| ScottK | OK. Built. | 00:15 |
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| ScottK | Could someone who's had pykde related trouble in saucy please try the updated sip/pykde4 packages in my PPA? | 00:16 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ Need a guinea pig. | 00:16 |
| yofel | ScottK: is one supposed to update both pykde and sip from the ppa? | 00:47 |
| ScottK | yofel: Yes. | 00:47 |
| yofel | er yeah, I'm too tired to properly read -.- | 00:47 |
| yofel | ScottK: printer-applet, synaptiks and software-properties-kde don't crash anymore | 00:52 |
| manchicken | I'm just now teaching myself some Python. | 01:01 |
| manchicken | I'm even having some problems... but they're not Saucy-related. | 01:02 |
| manchicken | http://pastebin.com/0PuVfd6Q <-- MongoDB's MongoClient is trying to open a separate handle to stderr in each thread. | 01:02 |
| soee | good morning | 06:28 |
| Riddell | ScottK: I get gdebi and synaptiks to work with your PPA | 08:10 |
| Riddell | but not ubuntu-bug | 08:11 |
| Riddell | hmm and kcmshell4 userconfig doesn't run at all but that seems to be a separate issue | 08:13 |
| Riddell | yofel: does ubuntu-bug work for you? | 08:14 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, you are not a Debian Developer, right? | 08:16 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: right I'm not | 08:20 |
| smartboyhw | Sigh | 08:21 |
| smartboyhw | debfx, ping | 08:21 |
| Riddell | Odur: hi, you want to become an elite kubuntu packager? | 09:04 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, you have reminded me to set-up another meeting time for a Dev meeting again:P | 09:04 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: want to go over some library packaging first? | 09:06 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, library packaging? | 09:07 |
| * smartboyhw got one in mentors right now, ready for debfx to sponsor and ScottK to approve in NEW-.- | 09:07 | |
| smartboyhw | (With symbols, multi-arch, everything0 | 09:08 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: can I see it? | 09:08 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/kqoauth/kqoauth_0.98-1.dsc | 09:08 |
| Riddell | hah, qmake :) | 09:10 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, yeah, qmake | 09:11 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 09:11 |
| smartboyhw | You know, qmake scared yofel away:P | 09:11 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: my preference is also to name the patches in debian/changelog so you can easily find later when they were added | 09:11 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, OK | 09:12 |
| Tm_T | +1 for naming patches on changelog | 09:13 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: did you work out what symbols files were for? | 09:13 |
| Tm_T | this thing called communication | 09:13 |
| Riddell | how's this for a new romaniam website? http://geekaliens.com/kubuntu.ro/ | 09:14 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, looks like it's used for generating shlibdeps | 09:14 |
| smartboyhw | https://wiki.debian.org/Projects/ImprovedDpkgShlibdeps is the best link describing it -.- | 09:15 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: yeah it is, for working out what version of a library your package needs to depend on | 09:16 |
| Riddell | what would you do if you were packaging a new version and symbols were missing? | 09:16 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, check where it has gone | 09:16 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: check if it's a public symbol that an app using the library might use and if so moan to upstream or patch it back in or change the ABI | 09:17 |
| smartboyhw | If it has truly disappeared due to code, then we can remove it. (The best way to check is to ask upstream, since I'm lazy:P, but of course I can do checks myself) | 09:17 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I like moaning upstreams now:P | 09:17 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: we can't just remove symbolsan application might be using it | 09:17 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, that's why moaning to upstream is the best way:P | 09:18 |
| Riddell | we need to either fix it or change the ABI SONAME number | 09:18 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: what do you do with a symbols file when a new library version has a new SONAME | 09:18 |
| Riddell | ? | 09:18 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, bump API + ABI SONAME number? | 09:19 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: it has been bumped in the libary by upstream, what needs changed in the packaging? | 09:20 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, X-Debian-API and the package names, symbols, blah blah blah | 09:20 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: no, X-Debian-API is when upstream haven't changed the soname and we need to force it in | 09:21 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, basically, when upstream bumps it X-Debian-API is not needed, right? | 09:21 |
