18] <smaudet> Pastafarian: whatever it is its not #ubuntu
[02:18] <smaudet> usr13 helped him with his flash problem
[02:19] <fudus> apparently intel xorg team doesn't want to support xmir. another company against canonical :P
[02:19] <badabing> hrmm
[02:19] <badabing> is there a flash channel?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> !alis
[02:19] <fudus> try a youtube video to see if flash works first
[02:19] <reisio> badabing: for what? :)
[02:19] <Fezzler> What verision of Ubuntu will run on a AMD K6 266?
[02:20] <badabing> webdev broke the site im trying to browse
[02:20] <reisio> badabing: which site?
[02:20] <reisio> Fezzler: i386
[02:20] <fudus> Fezzler, none because i doubt it has the 768 of ram ;)
[02:21] <reisio> i386 lubuntu if you can manage it, in that case
[02:21] <Fezzler> Pentium class
[02:21] <Fezzler> Yes, has 2 meg ram
[02:22] <reisio> heh
[02:22] <reisio> I wouldn't even bother with Ubuntu then
[02:22] <reisio> try Debian stable without a DE
[02:22] <reisio> probably without even X
[02:24] <Fezzler> Lightweight Desktop Environment maybe?
[02:25] <Wiseau> is it possible to configure xorg to use the edid broadcast from one monitor in a multi-monitor setup but specify information for the other monitor?
[02:26] <Wiseau> i'm trying to set up a multi-monitor configuration and one of my monitors is a korean 27" so the edid is no good
[02:26] <Wiseau> but when i disable edid in xorg.conf the other monitor won't go above 800x600
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> 2mb of ram? egads
[02:32] <fudus> Wiseau, you'll need to look up manuall xorg config for that, good luck on the project :P
[02:38] <Tekno> Hi I mounted an lvm volume to the live disk and theres nothing on it yet someone told me there was data on it all I  see is one volume
[02:38] <Tekno> And a folder called lost+found
[02:39] <Tekno> Any one have a suggestion as to could the data be locked some how so I cant see it
[02:40] <usr13> Tekno: Surely there are others. Right?
[02:40] <usr13> Tekno: "an lvm volume to the live disk"?
[02:41] <Tekno> I have the ubuntu live disk loaded off cd
[02:41] <usr13> Tekno: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #Send us the URL and we'll have a look.
[02:41] <Tekno> And then mounted the lvm
[02:42] <usr13> Tekno: What is your end goal?
[02:42] <sam113101> does ubuntu use plymouth?
[02:42] <Tekno> To dump the data off the lvm so I can format the drives to zfs
[02:43] <usr13> Tekno: What data?  From what partition?
[02:43] <usr13> Tekno: mount  #What does that say?
[02:43] <beejun> mint is awesome
[02:44] <usr13> Tekno: "dump the data" ?
[02:44] <RTygart> I have an older laptop, Kubuntu was a little much for it but it worked. Now I am giving it away and I want it to run as smooth as possible, I am thinking Xubuntu or Lubuntu. Suggestions?
[02:44] <usr13> beejun: We're glad you like it.
[02:44] <usr13> beejun: ... but this is  #ubuntu
[02:44] <beejun> :)
[02:45] <PantheraRazorK> :)
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> RTygart, That is a personal opinion try both and decide.
[02:45] <antz> ^
[02:45] <RTygart> wilee-nilee: I am more talking about what is lighter.
[02:45] <antz> in terms of...
[02:46] <RTygart> I want a light weight, less bells and whistles the better.
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> RTygart, lubuntu is the lighter of the two but needs more configuring without a gui
[02:46] <usr13> RTygart: lubuntu is lightest, followed by xubuntu
[02:47] <Tekno> Http://pastebin.com/CLMzVyTy
[02:47] <antz> lubuntu seems to be much lighter
[02:47] <rtorres> alguien me puede enseñar a instalar php4 en ubuntu 12.04
[02:47] <RTygart> I will try for xubuntu. Thanks
[02:47] <Tekno> Hmm says lvm doesnt contain a valid partion
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> !es | rtorres
[02:48] <wagle> is there a meta (?) package for installing the entirety of the 32-bit support on a 64-bit 12.04 system?  I'm not finding one
[02:48] <usr13> Tekno: So, which partition do you want do "dump data" from?  sda1?  And dump it to _______________?
[02:48] <usr13> Tekno: mount | pastebinit  #Let's see what you have mounted so far.
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> wagle, what is the end goal here that has you asking this?
[02:49] <wagle> wilee-nilee: run 32 bit binaries
[02:49] <fudus> ia32-libs
[02:49] <Tekno> The lvm that its saying doesnt contain a valid partition table to the othe r 1tib drive
[02:49] <iUnify> Hey guys, does anyone know Alacarte Main Menu?  I've installed - it is supposed to be a GNOME menu editor - but nothing changes when I make edits.  GNOME menu would be the bar at the top of the screen?  Can anyone help me with this?  I'm thinking its a simple fix.
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> wagle, It does already I believe
[02:50] <smaudet> I've fixed this before, however the fix regressed - does anyone know how to get multi-touch working with synaptics touchpads?
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> multiarch
[02:50] <smaudet> I used to be able to do two/three finger right click
[02:50] <badabing> hello again
[02:50] <fudus> iUnify, you need to delete the item to get it disappear from the launcher, just dechecking doesn't work
[02:50] <badabing> trying to run apt and get this
[02:50] <badabing> error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'
[02:50] <badabing> even though the harddrive is dev/sdb
[02:50] <badabing> what is going on here?
[02:51] <wagle> wilee-nilee: nope, i tried
[02:51] <iUnify> I see no changes anywhere.  I've ADDED an item though.
[02:51] <wagle> ia32-libs seems to be it, I'll see
[02:51] <smaudet> badabing: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && df -h | pastebinit
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> wagle, was it a ubuntu binary?
[02:51] <smaudet> give me the url
[02:51] <iUnify> GNOME menu is the top menu?
[02:51] <wagle> wilee-nilee: no
[02:51] <badabing> i cant install anything right now
[02:51] <smaudet> badabing: ok
[02:51] <smaudet> you have a web-browser though yes?
[02:52] <badabing> yes
[02:52] <smaudet> df -h <-> copy paste the output into pastebin, paste the url
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> wagle, That may be the problem, not the 32 bit capability, just saying.
[02:53] <usr13> Tekno: sda1?  sdc1?  __________?
[02:53] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/5YYxg8w1
[02:53] <usr13> Tekno: What is it you want to do exactly?
[02:53] <badabing> /dev/sdb was a data drive i used to use
[02:53] <badabing> usb
[02:53] <Tekno> Http://pastebin.com/gv6TdsgJ
[02:53] <badabing> when i try to connect it ubuntu says an operation is still in progress
[02:53] <badabing> dunno
[02:54] <wagle> wilee-nilee: out of the box, 12.04/amd64 doesnt support ia32 binaries, traditionally you've had to install the 32 bit support, which I seem to be doing right now
[02:54] <smaudet> badabing: try df -a -h
[02:54] <smaudet> you have an /dev/sda, don't know why its not showing
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> wagle, I thought it did, but I never have to mess around in that way.
[02:55] <usr13> Tekno: I see that you have /dev/sdb1 mounted on /media/ubuntu/New Volume
[02:55] <fudus> ia32-libs
[02:55] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/pYYueegr
[02:55] <Tekno> Yes
[02:55] <smaudet> usr13: its his /dev/sda drive which is complaining again
[02:55] <fudus> is the package name for 32bit
[02:55] <badabing> not sure why apt-get is trying to read from /dev/sdb
[02:55] <smaudet> usr13: the one that started complaining during the kernel install
[02:55] <badabing> sda*
[02:56] <usr13> smaudet: What is he needing to do?
[02:56] <badabing> magic
[02:56] <Tekno> Usr13 yes want to dump the lvm data thwre
[02:56] <smaudet> usr13: get rid fo the error and be able to install again
[02:56] <badabing> yes
[02:56] <iUnify> Does anyone know Alacarte Main Menu?  My new addations do not appear.  ALSO though, I notice I don't see any of the ones they list as default either... meaning, Applications... I do not see "Applications" on the GNOME menu when at my desktop.... I am confused here....
[02:57] <usr13> Tekno: just delete the partition
[02:57] <smaudet> badabing: one thought, do you have an external drive did you say?
[02:57] <badabing> yes
[02:57] <badabing> that is what the OS is running on
[02:57] <smaudet> badabing: try plugging it back in
[02:57] <usr13> smaudet: He needs to just delete the partition?  Right?
[02:57] <smaudet> ...
[02:57] <badabing> yes
[02:57] <badabing> the partition is old
[02:57] <smaudet> you unplugged the external drive that your operating system was running from?
[02:57] <smaudet> XD
[02:57] <badabing> from data drive
[02:57] <badabing> no
[02:57] <badabing> its plugged in
[02:58] <badabing> just not sure why apt-get is trying to read dfrom sda
[02:58] <usr13> Tekno: Do you want to just delete sda1?
[02:58] <wagle> it executes now..  i seem to be missing libraries
[02:58] <smaudet> Ok. Let me get this straight. You have /dev/sda which is an external drive, which is no longer plugged in
[02:58] <iUnify> fudus:  any idea why I don't see any of the default menus they say are there?  Top bar, GOME menu?  When at desktop?
[02:58] <usr13> Tekno: I really don't know what you are doing, (or wanting to do).
[02:58] <badabing> ye
[02:58] <badabing> yes
[02:58] <badabing> smaudet:
[02:58] <smaudet> And you have a /dev/sdb which is where your OS is
[02:58] <badabing> yes
[02:58] <FloodBot1> badabing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <smaudet> badabing: just plug your external back in: usually /dev/sda is the drive used first, so I'd wager apt-get downloaded to that drive
[02:59] <fudus> winkey-a, filter results
[02:59] <fudus> you'll get the oldgnome list of applications in that filter list
[02:59] <usr13> Tekno: If you want to delete it, you'll need to un-mount it first.
[03:00] <fudus> under type
[03:00] <smaudet> let me know if that fixes the issue
[03:01] <iUnify> fudus: what am I supposed to do here then... delete everything?  I don't understand....
[03:01] <Tekno> Usr13 by dump I mean copy
[03:01] <iUnify> Also my new entries I dont see them..
[03:01] <Tekno> Not delete
[03:01] <fudus> what do you want to do? i thought you wanted to see a list of applications
[03:01] <smaudet> I don't know enough about the filesystem to say why your external is /dev/sda and not /dev/sdb, you'd have to ask someone else why its backwards.
[03:02] <Tekno> The issue though is I dont see any data there on the kvm
[03:02] <Tekno> Lvm
[03:02] <fudus> if you mean the menu editor, click the item and use "delete" button
[03:02] <usr13> Tekno: You mean sda1?
[03:02] <smaudet> Tekno, badabing: you aren't the same user, right? there are multiple people talking about drives, just want to make sure I'm not ignoring half the conversation
[03:03] <usr13> Tekno: If so, ls /media/ubuntu/New\ Volume/
[03:03] <badabing> smaudet:
[03:03] <badabing> it says operation pending
[03:03] <badabing> cannot access
[03:03] <badabing> :(
[03:03] <badabing> i cant even read my data on it
[03:03] <FloodBot1> badabing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:03] <smaudet> badabing: is apt-get still running?
[03:03] <badabing> yes
[03:03] <smaudet> badabing: Ctrl+C in the term window
[03:04] <badabing> Generating grub.cfg ...
[03:04] <badabing> error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'.
[03:04] <Tekno> Usr13 the new volumn is the drive I want to copy the data to from the lvm
[03:04] <smaudet> yeah your apt-get operation sounds shot
[03:04] <smaudet> lets try again
[03:04] <badabing> Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:04] <smaudet> Yes.
[03:04] <smaudet> We know
[03:04] <badabing> lol
[03:04] <badabing> k
[03:04] <Tekno> Smaudet nope two diff peeps
[03:05] <usr13> Tekno:  There are two lvm's there, one is sda1 the other is sdc1.
[03:05] <wagle> aww bummerz, it looks like I cant run my ancient linux game on 12.04..  8/
[03:05] <iUnify> Fudus: yes i want to edit... but not delete, add.... the issue is I do not see what I am adding NOR do I see what is listed as already there... I am looking from my desktop, the top menu that says ubuntu: file, edit, view, go, help.... it doesnt say applications or anything
[03:05] <smaudet> badabing: sudo apt-get autoclean
[03:05] <usr13> Tekno: So again;  Is it sda1?
[03:05] <badabing> ok
[03:05] <badabing> smaudet: it did a lot
[03:05] <fudus> iUnify, can't help then, sorry
[03:05] <smaudet> badabing: sudo apt-get clean
[03:05] <Tekno> Wouldnt those be the two drives that show up as one lvm
[03:05] <usr13> Tekno: Is it sdc1?
[03:06] <badabing> ok
[03:06] <smaudet> badabing: yup just cleaning up mistakes :)
[03:06] <iUnify> fudus: is where I am explaing where the changes are supposed to be made?
[03:06] <jvava7> hi
[03:06] <smaudet> badabing: sudo apt-get update
[03:06] <badabing> oh my
[03:06] <badabing> it actually worked
[03:06] <usr13> Tekno: ls /media/ubuntu/New\ Volume/   #What does that say?
[03:07] <jvava7> badcolor
[03:07] <badabing> im heading into safer waters
[03:07] <badabing> lol
[03:07] <usr13> Tekno: ls /media/ubuntu/New\ Volume/ | pastebinit   #Send us the resulting URL
[03:07] <smaudet> sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:07] <Tekno> Usr15 theres 5 drives in this machine and I dont know which is which just that I dont wqnt to loose the data on the lvm volumes
[03:07] <smaudet> and don't freak out if there are errors
[03:07] <fudus> iUnify, you're not getting access/games/graphics on the tree to the left?
[03:08] <fudus> all i used menu editor is to delete some items, so i don't know how to edit them
[03:08] <usr13> Tekno: What does ls /media/ubuntu/New\ Volume/  say?
[03:08] <badabing> oky doky
[03:08] <badabing> its running again smaudet
[03:08] <iUnify> fudus: my question is WHERE do I see the changes of what I have deleted.
[03:08] <Tekno> Usr13 that new volume I just put in there has a recyclebin foldr on it from its prior system
[03:08] <iUnify> It says it is to edit GNOME menu
[03:08] <iUnify> Where is GNOME menu?
[03:08] <badabing> back at update-initramfs:
[03:08] <smaudet> badabing: Ok, good, if its downloading etc it may take a while
[03:08] <KWhat4> Hi, What is the current stable version of glibc that ships with ubuntu?
[03:08] <usr13> Tekno: Sorry, I can't help you.
[03:08] <smaudet> badabing: yeah that just takes a bit
[03:09] <iUnify> I do not see "applications" in GNOME menu, I see it in the program Alacarte Main Menu
[03:09] <smaudet> badabing: unless you have a really fast SSD (which it doesn't sound like), you can expect it to take 10-20 minute easy
[03:09] <smaudet> I'd worry if it takes an hour or longer though
[03:09] <badabing> sooooo sloowwwwww
[03:09] <iUnify> fudus: also, ls /media/ubuntu/New\ Volume/
[03:09] <badabing> yeah
[03:10] <smaudet> !patience
[03:10] <fudus> its the dash, like you do winkey+gedit and get a text editor icon, if you deleted it in main menu it won't appear when you do winkey+gedit
[03:10] <badabing> i think its working
[03:10] <badabing> though
[03:10] <smaudet> :)
[03:10] <smaudet> good
[03:10] <badabing> thank you master buddah
[03:10] <iUnify> fudus: sorry - ls: cannot access /media/ubuntu/New Volume/: No such file or directory
[03:10] <badabing> NO!!!!
[03:10] <FloodBot1> badabing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <badabing> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-53-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:10] <badabing> error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'.
[03:10] <badabing> :(
[03:10] <smaudet> hmm
[03:10] <fudus> before when i searched winkey+xdiag i got the xdiagnose feature, i used main menu and now it doesn't appear when i do it for example
[03:10] <smaudet> your external is still plugged in right?
[03:11] <smaudet> run the df -h again for me, pastebin
[03:11] <badabing> just the one ubuntu is on
[03:11] <badabing> yes
[03:11] <iUnify> fudus: winkey +gedit?  whats the gedit key? i'm lost. i know gedit app, but what?
[03:11] <fudus> har banned
[03:11] <fudus> i mean press winkey, type gedit, you'll get a gedit icon in dash. if you delete it in alacarte it won't appear there anymore
[03:11] <badabing> /dev/sdb1       456G  135G  299G  32% /
[03:11] <badabing> udev            233M   12K  233M   1% /dev
[03:11] <badabing> tmpfs            96M  820K   96M   1% /run
[03:11] <badabing> none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[03:11] <badabing> none            240M  384K  240M   1% /run/shm
[03:11] <FloodBot1> badabing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <badabing> -.-;;
[03:12] <smaudet> badabing: also run 'dpkg -l linux-image*'
[03:12] <smaudet> pastebin, please
[03:12] <KWhat4> Can someone pastebin me the output of  sh -c /lib/libc.so.6 ?
[03:12] <smaudet> not in the channel
[03:12] <iUnify> fudus: gotcha, i dont get how it adds things then
[03:13] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/3EzE9agE
[03:13] <smaudet> KWhat4: not found
[03:13] <fudus> sh: 1: /lib/libc.so.6: not found
[03:14] <smaudet> ok that could have something to do with it
[03:14] <KWhat4> O_o where is libc?  /lib/libc.so.6 ?
[03:14] <smaudet> badabing: you have too many kernels looks like
[03:14] <badabing> lol
[03:14] <jvava7> i have a emacs question
[03:14] <badabing> how do i remove them
[03:14] <smaudet> KWhat4: dpkg -S libc.so.6 ?
[03:14] <smaudet> badabing: what's the output of uname -r?
[03:14] <badabing> 3.2.0-52-generic
[03:15] <KWhat4> smaudet: if that will give me the version that will work ;)
[03:15] <smaudet> badabing: and you have no other problems other than this update?
[03:15] <smaudet> KWhat4: it might
[03:15] <ChrisBloke> afternoon all
[03:15] <smaudet> It should find the package that has that so file in it
[03:16] <badabing> hi
[03:16] <KWhat4> aptitude show libc6 ?
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, there is a #emacs channel with over 600 people on it if needed.
[03:16] <ChrisBloke> quick query - where should I file bugs regarding Digikam from the Ubuntu PPA (Digikam 3.3.0 and KDE 4.11.1)
[03:16] <ChrisBloke> ?
[03:16] <KWhat4> can someone run that for me, im not on ubuntu and I need to try and match glibc versions to debug something
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, Here like there you state the issue.
[03:16] <smaudet> badabing: and you have no other problems other than this update?
[03:17] <badabing> nope
[03:17] <smaudet> ok, well then you'll want to uninstall the prior kernels to the one you're running right now
[03:17] <smaudet> uname -r tells you which kernel you are running
[03:17] <smaudet> 3.2.0-52-generic
[03:17] <badabing> ok
[03:17] <smaudet> you want to sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.048.74 e.g.
[03:17] <jvava7> wilee-nilee, but there no one answer my problem, whole silent
[03:18] <smaudet> badabing: and you'll want to do that for all the kernel versions listed in that pastebin you sent me, which AREN'T your current kernel, and ARE installed (ii)
[03:18] <smaudet> badabing: get busy typing
[03:18] <smaudet> ;)
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, Then either you are not giving enough details, or no one knows, stating you have a question dose neither
[03:18] <KWhat4> its 2.17
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> does*
[03:19] <smaudet> badabing: and you can hit TAB to help with the completion
[03:19] <smaudet> so you type less and make fewer mistakes
[03:20] <wiak> can someone point me to a crash logging for ubuntu 12.04?
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, Have you looked at the emacs wiki and documentations for ubuntu?
[03:20] <wiak> ffmpeg seems to crash ubuntu 12.04 :/
[03:20] <badabing> smaudet:
[03:20] <iUnify>  I am looking for a way to organize my applications in Ubuntu.  I have all of the Studio apps for example - and I am very happy with the way that Studio organizes them... namely in an approiately named folder with the link to each app... sub folders if neccessary... secondly with the fact that menu is right at the top of the screen where the Ubuntu menu is.... so, I would like VERY much to find a way to do something of this nature in U
[03:20] <badabing> im back in locked apt
[03:20] <iUnify> Ubuntu menu than I would like to at least be able to have an application launcher I can create folders in and sub folders with shortcuts to the apps.  Like Mac has.... whatever, just somthing.  Any help!?  :D
[03:20] <badabing> smaudet: how do i get out again?
[03:20] <smaudet> Ctrl+C
[03:21] <smaudet> The 'cancel' command ;)
[03:21] <badabing> it wouldnt respond
[03:21] <raptor> is there any backtack geek here?
[03:21] <antz> backtrack?
[03:21] <badabing> i had to close the terminal
[03:21] <iUnify>  I am looking for a way to organize my applications in Ubuntu.  I have all of the Studio apps for example - and I am very happy with the way that Studio organizes them... namely in an approiately named folder with the link to each app... sub folders if neccessary... secondly with the fact that menu is right at the top of the screen where the Ubuntu menu is.... so, I would like VERY much to find a way to do something of this nature in U
[03:21] <badabing> manually
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> raptor, backtrack is eol and not supported here.
[03:21] <iUnify> Sorry
[03:21] <smaudet> badabing: whatever works
[03:21] <badabing> smaudet: but now i cant remove the old kernels
[03:21] <raptor> wilee;ok
[03:22] <iUnify> still learning backtrack
[03:22] <antz> there is nothing to learn about backtrack
[03:22] <smaudet> badabing: if you could make your terminal wider (drag the window side to the right) and put up another pastebin of dpkg -l linux-image*
[03:22] <antz> you just run it
[03:22] <smaudet> I might be able to make your life easier
[03:23] <antz> just run whatever tools they have
[03:23] <iUnify> right-o... back to my dillemma.
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> !ot | antz
[03:23] <raptor> where can i find backtrack FAQs
[03:23] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/WRiuVuLp
[03:23] <jvava7> wilee-nilee, i dont know where to found  them
[03:23] <badabing> pastebin formats
[03:23] <antz> wilee-nilee: what are you talking about
[03:23] <antz> i was addressing someone who was talking about backtrack
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=emac+ubuntu&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=zu0rUvNHqOaLAofTgLgM
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> !emac | jvava7
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> thought the bot would have something
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> !emacs
[03:25] <smaudet> badabing: sudo apt-get -f remove linux-image-3.2.0-2-generic linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic linux-image-3.2.0-49-generic linux-image-3.2.0-51-generic linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, This is a good site as well, in that google list. http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/emacs
[03:26] <badabing> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:26] <badabing> smaudet: ??? :(
[03:26] <smaudet> badabing: go ahead and run that
[03:26] <jvava7> ok, thank you very much, wilee-nilee
[03:26] <smaudet> 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:26] <badabing> it will just try to reinstall
[03:26] <smaudet> hmm
[03:26] <badabing> i will be back where i started
[03:26] <smaudet> did you try running my giant command yet?
[03:26] <smaudet> sudo apt-get -f remove linux-image-3.2.0-2-generic linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic linux-image-3.2.0-49-generic linux-image-3.2.0-51-generic linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, Just trying to get you info I know nothing about it myself, and it seems not much response for you so far.
[03:26] <badabing> yes
[03:27] <badabing> it doesnt run
[03:27] <badabing> because its asking for dpkg
[03:27] <smaudet> ok we'll uninstall the half installed package first then
[03:27] <badabing> which?
[03:27] <smaudet> sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:28] <badabing> ok
[03:28] <badabing> its running
[03:29] <smaudet> did it work?
[03:29] <smaudet> ok
[03:30] <badabing> lol
[03:30] <badabing> error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'.
[03:30] <badabing> ...
[03:30] <smaudet> can you pastebin the entire output so far from that dpkg command?
[03:30] <badabing> sure
[03:32] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/P2cSiZNV
[03:32] <badabing> godspeed
[03:33] <smaudet> ls -la /etc/kernel/postrm.d/
[03:35] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/3sKvi3p1
[03:35] <Kalel> Greetings.
[03:35] <Kalel> I just had reinstalled Ubuntu 13.04. When came back, the mouse didn1t works.
[03:36] <Kalel> didn't*
[03:36] <Kalel> What shoud I do now?
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> Kalel, usb standard mouse?
[03:36] <Kalel> wilee-nilee: No. Laptop's mouse - touchpad
[03:36] <smaudet> badabing: dpkg -l linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic - just tell me if it says (ii) or (un) next to the package
[03:36] <smaudet> Or neither
[03:37] <Kalel> stay frozed in the centre of the csreen.
[03:37] <badabing> pH
[03:37] <smaudet> We want it to say (un)
[03:37] <Kalel> screen
[03:37] <Kalel> I'm now in another system, installed in dual. "suse'.. Works perfecly.
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> Kalel, Do you know the unlock on it if there is one, It seems to have worked in last 13.04 is this right?
[03:38] <Kalel> Right. Was unlocked, wilee-nileee.
[03:38] <smaudet> badabing: and sudo dpkg --configure -a still complains too?
[03:38] <badabing> im sure
[03:38] <badabing> we havent changed anything
[03:39] <smaudet> Not you're sure, try it - we don't know that we haven't changed anything - and you have actually
[03:39] <smaudet> that package was iF previously
[03:39] <smaudet> now its pH
[03:39] <badabing> ok smaudet
[03:39] <badabing> cheers
[03:39] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Sound does not work if I just load ubuntu. If i load Windows XP then restart then load ubuntu it loads but volume is reset to about 70. If I use alsamixer when sound doesnt work it only shows "Beep". Ubuntu and Lubuntu 13.04
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> Kalel, If it were me I would look on the web for info on that computer and the pad, and if it worked before consider maybe a bad install, and try again, since it takes a short time, and check the iso sum if doing so.
[03:40] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/q9nre7Cf
[03:40] <Kalel> heayeyaeyyeayaey: Did you tried select the ranother, if available, card in the sound configuration?
[03:40] <Kalel> *another
[03:40] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Kalel: ?
[03:41] <smaudet> ok, that's progress
[03:41] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Kalel: oh
[03:41] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Kalel: yes didnt work
[03:41] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Kalel: i remember when i trie
[03:41] <badabing> i guess you were right
[03:41] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> d
[03:44] <Kalel> heayeyaeyyeayaey: If there is another card, you can select it. 'stereo', Dolby surround 4.1, etc.. If you're sure isn't a hardware problem, I suggest you have a look on ask ubuntu for more detailable answeres questions.
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> ive seen weird sound cards in the past that would  if i directly booted to linux.   If i booted to windows first then to linux. they dident work. guess the reverse could happen also. ;)
[03:44] <Kalel> wilee-nilee: Figuredout something?
[03:45] <smaudet> badabing: I'm still here, just trying to figure out which package needs uninstalling next ;)
[03:45] <badabing> smaudet: sure
[03:45] <badabing> apt-get update runs through again
[03:45] <smaudet> yeah that's fine
[03:45] <smaudet> update just contacts some servers and writes a text file
[03:45] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Im asking this alot with different usernames :s
[03:45] <smaudet> no biggie
[03:46] <smaudet> If you couldn't do that you'd not be on irc ;)
[03:47] <blarget_ubuntu> hello.
[03:47] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Kalel: DO
[03:47] <guest_____> Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit is installed on my laptop.  How do I downgrade to 32-bit?
[03:47] <smaudet> badabing: go ahead and sudo dpkg -P linux-image && sudo dpkg -P linux-image-generic
[03:48] <smaudet> I don't seem to have them installed, and I'm running fine
[03:48] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> NO
[03:48] <blarget_ubuntu> I have installed 12.04 lts and i realised that it steam doesnt like 12.04 lts because its missing libc files because of bad drivers. The driver installer for 12.04 is not there anymore so now i have had to download the 13.04 iso to do an iso upgrade from within 12.04 just for steam.... fun
[03:48] <blarget_ubuntu> should have saw this coming
[03:49] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> optimusprimem: hello WORLD284
[03:49] <blarget_ubuntu> unless someone has a solution for running steam under 12.04 lts
[03:49] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> heayeyaeyyeayaey: NOPE
[03:49] <blarget_ubuntu> are you a bot?
[03:49] <blarget_ubuntu> :/
[03:50] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu: seems to work for me, I'll let you know more
[03:50] <smaudet> still installing
[03:50] <smaudet> been meaning to anyways
[03:50] <blarget_ubuntu> well it gives me an error
[03:50] <guest_____> Can Ubuntu 12.04 64bit LTS be downgraded to 32bit?
[03:50] <badabing> fuck
[03:50] <smaudet> ?
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> guest_____ no
[03:50] <badabing> apt is locked again
[03:50] <optimusprimem> is crazy?
[03:51] <smaudet> badabing: until it throws an error
[03:51] <smaudet> don't worry
[03:51] <smaudet> and I'm not sure those /dev/sda errors mean anything
[03:51] <adom> is there a way to see the current amount of workspaces/desktops enabled via command-line?
[03:51] <smaudet> You may be able to fix it with a reboot, but don't do that until we fix your kernel stuff
[03:51] <blarget_ubuntu> SmallR2002, I will wait until you have an answer for me, if not, i will upgrade to 12.04
[03:51] <blarget_ubuntu> i mean
[03:51] <blarget_ubuntu> 13.04 sorry....
[03:51] <guest_____> wilee-nilee So I will have to do a clean install of Ubuntu 12.04 32bit LTS?
[03:52] <badabing> (Reading database ... 309778 files and directories currently installed.)
[03:52] <badabing> Removing linux-image-generic ...
[03:52] <badabing> boom smaudet
[03:52] <smaudet> ?
[03:52] <smaudet> 'boom' does not computer :P
[03:52] <badabing> lol
[03:52] <smaudet> compute*
[03:52] <badabing> i dunno
[03:52] <badabing> seems like it ran through
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> guest_____ basically yes, theoretically you can downgrade that but it would be a fools journey.
[03:53] <smaudet> if it didn't say anything and it just ran then it worked.
[03:53] <smaudet> ok try uninstalling the kernel image again so
[03:53] <badabing> ok
[03:53] <smaudet> sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:53] <mwallacesd> Hi there, Is it a correct command: useradd -d /home/newuser -G  newusergroup -m -k /etc/skel          SKEL as (skeleton_dir) OR Can I user useradd -dGmk followed dir???
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, What is the reason to do this?
[03:54] <guest_____> Okay, I will just download the 32 bit version and then install.  The one I have installed currently is fairly new and no important stuff has been stored.
[03:54] <iUnify> Hey Guys.... you know the Ubuntu Search...?  For example, when I click the "Applications" tab... it gives me results in 3 fields:  Recently Used, Installed and Available For Download... can I consolidate that to just Installed?
[03:54] <iUnify> I dont want to see ALL the other results and have seperate catigories.... just keep it simple.
[03:54] <badabing> uh oh smaudet
[03:54] <smaudet> ?
[03:54] <badabing> its going into its loop thing
[03:55] <smaudet> ?
[03:55] <vanishing> guest_____: whats wrong with your current install?
[03:55] <badabing> Examining /etc/kernel/postrm.d .
[03:55] <badabing> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs-tools 3.2.0-53-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:55] <badabing> update-initramfs: Deleting /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:55] <badabing> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-53-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:55] <badabing> next will be sda -.-
[03:55] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, is steam working for you?
[03:55] <vanishing> blarget_ubuntu: no need to flood the channel man...just use pastebin
[03:56] <vanishing> blarget_ubuntu: sorry wrong ping
[03:56] <blarget_ubuntu> lol
[03:56] <vanishing> badabing: ^
 The 64 bit version is running a bit slow in its default desktop environment.  I am very conservative in the number of programs open in the foreground and in the background.
[03:56] <badabing> yup
[03:56] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, agreement window came up
[03:56] <badabing> man
[03:56] <badabing> this system got hosed
[03:56] <blarget_ubuntu> mine did too
[03:56] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, steam is updating
[03:57] <smaudet> badabing, what is it doing?
[03:57] <badabing> same thing
[03:57] <badabing> cannot read sda
[03:57] <smaudet> badabing, we may try manually deleting the image
[03:57] <smaudet> badabing, cd to /boot
[03:57] <guest_____> Would the 32 bit version be a bit more stable and run wmoother?
[03:57] <smaudet> rm the /initrd.img-3.2.0-53-generic file
[03:57] <guest_____> * smoother
[03:58] <smaudet> be VERY CAREFUL you get the right one
[03:58] <smaudet> once you do, try the dpkg -P command again
[03:58] <smaudet> let me know if it quites cycling
[03:58] <smaudet> quits*
[03:58] <badabing> hrmm
[03:58] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, about 1/3 done with updates
[03:59] <badabing> its not there
[03:59] <badabing> highest 52
[03:59] <guest_____> i am leaving.  Take care folks!
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, I found them about the same, bu my computer has the ram to run both and is a dual core.
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> but*
[04:00] <smaudet> badabing, that at least explains why its cycling, or offers a plausible cause
[04:00] <badabing> hrmm
[04:00] <badabing> i dont even know what that is
[04:00] <smaudet> the image file?
[04:00] <badabing> still trying to figure out why it wants to talk to sda
[04:00] <smaudet> that's your kernel
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> my computer was listed as a 32 bit but is actually 64 and runs a gig more ram than listed, it is a 5 year or more older laptop
[04:01] <IamTrying> http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/  - Is the website down? Where can i get the Ubuntu 13.10 / 64-bit ?
[04:01] <badabing> so what do we do smaudet
[04:02] <vanishing> wilee-nilee: lol..my old laptop has the same thing happening, until a cup of coffee joined its motherboard
[04:02] <iUnify> Hey Guys.... you know the Ubuntu Search...?  For example, when I click the "Applications" tab... it gives me results in 3 fields:  Recently Used, Installed and Available For Download... can I consolidate that to just Installed?  I dont want to see ALL the other results and have seperate catigories.... just keep it simple.
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, get the daily build, and #ubuntu+1 is the channel for it. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[04:02] <smaudet> badabing: well to be honest I'm kinda hacking a solution here so if anyone else who knows dpkg a bit better can speak up it might be the time to do so
[04:02] <smaudet> badabing: but the next thing I was going to try would be to go in and manually delete the dpkg files
[04:02] <badabing> at least i can use apt again :)
[04:02] <mwallacesd> Hi there, Is it a correct command: useradd -d /home/newuser -G  newusergroup -m -k /etc/skel          SKEL as (skeleton_dir) OR Can I user useradd -dGmk followed dir???
[04:03] <smaudet> badabing, might be time to ask the folks in #dpkg
[04:03] <mwallacesd> all parameters together?
[04:03] <smaudet> but if you don't want to do that you can try going into /var/lib/dpkg/info
[04:03] <smaudet> ls | grep linux-image
[04:03] <smaudet> and deleting the files there
[04:03] <badabing> nm
[04:03] <smaudet> but wait for me to say go ahead
[04:03] <badabing> its still asking for install -f
[04:04] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, it installed the updates, it seems tobe running
[04:04] <sepero> iUnify: I think you might need to look up how to adjust unity scopes or lenses
[04:04] <blarget_ubuntu> hmmm
[04:04] <iUnify> :D
[04:04] <badabing> Dlinux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.list
[04:04] <badabing> linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.md5sums
[04:04] <badabing> linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.postinst
[04:04] <badabing> linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.postrm
[04:04] <badabing> linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.preinst
[04:04] <FloodBot1> badabing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <badabing> linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.prerm
[04:04] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, i dont know what to do then.
[04:04] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, now if only I can remember my login account
[04:04] <vanishing> use pastebin
[04:04] <blarget_ubuntu> heh
[04:05] <vanishing> well..told him
[04:05] <blarget_ubuntu> Ima go install 13.04 anyways.
[04:05] <sepero> iUnify: you might be able to just remove the ones for Amazon and Recent
[04:05] <iUnify> sepero: howso?
[04:05] <iUnify> sepero: I'd like to clean it up a bunch really
[04:05] <sepero> iUnify: look up how to adjust unity scopes or lenses. i don't know how. sorry
[04:06] <iUnify> ok im on it now
[04:06] <iUnify> thanks
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> !addlens
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> !noads
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> i never can rember the factoid
[04:06] <smaudet> badabing: as a last resort we delete those files and keep on deleting files from dpkg until it forgets about its bad package
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> !lens
[04:06] <badabing> ok
[04:06] <badabing> lol
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> !adlens
[04:06] <smaudet> badabing: I want to make sure there's not a less hacky way of doing that
[04:06] <smaudet> so don't do that yet
[04:07] <IamTrying> wilee-nilee, Installed 13.10 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/saucy-desktop-amd64.iso  . But get black screen after grub screen.
