[00:59] * greyback__ waves goodnight, may not be online until later than usual tomorrow === duflu is now known as duflu|away === duflu|away is now known as duflu [07:30] Saviq: do you know the release jenkins didn't stop in a week? [07:33] sil2100: hi, good morning. [07:34] sil2100: do you know why we are still not releasing unity8? I think the issues in our code/dependencies should be resolved [07:41] mzanetti, it's running now http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Unity8/ [07:41] mzanetti, but the checks are failing http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Unity8/job/cu2d-unity8-head-2.2check/ [07:42] mzanetti, but it looks like a failure of the job [07:43] Saviq: hmm... I just found an issue... I may have approved a bad commit last week [07:44] mzanetti, regardless, the containers fail to start in the release jenkins [07:44] ok [07:44] mzanetti, and I've read about that issue somewhere in my emails yesterday [07:53] Saviq: ever used this? https://launchpad.net/bzr-bisect [07:59] mzanetti, yes, but it doesn't work for me [07:59] mzanetti, not in any useful way at least [08:00] Last Modified over a year ago :/ [08:00] the plugin itself seems to work fine still [08:00] the problem is that unity8 doesn't build when going back more than 5 revisions because it doesn't match unity-api any more [08:01] but found a good revision that still builds... now it should be useful :) [08:05] mzanetti: hi! [08:05] mzanetti: I will try to get it released today, we didn't release anything yesterday since we had some hardware/testing issues... [08:05] ah ok. thanks [08:06] Saviq: found the bad commit. can I just push a revert to trunk [08:06] ? [08:06] or want me to go the review path for that too? [08:07] mzanetti, file a MR and we'll fast-track it through [08:07] mzanetti: sadly, I don't see in my inbox any notice that it got fixed, but maybe it finally is... [08:07] Although I see the stacks are generally in a baaad state, with hunderets of FTBFS [08:08] can anyone tell me what FTBFS means? [08:08] mzanetti, Failure To Build From Source [08:08] * mzanetti knows FTB as Frontline Testing or Bluetooth [08:08] for [08:08] :D [08:11] Saviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/revert-r-304/+merge/184733 [08:12] dandrader: already up? [08:13] mzanetti, yes! :) [08:13] dandrader: dude... anyways, that merge is for you ^ [08:13] mzanetti, that revert thing? [08:13] yes [08:13] it reverts your last commit [08:13] ouch [08:14] if you know where the issue is, feel free to disapprove the revert and file a new one that fixes the crash [08:14] dandrader: but it crashes somewhere in LVWPH [08:14] so I figured we should get back to a working state and then try to fix it properly [08:15] mzanetti, you also have to reopen the related bug [08:15] once it gets merged [08:15] already merging [08:17] larsu: ping [08:19] dednick: good morning [08:19] Saviq, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1193419 really a critical bug. I'm thinking about lowering its importance [08:19] Launchpad bug 1193419 in Unity 8 "Running apps should always be visible when navigating to apps lens" [Critical,In progress] [08:20] larsu: howdy. any idea why qmenumodel hasn't done a daily release since the UnityMenuAction index change? [08:20] dandrader, well, it's a regression and breaks user experience :/ [08:20] larsu: i can't put through my messaging branch until that's done. [08:20] dandrader, and we've had it for too long already... [08:22] dednick: a lot of stuff is on manual publish for some reason. seb128 should know more :) [08:22] yeah, things are on manual landing [08:22] and the lxc containers are screwed due to a kernel bug [08:22] fun week... [08:23] seb128: sigh ... we really need qmenumodel to land [08:23] can somebody do that manually or do we have to wait? [08:23] sil2100, Mirv: ^ [08:23] larsu, I would prefer us to push on getting the landing unblocked that start landing components manually [08:24] I want system settings to land, indicator need landing as well, as does hud [08:25] seb128: I can understand. It's just that we want dednick's messging menu branch to land as early as possible to get some exposure before the release [08:25] seb128: do you know when this could be unblocked? [08:25] asac, ^ [08:25] asac, we need to get stuff to land again... [08:29] dandrader: I reopened this merge and commented how to reproduce the crash: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/runningApps_lp1193419/+merge/177630 [08:30] mzanetti: unity8 CI