[06:50] <Saviq> morning everyone o/
[06:56] <Mirv> welcome back Saviq!
[06:56] <Saviq> hey Mirv
[07:01] <mzanetti> Saviq: hi! welcome back!
[07:01] <Saviq> mzanetti, hey, thanks!
[07:01] <Gsport> we got tyour back
[07:03] <mzanetti> Saviq: need a mumble/hangout with you once you caught up with your mails
[07:03] <Saviq> mzanetti, indeed
[07:03] <mzanetti> tvoss: moin
[07:49] <mzanetti> sil2100: who do I need to ask for getting a new package into the default image?
[08:40] <Saviq> mzanetti, should something depend on it?
[08:40] <greyback> Saviq: welcome back
[08:41] <Saviq> greyback, hey, thanks!
[08:41] <mzanetti> Saviq: talking about qtdeclarative5-qtlocation-plugin. Apps will depend on it, however, we can't have such deps in click packages
[08:43] <Saviq> mzanetti, I think we'll have a meta-package for the framework which click apps can depend on
[08:43] <Saviq> mzanetti, so if the framework required is ubuntu-13.10 - there will be a metapackage like that or something
[08:44] <mzanetti> sounds reasonable. I just wanted to publish a click package depending on it on the weekend and noticed that it's not in yet
[08:44] <Saviq> mzanetti, but in the mean time - ogra can add it to the image seed
[08:44] <mzanetti> ogra... thanks
[08:44] <mzanetti> will ping him
[08:55] <Saviq> mzanetti, ok, I think now can be a good time - ready when you are
[08:55] <mzanetti> Saviq: I am
[08:56] <Saviq> mzanetti, ok, starting a hout
[08:57] <tjaalton> hey, gen3 intel is broken on saucy due to the dri driver saying it supports opengl2.1, which then makes it dog-slow as shown on bug 1222602
[08:58] <ubot5> bug 1222602 in mesa (Ubuntu) "[gen3] Bad performance on GMA950 and GMA3150" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1222602
[09:30] <Saviq> greyback, ping
[09:30] <greyback> Saviq: pong
[09:39] <asac> greyback: hey .. you feel landing is ready today?
[09:39] <asac> ricmm: ^^
[09:44] <larsu> MacSlow: what exactly in this branch breaks sync notifications? https://code.launchpad.net/~sjakthol/notify-osd/fix-1191565/+merge/184462
[09:45] <larsu> the fix works fine for me
[09:45] <greyback> asac: yes landing should happen today
[09:46] <mzanetti> greyback: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1221102 this should be fixed, right?
[09:46] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1221102 in Unity 8 "FTBFS Sep 5th" [Critical,Fix committed]
[09:46] <greyback> mzanetti: yep
[09:46] <mzanetti> I'm wondering why we don't see any releases of unity8 happening then
[09:47] <asac> greyback: whast still missing before we land?
[09:47] <asac> do you have a list of issues you want to nail down first?
[09:47] <greyback> mzanetti: releases are being blocked right now. They've to be done manually
[09:47] <greyback> asac: this is the doc we're following: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1wpeC8WLHJ6yn4YCYiJlAhD71HPugBMq80Xnmm99fhCI/edit#heading=h.x2vkdgbc9eq
[09:47] <mzanetti> greyback: blocked by us or is something else broken?
[09:48] <asac> mzanetti: we have publishing in manual mode
[09:48] <greyback> asac: I'm fixing up AP tests, and addressing review comments
[09:48] <asac> in order to ensure that unity can land in an isolated manner
[09:48] <asac> so if you want to land unity8 and mir, we are more or less ready in a couple of hours i believe
[09:48] <greyback> asac: excellent, I'll keep you posted
[10:01] <MacSlow> larsu, it breaks the layout causing the sync. bubble to not render
[10:02] <larsu> MacSlow: they do for me. Did you ./configure with --prefix=/usr so that the icons get picked up? (I had the same problem at first)
[10:03] <MacSlow> larsu, did use my usual build-test-script... hm... would be surprised if that all of a sudden failed me...
[10:03] <MacSlow> larsu, I can try again the usual/manual way...
[10:04] <seb128> MacSlow, can you try without that patch to confirm it's the patch creating the issue for you?
[10:04] <MacSlow> larsu, seb128: yeah... hold on
[10:05] <larsu> MacSlow: no, I didn't use that script (where is it?)
[10:06] <MacSlow> larsu, no... it's a local thing I've here... not part of the notify-osd branch
[10:13] <MacSlow> larsu, seb128: patch is ok... my bad... my local build/test-script for nosd failed me... :/
[10:13] <MacSlow> larsu, seb128: I'll approve it... tested it with rb use-case and usual examples from the nosd branch
[10:15] <larsu> MacSlow: thanks!