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 gives you much better controll of the lenses
[04:07] <vanishing> IamTrying: try nomodeset
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, Go to #ubuntu+1 I can help you there.
[04:07] <sepero> iUnify: Dr_Willis is talking to you
[04:08] <iUnify> :) thx
[04:08] <IamTrying> Vanadis, then i do not get 720p resolution for hdmi and vga 1024x768 (same problem i had with 13.04 and kernel 3.11)
[04:08] <IamTrying> OK wilee-nilee
[04:08] <smaudet> so badabing if I could get another dpkg -l linux-image* so I can see the status of all packages so far
[04:09] <iUnify> Dr_Willis: Thanks... 13.10 eh.... ugh..... this stinks... my upgrades have been causing my monitor to turn on and off - can't go past 12.04 - new laptop and all....
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> i would think the older releases with a brand new hardware machine . would be more problematic
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 so far has been very problem free for me
[04:10] <smaudet> Dr_Willis: is 13.10 even out yet though?
[04:10] <iUnify> thats what I was saying
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> smaudet:  its in testing,. the vesion # is the date of release
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> 10th month 2013
[04:10] <smaudet> ...you don't recommend 'testing' products to the #ubuntu user channel
[04:10] <smaudet> only release stuff
[04:11] <smaudet> At least I wouldn't.
[04:11] <badabing> hrmmm
[04:11] <badabing> i opened software center
[04:11] <badabing> its trying to repair it says
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> did i  say to try it? i dont think so
[04:11] <badabing> :s
[04:11] <smaudet> badabing, if it can fix it great - I don't  have a lot of hope in it though.
[04:12] <smaudet> Generally the higher level tools depend on the lower level ones, and dpkg is as low level as you can go without manually deleting everything yourself
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> heh, everyone upgrade to 13.10 NOW
[04:12] <badabing> yup
[04:12] <badabing> its not going to work
[04:12] <badabing> stuck at the sda
[04:12] <badabing> im sure
[04:13] <smaudet> badabing, if I could get that pastebin of dpkg -l linux-image* again
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  and file bug reports ! ;)
[04:13] <smaudet> Oh I am sure there are PLENTY of bugs in it.
[04:13] <smaudet> No thank you sir. ;)
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> havent really stumbled upon any so far.. compared to some other releases/disasters
[04:14] <badabing> just says no packages found
[04:14] <smaudet> badabing, ls /boot, check there is still an linux-image in there
[04:15] <smaudet> that dpkg output is bogus, cd ~
[04:15] <smaudet> run it again
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> its bad karma to remove all your kernels. ;)
[04:15] <vanishing> ^
[04:15] <smaudet> Dr_Willis: quite
[04:15] <vanishing> I did that before..lol
[04:15] <smaudet> Its also bad karma to stop an update in the middle of kernel update
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> the old computer-janitor used to do it also
[04:15] <smaudet> what cause badabing's mess
[04:15] <badabing> i didnt
[04:15] <badabing> it just happened
[04:16] <smaudet> well anyways, incredibly unfortunate
[04:16] <badabing> hrmm
[04:16] <vanishing> dang..thats bad
[04:16] <badabing> just a bunch of init
[04:16] <badabing> system map
[04:16] <smaudet> badabing, can you at least pastebinit so I can see what is in there?
[04:16] <smaudet> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:16] <smaudet> if it lets you
[04:17] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/3BNdtjiR
[04:17] <badabing> haaaaaaaalp
[04:18] <smaudet> badabing, once we verify that you actually still have a kernel on your hard drive, I'm very tempted to tell you to remove your external storage and reboot the machine - that might fix the /dev/sda problem if it is somehow related.
[04:18] <badabing> ok
[04:18] <badabing> sure
[04:18] <smaudet> badabing, yeah you're fine
[04:18] <badabing> im losing steam quick
[04:18] <smaudet> you've got many kernels
[04:18] <badabing> thanks for all your help
[04:18] <IDontHaveANickna> I don't understand.
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> I live on the edge only one kernel set always
[04:19] <badabing> baller
[04:19] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, I keep max 3 around
[04:19] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, one old trusted, one current
[04:19] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, maybe one experimental
[04:20] <xmetal> i usually only have 2 kernels at any time
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> somthing old, somthing new, somthing...
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> they really should add in a  auto-clean out or at least ask..  old kernels fteature
[04:22] <smaudet> Yeah
[04:22] <Dr_Willis>  ive seen guys in here with like 12+ kernels
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> in a boot partition to boot
[04:23] <smaudet> keeping the boot partition small can help
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> i just dont see much point in a seperate /boot/ partion these days either
[04:23] <smaudet> its the people that don't have one that end up with tons of kernels installed
[04:23] <vanishing> Dr_Willis: I always keep an ubuntu kernel, and a custom built pf kernel
[04:23] <badabing> ok
[04:23] <badabing> brb
[04:23] <xmetal> hmm
[04:23] <vanishing> purge the rest
[04:23] <xmetal> i am not sure but i think bleachbit can do that
[04:23] <smaudet> If you limit yourself to 100-200 MB you can't install more than 3 or 4 anyways
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> but they  should be the ones that realize they need to clean out old kernels.. if they knew enoguh to make a seperate /boot/
[04:24] <xmetal> true @ Dr
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> i keep spare .iso files on my /boot/ ;) and make a grub entry to boot them. that way i can boot a rescue cd really fast ;P
[04:25] <smaudet> I think my e-mail just beeped at me O.o
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> I keep iso and supergrub on a usb
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> iso's
[04:25] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, well I've logged in
[04:26] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, any good free steam games I can test with?
[04:26] <smaudet> wow, Dota 2 is free to play huh
[04:26] <smaudet> and works on linux no less
[04:27] <grendal-prime> damn
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> i thought tf2 was now free also
[04:27] <grendal-prime> i handnt looked at jitsi in a long time
[04:27] <grendal-prime> that is straight up badd ass
[04:27] <smaudet> yeah it is, does it run on linux?
[04:27] <junktext> Yeah, TF2 runs on Linux.
[04:27] <grendal-prime> ya it does
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> many of the main valve games are on linux steam
[04:27] <grendal-prime> oh..two threads there
[04:28] <smaudet> well I'm not going to install right no
[04:28] <smaudet> now
[04:28] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, tf2
[04:28] <sysop3231> running ubuntu 12.10. apache2. vanilla install. created .htaccess file, put in ErrorDocument 400 /var/www/orchestra/error/error.html, and it still displays the default apache message. what am i missing? its not a complicated process, but apparently ubuntu.com, apache.org think that this should be all that i have to do.
[04:28] <smaudet> but blarget_ubuntu it looks it works just fine
[04:28] <blarget_ubuntu> man
[04:28] <blarget_ubuntu> why doesnt mine work
[04:28] <blarget_ubuntu> >:(
[04:28] <grendal-prime> someone doesn like you?
[04:28] <grendal-prime> i mean that is usally the reason for this sort of thing
[04:29] <grendal-prime> have you done things that would be considered..."bad" to alot of people.
[04:29] <OerHeks> hybrid or ancient GPU?
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> it's not the amount but the depth, lol
[04:29] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, know any SMALL games? i.e. smaller than a Gig?
[04:29] <blarget_ubuntu> well it keeps saying i dont have libc, so i looked it up and aparently i have bad drivers, but intel drivers dont exist for 12.04 anymore...
[04:29] <smaudet> ?
[04:29] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet ....
[04:29] <blarget_ubuntu> hmm
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> idk
[04:30] <grendal-prime> blarget_ubuntu, you running 12.10 and trying to do what.
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> 12.04
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> lts
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> trying to run steam
[04:30] <smaudet> trying to run steam
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> looked up error, got some crap about bad drivers
[04:30] <vubuntor003> Sorry,I downloaded Ubuntu 13.04 64 bit iso for 3 times,used unetbootin to make a bootable USB but I always get "can not mount /dev/loop0" error
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> looked up drivers, no install out dated
[04:30] <grendal-prime> oops sorry i read that wrong
[04:30] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, is your graphics card intel? when you say its not supported?
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> intel has that 01.org site for newer intel drivers. and theres some updated ppas also
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor003, You checked the sum of the iso?
[04:30] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, 'cause I have nvidia
[04:31] <jrib> sysop3231: how are you testing this?
[04:31] <vubuntor003> It's matched!
[04:31] <blarget_ubuntu> i have intel hd 3000
[04:31] <blarget_ubuntu> horrid low end laptop stuff
[04:31] <blarget_ubuntu> still runs tf2 at 60 fps tho
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor003, Try another usb loader there are many, you loading from what OS?
[04:31] <grendal-prime> who was it earlyer going on and on about teamviwer and jitsi?
[04:32] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, bad drivers are bad drivers, 13.04 isn't going to make a difference if the drivers aren't there
[04:32] <vanishing> blarget_ubuntu: its not that bad
[04:32] <vanishing> :D
[04:32] <sysop3231> jrib: fyi i added error docs for all errors. restart apache. chown everything correctly. then i just request non-existing page.
[04:32] <researcher> how do I know from command line what system version and 32 or 64 bit I have
[04:33] <jrib> sysop3231: so what docs are you reading that tell you this should work?
[04:33] <grendal-prime> basically I wanted to thank them
[04:33] <researcher> !lsb
[04:33] <vubuntor003> wilee-nilee: I'm using windows for now. It's bootable for Ubuntu 12.04 and older. I have tried another USB drive...
[04:33] <sysop3231> jrib: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/custom-error.html
[04:33] <grendal-prime> jitsi has come a long way
[04:33] <researcher> !release
[04:33] <smaudet> grendal-prime, it really has
[04:33] <smaudet> grendal-prime, better than skype now :)
[04:33] <jrib> sysop3231: seems like path should be relative to your document root?
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> researcher, uname -a
[04:34] <grendal-prime> im gonna set up xmmp server again
[04:34] <Flannel> sysop3231: Do you have AllowOverride properly set?
[04:34] <jrib> sysop3231: also did you make sure the vanilla config allows .htaccss to override this?
[04:34] <grendal-prime> so i can do the vid chat with all the kidlets and wive and whatnot
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor003, I would try another usb loader, pendrivelinux has some listed that run in windows
[04:34] <grendal-prime> the google interface for that is so damn clunky
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, you dont understand
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> there IS drivers for 13.04
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> there ISNT for 12.04
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> that is why ima update
[04:35] <grendal-prime> you got to do all this werid stuff to get the vidchat to work...but that jitsi  interface looks totally simple..
[04:35] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, is there no deb file?
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> for steam?
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> oh for the drivers
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> no
[04:35] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, speaking of which there is always a deb file where repositories are involved
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> there isnt
[04:35] <grendal-prime> smaudet,  have you used it with xmmp server ..like openfire yet?
[04:36] <smaudet> grendal-prime, can't say I have
[04:36] <grendal-prime> well im gonna look into it tomorro
[04:36] <sysop3231> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077685/
[04:36] <sysop3231> Flannel: yes
[04:36] <grendal-prime> i have a very nice virtual environment i just finished up so ill throw a server on there.see how it goes
[04:36] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/69695/driver-for-intel-hd-3000-core-i7-2630qm ?
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> intel has their video driver instgaller (not via the repos) at the 01.org site  that might let you update them
[04:37] <sysop3231> jrib: i have made no modifications to the config. apache/ubuntu did not mention to do this, and did not provide instructions on how to do so.
[04:37] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[04:37] <grendal-prime> by the way..i dont know if any of you have check this out yet but i have been using this prog called palavar.
[04:37] <Flannel> sysop3231: Is it allowed in your virtualhost?
[04:37] <jrib> sysop3231: the link you just gave us mentions both things... (allowoverride and the expected format for the path)
[04:37] <grendal-prime> it does speech recog and uses the google speech server farm ..it is pretty amazing
[04:37] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-linux-graphics-installer-version-1.0.2
[04:37] <lijnk-m> I have an issue installing on a machine. After finishing the minimal installation, it boots in and just gives me a blinking cursor. It also won't let me into the BIOS as the screen flashes too quick.
[04:37] <blarget_ubuntu> scroll down and look at obsolete drivers
[04:37] <Flannel> sysop3231: Because if it's set to none, then htaccess files are ignored completely.
[04:38] <researcher> how to know my system release verions if 64 or 32 bit using command line?
[04:38] <grendal-prime> kid in bay area wrote this wrapper prog to interact with an ubuntu desktop..you have desktop control mode and dictation mode..
[04:38] <grendal-prime> works great
[04:38] <lijnk-m> It does have uefi, but I shut the secureboot off. Just wondering how I can unbrick it
[04:38] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, yeah but the sources are all there
[04:38] <smaudet> you could always compile
[04:38] <blarget_ubuntu> i am new to ubuntu
[04:38] <blarget_ubuntu> :/
[04:39] <blarget_ubuntu> like brand new
[04:39] <jrib> sysop3231: is there a reason you want to use .htaccess instead of modifying the apache configuration?
[04:39] <blarget_ubuntu> just installed it
[04:39] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, anyways it looks like there are already drivers as of april of this year on the launchpad page
[04:39] <blarget_ubuntu> which link should i click
[04:39] <blarget_ubuntu> or what should i download
[04:39] <grendal-prime> blarget_ubuntu,  want stuff to play wth...
[04:39] <grendal-prime> getdeb
[04:39] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, precise-pangolin
[04:39] <grendal-prime> getdeb.net
[04:39] <sysop3231> jrib: yes. i want this to be a simple installation,.. a drop-in type of site if you will. but apparently, this is not going to happen.
[04:39] <researcher> how can I join Virtual box channel?
[04:40] <smaudet> and then amd64/i386 depending on if you have a 64 bit or 32 bit ubuntu
[04:40] <jrib> sysop3231: I don't understand
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> researcher, #vbox
[04:40] <researcher> #vbox
[04:40] <blarget_ubuntu> xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.17.0.orig.tar.gz?
[04:40] <researcher> wilee-nilee: thanks'
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> researcher, /j #vbox
[04:40] <grendal-prime> research...
[04:40] <Flannel> sysop3231: it will.  You just need to not disable AllowOverride.
[04:40] <grendal-prime> '/join #vbox'
[04:40] <grendal-prime> but without the  '
[04:40] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:2.17.0-1ubuntu4.4
[04:40] <smaudet> if you have 64 bit
[04:41] <blarget_ubuntu> i do
[04:41] <Flannel> sysop3231: Most "real" webservers allow it, because they need to give their users some control (htaccess), without giving them all control (modifying virtualhosts)
[04:41] <smaudet> you can check which version you have already using dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video
[04:41] <grendal-prime> researcher,  you should probably look at the "howto use irc"  via the google first though
[04:41] <smaudet> or synaptic if you have that
[04:41] <blarget_ubuntu> so just run this
[04:41] <blarget_ubuntu> and steam MIGHT work
[04:41] <sysop3231> Flannel: when did i disable "Allow Override"?
[04:42] <sysop3231> Flannel: a vanilla install does this automatically?
[04:42] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, download the deb file
[04:42] <smaudet> run it
[04:42] <Flannel> sysop3231: yes.  In your virtualhost definition.
[04:42] <smaudet> yeah
[04:42] <smaudet> it might work
[04:42] <smaudet> assuming you don't already have it installed
[04:42] <Flannel> sysop3231: check out the contents of /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[04:42] <Flannel> (or sites-enabled, if you prefer, same files)
[04:42] <smaudet> that's what the dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video* is for
[04:43] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, this looks like it wont work
[04:43] <blarget_ubuntu> it is erroring
[04:43] <vubuntor003> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads Do we need to install kernel,mesa,xorg,....?
[04:43] <blarget_ubuntu> it wont lat me copy aste the error
[04:43] <smaudet> mm yeah so it needs some other packages most likely
[04:43] <vubuntor003> or just the deb one?
[04:43] <blarget_ubuntu> explain what i need to do like i am 5
[04:44] <sysop3231> Flannel: thank you for your help, i feel i am getting somewhere. let me ask you this.
[04:44] <sysop3231> Flannel: On a 100% untouched, vanilla install, how do you set up a custom error page?
[04:44] <smaudet> A) find the driver package B) make sure you don't already have it C) install D) if it yells at you, read the error message and find that thing and install it E) When you get tired of doing that, just use apt-get
[04:45] <smaudet> Sorry I gotta go, best of luck
[04:45] <blarget_ubuntu> :/
[04:45] <blarget_ubuntu> ok
[04:45] <sysop3231> Flannel: because im getting 13 different answers. and none of them have worked, and i assume its because no one is taking me step by step from beginning to end.
[04:46] <Syme> Hey all. I was given some bad(malicious) advice, and my entire OS was deleted. I had Ubuntu before, fully replacing the Windows 8 that came with my Acer Aspire 1 laptop. I tried reinstalling Ubuntu from a flash drive, but the HDD security wouldn't let me boot after the restart at the end of installation. In grub, pretty much every command tells me Secure Boot won't allow it. Is there anything I can do? Ubuntu preview loads just fine, an
[04:46] <turbulence> Hello
[04:46] <turbulence> I had a quick question about versions
[04:47] <Syme> he preview, but I doubt it'll work.
[04:47] <turbulence> Syme what's that?
[04:47] <jrib> turbulence: ask your actual question
[04:47] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, before I go I will say I have libc >= 2.15 installed, maybe that is your problem. Dunno why they wouldn't install it for you.
[04:47] <smaudet> cheers
[04:47] <turbulence> Jrib my question is for you actually
[04:48] <turbulence> With all the semen you swallow at highway rest stops, do you get to love the flavor over time
[04:48] <Flannel> sysop3231: The easy way?  Modify the appropriate virtual hosts in sites-available as appropriate and add ErrorDocument directives.  If you want to do it with htaccess, then modify those same files to not disable AllowOverride, and then you can go the htaccess route.
[04:48] <junktext> So, I need help.  I tried using Steam in the LXDE environment and ever since I cannot use Steam at all.  Not even in Unity now.  I posted my details of my problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2171881&p=12782121
[04:48] <turbulence> Lol
[04:49] <blarget_ubuntu> damn it, all i want to do is play Steam in ubuntu, and its not making it easy.
[04:49] <blarget_ubuntu> :/
[04:49] <Syme> I posted a question in askubuntu, if anyone can help me there. I'm royally screwed.
[04:49] <jgk> hello
[04:49] <blarget_ubuntu> who else here has a intel hd 3000 and is running ubuntu 12.04 with steam
[04:50] <sysop3231> Flannel: the default AllowOverride directive in the vhost section is None. That is an 'out of the box' setting. What do i have to change that setting to, so that apache pays attention to my .htaccess file?
[04:50] <jrib> sysop3231: why don't you just set ErrorDocument in the vhost configuration?
[04:50] <Flannel> sysop3231: "All" would work.  For now, go with "all", you may wish to allow only a subset later (see http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#allowoverride )
[04:50] <Flannel> jrib: he already answered that, he won't always have access to it.
[04:51] <Syme> Is there any way to install Ubuntu on a machine with secure boot that has no OS on it? I really need help here.
[04:51] <smaudet> can someone else help blarget_ubuntu ? 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel'
[04:52] <blarget_ubuntu> unmet dependencies
[04:52] <blarget_ubuntu> do i install those?
[04:53] <blarget_ubuntu> ok installing the xserver one
[04:54] <Syme> Anyone?
[04:55] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: I still get "can not mount /dev/loop0" error
[04:55] <jrib> Flannel: I don't see where he said that; I was under the assumption he wanted to set this up on a "vanilla install".  If he needs to change AllowOverride anyway, then he may as well just set ErrorDocument in the vhost imho
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> i thought you had to disable secure boot Syme .
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Syme:  check askubuntu.com yet?
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, HOw much ram do you have?
[04:57] <vubuntor661> 4GB
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, YOu might try a mini ISO net load.
[04:57] <blarget_ubuntu> YES! Steam is doing something! thank you for everyone that helped!
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:58] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: but why 12.10,12.04 can boot smoothly?
[04:58] <sysop3231> Flannel: progress has been made. it's decided to print out the text "error.html" rather than display the html file.
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, Not sure to be honest, it is a strange problem, you have checked the sum you say.
[04:58] <Syme> Yes, I've asked a question on askubuntu but no answer there. Been searching the Internet for hours too. Nothing coming up. Figured I should try some live people.
[04:58] <vubuntor661> Yeah,every files in the Iso...
[04:59] <jrib> sysop3231: are you specifying paths relative to your document root? (i.e. probably shouldn't begin with "/var/www"?)
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, This is a standard computer not a uefi fast boot w8 install?
[04:59] <sysop3231> jrib: i have just tried every combination i can think of
[04:59] <vubuntor661> I don't have a good internet connection so net-install will take the whole day to install...and my computer if UEFI with secureboot
[05:00] <jrib> sysop3231: what is the one you are trying now exactly?
[05:00] <sysop3231> jrib: /var/www/html/error.html, /error.html, error.html
[05:00] <Cache_Money1> i'm trying to run Wireshark on my Ubuntu VM.  How do I find the router's IP, as well as my own?
[05:00] <sysop3231> jrib: just tried those 3
[05:00] <jrib> sysop3231: and what's your document root...?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, Ah, have you looked at the uefi wiki, and tried the options, I assume you probably have.
[05:00] <sysop3231> jrib: /var/www/html
[05:00] <jrib> sysop3231: why do you have "orchestra" in your pastebin?
[05:01] <sysop3231> jrib: for the sake of this question, i brought up a brand new VM that was untouched. So i couldnt be blamed for changing anything in the config. So i can say with authority, this is a BRAND NEW installation unsullied by me.
[05:01] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: I tried both "Fast-startup" on/off...Already tried turn off Secure options...(obviously what I tried worked very well with Ubuntu 12.04)
[05:02] <sysop3231> jrib: so at the end of the day once i figure this out, i can email apache and say that their documentation is useless.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, 12.04.3 has the raring kernel, and has 5 years support, that night be the easiest option.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> might*
[05:02] <jrib> sysop3231: if /var/www/html is your DocumentRoot and /var/www/html/error.html exists on your filesystem, then you would want to set "ErrorDocument 404 /error.html".  The apache documentation covers all these issues you are dealing with, but you have to read it thoroughly
[05:03] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: intel has stopped support  Intel Graphics driver for 12.04...
[05:03] <lijnk-m> Found my issue was I needed to hit F1 during an extremely small window to reach the bios menu page. Dumb system imo :/
[05:03] <Flannel> jrib, sysop3231: If you're 100% vanilla, then the DocumentRoot is /var/www, not /var/www/html
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, Ah, not really an area I can truly run through all possible answers is all.
[05:03] <sysop3231> Flannel: my mistake. that is correct.
[05:04] <sysop3231> Flannel: habit from my redhat days.
[05:04] <Syme> http://askubuntu.com/questions/342802/installing-ubuntu-on-a-secureboot-machine-with-no-existing-os
[05:04] <Flannel> sysop3231: so, is error.html in /var/www/html?
[05:04] <jrib> sysop3231: (and you need to specify /html/error.html as the path assuming it is)
[05:04] <sysop3231> Flannel: ill make a pastebin real quick so you can see where I am at.
[05:05] <Flannel> sysop3231: I'd prefer you just answer the question, but if it's in the pastebin, then so be it.
[05:06] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: USB filesystem has to be FAT32,right?
[05:06] <DUMBSTAR> so uhm, hi everyone, i have some questions regarding ubuntu
[05:06] <Syme> I really need to get an answer here. My boss is on me.
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, I use that always
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> Syme:  you just posted that to askubuntu.com ? you did search there first i hope. ;)
[05:07] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: by the way,when I got the error,it also said "Invalid argument"...
[05:09] <Syme> Yes, like I said, I searched there. That's why I'm asking now.
[05:09] <jrib> Syme: you've read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[05:09] <sysop3231> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077745/
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, I have to wonder since your download speed is so slow that even though the sum is correct there might still be problems, other than that I'm not more than a armchair user with to much time. So I know more that an average user in general, but I have not dealt with more than my own problems in detail.
[05:09] <pepper_chico> hi, I just installed ubuntu 13.04 on a macbook, it's kind of weird, my lock screen now gets an old style simple white lockscreen window, before in other installations I aways got a nice lock screen I think, any way to fix this?
[05:10] <sysop3231> Flannel: Oh, and before you ask. Yes, everything is chowned to www-data.www-data
[05:10] <Flannel> sysop3231: So, if you go http://yourserver/error.html, it shows up?
[05:11] <Syme> Yes, all the guides I've found tell me about disabling things through the windows 8 interface itself, or through its boot menu. I don't have windows 8 anymore, so I can't do that. I basically only have the grub interface to work with.
[05:11] <pepper_chico> any knowledge on that?
[05:11] <pepper_chico> this lock screen is ugly...
[05:14] <sysop3231> Flannel: correctly. in another VM ive brought up scientific linux 6, and modified the vhost to AllowOVerride all,. and the httaccess file is working there.
[05:14] <Mace268> Any ideas why my sound goes corrupt when I change the volume? I have to restart ALSA to fix it every time.
[05:14] <Flannel> sysop3231: and all of this is via http, and not https, right?
[05:14] <sysop3231> Flannel: not sure whats going on in the ubuntu vm.. ill have to use SL6 for this project.
[05:14] <DUMBSTAR> so whats the best way to go about installing ubuntu 12.something on my windows machine, can i just make a small ass partition and do some magic to get it to boot to the install of ubuntu without messing up my windows/work partition?
[05:14] <Flannel> sysop3231: Have at it then.
[05:15] <CarlFK> DUMBSTAR: yes.
[05:15] <sysop3231> Flannel: thanks for the help, im sure im missing something somehow.
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> DUMBSTAR, do the voodoo that you must do.
[05:15] <DUMBSTAR> thanks CarlFK
[05:15] <DUMBSTAR> lol
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  resize your partitions, install ubuntu to its own partion. use grub to select the os. is the normal way
[05:15] <DUMBSTAR> grub?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  yes. GRUB is the default bootloader ubuntu uses
[05:16] <DUMBSTAR> pretend i have no idea with linux, im a super windows god, but i have seen the future...windows 8 sucks.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  first step woule be to make backups of your system. just in case
[05:16] <DUMBSTAR> backups are for people that might do things wrong ;)
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  next step would be to make a bootable usb flash , or cd/dvd
[05:16]  * wilee-nilee looks for his slingshot
[05:16] <CarlFK> DUMBSTAR: the slight magic you are missing: windows lives in a partition, but part of the windows install is to install a boot loader onto a special part of your drive.. that will be replaced with grub - but it can load windows too, so you are fine
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  if you dont want to bother with backups.. then go for it.
[05:17] <jrib> Syme: that link says you should use your bios
[05:17] <tfowl> Is there a way to backup my USB flash drive  with Arch ArmV5 on it from my pogo plug that isn't terminal?  A simple UI way?  I am newer to Ubuntu/Arch and that part was a bit confusing.
[05:17] <DUMBSTAR> ok, so i have a usb, can i just make that bootable with the ubuntu installer/file i just downloaded?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> id be sure to hav ea windows rescue/restore/recovery dvd set made
[05:17] <DUMBSTAR> (to install to my hard drive)
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  you use a ubuntu iso file. and some of the many tools out there from the ubuntu site or the pendrivelinux site to make it into a bootable usb
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  if you are refering to  the 'wubi' tool. i sugest you dont use wubi.
[05:18] <DUMBSTAR> cool thanks everyone for the help so far, better that company support, its like the cummunity is...a group of humans
[05:18] <Syme> So I can access a BIOS when all my computer has is its boot loader?
[05:19] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis: oh,I got
[05:19] <vubuntor661> "mount /dev/loop0 failed"
[05:19] <jrib> Syme: can you?
[05:19] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis: what should I do now?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> vubuntor661:  i got no idea what you are doing.
[05:19] <aarcane> are ubuntu 12.04.3 and 13.04 Images hybrid ISOs yet?  Hybrid ISOs are the type of ISOs that can be written to a USB drive using dd instead of having to use an arbitrary third party utility like unetbootin or universal USB installer
[05:19] <jrib> Syme: I can do so on every computer I've tried.  But maybe new computers can't.  I don't know.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> aarcane:  yes they are
[05:20] <CarlFK> DUMBSTAR: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[05:20] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis: Download 13.04 iso, use pendrivelinux to make bootable usb,usb can boot but i got "mount /dev/loop0 fail: invalid argument"
[05:20]  * DUMBSTAR looks for a usb backup drive...not so confident with his non-existent linux skills
[05:20] <Syme> I don't know, computers surprise me. But that's my question. I'm trying to find out if there's a way to disable secure boot without any OS at all. Since mines been wild.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> vubuntor661:  could be the iso was bad. or the tool did somthing stupid.   or thres some weird bug with the tool used.
[05:21] <jrib> Syme: well can you get to your bios?
[05:21] <DUMBSTAR> thanks CarlFK
[05:21] <aarcane> Syme, there should be.  Press F1 or F2 or Delete to load the BIOS/UEFI Setup page, and go through the menues to find an option to disable Secure Boot.
[05:21] <nathan> Can I get some help with a wifi card issue?
[05:22] <vanishing> !ask | nathan
[05:23] <nathan> Well, no matter what solutions I try, I can't get my wifi working. apparently its a jockey problem with broadcom stuff. I'm not sure.
[05:23] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis:  double-check - ISO MD5,files MD5,everything is good
[05:23] <vubuntor661> (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: invalid argument. Can not mount /dev/loop0 (cdrom/casperfilesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs.
[05:23] <Syme> I'm not seeing any buttons that do anything. The boot manager has one option: "1.HDD (WDC WD3200BPVT-22JJ5T0)" I select that and it says HDD has been blocked my the current security policy.
[05:24] <vubuntor661> Syme: did you check your BIOS?
[05:24] <aarcane> vubuntor661, I've never been able to get casper to work.  Try to create a new USB drive without casper enabled.
[05:25] <vubuntor661> aarcane: how?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> nathan, You seen the broadcom link the bot gives?
[05:25] <Syme> So I don't know if I can access my bios, or even if I still have one.
[05:25] <DUMBSTAR> so in a completely off-set question, Who here likes Windows 8?
[05:25] <aarcane> Syme, Try turning the system off then pressing the keys I specified (or some other specified by your manufacturer) right after you turn your computer on.
[05:25] <nathan> no?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | nathan
[05:25] <vubuntor661> aarcane: I tried everything,I let unetbootin decide everything and then boot it...still get error
[05:26] <aarcane> vubuntor661, in Universal USB INstaller you set the size to 0MB.  I'm not sure about the native Linux utility.
[05:27] <serviscope_minor> Hi all. Question:  Just installed Ubuntu 12.04. The "synaptics" touch pad seems to be configured oddly. Looking at the output of synclient, TapButton1=1, TapButton2=3 TapButton3=0 which is more or less impossible to use. Easy enough to fix on every log in from a shell using synclient. Any idea how to make the change stick or remove the odd config? nothing in xorg.conf.d does such a remapping. Any idea where else might be s
[05:27] <serviscope_minor> ending settings to it?
[05:27] <Syme> Oh boy! I pressed F1 and 2 and del lightning fast and here's the BIOS after all. Hold on...
[05:27] <vubuntor661> aarcane: I don't set the size...I let it zero
[05:27] <serviscope_minor> to follow up, I quite enjoy having button2 map to button 2 and 3 to 3... :)
[05:28] <serviscope_minor> in the default config it is in fact impossible to middle-click paste.
[05:29] <DUMBSTAR> if your having odd issues when installing or running some operating systems, check in the BIOS that you have any "virtualization" turned off... 2 of the virtual options interfere with things, only turn on if your running a hyper-v or virtual machine server - ignore me if this doesnt apply to you, just sharing :P
[05:29] <Syme> I have a feeling it'll work now. Thanks a lot guy. Sorry if I sounded freaked out. I was. You guys must really care a lot about  open source to put up with people like me!
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> vubuntor661:  ive had issues with unetbootin in the past. i tend to just use dd or some other tools ti image the iso straight to the usb. or some of the tools at the pendrivelinux site that boot iso files via grub
[05:30] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis: I tried many boot loader for USB
[05:30] <Syme> Though now it's just showing the Linux copyright text and doing nothing. Which I remember from last time! So that's good. But I'm confused again.
[05:30] <vubuntor661> Universal of pendrivelinux,still the same
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> vubuntor661:  you did verify the iso file also?
[05:30] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis: yes...iso,and its content
[05:31] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis: 12.04.3 works very well on everything I tried but 13.04 didn't work
[05:32] <nathan> I don't know what to do with this downloaded driver. I have identified my card, and downloaded the suggested driver from the site. Now what?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> im testing out 13.10 ;)    i tend to stick with the cutting edge.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> vubuntor661:  ive even set up a hard drive (via a live cd) to boot a ISO file from the hd. to make installing faster - on a tricky machine.
[05:32] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis: 13.10 is still not official...
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> vubuntor661:  thats why  its being 'tested' ;)
[05:33] <vubuntor661> I will wait until it releases
[05:33] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis: well,I'm not a developer or tester...I really don't know what to do much
[05:35] <nathan> Any instructions?
[05:38] <ice9> how to capture video from webcam and store it in avi, 3gb or wmv formats
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> ice9:  cheese can do that
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> it will save to webm, which you can easially convert
[05:39] <ice9> Dr_Willis, how do I convert from webm to others, I tried but failed
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> ice9:  how have you tried? its rather easy to do with the video reencoder tools in the repos.
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> winff, ffmpeg. mencoder. handbreak
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> arista.   and perhas others i cant rember
[05:40] <ice9> Dr_Willis, I tried with ffmpeg, can you give me the correct parameter
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> theres is no one corect paramter.
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> look for ffmpeg examples and decide what you need
[05:40] <vubuntor661> how to boot minimalCD on UEFI computer?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> i tend to just use handbreak and convert things to mp4
[05:41] <nathan> I installed the broadcom drivers. Still no luck.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> or leave them as webm, whch often are smaller
[05:41] <Syme> I'm stuck on the SYSLINUX page, doesn't seem to want to initiate the setup. Any clues?
[05:45] <DUMBSTAR> alrighty, im gunna go reboot my PC and install Ubuntu, if i dont come back online within 2 hours, then it failed and im screaming at my self :P
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> you can get online from the live desktop as you install...
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> oh well
[05:47] <nathan> Any ideas on what I should do now? Broadcom drivers still a bust.
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> check the askubuntu.com site for guide? or the wiki?  i dont use broadcom.
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[05:53] <nathan> sadly the only instructions are just a bit too complicated for me to follow.
[05:53] <nathan> thanks for the links though.
[06:09] <anonymous87> hello
[06:09] <cfhowlett> anonymous87, greetings
[06:10] <anonymous87> thank you
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> moo
[06:10] <anonymous87> woof
[06:15] <mouse> *Poke*
[06:15] <user_me> My Cpu is overclocked in the Bios but in Ubuntu 13.04 it shows me running at stock is there a way to fix this?
[06:16] <mouse> user_me: I don't know but you could try cpu-governor
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> perhaps it thinks the new overclocked speed is stock. Or its throtteling it down
[06:17] <chocolatemousse> There we go
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> then again - overclocking tends to be best avoided ;)
[06:17] <sl33k_> How do I know at what slot how much RAM is allocated?
[06:17] <user_me> I was looking for it but the ondemand file is missing from my filesystem
[06:17] <chocolatemousse> I agree, OC'ing is dangerous when its handled all tidely for you, doubly so when you don't know much about the kernel
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> i definatly have seen issues with linux in the past running on overclocked hardware.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> Only thing i overclock these days - is my RaspberryPi ;)
[06:19] <user_me> My CPU reached 4.9ghz in windows without any problem so I figured 4.5ghz in linux would be fine
[06:19] <user_me> stock is 3.5ghz and it takes to long to render video at that speed
[06:19] <chocolatemousse> user_me: well yeah but I think they provide a lot of support for OC'ing these days in Mobos, and probably for Windows
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> so your system is only using 40% of your max cpu.. instead of like 43%  ;)
[06:20] <chocolatemousse> So that people who don't have a clue what they're doing don't break it.
[06:20] <chocolatemousse> I don't know what safety measure are in place for linux.
[06:20] <chocolatemousse> Probably none
[06:21] <user_me> I have a cooling system for my CPU and my temps right now are 80 degrees below the TJ MAX
[06:22] <chocolatemousse> user_me, I'd still look at cpu_govenor
[06:22] <user_me> where is it located?
[06:22] <chocolatemousse> its a package, look it up
[06:23] <user_me> oh ok thank you
[06:23] <chocolatemousse> you can install some Ghz desktop monitor stuff too
[06:23] <chocolatemousse> e.g. that one famous one everyone uses and I can't remember its name...
