[00:35] <darkxst> jbicha, input switching is not working properly under gnome-shell
[00:37] <darkxst> can only switch between first two layouts
[00:42] <darkxst> and this seems like it would be bad! (gnome-settings-daemon:2106): AccountsService-CRITICAL **: act_user_set_input_sources: assertion 'g_variant_is_of_type (sources, G_VARIANT_TYPE ("aa{ss}"))' failed
[01:14] <jbicha> yes I have the same problem
[01:15] <jbicha> it worked one time but after logging out and logging back in, it's broken again
[01:29] <darkxst> jbicha, its the same in 3.9, I suppose we didnt see it before because we had revert-input-source-changes.patch
[01:37] <jbicha> darkxst: they uploaded your old nm-applet patch
[01:42] <jbicha> darkxst: should I just drop the idle-dim-time override or it has been replaced by something else?
[01:58] <darkxst> jbicha, its now org.gnome.desktop.session.idle-delay, however just drop it, 30 secs seem like it would be incredibly annoying!
[02:18] <darkxst> and it would seem that it hasnt even worked for some time
[02:34] <darkxst> jbicha, I think we can remove network-manager-gnome from the seed
[02:39] <jbicha> ok
[02:40] <jbicha> having dmz-cursor-theme installed allows someone to easily pick the white cursor in gnome-tweak-tool, I'm not sure how important that is
[02:40] <jbicha> but I'll go with whatever you decide
[02:55] <darkxst> I suppose that is a good point
[13:24] <test_> hello
[13:25] <test_> can i use gnomefallback under ubuntu-gnome?
[13:26] <test_> -.-
[16:47] <wingnux> Hey guys! I can`t seem to be able to install the beta1
[16:47] <wingnux> Whenever I click "Install Ubuntu Gnome 13.10", nothing happens
[16:47] <wingnux> any help?
[17:52] <theenduser> o/
[17:53] <theenduser> latest upgrade pulls in lots of KDE libraries, is that normal?
[17:53] <bjsnider> which ones?
[17:54] <theenduser> like nepomuk and... lemme see...
[17:55] <theenduser> kate, kde-runtime
[17:55] <theenduser> lots more
[17:55] <theenduser> kdelibs, oxygen-icons
[17:55] <theenduser> :/
[18:00] <theenduser> this is SS btw
[18:04] <theenduser> sorry these are already installed
[18:04] <theenduser> something must have pulled them in and I forgot about it
[18:07] <jbicha> theenduser: can you copy your /var/log/apt/history.log to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and post the link here?
[18:07] <jbicha> or never mind
[18:08] <bjsnider> theenduser, try purging kdelibs and see what happens
[18:08] <bjsnider> might tell you what pulled it in
[18:17] <theenduser> thnx guys, I tried purging kdelibs but this is all I see: http://pastebin.com/Eg7dEAWY
[18:17] <theenduser> nothing out of the ordinary, right? can't remember installing sth KDE either :S
[18:22] <jbicha> having ubiquity-frontend-kde installed is unusual
[18:22] <theenduser> oh I see
[19:42] <ikbenben> hi everyone...newish to irc and irc practices. hope i don't abuse
[19:43] <ikbenben> i'm having an issue using gnome 3 on ubuntu after doing an apt-get update last night
[19:43] <ikbenben> when i logged in this morning to my machine i only got a black screen with a cursor
[19:43] <ikbenben> i was able to switch to unity but really want to use gnome3
[19:43] <ikbenben> i tried to run sudo apt-get install -f gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[19:43] <ikbenben> but get a unmet dependency and i'm not sure the best way to fix it
[19:44] <ikbenben> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[19:44] <ikbenben>  gnome-shell : Depends: gnome-settings-daemon (>= 3.8.0) but 3.6.4-0ubuntu8 is to be installed
[19:44] <ikbenben> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:44] <ikbenben> any thoughts?
[19:49] <bjsnider> the stable ppa doesn't have this issu. which ppas do you have?
[19:49] <bjsnider> where did that gnome-shell package come from?
[19:49] <ikbenben> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[19:50] <ikbenben> when i logged into unity i had a window pop up about a partial upgrade required and so i ran it
[19:50] <ikbenben> but that was after getting the black screen after logging in
[19:51] <bjsnider> is this raring or saucy?
[19:51] <ikbenben> 13.04
[19:51] <ikbenben> so raring
[19:51] <bjsnider> 1ubuntu5?
