[01:55] <rick_h_> kind of cool, greg-g has a popular bookmark https://twitter.com/search?q=bmark.us&src=typd
[01:56] <rick_h_> and the promise of bookie/readable content pays off. The page is gone/404, but the readable content is still there. Yay!
[02:27] <rick_h_> cmaloney: widox was there any news about CHC location last week? e.g. are they going to be closed this week?
[03:09] <cmaloney> I didn't ask unfortunately
[03:11] <cmaloney> That said, they didn't offer either
[04:32] <greg-g> rick_h_: nice
[12:08] <jrwren> morn
[12:09] <rick_h_> morning
[12:11] <brousch> ug
[12:48] <widox> rick_h_: I didn't make it out last week
[12:48] <widox> rick_h_ cmaloney are they starting to change over brands?
[12:48] <rick_h_> widox: k, just checking.
[12:48] <rick_h_> widox: so one of the stores was supposed to be changing around the 1st I think it was?
[12:48] <rick_h_> our store was going to swap later, but they're going to get trained on the first one to switch/etc
[12:49] <widox> ah
[12:49] <widox> ok, I thought they said October'ish in the past
[12:49] <rick_h_> yea, I assume we're safe but curious if you guys heard anything
[12:49] <rick_h_> sounds like nope
[12:50] <widox> or, we'll just be in the parking lot on your mifi ;)
[12:50] <rick_h_> lol;
[13:04] <brousch> rick_h_: Give mcdonc some work http://plope.com/is_open_source_consulting_dead
[13:04] <rick_h_> brousch: hah! Didn't you hear, we don't do python any more :P
[13:05] <rick_h_> I did hit him up to talk about it via podcast. I think with that and armin's post we'd have a good episode
[13:10] <brousch> So Python is dead?!
[13:10] <brousch> Damnit. What are people using now?
[13:11] <brousch> And which Armin post are you talking about?
[13:14] <rick_h_> brousch: the one from yesterday
[13:14] <rick_h_> brousch: yea, Go is taking over :P it is getting some traction
[13:14] <rick_h_> mongodb is doign their new tooling all in mongodb
[13:14] <rick_h_> doing that is ugh
[13:17] <jrwren> the problem is how he thinks. "open source consulting" <-- its a mindset problem
[13:17] <brousch> I remember an Alex Gaynor post (not your playground), but not an Armin post
[13:17] <rick_h_> brousch: ah sorry you're right. That post
[13:17] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, it is.
[13:17] <jrwren> tooling in go you mean?
[13:20] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, having too many conversations at once this morning. ugh
[13:21] <jrwren> whenever someone laments like this, I go to the obvious answer: you have your carts hitched to the wrong horse. :)
[13:23] <jrwren> i just finished my cup of coffee, so I'm ready for today. :)
[13:25] <brousch> The Kivy lead dev has a similar problem (in France)
[13:26] <brousch> Though we determined part of his problem is that his rates were too low for the value he can provide
[13:35] <jrwren> i need more openstack friends. Learning this myself with no support is a pain.
[13:48] <brousch> No IRC channel?
[13:51] <jrwren> its useless
[14:03] <jrwren> *sigh* and I search bugs and find my own :(
[14:05] <rick_h_> jrwren: what are you up to these days?
[14:06] <rick_h_> that's using/hammering against openstack?
[14:06] <jrwren> writing a cloud orchestration tool :p
[14:07] <rick_h_> lol
[14:07] <jrwren> not really, but a mgmt tool.
[14:07] <jrwren> an existing mgmtool from before ec2 had a mgmt console
[14:07] <rick_h_> ugh
[14:07] <jrwren> extending with openstack support, and finding openstack pretty terrible.
[14:09] <jrwren> actually... i wonder if juju isn't designed the way it is becuase openstack sucks in the places i'm poking it.
[14:10] <rick_h_> well, the thing to remember is that juju is meant to work around OS, AWS, Azure, etc
[14:10] <rick_h_> so it's working around a lot of sucky places
[14:10] <jrwren> so yes! :)
[14:10] <jrwren> hrm...
[14:10] <jcastro> my management tool do you mean soemthing like the AWS console?