is again failing because of UNSTABLE tests... https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity8/lp1219057/+merge/184622 [08:30] * mzanetti checks [08:30] oh wait, commit message is missing as well [08:30] *was* missing [08:31] larsu: seems this was a temporary failure because something went wrong while testing on mako [08:32] larsu: which projects would you need to land? [08:32] mzanetti: can you restart it please? [08:33] larsu: sure... do you want permissions on jenkins to be able to restart jobs yourself too? [08:33] sil2100: we decided on waiting for everything to unblock, thanks [08:34] larsu: I just saw that you do have those permissions already [08:35] anyways, I restarted the job [08:36] mzanetti: ya I do, but I don't have my account data anymore :) (I almost never log in) [08:36] mzanetti: if you can reset my password, that would be nice ;) [08:36] larsu: ack [08:38] nic-doffay, hey, when running gallery.sh in https://code.launchpad.net/~nicolas-doffay/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/multi-selectors/+merge/184735, I get "examples/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery/MultiSelectors.qml: File not found" [08:39] Saviq, hey, wb! had good holidays? [08:39] seb128, thanks, yeah :) [08:39] seb128, could use another week to actually rest ;) [08:39] hehe [08:39] Saviq, that's when you know you had good holidays! [08:39] dandrader, indeed :) [08:40] Saviq, I know the feeling ;-) [08:41] Saviq, not sure if you did email catchup yet or are still working on it, we discussed the "gsetting key by form factor" but it ended up in "we are not sure that's a good idea/to have a valid usecase for it" ... so we need more input from somebody who has examples ;-) [08:41] seb128, yeah, still unread in my inbox [08:42] Saviq, no hurry, I was just mentioning it in case it got lost in the middle of the flood ;-) [08:42] seb128, it was actually surprisingly minor - INBOX was at some 75 emails! [08:42] obviously there was all the other folders, but still [08:42] yeah, that's decent enough [08:43] nic-doffay, feeling better, btw? [08:50] Saviq, yeah a little. Good enough to be behind a desk. [08:57] pstolowski, hey, does the trace in bug #1211595 look anything familiar? [08:57] bug 1211595 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "unity8 crashed with SIGSEGV in operator()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1211595 [08:57] prolly not... [09:01] Saviq, how was the time off btw? [09:01] nic-doffay, awesome, thanks [09:01] nic-doffay, too short, as usual ;) [09:14] Saviq: hi! sorry, had a meeting [09:14] pstolowski, no worries [09:14] ooh, nice netsplir [09:14] t [09:23] Saviq: haven't seen this bt before, needs investigation [09:24] pstolowski, yeah, initially I thought it was happening in Nux, but then read it properly... [09:37] Saviq: are you up-to-date with the fixes for category reordering that tsdgeos was working on before he started holidays? [09:37] pstolowski, he sent me an email, not gotten to it yet [09:45] Saviq: ah, ok, good he did send it. no worries, I'm totally busy with other stuff, so this one can wait === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [10:48] hey qt people, I've a question ... I would like to build a model from cpp to display it in qml [10:48] that's basically a list of icons with a "name/icon/value" [10:48] of items* [10:48] what would you use for that as a type on the cpp side? [10:49] QList ? [10:49] QQmlListProperty? [10:49] * seb128 is a bit lost in the google suggestions [10:58] seb128, yes, I think QQmlListProperty is what you want [11:04] seb128, yeah, QQLP is the "static list" equivalent of QAbstractListModel [11:05] dandrader, Saviq: thanks, I'm going to look a bit more to that [11:05] seb128, if you only need a single value - QStringListModel's there, too [11:05] ideally I would need a QList [11:05] Saviq, no, I need icon/name/value for each item [11:07] seb128, well, there is a QVariantListModel floating around [11:07] seb128, that's a QList [11:07] +wrapper for [11:07] seb128, we have it in unity8 and it's there in gsettings-qt [11:08] seb128, we should probably put it somewhere common (or even push to include in Qt) [11:09] Saviq, that would be good, I'm going to have a look to QQmlListProperty meanwhile [11:09] thanks === hikiko is now known as hikiko|lunch === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:30] mzanetti: still the same issues with that merge request. Looks like the notification tests are failing, but I can't imagine my patch