[00:01] <wilee-nilee> Henix_Aurorus, You are using a wubi install?
[00:01] <Henix_Aurorus> Yes
[00:01] <L-sama> wanna help me?
[00:01] <L-sama> I have networking issues
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> Henix_Aurorus, You can't run that outside of windows it is just a folder in it.
[00:02] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, wait, if he's using wubi, is that even going to be able to use the drivers?
[00:02] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, won't Windows hang on to those?
[00:02] <chocolatemousse> I thought this was another machine
[00:02] <chocolatemousse> wubi is a VM, no?
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> no
[00:03] <Henix_Aurorus> I'm transferring files between  OSes actually
[00:03] <Henix_Aurorus> Via usb drive
[00:03] <Henix_Aurorus> Which both can access
[00:03] <Henix_Aurorus> Also
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> Henix_Aurorus, You have to have ubuntu in a partitioned install, wubi is just a file in windows.
[00:03] <Henix_Aurorus> Http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32386227/dpkg-lstring.txt
[00:04] <raub> If we are talking about wireless card and drivers, my RTL8188CE-based Realtek keeps disconnecting me
[00:04] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, Henix_Aurorus yeah it looks like its just an installer http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-with-windows
[00:05] <chocolatemousse> i thought it was a packaged VM image as well
[00:05] <Henix_Aurorus> Wilee-nilee: can't, hard drive has a abd sector
[00:05] <Henix_Aurorus> So I can't resize partitions or make new ones
[00:06] <lovelymortal> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[00:06] <lovelymortal> keep it on hand
[00:06] <Henix_Aurorus> So wubi is my only option without completely wiping he hard drive
[00:06] <MangaKaDenza> HALP
[00:06] <MangaKaDenza> I tried mah drive with the ubunt
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> Henix_Aurorus, Just saying that you have to have windows to run wubi, which by the way is problematic, not really supported anymore, and has like one user at the ubuntu forum who can really help you. YOur explanation why makes no sence.
[00:06] <MangaKaDenza> but it says...
[00:06] <MangaKaDenza> bootmngr not found
[00:07] <MangaKaDenza> where do I aquire bootmngr ???
[00:07] <MangaKaDenza> plz halp
[00:07] <lovelymortal> mangakadenza try to install it again
[00:07] <Henix_Aurorus> Wilee-nilee: simply put, nothing will resize the partition to make room for a new one becuase of the bad sector
[00:08] <MangaKaDenza> ?
[00:08] <MangaKaDenza> I downloaded it to my thumbdriv
[00:08] <usr13> Henix_Aurorus: How about installing another Hard Drive?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> MangaKaDenza, use this to run the bootinfo summary so we can see what is up post the url generated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:08] <MangaKaDenza> isn't that enough?
[00:08] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, wilee-nilee are you running Windows and Ubuntu simultaneiously?
[00:08] <Henix_Aurorus> Not within my budget
[00:08] <Henix_Aurorus> Unforutnately
[00:08] <Henix_Aurorus> Also, no
[00:08] <duoi> MangaKaDenza: reinstall it and make sure you check the option for GRUB
[00:09] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, I think he needs working wireless before he can worry about much else
[00:09] <chocolatemousse> He's on IRC right now with Windows
[00:09] <chocolatemousse> If I'm right
[00:09] <Henix_Aurorus> And one moment I need to restart androirc
[00:09] <chocolatemousse> ok no he's on Android IRC
[00:09] <lovelymortal> mangakadenza  Did you make a live usb or did you just copy the iso to the thumbdrive
[00:10] <MangaKaDenza> yes
[00:10] <MangaKaDenza> I did that
[00:10] <MangaKaDenza> copy 2 thumb
[00:10] <MangaKaDenza> y?
[00:10] <raub> so the rtl8188ce uses the rtl8192ce module. Interesting...
[00:10] <lone> Can I play Call Of DutY:Modern Warfare on Ubuntu anyway?pls
[00:10] <kostkon> !wine | lone
[00:11] <lovelymortal> Mangakadenza   http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:11] <Henix_Aurorus> Sory about that
[00:11] <nnominatus> tes
[00:11] <Henix_Aurorus> Androirc gets a bit finicky in big channels like this
[00:11] <Henix_Aurorus> And for the record I'm using my tablet for IRC
[00:12] <lovelymortal> Mangakadenza follow the guide from the link i posted
[00:12] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, You should ask what Dr_Willis uses, he does IRC and doesn't seem to have much of a problem
[00:12] <lovelymortal> I used Pidgin
[00:12] <chocolatemousse> lovelymortal, Pidgin doesn't exist on Android?
[00:13] <Henix_Aurorus> Nah, I think it's just memory restrictions or something
[00:13] <lovelymortal> Im sorry. I just saw that it was for android...
[00:13] <Henix_Aurorus> It works fine on other channels, it's the really big ones that are the problem
[00:13] <Henix_Aurorus> This is an older device
[00:13] <kostkon> Henix_Aurorus, try andChat
[00:14] <Henix_Aurorus> HP TouchPad, probably 3-4 years old
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> I use andchat on Android for my main irc client
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> I use my phone or tablet (hot spotted to the phone) and a bluetooth keyboard most of the time.
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> If i want to get fancy - i set up ZNC on the home pc. and use it as a bouncer for the phone
[00:16] <nnominatus> anyone have an idea why my ubuntu 12 cant seem to find my second monitor?
[00:16] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus: you have to tell it to use it.
[00:16] <nnominatus> i told it to detect
[00:16] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus: if you're using nvidia, you're lucky, its easy, if not you have to figure out how to get X to configure it
[00:16] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus: use the nvidia-x-settings tool if you do have nvidia
[00:16] <MangaKaDenza> uh...
[00:17] <MangaKaDenza> anything I don't have to install?
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> act6ually with my nvidia systems. I plug in the 2nd monitor and if using the nvidia drivers - it auto-enables twinview and activetes the monitor
[00:17] <nnominatus> chocolatemousse thankfully i have nvidia ill check it out
[00:17] <MangaKaDenza> like, just download and run?
[00:17] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, nice, doesn't do that for me.
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> could be both of mine are on HDMI
[00:17] <lovelymortal> Mangakadenza follow the guide www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windowswww.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:17] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, ah, yeah HDMI is considerably smarter than VGA, which is what I use
[00:18] <lovelymortal> Mangakadenza you will need to install it and run the program then you will be able to boot from the usb
[00:18] <MangaKaDenza> ;_;
[00:18] <MangaKaDenza> I cant "install" anything per se
[00:18] <MangaKaDenza> my parents won't give me admin access
[00:18] <Plasmastar> lol...
[00:18] <lovelymortal> Mangakadenza I understand.
[00:19] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus: well if your ndiswrapper is installed, ndiswrapper should just work, I was doing some reading and there may be some problems with no Windows XP versions of drivers and NDISwrapper, but that was back in 2009, not sure how things have chaged.
[00:19] <chocolatemousse> changed*
[00:19] <chocolatemousse> i.e. Windows Vista versions of drivers may have issues with NDISwrapper
[00:20] <MangaKaDenza> so, what should I do lovelymortal ?
[00:20] <lovelymortal> Mangakadenza Do you have friends with admin access to a windows or linux based pc?
[00:20] <MangaKaDenza> uh, I think so
[00:20] <MangaKaDenza> yeah
[00:20] <MangaKaDenza> Oh I get it
[00:20] <Henix_Aurorus> I'll try instaling dkms in a moment
[00:20] <MangaKaDenza> ask them to install it
[00:20] <Henix_Aurorus> See if that does anything
[00:21] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, although if you got the output in step #3 that "driver installed", then that's probably a non-issue
[00:21] <lovelymortal> Mangakadenza yes ask them to follow the guide. I would then get it on a usb and when you use your parents computer just use the "Try It Out" option. Once you get a feel for what you like I would look into a program called......      Remastersys
[00:21] <Henix_Aurorus> Gonna tyry anyway
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> You can do a 'full' install to usb flash drives. :) if the pc can boot from them.
[00:22] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, also it could simply be that command is no longer valid
[00:22] <CBRbill> where is brent
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> actually witgh a rooted android phone or tablet. you can boot a pc from the phone with the right app. ;)
[00:22] <nnominatus> chocolatemousse know where I have to save this X config file in ubuntu 12?
[00:22] <chocolatemousse> I just downloaded ndiswrapper myself and I see there is no kernel module for ndiswrapper
[00:23] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:23] <raub> Which is a better wireless card under ubuntu 13.04: intel 512AN (5100) or intel 533AN (5300)?
[00:23] <pfifo> hello all
[00:23] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus, sad that I know by heart ;)
[00:23] <Henix_Aurorus> ...don't have dkms.
[00:23] <Henix_Aurorus> Dammit, I really hate OS juggling.
[00:23] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus: your nvidia utility should just be able to save to your xorg.conf
[00:23] <lovelymortal> Mangakadenza If you put enough enough research into ubuntu software and find out what you want to have then get the live usb to have the programs and settings that you like.... You can use Remastersys to creat an iso, Mount that iso to a usb and it will boot with your setting/passwords/username/wallpaper...etc
[00:23] <nnominatus> chocolatemousse i did a quick google and that didn't come up lol. Must have done this a signifcant amount of times
[00:24] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, try running sudo loadndisdriver
[00:24] <lovelymortal> @Henix_Aurorus get virtualbox
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> Heh - gotta love it when an Xorg log file.. sucks down 40gb.. ;()
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> wondered where all my hd space went.
[00:25] <Henix_Aurorus> Nothing :|
[00:25] <helpmeplease> does anyone how to configure wine?
[00:25] <CBRbill> what do you need help with on wine
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> they really really should do some service/tool to keep that from happening.
[00:25] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus: its one of the more poorly documented factoids by Google
[00:25] <Henix_Aurorus> It didn't complain at least
[00:25] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus: google is pretty spectacularly bad at some stuff ;)
[00:25] <Henix_Aurorus> But it didn't appear to do anything either
[00:26] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, thats genius, a utility to keep you from running out of space, ill take 3 of them please
[00:26] <CBRbill> helpmeplease: what do you need help with about the config. just msg it in the channel
[00:26] <raub> Dr_Willis: I tell logrotate to keep them nice and gzipped and delete as needed
[00:26] <CBRbill> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izkXuuCGKSA wow.. massive zit
[00:26] <nnominatus> chocolatemousse so the nvidia X server refuses to save to that location im going to manually put it there and hope i dont break something
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  more of a utilty to see you are getting a stupidly massive log file.. it  was 41gb in size.
[00:26] <helpmeplease> CBR bill i just am unsure how to configure wine
[00:27] <abd-allah> can i backup all my ubuntu apps and updates?
[00:27] <CBRbill> what specifically are you stuck on?
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> raub:  i dont even really want them at all. ;)
[00:27] <abd-allah> pls
[00:27] <helpmeplease> all of it lol
[00:27] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, after you run that, have you tried just skipping the sudo modprobe ndisdriver command?
[00:27] <chocolatemousse> what'st he output of iwconfig?
[00:27] <raub> Dr_Willis: you now broke their little hearts ;)
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  wine windowsapp.exe   and it should work. ;)
[00:27] <Henix_Aurorus> Lo no wireless extensions
[00:27] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus: hmm
[00:27] <mrdeb> hi
[00:27] <helpmeplease> huh DR?
[00:28] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus: run ll /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:28] <mrdeb> when is ubuntu switching from wlan0/.eth0
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> raub:  ;) yep.  id just cleaned out my hd  and had like 10 gb free a while ago. *like 2 hrs* came back.. hd was full again.
[00:28] <helpmeplease> you have to configure it?
[00:28] <abd-allah> @Dr_Willis pls
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  whats to configure.. I rarely need to mess with anything
[00:28] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus, also try running gksu nvidia-x-settings
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  wine auto configures for me for the most part. unless theres a specific problem with a specific app  you want to tell us about
[00:28] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, ll, cool trick
[00:28] <chocolatemousse> It might be able to write then ;)
[00:28] <helpmeplease> well do i have to put the application it is windows based into the applications tab
[00:28] <nnominatus> chocolatemousse its probably because im not logged in as the admin atm i suspect
[00:28] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: alias for ls -la
[00:29] <helpmeplease> that is
[00:29] <abd-allah> how to take snapshot on ubuntu?
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  you mean you just want a ICON to launch a wine app?
[00:29] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: I suggest learning about aliases ;)
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  thats not really 'configuring wine'
[00:29] <kostkon> helpmeplease, just run its installer and wine will do the rest
[00:29] <helpmeplease> o okay
[00:29] <helpmeplease> so all i have to do is run the other program and it will work?
[00:29] <kostkon> helpmeplease, does it come as a setup.exe
[00:29] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, i know about aliases, just dont know them
[00:29] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: then I suggest reading your .bash_rc
[00:29] <nnominatus> chocolatemousse the old copy and restart had a very interesting effect
[00:29] <chocolatemousse> less ~/.bash_rc
[00:29] <chocolatemousse> or somesuch
[00:30] <Henix_Aurorus> Brb
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:    wine thewindowssetup.exe
[00:30] <helpmeplease> is wine  winetricks?
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  and it should work for most apps
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> winetricks is a specific tool to setup some things in wine.
[00:30] <abd-allah> hey?
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> !screenshot | abd-allah
[00:31] <helpmeplease> here i took a screen shot
[00:31] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, not much there, and subject to change
[00:31] <abd-allah> thanks
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  a screen shot of what? You havent really given us a problem or any details
[00:31] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: no, its a user configuration file, not really subject to change
[00:31] <kostkon> helpmeplease, wine installs the app in a pseudo windows fs in ~/.wine, then it extracts the icon file from the .exe files and creates a desktop launcher/shortcut out of them for you
[00:31] <abd-allah> can i backup my whole ubuntu system with apps and updates.?
[00:31] <chocolatemousse> pfifo, if ll isn't in there, then its in a bashrc somewhere
[00:31] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, changing users is enough to make all your aliases change
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> abd-allah:  you can 'clone' a ubuntu install - correct.
[00:32] <Henix_Aurorus> Back, I guess
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> !backup
[00:32] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: not system level ones
[00:32] <L-sama> hello, I need help for networking with ubuntu and windows
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> !samba | L-sama
[00:32] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: anyways you aren't going to learn them till you use them
[00:32] <helpmeplease> http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&id=4tHclKSplaGqlKSc36jSmunS3A
[00:32] <abd-allah> Dr_Willis:how to clone?
[00:33] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, ll is a good one, about the only one ill use from my bashrc
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> abd-allah:  seen the urls the bot gave above. I rarely bother with cloning a full install.
[00:33] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: I learn by (attempting) to help out here, and fixing/using quirks on my system
[00:33] <L-sama> DrWillis, I already have acces to the workgroup and the computers, however I am unable to access their shared drives
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> abd-allah:  clonezilla can do it however.
[00:33] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, same here
[00:33] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: you may find you want to alias some complex command in future
[00:33] <IDWMaster> Hi
[00:33] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: good thing to keep tabs on
[00:33] <nnominatus> chocolatemousse gksu ran but seemingly did nothing i amnow getting a white screen that i can change settings for but cannot interact with.
[00:33] <IDWMaster> Ubuntu download site is really slow today, is there an alternate mirror that can be used?
[00:33] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus: screenie?
[00:34] <IDWMaster> BitTorrent is blocked in my country (illegal) so I can't use that as a download mechanism.
[00:34] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus, what you said didn't make much sense
[00:34] <pfifo> IDWMaster, yes there are hundreds of mirrors
[00:34] <helpmeplease> there are only three wine applications wine tricks wine configuration and win unstall
[00:34] <beejun> IDWMaster:  what country?
[00:34] <Henix_Aurorus> IDWMaster: technically BitTorrent isn't illegal, it's what it's commonly used for that is
[00:34] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: or alternatively you may want to remember complex commands by writing them down somewhere, might as well put them in a location e.g. as an alias
[00:35] <L-sama> Dr_Willis , I already have acces to the workgroup and the computers, however I am unable to access their shared drives
[00:35] <pfifo> IDWMaster, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[00:35] <IDWMaster> Henix_Aurorus: It's blocked by my ISP anyways; so still can't use BitTorrent
[00:35] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: or if aliases really aren't your thing you can just do like I do and write one-liners into ~/bin, and ~/bin to path
[00:35] <IDWMaster> Thanks pfifo
[00:35] <helpmeplease> does wine only work with apps?
[00:35] <nnominatus> chocolatemousse yeah so when i copied xorg.conf to /etc/X11/ and restarted the screen showed the background then went white.
[00:35] <helpmeplease> or will it work with programs too?
[00:35] <chocolatemousse> e.g. I run 'upgradesys' instead of the very verbose 'sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get update'
[00:36] <IDWMaster> helpmeplease: What's the difference?
[00:36] <Adam-85> i have question about uuid?
[00:36] <helpmeplease> idw what do you mean?
[00:36] <helpmeplease> o i am stupid lol
[00:36] <IDWMaster> OK
[00:36] <Adam-85> and this question is how to change my uuid and update it in fstab
[00:36] <IDWMaster> Download done, thanks
[00:36] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus: I'd suggest making the nvidia-x-settings panel work, not editing it by hand. Unless you know what you're doing its usually a recipe for problems.
[00:36] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, I have never made my own alias, but I like that ll, its so logical, I should drop an alis in for my common typo, "ls-la" to "ls -la"
[00:37] <helpmeplease> it will only allow me to download certain programs?
[00:37] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: why not?
[00:37] <chocolatemousse> alias ll='ls -la'
[00:37] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, you should use dist-upgrade
[00:37] <IDWMaster> helpmeplease: No, you can use any Windows app that you want
[00:37] <chocolatemousse> takes 5 secs to write
[00:37] <nnominatus> chocolatemousse yeah it just told me to set the second screen to relative position
[00:37] <IDWMaster> helpmeplease: As long as all the required dlls are there (emulated)
[00:37] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: doesn't that upgrade the system though? i.e. to a new system?
[00:37] <helpmeplease> it is not giving me that option ?
[00:37] <IDWMaster> helpmeplease: What do you mean?
[00:37] <chocolatemousse> and it still requires typing a lot of apt-get garbage
[00:38] <IDWMaster> helpmeplease: To run a Windows executable, simply type
[00:38] <IDWMaster> wine program.exe
[00:38] <IDWMaster> where program is the name of the program you want to run
[00:38] <IDWMaster> at a terminal
[00:38] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, no, dist-upgrade will install new packages that are required for updated packages, upgrade will hold back packages.
[00:38] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, how are you doing? I haven't seen anything from you in a while
[00:38] <nnominatus> chocolatemousse thats definitely good advice i have a currently hacked together network connection that I will never be able to debug lol
[00:38] <helpmeplease> so for example wine manycam win program.exe?
[00:39] <Henix_Aurorus> Same deal
[00:39] <Henix_Aurorus> Still a nonfunctional network cars
[00:39] <IDWMaster> helpmeplease: For example: wine manycam.exe
[00:39] <helpmeplease> o lol
[00:39] <IDWMaster> in the directory where manycam.exe resides
[00:39] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: hmm, I'll change my upgrade sys alias/script then
[00:40] <sam113101> guys, is there a way to grep some file but instead of printing only the lines that contain the string, also print the lines around them? say the 2 lines above and under
[00:40] <helpmeplease> so if i know there is a dll version of manycam what would i type in terminal to install it?
[00:40] <IDWMaster> I'm in the US by the way; a country that doesn't value Internet freedom very much these days. If Comcast catches you using BitTorrent (even for legal purposes) they will cut off your connection.
[00:40] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: although I'm still hesitant to actually do that because not dist-upgrading has saved my @ss before when the system wanted to upgrade to an ubuntu version that I had a better non-ubuntu version installed
[00:40] <IDWMaster> helpmeplease: dlls are libraries, not executable programs (usually). You shouldn't need to manually "run" a DLL
[00:40] <Johnny_Linux> IDWMaster  go with dls then
[00:40] <Henix_Aurorus> IDWMaster: never had that issue
[00:40] <bogen_> hello everyone
[00:40] <helpmeplease> one second
[00:41] <Johnny_Linux> scamcast is junk anyway
[00:41] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: one of those 'less is more' moments ;)
[00:41] <IDWMaster> Comcast is the only ISP available in my area
[00:41] <Henix_Aurorus> Use FIOS, they don't do it
[00:41] <Henix_Aurorus> ...oh
[00:41] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, I like to read the entire list of stuff thats being upgraded/installed, usually save it in a log too so I can reference it later when stuff breaks
[00:41] <Johnny_Linux> im sure your phone company has dsl if you have cable in your area
[00:41] <helpmeplease> it is an mce file?
[00:41] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: good idea! Now that I could definitely add to my upgradesys script
[00:42] <IDWMaster> Johnny_Linux: Such bad DSL it doesn't work for any more than 5 minutes at a time
[00:42] <chocolatemousse> Right now I think it trys to e-mail them to a non-existent system address.
[00:42] <IDWMaster> Johnny_Linux: Worse than old-fashined dial-up
[00:42] <IDWMaster> *fashioned
[00:42] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, hrm, did you try running iwconfig?
[00:42] <Henix_Aurorus> Yes
[00:42] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, say anything about any network devices?
[00:42] <Johnny_Linux> interesting, i have prolly the best dls in the country, never drops, has higher than priced speed
[00:42] <Henix_Aurorus> Nope
[00:43] <IDWMaster> Johnny_Linux: CenturyLink (formerly Qwest) is the only one in my area; really terrible service. Although I've heard it's better in a lot of other areas.
[00:43] <helpmeplease> idw i typed in winemanycam.exe and it says command not found?
[00:43] <Henix_Aurorus> Also one moment please
[00:43] <Johnny_Linux> IDWMaster  maybe try your own router, the oem ones have alot of ware thats garbage
[00:43] <IDWMaster> helpmeplease: You need a space
[00:43] <IDWMaster> wine manycam.exe
[00:44] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, sorry, I don't think I can help you further then. If A) NDISwrapper doesn't work B) try to find an open source driver or C) use a wifi usb or wired ethernet
[00:44] <helpmeplease> o okay
[00:44] <Johnny_Linux> IDWMaster  i have century link, have had them 8 yrs, zero problems
[00:44] <helpmeplease> i just downloaded the file and it says cannot fine L"C:
[00:44] <Johnny_Linux> but i also use a D-Link router
[00:44] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus: still looking up one other command I can thing of just incase iwconfig is broken
[00:44] <mrdeb> are drivers ever dropped from kernel
[00:45] <IDWMaster> Johnny_Linux: In my area; they have horrible service. Think it's because the phone lines are really old or something. Either way; it's not possible to try and do online business with their service in my particular area.
[00:45] <Johnny_Linux> could be
[00:45] <helpmeplease> wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\manycam.exe"
[00:45] <IDWMaster> Johnny_Linux: I can download 100MBPS with Comcast's new business fiber plan
[00:45] <Johnny_Linux> scamcast is too pc
[00:45] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, i like 'sudo rfkill'
[00:45] <mrdeb> IDWMaster: 100mb?
[00:45] <Henix_Aurorus> Alright, back
[00:45] <IDWMaster> Henix_Aurorus: Yes
[00:45] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, ifconfig
[00:45] <IDWMaster> Meant 100mb
[00:46] <abd-allah> how to securely browse internet on ubuntu?
[00:46] <Henix_Aurorus> Well
[00:46] <abd-allah> ..
[00:46] <mrdeb> IDWMaster: how fast per second really
[00:46] <IDWMaster> abd-allah: The web itself isn't secure. You can't.
[00:46] <Henix_Aurorus> It's not blank likeiwconfig
[00:46] <jpds> abd-allah: Use HTTPS.
[00:46] <abd-allah> oh GoD 100mbps.
[00:47] <IDWMaster> HTTPS has been cracked
[00:47] <mrdeb> fastest internet i have used ever was 4mb per second dl
[00:47] <jpds> IDWMaster: By the government, not criminals.
[00:47] <Henix_Aurorus> ...not that I understand a thing it says.
[00:47] <chocolatemousse> abd-allah: https -> #internet -> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security
[00:47] <IDWMaster> jpds: Same thing
[00:47] <Johnny_Linux> lol, they are criminals
[00:47] <mrdeb> jpds: what is difference
[00:47] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus: are there any "eth1"s?
[00:47] <abd-allah> i'll be pretty happy if i get 512kbps.
[00:47] <pfifo> abd-allah, chromium has an incognito mode for added privacy
[00:47] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus: ifconfig | grep -i eth1
[00:47] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus: ifconfig | grep -i eth3
[00:47] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus: ifconfig | grep -i wlan
[00:47] <helpmeplease> how would i do the command to install many cam after i have downloaded it?
[00:48] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus: ifconfig | grep -i eth
[00:48] <mrdeb> pfifo: waht is only wife-watchign mode, not realy privacy
[00:48] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, always gonna have the 'lo' interface, but that's not what you want
[00:48] <mrdeb> chocolatemousse: what is lo interface
[00:48] <Adam-85> Qquestion is: how to change my uuid and update it in fstab and grub ?
[00:48] <chocolatemousse> mrdeb, loopback
[00:49] <chocolatemousse> 127.0.0.1
[00:49] <Henix_Aurorus> Nothing, nothing, nothing, and nothing
[00:49] <mrdeb> chocolatemousse: what is loopback and what for
[00:49] <chocolatemousse> mrdeb: saying hi to yourself
[00:49] <helpmeplease> how would i install the file that says install.log?
[00:49] <mrdeb> y
[00:49] <mrdeb> i dont understand
[00:49] <OerHeks> Henix_Aurorus, are you still trying wireless drivers in a Wubi install ?
[00:49] <pfifo> Adam-85, format the partition and use 'sudo blkid' to find the new UUID
[00:49] <chocolatemousse> mrdeb: commonly used to e.g. browse a local webserver
[00:49] <Henix_Aurorus> Yes
[00:49] <chocolatemousse> mrdeb: #webserver
[00:49] <Henix_Aurorus> Because I have no other options
[00:50] <mrdeb> i dont understand
[00:50] <mrdeb> you mean router settings or what
[00:50] <chocolatemousse> OerHeks: he can't get the ndiswrapper to modload
[00:50] <chocolatemousse> I think his driver is recognized though
[00:50] <OerHeks> Henix_Aurorus, no need to, your guest OS handles wifi, and ports it as a wired connection afaik
[00:50] <Henix_Aurorus> ...
[00:51] <chocolatemousse> OerHeks: he's got common and utils installed, but no ndiswrapper kernel modules are in those packages
[00:51] <chocolatemousse> OerHeks: I don't think you understand what Wubi is
[00:51] <chocolatemousse> OerHeks: hes booted into Ubuntu
[00:51] <chocolatemousse> OerHeks: he's not running Windows underneath
[00:51] <Henix_Aurorus> Basically it modifies Windows' bootloader
[00:51] <bing0719> it is boot in windows
[00:51] <Adam-85> pfifo:  but i have my data at this partation
[00:51] <helpmeplease> can some one help me real quick? i just need to know who to install a file in terminal
[00:51] <manhunter> What is the shortcut key to get the desktop in gnome3 classic?
[00:52] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, that's not a question
[00:52] <Henix_Aurorus> It's not actually running Windows alongside, which would melt my computer anyway
[00:52] <chocolatemousse> !ask | helpmeplease
[00:52] <helpmeplease> choco i did ask the question all in one line twice!
[00:52] <Henix_Aurorus> Also, sudo dpkg --h
[00:53] <Henix_Aurorus> That will give you a basic idea of how to install stuff
[00:53] <Jaylan> Hey guys, I am have been working an awesome renmote bukldbox someone donated, but for some reaqson znc is not working. I? used port 6060, hr forwarded it, but no go
[00:53] <pfifo> Adam-85, i dont knowc of a way to change the UUID without formatting, tune2fs doesnt support it, it seems like a useless thing todo anyway unless you in the 0.0000001% that has a UUID collision
[00:53] <helpmeplease> how do i install a file in terminal the file name is install.log
[00:53] <beejun> Hi, I have another distro on my laptop but want to dual boot with ubuntu, is there a dualbooting option in the installation of Ubuntu?
[00:53] <dcope> hey all, i just rebooted my ubu vps and now the hostname is 'localhost' how can  i fix this?
[00:53] <emmet> where is the LXDE startup file?\
[00:53] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, wait may have found something
[00:54] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, did you say you had ndiswrapper-dkms installed?
[00:54] <honestly> dcope: what does cat /etc/hostname say
[00:54] <mrdeb> emmet: .xinitrc
[00:54] <Henix_Aurorus> Tried to, didn't work
[00:54] <mrdeb> EmLeX_: .config/openbox/autostart
[00:54] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, it looks like you need to build the ndiswrapper kernel module yourself
[00:54] <mrdeb> emmet
[00:54] <Henix_Aurorus> Don't have dkms (not to be confused with ndiswrapper-dkms) installed
[00:54] <Cale__> where am i
[00:54] <helpmeplease> jamie@ubuntu:~$ wine manycam.exe wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\manycam.exe" jamie@ubuntu:~$ sudo install install.log [sudo] password for jamie:  install: missing destination file operand after `install.log' Try `install --help' for more information. jamie@ubuntu:~$
[00:54] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, yeah =/
[00:54] <helpmeplease> why wont that work?
[00:54] <dcope> honestly: it's empty
[00:54] <Cale__> what is this
[00:54] <emmet> Where is the lxde Startup file located at?
[00:55] <Jaylan> Im wondering if maybe iptables is blocking it, but its ubuntu, no iptables de default
[00:55] <honestly> dcope: well, there's your problem then
[00:55] <Jaylan> just hardware router
[00:55] <Henix_Aurorus> And I also don't know how to build modules
[00:55] <LeZimbabweXD> Bazooper!
[00:55] <Cale__> guys get out they're doing IMPORTANT THINGS HERE
[00:55] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, you need dkms, ndiswrapper-dkms, and ndiswrapper-source, as well as build-essentilal and apt-get build-deps ndiswrapper-dkms ndiswrapper-source
[00:55] <nisstyre> Henix_Aurorus: usually they come with makefiles
[00:55] <pfifo> helpmeplease, manycam doesnt work with wine
[00:55] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, you are going to want to find a way of using an ubuntu terminal to get that stuff
[00:55] <Cale__> calk go away
[00:55] <nisstyre> so it's not that different from building any software that uses make
[00:55] <Jaylan> grea hye had the wrong pront, gotta love albino blind guys
[00:55] <dcope> honestly: i have empty /etc/hostname on my other vps and they still have a non localhost name
[00:55] <emmet> Where is the lxde Startup file located at?
[00:55] <helpmeplease> really!!!
[00:55] <chocolatemousse> You're going to be here a while grabbing packages otherwise
[00:56] <helpmeplease> do you know of a program like many cam that will?
[00:56] <dcope> honestly: they have hostnames like 'li12-345'
[00:56] <pfifo> helpmeplease, yes really, windows drivers "such as a virtual webcam" do not work with the linux kernel
[00:56] <chocolatemousse> nisstyre: not helpfull, ndiswrapper is a kernel 'mediator' it doesn't have an actuall driver, and the kernel modules are missing from the current packages
[00:56] <honestly> dcope: you'll have to ask your vps provider
[00:56] <Henix_Aurorus> ...I'll ask my father if he has a spare network cable tomorrow. I can't do this tonight, unfortunately.
[00:56] <helpmeplease> pfifo do you know of a webcam application like many cam that will work with linux?
[00:56] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, sounds like the sensible plan
[00:56] <nisstyre> chocolatemousse: my bad I didn't realize he was talking about ndiswrapper
[00:58] <Henix_Aurorus> I'll make a note of hat and sign off before my tablet dies
[00:58] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, cya tomorrow
[00:58] <pfifo> helpmeplease, webcamstudio
[00:58] <Henix_Aurorus> But I appreciate the help
[00:58] <Henix_Aurorus> :)
[00:58] <Henix_Aurorus> Cya
[00:58] <helpmeplease> i saw that when i looked it up i guess i will try it
[00:58] <Henix_Aurorus> ...as soon as I find the quit button.
[00:58] <helpmeplease> do you know the command to install it in terminal?
[00:58] <Cale__> I AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSF
[00:59] <Cale__> I AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSFORM OF YOU LIFE 4EVER TO ME VAMPIREI AM VAMPYRE COME TO ME 4 TRANSF
[00:59] <helpmeplease> kick cale....
[00:59] <helpmeplease> spammer..
[00:59] <Myconix> lol
[00:59] <chocolatemousse> ops?
[00:59] <pfifo> i am vampiyre too
[00:59] <nespik> o.o
[00:59] <Cale__> WE ARE VAMPIRE U CANNOT STOP
[00:59] <nnominatus> chocolatemousse thanks alot for your help i got it to work with gksu nvidia-settings
[00:59] <chocolatemousse> nnominatus, great :)
[00:59] <Myconix> well, that was fun
[01:00] <helpmeplease> :P
[01:00] <Myconix> i may or may not have sent them here
[01:00] <helpmeplease> pfifo do you have to have the file on your computer to install through terminal or will it work still if it is in the ubuntu software center?
[01:01] <pfifo> helpmeplease, i dont know, never used it, just know of it
[01:01] <helpmeplease> o okay:P
[01:03] <helpmeplease> pfifo the reason i need a program like manycam is because i was infected with a virus that has left my webcam stuck upside down, so that is what i am trying to fix
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> Hmm... that would be a rather pointless virus..
[01:03] <pfifo> helpmeplease, you dont have a virus
[01:04] <chocolatemousse> XDXD
[01:04]  * pfifo high fives Dr_Willis 
[01:04]  * chocolatemousse can't stop cracking up
[01:04] <helpmeplease> pfifo no i got rid of it it did more than just that my laptop would not even power up
[01:04] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, same here
[01:04] <helpmeplease> it complete destroyed windows i had to install a hacked version of that
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> I think theres a lot of confused statementes going on..
[01:05] <somsip>  helpmeplease you're not being very safe at all really are you...
[01:05] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, are you sure the virus didn't do that for you already X'D
[01:05] <Johnny_Linux> he prolly did it himself
[01:05] <helpmeplease> wow...
[01:05]  * OerHeks now loves manycam.exe 
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> and lets try to drag this back to the part thats Ubuntu-support related
[01:06] <pfifo> helpmeplease, well your flipped webcam in linux isnt cause of a windows virus
[01:06] <helpmeplease> then what would be the cause of it
[01:06] <helpmeplease> the webcam file was altered
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> driver/bios is telling the system the wrong way is up
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> what 'webcam file was altereed' ?
[01:07] <pfifo> helpmeplease, are you sure your camera isnt upside down?
[01:07] <helpmeplease> pfifo it is a bulit in webcam on a laptop yes i am sure
[01:07] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, as a last resort you could always turn your computer 'upside down' :P
[01:07] <helpmeplease> lots of smart asses in here
[01:07] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, sorry ;)
[01:08] <helpmeplease> shut up homo
[01:08] <chocolatemousse> !language | helpmeplease
[01:08]  * Dr_Willis notices that 'cheese' has a FLIP effect
[01:08] <helpmeplease> why choco i will get banned lol
[01:09] <chocolatemousse> !tos | helpmeplease
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  yes.. it can happen
[01:09] <chocolatemousse> yeah, where is the tos factoid...
[01:09] <helpmeplease> big deal that is what vpns and proxies are for which i have tons of in windows
[01:09] <chocolatemousse> !guidelines
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  and shall we try to Drag this back to the part thats actually ubuntu support?
[01:09] <chocolatemousse> !guidelines | helpmeplease
[01:09] <OerHeks> I think wubi.exe can cause this flipping webcam.
[01:10] <pfifo> helpmeplease, seems there are lots of different fixes for this problem depending on your camera and laptop... seems the manufacturers accidentally install them upside down and just fix it in the windows drivers
[01:10] <chocolatemousse> pfifo, good point, and linux is just doing what's 'correct'
[01:10] <helpmeplease> Dr_Willis should i call Ubuntu and tell them that some of the people that are in here are smart asses and just make fun of people?
[01:10] <helpmeplease> thank you pfifo
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  i suggest you focus on the support topic.
[01:11] <helpmeplease> yea cause you know i am right....
[01:11] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, go ahead, but I suggest you stick to the support topic, as Dr_Willis suggested
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  your claims about windows viruses affecting teh cam in linux. are basically invalid.
[01:12] <helpmeplease> okay one more thing how is you making fun of me support topic related?
[01:12] <OerHeks> google ubuntu 13.04 wubi webcam upside down = ASUS laptop maybe?
[01:12]  * Dr_Willis closes the ticket
[01:12] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, see above; the claims are are (ridiculously) invalid, we aren't making fun of you. :)
[01:13] <helpmeplease> whatever....
[01:14] <helpmeplease> http://superuser.com/questions/479058/how-to-flip-video-feed-thats-presented-upside-down
[01:14] <helpmeplease> read under things i have tried...
[01:15] <pfifo> helpmeplease, are you trying to fix the picture in ubuntu, or in windows?
[01:15] <helpmeplease> both it is stuck upside down in both ubuntu and windows
[01:15] <Johnny_Linux> do you hve jupiter installed ?
[01:16] <adzy> hi. hoping someone here can help me out with a strange problem. i'm using smartd to monitor the smart status of my disks (zfs file server) and send out an email in the event of an error. if i run "smartctl -a -d sat /dev/sda >> msg" in terminal, it works as expected. but if smartd runs a sh script containing the exact same line, the body of the email is "ERROR: smartctl rquires a device name as the final command-line argument". Anyone 
[01:16] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, that is a Windows 7 support topic
[01:16] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, this is #ubuntu
[01:16] <helpmeplease> chocolate if you would read before you speak! i said it is stuck upside down in ubuntu as well!
[01:16] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, what program under ubuntu do you use the webcam for?
[01:16] <Johnny_Linux> sounds bogus to me, nice try tho,
[01:16] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, I'm sure it is
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  theres 'webcamstudio' that can do all sorts of neat realtime effects to a webcam strream and presents itself as a 'virtual webcam' to other software
[01:17] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: I forego the whole webcam-in-a-laptop thing actually, I would not hesitate to destroy one if I came into ownership of such a thing
[01:17] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: but thats !ot
[01:17] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis already made a good suggestion to use cheese
[01:18] <adzy> anyone?
[01:18] <helpmeplease> tried cheese
[01:18] <pfifo> adzy, you may need a shebang in the script (!#/bin/bash) the daemon may run with a weird shell or other unusual configurations
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> tried cheese to do what? :)
[01:18] <helpmeplease> i am going to try webcam studio
[01:18] <raub> chocolatemousse: electrical tape works fine too ;)
[01:18] <chocolatemousse> raub: still, there's a micas well
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> most all the webcam software ive seen/used supportes some sort of fliping or rotateing the video in the apps settings
[01:18] <chocolatemousse> raub: and tape can come off, and it can still be used to measure light levels
[01:19] <adzy> pfifo, the script starts with #! /bin/bash
[01:19] <helpmeplease> Dr yes but if you look on the internet most are for recording
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  and what are you doing exactly?  ive not heard the core of the problem mentioned
[01:19] <Johnny_Linux> wanting attention
[01:19] <adzy> does it matter that there's a space between #! and /bin/bash?
[01:19] <helpmeplease> Dr. that my webcam is stuck upside down that is the core of the problem lol
[01:19] <pfifo> adzy, no
[01:20] <helpmeplease> and apparently webcamstudio i can not find a download page
[01:20] <raub> chocolatemousse: you have a point there
[01:20] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, nonsense - if you use cheese and use the 'flip video' feature, its easy to 'fix'
[01:20] <helpmeplease> chocolate will that allow me to show my screen too?
[01:20] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, what are you trying to do exactly? Just use the webcam?
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  but i just said most all the software out there can rotate it.. so whats teh problem? you select rotate..
[01:21] <helpmeplease> grr... i want to use it for two things i need my screen flipped but i also want to be able to broadcast my desktop
[01:22] <Johnny_Linux> blah blah
[01:22] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, Ive never found a good solution for steraming desktop, ive only heard webcamstudio as the proposed solution, but its going to be hard for you to install, and may not work correctly.
[01:22] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: TeamViewer?
[01:22] <chocolatemousse> VNC?
[01:22] <chocolatemousse> Skype?
[01:22] <helpmeplease> chocolate teamviewer is a remote desktop tool.. for one
[01:23] <helpmeplease> 2 i need it for a chat room not skype
[01:23] <chocolatemousse> this is less and less an ubuntu question but, the VNC will work for multiple people
[01:23] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, I have a feeling hes streaming movies and video games to his friends, ive been down this road, I dont have a solution after lots and lots of trying
[01:23] <chocolatemousse> assuming the server works, stream to an capable multicast server
[01:24] <chocolatemousse> pfifo: yeah probably
[01:24] <chocolatemousse> pfifo, best solution is to have a really beefy computer
[01:24] <helpmeplease> no it is not choco because i am asking for a program that is linux based that will allow me to flip my screen and broadcast my screen
[01:25] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, your screen or your webcam?
[01:25] <chocolatemousse> your screen should not be upside down either
[01:25] <helpmeplease> my webcam
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> vlc - desktop streaming --> http://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleId=14625
[01:25] <helpmeplease> Dr but can i use vlc in a chat room?
[01:25] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, sure, post a link to the server
[01:25] <adzy> okay, so the email works if i use smartctl -a /dev/sda but not if use smartctl -a -d sat /dev/sda. no idea why, but as long as it works...
[01:25] <pfifo> helpmeplease, Ive been able to get some luck with recordmydesktop and flash media server, but I couldnt get sound, and I have never tried with a webcam as well. Windows is really the easiest way to do this
[01:25] <helpmeplease> or can i only stream to one person ?
[01:25] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, lookup multicast
[01:25] <chocolatemousse> udp multicast
[01:26] <chocolatemousse> Your biggest problem is going to be bandwidth, which is why you typically will want to invest in a server that someone else owns
[01:26] <chocolatemousse> Or get some really, really nice interenet
[01:26] <chocolatemousse> And a really nice computer
[01:26] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, there are plenty of free services already
[01:26] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, and its not really #ubuntu, this is more #multimedia
[01:27] <pfifo> chocolatemousse, ustream.tv was my choice
[01:27] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, we can recommend some services and applications, but not support them.
