=== freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === freeflying is now known as freeflying_away === freeflying_away is now known as freeflying === mzanetti is now known as mzanetti|otp === mzanetti|otp is now known as mzanetti === mzanetti is now known as mzanetti|food === mzanetti|food is now known as mzanetti [16:45] \o [16:45] hi! [16:46] hello [16:46] #startmeeting [16:46] Meeting started Mon Sep 9 16:46:46 2013 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:46] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:47] The meeting agenda can be found at: [16:47] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [16:47] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [16:47] I'll go first [16:47] I'm in the happy place this week [16:48] I need to go through bps, postpone some stuff, plan for september and tentative for 14.04, then get that info out to people [16:48] I also have some work items-- mostly around testing various apis and getting the policy groups in order [16:48] and pending updates [16:48] mdeslaur: you're next [16:49] I'm on triage this week [16:49] and friday, I have patch piloting duties [16:49] this week I plan on working down the CVE list, it's been growing [16:49] that's it from me [16:49] sbeattie: you're up [16:49] I'm on apparmor again this week [16:50] I'm again helping out jj with testing stuff, focusing on ipc [16:50] which is pretty much it for me [16:50] tyhicks: you're up [16:50] I'm fixing a couple remaining bugs in the C++ apparmor parser patch set [16:51] then I'll send those out to the list [16:51] I need to put together a pull request for a couple minor eCryptfs kernel fixes while the merge window is still open [16:51] then I expect to be doing some work related to trusted helpers [16:52] that's it for me [16:52] sarnold: you're up [16:53] I'm on community this week; I'm working on MIR audits this week, ust, mir, unity-system-compositor, msgpack-python, gunicorn, and open-vm-tools. I suspect I'll finish four of them this week... [16:54] jdstrand: back to you [16:54] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [16:54] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. [16:54] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. [16:54] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gnome-shell.html [16:54] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libextlib-ruby.html [16:54] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/xnbd.html [16:54] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/salt.html [16:54] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libspoon-perl.html [16:55] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [16:55] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? [17:04] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [17:04] Meeting ended Mon Sep 9 17:04:35 2013 UTC. [17:04] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-09-09-16.46.moin.txt [17:04] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-09-09-16.46.html [17:04] mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks,sarnold : thanks! [17:04] thanks jdstrand :) [17:04] jdstrand: thanks! [17:04] thanks [19:03] !dmb-ping [19:03] bdrung, ScottK, Laney, micahg, barry, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping [19:03] * stgraber waves [19:03] * barry waves [19:03] \o [19:03] #startmeeting Developer Membership Board [19:03] Meeting started Mon Sep 9 19:03:48 2013 UTC. The chair is tumbleweed. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [19:03] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Developer Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: [19:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda [19:04] #topic review previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Developer Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: review previous action items [19:04] I see nothing in the agenda [19:04] \o/ [19:04] anyone recall anything? [19:04] I guess we move on [19:04] my application? [19:04] #topic Core-Dev applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Developer Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: Core-Dev applications [19:05] #subtopic happyaron's core-dev application [19:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AronXu/DeveloperApplication [19:05] happyaron: care to introduce it? [19:06] well, last month I joined Canonical's Desktop Team, so that my work focus has moved from only input method related packages to more about the desktop... So I think the best idea is to apply for core-dev role. [19:06] happyaron, what was your thinking behind that? [19:06] I have PPU for input-method packages earlier this year. [19:07] micahg-work: it's actually more related to my current work, which is a quite long term project (ubuntukylin) which needs updating their packages from time to time. [19:08] happyaron, were you aware there was a desktop packageset that can be applied for separately? [19:08] I think from technical and procedure perspective I'm qualified for core-dev, and now I have to pinging around for uploading them. [19:08] Ubuntu Kylin has it's own package set as well. [19:09] (and we can make an upload team for that as soon as someone is ready to apply for that) [19:09] micahg-work: yes I know, I have looked at it and think it's still quite limited, at least most of my current focus isn't Ubuntu's desktop package set, but really not limited to ubuntukylin's one [19:10] What recent uploads do you have that reflect your focus? [19:10] youker-assistant, ubuntukylin-wallpapers, and there is some changes to fcitx pending upload. [19:11] the first two should be in the Kylin packageset [19:12] fcitx you already have upload rights for through the input methods packageset [19:12] there are also changes to fonts planned for next cycle. It isn't so obvious because the project is still in an early stage. [19:12] yes. [19:14] I