[06:24] <chocolatemousse> conky
[06:24] <chocolatemousse> you can get conky to run a Ghz monitor
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> thers indicator-applets to show cpu speed and stuff also i thats all you want
[06:24] <user_me> I have conky and psencor
[06:25] <user_me> *Psensor
[06:26] <anonymous87> how am i supposed to used tor
[06:27] <anonymous87> it says it could not launch tor browser
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> anonymous87:  read the tor web site/wiki/setup guide? once you get it going and the browser set to use it as a proxy it should be automatic
[06:27] <user_me> download tor from the website then extract the tor file then click the shell script and it will run
[06:29] <e-mc^2> !tor
[06:43] <rigo88> if i try to log in via putty to the ubuntu i type in to login my login name press enter i have to wait 5sec before i can go futurer.
[06:46] <jpds> rigo88: And you get the same thing with a normal ssh client on a normal Ubuntu machine?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> ssh localhost     :) to test
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> or from a differnt pc.
[06:47] <rigo88> the ssh localhost does not asks for a username. :) but i try the htpc either.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> its paseing the username
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> passinmg the username. You could set up putty to send the username also.
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> you could set up keys to not even need the password
[06:48] <rigo88> well. no. from the linux to antoher linux it happens immedietlay
[06:48] <rigo88> no no
[06:48] <rigo88> the same result.
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> sounds like a sshd setting to help throttle down DDos attacks
[06:49] <rigo88> 5sec. lets name the 2 pc-s: server and htpc. from htpc to server 5 sec. from server to htpc 0ms
[06:49] <rigo88> well i installed both machines ALMOST the same way..
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> compare the 2 sshd configs from each box
[06:50] <rigo88> do the installed applications have right to change my sshd config files!?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> i wouldent think so
[06:50] <rigo88> 'cause i never changed them.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> there could be some other firewall rules or somthing going on also.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> might be worth searching on askubuntu.co,
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> .com
[06:51] <rigo88> u mean the /etc/ssh/ssh_config file?
[06:51] <chocolatemousse> rigo88, yes
[06:51] <chocolatemousse> change the sshd config on your linux box
[06:52] <chocolatemousse> rigo88, it might be there to stop 10 year olds from downloading putty on their windows computers and running ssh ddos attacks
[06:52] <chocolatemousse> As Dr_Willis was implying
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> it would be the sshd config file
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> not the ssh config file - i think.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> could also be some sort of  hosts.allow/deny/firewall stuff going on.
[06:53] <chocolatemousse> or putty could just be slow
[06:53] <rigo88> yep cause the ssh config file is 99% commented out and what is not they are just the same.
[06:53] <chocolatemousse> rigo88, also keep in mind the windows box might be running a hefty firewall
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> is also possible its soe quirk with putty - if your tests show its only affecting putty
[06:54] <chocolatemousse> rigo88, have you tried turning off windows security?
[06:54] <rigo88> like we already figured out this 5sec wait time is present from a linux to another linux eiter. so not a putty problem.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> try a differnt client on the window box or just dont worry about it. ;)
[06:54] <chocolatemousse> 5 seconds is a lot of time for a computer
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> it sounes like an intentianal delay for anti-ddos stuff
[06:55] <chocolatemousse> I don't blame him for wanting to know where the bottleneck is
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> if he really wanted to login in a hurry.. set up ssh keys and dont use the name/password method
[06:56] <chocolatemousse> *shrug* I don't know how ssh functions but it sounds like a poor way of stopping an attack? if you fail the first time then you can't log in again for 5 seconds
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> now if that still had the delay.. that would be.. interesting
[06:56] <chocolatemousse> there are so many different causes of this problem rigo88 could end up in 20 different irc channels
[06:56] <rigo88> i dont want to try a different client.. the client i use is just fine for me. :)
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  if theres 10000 people attacking your pc.. a 5 sec delay on them can keep your server up instead of lagged to death
[06:56] <rigo88> i cat the sshd_config files and check any differences
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> i have also seen routers that have such throtteling in them
[06:57] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, sure, if it distinguishes people
[06:57] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, I meant it can only log *anyone* once every 5 seconds
[06:57] <chocolatemousse> but the first person to log in doesn't need to wait 5 seconds
[06:57] <chocolatemousse> first come, first served
[06:58] <chocolatemousse> So yeah, the 10k people can all try to DDOS, but they're going to be ddosing the network, not tying up the ssh
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> all the throtteling rules/features ive seen base it on ip i belive.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> sshd also has verbose logging you may want to turn on and monitor the logs
[06:59] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, well and that makes sense
[06:59] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, I'm just talking about when the timer is started
[07:00] <sl33k> How to know my motherboard model  from command line?
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> !info hwinfo
[07:00] <rigo88> no differences in the 2 files
[07:00] <chocolatemousse> Single IP address logs in, no one, including any other IP address, can log in for the next 5 secs
[07:01] <sl33k> Dr_Willis: hwinfo was directed at me?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> sl33k:  you asked how to identify hardware
[07:01] <sl33k> yes
[07:01] <chocolatemousse> Less suitable for large installations of course
[07:01] <sl33k> its a package i think
[07:01] <chocolatemousse> Fine for a couple people who want to keep script kiddies off of their back :)
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> hwinfo tool prints out a lot  of hardware info
[07:02] <sl33k> Dr_Willis: installing it thanks
[07:02] <chocolatemousse> assuming you were already logged in, still a DDOS of access in that case but again less of an issue for small installations
[07:05] <sl33k> Dr_Willis: which hardware class in that view? starting part got clipped out in the command line
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> sl33k:  no idea - ive not used that tool in ages.   pipe it to a file. or  hwinfo | more   or check the options it mayhav3 some show only... features
[07:08] <helmut_> hi
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> moo
[07:13] <automatik> can someone help me to format my usb thumbdrive. Gparted is not working.
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> whats not working about it?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> plug in the flash drive. if it auto mounts. use the cli to unmount it. then use gparted, or the cli to format it as you want
[07:14] <automatik> Dr_Willis: it doesn't automount
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> dont use the  file managers eject/remove/whatever ;)  that can power off the usb port
[07:14] <automatik> cli can't mount or dismount it
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  so you plug it in.. run 'dmesg' to verify its seen
[07:15] <automatik> Dr_Willis: hang on a second?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> if the thing has hardwre issues where the pc dosent see it - theres not going to be any way to partion or format it.
[07:15] <universe2014> automatik: perhaps it needs a new partition table on the usb
[07:16] <automatik> universe2014: yeah i tried that under gparted but it was a no go
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> gparted should still see if it that was the case. But frist step. plyg it in. determins its /dev/sdX identiy
[07:16] <lopez> howdy ho!
[07:17] <lopez> looging for a MILF
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> look in #foreveralone
[07:18] <automatik> http://paste.debian.net/36779/ <- result
[07:18] <lopez> why there?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  seems rather clear.. its an unpartioned disk. you need to partion it
[07:19] <lopez> it has to be some ubuntu using MILF
[07:19] <automatik> ok so i tried that under gparted
[07:19] <automatik> it used msdos
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> automatik:   yep. thats right.
[07:19] <automatik> then tried partition new then that is when the failure message appeared
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> what was the failure message?
[07:20] <lopez> also... I want to buy some weed
[07:20] <lopez> is it an appropriate channel?
[07:20] <automatik> i pasted it in pastebin ^previous linked message
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  that just said it needed a partion table.. which you said you tried to do. and it then said it needed to make a partition table..
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> endless cycle?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> try partioning it with fdisk perhaps?
[07:21] <automatik> stop for a second
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> did this flash drive used to have data on it?
[07:21] <automatik> hang on for a second,.. i'll explain everything in steps
[07:21] <lopez> Alina-malina
[07:22] <lopez> sounds polish
[07:22] <automatik> initially this drive was used as an installation disk
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  you mean you used dd to put an ISO file on it?
[07:22] <automatik> i used unetbootin or disk creator
[07:23] <automatik> anyway i tried to use the drive but then it wouldn't automount
[07:23] <automatik> i later tried using gparted
[07:23] <automatik> clicked on device
[07:23] <automatik> then create partition table
[07:24] <automatik> it behaved as if a partition was being created
[07:24] <automatik> after it was done i went under partition
[07:24] <automatik> then new
[07:24] <lopez> oh really?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> sounds to me like it had a hardware failure on the usb. if it was partioned/formated then suddendly became unpartioned.
[07:24] <automatik> and tried to add a new partition
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> you may want to try to zero out the flash with  the dd command, then try to repartition it.
[07:25] <automatik> i posted the failure message on pastebin (what you just read in the link)
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> somthing like 'sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=4M'
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> that faulure message says very little. it says its unpartioned and you ned to make a partion on it.. which you cant do.
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> you normally only need to make a partion table on a hard drive once.  when its totally new/untouched
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> the partition 'table' is  a small part of the drive where the system writes partition info.\
[07:27] <lopez> like a maiden's vagina
[07:27] <automatik> understood
[07:27] <automatik> ok so i entered the command you gave me in the cli, and it's still running
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> if you zero out the drive. it should write zeros to the whole drive.  and say how many gb of data it wrote. if it only writes a little bit then exists.. it may be the usb is failing
[07:28] <automatik> ok
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> or failed.. it should take some time to totally zero out the flash drive
[07:28] <automatik> ok
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> how big is the flash drive?
[07:28] <automatik> 4 G
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> that shouldent take to long then
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> dd  will fail/exit when it gets to the end of the drive and print out how much it wrote  - that shouldbe close to 4gb
[07:30] <automatik> ok - here is a message: dd: writing 'writing `/dev/sdc': No space left on device
[07:31] <automatik> gives me some numerical values about records in and out resulting in the amount of drive space on the drive
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> now its a totally zeroed drive. and you can try to repartion it
[07:31] <automatik> cli or gparted?
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> fdisk can handle it
[07:31] <Dacs> hello folks
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> or cfdisk, or parted. or gparted.
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> fdisk is what im used to. ;) but it depends on what you want the fs to be on it
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> sudo fdisk /dev/sdc     let it make a new partition table. make a primary partion, of the type you want. write changes. ;)
[07:33] <Dacs> i would like your assistance please, i am stuck! trying to install ubuntu on my newly built machine amd fx8350 8 core, 16 gb ram and 120 GB SSD. should i install 32bit or 64?
[07:33] <backlight> Hi - on an Acer Aspire 5740 with Ironlake graphics, how can the backlight function keys be fixed to work? This on 13.04. They worked fine in previous versions of Ubuntu, but now all they do is show a notification and do not do any actual changes. Using sudo intel_backlight 0-100 from the terminal does work, but is not acceptable
[07:33] <backlight> Dacs: 64 for certain
[07:34] <Dacs> backlight: hmmm i tried to install 13.4 and when it boots i get grub rescue
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> definatly 64bits
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[07:34] <Dacs> backlight: but i think i was using 32bit
[07:34] <geirha> Note that fdisk does not do formatting, only partitioning; unlike gparted which automatically formats the partitions you create
[07:35] <Dacs> i never owned 64bit before
[07:35] <trx_1> HI
[07:35] <trx_1> everyone
[07:35] <trx_1> ..
[07:36] <Dacs> also i get error: attempt to read or write outside of drive 'hd0'
[07:36] <automatik> Dr_Willis: what partition table would you use for just linux? any personal preference?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Dacs: That usually means that you have a buggy BIOS that can't properly handle large drives.
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  partition TABLE - you use the msdos one in most cases
[07:37] <Jordan_U> Dacs: You can work around that problem by creating a small separate /boot/ partition near the beginning of the drive.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  then you make partions of the type you want to format them to become. ie: a single parimary partition, of type vfat
[07:37] <Dacs> Jordan_U: msi 970a-g43
[07:38] <automatik> partition table yes,.. ok so at the prompt it's displaying "Command (m for help):" trying to enter 'o' to create a new emty Dos partition but it gives me the same prompt afterwards
[07:38] <automatik> *empty
[07:38] <usr13> automatik: n
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  yes.. thats now fdisk works
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> its a menubased tool.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> N)ew P)rimary Partition, give it the sizes (or hit enter for the whole disk) then set its T)ype as you want.
[07:39] <usr13> automatik: If you type m and hit enter, you get a list of commands.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> then W)rite changes to disk
[07:40] <sudipj> Can anyone help me understand the relation between mpegtsdemux and tsdemux ?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> nothing is done to the disk untillyou write the changes
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> p) print disk info to show its layout
[07:41] <automatik> yeah i did what you told me and it shows me the disk info
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> once it looks right. W)rite changes.. then you can format it as needed
[07:41] <automatik> m shows me a menu of the different formats fdisk can create
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> you set the partions type to match the filesystem you want to put on it  normally
[07:42] <automatik> ok
[07:42] <usr13> automatik: l  to list types
[07:43] <automatik> there are a lot from dos to unix and some others
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> type 'c' is common for usb flash for windows
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> or 'b'
[07:44] <automatik> ok i entered 'c'
[07:44] <usr13> automatik: That's fine
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> write changes. then you should be to format /dev/sdc1 or whatever it was
[07:44] <automatik> now i hit 'w'
[07:44] <usr13> automatik: p again will show you what you have so far.
[07:45] <usr13> automatik: Yea, when your done  w   to write changes and exit.
[07:45] <usr13> automatik: q  will back you out without writing changes.
[07:45] <automatik> http://paste.debian.net/36785/
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> eithr you dident write the changes. or you dident make a partition, or its failing to write the changes  sounds like
[07:47] <automatik> ok so i enterec c and w then the program closes and am now at the cli again
[07:47] <usr13> automatik: n
[07:47] <automatik> maybe the drive really is bad
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> yes.. you write changes.. and it exists
[07:48] <universe2014> not asuming that but if a stick is broken sometimes it can be repaired using mass production tools for the chip inside of it. but i think thats a bit ahead of the situation
[07:48] <Dr_Willis>  if you do a 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc' it should show a partion
[07:49] <automatik> http://paste.debian.net/36786/
[07:49] <usr13> automatik: You have yet to create a partition.
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> try fdisk again. just N)ew P)rimary   Hit enter a few times for start and end, and W)rite
[07:49] <automatik> ok
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> then check fdisk -l output
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> thats about as simple as it gets. ;)
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> it may want the #1 for the partion Number. I cant rember
[07:50] <Dacs> wow 17 hrs to download :S
[07:50] <tozen> universe2014: what about?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> actually - if its no  longer mentioning needing a partion table.. then gparted MAY work now on it also
[07:51] <universe2014> tozen: that was about automatik usb stick
[07:51] <automatik> ok so i hit p for primary and now it's asking me for a First cylinder default 0cyl):
[07:51] <usr13> automatik: n  for new partition.  p  for primary partition.  It will be partition number 1  make it for the whole disk, so just hit enter twice for beginning and end    t for type, choose   b
[07:51] <automatik> ok
[07:51] <usr13> automatik: hit enter
[07:52] <automatik> then hit w?
[07:52] <usr13> t
[07:52] <usr13> automatik: Set the type    t
[07:52] <automatik> it says Partition number 1-1:
[07:52] <Ba7a7chy> Hello, what is the best way to get in touch with the Canonical Sales Team ?
[07:52] <usr13> Yes 1
[07:53] <usr13> Partition number   1
[07:53] <auronandace> !canonical | Ba7a7chy
[07:53] <automatik> ok so i  hit enter then enter now i hit 1.... ok
[07:53] <usr13> enter
[07:53] <automatik> asking for Hex code
[07:53] <Ba7a7chy> !canonical
[07:53] <usr13> p   to look at what you've done.
[07:53] <automatik> L to list codes
[07:54] <usr13> automatik: l   to list    Or just choose b
[07:54] <automatik> ok b
[07:54] <usr13> p   to look at what you've done
[07:54] <Sicno> hi, I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04.3 64 bit on an HP all-in-one PC from a bootable usb drive but at some point while trying to launch a live session or install ubuntu I get "Kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt". I've tried both Lili and UNetbootin for creating the usb drive, same result.
[07:55] <automatik> http://paste.debian.net/36787/
[07:55] <usr13> automatik: Ok, there you go...
[07:56] <usr13> !md5sum | Sicno
[07:56] <automatik> ok so now i hit w
[07:56] <usr13> automatik: Yes
[07:56] <usr13> w
[07:57] <usr13> automatik: And to format,  mkfs.vfat
[07:57] <automatik> http://paste.debian.net/36788/
[07:57] <universe2014> Sicno:  did you try noapic acpi=off? and such nolapic boot options
[07:58] <usr13> automatik: What did it say when you hit  w   ?
[07:58] <automatik> ok so fdisk mkfs.vfat ?
[07:58] <usr13> automatik: Any error?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> err.. fdisk is a command.. mkfs.vfat is a command. ;)
[07:58] <automatik> oops ok
[07:58] <usr13> automatik: (It doesn't look like you created the partition yet.
[07:58] <Sicno> universe2014: no, how do I set those?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> fdisk mkfs.vfat is  not a command :)
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  try unplug/plugging back in the usb
[07:59] <universe2014> esc on grub menu
[07:59] <sl33k> what is my motherboard model from this `lshw` output? http://bpaste.net/show/g7KyY44Rd7fhbi42x41E/
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> ive seen cases wher eif you partion a disk - the system dosent see the changes untill its removes/put back
[07:59] <automatik> ok
[07:59] <usr13> Dr_Willis: fdisk will usually auto-sync
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> usr13:  yea it should.. ive also seen it not. but thats beenb age ago
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> sl33k:  looks like    047MWF       to me
[08:00] <usr13> Ok, I'm not to familiar with efi
[08:00] <universe2014> Sicno: escape on grup menu and edit kernel line  type the options in the line
[08:01] <universe2014> perhaps easyer if you find example on a site
[08:01] <usr13> automatik: Did you unplug and plug it back in again?
[08:01] <automatik> just a sec
[08:02] <automatik> ok done
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> check dmesg output. at the end.. it should mention the drive and info about it  automatik
[08:02] <automatik> ok so fdisk -l /dev/sdc ?
[08:02] <usr13> automatik: Yes
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> and check fdisk -l, to see
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> dmesg might mention some errors
[08:03] <usr13> ... if there are any
[08:03] <Sicno> universe2014: ok, I'll try
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> in the time ive been here helping get his 4gb flash working.. ive been paid enough from work to buy like 20 of them . ;P
[08:04] <usr13> automatik: If  fdisk -l /dev/sdc    does not show the partition, type   dmesg    and hit enter, see what it says near the end.
[08:04] <Reflex|UORage> hello, I'm trying to install some libraries and dependencies that are required for those libraries.. having some issues can someone tell me what exactly i'm doing wrong? http://bpaste.net/show/S3meXpmWqUlQuNJBy4v1/
[08:04] <usr13> Well........  it's a good learning experience.
[08:05] <automatik> ok hang on - (just wondering if there is a grep for displaying only issues concerning the sdc drive)
[08:05] <usr13> automatik: Still not showing the new partition?
[08:05] <automatik> http://paste.debian.net/36791/
[08:06] <universe2014> Reflex|UORage: i think you need libgmp development installed
[08:06] <automatik> usr13: doesn't seem like it
[08:06] <usr13> automatik: And   fdisk -l /dev/sdc   still does not show a partition?
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> !info lsh
[08:07] <automatik> just a second
[08:08] <usr13> !info lshw
[08:08] <automatik> http://paste.debian.net/36792/
[08:08] <automatik> it seems as if it isn't
[08:09] <usr13> automatik: When you hit  w   and then enter, did it give any sort of error when it exited?
[08:09] <automatik> no it just exited
[08:09] <usr13> automatik: What did it say?
[08:10] <automatik> just a second please
[08:10] <usr13> automatik: I don't know then.  I'm stumped.
[08:10] <Reflex|UORage> universe: configure: error:
[08:10] <Reflex|UORage>   ***
[08:10] <Reflex|UORage>   *** Libnettle 2.7 was not found. Note that you must compile nettle with gmp support.
[08:10] <Reflex|UORage> its not even seeing my current gmp.h is it ?
[08:11] <Reflex|UORage> All of this just to install a tcl script on an eggdrop... ;p
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> !find gmp.h
[08:12] <Reflex|UORage> Dr_Willis it's in my bpaste link.
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> but if its in the repos.. why not use that one
[08:12] <universe2014> Reflex|UORage: you need to try find all it says not found and install those untill it works .
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> but it seems a rather generic file ;)
[08:12] <Reflex|UORage> Dr_willis ehm?
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> gmp.h seems to be in the regular -dev packages. so whats so speical about yours?
[08:13] <automatik> there was no error message it just said not to forget to update /etc/fstab if necessary
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> !info gmp
[08:14] <usr13> automatik: can you copy and paste it?
[08:14] <usr13> automatik: pastebin
[08:15] <Reflex|UORage> Dr_Willis: If that was the case then it would have found it by looking in default locations.
[08:15] <Reflex|UORage> i dont have root to the box right now either.
[08:16] <automatik> http://paste.debian.net/36796/ <- result
[08:18] <usr13> automatik: Why were you hitting   o   ?
[08:18] <usr13> automatik:  "o   create a new empty DOS partition table"
[08:19] <automatik> yes,.. this was before i got the info from you
[08:19] <usr13> automatik: You were wiping out what you dis with the   o   command.
[08:19] <automatik> oh ok
[08:19] <automatik> i didn't know
[08:19] <usr13> automatik:  "o   create a new *empty* DOS partition table"
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  you wtite a table ONCE when the disk is unallocaged/brand new. then you shouldent need to . unles syou zero it out like we did the first time
[08:20] <usr13> automatik: n  t  b  w
[08:20] <automatik> ok like i said i didn't know
[08:20] <usr13> automatik: Well try again.
[08:21] <automatik> ok sorry
[08:24] <sl33k> Dr_Willis: using that I searched google but it does not show any relevant pages for Intel website.
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> sl33k:  dident the info say it was a dell machine?
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> or am i missrembering
[08:25] <sl33k> Dr_Willis: yes it says.
[08:26] <sl33k> 047MWF search does not give anything pertinent. what am i missing?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> sl33k:  dell may make their own custome motheboards (or have them made) what are you trying to determine exactly?
[08:27] <sl33k> Dr_Willis: The maximum RAM it supports and the combination of sizes (1 2GB, 1 1GB etc)
[08:27] <liquid-silence> hi all
[08:27] <liquid-silence> is there a way to setup a l2tp connection without ipsec
[08:27] <liquid-silence> with a static ip?
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> sl33k:  from what i recall sites like the crucial ram site can let you enter the   company/make/model and tell you
[08:28] <liquid-silence> I cannot find a decent tool
[08:28] <sl33k> Dr_Willis: will check. much obliged.
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> sl33k:  i was looking at ssd's and ram for my netbook earlier. ;)
[08:28] <sl33k> :)
[08:29] <usr13> liquid-silence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layer_2_Tunneling_Protocol
[08:29] <liquid-silence> usr13 I know what it is
[08:29] <liquid-silence> lol
[08:29] <liquid-silence> was just hoping there is a easy way for me to do it
[08:30] <usr13> liquid-silence: "The process of setting up an L2TP/IPsec VPN is as follows:"  .....
[08:30] <Sicno> universe2014: acpi=off did the trick, thatnks a lot!  :D
[08:31] <liquid-silence> usr13 I just want to get the client to connect  to the server
[08:31] <liquid-silence> I have the server already
[08:31] <liquid-silence> or well the ISP has setup the server
[08:32] <MonkeyDust> liquid-silence  is this useful http://www.bestvpnservice.com/blog/how-to-use-l2tp-without-ipsec/
[08:33] <usr13> automatik:  Did you get it?
[08:33] <MonkeyDust> liquid-silence  i was too fast, it's for windows
[08:33] <liquid-silence> MonkeyDust also for windows :P
[08:35] <MonkeyDust> liquid-silence  or this http://www.xinotes.org/notes/note/1511/
[08:35] <liquid-silence> MonkeyDust is that not more for a server?
[08:35] <liquid-silence> and not a client?
[08:36] <liquid-silence> I am trying to connect to a client
[08:36] <MonkeyDust> liquid-silence  you're more familiar with it, they are just hints, i hope they are useful
[08:37] <automatik> yeah i retried and did everything you told me to do
[08:37] <automatik> should i now try mkfs.vfat?
[08:38] <usr13> automatik: Yes
[08:38] <usr13> ... to format it.
[08:38] <liquid-silence> MonkeyDust ye
[08:38] <usr13> (the new partition), (It's not much good until you format it)
[08:39] <automatik> ok i'm also ignorant to mkfs.vfat
[08:40] <|Sicno|> my internet crashed  :\
[08:40] <usr13> automatik: mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1   #Where sdc1 is the actual partition you want to format, (don't do the *wrong* one).
[08:40] <usr13> automatik: fdisk -l     #To verify
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> and sudo blkid to verify the verification
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo fdisk -l' 'sudo blkid'
[08:42] <usr13> automatik: Yea, you have to use sudo
[08:43] <automatik> under sudo blkid; /dev/sdc doesn't even show up
[08:43] <justaguy> i like ubuntu, it just saves money when you go to the pc store, they instantly like you because you use linux and repair 1 key on your keyboard for free
[08:43] <justaguy> ubuntu, you have karma
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> repair a keyboard? ;)
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> i gave away about 20 keyboards the other day
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  does it mention sdc1 ?
[08:44] <automatik> no
[08:44] <automatik> only what's on the local drive
[08:44] <usr13> automatik: Really?  You don't see sdc1
[08:44] <justaguy> i could do that too, i have lots of pc waste here, i probably have like 10 ps2 keyboards
[08:45] <automatik> correct
[08:45] <usr13> automatik: At any rate, did you format it?
[08:45] <automatik> under sudo blkid
[08:45] <usr13> automatik: pastebinit
[08:45] <automatik> ok
[08:47] <automatik> http://paste.debian.net/36802/
[08:48] <jdoles> How can I get Firefox to work? It says that the profile is not accessible or cannot be loaded. I already mv'ed firefox to firefoxold, but that didn't even help.
[08:48] <usr13> automatik: Have you created a partition on sdc yet?
[08:48] <usr13> automatik: sudo fdisk -l  |pastebinit
[08:51] <automatik> http://paste.debian.net/36803/
[08:52] <usr13> automatik: You still don't have a partition on /dev/sdc
[08:52] <usr13> What happened?
[08:52] <automatik> i don't know
[08:53] <automatik> under fdisk i did what you said
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> pastebin the whole fdisk session perhaps?
[08:53] <automatik> no
[08:53] <usr13> Dr_Willis: He did,  http://paste.debian.net/36802/
[08:54] <usr13> Dr_Willis: Only thing is, he did not  do  p   to show the partition he created, he just did    w   (without looking at it), so it doesn't show a partition table for us to see.
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> that is NOT correct
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> you  use /dev/sdc1
[08:55] <usr13> Dr_Willis: But he had no choice, because he did not have sdc1  (I suppose).
[08:55] <Dacs> seriously this suck :S so i have installed 13.4 64bit and reboot i get purple screen
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> if he formated sdc. then that would mess up the partion table again I belive
[08:55] <usr13> !nomodeset | Dacs
[08:56] <usr13> Dr_Willis: I don't think it would let him.  Well I don't know for sure.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> but it does look like itd not taking the changes
[08:56] <Dacs> wow, just now  i got login screen
[08:56] <Dacs> is this normal
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> you boot and get a login screen... thats normal..
[08:56] <automatik> should i try it again with p?
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> unless you want to be a bit mroe detailed
[08:57] <usr13> Dr_Willis: Oh, I see, he did  "sudo mkfs.vfat -I /dev/sdc"   and wiped it.  haha
[08:57] <usr13> automatik: Do you see what you did?
[08:57] <automatik> oh man
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> usr13:  bingo
[08:57] <automatik> ok what did i do wrong?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> you formated the drive. not the partition
[08:58] <Dacs> Dr_Willis: no , okay so i booted after installing 13.4 64bit , i got a purple screen for ~ 4min then i got the login screen
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> that erased the partion table
[08:58] <automatik> *sigh* ok
[08:58] <usr13> automatik: You were supposed to use command   sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1     (But you did sda and forced it.)
[08:58] <Dacs> oh lord and on my unity nothing is clickable
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  actually gparted MAY work now on the drive
[08:59] <usr13> automatik: You format a *partition*  (not a drive).
[08:59] <automatik> yeah i get it now
[09:00] <Dacs> Dr_Willis: any suggestions on what this could be
[09:00] <dark_cyber> heloo all
[09:00] <dark_cyber> i have problem
[09:01] <usr13> automatik has thoughraly learned the process, (he has made almost every mistake he could). *almost* ;)
[09:01] <automatik> just wait I'll find something new
[09:01] <usr13> Danger Will Robinson, automatik at the keyboard.
[09:01] <dark_cyber> i can not chmod my file
[09:02] <dark_cyber> how to solve it ?
[09:02] <usr13> dark_cyber: Your file?
[09:02] <Etna> anyone read this yet? Intel removes Xmir support from its driver: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ1NjY
[09:02] <usr13> dark_cyber: ls -l  your-file  #Who's is it really?
[09:02] <Etna> what will this mean for Mir?
[09:03] <usr13> dark_cyber: (try sudo)
[09:03] <Etna> is Canonical going to have to patch their own drivers and toolkits?
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> Dacs:  try the 'noquite nofb nosplash text' options and watch it boot and see if somthing takes a long time
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> Etna:  of course they may add it back in  a month from now.. who can tell with those companies.
[09:04] <dark_cyber> $ ls -l index.html
[09:04] <dark_cyber> -rw-r--r-- 1 trieunhat1 trieunhat1 413 May 15  2011 index.html
[09:05] <dark_cyber> i try to create php shell bro..
[09:05] <dark_cyber> so the function is shell_exec
[09:05] <dark_cyber> $ whoami
[09:05] <dark_cyber> apache
[09:05] <dark_cyber> what is Linux 9247.vn 2.6.18-194.el5 #1 SMP Fri Apr 2 14:58:35 EDT 2010 i686
[09:05] <dark_cyber> is that ubuntu ?
[09:05] <usr13> dark_cyber: chmod 644 index.html
[09:06] <Dacs> Dr_Willis: how do i use this option?
[09:06] <kimda> hi. I am experiencing intermitted network connection issues. Most of the time I can connect really fast via ssh. And sometimes it will take a couple of seconds to get the login prompt. Any ideas what could be causing this?
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> Dacs:  same as you would use the nomodeset option, onlly replace 'quiet splash' with the options above
[09:07] <dark_cyber> nothing happen usr13
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[09:07] <phil4444> how can i enable boot logging?
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> or try the text option (this will let you see all the logging)
[09:07] <dark_cyber> i try whoami and get apache... this is php shell
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> !text
[09:07] <Etna> Dr_Willis: Hard to think of Xmir support from Intel for the forseeable future given the absolute tone from upper management.
[09:07] <dark_cyber> no local linux
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Etna:  ive learned that the big companies are playing their own games.. and not to worry about  it. ;)
[09:08] <imark> dark_cyber: if you're logged in as user apache but your index.html files is owned by trieunhat1 you can't chmod it without sudo, right??
[09:09] <Etna> it matters because it means i can no longer simply download and compile upstream Mesa and X drivers on Ubuntu
[09:09] <dark_cyber> yeah yeah i know... because different user right ?
[09:09] <imark> yes
[09:09] <usr13> dark_cyber: Right
[09:10] <usr13> why are you apache?   Did you su - apache  ?
[09:10] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm trying to set up PGP, but when I receive an encrypted/signed email, I get this error: Valid signature, but cannot verify sender. I've already added the senders public key to seahorse and indicated I trust it
[09:10] <usr13> dark_cyber: And what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:10] <usr13> dark_cyber: Where are you and what are you trying to do?  ;)
[09:11] <usr13> dark_cyber: (We might be able to give you some specific advise if you give us some details.)
[09:12] <automatik> is this correct ? w has not been entered http://paste.debian.net/36807/
[09:12] <usr13> automatik: correct
[09:13] <automatik> ok so now i can hit w?
[09:13] <usr13> automatik: Now this time when you format use /dev/sdc1  (not /dev/sdc).
[09:13] <automatik> lol ok
[09:13] <usr13> automatik: w   yes   w
[09:14] <automatik> ok so sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1 ?
[09:14] <cactuswizard> hey does someone know why Ubuntu found complete lang packs when installing to this computer (Acer Aspire 4830T) but when installing to my other laptop (IBM Thinkpad T43) it didn't find them
[09:14] <usr13> automatik:  correct
[09:15] <dark_cyber> if i login as apache without password , so apache dont have password ?
[09:16] <Dacs> Dr_Willis: same thing :S I have also added the nomodeset and still no luck, i still get the purple screen and it will be there for about ~4 -6 min then i get a login screen and after i put my password and it loads into unity then nothing else is clickable
[09:16] <usr13> dark_cyber: Are you setting up a webserver for first time?
[09:16] <usr13> dark_cyber: ... or a new one?
[09:16] <dark_cyber> first time
[09:16] <usr13> dark_cyber: At any rate, let me give you some advise, (here is how I do it):
[09:17] <usr13> dark_cyber: Just put your files in /home/  and use a symlink.
[09:17] <gvo> dark_cyber: what version of Ubuntu?
[09:17] <dark_cyber> what is symlink
[09:17] <dark_cyber> ?
[09:17] <dark_cyber> i dont know the version but when i use uname -a , i get
[09:18] <dark_cyber> Linux 9247.vn 2.6.18-194.el5 #1 SMP Fri Apr 2 14:58:35 EDT 2010 i686
[09:18] <MonkeyDust> dark_cyber  a copy of an existing file, if you change the copy, the actual file is changed too
[09:18] <gvo> dark_cyber: cat /etc/issue
[09:18] <usr13> mkdir /home/trieunhart1/public_html ;  ln -s /home/trieunhart1/public_html  /var/www/site1
[09:18] <usr13> dark_cyber: Or where ever DocumentRoot is.
[09:18] <Synth_> help i cant install gfx drivers heres the error
[09:18] <Synth_> http://shrib.com/DX1tZwgN
[09:18] <tozen> dark_cyber: lsb_release -a?
[09:18] <phil4444> hi there, i can't get upstart to log the boot process, tried to boot into rescue, setting initctl log-priority debug, and reboot
[09:19] <phil4444> but i cant find new logs
[09:19] <usr13> dark_cyber: And put all your files just in public_html/
[09:19] <Synth_> btw I am running 12.04
[09:19] <usr13> dark_cyber: (the hame is not important, you can use www or html or what ever you like)
[09:20] <Synth_> help please http://shrib.com/DX1tZwgN
[09:20] <gvo> dark_cyber: lsb_release -a
[09:20] <usr13> dark_cyber: grep DocumentRoot /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[09:20] <Synth_> yuhu
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> Synth_  did you have a question?
[09:21] <Synth_> yes i cant install nvidia drivers it fails and gives me this http://shrib.com/DX1tZwgN
[09:21] <dark_cyber> yeah centos
[09:21] <dark_cyber> LSB Version:	:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:graphics-3.1-ia32:graphics-3.1-noarch
[09:21] <dark_cyber> Distributor ID:	CentOS
[09:21] <dark_cyber> Description:	CentOS release 5.5 (Final)
[09:21] <dark_cyber> Release:	5.5
[09:21] <dark_cyber> Codename:	Final
[09:21] <FloodBot1> dark_cyber: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:21] <grey_matter> how do i register a nickname?
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> !register
[09:22] <grey_matter> thanks
[09:22] <gvo> I think dark_cyber isn't running ubuntu.
[09:23] <usr13> dark_cyber: Are you on the wong channel?
[09:23] <liquid-silence> anyone know what this means?
[09:23] <liquid-silence>  control_finish: Connection closed to 196.30.121.50, port 1701 (tunnel receive scccn authenticate failed challenge), Local: 57815, Remote: 15689
[09:23] <dark_cyber> where is centos channel ?
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> !alis | dark_cyber
[09:24] <usr13> dark_cyber: See my PM
[09:25] <gvo> dark_cyber: try #centos
[09:25] <usr13> #centos
[09:25] <gvo> Also ##linux
[09:27] <grey_matter> So i have backtrack and i joined the irc channel for backtrack, and they say i should move to Kali. Is it any good?
[09:27] <grey_matter> what does kali have that bt doesn't
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> grey_matter:  kali is not ubuntu. or ubuntu related..  backtrack became kali
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> so go ask in the kali channel
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> or check their web site
[09:27] <grey_matter> i know it's offtopic sorry
[09:38] <automatik> what should i do after sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1 ?
[09:38] <gvo> automatik: Mount it, use it.
[09:39] <automatik> ok
[09:39] <gvo> Or boot windows and use it.
[09:43] <dark_cyber> is it possible to set perl on and off ? like xampp in windows..
[09:45] <gvo> dark_cyber: In Centos?
[09:47] <dark_cyber> yeah ? and what about in ubuntu ?
[09:53] <zorin> hi
[09:56] <gvo> dark_cyber: 1. this is a Ubuntu support channel, 2. You are not running Ubuntu.
