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Kilosmorning all05:28
nuvolarimornings oom Kilos 06:31
nuvolarikbmonkey: ping06:31
Kiloslo nuvolari 06:40
Kilosapie away!06:40
Kiloshy sal jou ping sien vrydag06:40
Kiloshi bduk1 06:49
nuvolari:O weg waarheen oom Kilos ?06:51
Kilosafk06:51
Kilosdis reg ne? away from keyboard06:52
Kilosmorning superfly 06:52
superflyohi Kilos06:52
bduk1Ah it works. Morning everyone06:57
inetprogood morning everyone07:11
Vince-0suro07:11
Vince-0surp*07:11
Kiloshi inetpro Vince-0 07:14
Kiloshi mazal 07:30
mazalMore oom07:30
mazalCan I use UbuntuOne to sync my Documents folder at hom with work ?07:31
Kilosi think you choose what you want synced07:32
mazalStill looking for a solution to have the same docs on my home pc and work pc07:32
Kilosyeah must be, i synced just one folder on my desktop07:33
Kilosyou choose the path if i remember right07:33
mazalHow safe is UO ?07:33
Kilosi spose as safe as the rest of the ne07:34
KilosMaaz, google how safe is ubuntu one07:34
MaazKilos: "[ubuntu] Is Ubuntu One secure? - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592610 :: "security - How safe is EU-based Ubuntu One cloud data? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/58821/how-safe-is-eu-based-ubuntu-one-cloud-data :: "security - How can I encrypt data in Ubuntu One or Dropbox? - Ask ..."07:34
Maazhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/75377/how-can-i-encrypt-data-in-ubuntu-one-or-dropbox :: "UbuntuOne/Security - Ubuntu Wiki" …07:34
mazalSo if I choose let's say Documents folder , it will sync that folder on both pc's and their server ? If I delete a file on one pc it will delete on the other one also ? Or will just upload it again from the other pc ?07:53
Kilosyip you just gotta tell it to sync from both or copy from u1 to the second one07:54
Kilossame username password should work with sync07:55
mazalWhat if the folders I select on pc 1 doesn't exist on pc two , will create them automatically ?08:11
ThatGraemeGuymornings08:31
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 08:34
Kilos7 days08:35
Kiloshiya maiatoday 08:35
ThatGraemeGuyyes indeed :)08:35
Kilosno mazal you make them then and it will sync to it08:35
Kilosnearly one hand only ThatGraemeGuy 08:35
mazalSo I must still manually create all the folders on pc 2 ?08:36
Kilosnot if you choose documents08:36
Kiloslook at the options, i think you can sync your whole pc there08:36
Kilosi just wanted one folder so ian could get it08:37
Kilosthen anything added or removed from that folder synced08:38
Kilosim not sure anymore but i think you can sync your /home there too08:40
Kilossize is 5g08:40
mazalHow do I remove a folder that I added ?08:42
Kilosup there or on your pc08:43
Kilossomewhere in u1 there was a way to delete08:43
mazalThere's no option , just a tick mark08:43
mazalI can't delete it completely it seems08:44
Kilosi forget what all was there, havent used for 6 months i think08:44
Kilosthere was a way to delete them though because after ian had the OS i sent im sure i removed it to save space08:45
KilosMaaz, google how to delete folders on ubuntuone08:46
MaazKilos: "Ubuntu One : Help : FAQs—How do I remove a folder I previously ..." https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/how-do-i-remove-a-folder-i-previously-selected-to-synchronize-with-ubuntu-one/ :: "Ubuntu One : Help" https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/ :: "How do I remove a folder from the Ubuntu One "Folders" tab - Ask ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/149124/how-08:46
Maazdo-i-remove-a-folder-from-the-ubuntu-one-folders-tab :: "How do I delete files/folders from Ubu…08:46
=== smile_ is now known as smile
Kilosohi smile 08:49
smilehi Kilos :D08:49
Kilosoh08:49
Kilos:-) :) :D <3 smileys for the week08:50
smileYeah :(08:51
smile<3 is not supported on ChatZilla :p08:52
Kiloshaha08:52
Kilosorks on mxit08:52
Kilosworks too08:52
smile:)08:54
* smile is working on Wikipedia08:55
Kilosgood08:55