[10:16] <seb128> larsu, MacSlow: great, thanks
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[10:46] <Twenty-three> hi guys, a rencent update has left me without launcher in unity, i use nvidia propietary drivers, i have checked the compizconfig settings manager and there doesn't seem to be any problem with unity in there, how to go about it?
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[11:04] <greyback> Twenty-three: you have no dash either? (try hitting the "Super" key, aka the windows key)
[11:04] <Twenty-three> greyback, i don't have it either
[11:05] <Twenty-three> i only have the desktop and my desktop icons
[11:05] <greyback> Twenty-three: have you the panel at the top of the screen?
[11:05] <Twenty-three> nope
[11:05] <greyback> Twenty-three: is hte Unity plugin enabled in ccsm?
[11:05] <Twenty-three> i also lost the work spaces, i only have one
[11:05] <Twenty-three> unity is enabled and disabling it followed by enabling it again displays no errors or warnings
[11:07] <Twenty-three> i had experienced something similar before but that was caused by a kernel update, i don't think that was the issue this time
[11:07] <greyback> Twenty-three: beyond my expertise I'm sorry to say, I don't know unity that well
[11:07] <Twenty-three> (back then i could only fix it by installing from scratch as my attempts at fixing stuff messed up things further)
[11:08] <Twenty-three> kk, thanks greyback, i'll wait further
[11:08] <greyback> Twenty-three: if you try logging in as guest user, see if things work there? If so would indicate you've a configuration Unity doesn't like
[11:08] <bregma> Twenty-three, there have been no Unity stack updates in over a week, but the usual cause for the problem you're describing is you have a PPA in your APT sources
[11:09] <bregma> your best bet is probably to open a bug using 'ubuntu-bug unity' so more information can be gathered
[11:09] <Twenty-three> greyback, that had been suggested to me before but i wasn't quite sure how to go about it
[11:10] <Twenty-three> bregma, i'm afraid i don't know what you mean by PPA in APT sources
[11:10] <Twenty-three> would you mind elaborating a bit?
[11:13] <bregma> Twenty-three, if you log out you should see a log in prompt that lets you choose to log in as the guest user, that will let you do the test greyback suggested so we can try to narrow down the nature of the problem
[11:14] <Twenty-three> i'll try that
[11:15] <Twenty-three> how would i log out from the terminal though? (i am not that experienced and the terminal is all i can do since there is no dash)
[11:15] <bregma> hmm, there's a problem
[11:15] <bregma> do you get the login prompt when you reboot?
[11:16] <bregma> (you can configure to always just log in to your user on reboot)
[11:16] <Twenty-three> nope, i had set it so that i wouldn't be required to enter credentials upon booting
[11:16] <Twenty-three> oh, how would i do that?
[11:16] <Twenty-three> if i right click on the desktop i can get the settings to open
[11:18] <bregma> hmm, I have no idea, this is an area where I've never had to poke my head before
[11:19] <bregma> tell you what, just do the 'ubuntu-bug unity' from the terminal and file a bug, it will give more information
[11:20] <Twenty-three> kk, i'll investigate that and i'll get back here to report results, brb
[11:20] <Twenty-three> (currently in windows)
[11:20] <Twenty-three> thanks bregma, i'll be back soon, i should hope
[11:23] <greyback> mzanetti: have a sec: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/unity-api/add-qenums/+merge/184534
[11:24] <mzanetti> greyback: refresh the page
[11:24] <greyback> mzanetti: :) thanks
[11:25] <greyback> mzanetti: that explains why the enums weren't working. Will clean that up now
[11:25] <mzanetti> thanks greyback
[11:25] <greyback> np
[11:32] <mzanetti> Saviq: we have an issue with click apps :/
[11:33] <Saviq> mzanetti, ?
[11:33] <mzanetti> Saviq: so, when a click app is launched, I get it's desktop file which is located in ~/.local/share/applications/
[11:33] <mzanetti> Saviq: because of click app's nature, the icon must be referred to relative
[11:33] <mzanetti> Saviq: but in fact the icons is somewhere in /opt/
[11:34] <mzanetti> => neither Dash nor Launcher can display it currently
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[11:34] <Saviq> mzanetti, that's what the Path= in the .desktop file is supposed to take care of, no?
[11:35] <Saviq> mzanetti, i.e. "%1/%2".arg(path).arg(icon)
[11:35] <Saviq> mzanetti, where path is Path in .desktop, icon is Icon in .desktop?
