[06:49] <stub> wgrant: ta
[06:53]  * stub wonders how the .tac worked at all without os.path imported
[06:56] <wgrant> stub: os.path is magical
[06:57] <wgrant> stub: It's an alias for ${PLATFORM}path, which os/__init__.py determines and imports dynamically
[06:57] <stub> wgrant: I've got the explicit wait-until-dead check, as I had a test confirming behavior when Swift is dead failing without it. I'm happy to move it to the base class if you want.
[06:57] <wgrant> Well, except that I guess os is an extension, but same idea
[06:58] <wgrant> stub: Hm, it seems odd that tearDown doesn't want until it's dead.
[06:58] <wgrant> s/want/wait/
[06:58] <stub> I prefer the 'magical' explanation
[06:58] <stub> Shutting down is normally a layer tear down thing - you don't usually care that it takes a little while to actually die.
[06:59] <wgrant> Except that some of our layers use the same port each time
[06:59] <wgrant> (or at least used to)
[06:59] <wgrant> So things clearly shut down in relatively short order.
[06:59] <stub> I guess the shutdown time < startup time :)
[06:59] <wgrant> Yeah
[09:03] <wgrant> stub: Oh, the diff in the MP must have been out of date
[09:04] <wgrant> setup.py showed like 12 new deps, then your new commit removed one and now it only shows three new ones.
[09:04] <stub> yeah, it got stuck at some point.
[09:05] <stub> Unclogged now (sourcecode suppository?)
[09:05] <wgrant> That makes a lot more sense, because I remember bringing that up a few weeks ago and you fixed it
[09:07] <stub> So I should land that now? And do we still shuffle things through ec2test nowadays?
[09:07]  * stub hasn't inflicted reimbursement forms on his new management yet.
[09:50] <wgrant> stub: We don't push stuff through ec2 very often at all nowadays, unless it has potential for widespread failure that might take a while to fix.
[09:50] <wgrant> stub: mock-swift has no widespread impact, but I'd send the second one through ec2.
[09:51] <wgrant> For small failures it's much quicker to get them from buildbot and then [testfix].