| Riddell | right | 09:21 |
| Riddell | X-Debian-API is a cludge when upstream change ABI (remove or change symbols) without bumping soname | 09:22 |
| Riddell | if upstream does change soname then we just rename the binary package and start a new symbols file | 09:22 |
| Riddell | and recompile every application which uses the library to link against the new version | 09:22 |
| Riddell | which is called a library transition | 09:22 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, OK | 09:22 |
| Riddell | the rules on what changes in C++ code result in changed or removed symbols are very confusing and upstreams often get them wrong | 09:23 |
| === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.1 saucy/archive raring/backports precise/backports | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support | 13.10 Beta 1 released | Vote time for Dev meeting at http://doodle.com/s3fba8w2nuagg9vv | ||
| smartboyhw | Riddell, it makes sense, nobody wants to touch symbols when everything goes wrong-.- | 09:24 |
| smartboyhw | SONAMES for that matter too | 09:24 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: ooh bonus points, given a library in /usr/lib/libfoo.so.2 how do you find out the soname? | 09:25 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, eh, this is not the official application yet-.- (And anyways, I did use the command objdump) | 09:28 |
| smartboyhw | Find the SONAME in there | 09:28 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, and seriously, leave the theatrics till the application -.- | 09:29 |
| jmux | objdump /usr/lib/libfoo.so.2 -p | grep SONAME | 09:29 |
| smartboyhw | like that;P | 09:30 |
| smartboyhw | jmux, I thought -p is supposed to go in the front of /usr/libfoo.so.2 | 09:30 |
| smartboyhw | (That is my preferred way of adding parameters) | 09:30 |
| Riddell | mm interesting, I use readelf -a /usr/lib/libmarblewidget.so.0.16.1 | grep SONAME | 09:30 |
| Riddell | libmarblewidget is an interesting example of a library where the soname doesn't match the filename | 09:31 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, heh, I thought that is for solaris:P | 09:31 |
| smartboyhw | Anyhow | 09:32 |
| * smartboyhw goes back to his Chinese homework and his Physics revision | 09:33 | |
| Odur | Riddell: yeah, but I'm not sure how much time I have. I'm a medical student... | 09:33 |
| Riddell | Odur: any time you have is welcome | 09:36 |
| jmux | At least the included symbols file should show you, if the symbols have changed before uploading :-) | 09:38 |
| jmux | And there is http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/manual/libtool.html#Versioning to point upstream to... | 09:38 |
| Riddell | libtool, not sure that's going to win any fans :) | 09:39 |
| Riddell | I prefer to point to http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Binary_Compatibility_Issues_With_C++ | 09:39 |
| Riddell | Odur: let me know if you want me to take you through some basic packaging | 09:40 |
| Riddell | Odur: you a kubuntu fan presumably? where from? | 09:40 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, you want me to do some NEW review? In code-of-conduct-signing-assistant it's assigning X-Python-Version as 3.2 and build-dep as python-all, I would rather prefer the build-dep be python3-all-dev (>= 3.2) | 09:41 |
| smartboyhw | *python3-all (first build-dep) | 09:42 |
| smartboyhw | (Waiting for you Riddell, I got another package to complain here:P) | 09:44 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: python3-all-dev has the C header files I think | 09:45 |
| Riddell | (or is a meta package to bring in the C header files) | 09:45 |
| Riddell | which code-of-conduct-signing-assistant doesn't need, it's just plain python | 09:46 |
| Riddell | so python3-all is right | 09:46 |
| Riddell | and you're rigt that (>= 3.2) would be nicer | 09:46 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: but is it a reject offence? | 09:46 |
| Odur | Riddell: I'm from Sweden | 09:47 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, not quite... :P | 09:47 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I am not understanding nvidia-modprobe (another package in NEW queue) | 09:47 |
| Riddell | Odur: sweden is home of many elite KDE hackers | 09:47 |
| smartboyhw | It's rules file, it's explicitly calling clean | 09:47 |
| smartboyhw | And using dh clean | 09:48 |
| smartboyhw | Shouldn't that be override_dh_auto_clean: | 09:48 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: anything significant from suspicious-source in code-of-conduct-signing-assistant? | 09:48 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, the translation files only, so no | 09:48 |
