[00:00] <walterwoj> upd: http://pastebin.com/fXwdefps -- ifconfig
[00:01] <rscnt> hi
[00:01] <rscnt> someone with the uefi problem?
[00:01] <mr-rich-76> How can determine what region my dvd drive is  set to?
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | rscnt many
[00:01] <rscnt> /dev/sr0?
[00:02] <walterwoj> upd: http://pastebin.com/JwxGQVtw -- iwconfig
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> rscnt, State in detail your problem for help to the channel.
[00:02] <walterwoj> hope that helps
[00:02] <mr-rich-76> rscnt: well, /dev/dvd  points there ...
[00:03] <upd> walterwoj what does sudo ifconfig eth0 up say
[00:03] <rscnt> oh right
[00:04] <walterwoj> upd: not a thing, no output
[00:06] <walterwoj> upd:  'sudo ifconfig eht0' says: http://pastebin.com/6pwApFaR
[00:06] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, well anyways I'm here if you need anymore advice later
[00:06] <walterwoj> the fist time i used the 'up' part too.
[00:06] <Geo> how do i boot from cd? my new hp g7-2317c1 laptop wont let me :( it has windows 8 and i dont want to use windows
[00:07] <daftykins> walterwoj: that interface appears ipv6 enabled only, is that what you're after?
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Geo check here for some info
[00:07] <walterwoj> no,I just want normal conncetions
[00:07] <Geo> thanks
[00:07] <daftykins> walterwoj: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ? is this connection being managed by network manager?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> Geo, That computer has a new and different partitioning setup, so be aware.
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> and chip and bios as well
[00:09] <Geo> wilee thats fine i want the OS and the partitioning wiped so i can run linux
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> Geo, Don't we all, however that may not be that easy, with this new setup.
[00:10] <daftykins> no we don't all
[00:10] <daftykins> :>
[00:10] <walterwoj> daftykins: not currently managed after upd's trick.  "auto lo \n iface lo inet loopback \n\n iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[00:11] <daftykins> walterwoj: hrmm ok nope that seems normal. ok maybe something he's had you do has affected everything, i didn't scroll up and read everything
[00:12] <gblazer> wilee-nilee: i want to run httperf against nginx access log and preserve origin request headers. can't find a way to do it
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> Geo, We see people here who wipe it all and try and install ubuntu with these uefi setups, the uefi fastboot is attached to the chip and bios, I'm not sure just wiping windows is the best option, so be careful, not many here really know.
[00:12] <walterwoj> He had me delete my net.rules and reboot, that unmanaged everything, all the rest has just been output from sys files.
[00:13] <usingphrik> oh shit walterwoj
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> gblazer, I know nothing about that, how ever what I do know is that details are what get responses here.
[00:13] <usingphrik> that sucks
[00:13] <FloodBot1> usingphrik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <Geo> ok
[00:13] <daftykins> gblazer: try an nginx channel
[00:13] <upd> the main problem is *-network DISABLED
[00:13] <upd>        description: Ethernet interface
[00:13] <usingphrik> oh ok
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> usingphrik, Please don't swear.
[00:13] <usingphrik> wilee-nilee: what did i do?
[00:14] <usingphrik> wait don't ban me, im banned from ubuntu-offtopic
[00:14] <walterwoj> upd: forgive my noobieness but how do I fix that?
[00:14] <Raniris> .
[00:15] <upd> walterwoj, when you write lsmod is there a tulip ?
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> Geo, Here some more info, and really this mod is the best help, if I were you I would start a thread at the UF and have uefi in the header, they will stop by and help you. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[00:16] <walterwoj> upd yes
[00:16] <upd> walterwoj, sudo dhclient eth0
[00:16] <walterwoj> upd, I looked at the logs, that device is the new network card, not the old one i lost
[00:16] <sander__> WHats the channel of ubuntu edge?
[00:17] <upd> walterwoj, usb device also not working ?
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> !touch | sander__ there is no edge anymore
[00:17] <walterwoj> upd: it said I invoked it wrong and should use the reload utility instaed
[00:18] <walterwoj> upd: usb0 is my phone that I connected after restart when everything went unmanaged so I could chat here.
[00:19] <upd> walterwoj, did you put the .backup back to old one ?
[00:19] <walterwoj> yes
[00:19] <walterwoj> but no change, do I need to reboot again?
[00:20] <walterwoj> or rather, i tried cp a b and that should have copied the old one over the new one right?
[00:21] <upd> yes
[00:21] <sander__> wilee-nilee, What's the channel of ubuntu mobile os then?
[00:22] <sander__> wilee-nilee, is that touch?
[00:22] <Pici> !touch
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> sander__, I gave you the channel for that stuff, what is ubuntu mobile?
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> It's the touch and the saucy desktop
[00:23] <sander__> wilee-nilee, sorry for me not remembering the terms. But I want to install ubuntu on my android phone.
[00:23] <TsarObomba> #ubuntu-touch
[00:23] <sander__> Ok, thanks! :)
[00:23] <TsarObomba> its far from done, and if your phone is cdma it will never work for calls/data
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> yep that be true
[00:26] <walterwoj> upd: was that a yes-reboot or a yes, I restored it properly?
[00:27] <upd> if you allready reboot after cp old new there is no need for reboot again
[00:27] <walterwoj> sorry, i didn't reboot after restoring,  rebooting now, BRB
[00:27] <Retroballa> Yeah I read a quick review of how there were the same thing found in multiple places on ubuntu mobile. Looks good if they get teh UI working better. Looks interesting
[00:28] <upd> walterwoj, ok
[00:28] <walterwoj> upd: this is the output of vi 70-perstistent-net.rules
[00:29] <walterwoj> upd: http://pastebin.com/CyXDa1QW
[00:29] <Retroballa> I was curoius. Is there a good disc image program designed to backup the bootloader plus the hardrive that contains ubuntu? Win 8 is on my other hard drive
[00:32] <marklar> Howdy! I hope I'm not interrupting a conversation, I'm new to IRC, but looking at the log, I think I'm safe. I'm having trouble getting XDMCP working with Ubuntu 12.04, and was wondering if anyone could help. I am able to connect, but receive a black screen. Google/DuckDuckGo have not yielded any helpful results.
[00:33] <walterwoj> updok, I'm back, and I have regained my wireless and secondary ethernet connectrions
[00:33] <upd> walterwoj cool
[00:33] <walterwoj> upd: any thoughts on the eth0 issue?
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> Retroballa, clonezilla works nicely whole HD's or partions, saves the mbr
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> partitions*
[00:35] <asduk> hello
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> ah windows 8, should work in general
[00:35] <asduk> what are the best deskplets for system monitoring
[00:35] <upd> walterwoj so is eth0 now there what does ifconfig eth0 up say, and try ifconfig eth0 dhclient
[00:35] <DarnFake> asl
[00:37] <Retroballa> I found a program called cronopete, but I guess thats not exactly what I had in mind
[00:37] <walterwoj> upd: eth0 is not there, eth1 is and ifconfig eth0 says device not found.
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> Retroballa, The windows 8 inclusion makes it a bit more complex, If it were me I would make sure what ever you use actually works.
[00:38] <upd> walterwoj, then do ifconfig eth1 up
[00:39] <Retroballa> yeah, I try to keep windows and linux on seprate hard drives. I never ilked them to be on the same drive
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> Retroballa, That is the least of your problem. The uefi thankg is the hitch
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> thang*
[00:40] <walterwoj> 'sudo ifconfig eth1 up' gives me nada, 'sudo ifconfig eth1' shows the proper card (the one i added today)
[00:41] <Retroballa> I may try clonezilla. Even if I have to redo ubuntu for whatever reason, If I had a backup of it then I can leave the bootloader alone, just restore the image to the drive linux is on
[00:43] <konnyboy> hello
[00:45] <upd_> walterwoj okey i give up, the module seems okey no error in dmesg, as if this happend after upgrade the tulip module has a bug, or something is misconfigured
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> Retroballa, I don't believe the bootloader is in the mbr is all, be sure you know where.
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> Retroballa, YOu could run the bootscript for more info in general.
[00:47] <walterwoj> upd: thanks a lot, I have the seconary card working now and I can live with that for the moment.  Thanks a lot for your help!!!!!! I'm going to bed now...
[00:47] <upd> walterwoj, no problem
[00:48] <hfase> whats the best way to reinstall everything needed for ubuntu-desktop?
[00:48] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> hfase, Context?
[00:49] <hfase> was running gmome3 and it just crashed.
[00:49] <hfase> with a recent update
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> hfase, the gnome-shell? the ubuntu desktop run on gnome 3 did you remove it?
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> hfase, This involve a PPA? and answer other questions
[00:51] <hfase> I did remove both. I dont think i used a ppa, i will try what you said first
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> hfase, I gave no instructions, just asked questions
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> hfase, You have tried to remove desktops, these are meta packages, this has to done correctly, and from what I can tell you have not done this.
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> to be*
[00:57] <Retroballa> hmm, anyone have the correct path to the correct PPA for nvidia drivers
[00:59] <dakotawulfy> Retroballa  have u tried to run jockey-gtk
[01:00] <audrey> any way to sort rhythmbox playlists by genre?
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> Retroballa, for the record ppa's are not supported here.
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> Retroballa, try running software-properties-gtk   and look at additional drivers
[01:02] <Retroballa> sorry wilee I did not know
[01:02] <dakotawulfy> Retroballa  jockey-gtk  will help you install the nvidia
[01:03] <dakotawulfy> Retroballa is a easy gui  for the drivers
[01:03] <Retroballa> thanks dak. I'll look into it
[01:03] <rahul_> Hii all
[01:03] <rahul_> I could not mount my external harddisk in ubuntu 12.04
[01:03] <rahul_> it is asking for specify type
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> what kind of filesystem is the drive? whats the exact command you are using to mount it
[01:04] <NeGoTUX> helow
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> hellooo:   please dont spam me in pm.
[01:06] <Rallias> Is it possible to encrypt my hard disk drive in such a way that I have to SSH into my host to enter the encryption key?
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> Rallias:  that would be a neat trick
[01:07] <Rallias> Ooop, found it. I can use dropbear and do it.
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> if the whole disk is encrypted.. how is it going to run anything? ;)
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> disaster waiting, people screw up straight encrypts
[01:08] <dheeraj> I could not mount my external harddisk in ubuntu 12.04
[01:08] <dheeraj> it is asking for specify type
[01:08] <Rallias> Dr_Willis, Well, /boot
[01:08] <midnightcruz> ;o
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> audrey, There is a genre and artists box in preferences.
[01:09] <Rallias> Dr_Willis, It's with a hostmaster that I'd trust ultimately.
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> dheeraj:  what kind of filesystem is the drive? whats the exact command you are using to mount it
[01:10] <Rallias> It's just it's intended to be a mail relay host to one that has an encrypted storage unit, so I'd like to have that inch and a half of additional security.
[01:10] <dheeraj> Dr_Willis: i used mount -t ntfs
[01:10] <dheeraj> but in gparted it is showing unknown filesystem
[01:10] <Kalel> Night All..
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> dheeraj:  what was the rest of the mount command?  its possible the fs is currupted. or hd has failed also. You may want to check it in windows
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> dheeraj:  its not using any sort of truecrypt or other fancy encryption is it?
[01:11] <Kalel> I'd like to know if I can change onlly the volume indicator of the gtk theme?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  you mean the icon image on the panel?
[01:12] <lucidium> I'm thinking about installing intrepid so I can run the legacy fglrx drivers, so how much functionality would I lose? Could I still install the latest versions of say, mythtv?
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> !intrepid
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> lucidium:  it would be a 5 year old OS. i doubt if you would be able to get teh latest of anything on it
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> mythtv has a MAJOR set of dependencies.
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> i cant really think of anything more complex then Mythtv really ;)
[01:13] <lucidium> alright. I guess the radeon drivers will have to do then, they are slightly disappointing though.
[01:13] <dheeraj> previously that harddisk was running in my laptop wit SUse installed on it
[01:13] <esde> getting my first dedicated unmanaged server soon, is there some sort of guide on things to do? like to harden the system and such?
[01:13] <cjwelborn> kkkkkkkkkkk'
[01:14] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: When i change the coltrol volume, appear a little square from the gtk theme with the volume symbol. I want to change it for 'ambience' 'cuz has the loding little bar, and the entire theme as ' faience'.
[01:14] <Kalel> *control
[01:14] <sordidbass> Radeon graphics support on linux kind of blows all around...
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> you could always make your own theme set  i guess.. ive never seen a way to change just the single icon of it
[01:15] <Kalel> The Faience theme hasn't the little 'loding' or 'level' volume bar.
[01:15] <dheeraj> Dr_Willis: i dont hav windows..??
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> dheeraj:  theres windows dvd/iso recovery disks.
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> dheeraj:  why did you format it to ntfs then if you dont have windows? :)
[01:16] <cockatiel> hi
[01:16] <cockatiel> anyone want to talk?
[01:16] <dheeraj> Dr_Willis: But i have some data in it
[01:17] <dheeraj> :(
[01:17] <dakotawulfy> Kalel u can find that icon in the theme have the same size icon and change that icon to that name  might work
[01:18] <Diamondcite> hellooo: is spamming in PM
[01:18] <dheeraj> Diamondcite: yes
[01:18] <dakotawulfy> Kalel that would let u change that icon might have to rest icon cache to make it show up right if it does not
[01:18] <Kalel> dakotawulfy: Do you know which square I mean? Appear in the center of the screen. GTK theme is responsible for that. Were can I find the file to change it? Can I use two themes once?
[01:18] <worrow> Hello all. i am running latest rhythmbox and was wondering if there was a fix for sync to ipod resulting in the song not showing on the ipod. Sync show to have gone well and song was added in list in rhythmbox though.
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> dheeraj:  well the disk seems currupted or dead. you could try using ddrescue to image it to a file. and try to recovery from that file. Putting the hd in a windows box. or trying a windows live cd/dvd may let you recovery the data also.
[01:20] <dakotawulfy> Kalel ok sorry thought  you wanted to change an  icon in a theme
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  you may want to post a screenshot. :)  im not sure what you are trying to change
[01:22] <sordidbass> So how man of you refuse to run non-LTS releases?
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> sordidbass:  i basically only run NON-Lts. ;)
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> except for the 6 mo when the LTS happens to be the latest release
[01:23] <sordidbass> Dr_Willis: blasphemy!
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> i dont see much use for a normal home user to limit theirselfs to lts
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> at least with this round of LTS - they are trying to keep the kernel and X and stuff updated better.
[01:23] <sordidbass> i manage to break every non-LTS release
[01:23] <sordidbass> or get horribly annoyed at how unstable they can be :)
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> cant say i really manage to break lts or non-lts
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> cant say i find them unstable either. ;)
[01:24] <sordidbass> I just did a fresh install of 12.04.3, was actually surprised to see a newer kernel
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> Yep the whole x.x.03 is handy
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> hard to keep everyone happy. but newer hardware is changeing so much.  it would be hard to keep LTS running on stuff that came out.. today. if they dident.
[01:27] <trism> Kalel: if it is in the center of the screen it sounds like the gnome-settings-daemon osd...which seems to use audio-volume-*-symbolic for icons, I have them here in the Faenza theme
[01:27] <TsarObomba> anyone using -pf or liquorix?
[01:27] <Kalel> I'm trying to paste a screenshot..
[01:27] <Kalel> trism: Is exactely that.
[01:28] <trism> Kalel: you get that if you aren't using notify-osd, otherwise you will get one in the top right corner with the rest of the notifications
[01:28] <TsarObomba> ummm staff
[01:29] <TsarObomba> !ops hellooo is pm spamming odd links
[01:29] <Kalel> trism: Do you know hot to set, for example: I am using Faience gtk theme. I want the Ambience's notifications, Included the 'volume osd...
[01:29] <TsarObomba> if you'd like proof i dont mind providing it, just not in channel
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> TsarObomba, show them to #ubuntu-ops or #freenode
[01:30] <TsarObomba> wilee-nilee: `ubottu caught it and forwarded it apparently
[01:30] <TsarObomba> and freenode never cares
[01:30] <TsarObomba> they say "use /ignore"
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> TsarObomba, Yes they do, they will ban them
[01:30] <TsarObomba> no, they really dont
[01:30] <TsarObomba> been there, done that
[01:30] <trism> Kalel: make sure you have the scalable audio-volume-muted-symbolic audio-volume-low-symbolic audio-volume-medium-symbolic and audio-volume-high-symbolic in your theme
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> and you are spamming the channel even worse  with the ranting.
[01:30] <trism> Kalel: you might need need to add some links to other icons
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> depends on the sapm
[01:31] <Kalel> trism: Ok. Can you help me a little more?
[01:31]  * wilee-nilee blocks all pm's and invites
[01:32]  * Dr_Willis invites wilee-nilee  over for dinner.
[01:32] <IdleOne> wilee-nilee: thanks for sharing the irrelevant info with the entire channel.
[01:32] <IdleOne> Dr_Willis: thanks for helping to continue the off topic comments
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> I mentioned hellooo 's pm on join spam earlier also.
[01:33] <trism> Kalel: it looks like the only icon you can theme in osd is the volume one, I don't see the brightness/eject, etc (could be wrong though)
[01:33] <TsarObomba> jeeez, ops here are rude
[01:33] <Kalel> trism: How can I paste a screenshot easuly?
[01:34] <IdleOne> TsarObomba: chit chat elsewhere, and thank you for you help.
[01:34] <trism> !screenshot | Kalel
[01:34] <Kalel> easily..
[01:34] <TsarObomba> IdleOne: sure thing
[01:35] <Kalel> trism: http://imagebin.org/270408 - note the volume thing..
[01:36] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: ^
[01:36] <dakotawulfy> trism would it be easier to just rename the icon  take the ones he want and rename them to the same name  ?
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> if that OSD icon image even  comes from an editable icon. cant say ive ever noticed it or tried to chagne it.. askubuntu.com may know how. or if its even possible
[01:37] <Kalel> hmm...
[01:37] <Kalel> dakotawulfy: How to do that without compromise the themes?
[01:37] <Kalel> Looks plausible..
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> if its part of the gnome stuff. it might not be editable. it might be in the code.
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> this is in gnome-shell or gnome classic mode?
[01:39] <trism> Kalel: ahh you're in gnome-shell, that may be drawn by the shell...though it may still have the same name as the one in gnome-settings-daemon
[01:39] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: Shell.
[01:39] <trism> dakotawulfy: yeah I would probably just add some symbolic links to the names he needs, the problem is figuring out the names
[01:40] <Kalel> trism: It just change when I change the gtk theme. With the Ambience theme, I have other style. Most beautiful..
[01:40] <dakotawulfy> trism what about going to that theme icons and look and match them up
[01:41] <Kalel> Probably, the better way is let like 'as is'..
[01:41] <Konigsberg7> this is wierd im stuck at stopping userspace bootsplash when i boot into xubuntu
[01:41] <Konigsberg7> and nothing is happening
[01:41] <Konigsberg7> i can move my mouse around
[01:41] <Konigsberg7> cant type
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> Konigsberg7, user space splash, is this the desktop?
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> login?
[01:42] <Konigsberg7> i think i found a fix
[01:43] <trism> Kalel: can you add a screenshot with the other theme?
[01:43] <dakotawulfy> Kalel when i have a theme i like i use it if i want to change a few icons i will go find the ones i want and replace them with the ones i like just save the original one then u have it.
[01:45] <Kalel> trism: dakotawulfy; Note the little orange bar.. http://imagebin.org/270409
[01:46] <trism> Kalel: oh the bar is not an icon it would be a color in the theme
[01:47] <Kalel> trism: Is gtk theme configurable?
[01:48] <Kalel> trism: You see all my problems because a little beautifull bar..
[01:49] <dakotawulfy> that would be in the gtk 3 theme right  the easy way to do that is open gimp get the color number then search for that number in the  the theme config  and change it to what u want
[01:49] <Kalel> dakotawulfy: I will try..
[01:50] <dakotawulfy> if you chose the color thing should let u pick the color  click on that bar
[01:51] <roachmmflhyr> I have chrooted a user but added symbolic links to other files in the filesystem, but I only want them to have access to what I have symbolicly link to them, my problem is that when they change directories into the symbolic link they can "break out of the jail" by cd to .. how do I send them back to their home directory
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> are you using 'bash' or 'rbash' for their shell?
[01:52] <Connor> Hey guys..  I'm having a issue with a system.  I have a RAID 1 setup.. and one of the drives has failed (originally sda1).  I've pulled the disk.. trying to boot up.. and get a blinking currsor
[01:52] <crianca> hi
[01:52] <roachmmflhyr> Dr_Willis, bash
[01:52] <trism> Kalel: think dakotawulfy had the right idea, I see it in /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-3.0/gtk-widgets.css in the progress bar theme
[01:52] <Connor> I know something is wrong with grub2 (12.04 lts server).. Can anyone help ?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> roachmmflhyr:  you might want to look into rbash, i recall it being used by others in here wanting to lock down users.
[01:52] <levi_w> hi
[01:53] <DMGrier> levi_w: hello and welcome
[01:53] <Connor> I have a /boot and / partition.
[01:53] <levi_w> thank you
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> Connor:  a /boot and / are common.  give us details  as to the problem. theres also the various fixgrub wiki pages that have guides
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[01:54] <Kalel> Got it. I will compare both and make the change..
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> Connor, You can reload and or purge and reinstall grub, not sure that is the problem in general with a raid failure.
[01:55] <dakotawulfy> Kalel  you can use gimp to match any color  on screen the use that number  to get the color you want
[01:56] <Kalel> Ok.. The same Ambience's color will match with the faience claire details..
[01:56] <Connor> yes, I know they're common.  RAID1, /dev/mapper/System-boot  /dev/mapper/System-Data,  sda is dead sdb is fine.. I can see the file system just fine via rescue disk
[01:56] <Connor> I've booted up in rescue. mounted and chrooted /
[01:57] <Connor> mounted boot, and then issued a update-grub
[01:57] <Connor> but.. when I reboot.. it still just hangs with a blinking cursor.
[01:57] <roachmmflhyr> Dr_Willis, seems to only occur when the user is ftp'd into the server
[01:58] <roachmmflhyr> Dr_Willis, when the user is ssh'd in they cd .. back to their home dir
[01:58] <ObrienDave> Connor:::  Any external USB drives attached?
[01:58] <Connor> No. Just the USB CDROM
[01:58] <Connor> but, not when I'm booting.
[01:58] <Connor> only when booting into rescue disk
[01:59] <Kalel> dakotawulfy: The .css file is so much big. I can't find the right place to change.. Yet..
[01:59] <ghena1986>  http://bit.ly/183GBEv
[02:00] <Kalel> trism: Where did you found it?
[02:00] <z3r03z> hello
[02:00] <trism> Kalel: line 1234 in my version
[02:00] <Kalel> trism: Line?
[02:00] <trism> Kalel: background-color: #db6a3c;
[02:01] <papito> is there some tool to rescue files? i was editing a java file, and forgot to plug the cable cord to the power.. the 3 files had open were lost. next time i opened them were only were invalid characters not belonging to any encoding. i try to browse for eclipse local history to get the latest saved version.. but miserably eclipse doesnt show local history.. if i dont recover these files, ive lost my today's work :'(
[02:01] <Kalel> trism: gedit or nano?
[02:01] <trism> Kalel: in the .progressbar {} styles
[02:02] <candypants> hi can anyone help me to get my wifi working, i cant connect to my AP but i can eifi tether off my phone just fine.
[02:02] <trism> Kalel: vim, might be on a different line if you have a different version of light-themes
[02:03] <ObrienDave> candypants::: reboot the AP
[02:04] <trism> Kalel: this is what the section looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/6086045/ there is also one more reference to that color lower down, .level-bar.fill-block {} but progressbar sounds closer to me, though I haven't tested the change, maybe I should
[02:05] <ChogyDan> anyone know how to set the cpu frequency scheduler/strategy?  I forget the term for it.  There used to be an applet in gnome2, but I've long forgotten what it was called.  Something to do with cpu frequency.  If you knew the term I'm looking for, just that would be helpful
[02:05] <Brispere> how can I remove useless entries from grub?
[02:06] <Brispere> don't really feel all that safe editing grub.cfg
[02:06] <ObrienDave> Brispere::: D/L Grub Customizer
[02:06] <Brispere> alright thanks
[02:07] <dakotawulfy> Kalel that is the color i got in gimp from thee screen shot
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> Brispere:  or edit the /etc/grub.d/ files as needed
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> Brispere:  what are you trying to change exactly?
[02:07] <Retroballa> dak once I install jockey-gtk where do I find it, running cinnamon atm
[02:08] <jack> hello
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> Retroballa:  try the command line, run 'jockey-gtk'
[02:09] <Retroballa> didn't work it says run sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk but wen I do it says, already the newest version
[02:09] <Kalel> dakotawulfy: What color you got?
[02:09] <dakotawulfy> from that patebin
[02:09] <trism> Kalel: yep changing the one in the .progressbar section worked, but I had to log out/back in before it showed up
[02:10] <dakotawulfy> Kalel 1234     background-color: #db6a3c;
[02:10] <trism> Kalel: though there might not be an exactly comparable section in the other theme, I changed it in a copy of the Ambiance theme
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> Retroballa:  what ubuntu reelase are you using?  it may be under the software-sources app, last tab.
[02:10] <Brispere> http://imgur.com/hmrnTtI how do i confirm these?
[02:10] <Retroballa> 13.04
[02:11] <trism> Brispere: tab then enter
[02:11] <Brispere> thanks
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> Retroballa:  run software-properties-gtk
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> Retroballa:  the last tab
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> there was no need to install jockey-gtk on 13.04 I imagine. ;) it may be a empty package
[02:12] <trism> Kalel: do you have a link to the theme you are using?
[02:13] <Retroballa> the latest in there is 313 but I think there are newer ones on nvidia's site which Im finding isn't easy to install or I'm making it to hard lol
[02:13] <Kalel> Yes.
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> Retroballa:  best is to stick to whats in teh repos
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> Retroballa:  the addational-drivers tool will NOT show whats the latest on nvidias site
[02:13] <Retroballa> yep
[02:13] <roachmmflhyr> Dr_Willis, i solved the issue with mount --bind /source/folder /home/user/folder and only allowing sftp access
[02:13] <Kalel> trism: http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/GTK3-Gnome-Shell-Faience-255097456 - I couldn't find the right line. Maybe it is defferent.
[02:14] <Retroballa> btw, off topic, but im glad firefox version 24 came out. Fixed my firefox full screen youtube crash
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> roachmmflhyr:  :) seems a bit extreme. but if its what you want. ;)
[02:14] <Kalel> dakotawulfy: I will test it. I just have to find the right place..
[02:15] <xangua> Retroballa: is already in repositories¿
[02:16] <roachmmflhyr> Dr_Willis, is that bad? thats the only solution i could find online
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> roachmmflhyr:  no idea. I am not that paranoid where i do that sort of stuff. ;)
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> my main trouble-making user. is a 4yr old grandson.. he can get through any security i put on any device in the house.
[02:18] <trism> Kalel: think I got it, Faience/gtk-3.0/gtk-widgets.css on line 1306 there is a .progressbar {} section, I added: background-color: #ff0000; on line 1315 in that section and got a red progressbar in the osd
[02:18] <trism> Kalel: but there seems to be some theme caching so you might need to log out/back in before it shows up
[02:19] <jKlaus> Hey, anyone in here using a powerline ethernet adapter?
[02:19] <jKlaus> I'm in the market for one but want to talk to an owner/user first
[02:19] <Kalel> trism: My lines aren't with numbers.. Are you using vim?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> jKlaus:  theres #hardware, but from the reviews ive seen of those in the past..  ive always avoided them
[02:20] <trism> Kalel: yeah, just search for .progressbar {
[02:20] <trism> Kalel: it has background-color commented out by default, I just added one
[02:20] <Brispere> t
[02:20] <jKlaus> Dr_Willis.. I looked into them years ago and the review seems pretty bad.. reviews anymore seem decent.. with about all brands
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> jKlaus:  of course these days. wireless is trivial to get going and cheaper i imagine.
[02:21] <jKlaus> Dr_Willis, yeah thats what I'm hoping at least.. need to get my mythtv out in the workshop
[02:21] <Carlos_Safety> so i've heard it's hard to downgrade ubuntu versions truly, but if you formatted the current partition and then installed would that work?  tying to downgrade from 13.04 to 12.04 for LTS'ness
[02:22] <darth_damian_000> Hey guys. Is there a way to add an IRC to account on empathy in 13.04? (IRC does not appear on the list)
[02:22] <naryfa> hi
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> jKlaus:  workshop with powertools? ;) that may be bad.
[02:22] <naryfa> it's me
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> jKlaus:  also  depending on how the house is wired the shop may be on a swperate circuit. ive had issues with those over-the-power-line intercoms befor.
[02:23] <jKlaus> Dr_Willis.. I'm willing to suffer the bad reception if I'm running my sawsall.. but while I'm running my 3D printer..
[02:24] <darth_damian_000> ubuntu 13.04 ... any way to add IRC to the list of accounts on empathy?
[02:25] <etzer> hello all
[02:25] <etzer> ?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> hellos
[02:25] <etzer> my wireless mouse doesn't work with the version 13
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> Dosent look like  empathy supports irc.
[02:26] <ChogyDan> Carlos_Safety: obviously, if you format the partition and reinstall, you will sort of have a downgrade.  You would just be deleting everything and starting from scratch.  If you backup and restore your /home stuff, then you will make sure to save all your docs and settings.  I think there can be some issues with certain apps
[02:26] <dakotawulfy>  darth_damian_000 looks like it a bug and does not work
[02:26] <ChogyDan> Carlos_Safety: in that the 12.04 apps may not recognize what the 13.04 apps put into /home
[02:27] <dakotawulfy> darth_damian_000 u can try pidgin
[02:27] <trism> dakotawulfy: I think you need account-plugin-irc to use irc with empathy
[02:27] <Carlos_Safety> ChogyDan: oh no , data is not an issue, i'm very new to ubuntu and have barely got customizing, so if i clear /home/ totally...  no problems? or...  possibly yes, who knows? lol
[02:27] <darth_damian_000> Thanks dakotawulfy
[02:28] <dakotawulfy> trism yea u do
[02:28] <etzer> my wireless mouse doesn't work with the version 13.04
[02:28] <ChogyDan> Carlos_Safety: if there is nothing you want to save, then there is absolutely no issue.  Just reformat and reinstall
[02:28] <dakotawulfy> but looks like it has a bug
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> etzer:  and what does it do? check the  output of dmesg if you plug/unplug/replug it back in?
[02:28] <darth_damian_000> My next question is regarding the system. It crashes by first freezing mouse movement, and screen gets distorted (squares resembling desktop background appear). This happened 1) When I was playing freecell, 2) When I was opening a PDF file in firefox, and 3) When I zoomed in on a picture in shotwell by using the scroll wheel on my mouse. Is this also a bug or something I can fix on my end?
[02:29] <Kalel> trism: Ok. I did.. I will Logout and test it.. dakotawulfy, let see the result in a few seconds. Thank you two..
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> etzer:  is it some sort of unusual mouse? give us details so we dont have to play 20 questions
[02:30] <dakotawulfy> Kalel n/p
[02:31] <etzer> my computer is an iMac which i install windows 0n it and i partition the drive and install ubuntu 13.04 at the beginning it of the installation it's work and at the end the mouse doesn't work. it's a apple mouse that come with the computer
[02:31] <Levi__> hello everyone
[02:31] <dakotawulfy> darth_damian_000: what video card do you have an intel ??
[02:31] <darth_damian_000> Nvidia
[02:31] <etzer> but it's work with the version 12.04
[02:32] <Levi__> whats the problem darth_damian_000
[02:32] <dakotawulfy> etzer were u able to reboot it from the install and see if the mouse worked ?
[02:33] <darth_damian_000> Simply put, the system crashes, and that happens when my activity gets intense. It crashed when I was opening a fairly large PDF file, and another instance, it happened because I was zooming in/out images on Shotwell
[02:33] <darth_damian_000> the pdf file was opened in the firefox browser
[02:33] <randomaussie> afternoon all... would like to know how to look up the log file that would be written to every time the gui system error would you like to report window comes up
[02:33] <Kalel> trism: dakotawulfy: I appreciate your help guys but didn't worked. I will continue with ordinary Faience theme..
[02:33] <Levi__> very interesting
[02:33] <Kalel> trism: dakotawulfy: Thank you.
[02:34] <etzer> i did all that nothing work
[02:34] <trism> Kalel: one sec, let me pastebin the file I edited
[02:35] <trism> Kalel: which of the three themes are you using?
[02:35] <Kalel> trism: Faience Claire, GTK
[02:37] <Rblzr> hi
[02:37] <George_Henrique> I have a BEAGLEBONE and would like to use it with ubuntu GUI. Can I install on the sd card?
[02:40] <trism> Kalel: hmm, it worked for Faience but the same change isn't working in Faience Claire
[02:42] <Kalel> trism: So, nervermind. I think will create my own theme based on Ambience..
[02:42] <Kalel> Its the best solution..
[02:43] <lovelymortal> what window manager do you use?
[02:43] <George_Henrique> What is a good linux with gui for me to install on the sd card?
[02:43] <lovelymortal> any ubuntu distro will do fine
[02:44] <lovelymortal> or xubuntu lubuntu....etc
[02:44] <ObrienDave> George_Henrique::: Lighter, the better. Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[02:44] <Kalel> George_Henrique: Install the system on sd?
[02:44] <naryfa> linux on an SD card is going to be slow I think
[02:44] <naryfa> but if you really want it, try slax maybe?
[02:44] <ObrienDave> I run Xubuntu from USB Stick. Slow, yes.
[02:44] <Kalel> George_Henrique: You can try gparted with the sd into a modem mobilebrand.. Worked for me.
[02:45] <George_Henrique> Kalel i want for use with beaglebone
[02:45] <Kalel> George_Henrique: With Gparted, format it to fat32, with unetbootin, create the iso to boot..
[02:45] <Kalel> George_Henrique: I do not know it..
[02:46] <Kalel> George_Henrique: If you have the iso, can proceed.
[02:48] <Kalel> George_Henrique: Beaglebone looks like Raspberry PI..
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> i run my raspberry pi from a sd card. ;) but it dosent run ubuntu. ;)
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> I imagine the beaglebone sites will have info on how to set up differnt disrto on it.
[02:48] <George_Henrique> Kalel yeah, looks like raspberry pi
[02:48] <George_Henrique> Dr_Willis what do you run?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> George_Henrique:  depends on which pi im on. ;)
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> PlexPi on the media-center pies.. rasbian on the desktop Pi.
[02:49] <Kalel> George_Henrique: Already available on brazzilian stores?
[02:49] <George_Henrique> I want a lightweight linux, but with GUI
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> George_Henrique:  theres dozens of them out there.
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> but for a beableboard - i would check what  disrtos are out secifically for that device
[02:50] <nbros652> Is there a way to make sshfs mounts automatically update in nautilus? I'm taking pictures with my phone and want to see pictures that are taken automatically show up in a folder on my computer without needing to refresh. Is this possible?
[02:50] <George_Henrique> I bought on the internet. Here in Brazil does not sell.
[02:50] <Kalel> Dr_Willis: rasbian, Debian based?
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> nbros652:  they do automatically refresh here in nautilus i belive
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  yes.
[02:51] <gassho> i have problems with my keyboard
[02:51] <George_Henrique> The BEAGLEBONE comes with angstrom
[02:51] <nbros652> Dr_Willis: I'll check again.
[02:51] <Kalel> George_Henrique: Oh.. I really would like to import an alienware...
[02:51] <gassho> or rather how my computer interprets my input
[02:52] <gassho> but i can stop it if i let my computer make a capital letter
[02:52] <gassho> shift keeps 'sticking'
[02:52] <George_Henrique> You know how I can install gnumeric?
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> gassho, pull it out and clean it
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> nbros652:  im monitoring file sizes on cheese on a remote box.. and it updates the size every 60 sec or so it seems
[02:52] <George_Henrique> Kalel where do you live?
[02:52] <utusan> George_Henrique: apt-get install gnumeric
[02:52]  * Dr_Willis checks again
[02:53] <gassho> its a laptop keyboard
[02:53] <Kalel> George_Henrique: SP
[02:53] <George_Henrique> utusan in angstrom does not work ...
[02:53] <gassho> they got this stuck tight id have to open it
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> gassho, So, so are mine they can be removed look up the keybaord instructions
[02:53] <George_Henrique> Kalel Why do not you buy on the internet?
[02:53] <nbros652> Dr_Willis: I'm actually looking for something a little more immediate, like every 5 seconds or so.
[02:53] <Kalel> #George_Henrique
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> nbros652:  perhaps its not doing it via nautilus.. or im makign it do it by doing other things in the file manager. ;)
[02:54] <gassho> it stopped spontaneously
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> !info fam
[02:54] <gassho> hurey
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> nbros652:  fam may do what you need. seen it used in the past
[02:54] <uronu> hello guys, how can we connect windows client through ubuntu openldap server?
[02:54] <trism> Kalel: I figured it out, forgot a semi-colon oops
[02:54] <uronu> from*
[02:54] <George_Henrique> Kalel ?
[02:54] <Kalel> George_Henrique: The importation is too much expansive. I prefer travel and buy out there..
[02:55] <George_Henrique> hhehehehe
[02:55] <trism> Kalel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6086167/ line 1315 was added
[02:55] <Kalel> Brazzilian's government eat all the money..
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> nbros652:  yep. its not seeing a change i made on the remote box  from within sshfs. there mightbe some options to sshfs.
[02:57] <George_Henrique> Kalel it's true
[02:57] <Kalel> trism: Great... The color choosed? Red? I can change that...
[02:58] <iampoz> hello, I am having trouble with networking. first problem is that when I am connected to a network with no internet and a wireless network with internet, the internet does not work
[02:58] <Kalel> trism: I'll backup the original, replace and test... Right now..