know that you are very cautious on granting core-dev upload rights, but I do think ubuntukylin for me is a long term project to enhance Chinese support in Ubuntu in certain sense, and packageset will not be able to fullfill the requirement. [19:15] happyaron: why not? what's missing? [19:16] barry: it's not simply a project make a few new packages, but involves dealing with a more wide range of stuff. For example, we don't want to keep fonts in ubuntukylin's packageset, right? [19:16] if they're Kylin specific, why not? [19:17] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/saucy/ubuntukylin [19:17] seems incomplete [19:17] but why fonts becomes kylin specific? there are only a small number of available fonts for use and they are meant for all Chinese users. [19:17] Packagesets are inclusive, not exclusive. [19:17] ooh, there is a team [19:18] If it's in the packageset, people can get upload rights they wouldn't have, but it doesn't prevent others from uploading too. [19:18] So there's no downside. [19:18] micahg-work: I just added youker-assistant and ubuntukylin-wallpapers to the kylin packageset now [19:18] stgraber, thanks [19:18] micahg-work: that packageset isn't seed based like the others as they don't have a seed, it needs me to manually update it whenever something new gets in the image (and nobody nagged me about it apparently ;)) [19:21] * micahg-work wonders why Kylin doesn't have a seed [19:21] happyaron: It seems like you're immediate work is mostly on UbuntuKylin as are your recent contributions. [19:22] micahg-work: I think it's on someone's TODO list. [19:22] micahg-work: it was a baby project, and yes it's on TODO [19:22] ok [19:22] ScottK: I joined last month, and it's my first task to work on [19:23] Right. Normally we grant rights based on demonstrated past performance, not anticipated future needs. [19:25] happyaron: What can you tell me about where we are in the release schedule now and what that means for what you can upload? [19:26] ScottK: just past Beta1, in FF [19:27] means only bug fixes can be uploaded, but new features must get approved before introducing [19:27] i.e. new packages, new features, etc. [19:27] If you change a package to generate a new binary that has to go through New, does that need an FFe? [19:28] ScottK: I think yes. [19:29] stuff uploaded before FF can go without FFe, even it is trapped in NEW for days that missed the freeze date. === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [19:30] happyaron: That's correct. [19:33] ok, it looks live we have no more questions, let's take this to a vote [19:34] I think we'll take a vote on the core-dev application, and if it fails, vote on granting you membership of ubuntukylin-dev [19:35] happyaron: does that work for you? [19:35] yes [19:35] #voters bdrung ScottK Laney micahg barry tumbleweed stgraber [19:35] Current voters: Laney ScottK barry bdrung micahg stgraber tumbleweed [19:36] #vote grant happyaron core-dev rights [19:36] Please vote on: grant happyaron core-dev rights [19:36] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [19:36] +0 [19:36] +0 received from stgraber [19:36] -1 [19:36] -1 received from ScottK [19:36] #voters bdrung ScottK Laney micahg barry tumbleweed stgraber micahg-work [19:36] Current voters: Laney ScottK barry bdrung micahg micahg-work stgraber tumbleweed [19:36] -1 lack of archive wide experience [19:36] -1 lack of archive wide experience received from micahg-work [19:36] Not enough recent history of broad contribution. Be glad to see you back after that changes. [19:37] -1 ubuntukylin-dev membership is more appropriate at this time [19:37] -1 ubuntukylin-dev membership is more appropriate at this time received from barry [19:37] ok [19:37] I concur with ScottK as well [19:37] +0 [ a DD, yes, but not enough broad experience in Ubuntu, or core-dev endorsement ] [19:37] +0 [ a DD, yes, but not enough broad experience in Ubuntu, or core-dev endorsement ] received from tumbleweed [19:38] -1 [19:38] -1 received from barry [19:38] #endvote [19:38] Voting ended on: grant happyaron core-dev rights [19:38] Votes for:0 Votes against:3 Abstentions:2 [19:38] Motion denied [19:38] ok, that wasn't carried, let's go for ubuntukylin-dev [19:39] #vote should happyaron be granted membership of ubuntukylin-dev? [19:39] Please vote on: should happyaron be granted membership of ubuntukylin-dev? [19:39] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [19:39] +1 [19:39] +1 received from tumbleweed [19:39] +1 [19:39] +1 received from stgraber [19:39] +1 [19:39] +1 received from barry [19:39] +1 [19:39] +1 received from micahg-work [19:39] +1+1 [19:39] +1+1 received from ScottK [19:39] heh [19:39] #endvote [19:39] Voting ended on: should happyaron be granted membership of ubuntukylin-dev? [19:39] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [19:39] Motion carried [19:39] happyaron: congratulations, I hope that gives you what you need [19:39] thank you [19:40] and with luck, we'll see you back for core-dev in the future [19:40] tumbleweed: will come back when I got more archive wide activity, :) [19:40] happyaron: we look forward to it! [19:40] :-) [19:40] There's also ubuntu-desktop too. [19:40] and MOTU [19:41] #topic any other business? === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Developer Membership Board Meeting | Current topic: any other business? [19:41] I guess not [19:41] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [19:42] Meeting ended Mon Sep 9 19:42:03 2013 UTC. [19:42] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-09-09-19.03.moin.txt [19:42] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-09-09-19.03.html [19:42] * tumbleweed loves short meetings [19:42] thanks everyone [19:42] thanks tumbleweed [19:42] thanks! [19:42] happyaron: LP membership granted [19:42] thanks! === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha