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| mdeslaur | \o | 16:45 |
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| jdstrand | hi! | 16:45 |
| tyhicks | hello | 16:46 |
| jdstrand | #startmeeting | 16:46 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Sep 9 16:46:46 2013 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:46 |
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| jdstrand | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:47 |
| jdstrand | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:47 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:47 |
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| jdstrand | I'll go first | 16:47 |
| jdstrand | I'm in the happy place this week | 16:47 |
| jdstrand | I need to go through bps, postpone some stuff, plan for september and tentative for 14.04, then get that info out to people | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | I also have some work items-- mostly around testing various apis and getting the policy groups in order | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | and pending updates | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you're next | 16:48 |
| mdeslaur | I'm on triage this week | 16:49 |
| mdeslaur | and friday, I have patch piloting duties | 16:49 |
| mdeslaur | this week I plan on working down the CVE list, it's been growing | 16:49 |
| mdeslaur | that's it from me | 16:49 |
| mdeslaur | sbeattie: you're up | 16:49 |
| sbeattie | I'm on apparmor again this week | 16:49 |
| sbeattie | I'm again helping out jj with testing stuff, focusing on ipc | 16:50 |
| sbeattie | which is pretty much it for me | 16:50 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: you're up | 16:50 |
| tyhicks | I'm fixing a couple remaining bugs in the C++ apparmor parser patch set | 16:50 |
| tyhicks | then I'll send those out to the list | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | I need to put together a pull request for a couple minor eCryptfs kernel fixes while the merge window is still open | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | then I expect to be doing some work related to trusted helpers | 16:51 |
| tyhicks | that's it for me | 16:52 |
| tyhicks | sarnold: you're up | 16:52 |
| sarnold | I'm on community this week; I'm working on MIR audits this week, ust, mir, unity-system-compositor, msgpack-python, gunicorn, and open-vm-tools. I suspect I'll finish four of them this week... | 16:53 |
| sarnold | jdstrand: back to you | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 16:54 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| jdstrand | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gnome-shell.html | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libextlib-ruby.html | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/xnbd.html | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/salt.html | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libspoon-perl.html | 16:54 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 16:55 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions | ||
| jdstrand | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 16:55 |
| jdstrand | #endmeeting | 17:04 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Sep 9 17:04:35 2013 UTC. | 17:04 |
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| jdstrand | mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks,sarnold : thanks! | 17:04 |
| sarnold | thanks jdstrand :) | 17:04 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: thanks! | 17:04 |
| tyhicks | thanks | 17:04 |
| tumbleweed | !dmb-ping | 19:03 |
| ubottu | bdrung, ScottK, Laney, micahg, barry, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping | 19:03 |
| * stgraber waves | 19:03 | |
| * barry waves | 19:03 | |
| ScottK | \o | 19:03 |
| tumbleweed | #startmeeting Developer Membership Board | 19:03 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Sep 9 19:03:48 2013 UTC. The chair is tumbleweed. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 19:03 |
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| tumbleweed | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda | 19:03 |
| tumbleweed | #topic review previous action items | 19:04 |
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| tumbleweed | I see nothing in the agenda | 19:04 |
| micahg-work | \o/ | 19:04 |
| tumbleweed | anyone recall anything? | 19:04 |
| tumbleweed | I guess we move on | 19:04 |
| happyaron | my application? | 19:04 |
| tumbleweed | #topic Core-Dev applications | 19:04 |
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| tumbleweed | #subtopic happyaron's core-dev application | 19:05 |