[02:58] <trism> Kalel: yeah you can pick any color, that one was green
[02:58] <trism> Kalel: I wanted a bright color so I knew it worked
[02:58] <iampoz> anyone know how to choose the default network to use for the internet?
[02:58] <George_Henrique> I can not install gnumeric in angstrom
[02:58] <Kalel> trism: oK...
[03:00] <ghena1986> http://bit.ly/17KoYYq
[03:00] <iampoz> ?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  you mean set the default gateway?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> set the gateway to be the ip of the router that has the network connection
[03:01] <iampoz> oh okay
[03:01] <iampoz> where can I set the gateway?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> i imagine in network manager somewhere. ive never needed to set it.
[03:02] <iampoz> i will google
[03:02] <Kalel> dakotawulfy: Can you show me the color again?
[03:02] <dakotawulfy> the orange color i had ??
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> gateway is there under the network manager tool. if you disable dhcp
[03:03] <Kalel> dakotawulfy: Yes, please...
[03:03] <dakotawulfy> db6a3c
[03:04] <Kalel> perfect..
[03:05] <Kalel> I'll test my new theme now.. I come back later.
[03:05] <iampoz> Can not find it Dr_Willis
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  under network manager. you disable dhcp and set the info manually it looks like to me. If i try to change it.. imay get disconnected. ;)
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> or use the route command i recall
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> route command shows your default gateway
[03:10] <Kalel> trism: Well.. Didn't worked again. Forsake! Nevermind. I am satisfied anyway with Faience. Thank you again...
[03:10] <iampoz> Dr_Willis, I am not sure which one to disable dhcp on, my wired connection or my wireless
[03:10] <Kalel> I am so much sleepy.
[03:10] <Kalel> Good night all!!
[03:11] <uronu> does windows work to connect ldap server without samba?
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  no idea. Id imagine you want the default gateway to be going throgh whatever one is connected to your router. thats going to the internet
[03:11] <LinuxGuy2020> Im running a headless server and I installed transmission-daemon. I added the whitelist ip address to cover my lan machines "192.168.1.*". Everytime I boot the server the web gui doesnt work. If I SSH into the server and restart the transmission daemon then the web gui works. Is there some logic to this? Right now my work around is I added a line in rc.local to restart it at boot. Is there a real fix or is this normal? It seems like a ch
[03:11] <iampoz> wired does not have internet, and wireless has internet. when the wired is connected, I do not have internet access, its like ubuntu will only try to access internet though the wired connection
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> i got a desktop with wired and wireless.. either one works ;)
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> why  do you have both going anyway?
[03:12] <nbros652> Dr_Willis: Thanks... I'll check out fam. I know it works with scp, but I would like to be able to make modifications to filenames from more than one location and not have to script the changes to cascade.
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> wired would be faster, so i would want that to be the default
[03:12] <iampoz> I am trying to connect two desktop, one windows 7 and one ubuntu 12.04 on an independent network to share files
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> i got a similer setup with 2 routers. ;)
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> lan 1 -> router 1   -> lan2 (on router 2)
[03:13] <iampoz> in the end they will both be wired to the internet network and wired to each other on a separate network
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> things on lan1 can get to the pcs on lan2. but lan2 cant get back through router 1 to get to lan1. ;)
[03:14] <papito> is there some tool to rescue files? i was editing a java file, and forgot to plug the cable cord to the power.. the 3 files had open were lost. next time i opened them were only were invalid characters not belonging to any encoding. i try to browse for eclipse local history to get the latest saved version.. but miserably eclipse doesnt show local history.. if i dont recover these files, ive lost my today's work :'(
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> i need to set router 1 to be in 'hub/switch mode' but its sort of broken and i cant get in to confiogure it. ;p
[03:14] <trism> Kalel: it might be different in gnome-shell, I don't know if gsd still draws it there, so it might be a different element of the theme (maybe the shell part)
[03:14] <trism> Kalel: in fact I don't think it does since they dropped that code in recent gsd
[03:15] <iampoz> interesting set up
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> i have pc1 with wired to router 1, and wireless to router 2. :) that way i can access it from any pc on both networks.  (its a plex media server)
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> I need to get rid of router1.. but i dont want to change all the rokus, and  things to the new router..  i change them as i get around to it.
[03:15] <iampoz> i see
[03:16] <iampoz> sounds a little more involved then what I want
[03:16] <iampoz> Basically, I just want to set up a network between my windows 7 computer and my ubuntu 12.04 computer
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> I could move everthing to router 1 rather eaially. :0 but theni got to  make sure every phone, tablet, roku, raspberry pi, tv,  and other devices.. are at the new router. ;)
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> plus the grandkids are the only ones on the other router mainly. :) so that keeps them off my other machines lan.
[03:17] <iampoz> enough though I have them connected to a router with no firewall or anything in between on either side or on the router itself, they just can not see each other
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> I recall some network diagraming tool that may help people understand your layout and  help you better.
[03:19] <varunendra> iampoz, could you successfully add the default gateway?
[03:20] <iampoz> well we can start simple... even take the router out of the equation... If I hook up an Ethernet cord from my ubuntu desktop to my windows 7 desktop, shouldn’t they be able to see each other?
[03:21] <iampoz> varunendra, no i can not. I don’t understand why configuring the wireless connection manually will cause ubuntu to listen to it over the wired connection.
[03:22] <varunendra> iampoz, default gateway is the route that any OS assumes to be the 'default' path to access internet. That does not need be complex.
[03:22]  * rblzr yawn
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  IF theres a dhcp server on one of the pcs. in theory yes.
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  checkif both have an ip. and see if they can ping each other
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  also you may want to disable the windows firewall
[03:23] <varunendra> iampoz, try - "sudo route add default gw <your gateway's IP>"
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> gateway ip - is the ip of the router going to the internet.
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> ie: 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.10.1  (for example)
[03:24] <iampoz> okay, I will try that
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> but you dont have a router its going into? its going into a windows box?
[03:25] <iampoz> well I tryed and it never messed up my internet, I will connect to wired and see if I get disconnected now
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> this is when a diagram would be helpfull
[03:26] <iampoz> I typed in "sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.1", and when I connect to the wired connection, I can not access the internet
[03:27] <iampoz> I do have a router, but I thought for simplicty sake, I would leave it out for now, so it is just two computer wired directly to each other. I am not sure how I set up a dhcp server on one of them though so maybe that is where a router is required - all firewalls are off
[03:27] <dakotawulfy> iampoz 192.168.0.1 not 192.168.1.1??
[03:28] <iampoz> I am pretty sure the one with the internet is 192.168.0.1 - the wired one is 192.168.1.1
[03:29] <varunendra> iampoz, if you already have another default gateway defined, of course that needs to be deleted first. Check the current gateways with "route -n"
[03:30] <varunendra> iampoz, if there is another one, "sudo route del default gw <conflicting one>"
[03:30] <iampoz> some pretty weird gateways, I will put it in a pastebin
[03:31] <iampoz> http://pastebin.com/0LtF6VUx
[03:31] <iampoz> I guess I would delete the 0.0.0.0 gateways?
[03:33] <Retroballa> after an half-hour and watching you tube java installed haha
[03:33] <varunendra> no that's normal. You only have one gw at the moment. Are you sure you remain connected to wireless when you connect cable?
[03:33] <varunendra> iampoz, ^^
[03:33] <iampoz> yes
[03:34] <iampoz> I will connect to the wired one and do the 'route -n' to see what happends
[03:34] <varunendra> iampoz, please also show us the output of "nm-tool" when both are connected.
[03:35] <iampoz> amd I here right now?
[03:35] <iampoz> am I here right now?
[03:35] <iampoz> seems like I am here
[03:35] <Retroballa> I dk where the hell I am
[03:37] <|Anthony|> I'm using xubuntu 12.04 and mumble 1.2.3-2ubuntu4.1 and am having issues with echo cancellation. It seems as though nothing i do actually enables echo cancellation. Is there a specific procedure i need to take to get that to work as expected?
[03:37] <varunendra> iampoz, you are here :D
[03:38] <iampoz> is it save to post pastebins with mac ids?
[03:39] <varunendra> iampoz, better obscure or snip it, why take chances ;)
[03:39] <iampoz> I guess I maintained my connection here while the wired was connected but the browser fails to load anything... I have a pastebin with route -n and nm-tool while connected to both
[03:42] <Ben64> iampoz: theres nothing anyone can do with your mac address, it doesn't travel beyond the data link layer
[03:43] <varunendra> iampoz, unless the browser has some custom network settings, I think a log out --> re-login should fix the browser issue too (but I can't be sure).
[03:43] <iampoz> http://pastebin.com/QjX5QUUz
[03:44] <iampoz> I open a new browser...
[03:44] <ExtraMt> i need help .. i lost my user name and password on backtrack 5 .. how i get the user and the password back ?
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> !backtrack
[03:45] <ExtraMt> thank alot
[03:47] <iampoz> so do you see how under the 'Device: wlan0  [LolaLover] ---' is says 'Default:           no' but under 'Device: eth0  [Wired connection 1] ---' it says 'Default:           yes'
[03:47] <iampoz> I think that is the problem
[03:48] <danny4way> Is there any way to install java platform jdk on ubuntu?
[03:48] <danny4way> The latest version of it. I need it for school. I tried to download a file from its website but it isn't installing like on Windows
[03:49] <cfhowlett> !java
[03:49] <samalex> figured i'd ask this here .. i generally run LTS versions, but are there enough gee-wiz features in 13.04 to make it worth checking out as opposed to 12.04?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> ExtraMt:  You dont get the password back. You set a new one. ;)   that applies to most every disrto ive ever seen.
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, http://askubuntu.com/questions/55848/how-do-i-install-oracle-java-jdk-7
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> samalex:  13.10 is comming out next month. ;)
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> samalex:  it has a lot of gee-wiz new stuff
[03:50] <samalex> dr_Willis, good point..
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> samalex:  one of note - is much better management/controll of lenses.  ;)
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> samalex:  then theres the whole Mir thing for those that are into  that stuff
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, here is another. http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> a bit easier this one
[03:52] <danny4way> I actually have to install many software for my AP JAVA class. It requires me to have Java JDK and JCreator
[03:53] <cfhowlett> danny4way, maybe install windows in virtualbox and put java there?
[03:53] <samalex> Dr_Willis, yeah I've been reading about mir, it'll be weird changing, heck I still miss xfree86 :)
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> samalex:  i dont miss having to constantly edit my xorg.conf ;P
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> even twinview automatically gets enabled for me now a days
[03:54] <danny4way> Do you think Virtualbox might slow my computer down? I used to have windows on my laptop but windows is too much for my laptop to handle so i moved to Ubuntu and it's a lot smoother to use
[03:54] <danny4way> cfhowlett
[03:54] <samalex> I have a love/hate relationship with xorg.conf, over the years of using Linux i've learned how to tweak my system rather well using it ... but i guess mir makes it easier to configure?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> danny4way:  depends on what all you do in the vbox. :)
[03:54] <samalex> i've not used it
[03:54] <cfhowlett> danny4way, it won't run at native speed.
[03:54] <danny4way> Well. I won't mind if it isn't too slow.
[03:54] <varunendra> iampoz, one thing you can try is to set "Method" for your wired connection to "Automatic (DHCP) address only". Leave the DNS and gateway fields empty since you'd be using wifi for Internet.
[03:55] <iampoz> okay I will try that
[03:55] <samalex> wonder if I insatlled 13.10 RC now i it'd gracefully upgrade to full 13.10 when it's released... never done that, but I really want to reload soon.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> samalex:  thats how its supposed to work
[03:55] <danny4way> I can try it out but installing softwares on my computer is due the day after tomorrow so iam like figuring out how to actually install it properly.
[03:55] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|samalex,
[03:55] <danny4way> I've had experience installing things on Ubuntu but most of them, I had problems with server.
[03:56] <samalex> ahh
[03:56] <iampoz> varunendra, nope, does not work either
[03:56] <Q_Continuum> Activating Proprietary Drivers on 12.04 with an AMD E-300 APU; I have 4 FGLRX driver options; 3 that are experimental (1 of these tagged for 2D only) and a 'post-release updates' - the two experimentals that aren't for 2D are both tagged as 12.11 drivers by the Release Notes - how to ID which one to activate?
[03:57] <iampoz> I am thinking about looking for some type of product that I can connect a few hard drives to which can be access by both eSATA and an ethernet cable... i hope that exists
[03:57] <Q_Continuum> I recall previous Ubuntu releases giving more info on what each one was :-/
[03:57] <varunendra> iampoz, after changing that, do - "sudo service networking restart" and "sudo service network-manager restart".
[03:58] <iampoz> okay
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  ive seen hard drive enclosures that are  esata, or usb3. cant say ive really noticed any with NAS/network ports.
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  i THINK i had one that was like that. ages ago. but it was a very weird sort of nas. ;)
[03:59] <varunendra> iampoz, an ancient thread with a possible solution : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1474098
[03:59] <anton02> is anyone running KDE 4.11.1
[03:59] <Q_Continuum> ethernet cable = more than JBOD, you need a (small) server in it to be a NAS/etc
[03:59] <randomaussie> hi all... any anyone link me to a wat to view the gui "report a problem" logs. they keep popping up and google isnt helping me
[03:59] <anton02> does drive auto mount and detect still work for you
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> randomaussie:  thats the apport service. or was it apreport
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> randomaussie:  i tend to just disable it. ;)
[04:00] <randomaussie> Dr_willis: i wanted to find what was causing the problem and try to fix it "internal error" i think it says
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> randomaussie:  thats just the standard 'somthing crashed' message..  ive seen them pop up for somthing that was updated days befor. ;)
[04:01] <randomaussie> Dr_Willis: i have one now... "system program problem detected"
[04:01] <randomaussie> of so just ignore it?
[04:01] <randomaussie> oh**
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> randomaussie:  just a generic 'somthing crashed'
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> ignore it.. see if it keeps comming back up, or send a report
[04:02] <randomaussie> yeah pops up every now and then
[04:02] <randomaussie> thats why i wanted to know if thre was a log file i could look at to work out what keeps crashing
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> about the only thing i do with apport is disable it  ;)  i imagine theres some logs somewhere. Id have to look it up on askubuntu.com to figure out where. heh
[04:04] <randomaussie> Dr_willis: keep forgetting to put your name first.... it pops up
[04:04] <randomaussie> i'll have a look at ask reddit myself
[04:05] <randomaussie> derp i mean ask ubuntu
[04:05] <randomaussie> guess what i'm doing on the side :)
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport   has some info and links on the topic it seems
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[04:07] <iampoz> okay this worked: Under IPv4, click "Routes..." and then check the box that says "Use this connection only for resources on its network."
[04:07] <iampoz> that is all I had to do, now I am connected to both and I can access the internet
[04:08] <iampoz> are the proper defaults are set for the proper devices. Thank you varunendra
[04:09] <iampoz> It is getting late now so I have to go bed, thanks again and good night!
[04:11] <blueredturtle> random question: is there a way to start X on the actual monitor plugged into a machine when SSH'd into it from elsewhere?
[04:13] <researcher> which comand line can let me know if I have 32 bit or 64 bit system installed?
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> researcher, uname -a
[04:14] <researcher> wilee-nilee: thanks
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> blueredturtle:  if you  give the right options to X, and dont have X forwarding enabled. yes - should be doable
[04:16] <blueredturtle> Dr_Willis: hm okay (slightly simplified the problem, trying to start javafx jar on a raspberrypi - which accesses the frame buffer on the pi instead of X)
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> blueredturtle:  if X forwarding is not enabled (not thta it would matter i guess)  it shoulkd work
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> blueredturtle:  ive ran omxplayer on my pi that way
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> sshed in, ran omxplayer video.avi, it showed on the pi
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> if it was a X application. You would need to have your DISPLAY set to be the pi's display. and have X forarding off (i think) and allow  the access via the xhost + command I seem to recall.
[04:19] <blueredturtle> Dr_Willis: hm, maybe I'm doing something then
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> omxplayer is sort of special on the pi. ;)
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> or was it oxmplayer. i cant recall now.
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47642/how-to-start-a-a-gui-software-on-a-remote-linux-pc-via-ssh
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> Hmm...
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> the examplein there uses firefox.. I definatly recall firefox doing some weird stuff when trying it that way.
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> and i definatly think theres some security stopping that.
[04:24] <jordanrx123> i have many problem on metasploit, do you have solutions ?
[04:25] <jordanrx123> help me please all, i have many problems on metasploit backtrack 5
[04:26] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|jordanrx123,
[04:27] <jordanrx123> ubuntu ?
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> backtrack is not ubuntu. backtrackhas its own support channels
[04:27] <cfhowlett> jordanrx123, read the factoid.  As stated, backtrack has its own channel for support.
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> not on freenode anymore they are eol
[04:28] <jordanrx123> yes , i agree sir :)
[04:31] <Wolfium> Hello everyone. I wish you all a great day to start with. My days havn't been so good I am obliged to use windows because my Iburst usb modem is freezing my ubuntu 13.04 kernel 3.8.0 i installed the ibdriver-dkms and everything works fine my system recognizes and initiallizes the usb modem but after i connect the whole system freezes and have to !reisub
[04:31] <Wolfium> I need to return to linux help plz
[04:32] <cfhowlett> Wolfium, so don't use the modem?
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> Wolfium, or get one that works
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> does the issue happen in earlier releases of ubuntu?
[04:32] <Wolfium> how would i access the net
[04:32] <Wolfium> ?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> Wolfium, there are cheap wifi dongles on amazon ...
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> this is some sort of 3g modem? or what exactly?
[04:33] <varunendra> Wolfium, is it actually a modem (3g/4g) or a wifi adapter?
[04:33] <Wolfium> it simply a wifi iburst modem
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> I need about 4 more cheap wifi dongles. ;)
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> the term 'wifi modem' seems sort of.. contradictory
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> sort of like a Car-Motorcycle
[04:33] <Wolfium> well it's a usb modem and it has an account on its host server and it connects me to the internet
[04:34] <Wolfium> here in lebanon we dont have wifi everywhere
[04:34] <Wolfium> its not 3g it has got no SIM card input
[04:35] <Wolfium> here is a pic
[04:35] <Wolfium> http://www.google.com/imgres?q=Mobi+usb+dongle&um=1&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=617&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbnid=rDMz_08ZXciMHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.mobi.tm/Mobi_Modems&docid=yZEC_urzERgxhM&imgurl=http://www.mobi.tm/Library/Images/Uploaded%252520Images/usb-dongle.jpg&w=150&h=183&ei=dKEuUs7NEMKW0AXS7oCICA&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:0,s:0,i:81&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=146&tbnw=108&start=0&ndsp=19&tx=1&ty=47
[04:35] <FloodBot1> Wolfium: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <varunendra> Wolfium, can you show us the output of "lsusb" while it is plugged in?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> so its a WiFi Dongle that connexts to the iburst companies Wifi Hotspots?
[04:36] <Wolfium> yh
[04:36] <Wolfium> exactly
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> that looks like a very very weird wifi dontle. ;)
[04:36] <Wolfium> and lsusb recognizes the iburst
[04:37] <cfhowlett> Wolfium, I supposed on the windows side, it has drivers?
[04:37] <varunendra> Wolfium, please show us the line from lsusb that shows the modem/dongle.
[04:37] <Wolfium> yes
[04:37] <Wolfium> it does
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> 'a 3.9g network and the latest modems'
[04:37] <Wolfium> varunendra I have to boot into the ubuntu system
[04:37] <Wolfium> 1 min
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> seems it is  using the cell phone network then. ;) not wifi
[04:37] <cfhowlett> Wolfium, this sounds like a non-standard piece of hardware.  linux may or may not have a solution.
[04:38] <Wolfium> ill reboot and return to u
[04:38] <domino14> i'm trying to install python 2.6 on ubuntu 12.04
[04:39] <domino14> i did wget http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python2.6/{python2.6{,-minimal,-dev,-dbg},libpython2.6}_2.6.7-4ubuntu1_i386.deb
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !python|domino14,
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/125342/how-can-i-install-python-2-6-on-12-04
[04:48] <Wolfium> hello everyone im back
[04:48] <Wolfium> here is lsudb
[04:48] <Wolfium> lsusb
[04:48] <Wolfium> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0482:0204 Kyocera Corp. iBurst Terminal
[04:50] <Wolfium> @varunendra this the output of the usb
[04:50] <Wolfium> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0482:0204 Kyocera Corp. iBurst Terminal
[04:54] <null_dev> Hi
[04:54] <cfhowlett> null_dev, greetings
[04:54] <null_dev> Is there a channel where I can find more information on gMTP?
[04:55] <null_dev> I have this error log when trying to use it with my new phone. http://pastebin.com/P8RLrCTd
[04:55] <Ben64> what is gMTP
[04:55] <null_dev> It's a GUI for navigating lipmtp with MP3 players and phones.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> hmm.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis>  A simple MP3 and Media player client for UNIX and UNIX like systems.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> http://gmtp.sourceforge.net/
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> !find gmtp
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> !info gmtp
[04:58] <null_dev> Thanks Dr_Willis. Any ideas on what issues I might be having? I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 with a Samsung Galaxy S3 which is not rooted.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> not a clue. I dont bother with such apps to get stuff to my S3. I use airdroid. ;)
[04:59] <null_dev> I thought Airdroid wasn't for Unix like systems?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> You put airdroid on the phone/tablet. then use any os, and any browser to connect to the phone
[04:59] <cfhowlett> null_dev, eh?  airdroid is browser based and OS agnostic
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> No need for anything other then a browser on the pc ;)
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> I use it all the time. ;P
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> it beats using usb cables and trying to mount the phone.
[05:00]  * cfhowlett ... co-signs the good Doctor's sage wisdom.
[05:00] <TsarObomba> I had a user with lets say name "foo", well long story short, I had to delete the user, so I deleted and recreated it. But upon login via ssh I get a message about my group id
[05:00] <null_dev> cfhowlett Dr_Willis Awesome. I'll just get rid of gMTP and give that a whirl. Thanks!
[05:00] <TsarObomba> groups: cannot find name for group ID 1001
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Im not even sure that that gMTP is the same 'mtp' that android uses.
[05:00] <TsarObomba> What do I do to fix it?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> I defainatly have never needed to use somthing like gmtp to get muzak to my phone
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Phone = a little bitty pc. ;) and i treat it like one. heh.
[05:01] <TsarObomba> is it because my last user of the same name was 1001?
[05:01] <TsarObomba> Should I change my UID and GID to 1002 instead?
[05:02] <TsarObomba> or just GID rather
[05:02] <TsarObomba> dont think uid can be changed
[05:02] <TsarObomba> hmm, that worked
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> the initial user has a UID of 1000, a new user should be 1001
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> but you deleted the user first. Hmm. ;) not sure what that would do.
[05:05] <null_dev> Hmm.
[05:05] <null_dev> Okay, now I've got the AirDroid app on my phone, but it says when I go to the website, 'Faile to load configuration file, click OK to sign in again.
[05:06] <null_dev> Clicking OK just brings me back to that same error message.
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> what web site? I just run the airdroid app.  (my phone is connected to my local lan) and then punch in the ip#/port it says on my pcs browser
[05:06] <cfhowlett> null_dev, go to the airdroid site.
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> it has a feature to connect over the internet. but i never use it that way
[05:07] <cfhowlett> null_dev, I login via camera NFC
[05:07] <null_dev> cfhowlett I'm at web.airdroid.com
[05:07] <ObrienDave> or scan the QR code
[05:07] <cfhowlett> null_dev,  and both devices must be on the same wifi network
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive tried the NFC/Qrcode method. ;)
[05:07] <null_dev> We are.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> That woule be neat to get that NFC/Beaming feature working  from my PC to my Phone. ;) i only do that NFC stuff from phone to tablet.
[05:12] <null_dev> cfhowlett Okay, I created an account with airdroid. I went to their site. By clearing my cache I was able to get past that weird feature, but now their site is a fuzzy image of what appears to be a lake with some island on the end of it at sunset. There is a toolbar up top with some tools, but no login feature or any picture to scan.
[05:14] <cfhowlett> null_dev, take a peek at your phone to see if you actually connected.  also, consider bouncing this to #android as it seems to NOT be an ubuntu issue.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> i never really go to their site. ;)
[05:15] <null_dev> cfhowlett Okay, thanks.
[05:16] <cfhowlett> null_dev,  if you're connected, you'll see an android green paper airplane in the upper left phone screen
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> phone on local network pc on local network.. type in ip and port in firefox.  Phone pops up an 'accept/deny' dialog.
[05:16] <null_dev> cfhowlett I see that.
[05:16] <null_dev> Dr_Willis I'm not quite sure I understood what you meant.
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> i run airdroid on tablet.. it shows a 'open web address'
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> http://web.airdroid.com    OR <----    http://192.168.1.100:8888
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> I enter the url and port in my browser.. and  connect
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> I never use the web.airdroid.com when the thing is on the same local lan
[05:19] <sonnet420> Hello room
[05:19] <Nimble> hi sonnet420
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> you only have a 100mb limit it seems if you access airdroid over the internet.
[05:20] <null_dev> using the IP and Port address timed out.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> check firewall i guess? ive only used that way.
[05:21] <sonnet420> anybody know why, when i unplug my laptop the screen flickers every like 30 seconds but no problem when it's plugged in
[05:21] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, that's true.  I think it resets every 30 days
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> yep. they have a pay service for 1gb a month
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> with some extra fetures
[05:22] <sonnet420> i used the vid drivers from amd
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> i use airdroid to transfer over several gb of video files at a time to my tablet. ;)
[05:23] <sonnet420> anybody have the same issue or know a solution?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> sounds like some power saveing mode kicking in.
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> it dident do it with the open sourced drivers?
[05:24] <null_dev> sonnet420 Check power saving methods, I believe there's a slider bar for the fade in/ fade out on the screen going dark.
[05:24] <sonnet420> when i try those ones that are in the system settings area, it won't even boot the computer
[05:25] <sonnet420> it's not the fade, it's like the screen refreshes every 30 seconds
[05:25] <sonnet420> i've tried the beta drivers and the other ones in the vid driver section in system settings
[05:26] <Nimble> does it happen on windows? (if you use windows)
[05:26] <sonnet420> nope
[05:26] <rscnt> someone need help?
[05:26] <sonnet420> just in ubuntu
[05:26] <sonnet420> not on my other linux distro's
[05:26] <rscnt> oh
[05:27] <rscnt> arch?
[05:27] <sonnet420> but this driver is the only one that i can get 3d rendering to play any games
[05:27] <Nimble> does it happen on other drivers?
[05:27] <sonnet420> scared to try
[05:27] <Nimble> lol
[05:27] <Nimble> are you using the proprietary amd drivers?
[05:28] <sonnet420> when i first installed ubuntu, i'd change the driver.. then poof upon reboot i couldn't access my os
[05:28] <Nimble> could you at least get to a shell?
[05:28] <sonnet420> i don't think so, it's been a month
[05:29] <Nimble> so what would happen?
[05:29] <Nimble> the kernel would fail to boot?
[05:29] <rscnt> reinstall#windows
[05:29] <null_dev> Logging into the website with my phone, I can see that I'm missing the sign in page as well as the QR Code entirely.
[05:30] <sonnet420> i had to re-install the os 4 different times trying to change the adapter, finally went online and got proprietary drivers from amd and i have 3d acceleration i had to get rid of the watermark also
[05:30] <Nimble> I mean, when you reboot would it just be a blank screen?
[05:30] <sonnet420> it'd go to the ubuntu grub
[05:30] <sonnet420> but once i hit enter..poof
[05:31] <Nimble> what would happen next? would the ubuntu logo appear?
[05:31] <Nimble> some text?
[05:31] <sonnet420> it'd load to a black screen
[05:31] <sonnet420> no logo.. no text
[05:31] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset
[05:31] <Nimble> what the bot said
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. airdroid website worked fine for me also null_dev  ;)
[05:32] <sonnet420> lol so that will give it a generic driver then tho right
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> null_dev:  first time ive ever been to it.
[05:32] <Nimble> at least you could boot far enough to figure out what is wrong
[05:32] <sonnet420> right
[05:32]  * null_dev sighs. "Okay. I'm going to try it with add ons disabled. Thanks Dr_Willis, cfhowlett."
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> hmm. got flashblock and adblock both going here. ;)
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever had any addons cause issues
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> Now that airdroid service would be so COOL if say Ubuntu One sort of had a serice like it to go with their cloud service.
[05:35] <null_dev> Disabled addons, now it's working.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> what addon was causing the issue?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> no javascript?
[05:35] <null_dev> Don't know yet, I just restarted with all addons disabled.
[05:35] <bouma> is there a good replacement for the 'file search' gui program.. it seems unreasonably inefficient
[05:35] <bouma> or alternative
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> !info catfish
[05:35] <bouma> thank you
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> catfish  - is what xubuntu uses i belive
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Not sure what Lubuntu has.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> theres most likely others
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> then theres the good old find, and locate commands. ;)
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> I really rarely use any of them. :) i try to stay organized
[05:37] <bouma> right, but i do not have or want a prebuilt index (need to get through a bunch of different hdds)
[05:37] <sonnet420> another question
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> i do recall that locate can set up user defined index's :) so if you had a HD of a lot of videos, you could have locate index that once. then search the index as needed
[05:37] <sonnet420> i'd like the home folder encrypted, but didn't choose the option when i installed it
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> which is a overlooked feature of locate
[05:38] <sonnet420> i've tried this migrate command line thing to no avail
[05:39] <bouma> Dr_Willis: does locate cope with changing mount points ?
[05:40] <smw94> i've downloaded and install libreoffice 4.0.5 but the apps is not found, i've downgraded from 4.1.1 before, any help ?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  i wouldent think so. Unless it was part of a path it was also searching.
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> ie: /media/stuff  vs /media/stuff2  ;)
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> but i think locate by default ignores /media/ so thats a bad example
[05:41] <bouma> Dr_Willis: also, if you are familiar with catfish, do you know how to do a * search. it appears you need a constraining term
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  i rarely use any of those things. I just recall seeing catfish on the xubuntu install i did an hr ago. ;)
[05:41] <sonnet420> Any one have experience with the home folder encryption
[05:41] <null_dev> So no one knows why it would fail to load the configuration file?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> sonnet420:  seen a lot of people have BAD experiences with it. ;)
[05:41] <sonnet420> that's not good then lol
[05:41] <bouma> Dr_Willis: i suppose the same applies to the ctrl-f nautilus search. how to use wildcards ?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> sonnet420:  i stay away from it. :)
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> bouma:  never noticed. or tried.  I imagine the tools may support regular expressions some how
[05:42] <sonnet420> probably best to just keep an encrypted folder instead then huh
[05:42] <sonnet420> if i encrypt the folder with an outside program would it affect my login?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> catfish can use * - or so the docs say.
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Catfish
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> Catfish is Graphical User Interface for many different search tools such as find and locate.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> aparently catfish supports --> find, (s)locate, doodle, tracker, beagle, strigi and pinot
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> now i have trippled my knowledge of catfish. ;)
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> !info catfish
[05:47] <null_dev> It was noscript, even though I had it set to allow all scripts globally
[05:48] <bouma> but not regular expressions it appears.. and neither does the ctrl-f nautilus search
[05:48] <bouma> its wierd cause nautilus has the ctrl-s feature which mentions (omg) *.*
[05:49] <bouma> but ctrl-f, and say, *.mp4 does nothing.. although mp4 works for mp4's, there is no way to do *
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> one of the catfish sites mentions 6.1 has 'improved wildcard support' :) but i cant really find any docs on what wildcards it supports
[05:50] <bouma> http://askubuntu.com/questions/81740/how-to-use-enhance-the-nautilus-search-option
[05:51] <bouma> this is the first question, but two people helpfully appear to answer by telling to use something else (gnome-search-tool) or to do something else instead
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> nautiuls dosent have the feature.. so it dosent have the feature. ;)
[05:52] <bouma> its almost risible. and i have loved linux and opensource software for 10yr+, but..
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> part of the general trend at dumbing things down for the lowest-skilled users.
[05:53] <geirha> bouma: Minor nitpicking; *.mp4 is a glob pattern, not a regular expression.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> ;) globby!
[05:53] <bouma> geirha: thanks, nomenclature can be power
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> I got the book 'mastering regular expressions' :) i just found it in the garrage today
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> eery time i reread it.. i learn somthing new.
[05:55] <geirha> The main problem with regular expressions is that nearly every command/program use a different dialect
[05:55] <bouma> this is silly though, i could probably get some immediate solution with find. and im using irssi now, and like the commandline for lots of stuff. but i just want a list i cant sort with gui attribute tabs
[05:55] <bouma> *i can sort
[05:58] <yojimbo_> indomitos
[06:05] <energizer1> Hello, can I get some help filing a bug report? I've never done it before. I know what the problem is and how to fix it every time it happens.
[06:05] <bouma> geirha: yes, and in this case if nautilus does support globs or re it does it in a way that is different from the ctrl-s pattern select feature
[06:07] <geirha> You can apparently add a filetype criteria to the search; but it seems pretty useless since you have to search for something first before those options become available.
[06:14] <energizer1> Hello, can I get some help filing a bug report? I've never done it before.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !bug
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> bot  is dead? :() egads
[06:15] <energizer1> i imagine the bot will tell me to read the ubuntu.com community page
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> check the bug reports page and se eif its allready been filed, and any fixs have been released
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> that would be step 1 i imagine
[06:15] <energizer1> i havent found anything for it on launchpad, but ive found an ubuntu forums post which is exactly the problem im having (and it is weird)
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> also check askubuntu.com to see if others have had the same issue.  post your fix to their question , would be a nice thing to do also.
[06:15] <energizer1> (and the solution provided works)
[06:16] <energizer1> its this thing: http://askubuntu.com/questions/296801/aboutblank-opens-in-chromium-when-i-type-into-the-dash
[06:16] <energizer1> ya their solution does work. but this problem shouldn't happen in the first place, which i think makes it a bug
[06:16] <somsip> energizer1: that's old. Are you sure it's not been FITNR?
[06:17] <energizer1> im 13.04
[06:17] <energizer1> i guess it couldve been in saucy but i havent encountered anything on launchpad
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> heh - i got that same bug on my one pc..  :)
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> i just never ntoiced what was making chromium open at times
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> i dident even type into it..
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> its not affecting my 13.10 box's however.
[06:18] <somsip> energizer1: ah - I read it as a chromium bug. My bad. Maybe worth logging the bug then, but you might find it has been addressed in prep for 13.10
[06:19] <somsip> energizer1: bugs aren't always fixed in response to a report, so it's possible it has been addressed
[06:20] <energizer1> Dr_Willis: you think it's been fixed in saucy?
[06:20] <energizer1>  i was looking forward to contributing something :(
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> energizer1:  it aparently only kicks in when your credentials for online accounts get messed up. I have that red gear that shows they are messed up  on 13.10 :)
[06:21] <somsip> energizer1: still file it. You might just find it gets closed as FITNR that's all
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> but i MAY have 'include online results' turned off.
[06:21] <bouma> geirha: yeah who ever wrote the gui + search constrain features when it appears you cannot do a universal search, um well i appreciate their effort but .. ahem
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> I have include online results on.. So it does seem to be fixed in 13.10 energizer1
[06:22] <entangled|home> ohai everyone
[06:23] <energizer1> somsip: Dr_Willis: so i run ubuntu-bug and tell it "other problem" and it tells me that i need to specify a PID, but i dont know what PID i should use
[06:23] <energizer1> Dr_Willis: hm will i guess if its fixed then so it goes
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> energizer1:  no idea really. PID changes each time you run an app. ;)
[06:23] <somsip> energizer1: I have no experience of that, so I can't help
[06:23] <entangled|home> so, I come from an age of editing menu.lst.... perhaps someone can inform me of the best way to go about adding nodmraid to my boot options without destroying grub2?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> entangled|home:  /etc/default/grub  theres a default options line i belive.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> entangled|home:  it should mention 'quiet splash'
[06:24] <energizer1> Dr_Willis: somsip: oh, do you not normally file with ubuntu-bug? how do you like to do it?
[06:24] <entangled|home> holy crap
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> energizer1:  i rarely file bug reports. ;)  i tend to skim them and confirm others
[06:24]  * entangled|home is a fool
[06:24] <entangled|home> thanks man
[06:25] <somsip> energizer1: I don't remember the last time I found a bug. Probably directly to launchpad if I did
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash "
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> entangled|home:  :) the grub2 docs/wiki/forum posts show ots of neat tricks heh
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> entangled|home:  dont forget to rerun 'sudo update-grub' after editing the file
[06:25] <entangled|home> a thousand times thank you
[06:25] <energizer1> alright, im gonna let sleeping dawgs lie. thanks yall
[06:26] <entangled|home> fucking dmraid loaded by default and destroyed my mdadm settings on 13.04
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever used raid. ;)
[06:26] <entangled|home> mdadm is sexy
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> seen way to many disasters with raid in here. ;P
[06:27] <entangled|home> my fault for upgrading and not checking changelogs
[06:29] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem with xscreensaver, don't authenticate even with correct password
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> neat grub2 trick.. You can make it play a tune at boot up. ;)  see the end of the /etc/default/grub file. ;)
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 4 440 4 440 4 349 3 523 1 440 4 349 3 523 1 440 8 659 4 659 4 659 4 698 3 523 1 415 4 349 3 523 1 440 8"
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> plays some muzak ;P
[06:31] <aeon-ltd> really?
[06:31] <entangled|home> Dr_Willis, I like the cut of you jib
[06:31] <energizer1> Hey, I've always been curious. For you experts, (Dr_willis, among others), what do you guys do professionally?
[06:31] <aeon-ltd> i'm assmuning the numbers represent hertz, but how do you do timings?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> I work for Chrysler ;)
[06:31] <aeon-ltd> *assuming
[06:31] <entangled|home> I work for an IT consulting firm
[06:32] <energizer1> Dr_Willis: as a computer person?
