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lordievaderGood morning.07:37
smartboyhwHmm, no people voted since I left?07:45
lordievadersmartboyhw: Voted on what?07:56
smartboyhwlordievader, please look at /topic07:56
lordievaderAh, downside of long topics, they don't fit in the topbar or irssi.07:57
smartboyhwlol07:57
apacheloggerit's why people should tinyurl their crap07:57
apacheloggeror simply not write their grandma's birthday into the channel topic07:58
apacheloggerbut oh well07:58
apacheloggerthat fight I gave up years ago07:58
apacheloggerthe solution is: don't read channel topics :S07:58
lordievaderapachelogger: ;)07:58
smartboyhwapachelogger, heh. BTW, did you vote?07:58
apacheloggernope07:58
Riddellhappy tuesday08:18
Riddellanyone see this bug? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32457408:30
ubottuKDE bug 324574 in kdeui "Application specific icon now doesn't work" [Critical,Resolved: fixed]08:30
RiddellApplication specific icon now doesn't work in 4.1108:30
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BlizzzRiddell: i have no issues with kdevelop08:31
RiddellBlizzz: got 4.11.1 installed?08:32
BlizzzRiddell: 4.11.108:32
Blizzzyes08:32
Riddellthanks, I don't see the issue either, maybe we already patch for it or maybe I'm missing something08:32
BlizzzRiddell: but i also have a pretty fresh .kde08:34
Riddellthat won't make a difference08:35
Riddellnothing in out kde-workspace to patch it08:36
Riddellnothing in our kde-workspace to patch it08:36
BlizzzRiddell: I opened now Calligra Plan and Sheets. In the Open  dialoge most of the templates habe an icon with a question mark. can this be related?08:36
Riddellhad a user ask nicely so I want to help :)08:36
RiddellBlizzz: no this bug is about app icons only, I think that'll be just missing icon files08:37
Blizzzapp icons are all fine08:38
Riddellwell no harm in adding the patch anyway I'd say08:40
lordievaderRiddell: Kdevelop works fine here too. Though I have to say I compiled kdevelop 4.6 myself, not sure if that matters.08:40
Riddellno it's a bug in kde-workspace08:41
lordievader"Application like Quassel / KDevelop"?08:42
Riddellit's not a very clear bug report, guess that's just where he was seeing the issue08:43
apacheloggerRiddell: FWIW plasma-widget-networkmanagement was not removed when I upgraded my saucy setup08:57
apacheloggeralso the new thing aint authenticating with my wifi08:58
apacheloggeror maybe it's the driver that is no w defunct,s eeing as it now spams tty009:06
Riddellapachelogger: yes removing the old one is yet to be fixed, I had hoped the version upgrade tool would do it for us09:23
Riddellapachelogger: try a dist-upgrade, the version I uploaded yesterday should do wifi authentication from the applet (the old one you had to set it up in the full dialog)09:23
smartboyhwRiddell, are we dealing with networkmanagerqt and modemmanagerqt new releases in Saucy?09:31
smartboyhwRiddell, Bug 121983910:42
ubottubug 1219839 in Ubuntu "[FFe] [needs-packaging] kdeconnect-kde" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121983910:42
smartboyhwIt's ready10:42
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1223287] package kde-runtime-data 4:4.8.5-0ubuntu0.1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1223287 (by Prabodh)10:55
Riddellsmartboyhw: sweet, have you tested it?11:15
smartboyhwRiddell, my phone is charging, so I will test it later-.-11:15
Riddellsmartboyhw: yeah getting the releases of nm bits would be good11:15
smartboyhw(I got it to 0 today)11:15
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lordievaderIt has just been brought to my attention in #kubuntu that jockey-kde is broken, is this a known issue? (AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'InstallProgress')11:17
Riddelllordievader: it's an issue I suspect is the case but I've not looked into at all, bug reports welcome11:18
smartboyhwlordievader, and patches welcome too:P11:18
lordievaderRiddell: It is both the jockey-kde and jockey-text (and probably jockey-gtk, don't have that one).11:18
Riddellnot sure it still exists11:19
Riddelljockey is unmaintained so it's up to us to fix it or drop it11:19
RiddellJontheEchidna: I don't suppose muon is getting driver setup any time soon?11:19
lordievaderAh I see.11:19
RiddellI'm not even sure what jockey is used for these days11:19
smartboyhwRiddell, thinking of this missing symbol in libmm-qt11:19
smartboyhw+ _ZnwmPv@Base 0.5.0-0ubuntu111:19
smartboyhw #MISSING: 0.0~git20130816# (subst|arch=amd64)_Znw{size_t}Pv@Base 0.0~git2013081611:19
* Riddell hugs thinkpad with intel components that don't need it11:19
smartboyhwThinking if it is OK to replace11:20
smartboyhw(i.e. use the current one to overrule the MISSING symbol)11:20
Riddellsmartboyhw: how do you mean use the current one?11:20
lordievaderUgh ubuntu-bug segfaults :(11:20
yofellordievader: which version of pykde is installed? (use apport-cli in the meantime)11:21