[01:27] <chocolatemousse> and as pfifo says there are plenty of services that do this already
[01:27] <helpmeplease> choco that is all i am asking for is applications for webcam that are linux based
[01:28] <helpmeplease> choco i looked before i cam to ask and i found that most of them are for recording
[01:28] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, Dr_Willis already recommended one
[01:28] <helpmeplease> multicast?
[01:28] <chocolatemousse> ustream.tv does not work?
[01:28] <Johnny_Linux> cheese
[01:28] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, you'll need to know how to setup a server if you want to use multicast
[01:28] <chocolatemousse> this is a #multimedia question
[01:28] <chocolatemousse> and possibly #internet
[01:29] <helpmeplease> okay i will install cheese
[01:29] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, or just use ustream.tv
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/how-to-broadcast-your-ubuntu-desktop-and-more-on-ustream-justin-tv-etc
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> webcamstudio seems to be under new developers yea. -> https://plus.google.com/communities/110329269823088092206
[01:30] <helpmeplease> yea that is what i said
[01:31] <helpmeplease> and cheese sounds like it is a webcam recording application
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  and what are you usign your webcam in exactly then? some web-flash-chat? if so - the flash settings on the site may have some options
[01:32] <helpmeplease> yes DR willis and the chat does not i checked
[01:32] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, flipping video is a dead simple operation, so I'd recommend A) find an application you like B) consult the application makers for more support if you can't find their 'flip video' option
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> at one time i rember  using webcamstudio and it would let me switch btween broadcasting my desktop. or the 'real' camera feed, or video clips..
[01:33] <helpmeplease> choco what do u think i am trying to do! i am trying to find an application that is linux based
[01:34] <abd-allah> Do I need Wine to run Playonlinux?
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> If the web site uses its own thing.. then you have to use that web sites stuff.  (flash most likely)
[01:34] <chocolatemousse> abd-allah, PlayOnLinux IS wine
[01:34] <helpmeplease> Dr there is no webcam studio download and there is nothing on the site...
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> abd-allah:  i belive play-on-liniux includes its own wine variants/tweaks. so  it should ihnclude wine as needed
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> https://plus.google.com/communities/110329269823088092206   seems active.. im just skimming the site now.
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> 'webcamstudio reloaded'
[01:35] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, you aren't looking hard enough then, it clearly states it is for Linux...
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/downloads/list
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> download was rather easy to find.
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/downloads/detail?name=webcamstudio_0.57beta4_all.deb&can=2&q=
[01:35] <pfifo> Dr_Willis, you should start a stream of you doing support on IRC
[01:35] <chocolatemousse> https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/downloads/detail?name=webcamstudio_0.57beta4_all.deb&can=2&q=
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> pfifo:  ill start a stream of my dog taking a nap. ;)
[01:36] <helpmeplease> well the site it brought me to was http://www.ws4gl.org/
[01:36] <chocolatemousse> hehe
[01:36] <j8d9r7d6r6d> .
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  all i did was read and follow the links when it was mentioned webcamstudio development  had moved to ..... (thates where i found the info)
[01:37] <pfifo> helpmeplease, https://webcamstudio.googlecode.com/files/webcamstudio_0.57beta4_all.deb
[01:37] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, that's a bogus site: https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/
[01:37] <helpmeplease> so was the one choco gave to me ...
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> sudo gdebi webcamstudio_0.57beta4_all.deb
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> lets see if it installs. ;)
[01:38] <chocolatemousse> helpmeplease, it was not, url was a little wonky
[01:38] <chocolatemousse> pfifo, cleaned it up
[01:38] <helpmeplease> okay now what is the instal command?
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> hmm failed to build the kernel module it needs here.. may be because im on 13.10
[01:39] <chocolatemousse> anyways I'm off!
[01:39] <chocolatemousse> gl all
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> be nice to see webcamstudio in the default repos.
[01:40] <pfifo> im not going to try installing it, dont want to download JRE over my hotspot
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> ;) yea - it is a java based app.
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> sort of impressed me all it could do  - but looks like its expanding past java now
[01:41] <crypticmofo> hi all .. need some help changing my default wm or session-manager
[01:41] <crypticmofo> i want to change it to lightdm
[01:41] <pfifo> plus if I install a JRE ill get addicted to minecraft again
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[01:41] <crypticmofo> im lookin at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[01:41] <john_rambo> I am facing frame skipping (mplayer2) after installing new pci sound card >>>>>>http://paste.ubuntu.com/6081693/
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> and select the dm you want.
[01:41] <helpmeplease> https://launchpad.net/~webcamstudio/+archive/webcamstudio-stable
[01:41] <fudus> lightdm is the log in screen
[01:41] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis: ok but i don't want to do that Dr_Willis .. let me explain .. i want to use the i3-wm manager but use lightdm .. is that hard ?
[01:41] <fudus> nm misunderstood
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  most window managers add a session entry to the lightdm session list
[01:42] <fudus> click the little ubuntu logo and you can choose another session
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> No idea if i3 does or not. shouldebt ne too hard to make a session for  i3
[01:43] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis: once i run dpkg-reconfigure lightdm it didn't do anything .. did it change on its own ?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  lightdm is the LOGIN SCREEN   if you just want a new desktop session  - you dont need to change the default Login screen.
[01:44] <helpmeplease> okay last question is i have downloaded webcam studio how do i install it in terminal?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> if you install i3 it MAY add a new item to the lightdm session listing
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> sudo gdebi webcamstudio_0.57beta4_all.deb       <<<< helpmeplease  mentioned this earlier
[01:45] <pfifo> helpmeplease, sudo gdebi webcamstudio_0.57beta4_all.deb
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> it failed to install here. (perhaps because im on 13.10)
[01:45] <helpmeplease> you guys found the wrong version lol
[01:45] <pfifo> helpmeplease, how so?
[01:45] <fudus> double clicking the deb will make it appear in software centre and you can do install via the gui
[01:46] <helpmeplease> one i found was a stable version for ubuntu
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  and the url is?
[01:46] <helpmeplease> https://launchpad.net/webcamstudio
[01:47] <helpmeplease> on the site you gave me if you scrolled down it said for ubuntu users
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> that site lists a PPA. You just need to enable the ppa and install ig via the packge manager
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> that makes it even easier
[01:48] <helpmeplease> so the one i found is easier?
[01:48] <Jaylan> .exit
[01:48] <fudus> just double click the deb and press the install button?
[01:48] <helpmeplease> it did not automatically install for me
[01:48] <pfifo> helpmeplease, yes, using a ppa is easier than installing a deb package manually
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> you should enable the PPA and install it that way. that way it will stay updated
[01:48] <fudus> it'll load in software centre and there will be an install button in top right
[01:49] <markdinh> hi, how do i remove the root permission from the person who installed the ubuntu box
[01:49] <pfifo> fudus, I think th PPA is the prefered unsupported method here
[01:49] <jrib> markdinh: remove him from the sudo group
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> for daily build ppa -->
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webcamstudio/webcamstudio-dailybuilds
[01:49] <markdinh> jrib, in the sudoers there's only root user, there's not his name
[01:50] <fudus> the user download the deb  already though
[01:50] <fudus> so might as well use it
[01:50] <jrib> markdinh: remove him from the sudo GROUP.  By default sudoers should have "%sudo blah blah" giving users in the sudo group the ability to sudo
[01:50] <pfifo> fudus, but the PPA supports 'apt-get upgrade'
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> the ppa dosent support saucy.. no webcamstudio for me. ;) yet.
[01:52] <fudus> is that what account type means in user accounts?
[01:52] <Aceface> can someone please help me with this pos atheros ar9485 wireless bug, it is driving me insane
[01:52] <pfifo> point of sale?
[01:52] <helpmeplease> okay did the command Dr said and when i went to look for webcam studio it is not there?
[01:53] <markdinh> thanks jrib
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> did you do an apt-get update?
[01:53] <helpmeplease> how do i do that?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:53] <helpmeplease> you have to remember i know nothing about linux
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[01:53] <markdinh> is there a simple GUI based tool to disable a specific user from using network? I'm not familiar with iptables syntax at all
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> enable ppa. update the list of packages, install the packages you want.
[01:55] <Aceface> can someone please help me with this pos atheros ar9485 wireless bug, it is driving me insane
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> helpmeplease, You would run sudo apt-get update the sudo apt-get install webcamstudio  it would be there then
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> the=then
[01:55] <pfifo> !details | aceface
[01:57] <helpmeplease> i think the link Dr posted is very help full! thanks man i think i can get it from here :)
[01:57] <Aceface> i got atheros ar9485, singal drops, low signal str, last ubuntu version i used that worked fine with 10.04,
[01:57] <phix> Hey, I am wondering if there is a package to setup a apt proxy, or would I use something like squid instead?
[01:58] <Aceface> i thought that this a a pretty famous bug that everyone knew about because it spans many distros
[01:58] <phix> Basically I have several Ubuntu and Debian boxes in my network, when I install or re-install a package I don't want to hit the Internet all of the time.
[01:58] <phunyguy> !patience | Aceface
[01:59] <pfifo> phix, mount a NFS to /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:59] <sblsdgfsd> how can i get this program? http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/services_centos.png
[02:00]  * pfifo uses a pendrive for /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:00] <phix> pfifo: hmmmm, NFS means locking issues right?
[02:00] <pfifo> phix, yeah, it would
[02:01] <sblsdgfsd> how can i test if my new speakers are popping because ubuntu/my system or the speakers themselves?
[02:01] <pythonuklearner> Aceface: dmesg | grep wlan0 | more
[02:01] <fudus> http://askubuntu.com/questions/3503/best-way-to-cache-apt-downloads-on-a-lan don't know if it still works
[02:01] <abd-allah> can anyone suggest me a free book to learn and use ubuntu like a pro user?
[02:01] <sblsdgfsd> anyone else have the annoying issue where if you have multiple drives and nautilus is looking at the mounted drive when clicking on the launcher it launches a new nautilus window instead of showing you the currently open one?
[02:02] <somsip> sblsdgfsd: boot to somethingg else (other distro live cd perhaps), plug into another source (mp3 player perhaps)
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> !manual | abd-allah     start here.. then hit up search sites for more
[02:02] <sblsdgfsd> somsip: yeah i guess i could try that
[02:03] <codepython777> When i do nginx start -> * Starting nginx nginx           ----  nginx: invalid option: "/var/run/nginx.pid"
[02:03] <codepython777> any ideas how to fix this?
[02:03] <codepython777> 12.04
[02:03] <abd-allah> Now I've started loving linux.
[02:05] <Aceface> im so sad about this linux bug or i would love linux again too
[02:05] <pfifo> !find
[02:05] <helpmeplease> okay, i downloaded and went to install it and got this jamie@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install webcamstudio_0.61.tar.bz2 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package webcamstudio_0.61.tar.bz2 E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'webcamstudio_0.61.tar.bz2' jamie@ubuntu:~$
[02:06] <pfifo> helpmeplease, try 'sudo apt-get install webcamstudio'
[02:06] <codepython777> Anyone can help me with getting nginx on ubuntu 12.04 -> http://bpaste.net/show/3p5zlCGOz3a1u6XtDKGx/
[02:06] <helpmeplease> pfifo just webcamstudio not the file extension?
[02:06] <phix> abd-allah: as in best practices?  or the basics of being a computer / system / network admin?
[02:07] <helpmeplease> jamie@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install webcamstudio Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package webcamstudio jamie@ubuntu:~$
[02:07] <helpmeplease> i can see the file on the my computer
[02:08] <pfifo> codepython777, try running these, 'sudo apt-get install -f' and/or 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  do an apt-cache search webcam   and see if thats the proper name
[02:08] <abd-allah> As a day to day user. @phix.
[02:08] <phix> helpmeplease: a .tar.bz2 file is not a Ubuntu package, Ubuntu packages end in .deb
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  using the package manager will NOT use that .deb  you downloaded.
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  it will redownload the proper .deb from the ppa/repo
[02:08] <pfifo> helpmeplease, I dont think you setup the PPA correctly, you dont need any files
[02:08] <codepython777> pfifo: dist-upgrade gives the same error
[02:09] <sblsdgfsd> anyone else have the annoying issue where if you have multiple drives and nautilus is looking at the mounted drive when clicking on the launcher it launches a new nautilus window instead of showing you the currently open one?
[02:09] <codepython777> same with -f
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> webcamstudio - WebcamStudio For GNU/Linux
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> was what apt-cache search showed here.
[02:09] <helpmeplease> well when i downloaded it it download the file i first tried but it is not installed
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> You use EITHER the .deb you downloaded.. (sudo gdebi whatever.deb) or you use the apt tools.. to get it from the ppa.
[02:09] <pfifo> codepython777, whats the output of "lsb_release -rs"
[02:10] <codepython777> pfifo: 12.04
[02:10] <phix> abd-allah: A day to day user who has access to an IT department / Technician?  Or a day to day user who just wants to write emails, goto websites, watch movies and write the occasional document and doesn't care about backing up or learning in any great detail about the OS or computer they are using ?
[02:10] <codepython777> pfifo: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[02:10] <codepython777> pfifo: My do-release-upgraded ended badly, but a reboot and lsb-release is still working
[02:10] <Toni_Bahamas> Get Free Web Traffic   http://www.te4everyone.com/index.php?ref=27
[02:11] <pfifo> codepython777, I think you should 'sudo apt-get purge nginx-common' then retry
[02:11] <abd-allah> phix: I'm not a professional . Actually i'm student and i'm realy curious about linux. I'm new here but I want to learn more and more. I've also started learning C programming language.
[02:11] <phix> ah ok
[02:12] <codepython777> pfifo: that gives: http://bpaste.net/show/VmUAitnk7TJYMURGFi46/
[02:12] <abaddon> How can I recover a deleted /etc/ap/ folder?
[02:12] <helpmeplease> so what you are saying is if i download a .deb file i would run the sudo install command?
[02:12] <phix> A student studying a computer related course?
[02:12] <phix> abaddon: Restore it from your backups
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:   ----->    sudo gdebi whatever.deb
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> is what i use normally
[02:12] <abaddon> phix, how do I do this?
[02:13] <abd-allah> phix:No. I'm a high school student. I hope to study computer after completing my high school.
[02:13] <phix> abaddon: or if you are using etckeeper and have it under version control (like i do) use git, or svn or whatever version control software you used
[02:13] <abaddon> phix, as far as I'm aware, I haven't any
[02:14] <phix> abaddon: ok, what filesystem is it? ext2/3/4, xfs,jfs, reiserfs?
[02:14] <pfifo> codepython777, ive never seen the '$upgrade failed' before, im not sure whats going on... does 'apt-get install -f' do anything unusual?
[02:14] <abaddon> helpmeplease, or you could type sudo dpkg -i pkg.deb
[02:14] <Cache_Money1> how do i make the font size in my terminal smaller?
[02:14] <abaddon> phix, this is an ubu 1204 with a ext3 fs I think
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> Cache_Money1, terminal has a preferences
[02:14] <scarrs> Cache_Money1: edit the profile in the profile menu
[02:15] <phix> abaddon: testdisk is a great peice of software that can recover deleted files, just make sure you don't write anymore data to the drive otherwise it may overwrite what you are trying to recover
[02:15] <Cache_Money1> wilee-nilee: oh nice. thx
[02:16] <abaddon> phix, is this a pkg I need t9o install?
[02:16] <phix> abaddon: alternatively if you don't care about recovering any data and just want to reinstall the package then just reinstall it and get the default files in there
[02:17] <phix> abaddon: do you care about the data you lost? or you just want to get the thing working and dont mind reconfiguring from scratch
[02:17] <abaddon> phix, also, I created a new apt folder with the intention nto just rebuild the contents....
[02:17] <helpmeplease> downloaded this webcamstudio-dkms_0.64-368~201309030243~ubuntu13.04.1_all.deb (23.3 KiB) how would i install it?
[02:17] <rww> helpmeplease: double-click it in the file manager. or, if you prefer terminal, sudo dpkg -i thatfilename.deb
[02:18] <abaddon> phix, don't mind starting from scratch really, i'm having issues with video stuff.
[02:18] <king-crimson> 8-o
[02:18] <raymond_> Been googling this for about 2hrs off and on.. and nothing useful.
[02:18] <abaddon> helpmeplease, just type sudo dpkg -i that name
[02:19] <helpmeplease> okay do you know of place where there is a list off all the comands and how to used them for terminal?
[02:19] <phix> abaddon: ok so reinstall the package then
[02:19] <abaddon> helpmeplease, after typing sudo dpkg -i satart the name and press tab it'll autofill the file name you want
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> im betting dpkg -i wont pull in all the needed dependencies for the .deb
[02:19] <scarrs> anybody able to help me with setting up postfix? I am getting an error delivery failed I think mail is turned off by default can someone point me to a config file to turn it on?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> but thats why i always use 'gdebi' ;)
[02:19] <abaddon> phix, no no, I deleted the /etc/apt file,lol. it's not a program
[02:20] <phix> abaddon: use aptitude or apt-get --purge remove packagename; apt-get install packagename or the software centre program, take your pick
[02:20] <phix> oh /etc/apt
[02:20] <phix> I thought you said /etc/ap
[02:20] <raymond_> 13.10, daily updates.  No system-compositor-testing ppa.  I just did a system upgrade and now whenever lightdm starts, my monitor just goes to sleep.  I can switch into a VT, but only if I do Ctrl+Alt+F3, then Ctrl+Alt+F2.  Strangely enough, after I kill Xorg I can run xinit-- so I've been able to get Unity running with that command.  Oh and of course dmesg tells me nothing useful, nor do Xorg.*.log nor lightdm logs. :(
[02:21] <phix> abaddon: reinstall apt then I guess
[02:21] <sblsdgfsd> how can i get this program? http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/services_centos.png
[02:21] <abaddon> Dr_Willis, helpmeplease  gdebi is good too. but I thought the deb had all needed items to get the prog running
[02:21] <pfifo> helpmeplease, use the 'man' program to pull up manuals for software your intrested in learning, to get a list of all the manuals you have installed, 'find /usr/share/man | grep gz'
[02:22] <abaddon> phix, so just type apt-get remove --purge apt then reinstall it?
[02:22] <phix> abaddon: no dont purge apt
[02:22] <phix> that is a bad idea
[02:22] <abaddon> phix, so just type apt-get install --reinstall apt then reinstall it?
[02:23] <phix> abaddon: umm not sure what the flag is, but that might work, it all depends what package /etc/apt is actaully in
[02:23] <helpmeplease> it still wont work
[02:23] <helpmeplease> i did sudo dpkg "filenamehere".deb
[02:23] <sblsdgfsd> whats a good sound card that is solid in Linux?
[02:23] <pfifo> phix, /etc/apt is installed by apt
[02:23] <rww> discrete sound cards still exist?
[02:23] <sblsdgfsd> something that is high quality
[02:23] <ace_>  net user admin *
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  its uses java.. so i imagine it will pull in quite a few things also.
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  it pulled in about 4 differnt things here for me
[02:24] <ace_> dos key
[02:24] <abaddon> helpmeplease, type: sudo apt-get install gdebi  THEN cd to the directory with the pkg
[02:24] <ace_> cmd
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  its 'sudo dpkg -i THENAMEOFTHEFILE.deb'
[02:24] <abaddon> helpmeplease, then type gdebi pkgNAme
[02:24] <rww> ace_: Hello, welcome to #ubuntu, the technical support channel for Ubuntu Linux. How can we help you today :)?
[02:24] <ace_> net user admin *
[02:24] <helpmeplease> o lol either i got it lol
[02:24] <ace_> i need anti virus
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> helpmeplease:  or install gdebi 'sudo apt-get install gdebi' then 'sudo gdebi whatever.deb'
[02:24] <zykotick9> helpmeplease: "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[02:24] <rww> ace_: for Ubuntu?
[02:25] <Aceface> does anyone know about the atheros wireless card bug and how to fix it?
[02:25] <somsip> !av | ace_
[02:25] <helpmeplease> thanks guys it is installing:P
[02:25] <Aceface> !list
[02:25] <abaddon> phix, ahh... OK
[02:25] <pfifo> Aceface, practicing for talk like a pirate day?
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> argh that be me favorite day
[02:26] <abaddon> PHIX, loolzz, I can't dpo that. XD Damn... Apt controls installibng stuff and I don't have it
[02:26] <phix> abaddon: hmmm not all files under /etc/apt are in the apt package, some files, especially under /etc/apt/apt.conf.d are installed by other programs
[02:26] <pfifo> wilee-nilee, huh? pirates say stuff like !list, 0-day and warez
[02:26] <abaddon> phix, loolzz, I can't dpo that. XD Damn... Apt controls installibng stuff and I don't have it
[02:27] <OerHeks> 10 more days, pfifo
[02:27] <abaddon> phix, yeeaah, but apt itself was removed
[02:27] <phix> abaddon: dpkg controls it, apt-get just downoads it
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> pfifo, pirates day you scallywag. ;)
[02:27] <phix> abaddon: you removed /usr/bin/apt-get ?
[02:27] <abaddon> phix, no, /etc/apt
[02:27] <lgc> (Sorry to repeat this, but my terminal stuck) Dr_Willis: Hi. Do you happen to know why my touchpad stopped working in Ubuntu as well as in Windows?
[02:27] <abd-allah> Thanks all. bye
[02:28] <abaddon> phix, but apt has the sources list to pull pkgs
[02:28] <phix> abaddon: ok so just recover it then, use testdisk or manually create a /etc/apt/sources.list file and reinstall apt
[02:28] <OerHeks> lgc sounds broken, or you have hit the touchpad/ext mouse key on your laptop
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  you hit that fn-touchpad on/off combo/key and turned it off perhaps? or it broke
[02:28] <Nicknamee> "sell short market"
[02:28] <phix> abaddon: but really you should of backed that up, or used something like etckeeper (although version control != backing up_
[02:29] <phix> )
[02:29] <abaddon> phix, will it run fine missing the other stuff if I were to just add a sources list?
[02:29] <lgc> OerHeks: Dr_Willis Is there a button to disable the touchpad?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  on mine ther eis..
[02:29] <abaddon> phix, yeah, well...I deleted it by accadent while i was in ranger. =p
[02:29] <phix> abaddon: yeah but it will complain that the source is untrusted as the gpg keys are stored in there too I think
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> September 19th is pirates day, get out your hooks and planks and join the party. (public announcement)
[02:30] <abaddon> phix, true, but i can trust 'em till i get the gpgs
[02:30] <rww> wilee-nilee: Perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic might find that more interesting ;)
[02:30] <OerHeks> lgc most laptops have, look for the coloured FN key or read the manual
[02:30] <lgc> Dr_Willis, OerHeks: Ha! I just found out there is one on my keyboard too.. ;) .
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  one laptop i have - has a button right above the touchpad.
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> others have some fn-XXX key
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> rww, done, yeah probably.
[02:31] <lgc> OerHeks, Dr_Willis: and I just brought it back to function. Thanks!
[02:31] <OerHeks> have fun
[02:31] <lgc> OerHeks: You bet!
[02:31] <phix> abaddon: try and use testdisk first, which will require you creating a /etc/apt/sources.list file manually (deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse), then recover the files in /etc/apt
[02:32] <abaddon> phix, know where I can just dl an full apt folder??
[02:32] <phix> abaddon: you can trust it but apt will complain
[02:32] <phix> abaddon: no as the folder is different depending on what applications you have installed
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> 'full' would be like.. several TB ;)
[02:32] <abaddon> phix, yeah but that should be updateable?
[02:33] <phix> abaddon: recover it from backup or use testdisk, in the future you should be backing this stuff up,  I use dar and a custom script to do it on my systems
[02:33] <abaddon> Dr_Willis, hur hur, got a point
[02:34] <Levi__> hello everyone
[02:34] <sblsdgfsd> how can i get this program? http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/services_centos.png
[02:34] <lgc> Second issue, OerHeks, Dr_Willis: When I play a movie my machine overheats and ends up shutting down. Someone told me it had to do with the rendering being done by the CPU, but I never got past that point. Any hints?
[02:34] <abaddon> phix, I can just create a script to cp the file from the dir to my dropbox folder. =p
[02:34] <pfifo> sblsdgfsd, looks like you'd have to install centos for that
[02:35] <phix> abaddon: sure, you should keep a history of backups and rotate them
[02:35] <rww> duplicity <3
[02:35] <sblsdgfsd> pfifo: its a centos only program?
[02:35] <abaddon> phix, amen to that. Still, it was never my intention to delete the folder,lol
[02:36] <crypticmofo> guys whenever i reboot my computer i have to put in xinput set-prop 15 "Device Enabled" 0
[02:36] <crypticmofo> manually all the time .. how come
[02:36] <OerHeks> !lmsensors | lgc
[02:36] <crypticmofo> do i have to put it in my .xinitrc or my i3-wm config file
[02:36] <pfifo> sblsdgfsd, if you can find the name of the program you can ask ubottu if it is in the repos, ex...
[02:36] <pfifo> !info gimp
[02:36] <abaddon> crypticmofo, do you have xinit installed?
[02:37] <lgc> OerHeks: Yes, I even have a charting software, Psensor. However, it only monitors.
[02:38] <pfifo> lgc, make sure you fan is running as fast as if can when your CPU gets hot
[02:38] <abaddon> crypticmofo, jus type sudo apt-get xinit and see what it does. if it installs then reboot your sys and it should be fine
[02:38] <phix> abaddon: true, but the unintended usually happens :)  I think Murphey said something along those lines
[02:39] <sblsdgfsd> anyone else have the annoying issue where if you have multiple drives and nautilus is looking at the mounted drive when clicking on the launcher it launches a new nautilus window instead of showing you the currently open one?
[02:39] <abaddon> phix, XD touche
[02:40] <phix> sblsdgfsd: No I haven't experienced that issue, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:40] <lgc> pfifo: How can I control that?
[02:41] <pfifo> !lmsensors | lgc
[02:41] <OerHeks> lgc temp and fanspeed should be handled by ACPI, this is setup in your bios
[02:42] <lgc> pfifo: Yes, thanks. I was telling OerHeks a few lines ago that I even have Psensors installed.
[02:43] <pfifo> lgc, you can use lmsensors to control you fan speeds, check out the link ubottu sent you for details.
[02:43] <lgc> OerHeks: I don't recall being able to mess with fan speed during BIOS settings (the F2 stuff).
[02:44] <one> For the 2.6 kernel what is the boot param to enable Direct framebuffer mode?
[02:47] <abaddon> phix, ok...so I just cp'd my apt folder from my laptop to my dropbox which my desktop is synced to. then i cp'd it to /etc. I ran update and am now upgradeing my pkgs. will this work fine?
[02:48] <sblsdgfsd> phix: 13.04
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> if it dosent compalain it should work abaddon  ;)
[02:48] <abaddon> phix, i did this mainly cause i'm lazy but also wanted to see what'd happen
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> on a small home lan - that 'apt-cacher-ng' service is handy to setup
[02:48] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  sofar not a peep. hapily upgradeing
[02:49] <abaddon> =p
[02:49] <phix> abaddon: umm you may want to ensure the permissions are set correctly
[02:49] <abaddon> phix, how so??
[02:50] <phix> Dr_Willis: what does that do?
[02:50] <phix> abaddon: because dropbox doesn't retain filesystem permissions
[02:50] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  Hey, does acpi handle the fan on a gpu?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> phix:  it works as a apt- caching system so every pc ont he lan gets the files from it.. saveing downloads if you got more then 1 pc
[02:50] <Sik> Really stupid question: using Ubuntu 12.04 here (with GNOME classic), where is the button to upgrade to newer versions?
[02:50] <SarahX> rip bill Cosby
[02:50] <ace_> hello
[02:50] <abaddon> phix, riight??? meaning?
[02:51] <ace_> linux rules
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> Sik:  you want to upgrade to 12.10?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[02:51] <sysmonn> Hi
[02:51] <ace_> assemble + microcodes
[02:51] <phix> Dr_Willis: oh cool, something I want, although I would like it to do debian as well as ubuntu
[02:51] <sysmonn> Hi, I have a filename contain "THIS IS A TEST", how could I filter the 1st and 2nd column of it using AWK. so the output will be just "THIS IS", thanks
[02:51] <SarahX> does Linux have an active directory alternative?
[02:51] <phix> abaddon: you know what filesystem permissions are right?
[02:51] <sysmonn> I could only print the 1st column.
[02:51] <abaddon> sik, type in sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in terminal. Ithink that's the command anyway
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> sysmonn:  are we doing your homework for you? ;)
[02:52] <sysmonn> not at all Dr_Willis
[02:52] <rww> !dist-upgrade
[02:52] <sysmonn> im just confused.
[02:52] <phix> sysmonn: ummm is this question 1 or 2 on your assignment sheet?
[02:52] <Sik> Dr_Willis: update manager doesn't show me the newest version, that's why I ask :/
[02:52] <sysmonn> well I can just do the single line or specific column, but trying to get 1st and 2nd.
[02:52] <Sik> Though may have been a fluke, I should recheck
[02:52] <nerdtron> phix, file permissions are not retained in dropbox....windows clients don't understand persmisisons
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Sik:  thats because it willonly show the next LTS version if you are on LTS
[02:52] <abaddon> phix, if you're saying that the sys says it doesn't own the folder then yes. I checked before hand though and it said owned by the correct user
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Sik:  unless you tell it otherwise
[02:53] <Sik> Dr_Willis: oh... well, no wonder (12.04 is LTS)
[02:53] <phix> nerdtron: I know, which is why I suggested that abaddon ensure the filesystem permissions are correct on the /etc/apt folder as he copied it from dropbox
[02:53] <Sik> Should I just wait for the next LTS? Though I'm trying to update to see if that fixes Anthy... >.<'
[02:53] <phix> abaddon: so /etc/apt is owned by root?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Sik:  deends on what you problem is. 13.04 is also out now.. and 13.10 is due out  on the 10th monthj
[02:54] <sblsdgfsd> whats a good sound card that is solid in Linux?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Sik:  test with a live cd.
[02:54] <phix> sblsdgfsd: my onboard one works fine in linux
[02:54] <markdinh> When i create useradd -home /home/dev dev,  when dev logs in, he still doesn't have a default home dir?
[02:55] <Sik> I thought 13.10 was out already and next was 14.04 /o\ Dr_Willis: CD drive busted :x Also Anthy was working until a recent Python update
[02:55] <rww> markdinh: see the first line of the manpage and use adduser instead
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Sik:  version # is the year/monthj
[02:55] <abaddon> phix, huh...I didn't check that part.... >.> just checked in db. still, doesn't root technically own everything in a sense and have permission to access folders owned by a user?
[02:55] <Sik> Dr_Willis: well, that explains the .04 and .10 version numbers o_O
[02:55] <abaddon> phix, because the system is updateing fine?
[02:55] <sblsdgfsd> phix: does it crackle at all or pop?
[02:55] <phix> sblsdgfsd: I actually have two soundcards in this computer, one is integrated in my videocard (for HDMI sound) and the other is inbuilt into the north or south bridge chip on the motherboard
[02:56] <abaddon> phix, sorry, it's now upgradeing
[02:56] <sblsdgfsd> phix: i just bought some Bose speakers and they crackle pop every once in awhile
[02:56] <phix> sblsdgfsd: crackling and popping is an anologue interference thing usually, the digital audio (HDMI) sounds perfect
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> ive had cellphones near my pc - cause speakers to crackle and pop.. right befor i get a call. ;)
[02:56] <markdinh> rww thanks a lot
[02:57] <OerHeks> Bose boxes on a 20 cent wire do not perform well
[02:57] <phix> sblsdgfsd: Are you using an optical cable to connect to your amp or copper?
[02:58] <sblsdgfsd> phix: i think it is analog
[02:58] <sblsdgfsd> phix: damn i need to take these back
[02:58] <sblsdgfsd> phix: 100 bucks for crackle speakers
[02:59] <abaddon> sblsdgfsd, it could be pulseaudsio
[02:59] <phix> sblsdgfsd: Does it have an optical input?  or are you using a crappy cable to plug to your computer? or does the wire going from the computer to the amp travel through a bunch of power cables or a microwave oven?
[02:59] <abaddon> sblsdgfsd, remove it and see if ALSA alone does fine
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> ive also seen some sound cards make a pop or crackle right when they startup. from being slient for a while due to a power saveing mode
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> test with some other live cd's and dis4rtos see if it happens in them all also.
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> bb
[03:00] <Sticky_> hello
[03:00] <Sticky_> can anyone help me with an issue I have
[03:00] <phix> abaddon: ummmm maybe not do that
[03:00] <sblsdgfsd> phix: here is the speakers http://www.amazon.com/Consumer-Electronic-Companion-Multimedia-Supply/dp/B00ENFC3MQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1378695615&sr=8-4&keywords=bose+companion+s
[03:01] <somsip> !ask | Sticky_
[03:01] <Sticky_> lol
[03:01] <Sticky_> sorry
[03:01] <sblsdgfsd> phix: its just an audio cable going into the back of my system
[03:01] <Sticky_> I'm really looking forward to trying out Linux, I took my first baby steps earlier and set up a duel-boot with Ubuntu 12.04. Sadly though, I can't connect wirelessly. Now I'm obviously not really good with Ubuntu or any Linux distro so can you guys help me out?  The laptop is an Acer Aspire 5349 and the network adapter is: Atheros AR5B95
[03:01] <abaddon> sblsdgfsd, before sending them back try sudo apt-get remove --purge pulseaudio && sudo apt-get install ALSA
[03:01] <phix> sblsdgfsd: ok, try connecting different devices to it and see if it still crackles
[03:02] <phix> sblsdgfsd: ignore abaddon
[03:02] <phix> abaddon: There are alot more less dangerous tests that can be performed first
[03:02] <abaddon> sblsdgfsd, phix, much of my audio issues have come from pulseaudio
[03:03] <abaddon> phix, sblsdgfsd Dangerous? You're kidding right?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> removeing pulse audio - fromw hat ive seen in here = user ends up reinstalling the system later.
[03:03] <phix> abaddon: If your car doesn't start do you take out the motor and strip it down? or just look at the fuel gauge and confirm that your nextdoor neighbour is stealing your petrol again?
[03:03] <sblsdgfsd> phix: my monitor has built in speakers and i was using those before and they play fine
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> any time ive ever seen someone do a 'remove pulse audio'   for any reason - is normally a very bad sign. ;)
[03:04] <OerHeks> abaddon removing the ~/.pulseaudio folder can help, removal is not logical.
[03:04] <phix> abaddon: yes dangerous as you are getting into an advanced topic
[03:04] <sblsdgfsd> ill try a reboot and let you know
[03:04] <sblsdgfsd> maybe i just need to reboot
[03:04] <abaddon> phix, sblsdgfsd Dr_Willis  pulse is like an overlay to ALSA adding extra features. if it doesn't fix the issue all he has to do is reinstall it
[03:04] <phix> abaddon: and not easy to recover from, especially if you don't backup your system files :)
[03:05] <crypticmofo> hmm.. sorry guys i left .. for a while .. i was asking a question about my touchpad
[03:05]  * zykotick9 would just like to say, that the !atheros factoid, that links to the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs is kinda weak...  Sticky_ asked a great first question, but there certainly isn't a factoid for atheros like !broadcom
[03:05] <crypticmofo> manually all the time .. how come
[03:06] <crypticmofo> do i have to put it in my .xinitrc or my i3-wm config file
[03:07] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis: you around ?
[03:07] <sblsdgfsd> phix: now that i pay closer attention it cracklers with my monitor speakres as well
[03:07] <phix> crypticmofo: Your touch pad should just work :)
[03:07] <sblsdgfsd> phix: its just more apparent with the nicer bose speakers
[03:07] <crypticmofo> i don't want it to work .. its useless
[03:08] <phix> sblsdgfsd: yeah the boss speakers are probably more sensitive
[03:08] <crypticmofo> phix: xinput set-prop 15 "Device Enabled" 0 i have to run this all the time at boot
[03:08] <abaddon> phix, sblsdgfsd Dr_Willis  Dangerous as I am getting into an advanced topic? You are kidding. Pulseaudio is nice but has causede lots of problems for people. removing it and keeping Alsa has fixed many of the problems.I'm telling the guy to sudo rm -rf /     mate.
[03:08] <phix> crypticmofo: you have the gpointing-device-settings package installed?
[03:09] <abaddon> phix, sblsdgfsd Dr_Willis  Dangerous as I am getting into an advanced topic? You are kidding. Pulseaudio is nice but has causede lots of problems for people. removing it and keeping Alsa has fixed many of the problems.I'm NOT telling the guy to sudo rm -rf /     mate.
[03:09] <crypticmofo> phix: never heard of it
[03:09] <phix> crypticmofo: also, most laptops have a button / switch to enable / disable the touchpad, you sure that isn't your issue?
[03:09] <phix> crypticmofo: ok gpointing-device-settings allows you to change mousepad settings, as well as enable and disable it
[03:10] <crypticmofo> nope .. phix my bios dosen't even have touchpad in there
[03:10] <crypticmofo> oh ok
[03:10] <crypticmofo> so install it phix  ?
[03:10] <Sticky__> so what should I do then
[03:10] <phix> crypticmofo: I am not talking about your BIOS, I am talking about the function keys on your keyboard / buttons on your laptop that enabled / disables it
[03:11] <sblsdgfsd> phix: its definately linux because i just plugged the speakers into my android phone and it plays fine
[03:11] <sblsdgfsd> phix: or some kind of interference on my motherboard
[03:11] <phix> crypticmofo: Couldn't hurt, although not sure if it allows you to save defaults that presist over a reboot, try it and see I suppose :)
[03:11] <Sticky__> Is it against the rules to ask the same question twice?
[03:12] <phix> sblsdgfsd: You never had windows installed on that computer?
[03:12] <sblsdgfsd> phix: no
[03:12] <Sticky__> I'm really looking forward to trying out Linux, I took my first baby steps earlier and set up a duel-boot with Ubuntu 12.04. Sadly though, I can't connect wirelessly. Now I'm obviously not really good with Ubuntu or any Linux distro so can you guys help me out?  The laptop is an Acer Aspire 5349 and the network adapter is: Atheros AR5B95
[03:12] <phix> Sticky__: nope, just make sure you leave about 5 - 10 minutes inbetween, otherwise it gets annoying
[03:12] <Sticky__> allright
[03:13] <Gnea> !laptops
[03:13] <crypticmofo> phix: thanks it worked
[03:13] <Gnea> Sticky__: try the first two links, see if you can find your model in one of those lists. Perhaps someone has written a HOWTO.
[03:14] <futurepardon> greetings. i have a new install of xubuntu 13.04 on a laptop that is not showing the 'show technical items' option in software manager. tried searching the web for info, did not find any. thank you in advance for any information on how i may fix this.
[03:14] <Sticky__> my laptop isnt on either list
[03:15] <phix> Sticky__: open up a terminal (press your windows button to bring up the ubuntu search bar thingy and type in terminal then enter)
[03:15] <Sticky__> hold on one sec
[03:15] <Sticky__> im on windows right now
[03:15] <phix> Sticky__: type in  lspci | grep -i atheros
[03:16] <Sticky__> im gonna reconnect to irc using mobile
[03:16] <phix> you should then see something like this --> 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[03:17] <phix> Sticky__: ok
[03:18] <BootToBiosOhNoo> Hello channel. How goes it, does everyone like the new ubuntu 13
[03:19] <rww> It goes supportfully. I expect #ubuntu-offtopic would be happy to chat about Ubuntu 13.04, though :)
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> BootToBiosOhNoo, this is support do you have an issue?
[03:20] <BootToBiosOhNoo> I do! I was being cordial. I installed ubuntu to my vivobook (i3 version) and now it boots to bios and shows up as ubuntu(drive not found) in bios
[03:20] <BootToBiosOhNoo> I was wondering why this might be, I'm working on it now before it actually boot to a grub cli but I forgot the error it gave. not getting that error now though
[03:21] <tag2> So gnome doesn't start by default, my plymouth screen loads fully and then hanges there forever until i go into another tty and do sudo gdm. any ideas?
[03:21] <Sticky___> phix im booting ubuntu now
[03:21] <BootToBiosOhNoo> Ubuntu runs fine off of my usb drive btw.
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> tag2:  you installed ubuntu? or ubuntu gnome?
[03:21] <anon914> i know a solution: install gentoo
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> !fixboot | BootToBiosOhNoo
[03:21] <Gnea> Sticky__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1901137
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | BootToBiosOhNoo
[03:22] <tag2> it was originally a xubuntu install, but i removed xfce and for a while gnome3 was working fine. now it isn't
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> BootToBiosOhNoo, This a W8 dualboot?
[03:25] <Sticky___> hey Gnea how do i see what my network card is in terminal
[03:25] <markdinh> guys, i've used "sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -p all -m owner --uid-owner dev -j DROP" to disable user dev from access Internet . But it seesms to block localhost as well
[03:27] <zykotick9> Sticky___: do you see you wireless with "lspci | grep -i eth" in a terminal?
[03:27] <zykotick9> Sticky___: yes/no only please?!
[03:27] <anon914> no
[03:27] <anon914> use iwconfig
[03:28] <Sticky___> yes
[03:28] <zykotick9> Sticky___: can you find the PCIID for me (it'll look like "[168c:001c]" when you run, "lspci -vvnn | grep -i eth"
[03:29] <c2tarun> how can I remove join and part messages in xchat?
[03:30] <rww> c2tarun: for one channel or all channels?
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> c2tarun:  its in the xchat menus on the channel button.
[03:30] <Sticky___> [1969:2062]
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> right click.. (and check the xchat faq)
[03:30] <c2tarun> got it :)
[03:31] <Sticky___> yes
[03:31] <zykotick9> Sticky___: "lsmod atl1c
[03:31] <zykotick9> Sticky___: sorry, paste fail.  "lsmod | grep -i atl1c"
[03:32] <phix> Sticky___: nice
[03:33] <Sticky___> 36969 0
[03:33] <smw94> anyone use libreoffice 4.1 impress and cant use fade slide transition ?
[03:34] <Sticky___> also it says that the ethernet controller is ar8152
[03:34] <zykotick9> Sticky___: if you got something back, it means that module is loaded.  and that "should" be the driver for that card.  you have check the propriatary driver thing right?
[03:34] <smw94> anyone use libreoffice 4.1 impress and cant use fade slide transition ?
[03:35] <Sticky___> im sorry i dont understand
[03:35] <zykotick9> Sticky___: ubuntu has some driver install "thingie", i don't know what it's called, or where to find it...
