[05:28] <Kilos> morning all
[06:31] <nuvolari> mornings oom Kilos 
[06:31] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: ping
[06:40] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[06:40] <Kilos> apie away!
[06:40] <Kilos> hy sal jou ping sien vrydag
[06:49] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[06:51] <nuvolari> :O weg waarheen oom Kilos ?
[06:51] <Kilos> afk
[06:52] <Kilos> dis reg ne? away from keyboard
[06:52] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[06:52] <superfly> ohi Kilos
[06:57] <bduk1> Ah it works. Morning everyone
[07:11] <inetpro> good morning everyone
[07:11] <Vince-0> suro
[07:11] <Vince-0> surp*
[07:14] <Kilos> hi inetpro Vince-0 
[07:30] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[07:30] <mazal> More oom
[07:31] <mazal> Can I use UbuntuOne to sync my Documents folder at hom with work ?
[07:32] <Kilos> i think you choose what you want synced
[07:32] <mazal> Still looking for a solution to have the same docs on my home pc and work pc
[07:33] <Kilos> yeah must be, i synced just one folder on my desktop
[07:33] <Kilos> you choose the path if i remember right
[07:33] <mazal> How safe is UO ?
[07:34] <Kilos> i spose as safe as the rest of the ne
[07:34] <Kilos> Maaz, google how safe is ubuntu one
[07:34] <Maaz> Kilos: "[ubuntu] Is Ubuntu One secure? - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592610 :: "security - How safe is EU-based Ubuntu One cloud data? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/58821/how-safe-is-eu-based-ubuntu-one-cloud-data :: "security - How can I encrypt data in Ubuntu One or Dropbox? - Ask ..."
[07:34] <Maaz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/75377/how-can-i-encrypt-data-in-ubuntu-one-or-dropbox :: "UbuntuOne/Security - Ubuntu Wiki" …
[07:53] <mazal> So if I choose let's say Documents folder , it will sync that folder on both pc's and their server ? If I delete a file on one pc it will delete on the other one also ? Or will just upload it again from the other pc ?
[07:54] <Kilos> yip you just gotta tell it to sync from both or copy from u1 to the second one
[07:55] <Kilos> same username password should work with sync
[08:11] <mazal> What if the folders I select on pc 1 doesn't exist on pc two , will create them automatically ?
[08:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[08:34] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:35] <Kilos> 7 days
[08:35] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[08:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes indeed :)
[08:35] <Kilos> no mazal you make them then and it will sync to it
[08:35] <Kilos> nearly one hand only ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:36] <mazal> So I must still manually create all the folders on pc 2 ?
[08:36] <Kilos> not if you choose documents
[08:36] <Kilos> look at the options, i think you can sync your whole pc there
[08:37] <Kilos> i just wanted one folder so ian could get it
[08:38] <Kilos> then anything added or removed from that folder synced
[08:40] <Kilos> im not sure anymore but i think you can sync your /home there too
[08:40] <Kilos> size is 5g
[08:42] <mazal> How do I remove a folder that I added ?
[08:43] <Kilos> up there or on your pc
[08:43] <Kilos> somewhere in u1 there was a way to delete
[08:43] <mazal> There's no option , just a tick mark
[08:44] <mazal> I can't delete it completely it seems
[08:44] <Kilos> i forget what all was there, havent used for 6 months i think
[08:45] <Kilos> there was a way to delete them though because after ian had the OS i sent im sure i removed it to save space
[08:46] <Kilos> Maaz, google how to delete folders on ubuntuone
[08:46] <Maaz> Kilos: "Ubuntu One : Help : FAQs—How do I remove a folder I previously ..." https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/how-do-i-remove-a-folder-i-previously-selected-to-synchronize-with-ubuntu-one/ :: "Ubuntu One : Help" https://one.ubuntu.com/help/faq/ :: "How do I remove a folder from the Ubuntu One "Folders" tab - Ask ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/149124/how-
[08:46] <Maaz> do-i-remove-a-folder-from-the-ubuntu-one-folders-tab :: "How do I delete files/folders from Ubu…
[08:49] <Kilos> ohi smile 
[08:49] <smile> hi Kilos :D
[08:49] <Kilos> oh
[08:50] <Kilos> :-) :) :D <3 smileys for the week
[08:51] <smile> Yeah :(
[08:52] <smile> <3 is not supported on ChatZilla :p
[08:52] <Kilos> haha
[08:52] <Kilos> orks on mxit
[08:52] <Kilos> works too
[08:54] <smile> :)
[08:55]  * smile is working on Wikipedia
[08:55] <Kilos> good
[08:57] <mazal> Ag no man this is stupid , I can't find any way to remove a previously added folder :-(
[08:57] <Kilos> did you look at the links above mazal ?