smartboyhwRiddell, i.e. let _ZnmwPv@Base go in and delete (subst|arch=amd64) _Znw{size_t}Pv@Base11:21
Riddelllordievader: yes now that's an issue I had too, make sure you've got the latest pykde and sip4 and other pykde bits work11:21
smartboyhwRiddell, ^11:21
Riddellsmartboyhw: oh no they're separate symbols11:21
Riddellsmartboyhw: has the soname been bumped for the release?11:21
yofelRiddell: IIRC we're still using jockey because the ubuntu-drivers stuff is py3 and kpython3pluginfactory doesn't exist11:22
lordievaderyofel, Riddell: E: Unable to locate package pykde11:22
Riddelllordievader: python-kde411:22
lordievaderIs already the newest version/11:22
Riddelllordievader: so yeah, a bug report needed for that too :(11:23
yofellordievader: which is?11:23
smartboyhwRiddell, checking11:23
lordievaderyofel: 4:4.11.0-0ubuntu111:23
lordievaderRiddell: With sip4 you mean python-sip?11:23
yofelyou need 4.11.1-0ubuntu211:23
Riddelllordievader: yep11:23
yofelpossibly stuck in proposed11:24
jussiso company I work for just released a bunch of stuff as open source, thought maybe some of you all would like to have a look... http://nomovok.com/news/48/63/Nomovok-released-WRATH-to-Open-Source11:24
lordievaderThat one wasn't installed though, python-sip.11:24
Riddelloh arm breakage11:24
lordievaderHmm it still segfaults after installing sip.11:24
* Riddell fears the wrath of jussi 11:24
yofellordievader: as I said, your python-kde4 i stoo old, and python-sip needs to be 4.15.2~snapshot-20130906-0ubuntu111:25
smartboyhwScottK, thanks for approving, now I seriously need MOTUs-.-11:25
Riddellsmartboyhw: kdeconnect needs tested before uploading11:26
smartboyhwRiddell, hmm, I am building the old package and the MISSING symbols occur too11:26
smartboyhwRiddell, OK11:26
Riddellsmartboyhw: interesting, so a compiler change probably11:27
smartboyhwRiddell, yeah11:27
Riddellsmartboyhw: tempting to just ignore it then11:27
lordievaderyofel: Appearantly the newer version of python-kde4 is not yet in the repo's I have enabled.11:27
smartboyhwRiddell, I'm extremely tempted to ignore it, so ignoring.11:27
yofellordievader: it is in saucy-proposed, so maybe it's stuck there11:28
jussiRiddell: not the name I came up with ;)11:28
yofelshould be out soon11:28
lordievaderyofel: Oke, cool :)11:28
Riddelllordievader: yay, ubuntu-bug works if I install pykde from -propoesd11:29
smartboyhwHmm, lost symbols11:31
smartboyhwAll coming from the same thing11:31
lordievaderRiddell: Ah great \o/11:31
Riddellsmartboyhw: if it's just the same compiler change that should be fine to ignore, the compiler usually understands these things better than me11:32
smartboyhwRiddell, checking11:33
smartboyhwBut I'm thinking it's not11:33
Riddelldo we have any arm PPAs for testing?11:33
Riddellsmartboyhw: you have one hidden away don't you?11:33
smartboyhwRiddell, yes11:33
lordievaderI can try my hand at fixing the jockey bug, but I'm not sure if I'll succeed.11:34
smartboyhwRiddell, eh ew, the symbols were replaced with the 0.5.0 version:P11:34
yofelhm, about that symbol11:35
yofelwhat's the actual code for that?11:35
yofelI've seen symbolshelper doing wrong size_t mappings in the past11:35
smartboyhwyofel, http://paste.kde.org/paf59e7e2/11:36
* smartboyhw is good enough to actually find the code related:P11:36
Riddelllordievader: go for it :)11:36
yofeluh, not really11:36
yofel$ c++filt _ZnwmPv11:36
yofeloperator new(unsigned long, void*)11:36
smartboyhwNormally, I fail to do so11:36
yofelthat paste doesn't talk about operators11:36
smartboyhw    : ModemInterface(*new ModemGsmSmsInterfacePrivate(path, this), parent)11:37
smartboyhw!?11:37
smartboyhwyofel, ^11:37
tsimpsonthat's fine, as long as it's deleted11:38
Riddellsmartboyhw: can you upload this to arm ppa? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/pykde4_4.11.0-0ubuntu2~ppa1.dsc11:39
smartboyhwRiddell, OK sure11:39
smartboyhwRiddell, I think I need the _source.changes file11:43
tsimpsonsmartboyhw: you'll need to generate it (so you can sign it)11:44
Riddellsmartboyhw: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/pykde4_4.11.0-0ubuntu2~ppa1_source.changes11:44
Riddellbut as tsimpson says, you'll need to sign it11:44
ScottKsmartboyhw: You should work on becoming one (MOTU).11:49
yofelsmartboyhw: are you building on i386?12:03
smartboyhwScottK, oh?12:08
smartboyhwInteresting though:P12:08
smartboyhwRiddell, signing is easy12:08
smartboyhwI just don't want to make my own:P12:08
smartboyhwScottK, I would rather want to work on being a DD:P12:10
yofelsmartboyhw: ok, I think you were right with just dumping the whole subs stuff for the symbol, so go ahead and do that (in case that was a 32bit build)12:13
yofel*subst12:13
smartboyhwyofel, unfortunately, that is an amd64 build-.-12:13
* smartboyhw thinks he has just done something stupid12:13
smartboyhwAnyhow, can just run it in a pbuilder12:14
smartboyhwRiddell, https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-3-for-arm/+build/495159012:14