[09:57] <gvo> 3.  We're not here to answer "what if" questions that don't deal with Ubuntu.
[09:58] <gvo> dark_cyber: If you want general linux questions answered, try ##linux
[10:09] <Fire> Anyone alive in here?
[10:10] <KeyboardNotFound> yes :P
[10:10] <padhu> Fire: what's yourneed?
[10:10] <Fire> I got a small issue with bind9 that i cant figure out.
[10:11] <liquid-silence> lol
[10:11] <liquid-silence> I have a massive issue with l2tp
[10:11] <Fire> I setup bind9 when i use Dig whatever.com it resolves but after pointing nameservers it doesnt resolve
[10:12] <padhu> Fire: say more about about config
[10:13] <Fire> padhu see pm
[10:15] <Fire> named.conf.local
[10:15] <Fire> # This is the zone definition. replace example.com with your domain name
[10:15] <Fire> zone "moddl.com" {
[10:15] <Fire>         type master;
[10:15] <Fire>         file "/etc/bind/zones/moddl.com.db";
[10:15] <Fire>         };
[10:15] <Fire> # This is the zone definition for reverse DNS. replacw with your network address in reverse notation - e.g my network address is 192.168.0
[10:15] <FloodBot1> Fire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:15] <Fire> zone "172.106.121.91.in-addr.arpa" {
[10:15] <Fire>      type master;
[10:15] <gordonjcp> Fire: use a pastebin
[10:15] <Fire> I will
[10:18] <Dacs> GeForce 8400 GS Rev2 this is my video card and i am still getting the purple screen! :S which card would you guys recommend for me that will be compatible and work in ubuntu
[10:18] <conch> hello
[10:19] <conch> i have a small problem
[10:19] <Fire> http://pastebin.com/ehWRCVTA
[10:19] <Fire> these is my configs
[10:19] <conch> after i made some system settings changes i always have to double click when i want to reopen a program
[10:19] <conch> how do i change that?
[10:20] <conch> *in the taskbar
[10:21] <conch> that's really annoying
[10:23] <conch> i can't find this option to change. please someone help
[10:24] <Burrnn> Ugh dc; so padhu any ideas
[10:27] <padhu> Burrnn: are you pasted?
[10:27] <Fire> I linked you a pastebin
[10:28] <padhu> Fire: link not working
[10:28] <Fire> http://pastebin.com/ehWRCVTA
[10:28] <Fire> works for me
[10:30] <CasW> Hey guys, my unity won't load, even when I replace .config or log in as guest
[10:31] <padhu> Fire: results, This paste has been removed!
[10:32] <Fire> http://pastebin.com/aese3Z70
[10:32] <Fire> try that
[10:37] <padhu> Fire: I saw that
[10:40] <funky1> hi ppl, i have some bluetooth issue, when i try to connect from cli which is what i want, when using the gui it works, but i need the cli to work, could someone have look and point me in the right direction please http://pastebin.com/wF9Wzs4F
[10:42] <rebar> somebody know how to copy a file from exi datastore to ubuntu server?
[10:43] <rebar> esxI*
[10:44] <Fire> @padhu what did you mean then
[10:44] <padhu> Fire: I can't, may try in #ubuntu-server
[10:45] <Fire> Ahh
[10:47] <liquid-silence> http://serverfault.com/questions/537266/l2tp-vpn-client-setup
[10:47] <liquid-silence> anyone care to add to this?
[10:53] <mr_Block> hi
[10:54] <mr_Block> is this the proper channel to get some help?
[10:54] <mr_Block> cd
[10:54] <blazemore> !ask | mr_Block
[10:55] <funky1> hi ppl, i have some bluetooth issue, when i try to connect from cli which is what i want, when using the gui it works, but i need the cli to work, could someone have look and point me in the right direction please http://pastebin.com/wF9Wzs4F
[10:55] <mr_Block> i installed propriearity drivers on ubuntu 13.4, now i miss my taskbar, and cant change to another videocard driver
[10:55] <mr_Block> from ati*
[10:55] <The_Chronicler> hey, i have a question about the /media folder and the mounted folders within
[10:56] <blazemore> !ask
[10:56] <mr_Block> !patience
[10:56] <Fire> moddl.com.      IN      SOA     ns1.moddl.com. admin.moddl.com. (
[10:56] <blazemore> mr_Block: How did you install the driver?
[10:56] <The_Chronicler> i've got a whole lot of dead links to mounted external HDDs and the like, but i'm not sure how to remove them. can anyone advise?
[10:56] <mr_Block> downloaded it, extracted the .run file, and ran it in the console
[10:57] <m4tux> Oi
[10:57] <m4tux> anyone here can help ?
[10:57] <te5ita> !ask
[10:58] <mr_Block> so now im stuck with consoles, and running stuff through them
[10:58] <blazemore> mr_Block: Follow the instructions here to remove the driver http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[10:58] <blazemore> mr_Block: Then reboot, and follow the instructions on that page to install the driver correctly
[10:59] <mr_Block> well, the first command already gives an error
[10:59] <te5ita> Anybody got an idea as to why I can't compile CWiiD on my Ubuntu 12.04 machine? I have all the dependencies and everything, but i had to resort to installing the binaries because it just wouldn't compile
[11:00] <mr_Block> cant open that directory
[11:00] <m4tux> my problem is a gnome icon
[11:00] <m4tux> i want to suppress some icon
[11:00] <m4tux> but i can't find how
[11:00] <m4tux> anyone can help .?
[11:01] <blazemore> m4tux: I'm not sure what you mean by "surpress some icon" could you rephrase?
[11:01] <m4tux> wait i will take a screenshot for you
[11:04] <cactuswizard> hey btw has facebook blocked Empathy?
[11:05] <m4tux> blazemore, are you here ?
[11:05] <m4tux> http://twitpic.com/dcj092 that's a screenshot
[11:06] <m4tux> i wanna delete some icon
[11:06] <dreamon> Is there a way to be connected by Lan and Wlan at the same time on same network. Only if one is disconnted the other takes the function.
[11:06] <m4tux> blazemore,  http://twitpic.com/dcj092 that's a screenshot and i wanna delete some icon
[11:08] <mr_Block> mylink http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[11:08] <mr_Block> maintenance
[11:08] <mr_Block> CMON
[11:09] <te5ita> dreamon, I think you could probably do that with Ubuntu's default Network Manager. Which do you want to have priority, WLAN or LAN?
[11:10] <mr_Block> how can i install another DE after removing unity through console
[11:10] <dreamon> te5ita, LAN would be faster. I use most time wlan but if lan is present it should get priority
[11:10] <m4tux> http://twitpic.com/dcj092 , i want to delete some icons in the desktop menu , any idea of how i can do it ?
[11:11] <dreamon> te5ita, I couldnt find this in "nm". Using Ubuntu 12.04
[11:12] <te5ita> Well you might be able to just set up both eth0 and your wireless in the applet's GUI
[11:13] <blazemore> m4tux: Can't you right click on them and do remove?
[11:13] <te5ita> And then when your Ethernet or whatever it's connected, it should automatically override the wireless connection
[11:13] <dreamon> te5ita, should the use same IPs?
[11:13] <te5ita> I don't think that matters tbh
[11:13] <m4tux> when i right click on them i got 2 options
[11:13] <mr_Block> hm, i think i will try rm -rf /*
[11:14] <m4tux> when i right click on them i got 2 options launch & options
[11:14] <m4tux> blazemore, can't find a delete option
[11:14] <te5ita> Bear in mind that I'm no expert, just using and intermediate user's intuition
[11:14] <SchrodingersScat> dreamon: I think i remember someone talking about a load balancing feature in linux, but you'll need someone more experienced than I, good luck.
[11:15] <dreamon> te5ita, Any idea where I can ask?
[11:15] <mr_Block> hmm, tried everything i found on the net to repair my ubuntu, unfortunately nothing helped
[11:15] <mr_Block> so rm -rf /* seems to be the best option
[11:15] <mr_Block> and go back to windows or another linux distro
[11:16] <SchrodingersScat> mr_Block: have you tried apt-get for installing packages?
[11:16] <blazemore> m4tux: What options are there?
[11:16] <mr_Block> yes
[11:16] <mr_Block> most things say 0 packages recieved installed etc SchrodingersScat
[11:17] <mr_Block> and all the ways i found to switch, reset, remove, reinstall my driver fail SchrodingersScat
[11:17] <m4tux> blazemore, i told you , when i right click on them i got 2 options launch & options
[11:18] <m4tux> blazemore, did you have and idea how can i delete it with command line ?
[11:18] <wilee-nilee> m4tux, Your using the fallback desktop only made really as an after thought for those that can't adapt.
[11:18] <blazemore> m4tux: What if you alt and right-click
[11:19] <funky1> hi ppl, i have some bluetooth issue, when i try to connect from cli which is what i want, when using the gui it works, but i need the cli to work, could someone have look and point me in the right direction please http://pastebin.com/wF9Wzs4F
[11:30] <[nas]peter> When I boot from a live CD, I only get a black screen when I click on: Try ubuntu without installing. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:32] <shiy> hello everybody.
[11:32] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|[nas]peter,
[11:32] <cfhowlett> shiy, greeting
[11:39] <[nas]peter> I don't see the ubuntu boot menu
[11:39] <[nas]peter> I see the GNU GRUB version1.99-21ubuntu3.10
[11:39] <[nas]peter> menu
[11:40] <blazemore> That is it [nas]peter
[11:40] <[nas]peter> f6 doesn't show me that menu
[11:40] <bekks> Why would it? :)
[11:40] <[nas]peter> the menu stated in that thread
[11:40] <bekks> You are already in the menu.
[11:41] <[nas]peter> the box that should appear to enter nomodeset
[11:41] <[nas]peter> the gray menu
[11:43] <[nas]peter> 1) the menu I get is purple
[11:44] <blazemore> [nas]peter: It's a little different process for the LiveCD http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[11:46] <[nas]peter> Control-x doesn't work
[11:47] <cactuswizard_> god damnit
[11:47] <A1Recon> Sometimes I can't use my K/B and mouse. The number 0 just starts typing on its own.
[11:47] <cactuswizard_> my dock went weird after Amarok crashed
[11:47] <cfhowlett> A1Recon, clean your keyboard?
[11:47] <A1Recon> and right click also doesn't work....
[11:47] <cfhowlett> A1Recon, or is that a bluetooth/wifi thing?
[11:48] <A1Recon> cfhowlett: Tried this with multiple keyboards
[11:48] <A1Recon> cfhowlett: 0wired k/b and mouse...
[11:48] <A1Recon> see the 0 there^^
[11:48] <A1Recon> 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[11:48] <elglas> morning everyone, question for the day is, how do I setup partitioning in preseed.cfg to force the use of 4k sector alignment?
[11:49] <[nas]peter> ugh I give up
[11:49] <A1Recon> sorry
[11:49] <cfhowlett> A1Recon, this on a laptop?  if so, could you palm be hitting the pad?
[11:50] <NarcotiX> Is there anyone here who has any ideea how to flip my upside-down image on Skype ?
[11:50] <A1Recon> 0000no
[11:50] <A1Recon> cfhowlett: no
[11:50] <cowbacon> NarcotiX: flip it in skype ?
[11:50] <cowbacon> or in gimp
[11:50] <A1Recon> Guy0s 0wh0at0's wr0onm0?
[11:50] <elglas> A1Recon, bash the zero key HARD on your keyboard
[11:51] <Guest2710> hi
[11:51] <cfhowlett> Guest2710, greetings
[11:51] <blazemore> NarcotiX: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Libv4l_Upside_Down_Webcams
[11:51] <Guest2710> testing irssi via cli. its an awesome irc client
[11:52] <usr13> elglas: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/linux-partitioning-using-%27preseed-cfg%27-file-847409/
[11:52] <NarcotiX> blazemore, thank you! cowbacon I will tell you in private if it won't work blazemore's solution
[11:52] <usr13> Guest2710: Yea it is.
[11:52] <A1Recon> elglas: worked... i think for now! It was probably happening due to the bad USB keyboard....
[11:52] <auronandace> Guest2710: you might like weechat too then
[11:52] <A1Recon> elglas: Thanks!!
[11:53] <elglas> A1Recon, glad to be of semi-destructive service :)
[11:53] <A1Recon> :)
[11:53] <Guest2710> exit
[11:53] <A1Recon> bye and thanks guys!!
[11:54] <usr13> Guest2710: /exit
[11:54] <Guest2710> thxn mate haha. have a good day
[11:55] <elglas> usr13, thanks! if I'm reading this right, it should just work, assuming it the disk is recognized as having 4k sectors.
[11:56] <michael87> I love using the hot corner feature on ubuntu 13.04 via unity tweak tool. I have a question though . I saw a ubuntu user change the color the hot corner select glow from orange to another color. My question is how do I change that?
[11:57] <blazemore> michael87: There's an option for that in Unity Tweak Tool http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3e6akcMBYEA/UUWY1zC0BXI/AAAAAAAAOlI/XqLoe6fVBGM/s1600/unity-tweak-tool_2.png
[11:57] <usr13> elglas: http://ftp.dc.volia.com/pub/debian/preseed/partman-auto-recipe.txt
[11:59] <The_Chronicler> hi, quick question. i've got a lot of dead links to old external hdds in my /media folder. is there any way to remove them?
[11:59] <michael87> blazemore, that only changes the color of the window snapping. What i am talking about is the hot corner feature that lets you see all your windows at once and when you have your cursor hovering over a window it glows. want to change the color on that
[11:59] <bekks> The_Chronicler: Yes, "rm" them,
[12:00] <blazemore> michael87: Are you sure they were using Unity and not Cinnamon?
[12:01] <The_Chronicler> is the command "rm /media/[name of dead folder]? thanks for the help by the way
[12:01] <michael87> blazemore, they where using unity
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> michael87  use unity-tweak-tool
[12:02] <elglas> The_Chronicler, (use this with extreme caution) open up a terminal and type: "sudo rm -r /media/<the first few characters><tab>" the tab will auto complete for the link name
[12:02] <michael87> MonkeyDust, unity tweak tool is open. I have looked through all the settings and still haven't found how to change that
[12:03] <The_Chronicler> great, thanks for the help. i'll make sure not to accidentally remove my ubuntu install, lol
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> michael87  hmm, odd, try gnome-tweak-tool or ubuntu-tweak, if that doesnt help, then i don't know
[12:04] <elglas> The_Chronicler, no problem, also, always keep backups of anything vital :)
[12:07] <michael87> MonkeyDust, its ok. Its only a miner irateness. I am personally glad with all the tweaks I have made with my unity desktop. the one thing I loved about the kde desktop (windows glowwing) I learned how to do thanks to compiz settings. linux is amazing. Ubuntu is amazing. hope the window snap here in 13.04 stays
[12:33] <tozen> hi all! was installed wallpapers from previous versions on my ubuntu 12.04.3 using sudo apt-get install ubuntu-wallpapers 10.04 10.10 command but opening Appearance settings I couldn find them there... doeas anbd able to halp me to sort out this issue, please? thx
[12:34] <tozen> * does * help
[12:38] <cfhowlett> tozen, 10.04 is end of life so you can't apt get easily.  I'd say download the ISO and either install to a virtual machine and copy or extract from the ISO
[12:39] <cfhowlett> tozen, you MIGHT be able to get the wallpaper from the 10.04 wiki but you'll have to hunt around the official artwork link
[12:41] <eimis> hi
[12:42] <mrrcp> hu
[12:42] <mrrcp> hi
[12:42] <sakshi> Hi. My webcamera is not being detected for http://socialgif.com/. I am using ubuntu 12.04. Please help.
[12:43] <bekks> sakshi: Which webcamera is it, which chipset?
[12:44] <tozen> cfhowlett: ok, thx
[12:46] <marloshouse> this is going to sound like a silly question, but where do i find my mounted cdrom on my server
[12:47] <cfhowlett> marloshouse, should be /media
[12:47] <marloshouse> i see cdrom there, but there's nothing in it
[12:47] <marloshouse> and i'm reading it right now
[12:47] <marloshouse> (or installing something from it)
[12:47] <gordonjcp> marloshouse: type "mount" and work it out from there
[12:48] <marloshouse> well, i'm installing windows
[12:48] <gordonjcp> marloshouse: it may not be mounted automatically
[12:48] <marloshouse> it's not in mount
[12:48] <gordonjcp> okay, so it's not mounted automatically
[12:48] <marloshouse> virtualbox found it and is installing windows from it right now
[12:48] <gordonjcp> which kind of makes sense, since the server edition doesn't do that
[12:48] <marloshouse> where did virtualbox get it from?
[12:49] <neredsenvy> Can someone help me here I have a HDD with Ubuntu running on it and SSD nothing on it I can select both as bootable in boot menu. http://worldotech.wordpress.com/2011/12/31/how-to-install-windows-7-or-windows-8-from-your-external-hard-drive/ I followed this tutorial to install Windows from external HDD the SSD in my case to my HDD that is running Ubuntu
[12:49] <neredsenvy> However I'm stuck at step 3
[12:49] <neredsenvy> Anyway to do that In Ubuntu ?
[12:49] <bekks> marloshouse: From the cd, which you configured in the vbox settings,.
[12:49] <sakshi> bekks: It's written CMOS Camera lens
[12:49] <bekks> sakshi: Where is that written?
[12:49] <marloshouse> sr0 virtualbox says
[12:49] <marloshouse> hmm
[12:50] <bekks> marloshouse: You configured your vm to use that drive.
[12:50] <marloshouse> weird
[12:50] <sakshi> bekks: In the manual.
[12:50] <marloshouse> i just expected it to be 'mount'ed somewhere
[12:50] <bekks> sakshi: The manual is irrelevant at that point. Which chipset is it?
[12:51] <sakshi> bekks: How do I find that?
[12:51] <bekks> 33
[12:51] <bekks> sakshi: Use lsusb
[12:54] <marloshouse> ok, so, since my cdrom is not mounted like i expected, how can I get it mounted, or identify which device it is.  in dmesg | grep sd I don't see any devices as 'sdd' or something that i'd expect to be the cdrom
[12:55] <bekks> marloshouse: use the "mount" command.
[13:00] <Giupizz93> Hi
[13:01] <marloshouse> i feel completely inept... there is no cdrom in fstab or mtab
[13:01] <bekks> marloshouse: You dont need a fstab entry to mount a cdrom.
[13:01] <tozen> cfhowlett:
[13:01] <tozen> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-wallpapers-extra ubuntu-wallpapers-karmic ubuntu-wallpapers-lucid ubuntu-wallpapers-maverick ubuntu-wallpapers-natty ubuntu-wallpapers-oneiric ubuntu-wallpapers-precise
[13:01] <tozen> this helped me
[13:02] <cfhowlett> tozen, nice.  What I did: I wanted the UbuntuStudio and Ubuntu Satanic wallpapers.  Downloaded all and put archived them to UbuntuOne.  Ready whenever I need them.
[13:02] <oscar> Can anyone help me with my problem about suspending in Ubuntu 13.04?
[13:03] <bekks> oscar: You have to state your problem first.
[13:03] <sakshi> eimis: Nope.
[13:03] <tozen> cfhowlett: ok ;)
[13:04] <oscar> Whenever I open my computer after suspending it, my screen goes crazy, it flashes tons of different colours. It seems that the OS still works when it does this, I just cant make out anything
[13:04] <bekks> oscar: So which Ubuntu do you use, which graphics driver and which kernel?
[13:05] <oscar> Ubuntu Version: 13.04
[13:05] <oscar> whats a kernel sorry?
[13:05] <bekks> !kernel | oscar
[13:05] <bekks> oscar: Whats the output of "uname -a"?
[13:06] <sakshi> bekks: Isusb command not found :(
[13:06] <oscar> I have no Idea, I just got Ubuntu a day ago
[13:06] <oscar> This is all new to me
[13:06] <bekks> sakshi: it is a lowercase L, not an uppercase i
[13:06] <bekks> oscar: Then ope a terminal and type it in.
[13:07] <sakshi> bekks: No command 'isusb' found,
[13:07] <oscar> Linux Oscar-Laptop 3.8.0-30-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 20:54:42 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:07] <bekks> sakshi: it is a lowercase L, not an uppercase i
[13:07] <eimis> sakshi: lsusb
[13:08] <Nox_404> Hi, i made a mistake, on an ubuntu server 12.04 i create a bridge between eth0 and another bridge (i wrote the wrong iface) so now i can't reconnect this server ! (using ssh). If i reboot the server will my connection be back ?
[13:08] <oscar> Does that help bekks?
[13:09] <bekks> oscar: We need to know which graphics hardware and which driver yoiu are using.
[13:09] <sakshi> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6079058/
[13:10] <HelloWorld3211> I've got a unity destop with some weird graphical goings-on ... they're static (not moving, and much of some windows are fine.  What it looks like is that the "left side bar" hase expaded the first five icons across the entire width of the screen.  The mouse is frozen, but I can SSH (PuTTY) into it.  How can I reset the desktop?  I'd prefer not to reboot because I have unsaved work.
[13:10] <oscar> Graphics:  AMD RV710
[13:10] <bekks> sakshi: Look at line 7, thats your webcam,
[13:10] <oscar> Driver: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV710
[13:10] <krux> HelloWorld3211, sudo service lightdm restart
[13:10] <bekks> oscar: Where do you get that driver info from?
[13:10] <sakshi> bekks: right
[13:11] <HelloWorld3211> thanks krux, I'll give that a shot
[13:11] <Nox_404> answer me please
[13:11] <oscar> From Details
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Nox_404, suggest you ask in #ubuntu-server
[13:11] <bekks> Nox_404: We dont know how exactly you did that - so we cant answer that question.
[13:11] <Nox_404> cfhowlett: thanks i'll try
[13:12] <bekks> oscar: From details _where_?
[13:12] <bekks> oscar: We dont see your screen.
[13:12] <oscar> I just searched System, and Details came up
[13:12] <oscar> from the Dash thing
[13:12] <sakshi> bekks: Now?
[13:13] <bekks> oscar: And gallium is not a driver. You are using radean, dont you?
[13:13] <Nox_404> bekks: I just made a bridge between an iface (eth0) and another bidge with `brctl addif`
[13:13] <bekks> sakshi: Now you have to search wether that device is supported.
[13:13] <oscar> I would assume that yeah
[13:13] <bekks> oscar: Look it up please.
[13:13] <bekks> !radeon|oscar
[13:14] <oscar> It just says this: Driver Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV710
[13:14] <bekks> oscar: Gallium is not a driver.
[13:14] <oscar> I got this laptop in 2009, and I havnt installed any new drivers, maybe it just dosnt exist anymore?
[13:14] <bekks> oscar: Nope.
[13:15] <bekks> oscar: Please read the link the bot gave you.
[13:15] <cfhowlett> oscar, entirely possible
[13:15] <bekks> cfhowlett: radeon drivers still exist.
[13:15] <cfhowlett> bekks, I know.  I was speaking to Gallium driver he mentioned.
[13:17] <HelloWorld3211> that doesn't have visible results, but the heat-monitor decided to turn the fan up, so it's doing something
[13:17] <HelloWorld3211> I've got a unity destop with some weird graphical goings-on ... they're static (not moving, and much of some windows are fine.  What it looks like is that the "left side bar" hase expaded the first five icons across the entire width of the screen.  The mouse is frozen, but I can SSH (PuTTY) into it.  Using "sudo service lightdm restart" doesn't have a visible result.
[13:18] <HelloWorld3211> I'm reading a related SuperUser article.  What does Ctl+Alt+Bcksp do?  What is Alt-Sys-REISUB ?
[13:20] <bekks> HelloWorld3211: Better read the official ubuntu wiki.
[13:20] <bekks> !sysrq | HelloWorld3211
[13:21] <HelloWorld3211> k, tx
[13:24] <HelloWorld3211> I don't think REISUB is what I want to mess with today.
[13:25] <bekks> HelloWorld3211: You dont have to mmess with it, you have to know that it exists.
[13:25] <HelloWorld3211> bekks: that's pretty much my perspective at this time.   "Oooo: neat to know"
[13:29] <patrick> hi
[13:32] <neredsenvy> In ubuntu how can I make a drive bootable ? I formated my SSD extracted Windows 8 iso contents to it.
[13:32] <neredsenvy> I just need to make it bootable in Windows the command is bootsec
[13:32] <neredsenvy> Whats the alternative in Ubuntu ?
[13:33] <challach> hello
[13:33] <eimis> hi
[13:33] <cactuswizard> hi
[13:33] <challach> after making some customizations i always have to double click on a program in the taskbar to switch to it. how can i change this behavior? it's really annoying.
[13:33] <challach> i want to change it to single click how it was before. please help
[13:34] <eimis> are you running unity?
[13:34] <jrib> neredsenvy: are you using grub?
[13:34] <challach> in the mouse settings it's applied fir single click
[13:34] <challach> no i'm running kde
[13:35] <neredsenvy> jrib: No I simply mounted the drive, formated to NTFS extracted ISO contents to it and now i need to make it bootable. I followed this tutorial http://worldotech.wordpress.com/2011/12/31/how-to-install-windows-7-or-windows-8-from-your-external-hard-drive/
[13:35] <neredsenvy> Stuck at step Three
[13:35] <jrib> neredsenvy: you can use parted or gparted
[13:36] <neredsenvy> jrib: I have gparted
[13:36] <neredsenvy> How do I make the drive bootable from gparted ?
[13:36] <jrib> neredsenvy: it should be exposed in the gui.  Try exploring the menus or right clicking on the partition and look for "flags"
[13:37] <jrib> neredsenvy: http://www.gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual#gparted-manage-partition-flags
[13:37] <challach> don't know what to do anymore. can't find anything for this problem on google
[13:38] <same22> hi all
[13:38] <challach> i don't know from where it came from
[13:38] <neredsenvy> jrib: Ok found it under Manage Flags: I have options boot/diag/hidden/lba/lvm/palo/prep/raid I'm assuming i'm selecting boot
[13:38] <challach> hi
[13:40] <tkeith> How can I figure out why a certain package is installed -- whether it's installed by default or as a dependency of another package?
[13:40] <jrib> neredsenvy: that seems like a reasonable assumption
[13:40] <jrib> tkeith: aptitude why package; hold for non-aptitude solution
[13:42] <jrib> tkeith: use apt-mark show*; not sure if there's a way to query about a specific package (there likely is), but you can grep the output of the various show* subcommands to apt-mark
[13:43] <sakshi> bekks: I am trying this http://gl860.sourceforge.net/. But seems difficult.
[13:43] <jrib> tkeith: why do you care about this information by the way?
[13:43] <tkeith> jrib: Ok thanks, I've got aptitude but I don't understand the output. I'm trying to figure out why unattended-upgrades is installed. Here's the "aptitude why unattended-upgrades" output: http://pastebin.com/iDaPAwiV
[13:44] <jrib> tkeith: there are some examples in aptitude's man page
[13:45] <Ice_Strike> root@back:~# modprobe fuse
[13:45] <Ice_Strike> FATAL: Module fuse not found.
[13:46] <Ice_Strike> What to do?
[13:46] <jrib> tkeith: if you've established the package was intsalled as a dependency you can also do: apt-cache rdepends unattended-upgrades
[13:48] <jrib> Ice_Strike: why do you want to modprobe fuse?
[13:48] <mithu> ubuntu 13.04 wifi problem .. works fine in live mode but cant use it after full installation
[13:48] <tkeith> jrib: Oh crap, I aptitude why'ed on the wrong machine. It looks like it's a result of installing firefox.
[13:49] <Ice_Strike> jrib im trying to mout truecrypt image
[13:49] <jrib> tkeith: that's weird
[13:49] <tkeith> Are recommends packages usually necessary? Why are they installed by default?
[13:50] <cactuswizard> i don't think so
[13:50] <jrib> tkeith: they're packages the maintainer "recommends" in the sense that they enable functionality most people would expect/want.  Yes, they are installed by default
[13:50] <strange> hey guys im sharing wifi through my computer so my computer gets signal then its connected to wan port on a router and spreads it to other boxes from the other box i can connect to the main box but from main box i cant ssh to the other boxes (so from a computer on the router network i can connect to 10.42.0.1 which is the main computer but from there i cant connect to 192.168.0.100 which is a box on the network)
[13:51] <strange> anyone know how to ?
[13:51] <mithu>  wifi problem .. works fine in live mode but cant use it after full installation
[13:51] <cactuswizard> oh hey
[13:51] <tkeith> It's a funny chain from firefox to unattended-upgrades: http://pastebin.com/gN74z4aA
[13:51] <jrib> Ice_Strike: output of uname -a
[13:51] <cactuswizard> why is ubuntu using only 2gbs of my 4gb ram...
[13:51] <cactuswizard> can
[13:52] <strange> cactuswizard: you sure its not 3?
[13:52] <Ice_Strike> jrib Linux back 2.6.32-042stab072.10 #1 SMP Wed Jan 16 18:54:05 MSK 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:52] <strange> cactuswizard: thats hte maximum 32bit can handle
[13:52] <Prestotron562> Hello.
[13:52] <jrib> Ice_Strike: this doesn't seem like a standard ubuntu kernel from the repositories?  Am I mistaken?
[13:52] <cactuswizard> strange, but i have 64bit technology and 64bit ubuntu too
[13:52] <strange> then it should use all
[13:52] <Prestotron562> Hey guys, have you heard of Minetest?
[13:53] <gvo> Ice_Strike: Are you running OpenVz?
[13:53] <Ice_Strike> Yes OpenVz
[13:53] <jrib> Ice_Strike: ask your provider for help
[13:53] <gvo> On ubuntu?
[13:53] <marloshouse> got a weird networking issue.  i have to super high-speed connections, and i'm rsync an iso over to on.  transfer rate is about 500kB/s, yet speakeasy.net show gb transfer rates on both ends... where would i look for the bottleneck?
[13:54] <Ice_Strike> gvo OpenVz on centOS... running Ubuntu as VM
[13:54] <mrrcp> cactuswizard: you using it on a direct install or virtbox?
[13:54] <gvo> Ice_Strike: You must do all kernel module activity on the hosts, i.e. centos
[13:54] <HelloWorld3211> Is there a way to use SSH to tell gedit to save its buffers?  (my desktop is frozen, but SSH works)
[13:54] <gvo> You can't run modprobe on a container, i.e. Ubuntu
[13:55] <jrib> Ice_Strike: on ubuntu's kernels, fuse gets compiled in I believe
[13:55] <gvo> Ice_Strike: You don't have a kernel in a OpenVz container
[13:55] <gvo> jrib: there is no ubuntu kernel present on his machine, however.
[13:55] <Ice_Strike> so what I do?
[13:56] <jrib> <not an ubuntu issue>
[13:56] <gvo> Install the modules under centos
[13:56] <Ice_Strike> so I need to enable fuse from OpenVz?
[13:56] <Ice_Strike> yea
[13:56] <gvo> jrib exactly
[13:56] <gvo> Ice_Strike: no install it while running a terminal on the HOST centos system.
[13:56] <Ice_Strike> Ah too much hasssle! might as well get s3 for backup use
[13:57] <HelloWorld3211> "sudo stop lightdm" results in "stop: Unknown instance:"; does that suggest anything about my desktop?
[13:58] <sakshi> bekks: Are u around?
[13:58] <Ice_Strike> gvo is it that? http://openvz.org/FUSE
[13:59] <gvo> Looks like it'll work.
[14:00] <sakshi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869263&page=35 I'm using this to enable my 05e3:0503 Genesys Logic, Inc. Webcam.
[14:00] <Ice_Strike> Cool
[14:00] <Ice_Strike> What is fuse?
[14:00] <gvo> user space file system.
[14:02] <gvo> It's a way of letting a normal user define and mount filesystems.  That's a bad explanation but the best I can come up with.
[14:02] <Ice_Strike> I get the point :) thanks.
[14:02] <gvo> The filesystems aren't your normal ext4, etc.
[14:03] <gvo> Are you familiar with ssh?
[14:03] <Ice_Strike> depend
[14:03] <m1chael> i have a windows 8 laptop. i tried to install ubuntu on it a few months ago. i deleted the efi partition and removed ubuntu. however, i still see Ubuntu in the bios/efi boot menu. i tried using 'bcdedit' but do not see Ubuntu in the list. I tried using xubuntu 13.04 x64 'efibootmgr' but there is a bug that does not make the changes. I don't have fast enough internet at the moment to try ubuntu
[14:03] <m1chael> 12.04. is there a way i can do this without downloading ubuntu 12.04?
[14:03] <gvo> OK there is a fuse app called sshfs.
[14:04] <gvo> I can do a sshfs jim@example.com mylocaldirectory
[14:04] <Ice_Strike> cool
[14:04] <gvo> well, more like: sshfs jim@example.com:/tmp mylocaldirectory
[14:04] <Ice_Strike> gvo Is there alternative from truecrypt i can use?
[14:04] <Ice_Strike> I want to backup data but it got be encrypted
[14:04] <gvo> And now I've got local access to the /tmp on example.com
[14:05] <jrib> Ice_Strike: you can always just encrypt the file and not use an encrypted filesystem for that
[14:05] <gvo> Ice_Strike: encrypt it on the fly or before you write it to another system.
[14:06] <Ice_Strike> its thousands of files.
[14:06] <jrib> Ice_Strike: create a single one (tar.gz for example).  Duplicity does this all automatically
[14:06] <Ice_Strike> 300GB :P
[14:07] <bwayne> +1 for the suggested use of duplicity
[14:07] <gvo> +2 for duplicity
[14:08] <Ice_Strike> But I want to backup from Windows.
[14:09] <bekks> Ice_Strike: Then use a full blown backup solution running on Windows.
[14:10] <Ice_Strike> I just had a look at duplicity
[14:10] <Ice_Strike> really cool
[14:13] <HelloWorld3211> if "pgrep dm" returns nothing, but I see a "compiz" process, does that mean I'm not running unity?
[14:14] <gvo> If you can figure out how to run things, then you're probably not running unity
[14:16] <zykotick9> HelloWorld3211: actually, currently Unity IS a compiz plugin... so seeing compiz would be a requirement for unity...
[14:16] <editheraven> I want to do a bash script with commands that use root account privileges. So, before script starts running I've made a function to log as root. But after the root login, in script, the console halts. The reast of the code is never executed . If I type exit, the script resumes but without root privileges.. This is my code. http://pastebin.com/r2TZKGT0 Anyone have any idea why?
[14:16] <ikonia> editheraven: why don't you just use sudo correctly ?
[14:17] <ikonia> editheraven: or run the script as root
[14:17] <editheraven> I am helping a friend for a school project and the teacher wants to be prompted to log as root
[14:17] <zykotick9> editheraven: then use something other then ubuntu...
[14:17] <ikonia> editheraven: then why are you helping him if a.) it's a school project b.) you don't know how to do it yourself
[14:18] <ikonia> editheraven: the correct function would be to use sudo or run the scrpit from root
[14:19] <gvo> A rather enlightened school, running linux.
[14:21] <editheraven> yeah...
[14:21] <jrib> ikonia, zykotick9: don't worry "login as root" means "sudo bash" apparently
[14:22] <ikonia> jrib: what.......
[14:22] <jrib> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/r2TZKGT0
[14:22] <ikonia> that's just stupid
[14:22] <ikonia> jrib: where did you get that ?
[14:22] <zykotick9> jrib: "sudo bash" is a BAD idea, environment will be messed up...
[14:22] <HelloWorld3211> tx zykotick9
[14:24] <neredsenvy> HELP ME..I just installed windows from usb over my ubuntu instalation and after instal windows did a reboot and now im getting: unknown filesystem grub rescue message on boot
[14:24] <jrib> editheraven: my suggestion would be that you detect the script isn't running as root/with sudo privileges, and then exit with a message saying "must be run with sudo privileges" or something similar
[14:24] <HelloWorld3211> I rand "sudo service lightdm restart" as per an earlier suggestion from krux and got an error, X server stopped while/after registering seat (http://pastebin.com/Bf7wuiHs)
[14:25] <Synth_> Help I just bought a Canon MP287 All in one printer and I think I was able to install the drivers but when I try to check the ink levels i only have this message "Marker levels are not reported for this printer"
[14:25] <Synth_> What should I do? I got the drivers from canon
[14:25] <jrib> editheraven: if you want an explanation as to why your script seems to pause, it's because you've started a new shell and that shell is going to stay open doing what a shell does (reading and executing commands) until you exit out.  You shouldn't use sudo bash.  If you ever do need a root shell, you can use « sudo -i » instead.  But this is also not what you want for your script.
[14:27] <Synth_> please help
[14:27] <neredsenvy> jrib: any idea why after succssesful win install over ubuntu i get unknown filesystem on boot and grub rescues console
[14:27] <jrib> neredsenvy: if grub is still coming up, then windows didn't write to the mbr
[14:27] <mrrcp> you installed winblows on top of ubuntu?