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> Under the manage-softwre-repositories tool - last tab
[03:37] <Sticky___> i ran a program and it says that i have no proprietary drivers in use
[03:37] <trfsrfr> My 13.04 is very very slow. How do I fix this?
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> trfsrfr:  depeneds on what part of it is slow.
[03:38] <trfsrfr> Dr_Willis - it swithces between things, and turns on and off very slowly, also the screen fades a lot
[03:39] <trfsrfr> on off as in programs starting and stopping
[03:40] <trfsrfr> I just loaded it alone on my laptop, and it doesnt like it I dont think
[03:40] <Sticky___> zykotick9, are you still there?
[03:41] <anon914> trfsrfr: install gentoo, it will go faster
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> you looked at your video drivers to see if theres some proparity drivers you an install?
[03:42] <trfsrfr> im not that tech savvy/sophisticated.
[03:42] <dheeraj> Hii all
[03:43] <dheeraj> I am unable to mount external hardisk
[03:43] <nerdtron>  trfsrfr can we have the specs for your computer?
[03:43] <dheeraj> I tried all stuff but unable to mount
[03:43] <nerdtron> dheeraj, any errors when mounting?
[03:44] <dheeraj> nerdtron: yes
[03:44] <trfsrfr> AMD Phenom(tm) II N660 Dual-Core Processor × 2 , Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS880, 64 bit
[03:44] <c2tarun> trfsrfr, what is your system configuration?
[03:44] <trfsrfr> acer aspire 5552
[03:44]  * c2tarun will always suggest ubuntu 12.04 for non-tech guys
[03:45] <trfsrfr> configuration?
[03:45] <c2tarun> trfsrfr, dude, I have i3 with 3GB ram and 1GB graphic card. :| and ubuntu 13.04 doesn't run on my laptop smoothly.
[03:46] <nerdtron> dheeraj, what are the errors when you mount the hard drive?
[03:46] <trfsrfr> I wanted 12.04 but I couldnt download it, wasnt available
[03:46] <dheeraj> i used mount -t ntfs
[03:46] <trfsrfr> or I missed it somewhere
[03:47] <nerdtron> trfsrfr, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[03:47] <nerdtron> download the 12.04 and try it?
[03:47] <nerdtron> dheeraj, mount -t ntfs and what error do you get?
[03:47] <c2tarun> trfsrfr, I'll suggest you to install Ubuntu 12.04. It has Unity-2D which is removed from other ubuntu's. It works great on low spec machines.
[03:48] <trfsrfr> nerdrton: thank you. Ive been here, I remember this now. For some reason I couldn't get it to work.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. running 13.10 on my netbook. ;) but i am using xubntu - seems to be quiet speedy on it.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> perhaps just switching desktops would be the easiest thing to try
[03:48] <trfsrfr> C2tarum; thank you too.
[03:49] <dheeraj> nerdtron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6081985/
[03:49] <c2tarun> trfsrfr, you are welcome
[03:50] <c2tarun> Dr_Willis, just curious, what is the configuration of you netbook?
[03:50] <nerdtron> dheeraj, are you sure you can view, read/write on this external hard drive when you are in windows?
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> 1 gb ram. N455 cpu (whatever those specs are) im just loking at the stickers on it. ;)
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> its about 2 yrs old
[03:50] <trfsrfr> I wish I could remember what problems I was having. seems I had 12.04 at one time, but it was awhile ago. I generally dont like to upgrade if something is working
[03:51] <smw94> review 13.10 please ~
[03:51] <nerdtron> xubuntu FTW...although this is not the xubuntu channel :)
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> been trying out luubntu and xubuntu lately. both have gotten very well done.
[03:52] <trfsrfr> the problem with linux is you have to be smart to really use it, but Ubuntu makes it easy and it just works, so the learning curve drops
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> you need to be smart to use windows also.. or else you end up doing really really stupid things. ;)
[03:53]  * Dr_Willis removed 12 toolbars from a perspns wndows box the other day
[03:53] <trfsrfr> lol, right. ive done that already too.
[03:53] <trfsrfr> really stupid things that is
[03:54] <dheeraj> yes
[03:54] <trfsrfr> every time I learn a new command for the terminal, I go off and start 'using' Ubuntu again, and I forget it all.
[03:54] <anon914> in linux you can destroy the system in a single command, the risk brings exitement to my life
[03:55] <dheeraj> firstly when i connected that i can find it on my home folder
[03:55] <researcher> When I try to run tor which was installed sing synaptic I get his message.Vidalia was unable to save your advanced setting.ControlSoket path does not exist.Any help please?
[03:55] <dheeraj> but now it is also not visible there
[03:55] <trfsrfr> I think I remember being able to do that in my basic programming days with my state of the art Commodor 64...
[03:55] <dheeraj> I did fdisk -l
[03:56] <dheeraj> and i found
[03:56] <researcher>  When I try to run tor  installed by synaptic I get this message.Vidalia was unable to save your advanced setting.ControlSoket path does not exist.Any help please?
[03:56] <dheeraj> nerdtron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082009/
[03:57] <anon914> researcher: the easier way to run tor is to download tor broser bundle from torproject.org
[03:57] <dheeraj> it is visible in fdisk -l
[03:57] <dheeraj> but could not mount it...
[03:59] <dheeraj> nerdtron: Are you there..???
[04:01] <nerdtron> dheeraj, fdisk -l doesn't show any ntfs partition?
[04:01] <researcher> anon914: Idid that also.But   when I double click the Start-tor-browser icon it displays file instead of executing it.Any help please?
[04:02] <dheeraj> nerdtron: I am confuse in type of my harddisk
[04:02] <dheeraj> what type do i use here..??
[04:02] <sblsdgfsd> this is old do you think it is still valid for 13.04? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1588889&p=9948061#post9948061
[04:02] <sblsdgfsd> talking about poppy audio
[04:03] <nerdtron> dheeraj, if windows can read and write on that drive it should be ntfs or fat32...but fdisk -l doesn't list it as it fat32 or ntfs..
[04:03] <nerdtron> dheeraj, try mount /dev/sdcX /path/mountpoint/
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> sblsdgfsd, if it references  13.04 maybe, but I see maverick on the first page.
[04:04] <anon914> researcher: you have to download the file, tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz, and then go to folder and click start tor browser
[04:04] <nerdtron> dheeraj, don't specify a type, ubuntu will try to automount it
[04:04] <anon914> researcher: did you do all that?
[04:04] <dheeraj> nerdtron:  okk let me try
[04:04] <dheeraj> do i use sdcX ..??
[04:04] <researcher> anon914: tryly not.retrying with proper understanding NOW
[04:05] <nerdtron> dheeraj, no, /dev/sdc1 for partition 1 /dev/sdc2 for patition 2... whichever partition you want to mount..
[04:05] <anon914> researcher: ok, it worked for me
[04:05] <mn3na3a> question: compiz crashes all the time and i dont know why any help ?
[04:05] <nerdtron> dheeraj, also try lsblk to see your partitions
[04:06] <dheeraj> nerdtron: ok ..
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> mn3na3a, Have you modified it?
[04:06] <mn3na3a> no
[04:06] <dheeraj> mount: you must specify the filesystem type getting this error
[04:06] <mn3na3a> clean installation just today
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> mn3na3a, what ubuntu release, and how does it crash?
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> done a update/upgrade to be sure everything is up to date?
[04:07] <nerdtron> dheeraj, do you have access to a windows machine? you should try to run check disk on that drive
[04:07] <mn3na3a> ubuntu 12.04.3 and when it crashes it's like unity is restarting but it hangs and dont start again
[04:08] <dheeraj> nerdtron:  no previously this disk was running my Suse OS
[04:09] <nerdtron> dheeraj, see.. it is running Suse and it is not NTFS.. are there anything important on that drive?
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> mn3na3a, you fully updated as asked?
[04:09] <mn3na3a> yes
[04:09] <sblsdgfsd> wilee-nilee: i can see a flash when it pops in my sound settings
[04:09] <sblsdgfsd> wilee-nilee: its like another sound element appears and disappears
[04:10] <dheeraj> nerdtron: yes.. i hav a lot of data on this disk ...
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> sblsdgfsd, Did I say I had an answer for you?
[04:10] <sblsdgfsd> wilee-nilee: you ok?
[04:10] <nerdtron> dheeraj, just to make it clear, so first the drive is NTFS, then you installed SUse on that dirve?
[04:11] <mn3na3a> wilee-nilee, what may cause unity or compiz to crash?
[04:11] <occ> my transmission torrent client isnt connecting to any peers... it says port is closed
[04:11] <occ> i havnt done any system or software updates since last week when it worked... is it my isp blocking the port?
[04:11] <c2tarun> occ, try deluge or some other client.
[04:12] <dheeraj> nerdtron:  I dont know about NTFS, it was in my previous laptop  where i work on SUSE.. and it crashed so i removed the harddisk and using it as a external harddrive
[04:12] <Cache_Money1> I'm using Ubuntu within VirtualBox and my right CTL button is designated for something other than CTL.  Is this probably a setting I need to deal with within VirtualBox?
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> mn3na3a, Hard to say, you might try resetting unity with unity --reset
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> Cache_Money1:  right ctrl - i belive  escapes from the vbox instance. (uncaptures the input)
[04:13] <c2tarun> Cache_Money1, I guess you have to manage with left control only, as right control is to free pointer from virtual box
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> mn3na3a, Any graphic drivers you have installed?
[04:14] <dheeraj> nerdtron: is there any way to determine the type of this hard disk..??
[04:14] <mn3na3a>  installed add. drivers
[04:14] <anon914> occ: check your router configuration, make sure to forward the ports used by transmision to your machine
[04:14] <nerdtron> dheeraj, ahh, now i get it...hhmmm can you open gparted and see the hard drive there? it will be listed
[04:15] <nerdtron> in gparted and the type of partition should be there also
[04:15] <Cache_Money1> Dr_Willis: I tried clicking the button but doesn't work.  Should I just delete it?  I 'escape' from vbox
[04:15] <dheeraj> gparted means..
[04:15] <Cache_Money1> http://imgur.com/mJXcldV
[04:16] <mn3na3a> wilee-nilee, syslog can help me when it crashes to know why it crashed?
[04:16] <crypticmofo> hi all .. whats a good $PATH to have in my .bashrc ?
[04:16] <nerdtron> dheeraj, !gparted
[04:16] <c2tarun> crypticmofo, can you please be less cryptic :)
[04:16] <crypticmofo> i currently only have /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[04:17] <nyl> http://meanwhileinrussia.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/russian-linux.jpg
[04:17] <nerdtron> dheeraj, gparted is a partition manager...install it from the software center
[04:17] <crypticmofo> c2tarun: you had to wait till i finished
[04:17] <crypticmofo> c2tarun: i want to add more places or stuff to my path where i can launch automatically
[04:17] <dheeraj> Okk
[04:17] <c2tarun> crypticmofo, my bad, but considering the traffic here try to finish in one go.
[04:17] <crypticmofo> i currently only have /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/game
[04:17] <crypticmofo> oops sorry getting used to the keyboard
[04:17] <crypticmofo> ctrl-k didn't work
[04:18] <crypticmofo> im assuming /usr/bin is fine ?
[04:19] <junktext> If anybody has ever had to completely fix their Steam client, could you help me as well?  Here is my issue (as clean reinstalls don't work):  https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/2833
[04:19] <c2tarun> crypticmofo, export PATH=/path/to/dir:$PATH
[04:19] <c2tarun> crypticmofo, restart your terminal
[04:20] <crypticmofo> c2tarun:  im trying to figure what that is
[04:20] <c2tarun> crypticmofo, what what is? Terminal? or the command I posted?
[04:20] <crypticmofo> c2tarun: the command you posted .. its not an acutal path correct ?
[04:21] <crypticmofo>  /path/to/dir ?
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  err.. its obviously an example ;)
[04:21] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis: yea im tring to get the real path
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> real path to what?
[04:22] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis: what you recommend as files that can be launched quickly all the /bin directors im assuming correct ?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  i basically use the standard path ubuntu has. and rarely need to mess with it
[04:22] <crypticmofo> got it
[04:23]  * c2tarun don't think that $PATH is for speedy opening of files.
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> anything speical i copy to or put a link in /home/myusername/bin
[04:23] <crypticmofo> Dr_Willis: im installing something right now and this is what it has in the INSTALL instuctions./configure --prefix=/foo/bar
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> $PATH is for bianrys you RUN
[04:23] <c2tarun> crypticmofo, before messing with $PATH i'll suggest you to under $PATH's purpose completely
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> crypticmofo:  thats not the same as the path at all.
[04:26] <crypticmofo> coo thanks all
[04:28]  * smw94 is afk
[04:33] <abaddon> Does anyone know how to manage the fan speed of a Radeon card from the open src drivers?
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  id check askubuntu.com - it might not be fully controllable
[04:38] <abaddon> Dr_Willis, checking it now
[04:41] <t4nk508> hi
[04:44] <Guest7122> The owner of /home/siva/.config/ibus/bus is not a root.....what is this erro msg...i am using sudo and entering password also..still it is warning me like am i not root
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> what are you running as root exactly? whats the exct command?
[04:46] <Alex_Murphy> Hi
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> moo
[04:53] <lgc> How normal is it for the CPU to reach around 95°C when playing a movie?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> seems a tad warm.
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> then again ive seen sensor report the wrong info also
[04:55] <Guest4958> mwahahaha
[04:55] <lgc> Dr_Willis: Temperature rises steadily to that level. Perhaps some peak is false info, but the rest of it seems plausible.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> check your fans.. make sure they are clear and dust free?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> also whats the video chipset and driver yu are using?
[04:57] <lgc> Yes, they (it) is clean, Dr_Willis.
[04:58] <lgc> When the movie ended the temperature dropped almost suddenly to around 60 degrees.
[05:00] <lgc> Dr_Willis: How do I find out?
[05:00] <smw94> anyone playing with WebIOpi ?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> see if that 'addational-drivers' tool/tab on the software-sources tool (in 12.10+ i think) reccomends any drivers
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> lspci    will show what your video card is also.
[05:03] <lgc> Dr_Willis: There's a bunch of info, but I only see "Intel".
[05:03] <varunendra> lgc, lspci | grep -iA2 vga
[05:04] <Cache_Money1> how do I open an image from the CLI?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Cache_Money1:  whateverimagevieweryouwant  imagename
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> i just cant think of any image viewers
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> i got 2 in my menus, called 'image viewer' how nice. ;)
[05:05] <varunendra> lgc, also, what is your cpu model and what was the video's resolution/codec? Older CPUs have to work too hard to play full HD h.264 codec videos.
[05:05] <lgc> varunendra: thanks. It's Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller. FWIW, Dr_Willis.
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> eye of gnome - is one .
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> eog foo.jpg
[05:06] <Cache_Money1> Dr_Willis: sweet
[05:06] <Cache_Money1> thanks
[05:06] <anon914> is it possible to view images in tty? (without x, or any graphical interface)
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  if you got an intel video chipset - then the intel drivers are normally all included. I watch videos on my netbook with very little issues on its little intel gpu/cpu
[05:06] <Cache_Money1> anon914: what's tty?
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> anon914:  with the framebuffer console. Yes. theres framebuffer image viewers
[05:07] <lgc> varunendra: T4500 Dual-Core @2.30GHz.
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> 'alt-ctrl-f1 through f6' are the consoles/ttys
[05:07] <varunendra> lgc, is the "Kernel driver in use" for video i915 or something else?
[05:07] <anon914> Cache_money: that thing that appears when you ctrl alt F1
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> theres also some svga/sdl image viewers i recall from ages ago.
[05:07] <lgc> varunendra: pardon?
[05:07] <Guest28585> so whats up d00ds. who here is all alive
[05:08] <varunendra> lgc, it should show up in the output of 'lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 vga' (sorry I forgot -nnk earlier).
[05:09] <lgc> varunendra: Kernel modules: i915.
[05:10] <Cache_Money1> when I run $ nohup eog filename.png it creates a blank file titled, "nohup.out".  How do I prevent this from happening?
[05:10] <varunendra> lgc, and the video resolution and codec? (you can find that with "ctrl+J" if playing on VLC)
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Cache_Money1:  why are you using nohup at all?
[05:10] <Guest28585> hallo hallo
[05:11] <Guest28585> ah haha. i didnt know i was in hacker chats
[05:11] <Cache_Money1> Dr_Willis: I don't like opening something from the terminal and when I close that tab it closes the program I opened
[05:11] <black_> do you guys have any warez
[05:11] <black_> such as virii
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> Cache_Money1:  use command &,   perhaps?
[05:11] <Cache_Money1> what's the syntax?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Cache_Money1:  and get used to useing the 'exit' command to close shells. not the  close button
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> err.. syntax is ---->    commandname &
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> bash job controll
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> or ctrl-z and 'bg' to move it to the background and run it
[05:12] <lgc> varunendra: CTRL-J in VLC (info about "muxor" and codecs) is empty.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> if you forget the &
[05:12] <anon914> i think that is commandname& (without space)
[05:13] <Cache_Money1> Dr_Wills: Thanks.  What exactly is the difference between nohup and '&'
[05:13] <Cache_Money1> ?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall using nohup anytime in the last fewe years..
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> unless i was running somtning, then logging out
[05:15] <varunendra> lgc, when playing the video on VLC, try "Tools > Codec Info" from the menu to get the codec info. Or tell us directly if you know already.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> http://www.unix.com/solaris/13924-whats-difference-nuhup-cmds-vs-cmds.html
[05:16] <lgc> Dr_Willis, Cache_Money1, nohup is a way to leave processes unattended and independent of the terminal. Therefore you can log out and the process keeps running, sending all its output to nohup.out.
[05:17] <lgc> You can also use 2>1 >/dev/null & if you want to supress exit and send the process to the background.
[05:18] <Mahmoud> how to get ubuntu for android?
[05:18] <lgc> (Sorry, its 2>&1) .
[05:19] <anon914> Mahmoud: get an iphone, it just works
[05:19] <zykotick9> Cache_Money1: if you are asking about nohup and &, i'd highly suggest you look into screen and tmux...
[05:19] <Mahmoud> anon914: do not troll.
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> !touch | Mahmoud
[05:20] <Mahmoud> is that called ubuntu touch?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Mahmoud:  theres the various run ubuntu in a vm/vnc type session also  for android
[05:20] <Mahmoud> i'm lost. i guess vm/vnc is not recommended except for testing?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> You can get Ubuntu going on your Nexus7 and 4 i think fairly easly
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Mahmoud:  its all in testing
[05:21] <Mahmoud> i have a htc. i guess even testing won't work
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> the vm stuff has been aroun for ages. It runs ubuntu in a emulator (i think) in thebackground on your phone
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> I dont mess with the stuff..  dont really have much of a need for ubuntu on my phone or tablet
[05:23] <lgc> varunendra: nothing seems to happen. It just won't give any info about codecs. Any other way, perhaps?
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> vlc has some media info in its menus. 'file thevideofile' may also give some info
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> right click on it in file manager and check the properties also. one of th etabs may tell stuff
[05:24] <varunendra> lgc, my favourite way to get codec info is "MediaInfo GUI" (apt-get install mediainfo-gui). :)
[05:25] <lgc> Dr_Willis: that brings me back to CTRL-J, which gives no info either.
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> !info mediainfo-gui
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  what brings you back to ctrl-j ?
[05:26] <scrapcode> Hello all! I just switched from Mint to a fresh install of Ubuntu 12. I have a broadcom wireless card (ew, yes, I know.) I installed the b43fwcutter from the install CD and the drivers via a CD I had made. Everything worked fine. Ubuntu installed some "Additional Drivers" once it had connectivity and it broke my wireless. Where are the "Additional Drivers" installed so that I can uninstall them, since everything worked properly manually?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> right click , properties, audio/video tab here - gives a lot of info
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> You can use the addational-driver tool/gui to enable/disable the drivers
[05:27] <fengshaun> hi all, I'm trying to change gnome 3's theme with gnome-tweak-tool.  The gtk3 theme changes fine, but mutter stays the same
[05:27] <fengshaun> how can I change mutter's theme too
[05:27] <lgc> Dr_Willis: You mean in VLC? There's no "Properties" menu.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> its in the last tab on the 'software-sources'
[05:27] <varunendra> scrapcode, please show us the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  on the FILE MANAGER. i rught click on a video file, and properties
[05:27] <yap> fellas, after an update a month ago or so my keyboard layout properties (like key shortcuts) are not remembered from session to session. I am on xubuntu, but nobody seems to be able to help there. Anything I can do to fix that?
[05:28] <yap> To fix layout thing, not people not being able to help :)
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  shows the same info on my video as the ctrl-j thing in vlc
[05:28] <lgc> Oh, Dr_Willis .
[05:28] <scrapcode> varunendra: I can't I don't have a connection on that box… Shows the Wireless pan controller… Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
[05:28] <scrapcode> WAN* not pan.
[05:29] <varunendra> scrapcode, what are the numbers in the big bracket in the first line ? (something like "[168c:002b]")
[05:29] <lgc> Dr_Willis: No, it only says "File system type: udf". Along with the usual info.
[05:30] <scrapcode> The driver I installed manually worked just fine. "Additional Drivers" shows that the driver is not activated, but it most definitely messed everything up. I just want to clean it out. I can reinstall what I have manually.
[05:30] <scrapcode> [14e4:4320]
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  udf? thats a cd/dvd iso image?
[05:31] <mojtaba> Hi, Could you please let me know how can I check what graphic card can I use with a known motherboard?
[05:31] <lgc> Dr_Willis: indeed.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  you want to know what card to Buy for a given mb?
[05:31] <varunendra> scrapcode, try "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source"... let it finish, then "sudo modprobe b43"
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  vlc can play dvd iso images
[05:31] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: Yes
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  i do it all the time. ;)
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  perhaps ask in #hardware
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  determine the connector on your MB. and how much powar tops th video card can be. :)   and start looking at the store i guess.
[05:32] <Legitsu> childern http://xkcd.com/927/
[05:33] <scrapcode> varunendra: wtf… I didn't even have to mod probe. During that process it notified me "Connection established." What exactly happened there, if you don't mind? Thanks a lot, sir.
[05:34] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: The only things which I check are connectors and power?
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  i cant think of anythign eles that has ever been imporntant. excet of course.. will it fit in the case. :)
[05:34] <anon914> yap: seems like no one knows, just apply the good old windows method: format and reinstall
[05:35] <varunendra> scrapcode, the proprietary driver (wl or bcmwl) blacklists the b43 driver, preventing it from loading to avoid conflict. It seems its installation didn't finish properly, but its settings still conflicted somehow.
[05:35] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: I have joined to ##hardware, but it says cannot send to channel, when I post someting.
[05:35] <mojtaba> something*
[05:35] <varunendra> scrapcode, b43 is the best driver for your card. Don't even try the "Additional Driver" for it.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  you need to register/identify to the services perhaps
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> !register
[05:36] <scrapcode> varunendra: ah, makes sense. What I think happened was, when it tried installing itself, or what not, it interfered with the manual driver, which shutoff connection, which corrupted installation. Appreciate the help
[05:36] <scrapcode> Thanks a ton.
[05:36] <varunendra> Welcome :)
[05:36] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[05:37] <lgc> Dr_Willis: varunendra I already installed mediainfo-gui. What's next?
[05:38] <lgc> (By the way, VLC is making my computer run hotter than the other player (the default one, I don't know if it's totem).
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> mediainfo-gui shows the exact same info for me as vlc and properties
[05:38] <varunendra> lgc, it may not be able to directly handle the iso. You may have to mount it first > then open mediainfo-gui from menu and open the containing video file in it.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> vlc has differnt video rendering options.  some may work better for you
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> its an ISO file containing avi/mp4/other video files?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> or is it a actual DVD movie image
[05:39] <reisio> udf is a data filesystem
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[05:40] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, try the "Tree" or other views in MediaInfo-GUI, it shows a loooot more info than ctrl-J in vlc :)
[05:40] <varunendra> perhaps everything.
[05:40] <lgc> Dr_Willis: It's a DVD.
[05:40] <varunendra> lgc, with VOB files in it?
[05:40] <reisio> DVD is a physical medium, not a format :)
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> mplayer can also play dvd iso files i recall
[05:40] <reisio> yes, mplayer :)
[05:40] <reisio> mplayer dvd://
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> I got some Home-theater box that runs linux. and it can play ISO files also. :) made it easy for me to archive dvds for the wife for her to watch.. no disk changeing needed
[05:42] <lgc> varunendra: lots of VOB files.
[05:43] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what is gailwindow?
[05:43] <reisio> Dr_Willis: disk change?
[05:43] <varunendra> lgc, drag and drop any of the larger ones into mediainfo window. See if it shows any info in the normal view.
[05:44] <reisio> mojtaba: something to do with GNOME's accessibility GUI stuff
[05:45] <mojtaba> reisio: I executed libreoffice via command line to open a file and it gave me: ** (soffice:24391): WARNING **: Unknown type: GailWindow
[05:45] <lgc> varunendra: what info do you want from Mediainfo?
[05:45] <reisio> mojtaba: warnings can almost always be ignored
[05:45] <mojtaba> reisio: Do you know what is that for?
[05:46] <varunendra> lgc, codec (mpeg 1 most probably) and video bitrate.
[05:46] <reisio> mojtaba: didn't I just say?
[05:46] <reisio> lgc: what're you guys up to?
[05:46] <varunendra> lgc, for bit rate, you may have to change the view to "Text" in the menu.
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  yep. she could access all 32 of her little house on the prarrie dvd's via the box and the network/fileserver ;)
[05:47] <reisio> Dr_Willis: oh right, heh
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> took me over a Month to rip them all to the fileserver
[05:47] <varunendra> reisio, his lappy's cpu jumps to 90c when playing that video. I suspected h264, but even a high bitrate vob seems too much for his old cpu.
[05:48] <Chaosweaver> sudo wtb help plz
[05:48] <reisio> ah, maybe his DVD drive is just awful
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Chaosweaver:  give details
[05:48] <reisio> I don't know about 90°, but in general using a DVD drive is a lot of work
[05:49] <reisio> part of why they're gone from netbooks
[05:49] <lgc> varunendra: MPEG-PS.
[05:49] <reisio> Dr_Willis: yeah I'm about to get into that
[05:49] <varunendra> reisio, unless i missed a msg, it was an iso
[05:49] <Chaosweaver> doc: hai; ubuntu+kubuntu+xubuntu+mint run terribly slow from 3 diff hdd installs but all run lightning fast from usb stick
[05:49] <varunendra> lgc, any info about resolution and bitrate?
[05:50] <Chaosweaver> 3 diff hdd installs = 3 diff physical hdds
[05:50] <reisio> Chaosweaver: same mobo?
[05:50] <Chaosweaver> yes
[05:50] <reisio> that'd be my suspect, then
[05:50] <reisio> or all your hdds are slow and awful
[05:50] <Chaosweaver> win 7, win 8 = lightning fast
[05:50] <reisio> which isn't impossible
[05:50] <Chaosweaver> fedora = lightning fast
[05:50] <reisio> oh?
[05:50] <reisio> okay then ;)
[05:50] <Chaosweaver> only debian distros are slow somehow.  i dont get it
[05:51] <reisio> maybe you're missing a driver or two
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> or some odd kernel bug/quirk
[05:51] <lgc> varunendra: 13 Mbps 720*480, 29.98 fps MPEG Video (NTSC) (Version2).
[05:51] <reisio> yeah you could have too much as well
[05:51] <Chaosweaver> thats what ive been trying to research, but i have no idea how to find out which could be the culprit
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> got a kernel bug right now with some of my external usb3 hds.. makes them real slow. ;(
[05:51] <reisio> lgc: means it's real small and undemanding, as a format
[05:52] <yap> anon914, funny )
[05:52] <reisio> Chaosweaver: you could diff the fedora and ubuntu kernel configs
[05:52] <lgc> reisio: Huh?
[05:52] <reisio> lgc: ?
[05:52] <lgc> reisio: so, there's trouble.
[05:52] <Chaosweaver> reisio: losing me.  first jump into linux = 1 week ago
[05:52] <varunendra> lgc, the resolution is okay, but the bitrate is too high to process for your CPU, so I guess it's just the bitrate keeping your CPU on toes, case closed ;)
[05:52] <Chaosweaver> diff the fedora + ubuntu?
[05:53] <lgc> varunendra: Is there a way to trim that?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> Chaosweaver:  like the differance tween a  Chrysler and a  Nissan ;)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> all sorts of differances under the hood
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> but at first glance they may appear almost identical
[05:54] <varunendra> lgc, I'm afraid not, unless you are willing to transcode it to another format, with lower bitrate which will cause some quality loss.
[05:54] <Chaosweaver> ya i know fedora is the red had side of things, but i want to figure out whats giving me the issues on the debian side.  if someone could point me in the right direction as to how to troubleshoot
[05:54] <Chaosweaver> red hat
[05:54] <lgc> Dr_Willis: In my country Nissans have better reputation. ;) .
[05:54] <reisio> Chaosweaver: kernels are built based on configurations
[05:54] <xedef> hey guys i had a question
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Chaosweaver:  i would guess some kernel differances
[05:54] <reisio> Chaosweaver: which are plain text files you can easily use the 'diff' command to get the differences between
[05:54] <lgc> varunendra: I see.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> lgc:  i work for chrysler. ;)
[05:54] <Chaosweaver> ahhh so "diff" is a command.  gotcha
[05:54] <reisio> Chaosweaver: it wouldn't take very long to modify an Ubuntu kernel config to be slowly more like a Fedora one, eventually determining which parts mattered
[05:54] <lgc> Dr_Willis: No hurt feelings ;) .
[05:55] <reisio> Chaosweaver: but what you might want to do instead, for the interim at least, is just use Fedora's kernel
[05:55] <reisio> Chaosweaver: or you could use Fedora with Unity, probably
[05:55] <reisio> or Fedora with GNOME 3, or just Fedora with something :p
[05:55] <Chaosweaver> ahhh, but my problem with that is i already started learning lots of debian commands
[05:56] <Chaosweaver> i was so disappointed when i tried to dpkg -i on fedora today :(
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Chaosweaver:  'debian commands' ? bash is bash. ;)
[05:56] <administrator> rpm -i
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> package managment is about the only major differance in the big disrtos
[05:56] <Guest65619> ^
[05:56] <reisio> Chaosweaver: you can use Fedora's kernel without changing anything else
[05:57] <reisio> Chaosweaver: just put it in /boot/ and tell GRUB about it
[05:57] <reisio> it'll probably be a kernel and an initramfs
[05:57] <lgc> Dr_Willis, varunendra, thanks a lot!
[05:58] <varunendra> pleasure lgc :)
[05:58] <reisio> varunendra: is 13mbps high?
[05:58] <reisio> lgc: transcoding needn't cause any quality loss that you'd notice (or at all, but you don't want that)
[05:59] <reisio> it does take time, though
[05:59] <varunendra> reisio for a 2010 Dual Core laptop processor, yes.
[05:59] <Chaosweaver> hmmm is there any difference in the amt of software available for debian/RH flavored linux
[05:59] <reisio> varunendra: is it high for a dvd video?
[05:59] <reisio> Chaosweaver: not any that matters
[05:59] <Chaosweaver> nice
[05:59] <reisio> all the big distros have about 20,000 more packages than you'll ever use
[06:00] <Chaosweaver> okay.  i heard "learn gentoo, learn them all"  - is that true?
[06:00] <tozen> Chaosweaver: what 4 to learn? Much better to have text file or printed folder, pal ;)
[06:00] <varunendra> reisio, not nearly as high as it would mean for h264, but yes close to xvid.
[06:00] <reisio> Chaosweaver: not exactly
[06:00] <reisio> Chaosweaver: you would theoretically learn more about many things each distro shares, but
[06:00] <reisio> Chaosweaver: you would only learn about Gentoo's package management
[06:00] <reisio> Chaosweaver: and package management is the most important bit to learn
[06:00] <reisio> for any particular distro
[06:01] <reisio> if you wanted to learn the most, you'd want to do an LFS, but that's somewhat of a commitment, and it still wouldn't teach you about each distro's package manager
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> 'know your enemy' ;)
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> LFS teaches you how to read/cut/paste and  compile...
[06:01] <reisio> once you know the basic ideas behind package management, and have them mastered for one distro, it's easier to use any other distro
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> and wait.
[06:02] <Chaosweaver> i see
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> theres a lot of unusual disrtos out there.. LFS is at one branch of the tree. Things like Puppylinux, tinycore  are at a differnt end. and then ubuntu and so forth are more of a main branch ;)
[06:03] <Chaosweaver> whats a more cli driven distro?
[06:03] <reisio> because you can ask yourself or the internet "how do I do FOO from distro BAR... instead with distro BAZ?"
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> they all have cli support. so its rather moot Chaosweaver
[06:04] <Chaosweaver> so dr willis, what u are saying, its that they are all hax and its simply up to my personal pref which one i think is prettiest if my hardware is good enough for their guis
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> even the guis are  normally the same 'program' just with differnt configurations.
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu has Unity - which is a Ubuntu 'creation' ;) but gnome shell on all the distros should be almost the same
[06:05] <reisio> you can install Unity on any distro, too
[06:06] <reisio> LFS is actually a process, not really a distro
[06:06] <reisio> though it _has_ its own distros, which confuses things
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> well 'any' may be a bit broad. ;) but - installing it.. and having it work well - are 2 very differnt things
[06:06] <reisio> it might be involved to install it on some distros :)
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> i recall reading the LFS docs and starting to try it.. but finished the docs.. and decided i had learned enough. dident need to installit.
[06:07] <reisio> rm is the best package manager
[06:09] <Chaosweaver> so from as far back as i can remember (dos 3.30), ive always had to install a driver for most stuffs or it just didnt work.  and it was always very easy to find out if i had a driver issue b/c stuff just didnt work.  in windows i go to device manager and i can see a hardware id, driver, or unknown device.  in linux it all seems to be hidden somewhere.  how can i find what drivers are being used
[06:09] <Chaosweaver> and if there is an issue?
[06:09] <reisio> Chaosweaver: well you already know there's an issue
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> i rarely even need to worry about drivers in linux. except for video card and wireless. and even then  - often i rarely have to even touch wireless ;P
[06:09] <reisio> Chaosweaver: you could compare the Fedora and Ubuntu outputs of lspci -k
[06:10] <reisio> Chaosweaver: or the outputs of 'lsmod'
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> some times i dont even need to mess with video drivers
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> just because theres no 'gui' tool to show info - dosent make it hidden. things are MUCH more hidden in windows then in linux i find.
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Ive definatly had windows say 'please insert the disk with the driver for  "wireless pci network card" '
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> how nice and exacting. :P
[06:11] <xro> Hi, i have trouble with empathy and facebook account.... I always get the message "facebook account requires authorisation"... I already add "<setting name="AllowedSchemes" type="as">['https','http']</setting>" into the facebook.provider file... do you know this problem?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> lspci is a handy command.   as is 'hwinfo'
[06:12] <Chaosweaver> yes yes this is what i want,  im writing these cmds in text edit
[06:12] <Chaosweaver> is there a general linux cmdlist?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> on my netbook for example. I install linux..and well it gets everything. ;)  no need for me to install anything else.
[06:13] <Chaosweaver> im in windows 8 right now and it does the same.  the diff is i know how to see everything i wanna see about drivers in windows.  i want the same for linux
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Chaosweaver:  look for bash tutorials and guides.
[06:13] <Chaosweaver> ok bash guides
[06:13] <mojtaba> Does ATI graphic card have drivers for ubuntu? (latest ones)
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> ive seen big printed books of linux commands years ago. :) found them in the garrage today
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  ati drivers tend to lag behind their windows driver counterparts.
[06:14] <Chaosweaver> o god help lol.  i dont need stuff like ver or scandisk
[06:14] <aeon-ltd> !bash
[06:15] <aeon-ltd> Chaosweaver: like that?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> its always handy when you rember a bash command that does some task you are trying to do. ;)
[06:15] <Chaosweaver> idk, ill try it and get back to u b/c i dont know that one ye tlol
[06:15] <yap> guys, does anyone at least know where xubuntu (or ubuntu) stores settings for keyboard layout properties?
[06:15] <Chaosweaver> while we are on it.  i noticed "dir" works in terminal.  whats the diff between dir and ls
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> Chaosweaver:  look at the output and man pages and see.
[06:16] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: Do you know what is the latest one? I mean which series have the latest driver?
[06:16] <reisio> mojtaba: 'latest' is ambiguous
[06:16] <mojtaba> reisio: I mean at the moment
[06:16] <reisio> Chaosweaver: apropos and whatis and man commands will help with that
[06:16] <reisio> mojtaba: what about the moment?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> someone jsut made a dir command to help the dos addicts i imagine
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  i dont use ati at all.
[06:16] <reisio> yap: undoubtedly in ~/.config
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> welli got ONE ati box. ;0 but it uses the opens ourced drivers
[06:16] <reisio> yap: although ordinary Ubuntu, using GNOME, might use ~/.gnome-something
[06:16] <Chaosweaver> hmm, ok whats the diff between "man command" and "command --help"
[06:16] <yap> reisio, thx will look
[06:17] <reisio> Chaosweaver: man command opens the man(ual) page for that command
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Chaosweaver:  one shows the man page.. other is the programs built in help
[06:17] <reisio> Chaosweaver: command --help runs the command, and if that executable was given a help output, it outputs that
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> not all commands have good --help
[06:17] <mojtaba> reisio: What is the latest drivers of the ATI at the moment? I mean it is for which models? or which models still does not have linux driver?
[06:17] <reisio> and not all have good man pages :)
[06:17] <reisio> heheh
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> dir --help seems rathe verbose
[06:17] <reisio> also not all of them have --help, -help, or -h
[06:17] <reisio> sometimes only one or two
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> sometimes the -h and man page show the same text ;)
[06:18] <reisio> indeed
[06:18] <reisio> some programmers don't put much thought into it :p
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> or you get totally useless help that says 'use -h for help' ;P
[06:18] <Chaosweaver> ./facepalm
[06:18] <reisio> there's also info instead of man, which almost nobody cares about
[06:18] <reisio> Dr_Willis: yeah :p
[06:18] <reisio> but for the most part
[06:19] <reisio> -h is generally intended to be more concise
[06:19] <reisio> straight to the point
[06:19] <reisio> and man comprehensive
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> i love it wheni look at 'sshfs --help' and  the info i want is at the top of the 20 pages of text it prints out
[06:19] <reisio> yeah...
[06:19] <Chaosweaver> now i do know what u mean by that
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> sshfs --help | less
[06:19] <reisio> if it's more than 24 rows, I say the author has failed :p
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> ;) is handty trick
[06:19] <phix> Yeah that is the main issues with linux / unix application, the level of documentation available, in particular, for end users.
[06:19] <reisio> more than 23, really :p
[06:20] <reisio> phix: hrmm?
[06:20] <keplr> Ubuntu man page for ftp is from BSD.
[06:20] <Chaosweaver> that or the author had a 40'' wide lcd pivoted vertically when they wrote the help info
[06:20]  * reisio shrugs
[06:20] <reisio> it's nice they type up the help at all, heh
[06:20] <reisio> ffmpeg had a useless man page for ages
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> at least they dont expect you to be viewing the 'help docs' in notepad.exe with word wrap turned onor off. ;P
[06:20] <reisio> and a half useful but massively verbose -h
[06:20] <phix> reisio: yeah you need to have a computer science degree and a good understanding of Linux to decipher the man files usually, and alot do not include examples.
[06:21] <reisio> phix: nonsense
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> man ffmpeg = 4732 lines
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[06:21] <reisio> you need to have a decent grasp of English
[06:21] <phix> reisio: No point in creating an application if no one can use it
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> oh yea..dont forget that --help and -h are not always the same. ;P
[06:21] <reisio> well it's true there's no point worrying about people who can't read
[06:21] <aeon-ltd> i find that wikis are a lot more quick to the point
[06:21] <reisio> right, wiki's aren't usually meant to be exhaustive, man pages are
[06:21] <reisio> that's why raptor gebus invented search
[06:22] <phix> reisio: Incorrect, alot of man files require knowing the subject material first
[06:22] <reisio> phix: you want to use something without knowing anything about it?
[06:22] <Chaosweaver> god this is tempting me to just go on w/ win8 powershell.  at least i will already be able to recogize+ignore the repackaged redundancy and learn its utility instead of starting from scratch.  yes im depressed
[06:22] <reisio> magic button that reads your mind?
[06:22] <reisio> no OS does that :p
[06:22] <joakimk> Using Ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell laptop. Every time I boot up, I connect to wireless but with no internet access. I have to toggle the wifi hardware switch, then reconnect to wifi which only then actually gets net access... Any idea why this happens?
[06:23] <reisio> Chaosweaver: http://classicshell.sf.net/
[06:23] <reisio> Chaosweaver: but using Windows is a mistake e:p
[06:23] <phix> reisio: well that is the purpose of documentation, to explain how to use it, when and when not to and provide examples, not all man files are properly written
[06:23] <reisio> phix: indeed not, but most are :)
[06:24] <phix> Alot of man file require assumed knowlegde
[06:24] <phix> knowledge*
[06:24] <reisio> for example?
[06:24] <Chaosweaver> reisio, trust me.  i have witnessed the godliness of linux and i have much respect for it.  im just a hc gamer and beyond blizzard games, i have no option other than windows
[06:25] <phix> well, the assumption you even know what the man file is called :P  or where man files live for starters
[06:25] <Chaosweaver> if i worked w/ office apps and dev only, i would only know penguin
[06:25] <reisio> Chaosweaver: nah, many of them run via Wine, some purportedly better
[06:25] <phix> Of course there is apropos but still
[06:25] <reisio> so you don't have an example
[06:26] <Chaosweaver> thats what i mean, blizz stuff runs grate on wine but i dont like having to resort to opengl when i want dx11 prettiness
[06:26] <reisio> Chaosweaver: they appear differently?
[06:26] <Chaosweaver> and and and, as a side note, im still mad that 3dfx didnt support 32bit color on their voodoo2k+ series and died b/c of it
[06:26] <Chaosweaver> yes
[06:26] <reisio> ohwell :p
[06:27] <reisio> a number of semi-sane people use dual installations of Windows for gaming and Unix for seriousness
[06:27] <reisio> with modern hardware you can theoretically give a virtual machine full hardware access
[06:27] <Chaosweaver> but im a serious gamer
[06:27] <reisio> and all this will become academic
[06:27] <reisio> Chaosweaver: seriousness that isn't to do with gaming, then :p
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> problem with that - is whenyou boot to windows after NOT booting to windows for 6 mo.. and want to play a game.. theres always like 12+ hrs of Updates to download and 3+ reboots it seems...
