[01:45] <davecheney> this week in silly juju tricks http://dave.cheney.net/2013/09/09/using-juju-to-build-gccgo
[11:26] <mthaddon> who do I talk to about https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/quantal/juju-quick-start.html being out of date (pyJuju vs. juju-core for instance)?
[11:27] <elmo> mthaddon: quantal?
[11:28] <elmo> mthaddon: in any event, evilnick owns docs for both maas and juju AFAIK
[11:28] <mthaddon> hmm, right - not sure how I got to quantal docs, will see if I can backtrack
[11:28] <mthaddon> but http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/juju-quick-start.html also mentions "It has to completely install Ubuntu and Zookeeper"
[11:29] <mthaddon> evilnickveitch: ^
[11:31] <evilnickveitch> mthaddon, hi, yeah, I can update MAAS docs
[11:31] <mthaddon> evilnickveitch: cool, per above it looks to be referencing pyJuju still
[11:32] <evilnickveitch> mthaddon, okay, it probably needs a good going over anyhow.
[11:41] <mthaddon> ah, so the reason I was in those docs is "Get Started Now" off https://maas.ubuntu.com/ takes you to https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/quantal/install.html
[11:41] <mthaddon> the documentation link from the top nav takes you to http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/ though
[11:43] <evilnickveitch> oh, that sucks... I will see if I have access to update the link too
[12:42] <jcastro> evilnickveitch: a maas-docs sprint wouldn't be a bad idea!
[12:43] <evilnickveitch> jcastro, it would certainly help if someone read it now and again
[13:49] <aethelrick> hello all, I'm using juju in local mode and I've added a postgresql service that works quite nicely. I would like to connect pgAdmin3 to this from my host machine but my changes to the pg_hba.conf are destroyed on boot. What's the correct way to make this configuration persistent?
[13:50] <aethelrick> should I been looking at a custom charm for postgres hosted on my machine or is their a way to do this using the original charm from the charm store?
[13:51] <AskUbuntu> Juju - Installing ceph and ceph-osd charms on same machine? | http://askubuntu.com/q/343349
[13:53] <marcoceppi> aethelrick: there's no way to currently do this from the charm, unfortuantely. There is a postgresql-psql charm though that might be of assitance though.
[13:54] <marcoceppi> aethelrick: I've not used pgAdmin3 before, so I can't say for certain if it will help you or not
[13:54] <marcoceppi> aethelrick: https://jujucharms.com/precise/postgresql-psql-HEAD/
[13:56] <aethelrick> marcoceppi, thanks for the links, I've already had a look at the postgres-psql charm, and it overcomes the same problem for itself, but it runs as a service itself, whereas pgAdmin is running on my host and needs to connect to one of my service instances
[13:58] <aethelrick> I need some simple way of add-relation to machine "0" I suppose, but the documentation does not seem to suggest this is possible
[14:00] <marcoceppi> aethelrick: that's not possible. Let me play with pgadmin to see if I can get you an answer
[14:02] <rick_h> marcoceppi: so yea, the trouble is the need to add access to the outside world to pgsql via the pg_hba.conf (which lists the ip ranges/user allowed to auth)
[14:02] <marcoceppi> aethelrick: you could create an SSH tunnel to either the psql service or the postgresql service to avoid having to edit the pg_hba conf
[14:02] <aethelrick> marcoceppi, the other thing I may be able to do is use SSH tunnels via the postgres-psql service
[14:02] <aethelrick> hehe... great minds think alike apparently!
[14:03] <marcoceppi> Honestly, with the way charms are designed, you should never have to ssh in and change things. If you wanted to be able to add external IP addresses to the pg_hba conf, it should be done via a charm configuration option. Something like "external_access" and you can set a list of IP addresses to be amended to the allow list
[14:03] <marcoceppi> aethelrick: if you were looking to do that, it'd be a great addition to the charm, otherwise I think a tunnel is the only way to go
[14:04] <aethelrick> yeah, I think I'll add the option  to the charm... I'll go read the charm writing howto and get back to you
[14:04] <aethelrick> :D
[14:05] <marcoceppi> aethelrick: feel free to ping the channel with any questions you may have! The postgres charm is a bit more of an "advanced" charm, and uses a single hook file as opposed to many different ones
[14:05] <jcastro> aethelrick: a new charm option would be badass!
[14:06]  * aethelrick is off to read the docs...
[14:32] <jcastro> jamespage: this one's for you! http://askubuntu.com/questions/343349/installing-ceph-and-ceph-osd-charms-on-same-machine
[14:33] <sinzui> jcastro, charmers, This is the listing of charm READMEs with odd names: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6083706/
[14:33] <jcastro> ok
[14:34] <jcastro> so I need to fix hive is what you're telling me
[14:34] <sinzui> jcastro,  I think charmers have fixed what they can (except for hive).
[14:35] <jcastro> yeah, and tbh, do we really care about personal branches from oneiric etc?
[14:35] <sinzui> Since Juju-GUI is going to start mixing reviewed and unreviewed charms in listings, These other charms might be a problem
[14:39] <jcastro> yeah but the readmes will just be ugly
[14:39] <jcastro> and the results will weigh towards reviewed charms anyway right?
[14:41] <bac> sinzui, jcastro: md files with extensions of .md, .mkd, and .markdown are all handled identically
[14:41] <bac> sinzui, jcastro: README files, that is
[14:41]  * jcastro nods
[14:41] <jcastro> and hive is committed, that takes care of the store!
[14:42] <sinzui> jcastro, I am tinkering with a search to find reviewed charms with store errors. I'll paste it if I find some
[14:44] <jcastro> sinzui: if it's more than two can you post it to the list?
[14:44] <jcastro> or dude, I have an idea
[14:45] <jcastro> maybe make it so when there's store errors it automagically puts the charm in the review queue?
[14:45] <sinzui> jcastro, exactly why I am tinkering with the query :)
[15:35] <AskUbuntu> Why use blackmagic/witchraft (juju) as the new theme for Ensemble? | http://askubuntu.com/q/343383
[15:50] <jcastro> nice!
[17:45] <jcastro> marcoceppi: yo yo
[17:46] <jcastro> marcoceppi: any idea for questions, etc wrt. testing and charm helpers? http://91.189.93.79/cloud/cookbook/
[19:41] <marcoceppi> jcastro: testing?
[19:42] <jcastro> testing your own charm, etc.
[21:08] <marcoceppi> jcastro: there isn't any written yet