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DJonesMorning07:25
dwatkinsallo07:27
dwatkinsI just discovered http://www.datasheetarchive.com/ - I can see this is going to be extremely useful07:27
MartijnVdS*bookmark*07:31
dwatkinsI never expected a promoted link on Twitter to actually be useful.07:47
popeyhttp://www.jmedved.com/usbamps/ want07:54
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:19
JamesTaitGood morning all, happy Swap Ideas Day! :-D08:21
brobostigongood morning everyone.08:26
MrFukinMooMorning andy , how are you doing , im up in glasgow and can do the night train service for weekly based commuting , what kind of coding are you after ?08:30
DJonesI wonder whether that was the wrong channel08:35
AlanBellin response to andylockran yesterday I think08:36
DJonesAh08:37
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bigcalmAlanBell: thanks for the card :)09:25
* bigcalm tickles popey09:26
* popey tickles bigcalm 09:28
MartijnVdShttp://www.tikkels.nl/smaken.html ?09:32
blazemoreIs this a social channel?09:57
DGJonesFairly social :)09:58
DGJonesMost things get talked about/discussed as long as they're not too far away from reasonable discussion09:59
brobostigonand reasonable discussion includes talking about beer and curry, :)10:00
Laneywe are a social channel for social people10:00
DGJonesJust don't mention the war10:01
DGJonesHave to say that IRC has been quiet this morning10:03
directhexwe'll have no trouble here10:03
SuperMatttwelvty!10:06
dwatkinsone!!!!11111!!!10:25
MartijnVdS!!1eleventyone!!!110:25
bigcalmOne-one was a horse. One-two was one too. One-one won one race. One-two won one too10:26
DGJonesI'd forgotten today was the #ubuntu-uk bingo game10:27
MartijnVdSOoh, a new Computerphile video!11:00
mgdmI don't know what that is, but I don't think I'm going to watch any video today that isn't the new Arcade Fire track11:00
MartijnVdSmgdm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sskbSvha9M11:01
mgdmI think it's on for the 3rd time this morning11:01
mungbeanremember that floating wizard thig from teh dungeons and dragons cartoon? i just aciidentally made his hat out of blue tac without noticing11:41
mungbeanor was it another cartoon? some floating black wizard hat?11:43
ali1234he-man11:45
ali1234http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/He-Man-Masters-of-the-Universe-he-man-604198_393_616.jpg11:45
mungbean orko11:46
mungbeanthats him \p/11:46
ali1234i don't believe this is a coincidence either http://www.ffcompendium.com/misc/9-orkoandvivi-o.jpg11:49
mungbeanhmm11:51
popeyanyone want a tizen dev phone? https://developer.tizen.org/support/development-unit-program/available-development-units11:57
popey"These are not phones, and cannot connect to a GSM network."11:57
MartijnVdSSo.. 3G only? :P11:58
directhextizen on phones is a waste of your time.12:00
popeyOh dear. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-2402890212:00
mungbeanany closer pics of the letterbox?12:01
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mungbeani mean "letterbox"12:01
popeyunsurprising self-promotion from Geller12:03
popeymy nephew lives in Sonning. I should get him to take a better pic.12:03
popeyhttp://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local-news/post-box-prank-mystifies-villagers-587449712:04
mungbeanwikipedia says uri geller is a magician12:04
mungbeanso he's admitted he was a fraud in the 80s then?12:05
mungbean" URI GELLER has lifted the lid on his secret past as a SPY - and told how his spoon-bending antics were just a cover."12:05
mungbeanso say the sun12:05
popeyhe calls himself a mystifier12:06
mungbeanthats one way to distance yourself from fraud.."it was a cover up for spying"12:06
ali1234uh...not really12:06
mungbeanah he claims he was in psychic ops12:07
directhexit;s not fraud unless you claim to talk to the dead12:07
MartijnVdSpsycho ops12:07