| tumbleweed | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AronXu/DeveloperApplication | 19:05 |
| tumbleweed | happyaron: care to introduce it? | 19:05 |
| happyaron | well, last month I joined Canonical's Desktop Team, so that my work focus has moved from only input method related packages to more about the desktop... So I think the best idea is to apply for core-dev role. | 19:06 |
| micahg-work | happyaron, what was your thinking behind that? | 19:06 |
| happyaron | I have PPU for input-method packages earlier this year. | 19:06 |
| happyaron | micahg-work: it's actually more related to my current work, which is a quite long term project (ubuntukylin) which needs updating their packages from time to time. | 19:07 |
| micahg-work | happyaron, were you aware there was a desktop packageset that can be applied for separately? | 19:08 |
| happyaron | I think from technical and procedure perspective I'm qualified for core-dev, and now I have to pinging around for uploading them. | 19:08 |
| ScottK | Ubuntu Kylin has it's own package set as well. | 19:08 |
| micahg-work | (and we can make an upload team for that as soon as someone is ready to apply for that) | 19:09 |
| happyaron | micahg-work: yes I know, I have looked at it and think it's still quite limited, at least most of my current focus isn't Ubuntu's desktop package set, but really not limited to ubuntukylin's one | 19:09 |
| ScottK | What recent uploads do you have that reflect your focus? | 19:10 |
| happyaron | youker-assistant, ubuntukylin-wallpapers, and there is some changes to fcitx pending upload. | 19:10 |
| micahg-work | the first two should be in the Kylin packageset | 19:11 |
| micahg-work | fcitx you already have upload rights for through the input methods packageset | 19:12 |
| happyaron | there are also changes to fonts planned for next cycle. It isn't so obvious because the project is still in an early stage. | 19:12 |
| happyaron | yes. | 19:12 |
| happyaron | I know that you are very cautious on granting core-dev upload rights, but I do think ubuntukylin for me is a long term project to enhance Chinese support in Ubuntu in certain sense, and packageset will not be able to fullfill the requirement. | 19:14 |
| barry | happyaron: why not? what's missing? | 19:15 |
| happyaron | barry: it's not simply a project make a few new packages, but involves dealing with a more wide range of stuff. For example, we don't want to keep fonts in ubuntukylin's packageset, right? | 19:16 |
| micahg-work | if they're Kylin specific, why not? | 19:16 |
| micahg-work | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/saucy/ubuntukylin | 19:17 |
| micahg-work | seems incomplete | 19:17 |
| happyaron | but why fonts becomes kylin specific? there are only a small number of available fonts for use and they are meant for all Chinese users. | 19:17 |
| ScottK | Packagesets are inclusive, not exclusive. | 19:17 |
| micahg-work | ooh, there is a team | 19:17 |
| ScottK | If it's in the packageset, people can get upload rights they wouldn't have, but it doesn't prevent others from uploading too. | 19:18 |
| ScottK | So there's no downside. | 19:18 |
| stgraber | micahg-work: I just added youker-assistant and ubuntukylin-wallpapers to the kylin packageset now | 19:18 |
| micahg-work | stgraber, thanks | 19:18 |
| stgraber | micahg-work: that packageset isn't seed based like the others as they don't have a seed, it needs me to manually update it whenever something new gets in the image (and nobody nagged me about it apparently ;)) | 19:18 |
| * micahg-work wonders why Kylin doesn't have a seed | 19:21 | |
| ScottK | happyaron: It seems like you're immediate work is mostly on UbuntuKylin as are your recent contributions. | 19:21 |
| ScottK | micahg-work: I think it's on someone's TODO list. | 19:22 |
| happyaron | micahg-work: it was a baby project, and yes it's on TODO | 19:22 |
| micahg-work | ok | 19:22 |
| happyaron | ScottK: I joined last month, and it's my first task to work on | 19:22 |
| ScottK | Right. Normally we grant rights based on demonstrated past performance, not anticipated future needs. | 19:23 |
| ScottK | happyaron: What can you tell me about where we are in the release schedule now and what that means for what you can upload? | 19:25 |
| happyaron | ScottK: just past Beta1, in FF | 19:26 |
| happyaron | means only bug fixes can be uploaded, but new features must get approved before introducing | 19:27 |
| happyaron | i.e. new packages, new features, etc. | 19:27 |
| ScottK | If you change a package to generate a new binary that has to go through New, does that need an FFe? | 19:27 |
| happyaron | ScottK: I think yes. | 19:28 |