yofelwould be weird really, as _Znw{size_t}Pv is _ZnwmPv on amd6412:15
Riddellsmartboyhw: should be done any day now :)12:15
smartboyhwRiddell, any day, LOL12:15
yofellets hope pykde doesn't use automoc12:16
smartboyhwyofel, why? Automoc doesn't work on ARM?12:17
yofelnot in qemu-arm bug 107711612:18
ubottubug 1077116 in qemu (Ubuntu) "automoc4 segfaults when building in an armhf pbuilder on an amd64 host" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107711612:18
Riddellsmartboyhw: um it failed even earlier :(12:38
smartboyhwRiddell, -.-12:40
RiddellI wonder if that's because it's not compiling against -proposed12:40
smartboyhwRiddell, OK, I will enable -proposed12:40
smartboyhwEnabled and re-started builds12:41
Riddellthanks smartboyhw 12:41
Riddellbut I see the only stuff it built againt in -proposed was libmirclient-dev12:41
Riddellwhich shouldn't even be in there12:41
smartboyhwRiddell, libmirclient!?12:42
smartboyhw-.-12:42
smartboyhwWhen did we start supporting XMir!? 0.012:42
yofelnever, it's probably pulled in by something else12:43
apacheloggerqt I say12:45
smartboyhwMeh12:46
smartboyhwHmm12:48
smartboyhwpykde4 failed again12:48
smartboyhwCode error-.-12:48
yofelI only just realized that now, but why are you building 4.11.0, not 4.11.1?12:49
smartboyhwyofel, hell!?12:49
smartboyhwHmm, i386 and amd64 have different symbols (i386 uses j, amd64 uses m) -.-12:50
smartboyhwRiddell, please give me a proper file-.-12:51
yofelsmartboyhw: that's (subst) {size_t} then12:52
yofelj = unsigned int, m = unsigned long12:53
smartboyhwyofel, OK...12:53
yofelsmartboyhw: as pointer addresses have different size on 32/6412:54
smartboyhwyofel, but using that will fail the amd64 builds here12:54
smartboyhwyofel, ^12:54
smartboyhwIt's failing the builds12:55
Riddellsmartboyhw: pardon?12:55
yofeloh12:55
smartboyhwRiddell, you gave me 4.11.0 -.-12:55
smartboyhwInstead of 4.11.112:55
yofelok, wrong, size_t would be qw(m|j}12:56
Riddellsmartboyhw: hmm, how did that happen?12:57
smartboyhwyofel, ( or {?12:57
smartboyhwRiddell, your fault, apparently, now looking back at the logs12:57
yofelsmartboyhw: that was just typo, problem is that symbolshelper expects qwm, and we have nwm12:57
debfxsymbolshelper is able to guess the subst type if you feed it all the build logs in one run12:57
smartboyhwyofel, OK12:58
yofelhm12:58
yofelsmartboyhw: do what debfx said12:58
* smartboyhw thinks batchpatch is a bit dangerous12:58
yofelit's not12:58
debfxor you can just look at the source code :)12:58
smartboyhwdebfx, yofel using batchpatch failed for me -.-13:03
smartboyhwCan't call method "expand" on an undefined value at /usr/share/perl5/Debian/PkgKde/SymbolsHelper/Symbol.pm line 112, <$filehandle> line 121.13:03
smartboyhwpkgkde-symbolshelper: error: libmodemmanagerqt0 patching FAILED. Will NOT continue.13:03
smartboyhwSigh, maybe I should get my phone and test KDE Connect instead13:03
Riddellsmartboyhw: try this http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/pykde4_4.11.1-0ubuntu3~ppa1.dsc13:04
smartboyhwRiddell, give me a _source.changes file?13:05
smartboyhwThat's easier for me13:05
Riddellsmartboyhw: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/pykde4_4.11.1-0ubuntu3~ppa1_source.changes13:05
yofeldebfx: ^ as far as I see, symbolshelper doesn't support nw(j|m)13:05
yofelunless the q doesn't belong to the symbols13:07
* yofel sucks at perl13:07
smartboyhwHmm Kubuntu doesn't seem to recognize my Bluetooth13:08
smartboyhwThe adapter, that is13:08
smartboyhwHeh, bluetooth package isn't installed-.-13:10
smartboyhwNo, still can't find it13:11
yofelhm, no, I misunderstood symbolshelper13:13
debfxyofel: size_t seems to match what smartboyhw wrote13:13
yofelyes, I agree now13:13
debfxqw() is just some perl syntax foo13:14
Riddellanyone tested the videolan libdvdcss package?13:14
apacheloggerohm13:14
Riddellapachelogger: able to test?13:14
smartboyhw:( Can't get Bluetooth working, no test13:14
apacheloggeryofel: dpkg-architecture as used in neon5's envrionment.rc is part of dpkg-dev13:15
smartboyhwRiddell, I can't test KDE Connect myself13:15
Riddellsmartboyhw: can't you use a wired connection?13:15
yofelapachelogger: oops13:15
apacheloggerRiddell: if you tell me how13:15
smartboyhwRiddell, sure, but wire is weird in this case:P13:15
apacheloggerand if I find a dvd13:15
Riddellapachelogger: install from archive here, find a dvd, watch film http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html13:15
Riddellsmartboyhw: what's weird about wired?13:16
smartboyhwRiddell, I'm not sure if it works13:16
apacheloggerRiddell: that page totally needs to give me a command with add-apt-repository13:17
yofelapachelogger: do you know a different way of reading DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH without dpkg-architecture?13:17
smartboyhwRiddell, in wired, KDE Connect Android can't read it13:17
smartboyhw*detect it13:18
apacheloggeryofel: why do we need to read it anyway?13:18
apacheloggeryofel: just read at buildtime and sed into the rc?13:18