[14:28] <mrrcp> your master boot is effed
[14:28] <ikonia> mrrcp: it's called "windows"
[14:28] <ikonia> mrrcp: control your language - we know what you mean and it's not acceptable
[14:28] <Ice_Strike> I have managed to enable fuse on openvz
[14:28] <Ice_Strike> on the vps im now getting different error
[14:28] <Ice_Strike> Error: Failed to set up a loop device:
[14:29] <mrrcp> ikonia:  sir yes sir
[14:29] <Ice_Strike> /root/back.tc
[14:29] <jrib> !enter | Ice_Strike
[14:29] <ikonia> Ice_Strike: root should not be enabled in ubuntu
[14:29] <ikonia> Ice_Strike: so you shouldn't have anything in /root
[14:30] <neredsenvy>  mrrcp:  i formated the ubuntu hard drive and installed fresh win and i get this what are my options here?
[14:31] <HelloWorld3211> my /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log says that "Launching process 32048: /usr/bin/X :1 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:1 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch" leads to "Process 32048 exited with return value 1"
[14:31] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello, i've updated kernel to version 3.8.0-30 but the old 3.8.0-29 version don't apear at grub's prompt
[14:31] <mrrcp> neredsenvy: what version of windows?
[14:31] <neredsenvy> mrrcp: 8.1
[14:31] <mrrcp> eeeek
[14:31] <mrrcp> 1 sec
[14:32] <mrrcp> neredsenvy: http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-fix-windows-8-mbr-master-boot-record/
[14:32] <mrrcp> there you go
[14:32] <zykotick9> rafaelsoaresbr: recent grub versions only show 1 kernel, do you see a "more options", or something similar?
[14:32] <mrrcp> follow the steps
[14:33] <rafaelsoaresbr> zykotick9, i am going to try, thanks
[14:37] <rafaelsoaresbr> zykotick9, it has a section called "previos linux versions" and the only option is memtest
[14:37] <nabblet> hi, can some1 verfy very high Xorg usage when running disk usage analyzer in ubuntu 12.10?
[14:38] <zykotick9> rafaelsoaresbr: in that case... i got nothin'.  sorry.  best of luck.
[14:38] <nabblet> if verfied, i'll file a bug
[14:38] <nabblet> i get up to 50% CPU usage from Xorg and 25% CPU usage from baobao
[14:39] <nabblet> i have to add that i'm on a slow system, but still, Xorg should not use so much ressources, if any
[14:39] <denker> hello, how do I set the port tp be used ith the ftp command? need to change it
[14:39] <nabblet> !bug
[14:39] <zykotick9> denker: ftp is a port/firewall nightmare... ftp must die.
[14:40] <HelloWorld3211> is "sudo service lightdm restart" supposed to work via SSH?
[14:40] <denker> :zykotick9 I need to transfer some files doh :(
[14:40] <zykotick9> denker: try ssh(scp) as a secure alternative.
[14:40] <Sicno> hi, how do I set acpi=off at boot time? on the live session I had to use that option in order to boot, otherwise I got an error
[14:40] <rafaelsoaresbr> zykotick9, i've installed xserver-xorg-lts-precise because i need xorg version 1.11
[14:41] <zykotick9> denker: AND changing ssh's port is easy ;)  ftp has MANY ports involved.
[14:41] <denker> :zykotick9 can I run that from the linux terminal?
[14:41] <denker> im running ubuntu server
[14:41] <Sicno> now that I installed it I'm not sure how to set that option at boot time for it to proceed with the normal boot
[14:41] <zykotick9> denker: yes.  ssh will include scp support.
[14:42] <denker> :zykotick9  thanks will try that
[14:42] <zykotick9> rafaelsoaresbr: what does xserver-xorg-lts-precise have in common with kernel version?
[14:43] <rafaelsoaresbr> zykotick9, i want to install fglrx, but I need Xorg 1.11 and kernel 3.8.0-29
[14:43] <zykotick9> rafaelsoaresbr: ahhh, well good luck.  don't reply to me further.
[14:44] <rafaelsoaresbr> zykotick9, thanks anyway
[14:51] <HelloWorld3211> I would've liked to save my text buffers, but it looks like I'll have to reboot.
[14:53] <BluesKaj> hey all
[14:54] <HelloWorld3211> so my desktop is frozen.  Ctl+Alt+Bksp, Ctrl-Alt-F1, Ctrl-Alt-F2 .... have no visible effect;  I don't have a terminal on this machine, but I can SSH in from another machine.  using "sudo service lightdm restart" from SSH fails.  Any tips for getting my desktop back before I reboot?
[14:55] <HelloWorld3211> and btw, the error message for "lightdm restart" is at http://pastebin.com/Bf7wuiHs
[14:56] <HelloWorld3211> and this is the sort of thing, that like, "why would they ever do that?" but it would come in handy here, is there a way to get gedit to save before I reboot?
[14:59] <akshay2000> Apparently, ubuntu-sdk dependencies are broken.
[15:00] <akshay2000> qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu-cordova
[15:00] <akshay2000> Package has been deleted from the Ubuntu team repo.
[15:03] <jp_hranice> Hi guys. Do not you know anything abou laging of ubuntu 13.04 during Firefox is running ?
[15:07] <akshay2000> Does anybody even chat here?
[15:07] <jp_hranice> me ...
[15:07] <jp_hranice> Do not you know anything abou laging of ubuntu 13.04 during Firefox is running ?
[15:08] <jp_hranice> Do you know anything abou laging of ubuntu 13.04 during Firefox is running ?
[15:08] <jp_hranice> :-)
[15:08] <nabblet> jp_hranice: what is your main languag?
[15:08] <nabblet> *language
[15:08] <jp_hranice> czech
[15:08] <nabblet> !czech
[15:09] <nabblet> jp_hranice: also, do not repeat your question in short intervalls
[15:11] <akshay2000> Alright! Ubuntu shouldn't lag due to firefox.
[15:11] <anonymous87> how many of you are running anonymous os
[15:11] <akshay2000> Check firefox for addons and memory leakage.
[15:11] <akshay2000> By the way, ubuntu-sdk dependencies are broken.
[15:11] <akshay2000> Is it the same for everyone?
[15:11] <akshay2000> qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu-cordova has been deleted from the team repo.
[15:12] <ottalo> !help
[15:13] <ottalo> pls how can i scan for shell om irc
[15:13] <kostkon> akshay2000, try ppa-purge then reinstall the ubuntu-sdk
[15:13] <ottalo> who can help me
[15:13] <akshay2000> @kostkon Where is PPA purge? In Universe?
[15:14] <kostkon> !info ppa-purge
[15:14] <bwayne> ottalo: i'm not sure what you're asking.  the bash channel, perhaps?
[15:14] <kostkon> akshay2000, yes
[15:14] <ottalo> on whr pls
[15:15] <Synth_> please help me i just bought a canon mp 287 all in one printer and i got the drivers from canon's website and when i try to check the ink levels it shows me the marker levels are not reported on this printer
[15:15] <kostkon> akshay2000, they have changed some of the packages. i was prompted to do a partial upgrade and everything went fine
[15:15] <Synth_> help please
[15:15] <akshay2000> kostkon: Partially upgrade exactly what? What do you leave and what do you install?
[15:16] <Synth_> wow seriously no help?
[15:16] <kostkon> akshay2000, it's automatic
[15:16] <kostkon> !patience | Synth_
[15:16] <akshay2000> Let me try, kostkon
[15:16] <bwayne> Synth_: it may be that the OS doesn't support the communication protocol of that information.
[15:16] <Synth_> 12.04
[15:18] <bwayne> Synth_: I've found that functionality rarely works.
[15:18] <jp_hranice> nabblet: Now my facebook side fail on chromium due low mem. I got 2GB RAM
[15:18] <Synth_> so how would i know if im low on ink?
[15:18] <bwayne> Synth_: the printed documents will lack the ink.
[15:19] <nabblet> jp_hranice: sound's like a memory leak to me
[15:19] <nabblet> jp_hranice: but i am no expert
[15:19] <nabblet> jp_hranice: try midori ?
[15:19] <Synth_> well thats a deag
[15:19] <Synth_> drag
[15:19] <bwayne> Synth_: and I've found that those levels reported are underestimated. There's typically more ink than those levels indicate.
[15:19] <akshay2000> Synth_, looks like the hard way it is!
[15:20] <Synth_> Well thats not cool
[15:20] <bwayne> Synth_: and this information is usually displayed on the printer itself.
[15:20] <akshay2000> kostkon, I just purged the ubuntu-sdk-team. What do I do now?
[15:20] <akshay2000> Add it again?
[15:21] <kostkon> akshay2000, yes, i.e. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk
[15:21] <akshay2000> bwayne: Older printers don't have anything except annoying LEDs!
[15:21] <kostkon> akshay2000, eh sorry, i meant: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk
[15:21] <akshay2000> kostkon: So, shouldn't I add the PPA first?
[15:22] <bwayne> akshay2000: well, Synth_'s appears to be new. And if you have an old version, do they even report ink levels?
[15:22] <kostkon> akshay2000, yes, my fault
[15:22] <akshay2000> Oh, right! Got it.
[15:23] <akshay2000> bwayne: Can't say! I had an old one - with a huge printer port. It could report ink levels to the software it came with.
[15:24] <bwayne> I guess Synth left. Found from a google search. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/escputil.1.html
[15:24] <akshay2000> bwayne: You, he left!
[15:24] <bwayne> It's amazing what Google can do. I'm foolish to assume people Google before entering the chan.
[15:25] <KeyboardNotFound> I have not formated partition on disk, can i format it to linux-swap and to use it as swap after installing ubuntu ?
[15:25] <bwayne> akshay2000: whatever
[15:25] <bwayne> akshay2000: my contributions were always couched in 'perhaps'.
[15:26] <akshay2000> kostkon: Nope! Still the same error. That package is not installable.
[15:26] <kostkon> akshay2000, hmm
[15:27] <kostkon> akshay2000, then wait for a couple of hours and try again. try in regular intervals. it should me temporary
[15:28] <akshay2000> kostkon: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/ubuntu_sdk_release/raring/main/base/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu-cordova
[15:28] <akshay2000> kostkon: The link says that it has been deleted.
[15:29] <akshay2000> kostkon: Looks like someone took it down for maintenance or something? Or maybe, someone screwed up! :D
[15:29] <kostkon> akshay2000, then we will have to wait to update the deps on the other packages
[15:29] <akshay2000> Hopefully, that will solve it, kostkon.
[15:29] <kostkon> akshay2000, yeah, just keep trying
[15:30] <bee> hi guys, ive been banging my head against my desk for the last few hours trying to get a simple directory share going on my network.  i
[15:30] <bee> *ive got ubuntu on my desktop, and i want to share a directory over the lan to my raspbian based pi
[15:30] <jrib> bee: right click -> share
[15:30] <akshay2000> KeyboardNotFound: You should be able to do that.
[15:30] <bee> ive been trying to get samba share running, but with no luck
[15:31] <jrib> bee: does it have to be over nfs?
[15:31] <akshay2000> KeyboardNotFound: Why do you need swap at all, by the way?
[15:31] <KeyboardNotFound> akshay2000, I have only 1 gb ram :(
[15:31] <bee> jrib, ive heard nfs is the best way to do it, but im quite a noob when it comes to these things
[15:31] <jrib> bee: if samba is ok, then you can just right click on the directory and share it
[15:32] <akshay2000> KeyboardNotFound: I see! Well, yeah, you should be able to do that.
[15:32] <jrib> bee: that should work unless you have a firewall rule blocking it
[15:32] <KeyboardNotFound> akshay2000, how you see that i have only 1 gb ram ? :P
[15:32] <akshay2000> KeyboardNotFound: Don't expect the RAM like performance, though.
[15:32] <bee> jrib, hmm, it could be the firewall that's borking it actually - just got myself a new belkin router, im not too familiar with it
[15:32] <akshay2000> KeyboardNotFound: I saw it after you wrote it! :P
[15:33] <KeyboardNotFound> akshay2000, haha :)
[15:33] <KeyboardNotFound> akshay2000, thank yo uvery much
[15:33] <jrib> bee: you should be able to see the share locally over samba on the machine you're sharing from I think
[15:33] <akshay2000> bee: What's the problem exactly?
[15:33] <akshay2000> bee: Try to do is using CLI.
[15:33] <akshay2000> bee: What does testparm -s say?
[15:34] <bee> one sec, im just re-installing samba to see if that will help - i may have borked my config ;)
[15:34] <bee> and, ofc, have to restart - brb!
[15:35] <bee> akshay2000, jrib this is the error im getting 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "bee" to a SID. NT_STATUS_NONE_MAPPED.
[15:35] <jrib> bee: you're getting this error when you do what?
[15:36] <bee> when i try to share the folder using the method  you suggested - right click, sharing options
[15:36] <jrib> bee: and is this the full output?
[15:36] <bee> yea
[15:36] <akshay2000> bee: really, do it manuall by editing smb.conf
[15:36] <akshay2000> Much less of an headache.
[15:37] <akshay2000> Also, bee, just check out any tutorial for RPi and samba and follow the procedure on your desktop.
[15:37] <jrib> bee: you're using the default smb.conf?
[15:37] <bee> akshay2000, i have been doing, but with zilch success.  i follow everything and it says "you should now be able to browse your share" and ofc i cant!
[15:38] <akshay2000> You may need to add user to smb explicitly.
[15:38] <neyder_> have anyone installed in preseed way an oem lot?
[15:38] <akshay2000> Tutorial at howtogeek helped me.
[15:39] <bee> akshay2000, ill give that one a look and see if i can reset my smb.conf
[15:40] <bee> akshay2000, turns out the tutorial i was following was the howtogeek one
[15:41] <HypnotiX> Hello, does anyone know a good guide to install windows next to my existing ubuntu
[15:42] <jrib> bee: with a default smb.conf, right clicking should work.  Maybe you need to be in the "sambashare" group too, but I'm not sure.  Ensure these two things are true.
[15:42] <Ari-Yang> HypnotiX, I can google for you and find countless guides, so you should do so, google around.
[15:43] <HypnotiX> well i thought there was a best guide that you can guys can link me too :)
[15:43] <bee> jrib, thanks, i shall give a fresh conf a go
[15:44] <bee> is nfs any easier to set up?
[15:44] <jrib> bee: this is easy to set up
[15:44] <jrib> bee: it's right click -> share
[15:44] <bee> oki, well, guess to get a fresh conf i have to uninstall, reboot and reinstall
[15:44] <bee> cause just reinstalling didn't give me a default config
[15:45] <bwayne> HypnotiX: you can always just resize your partitions via gparted (or others) and then simply install Windows. Install EasyBCD, add the Ubuntu Partition.
[15:45] <P_Kable> Hello
[15:45] <jrib> bee: you would need to purge the package and then install again.  If that wants to remove half your system, don't do it that way
[15:46] <Dacs> Good morning folks, i have been trying to get Ubuntu 13.4 on am AMD FX8350 8 core, 16 GB RAM, 970A-G43 mobo, 128 GB SSD GeForce 8400 GS with Dual monitor 17" each. when i boot my box it takes ~4 min from bios screen to ubuntu login screen
[15:46] <jrib> Dacs: you can install and analyze bootchart
[15:46] <HypnotiX> ok i will try
[15:47] <bee> jrib, thanks, i hadnt thought to purge
[15:47] <bee> brb
[15:47] <Dacs> jrib: what is that please
[15:47] <jrib> !info bootchart | Dacs
[15:47] <bwayne> HypnotiX: if you have difficulties once you install EasyBCD, install Hexchat and come back. I should be here.
[15:47] <HypnotiX> i will probably boot into linux with the live cd
[15:47] <P_Kable> I'm having some issue. I suddenly cannot boot properly, the grub part goes well but once it gets to X I have a mouse pointer and a blinking cursor with a black screen, I'm running RARING. I must stop/start lightdm to retrieve my desktop. It worked just fine before the last update/ or / the installation/uninstall of compiz. Any help would be appreciated.
[15:47] <Dacs> jrib: and what will that tell me
[15:47] <bwayne> HypnotiX: yeah.  and then update grub.
[15:48] <jrib> Dacs: why your boot is taking 4 minutes
[15:48] <Dacs> jrib: where can i download it
[15:48] <Dacs> and how to use it
[15:48] <jrib> !software | Dacs
[15:48] <Dacs> is it a live cd
[15:49] <jrib> Dacs: use your favorite package manager.  It's a package in the repositories
[15:49] <Dacs> ahhh okay
[15:49] <crypticmofo> hi all .. i have a question .. i have a lenova twist its a ultrabook that has the mouse in the middle of the keyboard trackpad whatever .. problem is when i was using the live dvd the mouse was fine .. when i installed ubuntu the mouse stuttered and it didn't act right .. is there a fix for this ?
[15:51] <SteveBell> is there a wiki describing how to add programs under ubuntu 12 in the session startup? this is only for 11 and below: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[15:51] <jrib> SteveBell: did you try what it says there?  There is no such thing as ubuntu "12" by the way, there's 12.04 and 12.10
[15:52] <SteveBell> jrib: I know. well 12.04 here. but anyways I don't know how to get the appropriate command
[15:52] <Yii1> hi
[15:52] <SteveBell> The following paragraph assumes your desktop environment uses Gnome 2. If you are using Ubuntu 11.04 or newer, then by default you are not using Gnome 2, and this procedure will not work.
[15:52] <AiwaBRA> I am creating a website, where the people's can send your books
[15:52] <jrib> SteveBell: I think that's gnome-session-properties?
[15:52] <jrib> !enter | AiwaBRA
[15:53] <AiwaBRA> !enter
[15:53] <SteveBell> jrib: don't know. so in the example they use "evolution --component=mail"
[15:53] <jrib> SteveBell: what is your question?
[15:53] <SteveBell> so if I want to autostart xbmc do I just enter xbmc?
[15:54] <bwayne> SteveBell: if you use Unity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/48321/how-do-i-start-applications-automatically-on-login
[15:54] <jrib> SteveBell: sure, but I'd recommend giving the full path.  You want to start the xbmc program as soon as your user logs in?
[15:54] <SteveBell> y
[15:54] <SteveBell> it's all I use that netbook for so every startup should launch it
[15:55] <jrib> SteveBell: ok
[15:55] <bwayne> SteveBell: there's also ~/.config/autostart from command line. The link I provided above shows an example of an entry.
[15:56] <SteveBell> ok just using the application name seems to work fine
[15:57] <SteveBell> it would be much more intuitive, if the user where presented with a list of applications instead of a command (that is if ubuntu wants to go mainstream of course)
[15:57] <Dacs> jrib: i installed bootchart and when i boot i get grub prompt now?!
[15:58] <jrib> Dacs: that shouldn't be the case
[15:58] <SteveBell> ok jrip thanks for your help.
[15:58] <bee> jrib, ive uninstalled, purged, reinstalled samba.  ive started with a fresh smb.conf, yet i still get this same error when trying to share a directory
[15:58] <Dacs> jrib: exactly , so am not sure what is going on here
[15:58] <jrib> bee: is your user in the sambashare group?
[15:59] <jrib> Dacs: is this a fresh install?  How did you install?  Did you have to do anything "interesting"?
[15:59] <bee> jrib, sorry excuse my noobness, im not sure how i would find that out
[15:59] <akshay20002> bee: So, what does your testparm -s say?
[15:59] <jrib> bee: type "groups" in a shell
[15:59] <Dacs> jrib: fresh install , down loaded from web and burnt iso to dvd
[16:00] <Dacs> jrib: 13.04 ubuntu amd 64 desktop
[16:00] <bee> akshay2000, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6079715/
[16:00] <bee> jrib, bee@bee-P5E:~$ groups
[16:00] <bee> bee adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[16:01] <jrib> bee: then your user is in the sambashare group.  Paste the error you get
[16:01] <akshay20002> bee: There's no share!
[16:01] <akshay20002> There's just global and printers.
[16:01] <bee> akshay2000, thats the problem, i cant get it to add a share
[16:01] <akshay20002> You should create share, bee!
[16:01] <akshay20002> Did you add it in smb.conf, bee?
[16:01] <bee> jrib, the error i get when trying to add a share is 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "bee" to a SID. NT_STATUS_NONE_MAPPED.
[16:02] <bee> akshay2000, no, the advice i was given was to do it through the gui
[16:02] <akshay20002> :\ Who'd advice GUI! It must be only for the ease! bee.
[16:02] <grendal-prime> bee...are you trying to set up samba?
[16:03] <bee> akshay2000, jrib advised me so
[16:03] <akshay20002> I'n sure, jrib said that just for the ease, bee.
[16:03] <bee> grendal-prime, yeah, to mount a dir on my ubuntu desktop on my pi (running raspbian)
[16:03] <jgk> hi akshay2000
[16:04] <akshay20002> If you don't have any Windows Machines, you probably could mount a folder over FTP or SSH!
[16:04] <akshay20002> jgk, hi!
[16:04] <jgk> plz reply
[16:04] <akshay20002> jgk: About what?
[16:05] <jgk> to my message
[16:05] <jhave> Hello
[16:05] <jhave> how do i complete reinstall my mysql-server ?
[16:06] <jhave> and remove all databases ?
[16:07] <jhave> I have removed my root user :(
[16:07] <jrib> jhave: purge the relevant packages (you probably need to purge one of it's dependencies (maybe the one with "common" in the name)) and then reinstall
[16:07] <jrib> jhave: what do you mean by "I have removed my root user"?
[16:07] <jhave> jrib, i have removed it by a fail :(
[16:07] <jrib> jhave: what is "it"?
[16:08] <jhave> jrib, the root user
[16:08] <jrib> jhave: the operating system's root user?
[16:08] <jhave> no the mysql root user
[16:08] <akshay20002> bee: Here's my share http://paste.ubuntu.com/6079751/
[16:08] <jrib> jhave: ok
[16:10] <jhave> Is there a way to clean all mysql data
[16:10] <jrib> jhave: I just told you how to do what you asked
[16:10] <denker> how can I copy files from a windows machine running a ssh server to my ubuntu machine?
[16:10] <jrib> denker: scp
[16:11] <denker> it says scp dosen't exsists
[16:11] <jrib> denker: what is "it"?
[16:12] <denker> jrib the command prompt. mu ubuntu machine is connected to windows
[16:12] <jrib> denker: install the openssh-client package on your ubuntu machine
[16:12] <Dacs> jrib: imagebin.org/270255
[16:12] <grendal-prime> what is rasbian?
[16:13] <denker> :jrib so just do it the other way around
[16:13] <jrib> grendal-prime: you mean raspbian?
[16:13] <jhave> what is the best desktop dist ubuntu vs mint ?
[16:13] <jrib> denker: what?
[16:13] <akshay20002> jhave: Wouldn't matter. Subjective.
[16:13] <denker> jrib: nvm
[16:14] <gnuweb> jhave depends on what your needs are
[16:14] <OerHeks> jhave mint is slower.
[16:14] <jrib> Dacs: bootchart shows the boot taking 50s, is that correct?
[16:14] <grendal-prime> like newer release testing or something?
[16:14] <akshay20002> OerHeks: mint didn't really run slower for me. Hardware?
[16:15] <jrib> !ot
[16:15] <grendal-prime> jrib, im assuming its a testing or non lts release
[16:16] <Dacs> jrib: noooooo. it take ~4min every single time
[16:16] <jrib> grendal-prime: raspbian is just an operating system based on debian meant for use on raspberry pi
[16:16] <antz> you can put ubuntu on rasp pi
[16:16] <awaad> I have Ubuntu installed on my Laptop and it is connected to my WIFI Access Internet.
[16:17] <antz> okay awaad
[16:17] <awaad> My /etc/resolv.conf doesn't contain any record except "nameserver 127.0.0.1"
[16:17] <grendal-prime> what is raspberry pi?
[16:17] <grendal-prime> nevermind i dont really want to know
[16:17] <antz> micro controller
[16:17] <antz> sort of
[16:17] <antz> kinda like arduino
[16:17] <antz> lil bit
[16:17] <akshay20002> grendal-prime: REALLY? You don;t know that?
[16:17] <awaad> But I can connect to websites normally. I thought that /etc/resolv.conf should contain my DNS server.
[16:18] <grendal-prime> android os?
[16:18] <antz> no
[16:18] <awaad> Any one can tell me the reason of working fine although configuration of /etc/resolv.conf is bad?
[16:18] <grendal-prime> sounds like there nameing convintion.
[16:18] <antz> its not using /etc/resolv.conf
[16:18] <akshay20002> awaad: networkmanager has it's own stuff.
[16:19] <akshay20002> awaad: even if you change resolv.conf, it will probably be overwritten.
[16:19] <grendal-prime> mini motherboard of some sort looks like
[16:19] <antz> ^
[16:19] <antz> ppl usually put
[16:19] <antz> linux and xbmc
[16:20] <jrib> awaad: 127.0.0.1 is correct.  If you check, you'll see have dnsmasq running
[16:20] <antz> and hook it up to tv
[16:20] <wilee-nilee> !enter | antz
[16:20] <antz> and use it with NAS or whatever
[16:20] <antz> like appletv
[16:21] <awaad> jrib: Yes it is running. What is its function?
[16:21] <grendal-prime> 40 buck gumstic computer looks like.
[16:21] <jrib> awaad: dns :D
[16:21] <grendal-prime> antz arm has the power to run as a nas?
[16:21] <Dacs> jrib: any suggestuions
[16:21] <grendal-prime> does it have pci-e port on it.?  doesnt look like it
[16:21] <awaad> jrib: So my laptop is working as a forwarding DNS server?
[16:21] <imnichol> If I've got my entire HDD encrypted, is there a way to access the files if I mount my HDD on another computer?
[16:21] <antz> not as a nas but xbmc connects to a nas so you can stream movies
[16:21] <akshay20002> grendal-prime: No@
[16:22] <jrib> Dacs: see how fast it boots if you disable X
[16:22] <akshay20002> grendal-prime: But does have GPIO!
[16:22] <jrib> awaad: not sure what you are asking
[16:22] <grendal-prime> thats to  bad i have pci-e jbod  from sans i could staple the thing to the wall and plug that thing into it make a filler out of it
[16:22] <awaad> Is dnsmasq a DNS client of DNS server?
[16:22] <antz> grendal-prime is a big shot using sans over nas
[16:23] <antz> san*
[16:23] <grendal-prime> i ment the company.
[16:23] <antz> oh ok
[16:23] <grendal-prime> san...nas... what i ment was storage machine.
[16:24] <antz> yes
[16:24] <grendal-prime> i hat haveing to explain the diff to my customers.  i just call it attached storage.
[16:24] <akshay20002> grendal-prime: You can use RPi as NAS!
[16:24] <antz> ^
[16:24] <antz> why would you
[16:24] <grendal-prime> i can think of a few reasons antz
[16:24] <imnichol> If I've got my entire HDD encrypted, is there a way to access the files if I mount my HDD on another computer?
[16:25] <jadron> hello everybody i have some errors when i run mrtgsolutio
[16:25] <grendal-prime> my 2850 is great office warming in the winter but ...i dont really need to run something that big all the time
[16:25] <jadron>  at /usr/share/perl5/SNMP_Session.pm line 60
[16:25] <antz> well in terms of performance...
[16:25] <grendal-prime> cheep...
[16:25] <grendal-prime> i could have a few of those lieing around for when something failed.
[16:26] <antz> not quite sure the specs for RPi but maybe use it as a file server
[16:27] <OerHeks> imnichol, maybe this page is any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[16:27] <akshay20002> antz: I'm using RPi for Samba, CouchPotato, seeding ISOs etc.
[16:28] <imnichol> OerHeks, That only gives specifics for encrypted /home/ folders.  I'm talking about the full disk encryption
[16:29] <antz> imnichol, someone is being naughty?
[16:29] <grendal-prime> antz if it has a gig ether on it i could probably set it up to file serve.  Again back to terminology... filler,nas,san...whatever.
[16:30] <antz> grendal-prime, yeah that would be super nice if they had that
[16:30] <antz> i might go with intel nuc over RPi
[16:30] <imnichol> antz, No, but I'm about to make a potentially destructive change, and I want to make sure I can get at my data if my system won't boot
[16:31] <grendal-prime> i prefer to call it a filer, but i have them do all the auth and perms on the same device.
[16:31] <grendal-prime> intel nuc
[16:31] <grendal-prime> hmm
[16:31] <jrib> denker: did scp not work for you?
[16:31] <antz> well how big is the HDD?
[16:32] <denker> :jrib well Im trying to understand how I copy from my windows drive when I am at the terminal
[16:32] <grendal-prime> antz  for my filer?
[16:32] <antz> sorry that wa for imnichol
[16:33] <jrib> denker: what is the ssh server you are running?
[16:33] <imnichol> antz, couple hundred gigs
[16:33] <denker> :jrib openssh, using putty to connect
[16:33] <jrib> denker: didn't you say you were running the server on windows?
[16:33] <grendal-prime> i need one of these small mb's with pci-e
[16:34] <Sicno> I just installed ubuntu 12.04.3 on a machine but it can't shut down normally. It hangs out forever. It can reboot with no problem at all though.
[16:34] <denker> jrib: yeah but didn't you tell me to have the server on my ubuntu machine? scp didn't work
[16:34] <jrib> denker: I never said for you to put the server on ubuntu
[16:34] <LinuxGold> how do I share live terminal with someone else?
[16:34] <grendal-prime> Sicno, why would you want to turn it off..  all mine are on all the time
[16:34] <grendal-prime> hehehe
[16:35] <denker> :jrib oki, my misstake
[16:35] <LinuxGold> I remmy doing that back in old days -- forgot what utility was used
[16:35] <grendal-prime> Sicno,  thats a feature not a bug.
[16:35] <jrib> denker: so now you have an ssh server on both the windows machine and on ubuntu?
[16:35] <antz> imnichol not quite sure. just decrypt them?????
[16:35] <Sicno> it's not my own pc, it's for an old lady. And sorry but no kidding matter.
[16:35] <Dacs> jrib: same thing, do i need to install the driver from my mobo msi 970a-g43
[16:35] <bastidrazor> LinuxGold: probably 'screen'
[16:35] <denker> :jrib I turned off the serveron my windows machine
[16:35] <grendal-prime> sounds like a acpi issue Sicno
[16:35] <jrib> Dacs: don't know
[16:36] <jrib> denker: well you can use something like wincscp on windows now to interact with the ubuntu ssh server
[16:36] <grendal-prime> Sicno, http://askubuntu.com/questions/125844/shutdown-does-not-power-off-computer
[16:36] <Sicno> well, I had to set acpi=off for it to boot, otherwise I would get an error and it wouldn't boot at all
[16:37] <intore> hi guys, i need to write a script that permits to run onboard instead of florence when booting a pc without keyboard, could you help me please?
[16:37] <denker> :jrib the thing is I can't copy files to my esxi virtual machine using winscp or it's just me dosen't knwo how to.
[16:37] <grendal-prime> Sicno, does it have nvidia video?
[16:37] <denker> :jrib I have tried winscp, but can't get it to the machine only to esxi
[16:37] <jrib> denker: you're introducing something new now; before there was just a windows machine and an ubuntu machine
[16:38] <Sicno> I'm not sure but I think it's intel
[16:38] <antz> denker: openvpn! ssh tunnel!
[16:38] <denker> yeah, my ubuntu server machine is on my esxi computer
[16:39] <grendal-prime> Sicno, try the shutdown from command line
[16:39] <grendal-prime> see what sort of output you get
[16:39] <denker> :antz okey will look into that. never thought I would have so much trubble tranfering some files
[16:39] <grendal-prime> shutdown now -h
[16:39] <antz> denker: you shouldnt :(
[16:39] <Sicno> you sure that's the command?
[16:40] <grendal-prime> and drop to the shell (crtl+alt+f1)  and then run that
[16:40] <grendal-prime> ya i run shutdown now -h  about 30 times a day...pretty sure that will do it
[16:40] <antz> i user poweroff
[16:40] <Sicno> ...
[16:41] <Sicno> ...I'm starting to think you're trolling me
[16:41] <denker> :antz but it dosenät work using winscp? cant find any information online
[16:41] <HelloWorld3211> so when you update software through the Update Manager (gui), does it stop halfway thru, for you to read the changelog, but doesn't show the changelog until you expand the "Details" tab to see why it stopped?
[16:41] <crypticmofo> hi all .. i have a question .. i have a lenova twist its a ultrabook that has the mouse in the middle of the keyboard trackpad whatever .. problem is when i was using the live dvd the mouse was fine .. when i installed ubuntu the mouse stuttered and it didn't act right .. is there a fix for this ?
[16:41] <jrib> denker: you need to get into the situation where you can actually establish an ssh connection from one machine to another
[16:41] <antz> well denker, let me ask you this. winscp uses which port?
[16:42] <grendal-prime> 22 it uses the same port as ssh
[16:42] <grendal-prime> it is ssh..
[16:42] <antz> scp uses ssh?
[16:42] <grendal-prime> its file transmission over ssh
[16:42] <grendal-prime> yes
[16:42] <antz> then prob the firewall isnt open for ssh
[16:42] <Sicno> "poweroff" doesn't work
[16:42] <antz> some linux dont have it opened as default
[16:43] <grendal-prime> none of the distros have the server installed by default now ither
[16:43] <grendal-prime> you have to apt-get install ssh-server
[16:43] <denker> :antz but I have no problem connecting to my server with winscp. I can transfer files but not into my virtual machine, or I dosen't know how.
[16:43] <antz> yeah
[16:43] <antz> ohhhhh
[16:43] <antz> how is your virtual machine configured then
[16:43] <grendal-prime> you virutal machine..
[16:43] <mcl0vin> how do i know which X i am using
[16:44] <grendal-prime> is it brideged network of nated?
[16:44] <MaynardW1ters> hi, I am getting a message that says the required kernal is pae
[16:44] <HelloWorld3211> mcl0vin: I discovered this morning that theres a log file in your var directory that says ....
[16:44] <antz> Sicno, it doesnt??!? whats wrong with yours :D
[16:44] <MaynardW1ters> I thought that 12.04 and 13 should have their x86 workable without pae
[16:44] <Sicno> I wish I knew  u_u
[16:45] <grendal-prime> denker,  what is the vm host type.
[16:45] <_JuJuBee> Which tablet will run ubuntu natively?  I would like to get one that I can install ubuntu on.
[16:45] <HelloWorld3211> mcl0vin: try "more /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log"; might need sudo
[16:45] <denker> :antz I am using vsphere on my windows machine
[16:45] <grendal-prime> yuck
[16:45] <grendal-prime> well...
[16:45] <antz> ew
[16:46] <grendal-prime> can you ping the guest ip from the host network
[16:46] <HelloWorld3211> actually, mcl0vin: some folks would grep that file for "started", or tail it
[16:46] <Sicno> sudo shutdown now -h doesn't work either
[16:46] <oscar> My screen goes crazy when I try to suspend my laptop or close the lid? The screen suddenly is filled with random colours and I can only stop it by turning my laptop on and off. The OS seems to be working fine, I just cant see anything when I suspend xD any help? Im on Ubuntu version 13.04
[16:47] <grendal-prime> Sicno, does it hang ...whats the output of that command...i would be very amazed if ....
[16:47] <HelloWorld3211> mcl0vin: sudo grep /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log "Starting session"
[16:47] <Sicno> I get to the purple screen with the white "ubuntu" and dots and it hangs out forever
[16:47] <denker> grendal-prime: you mean which esxi version I am running? using esxi 5.1
[16:48] <grendal-prime> did you drop to the f1 terminal screen first?
[16:48] <HelloWorld3211> ick, sorry.  that might not work so good ... mine says "ubuntu", kinda vague answer
[16:48] <grendal-prime> before issueing that command?
[16:48] <darkelfjuggalo> I need to upgrade GIMP, but the version I need Ubuntu does not have in any of the repository... can someone tell me if this is a safe alternative? http://www.itworld.com/software/362351/install-gimp-286-ubuntu-1304
[16:48] <antz> im gonna go afk. ppl are having too much trouble
[16:48] <szahrat> nop
[16:48] <antz> on sunday
[16:48] <grendal-prime> ya sundays i think are pretty crazy here
[16:49] <oscar> Really weird how I cant suspend or close my laptop without Ubuntu having a screen spasm
[16:49] <Sicno> grendal-prime: if by f1 you mean if I was running the terminal yes I was. If you mean I have to summon the terminal in a particular way then I don't know
[16:50] <grendal-prime> Sicno,   if you run that from a windowed terminal that is the same as slecting the shutdown from a button.  now.. there are 6 terminals you can use outside of the X
[16:50] <mcl0vin> it does not show which X you are using
[16:51] <grendal-prime> (ctrl +alt) while holding them down press the F1 key
[16:51] <grendal-prime> you will dropx and have a pure terminal.