| happyaron | stuff uploaded before FF can go without FFe, even it is trapped in NEW for days that missed the freeze date. | 19:29 |
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| ScottK | happyaron: That's correct. | 19:30 |
| tumbleweed | ok, it looks live we have no more questions, let's take this to a vote | 19:33 |
| tumbleweed | I think we'll take a vote on the core-dev application, and if it fails, vote on granting you membership of ubuntukylin-dev | 19:34 |
| tumbleweed | happyaron: does that work for you? | 19:35 |
| happyaron | yes | 19:35 |
| tumbleweed | #voters bdrung ScottK Laney micahg barry tumbleweed stgraber | 19:35 |
| meetingology | Current voters: Laney ScottK barry bdrung micahg stgraber tumbleweed | 19:35 |
| tumbleweed | #vote grant happyaron core-dev rights | 19:36 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: grant happyaron core-dev rights | 19:36 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 19:36 |
| stgraber | +0 | 19:36 |
| meetingology | +0 received from stgraber | 19:36 |
| ScottK | -1 | 19:36 |
| meetingology | -1 received from ScottK | 19:36 |
| tumbleweed | #voters bdrung ScottK Laney micahg barry tumbleweed stgraber micahg-work | 19:36 |
| meetingology | Current voters: Laney ScottK barry bdrung micahg micahg-work stgraber tumbleweed | 19:36 |
| micahg-work | -1 lack of archive wide experience | 19:36 |
| meetingology | -1 lack of archive wide experience received from micahg-work | 19:36 |
| ScottK | Not enough recent history of broad contribution. Be glad to see you back after that changes. | 19:36 |
| barry | -1 ubuntukylin-dev membership is more appropriate at this time | 19:37 |
| meetingology | -1 ubuntukylin-dev membership is more appropriate at this time received from barry | 19:37 |
| happyaron | ok | 19:37 |
| micahg-work | I concur with ScottK as well | 19:37 |
| tumbleweed | +0 [ a DD, yes, but not enough broad experience in Ubuntu, or core-dev endorsement ] | 19:37 |
| meetingology | +0 [ a DD, yes, but not enough broad experience in Ubuntu, or core-dev endorsement ] received from tumbleweed | 19:37 |
| barry | -1 | 19:38 |
| meetingology | -1 received from barry | 19:38 |
| tumbleweed | #endvote | 19:38 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: grant happyaron core-dev rights | 19:38 |
| meetingology | Votes for:0 Votes against:3 Abstentions:2 | 19:38 |
| meetingology | Motion denied | 19:38 |
| tumbleweed | ok, that wasn't carried, let's go for ubuntukylin-dev | 19:38 |
| tumbleweed | #vote should happyaron be granted membership of ubuntukylin-dev? | 19:39 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: should happyaron be granted membership of ubuntukylin-dev? | 19:39 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) | 19:39 |
| tumbleweed | +1 | 19:39 |
| meetingology | +1 received from tumbleweed | 19:39 |
| stgraber | +1 | 19:39 |
| meetingology | +1 received from stgraber | 19:39 |
| barry | +1 | 19:39 |
| meetingology | +1 received from barry | 19:39 |
| micahg-work | +1 | 19:39 |
| meetingology | +1 received from micahg-work | 19:39 |
| ScottK | +1+1 | 19:39 |
| meetingology | +1+1 received from ScottK | 19:39 |
| tumbleweed | heh | 19:39 |
| tumbleweed | #endvote | 19:39 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: should happyaron be granted membership of ubuntukylin-dev? | 19:39 |
| meetingology | Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 19:39 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 19:39 |
| tumbleweed | happyaron: congratulations, I hope that gives you what you need | 19:39 |
| happyaron | thank you | 19:39 |
| tumbleweed | and with luck, we'll see you back for core-dev in the future | 19:40 |
| happyaron | tumbleweed: will come back when I got more archive wide activity, :) | 19:40 |
| barry | happyaron: we look forward to it! | 19:40 |
| happyaron | :-) | 19:40 |
| ScottK | There's also ubuntu-desktop too. | 19:40 |
| micahg-work | and MOTU | 19:40 |
| tumbleweed | #topic any other business? | 19:41 |
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| tumbleweed | I guess not | 19:41 |
| tumbleweed | #endmeeting | 19:41 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Sep 9 19:42:03 2013 UTC. | 19:42 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-09-09-19.03.moin.txt | 19:42 |
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| * tumbleweed loves short meetings | 19:42 | |
| tumbleweed | thanks everyone | 19:42 |
| barry | thanks tumbleweed | 19:42 |
| stgraber | thanks! | 19:42 |
| tumbleweed | happyaron: LP membership granted | 19:42 |
| happyaron | thanks! | 19:42 |
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