yofeloh, good point13:18
QuintasanRiddell: As for Plasma Active 4. Going to need more time, it's more complicated at this point now that I took a look at it13:19
yofelIIRC I added that because something wasn't found anymore after some buildsystem automatically used CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE13:19
RiddellQuintasan: I suspected it might be, can you write on trello what's complex and what needs done?13:19
QuintasanFirst there is an important interrogation to be held13:20
Quintasansmartboyhw: Attention! What is the patch for workspace you were talking about?13:20
Riddellgosh, an interrogation13:20
smartboyhwQuintasan,the one in the Active 4 download folder13:20
smartboyhwQuintasan, 0.013:20
Quintasanthe readme states you HAVE to patch it in13:21
Quintasanand I believe you said someone told you not to patch it in13:21
smartboyhwQuintasan, but upstream definitely says no13:21
smartboyhwThat was discussed not only in the upstream channel but also in Active channel13:21
Quintasanlol13:21
smartboyhwRiddell, seriously, KDE Connect is not working here13:22
smartboyhwCan somebody having an Android phone test it?13:22
apacheloggerRiddell: works13:23
QuintasanKDE Connect? wat is that13:23
* Quintasan googles13:23
Quintasanoooh13:24
Quintasansmartboyhw: Do we have a pacakge13:24
Quintasan?13:24
smartboyhwQuintasan, yes13:24
QuintasanWhere?13:24
smartboyhw https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-1/+files/kdeconnect-kde_0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc13:25
smartboyhwQuintasan, ^13:27
QuintasanI can see it, compiling13:27
smartboyhwHmm13:29
smartboyhwHold all testing of it13:29
yofelapachelogger: fixed13:32
apacheloggeryofel: I just saw, you are wicked :P13:33
apacheloggeryofel++13:33
RiddellQuintasan: are you able to test kde connect?13:36
smartboyhwHmm, my package is obviously correct in terms of files installed, but it just can't launch the suitable kcm module13:36
smartboyhwRiddell, I have some packaging problems here-.- (Small ones, some leftovers, not affecting the install itself)13:36
smartboyhwNow, the problem is that the install itself doesn't work -.-13:37
Riddellsmartboyhw: of kde connect?13:37
smartboyhwRiddell, I mean, the packages are OK it seems, but I can't seem to find the KCM applet everywhere13:37
Riddellsmartboyhw: "kdeconnect-kde" why the funny name?13:38
smartboyhwRiddell, upstream name, not mine13:38
smartboyhwThey wanted to classify between kdeconnect-android13:39
Quintasanhmmm13:39
apacheloggeryah so that should be kdeconnect-plasma13:40
Riddellsmartboyhw: I agree, kcmshell4 kcm_kdeconnect  is broken13:40
apacheloggerwelcome to brandinghell13:40
smartboyhwapachelogger, LOL13:40
smartboyhwRiddell, yeah13:40
Quintasanlibkdeconnect-dev_0.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb13:40
smartboyhwNow I think of it, I'm re-considering are we shipping this13:40
Quintasan./usr/lib/kde4/kcm_kdeconnect.so13:40
Quintasanehm13:40
apachelogger^ !13:40
smartboyhwQuintasan, ?13:40
apacheloggerthat be a plugin13:40
QuintasanNo wonder it doesn't work13:41
apacheloggerthere is .so which is a symlink to .so.foo.whatever13:41
yofelsmartboyhw: you put the kcm itself into the dev package13:41
apacheloggerand there is .so which is a shared object without versioning13:41
apacheloggerkcm (the tech) uses latter as that is how one does plugins13:41
smartboyhwyofel, OOPS 13:41
apacheloggerso right now the plugin is in the -dev13:41
Quintasanand once you install -dev package it works13:42
apacheloggerput it in a release note; it'll be fine13:42
Riddellusr/lib/*so usually a library dev symlink usr/lib/kde4/*so usually a plugin13:42
* apachelogger runs13:42
* Riddell cheers as pykde4 continues compiling on arm13:43
QuintasanGreat13:43
QuintasanIt works!13:43
QuintasanHowever Notification sync does not13:43
RiddellQuintasan: kdeconnect?13:43
QuintasanSays it's not available on my Android version13:43
QuintasanRiddell: Yes13:43
Riddellawooga13:43
RiddellQuintasan: what does it do again?13:43
QuintasanDid we upload it to the repositories?13:44
QuintasanRiddell: Well, it apparently integrates Android into KDE as of now13:44
QuintasanI can control Amarok from my phone and send notifications from my phone to desktop13:44
QuintasanRiddell: Think you could try calling me?13:44
RiddellQuintasan: number?13:45
apacheloggeryou know I just realized, I think no one ever did not make the mistake of putting a plugin in the dev13:45
QuintasanRiddell: Works!13:46
RiddellQuintasan: what happens?13:46
Quintasanhttp://wstaw.org/m/2013/09/10/plasma-desktopGM2040.png13:46
Riddellsweet13:47
QuintasanSPLENDID IF I MAY SAY SO13:47
Riddellsmartboyhw: let's get this baby uploaded13:47
QuintasanFirst have him fix it13:47
RiddellQuintasan: is that with bluetooth?13:47
smartboyhwSo, where should I put it!?13:47
QuintasanRiddell: WiFi as far as I can tell13:47
smartboyhwRiddell, let's tell me where is it-.-13:47