having an influence on that. [11:30] https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity8/lp1219057/+merge/184622 [11:31] larsu: I've seen them fail with other branches to [11:31] o [11:31] okay, I'm hoping someone will review this despite the CI failure ;) [11:34] sure [11:36] MacSlow|lunch: ^^ [11:36] MacSlow|lunch: can you see why the notification tests are failing? [11:59] greyback: joy? [12:00] kgunn: pretty much everything working (aside from OSK on Mir, which we can fix up after most stuff lands) [12:00] greyback: osk...meaning rotation? [12:01] kgunn, on screen keyboard === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:01] kgunn: no, it's not appearing at all for the moment. I've still not figured out why [12:01] Saviq: thanks...i knew the acronym expansion :) [12:02] kgunn, d'oh sorry ;) [12:02] suspect that maliit coming up before shell has, so maliit has no display server to conenct to and fails [12:02] greyback: ah... [12:03] greyback: not sure that can land tho, i mean, how to connect to password wifi [12:04] greyback: at least the symbol collision tween qtubuntu & platformapi all sorted ? [12:04] kgunn: yes, that's fixed [12:06] kgunn: yes on the OSK, it will be fixed, but would like to land all the other branches first === hikiko|lunch is now known as hikiko [12:11] greyback: got it landing all != creating an image for testing [12:12] kgunn: yep. I've the OSK working with Mir. Just upstart needs tweaking to launch things in the correct order for mir. So it's not a big deal === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch === _salem is now known as salem_ === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:23] mzanetti, I will take a look [12:26] MacSlow: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-saucy/2725/artifact/unity8.shell.tests.test_notifications.InteractiveNotificationBase.test_sd_incoming_call%20%28Desktop%20Nexus%204%29.ogv [12:26] MacSlow: weird... the notification just doesn't show up [12:26] it passes locally here [12:37] mzanetti, it's "one of those just on Jenkins"-things... [12:37] mzanetti, oddly the other notification-tests seem to pass [12:40] yes [12:40] and yes [12:41] mzanetti, I'd not be surprised if another run makes them pass again. [12:41] mzanetti, in the videos no bubble shows up at all [12:41] MacSlow: it failed on about 5 runs in a row now [12:41] always those 2 [12:42] mzanetti, locally I can't test those as I cannot compile current unity8 trunk... still trying to figure out what's missing on the build-side this time [12:43] ??? [12:44] and I can't commit as qsortfilterproxymodeltest fails upon "bzr commit" [12:45] ok.... I can't compile... so I can't commit as it is missing some built tests [12:46] mzanetti, or do you know about a missing "unity::shell::launcher::LauncherItemInterface::focusedChanged(bool)" in launcheritem.cpp:144 ? [12:46] MacSlow: apt-get upgrade [12:47] mzanetti, I tried that of course too... but the package-db is messed up... [12:47] mzanetti, this is really not my day [12:50] Saviq: btw... the fact that our autopilot tests use the mock plugins is... well, dunno how to put it :D [12:51] mzanetti, wrong? ;) [12:51] ok. lets go with that :D [12:51] mzanetti, but it's only using mocks for lightdm and applications, no? [12:52] no... since the refactor for everything I'm afraid [12:52] mzanetti, nope [12:52] mzanetti, see the -fake-env package [12:53] hmm... indeed... the launcher uses the real backend [13:03] Mirv, want to speed up qt build *a lot*? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-June/037380.html === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:13] mzanetti, MacSlow related http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/4122/unity8-autopilot/ ? [13:13] yes... exactly those 2 [13:14] here's something that might possibly help http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20130910.changes [13:14] the difference in the image between SUCCESS and FAILURE [13:15] obviously might not be related [13:15] ah... git1-notify [13:15] yeah [13:15] Saviq, mzanetti: there's too much going on atm... let me finish one thing first then I turn back to that failure... [13:16] MacSlow: I'll take care at that failure... just continue with the SIM pin stuff [13:16] mzanetti, ok [13:16] mzanetti, thx [13:21] mzanetti, you're still on libnotify 0.7.5? [13:21] Saviq: just doing an upgrade right now [13:21] mzanetti, yeah, /me runs locally, too [13:21] but kde 4.11.1 comes in. takes a little bit :D [13:22] ;) [13:23] mzanetti, yeah, failure