[14:11] <jrwren> jcastro: nothing so fancy, no.
[14:11] <jrwren> just something to start/stop/managedns and userdata in our environment.
[14:12] <rick_h_> jrwren: you guys run your own OS?
[14:12] <rick_h_> openstack I guess...OS doesn't shorten well for that does it
[14:12] <jrwren> ha!
[14:12] <jrwren> yes, we have a grizzly deploy
[14:13] <jrwren> basically, we want 1 tool for hybrid cloud mgmt, so tool manages services and where they run and when I start/stop it happens in correct place.
[14:13] <jrwren> it all works pretty well, except for the occasional openstack wtf.
[14:14] <jrwren> for example, openstack takes userdata as part of query string instead of post data AFAICT, so I think its probably limited in size a bit more than ec2s 16k limit
[15:16] <cmaloney> Good morning
[15:19] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Actually we went by the Downtown Royal Oak Caribou. It's papered up with a sign in the window looking for applicants
[15:19] <cmaloney> No ETA on when it's supposed to open
[15:33] <trevlar> cmaloney: yeah I saw that a few days ago.. but it's not going to be caribou anymore?
[15:34] <trevlar> http://berkley.patch.com/groups/business-news/p/caribou-coffee-shops-in-royal-oak-to-be-converted-to-peets
[15:35] <trevlar> the sign had a peet's logo on it
[15:46] <jrwren> ah! I guess ultimately my issue is openstack doesn't support gzipped userdata :(
[15:46] <jrwren> oh well, I can live without for now.
[15:48] <cmaloney> It'll be Peets in the future
[15:48] <cmaloney> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-michigan/2319-michigan-ubuntu-global-jam-s-series/
[15:49] <cmaloney> Unfortunately I can't just say "The State of Michigan" so I gave the address of the Capitol Building in Lansing
[15:49] <cmaloney> so please for the love of God don't make the trip unless you have business in Lansing. :)
[15:56] <greg-g> haha
[15:57] <greg-g> cmaloney: just instigated the quietest and geekiest protest on the state capitol
[16:06] <cmaloney> ;)
[16:07] <cmaloney> WEll, and it's also supposed to be the state of Michigan. When I just put the state in there it chose somewhere south of Traverse City
[16:07] <cmaloney> which would have been a real fun one
[17:14] <brousch> center of the state
[17:24] <cmaloney> Yep
[17:24] <waf> here's waf's CS interview tip #57: if asked to take an online assessment, do not respond with "i will not take your piddling on-line evaluation"
[17:27] <waf> especially if you're a college student looking for an entry level position
[17:27] <rick_h_> yea, I was going to say...it's ok if you're willing to walk away from the job or point at OSS completed imo
[17:29] <waf> sure, sometimes we have (senior) people balking at taking a test, though rarely that rude.
[17:29] <rick_h_> oh, I didn't realize that was a quote
[17:29] <waf> yep
[17:29] <rick_h_> that's dumb regardless
[17:30] <cmaloney> I wonder if they thought it was one of those logic problem tests
[17:30] <cmaloney> like "why are manhole covers round"
[17:30] <waf> nah, we gave a description of it.  it covers cs fundamentals
[17:30] <cmaloney> That's the only kind of test I'd walk away from unless my job was to write those sorts of lateral thinking problems.
[17:31] <waf> right
[17:31] <cmaloney> I remmeber commenting to someone asking me to write one of those programming problems "is there much call for this stuff here"?
[17:32] <waf> it's less concerning that he put up some resistance, it's more about being needlessly rude to our HR person.
[17:32] <cmaloney> Needless to say I didn't get that job.
[17:32] <cmaloney> Yeah, no. That's definitely rude.
[17:32] <cmaloney> Trying to understand more than absolve
[17:33] <jrwren> i love screeners.
[17:34] <rick_h_> cmaloney: thurs night podcast?
[17:34] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Can't this week
[17:34] <rick_h_> cmaloney: k
[17:34] <cmaloney> rick_h_: But yeah, seems this is the week to resurrect the podcast. :)
[17:35] <cmaloney> or month
[17:35] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea, chris McD is up for a chat on his blog post and alex's
[17:35] <cmaloney> Oh, that's awesome.