[11:35] <mzanetti> look at that...
[11:35] <mzanetti> I totally missed that one :)
[11:35] <mzanetti> nice
[11:36]  * mzanetti wonders if it shouldn't be X-Click-Path or the like
[11:36] <mzanetti> but ok... can solve the problem with this
[11:36] <Saviq> mzanetti, bug 1204596 btw
[11:36] <ubot5> bug 1204596 in unity-mir "Unity 8 does not honor Path= in desktop files" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204596
[11:36] <mzanetti> aha!
[12:00] <Twenty-three> i'm back
[12:00] <Twenty-three> i found out how to log out from the terminal
[12:01] <Twenty-three> when logging in as a guest everything seems normal for a few seconds, then i see a black screen and only get to see my mouse movements, no desktop, no icons, no dash and no launcher
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[12:25] <Saviq> dednick, ping
[12:25] <dednick> Saviq: pong
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[12:34] <Saviq> dandrader, ping
[12:35] <dandrader> Saviq, pong
[12:35] <dandrader> Saviq, welcome back!
[12:35] <Saviq> dandrader, right back at you! :)
[12:35] <dandrader> :)
[12:45] <fginther> sil2100, we still need to merge changes into lp:autopilot and friends
[12:46] <fginther> sil2100, we need a new head :-)
[12:47] <sil2100> fginther: what do you mean? btw. could you enable auto-landing for the 1.3 branches? ;)
[12:50] <Twenty-three> how can i reset unity in 13.04?
[12:50] <sil2100> fginther: since if there were some changes waiting to get merged, then just merge it into trunk and then backport to 1.3 ;)
[12:54] <fginther> sil2100, we just need a place to maintain the lp:autopilot branch so that upstream merger keeps going
[12:54] <fginther> sil2100, we'll figure it out, in a meeting now
[12:54] <thomi> sil2100: I just replied to your email
[12:57] <fginther> sil2100, lp:autopilot/1.3 jobs are deployed
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[13:03] <sil2100> Thanks! fginther lp:autopilot is still there
[13:03] <sil2100> But we'll be diverging Head soon
[13:04] <Saviq> dednick, you joining?
[13:04] <dednick> yup
[13:05] <fginther> sil2100, yes, it's still there, but there is now nothing to drive upstream merger
[13:06] <fginther> the "autopilot" project entry was changed to lp:autopilot/1.3
[13:06] <fginther> sil2100, we need a new cupstream2distro-config entry for lp:autopilot
[13:06] <sil2100> fginther: ok, let me put that in no-dailies :)
[13:07] <sil2100> fginther: can I do that after lunch?
[13:07] <fginther> sil2100, I can do that, no worries. Just wanted to work out a location
[13:08] <fginther> sil2100, we need to figure out a general approach. Autopilot is just the first case
[13:13] <ricmm> mzanetti: ping
[13:13] <ricmm> the failing test you see drops in waitUntilApplicationWindowIsFullyVisible() ?
[13:13] <mzanetti> ricmm: in a meeting right now. will check in a bit
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[13:31] <cwayne> hey guys, I'm wondering what the plan for additional scopes is with the r/o image?  Can they simply go in ~/.local/share/unity/scopes?
[13:34] <mzanetti|otp> greyback: dandrader, mterry, we need to move the standup
[13:34] <mzanetti|otp> I'll ping you in a bit
[13:34] <mterry> mzanetti|otp, ok
[13:41] <karni_> guys, unity8 builds, but can't run properly http://paste.ubuntu.com/6083510/
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[13:45] <mhr3> cwayne, there's no possibility to install additional scopes on the device
[13:45] <mhr3> for 13.10
[13:45] <mhr3> well.. besides in the oem image
[13:45] <mhr3> but that's not really installing
[13:45] <cwayne> this is for the oem image :)
[13:46] <mhr3> cwayne, all the scope bits will be in /custom/...
[13:46] <cwayne> like /custom/usr/share/unity/scopes ?
[13:47] <mhr3> and /custom/something will be part of XDG_DATA_DIRS
[13:47] <mhr3> cwayne, there was talk about loosing the share part, not sure what was the conclusion
[13:47] <mhr3> think it's /custom/xdg now
[13:47] <mhr3> seb128, ^?
[13:48] <seb128> mhr3, cwayne: /custom/xdg/{data,config}
[13:49] <seb128> cwayne, mhr3: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks/0.2
[13:49] <mhr3> seb128, is /custom/xdg one of XDG_DATA_DIRS or is it /custom/xdg/data?
[13:49] <cwayne> seb128: do we have this documented (specifically how scopes will be laid out)?