here on 0.7.6 [13:30] mzanetti, https://git.gnome.org/browse/libnotify/log/ [13:30] mzanetti, seems only one commit that could cause it, really [13:30] mzanetti, https://git.gnome.org/browse/libnotify/commit/?id=2b4ab4d22f42dd264a4ddfa68b02bba0d6c71b0b [13:31] the allow-none probably [13:31] dammit... I missed the standup [13:32] greyback, standup [13:36] mterry: "kind of almost works"...i'm going to use that [13:37] :) [13:40] Saviq: I didn't quite understand what MR you were doing on Albert's work [13:40] greyback, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtdeclarative-opensource-src/+bug/1217924 [13:40] Launchpad bug 1217924 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Add patch for letting users of a QML ListView specify the delegate creation range" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:40] Saviq: gotcha [13:53] mzanetti, in the fix, please catch TypeError on calling with 6 args and only then call with 5 args, if possible [13:53] mzanetti, i.e. support both, 'cause we need to revert the libnotify fix for a bit [13:53] but then reintroduce it [13:53] ok [13:54] anyone knows why unity8 needs 20 secs for starting up lately? [13:54] mzanetti, sounds like a service is blocking [13:54] mzanetti, hud? [13:54] mzanetti, mine starts straight away [13:55] yeah... hud sounds reasonable [13:56] yep hud [13:56] mzanetti, I always had it after I dist-upgraded my desktop and some hud-related thing got updated. rebooting "solved" it === jono is now known as Guest88427 === mzanetti is now known as mzanetti|meeting [14:06] Saviq, what do you make of the last few comments here? https://code.launchpad.net/~nicolas-doffay/unity8/filter-selector/+merge/183503 [14:06] I've been trying to get to the bottom of this issue to no avail. [14:07] nic-doffay, let me restart the job there [14:07] ah actually it's 1 hr old [14:07] * Saviq looks through [14:08] nic-doffay, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-saucy/2728/testReport/junit/unity8.shell.tests.test_notifications/EphemeralNotificationsTests/test_summary_and_body_Desktop_Nexus_4_/ looks weird [14:10] nic-doffay, and I can reproduce locally [14:12] Saviq, sorry meant to specify not jenkins, the comments about tryCompare. [14:13] nic-doffay, yeah, but still... where does the Popover failure come from.. [14:13] nic-doffay, ah, you removed "import Ubuntu.Components.Popups 0.1" [14:14] nic-doffay, I expect one of them to be strins [14:14] strings [14:15] nic-doffay, i.e. "true" != true, but print(true) == print("true") [14:15] nic-doffay, that's why the message isn't helpful [14:17] nic-doffay, but regardless, I get quite a bit of errors http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6088153/ and dash doesn't work at all [14:17] Saviq, you're right about that. Still busy with the other issue. [14:19] Saviq, got it, checking out the interactive issue now. === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:22] Saviq, those are fixed. If you don't mind having a look yourself in a while and give your thoughts it would be appreciated. [14:22] nic-doffay, cheers [14:23] Saviq, still sorting out the tests though. [14:23] But feel free to comment on the rest. [14:23] nic-doffay, my review might not happen, though, I'm travelling starting Thusrday, back on Monday the 23rd :/ [14:23] nic-doffay, I'll do a functional review, though [14:24] (for work, that is, not going back on holiday already!) [14:26] nic-doffay, changing the filters doesn't seem to do anything, that expected? [14:28] nic-doffay, there's some weird issue with the option selector, too - when I select, the 2nd (or latter) option and reopen the selector, it scrolls up 1/2 of item height [14:28] pstolowski, ^ do you still have an unmerged branch in trunk by any chance? [14:28] Saviq, yeah those issues with the selector have been solved in a branch which landed this morning. [14:28] in the sdk [14:28] nic-doffay, ah ok, let me try with that, the [14:28] n [14:29] nic-doffay: no, nothing re filters [14:29] pstolowski, any idea about what Saviq mentioned above? === mzanetti|meeting is now known as mzanetti [14:30] nic-doffay, nope, the "scrolls half way up" is still there [14:30] nic-doffay, it's not visible in the gallery, 'cause the selectors there always show all the items [14:31] Oh Saviq [14:31] The scrolls half way up isn't a bug. [14:31] Design requested that. [14:31] nic-doffay: nope.. it worked last time I integrated and tested our branches ~2 weeks ago [14:31] So the user knows you are able to