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[06:27] <Chaosweaver> lol
[06:28] <Chaosweaver> yes thats true
[06:28] <aeon-ltd> oh the day when people start saying "why the hell are you using dual boot?"
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> 'serious gamer'  -  wow. would be a 'serious drinker' be  good thing? :) how about a 'serious daytime tv soap opera watcher' ;)
[06:28] <reisio> aeon-ltd: come and gone :p
[06:29] <Chaosweaver> just like the fact that i havent been on irc since 2001 in my glory days of warez and tonite irc is as bawse as it ever ways
[06:29] <Chaosweaver> actually i just finished 3 beers
[06:29] <occ> chaos is a ladder
[06:29] <varunendra> joakimk, please follow this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385 and use the "Alternate wireless_script" at the bottom of the post.
[06:29] <Chaosweaver> speaking of ladders, anyone remember Case's Ladder?  kali.net?
[06:30] <ikonia> Chaosweaver: please try to stick to the ubuntu support discusion topic in this channel.
[06:31] <Chaosweaver> yes ikonia.  well dr willis + reisio: u guys have been completely awesome.  im going to continue my journey w/ fedora and perhaps we will speak again
[06:31] <Chaosweaver> thank you guys VERY much
[06:31] <varunendra> joakimk, this is the script that you have to use with the instructions in the above post : http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qjc87hzk1z5x6z0/wireless_script
[06:32] <occ> jacobs ladder
[06:33] <joakimk> varunendra: ok.. thanks! I'll have a closer look at the forum post. The script seems rather comprehensive, though... Is it a run-once fix, or something to run every day?
[06:33] <varunendra> joakimk, it will only generate a detailed report. We can get many clues from it.
[06:33] <reisio> Chaosweaver: adios
[06:33] <rigved> hi everyone. my ubuntu one sync has stopped working. it is stuck on status "LOCAL_RESCAN". can someone help?
[06:33] <joakimk> varunendra: oh, I see!
[06:34] <varunendra> joakimk, use pastebin to post the report it generates.
[06:34] <rigved> i am running 12.04
[06:34] <reisio> rigved: ordinarily I'd say kill the process and try again
[06:34] <keplr> Isn't 12.04 the LTS? When does support end for that?
[06:34] <grendal-prime> kinda a werid one.. grub-pc borked on upgrade..so i removed it like aptitude suggested.
[06:35] <grendal-prime> now i reinstall it and it asks where do you want to put it..on vda or vda1
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> aptitude?  thats odd
[06:35] <rigved> reisio: i have tried "u1sdtool --quit" and "u1sdtool --connect". but still no luck. it gets stuck again on the "local_rescan".
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> you dould want it on the mbr of the drive you are booting grendal-prime
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> ie:  sda   NOT sda1
[06:35] <reisio> rigved: does that actually stop the process?
[06:36] <grendal-prime> thats what i thought...
[06:36] <grendal-prime> but i wanted to make sure.
[06:36] <reisio> grendal-prime: you can check where it is already
[06:36] <reisio> with...
[06:36] <grendal-prime> it says i can put it on both but then it would have to impliment some sort of blocking...thing.
[06:36] <rigved> reisio: it says syncdaemon stoppped when i run it, so i am assuming that it does. should i try actually killing the process?
[06:36] <turbulence> hey there
[06:37] <grendal-prime> reisio...ya i was trying to do that be getting nowhwere
[06:37] <turbulence> i had a question about ubuntu linux
[06:37] <turbulence> is anybody here?
[06:37] <grendal-prime> only 1600 of us dude
[06:37] <reisio> grendal-prime: dd if=/dev/sda count=1 bs=512 | file -
[06:37] <reisio> for example
[06:37] <turbulence> what's the difference between a baby and an apple?  You don't CUM in an apple before you EAT IT!
[06:37] <turbulence> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[06:37] <turbulence> what's the difference between a baby and an apple?  You don't CUM in an apple before you EAT IT!
[06:37] <turbulence> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[06:37] <turbulence> what's the difference between a baby and an apple?  You don't CUM in an apple before you EAT IT!
[06:37] <FloodBot1> turbulence: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:37] <turbulence> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[06:37] <reisio> rigved: you should try confirming it has stopped, with pgrep -l or ps aux | grep foo
[06:37] <reisio> rigved: if it hasn't, yes kill it
[06:38] <rigved> reisio: ok. checking.
[06:38] <grendal-prime> reisio, was that for me?
[06:38] <joakimk> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082324/
[06:38] <reisio> grendal-prime: the bit preceded by your nick?
[06:38] <grendal-prime> how is that supposed to check where grub is installed
[06:38] <joakimk> varunendra: :)
[06:39] <reisio> grendal-prime: if it says grand unified bootloader, then grub is there
[06:39] <reisio> grendal-prime: though for thoroughness you should check sda and sda1 both, because it's not impossible for it to be in both places
[06:39] <varunendra> joakimk, that has been a problematic driver lately (the one you have). Taking a close look..
[06:39] <reisio> or vda/1, as required
[06:39] <grendal-prime> i dont put anything after the file -  ...dd  like the partion copying prog?
[06:40] <reisio> grendal-prime: - means stdin (for programs stupid enough to not just accept stdin by default)
[06:40] <joakimk> varunendra: iwlwifi?
[06:40] <reisio> grendal-prime: yup, it's quite safe without using of=
[06:40]  * Alex_Murphy is away: we still being the digital resistance, hard as rock and cold as ice!
[06:40] <reisio> and also with using of=, if you're simply careful ;)
[06:41] <varunendra> joakimk, yes. But how did you run the script? With 'sh' ? It is incomplete. Please run it without sh (or with bash if you have to)
[06:41] <rigved> reisio: yes, "u1sdtool --quit" does stop the syncdaemon. checked using "ps aux | grep ubuntuone". then i ran "u1sdtool --connect" and the syncdaemon stated working again.
[06:41]  * Alex_Murphy is back (gone 00:00:56)
[06:41] <grendal-prime> says it copied something
[06:41] <reisio> rigved: and ubuntuone would actually return it if it were running?
[06:41] <rigved> reisio: but the syncing is still not working
[06:42] <grendal-prime> i dont see any mention of grub though
[06:42] <joakimk> varunendra: oh, sorry :) I did run it with sh.
[06:42] <reisio> grendal-prime: try the other possible devices/partitions, then
[06:42] <varunendra> joakimk, I know. We noticed that issue with sh ;)
[06:42] <grendal-prime> well this is what i got.
[06:42] <grendal-prime> dev/stdin: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, active, starthead 32, startsector 2048, 15955968 sectors; partition 2: ID=0x5, starthead 119, startsector 15960062, 815106 sectors, code offset 0x63
[06:43] <joakimk> varunendra: I now got a tar.gz archive... What do I do then?
[06:43] <grendal-prime> if i try vda1 i dont get that..just couple...thanks
[06:43] <reisio> grendal-prime: pretty sure it'll say grand unified bootloader if you're using grub and grub is there
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> 'vda1' ? is that a typo? or some really weird device
[06:43] <varunendra> joakimk, well.. extract the txt file from it then... then paste its contents.
[06:43] <grendal-prime> virtual drive
[06:43] <reisio> used for lvm, isn't it?
[06:43] <reisio> I don't keep track
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> and what sort of system is this on?
[06:43] <rigved> reisio: i can see this error message in the logs: ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.local_rescan - ERROR - in the scan: <type 'exceptions.KeyError'>
[06:44] <joakimk> varunendra: but the script says the file is larger than allowed for Ubuntu Forums
[06:44] <grendal-prime> kvm guest
[06:44] <reisio> rigved: then you have something to search for
[06:44] <grendal-prime> its a 10.04 web server im upgrading.
[06:44] <varunendra> joakimk, yes, for UF. But I think pastebin should be able to handle the size.
[06:45] <joakimk> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082337/
[06:46]  * Alex_Murphy is away: AFK 
[06:47] <varunendra> joakimk, while I'm taking a look, please also post the output of - "grep -iR [0-9a-z] /sys/module/iwlwifi/parameters"
[06:48] <joakimk> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082343/ :-)
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Someone care to check on somthing ith handbreak?  In windows im SURE i can drag/drop a folder onto the Handbreak 'source' button/area  and it loads the whole directory. but I cant repeate this  on linux/ubuntu - anyone else noticed this annoying  issue? know of an easier way to get handbreak to load all teh files in a directory? ;)
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> there we go.. the file load let me do it. ;) but i sware this was not working for me either last week.
[06:51] <reisio> Dr_Willis: find dir/ -type f -exec ffmpeg...
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  but im using handbreak. :)   not fighting with ffmpeg for the wifes videos.
[06:52] <varunendra> joakimk, the dmesg part of your output is interesting, but I'm not good enough to interpret it all. Does the connection speed remain good once you are connected? Do you get the N-channel speeds?
[06:52] <Adm_less> Anybody knows why the quassel display connect time out
[06:52] <reisio> Dr_Willis: fighting?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> ive definatly been fighting with ffmpeg and winff over the last few months
[06:53] <joakimk> varunendra: oh... well, I think the remains ok. Not sure what the N-channel speeds would mean
[06:53] <rigved> reisio: i did search online for this error message but could not find anything that would help me solve the issue.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> handbreak also has an 'animation' preset that seems to make much smaller encoded videos for my anime fix. ;P
[06:54] <varunendra> joakimk, the average throughput being above 54Mbps - means you get the benefit of N-channel
[06:54] <rigved> reisio: i have raised a ticket with ubuntu one support. let's see if that helps. otherwise will raise a bug report.
[06:54] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I'm sure that preset is in a plain text file, and could come after 'ffmpeg ' :p
[06:54] <reisio> Dr_Willis: what all are you trying to accomplish?
[06:54] <reisio> rigved: yeah, sorry I just don't know much about it
[06:54] <reisio> rigved: I do know that google drive offers 10GB more
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  setting up about 20 videos to get reencoded from webm to mp4 for the wife to watch tomorrow. ;)
[06:54] <reisio> rigved: and there's an app called grive you can use, among other things
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> most of my stuff i keep in webm
[06:54] <rigved> reisio: np. thanks your helps
[06:55] <reisio> Dr_Willis: why webm?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  thats what cheese captures as.
[06:55] <reisio> how odd
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> plus it seems  half the time webm is actually a smaller file  then the reencoded mp4 i get
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> still not sure whats up with that.
[06:55] <reisio> that's probably just original vs copy
[06:56] <reisio> but it could be your mp4 process is flawed :)
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> these are only 720x480 video captures.
[06:56] <reisio> so?
[06:56] <joakimk> varunendra: did a simple (web based) check, and the down speed is 15.14 Mbps
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> 25 min shows. the sizes are normally close.  but every so often one show will be 50mb bigger  as mp4 then as webm.
[06:56] <joakimk> that what you meant?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> Big long movies - always seem tobe smaller in size as mp4 for me
[06:57] <varunendra> joakimk, for now, please try -  echo "options iwlwifi swcrypto=1 bt_coex_active=N" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf
[06:57] <varunendra> joakimk, the above will create a .conf file that will load the driver with two parameters. If they don't help, you may try two more things.
[06:58] <helmut_> hi
[06:58] <reisio> Dr_Willis: you meant to say mp4 in that last one?
[06:58] <reisio> helmut_: hi
[06:58] <joakimk> varunendra: so, that replaces the conf file?
[06:58] <varunendra> joakimk, if it already exists, yes. Let me see in your output..
[07:00] <varunendra> joakimk, doesn't look like you already have a conf file for the driver (which is normal).
[07:00] <joakimk> oh, ok :) so, next time I boot, I'll "use" that conf file?
[07:01] <varunendra> joakimk, yes. Or if you unload --> reload the driver
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  some times the webm is smaller. some times the reencoded mp4 is smaller.   guess it dpeends on whats in the video.
[07:02] <reisio> Dr_Willis: by how much?
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> for a 25 min show. often 20-50 mb. 10-25%
[07:02] <varunendra> joakimk, the test you did suggests you are not getting N-channel speeds anyway, so 1) you can disable it in both the router, and the driver, 2) you can try changing the channel in the router to 1 or 11 (currently it is channel 4) - they usually work better with Linux. I hope you won't need it though.
[07:03] <Gsport> change to channel 13
[07:04] <reisio> Dr_Willis: that seems pretty negligible to me
[07:04] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I guess I'd compare the audio first, though
[07:04] <reisio> you can actually target specific sizes if you want
[07:04] <joakimk> varunendra: I'll look into that, thanks a lot! However, any idea why it helps to toggle the wifi hardware switch?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> for the wifes tv show..its about fitting in the whole season on her flash drive. ;)
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> one show just now was 192mb for webm, 163mb for mp4
[07:05] <reisio> find . -type f -iname '*.webm' -exec sh -c 'ffmpeg -i {} -vcodec libx264 -preset ultrafast -acodec libfdk_aac $(basename -s .webm {}).mp4' \;
[07:05] <reisio> Dr_Willis: what's the flash drive capacity?
[07:05] <varunendra> joakimk, the first attempt may fail for many reasons. The negotiation not completing being one of these many.
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  she has a dozen. ;) one per show she wants
[07:05] <Moscherkobold_> good morning everyone, after an update my ubuntu laptop starts (after i choose "ubuntu" in the bootmgr) only in a commandline prombt instead of the usual gui login screen
[07:05] <reisio> heh
[07:05] <reisio> Dr_Willis: what for?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> She has Loveboat on the bright pink one with hearts...
[07:06] <reisio> Moscherkobold: grep EE /var/log/Xorg*log | pastebinit
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> she has little house on the one with the ... and so on.
[07:06] <varunendra> joakimk, there is also a slight discrepancy I just noticed. Is it an old installation upgraded to 12.04?
[07:06] <reisio> Dr_Willis: she's real mobile I guess?
[07:06] <joakimk> varunendra: yes
[07:06] <anon914> Moscherkobold_: its not morning for me
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  not really. ;) but she has a tv that has a usb port  and hates looking through the hard drives.
[07:07] <reisio> Dr_Willis: so... you look instead? :p
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> reisio:  teaching her how to use xbmc and plex. but she also has tablet she uses
[07:07] <reisio> ah :p
[07:07] <reisio> interim solution then
[07:07] <varunendra> joakimk, it may be another possible reason. Your previous driver name was "iwlagn" which is now changed to iwlwifi. The system may be attempting the non existing driver in the first attempt.
[07:07] <reisio> but with a little simple math you _can_ tell ffmpeg to make every show FOO% of USB stick capacity
[07:08] <reisio> every show episode, rather
[07:08] <joakimk> varunendra: any way to mend that?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> she has a media player (an o!play) that she loves -  she has a usb hub plugged into it. so she can plug in the 4 usb sticks she wants to watch that week.
[07:08] <reisio> o!play?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> Western Digital OPlay! set top box/media center
[07:08] <reisio> ah
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> its an old one. we have had it for like 5+ years.
[07:08] <reisio> proprietary set top :)
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> it cant do netflix.
[07:09] <reisio> that's something
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> but it does have lots of ports. and can sometimes get onteh network. but no upnp
[07:09] <varunendra> joakimk, resetting udev rules should do the trick. Unfortunately, I don't remember the command. You may try to manually correct a file though.
[07:09] <reisio> newer TVs do it all, of course
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> She just dosent Like the newer settop box's or how the tv does it
[07:09] <reisio> :)
[07:09] <reisio> I'd use a (free) Unix-based set-top box, myself
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> that Oplay can also play DVD ISO Images.. which i havent seen any other set top boxs do.
[07:09] <reisio> anyways, we digress :p
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> its what SHE wants. :)
[07:10] <reisio> mplayer -dvd-device foo.iso dvd://
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> dosent matter  what i want. ;P
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> id tell her to use the Roku and the Plex channel
[07:10] <reisio> maybe it will "accidentally" break :p
[07:10] <joakimk> varunendra: because, for now, I'm more concerned with just getting online than getting the N-channel speeds :)
[07:11] <ackbahr> Little anacron question : I'm trying to setup a backup task, and I wonder what the "run-parts" already present in the default /etc/anacrontab mean?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> I got her a WDTVlive hub also with built in  HD  - but she dident like it.  so its the grand kids Diego Box. ;P
[07:11] <reisio> ackbahr: man 5 crontab ?
[07:11] <reisio> Dr_Willis: this is the problem with people and their proprietary things
[07:12] <reisio> they make you duplicate exactly with free software
[07:12] <reisio> the meanies
[07:12] <reisio> best to make them use free software from the start
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> I have 2 tv's setup with Plex-Pi devices ;P
[07:12] <varunendra> joakimk, please try what is suggested in post #16 here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162733&page=2&p=12734000#post12734000 to reset your udev rules.
[07:14] <reisio> Dr_Willis: I keep meaning to do that, only with mplayer and a webUI
[07:14] <reisio> and probably not a pi at this point
[07:14] <reisio> whoops, we digress more :p
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Plex on my ubuntu file server and that PlexPi (or piplex) makes it handy.
[07:15] <joakimk> varunendra: the first part generates the file, and the "check" part just views it afterwards?
[07:15] <ackbahr> reisio: Thanks!
[07:16] <varunendra> joakimk, yes. You only need to check the udev rules file (the first 'cat' command in the check part)
[07:16] <varunendra> make sure the "iwlagn" part is replaced with "iwlwifi", joakimk
[07:16] <reisio> ackbahr: :)
[07:17] <ackbahr> reisio: Still reading, doesn't mean I'll get it... :)
[07:17] <reisio> ackbahr: but you found something mentioning it?
[07:18] <joakimk> varunendra: hmmm... After doing this, I didn't get a new .rules file
[07:18] <patriick> where would I report possible security holes in a package on the repos?
[07:18] <grendal-prime> ya so reisio  it didnt show as being there because i removed it.
[07:18] <grendal-prime> but it was supposed to go on the root.  vda
[07:19] <ackbahr> Well, I thought it was something specific to anacron but I realised it's in fact the command! I didn't know it yet, but the structure makes it obvious... Sorry for not looking properly, but I'd rather avoid mistakes... :D
[07:19] <joakimk> I have 70-persistent-cd.rules file only (plus the backup file, of course)
[07:19] <grendal-prime> Dr_Willis, what were you saying about webm vs mpg?
[07:19] <ackbahr> (That was for reisio)
[07:19] <varunendra> joakimk, are you sure the commands finished successfully?
[07:19] <reisio> grendal-prime: gj
[07:19] <reisio> grendal-prime: vs mp4, he was saying the don't produce files of the same size
[07:20] <reisio> ackbahr: ah
[07:20] <reisio> ackbahr: I should've thought of that :p
[07:20] <patriick> Guess I'll just leave this here. http://www.gnutls.org/security.html#GNUTLS-SA-2013-2 The gnutls version in the repos is extremely outdated.
[07:20] <joakimk> varunendra: well, they returned "udev stop/waiting" then "udev start/running, process 10970"
[07:20] <grendal-prime> ya webm is much smaller in most cases
[07:20] <MKCoin> Is there a way to restart compiz without breaking everything with a GUI?
[07:20] <joakimk> varunendra: same for network-manager, only process 11130
[07:21] <ackbahr> reisio: Sorry again. As you're already answering my questions, do you know when the "delay" setting starts?
[07:21] <reisio> grendal-prime: much?
[07:21] <grendal-prime> im doing a lot of that kinda work right now. and web me..can be fuzzy-er but streams..loads and its size is amazingly small than mp4
[07:21] <reisio> ackbahr: sorry I'm not that familiar with anacron :)
[07:21] <varunendra> joakimk, the creation part is "udevadm trigger". Did it return any outputs?
[07:21] <joakimk> varunendra: could it have created the new file in the wrong directory? I didn't cd to /etc/udev/rules.d first...
[07:21] <ackbahr> reisio: No problem, thanks again for before.
[07:21] <joakimk> varunendra: no output there...
[07:22] <joakimk> only the "restart" commands gave output
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> grendal-prime:  just noticed that some times the same video  in either one is smaller with no real pattern. ;)  same type of show. same legenth. but can be 30-40mb smaller in mp4 then webm.. but some times its the reverse
[07:23] <grendal-prime> hours worth of video in webm format captured from my desktop is usually about  130 megs.  Hours worth of riped dvd video in mp4 is around 5-700meg
[07:23] <varunendra> joakimk, no it shouldn't. Try a reboot then re-run the same commands. If the file is not created, restore the backup file and manually change "iwlagn" to "iwlwifi" in it. Although I believe the trigger command does more than that.
[07:23] <grendal-prime> well you can adjust alot of things..it depends on what you need as far as clairty.
[07:24] <grendal-prime> if you dont need hd, you will cut the size in half.
[07:24] <reisio> grendal-prime: that seems like a useless comparison...
[07:24] <grendal-prime> no its not
[07:24] <joakimk> varunendra: I'll try that :-D Thank you _very_ much for your excellent help!
[07:24] <grendal-prime> i can show you the diff
[07:24] <reisio> screen captured versus DVD ripped & transcoded?
[07:24] <reisio> they have entirely separate sources...
[07:24] <grendal-prime> sscreen capture is transcoded as well
[07:24] <grendal-prime> same res in the end
[07:25] <reisio> yeah, but you don't seem to be comparing screen captured transcoded to webm vs the same transcoded to mp4
[07:25] <grendal-prime> i do this allot dude
[07:25] <varunendra> joakimk, You're welcome, if it doesn't help. You should post your problem in the forums. Feel free to pm me afterwards (my id is same there).
[07:25] <grendal-prime> ok..sorry i have done that as well
[07:25] <reisio> okay :p
[07:25] <reisio> grendal-prime: and the differences are?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> grendal-prime:  these are just ordinary tv shows/sitcoms - 25 min or so in legenth. 712x476 in size. faac audio. and they will be about 150-200mb in size. but   im just noticeing every so often webm will be 20-30 mb smaller.. or larger then the same file encoded to mp4 ;)  seems random.. or else im captureing more of the end credits and those encode better in one or the other
[07:26] <grendal-prime> i can get webm usually about half the size of a  mpg the same size ...differenc is the clarity on the webm will be not so great when you resize
[07:26] <reisio> grendal-prime: okay, what about an mp_4_
[07:26] <reisio> and if the clarity isn't the same, what does it matter...
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> same file - Mp4 = 204mb , webm was 190. so they are close.
[07:26] <grendal-prime> mp4 size physically on the screen will usally be locked.
[07:27] <reisio> I'm guessing vorbis audio in webm is rather lower quality
[07:27] <grendal-prime> that could be to...i also know that the webm is much more browser friendly.
[07:27] <reisio> it isn't, though :)
[07:27] <grendal-prime> ok
[07:27] <reisio> more browsers support mp4
[07:27] <grendal-prime> nevermind then
[07:28] <reisio> it has the potential to be, sometime in the future
[07:28] <grendal-prime> ok
[07:28] <grendal-prime> if you say so.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> im playing them mainly on android tablets. both formats seem to  work the same. I just have to rename foo.webm to foo.webm.avi :) for my phones players
[07:29] <reisio> I do :)
[07:29] <reisio> Internet Explorer and Safari support MP4 over webm
[07:29] <reisio> for now
[07:29] <reisio> yeah for a personal collection, used with a player of your own choice, it doesn't matter of course :)
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> biggest issue i have with webm is that things like the file managers dont relize they are vidoes. so dont show the same properties/video info
[07:30] <reisio> just rename them .webm.mp4 :p
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> and some of the set top box's i got dont support webm
[07:30] <reisio> the GNU/Linux players won't care
[07:30] <reisio> ah
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> that dident seem to work  for windows, or nautilus
[07:30] <reisio> fancy new TVs support both, I believe
[07:30] <reisio> Windows? ewwww
[07:31] <reisio> nautilus should just pass it off to your dedicated media player
[07:31] <reisio> which shouldn't care
[07:31] <reisio> if otherwise, you probably aren't using VLC or mplayer
[07:31] <varunendra> grendal-prime, you said - " clarity on the webm will be not so great when you resize" - do you resize the mpg file or a source file? Transcoding to a lossy codec is always going to lose some quality.
[07:32] <grendal-prime> jesus
[07:32] <grendal-prime> im totaly wrong..
[07:32] <varunendra> ??
[07:32] <grendal-prime> everyone happy?
[07:32] <grendal-prime> in fact i know nothing abbout this
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> i mean the properties dialog in nautilus. but that DOES seem to be working now. (in 13.10) it was  not working i recall in the eralier ubuntu releases i had last month)
[07:32] <varunendra> If you are now.
[07:33] <ddssc> how do I revert changes to whatever was installed last?
[07:33] <ddssc> like I want to roll back installs up to a point
[07:33] <ddssc> possibru?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> ddssc:  seen that asked befor.. never seen a clear simple/concise answer
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> now you can Pin specific packages to specific versions.. but thats not the same
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> !pin
[07:34] <varunendra> ddssc, there is no default "rollback" option in Ubuntu. Either you have to keep track of changes yourself, or maybe some third party application could do it, but I never heard of such any app.
[07:35] <reisio> grendal-prime: I'm not discontented :D
[07:35] <grendal-prime> hey i got an idea.....read this
[07:35] <grendal-prime> http://pacoup.com/2012/12/20/vp8-webm-vs-h-264-mp4-december-2012/
[07:35] <ddssc> Dr_Willis:  last thing I remember was installing nvidia 325 drivers from some ppt that got interrupted... maybe that screwed up everything
[07:36] <grendal-prime> or about the half a dozen other things right off the top of the google thang
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> ddssc:  if the package manager got killed/crashed during a upgrade.. thats not a good idea
[07:36] <ddssc> I'd like to apt-get remove --purge all that crap
[07:36] <ddssc> usually I'd check the logs and do it manually but apparently it installed too much shit..
[07:37] <ddssc> is it possible to uninstall all packages from a ppt repo?
[07:37] <Jordan_U_> !ppa-purge | ddssc
[07:37] <ddssc> like apt-get remove ppt/whatever --purge
[07:37] <ddssc> Jordan_U_: cheers
[07:39] <guest__> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x64 is installed on my laptop.   There is not a cd in my tray and I cannot open it with the button nor with a terminal command.
[07:39] <ddssc> guest__: maybe your cd died?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> theres the little paperclip hole. ;)
[07:40] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, old tricks never fail... ;P
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> eject command fails? does it even click?
[07:41] <grendal-prime> i got 3 old dvds that for some reason that is the only way to open them
[07:41] <anon914> who uses cds this days anyways...
[07:41] <ddssc> how do I list all ppa packages ?
[07:41] <grendal-prime> wow
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> gotta love sshing into a remote box. and using 'eject' to annoy whoever is sitting at the machine
[07:41] <grendal-prime> you sure thats a good idea?
[07:41] <reisio> cd drives are so flakey :p
[07:41] <grendal-prime> allot of times have to use the to make isos..then the go on the filer
[07:42] <reisio> the best was that IE bug for Windows that allowed a website to open the CD tray
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Position a power strip where the ejecting tray powers down another device. ;P
[07:42] <anon914> i prefer using floppy drives
[07:42] <reisio> hahah
[07:42] <grendal-prime> no i have to do it ALLOT of times
[07:42] <grendal-prime> units of them
[07:42] <reisio> Dr_Willis: that may be the greatest makeshift software switch control ever
[07:42] <grendal-prime> hehehe
[07:42] <anon914> 1.44MB is all i need
[07:42] <guest__> I restarted my computer, hit F12 and pressed the cd tray eject button, inserted a blank dvd, booted Ubuntu and tested the eject command and it worked.
[07:43] <reisio> anon914: 79.7kB :)
[07:43] <guest__> But when the cd tray is empty and closed, the eject command via terminal does not work.
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> night all
[07:44] <guest__> I successfully burned a 32 bit version of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[07:45] <guest__> When my cd/dvd tray has a cd/dvd in it, the eject command via terminal works.
[07:45] <guest__> But when it is empty, it does not.
[07:46] <guest__> Do I need to locate a driver for my optical drive?
[07:46] <anon914> guest__, try installing gentoo, that might fix the problem
[07:46] <reisio> guest__: try eject -t, eject -T, etc.
[07:48] <guest__> sudo eject -t eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[07:49] <reisio> guest__: that's something else
[07:49] <reisio> guest__: you can specify the device path explicitly
[07:50] <reisio> eject /dev/sr0, etc.
[07:50] <guest__> I have tried [sudo eject /dev/cdrom] without the brackets and it does not work.
[07:51] <tasslehoff> is there a support channel for mactel, or is this the place?
[07:52] <ddssc> how do I list all installed ppa's ?
[07:53] <mohit> unable to use wifi on my dell xps 1340
[07:53] <mohit> BMC4322 car
[07:53] <mohit> card
[07:53] <varunendra> mohit, please show us the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[07:54] <varunendra> guest__, cd tray ejecting with disc in, not without disk is almost always a physical problem, not a software one.
[07:55] <grendal-prime> hmm werid
[07:55] <grendal-prime> need to look at these vids
[07:55] <grendal-prime> mayby im doing something seriously wrong..but
[07:56] <grendal-prime> ones 12 megs and sucks..and its mp4..the the other is 2.3 and its readable..should be the same settings...unless
[07:57] <grendal-prime> and the 2.3 is webm
[07:58] <mohit> varunendra, i am using windows now ..  i want to dual boot.. so i cant show you the out put sorry .. but  "Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:432b] (rev 01" this was the output i guess..
[07:59] <energizer> I'm having some problem with my wifi. can I get help?
[07:59] <varunendra> mohit, do you have a wired connection on the laptop?
[07:59] <geektech713> what kind of router?
[07:59] <geektech713> what brand?
[07:59] <mohit> varunendra no
[08:00] <varunendra> energizer, please show the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[08:00] <geektech713> u don't wired into router to get access to it
[08:00] <geektech713> what brand of router?
[08:00] <varunendra> !broadcom | mohit
[08:00] <varunendra> mohit, use the "No Internet" method for the STA driver. That's the one that should work with your card
[08:01] <guest__> varunendra, This sucks.  When my cd/dvd tray is empty, I cannot eject it unless I reboot into F12 (boot device selection menu).
[08:01] <grendal-prime> did you try eject as root?
[08:01] <varunendra> guest__, are you aware of the paperclip trick ? ;)
[08:02] <mohit> varunendra i am using ubuntu 1st time .. i am using 13.04 64 bit version .. so please tell me the steps to do so
[08:02] <energizer1> varunendra: $ lspci -nnk | grep iA2 net
[08:02] <energizer1> grep: net: No such file or directory
[08:02] <guest__> Yes, but that is a bit of an annoyance to me.
[08:02] <grendal-prime> reisio, sorry that took so long but i was iincoding an 50 min webm video of how to build a virtual scada system.
[08:03] <varunendra> energizer1, you have to use the full command - starting from lspci... ending at net.
[08:03] <grendal-prime> guest__ did it work?
[08:03] <varunendra> energizer1, the pipe (|) symbol in-between is on the same key as backslash (\) on my US-104 keyboard.
[08:04] <reisio> grendal-prime: what're you mp4'ing with?
[08:04] <energizer1> varunendra: i thought i did? "$ lspci -nnk | grep iA2 net"
[08:05] <grendal-prime> openshot
[08:05] <varunendra> mohit, do you have the "bcmwl-kernel-source" package on your installation source? (under /pool/restricted/b... folder)
[08:05] <grendal-prime> video editor...
[08:05] <varunendra> energizer1, you forgot the hyphen before i
[08:05] <grendal-prime> i have tried 3 of them in the last month i get the same results
[08:05] <reisio> grendal-prime: try with ffmpeg -i original -vcodec libx264 -preset ultrafast -acodec libfdk_aac output.mp4
[08:06] <MonkeyDust> grendal-prime  winff is a nice gui for ffmpeg
[08:06] <grendal-prime> ok...im not going to do that..i need to be able to edit the files and then output them
[08:06] <grendal-prime> you are talking about transcoding only
[08:06] <grendal-prime> i have to edit..add sound remove sound and then add text animation..
[08:06] <energizer1> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082520/
[08:07] <grendal-prime> all of the editing studio software has that exact same results..
[08:07] <grendal-prime> dont know what to tell you..
[08:07] <MonkeyDust> grendal-prime  try asking in #ubuntustudio, it's multimedia dedicated
[08:07] <grendal-prime> i guess again i dont know anything about it but my personal experience with it.
[08:07] <energizer1> The problem that I'm having: My desktop wifi is extremely inconsistent. THe laptop sitting right next to it is always perfect. Both 13.04.
 No beause I don't have a freaking paperclip.
[08:08] <guest__> *because
[08:08] <grendal-prime> im using the same graphix apps that are in the ubuntustudio... i dont care ...i was simply trying to answer the question earlyer about why they are sometimes larger or smaller..
[08:08] <grendal-prime> guest...as root user
[08:08] <grendal-prime> can you type the word   eject
[08:09] <grendal-prime> and hit enter
[08:09] <varunendra> energizer1, please try (temporary change, will be lost at next boot) - "sudo modprobe -rfv ath9k" ..... then .... "sudo modprobe -v ath9k nohwcrypt=1"
[08:09] <energizer> yeah, like right now, the desktop, (energizer1) is broken
[08:09] <reisio> grendal-prime: well, media is different, but you linked to quite an exhaustive comparison already I think :)
[08:10] <guest__> grendal-prime - eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[08:10] <grendal-prime> are you the root user?
[08:10] <grendal-prime> when you run that
[08:10] <ddssc> what's the proper nvidia driver to install for an optimus latop?
[08:10] <guest__> I see the $ prompt, so I think so.
[08:11] <grendal-prime> does it say  root@yourmachinename?
[08:11] <energizer> varunendra: ok did that
[08:12] <varunendra> energizer, now do whatever you did that triggered the disconnect (except manually disconnecting ;) ), see if it is anymore stable.
[08:13] <guest__> grendal-prime - no.
[08:13] <grendal-prime> guest__  you are not root then.
[08:13] <grendal-prime> guest__ type this   sudo -s
[08:14] <grendal-prime> then put in yours password when it asks for it
[08:14] <geirha> guest__: When you're logged in as root, there's conventionally a # instead of $ in the prompt to indicate that
[08:14] <grendal-prime> ya it also says...  "root"
[08:14] <grendal-prime> which is a big help
[08:15] <energizer3> --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
[08:15] <energizer3> 31 packets transmitted, 15 received, 51% packet loss, time 30134ms
[08:15] <energizer3> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 4.044/82.130/115.021/45.529 ms
[08:15] <guest__> it says root@computername
[08:15] <grendal-prime> type eject
[08:15] <energizer> varunendra: i think that means its still bad...
[08:16] <grendal-prime> energizerya thats bad network throuput
[08:16] <grendal-prime> wireshark it
[08:16] <mohit> wifi working fine in live mode but cant use wifi after installing ubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[08:16] <varunendra> mohit, does "apt-cache show bcmwl-kernel-source" return any outputs? Not errors.
[08:17] <guest__> Same error message:  eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[08:17] <mohit> varunendra i have uninstalled ubuntu from my sysytem .. i want to install it again with proper drievrs .. is there any way i can install the wifi driver during live mode ?
[08:17] <varunendra> energizer, please follow the instructions to run wireless_script in this post (but use the "Alternate script at the bottom of the post) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[08:18] <varunendra> energizer, give us the pastebin link to the report the script generates.
[08:19] <varunendra> mohit, if you are going to reinstall, just check the "Install drivers" checkbox while installing. It will automatically install the proprietary driver for your card. But you don't need to go through that if you wish.
[08:19] <grendal-prime> guest__ try this
[08:20] <grendal-prime> cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info
[08:20] <grendal-prime> see what cdrom devices it does know about
[08:20] <mohit> varunendra , there come 2 checkbox one for install update and one for 3rd party softwares .. which one should i check ?
[08:21] <varunendra> mohit, install updates.
[08:21] <mohit> varunendra Thanks .. hopefully this will work for me
[08:21] <varunendra> mohit, I'm not sure actually, check both ;P
[08:21] <varunendra> mohit, like I said there are other ways too, not very difficult :)
[08:22] <mohit> varunendra ha ha .. ok .. is there any way i can download them in live mode .. cause i can use my wifi in live mode
[08:22] <mohit> so later ubuntu find them from my system it self
[08:22] <guest__> varunendra - I run that command but nothing relevent shows up.
[08:23] <varunendra> mohit, perhaps. Does "apt-get install --print-uris bcmwl-kernle-source" return download links at the bottom of the output?
[08:23] <mohit> varunendra i am installing ubuntu now.. if chkbox things doesnt work .. i will contact you back :P
[08:23] <varunendra> guest__, sorry, what command?
[08:23] <DF3D2> are usb dacs supported ?
[08:24] <guest__> varunendra - my reply was meant for grendal-prime.  Sorry.
[08:25] <varunendra> mohit, remember the "wl" or "bcmwl" driver (two names for same thing). That is the one you need. Install it anyway you are comfortable with.
[08:25] <varunendra> guest__, np :)
[08:25] <abd-allah> how to execute an application/x-shellscript?
[08:25] <abd-allah> pls?
[08:25] <fudus> sh insertnamehere
[08:25] <grendal-prime> so your machine does not know if there are any cdroms installed. it soulds like a symbolic link has not been created for it.
[08:25] <nez3716> bash scriptname
[08:25] <guest__> grendal-prime - cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info does not show anything relevant.
[08:26] <abd-allah> I'm opening it but it opens in gedit.
[08:26] <jozefk> can I get my external display working in live Ubuntu if I connect it to laptop with HDMI and I have sandy bridge on the laptop?
[08:26] <nez3716> abd-allah: you have to do that from a terminal
[08:26] <grendal-prime> well does it list any /dev devices?
[08:26] <energizer> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082569/
[08:26] <nez3716> abd-allah: not from the gui filemanager
[08:26] <grendal-prime> guest__
[08:26] <abd-allah> what to type nez37
[08:26] <fudus> or click the run in terminal button
[08:27] <guest__> grendal-prime - yes, go ahead...
[08:27] <nez3716> abd-allah: bash scriptname   (in the directory where the script was saved to)
[08:27] <grendal-prime> like does it list...
[08:27] <grendal-prime> drive name:		sr0
[08:27] <grendal-prime> drive speed:		24
[08:27] <grendal-prime> drive # of slots:	1
[08:27] <FloodBot1> grendal-prime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:28] <abd-allah> nez3716:it says permission denied.
[08:28] <guest__> grendal-prime - when I have a blank cd or dvd in the tray, Ubuntu recognizes it, but if the tray is empty, no eject.
[08:28] <Moscherkobold> resio:
 good morning everyone, after an update my ubuntu laptop starts (after i choose "ubuntu" in the bootmgr) only in a commandline prombt instead of the usual gui login screen
[08:28] <Moscherkobold> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082574/
[08:29] <grendal-prime> when you run that cat command did it bring back something that said "drive name: sr0"
[08:29] <abd-allah> nez3716:after i bash it ,it says permission denied and exited with code:126
[08:29] <guest__> grendal-prime - no.  It ididn't say which drive had a logical name.
[08:29] <nez3716> abd-allah: what kind of script is it? what should it do?
[08:29] <abd-allah> help pls.
[08:30] <varunendra> energizer, please run the script without 'sh'. Try "./wireless_script" or "bash wireless_script". It is not compatible with sh. The output is incomplete.
[08:30] <abd-allah> it's in fact tor browser bundle.
[08:31] <grendal-prime> i find that very odd.  past the output of that in pastbin   was there any output from that?
[08:31] <DF3D2> are usb dacs supported ?
[08:31] <nez3716> abd-allah: so it's the install script for that? maybe it needs to run as root. i never tried it.
[08:31] <abd-allah> pls help.
[08:31] <nez3716> abd-allah: hey, show some patience please.
[08:31] <abd-allah> ok.thanks
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> varunendra: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[08:31] <varunendra> ActionParsnip, me??
[08:32] <grendal-prime> jesus its 130
[08:33] <grendal-prime> night
[08:33] <varunendra> abd-allah, is the script executable? (check "ls -l <your script name>")
[08:34] <abd-allah> yes
[08:34] <varunendra> abd-allah, is it tor browser installer?
[08:35] <abd-allah> no. it's like portable software. i've to run the script and the browser starts working.
[08:35] <energizer> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082590/
[08:35] <guest__> grendal-prime - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6082593/
[08:36] <mohit> can i use ubuntu in vmware .. so i dont have to dual boot ?
[08:36] <reisio> mohit: sure
[08:36] <reisio> or Windows in vmware :p
[08:36] <varunendra> abd-allah, then I won't recommend to run it with sudo or gksu, although it seems you may need it.. but running a browser with root privilege is very risky.
[08:37] <abd-allah> then what can i do?
[08:37] <fudus> all you need to do for tor is to click the start-tor-browser file and do run
[08:38] <fudus> i have it and it works fine
[08:38] <abd-allah> fudus:but it opens in text editor(gedit).
[08:38] <fudus> files pref behaviour ask each time
[08:38] <DF3D2> are usb dacs supported ?
[08:39] <fudus> then dclick on run will run it
[08:40] <abd-allah> fudus:in permission properties why it does not allow to execute file as program?
[08:40] <abd-allah> fudus:i can't check the checkbox.
[08:41] <fudus> it should be set already from the tar file
[08:41] <Moscherkobold> good morning everyone, after an update my ubuntu laptop starts (after i choose "ubuntu" in the bootmgr) only in a commandline prombt instead of the usual gui login screen
[08:41] <Moscherkobold> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082574/
[08:42] <mohit> reisio its better to use it as virtual or in real boot
[08:42] <abd-allah> fudus:i can run it now. what i did is just move the bundle to /home folder and it runs.
[08:42] <abd-allah> fudus:amazing
[08:42] <abd-allah> thanks
[08:43] <reisio> mohit: I prefer to use a VM instead of dual booting
[08:43] <reisio> but it depends on the situation really
[08:43] <abd-allah> you,guys are too much helpful.
[08:44] <fudus> Moscherkobold, have fun with the nvidia drivers ;)
[08:45] <abd-allah> in virtualbox website version 4.2 is available but in Ubuntu Software Center why it is 4.1?