| smartboyhw | override_dh_auto_clean: rm -rf ${tmp_dir} (or whatever), dh_auto_clean !? | 09:49 |
| smartboyhw | I mean, it's no good rejecting, but it should have been better | 09:49 |
| smartboyhw | (That's for modprobe, to not confuse) | 09:49 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: back in code-of-conduct that License: CC0 is that DFSG free? | 09:50 |
| * smartboyhw checks | 09:50 | |
| Riddell | it looks like an old CC licence so I've not come across it before | 09:51 |
| Odur | Riddell: Ok, thanks. I'll poke you when I'm ready to learn. In the meantime I'll just hang around :) | 09:54 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: if I read through the legalese it's just a public domain licence so I think code-of-conduct is good to accept if you agree | 09:55 |
| * Riddell runs off to a funeral for a poor canoeist who died | 09:55 | |
| smartboyhw | -.- | 09:56 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I agree | 09:57 |
| smartboyhw | debfx, you have responded to the vote and not to me;P | 09:58 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, yofel: Do vote:P | 10:10 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, ^ | 10:10 |
| smartboyhw | apachelogger, ^ | 10:11 |
| yofel | what what? | 10:11 |
| yofel | oh doodle | 10:12 |
| smartboyhw | heh heh | 10:13 |
| marcuspbaird | hello | 11:47 |
| marcuspbaird | reporting a bug | 11:47 |
| marcuspbaird | :) | 11:47 |
| marcuspbaird | 13.10 beta 1 | 11:48 |
| marcuspbaird | 32 bit | 11:48 |
| marcuspbaird | install really quick did not connect to wireless | 11:48 |
| marcuspbaird | and crash on install first time when it tried to connect to wireless | 11:49 |
| marcuspbaird | bypassed interenet worked fine installed good and same issue on full install | 11:49 |
| marcuspbaird | saw the connection but wouldn't connect | 11:49 |
| marcuspbaird | :) | 11:49 |
| marcuspbaird | bug report over | 11:50 |
| smartboyhw | marcuspbaird, this might be a hardware issue-.- | 11:50 |
| marcuspbaird | prob a driver issue but never had that beofre | 11:51 |
| marcuspbaird | before | 11:51 |
| marcuspbaird | typos sorry | 11:51 |
| marcuspbaird | it did see the wireless | 11:51 |
| smartboyhw | -.- | 11:52 |
| marcuspbaird | have a usb adapter which connects to wireless rooter | 11:52 |
| marcuspbaird | same issue in opensuse with kde | 11:52 |
| marcuspbaird | every other distro it works fine | 11:52 |
| Riddell | afternoon | 12:26 |
| Riddell | marcuspbaird: that's a known issue | 12:26 |
| Riddell | and quite a nasty one | 12:26 |
| Riddell | agateau: did you get anywhere with ubiquity wifi or need me to take a look? | 12:26 |
| jussi | Riddell: did you get anywhere with the withsupport email ? | 12:33 |
| Riddell | jussi: nope, didn't work in kmail and didn't authenticate infirefox | 12:40 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: accepted code-of-conduct-signing-assistan | 12:40 |
| jussi | Riddell: yeah, mweird as. | 12:40 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, good, it's the oldest package hanging around there | 12:41 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, not getting anyone to upload to Debian NEW for you:( | 12:41 |
| marcuspbaird | thanks sorry watching rookie blue not paying attention | 12:44 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: i nvidia-modprobe I don't know why he did the clean: target directly rather than dh_override_clean: but it's just as legit to do | 12:44 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: however licensecheck tells me not all licences are listed in debian/copyright | 12:47 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: do you want kqoauth uploaded? | 12:48 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, in Debian, yes, ScottK says that he would ACK kqoauth's FFe if it is synced from Debian | 12:49 |
| Riddell | ok | 12:50 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 12:53 |
| jussi | Riddell: funny thing is, it sends mail fine for me, but I havent got it to receive yet | 12:54 |
| jjesse | mornign BluesKaj | 12:59 |
| BluesKaj | hi jjesse | 13:03 |
| marcuspbaird | is that my jjesse | 13:07 |
| marcuspbaird | australias | 13:07 |
| jjesse | no | 13:07 |
| marcuspbaird | ok | 13:07 |
| marcuspbaird | carry on | 13:07 |
| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | ||
| smartboyhw | Thank you shadeslayer :) | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | np | 14:34 |
| * shadeslayer is totally uncertain about next week | 14:34 | |
| smartboyhw | Hmm, most people choose for Monday 15:00 UTC | 14:34 |
| * smartboyhw needs 3 absolute "Yes" from the voters to accept a final solution | 14:34 | |