scroll. [14:31] nic-doffay, yikes... [14:32] pstolowski, mind merging my branch and checking again? [14:32] Saviq, yeah. [14:32] nic-doffay: sure, will do [14:33] pstolowski, cheers. [14:33] pstolowski, nothing has changed re that on the UI end which is why I'm confused. [14:34] nic-doffay: I see, weird.. but it definately worked at some point after fixing activation issue on my side [14:35] nic-doffay: do I still need that experimental sdk branch, or it's all merged? [14:35] pstolowski, 488 on PageHeader is where the action happens. [14:35] I don't think it's changed since we spoke about it last. [14:35] That is PageHeader.qml === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:38] sil2100, any eta on when libunity & co might land? [14:38] cc mfisch ^ [14:38] cwayne / ssweeny: this is what we're waiting on ^^^ [14:38] pstolowski, I think it's been merged. [14:39] mfisch, ack [14:39] mhr3: hm, once we finally get a working daily-release tick! [14:42] dandrader: fixed [14:42] nic-doffay, my functional comments https://code.launchpad.net/~nicolas-doffay/unity8/filter-selector/+merge/183503/comments/419957 [14:42] sil2100, what's blocking it? [14:43] mhr3: strange machinery issues - first we had a broken kernel with aufs problems, now we seem to be getting network errors on jenkins on the prepare jobs all the time [14:43] mzanetti, approved [14:46] nic-doffay: I remember I mentioned one bug to you last time we talked, where a string such as "OptionSelector_QMLTYPE_133(0x1ea4120)" was passed to setActive instead of actual option id or index; have you spotted it? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [14:47] Saviq: can you do that fix please... my python skills are not good enough [14:47] mzanetti, sure, doing [14:48] Saviq: unity8/shell/emulators/create_interactive_notification.py [14:48] Saviq: line 91 [14:48] Saviq: there's a None, but must be some GLib crap [14:48] GLib.DestroyNotify [14:49] whatever that is [14:50] sil2100, sounds like fun :P [14:51] mhr3: it *might* be resolved now, since I checked on one stack and it was fine, so I spinned the machinery now [14:52] Saviq, commented again. Mind elaborating on the expansion pattern going to almost full height? [14:52] mhr3: btw. ;) libunity changes that you want to release... do you have bugfixes there, or features? Is there an FFe for that? Since the touch FFe sadly doesn't have libunity mentioned [14:52] Saviq, my do you mean the OptionSelector should scroll when it's expanded? [14:52] And in the end Steve didn't want a discussion about the common desktop-touch components FFe [14:52] nic-doffay, see what the dash does when you tap on section headers [14:52] sil2100, we have scope-specific ffe for touch changes [14:53] sil2100, although it's not linked from the branches [14:53] nic-doffay, something similar needs to happen with the option selectors, too [14:54] sil2100, #1215397 [14:54] Saviq, it just displays an additional row, correct? [14:56] Saviq, should it scroll the contents to about half way? [14:56] nic-doffay, not the *content* of the option selector [14:56] nic-doffay, but the *view* in which the option selector is [14:56] nic-doffay, should scroll to allow the option selector to expand to maximum needed [14:57] or start scrolling inside [14:57] Saviq, ah I see. [14:57] nic-doffay, https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1_c4029C6Jwll_ng8gqp3SRnF4DgXRA3tR_LL3J-zOD8/edit [14:57] https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1XigSp8dsW0gcL8xUkrDytm18qAyiXOXXdSaF3CWtNVg/edit#heading=h.cpfn81n0c0rr [14:57] nic-doffay, we discussed this earlier - there needs to be a Container and a Expandable base ListItem [14:58] nic-doffay, that work together to implement that behaviour [14:58] and OptionSelector would be an Expandable [14:59] mzanetti, you overengineered ;) https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-new-libnotify/+merge/184799 [14:59] nic-doffay: ok I see the problem [14:59] nic-doffay: setActive recieves false all the time when you call it [15:00] mzanetti, although that fix is actually conflicting with what is said in https://git.gnome.org/browse/libnotify/commit/?id=2b4ab4d22f42dd264a4ddfa68b02bba0d6c71b0b [15:00] seb128, ↑ says the *count* of arguments didn't change, but their type did [15:00] seb128, but the error said there was an incorrect number of arguments [15:01] seb128, and https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-new-libnotify/+merge/184799 fixes, but seems in conflict with what the git commit did? [15:01] nic-doffay: also, judging