mazalAg no man this is stupid , I can't find any way to remove a previously added folder :-(08:57
Kilosdid you look at the links above mazal ?08:57
mazalYep , doesn't work08:57
Kilosoh my08:57
Kilosleave it there empty then08:58
mazalI can't even add Documents now because there is a previously added folder Documents/Linux_Dox08:58
mazalNow I can't add documents cause it overlaps08:58
Kilosmaybe rename when you have another one you wanna add08:58
mazalStupid thing08:58
mazalI want to add the whole documents08:58
Kiloshehe08:58
Kilosthere are guys that can help08:58
mazalThere this thing fails even before I start08:59
Kilos just /j #ubuntuone08:59
Kilosi also battled to start off08:59
Kilosits because we dont understand it09:00
mazalWhy not have just a simple remove button09:00
mazalIt's so simple , but nooooo09:00
Kilosso other peeps cant remove your stuff09:00
Kiloshehe09:00
Kilosask at #ubuntuone mazal they will help you09:01
Kilosdont get frustrated09:01
Kiloshow big is your documents folder?09:03
mazalI'm so gatvol of crap that don't work in these so called modern OS's09:03
Kiloshehe no man it will work09:03
Kilostake a deep breathe relax and think it out or ask for help from the boffs09:04
Kilosoh my netsplits again09:14
Kilosbiiiig one09:14
mazalInstalling Chrome now to see if the buttons on site will work with that09:14
mazalIt doesn't with Firefox09:15
Kilosoh do you see the buttons09:15
mazalNope , they don't work09:15
Kilosgrayed out but09:15
Kilosupgrade your ubuntuone09:15
mazalAparently Ubuntu One client is to dumb to have a remove button and you can only do it on their website09:16
mazalBut on their website nothing works09:16
Kilosai!09:16
mazalSo I hope it's a firefox thing ( which would also be really stupid as it's the Ubuntu default browser )09:17
mazalIf it is their site , then I can't do a simple task like that09:17
Kilosthen ask them they will fix it09:18
mazalAnd worse , I can't continue cos I can't add the needed folder :-(09:18
Kiloswhy?09:19
mazalBecause it complains that the current one overlaps the new one09:19
Kiloslook for a rethedocs thing09:19
Kilosor a manual or userguide09:19
Kilosreadthedocs09:19
mazalOnly thing that will work it seems is to remove the current folder on their site in the cloud09:20
mazalThe client can't do it09:20
mazalAnd on their site the button that must open that option doesn't work09:20
mazalGonna try chrome now09:21
Kiloswb inetpro_ 09:21
Kilosand others09:21
Kilosok09:22
charlgood morning09:22
charlhi Kilos, mazal 09:22
Kiloshi charl 09:22
psyatwhi Kilos09:22
psyatwhi mazal09:22
psyatwhi charl09:22
Kilosyou just missed the netsplits09:22
psyatwand everyone else who is back09:22
Kiloshi psyatw 09:22
charlhi psyatw 09:23
charlit is raining cats and dogs09:23
Kilosah cheap pets for sale again09:24
mazalFails with chrome also09:24
Kilosthen tell them their site is broken09:24
charllol Kilos 09:25
mazalOk check this out , after installing chrome it works in firefox ????????09:26
Kiloshahaha see the prob is by you09:26
mazalNo way09:27
mazalChrome prob added something to make firefox work09:28
mazalHow silly is that09:28
mazalI would just make it way more user friendly and add a remove button to the folders in the UO client if I were them09:30
Kiloshaha see frustrated for nothing09:31
Kilosthe remove might not be there because peeps share there too09:32
mazalRemove must defnitely be in the client as well09:33
mazalYou should have all functions in the client that you have on site09:33
Kilosthat might be for if other peeps use your pc09:34
Kilosso they cant remove your stuff09:34
mazalI think it has more to do with id10t errors maybe09:34
mazalThe way I understand these settings , it should create new folders ( inside the shared folder ) automatically at pc 2 ?09:40
Kilosmaybe, keep notes so you can tell the next guy how to09:41
mazalIt's easy , install chrome to get firefox to work :-P09:45
mazalAnd DO NOT add any folders until you are 100% which top one will be in a sync09:45