[17:35] <cmaloney> It'd be fitting, since I think he was our last interview
[17:35] <rick_h_> yea
[18:42] <mathomastech> Exciting news. I finally have a computer set up to idle in IRC all day! Ok, maybe not all that exciting.
[18:42] <cmaloney> mathomastech: That's awesome that they have computers out there. :)
[18:43] <rick_h_> lol
[18:43] <mathomastech> cmaloney: Yea, I was surprised as well.
[18:44] <mathomastech> So, I connected to the ubuntu-us-mn (Minnesota) channel and am sad to see a near ghost town there. Only a half dozen people connected, and no one actually talking.
[18:44] <greg-g> hmm, I wonder who I know in there
[18:45] <greg-g> h00k is familiar, but I forget who they are. Tony Y is good people
[18:45] <cmaloney> Yeah, I feel blessed that we actually have a core group of folks that will talk online
[18:47] <mathomastech> greg-g Tonyy seems to be the Minnesota Coordinator. Ive seen his name several places on the Minnesota LoCo pages.
[18:47] <greg-g> yeah
[18:55] <brousch> What's that easy chroot thing people are gushing about?
[18:56] <cmaloney> lxc?
[19:05] <jrwren> chroot is the easy chroot.
[19:05] <jrwren> lxc is the really nice container thingy
[19:06] <cmaloney> jrwren: Yeah, but we've sold it as a super-chroot
[19:06] <cmaloney> even though it's more a container
[19:08] <rick_h_> lxc...it even has container in the name
[20:10] <mathomastech> I am finally starting to see the issues everyone else has had with Google Maps. It is extremely slow to load and redraw. Just started seeing it the past few weeks. It was quite snappy when I first got access to it. Anyone else having problems?
[20:21] <widox> its always been slow for me
[20:22] <flipsidecreation> hello
[20:23] <flipsidecreation> the new google maps is quite cpu intensive
[20:30] <cmaloney> Yeah, I haven't been able to get it to start up, afaict
[21:10] <cmaloney> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/09/canonical-launch-ubuntu-voice-initiative
[21:11] <greg-g> man, git filter-branch on my eeepc 'server' is really slow
[21:13] <cmaloney> greg-g: It's definitely disk I/O intensive
[21:15] <greg-g> yah, doesn't help that it is also over usb ;)
[21:16] <cmaloney> greg-g: I think the only way you could make it suck is if it was over Wifi to a card punch reader.
[21:17] <greg-g> :)
[21:17] <cmaloney> s/suck/suck more/
[21:17] <greg-g> yeah
[21:19] <greg-g> my stupidity for accidentally having git add a bunch of podcasts instead of git-annex add them :/
[21:19] <greg-g> (and git-annex sync auto committed them)
[21:21] <cmaloney> Are you using that as a backup strategy?
[21:23] <greg-g> I wouldn't say backups, but, data management across multiple devices
[21:24] <greg-g> but yeah, poor man's backups in a way (makes offsite easy)
[21:24] <cmaloney> Huh. I'm having a bit of mind-wrap to see how this works.
[21:24] <greg-g> I love it for my documents, music, videos, photos, etc kind of media
[21:24] <greg-g> but I still do real backups of everything else (using obnam)
[21:24] <cmaloney> I wish obnam worked for me
[21:25] <cmaloney> It never seemed to finish
[21:25] <greg-g> what part doesn't?
[21:25] <greg-g> oh, sad
[21:25] <cmaloney> Yeah, had to revert to rdiff-backup
[21:25] <greg-g> which isn't bad
[21:26] <cmaloney> Yeah, it just seemed like something I might enjoy using
[21:26] <cmaloney> but it didn't seem to work well with virtualbox images
[21:26] <greg-g> def, I love Lar's design aesthetics
[21:27] <cmaloney> I might retry it again at some point
[21:31] <cmaloney> Oh, an di think a bug that I had was also causing problems, and the PPA wasn't up to date
[21:31] <cmaloney> it looks like it's been updated since then
[21:32] <cmaloney> I wish I had better notes
[21:50] <greg-g> :)