[00:35] <roberth1990> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades/Kubuntu step 2 in the first part what is that? I cant seem get any help from google
[01:16] <chris5000> anyone here?
[01:54] <roberth1990> anyone else had the problem with booting kubuntu 13.10 beta1 installation medium that you just end up in busybox?
[03:08] <harolddong> IS anybody else having a problem connecting to facebook in the messengers? for the last few days I haven't been able to connect with either kopete or kde contacts. I'm wondering if it is just a facebook chat problem and if there is a setting I can change to make it work again.
[05:04] <dariusc7> I know what most would say about 13.10 not a stable release but i was testing the kubuntu 13.10 beta and notice i get a segfault when using software-properties-kde.  Any fix for it? I tried googling but not to much information about it accept one thread which wasnt much use
[05:07] <Guest27111> dariusc7: did you run it in gdb to get a backtrace?
[06:40] <ik_> slania
[09:32] <mparillo> roberth1990: I think the point of step 2) Select Install Updates. is to ensure that before you upgrade to 13.10, your 13.04 is up-to-date.
[10:05] <mattia> !list
[10:42] <GeorgeMilnes> Afternoon
[11:40] <marcuspbaird> hey guys whats the kubuntu dev room 
[11:40] <marcuspbaird> want to report a bug 
[11:41] <monkeyjuice> #kubuntu-devel
[11:47] <marcuspbaird> thanks 
[12:52] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:01] <ik_> kubuntu is the best
[14:21] <EvilRoey> hi
[14:22] <EvilRoey> how do I know which number version of Kubuntu I am running?
[14:22] <EvilRoey> thanks
[14:25] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, lsb_release -a
[14:25] <BluesKaj> or -r
[14:25] <EvilRoey> `ah, thank you!
[14:26] <EvilRoey> alright
[14:26] <EvilRoey> so I am on Precise.
[14:26] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  How do I upgrade to Quantal from ehre?  do_release_upgrade doesn't detect a newer available version of Kubuntu..
[14:27] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, which version are you on ?
[14:27] <GeorgeMilnes> apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[14:27] <GeorgeMilnes> update-manager -d 
[14:27] <GeorgeMilnes> idk
[14:27] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  12.04
[14:27] <BluesKaj> no, GeorgeMilnes that just upgrades the packages
[14:27] <EvilRoey> 12.04.3 LTS.
[14:27] <GeorgeMilnes> aye 
[14:28] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, make sure the upgrade manager doesn't have upgrade LTS only enabled
[14:28] <EvilRoey> ohhh ok
[14:28] <GeorgeMilnes> I tend to go for fresh installs on new major releases, but probably a pain for some. 
[14:29] <EvilRoey> robotfuel:  *NICE* nick
[14:30] <LyzardKing> is there a synaptiks alternative on kubuntu?
[14:31] <LyzardKing> it's not mantained any more
[14:31] <GeorgeMilnes> muon package manager is nice 
[14:32] <LyzardKing> not synaptic, synaptiks is the touchpad settings manager
[14:32] <GeorgeMilnes> LOL
[14:32] <GeorgeMilnes> my bad
[14:32] <GeorgeMilnes> tired eyes..
[14:32] <BluesKaj> LyzardKing, synaptiks or synaptic ?
[14:32] <LyzardKing> synaptiks
[14:33] <BluesKaj> search muon LyzardKing
[14:34] <GeorgeMilnes> he said not synaptic BluesKaj 
[14:35] <BluesKaj> GeorgeMilnes, no need to correct me , IO saw that afterwards
[14:35] <GeorgeMilnes> :)
[14:35] <LyzardKing> yes I've read that it's now unmaintained, and on kde 4.11 it's not working
[14:36] <BluesKaj> !touchpad
[14:38] <BluesKaj> that factoid is old , unfortunately , better off to type it into muon search and see what appears
[14:38] <LyzardKing> yeah, not much actually...
[14:40] <BluesKaj> well, I can't help much more since this is a desktop 
[14:56] <ovidiu-florin> are there localized kubuntu IRC channels?
[14:57] <tsimpson> there are
[14:59] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  you were right; the moment I switched my selection from notify me "for new long-term releases" to "for any update", it detected that 12.10 is available.
[14:59] <EvilRoey> and I am upgrading to it now.
[15:00] <tsimpson> ovidiu-florin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList#line-88
[15:00] <ovidiu-florin> so there isn't one for romania
[15:01] <ovidiu-florin> can someone please clarify this to me, is Kubuntu a different distribution than Ubuntu or not? if it is, then why is so much of kubuntu's stuff hosted at Ubuntu's sites?
[15:02] <tsimpson> depends on your definition of "distribution", we use the term flavour (or flavor)
[15:02] <tsimpson> !flavour
[15:02] <tsimpson> !flavor
[15:03] <tsimpson> all the flavours use the same base, and differ in the default packages they install
[15:10] <GeorgeMilnes> tsimpson: In theory they aren't the same base as ubuntu uses GTK and KDE uses QT 
[15:10] <GeorgeMilnes> *i think*
[15:11] <GeorgeMilnes> ovidiu-florin: It is a flavour, based on the KDE4 desktop
[15:11] <GeorgeMilnes> I find it a lot faster than ubuntu. 
[15:21] <tsimpson> GeorgeMilnes: Ubuntu uses Qt too these days
[15:21] <tsimpson> (Unity)
[15:24] <GeorgeMilnes> Ah does ti ! 