smartboyhw(I mean, where should I put it)13:47
smartboyhwQuintasan, WiFi!?13:47
Riddellsmartboyhw: anywhere I can get we can get it to upload it13:48
smartboyhwRiddell, no, I mean the .so plugins-.-13:48
Quintasansmartboyhw: You put it into -dev package for christs sake, it's no a development library but a kcm plugin, it should go into kdeconnect-kde13:48
QuintasanBUT13:48
QuintasanI would rename this crap to kdeconnect-kded13:48
smartboyhwQuintasan, tell upstream to rename this stuff13:49
QuintasanOr even better, you could split it into kdeconned-kded and a kde-config-kdeconnect13:49
Riddellyeah let's go with upstream's name but ask them to rename to kdeconnect-plasma13:49
RiddellQuintasan: ug no, why would you want to install separately?13:49
QuintasanRiddell: We already do magic like this13:49
QuintasanLike kde-config-telepathy-accounts13:50
QuintasanOr kde-config-cron for that example13:50
smartboyhwQuintasan, I rather would not want to make it too complicated-.-13:50
RiddellQuintasan: they're separate upstream sources13:50
Riddellsmartboyhw++13:50
QuintasanIt's not really that complicated, is it?13:51
QuintasanAs least it doesn't look so from my viewpoint13:51
Riddellno but there's also no need13:51
lordievaderRiddell: I figured out what the problem is with the jockey, it depends on depricated features of python-apt. They are removed in the newer version.13:52
* smartboyhw prefers "Less is More", so no splitting packages like that-.-13:53
smartboyhwRiddell, I need 2 MOTUs.13:54
Riddelllordievader: good work!13:55
smartboyhwRiddell, 4.11.1 build failed (pykde4)13:55
Riddelllordievader: but does that mean all hope is lost or might there be a work around?13:55
Riddellsmartboyhw: what do you need 2 motus for?13:55
smartboyhwRiddell, NEW packages needs two MOTUs to review it before upload, wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages says that13:56
Riddellsmartboyhw: that's a good fail, it passed the error I had before and this is a similar one13:56
QuintasanChrist, just give me the new source and I will upload it for you13:56
QuintasanWait13:56
QuintasanWe need FFe for it.13:56
RiddellQuintasan: we have a FFe13:57
smartboyhwQuintasan, nah, ScottK acked13:57
apacheloggerso we need two MOTUs13:57
apacheloggertwo MOTUs and a bottle of rum13:57
lordievaderRiddell: The first error I've fixed, however there are more. There is still hope :)13:57
Riddellsmartboyhw: don't worry about MOTUs, we're doing it under kubuntu-dev13:57
Riddelllordievader: good luck!13:57
smartboyhwRiddell, Quintasan https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-2/+files/kdeconnect-kde_0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc13:57
RiddellQuintasan: want to upload it and I'll new it?13:58
QuintasanRiddell: It shall be as you suggested13:58
smartboyhwQuintasan, Riddell Thank you:)13:58
smartboyhwQuintasan, are you a DD?13:58
Quintasansmartboyhw: s/unrecgonziable/unrecognizeable13:58
smartboyhwQuintasan, -.- (sorry)13:59
Quintasanbesides, what is unrecognizable in Debian?13:59
* smartboyhw does not have the best English in the world13:59
smartboyhwQuintasan, um13:59
smartboyhwIt's like #!xdg-open13:59
QuintasanI do realise that, that's why pointed it out, I'm not doing that with bad intentions13:59
smartboyhwLintian cannot recognize it14:00
smartboyhws/Debian/Lintian/ should have been it14:00
kubotusmartboyhw: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"14:00
smartboyhwMy fault14:00
Quintasansmartboyhw: Make it something like "Added xdg-open Lintian overrides for kdeconnect-kde"14:00
QuintasanMakes it more obvious.14:01
smartboyhwQuintasan, don't tell me to re-upload again to another PPA, I have no strength--.-14:01
QuintasanJust put it up somewhere where I can download it, just fix those things, do debuild -S and send me the files14:02
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BluesKaj'Morning folks14:04
Quintasanuh14:04
QuintasanRiddell: GPL-2+-KDE any ideas what is that or if it's acceptable?14:05
smartboyhwQuintasan, it's just the KDE e.V new version of the GPL14:05
RiddellQuintasan: it's acceptable, it's gpl2 or 3 or approved by e.v.14:05
smartboyhwi.e community.kde.org/Licensing_Policy (find it yourself, link might be wrong14:05
QuintasanThe question is whether dep5 understands that14:05
Quintasanbut matters not it seems14:05
RiddellQuintasan: yeah you can put anything in that field14:05
smartboyhwQuintasan, even GPL-2+-openssl is acceptable14:06
Riddelleven with spaces is acceptable14:06
Quintasansmartboyhw: Fixed those? I'm pretty much sure it's good to go14:06
smartboyhwhttps://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-4/+files/kdeconnect-kde_0.1-0ubuntu1.dsc Quintasan 14:06
smartboyhwQuintasan, ^14:06
* Quintasan testbuilds14:07
smartboyhwI have tested it multiple times in a pbuilder so the build-deps should all be correct14:09
smartboyhwapachelogger, JontheEchidna ScottK I am taking that you're not going to vote in Doodle right? I'm picking the time soon.14:11