mungbeanFor years Geller was apparently part of the CIA’s psychic opps programme whose brief was to organise mind-reading against the enemy. The programme was closed in 1995, but Geller will confirm that after 9/11 he got a call. “The only thing I can tell you is that I was reactivated.” And that he happened to be with Michael Jackson the day before.12:07
directhexin which case there's a law requiring you to only talk to the dead legitimately12:08
directhexThe Fraudulent Mediums Act 195112:08
mungbeanhe's made many fraudulent claims12:09
ali1234nobody really believes it though12:09
ali1234so who cares?12:09
mungbeanyeah, TV loved him in the 80s12:09
directhexali1234, this country is filled with morons. "psychics" of all stripes are a multi-million pound industry12:09
directhexmungbean, his career was destroyed overnight by james randi, thankfully12:09
ali1234not my problem if stupid people want to waste their money12:10
directhexhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9w7jHYriFo12:10
ali1234actually if the vast majority of the world didn't regularly flush all their money down the toilet civilization would probably collapse12:10
awilkins I see mediums advertised in pubs around here all the time12:10
awilkinsIt's sad, this area is a hotbed of evangelical Christianity and other mental diseases12:10
directhexali1234, it's explicitly evil. see also south park 6x15, "The Biggest Douche in the Universe"12:11
popeyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdTqpscvaw4&feature=related also12:11
ali1234perhaps, but on the galactic scale of objective evil, it's pretty low12:11
awilkinsDid you see the news story about the Karate Black Belt Teen Exorcists today?12:11
mungbeani was telling my wife, if more people were like me, most shops would cease trading overnight12:12
awilkinsVideo of them doing their Ukranian tour. Guess being poor makes you more vulnerable to memetic diseases12:12
mungbean"It's to advertise the Mikron Theatre production of Don't Shoot the messenger at Sonning Lock.12:15
mungbeanpopey: ^^12:16
popeythere we go12:16
mungbeanbbc journo didn't do their homework12:17
popeywell12:17
popeyscroll down ☻12:17
popey"Not true we have asked The Mill.12:17
mungbeanthey asked a dolly bird on reception12:17
popeylets just pipe that forum here yes? ☻12:17
popeyʘ‿ಠ12:17
ali1234http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/sep/09/nsa-sabotage-dead-mans-switch12:21
ali1234rsync.net weren't the first to do this12:21
ali1234pepperfish.net was doing it back in 200312:22
* bigcalm tickles a rackspace cloud server12:37
bigcalmWonder if they are having routing problems today12:37
SuperMattoh, did you just notice something?12:38
SuperMattI got a couple of timeouts on a couple of services I run on there12:38
bigcalmSuperMatt: getting huge packet loss within their network12:39
SuperMattaha!12:42
SuperMattoh, I'm seeing 0 packet loss from one location, but quite a bit from another12:43
SuperMattmy mtr shows me this rackspace-gw.ip4.tinet.net is where it starts losing packets12:44
ali1234can ssh tunnel dbus?12:45
ali1234like ssh -X, but for dbus?12:45
mungbeansounds like hackery12:47
ali1234i would like to be able to run notify-send on the remote machine and see the notification on the local machine12:47
mungbeanhttps://github.com/guyzmo/notossh12:48
mungbeanfor irssi?12:48
ali1234no, i don't use that12:48
ali1234just for notifying me when some long job finishes on a server12:48
mungbeanprobably apply the same method to that though12:49
ali1234yeah12:49
SuperMattbigcalm: it looks like there's still packet loss in rackspace, but it's not so high that my nagios is complaining any more12:57
SuperMattcould be that whatever the issue is, is getting sorted12:57
bigcalmGood to know12:57
SuperMattit's still hovering around the 23% mark though, which is less than ideal12:59
bigcalmSluggish terminals are a load of fun12:59
SuperMattno they're not12:59
SuperMattalthough ssh is a great protocol13:00