[08:57] <mazal> Yep , doesn't work
[08:57] <Kilos> oh my
[08:58] <Kilos> leave it there empty then
[08:58] <mazal> I can't even add Documents now because there is a previously added folder Documents/Linux_Dox
[08:58] <mazal> Now I can't add documents cause it overlaps
[08:58] <Kilos> maybe rename when you have another one you wanna add
[08:58] <mazal> Stupid thing
[08:58] <mazal> I want to add the whole documents
[08:58] <Kilos> hehe
[08:58] <Kilos> there are guys that can help
[08:59] <mazal> There this thing fails even before I start
[08:59] <Kilos>  just /j #ubuntuone
[08:59] <Kilos> i also battled to start off
[09:00] <Kilos> its because we dont understand it
[09:00] <mazal> Why not have just a simple remove button
[09:00] <mazal> It's so simple , but nooooo
[09:00] <Kilos> so other peeps cant remove your stuff
[09:00] <Kilos> hehe
[09:01] <Kilos> ask at #ubuntuone mazal they will help you
[09:01] <Kilos> dont get frustrated
[09:03] <Kilos> how big is your documents folder?
[09:03] <mazal> I'm so gatvol of crap that don't work in these so called modern OS's
[09:03] <Kilos> hehe no man it will work
[09:04] <Kilos> take a deep breathe relax and think it out or ask for help from the boffs
[09:14] <Kilos> oh my netsplits again
[09:14] <Kilos> biiiig one
[09:14] <mazal> Installing Chrome now to see if the buttons on site will work with that
[09:15] <mazal> It doesn't with Firefox
[09:15] <Kilos> oh do you see the buttons
[09:15] <mazal> Nope , they don't work
[09:15] <Kilos> grayed out but
[09:15] <Kilos> upgrade your ubuntuone
[09:16] <mazal> Aparently Ubuntu One client is to dumb to have a remove button and you can only do it on their website
[09:16] <mazal> But on their website nothing works
[09:16] <Kilos> ai!
[09:17] <mazal> So I hope it's a firefox thing ( which would also be really stupid as it's the Ubuntu default browser )
[09:17] <mazal> If it is their site , then I can't do a simple task like that
[09:18] <Kilos> then ask them they will fix it
[09:18] <mazal> And worse , I can't continue cos I can't add the needed folder :-(
[09:19] <Kilos> why?
[09:19] <mazal> Because it complains that the current one overlaps the new one
[09:19] <Kilos> look for a rethedocs thing
[09:19] <Kilos> or a manual or userguide
[09:19] <Kilos> readthedocs
[09:20] <mazal> Only thing that will work it seems is to remove the current folder on their site in the cloud
[09:20] <mazal> The client can't do it
[09:20] <mazal> And on their site the button that must open that option doesn't work
[09:21] <mazal> Gonna try chrome now
[09:21] <Kilos> wb inetpro_ 
[09:21] <Kilos> and others
[09:22] <Kilos> ok
[09:22] <charl> good morning
[09:22] <charl> hi Kilos, mazal 
[09:22] <Kilos> hi charl 
[09:22] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[09:22] <psyatw> hi mazal
[09:22] <psyatw> hi charl
[09:22] <Kilos> you just missed the netsplits
[09:22] <psyatw> and everyone else who is back
[09:22] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[09:23] <charl> hi psyatw 
[09:23] <charl> it is raining cats and dogs
[09:24] <Kilos> ah cheap pets for sale again
[09:24] <mazal> Fails with chrome also
[09:24] <Kilos> then tell them their site is broken
[09:25] <charl> lol Kilos 
[09:26] <mazal> Ok check this out , after installing chrome it works in firefox ????????