[06:32] <entangled|home> we specialize in delivering MS solutions. lol
[06:32] <energizer1> entangled|home: hahaha
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> energizer1:  i barely touch a comptuer at work.. :) well for my job.. I chat on my phone/tablet all day
[06:32]  * entangled|home looks at the zero MS products at his house
[06:32] <entangled|home> I may not drink the kool-aid though
[06:33] <Dr_Willis>  1 down vote
[06:33] <Dr_Willis>  
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> According to the GRUB manual, the first note is a 'tempo', and each following pair of numbers are duration and pitch.
[06:33] <energizer1> well that's interesting.
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> oops - mispaste :)
[06:33] <FloodBot1> Dr_Willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> that's cool
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> now to make the windows jingle
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> ive only found 2 tunes. Imperial Death march, and mario bro.s ;)
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> i pasted the imperal one above
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> note that this does NOT always work on all pcs. I definatly have some that aparently cant beep from grub. (no built in speaker?)
[06:35]  * entangled|home adds imperial to his grub config
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> and if you get the tune wrong.. you do NOT get a grub menu untill the tune is done.
[06:36] <entangled|home> lol
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> i got some # wrong once. so it played a steady beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep   for like 4 min. ;)
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> then it booted
[06:36] <aeon-ltd> ok
[06:37] <energizer1> this sounds like a fun project: midi-> grub converter
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> there is that 'beep' command that can also play tunes.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> ive put that in rc.local befor.
[06:38] <entangled|home> Dr_Willis, thanks again for the quick expertise. I just booted this install and realized I was borked a bit.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> but the syntax i belive is differnt then the grub stuff. -   and again. some times it dont work. if the pc has no built in speaker
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> ive had headless servers setup where they play a tune. so i know when they are fully booted up. ;)
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> or have them eject/retract the cd tray..
[06:39] <entangled|home> So, how active is this channel usually? I see lots of new users popping in, but I assume that is due to this being a default chan for xchat in Ubuntu
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> this is the main ubuntu support channel entangled|home  so its quiet active at times
[06:40] <Dr_Willis>  it is 3am in the usa. ;) so its a slow time now.
[06:40] <entangled|home> Sweet. I will hang around and offer what I can
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> on release day - this place is a madhouse
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> i tend to stay off IRC for that week.
[06:40] <entangled|home> hey, I am USA Central time. It's only 1:30 here
[06:41] <NuSuey> guys, anybody know why is the displayport/hdmi audio set as default everytime I reboot my pc? how can I setup that my speakers will be the output (default output) ..
[06:41] <entangled|home> I frequent several other channels though. #cisco is really helpful
[06:41] <NuSuey> fyi.. its 08:41am here :P europe
[06:43] <entangled|home> NuSuey, what does the future hold? More of the same I assume.
[06:44] <NuSuey> entangled|home: pandas & pokemon ..
[06:44] <NuSuey> (weird question, weird answer)
[06:44] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem with xscreensaver, don't authenticate even with correct password
[06:45] <entangled|home> NuSuey, I assume one can change the default audio device but I am still stuck in an era of alsaconf and that does not translate to pulse so well
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> MoL0ToV:  what keyboard layout are you using?
[06:45] <MoL0ToV> italian
[06:45] <MoL0ToV> but password is only of letters and numbers
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> MoL0ToV:  perhaps the screensaver is using a differnt layout.
[06:45] <NuSuey> entangled|home: I can change it ..but everytime I reboot it sets the default output as the hdmi output :/
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> other then that. no ideas MoL0ToV
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> NuSuey:  :) hmm. i had to do the reverse for a long time.. but now it uses hdmi and thatsa what i need
[06:46] <MoL0ToV> Dr_Willis, is possible that authenticator don't work with xscreensaver?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> NuSuey:  i have noticed it defaults to the analog - if i have a headphone plugged in.
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> MoL0ToV:  what 'authenticator' ? you mean where it asks for your password to unlock?
[06:47] <MoL0ToV> yes
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> I tend to disable the lock on screensaver.  so never ntoiced it working or not
[06:47] <MoL0ToV> i need it it's a public installation
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> try the gnome-screensavers and not xscreensacers and see if they work perhaps.
[06:48] <NuSuey> Dr_Willis: ah :P well I'm happy that with the open source (amd/ati) drivers I can have hdmi working on my internal gpu (since I have a 6850 + some internal graphic card)  + audio .. which never worked with the ati/amd drivers.. so I'm HAPPY that it works and performance is quite good .. so it isn't a BIG issue.. but it sucks :P
[06:49] <entangled|home> NuSuey, at least you know enough to know how to change it. Why not make a script that runs on boot to set the default if you can't get the system to do it for you?
[06:49] <NuSuey> entangled|home: yeah, just didn't had the time...and was wondering if there isn't another option to set it up in ubuntu
[06:49] <entangled|home> it's a little kludgy, but it will save you 10 seconds or so
[06:50] <MoL0ToV> Dr_Willis, also gnome screensaver don't work
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/59577/replace-xscreensaver-with-gnome-screensaver-xubuntu
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> MoL0ToV:  you mean it dosent accept the pasw3word or dosent startup?
[06:51] <entangled|home> Not knowing any better or having done the requisite research I would just add a script to boot and call it good
[06:52] <MoL0ToV> it dosent accept the pasw3word
[06:52] <NuSuey> entangled|home: yeah, haven't done any scripts so far ..but saw some post somebody trying to do that ..so I guess I'll research and then implement it :P
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/128785/lock-screen-password-incorrect   MoL0ToV  - perhaps a fix..
[06:53] <NuSuey> btw, I was always under the impresion that the open source drivers (amd/ati) are shitty :o dumb me
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> MoL0ToV:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingScreenLocking
[06:53] <NuSuey> performance is great, audio/hdmi from the other internal card works.. well.. everything is great :P
[06:59] <entangled|home> well it is really late here. Goodnight all.
[06:59] <NuSuey> entangled|home: gn & thanks
[06:59] <entangled|home> If you kids are around some other night (or morning depending on TZ) I shall chat with you again
[07:03] <Nimble> Dr_Willis, will that GRUB_INIT_TUNE play on the internal speaker?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Nimble:  it uses the ones on the motherboard as far as i know
[07:03] <Nimble> :V
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> same as the beep command uses
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install beep
[07:04] <Nimble> doing that right now..
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> beep -f 300.7 -r 2 -d 100 -l 400
[07:04] <e5143C93> do any of you know how to continuously monitor the number of open file descriptors?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> beep has no affect on this pc. ;() i bet that means grubs tune wont work either
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> e5143C93:  you know how to get it one time?
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> if so how? ;)
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> then you could use the 'watch' command to run whatevr command shows you the info..  over and over and over automatically (every few sec)
[07:06] <e5143C93> DR_Willies: yes with lsof -p [pid] but I want to see what happens as I run a benchmark
[07:06] <Nimble> hm, I know I have an internal speaker but I don't know what device it is under /dev
[07:06] <Nimble> oh well
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Nimble:  it could also be the pcskr module is not loaded. since its blacklisted
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> sudo modprobe pcspkr
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> dmesg --> [204376.830359] input: PC Speaker as /devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input23
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> still no beeping for me. ;(
[07:08] <Nimble> oh right
[07:08] <R0b0t1> how do I restart the gnome desktop
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> the good old days of speaker-removal :)
[07:09] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, from where?
[07:10] <crypticmofo> guys i want to install java se 1.7 or 1.6 will apt-cache search find this ?
[07:10] <R0b0t1> command line
[07:10] <Nimble> yep
[07:10] <Nimble> no beeping here either
[07:10] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, which one the tty
[07:10] <R0b0t1> sauerbraten f'd up the WM so I need to restart it
[07:10] <R0b0t1> ... no, just an emulate
[07:10] <R0b0t1> or
[07:10] <R0b0t1> but it shouldn't matter
[07:10] <FloodBot1> R0b0t1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:10] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, YOu shutdown compiz?
[07:11] <R0b0t1> ...? Does it really use compiz still?
[07:11] <R0b0t1> I don't know
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, unity does.
[07:11] <R0b0t1> any decent WM should be able to replace
[07:11] <R0b0t1> I already said I'm using gnome3
[07:11] <R0b0t1> basically what's the executable name for gnome3 because I can't easily find it
[07:11] <R0b0t1> I'm on metacity right now
[07:12] <wilee-nilee> R0b0t1, I had my computer on, I just came back from work, I did not read every smidgen you have posted. the gnome shell is mutter, gnome 3 is under multiple desktops.
[07:13] <e5143C93> Dr_Willis: Thanks! the watch command does the job:)
[07:16] <rohan> hi .. does anyone know how to enable hybrid suspend (suspend2both) on ubuntu 13.04?
[07:26] <AcidRain2012> what is a tool for linux that is good gui to build flash applications?
[07:29] <HypnotiX> Hello, how can i see what apache servers i have installed
[07:29] <HypnotiX> because when i try to restart xampp it says that another webserver is already running apache
[07:29] <auronandace> !xampp | HypnotiX
[07:30] <freedom> try - pgrep apache
[07:30] <auronandace> HypnotiX: xampp isn't supported here
[07:31] <HypnotiX> a bunch of numbers are displayed freedom
[07:31] <freedom> so maybe kill it?
[07:32] <Fudus> sudo killall apache* whoo
[07:32] <HypnotiX> whats the better alternative to xampp?
[07:34] <blazemore> !lamp
[07:34] <blazemore> HypnotiX: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[07:34] <HypnotiX> 13.04
[07:34] <blazemore> Xampp only runs on Windows though
[07:34] <blazemore> So whatever you think you're running, it's not that
[07:35] <HypnotiX> well its lampp i guess
[07:35] <blazemore> HypnotiX: How did you install it?
[07:35] <blazemore> lamp just stands for "linux apache mysql php"
[07:35] <HypnotiX> manually
[07:35] <blazemore> That doesn't explain ANYTHING
[07:36] <blazemore> If I wanted to install apache etc in the same way you did, what would I have to do?
[07:36] <HypnotiX> xampp-linux-1.8.2-0-installer.run
[07:36] <HypnotiX> i installed this
[07:36] <blazemore> Where did you get that?
[07:36] <blazemore> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:36] <HypnotiX> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[07:36] <blazemore> Please can you stop messing around with that sort of thing, and install the packages from the official repositories
[07:36] <Fudus> what do you intend to do with it?
[07:37] <blazemore> Unless you have a specific reason to need that specific distribution, in which case you'll have to support it yourself
[07:37] <HypnotiX> run the projects i make on localhost
[07:37] <blazemore> HypnotiX: Read, understand and follow these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:37] <HypnotiX> yeah i understand that now blazemore but back then i didnt know any better :)
[07:37] <blazemore> sudo apt-get install tasksel; sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[07:37] <blazemore> that will do it, but it may not work now depending on what that installer did
[07:37] <Fudus> so you need th follow their installation notes
[07:38] <pepper_chico> hi, I running an ubuntu installation on my macbookpro, I feel it's constantly hotter compared to running OS X, anyone with experience on this?
[07:38] <HypnotiX> well i am trying to remove xampp now
[07:39] <Fudus> go to their support lists first and ask how to fix your problem
[07:39] <pepper_chico> hi?
[07:39] <Fudus> pepper_chico: it is to be expected because of driver issues
[07:39] <WotWhere> howto check if mail is being sent through mail or sendmail ?
[07:40] <WotWhere> on ubuntu 12.04
[07:40] <WotWhere> apache2 php5.3
[07:40] <pepper_chico> Fudus, I'm running an macbook pro early 2011, it's i7, no graphics card, just intel hd 3000
[07:40] <Fudus> ubuntu's default is postfix, and you put in the details when you installed it
[07:41] <somsip> WotWhere: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini should have a line for the sendmail package being used
[07:41] <pepper_chico> it keeps constantly warm, without doing nothing intensive
[07:41] <pepper_chico> =/
[07:42] <pepper_chico> it's not too much warm, it's medium warm, I'm looking for any help for cooling it down
[07:45] <Fudus> http://askubuntu.com/questions/285434/is-there-a-power-saving-application-similar-to-jupiter dunno if it works at all
[07:45] <HypnotiX> i removed xampp but i still have an apache server running
[07:45] <HypnotiX> theres a folder apache2 in /etc
[07:48] <tutak> Hello everybody
[07:49] <tutak> i can't seem to install Maven on 11.10
[07:49] <WotWhere> somsip, yes i have added that, but still how to confirm which program is being used?
[07:49] <Fudus> as it is eol, that is to be expected tutak
[07:49] <geirha> tutak: 11.10 is no longer supported. You should upgrade to 12.04
[07:50] <tutak> i get this error http://pastebin.com/rjBFqm0N
[07:51] <tutak> do you think this is related to the version?
[07:51] <somsip> WotWhere: check headers on delivered emails, disable any other mail programs and see if it still works, disable the mail program you're using and make sure it fails...many other ideas probably
[07:54] <tutak> Is there any work around to this besides having to upgrade?
[07:54] <WotWhere> somsip : what am i looking for in the headers? how to disable mail program? I know that sendmail  is being used by looking at the log created
[07:55] <blazemore> Hi tutak, that's not actually an error and won't actually stop you installing anything. What command are you running to install your program, and what *full* output do you get?
[07:55] <blazemore> HypnotiX: reboot, then tasksel again
[07:55] <HypnotiX> blazemore: can i change the www folder from apache ?
[07:55] <blazemore> HypnotiX: Yes, look in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:56] <zimbo> is it possible to install vim source via apt?
[07:56] <zimbo> what is the package called?
[07:56] <ikonia> !info vim
[07:56] <blazemore> zimbo: apt-get source bim
[07:56] <blazemore> vim*
[07:56] <Mace268> Can anyone recommend a music player that suppoers cuesheets? Or is there a rhythmbox plugin?
[07:56] <Mace268> supports*
[07:57] <HypnotiX> blazemore: dont see the line to change my documents folder
[07:57] <blazemore> Mace268: Banshee, Aqualung, Clementine, VLC
[07:57] <blazemore> HypnotiX: Have you actually got Apache installed properly now?
[07:57] <HypnotiX> dont think so
[07:57] <zimbo> thanks
[07:57] <HypnotiX> i need to remove this apache2 first :))
[07:57] <Mace268> blazemore, thanks
[07:57] <blazemore> HypnotiX: You should be able to install" over the top" of it
[07:57] <HypnotiX> ah ok
[07:57] <blazemore> HypnotiX: Use tasksel to install LAMP server
[07:58] <blazemore> HypnotiX: Then look on Apache's website for information on how to configure, Apache, or ask in #Apache channel on this server
[07:58] <HypnotiX> alright
[07:58] <HypnotiX> thank you
[07:58] <ikonia> the apache channel is #httpd
[07:58] <blazemore> ikonia is right
[07:58] <blazemore> HypnotiX: But I believe individual vhosts are defined in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ and loaded in alphabetical order
[08:00] <tutak> blazemore, this is what i did, i have added comments  http://pastebin.com/3VxkHjwR
[08:00] <tutak> i wanted to install maven3 btw
[08:00] <blazemore> tutak: run "sudo apt-get update" first
[08:01] <tutak> ok
[08:02] <tutak> i did, apparently there are errors at the end of it
[08:02] <tutak> should i post them?
[08:03] <blazemore> I know what the errors are
[08:03] <blazemore> Theyre just warnings about duplicate entries in your sources.list file, unless you get errors related to the installation of maven3 package I wouldnt worry
[08:05] <tutak> its talking about some signatures being invalid
[08:05] <tutak> http://pastebin.com/5cEvuhKC
[08:05] <tutak> this is the full output
[08:09] <sgronblom> I can't figure out how to get my Macbook to boot from this USB stick I created
[08:09] <sgronblom> I heard there is some problems related to EFI
[08:10] <sgronblom> But there is no mention of this on the official Ubuntu download/installation instructions
[08:12] <tutak> blazemore, so should i repeat the steps?
[08:18] <tutak> ok its getting downloaded now...
[08:18] <Axlin> sgronblom, I got mine to boot by writing the image to the USB thumb drive with dd and installing rEFIt on my MacBook prior to booting off the thumb drive.
[08:21] <sgronblom> Axlin: I saw that rEFIt is discontinued though
[08:22] <Axlin> Is it? Well, still worked for me.
[08:23] <sgronblom> Axlin: Was the process easy?
[08:23] <Axlin> sgronblom: Yeah. It has an installer.
[08:23] <sgronblom> http://refit.sourceforge.net/ Well "no longer actively maintained"
[08:24] <sgronblom> And then the rest of the ubuntu install was just like a good old install?
[08:25] <sgronblom> I found some looooooooooong page about installing about EFI booting on OS X and decided not to do it when I saw it included manually configuring xorg.conf
[08:25] <Axlin> It should be, but you should partition your HDD in OS X via Disk Utility, not during the Ubuntu installer, or you might run into issues.
[08:26] <Axlin> Yeah, which is why rEFIt is nice. Run the installer, and you're set.
[08:26] <sgronblom> Axlin: What if I just wipe the whole thing?
[08:26] <sgronblom> Axlin: Are you dual booting?
[08:27] <Axlin> I'm dual booting, yeah. If your'e single booting just Ubuntu, this should help you out. https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Single_boot_.2BIBM_Debian_only
[08:28] <sgronblom> Axlin: That page says "Here's a report: it doesn't work. Deleting the MacOS partition causes the system bootloader to not find anything to boot, even rEFIt. DO NOT DO THIS. --frozencemetery"
[08:29] <Axlin> I think that's referring to the second part, as the first section tells you to resize the OS X partition down to 1 GB.
[08:29] <alarkam> hi
[08:30] <reisio> hi
[08:31] <Axlin> sgronblom: Quite honestly you'll probably have an easier time just setting up a dual boot environment, and shrink down OS X as much as you can. Then you don't have to worry about any of that.
[08:31] <Axlin> sgronblom: When you turn your computer on, rEFIt will present you with two icons which denote OS X and Ubuntu. You select it with your arrow keys and you're on your way.
[08:31] <alarkam> How do I get on the Metro interface in Windows 8 on Ubuntu 13.4
[08:32] <reisio> alarkam: draw some rectangles, done
[08:32] <sgronblom> My dreams of running linux on this thing seem to be fading away
[08:32] <reisio> xorg.conf? Shouldn't have anything to do with EFI
[08:33] <sgronblom> It was this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[08:33] <alarkam> I hope more illustration
[08:33] <nackjicholson> hi
[08:34] <nackjicholson> nick ibisedo
[08:34] <reisio> sgronblom: that page attempts to cover every possible issue
[08:34] <sgronblom> One of the complicating factors is that it is my work computer and it came with some dubious Check Point Security full disk encryption software
[08:35] <reisio> sgronblom: and... you need to preserve that?
[08:35] <alarkam> Do you help here
[08:35] <sgronblom> reisio: I would love to get rid of it, if I knew how
[08:35] <sgronblom> This is something that seems to run before OSX starts
[08:36] <Axlin> If it's your work computer, are you even allowed to be doing any of this?
[08:36] <sgronblom> Axlin: I don't care anymore :) The thing keeps crashing quite a lot
[08:36] <sgronblom> I will feign ignorace if caught
[08:37] <reisio> sgronblom: it'd be special indeed if wiping the hard disk didn't eliminate it
[08:37] <Casanova> just wipe it with Hiren
[08:41] <blazemore> tutak: Let me know if you get any errors, or if it works
[08:42] <ThePope> just move the mysql datadir to /mnt/data1 symbolically linked to it attempted to restart, nothing.   Restarted the machine now it works kinda weird.
[08:46] <DamienCassou> hi
[08:47] <DamienCassou> I've been using Ubuntu for years without much problems. I can plug an external monitor to my laptop and it works fine. But, the Displays utility and xrandr can't detect beamers anymore (it used to work with previous ubuntu versions).
[08:47] <reisio> beamers?
[08:48] <llutz> aka "video projector"
[08:48] <reisio> heh
[08:50] <DamienCassou> reisio: beamer = external projector (I think :-))
[08:50] <reisio> you think? :p wasn't it you who said it, heh
[08:50] <DamienCassou> anyone has an idea why xrandr and Displays won't list the beamer?
[08:51] <DamienCassou> reisio: I'm sure I'm talking about external projectors, but I *think* these are called beamer too :-)
[08:51] <reisio> what are you connecting them with?
[08:52] <TillMorelia> Do you have connexion to Canadian ?  http://192.198.85.138/testing.html
[08:52] <DamienCassou> the beamer has a vga port which I plug on a VGA->mini DVI port on my mac book pro
[08:54] <DamienCassou> it's a mini displayport, not mini DVI
[09:11] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:22] <darnir> I need libmetalink but can't find a package / PPA that can provide it. Can someone please help?
[09:26] <darnir> Anyone around to help
[09:26] <darnir> ?
[09:39] <ddssc> anyone knows a tried way to set up a mail client with ms exchange in linux?
[09:42] <nibbler> ddssc: i'm using thunderbird to connect to exchange. its helpful if imap and smtp is configured on the server, as the activesync connecters are not so good
[09:43] <ddssc> nibbler: problem is I dont have pop3 or imap...
[09:54] <blazemore> !details | darnir
[09:58] <blazemore> ddssc: Take a look at DavMail Exchange Gateway http://askubuntu.com/questions/6916/exchange-with-evolution-or-any-other-mail-client
[10:03] <darnir> blazemore: ubottu: I need libmetalink but can't find a package/PPA that provides it.
[10:04] <darnir> I tried compiling from source, but somehow my applications can't detect the so files which do exist in /usr/local/lib/
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> ddssc: I believe Evolution can, you may need an intermediate service to read the server
[10:04] <geirha> darnir: You probably need to update the cache. You do that by running   sudo ldconfig
[10:05] <darnir> geirha: Okay, let me try.
[10:05] <PMJP> hello people
[10:05] <geirha> when ldconfig -p lists the so-file, applications should find it too
[10:06] <darnir> geirha: A sudo ldconfig helped. Thanks!
[10:06] <ddssc> ActionParsnip: well I followd some docu , installed exchange extensions etc but still no dice..
[10:07] <ddssc> now Im looking at this : http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/smb-technologist/connect-the-thunderbird-email-client-to-your-exchange-server/
[10:07] <davetarmac> hey guys o/
[10:08] <blazemore> !info metalink
[10:08] <davetarmac> I've got 12.04 installed and trying to run this:  find: missing argument to `-exec', but it keeps saying that there is a missing argument to -exec
[10:08] <davetarmac> however I've run that command several times before
[10:09] <blazemore> davetarmac: What command are you trying to run, you put the error twice by mistake
[10:09] <davetarmac> whoops! curses Ctrl+V!
[10:09] <davetarmac> I'm trying to run: find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} ;
[10:09] <blazemore> I can't see some of those character
[10:09] <blazemore> Perhaps that has something to do with it
[10:10] <davetarmac> find . -type f -exec chmod 664 {} ; <-- what it is meant to say
[10:11] <davetarmac> blazemore: I typed it in, not copied and pasted like then
[10:11] <blazemore> find . -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[10:11] <blazemore> (asuming you meant 644 not 664)
[10:11] <edo_y> hey
[10:11] <blazemore> Or, how I'd do it: find . -type f | xargs chmod 644
[10:12] <davetarmac> ah right - when it's finished it's update I'll try it with the \
[10:13] <davetarmac> yup - missing \
[10:18] <edo_y> this's my first time using irc...
[10:18] <edo_y> Can anyone see me??
[10:18] <[Gentoo]> yes
[10:18] <edo_y> Yeah!
[10:18] <edo_y> thanks
[10:19] <[Gentoo]> ok
[10:21] <Alvein> Hi all
[10:22] <Alvein> ubuntu 13.04 server.. freeze every 1-2 hours to 60-120 seconds... any idea why?
[10:22] <ikonia> define freeze
[10:22] <Alvein> how?
[10:22] <Alvein> :)
[10:22] <ikonia> don't then
[10:22] <[Gentoo]> overheating, low on ram, could be hundreds of things
[10:23] <Alvein> 20 of 64Gb are free
[10:23] <Alvein> mmm...
[10:23] <ikonia> you have 64GB of ram ?
[10:23] <[Gentoo]> does it freeze for a short while or do you need to reset
[10:23] <Alvein> understood
[10:23] <ikonia> you need to define freeze
[10:24] <ikonia> until that happens - it's a pointless discussion
[10:24] <PMJP> what is it doing just before the freeze?
[10:24] <Alvein> [Gentoo], i don't need reset.. itself begins to work
[10:24] <Alvein> PMJP, web-server
[10:25] <[Gentoo]> Alvein: is that 64GB of RAM or hard disk space
[10:25] <Alvein> RAM
[10:25] <[Gentoo]> well thats out the question
[10:25] <ikonia> this is stupid, define freeze
[10:26] <ikonia> you're just saying random things until you understand what is meant by freeze
[10:26] <[Gentoo]> leave a tail -F /var/log/messages open or similar, might not see anything
[10:26] <ikonia> good lord....
[10:26] <[Gentoo]> ikonia: who me?
[10:26] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: do you have ANY structure to what you are saying,
[10:26] <[Gentoo]> are you always in such a mood
[10:27] <[Gentoo]> if its was  alow ram
[10:27] <ikonia> I'm not in a mod, but throwing random things at a non-descript problem is not useful
[10:27] <[Gentoo]> could br swapping
[10:27] <[Gentoo]> as its not freezing as in panicking
[10:27] <ikonia> who said ram ? you don't even know what he means by "freeze" yet
[10:27] <[Gentoo]> he said it starts working after a while
[10:27] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: you don't know what he means by freeze yet
[10:27] <Alvein> ikonia, freeze = the system is fully available on the network
[10:28] <PMJP> haha
[10:28] <ikonia> Alvein: how can freeze = the system is fully available, that's "normal"
[10:28] <[Gentoo]> ikonia: on the network
[10:28] <Alvein> sorry, not available
[10:28] <[Gentoo]> you have to use some sort of common sense
[10:28] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: no, I don't as he's just corrected it
[10:28] <ikonia> Alvein: right, so it's not freezing, it's dropping off the network, correct ?
[10:29] <[Gentoo]> ikonia: you do have an attitude problem, in fact im waiting for a ban over this nonsense
[10:30] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: you are not structuring help to understanding and fixing the problem - you are just saying random things to a non-descript problem
[10:30] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: I suggest you try to get valid information before offering guidence
[10:30] <[Gentoo]> i asked him how much ram he had to rule out any kind of freezing from low ram
[10:30] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: it's NOT freezing
[10:31] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: hence why I said "valid information" and get a definition
[10:31] <[Gentoo]> he said "freezing"
[10:31] <[Gentoo]> so i assumed it was freezing
[10:31] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: yes, but he then corrected it
[10:31] <[Gentoo]> lol
[10:31] <[Gentoo]> ok
[10:31] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: hence why I said "define freeze"
[10:31] <ikonia> before offering random things
[10:31] <[Gentoo]> so i asked him if it was a temp freeze or if it needed a reset
[10:31] <Alvein> ikonia, You are partly right. A script that checks the system from the inside (counting each second the amount of free memory) - will not be interrupted, wrote to the file.
[10:32] <ikonia> Alvein: what part am I wrong about then ?
[10:32] <ikonia> Alvein: please explain where my understanding is wrong
[10:32] <ikonia> [Gentoo]: it's NOT a freeze,
[10:32] <Alvein> ikonia, but I'm not sure of the correctness of this test
[10:33] <ikonia> Alvein: ok, so symptoms are a.) drops off network b.) internal script continues to run, correct/false ?
[10:33] <MrQuist> jesus
[10:33] <MrQuist> >these moods
[10:35] <Alvein> ikonia, a) yep, b) internal _shell_ script continues run..
[10:35] <Alvein> ikonia, tell me what other tests can be done to make sure that this is a problem in the network / ISP
[10:35] <ikonia> Alvein: ok, so it doesn't sound like it's freezing at all
[10:35] <BrixSat> hello
[10:36] <ikonia> Alvein: I would suggest two approaches, as I suspect the problem will be between your personal client (I'm assuming you are ssh'ing in) and your server, rather than your server / public internet
[10:36] <BrixSat> where do i get help about graphics card (cedar view)?
[10:36] <Alvein> ikonia, Technical support proves that they have no network problems
[10:36] <ikonia> Alvein: ok, so that sounds like a problem between you're personal client and the server
[10:36] <ikonia> Alvein: you can setup some tests to prove/disprove that
[10:37] <Alvein> ikonia, I ran the test .. 2 servers in a data center, one passes out, second to none
[10:37] <ikonia> Alvein: what test did you run ?
[10:37] <Guest20710> helou
[10:38] <panum> I'd like to build an SSI from a set of computers. I'm curious if there is any good tutorials out there? I tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntuClustering/UbuntuKerrighedClusterGuide without luck, and it's very outdated
[10:38] <Alvein> ikonia, mtr from stable server to unstable.. servers in one subnetwork :)
[10:38] <ikonia> Alvein: mtr ?
[10:38] <Alvein> mtr -s 1500 -r -c 10 -i 0.1 host_address
[10:39] <Alvein> * -c 1000
[10:39] <ikonia> Alvein: is this over an internal network, or the public internet
[10:39] <Alvein> public
[10:39] <Alvein> Hetzner
[10:39] <ikonia> Alvein: where, as in what application do you see what looks like a freeze ?
[10:40] <ikonia> ssh by anychance.....
[10:41] <Alvein> ikonia, ssh, mysql, web-server logs (visited the project)
[10:41] <ikonia> Alvein: what do you mean mysql
[10:41] <ikonia> how do you "see" this in mysql
[10:42] <Alvein> replication between 2 servers... connection lost + logs from one web server to database other server
[10:42] <ikonia> Alvein: ah, so mysql replication is failing
[10:43] <Alvein> ikonia, example one: https://dl-web.dropbox.com/spa/4pwvca36405d6np/o-pr0h2b.png
[10:44] <ikonia> Alvein: what do the red lines mean ?
[10:44] <ikonia> Alvein: slow or failure ?
[10:44] <Alvein> ikonia, example 2: (periodicly) OperationalError: (2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'FREEZE SERVER IP' (110)")
[10:44] <ikonia> Alvein: where are you getting that message ?
[10:45] <MrQuist> Alvein
[10:45] <MrQuist> are you russian?
[10:45] <Alvein> ikonia, Do not pay attention. this is an internal tool that shows the page load time is greater than 1.5 seconds
[10:45] <Alvein> MrQuist, yep.. my english not good :)
[10:46] <ikonia> Alvein: you're english is fine - keep working the problem through
[10:46] <MrQuist> Is idei72 your customer or are you working for him?
[10:46] <ikonia> idei72
[10:46] <ikonia> what's that ?
[10:46] <MrQuist> http://www.idei72.ru/shop/good/OF083183/
[10:47] <Alvein> idei72.ru idei74.ru and other is my customer
[10:47] <ikonia> Alvein: are the webservers on different machines to the mysql server ?
[10:48] <Alvein> ikonia, 2 servers, 2 mysql servers, little interaction between them
[10:48] <ikonia> Alvein: are the webservers on different machines to the mysql server ?
[10:50] <lost_and_unfound> greetings, I'm using ubuntu 12.04. My IP and details are assigned via DHCP. When looking in /etc/resolv.conf my nameserver is 127.0.0.1. Where can I check what server(s) 127.0.0.1 queries ?
[10:50] <Alvein> ikonia, on a single server web server to clients and the base for reading and writing for the client site
[10:50] <Alvein> ikonia, on the second server working web server and database for reading. From the second to the first change written
[10:51] <ikonia> Alvein: which server is "freezing" the public web server, or the mysql/web server
[10:51] <Alvein> public mysql/web server :)
[10:51] <ikonia> Alvein: you just said they are two different servers
[10:51] <ikonia> which is it ?
[10:52] <ikonia> the one that is public web server, OR the one with the mysql database/web server on
[10:52] <BrixSat> where do i get help about graphics card (cedar view)?
[10:52] <snkt> hiii'
[10:52] <snkt> while configuring printer through firefox on localhost:631/admin .... I am getting "internal server error"
[10:52] <snkt> can anyone help me...
[10:53] <MrQuist> throw your printer away
[10:53] <snkt> MrQuist, why????
[10:53] <MrQuist> snkt: 1. what does this have to do with ubuntu? 2. How do you access a "printer" over "localhost"? Does the printer run ubuntu?
[10:54] <snkt> MrQuist, on ubuntu 11.10
[10:54] <MrQuist> This sounds like you've plugged a mouse and keyboard and monitor in to a printer
[10:54] <MrQuist> is that correct?
[10:54] <ikonia> it's the cups web interface
[10:54] <MrQuist> localhost
[10:54] <geirha> snkt: 11.10 is no longer supported
[10:54] <ikonia> yes, on localhost
[10:54] <MrQuist> you have cups, on localhost
[10:54] <Alvein> ikonia, first server have web/mysql(read,write) - they freeze. Second server have web/mysql(read).. they write data to first server. from first mysql to second mysql replication data
[10:54] <ikonia> that is correct
[10:54] <ikonia> MrQuist: of course, you run cups on localhost
[10:54] <MrQuist> cups is not installed on the printer?
[10:54] <ikonia> MrQuist: no
[10:54] <MrQuist> its a stupid USB printer?
[10:55] <ikonia> MrQuist: what are you talking about
[10:55] <ikonia> MrQuist: cups is a a part of the linux printing stack on the desktop machine
[10:55] <MrQuist> The fact that i also know printers with an SSH interface on which you can log in and install cups on to
[10:55] <snkt> MrQuist, what are you talking about
[10:55] <MrQuist> so i just want to make that clear
[10:55] <MrQuist> this sounds more like a CUPS issue itself
[10:55] <snkt> can anyone help me here....
[10:55] <ikonia> MrQuist: stop, you're just saying random things
[10:56] <MrQuist> ikonia, what the hell is wrong with you and your "You're saying random things!"
[10:56] <ikonia> MrQuist: you are though
[10:56] <MrQuist> I am most definately not
[10:56] <Alvein> ikonia, work correctly wo freeze until yesterday.. yesterday change Hard Drive and install ubuntu 13.04.. and problem start...
[10:56] <geirha> snkt: Upgrade to Ubuntu 12.04 and see if it works there
[10:56] <ikonia> Alvein: what was it running before ?
[10:56] <nevyn> is pulseaudio on raring being crashy for anyone else?
[10:56] <ikonia> Alvein: (before you run ubuntu 13.04)
[10:57] <PMJP> I would love to help but I am new to Ubuntu myself
[10:57] <Alvein> ikonia: 12.10..
[10:57] <PMJP> pulseaudio works fine for me
[10:58] <ikonia> Alvein: ok - so based on everything you've said, it's quite hard to be %100 clear where the problem is
[10:58] <ikonia> Alvein: here are the things you need to look at
[10:58] <ikonia> Alvein: 1.) mysqld - connection limit, make sure you have enough connections available
[10:59] <ikonia> Alvein: 2.) setup a STATIC web page that does not need mysql, write a script to check that internally and log if it fails, and then check it externally over the internet, and check if it fails
[10:59] <khaos_>  hi i have lost thunderbird notification about new email in ubuntu 13.04 is there any way to get it back??
[10:59] <ikonia> Alvein: that should give you more information about where the problem is
[11:00] <ikonia> Alvein: do you understand what I've just said ?
[11:00] <blazemore> khaos_: Check in thunderbird settings to see if there is an option for notifications
[11:00] <khaos_> blazemore, it's enabled
[11:00] <khaos_> it stopped today
[11:00] <surt> Trying to figure out NFS4 server.
[11:00] <surt> /etc/exports:
[11:00] <surt> /DIRECTORY1					10.1.1.2/10.1.1.255(rw,no_subtree_check)
[11:00] <surt> /DIRECTORY2					10.1.1.2/10.1.1.255(rw,no_subtree_check)
[11:00] <surt> Is this correct?
[11:00] <FloodBot1> surt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:01] <surt> whoops. sorry.
[11:01] <Alvein> ikonia, 2) I tried it. On the network server for all protocols not available
[11:01] <ikonia> Alvein: checking a web page that did not depend on mysql ?
[11:01] <Alvein> ikonia, 1) That's what I see and explore
[11:01] <PMJP> well later guys
[11:02] <Catbuntu> Does Unity support tray icons? (i.e. Java's TrayIcon)
[11:02] <Alvein> ikonia, check ssh port
[11:02] <Alvein> :)
[11:02] <ikonia> Alvein: ok, so ssh drops off the network too ?
[11:02] <Alvein> ikonia, yep
[11:02] <ikonia> Alvein: ok, that's useful
[11:02] <ikonia> Alvein: 1.) check the syslog to see if the internet goes up/down 2.) ask for the switch statistics for the switch port the server is plugged into, see if that port goes up/down
[11:03] <ikonia> Alvein: sorry 1.) check the syslog to see if the interface goes up/down 2.) ask for the switch statistics for the switch port the server is plugged into, see if that port goes up/down
[11:05] <Alvein> ikonia, Thank you very much for your help. Unfortunately I have to go. I'll see all of your advice and if I discover solutions problems - will be back .. tomorrow :)
[11:05] <vlt> Hello. I got a problem with the program LPMT (an app developed with openFrameworks). It uses gstreamer for video. On my Ubuntu 12.04 the video does not play. Does anyone here know LPMT and has an idea what might be missing?
[11:05] <ikonia> Alvein: good luck
[11:05] <khaos_> any idea how to fix or reset ubuntu 13.04 notification tray options?
[11:05] <khaos_> because there are stopped
[11:05] <Alvein> ikonia, u 2
[11:06] <surt> Trying to figure out NFS4 server. Inside /etc/exports: "/DIRECTORY1					10.1.1.2/10.1.1.255(rw,no_subtree_check)". Is this correct?
[11:06] <surt> I can't seem to connect to it...