mazalOh boy , now how do I stop this thing ? Want it to run at home first09:49
mazalClicking on disconnect yields no result09:49
Kiloslol09:49
mazalDissie snaaksie :-P Ek sukkel09:50
Kilosdont stop things while they working09:50
mazalNow I got it going and can't stop it09:50
Kilosyoull end up with corrupt stuffs09:50
mazalIt must run at home first09:50
mazalYay it disconnected !09:51
Kilosno man dont matter which way09:51
Kilosyou wanna sync so both are the same09:51
mazalFaster line there oom , want the upway sync there and the downway sync here09:52
Kilosso what matters which way it starts09:52
mazalJust to get both updated first09:52
mazalBasically I need to get the cloud up to date first , will be faster at home with the much faster line09:53
mazalThen the cloud can update this one on the better dl speed than ul speed09:53
Kilosah09:53
Kilosyeah upload speeds suck09:53
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inetprodankie Kilos11:17
mazalLekker aand almal12:28
mazalBye12:28
mazalOom Kilos , ek "dink" ek het UO reg. Sal more eers weet na die syncs12:29
mazalbye12:29
Kiloshmm...12:30
not_found*yawn*13:06
Kiloshi not_found 13:06
* Kilos yawning too13:06
not_foundit is contagious ....13:07
not_foundhi uncle Kilos13:07
not_foundHow is sunny SA today?13:15
Kilosoh so lekker not_found 29°c inna sun thats why im yawning13:25
Kilosbeen baking a bit13:25
not_foundthat is nice... a cool summers day :)13:34
Kilosnuvolari, have you fixed your slow boot?15:37
magespawngood evening16:43
magespawnhello Kilos 16:56
Kiloshi magespawn 16:56
psychicistgood evening magespawn 16:57
psychicisthi Kilos 16:57
Kiloshi psychicist 16:57
magespawnhi psychicist 16:57
Kilosso what did you do today magespawn 17:02
Kilosthis no good with you away all day17:02
magespawnlots of new things17:04
magespawnthey have an asterisk server running on CentOS managing their incoming and out going calls17:06
Kiloslol17:06
Kilosat least its linux17:07
magespawnyup indeed 17:07
magespawnlots of learning ahead17:12
Kilosyeah looks like17:13
Kilosits just remembering the diffs17:13
Kilosyum this and yum that17:13
magespawndeep end learning17:13
magespawnits all yummy17:14
Kiloshehe17:14
Kilosyoull have to join centos-za17:15
Kilosor wake nuvo up17:16
Kiloshe is having slow boot probs on 12.017:16
Kilos12.0417:16
Kilosmost likely looking for something it cant find17:17
magespawnmaybe17:25
magespawnnuvolari: ping17:29
Kiloswe need to jump on him17:30
Kiloshe asks for help at g+17:30
magespawnyou are allowed to do that17:31
Kiloslol ya but here first17:31
Kilosso i can see how its cured17:32
magespawnif i know where he is asking then i can bring it here17:33
Kilosi just saw it in an email17:33
Kilosand shame no one seems to be able to help that deon guy17:34
Kiloswith xl2tpd 17:34
Kiloshe dont even come here anymore17:35
Kilossigh17:35
Kiloshi stegreen mazal 17:42
mazalLo oom17:42
Kilosmagespawn, maybe if nuvo turns off boot splash he will see whats making it take so long17:43
Kiloswerk jou u117:43
magespawnmight be busy17:44
Kiloshehe he said its takes 252secs i think it was17:45
Kilosi read mails and delete them17:45
mazalMyne oom ?17:46
Kilosnee nuvo sin17:46
Kiloso en ja is jou u1 werkend mazal 17:46
Kilosskuus man17:46
mazalYep mine synced at home without a problem , will see tomorrow at work when it needs to sync down to that pc17:47
Kilosof moet jy chrome instaleer om firefox te laat werk17:47
Kiloshaha17:47
Kilosthats good, see you got angry for nothing17:47
Kilosclever peeps made ubuntuone17:48
Kilosi wish i could use that 5g space to host my bot17:52
mazalNot for nothing , still say it's stupid not to have a remove folder option in the client17:59
mazalI think that is prob the number 1 request they are getting18:00
Kilosthere must be a valid reason18:00
mazalMind you , lets see if my firefox at home works on their site18:00
Kilosi remember having to go to their site to do a coupla things18:01
mazalAt home firefox works18:02
mazalI also tested the shared folder with a friend thing18:02
