[00:01] not goinding the best buoilfd for p5110 sadly [00:02] i wish people woyuld update damn wiki [00:03] .whois starcarr [00:03] woops [00:46] anyone around? === LarrySteeze is now known as LarrySteeze|Away [00:55] yup [01:11] So im trying todo a manual install with "adb sideload" what zip do i need to get for my nexus 10? [01:11] new music-app crashes alot.. and I just have 1 mp3.. but.. mplayer can play the whole song without crashing.... just an fyi [01:12] From here i mean: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ [01:12] mp3 test is needed... let it play for more then 10 seconds [01:20] adamther: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Manual_Download_.26_Installation [01:20] Nexus 10 is 'mantaray' [01:21] adamther: so you want http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armel+manta.zip and then http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip [01:21] giving it a shot ty [01:22] having todo this using VMWare .>.< [01:25] k i got it ty [02:21] moo === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [02:48] anyone here use xiaomi phone? === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [06:34] good morning === Moscherkobold_ is now known as Moscherkobold [07:06] can anyone helop me install ubuntu touch on my nextbook nx008hd8g ? [07:17] pondera: i dont think we have an image for that device yet. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices === spaced is now known as nospaced [07:33] is ubuntu touch preview available on 4.1.2 ? on source as i synched -b jellybean ? [07:39] ? [07:39] good support here right :/ [07:41] ogra_, ping [07:41] sil2100: ping [07:45] ? [07:45] is ubuntu touch preview available on 4.1.2 ? on source as i synched -b jellybean ? [07:46] nospaced: No, it doesn't use most of android. [07:47] oh [07:47] also i saw in the manifest that it just synchs CM10 sources [07:47] Yeah, that'd be right, or something like that. [07:48] but nothing from ubuntu :/ [07:49] hmm seems to be just cm10 that i synched from ubuntu repo o.O [07:49] I'm not familiar with the latest changes, but there should be a pretty much separate ubuntu image. [07:51] well i will quit this one then [07:51] thanks bye === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [08:17] pstolowski: pong! [08:19] sil2100: hey! did you find anything re blockers of touch_ro update? is it autopilot? [08:20] pstolowski: not really... I wanted the AP guys to comment on that, but I guess they're in flight now === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:22] sil2100: I see.. but you're positive there is no pkg dependency between camera and mediascanner? [08:23] Good morning all, happy Monday and happy Wonderful Weirdos Day! :-D [08:29] asac: I'm not quite ready yet, but I want to land package removal support in click today (the UI people want to start work on their side of things this week so I'm trying to unblock them). Anything I need to coordinate with? [08:35] pstolowski: I checked the rdepends, and nothing seemed to be connected - I'm not sure how mediascanner works, but I guess there should be no dependencies between them [08:37] pstolowski: I'm looking now more closely [08:39] pstolowski: actually, do you by any chance know how the 'automation crash' looks like? I might know more if I had access to the logs, do you know where I could find info about the crashes that asac mentioned? [08:40] pstolowski: because I don't even think it's autopilot's fault... ;/ Autopilot only modifies some typical X11 behavior, so not sure how that could affect automation testing of touch apps [08:44] hi [08:44] i am here in a chanel who talkes about new ubuntu-phones? [08:50] MacSlow, hey, how are you? [08:50] Salut seb128 [08:50] MacSlow, could you have a look to https://code.launchpad.net/~sjakthol/notify-osd/fix-1191565/+merge/184462 (it's a one liner) [08:50] MacSlow, it should fix bug #1191565 [08:50] bug 1191565 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "show OSD all skipped tracks, showing wrong thumbnails, repeating, very annoying" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1191565 [08:50] seb128, taking a look [08:50] MacSlow, danke === b0bben_ is now known as b0bben [08:52] hi, if i have just done a full backup... what is the next step [09:01] gusch: can you please re-approve this MR ? I had to ask jenkins to run again on it