[11:07] <teshibokai> i need retalik audio
[11:07] <teshibokai> can i fined him?
[11:07] <[Gentoo]> he's in the kernel
[11:07] <bazhang> teshibokai, realtek?
[11:07] <teshibokai> yes
[11:08] <teshibokai> vido  & audio
[11:08] <bazhang> teshibokai, open a terminal, type lspci, then paste.ubuntu.com with the output, give us the url
[11:09] <bazhang> [Gentoo], if you wish to be helpful, please be more precise
[11:09] <teshibokai> oh thx bazhang
[11:09] <geirha> surt: What is 10.1.1.2/10.1.1.255 supposed to mean?
[11:10] <geirha> surt: Perhaps you wanted 10.1.1.0/24 ?
[11:10] <surt> geirha: I thought that string would allow all IP addresses to connect in the given range...
[11:10] <surt> geirha: What is the 24 for? Port?
[11:11] <geirha> surt: abbriviated subnetmask; same as 10.1.1.0/255.255.255.0
[11:11] <geirha> allows 10.1.1.1-254 access
[11:12] <surt> OK. changed/restarting.
[11:13] <surt> geirha: Why 24 by the way? Why not 255?
[11:14] <geirha> 24 is a shorthand for 255.255.255.0, meaning "first 24 bits"
[11:14] <lost_and_unfound> surt: /24 is shorthand for 255.255.255.0
[11:15] <s0m3bOdY> 32-24=8, 2^8=256
[11:15] <geirha> surt: On the host you want to mount it on, ''ip -o -4 addr show''  should show  ''... inet 10.1.1.X/24 ...''  where X is a number between 1-254 inclusive
[11:15] <surt> Oh. Well it did the trick. Thanks folks, not sure where you learn this degree of networking but I envy you.
[11:16] <s0m3bOdY> it's hard. And sources are scarce nowadays ....
[11:16] <geirha> ##networking might know of some good resources
[11:17] <surt> Is it shorthand only in the realm of the program interpreting this file, or is this a generic networking term?
[11:17] <refur1975> someone here from sweden? ;)
[11:17] <Ben64> !se | refur1975
[11:17] <geirha> surt: It has become a fairly generic representation
[11:18] <s0m3bOdY> use wikipedia, its your best friend
[11:18] <refur1975> thanks
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> geirha: i believe it is defacto :)
[11:18] <s0m3bOdY> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnetwork
[11:20] <spacedust> hi i am using ubuntu 12.04 lts and i disabled wireless networks from the networking thingy next to the clock
[11:20] <spacedust> and now it is gray and i can't enable it back , it says its disabled due to wireless switch, but i press the button and nothing happens
[11:20] <hke> thingy -> indicator
[11:20] <surt> Thanks again folks. toodeloo.
[11:21] <geirha> Ah, yes. According to that wikipedia article, it is a standardized format now. Back in the day when I started learning about networking, the abbriviated form didn't exist.
[11:21] <spacedust> hke: that
[11:22] <spacedust> hke: i restarted the laptop since then and pressed the wifi buttoin and restarted and modprobed and everything
[11:22] <spacedust> and nothing happens , cant get back to wifi , and i have no cable
[11:22] <s0m3bOdY> check your FN key + WiFi button somewhere
[11:22] <s0m3bOdY> you most probably have switched it off
[11:22] <spacedust> s0m3bOdY: it is a single button and i pressed it but nothing happens
[11:23] <s0m3bOdY> do you have FN key?
[11:23] <spacedust> s0m3bOdY: oh and i didnt press it in the first place :)
[11:23] <spacedust> i disabled wifi from the indicator and it says that since then
[11:23] <spacedust> s0m3bOdY: i have fn key but don't need to press fn for wifi key, wifi key is stand alone button !
[11:23] <s0m3bOdY> which model is your laptop?
[11:23] <spacedust> hp
[11:23] <spacedust> with intel wifi
[11:23] <s0m3bOdY> model please
[11:24] <hke> spacedust: does "ip a" list your wifi interface?
[11:24] <spacedust> hke: hmm im not at that computer now but i think iwconfig lists it
[11:24] <stevenm> Does anyone genuinely own the Linux edition of Quake 3 Arena?  And perhaps can tell me if this picture is/isn't suspicious to be the windows version? https://s3bongous.s3.amazonaws.com/tools/7c494976ed2bd6f451181a4bd25565c0.jpg
[11:24] <spacedust> hke: not sure about ip
[11:25] <ikonia> stevenm: the linux version was on the same cd as the windows one when I had it
[11:25] <ikonia> stevenm: maybe take the question to #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux
[11:26] <geirha> stevenm: Well, the linux edition probably won't run on a modern linux distribution anyway, so who cares?
[11:26] <spacedust> hke: any idea ?
[11:26] <hke> spacedust: several, but we can't test them if you don't have your computer.
[11:26] <Guest77445> Hi everyone !
[11:27] <spacedust> well you could tell me a bunch of stuff so i dont have to walk there and back :)
[11:27] <spacedust> and ill test them one by one
[11:27] <stevenm> geirha, oh it's more a collectors thing
[11:28] <spacedust> hke: i dont have wpa set up and id like to connect to an open wifi
[11:28] <stevenm> ikonia, all the other loki games i've ordered have either had a tux on it or the loki logo - this has neither in the pic :S
[11:28] <hke> spacedust: does "ip a" list your wifi interface?
[11:29] <vlt> Hello. I bought a video card "ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5430 Series]". On Debian I had to install a nonfree pkg to get the card working properly. What do I have to do on Ubuntu? (The driver shown in lsmod is "radeon".)
[11:30] <spacedust> hke: yes it does list it
[11:30] <hke> spacedust: does your /etc/network/interfaces include the interface?
[11:30] <spacedust> hke: no
[11:31] <ocooel> Someone point me to where I can talk about software. For example, browsers - which is used more and more popular and for what purpose?
[11:32] <spacedust> hke: it should ?
[11:32] <hke> spacedust: if it does, the network manager will ignore the interface
[11:32] <strange> you bought a video card?
[11:32] <strange> sounds like you bought a laptop
[11:32] <spacedust> hke: no its not there
[11:33] <NewWorld> ocooel:  the ubuntu off topic channel
[11:33] <bazhang> #ubuntu-discuss ocooel
[11:33] <hke> spacedust: hmm, did you try to restart network-manager while watching the logs?
[11:34] <spacedust> hke: yes
[11:34] <spacedust> didnt watched the logs
[11:34] <spacedust> which logs should i watch ?
[11:35] <hke> spacedust: /var/log/syslog
[11:35] <ocooel> bazhang, NewWorld, TY
[11:35] <iDangerMouse> hm
[11:35] <hke> spacedust: this interface has worked before, right?
[11:36] <spacedust> hke: of course ! i just wanted to set a static ip and i set it and tought maybe its better if i disable wireless while i use the cable
[11:36] <spacedust> and now i came back and wanted to use the wifi and i cant
[11:36] <iDangerMouse> spacedust: broadcom?
[11:37] <iDangerMouse> That sounds like a common broadcom issue.
[11:37] <varunendra> spacedust, please download this script : http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qjc87hzk1z5x6z0/wireless_script
[11:38] <varunendra> spacedust, ..and run it as per instructions here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[11:38] <spacedust> iDangerMouse: intel 2200
[11:38] <varunendra> spacedust, give us the pastebin link to the report it generates.
[11:38] <iDangerMouse> what varunendra said
[11:39] <helpmeplease> Hello
[11:39] <spacedust> you know what , i am just going to go with wpa_gui
[11:40] <iDangerMouse> Ok
[11:40] <helpmeplease> I've upgraded manually nvidia driver and the kernel from apt and now I get a black screen with the mouse pointer, I've tried installing the old driver, but nothing
[11:40] <hke> spacedust: if it's a broadcom problem, the software used shouldn't make too much of a difference..
[11:40] <helpmeplease> Any help?
[11:41] <iDangerMouse> helpmeplease: can you see anything at all, use terminal?
[11:41] <helpmeplease> Nothing, I don't get any error
[11:42] <adhum> hi
[11:42] <spacedust> hke: intel wifi
[11:42] <helpmeplease> Dmesg reports nothing at least that I see
[11:42] <adhum> anybody there
[11:42] <universal> when doing "nmcli con down id <id>" the connection doesn't gets disconnected permanently instead it disconnects first and then restablishes the same connection instantly....I have to keep doing "nmcli dev disconnect iface <iface>" for permanently disconnecting the connection..why is it not getting disconnected permanently with 'nmcli con down id <id>" and how to fix this or use it if I'm doing anything wrong?
[11:43] <adhum> hi
[11:43] <iDangerMouse> helpmeplease: you can fix it with a USB, if you have Ubuntu installer on it
[11:44] <adhum> i want to knew how to open a dmg file
[11:44] <helpmeplease> I can use the terminal with ctrl alt f2 from the machine, I don't have the usb pen with linux
[11:44] <hke> adhum: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+open+dmg
[11:44] <helpmeplease> How to fix?
[11:44] <iDangerMouse> adhum: or http://baghira.sourceforge.net/dmg.htm
[11:45] <iDangerMouse> helpmeplease: as long as terminal works I can give you the tutorial for fixing the drivers
[11:45] <helpmeplease> Yes thank you
[11:45] <varunendra> universal, maybe the connection is set to "Connect Automatically" ? Clearing that checkbox should help in that case. I'm just guessing of course.
[11:45] <blazemore> adhum: dmg files are Mac OSX executables, aren't they?
[11:45] <iDangerMouse> helpmeplease: connect ethernet port to the internet and follow http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-quetzal-nvidia.html (Terminal section) if that doesn't work lemme know
[11:45] <blazemore> !details | adhum
[11:47] <adhum> i have a problem with dmg files , i am running ubuntu 13.04 i downloaded dmg2img but i dosent help bec. i dont knew how to use it
[11:48] <blazemore> adhum: Isn't it literally just "dmg2img -i input.dmg" ?
[11:48] <user_asdf_> hey, is there an opportunity to see the current window size of my network interface? i want to check, if it run out of space. i'm running ubuntu 12.04 LTS server
[11:50] <iDangerMouse> helpmeplease: if that doesn't work, http://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely
[11:50] <iDangerMouse> Follow this and reinstall the drivers using the first link
[11:54] <iDangerMouse> blazemore: user gone.
[11:57] <blazemore> iDangerMouse: Yes thanks I saw
[11:57] <iDangerMouse> blazemore: apologies, lagging.
[11:57] <blazemore> user_asdf_: What do you mean by window size? MTU?
[11:58] <user_asdf_> blazemore: no, not the MTU. i mean the stack of my network interface
[11:59] <blazemore> user_asdf_: Can you give me an example of what sort of value you would expect to see?
[12:00] <K1CKA55> I'm trying to resize the EXT4 parition of my ubuntu making it bigger from a delete NTFS partition that used to house a NTFS windows partition.
[12:00] <K1CKA55> I'm unsure how to do this thou last time i resized an parition on a SSD it wouldn't boot the partition i made bigger.
[12:00] <K1CKA55> Could i have some guidance
[12:00] <user_asdf_> blazemore: in my opinion the network interface has an stack, where it get all internet communications. but this stack got a limit, and i dont want to see the limit, but the actual size
[12:00] <blazemore> user_asdf_: What is the current limit?
[12:00] <blazemore> K1CKA55: Use the "gparted" program
[12:01] <helpmeplease> Now I get udev fallback graphics main process terminated with status 1
[12:01] <K1CKA55> blazemore: on the liveCD because extending a live parition isn't possible
[12:01] <glambert> Running this query on the master server works fine:
[12:01] <glambert> mysql -uroot -p**** -h127.0.0.1 -P3307 -e "flush privileges; create user 'slave-host'@'%' identified by 'test'; grant replication slave on *.* to 'slave-host'@'%'; grant replication client on *.* to 'slave-host'@'%';"
[12:01] <user_asdf_> blazemore: 64kbit, maybe ^^ wait a minute, i will search the net
[12:01] <glambert> however running it over ssh from another host fails
[12:01] <blazemore> K1CKA55: Yes, on the LiveCD
[12:01] <helpmeplease> Any idea?
[12:01] <K1CKA55> blazemore: Thank you
[12:01] <glambert> with ERROR 1046 (3D000) at line 1: No database selected
[12:01] <universal> varunendra: yea, nm was configured to connect automatically to network thats why it was reconnecting every time I did "nmcli con down id <id>", disbaling the option solved the problem and it disconnected permanently with the same command. it just slipped my mind, thnx but now how to enable/disable that automatic option frm nmcli or terminal ?
[12:01] <glambert> I'm assuming some sort of issue with ssh evaluating commands
[12:02] <glambert> probably with the *.*
[12:02] <glambert> any ideas?
[12:02] <blazemore> Yes glambert that is why, give me a sec
[12:02] <wsk233> does anyone know why my make is failing http://pastebin.com/jESpUztK
[12:02] <blazemore> glambert: ssh hostname 'mysql... blah blah'
[12:02] <blazemore> glambert: Make sure you use single quotes
[12:04] <blazemore> !info memcached
[12:04] <blazemore> wsk233: You don't need to compile it, there's an already compiled and packaged version in the repositories
[12:05] <wsk233> blazemore i want the memcached php extension
[12:05] <wsk233> i already have a memcached server running
[12:05] <wsk233> this is not the memcached server but the php extension
[12:05] <varunendra> universal, I don't know the nmcli command (will have to look at it), but from terminal, I'd simply edit the 'key file' for the connection (in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections directory).
[12:05] <iDangerMouse> wsk233: follow, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-use-memcache-on-ubuntu-12-04
[12:06] <angryuser> Hello, i have setuped a bondinf with 2 interfaces, mode 0 (load balancing) Can someone tell me if the interfaces should have the same HWADDR or MAC declared, or not ?
[12:07] <blazemore> !info php5-memcached
[12:07] <blazemore> wsk233: install ^
[12:07] <wsk233> is this also working if i have a self compiled php 5.3?
[12:07] <blazemore> I would assume so
[12:08] <iDangerMouse> Not sure.
[12:08] <blazemore> Ubuntu's PHP configuration is fairly vanilla
[12:08] <inroel> hi everyone, I'm not getting any sound from movie player
[12:08] <inroel> it worked until an hour ago
[12:08] <blazemore> wsk233: Did you use apt-get to build the sources, or did you go completely outside the Ubuntu ecosystem
[12:08] <blazemore> inroel: check the volume
[12:08] <user_asdf_> blazemore: sysctl -n net.ipv4.tcp_wmem
[12:09] <blazemore> user_asdf_: That sets the buffer size for a TCP socket
[12:09] <Ashva> Hi, I have install ubuntu on vaio Z series. I wanna know is it possible to install a driver for laptop's  fingerprint device?
[12:09] <blazemore> The word you were looking for wasn't "window" or "stack" but "buffer" :)
[12:09] <varunendra> universal, did you get my last reply to your question ?
[12:09] <blazemore> What Ubuntu version, Ashva
[12:09] <inroel> blazemore, thank you. it was indeed the volume of the player, but strangely, I also got a volume problem fix window
[12:09] <universal> varunendra: no....i got dc
[12:10] <Ashva> blazemore: 12.04
[12:10] <user_asdf_> blazemore: sysctl -n net.core.rmem_max; but this is the max stack size of the tcp window size, isnt it?
[12:10] <inroel> blazemore: even a sound beep test was made with headphone left-right
[12:10] <varunendra> universal, "I don't know the nmcli command (will have to look at it), but from terminal, I'd simply edit the 'key file' for the connection (in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections directory)."
[12:11] <varunendra> universal, it is the "autoconnect=false" line that has to be removed to enable it (not sure if setting it to "true" will work).
[12:11] <Ashva> blazemore: 12.04 LTS
[12:11] <blazemore> user_asdf_: wmem is send buffer memory per socket, and rmem is incoming buffer size I think
[12:12] <universal> varunendra: its a manula way of doing it.....i was hoping if there is a way from terminal.....also how to use 'nmcli con permissions' command coz it shows entries but all those entries are not shown in dconf or with gsettings terminal command
[12:12] <universal> manual*
[12:14] <varunendra> universal, like I mentioned, I'm not much familiar with nmcli commands. I can answer only after reading the 'man' for it, and trying ;)
[12:14] <iDangerMouse> blazemore: Later dude.
[12:15] <zokko> hello folks
[12:15] <zokko> how can i add real fqdn entry in /etc/hosts while using cloud-init ?
[12:15] <zokko> where should i put proper lines, and which template should i use?
[12:16] <user_asdf_> blazemore: is the rmem size the current size of the buffer?
[12:17] <DamienCassou> hi
[12:18] <wsk233> blazemore i go totaly outside the ubuntu sources
[12:18] <wsk233> i used the php sources to compile it by hand
[12:19] <wsk233> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: memcached: Unable to initialize module
[12:19] <wsk233> Module compiled with module API=20090626
[12:19] <wsk233> PHP    compiled with module API=20100525
[12:19] <wsk233> These options need to match
[12:19] <FloodBot1> wsk233: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:20] <wsk233> i think this php5-memcached is for a newer version of php
[12:22] <universal> varunendra: hmm...ok no problem, I appreciate your help, but read it if you have some free time :),  its a small utility with not so long manpage. also I had one more question reagrding nmcli - everytime I connect to a network with command 'nmcli dev wifi connect SSID [password <pass>]", it creates a duplicate entry for the connection meaning "Connection 1" Connection 2" "Connection 3" and so on upto the no. of times I connect with
[12:22] <user_asdf_> blazemore: i was searching a little bit, and its just the maximum size (like its called in the name ^^). do you have an idea how i'm able to see the current size of the buffer?
[12:24] <varunendra> universal, I have seen it a few times (the man page for nmcli), but never felt the need to be dependent on it, so couldn't remember the things I used with it (yeah, I'm ignorant, now you know it ;)).
[12:25] <universal> varunendra: lol
[12:25] <DamienCassou> when I plug an external monitor on my laptop, it works perfectly. But when I plug an external projector, it is not detected (by neither Displays nor xrandr)
[12:25] <DamienCassou> can somebody help me please?
[12:25] <universal> just do nmcli help and there will be no need to read the full manpage varunendra
[12:26] <wsk233> i think this php5-memcached is for a newer version of php
[12:26] <wsk233> does anyone know why my make is failing http://pastebin.com/jESpUztK
[12:27] <varunendra> universal, right now I'm in the man page, trying to figure out if the existing key file can be use instead of SSID for a wifi connection..
[12:27] <universal> hmm
[12:28] <varunendra> universal, looks like "nmcli con <connection id> up" ?
[12:29] <universal> ok 'll dc and try it
[12:29] <varunendra> universal, oh correction
[12:29] <universal> lol...what ? I was about to be dc'ed
[12:29] <varunendra> it should be "nmcli con up id <connection id>"
[12:30] <varunendra> hopefully ;P
[12:30] <universal> it connects the connection
[12:30] <quickquestion> quick question, just got my first dedi-box. I've only had vps before. in the ticket they included my ip and network information, and my login credentials. They listed it as customer/sudo su and a password. I've tried root as username but I can't login. Am i missing something?
[12:30] <universal> not sets it to automatically connect whenever available varunendra
[12:31] <jrib> quickquestion: ask them.
[12:31] <quickquestion> K
[12:31] <jrib> quickquestion: and please don't sudo su.  See ubottu
[12:31] <jrib> !sudo | quickquestion
[12:31] <nodie> hi
[12:31] <varunendra> universal, the autoconnect part seems to be not covered by nmcli (or not mentioned in the man page)
[12:31] <universal> !cli
[12:32] <nodie> I'm trying to configure the rsyslog of a ubuntu 13.04 to accept external messages
[12:32] <universal> varunendra: yea thats what I'm trying to tell and ask
[12:32] <varunendra> :D
[12:32] <hke> quickquestion: use sudo -i
[12:32] <nodie> but even after following the instructions I see in places rsyslog is not listening in the 514 port
[12:32] <nodie> (using TCP)
[12:32] <hke> quickquestion: if you don't know your username, ask the provider.
[12:32] <nodie> do I need to change in some way /etc/defaults/rsyslog ?
[12:33] <universal> varunendra: and how to use that "nmcli con permissions" command ? those enntries are not listed in dconf or shown with gsettings
[12:33] <varunendra> universal, do you use 'sed' frequently? It should be easier with it. (with Ctrl+R shortcut in bash terminal)
[12:33] <universal> !sed
[12:34] <universal> varunendra: sed ? the simple terminal or something else ?
[12:34] <platius> DamienCassou> http://www.maketecheasier.com/output-display-to-projector-in-ubuntu/2007/11/22
[12:35] <varunendra> universal, a stream line editor, like awk. Most common use is "sed -i 's/<something>/<something else/' <input file>"
[12:35] <universal> it went up like a rocket lol
[12:35] <varunendra> universal, what?
[12:35] <universal> plz use simple english
[12:36] <varunendra> oh. lol
[12:36] <DamienCassou> this blog post is really old and probably outdated (I think that xorg.conf if more or less deprecated now). Moreover, plugging an external monitor works fine. Just plugging an external projector does not work
[12:36] <universal> !awk
[12:37] <varunendra> universal, if you are planning to learn and use commandline for most of your tasks, learning at least 'some' usage of sed is going to help you a lot... it is almost a necessity for permanent cmdline users
[12:38] <spacedust> varunendra: or awk ?
[12:38] <universal> yes I want to use cmdline...its fast and powerful
[12:38] <varunendra> spacedust, awk is not suitable for simple edits.
[12:38] <spacedust> varunendra: why not ?
[12:38] <varunendra> it is overkill IMHO for thins like 's/1/2/'
[12:38] <universal> spacedust: varunendra are you both having a debate or helping me out ?
[12:39] <varunendra> XD
[12:39] <spacedust> no, im having a migrane :)
[12:39] <varunendra> universal, awk is too powerful, almost a full programming language, I'm trying to find the sed guide page which I learnt the most from..
[12:40] <universal> that will be god
[12:40] <universal> good*
[12:40] <geirha> varunendra: /topic ##sed
[12:41] <geirha> awk and sed are both programming languages, turing complete and all that
[12:42] <universal> ctrl+R in bash terminal shows something like (reverse-i-search)`': - what does it mean ?
[12:42] <MrQuist> searching the history
[12:42] <MrQuist> really usefull
[12:42] <MrQuist> try typing: echo testing123
[12:42] <MrQuist> then ctrl+r -> 123
[12:42] <MrQuist> it will show echo testing123
[12:42] <geirha> universal: It means if you type some text it will search backwards through history for a line containing that text
[12:42] <MrQuist> right.
[12:42] <universal> ooo
[12:42] <MrQuist> handy when searching for older commands :)
[12:42] <universal> if I do history -c then also ?
[12:42] <varunendra> universal, it is probably the most handy shortcut in Bash. It just looks through your bash history file for used commands, as you type a keyword
[12:43] <universal> if I do history -c then also ?
[12:43] <Pici> There is also #bash
[12:43] <geirha> universal: If you run history -c, there won't be any history to search through ...
[12:43] <universal> yea
[12:43] <varunendra> universal, just try the shortcut, then start typing any keyword you used in a previously used command. You'll know the difference ;)
[12:44] <universal> hmm
[12:44] <varunendra> universal, okay, the tutorial was the first hit on google : http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
[12:44] <varunendra> universal, for your Network Manager keyfile issue, this is how you can use the sed command -
[12:45] <geirha> varunendra: Incidentally, that one is also listed in ##sed's topic
[12:46] <varunendra> universal, "sudo sed -i '/autoconnect/ d' /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/<your connection's keyfile>" == this will delete the line that contains the word "autoconnect".
[12:47] <varunendra> geirha, the NM keyfile editing? That's too much a coincidence then :D
[12:47] <universal> terminal is really easy with only a few clicks required lol
[12:48] <MrQuist> @ universal -> try Terminator instead of terminal
[12:48] <universal> and ctrl+R not working correctly
[12:48] <varunendra> universal, problem?
[12:48] <universal> i used nmcli command a lot of times
[12:48] <ferrieres> hi evbdy
[12:49] <MrQuist> hi lzy ferrieres
[12:49] <varunendra> oh, it'll show up the last used one only then, universal
[12:49] <universal> so when I did echo testing123 as suggested by MrQuist, its only showing nmcli commands and not testing123
[12:49] <universal> varunendra: ^
[12:49] <MrQuist> when ctrl+r -> 123 ?
[12:49] <geirha> varunendra: No, the grymoire tutorial. sed -i is generally discouraged in ##sed
[12:49] <ferrieres> I'm experiencing pbs (70% of CPU spend on Xorg) with a 4 years old laptop under 12.04
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: what GPU are you using?
[12:50] <ferrieres> GPU ?
[12:50] <universal> MrQuist: no...its nly taking 12 and not 123 and last command is echo testing123 but its showing nmcli one
[12:50] <MrQuist> weird
[12:50] <levianux> (firefox:2692): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_shortcut: assertion `gtk_accelerator_valid(key, modifier)' failed
[12:51] <ferrieres> you mean CPU : it's HP
[12:51] <universal> not an expected word MrQuist lol
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: no the GPU
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: GPU == Graphical processing unit
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> universal  there's also #bash, maybe the people there can help better
[12:51] <MrQuist> haha sry universal im kinda busy
[12:51] <ferrieres> ok, ATI RADEon
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: also, hp dont make cpu
[12:51] <arrun> hi guys how to modify initrd.lz , please help
[12:51] <varunendra> geirha, yes, that depends on which file is target though. You can't afford to create a copy each time you change a file, if you do it frequently. And in some places (like /etc/modprobe.d/) not at all (cuz all files are read, regardless of extension).
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: which Radeon GPU?
[12:52] <ferrieres> ok, HP is Hall but Processoring...
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: sudo lshw -C display      will show you
[12:52] <ferrieres> ok, smthg like lspci greped ?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: see above
[12:52] <geirha> varunendra: And it's non-standard; only works with GNU sed. BSD sed has a similar option, but it's incompatible with the GNU one.
[12:52] <universal> MrQuist: no problem....I understand coz I also become busy when something unexpected happens lol
[12:52] <MrQuist> lol
[12:53] <universal> MonkeyDust: thnx
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: what is the product name?
[12:54] <varunendra> geirha, definitely. Someone serious about learning sed should know this, and probably they would, while following one of the guides :)
[12:54] <arrun> hi guys how to modify initrd.lz , please help
[12:54] <cactuswizard> does someone have any recommendations on good program for fb chat and twitter?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: when you type your password you will not get feedback
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> cactuswizard: pidgin
[12:55] <K1CKA55> blazemore: Thank again for the help i was succesfull with extending the partition without any issues with grub at all.
[12:55] <K1CKA55> Sadly it didn't fix the issue i was out to fix
[12:55] <universal> filter your assesments and passon the best suggestion varunendra geirha lol
[12:56] <geirha> cactuswizard: bitlbee; though I use neither fb or twitter, so I don't know how well it works.
[12:56] <arrun> hi guys how to modify initrd.lz , please help
[12:56] <universal> MrQuist: now its working......I got it why it was not working
[12:56] <MrQuist> what about it
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> arrun: modify in what way?
[12:56] <arrun> ActionParsnip: just to test it in iso
[12:56] <MrQuist> arrun -> vim initrd.lz -> press I -> type random stuff -> press esc -> press wq -> press enter
[12:57] <arrun> change the plymouth
[12:57] <MrQuist> done! modified.
[12:57] <ferrieres> seems that I only get "PCI(sys)" as an answer
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> arrun: there is a menu for setting the plymouth theme
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> arrun:
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> arrun: you dont change that file manually
[12:57] <varunendra> universal, probably create a copy of the keyfiles with desired changes, and move them back'n forth as required - would be safest method ;)
[12:57] <arrun> ok
[12:57] <ferrieres> "PCI(sysfs)" exactly...
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> arrun: if you simply state what you want to do like that, you will get better help
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: wait, your pci bus is slow
[12:58] <cactuswizard> ActionParsnip: just installed pidgin, seems working way better than empathy
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> cactuswizard: been using it since I started using Linux waaaay back when it was gaim :)
[12:58] <arrun> ActionParsnip: i want to extract the file and modify the content and then again rebuild it
[12:59] <universal> MrQuist: it showed the last entry correctly but what I did was deleted it so when again I searched, it didnt showed it...that means I deleted the last entry not from the search but from the terminal history
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> arrun: if you run: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth; sudo update-initramfs -u
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> arrun: you can choose the plymouth boot splash from the available options
[12:59] <MrQuist> oh
[12:59] <varunendra> universal, even better, create two copies of same keyfile, with different names (IDs), one with autoconnect, other without it. Then use "nmcli con up id <desired one>". Not the optimal solution of course..
[12:59] <MrQuist> weird
[12:59] <MrQuist> hahah
[12:59] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem with xscreensaver, don't authenticate even with correct password
[13:00] <universal> MrQuist: yea lol
[13:00] <arrun> ActionParsnip: man and how to change for the live disk]
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> arrun: you will need to remaster the ISO
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> arrun: considering its a boot splash, is it really worth the effort?
[13:01] <arrun> ActionParsnip: yes I am doing it
[13:01] <ferrieres> with lspci greped with "Radeon", i got AMD/ATI RV710/M92
[13:01] <universal> varunendra: that sounds good..but what do you mean by move back and forth ?
[13:01] <ferrieres> but still printing PCI (sysfs)
[13:01] <ferrieres> on lshw display
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: give it time, you'll get there
[13:02] <universal> when doing "sudo iwconfig", it takes me to consle and freezes there....is it a bug ?
[13:02] <varunendra> universal, move to the system-connections directory the one you want to use, move the other one outside. Now you don't need to tell me the stupidity rating of this suggestion.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: or try (in a nother terminal):   lspci | grep -i vga
[13:03] <ferrieres> is there another way to know the GPU ?
[13:03] <universal> varunendra: haha...no no not at all
[13:03] <ferrieres> ok
[13:03] <ferrieres> ok : i got it both ways
[13:04] <universal> varunendra: if anything....thnx, it was the best advice of the day :D
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: ok, which GPU
[13:05] <universal> varunendra: now how to use that "nmcli con permissions" command ?
[13:05] <xtriz> is the sourcelist of ubuntu 12.04 server and 12.04 Desktop different ?
[13:05] <varunendra> universal, I'm overwhelmed with your generous compliment :)
[13:05] <ferrieres> RV710/M92 ?
[13:05] <K1CKA55> Anyone got an idea what could cause a ubuntu to boot slowly at times
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> xtriz: they are the same
[13:05] <xtriz> because what i found was it was all precise and same.
[13:05] <ferrieres> Mobility Radeon
[13:05] <mn2010> Question: LD linking error, how do i find what lib it cant find?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: its a 4000 series
[13:05] <xtriz> ActionParsnip, ok :)
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: known issue
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: you need that
[13:06] <ferrieres> HD 4330, 4350/4550...
[13:06] <sinkensabe> is it in an easy way to disable the notification animation for apps in the launcher sidebar ? e.g. when something happens in a program at another workspace the icon pops out from the side
[13:06] <ferrieres> i got errors on glxinfo...
[13:06] <mn2010> 4k has to use fglrx-legacy not fglrx/fglrx-updates. its a legacy product now
[13:07] <DamienCassou> plugging an external monitor on my laptop works fine. However, if I replace the external monitor by an external projector, it is not detected by xrandr and Displays
[13:07] <DamienCassou> what can be wrong?
[13:07] <arrun> ActionParsnip: man how to change for the live disk
[13:07] <xtriz> what was the name for the version 12.10 ? for 12.04 it is precise and for 13.04 it's raring but what about 12.10 ?
[13:08] <arrun> ActionParsnip: I need to build the initrd.lz really fast
[13:08] <universal> varunendra: nmcli con permissions ?
[13:08] <Pici> !12.10 | xtriz
[13:08] <xtriz> Pici, ok :)
[13:08] <xtriz> arrun, what are you doing ?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> arrun: you will need to remaster the entire ISO and then rebuild. If you use liveUSB with persistance you can change it like an installed OS
[13:09] <varunendra> universal, again, doesn't look like that is covered by nmcli (or I couldn't find if it is). What kind of permissions do you want to assign/change?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> arrun: i fail to see how a boot splash is so urgent, its so inconsequential
[13:09] <ferrieres> so lsmod doesnt show any fglx or so... how can i get this ?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: _READ_ the link I gave
[13:10] <universal> varunendra: I dont want to change anything...I was wondering coz those entries are not listed in dconf and not shown in gsettings also
[13:10] <ferrieres> ok, i have lynx but firefox is out of my possibilities...
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: want me to pastebin the text for you?
[13:10] <universal> its like ghost entries shown legit in nmcli but not in dconf or gsettings
[13:11] <universal> varunendra: ^
[13:11] <ferrieres> no thx ActionParsnip, i'll try with lynx
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: http://pastie.org/8313733
[13:11] <ferrieres> ok, thx anyway !
[13:12] <varunendra> universal, usually it is suggested to enable the connection for everyone, which is the default option while creating a connection. But if I disable that option, the connection is available to me only (or who creates the connection). Accordingly, just a line is added in the keyfile which I think can be added or edited manually.
[13:13] <universal> hmm
[13:13] <ferrieres> ok, i read...
[13:14] <universal> varunendra: next - connecting via command "nmcli dev wifi connect SSID [password <pass>]" duplicates the connection meaning duplicating of "connection " to "connection 1" "connection 2" and so on the times its done by "dev wifi connect....." command ! why ?
[13:16] <varunendra> universal, I don't have any authentic explanation to that. I can only guess, which is - since you are not using an existing profile (using 'con' object), maybe NM thinks you 'Want' to create a new one.
[13:16] <varunendra> universal, it somehow sometimes happens in the GUI as well.
[13:21] <universal> varunendra: well sounds fair enough....but if i use the same command without "password <pass>" and use it to connect an existing connection.....then it connects the connection but again creates a duplicate entry , assuming its used to create new connections, this time it takes the entry itself and pass is already saved so I suppose its not creating a new entry but using the existing one
[13:23] <universal> otherwise if there are no connections in NM and you use the same command without pass then it will ask for the password but again creating a duplicate entry
[13:25] <varunendra> universal, you lost me in the previous comment :P Which command? "nmcli dev ...." or "nmcli con..." ?
[13:25] <universal> varunendra: ^^
[13:25] <universal> nmcli dev wifi connect......
[13:30] <a_guy> I recently installed pantheon shell on ubuntu 13.04... everything works except the wallpaper... same happened to cinnamon and gnome shell, but I got those fixed except for this...
[13:30] <geirha> universal: The manual clearly states that it will create a new connection
[13:31] <varunendra> universal, I am not so sure about the "dev" object. I think it is like asking for a new connection. The "con" object seems to be intended to use existing connections. Then again, most of what I'm posting here is what I just learned or guessed.. lol !
[13:32] <a_guy> I recently installed pantheon shell on ubuntu 13.04... everything works except the wallpaper... same happened to cinnamon and gnome shell, but I got those fixed except for this...
[13:32] <varunendra> universal, what geirha said ^^
[13:33] <rbtnc> anyone have any suggestions and or docs/sites as far as network tweak, I am running a ftpd and not getting speeds i should be getting.
[13:33] <universal> varunendra: geirha yea had a second look at its manpage.....looks like I misread that line the 1st time..."it always creates a new connection"
[13:34] <akshay2000> rbtnc: Start with finding out the bottleneck.
[13:34] <a_guy> I recently installed pantheon shell on ubuntu 13.04... everything works except the wallpaper... same happened to cinnamon and gnome shell, but I got those fixed except for this...
[13:34] <universal> I think I misjudged it "its a counterpart of clicking a connection in gui"
[13:35] <ciapsa> hi
[13:35] <Delapena> ciapsa: what's your question?
[13:37] <ciapsa> I can not connect the torus
[13:37] <ciapsa> which settings
[13:38] <vlt> Hello. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with lubuntu-desktop. I have two screens connected: one on HDMI-0 and one on VGA-0. I found out how to change the size of the screens but how can I setup different content?
[13:38] <pratik> Hi. I am having some issues with dpkg. I am not able to install any new packages or upgrade the packages. The error I am getting is Bus Error (core dumped). Please help me in this regard.
[13:39] <universal> why "sudo iwcnfig" is taking me to console and freeing system there until I have to hit the power buttong to manually reboot it
[13:39] <universal> sudo iwconfig
[13:39] <sean_madden> cool
[13:39] <universal> its not cool
[13:39] <GSport> HDMI sound does not work
[13:39] <bkfitz> Anyone here have experience setting up an sftp batch script from windows to linux using passwordless auth (keys)?
[13:40] <GSport> my monitor isnt a goldstar
[13:40] <sean_madden> same here
[13:40] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem with xscreensaver, don't authenticate even with correct password
[13:40] <sean_madden> bye
[13:40] <universal> bye bye
[13:40] <rbtnc> akshay2000: What do you mean?
[13:40] <user_asdf_> anybody here knows how to see the current tcp window size of an network interface? (tried it before, but it didnt get solved)
[13:41] <GSport> i tried the latest xubuntu with new kernel and still HDMI sound does not work
[13:41] <pratik> Hi. I am having some issues with dpkg. I am not able to install any new packages or upgrade the packages. The error I am getting is Bus Error (core dumped). Please help me in this regard.
[13:41] <levianux> (firefox:2838): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_shortcut: assertion `gtk_accelerator_valid(key, modifier)' failed
[13:41] <GSport> and the computer fans are making to much noise
[13:41] <cfhowlett> pratik, bring this question to #xubuntu for best results.
[13:41] <cfhowlett> GSport, that's a hardware issue ...
[13:41] <GSport> linux use at your own risc
[13:42] <pratik> cfhowlett: I am using Ubuntu 13.04. Are you sure I shall ask at #xubuntu?
[13:42] <a_guy> I recently installed pantheon shell on ubuntu 13.04... everything works except the wallpaper... same happened to cinnamon and gnome shell, but I got those fixed except for this...