[08:45] <Moscherkobold> fudus: is it a driver problem? how can i solve this?
[08:45] <hardy1> hi
[08:45] <reisio> abd-allah: because .deb's don't make themselves
[08:45] <abd-allah> does not ubuntu provides latest update?
[08:45] <MonkeyDust> !latest
[08:46] <DJones> abd-allah, Ubuntu doesn't update packages when the original developer releases them, new versions generally only get released when a new release of Ubuntu is issued
[08:46] <fudus> unless it has a security flaw, no
[08:46] <hardy1> someone knows if the it's a ubuntuphone byable yet?
[08:46] <fudus> or someone goes through backporting fun
[08:46] <fudus> (no)
[08:46] <abd-allah> DJones:if i want latest version then what to do?
[08:46] <DF3D2> are usb dacs supported ?
[08:46] <fudus> download it from their website
[08:47] <fudus> for virtualbox anyhow
[08:47] <smw94> anyone use libreoffice impress 4.1 and crashed when using fade slide transition ?
[08:47] <DJones> !phone | hardy1 Not really, the hardware hasn't been developed yet, but you can install it on some current phones,
[08:47] <energizer> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082590/
[08:47] <fudus> they probably add their own apt source like chrome when you install their deb
[08:48] <smw94> anyone use libreoffice impress 4.1 and crashed when using fade slide transition ?
[08:48] <fudus> Moscherkobold, what version of nvidiad rivers do you have?
[08:48] <DJones> abd-allah, You would have to manually install it either from the developers website or from a ppa, however doing that wouldn't be supported by the Ubuntu channels
[08:48] <varunendra> energizer, I don't see any clear suspects in your output. There are a few things you may try, but I doubt they will show any quick results. The last resort will be compiling-installing latest compat driver for which I may not be able to give clear instructions right now. So I suggest you try the forums, them wait for a reply or PM me
[08:48] <DJones> !ppa | abd-allah
[08:48] <guest__> how do i get out root in the terminal?
[08:48] <TNTS> How do I remove the X.org drivers? (Using AMD Radeon HD 7480D)
[08:48] <Moscherkobold> fudus: i dont know
[08:48] <fudus> you can try removing it and go to updates or plain version
[08:48] <woodruff> hello, i want a vnc client for ubuntu so i can log into a qemu vm (also running ubuntu) anyone can recommand vnc client proggram ?
[08:49] <varunendra> energizer, you experience dropped packets also, right?
[08:49] <NK> i downgraded one of my package and told synaptic to mark it has "hold" to fix the version. But when i tried to install something else now, apt-get and aptitude keep telling me I have to upgrade it or delete it. Any idea how i can do to still use apt without this problem ?
[08:49] <guest__> How do I get out of root in the terminal?
[08:49] <energizer2> --- 192.168.1.1 ping statistics ---
[08:49] <varunendra> guest__, exit
[08:49] <energizer2> 55 packets transmitted, 38 received, 30% packet loss, time 54122ms
[08:49] <energizer2> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 2.579/37.877/106.135/46.093 ms
[08:49] <guest__> duh.
[08:49] <guest__> Thanks.
[08:50] <varunendra> energizer2, is that while using the problematic ath9k card?
[08:50] <energizer> ya
[08:50] <varunendra> guest__, np :)
[08:50] <abd-allah> how to go to root and come out of it in terminal?
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> abd-allah  use sudo for root actions
[08:51] <varunendra> energizer, did you get the packet drops even after trying the "nohwcrypt=1" parameter I suggested earlier ?
[08:51] <TNTS> Why is it that when I try to remove X.Org drivers I get Abort. ?
[08:51] <guest__> abd-allah - To go into root ---> sudo -s
[08:51] <energizer> varunendra: ya, i've been doing everything you've told me in sequence without restart.
[08:51] <guest__> abd-allah - to get out ---> exit
[08:52] <energizer> varunendra: at some point i may get frustrated and want to buy another card. good idea? do you like a particular card?
[08:53] <fudus> Moscherkobold, you can try this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/225714/nvidia-drivers-fail-completely-after-update-to-3-5-019
[08:53] <fudus> energizer, anything taiwanese ;)
[08:54] <SynthMobile_> Help, after I rebooted after installing nvidia drivers I get stuck on a black screen with a blinking underscore im running 12.04
[08:54] <varunendra> energizer, not in particular, for this one, we may need some in-depth digging. Probably chili555 would be the best person to be able to help you. You can find him on the forums (ubuntuforums.org) My id is same there.
[08:55] <Coterabeth> .
[08:55] <geirha> energizer: One with a penguin on the box.
[08:55] <SynthMobile_> Help pls
[08:55] <varunendra> energizer, if you can do it without problems, you should try changing the channel from 6 to 1 or 11. These channels work nicely with Linux, but packet drops is still unexplained.
[08:55] <energizer> geirha: that means going shopping in a *store*
[08:56] <fudus> something not made by broadcom or atheros :P
[08:56] <energizer> varunendra: ok ill try changing channel. tomorrow ill do the forums if it doesnt work. thank you.
[08:56] <varunendra> Welcome ! :)
[08:57] <abd-allah> where to get a MAC OS iso to run it in VirtualBox on Ubuntu?
[08:57] <varunendra> fudus, I find broadcom chips good enough though, they only need a couple of commands one time, then work forever.
[08:57] <SynthMobile_> abd-allah torrent
[08:57] <varunendra> ;)
[08:58] <keanehsiao> hi. I would like ask, I follow this post : http://www.wong101.com/tech-cloud/how-set-vsftpd-ec2  to install ftp on ec2. however, i couldn't connect via cyperduck…  anything wrong ?
[08:58] <keanehsiao> my distribute is Ubuntu
[08:58] <abd-allah> give me torrent link of latest version pls.
[08:58] <DJones> abd-allah, That you'll have to get from the cd/dvd's that came with your MAC
[08:58] <fudus> abd-allah, apple only allows osx emulation on apple hardware
[08:59] <pratik> Hi! I am encountering problems with dpkg. I get a Bus error (core dumped) message whenever I am trying to upgrade or install any package. Can anyone please help me out?
[08:59] <abd-allah> fudus:can't i test it on intel processor?
[08:59] <pratik> !
[09:00] <fudus> only legally on apple hardware
[09:00] <abd-allah> oh god.fuck apple
[09:01] <Coterabeth> anyone know of an IRC client that allows vertically-split windows?  I like irssi but vertical splits would be nice
[09:01] <keanehsiao> hi. I would like ask, I follow this post : http://www.wong101.com/tech-cloud/how-set-vsftpd-ec2  to install ftp on ec2. however, i couldn't connect via cyperduck…  anything wrong ?   my server is ubuntu 12.04
[09:02] <Moscherkobold> Coterabeth: what do you mean with splits?
[09:02] <Moscherkobold> different channels per window?
[09:02] <Coterabeth> yes
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> Coterabeth  use screen in combination with irssi... screen can split
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> !info screen
[09:03] <keanehsiao> oh… no problem.. I have done that.
[09:03] <Coterabeth> irssi can only split horizontally though
[09:03] <reisio> keanehsiao: if you want secure file transfers, just use sshd
[09:04] <Coterabeth> I want something that can split vertically
[09:04] <keanehsiao> reisio: couldn't..  my design only use ftp...
[09:04] <reisio> Coterabeth: a non-GUI IRC client?
[09:04] <MonkeyDust> Coterabeth  screen can do that
[09:04] <Coterabeth> yes
[09:04] <pratik> Unpacking initramfs-tools (from .../initramfs-tools_0.103ubuntu0.7_all.deb) ... Bus error (core dumped)
[09:04] <keanehsiao> reisio: but I fixed it.. thanks.
[09:04] <reisio> Coterabeth: dunno, might check if weechat can
[09:04] <reisio> keanehsiao: gj
[09:04] <pratik> I am getting this error: Unpacking initramfs-tools (from .../initramfs-tools_0.103ubuntu0.7_all.deb) ... Bus error (core dumped)
[09:05] <Coterabeth> How?
[09:05] <abd-allah> is there any task manager in ubuntu just like Windows Task Manager in Windows?
[09:05] <Coterabeth> htop
[09:05] <fudus> dash type monitor
[09:05] <fudus> or system monitor
[09:06] <fudus> then processes
[09:07] <abd-allah> what to do if ubuntu get hanged?
[09:07] <fudus> use system monitor
[09:07] <fudus> or ctrl-alt-f1 sudo shutdown -r now :P
[09:08] <MonkeyDust> abd-allah  are use alt-f2 > xkill     to kill the frozen window
[09:10] <Moscherkobold> fudus: thank you http://askubuntu.com/questions/225714/nvidia-drivers-fail-completely-after-update-to-3-5-019 worked for me
[09:12] <d0x> Hi, if I execute a script with sudo myscript.sh, the variables in /etc/profile are not read. Where else to specify them?
[09:13] <geirha> d0x: /etc/profile is read when you log in
[09:14] <Moscherkobold> how to upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 13.04?
[09:14] <geirha> scripts will never read profile or bashrc
[09:14] <DJones> !upgrade | Moscherkobold
[09:14] <geirha> d0x: So I'm guessing you're running this script from cron or something?
[09:14] <Moscherkobold> DJones: thx
[09:14] <DJones> Moscherkobold, Pretty much follow the bot's link for instructions, you'll need to upgrade to 12.10 first and then 13.04
[09:16] <geirha> d0x: Err, sorry, I missed that you're running it with sudo. sudo drops most environment variables by default; you can configure it to let certain ones through
[09:16] <NK> :win45
[09:16] <geirha> d0x: Or set them explicitly e.g.  sudo FOO="$FOO" BAR="$BAR" yourscript
[09:19] <Johnny_Linux> nice flood. lol
[09:24] <thegladiator>  #jquery
[09:29] <fudus> ikonia cleans
[09:29] <fudus> sweep sweep
[09:30] <tavish> hi, i accidentally did 'rm -rf /usr/include/python2.7/ /usr/lib/python2.7/ /usr/bin/python' instead of rm -rf ./usr/lib/python2.7/ etc, which I was doing inside another directory. I dont have any system backups, is there any way to get the python stuff back? i dont think even apt-get is working
[09:31] <geirha> tavish: Possible, yes. Easy, no.
[09:32] <tavish> geirha: any pointers where to start?
[09:33] <geirha> tavish: The solution I'd go for would be to do a clean install on some other machine (could be in a vm) of the same release; then copy those dirs from the new install to your current machine, then reinstall all python-packages
[09:34] <fudus> apt-get doesn't use python dpkg -S /usr/include/python* sudo apt-get install python-imaging --reinstall
[09:35] <fudus> then dpkg -S for all the other folders you removed
[09:35] <afancy>  Hi, when I right-click my mouse, it always executes the command, for example "open a new window". How could i disable the  execution?
[09:38] <tavish> fudus: thanks, i will do that and if if nothing else works, do as geirha suggested
[09:38] <geirha> afancy: My first instinct would be that the mouse might be physically damaged; making it trigger a left mouse button click in addition to a right one
[09:38] <geirha> afancy: So I'd try to rule out that first, by testing it on a different computer/OS
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[09:40] <ShapeShifter499> I'm noticing a few drivers are 32 bit only, how do I get them to work in 64 bit ubuntu?
[09:44] <SunJeep> yo
[09:44] <Coterabe1h> Hello
[09:45] <SunJeep> how goes it
[09:45] <karthikeyan> hi
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hi
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hi
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hi
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hi
[09:46] <FloodBot1> karthikeyan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hello
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hello
[09:46] <DJones> karthikeyan, One Hi/Hello is enough
[09:46] <karthikeyan> hello
[09:46] <FloodBot1> karthikeyan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:47] <karthikeyan> DJones: Whhere are you from ?
[09:47] <karthikeyan> WHere are you from ?
[09:47] <karthikeyan> Where r you from
[09:47] <karthikeyan> wr are you from ?
[09:47] <ikonia> karthikeyan: stop repeating - final warning
[09:47] <ikonia> karthikeyan: as the question 1 time
[09:47] <DJones> karthikeyan, This is a support channel, do you have an Ubuntu support question
[09:47] <ikonia> ask
[09:48] <keanehsiao> hi. asking vsftp again.. how can I hide a folder and files with vsftp
[09:48] <karthikeyan> i have doubts regarding multi os alongside win 8
[09:48] <ikonia> keanehsiao: permissions
[09:49] <ikonia> keanehsiao: try the ##windows support channel
[09:49] <ikonia> keanehsiao: this one is for Ubuntu - type "/join ##windows"
[09:49] <karthikeyan> how to dual boot windows 8 and ubuntu 13.10
[09:49] <keanehsiao> ikonia: I install vsftpd on ubuntu..
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> karthikeyan  13.10 is not yet ready, install a supported release, then ask again
[09:50] <reisio> karthikeyan: should be the same as dual booting any other versions of windows and ubuntu, though
[09:50] <ikonia> keanehsiao: sorry, that was meant for karthikeyan
[09:50] <karthikeyan> karthikeyan: ok...Thanks a lot for your response :)
[09:50] <karthikeyan> ok...Thanks a lot for your response :)
[09:54] <jony_easyrider> which brand of CPU do you recommend for Ubuntu and for office use (sometimes with massive calculations in LibreOffice Calc)?
[09:54] <jony_easyrider> AMD or Intel?
[09:57] <ws2k3> hello i have placed this command in my rc.local Xvfb :99 -ac -screen 0 1024x768x8 > /tmp/xvfb.log 2>&1 & but it is not runned on boot what am i doing wrong?
[09:59] <Lacko> Helloo
[09:59] <guest__> How do I install .deb files in Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:00] <Lacko> I can't control my fans in ubuntu, when i boot ubuntu they go up to max speed.
[10:01] <Lacko> i tried this: http://tuxtweaks.com/2008/08/how-to-control-fan-speeds-in-ubuntu/ but it said it couldnt find any fans
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> guest__  To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[10:02] <airtonix> guest__: or dpkg -i ./thing.deb
[10:03] <geirha> It opens them in the software center now adays
[10:03] <reisio> to install deb files, first make sure you can't just find the package in a repo :p
[10:06] <dev_> guys, is it possible to disable USB port for copying? but still allow the mouse & keyboard to work?
[10:07] <reisio> dev_: yeah...
[10:08] <dev_> reisio, any links or tutorials? i've been searching but no hope
[10:12] <holub> hallo
[10:12] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[10:12] <ShapeShifter499> so it appears what I need is in "/lib/modules/mykernel/drivers/platform/x86"   does that mean it will NOT load since this kernel is suppose to be 64bits?
[10:13] <tra23874> Hi, trying to run a script on startup to change the refresh rate, put it in /etc/init.d but doesn't execute, any ideas? thanks
[10:14] <geirha> tra23874: refresh rate of what?
[10:15] <tra23874> of the monitor, default is 60 Hertz and the script changes it to 85 Hertz
[10:16] <geirha> Then a script run by init won't help.
[10:17] <tra23874> is there another way to get to run automatically on start up? It works fine when I run it myself in the terminal
[10:23] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082917/  - Why the mount is failing?
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> IamTrying  pastebin the output of     sudo blkid
[10:25] <SuperLag> IamTrying: is this a CD image you're trying to mount? If so, try changing the filesystem type to "iso9660"
[10:25] <SuperLag> if I remember right
[10:26] <IamTrying> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082924/
[10:26] <IamTrying> SuperLag, YES to have it in USB Stick
[10:26] <IamTrying> SuperLag, i can still use iso9660 ?
[10:26] <Axlin_> exit
[10:28] <SuperLag> IamTrying: no, it needs to be different
[10:28] <SuperLag> I think MonkeyDust is on the right track
[10:28] <IamTrying> SuperLag, -t auto failed -t vfat failed too
[10:29] <SuperLag> hold that thought... I think you're mounting the wrong device name
[10:30] <SuperLag> IamTrying: I'm assuming since this is your machine, you've got root access, yes?
[10:30] <SuperLag> IamTrying: and since you're trying to do a mount :)
[10:31] <SuperLag> IamTrying: do this... as root... after you unplug the USB stick, run "dmesg --clear" and then plug the stick in. Then pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[10:31] <jozefk> is it possible to get external monitor attached to laptop with HDMI working? HDMI is from nVidia which is in sandy bridge
[10:31] <SuperLag> jozefk: absolutely
[10:31] <jozefk> SuperLag, how?
[10:31] <d0x> geirha: ty
[10:32] <SuperLag> jozefk: does it show up in Displays under System Settings?
[10:32] <SuperLag> jozefk: and are you actually using the proprietary Nvidia driver?
[10:32] <SuperLag> I should have asked those questions in the reverse order, actually
[10:32] <jozefk> Just like that? it will show up in settings just like that?
[10:33] <IamTrying> SuperLag, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082946/
[10:33] <jozefk> I want to try to boot live Ubuntu to see if it will work. So if the proprietary nVidia driver is intalled in live Ubuntu then yes, if not then no
[10:34] <SuperLag> jozefk: I *think* it might be... don't quote me on that
[10:34] <ikonia> jozefk: the propitary drivers are not on the livecd
[10:35] <jozefk> SuperLag, OK Thank you. At least you are giving me some hope and that's good. I will try and if I can't get it working I will come back :)
[10:35] <SuperLag> IamTrying: Okay. Yes. You're just trying to mount the wrong device. Change /dev/loop2 to /dev/sdc1, and try it that way
[10:35] <IamTrying> SuperLag, OK i was doing this # modprobe loop; losetup /dev/loop2 DellBIOS.img; fdisk -lu /dev/loop2 ; mount -o offset=32256 /dev/loop2 /mnt
[10:35] <SuperLag> jozefk: if they're there... or not.... I'd still try it. You've got nothing to lose.
[10:36] <IamTrying> SuperLag, i need to write it to USB later, cause i have another image to merge with /mnt
[10:36] <jozefk> Next month we will have a new Ubuntu yeah?
[10:36] <IamTrying> SuperLag, OR i am lost confused.. let me try yours
[10:36] <SuperLag> jozefk: unless you're brave and running the beta already
[10:37] <SuperLag> IamTrying: hold on.
[10:37] <jozefk> beta from 1 month before final release should be good enough in my opinion
[10:37] <SuperLag> IamTrying: I think this is all you'll need -> mount -t vfat /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> jozefk  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[10:38]  * SuperLag hugs the /openurl script for irssi :)
[10:38] <Twenty-three> hi guys, i rencent update has left me without launcher in unity, i use nvidia propietary drivers, i have checked the compizconfig settings manager and there doesn't seem to be any problem with unity in there, how to go about it?
[10:38] <IamTrying> SuperLag, OK i will try now this, but why someone was writing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6082959/
[10:39] <jozefk> thanks MonkeyDust
[10:39] <IamTrying> SuperLag, One image is from Dell to flush bios and another image for Booting to DOS
[10:39] <IamTrying> both needs to come to /dev/sdc? SuperLag
[10:44] <SuperLag> IamTrying: hold on just a second... looking at something from work. I haven't forgotten you. :)
[10:46] <IamTrying> SuperLag, OK - i was trying there instruction ( https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Flashing_BIOS_from_Linux ) i need to update the BIOS of Dell
[10:47] <blazemore> Is there a way I can just check if I can connect OK to a mysql server? If I run the "mysql" command to check it puts me in a prompt, which means I can't use it in a script.
[10:54] <shooter> hey
[11:03] <Drei> Hey guys, I need help. I tried to install the AMD Catalyst Driver but it failed. I lost the Unity bar and sudo apt-get install xorg-xserver is not working
[11:04] <peter110> is there Ubuntu like unity 2d launcher that can work on windows 7?
[11:05] <Drei> Anyone? Please.. I can't use my PC
[11:06] <auronandace> peter110: unity is not designed for windows
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> peter110  like this? http://www.noobslab.com/2011/09/ubuntu-unity-skin-for-windows-7-or-xp.html
[11:09] <peter110> so i can use the launcher only if i install ununtu skin?
[11:09] <erik__> Erik
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> peter110  further questions in ##windows, it's only a windows skin
[11:11] <columb> After recent video driver change unity no longer shows bar&title. Already tried to reset unity with no luck. Windows frames are still themed as if unity is still works fine. Any ideas?
[11:17] <spartn> Hello guys
[11:17] <spartn> i've got a problem with my ubuntu
[11:18] <gordonjcp> !details | spartn
[11:18] <spartn> i have the latest version of ubuntu installed and i'm receiving this error:
[11:19] <spartn> checking for UNSHIELD... no
[11:19] <spartn> configure: error: unruu requires at least version 0.9 of libunshield
[11:19] <spartn> but it's quite strange as i have already installed libunshield by using ubuntu software center
[11:19] <spartn> can someone help please
[11:20] <spartn> and i'm getting that error while running ./configure
[11:21] <gordonjcp> spartn: have you installed libunshield-dev ?
[11:21] <spartn> yes i have
[11:21] <gordonjcp> mmm
[11:21] <intellectus> I'm using Lubuntu 10.04. How do I change the default keyring password?  (Yes, i already asked in #lubuntu and got no answer).
[11:21] <gordonjcp> spartn: definitely installed the -dev package?
[11:21] <spartn> yes by using apt-get install
[11:22] <gordonjcp> spartn: could be that the version installed is too old
[11:22] <spartn> i have installed the latest 1.0.1
[11:22] <Drei> Can I reinstall Ubuntu but keep all my files?
[11:22] <b0unce> Drei: you can save your files , then reinstall
[11:23] <spartn> that version was for libunshield
[11:23] <Drei> Darn..
[11:23] <spartn> any idea what i can check or please :)
[11:24] <xro> Hi, i have an issue with empathy and facebook... i get the following message "Facebook account requires authorisation"
[11:24] <xro> do you know it? is there a workaround...
[11:24] <b0unce> xro: you have to deauth and re-auth the permission from facebook
[11:24] <geirha> Drei: If /home is on a separate partition, yes.
[11:25] <Drei> Then I guess it really is not an option. Can I do stuff with the terminal (like reconfigure X.Org) so I can fix the desktop?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> xro  contact facebook
[11:27] <xro> do you have zuvkerberg phone?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> !ot | xro
[11:28] <xro> B0unce: yep i did...
[11:28] <SuperLag> IamTrying: still here?
[11:28] <p1l0t> Is it not possible to rem out a line in crontab AFTER the # m h dom mon dow user	command
[11:29] <p1l0t> line?
[11:29] <xro> MonkeyDust, as there is a known bug describing this problem... i think about an ubuntu/empathy problem...
[11:29] <SuperLag> IamTrying: my apologies for the delay.
[11:30] <p1l0t> I have a line # 01 3* * *root after that and it runs it anyway despite the # before the line.
[11:30] <geirha> p1l0t: Hm. It shouldn't.
[11:30] <jrib> p1l0t: where do you have this line?
[11:31] <olspookishmagus> long time haven't logged in ubuntuforums, at least it's first time after the recovery on the attack
[11:31] <olspookishmagus> WHY is my username renamed? can I rename it back?
[11:31] <jrib> olspookishmagus: #ubuntuforums
[11:31]  * olspookishmagus tickles jrib 
[11:31] <p1l0t> geirha: jrib: It is in-between # m h dom mon dow  command and the # after where all the entries are made
[11:32] <jrib> p1l0t: what file do you have this line in
[11:32] <p1l0t> jrib: crontab
[11:32] <jrib> p1l0t: how did you edit it (exactly)?
[11:32] <p1l0t> jrib: vim
[11:32] <jrib> p1l0t: "vim" opens up a blank text editor.
[11:33] <p1l0t> jrib: sudo vim crontab
[11:33] <p1l0t> from the /etc directory
[11:33] <geirha> p1l0t: Are you sure the job is not listed in other crontabs?
[11:33] <jrib> p1l0t: you can restart crontab but editing that file *should* just work as cron detects changes there
[11:34] <jrib> s/crontab/cron
[11:34] <geirha> p1l0t: E.g. it might have an entry in /etc/cron.d/* /etc/cron.daily or   sudo crontab -l
[11:35] <p1l0t> geirha: that's usually the only I mess with but I will double check. jrib: I'll try restarting it.
[11:36] <TNTS> Hi guys how do I fix the error "Can't load firmware "radeon/TAHITI_uvd.bin" ?
[11:36] <p1l0t> geirha: Yeah crontab is the only one running daily for my backups
[11:38]  * mad smirks at the middlefiger Intel just gave ubuntu :D
[11:38] <olspookishmagus> mad: link?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> olspookishmagus  it's about Mir, Intel does not want to support it
[11:39] <TNTS> Okay, how do I fix the Unity interface. I lost everything, the Dash, the Launcher, the Tray on the top and all I got left is a Wallpaper. Reinstalling X.Org does nothing
[11:40] <TNTS> Anyone?
[11:41] <mad> olspookishmagus: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/commit/?id=58a7611ccfda88c7cbcc62b25b787d6b0fa64081&utm_source=anzwix
[11:42] <mad> MonkeyDust: XMir (which equals mostly 'supporting MIR', but yet is not the same)
[11:47] <pero_p> hi, my system crashed about 2 minutes ago and i have to reset my computer by case button, what log file i should look in to find out what cause this crash?!
[11:49] <varunendra> pero_p, log files in /var/log, especially syslog.1 and dmesg.0
[11:50] <IamTrying> SuperLag, Now trying this. http://www.math.ucla.edu/~jimc/documents/bugfix/10-linux-bios-flash.html
[11:51] <IamTrying> SuperLag, It has to work.
[11:51] <IamTrying> I got 10 minute for dead-line, over stressed now. Need urgent BIOS update so that it does not freeze on remote reboot. Scary moment :LOL
[11:52] <pero_p> varunendra, seems this caused the problem: CRON[18324]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[11:53] <pero_p> varunendra, i looked into this folder and it's empty
[11:53] <pero_p> varunendra, but all other cron.* have at least 1 file in them
[11:53] <pero_p> varunendra, any idea?
[11:53] <varunendra> pero_p, which folder? cron.hourly seems to be a file
[11:54] <pero_p> but for me /etc/cron.hourly is folder
[11:54] <varunendra> maybe. I'm not familiar with cron much
[11:54] <pero_p> varunendra, thanx anyway
[11:55] <varunendra> :)
[11:55] <varunendra> by the way, it is empty for me too. Looks like it is a place for custom cronjob files
[11:55] <gillzon> how can i link a directory to a group? the group should can  Read and Write to the dir?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> gillzon: look into chgrp
[11:56] <gillzon> i will! thx
[11:56] <pero_p> varunendra, so this is not the problem, :(
[11:56] <pero_p> varunendra, it's bad that you don't know the problem, then you cannot do anything about it!
[11:57] <varunendra> pero_p, no. I looked into run-parts, and looks like that directory could be a place for the report file it could generate. Look into syslog closely.
[11:58]  * varunendra is wrong again, /etc/cron.hourly actually holds cronjob scripts it seems.
[12:04] <pero_p> varunendra, seems it's a kernel crash due to lock all system(even keyboard led's)
[12:06] <varunendra> pero_p, doesn't make much sense to me ;) . Kernel panic okay, system froze okay, but what caused it all? Usual suspects are buggy driver, low memory, I/O errors, acpi errors etc.
[12:07] <gordonjcp> jrgiffo17: why so many of you?
[12:07] <Johnny_Linux> wow. 17 of them
[12:08] <l0p3n> Hello! I'm using ps2pdf to create a pdf from a postscript file. The postscript was made from a plain text file of 4 pages. Does anyone know how to reduce the file size of the PDF?
[12:09] <pero_p> varunendra, thanks anyway. i hope this fix in near future in next updates!
[12:09] <pero_p> varunendra, bye
[12:09] <varunendra> bye :)
[12:09] <l0p3n> The file size of the PDF is now 1.7 MB
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> l0p3n: can imagemagic not make a pdf out of the PS? Or can you print the PS through a PDF printer etc?
[12:15] <Avgva2> hey
[12:15] <l0p3n> ActionParsnip: I have no idea, but I'm looking it up =) Thanks
[12:17] <gal> Hello all, i am using qemu with ubuntu os and i VNC to the guest OS but when i do that i see the ubuntu background right but the toolbar color is really bad and i cant even open terminal window and see what i write, anyone can help?
[12:18] <gal> (if i open the terminal window i just see white screen...)
[12:22] <IamTrying> http://linux.dell.com/repo/community/content/sles11-i386/i586/ - Where can i find this packages for Ubuntu 13.x ?
[12:27] <varunendra> l0p3n, what are you trying to achieve ?
[12:27] <jadron>  hello i installed mrtg under ubuntu when i start it i got bugs about SNMP_Session.pm
[12:28] <jadron> ...usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.4/SNMP_Session.pm line 608
[12:28] <l0p3n> varunendra: I am trying to reduce the file size of the PDF to below 1MB
[12:28] <l0p3n> * to a size below 1MB
[12:28] <varunendra> l0p3n, what is the current size and what is the type of contents?
[12:30] <l0p3n> varunendra: I have reduced it to 1,4MB. The file contains four pages of plain text.
[12:30] <l0p3n> in UTF-8 format
[12:31] <l0p3n> I made a postscript file of the plain text file using paps.
[12:32] <varunendra> Did you try printing it with PDF printer (the default one in Ubuntu)?
[12:32] <varunendra> l0p3n, ^^
[12:33] <l0p3n> varunendra: No I think I haven't. I don't think I have it installed :P
[12:33] <l0p3n> I'm using the server release.
[12:34] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|l0p3n,
[12:35] <l0p3n> aha ok =)
[12:36] <HexaByte> Hi guys, any1 has a working Ubuntu 12.04 VHD for CouldStack 4.1.1 with XS 6.0.2, that is willing to share with me?
[12:37] <varunendra> l0p3n, try "gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sOutputFile=<output file> -f <source file>"
[12:37] <cfhowlett> l0p3n, wait, I just realized you're working a PDF issue, not a server issue.  sorry
[12:37] <jadron> please anybody help ?
[12:37] <jadron> i cant fix mrtg bugs how can i get patchs for ubuntu?
[12:39] <blazemore> !details | jadron
[12:39] <Avgva2> !commands
[12:39] <Avgva2> cool bot
[12:39] <Avgva2> what language is it written in?
[12:39] <blazemore> !ot
[12:40] <l0p3n> varunendra: I tried your suggestion, unfortunately it didn't reduce the file size :/
[12:40] <varunendra> l0p3n, did you try it on the ps or pdf file?
[12:41] <l0p3n> On the pdf, maybe I should try it on the ps file?
[12:41] <varunendra> l0p3n, I just reduced a 2.4 MB file to 333 KB with that (16 pages of text and images)
[12:42] <l0p3n> varunendra: Executing it with the .ps file as the input file resulted in a PDF with the file size of 1.8MB
[12:43] <l0p3n> Something must be wrong with my .ps file ...
[12:43] <varunendra> l0p3n, what is the size of pages?
[12:43] <varunendra> l0p3n, are there links/bookmarks in it? Too many?
[12:43] <l0p3n> 4 pages in total, it's just a plain text file written in nano
[12:44] <jadron> i have a problem with mrtg running under ubuntu 11.10 when i start it it shows errors related with SNMP_Session
[12:44] <jadron> SNMP_Session::AF_INET6
[12:45] <l0p3n> varunendra: No there aren't any links nor bookmarks in it.
[12:45] <varunendra> l0p3n, the one I tried here was US-Letter size [US Letter, Portrait (216 × 279 mm)] - 16 pages with text and images (manual for a Siemens router)
[12:47] <DRatJr> Wanted to get a couple of answers concerning the Ubuntu forums.
[12:47] <l0p3n> varunendra: What if I use another encoding such as e.g. ACSII, would that maybe reduce the file size of the resulting PDF?
[12:47] <jadron> Starting mrtg, it complains about redefined SNMP_Session::AF_INET6:
[12:47] <DRatJr> Anyone down to answer them?
[12:47] <l0p3n> *ASCII
[12:48] <usr13> DRatJr: Ask and see.
[12:48] <Zoiaguyver> DRatJr: Just ask If someone is able to answer they will.
[12:49] <varunendra> l0p3n, I don't think that should matter. UTF-8 is supported everywhere and is not such a problem. But trying won't hurt ;). You may also try filtering the current pdf with pdftk, then retry the gs command.
[12:50] <varunendra> l0p3n, I don't know if pdftk can install on a server though. I can use it from command line, but I think it comes with GUI.
[12:50] <usr13> DRatJr: (We sincerely hope that all 1600-1800 so don't try and tell you whether it is a good idea to ask a question or not.)
[12:50] <OerHeks> DRatJr, join #ubuntuforums might be a better idea
[12:50] <DRatJr> I don't know much about WHY Ubuntu forums switched to the "Login with SSO" or really what "SSO" is. I ASSUME it is in response to the Ubuntu forums being "compromised" but I have no clue. Now my question is, is there ANY way to constantly stay logged in? I use the forum on my computer AND my phone, and it's just a hassle to always have to follow the "Login with SSO" link to be redirected, allow the forums to log me in, and then be logged
[12:51] <OerHeks> Dingle sign on, very usefull with forum, ubuntu-one, launchpad and more
[12:51] <OerHeks> *single
[12:53] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:53] <DRatJr> What's the command to join another channel? Lol
[12:53] <DRatJr> Nevermind. Lol.
[12:53] <l0p3n> varunendra: Ok I'll give you in update if find any solution. Thanks for the help!
[12:53] <varunendra> np :)
[12:55] <DRatJr> Well, nobody is on now in ubuntuforums to answer my question. Can anyone in here answer it?
[12:55] <Sysamp> Hello. I have a question that i have been trying to find the answer for: Is fglrx modifiable and redistributable?
[12:55] <jadron> how to reinstall a package please
[12:55] <jadron> i have problems on perl
[12:55] <jadron> what is the command to reinstall
[12:58] <cfhowlett> jadron, depends.  was this package from the software center?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> Sysamp, redistributable?   sure.  mod?  I don't know.
[13:00] <Sysamp> hm. I was wondering, since it says that ATI Catalyst is both proprietary and shareware
[13:00] <SimonZes> hello
[13:00] <cfhowlett> SimonZes, greetings.
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Sysamp, fglrx is opensource, is it not?
[13:01] <Sysamp> I read somewhere that ATI allows its linux drivers to be modified and redistributed. Thank you cfhowlett
[13:01] <Sysamp> radeon is opensource driver
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Sysamp, no worries.  have fun.
[13:01] <Sysamp> fglrx = ATI Catalyst, which is AMD/ATI's proprietary video driver
[13:02] <curfont> Hi guys, I need some help trying to fix my xorg config
[13:02] <curfont> I basically have a server which is running raring, and I recently connected it to a TV (DVI->HDMI), it has an Nvidia GTX 275 in it
[13:03] <curfont> It shows GDM just fine, but when I try to log in it just goes back into GDM, flashes for a second
[13:03] <curfont> I think it has to do with the driver, I tried using Jockey text but it says "not in use"
[13:03] <geirha> Sysamp: Shareware just means you're allowed to share it.
[13:05] <Sysamp> That is true geirha, but as far as I know just some parts of it are shareware, while the rest are proprietary. Anyway, i am just interested to know if fglrx is modifiable and redistributable (AMD Catalyst).
[13:06] <ChogyDan> curfont: you could check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, or lshw -C video
[13:06] <curfont> ChogyDan: I did, I can't see any errors in there, it's quite strange
[13:06] <curfont> let me check lshw
[13:07] <l0p3n> varunendra: I found a solution to it! Instead of using paps I used groff -Tps <input_file>.txt > <output_file>.ps. Now the file size of the PDF is 11KB =)
[13:07] <ChogyDan> curfont: I take it this is a non-standard install
[13:07] <geirha> Sysamp: Proprietary just means that it's closed software. The term shareware is generally only used for proprietary software.
[13:07] <b0x> how can i disable the mouse "screen wrap"
[13:08] <geirha> *closed source
[13:08] <b0x> every time i move my mouse to the right side
[13:08] <b0x> it appears on the left
[13:08] <varunendra> l0p3n, wow! I wish we could see the properties of the source and the final file. But going to note that command for now..  Thanks for sharing :)
[13:08] <curfont> ChogyDan: it's a server install, and it's the first time I am using it with a monitor so it's probably not setup correctly. It does work through VNC though
[13:08] <b0x> i saw mention of window manager settings in a forum
[13:08] <HexaByte> Hi guys, any1 has a working Ubuntu 12.04 VHD for CouldStack 4.1.1 with XS 6.0.2, that is willing to share with me?
[13:08] <b0x> but cant find it in ubuntu 13.04
[13:08] <curfont> I was wondering if there was some sort of "reset" for the xorg config
[13:08] <curfont> or auto detect
[13:09] <b0x> theres something like dconf -reset /etc/x11/xconf.org
[13:09] <l0p3n> varunendra: =)
[13:09] <b0x> i had todo it recently to unbrake nvidia drivers
[13:09] <curfont> ChogyDan: http://pastebin.ca/2446470
[13:09] <curfont> ah
[13:09] <curfont> let me try that
[13:10] <geirha> Sysamp: Some proprietary software costs money, and you are not allowed to share it with your friends. Some proprietary software doesn't cost money, and you're not allowed to share it. Some proprietary software doesn't cost money, but you *are* allowed to share it.
[13:10] <ChogyDan> curfont: I think everything is auto detect, so you can just delete xorg.conf if you have one.
[13:10] <varunendra> l0p3n, looks like you created a ps file. What did you use to convert it to pdf? Convert command?
[13:10] <curfont> error: Error spawning command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=859ca77113041e47c39abe744c01a2dc --binary-syntax --close-stderr': Child process exited with code 1
[13:10] <curfont> hmm
[13:10] <ChogyDan> curfont: it is using the nvidia driver
[13:11] <curfont> ok good
[13:12] <l0p3n> varunendra: Nothing fancy, just the basic ps2pdf input_file >output_file =)
[13:12] <ChogyDan> curfont: I'm not sure why gdm, but maybe you want a more standard install
[13:13] <curfont> ChogyDan: I could always just remove everything and reinstall the standard stuff
[13:13] <Sysamp> Thank you geirha; AMD Catalyst is proprietary, wikipedia says it's partly freeware.
[13:13] <curfont> what do I install?
[13:13] <curfont> (please not unity :P)
[13:13] <ChogyDan> curfont: ubuntu-desktop?
[13:13] <varunendra> l0p3n, simplicity rules :)
[13:13] <l0p3n> l0p3n: Indeed :)
[13:14] <curfont> ok its removing gnome and installing ubuntu stuff now
[13:14] <curfont> another issue, how do you get TV monitors (1080p) to work with console?
[13:14] <curfont> they dont support lower resolutions :(
[13:15] <curfont> so it just says "No Signal" when you switch to a console
[13:22] <FrankBullitt> In the latest release of ubuntu how do I navigate to the root folder from the gui?
[13:23] <FrankBullitt> I used to click on the folder name at the top of the window, but that doesn't work now.
[13:27] <curfont> now it flashes the nvidia logo but it still doesnt log me in
[13:27] <curfont> heh
[13:27] <curfont> maybe my user config is wrong
[13:28] <BlueInsides> Hi everyone, I need to help setting permissions on some files on my Ubuntu server. I have a file with the following permissions '-rw-------' when I do 'ls -l' and I need it to be '-rw-r--r--' I need help with the chmod command.  I know it is 'chmod xxx filename' but not sure what numbers I should put in place of the xxx
[13:28] <curfont> how do I reset that?
[13:30] <IAmNotARobot>  identify JordanAndSmith
[13:30] <IAmNotARobot> lolasdf
[13:31] <FrankBullitt> BlueInsides: chmod 644 file
[13:31] <OerHeks> BlueInsides, i think 644 > http://www.onlineconversion.com/html_chmod_calculator.htm
[13:32] <ChogyDan> BlueInsides: r=4,w=2,x=1, add them up
[13:33] <BlueInsides> Thanks FrankBullitt and OerHeks.
[13:33] <deepak_rai_> my grub menu time is only 4 seconds before the default option gets selected. Does anyone know how to increase it
[13:33] <geirha> or  chmod go+r  to just add those two missing bits
[13:33] <serethUbuntu> hi, I'm having trouble with reinstalling grub2. While creating a live disk grub was overwritten on disk sdb. I launched from a spare live usb disk and installed grub again with grub-install without errors. I also tried the boot repair program with this as result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6083288/ - the bios however, still refuses to boot the disk
[13:34] <BlueInsides> ChogyDan: I'm still a newbie with Linux really and I've seen sites mentioning what you have but need to study a bit more as I don't get the adding up bit as it doesn't equal 644
[13:35] <xvzf> hi there, I hear sound only when logging in, but not afterwards. What can be the problem? I run Ubuntu 13.04 on an old macbook pro
[13:35] <ChogyDan> BlueInsides: first one is rw, 4+2=6, next is r, 4, last is also r, 4
[13:36] <ChogyDan> BlueInsides: so each is in it's own slot basically
[13:36] <foobarenko> I
[13:37] <ChogyDan> serethUbuntu: what happens when you try to boot?
[13:37] <OerHeks> xvzf maybe you need to install restricted extras, the login sound is a basic soundfile
[13:37] <serethUbuntu> ChogyDan, there are three drives, windows xp, ubuntu and win7. Depending on the configuration it will boot one of the two windows drives
[13:37] <serethUbuntu> regardless of ubuntu being the first
[13:37] <xvzf> OerHeks: not the szs
[13:38] <xvzf> system sounds are missing, but I do not hear the sound of videos, for example
[13:38] <curfont> ChogyDan: I added a new user, and it works nicely, what files do I need to copy over to my old user for the X settings?
[13:38] <varunendra> deepak_rai_, open your /etc/default/grub file with root access > look for line that says "GRUB_TIMEOUT=" > set its value to 10 ("GRUB_TIMEOUT=10"). Then do "sudo update-grub".
[13:38] <serethUbuntu> in addition, the two windows drives do not contain grub2 sectors. I only want grub2 to be part of sdb where ubuntu resides. The ubuntu disk is the first disk in the bios boot list.
[13:39] <curfont> oh, what, I am getting lots of popups "Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error"
[13:39] <ChogyDan> curfont: you might as well take a look, but those might all be from your previous login attempts
[13:40] <ChogyDan> curfont: I don't know what to copy.  The only thing I know of is to delete xorg.onf
[13:40] <ChogyDan> *xorg.conf
[13:40] <curfont> hmm
[13:42] <BlueInsides> ChogyDan: but if when I look at it there is 10 places to put a rwx and only 3 numbers. But then I see the 'd' at the start of the directories. Should I just ignore the first entry where d is or could be. Is this only to show its a dir or is it required to calc the number for the permission when its a dir?