[16:51] <grendal-prime> black screen....and just so you knwo..to get back to the desktop do the sam thing but use F7
[16:52] <grendal-prime> once you have droped to that pure terminal..run that command it should show you the entire shutdown as its happening.
[16:52] <grendal-prime> if it hangs..you should see why it is haning cause it will stop there.
[16:53] <bwayne> i think i've been bozoed.
[16:53] <Sicno> ok, I tried that and it's the same thing
[16:53] <denker> :grendal-prime I need to configure my host to transfer files to virtual machines?
[16:54] <Sicno> and the thing is that it's hanging at the purple screen wuth the ubuntu letters and the white dots that change to orange, so I don't get to see why it's hanging out at that particular moment
[16:55] <xvzf> hi there, the login window of my ubuntu 13.04 exhibits sounds, but when I log in, I cannot hear any. The volume is at 100%. Where else could it be muted?
[16:55] <grendal-prime> denker, if you ant access to the guests, then you need to A create a bridged network that will put them on the same network as the host(probably pretty easy)  B set up source nating that will direct traffic on spcific ports to guest machines on the inside. (more complicated and im not sure how to do ip forwarding with windows..or source natting...or...well alot of other stuff)
[16:55] <kexibq> hey guys, anyone have an idea of how I can put music on my iphone? I thought about using virtualbox but my connection won't allow me to use torrents. So I cannot obtain the ISO
[16:56] <grendal-prime> windows is kinda...well actually very stupid when it comes to those sorts of things.
[16:56] <grendal-prime> something else..if the guest is ubuntu...or just linux and you are trying to scp to it you will need to have ssh-server installed on it.
[16:58] <denker> :grendalprime I have a windows ssh-server and connected with my virtualmachine but scp dosen't work on windows
[16:58] <denker> grendal-prime: scp command
[16:58] <grendal-prime> personally denker if you are doing this to learn vitualization i would go with virutal box...or better (for server environments)  KVM but..you realy need to study up on network design cause this will requre some serious basic understanding of whats envolved with that.
[16:58] <mcl0vin> my dmesg is filled with "AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT device=00:14.4 domain=0x000e address=0x0000000000001000 flags=0x0000]" is this normal?!!
[16:59] <mcl0vin> jrib, ^^
[16:59] <grendal-prime> scp on windows will requre putty..if you have winscp on windows it will install all nessary libs.  winscp is a product name that usess scp to trancmit files
[16:59] <grendal-prime> over ssh.
[17:00] <grendal-prime> scp is a pgram not a protocol
[17:00] <grendal-prime> it uses ssh wich uses port 22 to transmit files.
[17:00] <denker> :grendal-prime ye, I think I am going to give up. been messing with this all day. thanks for the help
[17:00] <Sicno> I'm going to try with acpi=force now
[17:01] <grendal-prime> np ..sorry i couldnt be of better assistance...this is what i do most of the day..(virt infrastructure)  but just throwing something together quickly..requres some early on learning .
[17:01] <compdoc> mcl0vin, you using pass-thru to vm guests?
[17:02] <mcl0vin> compdoc, ,what do u mean?
[17:03] <compdoc> mcl0vin, hmm, well are you running kvm or other VM software?
[17:03] <HelloWorld3211> mcl0vin: where is this dmesg?
[17:03] <Physicist> Greetings. Which is the exactely difference between compile ATI driver and create especific driver package a.k.a. 'fglrx...
[17:03] <Physicist> ??
[17:04] <mcl0vin> this box
[17:06] <Physicist> Which is the exactely difference between compile ATI driver and create especific driver package a.k.a. 'fglrx'?
[17:06] <grnt> Will Canonical continue to ship X server after 13.10 release?
[17:07] <denker> grendal-rime: ye trying to learn virtualization, you know any good site with information and forum?
[17:08] <denker> grendal-prime: ye trying to learn virtualization, you know any good site with information and forum?
[17:08] <polaco> hello guys, i want to setup a proper VPN on my personal vm so  can use it to have secure internet acces when on public networks. What softwares are good for running it?
[17:09] <FlyOnZeWall> I hear OpenVPN is alright
[17:09] <polaco> OpenVPN, right, will look into it
[17:09] <polaco> :)
[17:10] <bazhang> denker, #vbox on this network
[17:17] <kimda> hi. i am trying to complile a program but am getting the following error:  error: too many arguments to function ‘ptp_clock_register’
[17:18] <grnt> Will Canonical continue to ship X server after 13.10 release?
[17:23] <raub> In 12.04LTS, if I am doing static IP, /etc/resolv.conf should not be changed by the system, right?
[17:25] <ijusthaveaquesti> hey, i have a question. I cant figure out how the address bus correlates to memory. I see that a 16 bit address bus correlates to 64,000 bytes of memory, or 64KB ... but i cant find how this is calculated. can anyone help me with this?
[17:27] <ChogyDan> grnt: yes
[17:27] <grnt> ChogyDan: Thanks.
[17:28] <Marlenee> how i convert 7z file to tar.gz ??
[17:28] <grnt> ijusthaveaquesti: 64 * 1024. 65535 is a maximum value a 16-bit wide decimal can hold
[17:28] <Dacs> okay i gave up i will uninstall ubuntu and install windows instead
[17:31] <researcher> when I double click start-tor-browser it open a text file instead of executing.what to do?
[17:35] <researcher> how to make a file run instead of opening as text file?
[17:40] <oskurot> heya
[17:41] <oskurot> I'm pretty sure my desktop manager loads twice and this gives me two unity 3d when I log in
[17:41] <oskurot> I've been googling it but I can't seem to find anything relevant
[17:42] <bazhang> screenshot please oskurot
[17:42] <minetape> anyone know where i can find a 32 bit version of ubuntu server 13.04?
[17:43] <Ben64> minetape: ubuntu.com
[17:43]  * minetape facepalm
[17:44] <oskurot> bazhang: hold on, not sure where to upload it
[17:44] <Ben64> oskurot: imgur.com or imagebin
[17:45] <kostkon> minetape, here you go http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/   also on ubuntu.com/download
[17:46] <oskurot> http://imagebin.org/270262
[17:46] <sudormrf_> Hey. I am trying to install 13.04 on my Windows 8 machine, but it does not seem to recognize either my live dvd or live usb as a bootable device. Please help!
[17:46] <oskurot> Ben64: thanks
[17:46] <sudormrf_> ... and, yes, I am using the 64 bit version.
[17:46] <minetape> why does server have to be much smaller?
[17:46] <minetape> only 648MB?
[17:46] <oskurot> sudormrf_: uefi bios?
[17:47] <mcuringa> #wikiotics
[17:47] <kostkon> minetape, it doesn't come with a gui
[17:47] <minetape> ...
[17:47] <minetape> no desktop?
[17:47] <kostkon> nope
[17:47] <sudormrf_> oskurot: Yes, unfortunately.
[17:47] <minetape> D:
[17:48] <sudormrf_> oskurot: I have turned of secure booting....
[17:48] <Ben64> servers don't have graphics
[17:48] <minetape> then how do i play minecraft throught it?
[17:48] <kostkon> minetape, you cain install one afterwards
[17:48] <Ben64> minetape: normally you'd not play minecraft on a server, you'd host a server on the server, and that doesn't need graphics still
[17:48] <SupaYoshi> Hi ive got a question regarding apache2 and php. :) I had an old server and I ran Apache2 and Php as user www-data, now my directory was owned by root, since i used sudo apt-get install to install them.. I forgot how to change the users to www-data. Also, I want to run my phpmyadmin as https
[17:48] <kostkon> minetape, host or play?
[17:48] <minetape> both
[17:49] <Ben64> then you might as well get the desktop version
[17:49] <SupaYoshi> But when i forced ssl in my phpmyadmin it didnt work anymore. so i had to undo it.
[17:49] <kostkon> minetape, then you would need to install a desktop environment
[17:49] <sudormrf_> oskurot: The bios, though is InsydeH20 Setup utility -- so it does not give me the option to disable fast boot and whatnot :-/
[17:49] <minetape> downloading it now
[17:49] <SupaYoshi> Im quite unsure on how to do it again all. does anybody have some help or a good link?
[17:49] <kostkon> minetape, yeah just get the desktop version
[17:49] <iUnify> Hey guys I can't find many of the apps that I've installed under their correct catigoties - using the  FILTER tab of the Ubuntu Search.... I've got alacarte but that doesn't work - when I make the changes they do not appear under the correct tab under filters, they are just then available to be SEARCHED.  I would like to see a full LIST of my installed apps that I can click the icon to and open the app.  THis is because I can not memor
[17:49] <iUnify> Audio Production wares.
[17:50] <sudormrf_> oskurot: I have also tried booting from the EFI file on the live disk -- but no dice.
[17:50] <SupaYoshi> ah nvm.. i found it for apache2.
[17:50] <SupaYoshi> but not for ssl.
[17:52] <oskurot> sudormrf_: sounds weird. I'm sorry to say I have no good experiences with uefi either
[17:53] <oskurot> sudormrf_: may sound silly but have you checked the boot order? I've seen win8 machines with cd and usb on the bottom of the boot order
[17:54] <sudormrf_> oskurot: Yeah, I have checked the boot order. :-(
[17:54] <minetape> is server supposed to run servers better?
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> So whats the fsck frequency in 13.04?
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> still every 30 boots?
[18:05] <kostkon> wilee-nilee, i think it has been turned off. from 12.04 onwards?  i may be wrong
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> kostkon, I think your right I never see it.
[18:05] <kostkon> wilee-nilee, same here
[18:07] <siva> how to block websites in ubuntu 13.04
[18:10] <bazhang> !info dansguardian | Guest64955
[18:12] <tozen> hi all! having a problem using dd command to wright iso image on usb drive dd if=/home/tozen/soft/AirSlaxFull_3_0.iso of=/dev/sdb1 as result having http://paste.ubuntu.com/6080241/ thx for any advise
[18:15] <Sicno> while trying to find a solution for not being able to turn off the pc, which seems to be related to the acpi=off parameter I NEED to set in order to boot, I got to this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI  , followed it and it turns out acpi=off boots and acpi=ht doesn't. What now?
[18:15] <r0b-> what the helll.... i JUST Installed Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and it has the 3.8 kernel?
[18:15] <r0b-> does that even make sense?
[18:15] <kostkon> r0b-, yes
[18:16] <r0b-> but my Kubuntu desktop wont go past 3.2 and it is ALSO 12.0.3 :o
[18:16] <kostkon> r0b-, dont forget that 12.04 comes with 2y of hardwrae support:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[18:16] <xangua> there was a factoid fot that
[18:17] <iUnify> Hey guys I can't find many of the apps that I've installed under their correct catigoties - using the  FILTER tab of the Ubuntu Search.... I've got alacarte but that doesn't work - when I make the changes they do not appear under the correct tab under filters, they are just then available to be SEARCHED.  I would like to see a full LIST of my installed apps that I can click the icon to and open the app.  THis is because I can not memor
[18:17] <cowbacon> Sicno: if you find a solution please forward it to me too. I can't fully shut down my server with shutdown -P now, it stops after all signals are terminated in the machine
[18:17] <iUnify> audio production wares
[18:17] <kostkon> r0b-, kubuntu is not an LTS as far as i know
[18:17] <r0b-> so BASICALLY the kernel will keep updating?
[18:17] <r0b-> neat.
[18:18] <Sicno> ok, I will but I hope I can find something :( but I don't think I'll find anything by myself, I don't know much about linux
[18:18] <Sicno> hence why I'm here
[18:18] <r0b-> thank you kostkon
[18:18] <kostkon> r0b-, np
[18:18]  * r0b- was like "wtf i just installed 12.04.3 64bit where did this 3.8 crap come from"
[18:19] <polaco> guys, some scripts have a special comment in the head lines like # -*- mode: ruby -*-     What is the name of this string header? Wanted to understand it more
[18:20] <polaco> i see also this one that i use a lot on python scripts: # -*- coding: UTF-8 -*-
[18:21] <cloudy_nz> polaco, hashbang line?
[18:21] <jrib> polaco: that's language-specific.
[18:22] <polaco> well it is close to hashbang, but hashbang is for telling which interpreter
[18:22] <polaco> jrib: indeed, but sounds like a convention or something. Saw in more than one language
[18:22] <jrib> polaco: sure
[18:23] <polaco> google sux at searching language syntax
[18:23] <polaco> cant find anything on -*-, even on verbatin
[18:23] <jrib> polaco: symbolhound.com perhaps
[18:23] <tsimpson> polaco: it's part of the python spec
[18:24] <polaco> tsimpson: indeed, but its a convention also as i look into it
[18:24] <polaco> because this: # -*- coding: UTF-8 -*-
[18:24] <tsimpson> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/
[18:24] <polaco> python understand
[18:24] <polaco> but this # -*- mode: ruby -*-
[18:24] <polaco> editors use to understand that it is ruby
[18:24] <jrib> polaco: it's just a convention used by emacs from what I gather.
[18:24] <polaco> oh
[18:24] <polaco> its from emacs
[18:24] <polaco> interesting
[18:25]  * polaco extra point pushing to learn emacs
[18:25] <polaco> indeed
[18:26] <polaco> thats an emacs tag
[18:26] <jrib> polaco: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Specifying-File-Variables.html
[18:26] <cloudy_nz> my brain exploded trying to learn 3 million keyboards shortcuts in emacs
[18:26] <polaco> that some languages also use to understand it, like python encoding
[18:26] <polaco> jrib: thx! thats it!
[18:29] <marloshouse> i have two monitors, one of them is locked up, can't click on anything... what's the best way to reset it without rebooting and shutting everything down
[18:32] <AcidRain2012> theres something wrong with my sound. there is clipping in the music
[18:32] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:33] <AcidRain2012> i got a msg a few days ago after my format after my stupid chmod fail. said somethinga bout the sound drivers
[18:33] <cloudy_nz> marloshouse, I never found the answer to that in using ubuntu for 2.5 years full-time at work. Always had to reboot :(
[18:34] <marloshouse> crap
[18:34] <marloshouse> not sure what causes it, not sure how to fix it
[18:34] <marloshouse> though, farting around with it one afternoon when i had the time i managed to get it unlocked, not sure what the secret was
[18:35] <marloshouse> i am running windows-vm so somehow i think it's somehow linked to that
[18:35] <cloudy_nz> you probably have to be a professor of XOrg or Unity to solve it :-/
[18:37] <Sicno> if I try to boot normally I get this error and can't boot  http://imgur.com/H9Y0tQU  , if I set acpi=off I can boot but the pc won't power off (it can restart though). Any ideas?
[18:37] <dtcrshr> Hello! I have this notebook with win7 for gaming and ubuntu for regular use. As spected the windows install didnt took too much to be unusable, So I installed again over it, but lost the grub then. Following the ubuntu guide to boot up a live session to fix it, but as I try to boot from the usb stick I get a repeated line: udevd[125]: timeout: killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci'HUGENUMBER' [123]
[18:38] <dtcrshr> this trying to boot, check the iso for failures and other options
[18:38] <sha1sum> My Google skills are turning up nada on this one: anybody experience static issues with audio via vanilla Chrome (e.g., not Chromium)?
[18:39] <SupaYoshi> i got a question regarding to ssl cert. I gave my computer a certificate install of my certificate, for HOMESRV. Now I still get a warning, since my FQDN hostname is HOMESRV.lan
[18:39] <SupaYoshi> How can I fix this so i dont get the error anymore? :D
[18:39] <sha1sum> Multiple sources, multiple methods (flash, HTML5, etc.)
[18:39] <Sicno> the iso is ok and I can boot with no problems with it on my pc, but on the pc I'm installing it into (not mine) it's not working
[18:40] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: change the cert
[18:40] <SupaYoshi> sha1sum, inside the cert? or on the server? :D
[18:40] <SupaYoshi> how would i do that? :O
[18:40] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: sorry, by "change the cert" I really mean "reissue the cert"
[18:40] <Fyodorovna> dtcrshr, I would start with a sum check of the iso
[18:41] <SupaYoshi> sha1sum, sure :D But how would that help?
[18:41] <SupaYoshi> I didnt change the hostname of the server, just when i type hostname
[18:41] <sha1sum> The cert should have the FQDN
[18:42] <SupaYoshi> When i type hostname i get HOMESRV. When i type hostname -fqn i get HOMESRV.lan
[18:42] <SupaYoshi> the cert was created using a command from console without changing hostname ><
[18:42] <SupaYoshi> jsut this way
[18:42] <SupaYoshi> sudo openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 1825  -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout /etc/apache2/ssl/apache.key -out /etc/apache2/ssl/apache.crt
[18:43] <Sicno> ...hello? I really don't want to be pushy and no need to summon ! patience, already read it, but I posted my question about half an hour and still not any kind of approach to it
[18:43] <SupaYoshi> what have i done wrong? I think my cert is for HOMESRV.lan, but I am going to browse to https://homesrv
[18:43] <SupaYoshi> since homesrv.lan doesnt work :)
[18:43] <SupaYoshi> https://homesrv.lan doesnt work so i ned to go to //homesrv/
[18:43] <SupaYoshi> and that gets me into trouble i suppoose?
[18:44] <AcidRain2012> how can i block chmod from being ran on "/"?
[18:45] <tsimpson> AcidRain2012: it's already blocked to everyone except root (and those who get get to root via sudo)
[18:45] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: try this: http://virtualposh.com/2013/03/15/how-to-create-custom-ssl-san-certificates-which-contain-the-fqdn-hostname-and-ip-address/
[18:45] <cowbacon> AcidRain2012: i think you need to restrict usage of chmod for your sudo users, i.e. tweak sudoers and only allow the sudo users access to specific utilities
[18:46] <AcidRain2012> no no. i want to block all sudoers (including myself, which im the only one) from running chmod on "/" specifically
[18:46] <SupaYoshi> sha1sum,  im on ubuntu
[18:46] <SupaYoshi> this seems to be for windows server
[18:47] <cowbacon> AcidRain2012: don't think thats possible unless you create your own chmod script that first checks if the folder being targeted is / else send the command to the real chmod
[18:47] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: meh I didn't check the OS and every instruction's not meant to be literal; I intended it to be a starting point
[18:47] <marloshouse> upon shutting down i noticed some unity dialog windows that were open in the back-ground, so there was problem some dialog begging my attention that I wasn't seeing causing the desktop to lock up
[18:50] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: look into SubjectAltName
[18:50] <checoimg> ...
[18:51] <SinnerNyx> for an upstart service I created I run 'sudo stop njs'... This just blocks on the console until I ctrl+C. Any ideas why? Do I need to do something in the upstart to indicate how to kill the process?
[18:51] <ChogyDan> SinnerNyx: is this your own upstart script?
[18:51] <SinnerNyx> ChogyDan: Yes.
[18:52] <ChogyDan> SinnerNyx: yeah, I think you have to have a stop section, with the commands to run
[18:52] <cowbacon> SinnerNyx: if i remember correctly sudo isn't working correctly in rc and upstard because it needs a tty. it should be run as root anyway
[18:52] <cowbacon> atleast that was how it was for me when i added a script to rclocal
[18:53] <sha1sum> Anybody experience static through Chrome (not Chromium), but only over an HDMI output interface?
[18:53] <sha1sum> (or even if you don't and have a solution)
[18:53] <SinnerNyx> cowbacon: So I should sudo su, first and then just run the stop line alone?
[18:53] <mayhew> SinnerNyx: if your process doesn't run in the foreground, you need to add an "expect" clause depending on if it forks or daemonizes. http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#expect
[18:53] <SinnerNyx> mayhew: I have a expect fork.
[18:54] <SinnerNyx> ChogyDan: I'll look up stop stanzas now
[18:54] <cowbacon> SinnerNyx: unless i missunderstood you the service should already be running as root so you won't need sudo
[18:54] <cowbacon> and for me, i had to remove sudo from my upstart script because it gave an error saying sudo needed a tty
[18:55] <MRNV> SinnerNyx: I suply cowbacon, some command need to start with sudo su first, or use root console if you have xfce or debian
[18:55] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: sorry if I missed anything. Noticed my lag creeping up so had to switch servers.
[18:55] <harris> why does the boot menu display when ubuntu is only os installed
[18:55] <Sicno> ...so, since nobody is interested in trying to help me I guess I'll have no option but to ditch ubuntu and put windows back
[18:56] <sha1sum> harris: to give you an opportunity to specify boot options, boot into safe mode, or boot to a different kernel
[18:56] <harris> how do i just boot straight to ubuntu no boot menue
[18:56] <arvut> hey. where do I edit configs to make x11vnc startup with the OS (ubuntu 10.04LTS)
[18:56] <Fyodorovna> harris run sudo update-gru
[18:57] <sha1sum> Sicno: don't be a diva. Maybe no one knows how to help you or is busy helping someone else. What was the problem?
[18:57] <Fyodorovna> Grub
[18:57] <arvut> I imagine its somewhere in /etc
[18:57] <sha1sum> harris: not a good idea. You can lower the delay, but (even if you could, which I'm not sure if you can) I wouldn't advise turning off the GRUB menu
[18:57] <harris> any tips on speeding up dash and other windows
[18:58] <harris> sha1sum, any tips
[18:58] <arvut> ahh.. inetd
[18:58] <ChogyDan> harris: I changed how the dash appeared, made it fade in without the slide, and that seemed faster
[18:58] <cowbacon> arvut: you can add it to rc.local. you can google it for more specific instructions
[18:59] <sha1sum> Damned lag.
[18:59] <Sicno> sha1sum: I asked a question 40 minutes ago and the only reply I got was "check the disc integrity", which i already did in the past and I said so. Other than that I didn.'t get anything. My problem is that on an all-in-one HP machine I get the following error when trying to boot  http://imgur.com/H9Y0tQU  and only if I set "acpi=off" I can boot. But later I can't shutdown the system, it hangs out at the end. It can reboot though, but not powe
[18:59] <Sicno> r off.
[19:00] <MRNV> Sicno: try to remember what you done, maybe you made a mistake, and don't be harry
[19:00] <ChogyDan> Sicno: you may want to specify what version of ubuntu, and maybe what kind of computer
[19:01] <SinnerNyx> I tried adding a "kill timeout" to the upstart but it still fails to stop
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> harris sudo update-grub should set it to hide, did you run it?
[19:02] <Sicno> it's an HP all.in-one machine (let me check the exact product number), running ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS 64 bits
[19:02] <harris> wilee-nilee, how do i make it overall faster
[19:02] <Sicno> and as I said before, sorry for being pushy, I was patient enough, waited 10-20 minutes, but after 40 minutes...
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> harris, but a faster computer
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> Buy
[19:04] <sha1sum> Sicno: do you have a "CPU EIST Function" (EIST = Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology) or similar in the BIOS settings for the machine?
[19:04] <Sicno> also I tried this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI  , "acpi=off" boots but "acpi=ht" doesn't, so "the issue is in the ACPI table parsing code itself, or perhaps the SMP code". Any ideas about what to do now?
[19:05] <rednaks> Hello !
[19:05] <vegardwonders> hey guys!
[19:05] <Sicno> sha1sum: the bios is minimal (really minimal) and doesn't have that option
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> harris if it is running as it was when you installed without any real detailed valid description, do we just guess?
[19:05] <rednaks> I have a critical issue with gpg any one can help here ?
[19:06] <ChogyDan> Sicno: some basic ideas would be to try 32bit and to try 13.04
[19:06] <vegardwonders> im wanting to limit the bandwidth on my box, and i downloaded a TC script which i ran. but before i thought to change the parameters of the script, i ran it. now ive got very slow net, and i want to stop the script, change it, and run the new version. basically my question is, how do i stop TC scripts?
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> rednacks, state the issue
[19:07] <rednaks> Is that okey if I can export my gpg-private key without asking for a password ?
[19:08] <rednaks> signing and decrypting askme for passephrase but not exporting ...
[19:08] <sha1sum> Sicno: have you tried "acpi=force" ?
[19:09] <Sicno> ChogyDan: before trying this one I tried 32 and 64 bit of different versions, including 13.04, but they didn't boot either. I gave up on it, installed windows on the pc, delivered it, but the HDD died, got it back with a new HDD, tried to make it work this time, got a tip to try acpi=off, worked, been at it then the only thing I have left to do is making it power off properly
[19:09] <Sicno> sha1sum: gonna try that now
[19:10] <tozen> .quit
[19:10] <sha1sum> . != /
[19:11] <vegardwonders> uh?
[19:13] <Sicno> sha1sum: same error at boot
[19:16] <Sicno> following the debugging guide I mentioned before they key part should be "the issue is in the ACPI table parsing code itself, or perhaps the SMP code". What does that mean?
[19:17] <sha1sum> Sicno: with acpi=off, does it shut down but not power off?
[19:18] <ubuntu_studio> fdfd
[19:18] <Sicno> sha1sum: it does seem to close everything nicely, it just doesn't power off at the end. Especially considering the pc does reboot, but turning it off stays at the ubuntu logo with white dots forever
[19:18] <cowbacon> sha1sum: thats what my server does. is there any easy way to fix that?
[19:18] <ubuntu_studio> hello
[19:21] <emmet> hello.
[19:21] <ubuntu> der
[19:22] <emmet> I just install ubuntu mini.iso and I have no desktop so I installed irssi to come here and ask how to setup the desktop.
[19:22] <emmet> s/installed/installed
[19:22] <tsimpson> emmet: install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package and you should have a standard ubuntu install
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> emmet, what desktop?
[19:22] <emmet> mini.iso ubuntu
[19:23] <Sicno> and got the model number now. The machine is an HP All-in-One 200-5030la
[19:23] <emmet> unity
[19:23] <emmet> tsimpson:  what config does the "ubuntu-desktop" need?
[19:23] <tsimpson> emmet: nothing, it will pull in all the standard packages the normal ubuntu install has
[19:23] <ChogyDan> Sicno: I would suggest filing a bug report, but it looks like you won't have the computer long...
[19:24] <emmet> alright. ya tsimpson  I see ALOt lol
[19:24] <Sicno> yeah, I have to deliver it ASAP and that means in a couple of hours tops
[19:25] <tim-ct> greetings all
[19:26] <tim-ct> does anyone know why iptables-save >/etc/iptables/rules.v4 does not save the rules
[19:26] <tim-ct> deletes all the changes
[19:27] <sha1sum> Sicno: not having any luck here... try opening a two tty sessions... on one, monitor dmesg, then on the other, issue a shutdown command ("sudo /sbin/shutdown now") and see what comes up
[19:27] <Sicno> tty sessions?
[19:27] <emmet> Sicno: ctrl+alt+FB
[19:27] <emmet> Sicno: ctrl+alt+F2
[19:28] <emmet> then you come back to this one the same way
[19:28] <sha1sum> Sicno: also are there any BIOS updates that you can download?
[19:28] <emmet> ops...probbaly too late for tht :/
[19:28] <emmet> im stupid
[19:28] <emmet> sha1sum:  sorry.
[19:29] <Sicno> sha1sum: looking for it but not sure where exactly should I get it
[19:29] <emmet> oh he didnt do it yet.
[19:29] <emmet> yay
[19:29] <sha1sum> Sicno: most likely from HP if it's an HP branded system
[19:30] <emmet> anyone here know how to switch windows/servers in irssi
[19:30] <emmet> i really never used irssi before :P
[19:30] <emmet> only once.
[19:30] <bneg> \/
[19:31] <sha1sum> emmet: ALT+1, ALT+2, etc.
[19:31] <emmet> sha1sum:  thanks.
[19:32] <sha1sum> emmet: you may have to disable those shortcuts from your terminal emulator if they don't act as expected.
[19:32] <yofun> sha1sum:  Im in command only atm :P
[19:32] <yofun> waiting for another tty to install the desktop
[19:33] <SubCool> is there a way to manage raid from GUI?
[19:33] <SubCool> Like i want to add, change partition sizes and such
[19:34] <yofun> sha1sum:  no tab trick?
[19:34] <themanwithnoface> i'm running 13.04 on an inspiron laptop 4GB RAM 500gb hdd and it's overheating a buit, installed jupiter, still overheating..
[19:34] <yofun> (auto nick complete)
[19:34] <sha1sum> yofun: eh?
[19:34] <sha1sum> oh
[19:34] <yofun> (auto nick complete -tab)
[19:34] <sha1sum> yofun: you mean in irssi?
[19:34] <yofun> yea
[19:35] <sha1sum> Yeah it does that
[19:35] <yofun> oh...It wasnt doing it a min ago -_-
[19:36] <sha1sum> yofun: a nice command to know: /ignore -channels #ubuntu,##linux * JOINS PARTS NICKS QUITS
[19:36] <sha1sum> yofun: keeps all the riff-raff hidden
[19:36] <yofun> sha1sum:  haha.
[19:37] <yofun> yea. Its a little annoying
[19:37] <Sicno> I need a package for using dmseg
[19:37] <Sicno> hoy do I get that package from the command line?
[19:37] <Sicno> how*
[19:37] <yofun> Sicno:  what package?
[19:37] <Sicno> 'util-linux'
[19:38] <sha1sum> Sicno: "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[19:38] <sha1sum> Sicno: that will follow the log output you're looking for
[19:39] <crypticmofo> hi all .. i have a question .. i have a lenova twist its a ultrabook that has the mouse in the middle of the keyboard trackpad whatever .. problem is when i was using the live dvd the mouse was fine .. when i installed ubuntu the mouse stuttered and it didn't act right .. is there a fix for this ?
[19:40] <bneg> crypticmofo: define stutter
[19:40] <crypticmofo> i move the mouse to lets say resize a window
[19:40] <sha1sum> bneg: I think he means "st-st-st-stutt-stutter"
[19:40] <sha1sum> lol
[19:40] <crypticmofo> and when i go to resize it the mouse jumps
[19:40] <crypticmofo> lol
[19:40] <crypticmofo> you know what i mean
[19:41] <bneg> crypticmofo: "resize"?
[19:41] <Sicno> "no such file or directory" (I'm in the live session by the way, since it behaves exactly the same as the installed one and if I change a parameter that would make it unbootable it won't affect the live disc)
[19:41] <rourick> hello :)
[19:42] <crypticmofo> bneg i have a 13 inh screen .. on windows my resolution is 1366x768 .. the windows get very small
[19:42] <Mardik_Shell> ola boa tarde
[19:42] <Privarchy> Hello, all.
[19:42] <Mardik_Shell> hello
[19:43] <crypticmofo> bneg i like making windows or lets say terminal smaller .. so i try to shirnk it and the mouse stutters or jumps .. then i have to keep fighting my mouse then eventually i can resize
[19:43] <rourick> new user here... i made a backup disk's (4) now can i dedicate ubuntu to all hd and install win8 back if i wanted with disk's?
[19:44] <Privarchy> Can somebody explain how I would upload a .txt file to https://github.com/Privarchy/Gittest
[19:44] <Privarchy> Please.
[19:44] <yofun> sha1sum:  is 512mb even enough to run "ubuntu-desktop"?
[19:44] <SubCool> no one- gui raid partitioning?
[19:44] <bneg> crypticmofo: Ah, your mouse sensitivity is too sensitive
[19:45] <Privarchy> I'm sorry to be a pain.
[19:45] <bneg> I have/had a similar prob on my Lenovo
[19:45] <yofun>   is 512mb even enough to run "ubuntu-desktop"?
[19:45] <bruce_wayne> hi everyone is there a free ubuntu cloud server/free lunix server online so i can install ubuntu or kde in? Found Amazon EC2 and Rackspace but those i have to pay
[19:45] <bruce_wayne> :/
[19:46] <sha1sum> yofun: should be enough... at what *speed* is the question.
[19:46] <sha1sum> RAM is cheap now.
[19:47] <yofun> sha1sum: yea. true
[19:47] <kostkon> yofun, not enough. it is going to swap like crazy
[19:47] <yofun> sha1sum: just fixing up a old computer for web and music
[19:47] <sha1sum> Price of 512MB == Price of few sammiches
[19:47] <Sicno> sha1sum: maybe the file is named in a different way?
[19:48] <kostkon> yofun, try lubuntu not vanilla ubuntu
[19:48] <yofun> yea. I have this other old computer that I probbaly can pull ram from...maybe.
[19:48] <sha1sum> Sicno: if you're trying to tab-complete the name and it's not completing, then it may be that you do not have permission. Try sudo
[19:48] <kimda> hi. i just compiled a driver as a dkms module. but after the reboot i see with modprobe the version i build but when i do ethtool -i eth0 i see another driver. which driver is loaded?
[19:49] <kostkon> yofun, then if you could add another 1.5-2GBs
[19:49] <sha1sum> Dude my first *hard*drive* was 25MB... I feel old
[19:49] <sha1sum> probably just because my 30th birthday is tomorrow.
[19:49] <sha1sum> I feel like an ancient sumbit
[19:50] <yofun> oh wow sha1sum The smallest I seen was a 12GB hard drive
[19:50] <Sicno> sha1sum: same result, also went to /var/log/ and there's no file named "messages"
[19:50] <yofun> with windows 98
[19:50] <sha1sum> Sicno: oh sorry I'm a dumbass sometimes... /var/log/dmesg
[19:51] <Sicno> ok, no rpoblem  ;)
[19:51] <Sicno> errr... problem* see? happens to everybody  :P
[19:51] <sha1sum> heheh
[19:51]  * sha1sum has had too many Newcastles already
[19:52] <yofun> sha1sum: newcastles?
[19:52] <val10> hi, i have a problem, When i update my ubuntu 12.04, after restarting he is stuck and dont turn on anymore. Something with video card. It`s not recognize her. And now i re-install it but i afraid to update again.
[19:52] <gordonjcp> nothing wrong with Newkie, for a low-cost mass-produced beer
[19:53] <yofun> ah (didnt know it was a band of beer)
[19:53] <yofun> brand*
[19:53] <sha1sum> gordonjcp: yeah the "low cost" part is why I'm drinking it... We have a really awesome brown ale here in the Tampa Bay area called Cigar City Maduro
[19:53] <sha1sum> it's actually not that much more money but I don't feel like driving 30 blocks to go get it.
[19:54] <sha1sum> which is sad.
[19:54] <sha1sum> (both that I don't have it and won't drive 30 blocks)
[19:55] <sha1sum> So I guess what I'm saying is that it's really the "mass-produced" part that's the reason I'm drinking it.
[19:55] <bazhang> !ot | sha1sum
[19:56] <Sicno> sha1sum: ok, tried it, on the one I was monitoring i got "The system is going down for maintenance NOW!", then after a while got a new prompt line (root@ubuntu:~#)
[19:56] <sha1sum> bazhang: Jiminy Cricket man... do you see any other topics I'm competing with? heheh
[19:57] <bazhang> sha1sum, the channel for chat is not this one. we have a channel for that regardless of the activity level here
[19:57] <yofun> meh
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> sha1sum  please keep the channel clear for ubuntu support questions
[19:58] <sha1sum> Yeah I hear ya. Not sure that the channel is not "clear" because of my chat but whatever. I understand. My apologies.
[20:00] <sha1sum> SO, since we're all serious, what's next? Sicno, did you get anywhere with monitor the dmesg logs?
[20:01] <sha1sum> monitoring*
[20:02] <yofun> so sha1sum "unbuntu-desktop" is installed is there a command to run it?
[20:02] <yofun> or should i restart?
[20:02] <Sicno> sha1sum: on the one with dmesg got the "system is going down for maintenance NOW!" message, after that a new prompt line (root@ubuntu:~#)
[20:03] <bazhang> yofun, log out and select at login window
[20:03] <yofun> bazhang:  select where?
[20:03] <dtcrshr> where else more than /etc/apt/sources.lst I have repos ?
[20:03] <yofun> bazhang: im on a tty
[20:03] <yofun> two ttys to speak.
[20:04] <bazhang> dtcrshr, /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:04] <yofun> one for IRC and the other I /was/ installing "ubuntu-desktop"
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> dtcrshr, /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:04] <kostkon> Sicno, sudo lightdm restart?
[20:05] <kostkon> Sicno, sorry, i meatn sudo service lightdm restart
[20:05] <Sicno> sha1sum: and in the one shutting down at the end I got "Will now switch to single-user mode    [fail]"
[20:05] <Sicno> I'll try that, kostkon
[20:06] <crypticmofo> ok
[20:06] <Sicno> on which one? the one shutting down or the one monitoring?
[20:06] <crypticmofo> im going to boot / install ubuntu and i will be back
[20:07] <mohit> please help me with ubuntu 13.04 wifi problem . i am new to this environment
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> mohit, run lspci in the terminal find the wifi and post it.
[20:08] <mohit> ok
[20:08] <Sicno> kostkon: ok, don't know what what the purpose of that
[20:08] <Sicno> the problem is that the system doesn't power off, it can boot correctly but not power off
[20:08] <Sicno> reboot correctly*
[20:08] <kostkon> Sicno, bring up lightdm and its chain of deps like X etc
[20:09] <Sicno> what do you mean?