[13:42] <cfhowlett> pratik, d'0h!  ignore my suggestion
[13:42] <GSport> its not an hardware issiu
[13:42] <GSport> so stop being a dumb ass
[13:42] <pratik> cfhowlett: Ok. Can you help me at #ubuntu?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> GSport, attitude like that?  good luck.
[13:43] <a_guy> I recently installed pantheon shell on ubuntu 13.04... everything works except the wallpaper... same happened to cinnamon and gnome shell, but I got those fixed except for this...
[13:43] <cfhowlett> pratik, sorry, no.  that's why I suggested (wrongly) that you come here.
[13:43] <akshay2000> pratik: just type your question!
[13:43] <GSport> good luck with your distro
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !patience|a_guy,
[13:43] <ferrieres> ok, thx ActionParnship ! I'm on an slow slow update... getting some headers
[13:43] <pratik> akshay2000: Hi. I am having some issues with dpkg. I am not able to install any new packages or upgrade the packages. The error I am getting is Bus Error (core dumped). Please help me in this regard.
[13:43] <GSport> full of smart assholes
[13:43] <a_guy> ok ubottu
[13:43] <cfhowlett> !language|GSport,
[13:44] <GSport> !language cfhowlett
[13:44] <GSport> his is a distro to break your computer
[13:45] <GSport> use it if you want to lose warranty
[13:45] <jony_easyrider> in Ubuntu where is located the LibreOffice's Calc executable?
[13:45] <somsip> jony_easyrider: locate localc
[13:45] <cfhowlett> jony_easyrider, if installed, it'll be under Office
[13:45] <GSport> you will be lucky if your computer doesnt breakdown in the 1st couple of days
[13:46] <DGJones> GSport, Do you have a support issue, this isn't a channel for ranting
[13:46] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hi
[13:46] <cfhowlett> JoBArTe_Skuld, greetings
[13:46] <JoBArTe_Skuld> thanks :)
[13:46] <GSport> im just suppoerting the people that use this thing
[13:46] <JoBArTe_Skuld> is possible to kill child proccess and this dont turn to zombie process?
[13:47] <GSport> before they do something that ruins their PC
[13:47] <GSport> like installing this stuff for real
[13:47] <jony_easyrider> somsip, ty
[13:47] <jony_easyrider> cfhowlett, ty
[13:47] <cfhowlett> jony_easyrider, have fun, be safe
[13:51] <glambert> Hi, I must have botched the ubuntu server install on my new server because the sources.list file was empty apart from the entry for the disc
[13:51] <glambert> I've added a few entries in there but still can't find some simple things like phpmyadmin
[13:51] <glambert> is there a default list somewhere for 13.04 server?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|glambert,
[13:53] <universal> geirha: why are the "nmcli nm permissions" entries not shown in dconf gui or gsettings ?
[13:53] <Delapena> cfhowlett: that's extremely unhelpful
[13:53] <Delapena> glambert: boot from live CD
[13:53] <glambert> Delapena, it was a USB install
[13:53] <glambert> and will eventually be in a datacentre so can't really have the USB in all of the time
[13:54] <kevalin> hello guys
[13:54] <Delapena> glambert: use the USB to see what the sources.list should look like...
[13:54] <OerHeks> glambert, you could try http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ and use the first 6 entrys
[13:54] <Delapena> wasn't that your question?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> kevalin, greetings
[13:55] <glambert> OerHeks, tried that but didn't select the Restricted or Universe ones, so that might be it
[13:55] <glambert> Delapena, don't think you can live boot from a USB server install?
[13:57] <Neozonz> how can i make a host openvpn accessible to all my proxmox containers?>
[13:58] <glambert> OerHeks, that sorted it, thanks
[13:58] <tekk> i have a strange thing going on
[13:58] <OerHeks> glambert, have fun
[13:58] <tekk> wlan0 will not come up until an ethernet cable is plugged in
[13:58] <tekk> any ideas?
[14:01] <Guest9574> hey
[14:01] <cfhowlett> Guest9574, ho
[14:03] <iceroot> is there a program which is able to receive and show SMS when i have entered a SIM-card into my notebook? the umts connection is working fine, i just need to be able to receive sms also on that card
[14:04] <martinrame> Hi, I'm on text mode console right now. I lost the keyboard input on graphical mode, how can I recover it? (Ubuntu 12.04 XFCE).
[14:04] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[14:04] <ferrieres> Thx for all help... i have to restart the computer...
[14:04] <martinrame> I mean, the keyboard suddenly stopped working on graphical mode, but ctrl+alt+f1 still works.
[14:06] <martinrame> just killed an RDesktop session and it started working again.
[14:13] <icesword> hehehe
[14:16] <kevalin> hehehehehehe
[14:28] <Hundurinn> hi, i was wondering if someone could give me some pointers with installing ubuntu to dualboot with windows 7?
[14:28] <iceroot> !dualboot | Hundurinn
[14:28] <cfhowlett> Hundurinn, install windows first.  then ubuntu
[14:29] <iceroot> Hundurinn: the first link
[14:30] <Delapena> you can install ubuntu first then windows... and then fix grub from a live cd
[14:30] <Hundurinn> well, i got windows 7 up and running, i create the USB bootable with ubuntu 12.04 LTS, restart my computer, boot from the usb key, select install and i get the some ubuntu loading screen that just hangs forever
[14:31] <Delapena>  Hundurinn sounds like you have a bad install
[14:31] <cfhowlett> Hundurinn, md5sum check your ISO and do a disk integrity check of the USB
[14:32] <akshay2000> Hundurinn: you may hit escape and see where exactly it is stuck.
[14:33] <ferrieres> hi again ! i'm still having trouble with a 12.04 on a ATI RADEON, even with the fglrx module... any help ?
[14:33] <universal> Hundurinn: which wifi card is installed in your system ?
[14:34] <Hundurinn> no wifi, it is a desktop computer
[14:34] <ferrieres> hi !
[14:35] <GSport> hi peeps
[14:35] <cfhowlett> ferrieres, greetings
[14:35] <universal> Hundurinn: are there any additional cards attachments installed in your desktop?
[14:35] <ferrieres> hi cfhowlett
[14:35] <ferrieres> can you help me ?
[14:35] <Hundurinn> i got a soundcard and a graphics card
[14:35] <cfhowlett> !details|ferrieres,
[14:35] <Hundurinn> nothing else
[14:37] <ferrieres> I got a 12.04 version on a HP ProBook 4710 with a RADEON ATI 4xxx version and something like 70% of CPU spend on Xorg...
[14:37] <universal> well md5sum and sha256sum iso and usb and if its ok them try removing sound card and see if it works
[14:38] <universal> some drivers and additional attachments conflict while loading on boot
[14:39] <ferrieres> so, for example, moving a window under gnome (gdm, nnot lightdm) takes several seconds
[14:40] <ferrieres> anybody for help ?
[14:41] <auronandace> ferrieres: gdm and lightdm are login managers, nothing to do with your window manager
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: did you install the driver from the PPA?
[14:41] <Hundurinn> the md5sum came back wrong, Not the same, i'll will try downloading it again to make sure the iso is good
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: have you tried the Unity2D session?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: there is nothing to move in gdm or lightdm, they are the login managers
[14:41] <iceroot> is there a program which is able to receive and show SMS when i have entered a SIM-card into my notebook? the umts connection is working fine, i just need to be able to receive sms also on that card
[14:42] <ferrieres> yes, ActionPArnship... update, upgrade, install fglrx and reboot... twice... and same pb
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: try Unity2D
[14:43] <ferrieres> Unity 2D ? why, is this runnning smthg different from gnome ?
[14:43] <ferrieres> except lightdm in place of gdm...
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: no, its still gnome, just a different window manager and shell
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: lightdm or gdm doesnt make any difference at all
[14:44] <ferrieres> ok...
[14:44] <auronandace> ferrieres: gnome-shell uses mutter, unity uses compiz, unity2d uses metacity (what was used in gnome2)
[14:44] <ferrieres> thx...
[14:45] <ferrieres> how to proceed without unloging ?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: you will need to log off, select the 2D session in the login screen then log in
[14:45] <ferrieres> ok
[14:47] <ferrieres> it's running very slow... ok, i log in
[14:48] <universal> Hundurinn: use torrnt this time....it checks the file by itslef and if there will be any problem....it will correct it automatically
[14:49] <Hundurinn> ok, will do
[14:49] <fanda5> frucoooo
[14:52] <dheeraj> In gparted it is showing unknown type
[14:52] <dheeraj> for my external harddisk
[14:53] <hid> hi all
[14:54] <hid> when you install a software, does it go to /?
[14:54] <GSport> it gores to lots of places
[14:55] <ferrieres> hi again !
[14:55] <GSport> the executable goes to /usr/bin
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> hid: all over the place. It doesnt go to a single folder like you think it does in windows
[14:55] <hid> but i mean not in ~
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> hid: shared libs can be used by many apps so go into a shared folder, they are also only loaded to ram once
[14:55] <hid> because i have only 2 gb left in ~
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> hid: yes, applicatoins do not install in $HOME
[14:56] <dheeraj> how could i mount it
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> hid: then clean aplication caches
[14:56] <ferrieres> ActionParsnip: when i tried to log out, the computer stoped even ircII from printing on tty1... so i rebooted
[14:56] <hid> ActionParnsnip: how to clean em?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: ok, how is 2D?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> hid: use the app themselves, or use apps like bleachbit (carefully)
[14:57] <hid> ActionParnsnip: ok thx
[14:57] <ferrieres> ...empty... nothing to click on ;)
[14:57] <ferrieres> i'll try top in tty2
[14:58] <GSport> try htop
[14:58] <GSport> its pretier
[14:58] <ferrieres> ... but it takes like 10 seconds to log in on a tty !!! never seen that...
[14:59] <ferrieres> ok unity2D is "appearing" (left bar, menu, etc.)
[14:59] <GSport> just install a propper distro
[15:00] <GSport> pclinuxOS is one of the best
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> GSport: ubuntu is a propper distro
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> GSport: in your opinion, maybe
[15:00] <GSport> you harware is supported out of the box runing live
[15:00] <bazhang> GSport, thats offtopic here, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:00] <Delapena> GSport: why arey ou in #ubuntu trying to sell people some other distro
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> GSport: all my hardware has worked out of the box since gutsy?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> GSport: and before that in Mandrake....
[15:01] <ferrieres> apt-check, Xorg and polkitd are taking more than 70%CPU on top, alternatively...
[15:01] <GSport> you are lucky
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> GSport: no, smart
[15:01] <GSport> smart are people that make pclinuxOS
[15:01] <GSport> and users that run it
[15:02] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> GSport: this is support, please give ubuntu support or ask an ubuntu support question
[15:03] <GSport> im afraid my question wont be smart enough
[15:03] <ferrieres> and i may suggest a customer ;-)
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> GSport: we support al skill levels here
[15:04] <GSport> all*
[15:04] <ferrieres> just to be efficient : is there option in ircII printing to highlight my username, for instance ?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> GSport: yes, the language conveyed my message, so it wasn't corrected
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> GSport: you knew what I meant, so why make it clear?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> GSport: it was already obvious
[15:05] <GSport> ok you can stop crying now
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> GSport: cos I made you look like an ass?
[15:06] <GSport> no you made your self look like the smart ass that you really are
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> GSport: how so?
[15:06] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, thats enough please
[15:06] <bazhang> GSport, you too
[15:06] <Delapena> GSport: this is very off topic and unnecessary. Go away
[15:07] <ferrieres> ActionPArsnip, may i just wonder some help ? i don't mean to disturb you from a good discussion...
[15:07] <GSport> im sorry that you fail to understand
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> GSport: ive moved on, i suggest you do th same
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: is the OS up to date?
[15:07] <ferrieres> the OS is 12.04, lts
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: if you install the xfce4 package, then log in to the XFCE session, is it better
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: have you ran system updates to get the packages installed up to date?
[15:08] <ferrieres> for xfce is lighter ?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: waht is the output of:  uname -a
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: yes
[15:09] <ferrieres> 3.2.0.53-generic-pae on a 64 bit
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: pae is not 64bit, its 32bit
[15:10] <ferrieres> ok.. it's written i686 twice and i386
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: yes, 32bit kernel, 32bit OS
[15:10] <ferrieres> but 64 bit CPU... ?
[15:10] <ferrieres> ok i try xfce
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: your 64bit-ness in your cpu isnt being used
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: the kernel doesnt know how
[15:11] <ferrieres> ok, let's him ignore it for the moment ;-)
[15:12] <abstarct_man> apple conference :-)
[15:13] <ferrieres> i try to do all things in shell because every window is taking too much of the CPU... so the package is xfce4 ?
[15:13] <ferrieres> ok, it downloads stuff
[15:14] <Gnea> !ppa
[15:15] <ferrieres> how to get the list of the PPA's i've installed ?
[15:15] <ferrieres> is it in /etc/apt/source.list or smthg ?
[15:16] <Gnea> ferrieres: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:16] <ferrieres> ok
[15:16] <ferrieres> so it's in the same file than the classical repositories
[15:17] <Gnea> well they just put each repository in its own file in that directory and source the directory
[15:17] <Gnea> that way you don't have one huge file cluttered with stuff that you probably wouldn't have any idea of what it was unless you visted each one with a browser
[15:17] <hid> i have this recalcitrant file
[15:18] <DamienCassou> when I plug a beamer on my computer it is not recognized. External monitors are however. What can I do please?
[15:18] <hid> even with a chmod 777 is does not want to be executable
[15:18] <Gnea> DamienCassou: what is a 'beamer'? a car?
[15:18] <ferrieres> ok, xfce4 unpacks severely... this will appear in the login screen ? ok, i try
[15:18] <Gnea> hid: what is the result of this command:  file recalcitrant
[15:19] <ferrieres> beamer is a latex presentation ?
[15:19] <hid> Gnea: UrTUpdater.x86_64: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
[15:20] <ferrieres> DamienCassou : what's wrong with the beamer ?
[15:20] <Gnea> hid: okay, do you have a 64-bit cpu?
[15:20] <DJones> Gnea, Beamer is overhead projecter from memory (DamienCassou was asking earlier on with no success)
[15:20] <hid> Gnea: of course :)
[15:20] <DamienCassou> Gnea: beamer = external projector
[15:20] <SunTsu> Gnea: he's talking about a projector
[15:20] <ferrieres> ok, so i shut my... fingers :)
[15:21] <Gnea> DamienCassou: oh, I've never heard a projector referred to as a 'beamer'.  what video card do you use?
[15:21] <DamienCassou> at least, that how I call them (I'm french :-))
[15:21] <Gnea> DamienCassou: let's just not go there and stick to getting the 'projector' to work ;-)
[15:22] <DamienCassou> Gnea: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core
[15:23] <ferrieres> again I log out and log in with xfce4 (installed)
[15:24] <DamienCassou> Gnea: hmmm. That's strange. I tried with 2 projectors and it didn't work. Now, I'm at my office and have some time but can't reproduce the problem with the team's projector :-(
[15:25] <Gnea> DamienCassou: oh, it's built-in vga from the cpu?
[15:25] <SunTsu> DamienCassou: you're connecting that projector to the same graphics port as you do external displays?
[15:25] <DamienCassou> I think so but am not sure. I'm on a laptop
[15:26] <ferrieres> ActionParsnip : still here ?
[15:26] <DamienCassou> SunTsu: yes. And it's working fine with my external monitor.
[15:27] <DamienCassou> for the projector, I use a vga/mini-displayport adaptor (I'm on a macbook pro)
[15:27] <ferrieres> how to restart the X server from shell ?
[15:28] <mortenmadsen> Hi, total Linux noob - need help with mounting HFS Plus Usb disk Read Write !? Anybody ???
[15:29] <Gnea> DamienCassou: have you turned the laptop off, then turned it back on with the projector plugged in already?
[15:30] <SunTsu> DamienCassou: Never tried that, all my laptops still have vga ports and worked out of the box
[15:30] <DamienCassou> Gnea: I tried a reboot
[15:31] <Gnea> DamienCassou: try a full-powered shutdown. the laptop may need to know about the device through bios.
[15:31] <ferrieres> ok, i tried service gdm stop then start
[15:32] <DamienCassou> ok, thank you
[15:32] <DamienCassou> anything else I could test next time I have a beamer that does not work?
[15:33] <DamienCassou> Gnea: just to note: my team's beamer works just fine on my computer. I found 2 beamers that didn't work immediately
[15:33] <mortenmadsen> Can anybody help me mount a USB disk RW and not only RO
[15:33] <SunTsu> DamienCassou: check your BIOS if your laptop has two GPUs, modern laptops often do. One that's integrated into the chipset and one that's sort of externel. If you do try both
[15:34] <DamienCassou> I don't think I have anything related to a bios tool. I never saw any on macbooks
[15:35] <bazhang> mortenmadsen, got hfsplus and hfsutils installed yet?
[15:35] <MarcGuay> Is there a way to set the keyboard to allow for Windows-style alt-key character codes?  (I've found alternatives like Compose Key and all of that, I'm looking for a way to keep the exact same functionality)
[15:36] <TsarObomba> Hey guys, I used to compile kernels by hand all the time. And right now I want to do just that, but the "ubuntu or debiAn way". so i end up with packages
[15:36] <TsarObomba> Dont ask "why on earth would you do that", i can fix breakages, im a big boy
[15:37] <Gnea> DamienCassou: no, I mean that the bios needs to 'see' the beamer as it is turning on to 'know' that it exists
[15:37] <bazhang> !checkinstall | TsarObomba
[15:37] <TsarObomba> Anyways, -pf has released their 3.11 patchset, but they dont release ubuntu or debian binaries, and the guy who does has not updated
[15:37] <bazhang> !compile > TsarObomba
[15:37] <TsarObomba> im familiar with checkinstall
[15:37] <TsarObomba> and i know how to compile
[15:37] <TsarObomba> I compile anjdrpoid roms, 20x times a day
[15:38] <bazhang> TsarObomba, whats the question then
[15:38] <TsarObomba> But I? know ubuntu/debian has a special method for kernels
[15:38] <hfase> compiling Linus source works for me after make menuconfig and make deb
[15:38] <TsarObomba> What is that method
[15:38] <TsarObomba> Nevermind
[15:38] <TsarObomba> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[15:38] <hfase> make deb-pkg i mean
[15:38] <TsarObomba> As usual, gettting help here is pulling teeth
[15:39] <TsarObomba> hfase: good to know
[15:39] <TsarObomba> thanksz
[15:39] <TsarObomba> the first person who didnt treat my question as a noob :P
[15:39] <TsarObomba> seriously, thanks
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> TsarObomba  there's also #ubuntu-kernel
[15:39] <hfase> stanfard c compiler stuff, if you read the readme for linux on GitHub
[15:39] <TsarObomba> Time to read that wiki page i posted
[15:39] <TsarObomba> MonkeyDust: good to know
[15:39] <TsarObomba> hfase: i wonder, will it build with clang yet?
[15:40] <TsarObomba> clang is compatible with mosty gcc stuff
[15:40] <hfase> when i compile it though there are a few things missing, like tty and graphics
[15:40] <TsarObomba> And Ive been experimenting with using it over gcc4.7 on android roms
[15:40] <TsarObomba> eww
[15:40] <TsarObomba> Well i have open graphics
[15:40] <TsarObomba> intel
[15:40] <ferrieres> I'm back..
[15:40] <TsarObomba> The other box is nvidia, but that can stick on liquorix
[15:40] <DamienCassou> Gnea: I was answering SunTsu. But ok, thank you for your tip, I will try. Need to leave now
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> TsarObomba  and for develeopers, there's #ubuntu-app-devel, i guess you're not in the right channel
[15:40] <DamienCassou> Gnea SunTsu thank you both
[15:40] <ferrieres> ActionParsnip, are you still there ?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: back, wassup
[15:41] <ferrieres> Please someone ... help !
[15:41] <TsarObomba> hmm, that wiki page is for bui8lding the ubuntu patched kernel
[15:41] <TsarObomba> which i dont want, not new enough
[15:41] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: ask the question again
[15:41] <echo747> are there any settings I can change in ubuntu to help speed up an older pc?
[15:41] <TsarObomba> dont just ask for help
[15:42] <TsarObomba> echo747: there are some, disabling startup programs and such. But really, i would recommend lubuntu
[15:42] <ferrieres> ok... i'm on a HP Probook with a ATI Radeon gpu
[15:42] <TsarObomba> Its a nice GUI, and very light
[15:42] <TsarObomba> Great for old PC's even better than xubuntu
[15:42] <TsarObomba> Which isnt any faster than gnome2 these days
[15:42] <echo747> TsarObomba thanks, never heard of that distro
[15:42] <ferrieres> and i encounter ssome big pb till i'm back from hollidays...
[15:43] <TsarObomba> echo747: `its a official derivative of ubuntu
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: could try the 3.5 kernel
[15:43] <TsarObomba> echo747: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[15:43] <ferrieres> ActionParsnip : how ?
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: Lubuntu is not LTS though (sadly)
[15:43] <TsarObomba> ferret_: you really havent saids the problem
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> ferrieres: enable the backport repo. I forget the package name
[15:43] <ferrieres> ActionParsnip : i'm stuck in a logout try : no more xserver...
[15:44] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: thats not a big deal for an older system
[15:44] <TsarObomba> ferries*
[15:44] <TsarObomba> sorry ferret_
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: depends when it will be disposd of
[15:44] <TsarObomba> new LTS is coming shortly
[15:44] <TsarObomba> Agaoin, not a big deal, enable backports
[15:44] <TsarObomba> Its lubuntu
[15:44] <ferrieres> ok, tsarobomba, forget about my name... call me fer
[15:44] <TsarObomba> not a top of line computer
[15:44] <Adam-85> i try to format partation with file type ntfs and get this msg : Failed to execute child process "mkfs.nilfs2
[15:45] <ferrieres> the laptop is 4 years old
[15:45] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: so you are stuck in the terminal?
[15:45] <ferrieres> yes
[15:45] <ferrieres> tty1&2
[15:45] <TsarObomba> Were you use the amd/atoi propietary driver, or the raqdeon driver?
[15:45] <ferrieres> 1 for ircII, 2 for ... apt-ing or lynxing stuff
[15:46] <Arief> hello
[15:46] <TsarObomba> what happens if you clt+alt+f7
[15:46] <TsarObomba> you need to get your xorg log, so we can see whats happening
[15:46] <ferrieres> Tsar : ActionP. told me to change for fglrx as AMD doesnt support the driver anymore
[15:46] <TsarObomba> fglrx is amd
[15:47] <TsarObomba> thats amds propietary driver
[15:47] <TsarObomba> so you mean you switched to radeon (the open source driver)
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: lubuntu 14.04 will also not be LTS (as far as I am aware)
[15:47] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: i dont care, honestly
[15:47] <TsarObomba> its up to him
[15:47] <ferrieres> tasr: the server X is out, stuck in "X11 initialization failed"
[15:47] <TsarObomba> He could take ubuntu base
[15:47] <TsarObomba> and install lubuntu
[15:47] <TsarObomba> I dont care what he does, it was a mere sugesstion
[15:48] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: ok, so lets get a log
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: it will then be lubuntu, and not lts
[15:48] <ferrieres> tsar : i tried to mean this but the name of the package is smthg like fglr...
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: you can install lxde and openbox and keep support though :)
[15:48] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: um, if you took 13.04 ubuntu and installed lubuntu-desktop, it would give you lxde/lubuntu but on 13.04
[15:48] <TsarObomba> who cares
[15:48] <TsarObomba> honestly
[15:48] <TsarObomba> not i
[15:49] <bazhang> !enter | TsarObomba
[15:49]  * TsarObomba ends pointless conversation going nowhere
[15:49] <TsarObomba> bazhang: ya ya
[15:49] <TsarObomba> i dont see you helping
[15:49] <honestly> TsarObomba: sup buddy
[15:49] <TsarObomba> seriously?
[15:49] <TsarObomba> Wow
[15:49] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: anyhways
[15:49] <bazhang> TsarObomba, lose the attitude
[15:50] <Pici> (end the excessive enters)
[15:50] <TsarObomba> bazhang: sutre thing
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> :)
[15:50] <ferrieres> ok, can i ask for help ? ;)
[15:50] <TsarObomba> This is why i never come here..... (attitude implied, just truth)
[15:50] <Adam-85> Failed to execute child process "mkfs.nilfs2 how to fix plz
[15:50] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: im trying to help
[15:50] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: install pastebinit
[15:50] <TsarObomba> so you can pastebin the log from terminal
[15:50] <Pici> Adam-85: What are you running before you get that?
[15:51] <TsarObomba> lemme know when you get that installed
[15:51] <ferrieres> i have no access to a firefox windows
[15:51] <Adam-85> format my partation
[15:51] <Pici> Adam-85: What exactly are you typing?
[15:51] <Adam-85> by disk utility
[15:51] <ferrieres> pastebinit is for pasting some text on web ?
[15:51] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: you dont need firefox
[15:51] <TsarObomba> or X
[15:51] <ferrieres> ok
[15:51] <TsarObomba> pastebinit works from the terminal
[15:52] <TsarObomba> you do like pastebinit somefile.txt
[15:52] <TsarObomba> and it spits out a url
[15:52] <mortenmadsen> NEED HELP mounting a IUSB HFSplus disk read write - anybody ??
[15:52] <TsarObomba> like mine
[15:52] <Pici> Adam-85: Are you sure that you actually picked NTFS?  nils is another filesystem type.
[15:53] <TsarObomba> $ pastebinit Xorg.0.log                                                                                                                                  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6088528/
[15:53] <bazhang> mortenmadsen, did you install hfsplus and hfsutils yet
[15:53] <juboba> hey, I need help installing Ubuntu on a HP
[15:53] <ferrieres> ok,
[15:53] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: once pastebin is installed. do this: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:53] <TsarObomba> and put the url in chat
[15:53] <TsarObomba> so we can see it
[15:53] <ferrieres> ok, i read this log once...
[15:54] <TsarObomba> Im sure one of us, besides me will take a look
[15:54] <ferrieres> but you know more than me
[15:54] <TsarObomba> The things that say error are the issues :P
[15:54] <juboba> hey, I need help installing Ubuntu on a HP 1105 with UEFI
[15:54] <TsarObomba> jubba_: elaborate pleASE
[15:54] <juboba> TsarObomba, how?
[15:54] <TsarObomba> help can mean many things. without knowing your ssue we can not help
[15:54] <TsarObomba> What do you need "help" with
[15:55] <juboba> I can't boot with my USB drive
[15:55] <OerHeks> !uefi | juboba
[15:55] <ferrieres> ok : 6088537 is the number ;-)
[15:56] <juboba> thanks OerHeks
[15:56] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: the number of the url?
[15:57] <Adam-85> Pici: yeah i need it as ntfs
[15:57] <TsarObomba> ie http://paste.ubuntu.com/6088537
[15:57] <Pici> Adam-85: Make sure that you actually picked NTFS and not NILFS
[15:57] <ferrieres> yes
[15:57] <TsarObomba> BTW people, i am ignoring ubottu (for feature reference) unasked for P<M's are completely against ircetiquette
[15:58] <ferrieres> sorry i've tried to understand this log...
[15:58] <TsarObomba> iuts ok
[15:58] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: there are no errors in there
[15:58] <ferrieres> iuts ?
[15:58] <TsarObomba> errors would EE
[15:58] <TsarObomba> like (EE) where you are seeing (II)
[15:58] <TsarObomba> But you are using fglrx, NOT radeon the open source drive3r
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !ubottu | TsarObomba
[15:59] <TsarObomba> whgat s your card?
[15:59] <ferrieres> ok, let's say.. but alt+ctrl+F7 is a black screen with white words on it...
[15:59] <TsarObomba> BluesKaj: ukmmm, im well aware what the bot is
[16:00] <ferrieres> my card is (lspci|grep "VGA") :
[16:00] <TsarObomba> All I was referring to is the annoying pm'[s, if it said "Hey YOU, im gonna send a pm ok?" and you said Ubottu: Ok, that would be great, otherwise its unwanted spam
[16:00] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: um that is not your card
[16:00] <TsarObomba> thats the command to find the card
[16:00] <ferrieres> RV710/M92
[16:00] <TsarObomba> ok
[16:00] <TsarObomba> let me google that
[16:00] <ferrieres> from AMD/ATI
[16:01] <TsarObomba> yes i know
[16:01] <BluesKaj> TsarObomba, I'm sure you are and it's a friendly reminder that the bot /factoids have their place despite your opinions about irc etiquette.
[16:01] <TsarObomba> have you tried just rebooting?
[16:01] <ferrieres> Mobility Radeon HD 4xxx
[16:01] <TsarObomba> BluesKaj: thats great
[16:01] <ferrieres> yes, twice...
[16:01] <TsarObomba> Its still agaiunst classic irc netiquette
[16:01] <ferrieres> but not till i install xfce4
[16:01] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: caquse xorg is working
[16:02] <TsarObomba> so what, you have ubuntu (with unity) and install xfce?
[16:02] <TsarObomba> how did you install xfce?
[16:02] <ferrieres> apt-get install
[16:02] <TsarObomba> xubuntu-desktop?
[16:02] <BluesKaj> classic irc etiquette .. gimme a break :)
[16:02] <TsarObomba> or install xfce?
[16:02] <TsarObomba> BluesKaj: sorry im older than you, cant help that
[16:02] <Adam-85> Pici: Failed to execute child process "mkfs.nilfs2 how to fix plz , yeah i'm sure abut make it as ntfs file system
[16:02] <TsarObomba> AQnyways, back to the topic
[16:03] <TsarObomba> Helping this chap with his xorg, that isnt broken
[16:03] <BluesKaj> TsarObomba, I doubt that very much
[16:03] <ferrieres> i got a 11.04 version forst, not liked unity, installed gnome, configure compiz, quiet the plymouth , got the 12.04 and went on hollidays... got back and stuck on this pb since friday
[16:04] <ferrieres> no i'm in a ubuntu at the begining
[16:04] <ferrieres> chap ? what's that ?
[16:04] <OerHeks> Ati 2xxx/3xxx/4xxx are no longer supported by the fglx driver ferrieres. use the open source driver. see the !ati factoid
[16:05] <ferrieres> xorg took smthg like 70% of the CPU till friday... every boot, every try...
[16:05] <ferrieres> i've seen that... i just find out that my ubuntu version is precisely 12.04.3.... the ONE
[16:06] <ferrieres> ok, so instead of fglx, what do i install ?
[16:06] <ferrieres> !ati factoid ? what's that ?
[16:06] <tgm4883> !ati
[16:06] <Adam-85> Failed to execute child process "mkfs.nilfs2" ؟؟
[16:08] <OerHeks> ferrieres, use these 2 lines to uninstall and return to the open driver >> http://askubuntu.com/a/210041
[16:08] <ferrieres> ok, i first reboot... and try xfce4 but i'm not convinced : it's a pb of graphic card driver, i think now..
[16:08] <ferrieres> thx OerHeks, i'll try with lynx to get this lines
[16:08] <OerHeks> ferrieres, hold on, i paste them
[16:09] <mortenmadsen> Can anybody help a NOOB mount a USB drive as RW ???
[16:09] <OerHeks> ferrieres, sudo apt-get remove fglrx-* && sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[16:09] <TsarObomba> ferret_: you need to make sure radeon supports your card
[16:09] <TsarObomba> but i believe it does
[16:09] <bazhang> mortenmadsen, I've asked twice if you have installed hfsplus and hfsutils yet
[16:09] <ferrieres> ok, i try
[16:10] <ferrieres> let's all believe...
[16:10] <mortenmadsen> bazhang: SORRY i wrote OM to you
[16:10] <bazhang> mortenmadsen, keep it in channel for support please
[16:10] <mortenmadsen> thought you were away ore something :-)
[16:10] <mortenmadsen> sure, no problem
[16:10] <ferrieres> ...wait for login on tty3...
[16:11] <mortenmadsen> Ok, my problem is that I have a USB hfsplus disk, that WAS mounted so i could READ/WRITE to it
[16:11] <mortenmadsen> now I can only read
[16:12] <mortenmadsen> I have installed HFS
[16:12] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: your X server is on tty7
[16:12] <ferrieres> yes
[16:12] <TsarObomba> ferrieres: sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[16:12] <ferrieres> not tty...
[16:12] <TsarObomba> do that'
[16:12] <mortenmadsen> bazhang: i have installed hfsplus and hfsutils
[16:12] <ferrieres> i've done service lightdm start... isn't it the same ?
[16:13] <ferrieres> but it still remove the fglrx package
[16:13] <ferrieres> so i wait the end of the removing...
[16:14] <mortenmadsen> bazhang:  I use this: sudo mount -o force -t hfsplus /dev/sdb1 /media/toshiba2tb/
[16:14] <mortenmadsen> bazhang: it says mount: warning: /media/toshiba2tb/ seems to be mounted read-only.
[16:14] <ferrieres> Tsar: do i have to remove fglrx and install radeon or keep fglrx ???
[16:16] <ferrieres> Ok, let's say i remove it because it is written that the 12.04.3 is not supported and try the radeon then rebooting... tsar : do you agree ?
[16:17] <ferrieres> the removing is stuck on updating initramfs
[16:19] <ferrieres> Tsar ? still there ?
[16:19] <Adam-85> Failed to execute child process "mkfs.nilfs2" ؟؟
[16:20] <Pici> Adam-85: You could install the nilfs-tools package, but I really think that you're not clicking on the right option in the disk utility.
[16:21] <Adam-85> how to install ntfs-tools package
[16:21] <geothom> does anybody know what is going on with XMir and Intel?
[16:22] <compdoc> geothom, apparently Intel and the rest of the world are going with Wayland
[16:22] <Pici> Adam-85: again. ntfs is not the same as nilfs2.  You need to make sure that you are clicking on the right option in disk utility for NTFS.
[16:22] <jcbjoe> hi all
[16:22] <geothom> Like redhat take wayland
[16:23] <jcbjoe> am i connected right now ?
[16:23] <jcbjoe> seems like it
[16:23] <Pici> Adam-85: if you still want to continue: sudo apt-get install nilfs-tools
[16:23] <otak> mortenmadsen: start with sudo mount -o remount,rw ...
[16:23] <Adam-85> Pici: done and choose ntfs not ntfs2 but what is different between them ??
[16:24] <Pici> Adam-85: I'm pretty sure that you're not reading the font on your screen properly. Theres no such thing as ntfs2.
[16:26] <ferrieres> Tsar ?
[16:27] <atsui> testing
[16:27] <Sarge> test
[16:27] <ferrieres> Impossible to find the ati, or the radeon package... what should i install, instead of fglrx ???? help !!
[16:27] <jcbjoe> anyone get that ?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: if you can see text, you are connected
[16:28] <jcbjoe> i basically need a iso (net install) that is live so i can basically boot into ubuntu then install it
[16:28] <jcbjoe> a lot of other ubuntu ios hate the fact i don't have a cdrom and even though i boot via usb it errors out
[16:28] <jcbjoe> s/ios/iso/
[16:28] <Sarge> u can't do a CD install, jcbjoe?
[16:28] <jcbjoe> Sarge i have a lenov twist its a ultrabook where it flips around into tablet mode and whatever .. no cdrom
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: use unetbootin with the ubuntu iso o make a live usb OS
[16:29] <Sarge> bootable USB stick?
[16:29] <jcbjoe> yes i thought unebootin i just choose the iso then boot
[16:29] <jcbjoe> didn't know unetbootin can make a live iso
[16:30] <ferrieres> ok, i'm helping myself alone : man apt gave me apt-cache search
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: yes, thats it's job
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: to put iso on usb
[16:31] <jcbjoe> ActionParsnip do i download the distro first from torrent then use unetbootin or download straight from unetbooin by choosing the os in the presets ?
[16:32] <OerHeks> jrgiffo1 why so many clones?
[16:32] <TsarObomba> Hey guys, im building that kernel now. But I need help with udev rules. It woyuld be a simple rule, its just i cannot wrap my head around how to write it
[16:32] <TsarObomba> basically, something that does this
[16:32] <TsarObomba> chmod 666 /sys/class/leds/tpacpi\:\:thinklight/brightness
[16:33] <TsarObomba> otherwise i need to do that on each boot to access the thinklight without root
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> TsarObomba  have you asked in #ubuntu-kernel, as I suggested earlier?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: you can download the ISO as you wish, as long as it is complete and consistent it doesnt matter
[16:33] <TsarObomba> and im tyring to make a script for kvirc where it blinks the light on nick highlights
[16:33] <TsarObomba> MonkeyDust: you really thing they are gonna deal with udev?
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: once you have the ISO you can use unetbootin to put t on the USB stick and make it bootable
[16:33] <TsarObomba> udev isnt really kernel, but sure
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: if you add the command in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line, it will run each boot as root
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: after the command runs the DM will load
[16:34] <Sarge> I d-l'd ISO from the 'net, saved to local HD, then ran CD burner on it to make bootable copy on CD but USB stick works too.
[16:34] <jcbjoe> yea it looks the same the one coming from unetbootin is 785mb and the torrent one im downading is 7985mb
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> jcbjoe: if you have the ISO and it MD5 tests as Ok, use that
[16:35] <jcbjoe> s/coming/downloading/
[16:35] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: oh ya? nice
[16:36] <TsarObomba> TsarObomba: what user runs that?
[16:36] <TsarObomba> root?
[16:36] <dandy^801y^> saaalve!!!
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> TsarObomba: the commands in rc.local run as root
[16:36] <TsarObomba> ok sweet
[16:36] <TsarObomba> thanks bud
[16:36] <dandy^801y^> why ubuntu?
[16:37] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: now i need to figure out a simple script to blink it, i know how to turn it off and on. But all the C programs and bash scripts etc are no longer there, links are deads
[16:37] <BluesKaj> why not ubuntu , dandy^801y^?