because it was failing for some werid reason (not because of tests failing) https://code.launchpad.net/~amanzi-team/camera-app/camera-app-actions/+merge/183835 [09:03] nerochiaro: ok [09:04] nerochiaro: done [09:05] gusch: cheers [09:14] cjwatson: we should get a feel whether unity8/mir will land today or not [09:15] gah, my n4 is dead [09:15] cjwatson: package removal support sounds "safe" in the sense of our autopilots http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/4094/ [09:15] no amount of charging or button holding seems to revive it [09:16] \o/ red light === jcollado is now known as jcollado_afk [09:20] sil2100: I don't know, sorry [09:21] popey: oh no... no testing then :) [09:21] oh red light means: it works again? [09:22] seb128, the patch breaks synchronous icon-value notifications (e.g. Volume Up/Down)... marked it as needs fixing. [09:22] MacSlow, ok :/ [09:22] MacSlow, thanks [09:22] seb128, np [09:22] MacSlow, do you have an idea of the right fix? maybe you can just do it? ;-) [09:23] asac: I have two devices ☻ [09:23] asac: red light means it's not completely dead ☻ [09:23] nice [09:23] seb128, this is certainly a regression in notify-osd... the update-notification used to work as expected (and not trigger a new notification) [09:23] i should also get a spare phone :) [09:24] popey: so the 33 build looks amazing [09:24] have you tried that? [09:24] flashing now [09:24] at least the dashboard is good... with click o course crashing all over [09:24] seb128, without digging in myself I can't easily fix this... you'd need to "steal" me away from the UbuntuTouch-tasks [09:25] ralsina: your click scope is crashing all the time on maguro [09:25] seb128, kgunn is the one to persuade/inform [09:25] MacSlow, ok, we didn't have lot of changes... could be http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/notify-osd/trunk/revision/466 [09:25] MacSlow, don't worry about it [09:25] ralsina: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/4094/ check out each test that has a crash [09:25] its all click scope [09:27] Hi! [09:27] What's wrong with SDK? - QMetaType::registerType: Binary compatibility break -- Type flags for type 'QPaintBufferCacheEntry' [1024] don't match. Previously registered TypeFlags(0x3), now registering [09:27] newly created project does not run anymore [09:30] lool: so seems the crash count for click has been peaking since 32:20130908.1:20130908 [09:36] asac: Yeah, *I* think it's safe, but as you say yourself everyone always says that :-) [09:37] cjwatson: maybe it fixes our click scope crashes :)? [09:38] Seems unlikely [09:39] seb128, you should assign artwork bugs to Nick Tait [09:39] mpt, thanks === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc [09:49] ralsina: wake up :) [09:54] ogra_: we have a bunch of autopilot tests that pass on jenkins, but when we run it on device using phablet-test-run from our laptops, they fail [09:54] ogra_: do you know if there is a difference between adbd on laptop vs on jenkins that may cause this? [09:59] timp: how are they failing? got an example I can run here locally? [10:00] popey: see https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1cnBELUgsBCz9TMq-mR4VN4bwCKmDDXT9JxG-WFjzDFc/edit at the bottom ("Script -version 0") [10:00] popey: that's what I did. Give me some minutes, I'll pastebin the results. [10:01] popey: webbrowser results: https://pastebin.canonical.com/97179/ [10:02] popey: notes-app results: https://pastebin.canonical.com/97180/ [10:02] popey: gallery-app passed. In previous runs (with different package versions?) gallery failed, and the other two were passign [10:06] mzanetti: do you have any idea what this failure might be about ? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-saucy/2650/console [10:07] nerochiaro: I guess some jenkins bug [10:08] mzanetti: i'll trigger a rebuild. any idea if anyone should see it so that it can be fixed ? [10:08] nerochiaro: om26er probably... [10:08] nerochiaro: or fginther [10:10] timp: ta [10:11] mzanetti: also i have this failing autolanding, but it doesn't tell me why: https://code.launchpad.net/~amanzi-team/camera-app/camera-app-actions/+merge/183835 [10:11] mzanetti: sorry for bugging you today. i would usually bug omer but he's not around. if you know who else i should bug please let me know :) [10:12] popey: I will thank you a lot