[13:49] <seb128> cwayne, mhr3: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/149433407/ubuntu-touch-customization-hooks_0.1_0.2.diff.gz
[13:50] <seb128> cwayne, I've no idea about that, I've not been part of the discussions about scopes customization...
[13:50] <mhr3> cwayne, same as on normal image but you s@/usr/share@/custom/xdg/data@
[13:51] <mhr3> cwayne, i have writing a todo for that on my list
[13:51] <mhr3> eh... a howto on my todo :)
[13:52] <cwayne> mhr3: :)
[13:52] <mhr3> let me check my device though.. was testing it there
[13:52] <mhr3> can paste you the tree it you want it now
[13:54] <cwayne> mhr3: that'd be a good start
[13:55] <ricmm> dandrader: ping
[13:55] <ricmm> dandrader: have you been able to take a look at the last failing test?
[13:56] <kgunn> Saviq: "glad to have that sorted".....famous last words ?...that was one of those meeting i fear we'll repeat before we conclude 13.10
[13:57] <dandrader> ricmm, you're talking about u8-newAppAPI2 branch? greyback just got it fixed
[13:57] <dandrader> verified myself
[13:58] <greyback> mzanetti|otp: when you return, would like your 3rd pass
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[13:59] <Saviq> Cimi, dandrader, kgunn, greyback, mterry, mzanetti, MacSlow, dednick can we do standup now?
[13:59] <mzanetti> ack
[13:59] <greyback> yep
[14:00] <MacSlow> Saviq, ok
[14:00] <dandrader> Saviq, ok
[14:00] <mterry> ok
[14:01] <Saviq> Cimi, you around?
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[14:11] <Saviq> kgunn, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/362b8d3cb68f318a3af962041a77faa4e0dc1178
[14:14] <mzanetti> ricmm: pong
[14:14] <mzanetti> ricmm: is the question still valid?
[14:16] <mzanetti> greyback: hmm... still failing
[14:16] <ricmm> mzanetti: not sure, I havent confirmed
[14:16] <mzanetti> greyback: altough different
[14:16] <ricmm> mzanetti: gerry says you'd need trunk unity-api
[14:16] <ricmm> which im installing deps for
[14:16] <greyback> mzanetti: what is failing?
[14:16] <ricmm> zzz
[14:16] <mzanetti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6083638/
[14:17] <greyback> mzanetti: jenkins won't be happy, since qtubuntu changes have to land anyway
[14:17] <mzanetti> greyback: no, this is locally
[14:17] <mzanetti> but true.. I didn't update unity-api
[14:17] <mzanetti> so the roles might be missing
[14:17] <greyback> mzanetti: yep that's why
[14:19] <mzanetti> greyback: \o/
[14:19] <greyback> mzanetti: yay!
[14:19] <ricmm> same here -- \o/
[14:19] <ricmm> happr0ved
[14:19] <greyback> ok let's land this sh*t!
[14:19] <ricmm> ill do a round of testing
[14:19] <ricmm> got a nexus 4 now
[14:20] <greyback> I'm building *everything* now
[14:20] <mzanetti> greyback: what happened with appIdToDesktopFile() ?
[14:20] <greyback> ricmm: how will we be switching SF to Mir and back?
[14:20] <mzanetti> just dropped it?
[14:20] <greyback> mzanetti: didn't need it, dropped it
[14:20] <mzanetti> ok
[14:20] <mzanetti> greyback: well, looks good to me now
[14:21] <greyback> mzanetti: thank you for reviewing
[14:21] <mzanetti> greyback: approved, altough NOT top-approved
[14:21] <greyback> mzanetti: perfect
[14:21] <mzanetti> I'll let the coordination of all those branches to you
[14:21] <ricmm> wait for the top approvals, I'll coordinate that
[14:21] <ricmm> give me 10
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[14:25] <mhall119> Saviq: http://ubuntuone.com/1EN3zFv0U5R8pvAq38lwTj is killing me :(
[14:26] <mhall119> look at my load
[14:26] <Saviq> dednick, any update on the CPU hogging ↑?
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[14:28] <Saviq> mhall119, I just got back from 2 weeks holiday, so can't comment from the top of my head
[14:28] <Saviq> mhall119, can you please file a bug with as much info as possible
[14:28] <mhall119> Saviq: ok, I'll wait for dednick then
[14:29] <mhall119> didn't I report a bug for this already?  I'll check
[14:32] <Saviq> mhall119, there was one reported
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[14:32] <Saviq> mhall119, bug #1206991
[14:32] <ubot5> bug 1206991 in Unity 8 "Frequent CPU hogging" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206991
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[14:33] <Saviq> mhall119, but since it's fix released...