| ScottK | Fixed pykde4/sip4 pushed at the archive. Thanks for testing everyone. | 14:39 |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: I'm not even voting, pick a date this month and unless it's in the damn morning I should be there | 14:39 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, huh? -.- | 14:39 |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: I basically mean I'm free everyday until end of the month | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, whoa | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw | You don't have a job or something? | 14:40 |
| Quintasan | Not anymore | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, oh:( | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw | Better find a new one (or get Blue Systems to employ you?:P) | 14:40 |
| Quintasan | I'm still a uni student | 14:40 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, be a intern at Google;P | 14:41 |
| smartboyhw | Or, anywhere else | 14:41 |
| Quintasan | You don't usually take people for being interns at their third semester I think | 14:41 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, oh? | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | I did a internship in my 3rd semester, though it was at this shitty Indian IT company | 14:42 |
| smartboyhw | !language | shadeslayer | 14:42 |
| ubottu | shadeslayer: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | or rather, at the end of the 3rd semester | 14:42 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 14:42 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, OK | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: I can't use shitty? :( | 14:42 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, you are from the US right? | 14:42 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, no. | 14:42 |
| Quintasan | well, fuck. | 14:42 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | why not | 14:43 |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: Poland | 14:43 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, that is even worse | 14:43 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, oh | 14:43 |
| * smartboyhw wants to study college in the US | 14:43 | |
| agateau | Riddell: from what I understand from xnox, the Ubiquity issue is not frontend-specific and should get fixed at some point | 14:43 |
| smartboyhw | Those top ones especially | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | ESOEXPENSIVE | 14:43 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: Well, I worked for a month at and ISP this year | 14:43 |
| Quintasan | at an* | 14:43 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, are you going to vote in doodle? | 14:43 |
| BluesKaj | you guys having a bad language pissing contest ? :) | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: ah yes, that's always fun | 14:43 |
| Riddell | agateau: ooh interesting | 14:43 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: I worked on satellites | 14:43 |
| Quintasan | BluesKaj: We are trolling smartboyhw :P | 14:43 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, I'm not going in there paying money:P | 14:44 |
| ScottK | Eventually. | 14:44 |
| * smartboyhw wants to get a scholarship | 14:44 | |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: get an education in Europe, it's practically free | 14:44 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: I worked on...UT2004 | 14:44 |
| Quintasan | oops | 14:44 |
| Quintasan | was not supposed to tell anyone | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 14:44 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, huh? My Mum/Dad says: Don't go out to the Western Countries to study except if it's ranked Top 30 in the world | 14:44 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, secret code of conduct? | 14:44 |
| * shadeslayer worked on one of the INSAT satellites | 14:45 | |
| shadeslayer | provisioning bandwidth etc etc | 14:45 |
| * smartboyhw think assassins will now come at Quintasan | 14:45 | |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, nice | 14:45 |
| smartboyhw | Good science stuff | 14:45 |
| Quintasan | nha | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: I would disagree, atleast from a masters POV | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | go where there is awesome research in your area of interest | 14:45 |
| Quintasan | It was mostly like this: Noone wants anything -> We're doing nothing -> How about we do X? -> Nah, let's play UT2004 -> Okay. | 14:45 |
| Riddell | ooh Quintasan, interested in taking on plasma active? | 14:45 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, oh, you're doing it for a master degree for that!? | 14:46 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Ah, yes, this sounds like a good idea. | 14:46 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, let me fix networkmanagement first-.- | 14:46 |