[13:42] <ChogyDan> serethUbuntu: do you get any sort of grub msgs?  I think you can try holding shift during start
[13:43] <deepak_rai_> Thanks varunendra
[13:43] <serethUbuntu> ChogyDan, it skips the disk entirely - I could try rebooting and seeing what shift will do
[13:44] <varunendra> np deepak_rai_ :)
[13:44] <ChogyDan> BlueInsides: ignore the fist character, as like you said, it specifies whether it is a directory.  Each set of 3 forms a number, so _ _ _ . _ _ _ . _ _ _
[13:46] <BlueInsides> ChogyDan: Thanks, makes sense now. Thanks for your help.
[13:48] <Corey> Uh...
[13:49] <neonlight> installed 12.04 in a uefi asus notebook afterwards i installed grub-efi-amd64. gives me blank screen after choosing ubuntu in grub menu
[13:51] <fire__> how can i setup a local mirror ?
[13:51] <neonlight> installed 12.04 in a uefi asus notebook afterwards i installed grub-efi-amd64. gives me blank screen after choosing ubuntu in grub menu also diabled secure boot
[13:52] <Corey> End of Lastlog
[13:52] <fire__> Corey, how can i setup a local mirror ?
[13:53] <fire__> there is also a channel for ubuntu mirror if i remember
[13:53] <Corey> fire__: I cheat and use either apt-mirror, or cobbler to do that.
[13:53] <FrankBullitt> In the latest release of ubuntu how do I navigate to the root folder from the gui?
[13:53] <fire__> Corey, any tutorial or something to do ? because i am a complete novice
[13:54] <neonlight> installed 12.04 in a uefi asus notebook afterwards i installed grub-efi-amd64. gives me blank screen after choosing ubuntu in grub menu also diabled secure boot
[13:57] <neonlight> installed 12.04 in a uefi asus notebook afterwards i installed grub-efi-amd64. gives me blank screen after choosing ubuntu in grub menu also diabled secure boot. anybody? why is ubuntu not loading
[14:00] <varunendra> neonlight, did you try various boot options available : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[14:01] <varunendra> neonlight, and use a Boot-Repair bootable disc to easily try/change the boot options : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:01] <fire__>  /join #ubuntu-mirrors
[14:01] <neonlight> varunendra, let me try
[14:03] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[14:04] <ThePendulum> I am trying to connect to our school's wifi network, but it keeps asking me for authentication. I have no issues connecting to my WAPs at home, nor does Windows have an issue with the WAPs at school. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.
[14:05] <FrankBullitt> In the latest release of ubuntu how do I navigate to the root folder from the gui?
[14:06] <varunendra> FrankBullitt, doesn't it show "filesystem" in the left hand pane? That's root.
[14:06] <ThePendulum> FrankBullitt: Click 'Computer' in Nautilus (the file manager)
[14:06] <ThePendulum> (I think)
[14:07] <FrankBullitt> ThePendulum: That's it. thanks.
[14:07] <varunendra> ThePendulum, please follow instructions in this post to download and run wireless_script : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[14:08] <ThePendulum> varunendra: I'll have a read, thanks.
[14:08] <universal> I downloaded a test.sh file.....how to run this file ?
[14:08] <varunendra> ThePendulum, use the "Alternate" version of the script from the link at the bottom of the post. Then post back the pastebin link to the report it generates.
[14:09] <ThePendulum> varunendra: I'm at school and I just found out I can't really click/copy links through SSH. Wat google query would lead me to that link?
[14:09] <varunendra> universal, ./test.sh if it is in your Home (or in the same directory where you are in the terminal)
[14:09] <varunendra> ThePendulum, just copy-paste the link in browser ?
[14:10] <ThePendulum> varunendra: I tried that, but putty is giving me a hard time
[14:11] <mathfreak> ThePendulum: I haven't used putty in a while. You can't highlight any text, right?
[14:12] <abd-allah> I'm trying to install a map app but it says 'The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources.'
[14:12] <abd-allah> what to do?
[14:12] <abd-allah> pls
[14:13] <ThePendulum> mathfreak: I can highlight it, but not copy it or anything
[14:13] <varunendra> ThePendulum, you can google "Wild Man wireless_script" or "varunendra Wireless Script"... I hope that would lead you to one of the posts where that post is referred. Add Ubuntu Forums if needed. ;)
[14:13] <ChogyDan> abd-allah: if you trust the source, go ahead and install
[14:13] <ThePendulum> varunendra: Aight, thanks :) Sorry if I come in here again with the same question.
[14:13] <abd-allah> will i press 'OK' or 'Repair'
[14:14] <ChogyDan> abd-allah: can you pastebin the output you are looking at?
[14:14] <abd-allah> how ?
[14:15] <ChogyDan> !pastebin | abd-allah
[14:17] <abd-allah> ChogyDan:http://imagebin.org/270353
[14:17] <abd-allah> http://imagebin.org/270353
[14:17] <unity-gl> opengl is not working on my pc which causes unity to crash. what can i do?
[14:18] <unity-gl> this is the output of unity --replace http://pastebin.com/ZSJ8nEPq
[14:18] <ChogyDan> abd-allah: I'd say just hit repair
[14:19] <abd-allah> it now started 'Updating Cache'
[14:20] <lpapp> hi, who should own the /var/www folder?
[14:21] <unity-gl> guys how to stop opengl from crashing ? i can't run unity because of it
[14:22] <mackwerk> Hmm, my window manager has crashed without warning 2 times today, does it log to some where?
[14:22] <adamk> unity-gl: What video card and drivers?
[14:22] <OerHeks> lpapp www-data i guess
[14:23] <unity-gl> adamk: its a very old PC, bought in 2006 . something embeded i guess
[14:23] <lpapp> OerHeks: yeah, just tried that.
[14:24] <OerHeks> lpapp for easy control, make your user member of www-data
[14:24] <lpapp> OerHeks: I need the webservice to write it
[14:24] <lpapp> so yes, I guess I will need to add that user to the group.
[14:25] <BluesKaj> unity-gl, sudo lshw -C video
[14:27] <gr33n7007h> Is there any free VPN's that don't keep a log
[14:28] <unity-gl> BluesKaj: adamk http://pastebin.com/WCwUxxH8
[14:32] <tasslehoff> I have installed 13.04 on a retina macbook pro, and want to run with 1680x1050 resolution. When I do, things look less then sharp. Is that to be expected, or should the scaling be good?
[14:32] <unity-gl> any idea? how to get opengl running
[14:32] <tasslehoff> does it matter if I run noveau or the nvidia driver?
[14:33] <curfont> ChogyDan: how do I add Options to xorg after I removed xorg?
[14:33] <curfont> How do I generate a new one?
[14:33] <ChogyDan> curfont: I don't know, but maybe try the nvidia-config tool, or xrander or something
[14:35] <unity-gl> guys any idea how to fix opengl to run unity
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> odd: arandr, frontend to xrandr, exists in raring, but xrandr doesnt
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: which GPU?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: and which release?
[14:37] <OerHeks> curfont, follow these steps http://askubuntu.com/a/281685
[14:38] <unity-gl> ActionParsnip: 13.04 and http://pastebin.com/WCwUxxH8
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-intelr-linux-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu-13-04.html
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: not the best Intel GPU around
[14:41] <unity-gl> ActionParsnip: so what would you recomend to make unity run?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: try the installer, your GPU is listed in the list of chips
[14:47] <gigantor> so, if upon upgrading a server instance, it is hung on selecting a PAM profile and has deleted everything , like apt, what can I do?
[14:48] <somsip>  bratva
[14:48] <somsip> oops
[14:50] <gigantor> no halp? I thought this was supposedly the most halpful channel on freenode
[14:50] <georgetso> greetings!
[14:50] <kostkon> !patience|raininja
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> gigantor  repeat your question every 15 minutes or so, in one line, until someone enters who knows the answer
[14:51] <georgetso> I ran into a problem. I disallowed password-login on my ubuntu vps, but forgot to add my public key to authorized_keys. so anyway to get access to my vps?
[14:52] <b0x> erm
[14:52] <raijin> georgetso: do you have a cpanel or something you can access? you can add a key that way
[14:52] <georgetso> raijin: nope, it's unmanaged
[14:53] <raijin> idk
[14:55] <universal> downloaded a TEST.sh file from net and excuted it terminal....output - ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo Downloads/TEST.sh  Downloads/TEST.sh: 14: Downloads/TEST.sh: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string.....what does it mean ?
[14:56] <ChogyDan> universal: careful running random scripts from the net.  I think it just means there is a problem with the script
[14:56] <universal> ChogyDan: ok...so what to do with it now ?
[14:57] <ChogyDan> universal: you could pastebin it
[14:57] <ergotron> im trying to install norton 360, but everytime I double click it, it does nothing.
[14:57] <klcant> I would agree with ChogyDan ... sounds like script has issues
[14:57] <universal> the contents of file ? ChogyDan
[14:57] <ChogyDan> universal: yeah
[14:57] <universal> ok
[14:58] <lone> how to paste image?
[14:58] <ChogyDan> !paste | lone
[14:59] <universal> lone: you can also paste to tiikoni.com/tis/upload
[15:00] <universal> i mean upload
[15:00] <ergotron> why cant i get norton 360 installed?
[15:00] <ergotron> :(
[15:00] <ChogyDan> ergotron: are you running Ubuntu?
[15:00] <ergotron> yes
[15:00] <ergotron> i double click the norton360 installer
[15:01] <ergotron> hmm why do i get amazon advertisments when i do search?
[15:01] <ergotron> its worse than bing.
[15:01] <lone> http://imagebin.org/270361
[15:02] <universal> ChogyDan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6083784/ klcant
[15:02] <ergotron> bing has better results too
[15:02] <ChogyDan> ergotron: I think you are trying to install a windows thing.  There are options for antivirus, but you don't need it usually
[15:02] <ergotron> i guess i can make do without norton for a while
[15:02] <ChogyDan> universal: :P  that's not a script, that's a webpage.  no wonder it didn't run
[15:02] <unity-gl> ActionParsnip: i followed the guide, installed everything thing. unity still crashes :( only metacity works
[15:03] <hero100> in vim, (r !date +%F) didn't work, why
[15:03] <universal> ChogyDan: ohh....but its extension is '.sh'
[15:03] <lone> http://imagebin.org/270363
[15:03] <lone> pls fix this error
[15:04] <lone> ChogyDan: pls
[15:04] <ChogyDan> lone: can you try updating from the command line?
[15:04] <unity-gl> lone:  open termianl. sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:04] <lone> ChogyDan:sudo apt-get update/upgrade
[15:05] <raijin> I just broke my install using upgrade
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: try setting it as the WM in a terminal, the output may give clues
[15:05] <ChogyDan> lone: correct, what unity-gl said was correct
[15:05] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[15:05] <raijin> probably no way to fix it right?
[15:05] <lone> ok
[15:05] <georgetso> so no answer to my problem?
[15:05] <universal> http://mail.dataone.in/do/logout?l=en-US&v=dataone the left-hand side "check account usage"  ChogyDan ergotron
[15:06] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone recommend a pdf editor for Ubuntu?
[15:06] <ChogyDan> universal: I think you need to contact that website's tech support/admin
[15:08] <OerHeks> georgetso, there are no more answers, if you locked yourself out, no cpanel, then you need to get onside to repair your broken VPS
[15:09] <ChogyDan> raijin: I think you need to provide more details than that.  And all in one line please
[15:09] <georgetso> OerHeks: that is bad news. I guess I have to reinstall the whole system
[15:09] <universal> that link is to check the internet usage and not some random script.....I was surprised when it asked to open or download the test.sh file and btw thats a new site up from a few weeks only...so I guess its not fully built
[15:09] <universal> ChogyDan: ^^^^
[15:10] <ChogyDan> universal: I know, it's broken
[15:10] <raijin> ChogyDan: I did a sudo apt-get upgrade -f on my 10.04 LTS server instance, it proceeded to remove a bunch of stuff, including sudo, and now is hung, asking to select from a list of non-existant profiles
[15:11] <unity-gl> ActionParsnip: this is the output http://pastebin.com/UzA4CnZX
[15:11] <universal> ChogyDan: thnx man :)
[15:11] <ChogyDan> raijin: yeah, that sounds bad
[15:12] <raijin> without sudo or ssh, I am fked basically
[15:12] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone please?
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  inkscape can edit pdf's
[15:13] <Wiz_KeeD> inkscape, let me try, thaks!
[15:14] <Wiz_KeeD> Inkscape Vector Graphics editor MonkeyDust ?
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  maybe this link is useful http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-pdf-editing-tools-for-ubuntu.html
[15:16] <tjad> Hi
[15:16] <tjad> Is it possible to create a process belonging to a group ?
[15:16] <tjad> that the group can control
[15:17] <tjad> I'd like to send a kill sig to the process from any user within a particular group
[15:19] <raijin> it is impossible to login wihtout PAM right?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: what is the output of:  uname -a
[15:19] <LucidGuy> Anyone have experience with SLI setups on an Ubuntu workstation?
[15:20] <andybrine> Evening Everyone
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> tjad: http://serverfault.com/questions/325128/unix-permissions-to-allow-group-users-to-kill-each-others-processes   could use sudoers
[15:20] <unity-gl> ActionParsnip: xfwm4 works but unity and gala doesn't
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> unity-gl: what is the output of:  uname -a
[15:21] <tjad> ActionParsnip: ah wow, thanks Will take a look
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> tjad: be very careful with that file
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> I have switched to KDE and am loving it
[15:21] <tjad> ActionParsnip: k
[15:21] <andybrine> I have quite a techy question today and not sure if anyone here can help me out. Im trying to use Youtube Live Events on Ubuntu and am unable to as I need an encoder. Does anyone know an alternative to wirecast that will run on uuntu?
[15:22] <andybrine> ubuntu*
[15:23] <Pumpkin-> andybrine: I think you want gstreamer, and a quick google found http://bit.ly/18Pl5OW
[15:23] <Pumpkin-> might be a good starting point
[15:24] <tjad> ActionParsnip: Hmm ok.. so would it be advisable that I make a startup/shutdown script and only allow explicit access to that file via sudoers :?
[15:24] <bitfury_> hey guys, I have a script that runs from cron but no emails sent to Mail To address
[15:24] <bitfury_> the script has several "echo" statements, shouldn't they be emailed?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> andybrine, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[15:25] <universal> how to close a particular conversation window ? /part is for channel and not for individual user conversation window
[15:25] <andybrine> thanks Pumpkinm this is awesome
[15:25] <andybrine> I will have a good look at this
[15:25] <andybrine> yes I have ubuntu restricted extras installed
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> tjad: yes, you can add that so that only cerain users can have access to certain files using sude
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> *sudo
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> tjad: the first user just gets sudo access to all commands
[15:42] <FireBeard> hello
[15:43] <FireBeard> I have a question about a keyboard layout switcher
[15:43] <FireBeard> Mint had a nifty button to fast switch between layouts, is there something like that for 12.04 with Gnome 3 Fallback?
[15:44] <FireBeard> there's nothing in the panel addons
[15:44] <reisio> FireBeard: you might ask the mint guys what it's called, it's probably available for Ubuntu as well
[15:44] <reisio> although if it was for GNOME 3 only and not Unity, there's a chance it won't be perfectly compatible with Unity
[15:44] <FireBeard> well, I think it was a KDE thing
[15:44] <Guest75472> test
[15:44] <the_incognito> quit
[15:44] <Guest75472> quit
[15:44] <reisio> FireBeard: all the more likely it'll be simple to use on Ubuntu, then
[15:45] <john_john> how do I turn off microphone playback? I don't want to hear my own voice while speaking. I've tried typing alsamixer in the terminal and changing everything there but it either mutes the microphone or does nothing at all and I still hear myself :(
[15:45] <FireBeard> reisio: I can't seem to find a switcher tho
[15:46] <FireBeard> I was hoping to do it without installing
[15:46] <reisio> FireBeard: without installing?
[15:46] <serapath> hi
[15:47] <FireBeard> sorry, without installing something external, it'd be great if it was just a built in feature :)
[15:47] <reisio> FireBeard: yes, well :p
[15:47] <reisio> FireBeard: find out what it's called and you'll know
[15:47] <reisio> FireBeard: if it's for KDE, it's probably not out-of-repo
[15:47] <serapath> i have a small ubuntu vm using koding.com and i set up dropbox to sync a couple of files and directories, which works so far... ...but every time i leave koding.com and come back, i have to set up dropbox again
[15:47] <raijin> built in feature
[15:47] <raijin> there is no such thing in linux
[15:47] <serapath> is it possible to do that automatically?
[15:48] <reisio> serapath: what is koding.com?
[15:48] <FireBeard> raijin: in the DE
[15:48] <serapath> an online in-browser IDE with a social network that gives u one or many VM's you can administrate through a console in ur browser
[15:48] <FireBeard> but in this case, it isn't there
[15:48] <FireBeard> reisio: thanks for your help !
[15:48] <marcos_> buuuuuuuuu
[15:49] <serapath> the VM's run ubuntu afaik
[15:49] <NuSuey> anyone know why is ubuntu selecting the HDMI/displayport audio as default everytime I reboot? :o want to use other output as default
[15:49] <serapath> reisio:
[15:50] <Quest>  how to start an applicatioon or command like "java -jar filename" with gnu screen ?
[15:51] <serapath> reisio: console keeps repeating: Please visit https://www.dropbox.com/cli_link?host_id=34305f13afdce8826434d89bb4622ff184 to link this machine.
[15:51] <reisio> serapath: okay
[15:51] <reisio> Quest: when it starts, you mean?
[15:51] <serapath> and if i do, it gives me: Client successfully linked, Welcome Sera!
[15:51] <reisio> Quest: I forget, ask #screen or man screen
[15:51] <serapath> yes
[15:51] <serapath> but next time, i have to reauthenticate
[15:51] <reisio> serapath: next time after?
[15:51] <serapath> i hope its possible to make it remember it
[15:52] <reisio> serapath: closing & opening the browser?
[15:52] <serapath> when i leave koding and come back another time
[15:52] <serapath> not sure
[15:52] <serapath> i think the vm stays "up" for something between a minute and an hour
[15:52] <serapath> after that, when i come back, i have to set it up again
[15:52] <serapath> thus, files are still there, but the services i started are all down
[15:53] <serapath> and are not restarted
[15:53] <serapath> i do it manually every time
[15:53] <reisio> mmm
[15:53] <reisio> well
[15:53] <serapath> for example, its the same with my node application
[15:53] <reisio> first I would try another browser, to rule out some browser fault
[15:53] <serapath> but the apache which runs the website starts automatically
[15:53] <reisio> optimally another browser that uses another backend
[15:53] <Quest> reisio,  feeling difficultiy to understand man.   i just want to start an app inside screen.     and with meaning full name.     so should it be       screen -S myJavaApp java-jar file ?
[15:53] <serapath> tried it with chrome and firefox
[15:53] <reisio> serapath: okay
[15:53] <reisio> serapath: so you think it's something they're doing on their end?
[15:54] <reisio> serapath: if they're doing it on purpose, it might be really hard to undo
[15:54] <serapath> i'm not too sure, but somewhere in the social network of theirs, i have read that VM's power down or hibernate or something, when people go away from koding.com
[15:54] <reisio> serapath: it might be based on cookies that are given short timeouts, and you might be able to get an extension for your browser that makes cookies persist unnaturally
[15:54] <reisio> such as cookieculler for firefox (at least)
[15:54] <serapath> the reason was, that that will reduce the memory footprint on their side
[15:54] <serapath> or something like that...
[15:54] <reisio> serapath: it sounds like the kind of thing other people would want, did you search their site / online much?
[15:56] <reisio> Quest: that sounds rightish, did you try it? :)
[15:56] <serapath> i'm fine with them sending my VM into hibernate or something, but when i come back to koding.com i'd like my VM to restart all that which has stopped because of me being away for some time
[15:56] <john_john> please, I really need to turn off the microphone playback but I can't find an option for it anywhere. I checked the alsamixer settings as well as the pulseaudio ones
[15:57] <reisio> serapath: right
[15:57] <reisio> serapath: you could hack it with xdotool or something, but that'd be awful :p
[15:58] <Quest> reisio,  getting other issues.
[15:58] <reisio> serapath: three dudes in #koding
[15:58] <reisio> Quest: you should really just ask #screen, they'll know exactly what to do
[15:58] <reisio> Quest: 64 dudes in there
[15:58] <reisio> 270 in #tmux
[15:58] <Quest> reisio,  how to reattach that later?         screen -r myJavaApp?
[16:00] <reisio> Quest: probably, screen -list, screen -r foo, screen -d -r foo, etc.
[16:01] <Quest> reisio,  thx
[16:06] <Quest> how to upgrade a certain application and not all?
[16:07] <OerHeks> Quest, build a newer version yourself, or find a PPA with a newer version
[16:08] <Quest> OerHeks,  i meant by repos
[16:09] <OerHeks> Quest, if you enable backports, you will update all packages with newer versions, so that is not an answer
[16:10] <OerHeks> !backports
[16:10] <Cangaceiro> Cangaceiro
[16:13] <caimeo> test
[16:13] <irontomrackham> caimeo received
[16:14] <TauNeutrino> hey gays
[16:14] <TauNeutrino> what is it with these updates all the time?
[16:14] <reisio> TauNeutrino: ikr
[16:14] <TauNeutrino> ikr??
[16:15] <TauNeutrino> dafug is ikr?
[16:16] <reisio> something to say to a silly question :)
[16:16] <Pent> nfi
[16:16] <OerHeks> TauNeutrino, tomorrow is windows update day, ubuntu updates when the update is ready
[16:17] <TauNeutrino> no wait, that was not my question
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> TauNeutrino  last week, some guy complained because there were not enough updates
[16:17] <TauNeutrino> you just assume that I don't know that every linux distro upgrades and stuff
[16:17] <kostkon> TauNeutrino, please rephrase your question then
[16:17] <TauNeutrino> but why there are like 80 mb updates
[16:17] <reisio> no, what I assumed is that you know how to spell 'guys'
[16:17] <reisio> :)
[16:18] <Pent> guise
[16:18] <TauNeutrino> I used some other distros and there were much smaller updates, and sometimes I got things replaces and stuff
[16:18] <TauNeutrino> eats up my memory
[16:18] <reisio> TauNeutrino: well you don't have to install them
[16:18] <reisio> or even run the update manager
[16:19] <gvo> TauNeutrino: Memory?  Or disk space?
[16:19] <TauNeutrino> eehhr disk space
[16:19] <TauNeutrino> thx
[16:19] <TauNeutrino> I mean, some day I will have to buy a new pc with more disk space
[16:19] <TauNeutrino> only because of the updates
[16:20] <gvo> TauNeutrino: Normally only new kernels occupy more space.  Replaced apps are normally the same size or slightly larger.
[16:20] <Johnny_Linux> hard drives are cheap
[16:20] <TauNeutrino> and I have no overlook what is installed on ubuntu
[16:20] <OerHeks> TauNeutrino, you can run autoclean or auto-clean to remove unnessasery old versions
[16:20] <kostkon> gvo, or even smaller
[16:20] <gvo> TauNeutrino: What you see when you update is the download size not the resultant extra space.
[16:20] <TauNeutrino> hm
[16:22] <TauNeutrino> well, ok
[16:22] <universal> when doing "nmcli con down id <id>" it doesnt disconnects the connection permanently but it disconnects and then reconnects....everytime I have to keep doing "nmcli dev disconnect iface <iface>"
[16:22] <universal> for permanent disconnection
[16:23] <gvo> TauNeutrino: For instance:  Need to get 6,143 kB of archives. After unpacking 3,072 B will be used.  It'll download 6 Mb, but only increase your disk space by 3 K
[16:24] <gvo> That was doing an upgrade of a package on my system.
[16:25] <universal> and connecting via command "nmcli dev wifi connect SSID [password <pass>]" duplicates the connection meaning duplicating of "connection " to "connection 1" "connection 2" and so on the times its done by "dev wifi connect....." command
[16:27] <beef> Hi all.  With China now being so involved with Ubuntu and the new OS for China, has there been any talk of security concerns?  Backdoors built into Ubuntu?  Yadda x 3?
[16:28] <kostkon> beef, ubuntu is a foss project, the code is open to anyone.
[16:28] <reisio> beef: I don't believe China is remotely involved...
[16:28] <raijin> ubuntu is not exactly FOSS
[16:29] <reisio> if you're talking about Kylin, as with any Ubuntu derivative, they copied Ubuntu and gave it a preconfiguration and a new name
[16:29] <raijin> ^
[16:29] <OerHeks> UbuntuKylin is just ubuntu, with an other calendre and textmakeup
[16:29] <raijin> and chinese
[16:29] <raijin> obviously
[16:29] <reisio> the chances they have any actual _programmers_ / developers is quite low
[16:29] <leop> what's the easiest way to run a dedicated email server?
[16:29] <reisio> as none of that is required to copy a distro and reconfigure its DE
[16:29] <raijin> lol
[16:29] <raijin> wat
[16:29] <raijin> the probably have 10k workign on it
[16:29] <beef> reisio:  China and Canonical are using Ubuntu to build an OS which can spy on its own citizens.  They are involved.
[16:29] <reisio> raijin: nah
[16:29] <raijin> they* working*
[16:30] <raijin> um it is china
[16:30] <reisio> beef: according to?
[16:30] <neyder_> hi there, how can I create a custom desktop session, bassed in xfce, that can be choosed from lightdm
[16:30] <neyder_> ?
[16:30] <reisio> beef: anyways, Ubuntu is open source, you can audit it if you like
[16:30] <reisio> beef: I doubt you'll need to, I'm sure plenty of others do already
[16:30] <OerHeks> beef, if you are so sure, why ask ?
[16:30] <reisio> neyder_: install xfce, done?
[16:31] <reisio> neyder_: possibly create a new user for it
[16:31] <HFSPLUS> !ops | Hi guys my name is JOHN N
[16:31] <neyder_> reisio, custom, i mean, own initial wallpaper, panels configuration and menu configuration. to be loaded a new users
[16:32] <reisio> neyder_: ah, let's see...
[16:32] <reisio> neyder_: if you dpkg -L the Xfce packages, it should be obvious which files to change
[16:32] <beef> OerHeks:  They are not exactly hiding the security features.  They openly admit it.  I am concerned if any Chinese Governement developers are now working on main Ubuntu, not Kylin.
[16:32] <kostkon> beef, take your fud somewhere else
[16:32] <bazhang> !ot | beef
[16:33] <mojtaba> Hi, I have some images and I want to put them in a single pdf file. Do you know what software should I use?
[16:33] <reisio> neyder_: or the xubuntu packages, as you please
[16:33] <universal> when doing "nmcli con down id <id>" it doesnt disconnects the connection permanently but it disconnects and then reconnects....everytime I have to do "nmcli dev disconnect iface <iface>" for permanent disconnection
[16:33] <reisio> mojtaba: pdftk probably, or gs
[16:33] <reisio> mojtaba: or, imagemagick's convert + pdftk :)
[16:33] <neyder_> reisio, i did it, but after reboot, and new user, it doesn't load any customization
[16:34] <mojtaba> reisio: Can I put them all in a single pdf file?
[16:34] <reisio> yeah, probably for i in *.image; do convert "$i" "${i%.image}.pdf"; done && pdftk *pdf cat output final.pdf
[16:34] <reconmaster> if i leave the default .profile in my home directory, would that overide my .zprofile?
[16:34] <neyder_> where should i ask?
[16:35] <klcant102> mojtaba: imagemagick should be able to do what you want
[16:35] <fr0sty> Hi
[16:35] <daftykins> hi
[16:35] <reconmaster> for some reason, .zprofile isn't loading on login
[16:36] <fr0sty> I have a problem with my sound. Since i deactivated lightdm and started using openbox (by manually starting it from tty1) no sound works anymore, pavucontrol still recognizes the applications that try to use sound but i get nothing on the other end. that is the output of alsamixer
[16:36] <fr0sty> $ alsamixer Fehler beim Öffen des Mixer-Gerätes: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[16:36] <fr0sty> sry
[16:36] <universal> anyone ?
[16:37] <fr0sty> $ LANG=C alsamixer cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[16:37] <mojtaba> thanks
[16:37] <universal> !pdfeditor
[16:37] <universal> !pdf-editor
[16:37] <reisio> mojtaba: tested that command I gave, works perfectly :)
[16:38] <fr0sty> Can somebody help me please or give me a hint on where to start fixing the sound issue?
[16:38] <mojtaba> reisio: I will test it, thank you very much
[16:38] <universal> when doing "nmcli con down id <id>" it doesnt disconnects the connection permanently but it disconnects and then reconnects....everytime I have to do "nmcli dev disconnect iface <iface>" for permanent disconnection
[16:38] <universal> and connecting via command "nmcli dev wifi connect SSID [password <pass>]" duplicates the connection meaning duplicating of "connection " to "connection 1" "connection 2" and so on the times its done by "dev wifi connect....." command
[16:38] <reisio> mojtaba: convert from imagemagick, pdftk from pdftk :p
[16:39] <BluesKaj> fr0sty, install alsa-base alsa-utils
[16:40] <fr0sty> alsa-base is already the newest version. alsa-utils is already the newest version.
[16:40] <fr0sty> BluesKaj: Got another idea?
[16:40] <SolarisBoy> reconmaster: zsh loads .zprofile - is your default shell zsh?
[16:40] <universal> good pdf editors for ubuntu ?
[16:40] <kostkon> universal, master pdf editor
[16:41] <bhavesh> I need to access my Windows partitions but when I try to mount them, I get an error stating that it is unsafe to mount that partition. I need the partition to access a ISO file stored in there. Also I cannot safely shutdown my windows 8 anymore as it runs into a BSOD on startup. Any solutions?
[16:41] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: yes, zshrc and zshenv load, but not zshprofile
[16:41] <kostkon> universal, search in the usc
[16:41] <universal> kostkon: ok
[16:41] <reisio> bhavesh: I believe there's a force mount option
[16:41] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: all i have in zprofile is a command that checks for emacs daemon and starts it if not running
[16:41] <mojtaba> reisio: should it be *.image or *.jpg?
[16:41] <reisio> -o force
[16:42] <reisio> mojtaba: whatever you're dealing with
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> reconmaster: do you have a .zlogin present?
[16:42] <reisio> mojtaba: just change it in both places
[16:42] <reisio> imagemagick groks everything
[16:42] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: no, i tried renaming .zprofile to .zlogin but that didn't fix anything
[16:42] <bhavesh> reisio: Would there be any chances of turning the partition corrupt?
[16:42] <SolarisBoy> reconmaster: whats your zsh version?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> fr0sty, pastebin the output of , aplay -l
[16:43] <reisio> bhavesh: probably a _chance_, sure, but it's probably silly low
[16:43] <reisio> bhavesh: ##windows can help you make it not complain, though
[16:43] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: 4.3.17
[16:43] <fr0sty> BluesKaj: No soundcard found, i think it's an rights issue. I am not in "audio" group
[16:43] <bhavesh> reisio: they ask me to boot into windows for that, which I cannot.
[16:44] <fr0sty> still weird, it worked in Unity today
[16:44] <reisio> bhavesh: they can help with not being able to boot into it, too
[16:44] <reisio> bhavesh: but if you don't want to bother, and want to be as safe as possible, ddrescue backup your Windows partition/s, then force mount it
[16:44] <BluesKaj> fr0sty, then join the audio group :)
[16:44] <fr0sty> BluesKaj: really looks like it. as root i get sound cards
[16:44] <mojtaba> reisio: How can I control their places in the page?
[16:45] <DarkWarrior> Please somebody help me solve this visibility of partitions:  After installing Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS am not able to see the windows partition and an extra parted partition.   Initially, I had a 10.04.2 LTS which would load and also mount the partitions automatically.  How can be able to fix this?
[16:45] <mojtaba> reisio: I mean which one first, which one second, ...
[16:45] <bhavesh> reisio: kay, thanks
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> reconmaster: in the shell that your trying in try this " if [[ -o login ]]; then; print yes; else; print no; fi "
[16:45] <SolarisBoy> reconmaster: it should be "yes"
[16:45] <reisio> mojtaba: oh, instead of *pdf
[16:45] <reisio> mojtaba: you'd do one.pdf two.pdf thr.pdf, etc.
[16:46] <reisio> mojtaba: if you use *pdf, it should be ordered the same as ls *pdf shows
[16:46] <mojtaba> reisio: ok thanks
[16:47] <leop> what's the easiest way to run a dedicated email server?
[16:47] <dumb_questions> anyone know for certain if I can set up a software RAID in 11.04 server using the current install without losing the data on that drive?
[16:47] <universal> when doing "nmcli con down id <id>" it doesnt disconnects the connection permanently but it disconnects and then reconnects....everytime I have to do "nmcli dev disconnect iface <iface>" for permanent disconnection
[16:47] <universal> and connecting via command "nmcli dev wifi connect SSID [password <pass>]" duplicates the connection meaning duplicating of "connection " to "connection 1" "connection 2" and so on the times its done by "dev wifi connect....." command
[16:47] <reisio> leop: server edition... probably asks if you want to during installation?
[16:47] <reisio> leop: alternatively, just install one? Or: tasksel
[16:48] <OerHeks> dumb_questions, 11.04 is EOL
[16:48] <dumb_questions> OerHeks: but not out of commission just yet. It's giong to 12.04 as soon as the RAID is set up and confirmed
[16:49] <leop> reisio, will i need a dynamic ip address to use it?
[16:50] <reisio> leop: you'd probably want one
[16:50] <reisio> depends
[16:50] <leop> i can't see how it could work otherwise
[16:50] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: getting a no on that
[16:51] <reconmaster> SolarisBoy: which explains why it isn't loading, but i thought when i log into ubuntu, that is creating a login shell
[16:51] <OerHeks> dumb_answer yes "out of commission" no updates, upgrading is tough, 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04
[16:51] <reisio> leop: well you don't actually have to have a public email server to have an email server :)
[16:51] <reisio> although I think a jabber server would be better in that situation
[16:51] <reisio> in fact, I think jabber is probably better than email in any situation
[16:52] <reisio> it's more easily secured, real time if you want it to be
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> what is jabber?
[16:52] <reisio> huge massive benefits
[16:52] <reisio> MonkeyDust: it's an im protocol
[16:52] <caelian> hello guys. I have " Dead Space, Burnout Paradise, Crysis 2, Dead Space 3, MoH, Mierrors Edge" origin keys to exchange for Natural Selection 2 or counter strike source (for steam) In case anyone is interested, please query me ;-) Since steam works on ubuntu, I think noone should have it in for me, for posting here ;-)
[16:52] <dumb_questions> OerHeks: Got no choice. Not my machine, but my problem.  Anyway, do you know about the RAID question?
[16:52] <reisio> MonkeyDust: xmpp
[16:52] <reisio> I think facebook even uses it
[16:52] <leop> reisio, people use email so i have to use too
[16:53] <reisio> leop: it's thinking like that which got germany into a very large war :p
[16:53] <OerHeks> Software raid? hw raid/lvm ?
[16:53] <OerHeks> !raid
[16:54] <kostkon> caelian, wrong channel, try #ubuntu-steam
[16:54] <Richter> hi, i have a little issue. My ubuntu server can't conect to my other gentoo server
[16:54] <caelian> kostkon: thanks
[16:54] <reisio> Richter: connect?
[16:54] <Richter> Sep  9 13:49:41 huguinho kernel: [ 1661.553020] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth1: link is not ready
[16:54] <leop> reisio, geeks don't have social life so they won't know :P
[16:54] <reisio> OerHeks: hrmm?
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> Richter  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server
[16:54] <reisio> leop: heh
[16:54] <dumb_questions> OerrHeks: software using mdadm. I should have mentioend that. I don't see anything talking about whether I'll lose data or not.
[16:54] <Richter> ok
[16:54] <Richter> i will try in ubuntu-server. thx
[16:57] <dumb_questions> obviously i'll have a backup made first, but hoping to only clone once. Thought this was an easy question/answer ,but maybe not. Situation is the current server has one disk now. I want to set it up for RAID1, but the current drive, a WD Green, isn't really suited for this server. I'm swapping that out for two Reds. I'd love to clone once to one Red, install both new Reds, set up RAID1 and be
[16:57] <dumb_questions> done.
[16:58] <daftykins> dumb_questions: set up RAID on the reds first, then clone original disk to the new RAID'd volume
[16:58] <daftykins> done \o/
[16:58] <dumb_questions> other option is use a forth drive. Clone to external, swap in both Reds, set up RAID, clone from Ext. to the new raid.
[16:59] <gillzon> i have made a dir that i want to dedicate to group. And i have test sudo chgrp groupname dir. and have also add users to the group but when i try to login on a user that is in the group they dont have accsess to the dir?! when i do ls -l  d---rw---- 2 root  group   4096 sep  5 14:53 dir?
[16:59] <reisio> dirs need +x, don't they?
[17:00] <dumb_questions> daftykins: unreal. I just realized this machine does in fact have room for that. I thought it did not. Doh! Thanks.
[17:00] <dumb_questions> makes me nervous having all three disks in there while setting up the raid, but I have a backup....
[17:01] <universal> when doing "nmcli con down id <id>" it doesnt disconnects the connection permanently but it disconnects and then reconnects....everytime I have to do "nmcli dev disconnect iface <iface>" for permanent disconnection..why is it not getting disconnecting with 'nmcli con down id <id>" ?
[17:01] <reconmaster> when you log into ubuntu, does that run a login shell?
[17:02] <Schrodinger`Cat> hey
[17:02] <universal> ???
[17:02] <reisio> reconmaster: hrmm?
[17:02] <reisio> Schrodinger`Cat: hi
[17:02] <Venomen> hello ;)
[17:02] <reconmaster> reisio: .zprofile isn't loading when i log onto ubuntu from that local computer
[17:03] <reisio> reconmaster: are you using zsh?
[17:03] <reisio> Venomen: hi
[17:03] <reconmaster> reisio: yes
[17:03] <Schrodinger`Cat> when i do today "apt-get upgrade", i have got The following packages have been kept back:\\  python3-distupgrade ubuntu-release-upgrader-core ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk ubuntu-release-upgrader-qt \\0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded., may i do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[17:03] <reisio> reconmaster: what makes you think you're using zsh?
[17:03] <reconmaster> reisio: .zshrc and .zshenv load and i used chsh to start using zsh
[17:03] <kostkon> Schrodinger`Cat, what version?
[17:04] <reconmaster> reisio: logging in with ssh does run .zprofile
[17:04] <Schrodinger`Cat> kostkon: im using kubuntu 13.04
[17:04] <universal> will anybody answer ?
[17:04] <kostkon> Schrodinger`Cat, ok
[17:04] <reconmaster> reisio: so now i am wondering what it is about the ubuntu login sequence i don't understand
[17:05] <Schrodinger`Cat> kostkon: usually i do dist-upgrade only to upgrade my kernel stuff...
[17:05] <reisio> reconmaster: sure what you have in .zprofile shouldn't be in .zshrc?
[17:05] <reisio> might want to talk to #zsh
[17:05] <reisio> with bash you'd source ~/.bashrc from ~/.bash_profile, for example
[17:05] <kostkon> Schrodinger`Cat, you could try it i guess
[17:06] <reconmaster> reisio: it tests for emacs --daemon and then runs the command if the server isn't running
[17:06] <universal> !wtf
[17:07] <rostam> HI all, I have installed a system with some packages. I would like to replicated exact the same image (with installed packages) to another system. I found out through dpg --get-selections I can get the list of all the installed pkgs . How could I automate this task?  thx
[17:07] <reisio> rostam: hang on, the bot lost this particular factoid
[17:08] <Schrodinger`Cat> kostkon: thanks
[17:08] <reisio> rostam: 2012 Jun 23 22:42:26 <ubottu>	To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate
[17:09] <reisio> rostam: you can also simply copy (rsync :)) an installation from one box to another, though their are potentially a few more steps
[17:09] <rostam> reisio,  thanks very much
[17:11] <rostam> !automate
[17:11] <rostam> !cloning
[17:13] <mrrcp> how do i get netflix to work with ubuntu?
[17:13] <reisio> mrrcp: look into pipelight
[17:13] <reisio> for example: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pipelight-using-silverlight-in-linux-browsers.html
[17:13] <reisio> check official repos first, though
[17:15] <Venomen> anyone got idea why my ubuntu got some limit to screen max 30sessions?
[17:15] <alperkanat> hey there.. is there a way to change the default shell of Unity's Terminal app in Ubuntu 13.04? can't find a clue on the internet..
[17:15] <reisio> alperkanat: chsh
[17:15] <alperkanat> reisio: it doesn't work
[17:15] <alperkanat> i did chsh -s /bin/zsh
[17:15] <alperkanat> however unity's terminal app doesn't honor it
[17:16] <reisio> then check its prefs
[17:16] <alperkanat> unless we open some other terminal such as terminator or something of course..
[17:16] <alperkanat> where are its prefs?
[17:16] <lorddune> Hi, can someone please tell me if I can get help here regarding missing newline errors while trying to update?
[17:19] <lorddune> When I try to update, I get error messages that 'compiz-plugins' is missing final newline. I have tried to find the corrupted?? file causing it, but cannot seem to find it so I can delete it manually.
[17:19] <chicagocharliech> On Ubuntu Studio wth Cinnamon, I get no options when I choose Screensaver/Lock settings, and I can't seem to turn off the screensaver.  I need to do this to watch movies.
[17:21] <Johnny_Linux> vlc will do it automatically
[17:21] <Jeena> Hi, is it somehow possible to upgrade python-qt from 4.9 to 4.10 on Ubuntu 12.4 (or elementary os)? It seems like it uses Qt5 which uses a newer webkit version which is able to handle CORS. The default one sadly doesn't.
[17:21] <b0x> chicagocharliech: use 'caffeine'
[17:22] <Techdude1011> Is it possible to record phone numbers without using a full blown pbx like asterisk?
[17:22] <lorddune> Hi, can anyone help me regarding missing newline errors while trying to update?
[17:22] <chicagocharliech> caffeine is a package?