more if you can help us in getting this to work. None of my MRs are being accepted because we have difficulties getting the on-device autopilot tests to work locally [10:13] timp: why do you build and run the uitk? or is that the thing you're testing? [10:13] gusch: super simple review: https://code.launchpad.net/~amanzi-team/notes-app/notes-app-remove-hud/+merge/184515 [10:13] nerochiaro: ok [10:13] gusch: thanks [10:14] popey: in my doc, skip the 'Manual' testing part, scroll down to "Script - version 0". I don't build the UITK there. [10:14] popey: but in the end I want to create a script that I run at night that updates my phone image, and builds&runs the UITK branch that I am working on [10:14] +autopilot tests with that UITK build. only so far they keep failing, even for our "stable" versions [10:15] nerochiaro: you are right - a simple one - so I simply approved (as notes really doesn't use hud directly anymore) [10:15] popey: so the goal is to test new UITK branches with apps autopilot tests before merging them into UITK trunk [10:19] nerochiaro: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/camera-app-saucy-amd64-autolanding/36/console [10:19] nerochiaro: network failure :/ [10:21] timp: i have a similar script which i use sometimes to test all autopilot packages on all core apps http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/phablet-flash-wrapper/view/head:/phablet-testing.sh [10:21] mzanetti: will jenkins retry automatically ? [10:21] nerochiaro: no. you need to approve the MR again [10:22] rsalveti: I see that the upstart-local-bridge+upstart-property-watcher aren't yet running correctly. Looks like /etc/init/upstart-local-bridge.conf needs to mkdir -p /dev/socket and init.rc needs updating for the upstart-property-watcher? [10:25] asac: ack, 7:25 AM dude ;-) [10:25] popey: ah great, that can save me some time thinking up my own script :) Is it for the new ro images? [10:25] asac: we'll get on it [10:26] popey: my device doesn't have /userdata [10:26] timp: tested briefly, hence the "enable developer mode" bit - which probably needs changing [10:26] * popey fixes [10:26] timp: it should be /userdata/.writable_image [10:27] so far I didn't need to touch the .developer_mode. [10:27] surely you do for apt-get to work? [10:27] cdimage-touch always gives rw image? [10:27] popey: nope, but I am using the stock image, not pending [10:27] popey: so maybe my approach will break soon. [10:27] shouldn't make a difference [10:28] popey: since when are the images read-only? [10:28] * popey will test both scenarios [10:28] popey: stock image from last night was still 20130828.1 [10:28] if you phablet-flash ubuntu-system, they're read-only [10:28] there is no "stock" image, as there is no default for phablet-flash [10:28] ah. ubuntu-system. I'm still using cdimage-touch. [10:28] ya [10:28] ditto, mostly [10:28] popey: ok with stock I meant cdimage-touch without --pending [10:29] gotcha === rachelliu_ is now known as rachelliu [10:37] sil2100: do you know who should I talk to if jenkins keeps failing autolanding merge request branches ? [10:38] sil2100: i've got various MRs that are approved but fail autolanding and go back to needs review [10:38] nerochiaro: om26er and fginther. If urgent, I can try to help until they show up [10:38] nerochiaro: someone in #ubuntu-qa perhaps? Maybe plars or fginther [10:38] nerochiaro: how do they fail to auto-land? What does make it to fail then? Mediumtests? [10:39] sil2100: a network error while trying to merge the branch [10:39] Ah, uuuh [10:39] nerochiaro: the network error should be temporary... a re-trigger should most likely not fail any more because of this [10:39] nerochiaro: I suppose re-approving didn't help? [10:40] nerochiaro: if its a persistent network failure, only fginther or the people in the QA channels can help. [10:41] sil2100: mzanetti: ok, i'll wait to see what the re-approve does [10:41] thanks all === jcollado_afk is now known as jcollado [10:44] asac: which tests are click package crashes? All I see are in rssreader, filemanager and calendar... or are they fixed already? [10:44] bzoltan1: you are also testing with touch images, not touch-ro, right? [10:45] I wonder whether that makes any difference for autopilot [10:45] popey: are the "touch" images installed with cdimage-touch, and "touch-ro" with ubunty-system? [10:46] cdimage-touch = flipped, ubuntu-system = ro, yes [10:46] ubuntu-system will become default Real Soon Now™ [10:47] asac: oh, crashes are not counted as failures! Got it [10:55] timp:i use cdimage-touch [10:56] timp, popey: my concern here is not the ro or normal image ... but the simple fact that the dash tests are not executed the same way as the phablet-tests [11:00] bzoltan1: sure. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:01] timp: I run the gallery tests on the pending image -> Green ... installed the UITK from the PPA -> Red ... installed back the UITK what was on the pending image -> Red again ... [11:01] popey ^ [11:03] ralsina: all app tests have click scope crashing. yeah === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [11:21] mpt: Yo, quick bit of help needed [11:22] mpt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone → what should we do when the current information isn't correct? [11:22] make the button insensitive also or do something else? [11:22] when changing pin/passphrase, that is [11:22] ahh [11:23] katie_, do we have a standard error appearance for text fields yet? [11:24] I don't see a way to do something like that [11:24] well, I could change the colour of the text maybe... === gusch is now known as gusch|lunch [11:29] I'm writing a description of the error handling now, but I'm assuming the existence of a standard error appearance (maybe you could set class="error" on the control) [11:30] (if QML works like styled XML that way) [11:33] Laney, but the error highlighting and sensitivity should work the same way for all six dialogs: "Switch to swipe", "Switch to passcode", "Switch to passphrase", "Change passcode", "Change passphrase", and "Change SIM PIN". So maybe you can refactor while you're waiting. :-) === hikiko is now known as hikiko|lunch [11:34] It will do [11:34] I tried to write it in anticpation of this [11:34] cool [11:34] but I don't know of any class thing like that [11:34] yeah, me neither... [11:35] well, there's "states" but they can just set properties that already exist [11:35] and it'll be local to the page and so on [11:36] I thought this was all done with CSS [11:36] it would be something the textfield provides I suppose [11:36] no idea, but it's not exposed to application developers at that level [11:36] darn [11:37] http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-13.10/qml/ui-toolkit/qml-ubuntu-components0-textfield.html#color-prop [11:37] that's what we have [11:37] didn't mean to include the anchor [11:40] ah wait... [11:41] ralsina: Just to check: the click scope crashes aren't anything to do with click itself, are they? [11:42] getting confused, there is some styling stuff but I don't know what it does. It doesn't seem to do what you'd want here. [11:42] Or, well, you can apparently change the theme in use dynamically [11:43] Still seems like something the SDK should be doing to me [11:45] Laney, yeah, there should be an error state for text fields, an error state for picker widgets, an error state for checkboxes, etc, all with consistent appearance. [11:46] * Laney nods [11:47] mpt: want to file an SDK bug? [11:54] Doing so now/. [11:55] mpt: what's an error state? [11:56] mpt: you can disable the components when they are not applicable [11:57] timp, from the bug report I'm writing: "The error appearance should be used for fields that you have filled out incorrectly, or other controls that have a disallowed state. For example, if you choose a time in a restaurant reservation system, submit the request, and the server responds that that time is unavailable, the time picker should retain the previous value (so you can see what you chose) but have the error state." [11:57] mpt: what would cause an error state for a checkbox? They are either on or off. If it is really needed, also talk to design to describe the behavior and visuals [11:58] mpt: well, you can have a label somewhere saying "invalid time selected" until you select a proper time. But your approach is also a possibility, it is a question for design to answer I think [11:59] so add it to the ubuntu-ux project also [11:59] timp, usually checkbox states could be handled by insensitivity. But as with the reservation example, rules might be so complex or volatile can be checked only on the server side. For example, "Sorry, you can’t choose Carob and Chocolate