[15:24] <GeorgeMilnes> it* 
[15:24] <GeorgeMilnes> I wasn't too bothered when they left Gnome2 for Unity 
[15:25] <GeorgeMilnes> The Gnome3Fallback fork was awful also
[15:39] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  is the way to upgrade from, say, 11.whatever to 13.04 to upgrade one revision at a time?
[15:39] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  i.e. there is no way to upgrade to the latest version?
[15:39] <EvilRoey> *to upgrade directly to the latest release, bypassing the intermediate ones.
[15:44] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, do a clean install , backup your home directory , install OS to / and creat a /home partition if you haven't already , then jumping over releases is easier in the future 
[15:50] <EvilRoey> ok
[15:50] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: so essentially it's not worth it to try and upgrade from one release to another
[15:50] <EvilRoey> if it the new relesae is much newer than the current install on your box
[15:56] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, it's bad practice , it will mess up your install , one has tupgrade in sequence if release upgrading is the method you want to use 
[15:56] <BluesKaj> to upgrade in sequence
[15:57] <EvilRoey> ok, then I am glad that I did this then.
[15:57] <EvilRoey> *that I took your approach
[15:58] <EvilRoey> I remember twenty years ago being just as thrilled looking at the computer parts advertisements
[15:58] <EvilRoey> in trying to figure out how to buy my next desktop
[15:58] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj:  I remember going through software/debian/kubuntu upgrade sagas
[15:58] <EvilRoey> it's like this stuff hasn't changed :)
[16:47] <roberth1990> hello, I have downloaded a .deb package and I wish to install through a shell. what tool and command do I use to do that?
[16:49] <wotan> dpkg -i package.deb
[16:50] <roberth1990> wotan: thanks
[17:14] <ram-sharma> hi
[17:54] <lordievader> Good evening.
[18:24] <ed854tyjh> Hi anyone know how to map mouse keys (4, 5 and 6) to certain fucntions (specificaly in firefox to zoom in, out, and default) ?
[18:25] <ed854tyjh> that would be ctrl + , ctrl - and  ctrl 0
[18:30] <BluesKaj> ed854tyjh, to zoom in and out on any browser use the ctrl + or - keys
[18:31] <BluesKaj> they should already be mapped 
[18:33] <ed854tyjh> they are but I want to set my mouse keys to do that
[18:43] <BluesKaj> ed854tyjh, oh sorry , I misread
[18:44] <BluesKaj> <---doesn't use a fancy mouse 
[18:45] <ed854tyjh> I am now trying to do something with iamwheel after unsuccessful attempts with xbind-keys
[18:48] <lordievader> ed854tyjh: You can make a workaround with xdotools, but that ain't a pretty work around ;)
[18:50] <mr-rich> Latest updates to 12.04 LTS. My transparent theme is no longer transparent ... any clues?
[19:02] <yasser> jh
[19:03] <geri> hi how can i backup my linux kernel?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> geri, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1601219
[19:48] <inet> ?
[20:25] <snaketong> hey there, I just installed kubuntu and I can't seem to find the setting to change the resolution of my screen, any idea ?
[20:30] <snaketong> nevermind guys I got it
[21:31] <Meatyboy> Howdy. This might be a dumb question, but how do I move my taskbar (recent conversion from Windows) from the top to align to the left side of the screen?
[21:47] <Authority> Meatyboy: with widgets unlocked, click on the little "bean" at the end of the panel you want to move, then use "screen edge" button to drag it to the edge you want it to attach to
[21:51] <Meatyboy> Ahhh, there we go, thanks much. Still on a learning curve. I've played with much older versions of Ubuntu and Debian, just thought I'd give Kubuntu a try. Enjoying it a lot so far, just on a severe learning curve.
[22:57] <veryhappy> hi guys, i'm sorry to bother you, but perhaps anyone can help with this crap of wallet. it always fucks in between while i'm drumming in hydrogen.
[22:57] <veryhappy> i don't want to be asked for a password all the time while i'm drumming, that's annoying.
[23:12] <veryhappy> well, irc isn't as full anymore as it used to be.
[23:36] <Meatyboy> One more question. Is there an iTunes clone/alternative that I can use to load my iPhone with music(audio books)?
[23:37] <Meatyboy> I tried installing SongBird recommended from an old thread, but I think songbird is about dead for Ubuntu type clones, at least I couldn't get it to install... So, any suggestions?
[23:40] <dave__> ping 
[23:40] <dave__> ..
[23:42] <shadeslayer> Meatyboy: I think amarok might work
[23:42] <shadeslayer> it works with iPods 
[23:42] <shadeslayer> and if you want the iTunes 'look' then Tomahawk
[23:43] <Meatyboy> I'll give it a try. Hadn't really attached my phone to my laptop yet. figured with windows you needed iTunes to add or detract 
[23:43] <shadeslayer> well, I know for a fact that Amarok works with iPods
[23:43] <shadeslayer> no idea about phones 
[23:45] <Meatyboy> Personally, I hate iTunes, it's overly conveluted and about useless. 
[23:46] <shadeslayer> I wish everything just used mass storage modes and you can just copy over files
[23:47] <shadeslayer> anyway, gtg, there's #amarok if you need more help with amarok
[23:47] <Meatyboy> I'll give it a try and try and figure it out on my own. I appreciate the help.