[14:33] <Saviq> mhall119, but first, is that with all the latest things?
[14:35] <mhall119> Saviq: I dist-upgraded over the weekend,but I'll do it again and reboot
[14:36] <mhall119> Saviq: my issue might be unrelated to those fixes though
[14:39] <mhall119> heh, rebooted and now sensorservice is between 95% and 100% CPU
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[14:42] <mterry> kgunn, btw, I forgot to mention last week, but you can now set the password/pin as described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1218010/comments/1
[14:42] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1218010 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "greeter unlock configuration" [Undecided,New]
[14:42] <kgunn> mterry: thanks!
[14:42] <mterry> kgunn, and the rest of that bug is changing the system settings app to use that goofy method until we split out
[14:42] <mterry> kgunn, so UI even should do the right thing (it's fix committed, not sure if released)
[14:42] <kgunn> got it
[14:46] <mhall119> ok, sensorservice is behaving now, must have been actually doing something not just stuck
[14:56] <Saviq> MacSlow, ping
[15:02] <Saviq> mterry, ping
[15:03] <MacSlow> Saviq, yup?
[15:03] <mterry> Saviq, hello
[15:04] <mhr3_> cwayne, sorry it took a while, been in a meeting
[15:04] <mhr3_> cwayne, anyway, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6083805/ you just need to change the share to xdg/data
[15:05] <mhr3_> cwayne, for some yet to be fixed reason python scopes in the /custom don't work, but C ones do
[15:07] <cwayne> mhr3_: ah, perfect
[15:07] <dednick> Saviq, mhall119: no update. havent been able to reproduce it. but i havent had much time to spend trying.
[15:08] <cwayne> mhr3_: is there an eta for a python scope fix?
[15:09] <mhr3_> cwayne, atm no
[15:09] <mhr3_> cwayne, plus we don't really want python scopes on the phone
[15:09] <cwayne> mhr3_: ah, right
[15:09] <cwayne> too resource intensive?
[15:09] <mhr3_> yep
[15:09] <cwayne> makes sense :)
[15:11] <mhr3_> cwayne, there are still some fixes that didn't land for the whole scope in /custom to fully work, with current image you can only add a scope there and create a separate dash page for it
[15:11] <mhr3_> integrating with existing scopes needs a few more branches to land
[15:12] <mhr3_> cwayne, so if you're trying something specific just ask and i can tell you whether you can even expect it to work at this very moment
[16:05] <Saviq> kgunn, re: scope disable/enable - I can't reply on the document, but it (almost) works already
[16:05] <Saviq> kgunn, the preview is there, for some reason if you click "Disable" it doesn't work unfortunately
[16:06] <kgunn> :))
[16:07] <cwayne> it adds the scope to the disabled list in gsettings
[16:07] <cwayne> it just doesnt change the button
[16:10] <Saviq> cwayne, indeed, kgunn ↑
[16:10] <Saviq> cwayne, I wonder why, if it sent an updated preview (seems that's what happens on the desktop) it should Just Work™ on unity8
[16:12] <kgunn> ah...thanks guys
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[16:38] <mzanetti> greyback: time for an easy one? https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/launcher-click-icon/+merge/184614
[16:38] <greyback> mzanetti: yeah sure
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[19:06] <cwayne> mzanetti: ping
[19:40] <CallMeJake> Hey folks, long-winded unity-greeter question, short version, I'd like to put 'indicator-weather' on my unity-login screen; and I think bug 1155157 "Allow custom indicators" is related
[19:40] <ubot5> bug 1155157 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Raring) "[FFe] Allow custom indicators" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1155157
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[20:26] <karni> Hi guys! Question here. Is it possible that a qml file that I'm adding in Qt Creator for some reason isn't getting pushed to the phone when I do ./run_on_device, so the runtime doesn't see that file and report "foo.qml is not a type"?
[20:30] <karni> yep.. I just confirmed they files are not pushed
[20:33] <dandrader> karni, if it's a new file, you have to "bzr add" it
[20:34] <karni> dandrader: yes, learned that the hard way :) thanks
[20:34] <karni> I eventually had a look at run_on_device and realized I had to bzr add
[20:34] <dandrader> it happened the same to me a while ago :)
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[21:38] <davmor2> guys I have a weird issue on saucy,  I install a new app the icon appears in the launcher but when you click on it nothing happens, if I open the dash it works fine from there.
[21:38] <davmor2> this is on unity7
[21:39] <davmor2> oh and for clarity it is the commercial apps that I'm testing