| * smartboyhw forgotten about that | 14:46 | |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: what needs fixed? | 14:46 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: hm? nope | 14:47 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: I plan to do one at some point and so far, financially, it seems that doing one in the EU is better | 14:47 |
| shadeslayer | you pay peanuts compared to the US | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, plasma-widget-networkmanagement | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | plasma-mobile isn't able to find the headers | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, maybe I should give it to Quintasan (still haven't worked it out yet) | 14:49 |
| Quintasan | what the... | 14:49 |
| Quintasan | ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/active/4.0/src/ | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, yes, you don't know that?;) | 14:49 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: oh yes, it's in a missing binary package or something | 14:49 |
| Quintasan | This is going to be a pain | 14:49 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: what's painful? | 14:50 |
| Quintasan | >Besides a full KDE SC build (with kde-workspace built in a way "kwinactive" is enabled) it needs maliit-framework | 14:50 |
| smartboyhw | Which needs a patch also | 14:50 |
| Quintasan | I need to take a look at workspace once again then | 14:50 |
| smartboyhw | I have contacted upstream and they say "DON'T PATCH THAT PATCH" | 14:50 |
| smartboyhw | https://lwn.net/Articles/565007/ ~!!? | 14:51 |
| Riddell | lwn are out of favour with me, they didn't cover the commerical support story, make me wonder why I pay for their subscription | 14:55 |
| Riddell | although to be fair I don't think I ever have paid for their subscription | 14:55 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I never paid for it too, Ubuntu Members got free ones-.- | 14:55 |
| Riddell | oh maybe that explains it | 14:56 |
| Quintasan | holy | 15:01 |
| smartboyhw | ^ That is not a good symptom of Quintasan :P | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | What the hell | 15:03 |
| smartboyhw | Calm down.... | 15:04 |
| * smartboyhw thinks Quintasan needs a temper makeover | 15:04 | |
| Quintasan | I'm pretty much sure you'd have to pay me if you want me to calm dow | 15:07 |
| Quintasan | xD | 15:07 |
| smartboyhw | -.- | 15:07 |
| Quintasan | Anyone running saucy? | 15:07 |
| Riddell | yofel: is 4.11.1 good to announce on kubuntu.org? | 15:07 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: yeah | 15:07 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Does you gpg agent work? | 15:07 |
| Quintasan | I can't sign the package for some reason | 15:07 |
| yofel | afaik yes, saucy, raring and precise is Done with l10n, quantal is behind as always | 15:08 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: no, it's broken for me now, was broken then fixed itself now broken again :( | 15:08 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: unset GPG_AGENT_INFO is the workaround | 15:08 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, who requested Quantal? | 15:08 |
| smartboyhw | I thought we are dropping it-.- | 15:08 |
| Riddell | yofel: awesomeness! | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | Ah | 15:09 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: I tried to drop it but I got requests from people | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Thanks, thought something in my .gnupg got crapped out and I thought my key's a goner | 15:09 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, it makes sense though, 12.10 will be longer-lived than 13.04 | 15:09 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, why can't we just make the announcement without Quantal and update it later? | 15:09 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: I plan to | 15:10 |
| Riddell | right now | 15:10 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, sure | 15:10 |
| Quintasan | People don't usually read announcements twice | 15:10 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: someone, and now that we have 4.11.0 out for it support isn't much work | 15:10 |
| yofel | I just need to find the time to finish it | 15:10 |
| * smartboyhw wonders who that "someone" is | 15:10 | |
| yofel | Quintasan: do you get a pinentry-qt4 segfault in dmesg? | 15:11 |
| Quintasan | yup | 15:11 |
| yofel | ok, I filed a bug that nobody looked at so far | 15:11 |
| yofel | my workaround is pinentry-curses for the time being, but afaik uninstalling ibus-qt4 resolves the crash too | 15:12 |
| Riddell | how's this? kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.11.1 | 15:12 |
| Quintasan | yofel: where are pbuilder hooks now? | 15:13 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: I forgot the name, but there was someone here that did the QA work for .0 | 15:13 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, OK | 15:13 |