[09:26] <Kilos> hahaha see the prob is by you
[09:27] <mazal> No way
[09:28] <mazal> Chrome prob added something to make firefox work
[09:28] <mazal> How silly is that
[09:30] <mazal> I would just make it way more user friendly and add a remove button to the folders in the UO client if I were them
[09:31] <Kilos> haha see frustrated for nothing
[09:32] <Kilos> the remove might not be there because peeps share there too
[09:33] <mazal> Remove must defnitely be in the client as well
[09:33] <mazal> You should have all functions in the client that you have on site
[09:34] <Kilos> that might be for if other peeps use your pc
[09:34] <Kilos> so they cant remove your stuff
[09:34] <mazal> I think it has more to do with id10t errors maybe
[09:40] <mazal> The way I understand these settings , it should create new folders ( inside the shared folder ) automatically at pc 2 ?
[09:41] <Kilos> maybe, keep notes so you can tell the next guy how to
[09:45] <mazal> It's easy , install chrome to get firefox to work :-P
[09:45] <mazal> And DO NOT add any folders until you are 100% which top one will be in a sync
[09:49] <mazal> Oh boy , now how do I stop this thing ? Want it to run at home first
[09:49] <mazal> Clicking on disconnect yields no result
[09:49] <Kilos> lol
[09:50] <mazal> Dissie snaaksie :-P Ek sukkel
[09:50] <Kilos> dont stop things while they working
[09:50] <mazal> Now I got it going and can't stop it
[09:50] <Kilos> youll end up with corrupt stuffs
[09:50] <mazal> It must run at home first
[09:51] <mazal> Yay it disconnected !
[09:51] <Kilos> no man dont matter which way
[09:51] <Kilos> you wanna sync so both are the same
[09:52] <mazal> Faster line there oom , want the upway sync there and the downway sync here
[09:52] <Kilos> so what matters which way it starts
[09:52] <mazal> Just to get both updated first
[09:53] <mazal> Basically I need to get the cloud up to date first , will be faster at home with the much faster line
[09:53] <mazal> Then the cloud can update this one on the better dl speed than ul speed
[09:53] <Kilos> ah
[09:53] <Kilos> yeah upload speeds suck
[11:17] <inetpro> dankie Kilos
[12:28] <mazal> Lekker aand almal
[12:28] <mazal> Bye
[12:29] <mazal> Oom Kilos , ek "dink" ek het UO reg. Sal more eers weet na die syncs
[12:29] <mazal> bye
[12:30] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:06] <not_found> *yawn*
[13:06] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[13:06]  * Kilos yawning too
[13:07] <not_found> it is contagious ....
[13:07] <not_found> hi uncle Kilos
[13:15] <not_found> How is sunny SA today?
[13:25] <Kilos> oh so lekker not_found 29°c inna sun thats why im yawning
[13:25] <Kilos> been baking a bit
[13:34] <not_found> that is nice... a cool summers day :)
[15:37] <Kilos> nuvolari, have you fixed your slow boot?