in the same ice cream." [12:00] (so volatile +that they+ can be checked...) [12:00] timp, yes, I'm suggesting the error state should apply to error captions as well, so that they're styled consistently too. [12:02] how can I see mouse on nexus 7 running ubuntu 13.10? My screen is cracked so I cannout use touch [12:09] mzanetti: ping [12:09] thomi: pong [12:10] uups. tmoenicke, not thomi [12:10] cjwatson: not AFAIK [12:12] ralsina: Good === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === hikiko|lunch is now known as hikiko [12:14] Laney, timp: bug 1222787 [12:14] bug 1222787 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "No standard error appearance for text fields and other controls" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1222787 === gusch|lunch is now known as gusch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:22] asac: I'm ready to go with click 0.4.4 now; permission to upload? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~click-hackers/click/trunk/view/head:/debian/changelog [12:29] cjwatson: hey, wrt to that changelog, are the dynamic keys in the manifest something you plan to extend? [12:29] Laney, sorry this is taking a while, it's more complicated than I expected [12:30] sergiusens: if appropriate - why? === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:31] sergiusens: (long-term, it's kind of a hack around not having click in C so that it can expose fast library functions, though) [12:32] cjwatson: ok,just correlating to what you told seb128 last week, thought there was a change of thought. I prefer not going dynamic there btw [12:32] cjwatson: ok, lets do it and do another image run right after to see if there is damage; i assume unity8 still needs a good part of the day so lets not block [12:32] sergiusens: it seemed simpler than adding an option that most users would probably want to pass [12:33] sergiusens: can you expand on your last sentence? [12:34] ralsina: sil2100: any ideas/news on the click-store crashes? [12:34] asac: not yet [12:36] sergiusens: I guess it's not so much of a change of thought as "this is probably about the least silly way to do things for now" [12:37] cjwatson: yeah, I agree with that [12:37] * sergiusens is looking for words [12:42] sergiusens: wordify quickly if it's something that should block this upload :) [12:43] does anyone knows how many GU there are on an N7? [12:49] sergiusens: wordify quickly if it's something that should block this upload :) [12:49] oreneeshy: 18 I think [12:50] greyback: really? [12:50] hello all [12:50] greyback: ahh u men 1gu=18 [12:50] greyback: tnx [12:50] oreneeshy: yep [12:51] cjwatson: no, don't block [12:51] cjwatson: I pused asac to push it myself [12:51] sergiusens: hi! are there any plans to get nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel into the archive? [12:52] OK, click 0.4.4 on its way into the archive now, thanks [12:52] jdstrand: no, the plan is to ship that in the click package [12:52] sergiusens: ok, thanks [12:56] Nearly there... [12:57] gusch: do you know who's our backup QA guy when omer isn't around ? [12:57] nerochiaro: no idea - mzanetti ? ;) [12:58] cjwatson: hi, i just noticed the blueprint update about the change of logic to install click at boot [12:58] * mzanetti hides under the desk [12:58] cjwatson: what is the directory to drop packages onto to get this to work? [12:58] dbarth: That was actually cleanup from last week [12:58] dbarth: And it's actually a misnamed work item now because we did it a different way :) [12:58] ah ok [12:58] nerochiaro: not that I would be your backup QA but always happy to help. what's the issue? [12:58] uh [12:59] dbarth: So is this for OEM/carrier customisation? [12:59] webapps [12:59] defaut ones [12:59] i need to turn the default demo set into clickpackages and have that integrated in the image [12:59] For things that should be installed by default on the core images we ship, talk to sergiusens to get them into his list of core apps for which we already have arrangements [13:00] i noticed the script to pre-install the ones listed in archive-team [13:00] will bother him instead ;) nw [13:00] Right, we might as well just add your stuff to that [13:00] ok [13:00] thanks cjwatson [13:00] Assuming that you've already dealt with the issues around apparmor confinement of webapps, adding whatever hooks you need, etc. [13:00] I know there was a thread about this but didn't read it in detail [13:00] i'm just into that [13:00] i'm keeping icons into a deb package for now [13:01] going into a system default dir === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:02] Laney, done. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings?action=diff&rev2=33&rev1=32 [13:04] tedg: hi. sorry for the late notice... is it possible for you to join the hangout? [13:05] mzanetti, Sure, I might have to jump out in the middle. I've got workers coming to my house. [13:05] mzanetti, Link? [13:05] <--- recompiling systemd and udev to use the accept syscall instead of accept4.. that is why my cpu is going nuts with udev.. revealved with strace [13:05] 2.6.35... what a pain [13:06] mzanetti: i have an AP test failing on mako, but if fails randomly, and i don't have a mako device to check anyway. quite unsure what to do except ask jenkins to re-run everything until it gets it right.... here: https://code.launchpad.net/~amanzi-team/notes-app/notes-app-remove-hud/+merge/184515 (you can see previous run were successful) [13:07] tedg: see the link as PM [13:07] morning all [13:09] asac, ogra, popey: had a play with Saturdays image iirc over the weekend I need to file a few bugs for it. 3g is still flakey for me but at least is showing up again :) [13:10] which image? [13:11] popey: did you have a chance to look at the autopilot fails I told you about in the morning? [13:13] timp: ah yes, I ran the full set on my machine [13:13] nerochiaro: I'll check in a bit. in a meeting right now [13:13] mzanetti: thank [13:14] timp: I don't get the "broken pipe" errors you get === mzanetti is now known as mzanetti|otp [13:14] lemme upload [13:14] popey: for you the tests passed? [13:16] timp: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/20130909-112931/ [13:16] thats all the logs from all the apps === marcoceppi_ is now known as marcoceppi [13:20] popey: I'm just double checking now [13:21] popey: 20130908.1 [13:22] popey: apparently [13:24] popey: I have no click packages, no messages show up unless you go into the messaging indicator or messaging app, ringing out is hit an miss, shorts nearly kills the phone with it's slowness, rotate is slower than the normal slow speed the list goes on really [13:24] davmor2: no click packages> anything in /usr/share/click/preinstalled/ ? [13:25] cjwatson: sorry let me improve that one, the installed ones display an iconless square and are installed, however the ones for installation are not displayed [13:26] speaking of click pacakges, has anyone else noticed that installing them shows them in the app lens twice? [13:26] ah, perhaps worth seeing if there's anything in ~/.cache/unity-scope-click.log or however it's spelled [13:26] cwayne: yes, I'm told that's known [13:26] likewise the iconlessness is known [13:27] cjwatson, we're just creating a TODO for the phone sprint here, anything you need from use for click (tests, integration bits etc) [13:27] s/use/us/ [13:28] ogra_: IIRC somebody was already sorting out an integration test to ensure that there exist some preinstalled apps [13:28] ok [13:28] ogra_: other than that nothing new I think ... [13:28] great, sergiusens just told me he is on that [13:29] I thought it was him but didn't want to poke him by mistake :) [13:29] popey: click 0.4.4 has pkcon search implemented, BTW [13:29] yay [13:29] I think you were asking about that ... [13:30] correct [13:30] ii click 0.4.3 armhf Click packages [13:30] damnit :D [13:30] It's on its way [13:33] mpt: thanks! [13:35] popey, cjwatson: so looking at this it looks like it has grabbed the info but it still isn't displayed http://paste.ubuntu.com/6083492/ [13:37] lookking good http://s7.postimg.org/mbjr96xgr/filename.png [13:37] lol 1 k [13:37] davmor2: how you installing them? [13:37] i am not offered any click packages on my phone [13:38] ChickenCutlass, hey, so my wireless data wasn't working over the weekend after I updated last week, any ideas? [13:38] [unity-scope-click] - DEBUG: click-scope.vala:338: Error calling webservice: Web request failed: HTTP 2 Cannot resolve hostname (search.apps.ubuntu.com) [13:38] oof [13:38] rickspencer3, so I know it was broken in the touch_ro image. [13:38] rickspencer3, I think rsalveti and ogra_ know the issue [13:39] ChickenCutlass, ok [13:39] thanls [13:39] yeah, in theory is fixed, sergiusens is checking [13:40] already checked on daily-proposed on friday. It may not be promoted to daily and that may be the reason === karni_ is now known as karni === karni is now known as Guest26170 === Guest26170 is now known as karni [13:46] davmor2: bug in the scope I guess, maybe ralsina knows [13:46] popey: that just looks like network not up yet [13:46] cjwatson, davmor2: no details yet, waiting for alecu to give it a look but he's a bit late today [13:48] This will help older kernels... https://github.com/gentoo/eudev/issues/7 [13:48] accept replacing accept4 in systemd, if accept4 does not exist [13:48] otherwise.. udev will max your cpu's [13:52] OrokuSaki, sounds like a goot notice tyo put on the porting page [13:53] =) [13:53] yay! [13:53] I don't know if it works yet... [13:53] still testing.. rebooting [13:54] I traced the process.. this is what it said.. http://pastebin.com/AjPMcmXW [13:54] over and over.. [13:55] I have 2.6.35.. but.. I don' think it's working.. or was just introduced in 2.6.36.. so.. change udev [13:55] and by it I mean syscall accept4 [13:55] which I have.. but... dunno [13:55] OrokuSaki: https://gitorious.org/mertp/kernel-clean/commit/6a7d47acd88bfd23a34f7508ef1ba52b1cb69b82 [13:56] you can add accept4 manually === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [13:56] it is there.. [13:56] probably added by palm [13:56] =) [13:57] I noticed the music-app does not play right unless udev is running.. so I had to find out why.... [13:57] I ripped out rules, etc.. [13:57] strace seemed to be better [13:57] Thanks Sts! [13:58] I recompiled systemd, on my device [13:58] with changing accept4 to accept Null Null, there were 3 places [13:59] <_5m0k3> popey: I'm not offered any click packages, either === mzanetti|otp is now known as mzanetti [13:59] davmor2: how are you installing those click packages? [13:59] I am not offered click packages.. so I tarred them all up and installed them on the new build =) [14:00] sudo click install ./com.ubuntu.developer.alecu.qr-code-0.2.click --force-missing-framework --all-users [14:00] etc [14:00] Then it will appear as an installed app [14:00] popey: I'm not, I don't see them, that was my point so cjwatson said to have a look at that file so I did [14:01] OrokuSaki: if it's a user-installed app, you should just use "pkcon install-local com.ubuntu.developer.alecu.qr-code-0.2.click" rather than the special invocation for preinstalling things [14:01] thanks man! =) [14:01] but sure, if you want to ram them into your image ... [14:03] ah [14:04] cjwatson: tedg so wrt to click icons (aka desktop hook), is there a plan? [14:04] as in the icons not showing? === kentb-out is now known as kentb [14:05] sergiusens, I have one in my head, does that count? :-) [14:05] I'm thinking that we can detect if the icon exists, and if so, then prepend the path [14:05] tedg: is it similar to what we already had or does it diverge? [14:05] sergiusens: (not my responsibility I think) [14:05] cjwatson: point taken [14:05] If it doesn't exist, we give a warning and realize we need a better plan. [14:06] tedg: seems reasonable [14:06] I imagine that'll work for 99% of the use cases right off the bat. [14:06] Perhaps we could file a recoverable error on ourselves so we could see if we need a plan B. [14:06] tedg: ok, makes sense. It's sort of similar to what was in the original desktop hook without the .exists() check [14:07] tedg: we can also add desktop file checking to the packaging linter [14:07] Yeah, I was concerned about the theming case. But I think we shouldn't let us block having something usable. [14:07] stretching a bit, but I think jdstrand left room for that [14:08] tedg: I don't think there is a plan for proper theming of click packages [14:08] sergiusens, I'm not sure we *need* a plan there. In that, if it breaks, the application wont' be usable and the feedback will come naturally :-) [14:08] (for the linter) === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:13] nerochiaro: re [14:14] nerochiaro: so... looking at the log, the error is this one: AssertionError: After 10.0 seconds test on NoteItem.height failed: Double(432.0) != dbus.Double(198.0, variant_level=1) [14:14] mzanetti: in a standup for the next 10 minutes [14:14] ok... I'll respond other pings first then. [14:14] tedg: sure [14:24]