SuperMattit's useful that it can survive quite a lot of packet loss13:00
SuperMattat least it gives you a *chance* to fix something remotely13:00
mungbeanmy sun servers are shagged :(13:04
mungbeaneven ILOM is misbehaving13:04
SuperMattILOM?13:04
mungbeanlike DRAC13:04
* SuperMatt stares blankly at mungbean 13:05
* SuperMatt blinks13:05
mungbeanwhat servers do u use13:05
SuperMattwe simply have a few vms scattered around the country13:05
mungbeanlights out management/out of band management interface13:05
mungbeanfor accessing a serial console on the box13:06
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mungbeanor performing power on/off indepently of server13:06
SuperMattI see13:07
MartijnVdSThey've discovered a new species of rabbit: http://i.imgur.com/KX7XAxW.jpg13:11
mungbeanlovely13:11
mungbeancan look at that all day13:12
mungbeanwhy do people have audible email notifications in office environment?14:08
jpdsmungbean: Because they don't have libnotify.14:10
mungbean:(14:11
mungbeanconstant ding dong swoosh and etc14:11
dwatkinsI have a colleauge who has his IM "bing" on all the time, so every time I message him, I get a bing14:11
dwatkins...and then there's the humming14:11
mgdmsend him messages timed so it spells 'eejit' in morse, or some such14:11
brobostigonmine phone has a cookoo noise for incoming emails in k9, very amusing.14:11
brobostigonmy*14:11
dwatkinsmgdm: sadly I think the joke would be lost on him14:11
dwatkinshe doesn't even realise when he's humming14:12
mgdmbrobostigon: surely a woof would make more sense for K9? :P14:12
mgdmthis is why I have big headphones14:12
* mgdm sticks on that new Arcade Fire track *again*14:13
dwatkinsmgdm: likewise, Sennheiser HD 210s make life bearable14:13
brobostigonmgdm: certainly, or a dr who k9 extract.14:13
dwatkinsmy alarm clock is R2D214:15
mgdmdwatkins: I forget precisely what these are, but they're a Scottish company, and they're comfy enough...14:15
jpdsmungbean: You could imitate the sounds so thta it completely confuses them.14:15
mgdmI keep meaning to SSH into someone else's Mac here and abuse the 'say' command14:16
mungbeannobody needs aural stimuli for emails14:16
popeywhat if you're alt-tabbed into sommat else?14:17
ali1234i've got one of these: http://www.nandahome.com/products/tocky/14:20
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ali1234and i loaded the audio from this video in it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv6RbEOlqRo14:21
mgdmthat's horrific14:22
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mungbeanwow http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhysdaviesphotography/4443501034/sizes/l/in/set-72157626849039396/15:15
mungbeangreat shot of beachy head15:16
dwatkinsyeah, very nice15:19
DJonesUgh, Windows Live Mail is an appalling email client15:22
SuperEngineerDJones: I assume that's copied from an advert for Windows ;)15:24
DJonesNope, thats from 4 hours of having to use the pile of &%*$£^%15:25
mungbeangoing to wildlife park tomorrow \o/15:25
bigcalmWhom here is a nginx fan?15:27
mgdmI'm a fan of it15:27
bigcalmOld nginx server had two fqdn on SSL on the same server and IP just fine15:28
mgdmnot used it for much complicated, though15:28
bigcalmNew nginx server isn't playing ball15:28
bigcalmduplicate default server for 0.0.0.0:44315:28
bigcalmIgnore me15:29
bigcalmI copied a available-sites config but didn't remove default_server from the 2nd conf15:30
bigcalmmgdm: ta for being ready15:30
jussiAlanBell: you about=15:47
jussi?15:47
AlanBellmight be :)15:50
AlanBellwhassup jussi?15:50
Monotokowasps suck16:18
funkyHatDo wasps actually contribute usefully to any ecosystem?16:18
MonotokoI don't think so, one landed on the back of my neck, I wasn't aware of what it was so put my hand up to get rid of it16:19
Monotokostung my neck and my hand :(16:19
ali1234did anyone see that news story the other day about "drunk, unemployed" wasps16:22
SuperEngineerbzzzzzzzzzz16:24