[16:43] <magespawn> good evening
[16:56] <magespawn> hello Kilos 
[16:56] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[16:57] <psychicist> good evening magespawn 
[16:57] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[16:57] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[16:57] <magespawn> hi psychicist 
[17:02] <Kilos> so what did you do today magespawn 
[17:02] <Kilos> this no good with you away all day
[17:04] <magespawn> lots of new things
[17:06] <magespawn> they have an asterisk server running on CentOS managing their incoming and out going calls
[17:06] <Kilos> lol
[17:07] <Kilos> at least its linux
[17:07] <magespawn> yup indeed 
[17:12] <magespawn> lots of learning ahead
[17:13] <Kilos> yeah looks like
[17:13] <Kilos> its just remembering the diffs
[17:13] <Kilos> yum this and yum that
[17:13] <magespawn> deep end learning
[17:14] <magespawn> its all yummy
[17:14] <Kilos> hehe
[17:15] <Kilos> youll have to join centos-za
[17:16] <Kilos> or wake nuvo up
[17:16] <Kilos> he is having slow boot probs on 12.0
[17:16] <Kilos> 12.04
[17:17] <Kilos> most likely looking for something it cant find
[17:25] <magespawn> maybe
[17:29] <magespawn> nuvolari: ping
[17:30] <Kilos> we need to jump on him
[17:30] <Kilos> he asks for help at g+
[17:31] <magespawn> you are allowed to do that
[17:31] <Kilos> lol ya but here first
[17:32] <Kilos> so i can see how its cured
[17:33] <magespawn> if i know where he is asking then i can bring it here
[17:33] <Kilos> i just saw it in an email
[17:34] <Kilos> and shame no one seems to be able to help that deon guy
[17:34] <Kilos> with xl2tpd 
[17:35] <Kilos> he dont even come here anymore
[17:35] <Kilos> sigh
[17:42] <Kilos> hi stegreen mazal 
[17:42] <mazal> Lo oom
[17:43] <Kilos> magespawn, maybe if nuvo turns off boot splash he will see whats making it take so long
[17:43] <Kilos> werk jou u1
[17:44] <magespawn> might be busy
[17:45] <Kilos> hehe he said its takes 252secs i think it was
[17:45] <Kilos> i read mails and delete them
[17:46] <mazal> Myne oom ?
[17:46] <Kilos> nee nuvo sin
[17:46] <Kilos> o en ja is jou u1 werkend mazal 
[17:46] <Kilos> skuus man
[17:47] <mazal> Yep mine synced at home without a problem , will see tomorrow at work when it needs to sync down to that pc
[17:47] <Kilos> of moet jy chrome instaleer om firefox te laat werk
[17:47] <Kilos> haha
[17:47] <Kilos> thats good, see you got angry for nothing
[17:48] <Kilos> clever peeps made ubuntuone
[17:52] <Kilos> i wish i could use that 5g space to host my bot
[17:59] <mazal> Not for nothing , still say it's stupid not to have a remove folder option in the client
[18:00] <mazal> I think that is prob the number 1 request they are getting
[18:00] <Kilos> there must be a valid reason
[18:00] <mazal> Mind you , lets see if my firefox at home works on their site
[18:01] <Kilos> i remember having to go to their site to do a coupla things
[18:02] <mazal> At home firefox works
[18:02] <mazal> I also tested the shared folder with a friend thing
[18:02] <Kilos> lol
[18:02] <mazal> Now THAT is handy :-)
[18:02] <Kilos> yeah thats what i used
[18:02] <mazal> No more sending Barry email with attachments whenever I need to send him something
[18:05] <Kilos> at least we can mail linux stuff. i tried with win stuff a coupla times and was refused
[18:05] <Kilos> .exe's i think they were
[18:07] <mazal> Ya but Windooze is so insecure and scared you can't even let yourself in
[18:07] <Kilos> lol
[18:08] <Kilos> found a thing called mailbigfile that works i spose like dropbox inna way and that accepts win stuff
[18:12] <mazal> Just zip the win stuff first
[18:13] <Kilos> im sure the mail client still sees the exe insid
[18:13] <mazal> Rename it to .dat
[18:13] <Kilos> lol
[18:13] <mazal> or .anything for that matter
[18:14] <magespawn> yup they are blocking the .exe
[18:14] <mazal> We do it at work. Zip the file and rename to .dat
[18:15] <magespawn> hi mazal
[18:15] <mazal> Hi magespawn , hows things ?