[17:23] <hipsterZues>  
[17:24] <daftykins> Techdude1011: that's not an ubuntu support question really.
[17:25] <leotr> hi! did somebody had chance to install xen on ubuntu?
[17:25] <kostkon> lorddune, pastebin the errors you are getting
[17:25] <ChogyDan> not a strictly ubuntu question, but I'm trying to convert an mkv to either mp4 or avi, whatever, and I want to keep english subtitles
[17:25] <kostkon> !paste
[17:25] <leotr> ChogyDan: ffmpeg, mencoder
[17:25] <NuSuey> anyone know why is ubuntu selecting the HDMI/displayport audio as default everytime I reboot? :o want to use other output as default
[17:26] <ChogyDan> leotr: im trying avconv, but either way, I don't think I know any of the tools to get it to work right (ie, keep the subs)
[17:26] <Techdude1011> daftykins:I was hoping I could just install a small bit of software and thought I'd check here. Thanks
[17:26] <jupilotropoy> how do I determine which is my root device?
[17:26] <tag2> df -h
[17:26] <leotr> mount
[17:27] <lorddune> kostkon I get this same result every time i try to update or install or even delete anything : (Reading database ... 45%dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:  files list file for package 'compiz-plugins' is missing final newline E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[17:27] <tag2> df -h will list disk mount points, and disk usage
[17:29] <tag2> .nick tag
[17:30] <kostkon> lorddune, hmm, you could try:  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins --reinstall
[17:30] <lorddune> kostkon i have tried dozens or workarounds and i get the same error message every time.
[17:31] <kostkon> lorddune, ok
[17:31] <rostam> HI I would like to save new installed package and all its dependencies when I install the packages through apt-get or aptitude. How is that possible? thx
[17:32] <daftykins> rostam: as in you want to keep all the .deb files?
[17:32] <lorddune> kostkon i've tried to find the corrupted file in order to delete the lines of corrupted code, but I cannot even seem to find the file causing the troubles
[17:33] <rostam> daftykins,  yes that is exactly what I need. I later want to make a local depoistory for our lab systems which has no access to outside world.
[17:33] <kostkon> lorddune, apt-cache policy compiz-plugins
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> rostam  you can also "downoad only", without installing, i'm not sure about the dependencies, though
[17:33] <daftykins> rostam: hrmm, you'd need to keep it connected to keep all packages up to date though! :) you can find all the installed .deb files inside /var/cache/apt/archives after they've downloaded.
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> download*
[17:34] <jupilotropoy> if I wanted to point to another device as the root device, how would I go about it? rd=0s2?
[17:34] <rostam> daftykins, MonkeyDust  thanks very much
[17:35] <lorddune> kostkon compiz-plugins:   Installed: 1:0.9.7.12-0ubuntu1   Candidate: 1:0.9.7.12-0ubuntu2
[17:35] <kostkon> lorddune, below that
[17:35] <leotr> oh ffffuuu.... you know what? /usr/lib/xcp/lib/create_templates and all templates are there....
[17:36] <lorddune> kostkon Version table:      1:0.9.7.12-0ubuntu2 0         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages  *** 1:0.9.7.12-0ubuntu1 0         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status      1:0.9.7.6-0ubuntu1 0         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages
[17:36] <jupilotropoy> ?
[17:36] <jupilotropoy> hello
[17:37] <kostkon> lorddune, sudo apt-get clean and try again
[17:39] <lorddune> kostkon that seems to have helped, I am doing a partial update right now
[17:40] <kostkon> lorddune, that's good
[17:40] <lorddune> kostkon i probably need to open Synaptic later to clean up some outdated package addresses
[17:40] <kostkon> lorddune, why not
[17:41] <lorddune> kostkon thanks for your help, I could have sworn I tried that command earlier but it wasn't doing anything before
[17:41] <kostkon> lorddune, no probs
[17:48] <Ubuntivity> Hello. I'm having problem with audio. I use "beep" frequently and it used to work normally. Now it gets muted after few seconds of the last audio played!
[17:48] <pandeiro> anyone using ubuntu on a nexus 4? i'm interested in switching from android (cyanogenmod) to an actual gnu/linux os and wondering what kind of experience to expect
[17:49] <Ubuntivity> pandeiro: check #ubuntu-touch
[17:52] <pandeiro> ah ok thanks
[18:00] <adzy> anyone here able to help with a zfs on ubuntu query? for some reason, the disk size reported by df -h is wrong for my zfs pool.
[18:00] <cha0z_> hi is there any way to restore thunderbird new mail notification in the task tray? they disappeared
[18:03] <Extreminador> guys my ubuntu have just stop from working... black screen (after screen saver on)
[18:04] <siva_> can i replace ubuntu with ubuntu..by installing again
[18:04] <BluesKaj> Extreminador, ctrl+alt+f1 , login then startx
[18:05] <Extreminador> BluesKaj that did not work... nothing happend when i try that
[18:05] <Extreminador> i had to press for 5/6 sec the off button
[18:05] <Extreminador> to turn on computer again
[18:05] <Extreminador> how can i know what have happen (after tunring on the computer again) ?
[18:05] <Guest61588> my problem is i installed ubuntu along with windows ..during installation i gave less sapce for it now my ubuntu is overflowing with packages..now i want to install again ubuntu in separate drive will it possible..
[18:05] <BluesKaj> Extreminador, no shell prompt ?
[18:06] <Extreminador> BluesKaj correct
[18:06] <Extreminador> even the keys (like the caps lock) were not working
[18:06] <Extreminador> the ligh of caps lock was off and even i press it was off
[18:07] <BluesKaj> leave 12G or so for / partition and larger for a /home partition if you intend to use ubuntu as a real OS
[18:07] <BluesKaj> Extreminador,^
[18:07] <Extreminador> BluesKaj yup inhave 200Gb
[18:08] <Extreminador> isn´t there any log that i can see what have happen ?
[18:08] <Extreminador> becasue for the past 5 hours (or sow) i keep only moving the mouse and disabling screen saver
[18:08] <adzy> anyone know why df -h reports the total size of a volume the same as the free space, on a zfs volume? no matter how much data i chuck on there, the total size just decreases in line with the free space
[18:08] <Extreminador> and i have only in active the program called blowfish
[18:08] <Juiffi> Hello!
[18:09] <Juiffi> Could you gyus help me out?
[18:09] <Extreminador> Juiffi just fire away and wait for reply
[18:09] <bekks> adzy: Thats intended for ZFS. Use zfs list instead.
[18:10] <tozen> Juiffi: what the matter?
[18:11] <Juiffi> I have problem installing Ubuntu. The installer freezes pretty much right away if I'm going to X. The non-graphical installer gets to "pci_bus 0000:00: No busn resource found for root bus...
[18:11] <Juiffi> Then it freezes. Tried with nomodeset and acpi=off
[18:11] <Juiffi> No avail and I'm out of tricks
[18:12] <Juiffi> Also, the install media passes md5
[18:12] <adzy> bekks, zfs list doesn't give me the total size, but that's besides the real issue. when i map my samba share to windows, it does the same thing - the total size decreases. i know three people who have a similar config and theirs reports total size and free space correctly
[18:12] <bekks> adzy: Define "real size" in terms of ZFS.
[18:13] <Juiffi> AMD FX-8120, Kingston SSDNow 60 gb,  Asus m4a89gtd pro/usb3 Mobo
[18:13] <Juiffi> Nvidia GTX 480
[18:13] <gdahlman> A quick question, is there any chance that the cloud repo will be fixed for 12.04 and grizzly or is it mostly in "legacy" status.  Several of the depencancies are wrong and missing for 2013.1.2
[18:14] <Monday> how do you make linux access Microsoft Exchange Webmail without any flaws?
[18:14] <Odins> hello
[18:14] <adzy> bekks: I mean total usable space after formatting and redundancy. i have 15TB raw, which is 13.6TB after formatting and 10.7TB after raidz1. I expect total size to remain at 10.7TB while free space decreases
[18:14] <gdahlman> Monday: firefox and OWA 2003+
[18:14] <adzy> but instead, both decrease together
[18:15] <Soelen> hello, I try to run a firefox sync server, and I get all the time the same error on an ubuntu 12.04 system:
[18:15] <bekks> adzy: Thats the wrong approach, since there are things like quotas, reservations, etc. for ZFS.
[18:15] <Juiffi> I tired also installing debian and Linux Mint. They freezed also
[18:15] <Soelen> bin/paster serve development.ini
[18:15] <Soelen> bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[18:15] <Juiffi> I'll get a smoke, BRB
[18:15] <Soelen> what am I doing wrong?
[18:16] <Odins> u loking for update to firefox stable?
[18:17] <gmachine_24> I am building a media server using ubuntu server lts. Any reason I should not install the os on a usb drive, say 32GB, and run the computer from that?
[18:17] <adzy> bekks: i've not set anything up in terms of quotas / reservations. also, within the same pool, i'm getting different reported sizes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6084544/
[18:18] <Odins> hello
[18:18] <Juiffi> So, any ideas?
[18:18] <Odins> can any one see me
[18:18] <msbrown> gmachine_24: speed of access?
[18:19] <Soelen> Odins: yup
[18:19] <Odins> great tyv
[18:19] <Odins> tyvm
[18:20] <gdahlman> adzy: on solaris pool reporting is the pool free space, not the filesystem free space
[18:20] <Odins> ive installed ubuntu 12.04 pinguy and on my pulseaudio i only have left speaker worker i updated pulseaudio to 3.0 still only 1 speaker on laptop
[18:21] <adzy> gdahlman, but the total size shouldn't change, should it?
[18:21] <Guest4710> Guys, I cant resolve anything :(
[18:21] <casiub> hi word
[18:22] <Coterabeth> is pulseaudio as horrible as everyone says it is?
[18:22] <HellMind0> root@ubuntu:/etc# nslookup google.com ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[18:22] <gdahlman> adzy, yes the inflated pool size should stay the same, the filesystem space may change if you are using compression or dedupe
[18:22] <Gegsite> Q: I have 13.04 , 32 bit, and I  cant install librecad
[18:22] <HellMind0> root@ubuntu:/etc# cat /etc/resolv.conf # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4
[18:22] <Odins> yes pulse sucks
[18:22] <kostkon> Coterabeth, used to be
[18:22] <HellMind0> in nsswitch hosts:          files dns
[18:23] <HellMind0> so whats wrong!
[18:23] <adzy> gdahlman, that's the problem. the total size is decreasing.  i don't have dedup on, how do i check compression?
[18:23] <HellMind0> dig @8.8.8.8 google.com  gives no result
[18:23] <Gegsite> librecad : depends on: libqt4-qt3support (>= 4:4.5.3)
[18:23] <gdahlman> adzy: the total size will decrease, it includes the partiy space too.  but sorry I have only used zfs on solaris
[18:24] <HellMind0> ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[18:24] <HellMind0> root@ubuntu:/etc# ping 8.8.8.8 PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=1 ttl=58 time=32.5 ms
[18:25] <Susning>  I've tried setting working file share between Win7 and Linux-machine now several times last 24 hours. Tried a couple of guides but nothing seems fully relevant or I'm fucking up at least. Anyone that feel motivated to try to help me with this one. Tried googling but that didn't make it more clear this time :p
[18:26] <gmachine_24> msbrown: I suppose you are right on that point. I guess I can't see buying a 1TB drive when all it will do is run an os which is <10gb
[18:26] <adzy> gdalhman, is that to say that this (http://imgur.com/a/DLAfR) is completely expected? Because I have a friend using zfs pools, and it doesn't happen to him
[18:26] <gdahlman> adzy: the general rule is to use zpool list to see if you are going to need more space and zfs list to see who is using more space
[18:28] <gdahlman> adzy: yes...things get weird because zfs reports the total size used, including metadata.  ext4 shows you only the size of the data
[18:28] <msbrown> gmachine_24: I've nevere tried to run a server off a USB stick for an extended time; if the server is incredibly "Stable" (no need fo r in-memory processes nver change) then *maybe*
[18:29] <msbrown> gmachine_24: no need for swap, never any changes in running processes is what I meant to say there
[18:29] <gdahlman> adzy: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E26502_01/html/E29007/gbbti.html#gentextid-11131
[18:31] <bibi23> hi, when trying to ssh to my server, I have "WARNING: POSSIBLE DNS SPOOFING DETECTED! " and it fails, it tells me to run a command "ssh-keygen -f ...", I run it and try again but I still hae this message, what can I do?
[18:31] <gdahlman> adzy: if you follow the link about space accounting it will explain how zfs doesn't pre-allocate it's metadata space, that eats room too.
[18:31] <Juiffi> Anybody? I'm beign pretty desperate
[18:32] <bibi23> it occurs since I've changed server ip for my domain
[18:33] <gmachine_24> msbrown: ok, thanks for the info. btw, you've got a lovely daughter
[18:35] <adzy> gdahlman, okay, had a skim read, i'm assuming there's nothing i can do to change the behaviour... the thing that's bugging me is that i know people whose total size doesn't shrink the way mine does, even though they're using zfs pools. that says to me that there's something different with my config but i can't tell what it could be.
[18:35] <ChogyDan> Juiffi: what version are you using?
[18:36] <Juiffi> 13.04
[18:37] <adzy> gdahlman, from the link, "If any ZFS properties, such as compression and quotas, are set on file systems, reconciling the space consumption that is reported by df might be difficult." afaik, i've not set any compression or quotas.
[18:37] <ChogyDan> Juiffi: and no livecd works for you?
[18:38] <Gegsite> anyone have problems with librecad/qcad install?
[18:39] <Juiffi> sry
[18:39] <Juiffi> Did'nt realize PM's go to tab in webchat
[18:43] <_kas> could any one help with a video issue i am having after upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10?  I get an error after bootup that the system in running in low-graphics mode and it wont load a graphical login
[18:43] <_kas> Intel HD 4000 video card
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> _kas, 13.10 is on the #ubuntu+1 channel
[18:44] <_kas> thx
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[18:44] <justaguy> goodevening all \o/
[18:45] <Ubuntivity> good evening justaguy
[18:47] <mrrcp> whats a good firewall to install for ubuntu
[18:47] <kostkon> !firewall | mrrcp
[18:50] <caimeo> .
[19:02] <SuperLag> Is there an easy way to get natural scrolling enabled in Unity?
[19:02] <Henix_Aurorus> TODAY IS GOING TO BE FUN :D
[19:02] <Henix_Aurorus> ...and of course I'm being completely sarcastic.
[19:02] <tozen> Henix_Aurorus: CapsLock ?
[19:02] <mxflavor> hi everyone
[19:02] <Henix_Aurorus> Sorry
[19:03] <tozen> mxflavor: hi
[19:03] <mxflavor> i've got a problem with vsftpd
[19:04] <mxflavor> i've got a local ubuntu machine ( xbmc install ) , and a windows 8 desktop... when i tranfser a file with filezille to my ubuntu box, it has slow speed with ftp :(
[19:05] <Henix_Aurorus> Random question: what is the "xubuntux" in package names for?
[19:07] <mxflavor> Henix_Aurorus: : other desktop then regular ubuntu
[19:08] <Henix_Aurorus> Uh... k?
[19:08] <Henix_Aurorus> I guess?
[19:08] <Henix_Aurorus> (I have no idea what that means. :S)
[19:09] <Juiffi> LiveCD didn't work. Still havin problems
[19:10] <ergotron> Should I upgrade from Warty Hedge Hog?
[19:10] <Pici> !flavors | Henix_Aurorus
[19:10] <mxflavor> Henix_Aurorus: ubuntu uses unity ... it used to be gnome... xubuntu uses x. i believe
[19:10] <tozen> Juiffi: what the matter?
[19:11] <Juiffi> Still the same, Installer and LiveCDs freeze. Only blinkin' cursor on the screen. nomodeset and acpi=off have no effect
[19:11] <Juiffi> md5 correct
[19:12] <Juiffi> Text-mode halts to line pci_bus 0000:00: No busn resource found for root bus
[19:12] <tozen> Juiffi: which distro do u trying?
[19:12] <Juiffi> Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Mint, Debian
[19:12] <Juiffi> All of them fail
[19:14] <tasslehoff> Running 1680x1050 on my retina mbp, and text/icons look fuzzy. Does it matter if I run noveau or the nvidia driver? Anything other tricks? On the native resolution it looks beautiful, but small :)
[19:14] <mrrcp> your talking your side bar?
[19:14] <mrrcp> launcher?
[19:15] <tozen> Juiffi: what i would do is to check memory and hdd structure. what do u have desktop or notebook?
[19:15] <Juiffi> desktop
[19:16] <Juiffi> memtest seemed fine for short 30 min check. Guess i'll let it run over night when I go to sleep. Not yet though
[19:16] <tozen> try to disconnect any devices from it, leaving videocard only
[19:16] <tasslehoff> text and icons in e.g. a firefox window
[19:17] <Juiffi> Hmm. I'm  thinking that the videocard is the culprit. Nvidia gtx480
[19:17] <tozen> * videocard and keyboard
[19:18] <Juiffi> I tried with on-board vga, but same crash
[19:18] <Guest12338> ok
[19:19] <Juiffi> ATM i'm on the computer i'm planning to put Linux. Windows sfc showed no problems
[19:19] <OnionNet> sfc?
[19:19] <strixUK> i'd like to keep system config plus my custom scripts in an svn or git repo, but since neither of those deal with permissions or ownership, i need to add something else.  there's etckeeper, but a) i'm not sure i can version stuff in /usr/local/bin, and b) i don't want to version everything in /etc.
[19:19] <Juiffi> Disk check tool
[19:19] <tozen> Juiffi: there on ubuntu.com/releases is alternate version is available as well it's compiled for similare hardware conflicts you have try it
[19:19] <strixUK> anybody recommend a suitable deployment or config versioning tool?
[19:20] <Juiffi> Ok, DLing the alt
[19:20] <Juiffi> I'll report in soon
[19:20] <strixUK> (i also want to use this repo to replicate the important stuff onto a backup server
[19:20] <OnionNet> juiffi, what flavour of linux.. ubuntu i hope
[19:21] <BluesKaj> Juiffi, run dkms status , see if your video driver is correct
[19:21] <Juiffi> Can't run anything. It doesn't boot
[19:21] <BluesKaj> no tty ?
[19:23] <Vall99> Hi everyone!
[19:23] <Juiffi> Is 13.04 available as alternate?
[19:23] <tozen> Juiffi: i dont know, pal
[19:23] <Henix_Aurorus> What do I need to build a kernel module?
[19:24] <Vall99> Can anyone recomend  a good hardening guide for ubuntu?
[19:25] <SuperLag> that's interesting.... the alternate install images seem to be gone
[19:26] <Vall99> if it is server better!!!
[19:26] <Vall99> thanks!
[19:26] <strixUK> Vall99: not specifically, but two things i always do with a new box: disable password authentication in ssh (pubkey only) and turn off any services i don't need (notably mail and anything to do with RPC)
[19:26] <strixUK> Vall99: by mail, i should have said pop3/imap
[19:26] <Vall99> Thanks strixUK
[19:27] <strixUK> be sure that you can shell into your machine with a pubkey before you disable pw auth
[19:27] <Vall99> Il; take a look at those two!!
[19:27] <strixUK> Vall99: use netstat -ltpn to see what services are running
[19:28] <Vall99> Im building a server at home and wanna harden it a bit!
[19:28] <strixUK> are you behind a nat, or is this machine going to have a public IP?
[19:28] <strixUK> (nat/router/whatev)
[19:28] <Vall99> The services are the ones default so it is recently installed
[19:29] <Vall99> Behind a NAT so its going to be at my house at first!
[19:29] <strixUK> as long as you're NAT'd you're pretty safe anyway
[19:30] <Vall99> Great to know !!
[19:30] <ChogyDan> anyone know how to convert a video to xbox 360 with avidemux?
[19:30] <ibase> XDC SEND ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[19:30] <Vall99> but i should open some ports so i can access it from the outside no?
[19:30] <ibase> XDC SEND ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
[19:31] <strixUK> Vall99: you'd have to forward a port from your nat router
[19:31] <Vall99> I was thinking of building a  firewall too but if it is safe behind NAT...
[19:31] <john_john> ChogyDan: In what format is the video now?
[19:32] <ChogyDan> john_john: mk4
[19:32] <strixUK> Vall99: oh yeah, check out UFW as well (ubuntu's default firewall).  be warned: it doesn't open any ports by default, so if you're admining remotely, enable port 22 /before/ you enable ufw
[19:32] <ChogyDan> i mean, mkv john_john
[19:32] <john_john> ChogyDan: And what formats does xbox support?
[19:32] <strixUK> turning on the firewall can't hurt
[19:32] <ChogyDan> john_john: I wish I knew.  not mkv  :P
[19:33] <ChogyDan> and not srt, but I've got that sorted
[19:33] <john_john> ChogyDan: AVI should probably work or the format that windows uses WMV?
[19:34] <Vall99> strixUK thats what i was thinking of, cause i can setup a couple of arduinos i have resting at work!!
[19:34] <Vall99> I write down about the port 22 great thanks!!
[19:35] <john_john> ChogyDan: What problems are you facing with avidemux? mkv is just a container format. you can extract the video and audio content from an mkv fairly easy I believe
[19:35] <Vall99> If i have more doubts ill come back!Thanks again strixUK
[19:36] <ChogyDan> john_john: well, I have it loaded in avidemux, I save the file ok, but I don't know which format to pick.  When I try to play it on xbox, it says it is an unsupported format
[19:36] <ChogyDan> Im trying random ones, currently on xvid + aac
[19:36] <BluesKaj> ChogyDan, try .avi
[19:36] <Ben64> ChogyDan: thats really not an ubuntu issue, google should have some answers for you
[19:37] <john_john> ChogyDan: Pick AVI, I'm almost 100% xbox will be able to play it.
[19:37] <john_john> BEn64: It is, since he's looking for ubuntu software to convert his media.
[19:37] <mr-rich> Anyone else having issues playing DVDs in 13.04?
[19:37] <john_john> or "software that works on ubuntu"
[19:37] <Ben64> john_john: he's looking for the format type for xbox, not even related
[19:37] <john_john> ben64: nope, he wanted to know how to convert mkv ;)
[19:38] <xangua> !anyone | mr-rich
[19:38] <Ben64> john_john: not really, but thats still offtopic here
[19:38] <john_john> bah
[19:38] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[19:39] <john_john> lets scare away beginners by being hostile
[19:39] <Ben64> we can't just answer any question involving ubuntu in any way, there are channels for that
[19:39] <ChogyDan> john_john: don't worry, im not a begginner.  But you are correct, I am really trying to find anything that will work on ubuntu
[19:39] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: Yes. and libdvd and mediubuntu ... Tried everything I could find on Google ...
[19:40] <BluesKaj> mr-rich, what's the dvd , perhaps it's corrupted
[19:40] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: Ran VLC from CLI says "error cracking ..."
[19:41] <BluesKaj> DRM ?
[19:41] <xarph> I'm trying to do a hands off install of ubuntu 12.04 with preseeding. the preseed works fine except that it hangs for about 10 minutes on `anna net-retriever default`. I tcpdumped and during that whole time the thing is just sitting there trying to RARP itself. Any suggestions?
[19:41] <mr-rich> BluesKaj: "How To Train Your Dragon". Plays fine on Kubuntu 12.04 LTS
[19:42] <xarph> just realized this should be in #ubuntu-server sorry
[19:42] <john_john> ChogyDan: AVI should definitely work on Xbox, if you're having problems with avidemux perhaps try mkv_merge
[19:43] <Ben64> john_john: avi is not a format, its a container. its still an xbox issue, not for #ubuntu
[19:44] <Marlenee> how i hash file in ubuntu
[19:45] <john_john> ben64: And so is MKV... Looking for software for doing specific things in ubuntu is prohibited? lol k...
[19:45] <bekks> Marlenee: which hash?
[19:45] <adzy> gdahlman, thanks for your help earlier. i think i've figured out how to get it to show up right. the problem was that i was using multiple sub-pools (/beatrix/[sub pool]). I eliminate them and replaced them with standard directories instead and so far it seems to be reporting the total size as 10.7TB, while the free space declines
[19:45] <adzy> *eliminated
[19:46] <Juiffi_> Alt install crashed also. To those who weren't here: Ubuntu, Mint and debian crash on installer. No matter whether I use text-mode or GUI. Only blank screen with blinking cursor. Nomodeset and acpi=off have no effect.
[19:46] <Ben64> john_john: why is it so hard for you to understand that helping someone play videos on an xbox 360 is not an ubuntu issue
[19:46] <Marlenee> sha512 and sha265 and md5
[19:46] <Juiffi_> On text mode tha last loaded line is pci_bus 000:00 no busn resource found for root bus...
[19:46] <bekks> Marlenee: sha512sum, sha256sum, md5sum
[19:46] <john_john> and that's why I went back to using windows.
[19:47] <adzy> Juiffi, does your system work on other OSes? I'm beginning to think you might have a hardware problem. memtest?
[19:47] <Juiffi_> I'm running Win7 ATM
[19:47] <Juiffi_> no problem
[19:47] <Juiffi_> Did a short 30min memtest, I will leave it over night
[19:48] <Juiffi_> but for now, i'm gonna find out could it be else
[19:48] <bekks> Juiffi_: sounds like a mainboard problem more likely.
[19:48] <Marlenee> bekks: thanks
[19:49] <Juiffi_> Mobo is ASUS M4A89GDT pro/usb3
[19:49] <Juiffi_> Latest BIOS
[19:49] <bekks> Juiffi_: still might be faulty.
[19:49] <Juiffi_> Possibly. Had no errors on WIn7. Which makes me quite stirred
[19:50] <Juiffi_> It could be faulty, but windows works, so no point getting a new one
[19:50] <bekks> Juiffi_: win7 is a totally different OS. And did you check pci device drivers, etc?
[19:51] <meganerd> Juiffi_: what are the symptoms?
[19:51] <Juiffi_> Yes, im quite aware of that. How do i check pci drivers on an OS which does not boot?
[19:51] <bekks> meganerd: "no root device found for pci bus 0" :)
[19:51] <killer_b> beep 3 1
[19:51] <bekks> Juiffi_: I am talking about Windows.
[19:52] <Plouj> did busybox-syslogd replace rsyslog in Raring?
[19:52] <adzy> Juiffi_: quick one - are you trying to boot an installed copy of ubuntu, or are you unable to boot the livecd?
[19:52] <Juiffi_> All drivers installed and working
[19:52] <Juiffi_> Both, neither worked
[19:52] <bekks> Juiffi_: Did you check the logs?
[19:53] <Juiffi_> where do i find them?
[19:53] <bekks> Juiffi_: In Windows.
[19:53] <Juiffi_> Could you point me in right direction?
[19:53] <Juiffi_> Like Windows-related logs or Linux logs?
[19:54] <bekks> Juiffi_: Windows like "windows logs"...
[19:54] <bekks> Juiffi_: The main question is wether you can see any sign of a hardware problem in Windows.
[19:55] <meganerd> Juiffi_: doesn't sound like a bad motherboard, what is the boot media you are using (USB, cd/dvd)?
[19:55] <Wyzer> Isn't Windows a hardware problem?
[19:55] <Juiffi_> USB, checked the checksums
[19:55] <adzy> Wyzer, Windows is software :p
[19:55] <meganerd> Wyzer: No, Windows is just a failure of imagination
[19:55] <Juiffi_> alse tried 2 sticks
[19:55] <Juiffi_> and usb hdd
[19:55] <adzy> Juiffi_ might there be some PCI related BIOS config that you could tweak? just guessing here, a bit of trial and error playing with your bios settings might uncover something
[19:55] <Juiffi_> Nothing in logs, only directX install failure
[19:55] <meganerd> Juiffi_: how did you put the install on to those media?
[19:56] <bekks> Juiffi_: You are experiencing a PCI bus error, you dont have to check every distro or every bootable medium.
[19:56] <Juiffi_> Universal USB insteller
[19:56] <bekks> Juiffi_: Which logs did you check in particular?
[19:56] <Juiffi_> the ones in C:\Windows\Logs
[19:56] <artcurmudgeon> my ubuntu box was getting ssl errors when I connected to a linux server, they replaced the expired certs, but I am still getting the errors, is there anyway to remove the ssl cache from the command line?
[19:56] <bekks> Juiffi_: Forget them. Windows has a event facility.
[19:56] <Juiffi_> ah
[19:57] <Juiffi_> forgot
[19:57] <Juiffi_> sry will check now
[19:58] <jdoles> How do I enable tap to click with a Synaptics touchpad?
[19:58] <meganerd> Juiffi_: I really dislike the AMD motherboards, I have a 990 chipset  based machine at home that mostly works (the CPU still runs hotter than I think it should).
[20:00] <Juiffi_> Event viewer shows loads of event, but I can't find any HW issues. Mainly problems with Steam and Virtualbox
[20:00] <Juiffi_> Could be the RAMS
[20:00] <Juiffi_> or not, dunno
[20:00] <Juiffi_> im lost :F
[20:00] <s4mu> hey is ubuntu open source ?
[20:01] <bekks> Juiffi_: No, could not be the RAMs :) Very, very unlikely.
[20:02] <Wyzer> Juiffi: At what point is it crashing the installer?  I am a Noob, but mine crashed when trying to "download" updates during the install.  Had an IP problem.
[20:03] <Juiffi_> It crashes pretty much the first second I start the installer/LiveCD
[20:03] <Juiffi_> PCI_bus failure possibly
[20:03] <Juiffi_> or so it seems
[20:03] <Juiffi_> best guess sofar'
[20:03] <adzy> (repeated) Juiffi_ might there be some PCI related BIOS config that you could tweak? just guessing here, a bit of trial and error playing with your bios settings might uncover something
[20:03] <meganerd> Juiffi_: I had to do the install from a usb dvd drive on my amd
[20:03] <bekks> Juiffi_: Not possibly. Thats what the error message tells you. Why do you try to find another reason?
[20:04] <meganerd> Juiffi_: you wouldn't happen to have the latest BIOS installed?
[20:04] <Juiffi_> I do
[20:04] <Wyzer> Juiffi: I missed it, are you installing from USB (Flash) or DVD/CD?
[20:04] <matubaum> Hello. I can't run virtualbox. I've installed it with the offical repos, but I don't have this needed module on my kernel : /dev/vboxdrv . How can I install id?
[20:04] <Juiffi_> I'll head on to bios now. Looking for something to tweak
[20:04] <Juiffi_> im back soon
[20:05] <Juiffi_> oh, I have Android, so i can post while in bios
[20:05] <Juiffi_> :D
[20:05] <bekks> matubaum: Which "official" repo did you use?
[20:05] <meganerd> matubaum: /etc/init/vboxdrv setup
[20:05] <apes> I have some configs in /etc/network/interfaces.d/vips.conf that don't seem to be loaded on reboot. I'm running 12.04 LTS. Any advice?
[20:05] <meganerd> matubaum: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[20:06] <meganerd> Juiffi_: do you have an optical drive in this machine?
[20:06] <Juiffi_> And old non-burning DVD
[20:06] <Juiffi_> grabbed from old MAC G4
[20:06] <mongi> Hey guys, I got a kind of problem with Ubuntu in my laptop... I mean, everytime I'm using Ubuntu on it the fan runs really fast and the laptop gets really hot... While in Windows this doesn't happens... Why is that? Is there a way to solve it?
[20:07] <bekks> mongi: Clean the fan and the cooler.
[20:07] <matubaum> meganerd: I don't have /etc/init.d/vboxdrv, but I do have /etc/init.d/virtualbox
[20:07] <meganerd> mongi: you wouldn't happen to have an AMD/ATI or nVidia GPU in this laptop ?
[20:07] <bekks> matubaum: Then uninstall virtualbox again, and use the official packages from www.virtualbox.org
[20:07] <meganerd> matubaum: How did you install virtualbox?
[20:07] <xniu> test
[20:07] <mongi> bekks: but this doesn't happens on the same laptop running Windows
[20:08] <mongi> meganerd: it's a AMD/ATI
[20:08] <Marlenee> ?weechat
[20:08] <Marlenee> !weechat
[20:08] <matubaum> meganerd: sudo aptitude install virtualbox
[20:08] <ChogyDan> mongi: are you using the latest version?
[20:08] <bekks> matubaum: Uninstall it and install the latest official version as told above.
[20:08] <matubaum> bekks: It might be a good idea
[20:08] <roiha1> Hello. Its me from android. Going to bios now
[20:08] <roiha1> Juiffi
[20:09] <mongi> ChogyDan: yes, 13.04
[20:09] <matubaum> bekks: I will
[20:09] <roiha1> My nick seems broken
[20:10] <Wyzer> No, you just need to "GHOST" it, you are still logged as Juiffi
[20:10] <xniu> test
[20:10] <ubuntu> hej
[20:11] <roiha1> Nah, let it be for now.
[20:11] <Guest31681> poland
[20:11] <ChogyDan> mongi: just file a bug against the kernel.  Someone may be able to point you the right direction
[20:12] <mongi> ChogyDan: where can I do that?
[20:12] <ChogyDan> mongi: `ubuntu-bug linux`
[20:13] <roiha1> Tried enablin plug'n'pray (pun intended) OS. Didnt help
[20:13] <mongi> ChogyDan: is that a irc-channel?
[20:13] <ChogyDan> mongi: it's a terminal command
[20:13] <meganerd> roiha1: So, on my AMD machine, I had to set my RAM timings to 1600Mhz (even though the RAM was rated much higher), I also enabled legacy boot (instead of UEFI only)
[20:14] <mongi> ChongyDan: will try that, thanks
[20:14] <Wyzer> Juiffi: Have you tried installing from a USB (Flash) drive?  It could just be a corrupted burn.
[20:14] <SierraAR> What's the name of that program that can put text, graphs, cpu/memory/usage stats, etc on your desktop?
[20:14] <adzy> Wyzer, he's already done all that
[20:14] <roiha1> I only have used usb
[20:14] <Wyzer> adzy: Tried reading up, but missed it. sorry
[20:14] <meganerd> SierraAR: conky
[20:15] <SierraAR> meganerd: Thanks
[20:15] <meganerd> SierraAR: np
[20:15] <adzy> Wyzer, i only know cause i saw it when i popped in a few hours ago :p
[20:15] <adzy> i wouldnt ask you to scroll that far up
[20:16] <roiha1> Its old mobo. Only has bios. No uefi.
[20:16] <meganerd> roiha1: I might give unetbootin a try
[20:17] <meganerd> roiha1: come to think of it, that was what I ended up doing (I had left my USB dvd at work by accident)
[20:18] <roiha1> Unetbootin?
[20:18] <meganerd> roiha1: what are your boot options, I also had to enable some USB boot options (which did not work out of the box on my AMD board)
[20:18] <meganerd> roiha1: makes usb drives bootable from ISOs
[20:19] <meganerd> roiha1: has a Windows version.  None of my computers has had an optical drive for years now (I keep a usb dvd/br drive around)
[20:20] <roiha1> is it really different than universal usb creator?
[20:20] <roiha1> The distro menus show up correctly
[20:20] <roiha1> So i think that is not the problem
[20:20] <meganerd> roiha1: no idea, I just never had great success with the pendrive linux site
[20:21] <roiha1> Hmm. Used to work for me.
[20:21] <roiha1> Im starting to blame AMD.
[20:21] <meganerd> roiha1: I can only tell you what I have used successfully.
[20:22] <roiha1> The chipset might be just all f*cked up.
[20:22] <meganerd> roiha1: I have been disappointed with my 990+8350
[20:22] <meganerd> roiha1: chipset is definately not as good as the Intel offerings
[20:22] <roiha1> I know. Sry, didnt mean to offend
[20:22] <roiha1> Yeah, im starting to agree
[20:22] <meganerd> roiha1: no offense taken, I know exactly how frustrating this can be
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> roiha1, we don 't swear here
[20:23] <roiha1> Ok. Sry for that too
[20:23] <romulobr> can you point me to a simple secure way to run one specific bash script as root without asking for credentials?
[20:23] <roiha1> Im grabbing smoke now. Hope it eases the frustration
[20:23] <adzy> romulobr - put it in root's crontab
[20:23] <meganerd> romulobr: use sudo, put an entry in /etc/sudoers that does not ask for a password for this script.  Use visudo to make this change.
[20:24] <matubaum> bekks: Thanks I did that and solved my problem!! So the final solution was to install using .deb file from Virtualbox site.
[20:24] <bekks> matubaum: The solution was "use the official package" ;)
[20:24] <romulobr> thanks meganerd
[20:25] <matubaum> bekks: Yes that's right!! Thanks!
[20:25] <cyphase> when i mount an hfs+ volume in ubuntu, all i see is Desktop DB and Desktop DF. any ideas?
[20:27] <theTroy> A complete noob here, I created a new user on remote ubuntu server via SSH. When I login to that user (via ssh again), I cannot seem to use TAB to auto-fill commands, and up/down arrows do not work to bring up the previous commands.
[20:28] <roiha1> Not too much pci related options in bios
[20:28] <xniu> who #ubuntu
[20:28] <meganerd> romulobr: YOURNAME ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/local/bin/somescript.sh
[20:28] <roiha1> Only the pnp on/off
[20:28] <wolrah> theTroy: sounds like your new user either has the wrong shell set or has a messed up config file for said shell
[20:28] <xniu> who #xniu
[20:28] <wolrah> try echo $SHELL as the user, I think that'll tell you what's running
[20:28] <wolrah> not on a *nix atm
[20:29] <theTroy> wolrah: just used standard useradd command, and then created the home folder for the user
[20:29] <lukasstr> hay there, i've some really big/stupid problem ... had some problems with w-lan (not really interesting)... ended in typing dd if=/dev/sdb of=someimage bs=512K ... what i did'nt know my pc mountet the usb first, so my main harddisk was dev/sdb and the usb i wanted to write to was dev/sda .... ist there some way to get my data back?
[20:29] <theTroy> wolrah: /bin/sh
[20:29] <roiha1> Bios seems to assing IRQ fine
[20:29] <wolrah> theTroy: you want /bin/bash or another advanced shell
[20:29] <theTroy> wolrah: how do I change that?
[20:30] <meganerd> romulobr: start here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39281/how-to-run-an-application-using-sudo-without-a-password
[20:30] <wolrah> theTroy: edit their entry in /etc/passwd, or there's probably a way to do it with useradd or similar but I don't kno
[20:30] <SierraAR> So I was updating my xubuntu system. The update manager locked up then crashed halfway through, and now I receive this error whenever I try running updates - 'The package system is broken' - http://pastebin.com/BpnjWbGT
[20:30] <meganerd> lukasstr: I how long did you let that command run for?
[20:31] <roiha1> Maybe it's just the bios. Im running FX-8120 on AM3 (non-plus). Maybe it's just all duct tape and bubblegum and barely work for windows.
[20:31] <SierraAR> I did run apt-get install -f, but that gave more or less the same error and didnt fix anything
[20:31] <theTroy> wolrah: thank you a lot, worked
[20:31] <lukasstr> meganerd: .. just needed 1or 2 seconds (ssd)
[20:31] <ChogyDan> SierraAR: did you install a ppa or anything?
[20:32] <wolrah> lukasstr: if you had "if" as /dev/sdb, then it was *READING* from sdb not writing, and nothing should have been harmed at all if "of" was a file
[20:32] <Juiffi> Back on PC
[20:32] <SierraAR> ChogyDan: Not recently; A few months ago, yes, and I've had no issue updating until now
[20:32] <wolrah> theTroy: np, glad it was that simple
[20:33] <lukasstr> oh sry switched the commands it was if=theimage.img of=/dev/sdb
[20:33] <Juiffi> Could it be the BIOS for FX-8120 on non-plus AM3 mobo?
[20:33] <wolrah> lukasstr: ok, in that case you overwrote the first X bytes of the hard drive, how bad that is depends on the value of X
[20:34] <lukasstr> i think 10 mb
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> SierraAR, Could be as simple as a repo pro lem, always paste all the text. i had a repo problem 2 days ago, try changing it.
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> Problem
[20:34] <ChogyDan> SierraAR: you could try installing the libhx509-5-heimdal, see if you get a better error
[20:34] <lukasstr> wolrah: when i boot via live cd i've a partition with 16.8MB
[20:34] <meganerd> lukasstr: so it is likely that the partition info is gone.  You could use a utility like formost to go through the drive looking for files
[20:34] <SierraAR> wilee-nilee: All the text from what?
[20:35] <meganerd> lukasstr: the bad news is that you lose filesystem metadata, like filenames
[20:35] <wolrah> lukasstr: that's gone beyond the no damage point for sure, depending on your filesystem you may have a lot of impending pain or just a few MB of lost system files
[20:36] <wolrah> agree with meganerd though, you need emergency recovery tools at this point
[20:36] <meganerd> lukasstr: you would also need to use a bootable dvd or usb.  I am a fan of systemrescuecd
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[20:36] <meganerd> lukasstr: because it was an SSD, you can do a lot of damage in 2 seconds
[20:37] <meganerd> lukasstr: anywhere from 200 megabytes to about a gig
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> SierraAR, run a update from the cli in general to check whats up when things error
[20:37] <SierraAR> ChogyDan: Here's the output from trying to install the package, and from trying to run install -f - http://pastebin.com/gteDsqsM
[20:38] <lukasstr> yeah i'm already on a live linux write now and writing with you ;) 4gb
[20:38] <meganerd> lukasstr: also, SSDs present a fake disk layout (they do randomization under the hood), making recovery even harder.
[20:38] <SierraAR> wilee-nilee: That's 'sudo apt-get upgrade' right?
[20:38] <apes> Adding "source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*" to /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work, despite the man page for interfaces saying it should. Any advice?
[20:39] <solaruin> im looking for a virus scanner i can test files with before moving to a windows OS. anyone know of a decent one? im having little luck with google
[20:39] <lukasstr> meganerd: so i just install foremost via live-usb?
[20:39] <meganerd> lukasstr: you also need some external storage device to put the recovered files
[20:39] <SierraAR> solaruin: I know this isn't quite what you're looking for, but have you tried setting up a virtual machine running a windows os and checking files with that?