from the behavior (options are activated anyway in the ui), it seems that ui is still "disconnected" from the backend, i.e. it keeps track of active option by itself rather than relying on the model as discussed earlier === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:02] pstolowski, see line 18 [15:02] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6088350/ [15:02] !active should access the role. [15:02] nic-doffay: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [15:02] Saviq, yeah, I don't understand why the count changed, I'm trying to get hold of pitti but he's in Lexington for the QA sprint and not around [15:03] seb128, to me it suggests the git commit is wrong, TBH [15:03] Saviq, to me is suggest that gir is :p [15:03] seb128, as it will break uses that *do* want callback to destroy user data [15:04] Saviq, anyway, I reverted the commit and intend to keep it this way until I sort it out with pitti, that's likely to create issue for any code using that api [15:04] pstolowski, forget it I think I know what it is. [15:04] nic-doffay: hmm, indeed. but I added debug in setActive, and it's definately getting 'false' all the time [15:04] seb128, ok, I'll put the !fix on hold until then [15:04] mzanetti, ignore the merge for now [15:04] mzanetti, seems the issue might be in libunity in the end [15:04] nic-doffay: I'll add comments to the MP [15:04] Saviq: wait... [15:05] mzanetti, we reverted libnotify [15:05] mzanetti, so there's no need to fix it on our side [15:05] removing that argument makes it compile? [15:05] mzanetti, yes, that's the thing [15:05] python sucks [15:05] mzanetti, not python [15:05] like really [15:05] mzanetti, and not compile [15:05] pstolowski, just pushed something. [15:05] mzanetti, gir [15:05] I think it should work now... [15:06] Saviq: anyways... ping me when I should "review" [15:06] mzanetti, probably never [15:07] Saviq, opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnotify/+bug/1223401 for tracking [15:07] Launchpad bug 1223401 in libnotify (Ubuntu) "[0.7.6] the add_action api changed creating issues for clients" [Undecided,New] [15:08] seb128, thanks [15:09] pstolowski, let me know if the new push sorted it. [15:11] pstolowski, regarding the ui disconnection. [15:11] This is what happens. [15:11] !active is gotten from the role. [15:11] And passed straight into the backend when a delegate is clicked. [15:11] pstolowski, is this incorrect in your opinion? [15:12] nic-doffay: yes, this is fine but still, the option is selected in the ui even though it wasn't selected in the backend [15:14] pstolowski, is there a way to get the selected index from the backend? [15:14] pstolowski, like getActiveIndex or whatever [15:15] nic-doffay: it didn't help [15:15] pstolowski, ? [15:15] nic-doffay: there isn't. do you need it because of the sdk? [15:16] pstolowski, yeah. [15:16] pstolowski, I'd need to bind it to the selectedIndex. [15:16] of the OptionSelector. [15:16] pstolowski, no clue why that isn't working now. [15:16] What I'm doing is passing the index which is being selected and the !active [15:17] pstolowski, that sounds right? [15:17] nic-doffay: indeed, it looks sensible.. but I'm still getting false [15:19] pstolowski, I'll have to do some digging. [15:23] kgunn, ping [15:24] Saviq: pong [15:44] mhr3, Do you guys have a plan to port the application lens over to using upstart-app-launch? [15:45] tedg, apps lens doesn't run apps [15:45] unity does [15:45] tedg, unity will do that [15:45] mhr3, ? What happens when, after install, I click on "Open"? [15:46] I guess that's the click lens [15:46] right [15:46] tedg, unity sends the "activate" signal to the scope, and it should come back with *shrug* [15:46] and it still won't try to run it [15:46] tedg, and that's when unity takes over again and activates itself via app manager [15:46] tedg, which, in turn, will use upstart [15:47] Ah, okay. I didn't realize. [15:47] I thought the scope activated the app at that point. [15:47] tedg, all the activation stuff moves towards Unity at this point (with some exceptions), as remote scopes can't do zilch [15:48] I think that about remote scopes too :-) [15:48] of course they can... but on the server [15:48] which isn't that useful :P [15:49] I just don't see that many publicly available and anonymous sources that I want to search other than Wikipedia/Google [15:53] mzanetti, ping [16:06] Hey guys who is the best person to talk to about apps in the launcher not launching anything? [16:08] hey nic-doffay, what up? [16:11]