| yofel | Quintasan: uh, let me check | 15:13 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, weird, it's yofel who gets the credits at the press release, but I get all the LP karma-.- | 15:13 |
| yofel | Quintasan: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks | 15:14 |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: Because you did the upload | 15:14 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, I only did the branch itself | 15:14 |
| Quintasan | There is someone on LP who gets karma for pretty much anything happens there | 15:14 |
| Quintasan | Forgot who is it | 15:14 |
| yofel | it's 50/50 this time as the script crapped out halfway for him and I finished it ^^ | 15:14 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: point taken, fixed :) | 15:14 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, nah | 15:14 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 15:14 |
| smartboyhw | Well, yofel did all the hard work at least | 15:15 |
| yofel | well, I do get the PPA and l10n karma | 15:15 |
| yofel | so *shrug* | 15:15 |
| smartboyhw | Hopefully, 4.11.2 wouldn't be THAT difficult-.- | 15:15 |
| smartboyhw | (No failing scripts halfway) | 15:15 |
| yofel | well no, I fixed *that* issue at least | 15:15 |
| yofel | but kubuntu-archive-upload has the same issue actually and needs a fix | 15:16 |
| yofel | want to do some python coding? ^^ | 15:16 |
| Quintasan | >python | 15:16 |
| Quintasan | no | 15:16 |
| Quintasan | pls | 15:16 |
| Quintasan | no | 15:16 |
| Quintasan | stop | 15:16 |
| smartboyhw | No thanks, I would rather want to finish off that kdeconnect-kde 0.1 release I've got here | 15:16 |
| yofel | uh, it's actually a rather sane choice here | 15:16 |
| yofel | sure, do finish that first | 15:17 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: how come you missed the "kubuntu" from the filename of debian/patches/0001-fix-identical-events-ignored-bug.diff ? | 15:17 |
| Riddell | in kde-runtime | 15:17 |
| Riddell | is it in debian? | 15:17 |
| yofel | Riddell: that's the filename you get from git format-patch | 15:17 |
| * yofel doesn't rename upstram patches either | 15:17 | |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I thought upstream patches get 0001- | 15:17 |
| smartboyhw | -.- | 15:17 |
| * smartboyhw hides | 15:17 | |
| Riddell | hmm, right. I prefer to use the kubuntu_ prefix to show it's added by us not from debian | 15:17 |
| * Riddell spots smartboyhw hiding behind the curtains | 15:18 | |
| yofel | sure, as do I. But if I cherry-pick commits from upstream then the patch is gone in the next release so I don't bother | 15:18 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I'm hiding behind a bunch of science textbooks-.- | 15:18 |
| Quintasan | FOR SCIENCE! | 15:21 |
| Quintasan | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1008967 | 15:21 |
| Quintasan | lol | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1008967 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] plasma-widget-redshift" [Wishlist,In progress] | 15:21 |
| Quintasan | totally frogot about that | 15:22 |
| yofel | who cares about science. Read a book about CSS3, that's enough to fry your brain | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | forgot even* | 15:22 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, LOL | 15:22 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, no thanks, I rather want genetic engineering or quantum physics-.- | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | >quantum physics | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | NO YOU DON'T | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU DON'T WANT | 15:22 |
| * smartboyhw thinks someone should kick Quintasan out, now. | 15:23 | |
| yofel | well, that's at least interesting - though I can tell from experience that I don't understand it | 15:23 |
| yofel | kubotu: order tea for Quintasan | 15:23 |
| * kubotu gives Quintasan a nice hot cup of tea. | 15:23 | |
| Quintasan | Yes, it is interesting but you have to study a ton of higher maths to get it | 15:23 |
| Quintasan | Which in itself is not so bad | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | But takes a lot of time | 15:24 |
| * yofel is tired of forcing a mixture of table-based HTML4 and HTML5 divs to look sane with CSS and makes his way home | 15:24 | |
| Quintasan | yofel: Care do to a quick review of http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/plasma-widget-redshift_0.6-0ubuntu1.dsc ? | 15:25 |
| yofel | in an ~hour | 15:25 |
| * smartboyhw quick reviews it (even with no power) | 15:25 | |
| Quintasan | good | 15:25 |
| * Quintasan goes to make some tea and food | 15:25 | |
| * smartboyhw wonders is Quintasan too lazy to make a debian/watch file | 15:29 | |