[16:37] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkLight
[16:37] <dandy^801y^> the best is fedora
[16:37] <jcbjoe> wow 3,299 seeders for this iso
[16:37] <TsarObomba> Im trying to make a something for kvirc that will blink the light when I get a hilight in a channel im not looking at
[16:38] <TsarObomba> I already have it set to play a sound when a 718 irc numeric comes in (someone not on whitelist messages me)
[16:38] <BluesKaj> ok dandy^801y^ are you going to troll or do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:38] <TsarObomba> So if I could come up with a script, that would be awesome
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> dandy^801y^: that is offtopic here
[16:38] <dandy^801y^> i have questions
[16:40] <dandy^801y^> how to make install ubuntu dual boot with windows
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot
[16:40] <dandy^801y^> host linux
[16:40] <ferrieres> ok, Tsar... can i ask for a litlle more help ?
[16:40] <compdoc> dandy^801y^, careful with that - be sure to back up the drive
[16:40] <dandy^801y^> thx
[16:41] <dandy^801y^> !dualboot
[16:42] <ferrieres> Did I said something that hurt any of TsarObomba or ActionPArsnip ???
[16:42] <compdoc> yikes
[16:42] <BluesKaj> ferrieres, don't ask to ask , just ask :)
[16:42] <TsarObomba> ActionParsnip: one more, on my remote buildbox (very fast desktop, FX-8350 8 core, 32GB DDR3, 5.2TB raid, two SSDs (60GB and 256, with the 256GB dedicated to just my $HOME.
[16:43] <TsarObomba> Anyways, I had to recreate the user I use
[16:43] <ferrieres> Thx BluesKaj...
[16:43] <TsarObomba> Because of issues after moving my files to the different drive when I filled the 60GB doing ancdroid stuff
[16:44] <TsarObomba> But the local user used the KDE user thingy, and it didnt make thre normal .bashrc and whatever other .bash files a normal user would have
[16:44] <TsarObomba> Like using addusder script
[16:44] <ferrieres> there are plenty of package in apt-cache search radeon command... some of them i know (fglrx, xserver-...Ã) and some not ... which one should i install ???
[16:44] <TsarObomba> Could someone tell me which .bash* files they have and maybe pastebin them
[16:44] <TsarObomba> So i dont have to remake the user, again
[16:45] <TsarObomba> I have .bash_history that it made on its own, but my .bashrc wasnt there, so I created it, but only two lines
[16:46] <ferrieres> So that was my question...
[16:46] <jcbjoe> I'm back / i booted my live usb drive with ubuntu 13.0.4 on it .. my trackpad isn't working .. if its not working in the install it won't work when i reboot to the os correct ??
[16:46] <jamiejackson> hi folks. trying to move /usr to another partition. i attached the ubuntu drive and the new usr drive/partition in centos to perform the copy (maybe it would have been better to do this right in ubuntu, i don't know.). i tried copying with "rsync -aXSlv -A", but i'm getting  errors like this:
[16:46] <jamiejackson> rsync: rsync_xal_clear: lremovexattr("src/linux-headers-3.5.0-40/virt/kvm/.Kconfig.Dlnq3T","security.selinux") failed: Permission denied (
[16:46] <ferrieres> ok, bye...
[16:47] <jcbjoe> according to google i have to install it
[16:47] <jamiejackson> what's the best way to copy usr to another partition? (i've googled it, but the results are a little old, and i don't know if they address selinux properly)
[16:47] <jcbjoe> http://www.itworld.com/software/353998/install-synaptic-ubuntu-1304
[16:48] <jamiejackson> (i can handle the fstab bits, but i'm not sure about the copy operation)
[16:48] <TsarObomba> dang, actionparsnip left
[16:48] <jcbjoe> hmm have it installed already
[16:48] <TsarObomba> Anyone else have a stock .bashrc?
[16:49] <SunTsu> jamiejackson: I's use rsync
[16:49] <TsarObomba> Im just looking for the stock .bash* files
[16:49] <SunTsu> "I'd"
[16:49] <TsarObomba> Because i lost them
[16:49] <jcbjoe> input list doesn't show my touchpad or drivers
[16:49] <tsimpson> TsarObomba: /etc/skel/.bashrc
[16:49] <jcbjoe> err xinput*
[16:49] <jamiejackson> SunTsu: did you see my message about my rsync errors (a few posts above)?
[16:49] <SunTsu> jamiejackson: no, I didn't
[16:51] <SunTsu> jamiejackson: looks like SELinux is active, you might want to boot from a live image and do it from there
[16:51] <jamiejackson> SunTsu: i *think* i'm in a simlar context as a live image, as i've attached the drives to another linux. correct me if i'm wrong, please.
[16:52] <SunTsu> jamiejackson: yeah, but this linux might have SELinux enabled
[16:52] <jcbjoe> is 13.04 stable ?
[16:52] <SunTsu> live images never do
[16:53] <jcbjoe> http://askubuntu.com/questions/305820/fresh-13-04-install-laptop-keyboard-touchpad-not-working
[16:53] <jcbjoe> this probably will fix it
[16:53] <jamiejackson> SunTsu: okay, i think i'll try disabling selinux temporarily on centos and try the copy again. if that fails, i'l go to a real live image. SunTsu, could you sanity check my rsync options, above? in particular, am i all set with symlinks, etc.?
[16:55] <pedrog> hi guys, can someone speculate why my broadband pen only works when my laptop is connect to my office dock station
[16:55] <SunTsu> jamiejackson: sorry, currently have the time
[16:55] <SunTsu> er *don't
[16:55] <jamiejackson> np, thanks, SunTsu
[16:57] <jcbjoe> resolution w00t
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> pedrog, broadband pen?
[17:01] <pedrog> wilee-nilee: 3g usb modem
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> pedrog, Outside of any ubuntu support, but it must be voodoo. ;)
[17:05] <tgm4883> Can I ask a question about a program that is in the Ubuntu archives in here?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> tgm4883, ask away
[17:07] <tgm4883> Is there a way to forward all of the email contained in a mailman archive? I'm trying to migrate a list to google groups and keep the archive
[17:10] <megagon> 1
[17:12] <megagon> screen -d
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> pedrog, If you want help though run lsusb and identify the unit.
[17:20] <SuperLag> Second question... I've got a .desktop file created for my IDE, I can see it in the Unity Launcher, and start it from the command line, but it doesn't stay in the launcher when I close it, even though I've selected "Lock to Launcher". What gives?
[17:22] <pedrog> wilee-nilee: looking at that now.... strange the ids are different from my usb_modeswitch.d file
[17:23] <Deevilman> Hey guys. An adept Ubuntu user here. I just decided to update Nvidia drivers and poof. black screen blinking curser. I can't access the terminal or get into failsafe mode.
[17:24]  * pedrog rebooting
[17:24] <nulln0pnap> you may want to boot from a live usb and try to revert the changes
[17:24] <mrrcp> question: Has anyone here setup a code generator login on ubuntu?
[17:25] <mrrcp> or does anyone know how or a site?
[17:25] <Deevilman> I have never figured out hiow to boot from a live medium and then make changes to an existing OS.
[17:27] <Monday> is there a free and open source version of this http://flavio.tordini.org/musictube
[17:28] <nulln0pnap> @Deevilman this may point you in the right direction http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/installation/17322-uninstalling-nvidia-driver.html
[17:28] <nulln0pnap> I would try the last suggestion
[17:29] <chaotic_good> is there a newer LTS thatn 12.04?
[17:29] <tgm4883> Deevilman, I find it odd you can't get to failsafe
[17:29] <mrrcp> so no one uses two factor authentication?
[17:29] <tgm4883> nulln0pnap, the @ isn't needed. I'm not sure if adding the @ would stop users getting pinged on their nick mention or not
[17:29] <tgm4883> mrrcp, I don't for my desktop login
[17:30] <nulln0pnap> tgm4883 ahh, damn Im getting old
[17:30] <tgm4883> mrrcp, also, please note that 2 factor authentication doesn't necessarily mean a key generator
[17:30] <gordonjcp> chaotic_good: no
[17:31] <altermann> hi there, i have 1 ubuntu machine which i've inherited from somebody and which i can't convert to my favorite distro yet
[17:32] <tgm4883> mrrcp, A quick google search found instructions for using Google Authenticator with a Google login
[17:32] <tgm4883> mrrcp, err, ubuntu login
[17:32] <altermann> that being said, connecting to it via ssh takes a while longer then other machines i have on the network
[17:32] <altermann> i noticed there's no dns entry in the sshd_config file
[17:34] <Deevilman> hm, what I can do is drop to shell through recovery mode
[17:34] <Deevilman> but the issue is, nothing gets mounted, so I can't make changes
[17:35] <gordonjcp> Deevilman: look up chroot
[17:35] <tgm4883> Deevilman, you need to remount / as rw
[17:36] <tgm4883> Deevilman, http://askubuntu.com/questions/175739/how-do-i-remount-a-filesystem-as-read-write
[17:36] <Deevilman> how is the remount achieved?
[17:37] <jamiejackson> i'm in the process of moving my /usr to a new partition. i have the old and new mounted in a live cd (centos, fwiw). i'm rsyncing with "sudo rsync -aXS" but am getting a lot of the following messages. can i ignore them? sudo rsync -aXS
[17:37] <mrrcp> so im new to the ipv6 but is it basically setup so you can connect to a device at anytime without the worry of a gateway blocking access to the device?
[17:38] <jamiejackson> ...rsync: rsync_xal_clear: lremovexattr("...", "security.selinux") failed: Permission denied (13)
[17:39] <Deevilman> mountall did it. Cheers guys
[17:40] <darth_damian_000> Hey guys, I am just wondering, if there is a way I can check if my hardware is compatible with ubuntu? I am having so many system crashes lately.
[17:41] <gordonjcp> darth_damian_000: is it some sort of PC?
[17:42] <darth_damian_000> it is a custom-made computer
[17:42] <gordonjcp> custom in what sense?
[17:42] <darth_damian_000> AMD CPU, Nvidia graphics card if any of this info is relevant
[17:42] <darth_damian_000> As in, I ordered the parts myself and put it together
[17:42] <gordonjcp> that's not really very custom
[17:42] <gordonjcp> that's just a PC
[17:42] <gordonjcp> what sort of crashes?
[17:42] <malrog_> Hello i need some help... dont know what to do here = Enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories (for bumblebee and nvidia packages respectively).
[17:42] <darth_damian_000> custom made PC as opposed to some tower I bought in a store
[17:42] <starbuck> hi, i have problem with printing an image. i want it to get fitted into A4 size automatically, without borders... is this possible?
[17:42] <ccolorado> Hi there, How can i set LC_COLLATE for a single user ?
[17:43] <darth_damian_000> First, the screen freezes, then, the image gets distorted (there are a bunch of squares that resemble the desktop image all over the screen) and i am forced to reboot
[17:43] <darth_damian_000> this happens when, for example, I use my mouse scroll wheel excessively, open a large PDF file, even happened when I played freecell
[17:44] <gordonjcp> darth_damian_000: are you running the proprietary NVidia drivers, or nouveau?
[17:45] <mrrcp> d/quit
[17:45] <darth_damian_000> gordonjcp, I do not know. I installed ubuntu 13.04 and I have not made any driver modification. To best answer your question, I would say the "default" drivers that come during installation
[17:45] <darth_damian_000> it was a clean install, by the way
[17:45] <gordonjcp> okay, that's nouveau
[17:45] <gordonjcp> might be worth giving the proprietary drivers a shot?
[17:46] <Sach> Having trouble installing memtest to a usb.  Can someone help me through the instructions?  I'm confused by "As root type: dd if=memtest86-<ver>.usb.img of=dev where dev is the device the key is assigned to"
[17:47] <darth_damian_000> But if anything, it is most likely the graphics drivers?
[17:47] <darth_damian_000> ...that is causing those crashes
[17:47] <illum> Which part is confusing Sach?
[17:48] <|Anthony|> has anyone been able to get echo cancellation to work for mumble?
[17:48] <Deevilman> and I can't login to the tty for some reason. Bare in mind I do almost everything through the terminal
[17:52] <oh_no_> in a routing / subnet bind. I cannot resolve anything by hostname on a different subnet, but can by IP. Would anyone mind helping me out? I'm traversing a FortiGate firewall, but my problem seems to be in DNS/routing.
[17:53] <liquidstone> how to install sdl2 on ubuntu without compiling
[17:54] <sporkeee> Deevilman, less details please. ;)
[17:55] <Sach> Having trouble installing memtest to a usb.  Can someone help me through the instructions?  I'm confused by "As root type: dd if=memtest86-<ver>.usb.img of=dev where dev is the device the key is assigned to"
[17:55] <sanguisdex> ubuntu updater is ignoring the no update settings that I set in aptitude for a package. how to I tell ubuntu updater that I don't want to update a package?
[18:00] <bkfitz> Anyone familiar with using Putty to sftp to ubuntu using key pairs?
[18:04] <Zokmork> xfwm4 is being wonky
[18:05] <Zokmork> It will randomly cause the minimize, maximize, and close window icons to disappear.  I think that xfwm4 is randomly shutting down.  I have no idea why!
[18:06] <Zokmork> The solution to the problem is thus:
[18:06] <Zokmork> (1)  Alt+f2
[18:06]  * reisio expects many more shoes
[18:06] <Zokmork> (2)  Type 'xwfm4'
[18:07] <Zokmork> (3)  Hit run.
[18:07] <reisio> ...
[18:07] <Zokmork> (4)  The problem disappears.
[18:07] <Zokmork> What is triggering the wonkiness?
[18:07] <reisio> did the entire border of the window disappear?
[18:08] <Zokmork> Yes.
[18:08] <Zokmork> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[18:08] <reisio> you might have still been using compiz, and not xfwm at all
[18:08] <reisio> impossible to tell now
[18:09] <Zokmork> I actually tried to run compiz first.
[18:09] <reisio> you probably did
[18:09] <theverant> So I had a 12TB RAID iSCSI server catch fire and I need to access the RAID.  Only the system drive was damaged - it was the molex -> sata power connector that burned, and took out the system drive with it.  The RAID drives and rest of the system are thankfully unharmed
[18:09] <reisio> and it ran without borders, as is its want
[18:09] <reisio> mystery solved
[18:09] <Zokmork> From the 'alt+f2' process.
[18:09] <Zokmork> compiz didn't fix the problem.
[18:09] <theverant> I've put in a new system drive and installed 12.04 LTS server, but wondering if people have ideas about the best way to get that iSCSI back up and running
[18:10] <reisio> s/want/wont/
[18:10] <theverant> without data loss :)
[18:10] <reisio> Zokmork: compiz was the problem
[18:10] <[CaBeTuX]> Hi guys!
[18:11] <Zokmork> reisio:  Before I noticed the problem, was compiz running?
[18:11] <reisio> Zokmork: impossible to tell now
[18:11] <[CaBeTuX]> I need implement pam_tty_audit.so in Ubuntu Server 12.04.02
[18:11] <Zokmork> reisio:  Ok, I'll look up the difference.
[18:11] <theverant> I set up the system 5 years ago and it's run like a champ ever since, so I have completely forgotten the setup routine.  If I assign the volume group and logical volume info to the RAID, will it damage any of the data?
[18:11] <Zokmork> reisio:  Thank you for the assistance.
[18:11] <reisio> :)
[18:12] <curfont> I have an Intel Core 2 6300 / 3 GB RAM oldish PC which used to run windows, and be able to play 1080p fine. I recently put ubuntu and anything that is 1080p doesnt play smoothly
[18:12] <curfont> 720p plays fine
[18:12] <curfont> It has a GTX 275 GPU in it
[18:12] <curfont> latest nvidia drivers
[18:12] <theverant> sfdisk won't read the RAID volume properly because it is a GPT/HFS system
[18:13] <strange> curfont: install vdpau
[18:13] <[CaBeTuX]> I need to audit the commands run as "root" or rather, what interests me most is when a user with permissions for "sudo-i, sudo bash, sudo-s, etc". Because from there lose "visibilty" of what happens.
[18:13] <curfont> strange: and what media player would take advantage of that?
[18:14] <theverant> installing xubuntu desktop now, so I can use gparted and see if there is any useful information I can get about the RAID
[18:14] <strange> xbmc
[18:14] <strange> plays from gpu then
[18:14] <curfont> strange: doesnt xbmc just use mplayer?
[18:14] <strange> no
[18:14] <curfont> i see
[18:14] <strange> it has everyting inhouse now
[18:14] <[CaBeTuX]> pam_tty_audit not are more available, right?
[18:14] <strange> so if you install vdpau
[18:14] <bekks> theverant: just use parted instead of *fdisk
[18:14] <strange> and compile xbmc with vdpau enabled you can play *
[18:14] <theverant> bekks: I don't need to use gparted?
[18:14] <strange> libvdpau0 or something its called
[18:15] <theverant> I didn't realize gparted had a CLI…
[18:15] <bekks> theverant: No.
[18:15] <theverant> bekks: okay I'll start there, thanks
[18:15] <theverant> xubuntu desktop is almost installed now, so I'll just wait for that to finish.  :p
[18:16] <Strit> Hi all! :)
[18:16] <Marble68> HI all. linux experience level = n00b. Tech level=above average Ubuntu Version: server latest stable Problem: I have a Acer Revo (using nVidia drivers mcp79). Everything is connecting to the network great. Wired and Wireless. However, if I unplug the ethernet cable, the wireless stops working. I've tried commenting out eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces to no avail. For some reason, the wireless will NOT work unless the PC is connected 
[18:16] <Marble68> a wired network AND eth0 is enabled. I've found a few other people who have similar issues, and their resolutions haven't worked for me. I've configured wpa_supplicant as well as a full setup in interfaces.
[18:17] <Sach> Can anyone  see my problem here?   http://pastebin.com/XhYUAt7F
[18:17] <curfont> strange: in raring it seems the nvidia-vdpau package no longer exists, just vdpau by itself
[18:17] <strange> yes
[18:18] <curfont> does it matter?
[18:18] <curfont> http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/libvdpau1
[18:18] <curfont> it says package not available
[18:18] <strange> sudo apt-get install libvdpau1 libvdpau-dev
[18:18] <strange> those 2
[18:18] <curfont> ok
[18:18] <curfont> both are already installed it seems strange
[18:19] <strange> then install xbmc
[18:19] <strange> and enable vdpau
[18:19] <strange> then you can play 1080p
[18:19] <theverant> so yeah, parted reports proper partitions.  How does that relate to the volume groups and logical volumes?  Are those system based, or are they already assigned on the RAID, and if so, how do I know what they are?
[18:20] <bekks> theverant: We dont know what you can see there :)
[18:20] <theverant> I'll paste bin it
[18:21] <bekks> theverant: Whats does parted show, and whats the output of pvdisplay -C; vgdisplay -C; lvdisplay -C
[18:21] <theverant> http://pastebin.com/qGpZf9EV
[18:21] <theverant> parted
[18:21] <Pancho-j2me> Hola
[18:22] <Marble68> ANyone?
[18:22] <reisio> anyone what?
[18:22] <reisio> Pancho-j2me: shalom
[18:22] <Marble68> Have a suggestion about wifi not working if an ethernet cable isn't plugged in
[18:23] <theverant> Also for your viewing pleasure: http://imagebin.org/270487 http://imagebin.org/270489 http://imagebin.org/270490
[18:23] <theverant> lol
[18:23] <Pancho-j2me> Do you have the drivers for your wifi board?
[18:24] <Marble68> Pancho-j2me: Yes. Wifi works fine IF I also plug an ethernet cable in
[18:24] <theverant> pvdisplay -C: /dev/sda5  cinestor-vg lvm2 a-   55.66g    0
[18:24] <bkfitz> Anyone familiar with using Putty to sftp to ubuntu using key pairs?
[18:24] <Pancho-j2me> But how can u be sure it is not the ethernet giving you access to the internet?
[18:24] <theverant> vgdisplay:  cinestor-vg   1   2   0 wz--n- 55.66g    0
[18:25] <theverant> lvdisplay: root   cinestor-vg -wi-ao 51.66g and swap_1 cinestor-vg -wi-ao  4.00g
[18:25] <Marble68> Pancho-j2me: I don't know
[18:25] <theverant> I haven't tried to do anything with the RAID since I put in the new system drive
[18:26] <RobinHood2013> I'm unable to connect to Facebook via Empathy. The program says "Facebook account requires authorisation." I've tried modifying /usr/shar/accounts/providers/facebook.provider to use HTTPS, but that didn't work.
[18:26] <theverant> so it isn't mounted or anything, yet
[18:26] <Marble68> I can SSH to the WIFI IP address
[18:26] <bekks> theverant: the pv, vg, lv you can see are not on the the disk viewed with parted.
[18:26] <Sach> Having trouble installing memtest to a usb.  Can someone help me through the instructions?  I'm confused by "As root type: dd if=memtest86-<ver>.usb.img of=dev where dev is the device the key is assigned to"
[18:26] <Marble68> :(
[18:26] <theverant> bekks: is there a solution to that?
[18:26] <RobinHood2013> Upon further research, I discovered that a patched version of package 'telepathy-gabble' would fix this issue, but I have no idea how to get the patched version. Can someone help me out here?
[18:26] <bekks> theverant: To what?
[18:27] <Strit> @Marble68 you sure it's the wifi that's working and not just the ethernet?
[18:27] <theverant> sub not showing up in those displays
[18:27] <fanda5> frucoooo
[18:27] <theverant> sub = sdb
[18:27] <acu> I have a series of .jpg images taken 4 frames per second, I want to make movie out of them, what can I use (easiest)
[18:27] <reisio> acu: mencoder
[18:27] <Marble68> Strit: Yes. If cable plugged in, I can reach both statically assigned IPs. I can SSH to them.
[18:27] <bekks> theverant: You have to create a new pv, create a new vg / add the pv to the existing vg, create a new volume.
[18:27] <acu> riesio: do you have any example of what command I need to do ?
[18:27] <reisio> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-enc-images.html
[18:27] <reisio> acu: ^
[18:28] <theverant> bekks - that process won't compromise the data, will it?
[18:28] <bekks> theverant: Which data? On /dev/sdb ?
[18:28] <theverant> yeah,
[18:28] <bekks> theverant: Of course it will.
[18:28] <Marble68> Strit: Aha. you are right
[18:28] <Marble68> Strit: I did ping -I wlan0 and it fails
[18:28] <theverant> that's why I'm asking :D
[18:28] <Strit> :)
[18:28] <Marble68> ok. so this helps
[18:29] <theverant> is there a way to get it accessible without destroying the data?
[18:29] <bekks> theverant: No.
[18:29] <theverant> hmm
[18:30] <theverant> so, even though the RAID is there and the partitions are okay the data is inaccessible?
[18:30] <bekks> theverant: No. :)
[18:30] <bekks> theverant: If you want to access the data, mount the partition seen, and use your data.
[18:31] <theverant> I just can't use it in an iSCSI setup because it doesn't have the LV/VG info?
[18:31] <Marble68> Strit: So I can successfully do a iwlist wlan0 scan
[18:31] <Marble68> Strit: does that mean my drivers are loaded and I've just misconfigured something?
[18:32] <bekks> theverant: The PV/VG/LV configuration is totally irrelevant to iSCSI.
[18:32] <Strit> Marble68: Not sure. Might just mean that the system recognizes a wifi device.
[18:32] <HouseLegend> Hello everyone, i'm having trouble with setting up 5.1. Basicly, i manage to get it working with "alsamixer" in terminal and setting ch from 2 on 6, after a reboot it goes back to 2... and after lock/logout as well. Any tips ?
[18:32] <theverant> hmm
[18:32] <theverant> okay - I'm missing something!  :D
[18:33] <theverant> I was using this guide http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_12.04&p=iscsi
[18:33] <Marble68> Strit: Ok. So it "sees" the wifi device and it can scan the available networks and list them - but that doesn't necessarily mean it has a driver loaded?
[18:33] <theverant> Where I need to set up Lun 0 Path=/dev/vg_target00/lv_target00,Type=blockio
[18:33] <bekks> theverant: Well, when going to share a LV using iSCSI, you need the LV to be existant...
[18:33] <reisio> HouseLegend: you should probably be utilizing pulseaudio
[18:33] <theverant> ah
[18:33] <theverant> hmm
[18:33] <theverant> okay
[18:33] <theverant> maybe I didn't use LV
[18:34] <FloodBot1> theverant: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <theverant> originally
[18:34] <HouseLegend> reisio, can you give me some tips or a quick guide ?
[18:34] <adzy> god this is difficult to read on  a 1440p monitor
[18:34] <arrun> guys ubuntu's plymouth (graphical one) doesn't show  in virtual box
[18:34] <reisio> HouseLegend: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound
[18:34] <arrun> how to make it work
[18:35] <Strit> Marble68: good question. I'd think it has it loadet, but you just haven't connected to anything yet. I mean, it shows the available wifi networks, right?
[18:35] <reisio> arrun: might need to modify kernel modules loaded
[18:35] <HouseLegend> reisio, thanks i will check that out
[18:35] <xtre_> can samba be used to share from one linux machine to another ?
[18:35] <Marble68> Strit: yes
[18:35] <adzy> question: i have auto login enabled on my main account. when i login to an rdp session (xrdp), it starts a new session. any idea how to get it to load up the existing one?
[18:35] <daftykins> xtre_: of course
[18:35] <xtre_> i am setting up ubuntu server as my main machine
[18:35] <bekks> xtre_: For sharing between linux hosts, better use NFS.
[18:35] <Marble68> I've removed the config from interfaces and I'm going to back out the wpa_suplicant configuration
[18:35] <xtre_> daftykins, great :)
[18:35] <reisio> adzy: use VNC instead, tigervnc
[18:35] <arrun> reisio: how to do that ?
[18:36] <arrun> reisio: what should I do for it?
[18:36] <xtre_> bekks, i have windows laptop so i need to use samba.
[18:36] <bekks> xtre_: No, you can still use NFS between the linux hosts.
[18:36] <reisio> arrun: I'd start by putting the output of lspci -n into the box at http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ and making sure all that it spits out is loaded
[18:36] <adzy> reisio, will i need to install anything on my windows machine to access it through vnc? i was hoping to stick to rdp if possible
[18:37] <reisio> adzy: yeah tigervnc's viewer
[18:37] <Strit> Marble68: Well, I'm stumped then. I'd say your drivers are installed, but it just can't connect.
[18:37] <reisio> adzy: sorry I'm not familiar with xrdp, but if it's possible to do simply, it'll be documented
[18:37] <xtre_> bekks, can i use samba and nfs side by side ? is that a good idea ?
[18:37] <adzy> reisio, okay, thanks, i'll give it a go
[18:37] <iliv> bekks xtre_ NFS may not be the best option. It really depends. I actually have NFS *AND* SAMBA installed and configured, but I've been increasingly relying on SAMBA lately on the home LAN. Both have their pros and cons.
[18:38] <reisio> adzy: maybe something like for i in $(dpkg -L xrdp); do egrep -Hi 'existing|current|display|server' "$i"; done
[18:38] <xtre_> iliv, ok :)
[18:38] <compdoc> adzy, are you sure auto login is the reason? I use x11rdp, and I get the same session each time as long as I dont log off. But I dont have  auto login set.
[18:38] <xtre_> i have heared that NFS is more cumbersome to configure and maintain. NFS 4 specifically.
[18:39] <arrun> guys ubuntu's plymouth (graphical one) doesn't show  in virtual box
[18:39] <iliv> xtre_
[18:39] <iliv> oops
[18:39] <bekks> xtre_: You can still use NFSv3
[18:39] <Marble68> Strit: Thanks for the help anyway - at least I'm further than were I was
[18:39] <adzy> reisio, you completely lost me there. is that to search through the documents?
[18:39] <xtre_> ok
[18:39] <Strit> Marble68. No problem. Not that much into Ubuntu yet myself. :)
[18:40] <adzy> compdoc, no idea. i'm assuming so, but i'm probably wrong. all i know is that if i connect a display directly to the ubuntu rig, i get one session, but when i login through xrdp i get a different one
[18:40] <arrun> guys ubuntu's plymouth (graphical one) doesn't show  in virtual box , how to make it run in vbox?
[18:40] <reisio> adzy: yup
[18:40] <iliv> xtre_ not entirely true, either. NFSv4 is configured pretty easily once you know the concepts and understand how software works. It's certainly not any more harder to configure than SAMBA is.
[18:40] <Strit> arrun: Why do you need it?
[18:41] <compdoc> adzy, oh, thats normal. What you want is desktop sharing, which is the only whaty I know to see the same desktop as the console
[18:41] <arrun> Strit: to test
[18:41] <compdoc> *way
[18:42] <xtre_> iliv, ok checking out documentation once again than..
[18:42] <Strit> arrun: As I understand Plymouth is just the splash screen. It's not there for more than a second at my end either (without vbox)
[18:42] <adzy> compdoc, and I'm going to guess using vnc is the way to do that then?
[18:42] <iliv> xtre_ you will probably have to install and configure both to make up your mind
[18:42] <iliv> xtre_: btw they can coexist just fine
[18:43] <compdoc> adzy, Ubuntu come with Vino for that purpose, and you connect with a vnc client to session 5900
[18:43] <iliv> xtre_: so, you could start with whatever seems more friendly/easier to do, and then when're you're all set up and comfortable discover and play with the other
[18:43] <xtre_> iliv, that's really a great idea :D
[18:43] <Lartza> How do I set my locale?
[18:44] <adzy> compdoc, thanks
[18:46] <tberk> r
[18:47] <iliv> xtre_: I recommend that you try out 'usershare' type of shares with SAMBA. They're extremely user-friendly, although proper instructions maybe a bit hard to find. Trust me on this one, though, you'll love them. Why? Normal users (UID>1000) can create and destroy new share without needing root access or restart of SAMBA service. With NFS you'll have to be able to re-export /etc/exports which usually translates to root level access (via sudo or directly root accou
[18:48] <arrun> guys ubuntu's plymouth (graphical one) doesn't show  in virtual box , how to make it run in vbox?
[18:48] <xtre_> iliv, seems interesting...
[18:50] <xtre_> iliv, ubuntu community as well as official documentation would be good source to start right ?
[18:51] <Pici> 70
[18:51] <casper__> hallo
[18:51] <casper__> bye
[18:51] <reisio> bye
[18:53] <iliv> xtre_: probably, I'm not exactly an Ubuntu person. I just happend to be here today lol
[18:53] <xtre_> iliv, then i was lucky to be here today :D
[18:53] <iliv> xtre_: who knows, maybe it is me :D
[18:54] <thecodethinker> I made a .desktop shortcut for gvim and set Terminal to true. As far as my understanding goes, it acts like vim was run from a terminal emulator... is there anyway for me to make it act like it was launched from a login shell instead of a normal one?
[18:54] <xtre_> iliv, generally where do you hang out ?
[18:54] <reisio> thecodethinker: instead of wha?
[18:54] <iliv> xtre_: #English #archlinux etc
[18:54] <blueopc> wich distro is better for gaming ubuntu or opensuse?
[18:54] <xtre_> iliv, cool :D
[18:54] <thecodethinker> reisio: instead of not login shell
[18:55] <iliv> xtre_: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/net.8.html find USERSHARE section
[18:56] <iliv> xtre_: and this in particular was very helpful http://www.swerdna.net.au/suseusershares.html
[18:56] <reisio> thecodethinker: not following :)
[18:56] <thecodethinker> reisio: do you know what a login shell is?
[18:56] <reisio> thecodethinker: mmhmmm
[18:56] <iliv> xtre_: it seems to have been taken down, here's the backup (thanks to the Internet Archive!) http://web.archive.org/web/20130409021149/http://swerdna.net.au/suseusershares.html
[18:56] <xtre_> iliv, this are really useful links...
[18:57] <thecodethinker> reisio: by chance, do you know what rvm is?
[18:57] <xtre_> 2 nd link is still opening..
[18:57] <arrun> guys ubuntu's plymouth (graphical one) doesn't show  in virtual box , how to make it run in vbox?
[18:57] <xtre_> iliv, :)
[18:57] <thecodethinker> reisio: I made a shortcut for gvim to put in that ubuntu sidebar.
[18:57] <reisio> thecodethinker: few things called rvm, I'm not familiar with any of them
[18:57] <reisio> thecodethinker: okay...
[18:58] <thecodethinker> reisio: I need it to run in a login shell though. When I run the shortcut... it runs through a normal shell
[18:58] <reisio> thecodethinker: what's the difference?
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> arrun, vbox has its own drivers basically.
[18:58] <thecodethinker> reisio: I'm using this thing rvm (ruby version manager) and it needs to run in a login shell
[18:58] <reisio> ah that one
[18:58] <agrester> Hello, running 12.04 LTS and often have errors and corrupted downloads/packages, this is affecting system stability, I ran memtest86+ once and it returned some memory errors, but I ran the test again and all sticks have passed the second time around.  What can I do to detect the memory errors and next what can I do to fix the corrupted software?
[18:59] <thecodethinker> agrester: run prime95
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> arrun, There is a #vbox channel id needed.
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> if*
[18:59] <iliv> agrester: run it again, seriously
[18:59] <reisio> thecodethinker: can you not just source the same things from your script/.desktop?
[18:59] <reisio> thecodethinker: or use su -, or sudo
[18:59] <agrester> thecodethinker, iliv, how do I run prime95?
[18:59] <thecodethinker> reisio: no no. it's not a permission issue. it's the way rvm works
[18:59] <reisio> what's the error?
[19:00] <stephenh> hello, is there any mirror that still host hardy for net install ?
[19:01] <thecodethinker> reisio: You need to change your terminal preferences to allow login shell. -_-
[19:01] <stephenh> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ and other mirrors i've looked at don't seem to have it
[19:01] <PocketDog> Listening to any Prince album recorded since 1991 without turning it off, bored, is the new Fruit Pastille challenge
[19:01] <reisio> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[19:01] <thecodethinker> reisio: I know I need login shell. I just don't know how to get a .desktop to run a program in a login shell
[19:01] <PocketDog> oops, wrong channel.
[19:01] <thecodethinker> PocketDog: lol
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> PocketDog, you are correct.
[19:02] <thecodethinker> reisio: I'll just write a script I guess :(
[19:02] <reisio> thecodethinker: maybe ask #rvm
[19:02] <stephenh> reisio: awesome, just came across that thanks ;)  does this mean i'm mounting the iso and hosting on my own webserver somewhere?
[19:02] <thecodethinker> reisio: it has nothing to do with rvm.... rvm is working
[19:02] <thecodethinker> I need to run a login shell from a .desktop file
[19:02] <kalib> Hello guys, I'm using ubuntu 13.04 with postgres 9.0. How can I upgrade my postgres to 9.2? IS there any link with steps? Or any tip?
[19:02] <reisio> thecodethinker: you mentioned it :p
[19:02] <reisio> thecodethinker: why?
[19:02] <thecodethinker> reisio: yeah to give context
[19:02] <reisio> context that is irrelevant to the point of #rvm being useless? :p
[19:03] <reisio> stephenh: hrmm?
[19:03] <thecodethinker> rvm doesn't help with .deskt- nvm... this channel is rarely hepful with anything beyond basics -_-
[19:03] <stephenh> reisio: i'm looking to do a netinstall if possible, rather than install from ISO
[19:04] <reisio> stephenh: right
[19:04] <reisio> stephenh: they call them minimal images now
[19:04] <reisio> stephenh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:04] <agrester> iliv - how many times should I run memtest86+ before I can 99% call the stick good?
[19:04] <reisio> minimal cd, even
[19:04] <stephenh> reisio: ah right, sorry.. terminology wrong i guess
[19:05] <stephenh> reisio: i want to install from a mirror, but old-releases just seems to have ISOs unless i'm being blind
[19:05] <reisio> stephenh: you need that old version for some reason?
[19:05] <stephenh> reisio: i'll mount the ISO on a webserver and update my preseed
[19:05] <stephenh> reisio: yea, bunch of in house packages are built for hardy, we're stretched for time
[19:06] <stephenh> it's easier to rebuild hardy boxes than to rebuild all the packages at this time
[19:06] <reisio> seems like maybe you let that go a little too long
[19:06] <stephenh> and then post migration revisit upgrading to precise
[19:06] <stephenh> indeed ..
[19:07] <stephenh> but, can't do anything about it now, so looking for a hardy mirror..
[19:07] <reisio> 'fraid I know nothing about that :) someone else will
[19:07] <stephenh> curious how recently it was removed as i'm sure a colleague was able to install hardy from a mirror recently
[19:07] <reisio> I only know where the install images are
[19:07] <reisio> mmm, well there are lots of mirrors
[19:07] <stephenh> not a train smash, been a super help !   at least i've got an iso - i can sort the rest :)
[19:07] <reisio> probably some are still going
[19:07] <reisio> as to how to find them :p
[19:07] <stephenh> well that's the trick.. tracking them down :P
[19:08] <iliv> agrester: so far it's not clear whether it is memory or not. I'd run at least 3 times, better five just to see some consistency. Also, faulty PSU can cause very weird behavior so don't rule it out as well. Borrow one from a friend and try it out for a day (if you cocnlude memory is OK).
[19:08] <reisio> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[19:08] <stephenh> ta
[19:09] <stephenh> found one!  thanks a lot :)
[19:10] <lovelymortal> hi everyone. im having a bit of trouble with conky. i want to display all of the data units in Mb etc intead of Mib
[19:10] <agrester> iliv, strange everything seems fine so far, but that first test I did with all the sticks at once returned errors...
[19:10] <iliv> agrester: usually, you don't need to wait until the test is over. if memory is faulty, it shows pretty fast (anything over 30 minutes is probably going to mean your memory is doing fine)
[19:11] <iliv> agrester: did you try to test memory bars one by one?
[19:11] <iliv> assuming you have more than one
[19:11] <imMute> so I ahve a 12.04 server with a couple users that log in via XDMCP.  yesterday, it seems the xdmcp server (lightdm?) stopped working - the screen loads, and the mouse moves but nothing can be clicked on.  top shows the X process under lightdm is at 100% CPU.  tried googling a cause/solution but havn't found anything yet.  anyone else notice this?
