[00:18] ochosi, re the logout time - 12 seconds here, on a pretty fast machine :( [00:19] jjfrv8: ok, thanks for the confirmation [00:19] now we have to debug it somehow [00:19] (find pointers in the logs) [00:19] but i really assume it's a logind related issue === lool- is now known as lool [09:59] ochosi, Unit193: cc always has by (attribution) [13:47] knome: there was an old generic cc-sa, but it's retired now (googled it) [14:06] ochosi, yeah sure, but it would've been kind of stupid to have sa without by (that's why cc dropped it) [14:09] yup, basically what i said yesterday [17:28] ochosi: "Windows Network" in thunar has no icon - bug? [17:29] ali1234: screenshot? [17:29] was there some obvious reason why some thunar custom actions do not work? [17:29] the script i'm trying to run doesn't even launch [17:29] ali1234: ah i see [17:30] knome: you have to use absolute paths i think for executing the script if it's e.g. in your ~/.bin [17:30] i am, no luck [17:33] uff [17:33] ok, fixed [17:33] ali1234: ok, will see whether i can fix that, thanks for the hint [17:40] ali1234: can't seem to find an icon-theme where that gets a real icon (that's with gnome: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-09102013-073954pm.php ) [17:40] yeah, same [17:40] so as long as we don't find a theme that works, fixing is hard [17:40] unless you wanna read the GIO/GVFS source code [17:41] it gets an icon in nautilus... [17:41] well, it did in raring anyway [17:41] btw do i need to register to use zimagez? [17:42] also i tracked down the gedit icon bug... it's because it used to use smclient to read the icon from the .desktop file, but smclient was removed. i sent it to gnome bugzilla [17:42] i think you might have to [17:43] i think gedit would simply have to use the gtk function to set the window-icon [17:43] yes, basically that call got deleted when smclient was removed [17:43] :/ [17:43] well they don't need it anymore in gnome-shell, but it blows for all other DEs [17:44] yeah. ironically, windows and mac still gets the icon, because they never used smclient [17:45] well it's a one-liner [19:16] Just an extra bit of info on the long logout/shutdown time bug. It is not only xfce, kde (kubuntu) is the same. It is definitely longer than raring. I have been thinking it was broken and doing an sudo reboot... impatience on my part... and always having a terminal sitting open too. [19:45] OvenWerks: very weird [19:55] ochosi: It seems to me the big change has has been the change to upstart for starting sessions. [21:18] OvenWerks: well that sounds annoying, i thought it was "only" the switch to logind? [21:42] knome, I'm back [21:43] ali1234: can you show me a screenshot of what icon nautilus uses for browse windows network? [21:44] ochosi: sure, i'll have to boot up another machine though [21:44] ok, that would be helpful [21:44] then at least i can narrow down the options [21:45] checking the gvfs source didn't shed too much light... [21:58] ochosi: http://imagebin.org/270509 [21:59] ali1234: any chance you can try to use elementary-xfce there? [22:01] the machine freezes when i try to open the dash, and there's no other way to open a terminal [22:01] it might unfreeze in a minute or two [22:01] :/ [22:01] ok [22:01] on the first look i can't see any icons that look like that in Humanity that could be used [22:02] so it might be a bug in thunar [22:02] not sure [22:02] well i'm using ubuntu-mono-light and thunar still shows no icon [22:02] ok, that at least points into a direction (where it's not my fault anymore) [22:03] what's the xfce-elementary icon package called? [22:04] xubuntu-icon-theme [22:04] but you can also use the daily of it [22:04] makes more sense [22:04] https://code.launchpad.net/~landronimirc/+archive/elementary-xfce [22:05] i can't install it on a livecd [22:05] ah [22:05] hm :/ [22:05] well those symlinks shouldn't be missing either way [22:06] adding the ppa [22:07] er... how do i change the icon theme in unity? [22:10] ali1234: ask me something i know... :) [22:13] ok it's a folder with a wifi icon on it [22:16] gtk-network.png, but there are several that look like that [22:17] also it's the same icon thunar uses on the places bar at the side for "browse network" and network shortcuts and also it is correctly displayed when you go into a computer and see the shares - each one has this icon [22:21] ali1234: yeah, i know it's that icon (or it should be), so it's working with nautilus? [22:22] if yes i'd presume it's thunar's fault [22:28] jjfrv8, if you're interested in a bit different docs stuff, parole could do with documentation upstream; ochosi and bluesabre have been working on it lately, and they will soon need interested people to build up the parole docs from scratch :) [22:33] ochosi: yes, it works in nautilus [22:33] with xfce-elementary [22:35] ali1234: ok, i guess reporting a bug against thunar would be good [22:35] (on bugs.xfce.org) [22:43] bbl, nighty -> [22:45] ochosi, bluesabre, if you want to fill me in on the parole documentation thing knome mentioned, I'd be glad to look into it.