Kiloslol18:02
mazalNow THAT is handy :-)18:02
Kilosyeah thats what i used18:02
mazalNo more sending Barry email with attachments whenever I need to send him something18:02
Kilosat least we can mail linux stuff. i tried with win stuff a coupla times and was refused18:05
Kilos.exe's i think they were18:05
mazalYa but Windooze is so insecure and scared you can't even let yourself in18:07
Kiloslol18:07
Kilosfound a thing called mailbigfile that works i spose like dropbox inna way and that accepts win stuff18:08
mazalJust zip the win stuff first18:12
Kilosim sure the mail client still sees the exe insid18:13
mazalRename it to .dat18:13
Kiloslol18:13
mazalor .anything for that matter18:13
magespawnyup they are blocking the .exe18:14
mazalWe do it at work. Zip the file and rename to .dat18:14
magespawnhi mazal18:15
mazalHi magespawn , hows things ?18:15
magespawngood, goot some hectic learning ahead of me but all good, and you?18:15
mazalBusy but ok thanx18:16
mazalAnd being tested by all things technology :P18:16
magespawnbusy is very good18:16
magespawnin a good way? the testing i mean18:16
mazalNope , patience being tested18:20
magespawnsometimes it is your lack of understanding, other times it is obtuse software design (most of the time)18:23
mazalJust played with the "share link" feature on 1 file on U1. That is also very handy. No more 3rd party file upload sites18:31
mazalI like that you get a link that anyone can dl the file even if they don't have an U1 account18:31
Kilosyeah its a handy 5g inna sky18:32
mazalAnd that specific feature is build-in to nautilus , very easy and handy18:33
mazalDon't even need to go to a site18:33
Kiloslol18:33
mazalIt's like , share , copy link , done18:34
magespawnthis is a pretty cool idea https://ifttt.com/wtf18:34
mazalOk guys , enough fiddling for one night me thinks. Netnou breek ek iets18:37
Kiloshaha18:37
mazalEnjoy the evening , sleep well18:37
Kiloslekker slaap jy18:38
mazalSeëninge18:38
Kilosdankie selle daar18:38
magespawnwhat does that mean Kilos?18:41
Kiloswhat magespawn 18:42
KilosGod bless18:42
magespawnSeëninge18:42
Kilosblessings18:42
magespawnah right18:42
nuvolario/ aloha18:48
nuvolarihi oom Kilos, magespawn 18:48
nuvolarioom Kilos, was apie around yet?18:48
Kiloslo nuvolari 18:48
magespawnhey nuvolari18:48
Kilosno18:48
Kiloswassup your 12.04.318:48
nuvolarimagespawn: poing18:49
nuvolari*pong18:49
Kiloshave you turned off boot splash so you can see where its battling18:49
magespawnlol Kilos said you were having problems is all18:49
nuvolariyup, I had a boot time (from bootchart) of about 250 seconds18:50
nuvolariwhich really worked on my nerves these days18:50
nuvolarioom Kilos I managed to bring it down to 86 seconds18:50
Kiloswhat did you find?18:50
nuvolariKilos: well, for some reason it complained that it's waiting for /tmp each time my lappy booted18:51
nuvolariI then saw I have like 12Gb of *cough* swap (talk about wasted space)18:51
Kilosmissing link18:51
nuvolariI then split 4Gb off that for /tmp18:51
Kiloswow18:51
nuvolariAnd I've disabled virtualbox, memcached, boinc-client, clamav-freshclam for starting up18:52
nuvolarithat's the only things I could see that I really don't need running18:53
nuvolarithere might be more to disable18:53
Kilosdisable boot splash and read the boot scripts or whatever they are called and see where it drags18:54
nuvolariyeah, that's what I did oom Kilos 18:55
Kilosbut still 8g ram is way too much18:55
Kilosah18:55
Kilosand run fsck and see if that finds anything18:55
nuvolariI need to back up my stuff and do proper partitioning at some stage18:56
Kilosi do that touch /forcefsck then it runs on next boot18:56
nuvolariI have everything in one big chunk18:56
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:28
Kilossee ya morrow19:28
Kilosnuvolari, dont be such a stranger19:29
magespawni am also off, lots of reading to do19:36
magespawngood night19:37
inetprohmm20:22

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