| smartboyhw | It's OK otherwise | 15:29 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: any progress on "make ubiquity populate the package cache,and xapian and kde cache" ? | 15:36 |
| Riddell | yofel: what still needs doing for "Set up daily builds of the KDE stable branches for point release testing" ? I see lots of builds going on in kubuntu-ppa/ppa | 15:36 |
| smartboyhw | Tsk, now Friday seems to be a better idea | 15:41 |
| smartboyhw | JontheEchidna, care to vote too? | 15:41 |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: Give me a sane kde-apps.org routine for watch file and I'll include it | 15:44 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, fine, I give up:P | 15:45 |
| smartboyhw | It's OK | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: kinda, had a discussion with xnox regarding cache copying | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | and he said that it's wrong | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | and that the cache population should be done by chroot'ing into the system | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | but all we can do is run kbuildsycoca4 and I have no metrics to support that it actually makes login quicker | 15:46 |
| xnox | or generate full cache at live-rootfs build time. | 15:47 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Look at kbackup for one. | 15:47 |
| xnox | such that your .iso already has it pre-boot. | 15:47 |
| ScottK | Is there an FFe for p-w-redshift? | 15:48 |
| Quintasan | wait | 15:48 |
| Quintasan | it's FFe already? | 15:48 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Discard it then | 15:49 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, welcome to Feature Freeze:P | 15:49 |
| smartboyhw | (And you seemed to be late of knowing about it, seriously) | 15:49 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Gone. | 15:49 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Thanks, I'll upload it next cycle | 15:50 |
| ScottK | BTW, if you can get it in Debian, I'm happy to accept it as a sync. | 15:50 |
| Quintasan | Not important enough to make FFe | 15:50 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, I just wanted somebody to upload kqoauth for me:( | 15:50 |
| smartboyhw | (In Debian_) | 15:50 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: mind and update the trello item with what you find | 15:54 |
| yofel | Riddell: drat, thanks for reminding me, there's some 2 dozen packages missing IIRC | 16:09 |
| yofel | I'll get that done this week | 16:09 |
| Riddell | yofel: oh cool, nice to see it happening :) | 16:24 |
| Odur | How many developers are working on Kubuntu on a regular basis? | 16:57 |
| Riddell | Odur: hard to say | 16:58 |
| Riddell | depends on how you count it | 16:58 |
| Odur | core developers then? | 16:58 |
| Riddell | so far today I see me, yofel, ScottK, Quintasan, smartboyhw and shadeslayer | 16:58 |
| Odur | Seems to be much work for so few people? | 16:59 |
| Riddell | yes indeed, that's why we need your help :) | 16:59 |
| Odur | :) | 16:59 |
| Quintasan | Aw damn | 17:32 |
| lordievader | Good evening. | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | dafuq? Firefox hardcodes search engine URL's ? | 18:37 |
| shadeslayer | so that I can't remove the canonical ref from DDG and put KDE there instead | 18:37 |
| ScottK | Looks like not. | 18:43 |
| ScottK | BTW, you can add ixquick from mozilla.org. It's got similar privacy policies to DDG. | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 18:58 |
| soee | why so sad ? | 18:59 |
| BluesKaj | amichair, having autojoin problems ? | 19:10 |
| amichair | BluesKaj: oh sorry, flaky wifi must be causing some conflicts | 19:11 |
| BluesKaj | amichair, change wifi channels , sometimes that helps | 19:12 |
| amichair | BluesKaj: it ain't mine... | 19:13 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 19:13 |
| BluesKaj | got an ethernet cable ? | 19:15 |
| Riddell | cyphermox: not wanting 0.9.8.2 in saucy? | 21:25 |
| Riddell | network manager that is | 21:25 |
| cyphermox | Riddell: feel free, I'm a little busy | 21:32 |
| cyphermox | I'm not sure it would necessarily satisfy the no new features aspect | 21:32 |
| cyphermox | otherwise I can consider doing this tomorrow maybe? | 21:32 |
| cyphermox | hmm... maybeit won't be so bad, I'll review the commit log | 21:34 |
| Riddell | cyphermox: thanks, I'm just wanting to make sure a crash in our applet isn't caused by an older nm | 21:35 |
| cyphermox | cool | 21:35 |
| cyphermox | can you point me to which crash? I'll try to figure it out | 21:35 |
| Riddell | cyphermox: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324708 | 21:39 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 324708 in applet "Crash when launching second user desktop" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 21:39 |
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