[20:09] <kostkon> Sicno, and the desktop environment, unity at some point
[20:09] <kostkon> Sicno, anyway, just reboot
[20:09] <Sicno> but man, that's not the problem
[20:09] <Sicno> thanks for that but that's mnot the problem
[20:10] <kostkon> Sicno, ok
[20:10] <sha1sum> Damn I have to leave. See ya all.
[20:10] <Sicno> the problem is that the pc needs acpi=off in order to boot, but it doesn't power off when given the order to shutdown
[20:11] <kostkon> Sicno, oh ok
[20:11] <Sicno> it reboots ok, it seems to close everything ok at shutdown, it just doesn't power off and hangs out there forever
[20:12] <datandroiddude> where would i get started with kernel development to build an OS in Linux?
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> datandroiddude, Not here this is ubuntu support
[20:13] <datandroiddude> ugh ok sry but i also wanted to noe if i could install ubuntu on my asus g75vx?
[20:14] <emmet> haha...I dont even have a swap :
[20:14] <datandroiddude> wilee-nilee
[20:14] <datandroiddude> ugh ok sry but i also wanted to noe if i could install ubuntu on my asus g75vx?
[20:14] <emmet> how do I set up a swap in ubuntu?
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> emmet, You can use gparted, be aware of the types of partitions and the limitations on a single HD.
[20:15] <mohit> wilee its 00:00.0 Host bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Host Bridge (rev b1) 00:00.1 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Memory Controller (rev b1) 00:03.0 ISA bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 LPC Bridge (rev b2) 00:03.1 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Memory Controller (rev b1) 00:03.2 SMBus: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 SMBus (rev b1) 00:03.3 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Memory Controller (rev b1) 00:03.5 Co-processor: NV
[20:15] <z4sk0> hi all
[20:16] <z4sk0> i am trying to record my voice with "rec audio.wav rate 64k silence 3 0.1 1.5% 2.3 3.0 3%". The idea is that only record when detect my voice, but the problem its that to many times cut the first letters of the sentence. Any ideas?
[20:16] <emmet> wilee-nilee:  eh. my desktop is a little slow for the gui atm.
[20:16] <emmet> thats why I need a swap :{
[20:16] <emmet> :P
[20:16] <xeonix> Hello all :]
[20:17] <emmet> whats the other desktops I can switch too other then ubuntu desktop?
[20:17] <emmet> the simpler less ram usage ones
[20:17] <emmet> (I have 512mb ram
[20:17] <xeonix> emmet, puppy linux
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> mohit, First you can tab complete nicks, second that is all graphic info, 3rd that much data would go to a pastebin.
[20:17] <emmet> xeonix:  meh debian ran fine.
[20:18] <deepak_rai> does ubuntu work with efi booting
[20:18] <emmet> I just wanted ubuntu but I guess I cant.
[20:18] <franquin> emmet: lubuntu, xubuntu, debian
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> emmet, lubuntu or lxde would be okay
[20:18] <kostkon> emmet, lubuntu
[20:18] <deepak_rai> i have a lenovo which doesnt boot from the usb
[20:18] <deepak_rai> trying a unetbootin disk
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | deepak_rai
[20:18] <emmet> can I just switch to lubuntu or no?
[20:18] <datandroiddude> my asus doesnt boot either
[20:18] <emmet> deepak_rai: on windows?
[20:18] <kostkon> emmet, install the lubuntu-desktop package
[20:18] <datandroiddude> wa
[20:18] <datandroiddude> ya
[20:18] <emmet> deepak_rai: theres wubi.exe
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> emmet, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-dektop
[20:19] <emmet> you can use that
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> desktop*
[20:19] <datandroiddude> ill try wubi but it doesnt support w8
[20:19] <deepak_rai> emmet:  i created a bootable usb disk but it doesnt boot on my win 8 ultrabook
[20:19] <datandroiddude> me too but its an asus
[20:19] <emmet> Ah.
[20:19] <datandroiddude> g75vx
[20:20] <mohit> wilww-nilee , sorry for my last post .. i hope this line can help you Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[20:20] <emmet> deepak_rai: have you tryed the wubo.exe?
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | mohit This is all I know
[20:20] <deepak_rai> emmet: what can wubi do?
[20:20] <emmet> deepak_rai:  Do you have an existing windows install on it?
[20:20] <Lecter> hi
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> deepak_rai, wubi will not run in a W8 setup, read the uefi info from the bot.
[20:20] <deepak_rai> emmet: yes. I have win 8 installed
[20:20] <grendal-prime> denker
[20:21] <deepak_rai> emmet: it doesnt boot from the usb
[20:21] <Sicno> well, it seems I'll have to convince the old lady that after the system hangs out forever when shutting it down pressing the power button to turn it off is perfectly normal and not a problem  -_-
[20:21] <deepak_rai> ok thanks wilee-nilee .  i will go through the link
[20:21] <crypticmofo> has anyoone installed ubuntu on a efi parition ?
[20:21] <Lecter> I am having diffitulties opening a shared harddrive from another computer on my workgroup
[20:21] <Sicno> looking at the time... I shoudl start finishing the other details on the pc to deliver it soon
[20:21] <mohit> wilee-nilee , i can use my wifi during live mode, but when i install it i cant use it anymore and even the SOF window is not helping me
[20:21] <blarget_ubuntu> so
[20:21] <blarget_ubuntu> webgl doesnt work on 12.04 stl
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> !uefi > crypticmofo
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> mohit, Common problem, just follow the link.
[20:22] <Lecter> anybody is good with networking and sharing?
[20:22] <Sicno> thanks for all the help anyway
[20:22] <emmet> kostkon:  will lubuntu override ubuntu-desktop after the install?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> !anyone > Lecter
[20:23] <emmet> probbaly should unstall 'ubuntu-desktop?'
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> emmet, YOu choose it from the login gear dropdown.
[20:23] <emmet> oh okay
[20:23] <kostkon> emmet, no, you will have both. just logout, click on the gear icon and select the lubuntu session from the dropdown list
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> emmet, You are cosistenly giving very bad advice.
[20:23] <mohit> wilee-nilee,  thanks but where is the link ?
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> consistently*
[20:23] <emmet> wilee-nilee: okay sorry Ill stop
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | mohit
[20:24] <emmet> wilee-nilee: I didnt know wubi didnt work on win8
[20:24] <Lecter> wilee-nilee can you help me parameter the shared drives?
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> emmet, YOu can't just easily remove the ubuntu desktop either
[20:24] <mohit> Thnaks
[20:24] <emmet> wilee-nilee: it installed in a easy way. shouldnt it unstall easly?
[20:25] <emmet> apt-get unstall ubuntu-desktop ?
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> Lecter, State your issue to the channel for help.
[20:25] <bruce_wayne> hi everyone is there a free ubuntu cloud server/free lunix server online so i can install ubuntu or kde in? Found Amazon EC2 and Rackspace but those i have to pay
[20:25] <emmet> oh wait nvm..
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> emmet, No it is a meta package.
[20:25] <guntbert> emmet: no, read up what a meta package does
[20:25] <Lecter> my issue is drive sharing with windows computers on a network
[20:25] <emmet> will do when I get a working desktop :p
[20:26] <guntbert> !ot | bruce_wayne
[20:26] <Lecter> I am able to connect to the workgroup, individual computers, but I am unable to open shared drives
[20:26] <emmet> whats the command to restart ubuntu-desktop? (tty7 is frozen)
[20:26] <Lecter> can you help me with that wilee-nilee?
[20:27] <themanwithnoface> second that emmet
[20:27] <mohit> ubottu, i am new to ubuntu, i can see the driver links there, but i am using different laptops for ubuntu and this chat
[20:27] <Skyrell> hello
[20:27] <kostkon> emmet, what version of ubuntu is it?
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> Lecter, It is considered rude to ask for help without being addressed.
[20:28] <emmet> kostkon: 13.04
[20:28] <emmet> mini.iso
[20:28] <bruce_wayne> ubotto dear friend..fuck you from the bottom of my hart..
[20:28] <mohit> wilee-nilee, i am new to ubuntu, i can see the driver links there, but i am using different laptops for ubuntu and this chat
[20:28] <kostkon> emmet, not idea then :/
[20:28] <kostkon> no*
[20:29] <mohit> ubottu but still you can try .. cause i dint know anything about ubuntu..
[20:29] <guntbert> Lecter: what wilee-nilee probably wanted to say: don't target one person with your question, put your problem to the channel, if anyone knows how to help they will answer
[20:30] <Lecter> thanks for explaining it guntbert
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> mohit, All I can do is show you the link, I have not had to mess with wifi drivers, if you can plug in the Ethernet do that, the link explains your situation if you look close.
[20:30] <AcidRain2012> mohit, u r talking to a bot. what question do you have?
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> I said what I felt If the user had actually read the posts that info was already there.
[20:31] <mohit> wilee-nilee, i dont have a wired connection .. so unable to download them :(
[20:31] <Lecter> so is there someone who crossnetworked with windows machines a bit here?
[20:31] <AcidRain2012> mohit, do you have an android phone?
[20:32] <AcidRain2012> or a laptop?
[20:32] <mohit> AcidRain2012 , cant use my wifi
[20:32] <mohit> laptop
[20:32] <sys9p> hello. im currently in step of installing ubuntu 10:10. i'm courius how to check if hd is used as sata drive native or sata in ide mode. is it possible via /sys/ ?
[20:32] <AcidRain2012> hook 1 laptop to the other laptop, use it as a bridge from the router
[20:32] <bekks> Lecter: Why?
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> sys9p, 10.10 id end of life and not supported install 12.04 or after
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> is*
[20:32] <themanwithnoface> wilee-nilee: any epxerience with this "Could not mount dev/mapper/cryptswap1"
[20:33] <guntbert> Lecter: a tip from the sideline: ask your real question in one line (no <enter> in between) and prepare for patience - repeating every 10-12 minutes is ok
[20:33] <sys9p> wilee-nilee: i know that :)
[20:33] <mohit> AcidRain2012 , i am new to ubuntu, this is my first time .. i saw a video over youtube and able to use my wifi in live mode.. but after complete install i cant use my wifi like before
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> sys9p, Then why are you asking?
[20:33] <AcidRain2012> mohit, i am aware of this. so do you have a solution?
[20:34] <sys9p> because it-s linux base related Q not distribution.
[20:34] <mohit> AcidRain2012 no
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> sys9p, and easy to figure out.
[20:35] <sys9p> ok. so i cat'ed /sys/block/sda/device/queue_depth. so i think it is in native sata mode
[20:35] <Guest18290> hello
[20:35] <emmet> haha..."love:not found"
[20:35] <AcidRain2012> lulz
[20:35] <mohit> AcidRain2012 , please help me with my wifi so i can use net and explore the world of opensource
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> The program 'love' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> sudo apt-get install love
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> mohit, i wasnt going to help. but the way you asked has tempted me ;)
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> what wifi card do you have?
[20:36] <emmet> AcidRain2012:  lol. yea but I meant the package "lubuntu-desktop' said love: not found
[20:37] <emmet> hopefully thats not important :P
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> lol. no love in lubuntu-desktop
[20:37] <emmet> haha.
[20:37] <mohit> AcidRain2012 why not
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> should use cinnamon ;)
[20:37] <Magicarp> Some packages where just updated (I found which ones in the term.log) and now steam complains about OpenGL GLX isn't using direct rendering.
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> mohit, i have limited time. tell me what wifi card you have
[20:37] <nurow> hello. has anyone ever had an issue with Filezilla where all of the accounts in the sites manager have been changed to "Ask for Password" and none of the saved passwords are available?
[20:38] <mohit> Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[20:38] <nurow> and if I try to change the account type to normal, it says "that account type is not available in this mode"
[20:38] <bekks> nurow: Nope.
[20:38] <mohit> AcidRain2012 Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[20:38] <guntbert> nurow: "anonymity" mode?
[20:39] <nurow> actually it says it is running in Kiosk mode
[20:39] <guntbert> nurow: sorry, I misread
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> mohit, ive had similar problems in the past. your solution is here; http://dimitar.me/broadcom-wireless-chipset-bcm4311-bcm4312-bcm4321-and-bcm4322-on-ubuntu-karmic/
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> first google link
[20:40] <nurow> fuck. I was able to remove Kiosk mode but now all of my passwords are gone
[20:40] <IdleOne> !language
[20:41] <AcidRain2012> nurow, whose passwords are you trying to take?
[20:41] <nurow> AcidRain2012: what?
[20:42] <nurow> I am a web developer with over 50 accounts on my Filezilla that I use for quick access to my accounts. Please don't accuse people of BS.
[20:42] <AcidRain2012> how do i turn echo off in terminal?
[20:42] <AcidRain2012> lol
[20:42] <mohit> AcidRain2012 can i download these driever to different computer and then use in ubuntu via usb drive ?
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> mohit, yes. make backups of everything first. because the link i gave you is for a different chipset
[20:43] <mohit> ok
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> mohit, BUT, it may work for you. i was using a different version of some modules for an older chipset i had. it worked for me
[20:43]  * tacpacpoc the best game REAL GOLD : http://www.goldentowns.com?i=7386
[20:43] <mohit> AcidRain2012 thanks .. let me try
[20:49] <Magicarp> Update manager updated some mesa packages and now steam complains that OpenGL GLX isn't using direct rendering?
[20:49] <Zig> Can someone hel with a internet connection problem on Ubuntu 13.04? it sees the connection, trys to connect, but does not successfully connect.
[20:50] <Zig> help*
[20:51] <nabblet> Zig: did it work before?
[20:52] <Zig> Nope
[20:52] <Zig> literally jsut downloaded it on my pc
[20:52] <Zig> im in here on another one
[20:52] <nabblet> Zig: it = ubuntu 13.04?
[20:52] <Zig> It had a windows 7 system
[20:52] <Zig> yes
[20:52] <Zig> 3.04
[20:52] <Zig> 3.04
[20:53] <Zig> 13.04*
[20:53] <Zig> it did connect to the internet on the windows 7 OS, but will not on the 13.04 version of ubuntu
[20:53] <nabblet> Zig: ok
[20:54] <nabblet> Zig: are you new to ubuntu?
[20:54] <Zig> Yes, very much so.
[20:54] <nabblet> just to know your level of experience
[20:54] <nabblet> Zig: argh, my internet is incredibly slow... there is an extra website about wlan for ubuntu
[20:55] <reisio> Zig: wireless?
[20:55] <Zig> wlan? i dont even know what that is
[20:55] <Zig> yes reisio
[20:56] <nabblet> Zig: can you paste the output of lspci -v?
[20:56] <nabblet> !paste Zig
[20:56] <Zig> One sec, ill post
[20:56] <nabblet> !paste
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> Zig  wlan is wireless local area network, wifi, your wireless connection
[20:57] <Zig> ya
[20:58] <Zig> i cannot post using the pastebin due to the lack of internet on the machine
[20:59] <Zig> if you tell me what text to look for, i can check it maybe
[20:59] <nabblet> Zig: can you spot something that says someting about your wireless card?
[20:59] <reisio> Zig: how about the computer make/model #?
[21:00] <nabblet> Zig: paste the output of this command "lspci -v | grep 802.11"
[21:00] <dan123_> hello, I installed saned and xinetd in a server which has a scanner attached. How can I configure clients to see the scanner attached to the scanner? It looks like port 6566 is up
[21:00] <Zig> the wireless card info is : Intel Corp. Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150
[21:01] <mohit> unable to use wifi in ubuntu 13.04
[21:02] <Zig> Same mohit
[21:02] <mohit> Zig, it was working on live mode but not after installation,
[21:02] <daftykins> dan123_: you again - did you not get any further?
[21:03] <dan123_> daftykins: didnt have much time to work on it but it looks like port 6566 is now up and running :)
[21:03] <emmet> how do I use openbox?
[21:03] <nabblet> Zig: well this one looks pretty much like your problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010968&page=5&s=d6b13729bc2023ccab5e7962d45b5f1b
[21:03] <Zig> i got no response from lspci -v grep thing
[21:03] <dan123_> daftykins: I just dont know how to test it
[21:03] <nabblet> emmet: start it ;)
[21:04] <reisio> emmet: you can probably choose it from the cog icon at the login screen
[21:04] <emmet> I have it open
[21:04] <nabblet> emmet: log out and coose it as session
[21:04] <emmet> but its blank and gray
[21:04] <nabblet> emmet: right click on desktop
[21:04] <reisio> emmet: right click
[21:04] <emmet> ah/
[21:04] <reisio> openbox is a window manager, mostly all it does is manage windows
[21:04] <Zig> Thanks for the link, sounds right. Thanks!
[21:05] <nabblet> Zig: i think that link is for ubtunu 12.xx but i think it sould work for you too
[21:05] <emmet> reisio:  yea. Good for limited ram :p
[21:05] <reisio> for lots of things
[21:05] <nabblet> Zig maybe there is even an nicer method in 13
[21:05] <reisio> you could even use it with a full blown DE if you wanted
[21:05] <mohit> Zig, if you able to use your wifi let me know
[21:05] <nabblet> reisio: emmet lxde uses openboc under the hood
[21:05] <reisio> mmhmmm
[21:06] <nabblet> *openbox
[21:06] <emmet> so how can I configure a task bar for my windows...I notice after I min firefox its gone :p
[21:06] <nabblet> emmet: there are very good tutorials on openbox
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> !dock
[21:06] <reisio> emmet: try installing tint2 and running it
[21:06] <nabblet> emmet: i don't know if openbox has it's own task bar
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> roll your own desktop. Pick a WM. pick a panel, or dock if you want, pick a file manager. ;)
[21:07] <emmet> reisio: whats tint2?
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> openbox does not have a panel. you use its menus to launch things.
[21:07] <nabblet> emmet: if you want to try, use fluxbox - it is a child of openbox and brings taskbars with it
[21:07] <reisio> emmet: a task bar
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> fluxbox does have a basic panel i belive
[21:07] <nabblet> emmet: i use fluxbox - it has a taskbar and a panel
[21:08] <raven> how to embed root/ssh passwords into a mount script?
[21:08] <nabblet> so you get a list of windows and the icons for all your stuff
[21:08] <nabblet> raven: for ssh best use key files
[21:08] <nabblet> raven: don't know for root
[21:08] <epsilonorion> This question is mainly in regards to vmware application, but I think it is an ubuntu issue.  After installing Ubuntu in the vm, I first had an issue where my forward and backward mouse buttons won't working.  I added the required additions to the vmx file, however, now I am getting a behavior where anytime the mouse comes to an edge I lose focus of the virtual machine.  Anyone know if there is something in Ubuntu that could be causing
[21:08] <epsilonorion> this?  Maybe an issue with the vmware-tools addition?  If completely unrelated, I will wait to see if anyone on the vmware irc has an idea.
[21:09] <emmet> nabblet:  so apt-get install fluxbox and it should show up at the login screen?
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> emmet:  yes. Most window managers will add a item to that list
[21:09] <nabblet> emmet: yes
[21:09] <emmet> k.
[21:09] <reisio> epsilonorion: why wouldn't you lose focus?
[21:09] <qin> raven: why mounting as root on line fs is good idea?
[21:10] <raven> qin, not necessary
[21:10] <nabblet> emmet: what ubuntu are you using?
[21:12] <epsilonorion> reisio:  the lose focus part is partially expected.  Before the addition to the vmx file, if I moved the mouse towards the edge it would lose focus, but that was fine.  After the addition, moving towards the edge at any time (even full screen), I lose focus.
[21:12] <dan123_> daftykins: do you know by any chance how can I test if te scanner attached to the server works?
[21:12] <emmet> nabblet: 13.04
[21:12] <emmet> nabblet:  I just installed fluxbox im in it now
[21:12] <epsilonorion> Anytime I move towards the edge to click a button on unity, it loses focus.  I then click on the screen to regain focus, my mouse jumps to the edge where I lost focus, I slightly move, and then sometimes lose focus again.  Just annoying just to click a button
[21:13] <reisio> epsilonorion: dunno, might ask #vmware if nobody here knows a solution
[21:13] <epsilonorion> It just seems very glitchy
[21:13] <nabblet> emmet:
[21:13] <epsilonorion> I asked there, but only one person replied who did not seem to know this issue, thanks though
[21:13] <nabblet> apt-cache show fluxbox | grep Version
[21:13] <SupaYoshi> Hey guys, i got something installed thats for minecraft. and it says: Python library not found...
[21:13] <epsilonorion> just seems like a behavior that is not normal since it only acts this way after making the changes to the vmx file
[21:13] <SupaYoshi> However I have python...
[21:14] <SupaYoshi> Atleast as far as i know?
[21:14] <nabblet> emmet: i want to know what version of fluxbox you are running - please give me the output of the command i just told you
[21:14] <emmet> nabblet: lol im in tty irssi
[21:15] <nabblet> emmet: no problem, you can copy paste with middle mouse button
[21:15] <nabblet> emmet: just mark the info you want to copy - don't press anything else
[21:15] <nabblet> emmet: and then middle mous button. if you are on a laptop and don't have middle mouse butten, clicking left and right mousebutton at the same time will have the same effect
[21:16] <emmet> 1.3.2-5
[21:16] <emmet> 1.3.2-4*
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> old school cut and pasteing. ;)
[21:16] <emmet> mouse doesnt even work in tty so..
[21:16] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: it's so much faster...
[21:16] <nabblet> emmet: ah ok :P
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  yep. but you got to have the mouse-dexterity-kung-fu skills. ;)
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> most people dont even realize with the mouse wheel. you CAN click on  it.
[21:17] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: well, on a laptop the mouse is right below the keyboard
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> emmet:  install gpm and the mouse can work in the console.
[21:17] <emmet> ah?
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> !info gpm
[21:17] <nabblet> emmet: ok, if i recall correctly, the folk of arch linux have a very good documentation on fluxbox
[21:18] <emmet> wow
[21:18] <emmet> mouse on tty lol..
[21:18] <emmet> kinda useless thru
[21:18] <nabblet> emmet: all configurations of fluxbox can be done in ~/.fluxbox
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> emmet:  useless? err.. not really. very usefull. Cut/patste. make selections in text editors. use mc and its buttons work..
[21:18] <emmet> fluxbox can be done in ~/.fluxbox
[21:19] <emmet> mc
[21:19] <emmet> ops..
[21:19] <nabblet> emmet: all configuration
[21:19] <reisio> changing wm to get a panel is a bit silly IMO :)
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/fluxbox-config.xml
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[21:20] <nabblet> reisio: well going from openbox to fluxbox is not really a change
[21:20] <reisio> ...
[21:20] <reisio> I guess if you don't count changes, it isn't
[21:20]  * emmet runs termial to run firefox....cant find it lol.
[21:21] <nabblet> emmet: you can use F2 for taht
[21:21] <nabblet> *that
[21:21] <nabblet> emmet: the F2 window has tab-completion
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> !find fluxbox-generate_menu
[21:21] <nabblet> emmet: Alt-F2 sorry
[21:22] <emmet> ya. I figured that out :P
[21:22] <nabblet> emmet: my advice: get kupfer
[21:22] <nabblet> emmet: that is was i use. fluxbox + kupfer
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> !info kupfer
[21:22] <emmet> hmm I try it.
[21:23] <emmet> up to try anything
[21:23] <nabblet> emmet: it can find files for you, launch programs and all that. very fast and light weight
[21:23] <nabblet> emmet: currently i run fluxbox and kupfer on an lenovo t43p - 1GB RAM and 1.8 Ghz Pentium CPU
[21:23] <emmet> ah nice.
[21:23] <bazzer> anybody successfully boot 12.04.3 desktop via pxe?
[21:23] <emmet> Im fixing up a computer for a friend.
[21:24] <emmet> old one 512mb ram
[21:24] <nabblet> well, then fluxbox is a good choice
[21:24] <emmet> and yea. then I rembered a long time ago someone said something about openbox
[21:24] <emmet> then you said fluxbox :P
[21:24] <emmet> then kupfer
[21:24] <nabblet> emmet: but don't forget - the main problem will be the applications. firefox and that
[21:24] <emmet> which im looking at them
[21:24] <emmet> firefox runs fine
[21:24] <emmet> it did on debian
[21:24] <emmet> whatever debian runs
[21:25] <FloodBot1> emmet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <nabblet> well, firefox is quite heavy, but if it does work well, then it's ok
[21:25] <nabblet> emmet: hm, but if your friend is new to linux, maybe give him lxde
[21:25] <nabblet> emmet: it will be near as fast as openbox, but your friend will not be loast
[21:26] <nabblet> *lost
[21:26] <emmet> what do I use for lxde?
[21:26] <emmet> I mean to get it.
[21:26] <nabblet> emmet: lxde is quite easy for everyone coming from windows - things are more familiar than using raw flux/openbox
[21:26] <mrrcp> 512mb?
[21:26] <mrrcp> wow
[21:26] <emmet> haha
[21:26] <nabblet> !lxde
[21:27] <emmet> oh...lubuntu
[21:27] <nabblet> wait
[21:27] <nabblet> stop
[21:27] <emmet> it didnt run that well.
[21:27] <nabblet> oh, you tried it before?
[21:27] <emmet> yea.
[21:27] <emmet> it runs a litte better then unity but it froze a little
[21:27] <mrrcp> do your friend a favor and just throw the box away
[21:27] <mrrcp> get on ebay and get a new one for $25.00
[21:27] <mrrcp> lol
[21:28] <fruco> hi
[21:28] <mrrcp> hiya fruco
[21:28] <nabblet> emmet: you can install lxde alone too
[21:28] <nabblet> emmet: sudo apt-get install lxde
[21:29] <emmet> will try.
[21:29] <emmet> i install "lubuntu-desktop" earlyer
[21:29] <nabblet> emmet: it depends on your friend
[21:29] <nabblet> emmet: is your friend good with computers?
[21:29] <emmet> yes/no
[21:29] <emmet> its a shared computer two friends
[21:30] <nabblet> emmet: how old are they?
[21:30] <nabblet> and what do they want to do with it?
[21:30] <emmet> just music and web.
[21:31] <emmet> maybe mixxx down the road for auto dj. at a club..
[21:31] <emmet> but yea one  I can teach the other one doesnt mess with computers at all.
[21:31] <nabblet> ah ok
[21:32] <nabblet> well, aim for lxde first - there is no point in haveing a fast interface, when they don't know how to use it ;)
[21:32] <nabblet> emmet: as i said, you don't need to get all that lubuntu-desktop stuff
[21:32] <nabblet> emmet: lxde alone will be fine too
[21:33] <nabblet> emmet: what cpu is inside that computer?
[21:33] <emmet> and sempron
[21:34] <nabblet> what frequencey?
[21:34] <emmet> AMD sempron 3---+
[21:34] <bekks> emmet: Which one very exactly?
[21:34] <emmet> 3000+
[21:34] <emmet> 2.00GHz
[21:34] <tomektestowo> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 with Intel GMA 4500MHD graphics card. Should I install Intel Linux Graphics? There is nothing wrong with current (default, I guess?) drivers but I'm just curious.
[21:35] <Ubuntuuser1> Hello ! I need help regarding window size
[21:35] <bekks> !intel | tomektestowo
[21:35] <bekks> hmm.
[21:35] <tekonivel> oh dear, i wonder what has happened to my Unity; now it's a 2 minute wait every time i open the Dash, and alt-tab takes 1 minute
[21:35] <nabblet> emmet: about the lubuntu - did you install lubunut-desktop or did you download the lubuntu iso image?
[21:35] <Ubuntuuser1> I posted my problem a while ago on AskUbuntu, but noone was able to respond
[21:35] <mrrcp> Ubuntuuser1: ?
[21:36] <mrrcp> what about window size
[21:36] <Ubuntuuser1> for some reason my window shrinked to half of my laptop screen
[21:36] <bekks> Ubuntuuser1: Well, how about starting to ask your actual question?
[21:36] <tomektestowo> bekks: What?
[21:36] <Ubuntuuser1> how can I restore it to normal full window size
[21:36] <bekks> tomektestowo: Did you read the wiki about the intel driver?
[21:36] <emmet> nabblet:  lubuntu-desktop
[21:36] <bekks> Ubuntuuser1: Which window?
[21:37] <Ubuntuuser1> lol
[21:37] <emmet> nabblet: (sorry going back and forth between ttys
[21:37] <nabblet> emmet: np
[21:37] <tomektestowo> bekks: Which wiki do you mean?
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntuuser1, try displays
[21:37] <Ubuntuuser1> alright
[21:38] <emmet> brb.
[21:38] <Ubuntuuser1> I can't access to the File, Edit, View , History tabs for that matter it's like blocked
[21:39] <reaver> quit
[21:39] <crypticmofo> i have a question .. im installing ubuntu right now right .. this is what my keyboard looks like http://is.gd/qsnd7q .. i want to disable the trackpad but not the right click / middle button and the mouse .. anyways to do this ?
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntuuser1, file, it is in settings
[21:39] <Ubuntuuser1> strangely I was trying to watch some NFL some minutes ago, and the advertisment window was extended to full screen and seem to work
[21:39] <Ubuntuuser1> alright I read you loud and clear
[21:40] <mrrcp> hey crypticmofo hows the twist working out with ubuntu?
[21:40] <crypticmofo> is this possible
[21:40] <crypticmofo> mrrcp:  im installing it right now
[21:40] <mrrcp> i almost bought one last sat
[21:40] <emmet> there
[21:40] <emmet> now this is in fluxbox
[21:40] <emmet> no more tty lol
[21:40] <bekks> crypticmofo: disable your trackpad in the bios.
[21:40] <crypticmofo> oh
[21:40] <nabblet> emmet: ok, as i said. fluxbox alone will be scary for new users
[21:40] <crypticmofo> can i even do that ?
[21:40] <mrrcp> sure
[21:40] <nabblet> emmet: make life easy for them and give them kupfer
[21:40] <bekks> crypticmofo: Wedont know your bios.
[21:41] <mrrcp> you should be able to crypticmofo
[21:41] <nabblet> emmet: you can start kupfer with Ctrl+Space
[21:41] <nabblet> emmet: then you jsut type what you need and kupfer will provide ;)
[21:41] <emmet> how do I start kupfer
[21:41] <emmet> ?
[21:41] <crypticmofo> mrrcp: i will tell you how it goes .. im installing right now / all drivers aren't installed yet
[21:41] <emmet> I installed it
[21:41] <nabblet> emmet: ctrl+space
[21:41] <emmet> is it a desktop?
[21:41] <mrrcp> yea let me know please.
[21:42] <emmet> that does nothing.
[21:42] <tomektestowo> bekks: What wiki do you mean?
[21:42] <mrrcp> Ubuntuuser1: did you get it working?
[21:42] <nabblet> emmet: oh, open a terminal and type kupfer &
[21:42] <bekks> tomektestowo: The official ubuntu support site.
[21:42] <crypticmofo> bekks:  can i get bios info from the termianl ?
[21:42] <bekks> crypticmofo: No.
[21:42] <nabblet> emmet: you will see a red icon when kupfer is started
[21:42] <crypticmofo> meh
[21:43] <emmet>   ah.
[21:43] <crypticmofo>  mrrcp one big thing about this twist it comes with windows 8 aka efi
[21:43] <emmet> so how do I make it start at start up?
[21:43] <tomektestowo> bekks: I was searching by google and found nothing. Even asking at ask.ubuntu.com - no answer. So I'm trying here.
[21:43] <crypticmofo> mrrcp:  i had to disable secure boot and a lot of stuff o_O
[21:43] <nabblet> emmet: in ~/.fluxbox/startup ;)
[21:43] <bekks> crypticmofo: Thats nonsense. Windows 8 isnt known as EFI. They are totally different.
[21:43] <crypticmofo> well this one does
[21:43] <crypticmofo> bekks:  oem
[21:43] <nabblet> emmet: there are three important file in ~/.fluxbox
[21:44] <crypticmofo> i didn't say it was known as efi bekks
[21:44] <crypticmofo> uefi ?
[21:44] <bekks> crypticmofo: Nope. Your computer may support EFI, but that has entirely nothing to do with Windows 8 being EFI.
[21:44] <mrrcp> crypticmofo: yea i had a issue with a dell.. IT was a pain
[21:44] <nabblet> emmet: keys - for keyboard shortcuts, init - for all the taskbar and window stuff and startup - for stuff to autostart
[21:44] <bekks> "0908 234257 < crypticmofo> mrrcp one big thing about this twist it comes with windows 8 aka efi"
[21:44] <crypticmofo> bekks:  well i know if i don't have secure boot on and efi on then windows 8 won't boot
[21:44] <bekks> You actually did say it.
[21:44] <nabblet> emmet: if you endit startup - DON'T FORGET to put a & behind kupfer
[21:44] <crypticmofo> bekks:  if i have legacy on then i can install ubuntu
[21:44] <emmet> exec kupfer  correct?
[21:45] <emmet> exec kupfer &  correct?
[21:45] <tgm4883> *UEFI, not EFI
[21:45] <nabblet> yes
[21:45] <crypticmofo> thanks
[21:45] <bekks> crypticmofo: You can install Ubuntu on UEFI as well.
[21:45] <emmet> lets see
[21:46] <pinPoint> if I install from a PPA that is not yet part of ubuntu, whenever the new version comes in ubuntu ppa will the versions merge?
[21:47] <bekks> pinPoint: The latest version willbe installed, wherever it comes from. It may break dependencies and your system.
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> pinPoint, merge no, nor are ppa's supprted here.
[21:47] <tomektestowo> bekks: searching for "intel" in ubuntu documentation gives me in first link to my question at ask.ubuntu.com. So it's pointless...
[21:48] <bekks> tomektestowo: So whats the specific issue?
[21:48] <martinolsansky> hello, will TLP be updated to saucy once it is released?
[21:49] <bekks> martinolsansky: Whats TLP?
[21:49] <pinPoint> wilee-nilee: but ppa's are a part of ubuntu no?
[21:49] <bekks> pinPoint: No.
[21:49]  * pinPoint is confused.
[21:49] <pinPoint> ok
[21:49] <tomektestowo> Should I install this drivers or no? I'm just curoius if it will give better performance than installed default one
[21:49] <tomektestowo> beks:
[21:49] <emmet> hmmm...lxde is pretty clean
[21:49] <nabblet> emmet: yes
[21:49] <emmet> and seems to run okay.
[21:49] <Ubuntuuser1> I got to say this is really annoying, is anyone competent enough here to answer simple question about Ubuntu bug
[21:49] <SchrodingersScat> pinPoint: ppa is some random person giving you software
[21:49] <martinolsansky> bekks: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[21:49] <nabblet> emmet: i think it is more suitable for "non linux natives"
[21:49] <mrrcp> Ubuntuuser1:
[21:50] <emmet> (I was using lubuntu-desktop earlyer...thats slow on this machine)
[21:50] <mrrcp> did you check your display config
[21:50] <bekks> tomektestowo: No one can tell you yes or no. It is your choice. Installation will most likely be successful when you have the hardware supported by the driver you want to install.
[21:50] <nabblet> emmet: in my experience, lxde + ubuntu > lubuntu
[21:50] <emmet> nabblet: agreed
[21:50] <pinPoint> SchrodingersScat: so PPA, will not link up with ubuntu? looking at apache 2.4
[21:50] <Ubuntuuser1> why am I having my window only half-screen size and can not access the tool tab when browsing on the Net
[21:50] <Ubuntuuser1> why this appeared ?
[21:50] <martinolsansky> pinPoint: what are you trying to do?
[21:50] <tgm4883> pinPoint, your question "link up" doesn't make sense
[21:50] <tomektestowo> bekks: Ok, thank you.
[21:50] <SchrodingersScat> pinPoint: it's something you add at your own discretion, as bekks said.
[21:50] <tomektestowo> exit
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntuuser1, You have given no link to your askubuntu and have you heard of xrandr
[21:50] <tomektestowo> !exit
[21:50] <Ubuntuuser1> I always update the OS
[21:50] <tomektestowo> !quit
[21:50] <nabblet> emmet: althugh... fluxbox and kupfer is pretty mighty :D also, there is crunchbang http://crunchbang.org/about
[21:51] <pinPoint> ok
[21:51] <nabblet> emmet: just to give you _moar_ choice ;)
[21:51] <tomektestowo> How to quit? :p
[21:51] <Ubuntuuser1> minute I'll give you the link
[21:51] <tgm4883> tomektestowo, /quit
[21:51] <bekks> tomektestowo: "/quit"
[21:51] <tomektestowo> omg, damn irc, thanks ;d
[21:51] <nabblet> emmet: stay with ubuntu + lxde
[21:51] <nabblet> emmet: and see if mixxx can run at usable spped
[21:51] <nabblet> *speed
[21:52] <emmet> nabblet:  one sec have to install mixxx
[21:52] <emmet> but tbh I was trying to use it earlyer....couldnt get it to work :P
[21:52] <nabblet> emmet: if they just need something to play back music use clementine
[21:52] <emmet> im used to sam broadcaster
[21:52] <nabblet> emmet: why mixxx?