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> SierraAR, generally I always run dist-upgrade
[20:40] <Juiffi> Guess my Linux days are over for a while. Atleast until I can get a decent mobo/get Intel setup
[20:40] <solaruin> sierraar i havent, no. but the file is on a flashdrive, so it would end up touching my main OS that way
[20:41] <SierraAR> wilee-nilee ChogyDan: Output from running dist-upgrade: http://pastebin.com/3idAbuMk
[20:42] <lukasstr> meganerd: so there is no chance, that just my boot sector is overwritten? had an extra partition /boot with (200mb)
[20:42] <solaruin> anyone got a linux virus scanner?
[20:43] <bekks> solaruin: clamav
[20:43] <Fire>  how hard is installing a mailserver these days?
[20:43] <solaruin> awesome, thanks bekks
[20:43] <yachid> anyone has integrated vsftpd with Active Directory auth???
[20:44] <Juiffi> Avast also offers Linux version
[20:53] <xavier23> HI guys. Debian is more secure than Ubuntu, right?
[20:53] <wallrock91> Hi, folks
[20:53] <snaketong> hey guys, using Kubuntu, can't find anything using the search fonction in "mua package manager", I type cam, webcam, cheese, etc... can't find any webcam software !
[20:54] <wallrock91> xavier23: Debian is the base of Ubuntu it's more stable but the level of security is the same
[20:54] <bekks> snaketong: Do you mean "muon package manager"?
[20:54] <snaketong> yeah
[20:54] <ngochai> Hi guys, upstart keeps auto-rebooting my system, how do I debug it?
[20:55] <xavier23> wallrock91: ok. I'm thinking debian is therefore better for a server
[20:55] <xavier23> wallrock91: I need something very stable and reliable
[20:55] <xavier23> wallrock91: and secure
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> xavier23, not necessarily true any OS is secure as you make it.
[20:55] <wallrock91> xavier23: Debian for server machine is the most important free server distribution
[20:56] <Unknown574> hey
[20:56] <wallrock91> Obviously the best Linux Server Distro is RedHat Enterprise Linux
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> All fud,lol
[20:56] <Unknown574> i agree
[20:56] <Rafael_Gomes> Hi all.. There are any image of Ubuntu + Openstack (Havana ) ...I tried to find on the web but i didn´t find anything about that
[20:57] <Unknown574> is anybody good in linux programming?
[20:57] <xavier23> wallrock91: ok back in 15mins, then i wish to continue this discussion… lol
[20:57] <wallrock91> rotflastc
[20:57] <snaketong> bekks: any idea ?
[20:58] <wallrock91> Unknown574: I'm learning the Linux development in C and C++
[20:58] <bekks> snaketong: I am using the terminal only for installing software.
[20:58] <grough876> gm12ga34ge56
[21:00] <snaketong> with this attitude we will never see Linux on the desktop
[21:01] <snaketong> people don't want to back-up on the CLI just for installing a software
[21:01] <AlexFromCanada> I was wondering if someone could help me with a problem?
[21:02] <Luyin> !anyone > snaketong
[21:02] <AlexFromCanada> Anyone?
[21:03] <mystdarren> Yes, just ask the question AlexFromCanada
[21:04] <Luyin> oh sry snaketong, was meant to go to AlexFromCanada
[21:04] <Luyin> well, is the same as what's just been said anyway.
[21:08] <timholum> Hello I am trying to customize an ubuntu live cd, I am having a hard time trying to find out where to customize unity, I want to change the background image and customize what's in the side bar ( along with add a few firefox shortcut's )
[21:08] <AlexFromCanada> A while ago I installed ubuntu and windows alongside mac on my macbook pro. I forgot to change the location to install GRUB, and messed up my windows installation. After a reinstall (as I had almost nothing on it), everything was working fine, except that on rEFIt it showed grubx64.efi as a bootable operating system. This was very annoying, as it showed an ugly unknown operating system logo beside the windows and mac logos when
[21:09] <supercom32> Suppose I have an old box running Ubuntu 10.04, and I cram in a bootable USB drive with 12.04 LTS, can I just install it from within my existing Ubuntu install? Or must I actually boot from that USB key first?
[21:09] <AlexFromCanada> I was looking on google for a solution and a forum post said to mount the EFI partition and delete the ubuntu folder which had grubx64 in it.
[21:09] <AlexFromCanada> Now windows will not boot and I have lots of important files on there.
[21:09] <AlexFromCanada> Anyone know what to do?
[21:09] <raub> Kinda miffed: just created a 12.04.3 server vm. It rebooted and is not sitting in the "Starting Uncomplicated Firewall" step in its first boot
[21:10] <meganerd> AlexFromCanada: it is a windows issu
[21:10] <meganerd> AlexFromCanada: boot from windows cd and choose repair, not sure if that works with bootcamp
[21:10] <AlexFromCanada> I didn't use bootcamp
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> supercom32, inside no boot yes, with a separate home you  couliss that one.
[21:10] <AlexFromCanada> just new partition and install
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Could use*
[21:11] <AlexFromCanada> The windows CD will not recognise the Windows partition as having windows on it.
[21:11] <AlexFromCanada> So it cannot repair
[21:12] <supercom32> wilee-nillee: Forgive me if I'm a little slow, as I'm kind of new to Linux. So If I do the install from within an existing Ubuntu setup, can I just replace the total installation? The reason I ask is because I'm using a Zbox VD01 which uses some via chipset. And with that, no newer versions of ubuntu work for install because I get a black screen (>_<);
[21:12] <meganerd> AlexFromCanada: I have not owned a MAC for nearly a decade
[21:12] <AlexFromCanada> I don't think its a mac problem
[21:13] <meganerd> AlexFromCanada: It is since they have a locked boot loader
[21:13] <AlexFromCanada> The problem was I deleted the ubuntu folder form the EFI partition
[21:13] <supercom32> So I'm trying to just get some later version of ubuntu installed so I can load the VIA drivers after on it.
[21:13] <AlexFromCanada> *from
[21:13] <AlexFromCanada> and now windows won't boot
[21:13] <meganerd> AlexFromCanada: I have not tried in a while, but I seemed to need to use bootcamp to get windows installed.
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> supercom32, install could have two meanings in your context, full install or  loading a iso to the flash
[21:14] <XMLnewbi> when setting up a vps and it ask's me NS1 and NS2 prefix, its asking for www right?
[21:14] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: When I say install, I mean to say "wipe the internal drive clean, and install fresh". Sorry if I was a little vauge before.
[21:15] <meganerd> supercom32: you could use do-release-upgrade
[21:16] <gamma9mu> .
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> supercom32, The booted usb allow a wipe and install easily, I assume here a usb with the 12.04 ISO loaded
[21:16] <supercom32> meganerd: Does that allow you to jump to any arbitrary version? or only the next one in line?
[21:16] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: Yes, but when I boot to it, i get a black screen during install because it doesn't support the VIA graphics chipset.
[21:17] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: I tried alternative + server and nothing seems to show any kind of install screens.
[21:17] <AlexFromCanada> So it's an Ubuntu/Windows problem.
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> supercom32, those are text installs, you might try the desktop version with a nomodeset boot, or ask for help o  the text one.
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> on*
[21:20] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: I know they are text installs. I would actually like to do that if it would show me any text. :-) What I am trying now is using the 10.04 install to upgrade in place to the next LTS release.
[21:20] <AlexFromCanada_> Sorry if anyone responded while I was gone, but the internet in my school stopped working for a second.
[21:20] <AlexFromCanada_> orry, maybe I'm not being clear. I had ubuntu, windows, and mac for a while. But accidentally installed grub to the whole hard drive instead of just the one partition. This broke windows, so I just reinstalled it. I stopped using ubuntu so I uninstalled it, but there was still an ubuntu folder in the EFI, so I manually deleted that. After deleting ubuntu from the efi, windows will not boot. So it's an Ubuntu/Windows problem.
[21:20] <AlexFromCanada_> *sorry
[21:20] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: I suppose I could try forcing VISA during install, but I would have to enable that 'blind' as I can't see anything.
[21:20] <supercom32> VESA I mean
[21:21] <Kyan`> salvee
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> !eol | supercom32 see eol upgrade path
[21:21] <AlexFromCanada_> test
[21:21] <AlexFromCanada_> weird it said I quit
[21:22] <supercom32> Whoa. Neat. Ok, thanks for the advice.
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> supercom32, Generally the graphic drivers don't follow is all.
[21:23] <czsr> hi
[21:23] <czsr> test
[21:23] <BluesKaj> AlexFromCanada_, frub normally insalls itself to the mbr /first 512kb on a windows install , after installing ubuntu , sometimes running sudo os prober , then sudo update-grub will find the the Windows partition and list ti in grub
[21:24] <BluesKaj> grub
[21:24] <tinkster> Any reference to PPA repos that doesn't need a GUI talks about using add-apt-repository.  Funny thing is that that's not installed on 12.04, and apt-cache seems to be unable to find it, too ... where do I get that program from?
[21:24] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: You mean from release to release? Well, I have later versions of the driver on hand. It's just I need the OS installed so I can apply it at command line. But I can't do it during install time since I see nothing.
[21:25] <supercom32> wilee-nilee: unless I can install ubuntu via command line via something like "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop".
[21:25] <supercom32> But I think it says it is already installed since it thinks it's the live USB or whatnot.
[21:26] <supercom32> that's from pressing "ctrl+alt+F1" when I see nothing after booting my install USB Key.
[21:26] <BluesKaj> anyway , gotta go
[21:26] <Beastlybk> Hello
[21:27] <Beastlybk> Hello
[21:27] <Beastlybk> I need some help with 12.10 Ubuntu , I'm havimng problems booting it
[21:30] <AlexFromCanada_> I no longer have ubuntu though.
[21:30] <AlexFromCanada_> I deleted it along with the ubuntu folder in the efi
[21:31] <AlexFromCanada_> which is what had grub in it
[21:31] <Luyin> AlexFromCanada_: what else?
[21:31] <AlexFromCanada_> after DELETING grub, windows stopped working
[21:31] <Beastlybk> Can someon help me pleae.
[21:32] <AlexFromCanada_> Oh, sorry Luyin, someone else was helping me a couple minutes ago.
[21:32] <X-Seti> hello, I have a problem with the session manager where I try to login with session Mate, but putting in my Username it defaults to gnome3 and auto boots in ?
[21:32] <AlexFromCanada_> If you want I can give you a summary of my full problem.
[21:32] <AlexFromCanada_> Here ya go.
[21:32] <AlexFromCanada_> I am having an issue with windows. A while ago I had windows and mac on my computer. Then I installed ubuntu and forgot to change the grub install location, so it installed for the whole hard drive. This messed up windows so I reinstalled windows. A few months later, I decided to get rid of ubuntu so I did that. Just today, I noticed an ubuntu folder in the EFI partition of my hard drive so I deleted it. Inside that folder is 
[21:32] <AlexFromCanada_> windows will no longer boot.
[21:32] <upd> Beastlybk, just write your problem
[21:33] <Beastlybk> Ok
[21:33] <tinkster> And to answer my own question (yet again).... the piece of software (that neither aptitude nor apt-cache could identify looking for add-apt-repository) is python-software-properties ....
[21:33] <tinkster> thanks for all the fish
[21:34] <AlexFromCanada_> You know what to do luyin?
[21:35] <Luyin> AlexFromCanada_: I think on ubuntu.com somewhere is a manual on what to do when win doesn't boot anymore due to grub reasons.
[21:35] <Luyin> but not sure
[21:35] <ngochai> Hi guys, upstart keeps auto-rebooting my system, how do I debug it?
[21:35] <Beastlybk> I recently upgraded(attempted) from 12.04 to  12.10 it went through all the upgrades and removal of not needed files and what not. But when I went to restart after the installation, it wouldn't boot and would get stuck on a black screen. Right now I got it to boot it to a terminal like screen but can't  get  to the desktop whatsoever .  I've tried "startx" and I get  a "fatal error no screens found..."
[21:36] <upd> ngochai,  did you read http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging
[21:36] <ngochai> upd I did
[21:37] <AlanBell> Aceface: is that bug 971809?
[21:39] <upd> Beastlybk, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then sudo service gdm start
[21:40] <memand> Hey guys/galls, I have been trying to set up an NFS server using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo guide but when I do 'sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server I get this http://sprunge.us/PQDI output... Should I downgrade my kernel to a supported version?
[21:41] <boodroscotch> Hi y'all, I recently got an Intel Ivy Bridge laptop and I was wondering: what's the default CPU governor for Ivy Bridge CPUs? I understand PSTATES handles most of the stuff, but there are still two governors available.
[21:42] <Luyin> boodroscotch: which are available?
[21:42] <boodroscotch> Luyin: powersave and performance. the scaling driver is intel_pstates, if it's any help.
[21:43] <TheRedOctober> Greetings all. What is the preferred/safe way in 12.04 to remove an apt lock (ie. http://pastebin.com/r0Eh1Dwj )?
[21:43] <Luyin> boodroscotch: I uses none of these, sorry. I consider you should also have ondemand and conservative, but I'm not very into this.
[21:44] <Beastlybk> When I try to do the first command...nothing comes up after. Then I do sudo service gdm start and get "gdm: unrecognized service"
[21:44] <boodroscotch> Luyin: it was stated a while back that conservative and ondemand actually decreased efficiency compared to powersave and performance because of the new power management tech in Sandy Bridge CPUs and newer. Thanks anyways, though.
[21:45] <cuddylier> Anyone know how to make a FTP account for a user so they can only access a certain directory? I've googled it and tried all sorts of things with no luck, not able to connect via SFTP, just says Authentication failed.
[21:45] <gvo> cuddylier: What ftp server?
[21:45] <cuddylier> gvo vsftpd
[21:46] <meganerd> boodroscotch: on my laptop it appears as ondemand
[21:46] <meganerd> boodroscotch: I have an IvyBridge i7
[21:46] <meganerd> Beastlybk: try lightdm
[21:46] <upd> memand, https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=5549 try this
[21:47] <gvo> cuddylier: I have done it with proftpd before but it's been a while.
[21:47] <Beastlybk> Just lightdm? Sorry I'm new and not good with commands
[21:47] <meganerd> Beastlybk: no, sudo service lightdm start
[21:47] <xavier23> HI guys. Sorry to bring up this old topic. BUT….. red hat or debian for a server?
[21:47] <Marlenee> how can i recorde the bandwidth of my server
[21:48] <Beastlybk> Ok
[21:48] <meganerd> xavier23: whatever you are more comfortable with
[21:48] <gvo> cuddylier: Is there a log associate with vsftpd
[21:48] <gvo> associated.
[21:48] <upd> ah jest my bad its lightdm now xD
[21:48] <xavier23> meganerd: being a ubuntu fan, i guess debian. but someone said redhat is better?
[21:49] <Beastlybk> Ok I did that and everything says ok on the right side
[21:49] <meganerd> xavier23: I use debian or ubuntu-server, I prefer Debian mostly because it does not have a 6 month cycle, and the LTS versions have underwhelmed in the past 5 years
[21:49] <Luyin> boodroscotch: well I use ondemand while on AC and conservative on battery since yesterday. got the impression battery usage got better, but it's not confirmed yet.
[21:49] <gvo> xavier23: Rather subjective
[21:49] <Beastlybk> It seems t o be "checking battery state..."
[21:49] <meganerd> xavier23: everyone has an opinion.
[21:50] <gvo> xavier23: I run both ubuntu and centos servers.  I find ubuntu friendlier
[21:50] <meganerd> xavier23: I have been using Linux since the 90's, started with RedHat 7.something, been around Slackware, Debian (and FreeBSD, OpenBSD for non linux FLOSS).
[21:50] <meganerd> xavier23: there is good and bad in all, it really boils down to what are *you* more comfortable with.
[21:51] <gvo> meganerd: Well put
[21:51] <Artemis3> and ubuntu server
[21:51] <xavier23> meganerd: Yes agree with you ; Debian > Ubuntu for server
[21:51] <meganerd> xavier23: I can administer any of them at this point, but I know Debian and Ubuntu from the inside a lot better, so that is what I choose to use.
[21:52] <Artemis3> just stick to lts and youll be fine with ubuntu server
[21:52] <meganerd> xavier23: they are pretty much the same, only the release cadence is different
[21:52] <xavier23> meganerd: maybe I just stick with debian. i don't know anything about RHL
[21:52] <meganerd> Artemis3: not really true.  LTS can be a royal pain
[21:52] <Artemis3> im using lts on desktops, there is no problem at all
[21:52] <xavier23> I don't like the number of updates that you constantly have to apply with ubuntu
[21:52] <meganerd> xavier23: with Ubuntu 14.04, I think the plan is for a rolling release, and that interests me greatly
[21:52] <cuddylier> gvo Can't see one. I can't believe that no one has ever wanted to make multiple FTP accounts going to certain directories before or at least why it's not really popular that it's so straight forward.
[21:53] <xavier23> As a server therefore i would avoid it
[21:53] <Artemis3> its just security updates, you can't avoid those on any distro, bug/exploits are found and often patched, not updating means risking for the unwanted.
[21:53] <meganerd> xavier23: updates depend solely on what is installed.  With no GUI there are a far less updates.
[21:53] <Beastlybk> Meganerd: I did that and everytHing says ok on the right hand side.
[21:54] <yohkura> hi guys
[21:54] <xavier23> meganerd: humm ok
[21:54] <yohkura> can anyone give me some advice on how to achieve such a nice desktop like that one: http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/065/f/7/mnml_cypx_by_xenull-d5x564a.png ?
[21:54] <memand> upd: it seems that my init script for nfs-kernel-server is not the same as the one in that ticket, here http://sprunge.us/YGCG is the output of sudo cat /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server
[21:54] <meganerd> xavier23: most of the server packages look very similar between Debian and Ubuntu (at home I have 5 Ubuntu server installs, I have several VPS installs that are split between Debian and Ubuntu)
[21:55] <yohkura> (with ubuntu)
[21:55] <Artemis3> yohkura, looks like one of the light tiling wms, i wonder if thats tint2 on top?
[21:56] <meganerd> xavier23: really not much between them.  I have a cron job that checks for and applies updates every 6 hours, and checks to see if a reboot is needed every morning (and reboots it if needed).  Pretty much the same on either Debian or Ubuntu.
[21:56] <meganerd> Beastlybk: did a GUI login not appear
[21:56] <meganerd> ?
[21:56] <gvo> cuddylier: it sounds like your problem is with authentication rather than a jail problem.
[21:56] <Beastlybk> Nope
[21:56] <memand> as you can see the line in question is not in the file
[21:56] <Beastlybk> Still on this full screen terminal
[21:57] <Beastlybk> It's stuck at "checking battery state" I'm on a desktop
[21:57] <cuddylier> gvo Yeah, as I read on google there, a user should have a SFTP account by default
[21:58] <cuddylier> I have a directory that root needs to access as normal but I want just this user to access only that directory, /home/servers/survival
[21:58] <cuddylier> I set the user directory in /etc/passwd
[21:58] <cuddylier> But it hasn't seemed to have done anything
[21:58] <cuddylier> And I changed the users password
[21:59] <gvo> Did it work OK before you made the changes?
[21:59] <yohkura> Artemis3: well, i dont know but it looks gorgeous in my opinion :D pure minimalism
[21:59] <xavier23> meganerd: Wow you have a lot of servers. Anyway, thank you for sharing this advice.
[21:59] <soman> How to use variable in a for loop to pass it as a part of link to wget? http://paste.kde.org/pd63159fb/13787639/ this one doesn't work well
[21:59] <cuddylier> gvo Nope
[21:59] <cuddylier> gvo I have only tried this for the first time
[22:00] <gvo> So it doesn't have anything to do with the changes you made perhaps.  Go back to a normal configuration and see if that works first.  Then make changes.
[22:00] <cuddylier> gvo Normal configuration of what?
[22:01] <gvo> your ftp daemon.
[22:01] <gvo> and the password file.
[22:01] <meganerd> xavier23: most of them are VMs, though I am messing around with ceph so there are a couple of extra machines sitting down there for a couple of months
[22:01] <cuddylier> gvo All I would be doing is removing that user from it though
[22:01] <meganerd> xavier23: will need to power them down before the winter electricity bills arrive :)
[22:01] <gvo> So take a normal user and try to log in.  If that doesn't work, you have other problems.
[22:02] <cuddylier> What is the best commands to use to create a user and assign them to a directory then?
[22:02] <DMGrier> Hey everyone
[22:02] <gvo> server or desktop?
[22:02] <meganerd> gvo: what do want to use the comptuer for?
[22:02] <cuddylier> gvo SSH
[22:02] <gvo> Me?  I'm helping cuddylier
[22:02] <cuddylier> So server
[22:02] <Beastlybk> Meganerd: it didn't start a GUI or anything it got stuck at "checking batter state..." I'm on a desktop
[22:03] <gvo> OK useradd
[22:03] <gvo> cuddylier: ^^^
[22:03] <cuddylier> gvo useradd [username]?
[22:03] <xavier23> meganerd: cool. What can one do with so many servers, except maybe bitcoin mining? haha
[22:03] <gvo> cuddylier: useradd -m username
[22:03] <cuddylier> gvo Will we change their home directory after?
[22:04] <gvo> Not going to change it.
[22:04] <xavier23> Maybe hosting i guess
[22:04] <gvo> Make sure it works first
[22:04] <cuddylier> k
[22:04] <gvo> Be sure to add a password.
[22:04] <cuddylier> yeah, just passwd [username] right?
[22:04] <gvo> Yes as root.
[22:04] <cuddylier> After creating
[22:04] <cuddylier> yep
[22:05] <cuddylier> gvo That worked fine, I logged into their home directory with SFTP
[22:05] <meganerd> xavier23: one is a file server and VM server, one of the VMs does dhcp and dns (and PXE boot files), on VM is a Linux desktop (acessed via NX), another VM is for server (apache) stuff.  The other two "servers" are running a storage cluster proof of concept (ceph)
[22:05] <cuddylier> gvo They can view the root directory of the server though :O
[22:06] <xavier23> meganerd: Interesting
[22:06] <gvo> OK now try to change the directory to somewhere else
[22:06] <cuddylier> gvo How do I do that?
[22:06] <cuddylier> What's the command?
[22:06] <gvo> Edit the /etc/passwd file
[22:07] <meganerd> xavier23: I also have a couple of Windows server VMs, and a Windows 7 VM (so I can retire my physical Windows machine).
[22:07] <Beastlybk> meganerd: it didn't start a GUI or anything it got stuck at "checking batter state..." I'm on a desktop
[22:07] <gvo> cuddylier: be sure the new directory has rwx permission for the user.
[22:07] <cuddylier> gvo That worked but they can still access the root directory
[22:08] <gvo> I don't think you can do what you want with that ftp server.  Proftpd will let you jail users.
[22:08] <cuddylier> :(
[22:09] <upd> memand, its just annoying bug, try booting in older kernel version
[22:09] <gvo> cuddylier: Did you read the docs on vsftpd?
[22:09] <meganerd> Beastlybk: sorry, can you try "sudo service lightdm restart"
[22:09] <gvo> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/vsftp-chroot-users-limit-to-only-their-home-directory.html
[22:10] <fanda5> frucoooo
[22:10] <cuddylier> gvo I am atm
[22:10] <gvo> you are an atm?  Pretty intelligent one.
[22:10] <fanda5> hello
[22:11] <fanda5> lol
[22:11] <Beastlybk> meganerd: it is also stuck at "checking battery state..." And the cursor blinking underneath
[22:11] <kostkon> cuddylier, afk?
[22:11] <cuddylier> No kostkon
[22:11] <meganerd> Beastlybk: can you try ALT + F7
[22:11] <meganerd> Beastlybk: if that does not work, try ALT + F8
[22:12] <kostkon> cuddylier, youre just reading the docs ok :P
[22:12] <Beastlybk> Meganerd: I'm not sure if this isn't supposed to be there but right above it it says "starting virtualbox kernel modules saned disabled ; edit /etc/default/saned
[22:12] <cuddylier> It seems with vsftpd you can only jail people inside of their home directory :S
[22:13] <cuddylier> Oh wait
[22:13] <meganerd> Beastlybk: gotta run, sorry I wasn't able to help
[22:13] <cuddylier> hmm
[22:13] <memand> upd: Ok, how do I do that (sudo apt-get install linux-image-<VERSION> linux-headers-<VERSION>?)? And what kernel would you recommend?
[22:13] <Beastlybk> Meganerd: okt
[22:13] <Beastlybk>  Thanks anyway
[22:13] <meganerd> Beastlybk: saned is a scanner thing, just telling you to configure it since it is disabled by default
[22:13] <Beastlybk> O ok
[22:13] <Beastlybk> Alt f and alt 8 don't do anything
[22:14] <gvo> cuddylier: you can change their home directory in /etc/passwd as I said before.
[22:14] <Beastlybk> F8*
[22:14] <gvo> cuddylier: Don't try to put everyone in the same directory however.
[22:15] <Beastlybk> Um can someone else help since meganerd had to leave please
[22:15] <cuddylier> gvo How so?
[22:15] <gvo> how so what?
[22:15] <memand> upd: And I'm guessing that I would also have to edit the grub config files to boot the "new" kernel?
[22:15] <cuddylier> Why not put multiple people on same directory?
[22:16] <gvo> You could but you'd have to either open it up to let anyone write or put each person in the same group and give the directory group write.
[22:16] <upd> memand, usually there is allready an older kernel if you updated, and you can choose it at boot, well or check how to downgrade kernel, it will be added to grub config, and then you can set it to boot it, about which kernel i have no idea..
[22:16] <gvo> Then they could clobber each others files.
[22:17] <upd> memand, but i would spend some more time on google with fixing before downgrade
[22:17] <Beastlybk> I'm having booting issues with 12.10 and the screen gets stuck and won't boot
[22:19] <memand> upd: I will indeed spend some more time on google before downgrading, specially since it'll be a hassle getting grub configured correctly (it's a server so I only have ssh access) but thanks for the help ;)
[22:20] <gvo> cuddylier: I gotta go empty the kitty litter.
[22:20] <Beastlybk> I have the purple screen that gives me options on how I want to boot and if I choose "Ubuntu" it goes to a black screen where the cursor on the top left freezes and stops blinking
[22:20] <upd> memand, no problem i just wish i would be more helpful
[22:20] <cuddylier> gvo okay lol
[22:21] <Beastlybk> Upd, can u help me please
[22:21] <josefig_> is there a way to know the filesystem from an raid0 array?
[22:21] <upd> Beastlybk you upgrade got screwed up, a fresh install usually helps
[22:22] <Beastlybk> Upd, like using a USB?
[22:22] <upd> or dvd whatever you preferr
[22:23] <Beastlybk> Upd, or can I fresh install it through the terminal?
[22:23] <upd> no you need usb or dvd cd..
[22:23] <Beastlybk> Will I lose my data on my computer though?
[22:23] <upd> yes
[22:23] <Beastlybk> :(
[22:24] <upd> you can copy files on usb via termianal with cp command
[22:24] <memand> upd: Just a wuick update: I found this http://neuro.me.uk/blog/2009/09/20/revert-to-standard-ubuntu-kernel-on-ovh-or-kimsufi-servers witch is saying that the hosting company I run with are running their own kernel on their servers... So that is deffinatel the issue
[22:25] <ubtdntwrk> hey guys, after i did sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade my ubuntu stopped work
[22:25] <ubtdntwrk> internet doesnt work and i cant run ubuntu in graphics mode
[22:26] <Beastlybk> Wait so threes nothing I can do? I get the page with options of. " Ubuntu, advanced options for Ubuntu, memory test, memory test"
[22:26] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Try rebooting, that can happen when the linux kernel gets upgraded
[22:27] <ubtdntwrk> memand: i already did that and nothing work
[22:27] <ubtdntwrk> memand: still no internet and graphics
[22:28] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Do you know what packages got upgraded?
[22:28] <upd> Beastlybk, you can keep on trying to fix the problem
[22:29] <ubtdntwrk> memand: i dont know
[22:30] <Beastlybk> Thanks anyways
[22:31] <memand> ubtdntwrk: are you at the computer now and do you hae an usb drive nearby?
[22:32] <ubtdntwrk> memand: yes, this problem ocurred in my laptop, i'm on desktop now
[22:33] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Ok, we need to have a look at a file called /var/log/dpkg.log so if you can coppy that and upload it somewhere, then we can have a look at it
[22:35] <ubtdntwrk> memand: ok, one moment
[22:35] <Beastlybk> Upd: I was planning on upgrading to  13.04 , if I do a fresh Insall can I just go straight to that?
[22:38] <ubtdntwrk> memand: http://www.pasteall.org/45479
[22:41] <squaregoldfish> Can anyone think of a way to get my current lat/lon in a shell script? Clearly that info is available to HTML5 websites, but I can't think of a way to get it locally.
[22:44] <ubtdntwrk> memand: i guess there is nothing wrong with the update
[22:44] <c__> hola
[22:44] <c__> are here
[22:44] <c__> mexicanos ?
[22:45] <kostkon> squaregoldfish, check about geoclue with dbus. ubuntu comes with it by default
[22:45] <memand> ubtdntwrk: I'm just having a look at it, gimme a moment :)
[22:45] <c__> bye
[22:45] <ubtdntwrk> memand: ok
[22:45] <squaregoldfish> kostkon: Thanks, I'll take a look :)
[22:46] <fanda5> hello
[22:46] <Bobfeld> Beastlybk: You may try this, it helped me: http://mobile.dudamobile.com/site/ashwinraon_1?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ashwinraon.com%2F2012%2F08%2Fhow-to-solve-ubuntu-blank-screen-boot%2F&dm_redirected=true
[22:47] <Guest94472> Hi, Does anybody know how can unzip many files with same password at the same time?
[22:49] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can unzip many files with same password at the same time?
[22:50] <upd> mojtaba, unzip '*.zip' -P test
[22:52] <mojtaba> upd: Thanks
[22:52] <memand> ubtdntwrk: It was yesterday you upgraded right?
[22:52] <radiovstv> Hey folks! having an error I'm trying to solve an error with Ubuntu 12.04. On boot, i get an error "sp5100_tco: mmio address 0xb8fe00 already in use". anybody know anything about this?
[22:52] <ubtdntwrk> memand: yes
[22:52] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Is it wireless or wired or all internet that is not working?
[22:52] <ubtdntwrk> memand: both wireless and wired
[22:53] <memand> ubtdntwrk: What happens if you do sudo dhcpcd
[22:53] <ubtdntwrk> memand: dhcpcd command not found
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> unzip is weird - its the only app ive noticed that supports a argument like '*.zip'  ;)
[22:54] <walterwoj> Hi guys, some time ago my ehternet just quit working.  The lights are always on now but the machine says there is no harware and no ethernet connection.  I put in a new (second) card and that one works.  The main one is on the MB.  CAn anyone help me fix this?
[22:54] <Dr_Willis> the single quotes are critical. otherwise the shell parses the *
[22:55] <kostkon> :/
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> radiovstv, Did upi have a kernel upgrade?
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> you*
[22:55] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Oh, right... It's been a while since I've worked on ubuntu systems. Are you on a wire now?
[22:55] <ubtdntwrk> memand: yes
[22:56] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Try sudo dhclient
[22:56] <radiovstv> willee-nille, no, I don't think so. (Pretty new user)
[22:56] <ubtdntwrk> memand: nothing happened
[22:56] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Try ping google.com
[22:57] <baphomet1> hello all! could anyone provide me with advice for how to connect to an IPSec VPN from ubuntu?
[22:57] <ubtdntwrk> memand: unknown host www.google.com
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> radiovstv, How do yoo update, and do you look at what is there? I would try a previous kernel from the grub menu.
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> you*
[22:58] <walterwoj> when I do "sudo lshw | sed -n '/\*-network/,${/\*-/{/\*-network/!q;};p;};'" it only sees the new card not the old one.
[22:58] <radiovstv> I usually use the update manager, I usually browse through it and saw nothing of concern
[22:58] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Ok, try lspci -v
[22:58] <memand> ubtdntwrk: that will tell you the model of the network controllers
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> radiovstv, I suspect you had a kernel update there was one lately try a earlier kernel, just a guess here though.
[22:59] <radiovstv> thanks!!
[23:00] <ubtdntwrk> memand: what are we looking for?
[23:00] <ubtdntwrk> memand: network controller?
[23:01] <ubtdntwrk> memand: broadcom corporation bcm4313 802.11b/g/n wireless lan controller
[23:01] <memand> ubtdntwrk: that would be a good place to start ;) What does it say in the field Kernel driver in use: ?
[23:02] <upd> baphomet1, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[23:03] <walterwoj> Has anyone here had a problem with loosing there eth0 after a update/restart?
[23:03] <ubtdntwrk> memand: i didnt find a field like that
[23:04] <zerick> walterwoj, maybe missing the "auto eth0" ?
[23:04] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Ok, in the output of lspci -v where there something about an ethernet controller?
[23:05] <walterwoj> zerick: Where woudl that be?
[23:05] <upd> walterwoj, so sudo lshw -C  does not show your card ?
[23:06] <ubtdntwrk> memand: yes : realtek semicondutor co, ltd. rtl8101e/rtl8102e pci express fast ethernet controller
[23:06] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Ok, and under that there where allso nothing about any kernel driers in use?
[23:07] <ubtdntwrk> memand: nothing about kernel drivers
[23:07] <baphomet1> back!  sorry about that.  So the question is, could someone help me get connected to an IPSec VPN using ubuntu?  I tried, but something is wrong.
[23:07] <mojtaba> upd: It does not unzip them
[23:08] <mojtaba> upd: It says caution: filename not matched
[23:08] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Well that could be the issue ;) gimme a sec and I'll see if I can find you the drivers
[23:08] <mojtaba> Do you know how can I unzip many files with the same password at the same time?
[23:09] <upd> mojtaba, unzip \*.zip -P test
[23:10] <mojtaba> upd: same error
[23:11] <walterwoj> upd: sudo lshw -C [what?] what you posted gives a help message. With ' sudo lshw' I do not find the card.
[23:11] <xtriz> i have customized ubuntu desktop can  i keep ubuntu services in it or i should remove it ?
[23:14] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Try this sudo modprobe r8169
[23:14] <mojtaba> Do you know how can I unzip many files with the same password at the same time?
[23:14] <upd> mojtaba, it should work \ ships asterix mybe unzip \*zip
[23:14] <upd> skips
[23:14] <upd> walterwoj what does dmesg say, and lspci, and also enable onboard ethernet in bios
[23:17] <walterwoj> upd, neither have any refference to eth0 or it's hardware.
[23:17] <ubtdntwrk> memand: fatal: module r8169 not found
[23:18] <walterwoj> the new card was assigned eth1 and it is listed.
[23:19] <walterwoj> upd, onboard Ethernet has always been on.  The lights on the card are both on sild, even when no cable is present.
[23:20] <memand> ubtdntwrk: Have you been doing anything else other that the update?
[23:20] <upd> walterwoj, is that a server ?
[23:21] <ubtdntwrk> memand: well, i did the update and installed new packages
[23:21] <ubtdntwrk> memand: if i'm correct, the last ones was related to liblwjgl
[23:23] <upd> walterwoj, backup /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and remove it and restart
[23:23] <walterwoj> upd, sort of do you mean hardware (no, desktop parts), software (no, ubuntu 12.04 LTS), usage (yes, web and samba shares and transmission seedbox, it's not headless either)
[23:24] <[b]> hi
[23:24] <[b]> who needs help??
[23:24] <Brispere> i do i do
[23:25] <[b]> Brispere: tell me
[23:25] <Brispere> I have uefi
[23:25] <[b]> Brispere: well... shit
[23:25] <Brispere> cant boot into ubuntu without a flash drive prepared with refind
[23:25] <[b]> Brispere: idk a shi about uefi
[23:25] <[b]> you can go to #archlinux
[23:26] <Brispere> lel
[23:26] <[b]> ?
[23:26] <Brispere> [b] will they help with elementary?
[23:27] <[b]> elementary is awesome
[23:27] <[b]> but your problem resides in the uefi shit... that's simple but idk a shit
[23:27] <memand> ubtdntwrk: It seems that something went horribly wrong durring that upgrade, and now the kerne modules are missing... Have a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411
[23:27] <OerHeks> Brispere, join #elementary
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> !language | [b]
[23:27] <Brispere> I cant even talk in #archlinux right now
[23:28] <gordonjcp> Brispere: you're not missing much
[23:28] <memand> And if anyone else has any idea how this could happen it would be cool if you could pitch in here :/
[23:28] <Brispere> is there a #uefisucks ?
[23:28] <walterwoj> udp, I did 'sudo cp 70-persistent-net.rules 70-persistent-net.rules.backup' then 'sudo cp 70-persistent-net.rules' and not it's safe to 'reboot' right?
[23:28] <[b]> yes
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> Brispere, I think the arch channel needs you to be registered
[23:28] <Brispere> ah
[23:29] <Brispere> how do
[23:29] <[b]> join
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> !register
[23:29] <ubtdntwrk> memand: ubuntu dont have a fallback option that restore system to the last update? hahaha
[23:29] <memand> Brispere: /msg nickserv help
[23:29] <upd> walterwoj, sudo cp ... ? or sudo rm ... ? yes it is safe
[23:29] <crianca> hi
[23:30] <anonuser> hey
[23:30] <[b]> hi
[23:30] <walterwoj> udp, I meant AND, rebooting now, BRB.
[23:30] <Brispere> registering nao
[23:31] <crianca> yes
[23:31] <memand> ubtdntwrk: the thing is that when something is deleted in linux it is deleted for real, so the only way to make a fallback would be to have a list of the packages that where installed at the last update and then fall back to them, but that would need an internet connection do work
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> memand, sorta accurate, there are files and configs that stay, depends on the delete.
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> even in purges at times
[23:32] <memand> wilee-nilee: true that, but the binary is gone
[23:32] <user__> how to install sdl 2.0 in ubuntu
[23:32] <memand> wilee-nilee: does purges retain stuff????
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> memand, depends on what its atached to.
[23:33] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, you there, how are thing?
[23:33] <chocolatemousse> things*
[23:34] <chocolatemousse> user__, read the manual, install sdl-dev
[23:34] <memand> wilee-nilee: well, the more you learn ;) Btw, have you ever heard of kernel modules gone missing after an upgrade?
[23:34] <user__> it installs the old version 1.2
[23:35] <user__> i need 2.0
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> memand, NOt really, but I'm just a armchair user in general.
[23:35] <chocolatemousse> question for the support channel: anyone know what the ubuntu kernel modules for the mouse are? I was playing with  my drivers recently, may need a reset
[23:35] <memand> chocolatemousse: usb or trackpad?
[23:35] <chocolatemousse> user__, again, read the manual on the website, if its not installed in the repos, you are gonna have to do it manually
[23:35] <chocolatemousse> memand, both I think
[23:35] <chocolatemousse> memand, noticed my scroll stopped working today
[23:36] <chocolatemousse> memand, both mouse and trackpad seem to 'work' still though
[23:36] <memand> chocolatemousse: I'm pretty sure it's psouse
[23:36] <memand> *psmouse
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> chocolatemousse, Not sure you have to dig into the kernel to fix.
[23:36] <chocolatemousse> memand, thanks, is it in the repos?
[23:36] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, I was dinking around with a custom psmouse version, I may need to
[23:36] <memand> have a look at this http://www.tuxtrix.com/2010/06/restarting-your-touchpadmouse-in-ubuntu.html
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> memand, thnx
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> chocolatemousse, ganing mouse?
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> gaming*
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, failry normal mouse
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, I was seeing if I could get multi-touch working on my trackpad, doesn't look like it does that anymore
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> ah, weird man "in a 1960's lingo"
[23:37] <upd> walterwoj, did it blow ?
[23:38] <upd> gues it did.
[23:38] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, used to do it Once Upon A Time, but I may have had a MOBO change since that time and the manufacturer may or may not have switched out the trackpad hardware revision
[23:38] <pinuzzo89> ciaooo
[23:38] <pinuzzo89> !list
[23:38] <chocolatemousse> wilee-nilee, its an ALPS2 Glidpoint, if you know anything abuot those
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> nope
[23:39] <pinuzzo89> !list
[23:39] <memand> chocolatemousse: If you wanna enable "advanced" features of the trackpad you should have a look at this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Configuration_on_the_fly
[23:40] <memand> chocolatemousse: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Advanced_configuration
[23:41] <chocolatemousse> memand, thanks, I did see SHMConfig, however there are some sec concerns over that
[23:42] <chocolatemousse> memand, also I do have xinput
[23:42] <chocolatemousse> memand, thanks for the pointer anyways
[23:42] <walterwoj> udp, congrats now I lost both my wireless conncetion and the wired one.  they are both 'unmanaged'
[23:42] <walterwoj> ud
[23:43] <walterwoj> upd: ^^ that's for you ^^
[23:43] <upd> did you move backup back ?
[23:43] <walterwoj> no
[23:44] <walterwoj> am I supposed to?
[23:44] <upd> well do it, and you will have wireless back.
[23:45] <walterwoj> I have tethered to my phone for the time being, is there anything to do now to fix my original issue?
[23:46] <upd> walterwoj, or post lspci dmesg lshw somewhere
[23:46] <upd> and ifconfig iwconfig as root everything...
[23:47] <walterwoj> also I don't remember where that backup was....
[23:48] <gblazer> hi there, does anybody know httperf well? I'm trying to replay the logs, and specify different headers per request line. is it doable? i can't find it in the docs
[23:49] <upd> walterwoj,  /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[23:49] <walterwoj> thanks, working on the others, but no change in theier output from before...
[23:50] <upd> walterwoj, just post somewhere
[23:52] <OerHeks> what is the use for so many clones jrgiffo-1 to 19?
[23:54] <Rask> Hello, channel.  I've encountered a number of web pages that say you can enable a VNC server that shares your main desktop instead of creating a new one by going to System>Preferences>Remote Desktop... but that seems to apply to some very outdated versions of Ubuntu and I can't figure out where that setting has moved, if it's still around at all.  is it?
[23:55] <walterwoj> I restoed the back how do I get my network remanaged
[23:56] <walterwoj> upd: http://pastebin.com/BWkf9emY  -- lspci
[23:57] <Rask> Failing that... is there a way to get a VNC server to use the same desktop as is displayed on the monitor?  So far all the options I've found just make new desktops.
[23:57] <walterwoj> upd: http://pastebin.com/HZ0ks6zW -- dmesg
[23:58] <gblazer> any httperf takers?
[23:59] <walterwoj> upd: http://pastebin.com/q48EctJY -- lshw
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> gblazer, with some details to the channel maybe use a pastebin if needd.