[19:12] <Strit> lovelymortal: actually it is, it's just another way of displaying MB's.
[19:13] <agrester> iliv, yes that's what I've been doing and the strange thing is that the first test I ever did involved all 4 sticks in at once and then I saw errors, the sticks seem good when tested by themselves
[19:13] <lovelymortal> 1024kib=1mib 1000kb=1mb
[19:13] <lovelymortal> ?
[19:13] <Strit> Ah. my mistake then
[19:13] <iliv> agrester: try them all at once one more time and see if it errors or not
[19:14] <lovelymortal> its fine i just want it to display mb instead
[19:14] <Strit> No idea how to do that. Want that myself. :)
[19:15] <lovelymortal> lets try to find a solution then
[19:15] <lovelymortal> http://conky.sourceforge.net/config_settings.html
[19:17] <lovelymortal> format_human_readable no     it will put it all in bits
[19:18] <lovelymortal> maybe its something to do with this tho
[19:19] <brundy> isodora
[19:19] <brundy> isadora
[19:19] <brundy> huma
[19:19] <lovelymortal> you can use
[19:19] <lovelymortal> short_units yes   to only get m,k,g,t,p,etc but its still mib not mb
[19:20] <brundy> #mint
[19:20] <brundy> quit
[19:20] <brundy> exit
[19:20] <Monday> i have ubuntu installed, can i install windows on dual boot?
[19:21] <brundy> hello première connection IRC, just help ? Thanks
[19:21] <cowbacon> Monday: yes
[19:21] <iliv> Monday: no, we do not give you our permission to do so
[19:21] <iliv> cowbacon: please, stop lying
[19:21] <BluesKaj> !dualboot | Monday
[19:22] <cowbacon> leave the channel iliv if you're just gonna be trolling
[19:22] <iliv> cowbacon: since when humor equals trolling?
[19:22] <BluesKaj> humour?
[19:22] <BluesKaj> what humour
[19:23] <iliv> BluesKaj: what? you can't see it when there's no smiley face on the line?
[19:23] <cowbacon> this is a support channel, by claiming that im lying when im answering a persons question is neither helpful, funny or wanted in this channel
[19:23] <Strit> lovelymortal, well, let me know if you find something. So far I'll just take the MiB version. :)
[19:23] <iliv> cowbacon
[19:23] <iliv> cowbacon: I mean.. *sigh*
[19:24] <iliv> cowbacon: and hey, I've been helpful, can't I mess around a bit now?
[19:24] <imMute> so I ahve a 12.04 server with a couple users that log in via XDMCP.  yesterday, it seems the xdmcp server (lightdm?) stopped working - the screen loads, and the mouse moves but nothing can be clicked on.  top shows the X process under lightdm is at 100% CPU.  tried googling a cause/solution but havn't found anything that fixes it yet.  Also tried GDM, which lets me in on the VT but XDMCP doesn't show anything (just stays that random ga
[19:24] <kalib> Hello guys, I'm using ubuntu 13.04 with postgres 9.0. How can I upgrade my postgres to 9.2? IS there any link with steps? Or any tip?
[19:25] <brundy> #ubuntu-fr
[19:25] <agrester> iliv, are there any alternative memory test suites?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> iliv, go mess around in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:26] <iliv> BluesKaj: I love you dude
[19:26] <iliv> cowbacon: you too!
[19:26] <Strit> kalib, This might help you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/186610/how-do-i-upgrade-to-postgres-9-2
[19:26] <morfeo_81> hi there!!! How can I play dvd on ubuntu 12.04...I have buy new video but I'm not able to see
[19:27] <BluesKaj> <--not a dude . iliv ...I'm old
[19:27] <imMute> interesting.  switched back to lightdm, and it stays frozen at the login screen - mouse moves but clicking does nothing.  if I then use the arrow keys to move the list up or down, it suddenly starts working
[19:27] <iliv> BluesKaj: I still love you old dude ;D
[19:27] <Inquisitive> anyone feel like playing help the noob?
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | Inquisitive
[19:28] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, ask your question and we'll try to help
[19:28] <morfeo_81> I have this error Playback failure:DVDRead could not read block 70.
[19:28] <kalib> Strit: thanks
[19:28] <Inquisitive> ok
[19:28] <Strit> kalib, np mate
[19:28] <Inquisitive> my audio is broke
[19:28] <Inquisitive> it started out just being just VLC but now it even affects my browser
[19:29] <Inquisitive> little bro said it could be something like my drivers
[19:29] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, is this a new install?
[19:29] <Inquisitive> no it's been lie 9 months now
[19:29] <Inquisitive> it was a "joke"
[19:30] <BluesKaj> have you updated / upgraded lately , Inquisitive ?
[19:30] <Inquisitive> I downloades Batman 1989 and that is when it started
[19:30] <theverant> thanks for your help Bekk.  The archive is alive again
[19:30] <BluesKaj> batman has nothing to do with it :)
[19:30] <theverant> 12TB of student films saved! :D
[19:31] <Inquisitive> well there is my update manager but I take care of it regularly
[19:31] <BluesKaj> ok , Inquisitive run aplay -l in the terminal and pastebin the output
[19:31] <morfeo_81> I have this error Playback failure:DVDRead could not read block 70.
[19:31] <theverant> thanks for your help Bekks.  The archive is alive again
[19:31] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | Inquisitive
[19:32] <Monday> BluesKaj so basically i have to make a partition in ubuntu then install windows on that partition, then to get grub i need to use a liveCD or something?
[19:32] <bekks> theverant: you're welcome :)
[19:32] <kalib> is there a way to search for a package on apt-get but filter only to installed packages?
[19:32] <kalib> for example..
[19:32] <imMute> double interesting: a recently added user has a space in his display name.  removing the space = hunky dory.
[19:32] <theverant> that was a harrowing couple of days
[19:32] <kalib> apt-cache gimp (but show me only gimp packages installed?
[19:32] <BluesKaj> Monday, basically , yes
[19:33] <Monday> i hate grub, i always have problems with it
[19:35] <Inquisitive> here is the pastebin url: http://pastebin.com/f6GpJbMs
[19:35] <BluesKaj> Monday, once on the live cd , run sudo os-prober , then sudo grub-install /dev/sdX , X being the windows  partition assigned letter , most likely sda
[19:35] <Inquisitive> did I do it right
[19:37] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, ok , in the terminal , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , if it loads properly there will be no out put from that command , you'll probly need to reboot to make it stick
[19:37] <morfeo_81> Hi!! I have buy sme dvd and are not enabled to play with ubuntu12.04 vlc. Ihave installed allpackege
[19:37] <morfeo_81> someone have ana udea how to resolve?
[19:37] <Strit> morfeo_81, including dvdlibread4?
[19:38] <bleutyler> where do I go for help with ubuntuforums.org?  my account seems to be disabled, and I am not able to use the "contact us" page
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> Monday, Many use the bootrepair app it has a auto generate of the bootinfo summary be sure to keep the generated url to post if you have troubles. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair  One can doo all this from a cli on alive cd, or use supergrub to boot in and do the grub bootloader reload from the desktop.
[19:38] <morfeo_81> Strit, Ihave just included
[19:38] <BluesKaj> Monday,, another alternative is grub-repair
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> bleutyler, Try the #ubuntu-forums channel
[19:38] <Strit> morfeo_81, and restricted-extras?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> !grub-repair | Monday
[19:38] <bleutyler> wilee-nilee thank you
[19:39] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:39] <brundy> bsr, channel en français please ?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> !info grub-repair
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> bleutyler, No problem they can direct you generally
[19:39] <BluesKaj> brundy, /join #ubuntu-fr
[19:39] <Inquisitive> BluesKaj just did it so now shut down and restart?
[19:40] <BluesKaj> just reboot , Inquisitive
[19:40] <lorddune> hi, can someone please help me with a "missing final newline" error while trying to do updates?
[19:40] <brundy> merci, bye
[19:40] <morfeo_81> Strit, I did: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6089496/
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> BluesKaj, There is a bot thankg I never remember it for the bot repair its in the grub info though
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> thang*
[19:40] <Inquisitive> ok i'll be back
[19:41] <Strit> morfeo_81, try the restricted-extras aswell. That worked for me.
[19:41] <lorddune> hi, can someone please help me with a "missing final newline" error while trying to do updates? I have tried every method I found online but cannot seem to make the problem go away.
[19:41] <BluesKaj> Monday, sorry it's called boot-repair doh!
[19:41] <BluesKaj> !boot-repair
[19:42] <BluesKaj> sheesh
[19:42] <BluesKaj> what's happened to the factoids
[19:42] <morfeo_81> Strit, sudo apt-get install restricted-extras
[19:42] <morfeo_81> Strit, ?
[19:42] <iliv> alrighty, signig off
[19:42] <iliv> have fun guys
[19:42] <iliv> BluesKaj: and cowbacon especially you two :P
[19:42] <iliv> peace out
[19:43] <morfeo_81> Strit, It is the new one.. any other idea
[19:44] <Strit> morfeo_81, No idea why it won't play DVD's then. Sorry
[19:45] <agrester> iliv, codethink, I need an alternative tester because it's passing every single time, even with all the dimms in, it only gave a negative result once...
[19:45] <Inquisitive> I'm back
[19:45] <Inquisitive> watching the new Riddick
[19:46] <morfeo_81> Someone else have any idea ..how to resolve?
[19:46] <Inquisitive> So what was the CMD I just entered and where should I start learning all of the sudo and terminal commands...
[19:48] <BluesKaj> !terminal
[19:48] <BluesKaj> !console
[19:48] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, you loaded the kernel driver for your soundcard , witht hat command
[19:49] <Inquisitive> Oh driver so my little bro was right 5 min no glitches so far so thank you
[19:50] <BluesKaj> sometimes after updates to the system , especially media , the drivers are disabled to let the  updates/upgrades install properly, Inquisitive
[19:51] <BluesKaj> not after but during , rather
[19:51] <Inquisitive> so I have to tell them to turn back on...
[19:51] <BluesKaj> yes , sometimes :)
[19:51] <Inquisitive> well this time it was a bug hidden a torrent file
[19:52] <lorddune> hi, can someone please help me with a "missing final newline" error while trying to do updates? I have tried every method I found online but cannot seem to make the problem go away.
[19:52] <Inquisitive> there was a comment that was bitching about the same problem I was having they called him a noob because it took him over 24 hours to fix
[19:53] <BluesKaj> no , if you've been doing updates regularly with the update manager , which is the same as doing them in the terminal then the drivers cab become disabled
[19:54] <Inquisitive> so It is not going to upset people if I come here with easy to answer Ubuntu questions
[19:54] <Inquisitive> and my linux using friends recommend switching to Kali is it good or better than mu Ubuntu
[19:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Inquisitive: I doubt we'll yell at you, ask up! :)
[19:55] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive in a word , yes , even difficult question
[19:55] <Inquisitive> they said it is not that hard to back up or even carry over my data with a new OS install since they are both linux
[19:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Inquisitive: Just ask your question and we'll help. This isn't the mafia.
[19:56] <Inquisitive> well before I changed my nick I did irritate some with non Ubuntu specific questions
[19:56] <bones> hello
[19:56] <bones> can some one help me
[19:57] <blazemore> !ask
[19:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Inquisitive: Correct. Those are offtopic, we use #ubuntu-offtopic for them.
[19:57] <LarsN> Inquisitive: most of the Ubuntu community has pledged NOT to be jerks. (simplified) http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct
[19:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Inquisitive: And for guessing who'll win the next football game.
[19:57] <Inquisitive> like hey thats not what this forum is for and 1337 speaking experts are kinda intimidating
[19:57] <garheade> clear
[19:57] <garheade> oops... sorry
[19:57] <bones> how you make netflix work
[19:57] <bones> anyone
[19:58] <auronandace> !netflix | bones
[19:58] <LarsN> Inquisitive: also, regarding Kali linux vs Ubuntu.  they are both linux.  they are both based on Debian.  However they are designed to fill very very different roles.
[19:58] <blazemore> Inquisitive: Let's talk about Kali, Ubuntu etc in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:58] <LarsN> Inquisitive: Kali is something I use as a tool while at work performing certain tasks.  Ubuntu is what I use to do 99.95% of my day to day computing and work.
[19:58] <lorddune> hi, can someone please help me with a "missing final newline" error while trying to do updates? I have tried every method I found online but cannot seem to make the problem go away.
[19:59] <blazemore> lorddune: Can you please put the full exact error message, and the command you ran to produce it, on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:59] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: I assume this is while running [ sudo apt-get update ]? (Follow blazemore's instructions)
[20:00] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: Yes, and I have tried to install using synaptic, update manager, and the old school terminal methods. All fail.
[20:00] <micah_chatt> I"m running 12.04 on an EC2 machine, kernel 3.2, and when I apt-get install linux-image-3.8.0-30-generic linux-headers-3.8.0-30-generic and reboot.... my kernel version is still at 3.2, any ideas?
[20:00] <Inquisitive> So any recommendations on self teaching myself the in's and outs of terminal and the sudo and other commands plz do not say check out youtube
[20:01] <SonikkuAmerica> !pastebin | lorddune: So go ahead and pastebin the output of [ sudo apt-get update ]
[20:01] <auronandace> !terminal | Inquisitive
[20:01] <kostkon> bones, also there is pipelight http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[20:01] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I've tried every method other than deleting the corrupt files themself and reinstalling them. Am looking for someone to help me through that process.
[20:01] <LarsN> micah_chatt: does the grub bootloader display the new 3.8 kernel in addition to the 3.2 kernel?
[20:02] <LarsN> micah_chatt: it could be as simple as changing which kernel grub boots by default.
[20:03] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: We won't know what the issue is until you follow my instructions above. Run [ sudo apt-get update ], select what displays, then hit Ctrl+Shift+C and paste it into the text window at http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:03] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: no need to paste the entire thing, it's always the same error: (Reading database ... 45%dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:  files list file for package 'compiz-plugins' is missing final newline E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[20:03] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: OK.
[20:03] <SonikkuAmerica> One second.
[20:03] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:03] <micah_chatt> LarsN where might I find that? I'll pastebin part of my syslog
[20:03] <Inquisitive> well for all intents and purposes it seems to have worked so thanks guys
[20:04] <agrester> Question:  If I a power supply PSU is underpowered for the total wattage of the machine it's in could this cause hardware issues like errors and memory errors?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, there is one more thing
[20:04] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Any additional information directly above the "E:" line that would be helpful?
[20:04] <Inquisitive> yeah
[20:04] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I don't get the error message until it actually tries to install. Fetching the files isn't the problem.
[20:04] <micah_chatt> LarsN: http://pastebin.com/EX1ycfwX
[20:05] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: What does [ sudo dpkg --configure -a ] do for you?
[20:05] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: nothing at all
[20:05] <Inquisitive> fuck it just died again but it went longer than usual [Expletive Deleted]
[20:05] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: -f doesnt do anything either
[20:05] <IdleOne> no it wasn't and please don't curse in here
[20:06] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: OK, one moment
[20:06] <Inquisitive> my head phones will still work it just kills the speakers for EVERYTHING
[20:06] <LarsN> micah_chatt: do you see the 3.8 kernel and bits in /boot ?
[20:07] <Inquisitive> the comments on TPB made it seem like it would be a simple fix
[20:07] <micah_chatt> LarsN: yes http://pastebin.com/wyKnFFaQ
[20:07] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, alt+F2 , then , gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , then copy and paste this line to the bottom of the file , options snd-hda-intel index=0 ,   and save the file .
[20:07] <Inquisitive> and I saved that page
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Try running the commands in succession: [ cd /var/lib/dpkg/info ], [ mv -f compiz-plugins* /tmp/ ], [ dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/compiz-plugins*.deb ]
[20:08] <LarsN> micah_chatt: chances are you will need to change /etc/defaults/grub (specifically the GRUB_DEFAULT= ) line but I don't know how to quickly determine which one you want.
[20:08] <Inquisitive> gksudo?
[20:08] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I even tried to use the script I found at this bug report http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1319791
[20:08] <BluesKaj> yup , it still works
[20:08] <LarsN> micah_chatt: I "THINK" you are going to want to replace 0 with 1 or 2 in /etc/defaults/grub.
[20:08] <micah_chatt> LarsN: hmm no file at /etc/defaults/grub
[20:09] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: In the 3rd command, substitute compiz-plugins with the file you're actually trying to install.
[20:09] <LarsN> micah_chatt: this is what I get for being on 13.04.  it's not the same. :/
[20:09] <LarsN> micah_chatt: hmmm...
[20:09] <micah_chatt> ahh etc/default
[20:09] <micah_chatt> not defaults
[20:09] <LarsN> my bad.
[20:09] <BluesKaj> Inquisitive, gksudo is used when opening a gui with permissions
[20:09] <LarsN> chalk it up to LarsN is almost completely stupid.
[20:10] <Inquisitive> so enter the cmd not in terminal but with alt f2
[20:10] <BluesKaj> yes Inquisitive that's called the run command
[20:10] <micah_chatt> Larsn: not at all, you've gotten me in at least the right direction
[20:11] <BluesKaj> you can also cll it with a right click on the desktop and dialog will give the option there
[20:11] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6089622/
[20:11] <micah_chatt> Larsn: in my  /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:11] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I've no idea what file I am trying to replace.
[20:11] <LarsN> micah_chatt: I'm not certain, but I believe with grub2 large parts of those files are dynamically generated.
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: What are you trying to install?
[20:12] <LarsN> which is to say when you update, or replace a kernel, manual changes are likely to be overwritten.  hence the /etc/default/grub config.
[20:12] <LarsN> micah_chatt: but again I'm not entirely sure.
[20:12] <micah_chatt> LarsN: that makes sense, my grub is at 1.99
[20:13] <kostkon> lorddune, apt-cache policy compiz-plugins-main
[20:13] <LarsN> micah_chatt: iirc, that's considered grub2
[20:13] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: i don't know, i ran the programs you told me to.
[20:13] <micah_chatt> Ah thanks
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Oh, right, we're trying to apt-get update. Wow. Swing and a miss, strike 1.
[20:13] <micah_chatt> LarsN: but in that dynamically configured file, I do see 3.8 and 3.2 below it
[20:14] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Run [ sudo apt-get clean && cd /var/lib/apt && sudo mv lists lists.old && sudo mkdir -p lists/partial && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update ]
[20:14] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: yeah, I would delete the corrupted file myself but I cannot figure out how to do that
[20:15] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I've run all those previuously actually
[20:15] <LarsN> micah_chatt: what's the GRUB_DEFAULT= in /etc/default/grub?
[20:15] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: but running again for kicks & giggles
[20:15] <micah_chatt> LarsN: its 0
[20:16] <LarsN> micah_chatt: hmmm.  if the 3.8 kernel is first in the list it should be booting then.
[20:16] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: hmm it's still running.......a light at the end of the tunnel perhaps
[20:16] <LarsN> if it's second in the list, change the default to 1.
[20:16] <LarsN> and so on.
[20:16] <Aque0s> Hello, can I use $PATH in /etc/environment?
[20:16] <pedromartin> ·ola
[20:16] <micah_chatt> hmm, 3.8 is first
[20:16] <micah_chatt> but i'll try changin that to 1 and see what happens
[20:16] <Aque0s> I'd like to do something like this: $ echo 'PATH=$PATH:/home/meteor/.nvm/v0.8.24/bin' >> /etc/environment
[20:17] <tutak> if i need to install software for 11.10 and i have a choice between 10.04 and 12.04 which one should i choose?
[20:17] <tutak> would they work?
[20:17] <tutak> software meant for 10.04 or 12.04
[20:17] <Luyin> tutak: use 12.04, it's up to date and longer supported.
[20:18] <SonikkuAmerica> tutak: You'll need 12.04 LTS now, unless you're running a server (and why you use 10.04 on a server these days anyway?)
[20:18] <tutak> Luyin, i have 11.10. i need to install some software which is only available for 11.04 and 12.04 versions would they work on my machine?
[20:19] <LarsN> SonikkuAmerica: I'm not defending running old software, but there are many examples of why someone might still be running older versions.
[20:19] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: to give you a bit of background, i've had real bad problems with I/O so had only been doing updates manually
[20:20] <LarsN> top of mind would be older versions of large, complex, packages that aren't easily updated without downtime for $Lots of customers.
[20:20] <tutak> I know i need to upgrade, but am kinda at the wrong place and wrong time for having to start the whole process and take care of any bugs i might encounter
[20:21] <SonikkuAmerica> LarsN: True enough (10.04 server is still supported) but security issues are the main concern.
[20:21] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: OK it finally finished, now what?
[20:21] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: No errors?
[20:22] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: If not, run [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ], run Synaptic and upgrade, or run the Update Manager again.
[20:23] <tutak> let me rephrase, can software designed for 11.04 or 12.04 be used on 11.10?
[20:23] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:23] <ThePendulum> Who helped me with the school network wifi problem earlier?
[20:24] <Benkinooby> tutak: depends. some programs require specififc versions of other programs to work
[20:24] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Do you know which ones? (Can you pastebin the [ sudo apt-get update ] output again?)
[20:24] <Benkinooby> tutak: but since the versions you mentioned are similar, your chances are good
[20:25] <SonikkuAmerica> ThePendulum: Can't say, but what's up?
[20:25] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6089682/
[20:25] <tutak> Benkinooby, i need to install mysql server's benchwork and they are available in only these two flavours :( which one would be a better choice? 12.04 or 10.04?
[20:25] <tutak> workbench sorry :D
[20:26] <Fudus> whichever version you are on?
[20:26] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: What flavor and release is this again?
[20:26] <Benkinooby> tutak: hm - i have no real experience with that. but better go with the one for 11.04
[20:26] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: Well, simply said, my laptop, when running Ubuntu, can't connect to the WAPs at our school. Windows? No issue. Home WAP? No issues.
[20:27] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: It keeps asking me for authentication
[20:27] <SonikkuAmerica> I've heard of this... What encryption does it use?
[20:27] <Benkinooby> tutak: well - i get several hits on google your questionn
[20:27] <tutak> ok.. thanks
[20:27] <ThePendulum> Someone send me a script while I was on the laptop in an SSH session
[20:27] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: 12.04 LTS, but I am ready to do a clean install soon. I've had I/O issues ever since I updated to 12.04 from 11
[20:28] <Benkinooby> tutak: seems like others had the same question - read what they are writing. let me skim through it for a secx
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: I would recommend a reinstall of 12.04 at this point; things can get messy.
[20:28] <Benkinooby> *sex
[20:28] <Benkinooby> *sec
[20:28] <Benkinooby> argh
[20:28] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I am doing as instructed by the command output and running apt-get -f install, it's still running
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Unless you want to work to repair the current install.
[20:28] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: Ubuntu 12.04 btw
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Good.
[20:28] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: (Ubuntu 13.04 having the same issue)
[20:29] <SonikkuAmerica> ThePendulum: You never answered my question: What encryption (WEP, WPA/WPA2) is the network using?
[20:29] <Fudus> ThePendulum: sounds like licensing fun with encrypted drivers
[20:29] <Benkinooby> tutak: did you check if workbench is in your repos?
[20:29] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: Oh, I completely missed that question
[20:29] <Benkinooby> !mysql-workbench
[20:29] <tutak> yes
[20:30] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: I think WPA/WPA2, let me check if my laptop remembered it
[20:30] <tutak> lemme recheck
[20:30] <Fudus> some default firmware has encrypted wireless disabled because of patents/licensing blah, so you need to go to the hardware provider's site and compile it yourself with it enabled
[20:30] <ThePendulum> :/
[20:30] <Benkinooby> tutak: hm, maybe it got introduced with 12.X
[20:30] <ThePendulum> Fudus: I have no idea what the hardware is :/
[20:31] <Fudus> apple and microsoft pay up for you which is why it is enabled, same with avc/dvd playback
[20:31] <Benkinooby> tutak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MySqlWorkBench
[20:31] <jamiejackson> hi folks. i'm trying to move /usr to another partition. i went into a livecd, copied files from /usr to the partition (cp -rv), changed fstab, rebooted. now i get the following when trying to sudo: "sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root?"
[20:31] <Fudus> (and why canonical doesn't have it enabled by default in ubuntu)
[20:31] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: WPA & WPA2 Enterprise
[20:32] <Benkinooby> tutak: take care - there seems to be a bug!
[20:32] <SonikkuAmerica> ThePendulum: And you know the login and password?
[20:32] <jamiejackson> is there a simple fix? is this even possible to move /usr?
[20:32] <Benkinooby> http://mysqlworkbench.org/2011/10/mysql-workbench-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[20:32] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: Well, yes, it works on Windows
[20:32] <Ben64> jamestunnicliffe: you didn't keep all the permissions on the files
[20:32] <SonikkuAmerica> ThePendulum: You do have the latest version of wpa-supplicant?
[20:33] <SonikkuAmerica> !info wpa-supplicant
[20:33] <Benkinooby> tutak: on that site they show you also the patch for the bug - in case you encounter it
[20:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Or whatever it's called
[20:33] <jamiejackson> Ben64: i think you meant me. what's the best way to keep the permissions?
[20:33] <Fudus> forgot the command to see the brand of 802.11 card
[20:33] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: In doesn't work in either U12.04 or 13.04, and I assume 13.04 has the latest version?
[20:33] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: My home network also has WPA & WPA2 (Personal)
[20:33] <SonikkuAmerica> ThePendulum: Well I got pwned - it doesn't exist anymore... one second
[20:34] <jamiejackson> wait, sorry, i did use "cp -rv cp -rv --preserve=all", Benkinooby
[20:34] <Benkinooby> tutak: you can also go for the PPA
[20:34] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: Not sure what it did, going to run Update Manager first and see what happens next.
[20:34] <jamiejackson> (ignore one of those "cp -rv")
[20:34] <tutak> Benkinooby, great find! i'm on it... thanks
[20:34] <Fudus> lspci|grep "Network controller:"
[20:34] <lmat> I created a user that uses the rssh shell. I turned on scp and sftp. He's using cyber duck and can see all the files on the system. What should I do to ensure that he can only see the correct files ?
[20:34] <Benkinooby> tutak: may the google-foo be with you ;) http://askubuntu.com/questions/45115/how-to-install-mysql-workbench
[20:34] <Fudus> one will be the 802.11 and the other ethernet
[20:35] <Benkinooby> tutak: but also be a bit careful - PPAs can be a pain in the a** to remove
[20:35] <SonikkuAmerica> ThePendulum: Realtek chip by any chance?
[20:35] <Ben64> jamiejackson: well check permissions on /usr/bin/sudo on both locations
[20:35] <wizard_A> how do i enable intranet settings for my /opt/lampp, so that local network nodes can access my webpages.
[20:35] <lmat> For instance, there are files that I own that are   rw------- that he is seeing.
[20:35] <SonikkuAmerica> !ppa-purge | Benkinooby , tutak
[20:35] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: Well, COULD be, but it also could not be. Is there a way to check?
[20:35] <tutak> ok :D
[20:35] <Benkinooby> tutak: there is a package or PPAs, don't know anymore, that is made to make removal of PPAs easier
[20:35] <Benkinooby> tutak: oh, SonikkuAmerica got it ;)
[20:36] <Fudus> ThePendulum: lspci|grep "Network controller:" what brand is it?
[20:36] <jamiejackson> Ben64: both yeild the same: "-rwsr-xr-x 2 root root"
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> can i scan a network without being on it?
[20:36] <SonikkuAmerica> ThePendulum: [ sudo lshw -C ]
[20:36] <Benkinooby> tutak: if your system is important and you don't want to mess with it - use a virtual machine
[20:36] <Benkinooby> for testing
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> like for example: to find out how many machines are on a network
[20:36] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I was having problems with constant journaling and wrote a small script to stop from doing that nonstop. Was 6 months ago. Any way that could have caused my problems?
[20:36] <SonikkuAmerica> ThePendulum: Fudus has it
[20:37] <Ben64> jamiejackson: then i'm not sure what the problem would be
[20:37] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: That's what ext4 does, journal. :) I would doubt it.
[20:37] <ThePendulum> Fudus, SonikkuAmerica: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 135 (rev c4)
[20:37] <tutak> it is all good for experimenting :D
[20:38] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: it got to the point where md checksum was going so out of control it was almost frying my boards the journaling was so incessant.
[20:38] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Wow.
[20:38] <jamiejackson> Ben64: this might be a dumb question, but the livecd root user that i copied with. is it possible that it's a *different* root than on my real system, or that the sticky bit is associated with the livecd root, or some junk like that? (I'm just making this up.)
[20:38] <Benkinooby> tutak: well then, ... good luck!
[20:38] <tutak> thanks
[20:38] <Ben64> jamiejackson: nah, root is always uid 0
[20:39] <jamiejackson> arg, oh well, thanks Ben64
[20:39] <pinkman_> How can I open udev.conf located in /etc/udev as root to edit de file?
[20:39] <Ben64> jamiejackson: but if i were you, i'd use rsync to copy it
[20:39] <pinkman_> I tried trought terminal but it didn't work
[20:40] <jamiejackson> Ben64: that was the first way i tried it. :-/
[20:40] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: I saw many other instances of the same problem online, but never found a true solution to the problem. It seems maybe the cause was possibly a chipset conflict with the Linux kernal software
[20:40] <iirelu2> so today has been "mess ubuntu up" day apparently: first i tried to install nvidia 325.xx drivers and messed up xorg, then i managed to fix that but then i was left with a completely messed up unity. at first unity itself with the dash etc was missing, and then once i fixed that everything else sort of fell apart
[20:40] <Fudus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/969343 looks like known bug?
[20:40] <ThePendulum> SonikkuAmerica: Does that information mean anything to you?
[20:41] <iirelu2> on my main account, none of the windows have borders and many things arent working at all, but on other accounts its completely fine
[20:41] <SonikkuAmerica> ThePendulum: I can't say... never had to troubleshoot a Centrino WiFi card
[20:41] <Fudus> and ubottu proves the bug is still alive :P
[20:41] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: You might try 13.04 (or 13.10 next month) as well, if you don't mind the six-month release upgrading
[20:41] <iirelu2> ive tried searching around askubuntu and everything else for half an hour, nothing
[20:41] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: this is one of those goofy HP machines that forces the hardrive to comply with the hardrive they try to sell you for a fortune. I ended up migrating to Linux when that happened I was so ticked off.
[20:41] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Then stick with 14.04
[20:42] <jamiejackson> Ben64: would "sudo rsync -aXS" be correct?
[20:42] <Fudus> ThePendulum:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/969343/comments/21 might help
[20:42] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Blah. Sounds like fun.
[20:42] <lorddune> i'm not afraid to try something new, i like fiddling around with Linux
[20:43] <micah_chatt> LarsN: retried with GRUB_DEFAULT=1 and still no dice
[20:43] <micah_chatt> LarsN: I should just rebuild my AMI with the 3.8 kernel
[20:43] <micah_chatt> it would be less work
[20:43] <Ben64> jamiejackson: should work
[20:43] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: yeah, it was fun as heck, but frustrating. HP uses some sort of proprietery software on their root to reinstall the OS after a hardrive failure. They want you to buy the HD from them for like 800 dollars
[20:44] <pinkman_> how do I open /etc/udev/udev.conf as root in terminal to edit the file in gedit?
[20:44] <ThePendulum> Fudus: I'll try that, thanks
[20:44] <Ben64> pinkman_: gksudo gedit /etc/udev/udev.conf
[20:44] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: Sounds like hell on earth. HP is becoming the new Dell anyways. But give 13.04 a try: ubottu.com/y/dl
[20:44] <jamesd_> any python developers around, i'm looking for a link to get snmp working with the modules that are being shipped with ubuntu
[20:45] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: if you don't buy their hardrive, they have a piece of software that supposedly stamps the HD you want to use with their root software. But the only thing true about that piece of software was that it was a piece.
[20:45] <upd> jamesd_ try #python ?
[20:45] <jamesd_> upd: i am there... but since its related to software the distro is shipping they love sending me to the distros channel
[20:46] <pinkman_> Ben64: thanks it work... what does this gksudo means?
[20:46] <SonikkuAmerica> lorddune: We're getting a little !ot here. I need to switch to Windows, hang on.
[20:46] <knnniggett> #zoneminder
[20:46] <upd> jamesd_ then tell what your problem is
[20:46] <Ben64> !gksudo | pinkman_
[20:46] <lorddune> SonikkuAmerica: yeah this is a dell/HP machine, it's not that old. I got it for next to nothing (125 bucks) for a real fast machine and upgraded it myself.
[20:47] <MKCoin> How can I restart the unity bar on the side? It's lagging for me.
[20:47] <micah_chatt> LarsN: if you're interested, I think it's because my ubuntu dist doesn't have a linux-image-3.8.0-*-virtual , just generic
[20:47] <jamesd_> upd: every example i find on the web for using python modules fail, and all the comments say upgrade to the latest version of the modules, but that is a lot of work if i just want to fetch a snmp value for a web page.
[20:48] <lorddune> good old MicroCenter, I love that store.
[20:48] <pinkman_> Ben64 Thanks brow
[20:48] <Fudus> ThePendulum: that ppa is only for 12.04 though, it apparently was implemented in 12.10 already
[20:48] <upd> MKCoin, try killall unity-2d-launcher
[20:51] <upd> jamesd_ can you give some log how it failes
[20:51] <ThePendulum> Fudus: I happen to be running 12.04. I don't think it will work, then.
[20:51] <ThePendulum> Fudus: (as I encountered the same issue run a 13.04 LiveUSB)
[20:51] <jamesd_>  from pysnmp.carrier.twisted import dispatch
[20:51] <jamesd_> Traceback (most recent call last):
[20:51] <jamesd_>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
[20:51] <jamesd_> ImportError: No module named twisted
[20:51] <jamesd_>  from pysnmp.carrier.twisted import dispatch
[20:51] <FloodBot1> jamesd_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:51] <jamesd_> Traceback (most recent call last):
[20:52] <upd> ...
[20:52] <Fudus> 5 lines is a flood?
[20:52] <Ben64> yes
[20:52] <Fudus> FloodBot1 the overly sensitive
[20:52] <Ben64> no, this channel has 1763 people, use a pastebin if its more than one line
[20:54] <Fudus> ThePendulum: if you're using 12.04 it is worth a try anyhow
[20:54] <Fudus> at worse you'll just remove the ppa
[20:54] <LinuxGold> something just tried to hack into my system
[20:54] <LinuxGold> blocked that IP
[20:54] <Basil1x> Grrr... su isn't working.  says password not recognised.
[20:54] <Fudus> (sudo)
[20:54] <Ben64> !sudo | Basil1x
[20:54] <LinuxGold> 42.96.198.214
[20:55] <Ben64> LinuxGold: is this relevant to ubuntu support somehow?
[20:55] <upd> LinuxGold, dont post ip
[20:55] <LinuxGold> helping with security?
[20:55] <Ben64> LinuxGold: not really
[20:55] <LinuxGold> ok, I'll be unhelpful then.
[20:56] <LinuxGold> strictly restricted to ubuntu only
[20:56] <ThePendulum> But being unhelpful is helpful in this particular case.
[20:56] <Ben64> i dont see how posting a random ip that was "trying to hack you" is helping anyone
[20:56] <upd> true.
[20:56] <LinuxGold> never mind everyone.
[20:56] <ThePendulum> Ben64: You don't see how, or you don't find it helpful?
[20:56] <LinuxGold> drop it then.
[20:57] <Basil1x> That's sudo, not su.
[20:57] <Ben64> !root | Basil1x
[20:58] <Fudus> root user was disabled in ubuntu, you can get around it with sudo bash
[20:58] <Ben64> do not do 'sudo bash'
[20:58] <Basil1x> So, no persistent root access.
[20:58] <Ben64> sudo -i
[20:58] <Ben64> if you really need it
[20:58] <ThePendulum> What does sudo su doe?
[20:58] <ThePendulum> do*?
[20:59] <Ben64> ThePendulum: thats bad, don't do that either
[20:59] <Basil1x> Make temporary permanent access?
[20:59] <Ben64> i've already given you the answer... 'sudo -i' if you need a root shell for whatever reason (although theres almost no circumstance where its necessary)
[20:59] <Fudus> last i remember unity/gnome dies if you log in as root if you enable the account
[21:00] <principe> hola
[21:00] <Fudus> no launcher appears on root log in. i mean
[21:01] <Basil1x> Got it.  This is not like my Sabayon machine.  Thanks.
[21:02] <Fudus> oh, you can log in as root in unity now, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/login-as-root-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[21:02] <Ben64> don't do any of that ^
[21:02] <bekks> Fudus: You should never do that.
[21:02] <Fudus> but it is possible :P
[21:02] <Ben64> Fudus: please don't post or suggest that in here
[21:02] <bekks> It always was.
[21:08] <LinuxGold> sorry if I freaked out here .. I shouldn't have done that
[21:16] <agrester> Finally I got a negative result for my ram test via mprime, does that mean the RAM is no good?
[21:16] <Benkinooby> agrester: how long did you run the ramtest?
[21:17] <agrester> Bekinooby, for like a few seconds
[21:17] <Benkinooby> agrester: then i'd get rid of it
[21:17] <Benkinooby> agrester: usually you run ramtest several hours
[21:17] <agrester> Bekinooby, memtest86+ passed, but mprime failed immediately
[21:18] <upd> agrester, before that i would put it our, check for dust and clean ram and motherboard, and also test another slot in motherboard if you have any
[21:18] <Benkinooby> agrester: just wanted to ask for the results with memtest
[21:19] <agrester> upd, I checked that and cleaned it, also heat isn't an issue
[21:19] <Benkinooby> agrester: how long did memtest86 run?
[21:19] <agrester> Bekinooby, for a few hours
[21:21] <Benkinooby> agrester: hm... why are you doing the mem-tests? just for fun or do you have a problem you want to solve?