[21:52] <emmet> I wanted a virtual dj table.
[21:52] <emmet> autodj etc.
[21:52] <nabblet> ah ok :P
[21:53] <emmet> anything else I could use?
[21:53] <emmet> idjc?
[21:53] <nabblet> i hope that works on such low specs
[21:53] <emmet> i think.
[21:53] <nabblet> emmet: i have no experience in such things
[21:53] <emmet> ah.
[21:53] <nabblet> emmet: i know that there is a hand full of software, mixxx being one of them
[21:53] <emmet> mixxx I couldnt get the deck to play some reason :P
[21:53] <crypticmofo> bekks:  thanks .. a little google love helped me .. a video tut http://is.gd/ONbYB9 on how to disable my touchpad in the bios
[21:54] <crypticmofo> don't we all love google ?
[21:54] <mrrcp> yep
[21:54] <emmet> the only dj software I used in the past is sam broadcaster on windows a long time ago.
[21:54] <crypticmofo> s/little/lot/
[21:54] <bekks> crypticmofo: I never google for video tutorials - I hat'em. :)
[21:55] <crypticmofo> lol
[21:55] <nabblet> emmet: i think there is also something with bpm in its name
[21:55] <Ubuntuuser1> Here You are http://askubuntu.com/questions/341700/how-to-resize-my-window-to-normal-full-screen-again
[21:55] <nabblet> emmet: use the software center to search
[21:56] <Ubuntuuser1> the message was checked and "corrected" for grammar errors...
[21:56] <emmet> ermmm wow mp3 plugins arent installed :P
[21:56] <dan123_> what software can I use in a client to scan with a scanner attached to a server over the network?
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntuuser1, Take a look here in the xrandr info. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:57] <Ubuntuuser1> OK will do, TY
[21:57] <downloader> I have no volume applet in the upper right "taskbar". How do I get it back?
[21:57] <downloader> I can't right-click on the taskbar
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> downloader, what desktop, what ubuntu release?
[21:58] <downloader> gnome, 13.04
[21:58] <downloader> wilee-nilee: ^
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> downloader, gnome underpins multiple desktops
[21:59] <downloader> wilee-nilee: What is an example of a desktop?
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> unity, the gnome shell, the fallback...etc
[21:59] <downloader> wilee-nilee: unit
[21:59] <downloader> unity
[21:59] <Ubuntuuser1> I have it.. but this isn't solution I am not into programming
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> downloader, any background on it disappearing?
[21:59] <mrrcp> Ubuntuuser1: your going to need to try that
[22:00] <Ubuntuuser1> I just want to have full screen size application window back running
[22:00] <mrrcp> have you restarted?
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntuuser1, Neither am I, if you want to fix this, two things don't complain when we don't hold your hand and use the tools we give you.
[22:00] <downloader> wilee-nilee: I installed 64-bit over my 32-bit installation, kept home directory. I also run xmonad for another user if that matters
[22:01] <flintstone> I edit my resolv.conf with other dns ips and when my pc restarts it reverts to the loopback interface 127.0.1.1 ? why and how can I stop it from writing over my changes?
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> downloader, Not sure on that.
[22:01] <Ubuntuuser1> action-reaction
[22:01] <Ubuntuuser1> why should I read if You don't know the answer
[22:02] <tgm4883> flintstone, http://askubuntu.com/a/157192/2159
[22:02] <flintstone> ok tnx
[22:02] <tgm4883> flintstone, although really you should do it in network manager
[22:02] <Ubuntuuser1> anyway if you can't solve this simple request
[22:02] <Ubuntuuser1> ...
[22:02] <tgm4883> Ubuntuuser1, seriously?
[22:02] <Ubuntuuser1> btw F11 button won't do it
[22:02] <mrrcp> Ubuntuuser1: You need to follow the steps
[22:03] <flintstone> i have made the changes in network manager also, every time my pc restarts it overwrites my nameserver back to 127.0.1.1
[22:03] <Ubuntuuser1> it shouldn't be that time consuming
[22:04] <tgm4883> Ubuntuuser1, does the application support full screen?
[22:06] <mrrcp> heh
[22:06] <tomasso> whats the best remote desktop for ubuntu? i tried teamviewer but fails when doing incoming connections, and seems bad quality since it uses wine.. trying rdp server.. but i connect from my android and the screen is black and dont see anything
[22:07] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:07] <sam113101> ENJOY THE SHOW
[22:09] <ddssc> anyone got hdmi out working with optimus setup?
[22:11] <Discordian93> Hello
[22:11] <Discordian93> I need some help
[22:11] <Discordian93> I installed the program "aseprite" but it can't save files for some reason
[22:12] <Discordian93> it's from the official repo, it's bugged, how can i contact the mantainer of a package?
[22:12] <columb> I hate dealing with drivers. Default - high compiz cpu usage (no luck with solutions from google). Proprietary - fails to VESA after I tried my SSD on other machine. Now it's even keep falling from VESA to gallium. High cpu, visual bugs. :(
[22:13] <tgm4883> Discordian93, have you tried filing a bug
[22:13] <Discordian93> haven't had a single problem with drivers myself, been running this machine with ubuntu for almost two years and nvidia-altest works fine
[22:14] <Discordian93> how do i file a bug?
[22:14] <tgm4883> Discordian93, "ubuntu-bug aseprite"
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> !bug
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> !info aseprite
[22:14] <Discordian93> okay, didn't know that! it's good to know!
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> id make sure its not somthing else going on with it. and prove its an actual bug.
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> seems like a rather obvious issue
[22:16] <Discordian93> I dunno, I have tried saving on all different file formats, different resolutions, different sprites...
[22:16] <Discordian93> no way to save anything
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> err. that app opens a little bitty window here. with half the menu utems not even shown.
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> egads how old is aseprite. It looks like somthing from the  70's
[22:16] <Discordian93> you can fullscreen it
[22:16] <Discordian93> it's retro
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> i cant get it to fullscreen or even resize
[22:16] <Discordian93> I just want a quick tool to make some sprites to play with html5 game engines
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> the app is totally useless here.
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> Find more information in ASEPRITE web site: http://www.aseprite.org/
[22:18] <columb> Tried to install drivers according  BinaryHowTo/ati on ubuntu wiki. Black screen on boot. After restoring old xorg.conf system uses gallium.
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> there we go.. got a useable window with --> aseprite  -resolution 600x800x8
[22:19] <Discordian93> can you save your work in aseprite?
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> Discordian93:  yes i was able to save
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> i am on 13.10 however
[22:20] <Discordian93> I am too
[22:20] <Discordian93> wait
[22:20] <Discordian93> 13.10?
[22:20] <Discordian93> beta?
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> aseprite  --help
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> ASEPRITE v0.9.5 | Allegro Sprite Editor | A pixel art program
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> Yes. 13.10 is in testing
[22:20] <Discordian93> might be worth trying out
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> !info aseprite
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> looks like the same version is in 13.04
[22:21] <Discordian93> well
[22:21] <Discordian93> I don't know what the problem could possibly be, then
[22:22] <dan123_> hello, I installed sane and configured port 6566 to scan over the network. The client is not detecting the scanner and when I do a telnet ip_server 6566 the connection is closed almost immediately. Any clue on what can I do?
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> run it from terminal look for error messages
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> Discordian93:  you are saveing the stuff to your home?  ;) the file manager dialog in that app is a bit nasty
[22:23] <Discordian93> yes I'm saving it to home/images
[22:23] <Discordian93> wellm, home/Imágenes
[22:23] <Discordian93> maybe it can't handle spanish?
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> i just saved it to my home directory
[22:25] <Discordian93> okayy
[22:25] <Discordian93> I was able to save it in my home
[22:25] <Discordian93> weird
[22:25] <Discordian93> it doesn't work in the images folder
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> it dosent like UTF filename/unicode stuff
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> aparently
[22:25] <Discordian93> should still report a bug
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> given how weirdly that app seems to be coded.. :) good luck.
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> id mention it at the apps homepage.
[22:26] <Discordian93> i ahve sent them a tweet
[22:27] <Discordian93> and now i realize i know what unicode is. If you had spat that at me a year ago, i would have said, wtf is utf/unicode man? I am becoming nerdier since I started programming
[22:28] <fruco> fanda?
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> fruco:  huh?
[22:28] <fruco> ps?
[22:29] <asafegous> I updated my ubuntu/gnome to 13.04 and cairo dock is showing black wallpaper
[22:29] <asafegous> Sign in and any other session is fine
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> cairo dock needs compositing enabled.  What window manager are you having the issue with?
[22:30] <asafegous> Winfow manager?
[22:30] <asafegous> Window
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> Yes. the Window manager you using has to have the compositing feature for the transparency effects to work
[22:31] <asafegous> How do I change this
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing_window_manager
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> change what Exactly? give us details as to whats happening and when.
[22:32] <asafegous> I upgraded today and now no wallpaper
[22:32] <asafegous> Black
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> so you are meaning to say the 'cairo dock' session from Lightdm , is not showing the wallpaper?
[22:33] <chocolatemousse> morning ubuntu support channel
[22:33] <chocolatemousse> evening
[22:33] <chocolatemousse> afternoon :P
[22:33] <asafegous> yup
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> you can run cairo dock on any desktop session if you wanted to. I think it also adds in some minimal desktop that just runs the dock. I never use that session.
[22:34] <chocolatemousse> I had a really great idea for the support channel - an irc plugin for support tickets
[22:34] <chocolatemousse> So we can see who needs help with what and is being helped by whom
[22:34] <asafegous> Really
[22:34] <tgm4883> chocolatemousse, OT, and I'm not sure why that would be a good thing
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> chocolatemousse  ubuntu help forums do exist
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  and given the nature of the people in this room. many of us  have to leave with out a moments notice.
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  and askubuntu.com is also very handy
[22:35] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: exactly
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> exactly what?
[22:35] <green_geeky_dude> lol
[22:36]  * Dr_Willis ends up playing 20 questions more then he helps it seems at times..
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  its also best to not PM people without asking. I tend to totally ignore most pm's
[22:38] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: mm sorry
[22:38] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, never come across that bit of advice before
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> when you get 1000+ people in a support room and the helopers can vanish at a moments notice in the middle of helping.. You really dont want to have to repeate everything to a new helper
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> Plus theres often differances/mistakes made that others can catch
[22:39] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, well exactly
[22:39] <Vin0> I updated my video card drivers and now it's booting me into a command line. how do i figure out where the problem is?
[22:40] <chocolatemousse> Again these are very good reasons to have ticketed irc support
[22:40] <Skunk8> Is this just a support channel?
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  i dont see what a ticket will give us.. really.
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> Skunk8:  yes basically.
[22:40] <chocolatemousse> Skunk8: yes
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> Skunk8  it is
[22:40] <Skunk8> I see.
[22:41] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, well, you obviously don't agree, but you've been helpful just the same :D
[22:41] <Skunk8> Is there an Ubuntu discussion channel? General chat?
[22:41] <chocolatemousse> Skunk8: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> chocolatemousse  i guess professional, paid suport has what you suggest here
[22:41] <Skunk8> Thank you.
[22:41] <chocolatemousse> MonkeyDust, Oh, does a system like I suggest already exist in the paid support?
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> ive never really figured out what 'paid support' does :)  are there people actually PAYING support fees to be told how to 'format a usb flash drive' or 'erase a cd-rw' and so forth? ;)
[22:42] <chocolatemousse> MonkeyDust, not general paid support, mind, Ubuntu paid support
[22:42] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, well they pay someone presumably at Ubuntu I imagine to be their computer gremlin
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> chocolatemousse  well, yes, i guess so
[22:43] <chocolatemousse> I.e. you or I can safely never come back to this channel if we don't want to
[22:43] <chocolatemousse> The Paid people can't.
[22:44] <chocolatemousse> But yeah I imagine they are basically paying for the free stuff you can get in here anyways.
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> chocolatemousse  i guess every helpdesk or service has such ticketing system
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> service desk*
[22:44] <dtcrshr> whats the fastest / easy way to get back the grub after a windows install in a double system pc?
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  live cd + that boot-repair tool can be handy
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  or the boot-repair live cd. saves a step or 2
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> !boot-repair
[22:44] <chocolatemousse> Also in here, you get random, uncredentialed people helping out, whereas with paid support they are official Ubuntu, so they presumably have some verified skills
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[22:45] <dtcrshr> thanks Dr_Willis ill try the boot repair cd to a usb stick
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> chocolatemousse  that's why they're professional, they make a living out of it, we're just volunteers, we do this for fun
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> I have to 2onder what skills they would need for some of the amazingly obscure, obtuse, and downright WEIRD questions i see in here on a given day. ;)
[22:45] <chocolatemousse> MonkeyDust, exactly :) Although I don't think having tools to make our lives as volunteers easier is a bad thing.
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> I belive we spent most of 3 hrs last night in here - helping a guy repartion and format a 4gb usb flash drive. ;)
[22:46] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: lots and lots of patience. An hourly rate helps with the really stupid questions. ;)
[22:46] <dtcrshr> oh god, a 580mb cd with just this tool?
[22:47] <dtcrshr> Dr_Willis: with a ubuntu stick if I apt-get to install this boot-repair is it that huge?
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> 'tech support' for where i Work. is a company man comming into the factory and working with us -  to fix some multi-million dollar machine.. Not 'format a usb disk'
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  so use a live cd you allready have.
[22:47] <dtcrshr> I was wondering a 2mb maybe
[22:47] <dtcrshr> yeah.. ill do that thanks
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> hopefully boot-repair will get on the default desktop cd someday soon
[22:47] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, right, but does that 'million' dollar machine run linux?
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> that boot-repair cd is a 32bit/64bit cd. and can also do some other tasks
[22:48] <chocolatemousse> And is he just reading a manual someone else wrote ;)
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  Im talking about Million Doller CNC machineing machines.. Not pc's
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> one 'crash' at work = 80,000$ in parts to fix.
[22:48] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: well a bit off topic, but those CNC machines presumably have some embedded systems in them, some of which might be running embedded linux
[22:48] <dtcrshr> Dr_Willis: we have some sewing industrial machines here, mostly running embeded java / linux mashups
[22:49] <dtcrshr> im on brasil
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> 'support' was the guy showing us how to replace the Huge bit that was broken. and why it crashed in the first place.
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> but i bet we have a support 'contract' with the company that made the machine
[22:49] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: may have some commercial systems in them as well, but again that amounts to someone reading someone else's manual and the FIXME routines located theirin.
[22:49] <tgm4883> Dr_Willis, I'd imagine that paid ubuntu support is similar. eg. I've got some certified ubuntu hardware and this supported app keeps crashing
[22:50] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, I mean, sheesh, you offer better support than most Indian Call-Centers, and you do it for free.
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> so i bet 99% of the questions in here would not be supported. because theya re not on the list of apps or hardware.
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  whats funny.. im in here giving 'support' WHile im at work most of the time..  (on standby to fix anything the breaks/crashes) ;P
[22:51] <tgm4883> Dr_Willis, probably
[22:51] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, whatever works :)
[22:52] <lone> hey
[22:53] <b166er> hello
[22:55] <b166er> does canonical have a room?
[22:55] <lone> I've downloaded multibootusb_6.4-1_all.deb and trying to install it but ubuntu software center show an error 'Dependency is not satisfiable:gambas3-runtime(>=3.0.90)' what can I do?
[22:55] <raub> tgm4883: AFAIK that is how the Redhat Support for their enterprise server works. Depending what you have that is not working, they will build a patch as needed. I was told of times they wrote drivers for their commercial customers before
[22:55] <lone> help me.
[22:55] <raub> I assume canonical commercial support is right up to that level
[22:56] <tgm4883> raub, I would assume so as well
[22:56] <b166er> does anyone know how I can donate to canonical
[22:56] <tgm4883> b166er, I think there are donation links on the download page
[22:56] <raub> lone: If you are getting a .deb, expect dependency issues
[22:57] <lone> @raub so how can i install it?
[22:57] <b166er> I tried the donate page before you download the desktop version of ubuntu. but when I click pay with paypal. a unauthorize message on their website appears
[22:57] <raub> FInd all the packages it depends on and install them
[22:57] <lone> how? @raub
[22:58] <raub> lone: is that package available through one of the ubuntu repositories?
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> installing a .deb ? use 'sudo dpkg -i'  or 'sudo gdebi foo.deb'  and the gedbi app SHOULD install all needed deps
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> lone:  i found that multiboot tool.. handy. but egads the dependencies it pulls in when installed..
[22:59] <raub> Dr_Willis: and here I am thinking a .deb is like a rpm ;)
[22:59] <lone> i've downloaded it from sourceforge.net
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> a deb is similer to a rpm
[22:59] <raub> Sounds like dpkg is much fancier than rpm
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> but most of the time you use a tool like 'gdebi' to install the rpm.  not the lower level 'dpkg -i'
[22:59] <raub> lone: follow what Dr_Willis said
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> dpkg is a basic  low level tool.  gdebi and the other package tools handle the dependencies
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> if you just double click on the .deb the software center is supposed to ask/install/ and grab the dependencies also
[23:00] <b166er> so. opinion. openoffice or libreoffice?
[23:00] <b166er> just for compatibility with MS
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> openoffice is basically dead as far as i know
[23:01] <TM26> Hey , some one can tellme , if i can install ubuntu  13.10 in a partition on mi disk with 15 gib ?????
[23:01] <raub> Oh ok. On a somewhat related topic, canonical/ubuntu use jenkins, right?
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  you should be able to.
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> i got 13.10 running from a 16gb USB flash drive
[23:01] <b166er> openoffice dead? I just installed 4.0
[23:01] <raub> b166er: AFAIK openoffice is on the way out. THey moved all the stuff to libre
[23:01] <b166er> pewp
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> b166er:  I rarely hear openoffice mentioned any more. its all libreoffice
[23:02] <raub> Some issue with Oracle (as usual) being you-know-what
[23:02] <b166er> well. good I couldnt figure out how to create desktop icons for openoffice anyway
[23:02] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, anyways if you don't mind answering what are you running on all day mostly then? Windows XP? Or Some RedHat box?
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> yet another case of  a big company stabbing a project in the back
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  most of the time.. android. ;)
[23:02]  * raub is pissed with what Oracle did to Solaris and SUn
[23:02] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, makes sense I guess
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  Im at work - on my android tablet most of the time. with an occasional ssh into the home box. I got a netbook with 13.10 at work i use sometimes
[23:03] <bl4ckdu5t> how can I view hidden folders(not ignoring entries with .) with nautilus?
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> bl4ckdu5t:  ctrl-h. its in themenus
[23:03] <TM26> Dr_Willis thanks !!! Does not crash ????
[23:03] <chocolatemousse> b166er, Dr_Willis OpenOffice is not very popular, but apparently Apache is actually developing on it - I hear its no longer got much in common (besides UI/file support) with the old OO
[23:04] <bl4ckdu5t> Dr_Willis: ok
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> all my word processing these days i do in Abiword
[23:04] <chocolatemousse> b166er, so its kinda like the KOffice suite or Calligra or something
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[23:04] <chocolatemousse> Or yeah Abiword
[23:04] <TM26> Dr_Willis and i can move /home after install the system
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  if you got the skills.. yes. thats rather eays to do
[23:04] <chocolatemousse> Small user base, not much of a community - but that's mostly hearsay.
[23:05] <raub> Which reminds me: does ubuntu still get pissy if you move var from / to its own partiion down the line?
[23:05] <b166er> well. back to libreoffrice for the wife then
[23:05] <TM26> Dr_Willis you know some tutorials to see and follow the steps ????
[23:05] <reisio> raub: did it ever?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> raub:  that might be part of the reason theres  the /run/ stuff now. but i havent really read much up on it.
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  ive used linux so long.. its a trivial task to me. ;P
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  havent needed a tutorial for such a basic thing in years
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> !movehome
[23:06] <raub> reisio: the bug for that is still open. Was for 10.04 originally
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> mount the new location to /home2/  copy home to home2, edit fstab to point to the right place. renameing it home. reboot ;)
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  you could even have your /home/ split across differnt partions, or disks if you wanted to. ;) My main user has his own home on the ssd . everyone else is on the slower hd.
[23:07] <reisio> raub: weird
[23:07] <raub> Dr_Willis: I would add to do it in recovery/single user mode
[23:08] <raub> reisio: it bit us royally when we started using lvm
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> I am my only user logged in most of the time. ;) unless the wife is on the Plex media server.
[23:08] <raub> Dr_Willis: so there is yet another new directory in /. Lovely
[23:08] <reisio> raub: what do you use lvm for? :)
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> raub:  use of /run/ was supposed to allow for moveing other things to their own partions or somthing.. i cant recall where i read about it
[23:10] <tgm4883> raub, I've gotta ask, who cares?
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> raub: https://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory
[23:11] <raub> reisio: much easier to partition your HD using LVM. ext4 does not like being scaled down like jfs, buthey
[23:11] <raub> tgm4883: about?
[23:11] <reisio> tgm4883: people who've already experienced it working without such things? :)
[23:11] <reisio> raub: yeah, but why would you need to scale it
[23:11] <Dr_Willis>   /run is a new cross-distribution location for the storage of transient state files
[23:11] <lone> can i install tar.gz on ubuntu 12.04
[23:11] <lone> ?
[23:11] <tgm4883> raub, who cares about a new directory in /
[23:11] <reisio> lone: probably, but why?
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> lone:  totally depends on whats IN the archive. tha tis just an archive..
[23:12] <lone> oh.
[23:12] <xangua> lone if you are still wanting to install multisystem here are the instrucctions to add their repository http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install
[23:12] <TM26> Dr_willis ,... O !!!! Hey then if i can install on a 15 gb partition ... I have no problems with /var /usr to install more program ???
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  if you got the space.. why split everything up?
[23:12] <fanda5> hi
[23:12] <raub> tgm4883: I do not partion my linux boxes shoving everything in /, so it matters to me
[23:12] <xangua> Méthode N° 1-Bis (base Ubuntu/Debian) lone
[23:13] <HAMSHAMA> wat is a linucks
[23:13] <tgm4883> raub, so then 1 user
[23:13] <b166er> thanks for the info guys.
[23:13] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: how to add to the factoid database?
[23:13] <chocolatemousse> '/run' should probably be in there
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  hmm. i forget..  try !factoid
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> most people dont even notice the /run/ changes ;)
[23:13] <raub> tgm4883: exactly
[23:14] <tgm4883> raub, ok, just wanted to know
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> Making the /run directory available brings us a step closer to the point where it is possible to use the system normally with the root filesystem mounted read-only, without requiring any clunky workarounds such as aufs/unionfs overlays.
[23:14] <TM26> Dr_willis i detect that my system crash with compiz , and thats what i want to split , to recover the system or reinstall without losing files !!!! :)
[23:14] <JetDog> Hi all, would anyone know off hand if the nvidia proprietary driver can switch off the nvidia card with vga_switcheroo when used with hybrid graphics?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  you can boot to the text/console and try to fix things
[23:14] <chocolatemousse> A factoid is a factoid, regardless of popularity. ;)
[23:15] <raub> Dr_Willis: that is good; I already run /boot and /usr read only
[23:15] <raub> Would like to have root read only too
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> raub:  and Now you know why they have gone the /run/ route.
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> its been in Ubuntu since 11.10 it seems
[23:15] <raub> even if, as tgm4883 pointed out, I am the only person who cares about that ;)
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/57297/why-has-var-run-been-migrated-to-run
[23:16] <chocolatemousse> Ah well I cannot find the factoid login - I'd be happy just to push something to a git repo, but no dice, they've hidden the information
[23:16] <TM26> Dr_willis :( no it says that i have no permision and dont even star , and system cant mont / and ask me to mount manualy
[23:16] <TM26> Hajaja mount ....
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  if you gie the channel more details - i bet they can help you
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> unless the system is totally broken. and compiz wouldent do that
[23:17] <Nep[Tablet]> ... I need a bit of help here.
[23:17] <Henix_Aurorus> My bad, wrong nick
[23:18] <Henix_Aurorus> *ahem*
[23:18] <Henix_Aurorus> As I was saying
[23:18] <Henix_Aurorus> I need a bit of help with ndiswrapper
[23:18] <TM26> Dr_Willis  im using tails , and i open the Hdd and i think i change the permision ...
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  who knows what all you messed up then. ;)
[23:19] <TM26> But also somebody tell me that my system crash ...and i got to make a new partition with system and home separately
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> unless its totally busted. You should be able to get to your files with a live cd and back the,m up somewhere.
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> but do what you want. ;)
[23:20] <Henix_Aurorus> Basically, I'm trying to install drivers for my NETGEAR WG311v3 network card, and I've done everything correctly (all the way up to juggling OSes probably fifty times), but when I try actually getting the system to use the drivers, it returns "module ndiswrapper not found"
[23:21] <Henix_Aurorus> Is there something I'm doing wrong?
[23:21] <lone> how to format a usb on ubuntu 12.04
[23:22] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, well looks like I have to find someone with a special status, but the wiki doesn't even make it clear if that's a wiki status or an irc one ;)
[23:22] <chocolatemousse> Or even which wiki/irc
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> lone:  gparted. or mkfs.whatever as needed
[23:22] <raub> Henix_Aurorus: do you need to use dniswrapper?
[23:22] <Henix_Aurorus> Lone: Disk Utility is what you need
[23:22] <Henix_Aurorus> Raub: yes
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  theres the bots channel. :) or #ubuntu-ops that may know
[23:22] <raub> lone: or parted/gparted/fdisk
[23:23] <Henix_Aurorus> My network is WPA2, so I have to use the original drivers
[23:23] <raub> Isn't there a link for partitoning?
[23:23] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, saved for future reference, too much of a bother right now
[23:25] <raub> Henix_Aurorus: there is not package for ndiswrapper?
[23:25] <raub> s/not/no/
[23:25] <lone> Disk Utility says 'The Device is Busy'. what to do?
[23:25] <Henix_Aurorus> There is, I already installed it
[23:25] <Henix_Aurorus> Which is why I'm confused
[23:26] <raub> try to modprobe it then
[23:26] <chocolatemousse> paste of Ubuntu info dump: http://pastebin.com/UQzd9ZDU
[23:26] <chocolatemousse> In case anyone's interested
[23:26] <chocolatemousse> Ubuntu Ubottu*
[23:26] <Henix_Aurorus> The thing is I've done that like a million times :/
[23:27] <xangua> lone: unmount it
[23:27] <Henix_Aurorus> Because as was just demonstrated, it says he same thing
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> lone:  unmount the filesystem befor you work on it. (you may need to unmount it via the command line)
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> lone:  close out all apps accessing the filesystem also
[23:27] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, I've fixed wifi drivers by recompiling the source, and I'm telling you know if you want any hope of getting this fixed, you need to be a LOT more specific
[23:28] <chocolatemousse> s/know/now/
[23:28] <raub> I think if he is using gparted he can unmount/whatever from there
[23:28] <chocolatemousse> Version numbers, card type, linux kernel version
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> gparted may fail to unmount. if an app is accessing the filesystem
[23:28] <lone> how to unmount via command line?
[23:28] <raub> lsof should help then
[23:29] <TM26> Dr_willis jahahahaha  yrah i think i will reinstall all system ... And with the help you give me well its al solved !!!
[23:29] <Henix_Aurorus> Ubuntu 12.04, WG311v3 card, ndiswrapper is 1.57
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> lone:  sudo umount /dev/sdXX
[23:29] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, Generally, if there's a wifi issue and ndiswrapper A) you're doing it wrong B) ndiswrapper isn't going to work C) you need to find the linux drivers for your card
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> lone:  mount command will show whats mounted where
[23:29] <raub> chocolatemousse: I think his card uses the Marvell 88w8335 Chipset
[23:30] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, Ok, have you looked online for 'linux drivers  WG311v3' ?
[23:30] <Henix_Aurorus> Yes, that
[23:30] <chocolatemousse> raub: ok thans
[23:30] <TM26> Dr_willia there are commands to purge obsolet packages  right ????
[23:30] <raub> Don't know what else uses it
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  theres apt-get auto-remove
[23:30] <TM26> Dr_willis haja thanks for you help !!!!!!
[23:31] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, have you already tried doing something like this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/marvell-88w8335-chipset-netgear-wg311-pcicard-driver/ ?
[23:32] <Henix_Aurorus> Chocolatemousse: that's more or less what I've been doing, and it works up to the modprobe
[23:33] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, ok, looking at that page there are 4 drivers you may have to try, the original one they ask you to get on that page is missing
[23:33] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, ok so 'ndiswrapper -l' outputs the same thing as in that guide?
[23:33] <Henix_Aurorus> Yes
[23:34] <chocolatemousse> What is the problem with the sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[23:34] <Henix_Aurorus> It returns a "module not found" error
[23:35] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus run 'dpkg -l ndiswrapper*' and 'uname -r' for me
[23:35] <xangua> Henix_Aurorus: did you select the inf file from the windows XP drivers¿
[23:36] <chocolatemousse> s/run/run the output/
[23:36] <Henix_Aurorus> One moment
[23:36] <Henix_Aurorus> And yes xangua I did
[23:36] <Impossible> how do i see what processes are running
[23:36] <raub> Impossible: ps -aux is a good place to start
[23:37] <Impossible> how do i kill a process
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> Impossible: easiest way 'killall process'
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> Impossible: reliable way 'sudo kill -kill pidofprocess'
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> where pidofprocess is a number
[23:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo, I have a number of *.jar files distributed in a number of folders; I'm trying to use the find command to copy them to the root folder of the tree; the command I'm currently using is find . -iname "*.jar" | xargs cp .; this is not doing the trick; any suggestions?
[23:37] <raub> chocolatemousse: I was going to say shout really loud, but you replied first
[23:38] <Impossible> thanks chocolatemousse
[23:38] <Henix_Aurorus> Okay so
[23:38] <pythonuklearner> Where to direct quickly questions when the python channel doesn't really care?
[23:38] <Henix_Aurorus> The dpkg -l spits out a bunch of "no package" lines
[23:38] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner /dev/null :P
[23:38] <chocolatemousse> JK
[23:39] <raub> ntzrmtthihu777: get rid of the pipe part and see if find gives back what you want
[23:39] <Henix_Aurorus> And uname -r returns 3.8.0-29-generic
[23:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> nevermind,lol. I figured it out with the -exec option.
[23:39] <raub> then add pipe
[23:39] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner: that or rtfm
[23:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> raub: yes, it gave me exactly what I wanted.
[23:39] <raub> ntzrmtthihu777: nice
[23:39] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner: and lastly, reword your question ;)
[23:39] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner: #lifeadvice
[23:39] <pythonuklearner> chocolatemousse: Thanks :) I'm not struggling with the instructions; I can't get the media player plugin to work or find documentation about it
[23:40] <chocolatemousse> pythonkuklearner: yeah that's not a python question
[23:40] <chocolatemousse> They wouldn't care aboutit
[23:40] <pythonuklearner> chocolatemousse: I'm having a hard time finding somebody that does lol
[23:40] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearn: find which media player plugin it is, then maybe they might be able to help, if they know anything
[23:41] <Henix_Aurorus> Chocolatemousse
[23:41] <Henix_Aurorus> The dpkg -l spits out a bunch of "no package" lines
[23:41] <Henix_Aurorus> And uname -r returns 3.8.0-29-generic
[23:41] <Henix_Aurorus> In case you missed it
[23:42] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus: change to a different directory and re-run that dpkg -l command
[23:42] <Henix_Aurorus> Does it matter which directory?
[23:42] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, you're probably in ~/Downloads, amiright?
[23:42] <Henix_Aurorus> Actually my home folder
[23:42] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, the command gets confused if it finds a file in the current directory with the same name
[23:42] <Henix_Aurorus> Ohhhh
[23:43] <chocolatemousse> So: 'mkdir ~/emptydirectory; dpkg -l ndis*'
[23:43] <chocolatemousse> err
[23:43] <chocolatemousse> 'mkdir ~/emptydirectory; cd ~/emptydirectory; dpkg -l ndis*'
[23:43] <pythonuklearner> chocolatemousse: It's in the standard ubuntu repository I'm guessing, sudo apt-get install quickly-widgets and then there is a from quickly.widgets.media_player_box import MediaPlayerBox but googling about it gets nothing unfortunately
[23:44] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner, that's a start, but I don't know anything about quickly widgets
[23:44] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner, find someone who does
[23:44] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner, maybe find the project for quickly?
[23:46] <Henix_Aurorus> Okay so I'm seeing a list of what I assume to be packages, and at the top is a string I'll have to put through my sophisticated inter-OS file transfer device (AKA my thumb drive) becuase I'm not typing that entire thing on my tablet
[23:46] <Henix_Aurorus> So uh
[23:46] <Henix_Aurorus> Gimme a moment
[23:46] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, use pastebinit
[23:46] <chocolatemousse> dpkg -l ndis* | pastebinit
[23:46] <chocolatemousse> copy past the url
[23:46] <Henix_Aurorus> Can't
[23:46] <chocolatemousse> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:47] <chocolatemousse> Ah, no wireless
[23:47] <chocolatemousse> right
[23:47] <Henix_Aurorus> Yeah
[23:47] <chocolatemousse> wait so how did you install ndiswrapper if you don't have wireless?
[23:47] <chocolatemousse> Step #1 won't work without internet
[23:47] <Henix_Aurorus> The file transfer system I mentioned a couple lines ago
[23:48] <Henix_Aurorus> Which basically is my fancy way of saying I've been juggling OSes and putting the files I need on my thumb drice
[23:48] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, ok, so you did something like sudo apt-get download ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 on another device and sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ?
[23:49] <Henix_Aurorus> Not exactly
[23:49] <chocolatemousse> Well anyways in that case dpkg -l ndis* > /myflashdrive/output.txt
[23:49] <Henix_Aurorus> Dug htrogh launchpad on windows, downloaded the files, and THEN put them on he thumbdrive
[23:49] <chocolatemousse> Ick.
[23:49] <Henix_Aurorus> Yeah
[23:50] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, may I recommend Wubi (if they still have that) on Windows
[23:50] <Henix_Aurorus> Unfottunately it's my only optionright
[23:50] <Henix_Aurorus> ...
[23:50] <lone> what's the best downloader in ubuntu 12.04 like Internet Download Manager in windows?
[23:50] <Henix_Aurorus> Already using wubi actually
[23:51] <chocolatemousse> Good, hopefully it made your life easier.
[23:51] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, brb
[23:51] <Henix_Aurorus> Unfortunately I have hard drive problems, which means I have no other way of using Ubuntu, because gparted completely refuses to resize the partition
[23:53] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, no idea what that problem is, but lets just fix one problem at a time
[23:53] <Henix_Aurorus> Bad sector
[23:53] <chocolatemousse> Mmm
[23:53] <Henix_Aurorus> Is what gparted told me, atl least
[23:54] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, to speed things up a bit, if dpkg -l command's ouput has (ii) next to a ndis-wrapper package, its installed
[23:54] <Henix_Aurorus> It did
[23:54] <chocolatemousse> Its just to verify you have ndiswrapper installed
[23:54] <chocolatemousse> for both ndiswrapper and a '-common package?
[23:54] <Henix_Aurorus> Yes
[23:54] <chocolatemousse> And a utils package presumably
[23:54] <chocolatemousse> ok
[23:54] <Henix_Aurorus> ...wait
[23:55] <Henix_Aurorus> A separate ndiswrapper package, you mean?
[23:55] <lone> best download manager in ubuntu???
[23:55] <lone> Pls
[23:55] <lone> ?
[23:55] <kostkon> !info flareget | lone, check this one:
[23:55] <kostkon> damn
[23:56] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, there should be at least two ndiswrapper packages, one that's common, another that is utils
[23:56] <kostkon> lone, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/flareget/
[23:56] <Henix_Aurorus> yeah, that's what showed up
[23:56] <chocolatemousse> And both should be (ii)
[23:57] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, I'd ask in #kernel or #wifi but you may also need ndiswrapper-dkms, not sure about that though
[23:57] <chocolatemousse> dkms is a new kernel thing, but I think its mainly used if you're compiling stuff
[23:58] <Henix_Aurorus> I can try if you give me a moment
[23:58] <Henix_Aurorus> Because in a couple seconds I should have a string to throw your way
[23:59] <Henix_Aurorus> ...if of course Windows would function. This is precisely why I'm trying to switch tomlinux
[23:59] <L-sama> hello, I am trying to share drives via network between windows and ubuntu
[23:59] <Henix_Aurorus> -m