[18:15] <magespawn> good, goot some hectic learning ahead of me but all good, and you?
[18:16] <mazal> Busy but ok thanx
[18:16] <mazal> And being tested by all things technology :P
[18:16] <magespawn> busy is very good
[18:16] <magespawn> in a good way? the testing i mean
[18:20] <mazal> Nope , patience being tested
[18:23] <magespawn> sometimes it is your lack of understanding, other times it is obtuse software design (most of the time)
[18:31] <mazal> Just played with the "share link" feature on 1 file on U1. That is also very handy. No more 3rd party file upload sites
[18:31] <mazal> I like that you get a link that anyone can dl the file even if they don't have an U1 account
[18:32] <Kilos> yeah its a handy 5g inna sky
[18:33] <mazal> And that specific feature is build-in to nautilus , very easy and handy
[18:33] <mazal> Don't even need to go to a site
[18:33] <Kilos> lol
[18:34] <mazal> It's like , share , copy link , done
[18:34] <magespawn> this is a pretty cool idea https://ifttt.com/wtf
[18:37] <mazal> Ok guys , enough fiddling for one night me thinks. Netnou breek ek iets
[18:37] <Kilos> haha
[18:37] <mazal> Enjoy the evening , sleep well
[18:38] <Kilos> lekker slaap jy
[18:38] <mazal> Seëninge
[18:38] <Kilos> dankie selle daar
[18:41] <magespawn> what does that mean Kilos?
[18:42] <Kilos> what magespawn 
[18:42] <Kilos> God bless
[18:42] <magespawn> Seëninge
[18:42] <Kilos> blessings
[18:42] <magespawn> ah right
[18:48] <nuvolari> o/ aloha
[18:48] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos, magespawn 
[18:48] <nuvolari> oom Kilos, was apie around yet?
[18:48] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[18:48] <magespawn> hey nuvolari
[18:48] <Kilos> no
[18:48] <Kilos> wassup your 12.04.3
[18:49] <nuvolari> magespawn: poing
[18:49] <nuvolari> *pong
[18:49] <Kilos> have you turned off boot splash so you can see where its battling
[18:49] <magespawn> lol Kilos said you were having problems is all
[18:50] <nuvolari> yup, I had a boot time (from bootchart) of about 250 seconds
[18:50] <nuvolari> which really worked on my nerves these days
[18:50] <nuvolari> oom Kilos I managed to bring it down to 86 seconds
[18:50] <Kilos> what did you find?
[18:51] <nuvolari> Kilos: well, for some reason it complained that it's waiting for /tmp each time my lappy booted
[18:51] <nuvolari> I then saw I have like 12Gb of *cough* swap (talk about wasted space)
[18:51] <Kilos> missing link
[18:51] <nuvolari> I then split 4Gb off that for /tmp
[18:51] <Kilos> wow
[18:52] <nuvolari> And I've disabled virtualbox, memcached, boinc-client, clamav-freshclam for starting up
[18:53] <nuvolari> that's the only things I could see that I really don't need running
[18:53] <nuvolari> there might be more to disable
[18:54] <Kilos> disable boot splash and read the boot scripts or whatever they are called and see where it drags
[18:55] <nuvolari> yeah, that's what I did oom Kilos 
[18:55] <Kilos> but still 8g ram is way too much
[18:55] <Kilos> ah
[18:55] <Kilos> and run fsck and see if that finds anything
[18:56] <nuvolari> I need to back up my stuff and do proper partitioning at some stage
[18:56] <Kilos> i do that touch /forcefsck then it runs on next boot
[18:56] <nuvolari> I have everything in one big chunk
[19:28] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:28] <Kilos> see ya morrow
[19:29] <Kilos> nuvolari, dont be such a stranger
[19:36] <magespawn> i am also off, lots of reading to do
[19:37] <magespawn> good night
[20:22] <inetpro> hmm