ali1234it was on the front page of the telegraph of course16:24
SuperEngineerfunkyHat: actually, yes - they do [surprisingly]16:25
SuperEngineeror as one wasp said to the other... Do humans actually contribute usefully to any ecosystem?16:26
funkyHatSuperEngineer: what is it? Wikipedia has a deceptively titled "Role in ecosystem" section which doesn't really explain much at all16:27
funkyHatSuperEngineer: we make pandas have babies when they don't want to so they won't become extinct... surely that counts for something?16:27
funkyHatOh! If we didn't have fig wasps then we wouldn't have figs. I've never tried a fig, but fig wasps sound ok.16:28
SuperEngineerfunkyHat: they eat debris, waste, bugs & harmful insects [& humans at pubs]16:28
ali1234pandas keep the bamboo under control16:29
SuperEngineerali1234: and make us all smile16:30
ali1234not me16:30
SuperEngineerboo hiss16:30
ali1234o_o16:30
* SuperEngineer sends virtual wasp to ali1234 16:31
popeyali1234 has a heart of stone16:42
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AlanBellminecraft question, do mods such as the lion king mod work on Ubuntu?18:32
diddledanAlanBell: afaik yes18:34
ali1234lion king mod?18:39
AlanBellapparently that is what all the cool kids are playing18:42
ali1234the mods are all patched java classes18:48
ali1234so they all can work potentially18:48
ali1234some of them have weird patching methods, but if oyu know what you're doing you can bypass that18:49
ali1234that mod looks pretty cool18:50
davmor2AlanBell: you know you're a geek right and not allowed in the cool kids group? ;)18:50
AlanBellyeah, I don't do games18:54
MartijnVdSArgh @ car stereos18:56
davmor2MartijnVdS: problem?18:59
MartijnVdSdavmor2: Had to use extreme force to get the old one out (the "keys" didn't do their job -- could only get the radio out 1cm)19:00
MartijnVdSdavmor2: and the new radio expects the red and yellow wires to be reversed (12V continuous vs 12V when ignition is on)19:01
MartijnVdSso I have to find some kind of converter block or something19:01
davmor2MartijnVdS: so pull the pins out of the current plug and then swap them around ;)19:02
MartijnVdSdavmor2: yes.. pull them out of the plug. How? :)19:02
davmor2MartijnVdS: have I got to tell you everything sheesh ;)19:03
MartijnVdSthe lead for my old radio had a plastic sleeve + connector in the middle19:03
MartijnVdSto rearrange the 12V lines19:04
davmor2MartijnVdS: :( sound like you are outta luck unless you cut the cable and solder it I guess19:06
MartijnVdSdavmor2: I'm going to check Halfords tomorrow, see if they have some kind of convertor/extension lead I can (ab)use19:08
davmor2MartijnVdS: you in the UK then dude?19:08
MartijnVdSdavmor2: no, but we have Halfords in .nl :)19:09
AlanBellMartijnVdS: in Halfords in .nl do they sell beam deflectors for driving in the UK?19:24
MartijnVdSAlanBell: they do19:25
popeyAlanBell: have you ever played CaH?19:29
AlanBellMartijnVdS: cool, I was wondering if they were even a think outside of the UK19:29
AlanBellpopey: nope19:30
blazemoreAny League of Legends ppl?19:59
andylockrannope20:00
directhexdota2 4 evah!20:00
ali1234do we have any sound editors that aren't audacity?20:06
ali1234ugh, launchpad is really messed up20:10
diddledanthat;'s windows 8.1 preview installed *ducks*20:10
ali1234http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-100913-211108.php20:12
mungbeanwow, new oz PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zyY-xI6zgfk20:27
diddledanhe looks very uncomfortable20:35
mungbeanodd guy20:35
mungbeanBlackberry20:35
mungbean9.3%20:35
mungbean1.7%20:35
mungbean0.1%20:35
mungbeanmarket share uk/us/china20:36
dutchiedirecthex: woo dota20:57
bigcalmWhat language are upstart scripts?21:27
bigcalmI'm guessing bash21:28
bigcalmBut likely wrong21:28
diddledanbigcalm: they're a unique format21:35
diddledanbigcalm: they're more config files than scripts21:36
bigcalmOkay, ta21:38
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