[21:21] <Benkinooby> like weired behaviour
[21:22] <agrester> Bekinnooby, having strange issues, packages get corrupted all the time, I get random errors and files always get messed up
[21:22] <Benkinooby> agrester: maybe the hard drive then?
[21:23] <agrester> Benkinooby, I checked it multiple times with FSCK and Smart and it's not the issue
[21:24] <Benkinooby> agrester: hm, do you have spare RAM? best thing you can do is to exchange it and see hwo things will go on. i find it quite interesting, that memtest86+ and mprime bring different results
[21:24] <agrester> Benkinooby, yes I do too, ordered a whole new 4GB of ram and will test that out
[21:25] <Benkinooby> agrester: take care of ESD
[21:25] <Benkinooby> agrester: electro static discharge
[21:25] <tekk> hey guys, trying to install ubuntu... tried live install and normal install... different hard drives.. always hangs near the very end, when doing packages... on Fetching 26/26 packages... any tips?
[21:26] <agrester> Benkinooby, I'm always careful of that, I always touch multiple metal items prior to doing anything
[21:26] <cartusia> how can I change the permissions of a directory
[21:26] <cartusia> I am trying to put read and write
[21:27] <cartusia> so for example the directory is named /dinosaur
[21:27] <cartusia> in the terminal do I type chmod 110 /dinosaur
[21:27] <cartusia> ?
[21:27] <upd> !chown
[21:27] <upd> !chmod
[21:28] <Benkinooby> agrester: well, they have to be grounded too - but i think you know. so best thing is to see if things get better with the new RAM
[21:28] <phantomcircuit> hmm
[21:28] <phantomcircuit> i have a GT60 from MSI (laptop)  which uses the nvidia optimus graphics stuff
[21:28] <agrester> Benkinooby, seems like all of the RAM I currently have is corrupted
[21:29] <Benkinooby> agrester: how do you come to that conclusion?
[21:29] <phantomcircuit> if boot mode is set to UEFI i get the boot menu screen but when selecting "Try Ubuntu" the screen just goes black
[21:29] <phantomcircuit> (the backlight is on)
[21:29] <phantomcircuit> booting in LEGACY mode i dont even get to the boot options menu
[21:29] <agrester> Benkinooby, because the tests are so inconsistent
[21:30] <Fudus> modify command line to acpi_os=Linux
[21:30] <Benkinooby> phantomcircuit: oooohhhh - optimus is pain, from what i heard :( - try alternate install
[21:30] <phantomcircuit> fastboot and secure boot are disabled
[21:30] <Fudus> or Windows
[21:30] <phantomcircuit> Fudus, are you talking to me?
[21:30] <phantomcircuit> Benkinooby, i'll give it a shot
[21:31] <Fudus> acpi_osi=Linux or =Windows, how i fixed backlight issues last time i had problems
[21:31] <Benkinooby> phantomcircuit: i know that people get it to work though - but i don't know how well it will work. i just saw some people haveing trouble with optimus in recent time
[21:31] <Fudus> or unplug the cable before trying :P
[21:31] <agrester> Benkinooby, seems like one of the sticks was clearly bad based on MPRIME
[21:32] <Benkinooby> agrester: do you also have an other OS on that computer - do you observe the same trouble?
[21:32] <Benkinooby> agrester: also if you think ALL your ram is corrupted. how many different RAM sticks did you try?
[21:33] <agrester> Benkinooby, previously Vista a long time ago, that too had issues on that system and so did Windows XP, so I guess I can trace it all back to bad RAM
[21:33] <betakiller> What is the most efficient protocol to use for connecting Ubuntua nd Mac OS X?
[21:33] <Fudus> agrester: you said it passed memtest though?
[21:33] <agrester> Benkinooby: I tried all four, two 1GB and the other 2 512MB
[21:34] <Benkinooby> agrester: ok, if other OS had the same trouble it is surely hardware related. but then it should not pass memtest...
[21:34] <Benkinooby> agrester: did the other RAM sticks fail too?
[21:35] <agrester> Fudus: it failed once but then it continued to pass when tested again, the problem is that is memtest86+ just wasn't really seeing anything
[21:35] <walterwoj> Does anyone here use afraid.org for  dynamic DNS?
[21:35] <Benkinooby> walterwoj: me
[21:35] <walterwoj> Benkinooby: how you you keep your IP updated?
[21:36] <Benkinooby> walterwoj: run the program called inadyn
[21:36] <Benkinooby> walterwoj: it is in the repositories
[21:36] <agrester> Benkinooby: Testing MPRIME I only tested the 1GB sticks so far, and it seems one of them didn't even proceed with the test so I'll check that one again
[21:37] <walterwoj> thans
[21:37] <Alcasrx> hi guys
[21:38] <Alcasrx> how are you
[21:38] <Benkinooby> walterwoj: if you installed it all you need to do is to edit /etc/inadyn.conf - straight forward
[21:38] <multi_io> I've added a ppa (ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa), run apt-get update, but it seems apt doesn't see any of the packages from that ppa. How can I check that?
[21:38] <multi_io> how do I see all packages apt knows from that ppa?
[21:38] <agrester> Benkinooby: this 1GB stick seems okay, it's proceeding with the blend test
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> multi_io, what release you running?
[21:39] <multi_io> wilee-nilee: 12.04
[21:39] <agrester> Benkinooby, Fudu: I'll test this stick in memtest86+ afterwards again
[21:39] <Benkinooby> agrester: ok
[21:41] <Apachez> is microsoft attempting to break some sort of a record now? :P   https://isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/Microsoft+September+2013+Black+Tuesday+Overview/16538
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> multi_io, generally ppa's are not supported here, have you run sud apt-get dist-upgrade besides the update?
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> sudo*
[21:42] <multi_io> wilee-nilee: no, but that really shouldn't be necessary. My question is about apt really, not about that ppa.
[21:43] <rostam> Hi in what time frame 12.04 LTS updates are released? currently we are at update 3, when would update 4 will be released?  I am asking this because I need kernel version 3.9 which supports Intel Haswell chipset. Thx
[21:43] <Carlos_Saftey> what's a good partition size to install ubuntu on for JUST coding and programs like wine and terminator eclipse and such?  like 40 GB?  how much does ubuntu on its' own take up and how much does it need to "function well"?
[21:43] <Carlos_Saftey> I store all my videos and music on an external
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> multi_io, look at the ppa and the name of the package.
[21:45] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: hm, i'd say core system something from 10-15 GB - lemme check what i have
[21:46] <Carlos_Saftey> Benkinooby: yeah  like i only use ubuntu for daily computing, browsing, emails, vim and coding nothing large...
[21:47] <worrow> do you know when rhythmbox will add support for ipod touch 5th gen?
[21:47] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: well, my whole system uses 21 GB and my home directory is 13 GB
[21:47] <daftykins> Carlos_Saftey: a clean install would only be say <4GB so i think for your use, assuming there'd be a separate /home for data, a 15GB / would be plenty
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> ;) just my wallpaper directory is 8gb here. ;P
[21:48] <Benkinooby> Dr_Willis: oh, "wallpapers" you call it ;)
[21:48] <Carlos_Saftey> lol cool, so i think i'll do 25GB to be safe, then.  so ubuntu needs 4GB to install and probably some buffer for swap, like i'm wondering
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> Benkinooby:  'That'  directory.. is on another encrypted hd..
[21:48] <Carlos_Saftey> what the performance threshhold is
[21:48] <Benkinooby> Dr_Willis: my wallpaper folder is the one that came by default in /usr/share/backgrounds :S
[21:49] <Nothing_Much> Anybody know what happened to libpng15?
[21:49] <Carlos_Saftey> is there a certain diskspace low enough that'll affect ubuntu's performance?
[21:49] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: well, the main problem will be the filesystem
[21:49] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: go with 10 GB and you're good
[21:49] <phantomcircuit> sadly setting acpi_osi=Linux
[21:49] <phantomcircuit> did not work
[21:50] <Carlos_Saftey> Benkinooby:  alright i think i will
[21:50] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: on my computer i have a minimal setup though
[21:50] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: also mainliny conding
[21:50] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: i use fluxbox, so i don't have "big" stuff liek KDE or so
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  when it gets 100% full - things tend to break. ;)
[21:51] <Carlos_Saftey> 2nd question. so i'm looking  at gPArted and i'm dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu.  the windows 7 is  ~300GB and the ubuntu ~200GB...
[21:51] <Nothing_Much> Anybody know what happened to libpng15?
[21:51] <Carlos_Saftey> how do i ...  hmm...   the end result i want is to have ubuntu 12.04 running on a 40GB partition per Dr_Willis's last remark
[21:51] <agrester> Benkinooby: I have a theory as to why this is happening, there's a strange TV-tuner card in the computer that I don't use and Ubuntu never uses, perhaps the Power Supply was overwhelmed and there were voltage issues to the RAM chips under stress
[21:52] <Ari-Yang> hmmm... if I install mesa from git here http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/ I don't have to uninstall ubuntu's current mesa, right?
[21:52] <Benkinooby> agrester: interesting point! remove the cards?
[21:52] <Benkinooby> *card
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  so yoyu want to resize the ubuntu partion down to 40gb?
[21:52] <Carlos_Saftey> right now it's ubuntu 13.04 on the 200GB....   so how do i...   do i format the
[21:52] <agrester> Benkinooby: just did, that card was hot so it was drawing power and doing nothing
[21:52] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis:   right exactly... so resize it...  to 40 then format it to install 12.04 because 13.04 was a mistake for  a newb like me..
[21:52] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: you can resizie, without formating, if you want to keep the 13.04 ubuntu
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  you are doing 2 differnt ubuntu installs on that box? shrink one partion down. make a new ext4 of the size you want. start the installer and tell it to put / on that 40
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  oh? ive had no issues with 13.04 or 13.10 for that matter.
[21:54] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis:  no i only need one ubuntu install.  just 12.04 partitioned to 40Gb on my 500GB drive.
[21:54] <Benkinooby> agrester: hm, what slot was the tv card on? pci?
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  the installer can delete/repartion as you want.  and remove the old install
[21:54] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis: eh it's hard to explain, idk what i'm doing and i;ve heard dells are buggy,
[21:54] <agrester> Benkinooby: yes it was
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  or you do it beforhand. if you want to delete the esisting install. use gparted.
[21:55] <Benkinooby> Dr_Willis: is gparted the thing behind the installer partition-magic?
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  its a seperate program you can install from the liv e cd to use.
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  or you can do it from within the instgaller.
[21:55] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis:  ok so from the bootable usb i make for 12.04 be able to totally format my current 13.04 and give me true 12.04 via formatting?
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  of course. ;)
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> it might even ask to replace it.
[21:56] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis: eeeeexxxxcellent.  *tents fingers*
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> but really i have to wonder what issues you had with 13.04   , 13.10 is due out next month also. ;)
[21:57] <hplc> having trouble with a compile, "configure: error: OpenSSL support explicitly requested but OpenSSL could not be found"       but openssl is installed, whats wrong?
[21:57] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis:  i think i'll just wait for the next LTS, lot of issues with certain libs and programs...  it comes down to 12.04 being more idiot proof
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> hplc:  you did install the openssl dev packages?
[21:57] <tekk> is it possible to VNC to a live ubuntu whilst its installing?
[21:57] <hplc> gonna check again
[21:57] <lonewulf85> Hello quick question slightly off topic, Is there an easyphp for Ubuntu
[21:57] <tekk> i'm away from home now
[21:57] <Ari-Yang> hmmm... if I install mesa from git here http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/ I don't have to uninstall ubuntu's current mesa, is that correct? I'm attempting to follow these instructions for UVD http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jUPNWzK9
[21:57] <tekk> have ssh access but nothing else
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> tekk:  unity/gnome has that remotedesktop feature. but it is not for use over the internet i belive.
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> tekk:  teamviewer perhaps. but  that would take work done beforhand ;)
[21:58] <tekk> i can ssh forward from another machine on that lan
[21:59] <tekk> the installer was hanging (for the 3rd time) on "Fetching 26/26 Packages..."
[21:59] <tekk> so i just left it
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> tekk:  of course you need to enable the remote desktop on the pc. befor you do any of this.
[21:59] <daftykins> tekk: heh the install will finish before you get it working surely ;)
[21:59] <Benkinooby> tekk: are you using the "normal" install - try the alternate install CD
[21:59] <tekk> yes i am
[21:59] <tekk> good idea
[22:00] <Benkinooby> tekk: from my experience it is more "robust" - the normal install hung up on me somethimes too - alternate always solved that
[22:00] <cartusia> whats the command in the terminal to open the ubuntu software center
[22:00] <Benkinooby> tekk: or, last resort, minimal install
[22:00] <tekk> thanks, gonna try it.. unfortunately i won't be home for another week now... d'oh
[22:01] <cartusia> I am trying to open it with sudo since with the GUI it wotn do it
[22:01] <cartusia> that is why I am asking
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> cartusia:  'software-center' or 'software-center-gtk3' perhaps
[22:01] <Carlos_Saftey> cinnamon works with 12.04 right?!
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> and use gksudo , not sudo   for gui apps
[22:02] <tekk> minimal might be nice actually
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  you are worried about things breaking and being idiot proof.. and you want to mess with cinimon? :)
[22:02] <Benkinooby> tekk: yes, but you need a bit of a clue, otherwise you will start to load stuff on it to get things working
[22:02] <tekk> thats fine
[22:02] <tekk> i'm usually quite confident =)
[22:02]  * tekk old timer
[22:02] <eden_> e
[22:03] <tekk> i think the lack of control is why i'm stuck :D
[22:03] <Benkinooby> tekk: i got tired of always "stripping down" my ubuntu, so i go with minimal installs and "build up" - but i had some "AHA!" times :P
[22:03] <cartusia> Dr_Willis, is there any reason for gk ?
[22:03] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis:  well, i liked it so much i actually was able to get it working perfectly. for me lol
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> cartusia:  no idea if the 2 differ. i just noticed both on my system
[22:03] <cartusia> let me read the man page for that actually :)
[22:03] <hplc> Dr_Willis, no, dev aint installed, not in repo and cant find it on sourceforge
[22:03] <lonewulf85> Please anyone I need an ubuntu equivalent to easyphp
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  id suggest trying xubuntu, or lubuntu if you want a more old skool type desktop
[22:03] <cartusia> how is it that I can be able to figure out what is the command to type so in the future I can be able to figure out that for myself
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> cartusia:  i just typed in 'soft<tab>' and saw the names. ;)
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> cartusia:  you can look at the launcher's .desktop files to see exactly what the icons run also.
[22:04] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis: lubuntu supposedly works the fastest right? super minimal?  how big is it on HDD?
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> but i just guessed
[22:04] <eden_> What determines the responsiveness of moving-opening-closing windows?
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  no idea exactly. ive ran it from 8gb usb flash drives
[22:05] <Benkinooby> tekk: well, age isn't a warrant for knowledge/wisdom - i wish it was so ;)
[22:05] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis: haha nice, googling it
[22:05] <Benkinooby> tekk: no offense though :)
[22:05] <tekk> i'm not old
[22:05] <Benkinooby> old timer
[22:05] <tekk> but i've lived in Linux since i was about 11 years old :)
[22:05] <tekk> which makes me an old timer ;)
[22:05] <benjudah> can anyone tell me whare I can get a source tree package that commpiles on ubuntu 10.10 mavric
[22:05] <tekk> as i'm 25 now
[22:05] <tekk> hah
[22:06] <Benkinooby> Oo - since 11?
[22:06] <bprompt> cartusia:    difference for some commands run from the terminal, is that they maintain a link to the session as the parent process, so if you close the terminal it may take the GUI app started there with it, sometimes IIRC even if you run the app in the background, using "gksudo" leaves no dependency on the terminal as the parent process
[22:06] <Benkinooby> i was happy when i got my games started on the compter at that age XD
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> benjudah:  once the release goes EOL, the servers get moved to some archive/legacy servers.  you can change the sources.list to point to that server and use apt to get source and so forth as you normally would.
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> !eol | benjudah
[22:06] <Benkinooby> tekk: anyway, hope the alternate or minimal install will do the trick
[22:07] <tekk> cheers
[22:07] <hplc> oh....its libssl-dev :S
[22:07] <hplc> nvm
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> benjudah, any valid reason you are running a end of life?
[22:08] <benjudah> it work on the computer that I have now
[22:08] <cartusia> bprompt, ohh wow nice
[22:08] <cartusia> :)
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> hplc:  the apt-get build-deps  packagename     command is handy for pulling in needed deps. If whatever you are compiling is  in the repos. ;)
[22:08] <benjudah> I have limmited dis space 40 gigs
[22:09] <cartusia> Dr_Willis, ohh nice it does work, thanks a lot.
[22:09] <hplc> Dr_Willis, thanks :)
[22:11] <neopsyche> hi all.
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> benjudah, I would not expect much help from the channel is all.
[22:11] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: i had a better experience with ubuntu and installing lxde on it than using the pre-done lubunut - your experience may vary
[22:12] <neopsyche> I have a bit of a conundrum for all of you.. networking challenge.. want to connect Ubuntu machine .. through netgear router.. with internet shared to netgear.. and in turn to ubuntu machine (which has no wireless card only lan)
[22:12] <Carlos_Saftey> yeah i've actually tried that too, but didnt like it it wasnt very customizeable
[22:12] <neopsyche> But.. netgear needs to get internet from windows machine.. which is wirelessly connected to another AP which has the ADSL connection
[22:13] <Carlos_Saftey> or is every distro/flavour 100% customizeable and i just dont know?    is this statement true?
[22:13] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: hm, lubuntu won't be much more customizeable
[22:13] <gordonjcp> neopsyche: you need to sort out your weirdass networking
[22:13] <Carlos_Saftey> like down to the pixel
[22:13] <gordonjcp> Carlos_Saftey: everything is 100% customisable
[22:13] <neopsyche> good observation gordonjcp
[22:13] <bprompt> benjudah:    how about getting puppy linux?   you can still find ubuntun 10.10 iso btw
[22:13] <gordonjcp> Carlos_Saftey: everything you ever encounter, not just Linux distros
[22:13] <gordonjcp> Carlos_Saftey: it depends how much effort you want to put in
[22:13] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: you can trun ubuntu to lubuntu to kubuntu and what to - without reinstalling
[22:14] <gordonjcp> lubuntu is horrible
[22:14] <gordonjcp> LXDE is buggy as all hell
[22:14] <Benkinooby> gordonjcp: i agree lubunut is bad - but lxde is ok
[22:14] <Carlos_Saftey> gordonjcp: right right like i edited the opacity of the alt tab switcher and icon size in cinnamon via the share/ui/ .js files
[22:14] <gordonjcp> Benkinooby: it's fine if you've got a lot of RAM, but I wouldn't use it on less than 4GB
[22:14] <gordonjcp> Benkinooby: and ideally 8GB
[22:15] <Benkinooby> gordonjcp: i run lxde on 1 GB ram
[22:15] <gordonjcp> Benkinooby: doesn't it crash all the time?
[22:15] <Benkinooby> if i don't use fluxbox
[22:15] <Benkinooby> nope
[22:15] <Carlos_Saftey> yeah isnt it supposed to be minimal?
[22:15] <gordonjcp> Benkinooby: it runs out of memory and crashes all the time on 2GB here
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive really noticed any issues with lubuntu on my 1gb ram netbook.
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> cant recall ever seeing it crash
[22:15] <Carlos_Saftey> arrrgh  now im confused
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  try it out and see if you like it.
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> Carlos_Saftey, don't believe opinions
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu is about as low end/minimal as it gets.
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: perhaps it's something else, that's triggering the OOM killer
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu is a step or 2 above. and is very well done.
[22:16] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: well, waht wilee-nilee said... is jsut an opinion too ;)
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: possibly some weird bug in LXDE
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> or roll your own. ;)
[22:16] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis:   so lubuntu is the pre packaged cereal linux? aand lxde is the DE?
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> users here should know better than to spread fud opinions anyway
[22:17] <benjudah> then what really nee is a dvd source tree for my commputer tha I can used to commpile the os I dont allwas have access to the internet for setup AND i CAN NOT UNDERSTEND WHAY THERE IS THIS ASSUMPION THAT THE INTERNET IS ALLWAYS AVAILABLE IT IS VERY ASNOYING
[22:17] <gordonjcp> neopsyche: so yeah, why such a crazy netowrk setup?
[22:17] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: in the end, ubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, fluxbunt - they all share the same system under the hood. then onyl difference is the GUI they present you. and that GUI is 100% interchangeable
[22:17] <Carlos_Saftey> i've heard KDE is 100% customisable.  I only tweak a few things.  mostly app switcher and icon sizes nothing fancy
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey: ubuntu+lxde = Lubuntu
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  ubuntu wuth the lxde desktop.
[22:18] <gordonjcp> Carlos_Saftey: I can't be bothered with KDE
[22:18] <Carlos_Saftey> anyone here ever use Arch linux?
[22:18] <gordonjcp> Carlos_Saftey: yes
[22:18] <gordonjcp> I gave up on it, and switched to Ubuntu
[22:18] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: KDE is a big user interface - its not minimal
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey: best thing about arch linux - is its wiki pages. ;)
[22:18] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: yes.
[22:18] <Carlos_Saftey> how's that? lol
[22:18] <Carlos_Saftey> ah i see
[22:19] <Benkinooby> arch indeed has awesome wiki
[22:19] <Carlos_Saftey> hmmm i may just 50GB partition for Arch...
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  its trivial to have lubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu, gnome-shell and kde all installed on the same pc and you just switch desktops at the login screen.
[22:19] <gordonjcp> Carlos_Saftey: arch is *great* if you like trying to figure out why other people's packages don't work properly, and if you love pretending that watching compiler output scroll past means you're "learning about Linux"
[22:19] <Carlos_Saftey> i am afraid ...
[22:19] <gordonjcp> Carlos_Saftey: I wouldn't recommend it for beginners, and I wouldn't recommend it for experienced users
[22:19] <gordonjcp> Carlos_Saftey: it's good fun though
[22:19] <agrester> Benkinooby: last thing I'm doing, considering I'm receiving 4GB tomorrow is to run the 2 x 1 GB sticks overnight using memtest86+ and see if I can use them, I didn't see any errors in the mprime tests anymore
[22:20] <Benkinooby> agrester: maybe it is realted to the tv card? run the test - it won't hurt either way
[22:20] <Benkinooby> *related
[22:20] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: we all are... :D
[22:21] <bprompt> benjudah:    well, you're online right now :), downloading the .iso for 10.10  which is 700mbs maybe depending on your connection a matter or minutes or a couple of hours
[22:21] <agrester> Benkinooby: I'm starting to think it is because I recall switching out a lower-powered card for a more powerful one that was in another machine and perhaps this caused low voltage and it was mucking up the RAM for some reason, because I put it through it's paces
[22:22] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: the important thing you have to know is that the GUI (grapical user interface) is just an other programm running on your computer. you can install it use it and remove it, as you like. it is not an essential part of the operating system
[22:22] <bprompt> benjudah:    you only have to dl it once you know, you may also have an option for snail-mail delivery, I know some sites used to provide that too
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> benjudah:  why ecactly do you need 10.10 ?
[22:22] <Carlos_Saftey> thanks for all the input guys, probably just gonna install 12.04 and use cinnamon an lxde.    i see Benkinooby .. thanks
[22:22] <Benkinooby> agrester: well, if the TV card is the culprit you saved yourself some RAM ;)
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  i honestly suggest dumping cinnamon and sticking to one of the other desktops
[22:23] <Benkinooby> !cinnamon
[22:23] <benjudah> IHAVE TRIED OTHER  OS AND NONE DO AWAYS WORK COMPLETELY
[22:24] <gordonjcp> Carlos_Saftey: oh yeah, don't use Cinnamon, it's crap
[22:24] <gordonjcp> !caps | benjudah
[22:24] <bprompt> heheh, tap on the caps-lock key :P
[22:24] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis: o.o   oh?  i just  hate hate hate unity is all...  i have a 4GB ram dell inspiron laptop and i commute to college.  i'm  a CS major and am learning C, what would you reccomend?
[22:24] <benjudah> soory
[22:25] <bprompt> benjudah:     tried other os'es, like ?   and they didn't work? how old is your hardware?
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  a CS major should be able to use any desktop or none at all.
[22:25] <benjudah> 2004
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  in the end  the desktpop really dosent matter a lot.
[22:25] <Benkinooby> true
[22:25] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis:  i just caan't have unity's fatass launcher in my window all the time lol
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> learning C - then use JWM and play with its code. ;) them move up
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  the left side panel can auto hide.
[22:26] <benjudah> amd64 commpaq
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> Carlos_Saftey:  and you can shrink its sizes down.
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> or roll your own desktop you are a 'cs' major. :)
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> start with jwm and rox-filer and start building up ;)
[22:27] <bprompt> benjudah:     ... 2004, so is a single-core likely around 1.3ghz cpu I gather and .... 1gb ddr2 ram, well, I have run 11.04 on that, and surely could have run 12.04 on that too
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> bbl - work time for me
[22:27] <gordonjcp> bprompt: 12.04 will run just fine on that
[22:27] <Carlos_Saftey> Dr_Willis:  ehh, only to like 24ish or something..      and argh sounds intimidating, maybe this summer,   how?
[22:27] <AcidRain2012> what type of programs do we have in linux to create flash applications?
[22:27] <benjudah> I tried 12 and it did not connect to the internet
[22:28] <home> hi. everytime i boot my computer i get a notice saying "low disk space on boot" how would i fix this?
[22:28] <AcidRain2012> home, find out what is using all of your disk space ;p
[22:28] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: what is important for you on your desktop? you want it to look nce and fancy with much functions, or fast?
[22:28] <AcidRain2012> and delete it
[22:28] <bprompt> benjudah:   as far as space, 40gbs is more than plenty to run the OS, ubuntu only takes about 3.5gbs once installed
[22:28] <daftykins> home: delete older kernels you no longer use
[22:28] <AcidRain2012> home, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:28] <bprompt> gordonjcp:    yeap, it surely would
[22:28] <home> AcidRain2012, i am using 13.04
[22:29] <AcidRain2012> home, i know i had a big issue with the gnome log file being bombarded with errors. took up almost 70GiG
[22:29] <Carlos_Saftey> Benkinooby:  i like GNOME put it that way lol...  nothing flashy only functionality.
[22:29] <benjudah> yeah but I like too runn my set up from the hard drive  with other os windows and it is reall a tight tfit
[22:29] <AcidRain2012> home, but  you can create a quick one line search in terminal to list off files that are bigger than... lets say 3Gig
[22:29] <Carlos_Saftey> Benkinooby: cinnamon seemed like a good inbetween on GNOMEness and new stuff
[22:30] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: well, ther is GNOME 3. LXDE is the closest thing to gnome 2 (the "old" gnome) that you can get without mayor pain on ubunut
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> Carlos_Saftey, To minty for me. ;)
[22:30] <Carlos_Saftey> wilee-nilee: what do you use?  o.o
[22:30] <bprompt> benjudah:    windowsXP install is only about 3.5gbs including swap file or virtual memory file, windows7 install is about 10gbs with the virtual memory file
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> Carlos_Saftey, gnome shell
[22:31] <home> AcidRain2012, can i make the boot folder bigger?
[22:31] <Carlos_Saftey> wilee-nilee: like the default gnome,  ubuntu comes with?
[22:31] <AcidRain2012> im wanting to create a flash application to play music. ive looked everywhere online for some (so i didnt have to do it myself), but none are what i need (or look like what i want them to).
[22:31] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: no - gnome shell is not unity
[22:31] <gordonjcp> benjudah: can you stick more RAM in your machine?
[22:31] <AcidRain2012> home, there are ways to make the partition containing the home folder bigger.
[22:31] <gordonjcp> benjudah: 2GB would make a huge difference
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> Carlos_Saftey, no its the gnome 3 desktop, I use cairo-dock, I never access the app portion really
[22:32] <Benkinooby> Carlos_Saftey: some ideas are similar - but i'd say it's superior to unity. but that's personal tast. look youtube videos to get an impression
[22:32] <benjudah> but the boot concepts ar diff and on the ommputer I can not dual vey hhard I am nopt sure why
[22:32] <Antisober552> #ubuntu
[22:33] <benjudah> 2 giigs of ram is niot enough
[22:33] <Benkinooby> !paste
[22:33] <Antisober552> hi i want to partition my hard drive but lost my thumb drive can i do it within the os
[22:33] <AcidRain2012> 2gig of ram is more than enough to run linux ;)
[22:33] <AcidRain2012> LKDE
[22:33] <Antisober552> and allow it to partition while the pc is booting
[22:34] <OerHeks> Antisober552, no
[22:34] <Antisober552> okai
[22:34] <bprompt> benjudah:    well, on an amd64 compaq, likely a dual-core machine, it ain't the space for one that's bogging it down
[22:34] <rostam> HI when Ubuntu 13.10 will be release?
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> Antisober552, You can only partition unmounted partitions.
[22:34] <OerHeks> rostam, in month 10
[22:34] <Antisober552> okai
[22:34] <benjudah> I think it is bios matter
[22:35] <bprompt> benjudah:   40gbs is plenty, give 10gbs to linux and 20gbs or more to windows, and that'll do... 10gbs will do just fine for 12.04 or even 13, though I run 12.04
[22:35] <rostam> OerHeks, Is there a beta version I can download?
[22:35] <benjudah> then I have to figure out why it is not connecting to the net
[22:36] <OerHeks> rostam, yes, see http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ and  join #ubuntu+1 for support
[22:36] <Benkinooby> benjudah: i run on 1 GB of ram all the time
[22:37] <Benkinooby> benjudah: not connecting to the internet is not a matter of ram
[22:37] <rostam> OerHeks, thanks
[22:37] <benjudah> yewy no kidding realy
[22:38] <benjudah> I dont understand the fuss 10.1o works fine cant I just get the source tree and migrate
[22:38] <home> how do i get rid up my unused kernels?
[22:39] <home> --preferably safely and graphically (not from the command line)
[22:39] <bekks> home: uninstall them.
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> home, take a look in askubuntu for info good help there.
[22:40] <green_geeky_dude> home - install ubuntu-tweak great app that has a janitor prog that will remove all that for you
[22:40] <home> green_geeky_dude, cool thanks
[22:40] <Benkinooby> !ubuntu-tweak
[22:40] <green_geeky_dude> home - yw :)
[22:41] <AcidRain2012> i found Flex. it seems to be able to handle what i need
[22:42] <benjudah> well I think I am guessing that I will have to some how build my own sorry to hafe bothered u
[22:44] <neopsyche> ok..
[22:44] <neopsyche> First, how to get the notebook and the PC ubuntu talking to eachother?
[22:45] <sarthor> how to install ubuntuone on 13.04
[22:46] <OerHeks> sarthor, should be default installed, open dash and typ "one"
[22:48] <neopsyche> HOLY CRAP! my ubuntu notebook already see's the pc on the network!?
[22:49] <neopsyche> HOLY CRAP! my ubuntu notebook already see's the pc on the network!?
[22:50] <green_geeky_dude> ok calm down
[22:50] <gordonjcp> neopsyche: pretty good, eh
[22:51] <neopsyche> gordonjcp: no wait.. false alarm
[22:51] <neopsyche> Wierd.. on the windows machine. it shows two ethernet connections...
[22:51] <neopsyche> one 10 meg and one 100 meg
[22:51] <neopsyche> ?
[22:52] <neopsyche> in da geeeethooooo
[22:52] <CIDR> My fsck on a ext4 file system is stuck at this: clone_file_block: internal error: can't find dup_blk for 457797225  any ideas?
[22:53] <energizer4> How do I change my username on ubuntuforums
[22:54] <neopsyche> HALLELUJAH!
[22:54] <neopsyche> I got access through the lan
[22:54] <neopsyche> to the router
[22:54] <neopsyche> and the internet is running through the wireless!
[22:55] <neopsyche> confuzing as shit though
[22:56] <neopsyche> the lan1 disappeared on connections page
[22:56] <neopsyche> but now i have access to the router
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> energizer4, Ask in resolution.
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> energizer4,Tell them the one you want and accounts do not transfer in general IE posts..etc
[22:58] <energizer4> wilee-nilee: thanks
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[23:06] <agrester> Seems the MPRIME test went well, and proceeding as usual, interesting, it was a voltage issue then...
[23:07] <agrester> Thanks for the help, have a good week...
[23:07] <neopsyche> guys.. if i am connection through router netgear from pc.. then will default gateway from ubuntu box be the one its connected to .. or the other router ADSL?
[23:08] <bekks> neopsyche: Depends on your setup.
[23:10] <neopsyche> ok
[23:11] <neopsyche> on Local area connection i have an option to BRIDGE CONNECTIONS>..
[23:11] <neopsyche> bekks see above
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[23:11] <neopsyche> should I bridge?
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[23:11] <neopsyche> oh .. no that wont make nay difference
[23:11] <tgm4883> !mods
[23:11] <neopsyche> thats for speed
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[23:11] <Plasmastar> !ops Spam
[23:12] <bekks> neopsyche: Still depends on your setup.
[23:12] <tgm4883> neopsyche, generally, you don't want to bridge, but I'm not sure what you are trying to do
[23:13] <neopsyche> bekks: im trying to ghetto my wireless from Windows pc, then lan cable to router.. to old linux box which does not have wireless.
[23:14] <neopsyche> bekks: ie.. two lan cables, an old adsl router and a prayer.. and wifi from neighbor lol ;-)
[23:14] <dr_willis> pc to pc via  cat 5 - may require a crossocver cable
[23:15] <dr_willis> unless one of the network cards is a gigabit
[23:15] <bekks> I am out - too much of an unclear setup.
[23:16] <tgm4883> neopsyche, you are in the wrong channel
[23:16] <tgm4883> This isn't windows support
[23:16] <neopsyche> tgm... network issue ;-)
[23:17] <neopsyche> tgm.. involving two linux machines too ;-)
[23:17] <neopsyche> tgm.. and two routers ;-)
[23:17] <neopsyche> so, statistically.. not a windows issue
[23:17] <tgm4883> neopsyche, yea, but your issue sounds like your router doesn't have internet, which you are trying to share from your windows machine
[23:17] <bekks> neopsyche: And involving a setup for bridging on windows. Windows issue.
[23:17] <gordonjcp> neopsyche: why is your network layout so ass-backwards anyway?
[23:18] <tgm4883> neopsyche, and since you don't know how to set this up, please don't try to tell me that "statistically" this is a linux issue
[23:18] <tgm4883> !tab | neopsyche
[23:18] <tgm4883> gordonjcp, he's trying to steal wifi from his neighbor
[23:18] <DrahKeN_> window close 3
[23:18] <dr_willis> isent there some tool that you can use to draw up the network layout? ;)   i seem to recall seeing one that could even scan the network and draw it out for you
[23:18] <bekks> Ah, wifi stealer. No support.
[23:19] <bekks> dr_willis: zenmap
[23:19] <dr_willis> unless the neighbor said it was ok ;)
[23:19] <dr_willis> !info zenmap
[23:19] <dr_willis> I get so many devices on my network these days - i dont know whats the roku, or the grandkids tablet.
[23:20] <tgm4883> nice, i'll have to test that out
[23:20] <bekks> tgm4883: working pretty well, when having full access to the network.
[23:21] <alessandrosal> !list
[23:21] <tgm4883> bekks, I'll test it at home, but I'd like to use that at work if I can
[23:21] <neopsyche> tgm.. you are king of douche. :-) Congratulations.
[23:22] <tgm4883> bekks, does that give a graphical layout? something I might be able to print
[23:22] <tgm4883> neopsyche, thanks, I try ;)
[23:22] <bekks> neopsyche: You are out of support now. Gratz, bro
[23:22] <bekks> tgm4883: It does.
[23:22] <neopsyche> kicks tgm in the nintendo punch out catridge.
[23:22]  * tgm4883 rolls eyes
[23:22] <dr_willis> dosent it make a 'dia' compatiable diagram? vector image file?
[23:22] <bekks> neopsyche: did you ever speak to my kick file bot? Now you do.
[23:23] <neopsyche> lol i spelled it wrong.
[23:23] <tgm4883> neopsyche, ah, I just thought you were from boston
[23:24] <neopsyche> im from africa. help me im an african with a crap network
[23:24] <neopsyche> lol
[23:24] <tgm4883> neopsyche, i'm from the USA, we only "help" people from the middle east
[23:25] <meh_> Hello fine people. I downloaded a program that was designed to run in java. I forget it's exact name. The problem is that I do not have java, and extracted all the files to the desktop. Which filled it up. so I deleted all those files, and erased them from the recycle bin. Each time I log in or restart more of these files keep appearing. What do I need to get rid of
[23:26] <neopsyche> nice. jew baby killer jew
[23:27] <neopsyche> tgm: *you baby killer you
[23:27] <dr_willis> meh_:  filled up the desktop? how big is your hard drive?
[23:27] <dr_willis> meh_:  use the command like.. see whats in your ~/Desktop directory
[23:27] <dr_willis> command line.
[23:28] <meh_> dr_willis okay
[23:28] <dr_willis> and as for java...
[23:28] <dr_willis> !java
[23:28] <dr_willis> bbl
[23:29] <cockatiel> hello everyone
[23:33] <meh_> dr_willis : it worked. I could delete them from there. Thank you.
[23:36] <Brispere> hello
[23:44] <Brispere> could someone help me with an efi path error?
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> Brispere, describe for help to the channel.
[23:48] <Brispere> I finally got grub to launch in UEFI, but the windows 7 option will return an error stating windows has an invalid efi path when I attempt to boot into windows
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> Brispere, Probably worth looking at, this mod is a great help and will stop by any uefi threads posted. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:56] <darkangel> Hey just woundering i found ALL the Generics (Kernals) from the Past since 3.2.0 kernel would it be bad to Install them all?
[23:56] <darkangel> on Ubuntu 12.04.3