Riddellbah I can't work out this pykde issue, it compiled fine in older versions and hasn't changed14:11
QuintasanGood.14:11
QuintasanUploading14:11
QuintasanRiddell: NEW it please14:11
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* smartboyhw thinks it's something in GCC or Qt ARM -.-14:12
Riddellsmartboyhw: or a newer SIP being more fussy14:12
smartboyhwRiddell, :(14:13
RiddellI'm tempted to see what happens if I just miss out that method14:13
Riddell"Seamless integration with all your devices"  all?  not just android?14:14
smartboyhwRiddell, technically, the target is14:14
smartboyhwThey want to make it work everywhere. Now, it's still Android.14:15
smartboyhwBut, they want others to help:p14:15
Riddellstill all is optimistic, will it work with my kettle?14:15
Riddellmissing COPYING licence file, tsk14:16
smartboyhwRiddell, come on, the project's a bit fresh in KDE Playground. And what Kettle?14:16
Riddellalso no translations14:16
smartboyhwRiddell, stop moaning;P14:17
Riddellsmartboyhw: no excuse, they should have put it in there, not a problem for New and I can just put it in upstream git14:17
Riddellsmartboyhw: New review is full time moaning14:17
smartboyhwRiddell, I know14:17
Riddellif you're not moaning you're not doing it properly14:17
smartboyhwBut, well, they are a startup14:17
smartboyhwWe can do such things later:)14:18
Riddellsmartboyhw: accepted!14:19
smartboyhwRiddell, many thanks;)14:20
Riddellsmartboyhw: do poke me when it's in binary new for more moaning14:20
smartboyhwRiddell, LOL14:20
smartboyhwYeah!14:20
smartboyhw(Let's moan!)14:20
lordievaderRiddel: I think I fixed the jockey, the second part of the fix isn't pretty but it works :D14:22
Riddellsmartboyhw: can you upload http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/pykde4_4.11.1-0ubuntu3~ppa2.dsc14:23
Riddellhttp://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/pykde4_4.11.1-0ubuntu3~ppa2_source.changes14:23
Riddelllordievader: yo da man14:23
smartboyhwRiddell, sure14:23
Riddelllordievader: need me to take a look?14:23
Riddellsmartboyhw: this is a workaround rather than a fix for the pykde issue :(14:23
Riddellbut job for upstream I think14:23
smartboyhwRiddell, sure14:24
lordievaderRiddell: Would be a good idea, but how?14:25
smartboyhwRiddell, uploaded14:25
smartboyhwRiddell, amd64 in binary NEW14:26
Riddelllordievader: it'll be in bzr if you want to do it properly or you can send me patches14:26
smartboyhwPlease moan14:26
Riddellsmartboyhw: nah I'll wait for them all to arrive14:26
smartboyhwRiddell, sure14:26
Riddellno point in moaning 4 times14:26
Riddellhmm, ninjas PPA is arm isn't it?14:27
smartboyhwGua!/14:27
smartboyhw!/14:27
smartboyhw!?14:27
lordievaderRiddell: Never done anything with bzr (except download sources), could you guide me?14:28
Riddelllordievader: let me see14:28
lordievaderRiddell: I have downloaded the sources of jockey with bzr.14:28
Riddelllordievader: bzr branch lp:jockey   ?14:29
yofelRiddell: ninjas isn't, ~kubuntu-active/ppa is AFAIR14:29
Riddellyofel: ah hah14:30
lordievaderRiddell: I used this one: bzr branch lp:ubuntu/jockey14:31
Riddelllordievader: that's the jockey package, you want upstream jockey which is   bzr branch lp:jockey14:31
lordievaderRiddell: Ah ok.14:31
lordievaderDownloading now.14:32
Riddelllordievader: but the two might be out of sync so check first they're not14:32
smartboyhwRiddell, start moaning14:32
Riddelloh it wasn't like this when I was a lad14:33
RiddellI don't know what's happened to the youth today14:33
smartboyhwRiddell, what?14:33
smartboyhwYou told me to remind you to moan-.-14:33
Riddelloh you mean New review not generaly moaning :)14:33
lordievaderRiddell: How do I do that?14:33
smartboyhwRiddell, of course it's NEW review-.-14:33
Riddelllordievader: check if bzr log in the upstream shows any changes made in debian/changelog of the package14:33
lordievaderRiddell: If I try to run the "bzr branch lp:jockey" where I ran "bzr branch lp:ubuntu/jockey" I get an error: bzr: ERROR: Already a branch: "jockey".14:36
smartboyhwlordievader, do it in another directory14:36
lordievaderThat is what I did after I got that error, but wasn't sure if that was the right thing to do XD14:37
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lordievaderWait, the upstream one is completely different than the Ubuntu/jockey one or than the one installed on my system.14:39
lordievaderWell the oslib.py file anyways.14:39
lordievaderHehe the upstream doesn't have a debian folder.14:44
yofelthat's how it should be, only the packages should have the packaging14:45
lordievaderRight, right. Well I'm at a loss on what to do now.14:49
Riddelllordievader: hi, where did you get to?14:55
lordievaderRiddell: Well the oslib.py file, the origin of the errors, is completely different in lp:jockey compared to lp:ubuntu/jockey. 14:57
Riddelllordievader: yep I agree, looks like the devs have stopped bothering with it being an "upstream"15:00