[19:51] <ikbenben> not sure what you mean by that :(
[19:51] <bjsnider> and also ~raring3
[19:54] <ikbenben> gnome-shell-common 3.9.91+git20130905.2980515c-0ubuntu1~13.04~ricotz0
[19:55] <bjsnider> no, should be 3.8.3-1ubuntu5~raring3
[19:56] <bjsnider> where the hell did you get that?
[19:56] <bjsnider> that's not even in staging
[19:56] <ikbenben> lol..no idea :)
[19:56] <bjsnider> do you have any other ppas installed?
[19:57] <ikbenben> for gnome..don't think so..one sec and i'll see
[19:57] <jbicha> https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/testing/+packages?field.series_filter=raring
[19:59] <bjsnider> if you don't have rictoz's testing ppa installed you probably need to add it and then purge it
[19:59] <bjsnider> ppa-purge it i mean
[19:59] <bjsnider> unless you went out and manually downloaded that package, which is possible but unlikely
[19:59] <ikbenben> i see a ppa from ricotz
[20:00] <bjsnider> testing?
[20:00] <bjsnider> anyway, i think you should use ppa-purge on it
[20:00] <ikbenben> yes..ppa.launchpad.net/ricotz/testing/ubuntu
[20:00] <bjsnider> unless you like the idea of using a vt the whole time
[20:00] <ikbenben> nope..this is my work machine..i want it stable
[20:01] <bjsnider> you want it stable so you're using a ppa called "testing"
[20:01] <ikbenben> honestly, i don't recall adding that ppa
[20:02] <ikbenben> but i do see an add repository for it in my history
[20:02] <ikbenben> so i must have
[20:02] <bjsnider> it didn't add itself, that i'm sure of
[20:02] <ikbenben> agreed
[20:03] <ikbenben> so is the gnome3 ppa running gnome 3.8?
[20:03] <ikbenben> ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3/ubuntu
[20:03] <bjsnider> yes, but not that version of gsd
[20:04] <jbicha> the ricotz testing ppa assumes you are also using the gnome3-staging ppa
[20:04] <ikbenben> ah..i know why i added ricotz...i wanted gnome-tweak-tool
[20:04] <bjsnider> you already had it
[20:04] <bjsnider> it's in the distro, you don't need a ppa
[20:04] <ikbenben> k
[20:05] <ikbenben> i couldn't find it at the time
[20:05] <ikbenben> anyways...so recommendation...
[20:05] <ikbenben> purge the ricotz ppa
[20:05] <bjsnider> you must have been led astray by misinformation
[20:05] <ikbenben> yes
[20:06] <ikbenben> after purging ppa...then what? simply re-install gnome with sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[20:06] <ikbenben> ?
[20:06] <bjsnider> it should just downgrade your gnome packages to the nearest version, which is the correct ppa
[20:06] <bjsnider> so that is theoretically all you need to do
[20:08] <ikbenben> so i ran sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:ricotz/testing
[20:08] <ikbenben> then did an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[20:08] <ikbenben> didn't seem to do anything really
[20:09] <ikbenben> so i tried to apt-get install gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[20:09] <ikbenben> and getting different dependencies now
[20:09] <ikbenben> gnome-shell : Depends: libgjs0c (>= 1.36.1-1+js17) but it is not going to be installed
[20:09] <ikbenben>                Depends: libmutter0b (>= 3.8) but it is not going to be installed
[20:09] <ikbenben>                Depends: libmutter0b (< 3.9) but it is not going to be installed
[20:09] <ikbenben>                Depends: gnome-shell-common (= 3.8.3-1ubuntu5~raring3) but 3.9.91+git20130905.2980515c-0ubuntu1~13.04~ricotz0 is to be installed
[20:09] <bjsnider> no, ppa-purge
[20:10] <ikbenben> do i need to install that?
[20:10] <bjsnider> now you have to add that ppa again
[20:10] <ikbenben> k..ppa-purge wasn't isntalled
[20:11] <ikbenben> i'm installing now
[20:11] <ikbenben> and i've added the repostiory back
[20:13] <ikbenben> this is now doing a lot...
[20:17] <ikbenben> k...i think i got it...i had to remove the gnome-tweak-tool as well with a apt-get remove...it was still trying to install gnome-common from ricotz
[20:17] <ikbenben> but after removing i then did an install -f gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop and it installed without error
[20:17] <ikbenben> i'm going to log out and try to log in with gnome3
[20:17] <ikbenben> thank you for your help
[20:17] <ikbenben> hoepfully you won't hear from me again ;)
[20:20] <ikbenben> @bjsnider @jbicha thank you..i'm now chatting to you fromgnome 3