Riddelllordievader: so just send me the patch to the package version15:00
lordievaderRiddell: You mean the corrected oslib.py file?15:01
Riddelllordievader: yeah15:02
Riddelllordievader: what is this team all about? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-power-users15:03
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smartboyhwNice number in Chinese, bad number for Westerners;P15:04
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.1 saucy/archive raring+precise/backports | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/commercial-support | 13.10 Beta 1 released | Time for dev meeting: 13th Sep 13:00 UTC
lordievaderRiddell: Here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6088357/15:05
smartboyhwRiddell, hmm, the team is set up by benonsoftware 15:05
Riddellkdeconnect-kde accepted!15:05
smartboyhwThe legendary Ubuntu Member who gained Ubuntu Membership at 1215:05
smartboyhwRiddell, no moaning!?15:05
lordievaderRiddell: Lines 27, 29, 784-805 are changed15:06
Riddellsmartboyhw: that deserves a blog, you want to blog it?15:06
Riddellsmartboyhw: it was perfectly packaged by someone15:06
smartboyhwRiddell, you can blog it, we want screenshots, and I can't do any here;P15:06
lordievaderI think I joined because I saw that smartboyhw was a member. I like the term power-user ;)15:07
smartboyhwlordievader, huh!?15:07
lordievaderRiddell: ^15:08
Riddell:)15:08
lordievadersmartboyhw: The Kubuntu-Power-Users team ;)15:08
smartboyhwlordievader, no, the part about I joined then you saw me join so you join-.-15:08
lordievadersmartboyhw: Haha my English ain't perfect.15:10
smartboyhwlordievader, not about your English, but on why you have to follow me15:10
smartboyhwRiddell, Quintasan DAMN IT15:11
* Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/09/10/kde-connect-kubuntu15:11
smartboyhwI think the changelog has a error: It uses Debian's Closes: Instead of Ubuntu's LP: -.-15:11
Riddellsmartboyhw: what?15:11
smartboyhwRiddell, see above15:11
Riddellhah, crisis!15:11
Riddellno wait, just close it manually15:11
smartboyhwRiddell, of course, but why on Earth did we not catch that:(15:12
smartboyhwMy epic fault15:12
Riddells/epic/tiny/15:12
kubotuRiddell: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"15:12
OdurHmm... Must try kde-connect :) 15:14
smartboyhwOdur, yep15:14
smartboyhwBTW, who requested about that on #kubuntu, let me check15:14
lordievaderRiddell: So how is the jockey patch?15:15
smartboyhwAh, petete15:16
smartboyhwRiddell, and BTW, you shouldn15:18
smartboyhw't use that screenshot15:18
smartboyhwNow everyone knows I can't do high-quality packaging-.-15:18
Riddelllordievader: sorry where is it?15:20
lordievaderRiddel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6088357/15:21
lordievaderRiddel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6088357/ Lines 27, 29, 784-805 are changed15:21
Riddelllordievader: could you use paste.kde.org ? paste.ubuntu needs me to log in for some unknown reason15:21
RiddellI got it now15:22
smartboyhwRiddell, log in!?15:22
Riddelllordievader: is this your diff? http://paste.kde.org/pebb167eb/15:23
Riddellsmartboyhw: yeah for plain download15:23
lordievaderRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/pc259cb28/15:23
smartboyhwRiddell, OK...15:23
lordievaderRiddell: Yes, that looks about right.15:24
Riddelllordievader: could you explain the differences in the for package in cache: block?15:25
lordievaderRiddell: The bit with "pkg = cache[package.name]"15:26
lordievader?15:26
Riddelllordievader: yeah15:26
Riddelllordievader: only change is line 38/39 of http://paste.kde.org/pebb167eb/ ??15:27
lordievaderThe call package.architecture() is no longer there, so I needed a work around. No it should have an extra tab.15:28
lordievaderI'm still quite the amateur when it comes to programming. Anyhow I added an extra if statement because I came across a package where pkg.candidate == None.15:30
RiddellSorry: IndentationError: unindent does not match any outer indentation level (oslib.py, line 788)15:33
Riddelluh oh!15:33
lordievaderThat is not supposed to happen.15:33
RiddellI'll fix it15:36
Riddellsmartboyhw: pykde4 looking good :)15:36
smartboyhwRiddell, \o/15:36
lordievaderOh I think the try/exept part needs to move one tab back.15:37
Riddelllordievader: fixed, uploading!15:37
lordievaderRiddell: Whoo, did you test it though?15:38
Riddelllordievader: well it runs good for me15:38
Riddelldunno if that's the test path in question, I don't have any proprietary software needed15:38
lordievaderNice, whoo. Exited, first patch :D15:38
Riddellthe code path in question15:38
lordievaderRiddell: I have the same problem.15:38
lordievaderIt could very well be that other things in jockey are broken due to the new version of python-apt.15:39
Riddell!testers | http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/install-css.sh15:40
Riddellplease test http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/install-css.sh15:40
smartboyhwRiddell, usable in Saucy?15:40
lordievaderWhat does css stand for in this case?15:41
Riddellsmartboyhw: yep15:41
smartboyhwlordievader, libdvdcss15:41
Riddelllordievader: content scrambling system, dvd encryption15:41
smartboyhwRiddell, it works here15:41
Riddellsmartboyhw: amd64?15:41
smartboyhwRiddell, yes15:41
lordievaderscript runs fine here too (amd64)15:42
Riddellcoiuld do with a test on i38615:42
smartboyhwRiddell, let me log in to the pbuilder:P15:43
fosyofel: Thanks for fixing the KDM Upstart script!15:44
smartboyhwRiddell, works in a i386 pbuilder15:45
Riddellsmartboyhw: awooga15:45
Riddellfos, yofel: cool what was needed?15:45
fosHe reverted the script to the old version from precise ;-)15:46
fosbtw, the bug would have been bug 121989415:46
ubottubug 1219894 in Kubuntu PPA "KDE 4.11 / precise: Upstart script prevents KDM start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121989415:46
smartboyhwRiddell, hmm, it failed still16:04
smartboyhwsip: Nepomuk::Variant unsupported ctor argument type - provide %MethodCode and a C++ signature16:04
smartboyhwsip stuff16:04
smartboyhwGood night people.16:18
yofelfos: I'll trust you that this really fixes the issue, I've seen kdm failing randomly for quite a while in my precise VM now but I never had a reliable way to reproduce it16:24
yofeldoes someone know if we have something like 'rmadison-ppa' somewhere?16:25
fos yofel: At least it fixes the problem for all machines we have in our development environment. It hasn't officially been tested by our testing team though...16:28
yofelwell, as I simply copied the file from 4.8 in it at least shouldn't break anything else16:29
jmuxyofel: the real bug is probably in plymouth. For whatever reason "plymouth --wait" is never returning. So I guess "plymuoth --stop" doesn't actually stop plymouth.16:30
shadeslayerRiddell: thoughts on getting http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=37321 into Kubuntu/Debian17:45
shadeslayerRiddell: Unfortunately it doesn't have a proper build system17:46
shadeslayerand I am unsure what value it brings , but our friends in Bilbao want that packaged in the archive17:46
Tm_Thi, about KDE Connect, are there packages yet for raring?18:45
Tm_Tapparently not18:47
shadeslayerTm_T: you could just run backportpackage and upload them to your ppa19:25
Tm_Tshadeslayer: ah, let's see...19:27
Tm_Tshadeslayer: have to admit that you need to lend a guiding hand for that (:19:28
Tm_Taaah, I think I might get it now19:29
shadeslayerTm_T: man backportpackage19:34
shadeslayerhas everything19:34
shadeslayeryou also want to make your PPA depend on the backports PPA if you have that enabled on raring19:34
Tm_Tshadeslayer: how's that done?19:35
shadeslayergo to your ppa, there should be a "edit ppa dependencies" link19:35
shadeslayertop right I think19:35
Tm_Taah, gotcha19:36
Tm_Tshadeslayer: thanks19:37
shadeslayernp19:37
Tm_Thah, now this good old gpg issue I hit with these, reminds me why I gave up last time19:40
shadeslayeraw :(19:40
shadeslayerwhat happened?19:40
* shadeslayer has another 20 minutes before leaving19:40
Tm_T"secret key not available"19:40
Tm_TI tend to lose interest with gpg rather quickly, partly due to all the crashes I get with Kleopatra19:41
shadeslayerwell19:41
Tm_Twhat I'm doing wrong is documented well I'm sure, so I'll hit the sources with this19:42
Tm_Tshadeslayer: thanks for your help19:42
shadeslayerTm_T: you need to make sure the email address + name in DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME are the same as the one in your private key19:42
Tm_Tyup19:42
shadeslayerTm_T: an easy way to build debs would be to run dpkg-buildpackage :P19:42
shadeslayerpull-lp-source source_name19:43
shadeslayercd source_name-ver19:43
shadeslayerdpkg-buildpackage19:43
Tm_TI don't want the easy way anymore now that I did setup ppa (:19:43
Tm_Ttime to learn this thing19:43
shadeslayerhahaa19:43
shadeslayerokay19:43
shadeslayerTm_T: you should probably also run setup-packaging-environment19:43
shadeslayerthen fill out the details it asks19:44
Tm_Tshadeslayer: neat, thanks19:44
Tm_Twhen I was younger, all these tools weren't available, things getting easy which is nice19:45
shadeslayeryep :)19:45
shadeslayerand you might need pkg-kde-tools installed as well 19:45
Tm_Tshadeslayer: that I should have already19:49
shadeslayerokie dokie19:49
shadeslayerjust 26 hours to having first world internet \o/19:49
shadeslayerand other first world things19:49
Tm_TI wonder if I can make this spit out more information of that gpg error19:51
shadeslayerpastebin the error?19:53
shadeslayerTm_T: checking debian/changelog for the latest entry also helps19:54
shadeslayermake sure the email addy + name is the same as the one in your key19:55
shadeslayergtg19:55
Tm_Tshadeslayer: ah, it was the name19:56
Tm_Tthanks, it seems to roll nicely now19:56
shadeslayerTm_T: awesome20:01
Tm_Tshadeslayer: I'm heading to sleep, thanks again (:20:16

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